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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up, everybody. It's your boys, it's Dale's, it's Maddie,
it's Flyers Talk a two D. They always, they always,
they always seem to to get your get you going here,
Flyers Penguins. Flyers win in a shootout by a final
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score of three to two. We're here to give you
post game. We're gonna talk all about the game. We're
gonna discuss the flyworks after the game, what happened there,
what's gonna come from this? Going forward to game two
in the season series between these two teams. We're also
gonna talk about jet Lachenko getting sent down to the Ohl.
Lots of talk about let's get at it. Time to
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talks and puck. Let's get the conversation going.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to a brand new edition of
Flyers Talk a two D right here on a two
D radio a dot com. I am Madison City along
with the Dark Wing Brian Daily. What a game, You're
not kidding? A wild first game, the first shots in
the Battle of Pennsylvania here tonight and the Flyers take
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the win in the first of I believe it'll be
four games that they'll be playing against each other this year,
So it's gonna be interesting when when Game two of
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for that. The poll question for today sending jet Luchenko
back to the OHL is the best for his development?
Agree or disagree? Obviously, there's been some disappointments with the
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fact that jet Luchenko will not be staying in a
Flyers Jersey for the duration of this season, that he
will be heading back down to the OAHL instead, and well, honestly,
when it comes down to it, it's it's always a
difficult decision when you know you have young talents. But
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Danny has a great quote that he, you know, put
out there earlier. Today, he's willing to take the criticism now.
And you know, he's willing to take the criticism now
and he'll benefit from it later. And he's and Luchenko will.
I think he will, And he said it the best way.
He doesn't want to stunt his development and his growth,
and he feels like it he forced him into the NHL.
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It's exactly what would happen. So I agree with the move.
I agree with it. Honestly. It's like, listen, if he's
not ready. He's not ready. It's not that he doesn't
have the talent he does, it's just that he's The
NHL is a different beast when all you've done is
playing junior hockey. It's different.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I agree. I agree with you, Maddie. I mean, I
agree with the pole too. I think it's the best
move in the nine eight or nine games that he's
played at the NHL level. I mean last year, I
thought he had a better stint to begin the season
this year, kind of sort of battling an injury. Jesus
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never really got to be hundred, and to me, I
thought he was barely noticeable out there. I know he
wasn't playing a ton of minutes, but when he was
out on the ice, I didn't hear his name, So
to me, that tells me that he just needs a
little bit more seasoning. The thing to remember with jet
Lechenko is he's nineteen years old. He's got a lot
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of time to go. You know, he's probably not gonna
hit his prime for another three or four years. So
I personally I would rather have rather him gone to
the AHL. But since they haven't changed rule officially yet
for the AHL age change, which is going to turn
the nineteen next season, yeah, he had nowhere else to go.
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And from what I understand, I heard a rumor that,
you know, the Flyers are going to be talking to
the Gulf Storm about trading him to a better organization
than where he can kind of take that next step.
I feel like he's kind of hit his peak there
and he can't really grow so much. So if they
can wind up what's up down down, if you can
wind up making a trade happen, I think that could
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be a better situation for Jella Jenko to kind of
take that next step in his development is to get
out of the Gulf Storm.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, and I think that if you know, if that
organization over there in the OHL is not helping his
development or his growth, then yeah, you have to as
that is your player, your prospect that you drafted. You know,
the Flyers want to take the steps necessary to make
sure that he's in the best position to grow and
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succeed as he continues his junior hockey career before eventually
coming up to the big organization and being able to stay.
And if that means facilitating a trade, so be it.
You know, go to the organization that's going to help
you grow with your talent. So I'm totally fine with
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them trying to push a trade through with the Gulf Storm.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah. You know, Danny's done a lot of good as
far as creating good rapport with guys throughout different leagues
and even throughout you know, the other gms in the
in the NHL. So I could see something happening, but
I mean how soon it's gonna happen, obviously nobody knows.
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But you know, Danny's done a really good job at
creating good rapports with with other leagues and other got
other front office guys, so I can see it happening.
I mean, Danny, Danny's a smart dude, He's he's he
knows what to say, knows how to say it, And
I honestly don't think that this is something that's going
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to be out of the rum of possibilities to kind
of get Jet in a better situation.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Right, Joe's saying, we dominated that game and had to
win three different times because of the refs.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And yeah, that they were all legit.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So with that being said, that's a good transition over
to the Flyers and the Penguins. What a game this
was starting off in the first period, feeling out process.
I feel like because of the Penguins are not the
same Penguins as they were several years ago. They've actually
been they've missed the playoffs the last three years, which
is weird to say that out loud. And then for
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the Flyers, obviously this is not the same team that
was here, you know, last year, in terms of attitude
and in terms of where they where their heads are at.
They're in a different place now than they were last year.
Last year, it was a bit of a struggle this year,
Like you had said a few weeks ago, Brian, it
looks like they're having fun playing again. So they're not
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the same kind of teams facing each other this go around,
and so naturally the feel out begins. Ersen kind of
gave up a softy in the first period, a bit
of a bad goal to give up in the first
to Rislow. Wound up just not hugging the post properly
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and it just winds up going right underneath his arm.
It's like, uh, not a good one for Erson on
that one. He got beat twice there on that one.
The other one kind of just a freak knuckle puck
going right into the net where Crosby just happened to
try to chip the puck into the slot, bounces off
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of I believe it with Sandheim stick winds.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Up flying off at body.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Off a Steeler's body, actually off of his body, flies
up into the air, and of course it goes right
over Urson's shoulder, who does not see it. He has
no idea where the puck is and it goes right
over him and into the back of the net. It's like,
of course, of course that had to be the one
to tie it up. But luckily though he redeemed himself
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in big ways. He made several key saves he made
he almost Crosby did try to catch him on a sneak.
He tried to sneak it on that same spot where
he gave up the softy earlier, and no that time
Ersen caught him. But shootout though crushed it, absolutely crushed
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it in the shootout. And then for the Flyers, you know,
give credit where credit is due, man. They even though
the Penguins scored first, they didn't let it get him down.
They kept at it, they kept driving and eventually they
got rewarded with a goal and they tied it up.
And then after that they went into the second period
they took the lead, and then yeah, the bad luck
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has to ensue and then of course over time and
we all know what happened there with the goal that
was disallowed. And then luckily, luckily, this new Flyers team
seems to have an idea of how shootouts work, which
is kind of novel in Flyer's history. So luckily they
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were able to survive and win in a shootout of
all things.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah, I so this game was interesting to me
and and you know I was I was able to
jump in late I wasn't able to really watch the
first half of the game. I was at work until
about seven o'clock. But first of all, let's not overshadow
of the fact that t K got his two hundredth
career goal tonight. So the tip of the cap to
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t K. Big goal on the power play to give
the Flyers a lead to one into the second period,
So typic of the cap to him. The thing that
I like about this Flyers team is is they haven't
they don't have a will to give up yet, and
hopefully they keep that that feeling down, you know, because
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this this Pittsburgh team is playing way better hockey than
everybody's expected them to play this year. I think they're
getting a good good goaltending from both Sillyav and Jari
so far this year. Obviously, there's kind of a new
new regime behind the bench, which sometimes is you know,
helps the team kind of take that that get off
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to a quick start. Crosby looks like he's you know,
playing twenty four years old again. You know, he's got
seven goals in seven games. This kid, Ben Kendall looks
like he's the real deal. You know, they just drafted
him in the first round of this this past year's draft.
He looks like he's he's a legit. I don't want
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to overshadow any of that, but I mean, the Flyers
looked really resilient tonight. They had a couple of situations
where they could have laid down and died. I think
they probably could have done that last year. I probably
would have done that last year had the you know, Penguins,
get a bounce like they did on the Crosby goal,
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probably would have laid down and died and let Pittsburgh
take that game. But the thing that I like about
this team is the resiliency. I love that this team
doesn't give up. I love the energy this team breaks.
I mean, look at Ziegers and Ziegres was getting in
everybody's face. He was barking, he was he was doing
a lot of chirping. And for him to be one
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of those guys that's doing that, I think that says
a lot about the energy of this team. And you
know that this team is gonna have each other's backs.
You know that that little brawl at the end of
what was the end of overtime, Oh yeah, if you
look at the it's not the usual suspects out there.
It was Egres Drysdale Forster. I think York was the
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fourth guy out there. Like those are guys that aren't
going to go out there and getting the scrums or
anything like that. You love to see it, you know,
it's it's reigniting this rivalry, which, if I'm gonna be
perfectly honest, I figure is back with the way that
this game was. But what's up John, what's up? PRIs,
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what's up? What's up Swoopy? What's up all you guys
in chat Bryce? But the fact they didn't give up
is great, you know, yeah, you can you can probably
say that the refs took the game away from him
a couple of different times. I mean the overtime, the
on side goal or the offside goal was offside. You
even you even saw Tyson Forsters say that might be
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coming back. So you know, it's it's okay, you know,
it is what it is. They got the win in
the end, you know, like Maddie, like you said, they
got you know, they figured out the shootouts. You finally
have some guys who have some talent who are able
to stick handled really well. And it's a big thing.
It's a big thing. What's up LJ youself, Gregy, it's
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a big thing and you love seeing it moving forward.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, And I think the thing that I think, the
thing that we could take away from this game is
is that the Flyers and you know what I loved
about what they did right there at the end of overtime,
you know, the the instigation of the issue where Wutherspoon
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decided he was just gonna give a little bump to
uh to Zieger or to forceter and Forster's just like okay,
and then he gives them a little chop on the
leg there, give them a little love tap, and then
next thing you know, we're off to the races and
everyone's getting angry at each other. It's like that is
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that you see the Flyers just then immediately pouncing, and
it's like good, they're sticking up for each other. And
they're sticking up not only for each other, they're really
not afraid to be they they're not taking shit. They're
like okay, all right, you know. And and what that
says to me is that this team does have something
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going on up here. There's some type of confidence building
in them, and that's very important. If this team is
going to continue to be successful moving forward. They have
to have confidence in themselves. I mean, in general, you
need to have confidence in life, but in hockey, you know,
as the ebb and flow the season goes, these guys
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need to not only feel like they've got this game,
they've also got to feel like, hey, I've got you.
Don't worry about it. We're going to actually kill it.
And I feel like that's what that says to me,
that this team is strong together, that they're united together,
that there isn't any divisions going on right now. They're
working together to make this actually a thing, to build
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up this culture.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
The one thing, though, I'll say is I love that
they all have each other's backs. And I love what
Ziegers did tonight. I the one thing I didn't like
that he did was take that little cheap shot at
Noah Akari while he was down and out, and he
just kind of slopped him upside the head a couple
of times, right, Like, come on, man, I'm all for
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you getting in somebody's face and chirping' don't make a
little bit move like that, Like that's that's what I'm
that's a little chicken shit stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well that I am gonna say. I think the announcer
did bring uh bring up a good point that if
if Achari remembers that, and he will remember that, every
hockey player remembers some bullshit that's done to them. Next
game that these two meet, I can almost guarantee you
something will happen with that. There will be a receipt
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it has been taken and it will be given back
at some point in time. How that's gonna happen, I
don't know, but Zigris better be prepared for when Pittsburgh
and Philly meet again because he will be the one
targeted most likely out of everybody there. I don't think
Forster is going to be the one. It's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Him, and that game will be happening December first, so
we don't have to wait long. Hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Spoopy saying Flyers have too many scene side guys playing
on same lines. They get puck on the wrong side
often or can't get a good look I mean, scoring
chances wise, that was pretty up for them on they
were on the upswing there towards the end. I mean, yeah,
I know, obviously quality over quantity, but I also feel
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like too the way that this team works. Skilled players wise,
do we have those pure goal scorers on this team.
I think we might have one or two that are
still developing right now. But when it comes to like
full on, ready to you know, just snipe it at
you know, top shelf every five seconds, you know, we
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don't have that guy immediately right now. So I think
a lot of times the way the Flyers, I guess,
the way they've been proceeding has been just try to
get that puck on net and try to get something going,
you know, at the end of the day. Seems to
be the modus operandi that they're trying. They do try
to passing plays, but I think what they're trying to
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do is they're trying to get that puck in front
more often than not to try and see if they
can bunch up in front of the net, which I get.
It makes sense if you don't have the guys who're
gonna snipe it, try to score ugly. You know, the
ugly ones count too, So I see where their philosophy
is going with that. They do try those ones on
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the rush with some players, but not all the players.
At the end of the day, sometimes they do try
to get the dirty goals, which I'm not against at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I mean, it's it's tough, Swoopy. It's you know, you're
you're in a league that's you know, you get eighteen
position players and you really only have left hander and
a right hander. You know, you're gonna you're gonna have
guys that are gonna be opposite side. So it's kind
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of tough to really match sides for everybody's position. You know,
there's gonna be guys that are gonna be, you know,
a right handed shot. They're gonna play off the right wing.
These guys at their age, they know what they're doing
as far as their handedness goes. They're gonna do. They're gonna,
you know, go short side, you know, or they're gonna
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look for a pass play and go you know, cross ice.
Some of the defensemen, you know, they're gonna take shots
from the point. Yeah, these guys know what they're gonna do.
So the handedness to me, doesn't really make much of
a difference. It It just kind of is what it is.
You know, there's only two handed two handedness that you
could be you could be lefty or you could be ready.
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That's not gonna usually dictate what side that you're playing on.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right right, Benny's saying, you know, thank you've been saying
that the youngly ones always count. Swoopy always says take
that as you will. Uh as Swoopy, he's saying, mitchkov
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is really due. I feel he will be bringing some
excitement soon. Look forward to it. I think so. I
think that you know, he's working on his stuff. He's
you know, I'm not worried. I think he'll he'll he'll
get it back up, you know, I just again give
it time.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, Mitchie is starting to look like himself a little
bit more. You can see tonight to Dragon utilizing something
his feet a little bit. I think he's starting to
get back into shape.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I mean, the movie made in the shootouts so fucking spectacular.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So so Anaheim's going to uh overtime right now. Guess
who's having himself a hell of a start to the season.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Let me guesser.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Cutter's got six goals on the night or on the season.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
One of the next goals one night? What the fuck?
Yeah said, what does he think he's Savannah Jad all
of a sudden where he could just score five goals?
Whenever he fucking feels like it.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
At least he's not. It's not the ovettrick, you know,
that's what nine He had nine in the commercial.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yes, yes, not in real life, by the way, folks,
in case you're wondering, that is not based on a
true story, although with ove being the guy who has
the most goals in history, I wouldn't put it past
him so anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But yeah, it's it's been. They've been fun to watch
Cutters Cutters looking great. So you all, you know what.
I'm gonna bring this up a little bit later, but
you know, getting back to the game. The one thing
I really enjoyed about this is they took a couple
of things away from the Penguins that they that they
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should have. I'm still trying to figure out why in
overtime when Malkins scored it wasn't too many men. Apparently
Apparently when and then the whan there's a penalty called
the goalie jumping to the bench. It's considered a premature substitution.
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I think it's how they phrased it, yes, which I
guess kind of. I guess it's not really too many men.
But in that same breath, you're you're swapping players, I
guess because it's not a line change. That's where it
kind of deviates from the rule.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
What's weird about it, too, is that apparently the Dave
Jackson can't even like give you a reason as to
why that is the rule at the end of the day.
It's like, so, what you're telling me is is that
the NHL never thought to tie up this loose end
in the rule book, like at any point in time like.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
That.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Just it sounds like something that they should have addressed
a long time ago. If that is the rule, it's like,
should be too many men on the ice? Plus Also,
what also is weird, and this is kind of strange.
So the penalty was on the Flyers. Okay, first off,
they completely ignored a penalty that happened in Pittsburgh zone
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that was again on the Penguins. But that's besides the point.
The point is is that, so you're calling the penalty
on the Flyers and it was a penalty, I'm not
gonna say it wasn't. However, I don't think at any
point any of the Flyers got possession of the puck.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So even so, good point.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So yeah, even so, it's like, so you blew the
play dead and technically Malgan scored, but the reason why
he scores because Ersen got up because he thought that
the play was over. But my point is is that
so you essentially not only robbed the Flyers at one
point of the game, you robbed the Penguins of the
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game too at one point because you have this weird
rule for the premature substitution and the Flyers never once
got possession of the puck and they were having a
penalty called on them.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's messy, very very messy situation that happened there.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I mean, ultimately, it did take the goal back that
Malcolm did score, so it did take away the game
winning goal that de Penguins would have had. So I'm
good with that. The thing, I just don't understand the rule.
But I mean, like I said, I guess what it
really comes down to is having to deviate from a
line change swap to a delayed penalty. Well, I guess,
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I mean, like I said, it doesn't really I guess
it's I mean, at this point it doesn't matter because
Flyers wound up winning. But I just thought it was
an interesting kind of explanation was you're saying is because
it's not a line change. It's essentially premature substitution, because
it's it's a delayed penalty, and it's not because I
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thought they initially was gonna be, Oh, it's gonna be
it's a four on four. Now, you know, Knocking got
off the bench or jumped off the bench early. Celia's
not at the bench. They blew the whistle as soon
as Knocking got the puck. Okay, we're gonna have an
even strength four on four here in overtime, let's go.
That wasn't the case obviously, But like I said, they
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took the goal back, which is always a good thing,
so you do like to see that. But ultimately I
thought Benny brought up a good point or not Benny, Sorry,
Joe brought up a good point earlier in the show.
He said the Flyers time. I thought the Flyers did
a really good job in the first two periods of
you know, puck control, maintaining his own pressure and getting
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shots on Celia. I thought, silly, I've had a fantastic game.
I think this game could have been way worse as
far as the score goes. Sillyav made a bunch of
stupid staves that he probably shouldn't have, so he really
kept them in this game. And you know, Pittsburgh should
be thankful that they got a point out of this game,
because realistically, I don't think they should have.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, they did not deserve the point that they got today,
But at the end of the day, sheilavs he delivered
it to him. At the end of the day, Let's
see Joe saying I'm patient when it comes to Mitchikov,
but I am getting sick of his blind behind the
back passes that always result transition chants for the other team. Yeah, well, again,
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growing pains. He'll learn. And then he also goes on
to say not loving Kate centering a line with Di Lo.
He is too good to play with the fourth liners.
And I agree Kate should not be a fourth liner.
He has proven that he has more than enough skill
to be on a higher line. But again, we're also
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gonna see the jumbling of the lines unfortunately at times,
because this is a team that's still as much as
we like to say that the identity is getting there,
it has not been completely formed yet. So we're unfortunately
going to see this happen. I'm not saying I agree
with where he's at. I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
It's not for me. It's not even a question of
where he's at. You can't break that lineup right now.
It's the best line you got. Florister is one of
the hottest players on this team. Break had a filthy
shootout goo tonight. How do you break that lineup? I can't.
I can't see them doing that. There's no good reason to.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Do that, right And Kate's also has had his moments
in the sun too, where he's scored several goals the.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Way m I was about to kill off a penalty
in overtime.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
M interesting. I've any saying you can't be outworked in
the third period against the team on a back to back.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, that's a good point, Benny. It's a good point, Benny,
because they were. They were outworked. Pittsburgh came back in
that third period. I thought they played way too conservative,
especially in the offensive zone, and they it really get
many good chances in the third period at all. That
most of their chances came in the second right.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I think it was also the I think it was
wanting to protect the lead, which again as I've said before,
there is with defensive hockey. There is a good way
to do it. There's a bad way to do it,
and it's a love hate relationship. It's great when you've
got the players that can just shut a team down.
It's another thing when you just let the team keep
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coming back at you and you're just hanging back hoping
to stop them from scoring. It's like that is not
protecting the leading. That's just letting the team have multiple
opportunities to eventually score on you. It's like, what the
fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, ducks just called a break. Duck's called a break.
Oh my gosh. Evan Rodriguez beat out a puck and
the duck's got the icing call, all because Jackson Lacomb
leaned in like a hair. I love it left golf.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Uh So, got a question here from Priz that I
started saying, Thomas Harley eight year, ten point fifty nine
million dollars per year. Extension prices are going up for
young players extensions. Which young flyer would you be willing
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to lock up right now? I'm thinking Forster.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I gotta look at the Oh, there's some there's some
jawing going on after this game too. I think the
Ducks got wind of what was happening and they were like,
you know, let's do that. Yeah, this is the defending
Stanley Cup champs.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah yeah, let's let's just show up the champs. Why not.
I mean, hey, listen, that's what you do. Got a
bullseye on your back, got a ton of work on it, panthers.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So to answer Prison's question qu Prison's questions, kind of
it's tough to answer right now because the guys that
I would lock up are guys that you can't. I
can't really lock anybody up right now because some of
these guys have already been resigned. So the question is
gonna have to wait at least another year or two
(30:15):
to really be able to answer. Like for I get it,
like I see where he's coming from. So he's probably
gonna say after his contract is up, which made sense
to me. It would be Forster. I would absolutely one
hundred percent lock up Forster. He's just smart with the pocket.
He's good. He's got such a heavy shot. I love
(30:35):
his IQ. He's smart in the offensive zone. He's pretty
reliable on the defensive side as well. You can use
him in multiple situations. He could play both center and
he can play off the wing. So to me, that's
I'm with Pert on this. To me, it's got to
be Forster.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Forster still has what looks like two years on his
contract and then he's an RFA.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, this is Uh, he's in his new contract.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Now, okay, and then I mean Zigres is in RFA
next year.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, he still has a lot to be desired before
I give him a long term deal.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Hey Heather, Oh hey Heather, what's up? Sorry? I was
looking at my phone there. Let's oh, actually I probably
should put my phone away. The teachers here, Ah, who's
in net?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Is that Terrosov? Yeah it is. This is the first
off I'm getting to watch this game. So the Flyers
taking my attention.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I was just saying, they look like they're not working.
Their problem is their lack of foot speed. It's not
that the Flyers have a lack of speed. It's just that,
like like Benny was saying, they were getting out worked.
If you're you know, you know, if you you gotta
keep the pace up, you know, the Flyers do have,
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you know, the ability to speed, like we've seen players
go fast on this squad. It's just that. Yeah, it's
just it's not that they don't have speed, it's just
that they weren't working in the third period. So that's
really where the problem was.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, so speed's not everything in the NHL. Yeah, you
need speed, absolutely, one hundred percent agree. You definitely need
some speed, but it's not everything. I think Terry just scored. Yeah,
let's go. Speed isn't Speed isn't everything. You definitely need
to be able to utilize speed in certain situations when
you have your odd man rushes and you know, breakaways,
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that that's really where you need to speed. Otherwise you
just need to be able to stick with your man,
be able to you know, use more physicality than anything
to box players out and you know, yeah, I mean,
I agree, it's definitely tip it Tip it's definitely their
fastest guy. But said, speed isn't everything in the NHL.
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It's definitely a speed game now, but you still need
to have some physicality and I think that's the one
thing that the Flyers do have and they utilize really
well well.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think I think give it time, I think Mitchkov
will probably pick up the pace on his on his
speed side too, I believe.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I agree. Oh, what the heck they scored.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Bobby Brink is actually an RFA next year.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Ew oh MacTavish you dirty, dirty boy. H oh that
was nasty.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh, thank you, thank you, Heather. I appreciate the warning.
I really couldn't afford another write up. I'd be in detention.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Uh he's wide, so.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I mean, yeah, from what it looks like, because let's go, Sorry, Maddie,
I got you. Brink is an RFA come next year.
Break keeps it up, though, I would have to say,
you'd have to take a look into that.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I'm not giving it. I'm not locking him up though.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I'm not saying but I'm just saying, give some consideration,
you know, if he keeps up the if he keeps
up the.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Play, oh, I mean I'm I'm keeping him regardless r
if you have his rights, so I'm if he keeps
it up, he's to me, he's working his way to
a three or four year extension right now. Yeah, around four,
four and a half maybe five.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, I think that would be fair. I think the
only real big deals that the Flyers still currently have
that are active. I mean, Owen Tippet's got a long one,
and then so does Coots, and so does connect Me.
I mean, Kotz was given his deal because they were
pretty much going to make him the captain, and Connectney
was a no brainer. So they're the only ones that
are currently full on locked in right now. And Tippet's
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contract is ironclad.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So you know, there's not like to me, like the
guys that I would son, I've already signed an extension,
so it's it's not really like anybody would there's anybody
that would really like lock up to a contract like that,
at least at the moment. Like I said, Brink, I
need to see a little bit more out of give
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him a bridge deal like he gave Forrester Forster and
at the end of his second year, at the end
of this contract, if he's still is where he is,
I'm I'm good. I'm I'm locking him up. Jigris Jigres
looks great. I think he did he have another point
again tonight. Yes, So he's got nine points in nine games.
(35:38):
Like I said before, the kids got a swagger back,
so you know, he exploded against the Islanders and then
he's had like he's he's averaging point per game. He
can't ask more than that, No, I would. I would
be discussing with his agent if he wants to stay here,
and with the way that he's playing and the way
that he's really fitting in with this team, I would
be shocked if he he he doesn't want to resign.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Him, right, I think? I think if anything, Zigris, you
talk about a guy who I think is really this
is a perfect prime example of change of location. Does
you wonders if you want to look up the definition
of that in the dictionary. Look at this trade that
the Flyers went and made with the Ducks to go
get them.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
They lost the first one, but they're certainly winning the
second one. And by the way, LJ, I love you, brother,
appreciate you every week you're here. Love it. Flyers are
five to three and one with the roster that they
have right now, they're currently sitting in the walk art spot.
I know we're nine games in. I'm not really gonna
bank too much on that, but I'm just saying they're
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five to three in one right now. They're looking pretty good.
I'm not going to complain too much about, you know,
the lack of speed on this team, the lack of
five on five or the lack of a man rushers.
They're finding ways to win hockey games. That's all that matters, brother,
that's all that matters. And they're beating teams they probably
shouldn't beating either, like they should beating Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is
playing out of their mind right now.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
M I mean, hell, they beat the Islanders. The Islanders
have been a freaking difficult team to go up against.
So I mean, they beat Minnesota in overtime, so it
was like, you know, they've they've been busting their ass
getting these victories.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Surprise of Minnesota is down as low as they are
right now. They're they're not playing their best hockey right now.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
No, they're not. At least the Flyers were able to
take advantage of that.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
They have three wins right now.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
That's pretty bad for them.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Three wins.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
That's not good for them.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
And for PRIs tip of the cab, brother, you guys
above five hundred for now, enjoy it, why you can.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Heathery're saying she wish you could stay, but she's got
a great papers. Now, well, you enjoy doing that, Heather,
have fun. Don't great too harshly, I mean, I hope
not give them a couple of breaks. It's only the
beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Oh god, I hope I passed. I don't want to fit.
I don't need to feel again.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I already did because she's already mad at me because
of my phone.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Gonna give you a pass. I just hope I didn't fail.
She fails me all the time. I don't think she
likes me anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh well, you know, I mean, hey, you you shouldn't
have said those things about you know, Fidotov when you
did ye oh four to one Wings? Right now? Okay?
All right?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Wings came looking for win number seven or they finished
with for one, ran up for one. Yeah, so they're
looking for win number seven?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
All right, all right, Wings coming out to play early on.
I mean, they have a lot to prove. This team
has to get off the Schneider and make the playoffs.
There's no excuse for them anymore. Yeah, they be, they
be Carolina fuck got screwed. Yeah that was that was rough.
That's a rough loss to take.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I mean, you got you know how I feel mad
about that. I know it is what it is. I
don't think they got I think I think it was
the right call. It might have been just the slightest
might have been one of the softer goaltender interferences call
that I've seen, But Sanheim should not have been in
the crease. He was in the crease. He was in
the crease.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
But again I will say this though on a positive note,
the Flyers didn't let that get them down because the
very next game, those same Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers
that they lost to in Florida came to Philly and
they beat them in the home opener, and that got
the ball rolling for them as they moved forward. Sure,
they had a little bit of a miscue against Winnipeg
(39:35):
that was a bad game, but they've been playing great
since then. And it's like, you know what, Dave rous
from the ashes like a phoenix on that Carolina loss.
If anything, I can get motivated them to beat the
next team.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, yeah, what's up?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Jim Yo Jim saying this was a good point for
the Penguins seven to two, and the point, since seven
straight games, are the Rangers really this bad?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
They might be?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
They have they have plummet. Actually, I don't think plummet
is the right word. I think they got thrown out
of a fucking plane at one thousand feet have just
been crashing down to earth big time right now, since
then no parachute at all?
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Or can we can we really say that? I can?
Can we can we say this is Mike Sullivan a
product of having Sydney Crosby and of Guiney Walkin and
Marc Andre Fleury.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
You might be onto something.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
The Rangers on paper are a very good team, and
I get it. It's it's we're we're not even ten
games into the season yet, but you know, the Rangers
have a really good lineup too. Sometimes it does take
a little while for a team to adjust to a
new coach. But I'm also throwing that question out because
it there there might be something to it that maybe
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Mike Sullivan was only as good without or with with Crosby.
It's a possibility. I mean, we'll see how the rest
of the season, the season kind of plays out, But
I mean, right now, that's my question.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
It's interesting. It's interesting when you think about it. I
mean we I mean, we saw what happened when Dan
Bosma was gone from Pittsburgh and that did not end
well when he left Pittsburgh, So I don't know, you
might be onto something there. We might be seeing another
(41:43):
Dan Boisma situation start to pop up here.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Mark in my opinion, he in my opinion, Uh, you know,
I think Sullivan was was there too long, Bosma was
there too long. But yeah, I mean that that kind
of proves my point there, Jim is Sullivan moves on
to the Rangers, struggling early, this new coach who's never
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had been a head coach in the NHL, any team
in the in the league. He's seven to and two
to start his career. Kind of my point, you know,
is is he having success because of Sidney Crosby? That's that,
like I said, that will be that will be my
(42:28):
my question.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I mean he Jim does bring up a good point though.
Do you think Crosby and Malkin actually listen to Sullivan?
Not a chance?
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I mean, oh no, I one hundred percent think they did.
One hundred percent. If you look at the way that
Crosby is as a leader, I one hundred percent believe
that he was Him and Mike Sullivan were always in
each other's ear. One hundred percent. I have no reason
to believe otherwise. Malcolm, Eh, Malcolm, I can kind of
see absolutely hundred percent, but not Crosby. Crosby's Crosby is
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a leader, He's he's a team guy.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Then you say, maybe.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I would go up to Johns.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
John is saying where's Brad? He he sure was stooting
his horn after the first Eagles Giants game.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yep, he's he's hiding in his cave somewhere like the
troll he is.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I mean, I will say the You know, I was
kind of shocked when I found that. When I saw
that the Eagles lost to the Giants, I'm like, huh, really, like,
out of all the teams to lose to you lost
to them.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Jackson Dart has re ignited the Giants organization. Jackson Dart
looks very good.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Okay, I was just I just assumed that the Giants
were gonna stink like they always do because they haven't
been relevant in how many years?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
They started that way started that way when Russell Wilson started.
I think it was the first two or three games.
Giants looked like trash. And then Jackson Dark came in
and that you know, he's he's looked incredible. He's reignited
that offense. That offense moves. You know, it's unfortunate that
Cam Scataboo had that injury, he was he was looking unstoppable.
(44:23):
I just you know, it's unfortunate to see what happened
with that ankle, and obviously, you know, wishing him, you know,
speedy recovery. He had surgery and Philly, so obviously we
send well wishes and hopefully he's he's back for a
week one next year.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
M Absolutely, hey, Eileen, how are youen? LJ was saying,
how about the Sixers? Four?
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Oh, looking good, looking good? EJ's looking fantastic, Tyreese, Max,
he's a superstar.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Winning is infectious, I think the I think the Flyers
getting their wins I think helped spread it over to
the Sixers. So you know, as they say, winning is infectious.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
And the one thing I always say too is you
you know, when you create a good culture in your
locker room, it's it just breeds.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
It just breeds winning, right, And like I said, I
think the way that this Flyer seems going right now,
I think that that's starting to really get developed, you know,
spot on.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
And you know what I said this during the off season.
I'm going to say it again. Here, what's up?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
S J? M.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, where's my Where's my invite.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, where the fuck was our invites there?
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Nerd No. So what I was saying is you bring it.
You're bringing in all these guys that have personality, bringing up,
bringing in all these guys that want to win, they
want to play well. You bring it in and you
put them all together, and you have personalities and tk
zs York has a bit, you know, it's you. Just
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you bring in all these guys together that know how
to have fun together and and all that. Again, it
breeds positive energy, it breeds good culture, and it breeds
it breeds guys playing well, and playing well leads to wins.
And like I said, I think with the coach that
they have now, he's allowing them to be more of
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themselves and allow them to play their game to an extent.
And with Pocket behind the bench, and then again having
a head coach who understands the situations in each game
because he's played it in basically every aspect that you
can think of, as far as being an offensive juggernaut,
being a defensive player, being a grinder, being a gritty player.
(46:52):
He's he's been there, so he understands a little bit
better and can explain and break down more in practice
ways to fix it. I just don't think Torts was
the guy to be able to do that. So I
think this is this is a huge step, this culture
that they're building right now. Even going back into Torts was.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Awesome, right right, Sham saying, dude, it was.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Through work whatever. Dude.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Aileen's saying Flyers for life, baby, that's right, yeah, and
Totoro twenty six saying we're undefeated in the shootout. Who
would have thunked it?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
I know, right, what happens when you have talent, right.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Also, we might be living in the end times, that's
probably why.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
So anyway, I never did say when it was going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Right, Apparently we were waiting for the Flyers to get
good at the shootout. Who knew? So the Sixers, with
a crazy comeback win, took it to ot and one four. Oh.
Then Aileen's saying, where's the dru jersey? I thought you
were an Anaheim fan?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Oh oh, I love d Drew, one of my favorite
players in the league.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Jesus J's a phenomenal flyer. I mean, hell, I've I
have a Flyers jersey of him, but I might just
spring and get me uh Panthers and fucking Jersey Senators
jersey of is because I love g that much at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, it's the same reason why I have Patrick Kayne jersey.
It's the same reason why I have a Rod Brenda
Moore jersey. It's the same reason why I have Chemo
team in a jersey. Do you know I I collect
jerseys for my favorite players, And I'm debating in the
back of my head. We just got a Minnesota Wild
jersey in a work that was kind of random. I'm
thinking about buying it myself.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Interesting is it a capriceov one or is it a blank?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
No? It is a blank. It was their alternate jersey.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Ah got you got you? You're right, Eileen Drew is
freaking spectacular. So am I done that saying? Anybody got
a Utah jersey?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
I don't know if I'm going too. I like the jerseys.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I just the logo I think is actually pretty good.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Though jerseys are expensive.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
They are, but I do like the logo. I do
like the logo that they have great. Soto was saying,
if Zegra is still a winger in the third line.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I think he's been playing in a couple of different positions.
He's kind of all over the place. And right now,
if I'm talking, I'm playing in top six minutes because
of how good he's been. Nine points and nine games,
two of them goals. You know, he's got an apple
just just about every single game he's played. Let's I can't.
(49:41):
I can't keep him on the third line. I got
to play him more often. He's a quarterback on the
power play right now too.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Zegres has been like I said,
like you've been saying, man, he's getting that swiger back
to him. You know, It's like I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I love it. He calls the scrump and I like,
that's saying, baby, I got my swagger back. Let's go like, like, come.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
On, he's doing fucking like shit. Heel things too to
the other team. It's just like okay, and then it's
got some balls of steel rolling around up in here,
you know, to do some cheap shit like that. But okay,
all right.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
I mean I love what I'm seeing from him.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Better he better be ready. That's all I can say.
It is like, all right, man, you're gonna have to
defend yourself. You're going to do chicken shit shit, just saying,
just saying.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Before we jump into the jet talk, I do want
to bring up something that I do like that I've
been seeing over the last couple of games. Sam Erson.
I'm still not huge on him. I still don't think
he's going to be the guy. So I'm standing by
what I said there. The one thing that I do
like that I'm seeing from him is he's playing a
(50:51):
little bit more confidence. I think that game against the
Islanders kind of really got him going. And I know
he gave up I think he gave up three goals
in that game, but if he saw some of the
staves that he was making, it, he really made some
spectacular staves that really saved this game, saved the game
for them, allowed it to get to his shootout, Especially
(51:11):
the third period in overtime. He was just absolutely spectacular.
I saw the same thing again tonight. He third period
in overtime. Who's making save after saves, Some of them
were a little bit more dangerous than others. Just the
fact that I think he's seeing the puck pretty well,
he's going side to side pretty well, He's getting his
glove and good position to snag some pocks. I mean,
(51:35):
let's be real. Outside of the Crosby goal, Fly should
have won that game. There should have been absolutely no way,
no way that Crosby scores that goal.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
LJ was asking if Zegris gets a one game suspension.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
No, he might get fine, but I don't think he's
getting suspended too.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
And Totoro is saying that Sam is the backup and
that the other guy, Vladar is our starter.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
PA could saying otherwise, But I mean, I think that erson.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
I think what happened here is I think he's going
through a bit of a confidence issue. I think that
I think that's what the problem is. He's getting very
self conscious, and goalies are very they can be precious
at times, so you got to be careful with that.
So confidence is very key for them, and so I
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think that that's what he's going through right now. But
with a win like this and getting a strong one
in the shootout like that, you know, I think that
will do real big wonders for that as they move forward.
I think bringing Vladari in, do I think it had
the immediate effect that we wanted it to have. Maybe not.
(53:00):
I think Ladar playing really strong at the very start
of the season and he did. I think that might
have helped. It might have instigated a little bit of
Ersen being a little bit self conscious. I hope not,
but that's I have no evidence to show for that.
But I think Tacket, though, saying what he has said,
(53:22):
and being that he has an investment in on Arson,
I think that'll also go a long way to show that, Hey,
the coach is backing you. The coach believes in you,
this team believes in you. There's no reason to get worried.
There's no reason to get self conscious. Now you'll be
all right, you know. I think that that will help,
(53:44):
you know, with him as he moves forward, besides also
getting the results that he needs to get.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
But yeah, the results are coming in. I think we're
starting to see that, and I, like you said, the
confidence is growing. And I think the reason why we're
not going to see the starter or like the official starter,
Pocket has come out and said he's just playing whoever's
got the hotter hand right now. So whether it be
Vladar or Erison, outside of a back to back, you're
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going to see one or the other. He's going to
alternate him until one of them really takes control. But
I mean, if they can get to the point where
sam Rison continues to play the way that he has
been playing over the last couple of games, it's a
nice problem to have, right.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
I Mean, again, we knew going into this that you know,
it wasn't going to be a true starter, and I
don't really think we have a true starter. It's a tandem.
Vlodar in Erson are a tandem.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Right, I agree? And you know, like I said, it's
going to be moving forward because I mean that Vladar
has been great. You know, I'm surprised that he's playing
as well as he is, and I'm hoping that it
levels Arison back to playing well enough. But I just
I neither one of these guys to me, screams I'm
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a start in the NHL. Together, They're fine.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
I mean, I'll be honest, Brian, I'm not as surprised
with Lada's play because I think Ladora has something to
prove to himself, if anything, you know, after coming out
of the situation he came out of in Calgary, I
think he has something he wants to prove. You know, Yeah,
Wolf was going to be the future, but I think
Lador wanted to show like, no, I still have something
(55:35):
to contribute. At the end of the day, he feels
this is it.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
I don't think he's ever not been that guy. I
just I don't see him as a starter. I mean
if he if he was a starter, I mean, he
would have stuck around in in Calgary. But I mean
he also got pushed out the door by Dustin Wolf
because he decided he wanted to be a superstar, which
I don't blame them, but you know, it's the saying
(56:05):
that you know, Vladar's career back our career save percentages
as a goalie is you know, eight ninety seven. You
know his goals against his nice I mean, he's he's
slightly slightly below league average. But again, this this is
a story of the Flyershers have two backups. They're just
(56:25):
buying time to let Jannison develop, so Reagan develop and
get out of his contract in the KHL, because I
think those two guys, those two guys are your future.
Those two guys are the future, and they're just waiting
for these guys to develop and get out of their
deals so they can come up. To be honest, in
he could be up as early as this year. Honestly,
depending on how he's playing in the in the AHL,
(56:48):
the same thing with Kolosof. Kolosof could wind up back
up here. You never really know, right, there's an opportunity
everybody outside of the two guys that are in the
NHL right now, they're all still super young and they
still have a massive upside to them. Kolosov just got
humbled and he needed to. He's playing pretty well in
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the AHL right now. He's not setting the world on
fire yet, but he's playing pretty well.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
It's a great learning curve. And you know, that's what
he's going through.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
I mean, his ego is through the roof and that's
where getting crushed the way that he did by the
Flyers in the NHL, I think he absolutely needed it.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
That's where I think the real challenge can be with
you know, but again, young guy thought he was hot. Shit.
He comes into the NHL, he realized, oh fuck, this
is not like the KHL. Nope, not at all, not
even a little bit.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
Now I'm going to try and see if I can
find AHL stats here we go. Okay, so just for
the year, just to kind of give you an idea
for the year, Uh, where are they This is what
year is this? Twenty five, twenty six? Yes, four games,
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he's got a two point five goals against, he's got
a nine to save percentage. That's four games. Kind of
a small sample size, but still like that's saying a
lot of a guy who came in here and floundered
in the NHL, floundered in the HL last year. So
whatever he did this offseason, he's got himself centered again.
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So that's saying a lot. You know, this is these
two guys are just here to buy some time. What's up?
Chrome appreciate you checking in, bro Yo Crumb. I don't
know why he yelled, but I did.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
I couldn't. You had to make sure he hurt you.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Yeah, absolutely, undred Yeah we'll go with that. But again,
these guys are just here to buy time. That's that's
really all they're trying to do. They're buying time until
these these young cats are ready to go.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, well you have a good night, Eileen, good night, Ileen,
Tot saying it's so great to have the Flyers back.
I think we make the playoffs, but I'm probably delusional.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
I don't think you're I don't think you're delusional. I
think they fall just short. But with the way that
things are kind of panning out so far earlier in
this year, this is some crazy shit going on, So
you never know.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
I'm not gonna comment. I don't want to drink nothing.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
So I'm just by what I've been saying.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
I'm just gonna I'm gonna enjoy the wins while we
have them. Let's worry about the playoffs. In March, LJ
saying Stolars was a career minor leaguer that turned it
to a good goalie in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
That's my point. That's kind of my point out of all.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
The places too, for him to thrive Toronto, in a
place where they just eat goalies up, he.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
Really started finding his He really, he really started finding
his footing in Anaheim.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Oh yeah, good point, good point.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
He really that's where he really started to find it.
And then from there he just kind of carried it
to Edmonton, to Florida and anywhere else he was in between.
So that's really where he started to find his fighting
was Anaheim, and he just he did the smart thing.
This is the thing that I love and respect about
Stoley so much is that he rode the waves you know,
he wasn't trying to be Hey, I'm a starter, I'm
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this guy. He bought his time. He learned from the
guys that he played behind. It. He had some good
guys to play behind, Jonathan Gibson, Sarah Gray Babrowski, like
those are two the better goaltenders to learn from. And
he bought his time, got his opportunity in Toronto, and
he took it. He took it to a round. So,
you know, tip of the cap to Stolely. I love it.
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I love it, Jersey boy, let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
It's our saying. I know the Islanders were trying to
jump us in the draft for Porter Martone or offered
us a huge deal. Do you guys know what the
actual rumored deal was. No, not really, No.
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I know Pittsburgh tried to jump us to get Jack
nesbitt mm hmm. But Nashville liked our deal better, which
honestly was a better deal because you know, Pittsburgh kind
of forced the Flyer Sands fires one of them, but
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Nashville took the Flyers deal. That's the only deal that
I know of off the top of my head that
with leaked. Hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
So speaking of that, speaking of trade talk, have you
been hearing the rumor mill about the Flyers taking calls
on trading a d man.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
No, but it wouldn't surprise me. I kind of think
they need to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
There's some rumors going around that they might possibly be
looking into getting a top four defensive player.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I mean, I think they're at the point now where
they need to start considering additions this early in the year.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I mean, it's probably preliminary, so I wouldn't expect a
deal to be made anytime soon. But I mean, hey,
you could always do preliminary talks early on and just
kind of get a feel of what's going on around
the league and what people might be thinking of so
and so, and you know, set things up for the
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trade deadline. Possibly.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
It depends on who. For me, it depends on who.
If i'm adding right now, I am adding relatively young,
top four defensemen in their prime. That's what I'm adding.
Top four defenseman in the prime. I can't take another kid.
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If this team wants to add, they got to start
bringing the talent in. I've heard tip a link to Buffalo.
There's a couple of guys on that roster that I
would consider. I don't think they're gonna get rid of Dollan,
which is fine, Just send send Owen Power back. I'm
just kidding, I do. I do love Owen Power, though
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I think he's a stud. But if I'm if I'm
adding a defenseman, uh mid twenties, mid mid to late twenties,
top four defensemen, That's that's what I would do. But
I they have to start adding at some point. I
think now it's the time. You know, they're they're playing well,
they're again. I know we're we're not even ten games in,
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but right now they're in a playoff spot. Yeah, they're playing.
They're playing I think above what I thought they'd be
playing at this point. They're they're getting off through a
good start. Build off it right, build off it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
So with that, we could talk about Muchenko before we
close out this edition of Flyers Talk at D Was
there anything you wanted to throw out there with the
Jed lu Chenko being sent down to the OHL Just.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
That I really agree with it. I it's not so
much that I don't think he's gonna it's not gonna
hinder or it's not gonna really hurt his development at all.
The thing with a guy like Jet. He's one of
your top prospects in the organization. You know, he's showing
some signs that he's gonna be a mid sixth center in
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the league. If you can't guarantee him top line minutes
or minutes that he's gonna be able to really see
the ice and kind of make his game grow, you
can't keep him up here. That's gonna hinder him more
than him being sent back down. Personally, I would have
rather him go to the HL, but again with the
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league changes, it's just that's not until next year. So
he's got to go somewhere, right, He's not getting minutes
up here. He's playing every couple of games, and when
he is playing, he's playing like twelve minutes a game.
When he's been out there, he's been pretty much invisible.
So he's got to play. He's got to play top minutes.
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Like Danny said in his presser after they announced that
that he's being sent down, he's got to play top minutes.
He's not getting it here. He's not getting it here, right,
He's got to go back.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Down, right, Yeah, put him to the place where he
can grow, where he get to fill him.
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
He's nineteen.
Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
No, I don't think Jet wasn't mistake, not at all.
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
He's nineteen. Like I said, he's nineteen, has a lot
of growing to do.
Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
No, I think Jet has a lot of potential. I mean,
the Flyers trade up to get him, and I honestly,
his first go round with the Flyers, I could see
why he was flying, and he was able to get
in on plays and he was setting things up real well.
So the potential is all there. It's just that again,
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it's you know, you're either ready or you're not, and
he's not ready right now.
Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
And to me, if he's not nineteen, he's going to
be ahl. So when he starts playing well again, you
can bring him up. He looked good for the Fantoms
in the playoff push. You know, he put himself in
a good position. He you know, took smart shots, shut
off his speed, got a few points. You know, he
looked good. Right, He looked good in his first stint
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with the Flyers last year. But you know, apparently he's
got a little bit of an injury and it's kind
of made him a little bit more invisible. I don't
think it's a mistake at all. I think it's way
too soon to tell.
Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
All of his all of the talent that you know
is required to make it in the NHL he has.
He's not that. It's just he you know, he's still
very young and given time and it'll work out. Not
everybody can be Mitchkoff who can immediately come in. You
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know that you have to Not everybody can be Guttier.
When we drafted him, he was immediately on the team.
It's like, not everybody's going to be that. Sometimes tasts
a little bit longer, but eventually there they come in
through TK spent about a year on the Phantoms and
then he was up the next year and he never
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went back.
Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Sometimes it takes a little bit of time. It also
depends on what age you're getting drafted. Jelachenko was young
when he got drafted. He wasn't even eighteen when he
got drafted, right, You think a lot of people team
to forget right.
Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Mitchkoff was like, what twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Mitch COOFB was Yeah, I think it was twenty, right,
so a little bit older, yeah, and also playing in
a very different league. You know, he's not playing in
the CHL. He's playing in he's playing the KJO he's
playing in Russia. You know, he didn't drop because of
a talent issue or an attitude issue or anything like that.
He dropped because nobody knew when his contract was going
to be done, right, which Jenny was able to finagle
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Mitchcob to come over. But you know whatever, you gotta
love it. But you know, with Jet at least you
know he's he needs time. Some of these guys need
time to develop. Jack Hues didn't look good in this
first couple of years either, And now look him. He's
a stud. Mm hmmm, here's an absolute stud. He's carrying
the doubles right now. Yeah, someone needs to His flights
(01:08:19):
are absolutely nasty. By the way, his skates they are gross.
I wish I could get a custom option like that
for mine.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Well, all you got to do is get drafted into
the NHL.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I mean these are mine nice. I'm pretty sick, but
I mean they're not his. His are all white. They're
so gross. I have to try and find a picture
for you and send it over again.
Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Get drafted in the NHL, and there problem solved.
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Here's the problem, though, I'm trying to get in when
everybody else is retiring.
Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
It's small, small semantics, no big deal whatever. Alright, So
with that being said, I think that's it for this
edition of Flyers Talk A too D. We thank everybody
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for jumping into the chat here with us the fan
once again, the lifeblood of a two D. You guys
pushing us through those are.
Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
A look at how dirty those are. That is absolute filth.
Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
That's a beautiful schedule right there.
Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Mm nasty nasty.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
So next week here on Flyers Talk a two D,
take a quick look here see the schedule for the Flyers. Maybe,
just maybe with a little bit of luck, do we
have a game? Yes, we do because next week is
November fourth, for us, is it? Yes? It is all right,
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So the Flyers at seven o'clock sharp, they will be
taking on for the first time this year, the Toronto
Maple Leafs. So our first game against Austin Matthews without
Mitch Marner as he is now a Vegas Golden Knight.
So this will be.
Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Wait what Montreal?
Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Oh sorry, I don't gona lat.
Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Yeah, Toronto's the first Toronto Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Really. Oh oh yeah, you're right, My bad, Yeah, yeah
it is Montreal. Never mind. So the first time we'll
be facing the Montreal squad that basically became the young
pups that became world beaters last year that got into
the wildcard. So all right, then there we go. Oh
and mitchkalv was nineteen okay, okay then anyway, So the
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