A2DRadio Wednesday Night Show-Maxey & Edgecombe Drive Sixers to Perfect 4-0 Start! Are They LEGIT_

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Speaker 2 (01:12):
Arno and everybody out there. Welcome man. Let's go. Eagles
trade from Michael Carter, the.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Second not the first, you're you're curious the second. We'll
discuss that later on the show Sixers upcoming week. I mean,
it's gotta be topic of conversation. It's a bye week
and we're off to a four and zero start. Is
this Tyrese Maxie's Team VJ Rookie of the Year. We're
gonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Out of control of tonight. I mean expect for.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Us to just be like we got the tents on
Broad Street. Things are happening, Things are happening. Come on
board with us, enjoyed it?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Why are they? What the comments not coming up? I
just do that. I don't know. Sorry, that's all me.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, you know it's for me to worry about, okay,
But what's for you guys to worry about is the
poll question. The sensational performance of Maxie and Edgecombe confirmed.
The Sixers are now BONA five Eastern Conference contenders. Do
you agree or disagree?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Let us know?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
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Speaker 2 (02:16):
Apps. So freaking lutely, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
What I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
We got eyeballs, everybody got eyes can everybody see right,
this is this is electric. This is an exciting time.
This might be one of the great signs of our
life right now that we're sitting through. It's not gonna
be that great, Okay, like what we're talking about cutting
that's down.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Let's not get carried away, even though I was joking
about that early.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
But this is fun to watch and it's really a
breadth of fresh air and way Tyrese Maxie is playing
right now, they're absolutely bona fied Eastern Conference contenders. I mean,
that's star right there. If we watch the first four games,
that guy lay in games is even better. Okay, there's
a reason we came back and in all four games, right,
there's a reason we've we've been the comeback kids early

(02:56):
on here, because when the lights get bright and the
seven minutes left in the fourth quarter, we talk about
it all the time, that's where you're gonna find out
who the best players are, right, That's when you find
out on all those times, he's been one of the
best players. He's made he's made most of our big points.
That's not some big shots from other guys, absolutely right,
but he's been the key piece to it, the key

(03:20):
piece to it. Let's that's what I feel when I'm
watching them, right, And so the effector that and the
effected what you see from DJ as a rookie.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay, any guy who's averaging.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Twenty two a game is a rookie four games in, right,
we don't expect them to average twenty five a game.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
That's not fair to ask.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
And his worst performance was probably last night and it
wasn't even bad. And that's when I back to back
and that's his first back to back ever, right, So
that's new for a young kid. So you factor in
when he's had a little bit of breather and what
you've seen, what we've seen from him, right, just say
the rookie. Yeah, now, let's just go further than that.
I mean, that's not even fair to say those two.

(03:59):
Let's look look good grimes of what we watched from
him early on big shots, right, being able to get
downhill which is so big, finished around the basket, which
is really good at and then big threes.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Right last night, monster three.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, and you just you knew it was going in
as soon as he caught it. You're like, that's that's good,
that's good. When did we ever say that before, right
when we felt that confident. So you in a while, yeah,
you factored those three guys and then what you've seen
from other from other little pieces here, right, of course,
I thought Kelly's played awesome.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I mean he's really underrated.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't think we give uh, you know, I don't
think we give him enough credit. I don't think we
can Kelly, you right, enough credit. He's averaging eighteen a game. Right,
So when you talk about those guys, and then Joell's
appoint a minute guy, right because he's he's twenty one
minutes right now, sixteen points, so he's essentially a point
a minute guy. And then then when you get back

(04:55):
Mcjared McCain, when you get back we Joe beat at
full strength, or you get back Pete, Paul George think
about that. Me and Great talk about the other night
that you've got seven guys that are double figure guys.
If that's not Eastern Conference contender, I don't know what is.

(05:17):
There's my und If that's not Eastern Conference contender. In
an East where I got to get through New York
and I got to get through Cleveland, I think they're there.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
There are your two big ones, right, now we'll see
how the rest shakes out.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right, there's a lot of time here to figure out
where this all shakes out.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
But coming into it.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
That's who you feel like your biggest your biggest get
throughs are, right guys.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So they're the two teams. Listen.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think when all these guys are back, I think,
right now we're just as good. We're just as good
as those teams the way we're playing. And I think
when they when we get the whole crew back together
here and they get to play with each other for
a little bit and we get to work out who
fits with who, what pieces of the puzzle fit. Absolutely absolutely.
I mean if you're not bought in, nothing will buy
you in. If you're not watching Joel Bead celebrating why

(06:01):
he's not in the game anymore because the minute restrictions,
if you're not watching the excitement that you're watching from
this bench, and you don't feel a different vibe and
you don't feel like that that whole everything we went
through is over and we actually got lucky, like we
talked about this offseason in the draft, where you can
have the best of both worlds. You can rebuild while winning,

(06:22):
and we just did it. We just did it. We
got the guard for the next ten years. Soaking in cats,
soak it in younger Pete, all right, enjoy yourselves. So
hell yeah, and not just this year, the year following,
the year after that, the year after that, because VZ
is gonna get bigger, he's gonna get stronger.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
And when that happens with the athleticism, I'm sure it's people.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
No time.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
You're absolutely right, and I mean it's got me watching, right,
and we know that that is in it itself, is
a huge thing. But like we talked about on Sunday,
they're exciting that we agree the poll. Even if you
just simplify it back to the last two games, right,
your first game without Joel Embiid the other night against Orlando, that's.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Usually a chuck full loss. I don't care that it's
at home.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
That game is a game that you lose every other
year the Joel Embiid era.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
And yet not only did they win, but they.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Pretty much dominated that entire game. They got dicey there
in the third quarter, right, third quarter still still seem
to be our bugaboo with this team, But in reality,
that game wasn't as close as even if that that
scor sat and then last night the way they came
back and the way they just they fought and they
called to get back in that game and then took

(07:38):
it over late. I mean, Joe, I think Joel jumped
higher being a cheerleader on the bench than he did
in any part of the game itself, no doubt, celebrated
with that win and celebrating especially Tyres. Uh so, yeah,
I absolutely agree. Uh these two kids are they're they're
fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
You can say three kids, can you make it? Well,
you say three whole.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
T two right? In reality, the whole teams want to watch.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
A lot of young kids. But the three guards. Yeah,
and the fourth one who's not here right now because
he's hurt. You know, he's probably painting his nails. But
the fourth and that's fine. I don't give a shit
what you dropped one of the game. I give to
give a rats ass go perform. But the four guards
are all twenty five and under. It's crazy. It's crazy.
Now we're all taking shot like you know, four four
games ago, right quick, you're.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Twenty five million, eleven million, eleven million.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Max.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now, I'm like, dude, that guy Max Bier yeah, not
We're not gonna go no.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Yeah, lets I agree to the poll too. I take
one of the things that Greg was talking about, right
is games that they would typically lose in the past,
And and I know we're only four games in, but listen,
throughout a season, an eighty two game season, you're gonna
have games like Washington where it may be a team
that you're supposed to be but it comes down to
the wire and to be able to overcome and be

(09:00):
able to pull that game out and the most encouraging thing.
And you guys know I've talked about this last year
in the season before was my concerns is Tyrese Maxi
that guy that we hope that he could be, because
up till this year, when Joel Embiid's not been in
the lineup, the team has struggled to go along with

(09:23):
his lead. But this year's been a totally different story.
And it seems like every game in the fourth quarter,
Tyrese Maxi just flips the switch. That's the kind of
stuff that elite players do. I mean, I think somebody
in our chat said it.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Last night.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
They went three minutes in overtime without scoring a point. Yeah,
and then again, switch turns on, they create turnovers. Bone
had himself a ballgame yesterday. I mean, they are, they're young,
they're exciting. It's fun to watch it. And that's the
thing too, It's not just the same old thing. It's
not the bringing in the James Hardens and this and

(09:59):
that an up tempo style that really typically can't do
with Joel and b it's playing thirty five to forty
minutes a night, and it really is giving you a
glimpse into a what could this team be with a
healthy Joel and be down the stretch with these guys
if they could see to play this level and be

(10:19):
beyond that point when the full process era is officially done,
what this next era is going to look like is
going to be very exciting at Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I mean you nailed it with the The key is
what does this team look like with a healthy Joel?
And be right, that's and we might never see that again,
but maybe we will. And I think that's why. Yeah,
I think that's why they're being smart with it, because
this is this is a long game.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
This is getting the starting pitcher through nine, right, This isn't.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Having to come out and throw ninety eight in the
first and not be able to finish the game right
so or finish the first.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
So it's a long game right now. We talked about
that Sunday too, Greg, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
This is this has got to be a long game
with him, and now he's more important down the stretch
than he is now. And you can run with him.
That's the funny thing with Joelle. You can run with him.
I mean, guys, run with guys, run with Steven Adams.
I mean I've watched he's run with Steven Adams, so
like you can run with anybody, which I think is
great because you can get up and down. He can
be a trail for the three, which he enjoys anyway.

(11:21):
So I mean get yeah, get up and down it.
And he's gonna get guys, He's gonna look better. I
know how he looks right now, but like, think about
a guy that looks like he looks right now, and
he's averaging essentially appoint minute besides the one game, he's
averaged sixty six about sixty and a half a game
at twenty one minutes, and he's not even close to

(11:42):
what he's gonna look like. You hope in April it's
a long time away, baby, So take it easy on
him because now you know you can win with him
playing twenty minutes giving you twenty points.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
That's fun.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's a good time to have, right, And now where
else you gonna get it from. So when Paul George
comes back and McCain comes back, Hey, Joe, I.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Need you for April.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
We've always known this was not important, and now we
have a team, like you guys have said too, that
can do it. We have a team that can win
in the regular season without you. It looks like not
without you totally. But will you twenty minutes a year,
know back to back, pick and choose spots, games of play,
keep your legs under.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
You will revy up, will rev you up with a
month ago?

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Well, I mean even adding in a guy like a
Dominic Barlow right, who's produced pretty well in the small
play that he's had early on every game, you have
four or five guys in double figures. That's what's encouraging.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And Drumm had been awesome. Grum Drummond been awesome. I
mean he be awesome. We have seven.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
Who knew that's the most That's the most real injury
I think in the process Era was when he was
bitching about his toe. I didn't even want to hear it.
I want to listen to it. That toe injury might
if the rail last season. Let's be real, if we're
going to point to anything, it's Andrew Drummond's toe.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
I mean, didn't he have seven rebounds and in the.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Fourth He is on another level right now. I can't believe,
but I mean.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
We saw that in his first sin he had that
one game where he had twenty one rebounds.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
I mean him and at den Bona's the best I
went from last Wednesday, I said, backup bigs, absolute problem.
Got to figure it out now with den Bona is
Rudy Gobert and Andre Drummond is prime Andre Drummond. We
are back like we are all the way back. And
I said it like I was talking. I was talking
with Ryan before the show. I'm like, yes, right now

(13:30):
we're contenders. Yes, but if somehow, I'm not predicting this
is gonna happen. But say we get to eight and no, somehow,
don't think it's gonna happen. Say we get to eight. Oh,
now we're in dangerous territory where we're finals. Are boss? Contenders.
We don't want to be there. We don't want to
be there. We all know how that is. We're absolutely contenders.
And what's awesome about Tyrese Maxi He is now obviously

(13:52):
statistically in an elite scoring category, but forget the stats,
it just looks that way. Look at all these guys
who are elite scores in the NBA. It's like, Okay,
how consistently are you scoring? Does it look easy to you?
Like when you step back and watch it on the television,

(14:13):
Sometimes it just looks so easy for those guys. And
then the last thing is, are you like a gotta
have a guy not necessarily saying tie game, fourth quarter,
give me the game when he shot more so than
it is, Hey, they're on a seven to zero run.
I want to keep my time out, get us a bucket.
And that's how they keep coming back in these games.

(14:34):
So he is like, I obviously thirty seven points will
say that automatically, but just eye test, it just looks different.
It really really does. He just has control over the
whole the whole game. It's amazing, it really is. It's crazy.
And I was like, I see online the hard in

(14:55):
comparisons footwork I see it, no doubt about It finds
me more so of Damian Lillard to where like he's
crossing half court, he puts so much pressure on the
top defender to guard him thirty five feet out that
he needs to guard him there. And he's so fast

(15:15):
and he's so creative he can get to the line.
Like that's where you combine all these different assets and
skill sets he has and it just gets scary. And
what he can do.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
He's James Harden.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
He's developed James Harden's footwork from being around James Harden, obviously,
because the kid's a sponge. But bigger than that, he's
Allen Iverson's speed.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Like that's what he is. He's eight AI speed.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
So to your point, Luke, he's developed such a great
three point game in mid range game.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Right. We saw a mid range jumper like a fadeaway
over a guy way bigger than him the other night.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, and you're like he got that off, dude, and
he like, that's a tough shot, but it looked easy, right,
He had a little step back to it looked easy
for him. But he's got AI speed. But he's got
the three point game, right, Not that Allen didn't. But
that's why you're talking about so much pressure, because it's like,
that's why you can get to the bass game.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
He gets to the basket at will almost.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
And he does such a good job of learning how
teams try to defend him without embeat on the court,
and he's grown off of that.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
It's something he really wanted to educate himself last year
and learn.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
And I think he just continues, you're just watching when
you have the talent and you and you really want it, right,
it's a great message any kid out there and you
really want it, and you really want to learn, and
you really want to get better, you just don't want
to talk about it. Look at Tyrese Maxi because there's
not a better example of a guy every year that
does something new and something better. Something better is in

(16:44):
his game year in, year out. And that's why if
you don't believe in the pole question, it's sort of
crazy to me. But god, right, yeah, no, I assume
you were great.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I assume you were.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
Oh yeah, I said we need to bump it to finals.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
Content No, like this, this is where we're at, right.
Just to add on more on the Maxie thing. The
second he gets across half court, like he could score right,
he could pull up from he could pull up from
mid court. He can get past you. He gets to
the bucket, he could lay it up underneath that that
reverse layup he had last night in overtime to get

(17:21):
our first bucket. I have no idea how that happened.
I have no idea how he scored that. He's got
the floater game, which is delicious. He's got the mid
range like step back jumpers. He's got your you know,
step back threes. He's even been back putting off a
dwell and b passes. Like everything that Maxi has done
so far this season has been absurd. Right, Obviously, the

(17:43):
dude's an All Star. He's been an All Star his
second year of the league. Right, And you could say
he's taken a bit of a step back. And obviously,
you know, last year he was hurt, so people were
giving him some shit. Maybe necessarily he may have been
able to come back, maybe not of you know, but
like he has come out with such a fire to

(18:03):
start this season, Like he's he's running past everybody. He's
making you know, everything he's done is worked, and like,
dude is just you gotta cover him for ninety four feet.
You gotta cover him four to four because he'll be
up and down, you know, helping down that court all
night long. Like he's the guy who's getting the ball

(18:24):
at in those like last thirty seconds, right, like like
you they're gonna fail you, and you're gonna win the
free throw line. It's maxy. He's gone to the line, right,
I think he. I think he had like twenty free
throws last night. I think he went like nineteen of
twenty or something like that. Dude's missed maybe two free
throws all season. Dude's been nuts, right, Like it's it's insane.

(18:46):
And then you know you throw in a twenty year
old kid in VJ. Edgecombe who's getting Anthony Edwards like comparisons.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Like.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
It's it's it's insane. Like, yes, VJ didn't play great
last night, like he I think he was four for twelve,
but those four shots were three pointers. Was like we
didn't really know if he had that coming in, right,
We saw it a little bit. We saw it a
little bit, but like we weren't sure if he was
gonna just be you know that athlete is gonna go in,
you know, like pull up jumpers inside close or just

(19:20):
dunking over you like he did in that first game
against Boston. Like it's it's so cool to see because
I think he even did like a step back. I
assume he pick picked that up off of Maxi, right,
So hopefully like he's doing that same type of thing
that Maxi did with Hardon, and Maxie's teaching him that
same type of footwork, right, because if you can get

(19:41):
two guys that, assuming they're not always going to play together, right,
and then you filter in and Jared McCain you filter in.
You know, Quentin Grimes, you filter in. I don't know
somebody else we might find. I'm sure Kyle lowryoll get
minutes at some point, maybe in like April, who knows.
But like you have four young guards right there. They're

(20:01):
gonna run, run, run, run, run, run run. They can
all give you twenty a night or twenty plus at night.
They can all shoot it from wherever. And then you
know that takes the pressure off of Joel. He doesn't
have to play thirty thirty five minutes a night. You know,
Paul George, whenever he comes back, he doesn't have to
play thirty minutes a night. Right, you can ease these
guys back in because you can just let the kids go.
Like Bona's been really good? Who else has been playing?

(20:25):
Man like that, everybody's just been so good, right, Like
you've seen a little bit of like Barlow has been
solid Everrett Gordon shot well the other night, like.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
He came maybe just fired, Like it was just it's insane.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
Like I got out of work late last night and
I got in the car, I think it was I
think it was one ten ninety four. I'm like, oh,
like they're still in this game. So I turned I
had on the radio and I got home like it
was just about to go to overtime. I'm like, they're
gonna win this game. Whereas last year. You know, obviously
the situation is completely different. I'm not even attempting to

(21:01):
look at the game. I'm not turning the radio on nothing.
I'm like, all right, cool, we'll see tomorrow night maybe.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Right.

Speaker 8 (21:07):
It's it's just such a different vibe in the last
even like even like a couple of weeks, right, because
we talked over the offseason about yeah they can be
a solid team, Yeah they'll make the playoffs. They might
be like a six seed. You know, they'll make it.
They might make some noise, but like the way that
they're playing now, and these kids, like they're playing so good.

(21:29):
Like I didn't expect VJ to be playing this well
this early, because I think he's averaging like twenty one,
twenty two points and then like five and five. Yeah,
so like yeah, so like he's much more than I
thought right now. Obviously, McCain being hurt gives him that
those minutes right away that he may not have had.
So I'm really happy in a way that McCain's not

(21:50):
playing right now. So then it doesn't give Nick Nurse
to be like, oh, hey, let's let's get Kyle Leverson
minutes Like no, let's let the kids play.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah they don't.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
The only negative is you have two guys over for
you know, you have one guy playing like forty three
minutes a game in Tyres Maxie on average, and VJ
is playing over forty. So that if there's a negative,
it's that that's why you need some of these guys
back to give these guys a little bit of a
breather here and there. But the really crazy thing about
this everything we've talked about so far and why you say, well,

(22:21):
how like, how do you have them going to Eastern
Conference Final?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
How do you believe that?

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Well?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
In the in the fourth quarter last night, Tyres Max
had fourteen points, Okay, Quentin Grind's at twelve, but Tys
had fourteen.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
He was a plus sixteen, so was Grimes and ot
it's an ND score.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
For three minutes he had nine points, he had nine points.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
Gotta have it, gotta have it, got gotta have it.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
You need to know if they're a contender, everything you need,
because that ain't mean that. Ain't that ain't the homer
down eight one, up eight one. You understand that's not
the meaningless homer and nothing. It's never meaning you gotta
hit it right. But it's not the homern that we
used to joke about with Reese back in the day. Uh,
little stat patter there, Yeah, you know, down down, down

(23:09):
nine to two, Well nine ninety three now cool, they've
got the twenty right at the thirty.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like, it's not that it's not hollow numbers. Donovan Mitchell
means a hollow guy, right, These guys out.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
There right that I think are hollow numbers. Right, Tyree's
Mex the opposite of hollow numbers. Like you said, gotta
have a guy. That's who he is, and that's what
stars are, and that's the wins in this man. And
where did all the and the calls are starting to come,
they're starting to come.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Where do they really come?

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Where are they really Yeah, they're they're not coming enough
at all. Especially it's not even he gets the callers.
I feel like away from the basket, he doesn't get
him at all. They don't reward him at all going
to the basket. That's the NBA's biggest problem. If you
talk like product, that's the easiest thing you can do
to fix your product is reward people for going to

(24:01):
the basket. That's what no one likes watching this fadeaway crap.
And this is coming from like a six Ers fan
who's watched you well and bid forever. I understand it.
So if you don't want to watch that, you have
to reward them for going to the basket. No one
else is going to do it. Then he's getting mulled
at the basket and you're not gonna call it.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I'll take it all even a
step further and touched on it earlier, but kind of
going deeper into it, they've had four games. In three
of those four games they've had five guys in double figures.
The other one they had four guys in double figures.
And this is the time of year where you want
to find out how much depth you have guys who

(24:42):
could come in and give meaningful minutes, and at this
point everybody seems to be coming in and giving meaningful minutes.
And then on the flip side, it's we've had an
issue for years on a closer and this is the
time of year we need to learn who are the
guys that crunch time that are going to be able
to step up and hit a shot because we haven't
had one.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Sin's Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
And seeing Tyree's now stepping up and then adding Grimes
is a guy who seems like the moment doesn't get
too big for him. You know, when you need a
guy to step out space to four out and get
somebody an open shot. You're starting to find out that
it doesn't have to be on Joel Embiid's shoulders. That
last two or three minutes of the game. You have guys,
and I think that's that's such a key that every

(25:25):
winning team has guys that can close, and it seems
like there's a possibility there could be quite a few
on this team.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well look at this right, So if you start, just
fourth quarter Boston and we'll go we'll go from there.
Right fourth quarter Boston, Tyris Maxi fifteen points, BJ had
nine and Quentin Grimes had seven.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
So there's like your your fourth quarter numbers.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Okay, you go to Charlotte, similar, similar conversation with Tyris
Maxy twelve Okay, Uber had nine in that one.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
He was he was your next highest quorter.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Okay, So another another double digit fourth go to land Out.
This started becomes a trend. Dear boys, those just look up.
You go to a land out fourth quarter, Tari's Maxi
twelve points, okay, nobody else in double figures in the
fourth Tarr's Maxi was and you go to the you
go to the final one, like we just talked about,
fourteen in the fourth and then nine and o tight.

(26:19):
So there's the closer conversation. There's what stuff we've been missing?
You talk about great baseball teams, you don't got a closer.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
You need it.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's the hard as house to get. And those those
seven minutes are the hardest part of the.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Game, no doubt. You know, remember that Charlotte game they went,
they went boxing won and literally tried to take him
out of the game, but he just found such a
rhythm and getting the ball and getting to the foul
line that it didn't matter. Like I'm telling you, like,
that's what matters. That's what takes you from twenty five
a game to twenty nine a game, and in his
case it's from like thirty one to thirty seven and

(26:54):
a half, like crazy numbers. He's doing ridiculous stuff. And
last year there was a moment where he called Joel
out in the locker room, and in the heat of
the moment, everyone his fans, including myself, were like, whoever
leaked this, Eric Cordon, whoever leaked this is an asshole,
and we don't like whatever, and a d one aph

(27:14):
should over it rightfully. So and now, really looking back,
the big story should have been that was the moment.
It's not this year that was the moment, because now
you look in the pregame huddle, he's the one talking
to the team, breaking the team down. He's the one
that seems like every time he gets to the folon
he turns around him and talks to the entire team,
telling them to lock in. He's the soul, he's the guy,

(27:37):
he's the centerpiece. It happened then.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
The franchise, right yeah now, and Joelle called him that,
so let me let me just make people some guys aren't.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Bid not have called him it, but he didn't mean
it until then.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Maybe he didn't mean it right because I want to
I want to, I want to say I want to
say that I think this is important. I think this
is a sign of growth and maturity from Joel and
Ban as well. Okay, because some guys aren't the vocal either,
huddle guys, some guys don't operate that. Some guys aren't
gonna outwork you. They're just great. Some guys are just great.

(28:08):
He's just great. Okay, that's That's what Joel is, and
that's fine. There's the reason we haven't got over it
because we only had like a true leader for like
a minute, and that was Jimmy, So we never had
it to that point. So to watch him grow into
that and to watch watch a guy who paid a
lot of money here too for a while allow it
to happen is even bigger it's even bigger.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's literally even bigger, and it's not talked about.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Nobody on the dis going to talk about it. Nobody
anywhere's gonna talk about it. That's the key to the
whole thing. If there is tension there and that doesn't
work and he doesn't allow the franchise to come into
the process.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Right, if he doesn't allow that to happen, we're not
born up. And maybe it's having conversation and maybe.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
It's a sign of Joel's maturation as well to kind
of realize where he's at at this point and realize
that for this team to go forward, there needs to
be another voice in the room, maybe a bigger voice
than his at this point, and he kind of just
has to sit in the passenger seat for a while
and that MAXI do what he needs to do and
step in, step in and be the leader of this team.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
How many times you see what guys in sports all
around where they get those certain point in their career and.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
They have the accolades, they had the accolades. He's the
gold jacket guy.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
He'll he's going in the NBA Hall of Fame, right that,
Like you can write that down somewhere, O Gauy, that's
gonna happen. But he doesn't have the other stuff that
these guys crave, the competitors crave it.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
We might not think it right, but he craves it.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
He wants to feel what that feels like, like naturally,
like you would want that.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
But it's that. But it's also, like I've been saying
this for years, he doesn't get enough credit for it. It's
not only that he really wants to win. He really
wants to win here. Yeah, do you understand how many
times he could have asked out over the year in
a league where guys get Guys ask out over the
dumbest stuff all the time across the NBA, he has
stuck with us. Let's just let that sink in for

(30:05):
a long time. So, like, he wants to win here,
and I don't think people will talk about that. Yeah,
no one talks about that.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
No one does.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Nobody gives them credit for not being a diva and
what now, nobody talks about that stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
And I think that's it.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Listen, we don't have to do the Joel Embe thing
right now. To keep it short, he wasn't supposed to
be the guy that's the MVP carrying you to titles
because he was he was a piece that you were
lucky to get around a million other picks where you
knew he wasn't playing for two years it was supposed
to be other guys. Casks were put onto him that
he was not ready for. He's opened up and talked
about it. He doesn't deserve nearly as much blame as

(30:43):
the organization does. We'll leave it there, but let's.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Well boat that.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
We'll boat by that, and we'll say the guy who
was supposed to do it war number two five in
the city, and that never came to happen. But again,
sometimes it's better to be lucky than good, right, And
we got lucky with COVID because Tyrese Maxey fell right.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
He'll with cod.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
COVID saved the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
They didn't save a lot of people, but it saved us, okay.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
And and from that point on, I think then you
go get McCain and and then you get lucky again
with a three pick lucky again because now you don't
you can take who you really feel like is is
the best there, Like you don't have to reach for anything.
You don't have to take what the media, like we
talk about, might force you to take.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You don't do any of that.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
And that's the guy they targeted and won it, right
they and they they loved them. They obviously flew him
in here with MAXI, right, we knew all those reports,
so they loved them.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
McK nurse said it like this is who I thought
he was gonna be, right and.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Whatever, long story show, we got lucky again, And here
we are, and we're lucky. Joel em Bead's walking and
playing right now. From reports in the summer that people
were saying he might never walk again.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's hand of life.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
So you know the fact that he's even playing twenty
minutes a game's remarkable at this point of the year.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
And like again.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
We could go and the whole Joel deserves better thing,
because he does.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
But maybe his loyalty pays off.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Maybe in sports when there's no loyalty real it anymore,
and it goes from travel sports all the way up
into the Big Lakes, right, there's no there's the loyalty
isn't a thing anymore, right, And when there's when when
you get a guy who is loyal to your organization,
he deserves better, and maybe the gods are giving it
to him.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
He absolutely deserves it. And if you're giving him crap
right now for being carried, wake up, because there has
been so much drama and bullshit that has gone on
over the last decade plus and he's the only thing
left standing, the only thing things of came and gone.
He's the only thing that's still here. So even if
he's got black and blues all over his body or

(32:51):
whatever the hell he's got, it doesn't matter. I don't
care if he gets one. He deserves it one thousand percent,
whether it's it's not going to be this year, even
if it's six years down the line and he's on
the end of that contract, whatever it is, he deserves it.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (33:05):
I want to kind of I want to kind of
compare Joe to a guy who's actually playing tonight out
in LA I want to compare Joel to Freddie Freeman,
like Freddie Freeman was with the Braves forever, right forever,
like franchise Cornerstone is gonna be a Hall of Fame,
are gonna go in as a Brave right one. I

(33:26):
don't know if he won an MVP when he was
there possibly, but like he finally won a World Series
there and then the year after that he was gone. Right,
Like it's just it's just how it is sometimes. So hopefully,
you know, with these younger cats who can take a
little bit off of them, you know, be you know
Maxi's or Ronald McCune junior. Take something off from this

(33:47):
guy and just have somebody else go out there. You know,
even though you're the you can be like the the
face of the franchise or the guy that's been there forever.
Go be you know, the second guy. Don't have to
be the guy that you know, puts everything on your
shoulders anymore, right, share that load a little bit, right.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Well if yeah, but if you watch he was watch it,
he's it. He's a guy who's watched the sport forever.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
He talks about watching older versions of players.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So when you watch the sport forever, you've always and
he said this, like this has come out and pressers
and said this that like he can't do it by himself, right,
and you need you need another star, like a real
star to do it right. And and it's got to
be a Batman Robin or two. Batman's right, and it
has to be that, and I think he knows that,

(34:39):
and by knowing that, it allows this happens. I reason
guy he likes. It's not like they don't like each other.
There's never been any of that of them not liking
each other or any beef. Besides, he didn't want he
wants him to be on time for stuff. Okay, good,
I want him on time too, So I like that
you're gonna hold him accountable. And you haven't heard anything
since it, right, you haven't heard anything about Joelle being Joe.

(35:00):
I'm not doing this, but you know none of that stuff.
So this is this is awesome, Like, this is awesome
that we're we're even having this conversation four games and
that we feel this good about this team, right, and
it can only go up from here. You're talking about
Clippers picks down the road that are gonna be great. Right,
There's so much stuff, and we've drafted well late obviously

(35:21):
we talk about there's a bunch of guys on this roster.
Draft later from Maxie McCain, Bona and and uh broom
or boom wherever the hell is now? Yeah, broom, right,
the guys that are on this roster that were drafted later.
I mean, so they're doing a good job with that stuff,
and we know their player development here.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
This is exciting times always ship I think too, you know.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Adding on to that, like Joel and beat himself as
said that Tyrese Maxie is the best team that he's had.
He's on record of saying that, So he's not just
gonna go out there to put that show on. Because
Joel speaks very candidly quite often. He was not happy
about Jimmy Butler not being here, So there's a number
of occasions where you can really go over that. But
I think too, And you know, I've had I had

(36:07):
a conversation with somebody last week where they were just
talking about, like, you know, how come the Sixers always
bring in guys too late? And like the thing with
the NBA is, you know, they get pretty lengthy contracts
coming out of the gate, and most of them sign
their rookie extensions if their lead player. So the reality
is the majority of players by the time they're really

(36:30):
a free agent anyway, they were already hitting thirty thirty one,
thirty two where they move on from teams anyway, So
it is kind of a crapshoot where you're taking chances
on guys like, you know, a thirty four year old
Paul George or James Harden or you know whatever it is.
That's just kind of what it's been all along. They
needed to hit another home run like they did with
Joelle in the draft, and it took a while. But

(36:52):
now getting Maxie in here and then the lucky like
you said, Tom, the luck of the of the of
the basketball guys being on our shoulders to bring dj
Edgecomb Edgecomb here is this is what you needed. Now
even beyond Joelle, you have two guys who their contracts
run or their ages are similar. They're gonna run this

(37:15):
organization for years to come where you're not gonna have
to worry about going out getting multiple stars. Now you're
just constantly now putting the depth and putting the pieces
around them.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
That's it, is it?

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Not Chase, We're not start chasing anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
M No, which is nice.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
No, you got your you got your stars.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
You can do it the right way, right, and I
think they're they're doing it the right This is, like
I said, this is just a great situation that they're in. Uh,
And they got guys coming back man, Listen, it ain't easy.
Like I feel like we're the Warriors right now like
back in the day, Like there's one ball to go around,

(37:56):
you know what I mean, Like I don't know he's
got doing get these shots like there's one ball.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, Like it's it feels like.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
A little of that because you literally have seven guys
that are gonna be double figure guys. I said, the
most underrated guy on the field I've been seventy six
ers right now is Kelly you Bright, Like he doesn't
get talked about it though. I mean, you're talking about
guy who's fifty one percent from the field. He's fifty
one percent from the field. That's that's that's ridiculous. So

(38:22):
you're talking about MAXI, PJ, Kelly, Q Joelle. There's five, right,
and then pg A kame seven guys.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
And then you got a Barlow who's giving you great minutes.
You got a Jakobe Walker's giving you great minutes. You
got all these other guys giving you great Like there
are gonna be guys who are twenty two and twenty
three years old. They're not just thirty nine like Eric
Gordon who might be able to do something on unda court.
They're twenty two and twenty three years old when fully healthy,
if that ever happens, they're not seeing the court, which

(38:58):
is insane, like to think about. That has never happened
in any year of this era. This has not happened.
And that's a good thing because look at Oklahoma City
because you're going to get injuries. You might even get
him in the playoffs to that seventh, eighth, ninth guy,
and then you see him this year, it's like, who
the hell is Mitchell. He's coming on the court and

(39:20):
dropping twenty five.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
People are gonna say who the Yeah Gordon at that point, like.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Yeah, like who's this guy? Who's that?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I don't know that saying this year I thought he retired.
People gonna say I thought he retired.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
No, people are like, oh, I forgot, Kelly, you bray,
that's what right now, Kelly Uber, Oh my god, I forgot.
He's on the six ers.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
I'll tell you what the thing too. And I don't
think it's it's he's given anywhere near enough credit. I
know we do typically on this show, but you know
everybody wants to point that James Harden and say I
mean and and part of it is his own doing that.
That's Darryl Moorey's legacy everywhere is it's tied to James Harden. However,

(40:04):
I think if you look big picture of things, what
that did was get them out of an impossible situation
by being able to get rid of Ben Simmons at
that point, who we've seen exactly. Whatever you got out
of James Harden, it was a thousand times more worth
what Ben Simmons was providing after that fact. But it's

(40:24):
those moves, the Kelly Oubreys, the Quentin Grimes, and these
types of guys that he has brought in, even betom
when he was here for that one year, these guys
that have come in and really have been true contributing
role players. Not everyone's been a home run, but a
lot of them have. And again, Kelly Rubray since he's
been here, has been a contributor, like a high level

(40:45):
contributor to this team. They just needed to have more
around and I think you have to give Daryl Morty
credit for that. Not only is he drafting extremely well,
but he really has done a good job in finding
good role players that this team can work with going forward.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I mean, Grimes was a steal.

Speaker 7 (41:02):
And absolutely steal steal. I mean, how dumb are the
Mavericks to be like, yeah, we'll trade a twenty five
year old for an older guy because now we're going
to tank so we can get the first pick. Huh,
But that doesn't make any sense. So well, they'll tell you.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
It was worth they'll tell you it was worth it
to get Cooper Flag.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
But right, yeah, okay, because we yeah, we did a
great job tanking with Quentin Grimes, so we did vote,
so screw off. Yeah, DJ is.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
Currently leading the Rookie of the Year vote voting and
that we're four games in, but he is. He's overtaken
Cooper Flag by yay much as the favorite.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
He's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
I mean not for nothing. You know, I'm not counting
on it necessarily happening. I hope that it does. He's
talent enough to do it, but man, that would just
be the icing.

Speaker 8 (41:52):
And he's so funny if he If.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
He beats out Cooper Flag and you got Quentin Grimes
from that team and you end up like, yeah, oh.

Speaker 8 (42:00):
My god, hilarious.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Sad thing though, is they fumbled the Clinton Grimes scenario
over the all season though.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
You almost made it totally possible.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
For so and it's better do whatever you want to
do this year with Quinton Grimes because he's gonna be
gone next year.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Right.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
It's not the twenty five million thing. It's the it's
the lack of urgency that they felt to get a
deal done because they were scared of the luxury tax,
when now I feel like they look at him as
a player that's well worth getting in to the luxury tax.
And because of the luxury tax, the contract they offered him,
I'm sure. I mean, he declined it for a reason,

(42:38):
but it was a joke.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
So hold on real quick about that. That's okay.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I mean I don't know NBA roles as much as
like when it comes to signing guys, et cetera, like
other sports, because they're just more basic other sports. But
in terms of that, it's like, is it not something
that can't get done in season? Is it like once
you have a guy, Like I always feel like when
you have a guy in your locker room, it's easier
to keep a guy. Now, you know, it doesn't mean
you get them for cheaper, it's just easier to keep

(43:04):
them when somebody's here. They like to be here, right,
it's a place that you know, it's a place that
traded for him.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
It's a place.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I always think about that too. When you trade for
a guy, you show them that you value them by
trading for that naturally. Okay, so when you trade for
a guy, he feels valued. Now you can feel a
little slighted in a contract, but at the end of
the day, his body at work was small. So then
every right, the low ball first offer, that's that's what
you should do.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
Like, there is the timing of the offer. They offered
it to him right at the deadline, giving him almost
no room to negotiate anything like that was the problem.
They're like, oh yeah, and here's your offer.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
They can't negotiate anything in season.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
No, he can't negot because he was a quality like
he put the qualifying offer on him. So they were
waiting for teams to then go and pay him a
ton of money. Maybe they would match it. But now
in today's NBA, no one has money. So as long

(44:09):
as there's not another team saving up a ton of
money and willing to pay him a ton of money,
I think by the end of next summer it should
work itself out. Yeah, there can't. Okay, But but that's
a big if. Like what if a team like Brooklyn's, like,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Twenty million and he's not good enough for it?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Like there's other factors, Like in their defense, I get listen, guy,
I get it.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
But in their defense the body of work, like is
it gigantic here?

Speaker 7 (44:36):
No, it's not. But this is where Paul George kills
you because he's he's getting the luxury tax kills you.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Right.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
But I think that the other factor in this too
is the whole NBA structure is different now.

Speaker 7 (44:50):
Yeah, so I don't think.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
You have to worry as much about a guy going
out and get a max deal because the league's not
structured to allow three max guys on teams anymore. Right,
So A it's more beneficial to him to stay here
because they can pay him more money. And I think too, listen,
winning tends to heal a lot of wounds. And let's
offer I mean Tyrese MAXI they waited to extend too,

(45:15):
so they could get under the luxury a tack. So
it's not like something this organization hasn't done before. And
I don't think the NBA allowed I think I think
it's not impossible. But I don't think that the NBA
is set up now for the Tobias harris Is of
the world to just go out and get a max
deal unless you're a Detroit who literally needs to hit

(45:36):
you know, the basement number, and it's just giving out
extra money in order to hit the minimum. And if
that's the case, then winning is not a priority to him,
and then that's.

Speaker 7 (45:47):
You know, well, he's he's clearly, he's clearly happy right now.
It's that's just that's obvious. He's happy to be here
right now. I'm not saying that. I just think that
what they.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Did to be making this year, how much is he
making this year?

Speaker 7 (46:00):
Like seven eight million?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, I'm sure he's happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I mean, I'm sure when you're clearing, when you're clearing,
when you're clearing for that, I'm sure you're.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Good for this.

Speaker 7 (46:09):
I mean, this guy's this guy is a first round pick.
This guy's been NBA ready. He played high level college basketball.
He's been a very good quality player for a long time.
It's just took him a little bit to get acclimated
into the NBA. But he's been great. And Kelly U

(46:39):
bray By the way deserve shine.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
Yeah, people have been given Kelly shit since he got here.
I love Kelly Bray dude, dude always plays hard with Kelly.

Speaker 7 (46:50):
Is that he can't go, he can't be Charlotte hornets
Kelly where we saw last year, where he's on a
team by himself, You're not allowed to judge Kelly right
when he's on a team by himself. I think we've
all learned that when he plays with great players or
even good players. Even the first year he was here,
when it was like embiid and a bunch of like

(47:10):
good role players Max C at the time, Melton, like
it was just it seemed good with Pa Tom. He
shined in that system too, Like they were good players
he was surrounded by. So if you surround him by
good talent, he's athletic enough and he can score enough
to where like he'll just find ways to impact the game,
like he'll.

Speaker 8 (47:31):
Yeah, no, it's awesome. He's the third or fourth best
player on the floor.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
You're yeah, he's great. Yeah, he especially off your bench.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
He's what Andreadala should have been. There was so much
expectation put on Andrea Goadala, and the whole thing is
you knew that this guy, if he got to a
winning organization that had pieces in place, and you say
I need a defensive specialist who can score the bucket
fourteen points a night, ten point twelve points in give

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me double figures, you knew that he was gonna be
a guy who was going to be a championship caliber player.
I feel like, Kelly, you right to a little bit
of a lesser degree. Is it that type of player though,
to where you know, to your point, Luke right like,
he's not he's not Batman, he may not even be,
but he might be. Commissioner Gordon.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
Those you need, those, you need those. We lost the
playoff series a few years ago because of it, New York.
I mean we that is why we lost that series.
The stars showed up and no one else did, right.

Speaker 8 (48:34):
Damian Wayne red Hood still in there, one of the Batman.
He's there.

Speaker 7 (48:40):
I see, mister James, I see you, and you're in
the back of my head. I I see where you're
coming from. I'm having a hard time refuting it. Although
they are scoring a ship down a points. We we've
definitely acknowledged that. But when it comes down to all right,
now we're in the postseason. Now we're in the playoffs
and maybe we win a playoff series. Now you're in
the semi final, Like, you can't be giving up one

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hundred and twenty two points a game. Maybe that gets better.
It's only game four. Maybe they make a deal by
the end of that. Kind of hard to judge that
far in advance, but I hear where you're coming from.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I don't but one thing that's cool, Greg, Greg, go ahead, No,
I'm gon.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
Say one thing that they're not doing those they're not
turning the basketball over like they've done in the past.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yes, yeah, you know, and that's that's.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
That allows you to have a little bit of a
difference in in offense or even defensive because you're not
giving up live ball turnovers. You're not giving up three
points as often as you've done in the past.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
So I think that's a huge thing.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
Through four games, is there is there inability to turn
a ball over right now? It's it's it's really shocking
to see.

Speaker 8 (49:45):
Yeah, I mean you're you're you're leading the league right
now in turnovers and blocks, right So, yeah, you're giving
up a ton of points. You're giving up a ton
of easy points like honestly because of you know, and
be not being able to move as much. And Paul
George again, even if he's older, he's really good defender,
or he has been his career. So you don't have
two of your better defenders, but you know you're able

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to run up and down the floor and score a
little bit. But yeah, I think that I'll end up
getting sell better.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
So yeah, I think fools gold in that Land's comment.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I think that when you just want to look at
when you just want to come on here and you
want to look at goddamn two categories, and two categories
are going to decide that that's fool's goal to you
and to what I consider STEMI overrated goddamn categories two. Okay,
when you're talking about points per game, how many of
these scoring?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Babe?

Speaker 1 (50:31):
If you score more than other team, you win. So
that's a semi semi overrated. Okay, I'm gonna tell you
what else is overrated. When you want to talk to
me about rebounding, this seems ninth in the NBA in
offensive rebounding.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
So when you come in here, make sure you're coming
in here.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Factual begging, Okay, because that to me is more important
than you getting out rebounded overall. If you're out reading
the out rebounding people on the offensive side of the
game of the boards, that's huge second chance opportunities win games. Simple,
it's born up. So yes, would you like to get
not get out rebounded as much yet? But I think

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once you started giving Andre some more minutes, right, and
I think more Joelle gets going, right, I think your
rebounding is going to naturally get better. So they sit
on the rebounds in points per game when when you're
outscoring everybody and you're and you're living on the glass offensively,

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two of the most important parts of basketball, James, mister James,
when you're there's no other parts, Like you're just talking
about points per game, but you're not talking about how
many they score, and you're just talking about overall rebounding,
which I agree with that, I agree how important rebounding is,
but also timely.

Speaker 7 (51:45):
Rebounding and timely stops.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
And time we stops, which we've watched.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
So yeah, again, watch the whole game then, right, and
then give me what you watch at the end, because
the last eight minutes, mister James, is matter.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
So please come back an here. I need it. I'm
not being might be Meandy, I need it come.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Back game with those fourth quarter numbers of of what
you just came back with.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, because they're gonna get you. They're gonna get your
rock card, mister James. Yeah, last night, I don't last night.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (52:18):
Last night, between the fourth quarter and overtime, you outscored
Washington forty five to twenty four. That's cute, right, and
then let's go back to Charlotte. Let's go back to
the Magic game. Let's look there.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
That was.

Speaker 8 (52:36):
You outscored them thirty five to thirty in the fourth quarter. Right,
then Hornets game thirty nine five in the fourth quarter
and Boston forty two thirty in the fourth quarter. So
there you go. You've won every fourth quarter by at

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least five points three or the four of adult digits.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Pretty sure we got out rebounding some people too.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I mean my gut says like you had to, right,
and again, the second half opportunity is where we've gotten our.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Ass kicked in years past.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Like we are.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah, we've been in dinny parties. We've been in didty
parties in the fourth court. Right when it comes offensive
rebounding or just rebounding period, right. We watched it in
the playoffs, we watched we watched the next guys. We
West guys that felt like there were five eight jump yeah,
jumping over the backboard, Like did he put up?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
He took a dollar off? Put off four quarters? I mean,
like that does happen?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
And we were watching it, so like to me, I
feel like we're sort of doing that a little bit.
We're sort of getting those second gence opportunities in the
fourth quarter that are creating extra chance shot, extra chance
opportunities for us.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
We watched it, like, I mean, I get it.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
It's a body of work and getting out rebounding it
is not a good time. So that's one thing that
I can't disagree with. But I really believe that in
crunch time we're doing those things better than the other
teams and if we're not going wrong.

Speaker 8 (54:03):
But no, you're I think you're right. I already vividly
remember I talked about last week the VJ Edge comb
going up and getting an offensive board and then getting
a you know, getting a jump ball and then Maxie
missing a layup. Last night Afrigat it was in the
fourth quarter overtime where Bona comes up gets the follow up, right,

(54:23):
and then we take the lead off that. So they're
timely offensive rebounds. It's not just empty minutes, whether we're
down fifteen, right, they're timely ones, you know when you
have to add the little ex shit, no.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
You nailed it. It seems like this is.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
This is the same conversation Tom. We had this conversation
a lot with Mitch Williams back when we used to
do the here's the thing show rebounds Everything that you
guys are talking about in the equivalent of baseball. It's
the old argument of batting average, home runs and RBIs
are the be all end.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
All of everything.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
Right, But to what Ryan was just saying too, to
add that in now, it's look at on base percentage
hitting with runners in scoring position, right, that's look at
situational hitting. Now, have they hit at certain points in
the game with whatever the deficit is or tie runs, Like,
there's so much more advanced to the numbers than surface

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level of total numbers. And what that argument is, Yes,
there are things that they could work on defensively, but
when the game is at its most crucial points, and
to your point, especially when you talk about the offensive
rebounding that's a very important stat. Defensive rebounds are going
to happen. It happens a lot, there's a ton of

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them in a game. But how many times can you
get up on the glass and get your team's second
chances to score. That's such a pivotal point in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (55:49):
And turnovers are really the big difference in the NBA.
And by the way, I mean, I don't know what
the final numbers were, but I know looking at the
halftime against Orlando, it was nine to one in turnovers
at the half. And that's a good team. That's a
good damn team there in Orlando, and they were absolutely
not playing them and taking care of the basketball in

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that game.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
No, you're right, You're right, And Creig I said it too.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
I mean, not not turning the basketball over is the
biggest stat you can look at, right, because that's where
you're gonna that's the that's where you're gonna win and
lose games. I mean, if you're right, if you're having
an eighteen twenty turnovers a game, I mean, good luck, babe,
good luck, because you're gonna in today's NBA, like that's
saying you.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Ain't winning games ninety eighty five. Anymore, right, you got
You've got to outscore people. It's an up and down league.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
It's a guard driven league. We've watched the league slowly changed, right,
and bigs are important, don't get me wrong. The right
types of big stretch stretch fives and guys are can
do a little bit of both, right, are more valuable
in today's NBA.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
But guards win. We just watched it.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
We just watched SGA win and he had guards around
him that could create, that can get to the basket
because that right, and can stroke the three, and that's
what this league is. And sixers. Luckily, you have four
guards that can score in double figures. And if you
want to call Paul Georgia guard too and then make

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a five, but he's kind of them as a small forward,
I guess right, But either way it's another guy. So
this is like in three guard lineups are are going
to get out rebounded.

Speaker 7 (57:32):
Right, there's something you just embrace about your basketball team.
Like we we said it after Wednesday that we're probably
going to be a bottom ten defensive team in the NBA,
but we're going to outscore people, like that's that's what
we're gonna do. That's where the Thunder a kind of
different and they elevate themselves, is that they can be very,

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very dominant on defensive end. But I also feel like,
especially in the playoffs, they were giving up big numbers too.
A ton of times they were giving up big numbers
and it just came down to outscoring them sometimes, especially
in those Pacers games in the finals, the Pacers lived
off outscoring people, and all year it was they can't rebound,

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they can't defend. When it comes down, they're not gonna
they're not gonna win. Well, let's look at the teams
that have been most successful in the NBA recently. The
Indiana Pacers the year before they made it to the
finals were in the conference finals. Then they make it
to the finals, and then who just won the Oklahoma
City Thunder. They do the same exact thing. So it's
trending in that direction.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, I mean, you can say, listen, you want to
do that. Actually also a chat chest. If you want
to call you a big guy, that's fine, but he's
a stretch.

Speaker 7 (58:48):
Guy and people will tell you he underperformed last year,
like he's only gonna get better, which is why they're
absolutely terrifying, like he's only gonna be a whole lot better.
He wasn't great in the playoffs last year. A lot
of people were clowning him for getting carried through the
whole thing, so he wasn't fit and they had hardens time.
That was their big guy that they threw out there

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to get bored. So whatever. And that's where I kind
of think a den Bona, I think we're experiencing a
young player developing right now in where I think those
numbers are inflated when he's on the court on the
defensive side of the ball. He needs to get a
whole lot better, grab a defensive rebounds. Young player will
develop and get better. But we're gonna have to live

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at that for right now because the problem only.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Three game where Andre is about seven and a half.

Speaker 7 (59:34):
And yeah, he's got it. That's this is a different break.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Is a twelve point twelve rebounding game guy, right, so
him averaging five. I mean to mister James, you want
you want facts, Okay.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Well there's your difference.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Yeah, I mean there's a big part of your difference, right,
that's what it takes that that getting out rebounded cuts
it almost a half right, So that's a start into
that factor. And then I think Paul George is a
good about it. So I think when you add those
two guys full minutes, I think it sort of changes
it a little bit. And the Luke's point, like, listen,

(01:00:08):
Bonu is gonna develop better rebound him. But if Drummond
Key's playing like this, he's gonna earn some more minutes too, right,
he'll earn more minutes naturally, And he's always been a
rebound machine, like in some hollow right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Right, I got it right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Some are hollow A lot of years actually, probably the
majority of his career hollow. Now that being said, since
since mister James likes hollow, he'll give you those, and
he'll give you a big I thought you'd rebounded really
well this year in big spots too, so I want
to give him credits. But if you want those numbers,
I think they'll start to even itself out for you.
But I don't think it's like a closer in baseball.

(01:00:44):
We're like, man, we gotta go get that as Robbin,
you know, we gotta we gotta go find this. We
gotta go find a box out count. He lost boxing out. No,
you got to keep getting bonus better at it because
rebeb me is in This isn't isn't like a skill.
It's it's a one two and it's it's a little
bit of learning how to do it right. But listen,

(01:01:07):
I mean three game is an ideal, no for I
mean seventeen minutes a game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, not ideal.

Speaker 7 (01:01:14):
I mean he he is incapable of getting a defensive rebound.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
There's the there's the reason, mister. We found it out tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:01:22):
Yeah, he can't do it, but he's got last night,
and he did that last year too. He's good on
that end. He's very good on that end.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Freaking five blocks in the fourth quarter and over time.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Yes, that's part of why he probably doesn't do very
well defensively because he's always going for the shot.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Yeah, and he's got himself out of position.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Right When you're going for that many blocks and being
successful a lot of the time, especially early on, you
put yourself out of position over there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
Yeah, it's a lot of loose ball fells.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
He he looks like early Paul Red, just a little.

Speaker 7 (01:01:59):
Bit bigger in terms in terms of defensive rebounding. They're
the same player. Yes, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, Well that's why Drumming and Barlow are important to
this because they're they'll get your rebounds. Like Borrow is
giving you at least six and twenty five minutes, right,
so it averages out if you played a full game.
He's giving you double digits, right, And Drummer's given you,
like I said, almost eight and thirteen minutes, so he's
almost he's almost giving you a rebound a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
So I think those numbers if they're like once Barlow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Comes back, I think, you know, and depending on how
they roll lineups out too, like what's your priority? Each
gam is different, Like you're gonna run into big rebounding
teams where you might have to you mean, have to
up what you're running out there, right, and the match people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
But I think like most of the NBA is a
running gun.

Speaker 7 (01:02:51):
Yeah, and if you play like Cleveland, then maybe you
get one of those like Barlow plays with Drumming or
Walker plays with uh Bona, and you just mix it
up because they're gonna have two big guys on the
court pretty much the whole game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Joe, Yeah, mister James will make them better.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
He's saying the guards aren't defending that I mean, well,
when we Cank comes back. McCain's a good defender. He's
a one two guy. Vj's a one two guy. Max,
he's a one yesterday, Kelly, I don't think I think
guys don't defend.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
I think the NBA guys are so good at scoring.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
Like shit, I think, guys, we said it last week,
it's not a one two thing. The three guards on
the court. What do you think is gonna happen. It's
it's not a one to two thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
It's guys can score in this league at a highlight level.
Like it's it's like holy ship, Like we're.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Acting like this league isn't built for scoring, Like it's
not built to win that way anymore. Like it's not
a it's not giving an excuse or passing it over
or saying it doesn't matter. But yes, you have to
get palm zy and you have to way way defense
in the fourth. But the guys are just good at
scoring in this league, like everybody. There's bench guys that

(01:04:06):
are bucket guys, Like guys can just score easier, Like
there's not the old I'm gonna run out bigs who
can't score, like the bigs.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Are stretched fives coming off your bench. I can shoot
it three Like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Everybody can score, Like, oh shit, Like if you can't score, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Better be elited something else.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
And there's guys in the league that have their skill sets, right,
but the majority of this league are scores.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Oh shit, that's why they get that's why they get drafted.
I can score.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I can create his own shot, right, I mean come on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Like.

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
The other night.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, like everybody stretched their life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah yeah, whatever's sixteen to twenty five?

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Three is a game? Think about that? Yeah, Like crazy
teams are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
It's jack It's Jackpot City, It's New Jack City, It's
everything is a shot. Everybody there isn't a shot. Guys
don't don't like right, if you watch enough of the lake,
it's crazy, like it's it's three ball city. And when
you when you make enough of them, your points go up.
So that ninety to eighty five game, when we start

(01:05:08):
jacking threes, becomes a one twenty one eighteen game.

Speaker 8 (01:05:12):
I'm looking at I'm looking at draft kings on a
nightly basis. The over under on these games boys like
like two fifteen. It's like two fifteen plus for over
under for total for the game, like go over.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
What guy?

Speaker 8 (01:05:24):
Guys, Yeah, that's a long under.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Good night.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
You couldn't you can uphold me to take You couldn't
give me twenty bucks to take it under, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Like I've never bet I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
I couldn't tell you the last time I bet an
under maybe on a Thursday night game between like the
Browns and like the Steelers, like two years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Like I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:05:43):
I don't bet unders. It's no fun. No, I'd rather
see a game be one thirty to one twenty. I'd
rather give me give me one twenty fives tied through
through four cords, give me double overtime, give me a
give me a one fifty to one.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Forty eight game.

Speaker 8 (01:05:59):
Let me see those.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah, Like I like scoring. I think we all like it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
And you get enough stops in big moments and and
we have so far.

Speaker 8 (01:06:08):
So Yeah, Sixers have been great at that down the stretch,
like hit you were down what like I said, they
were on sixteen last night in the fourth quarter, and
you come back, you tie the game and they were
leading in the.

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
Yeah, yeah they were. And it's it's almost like with them,
they score so much that it's almost just like we
know at some point you're gonna wear out, Like you're
not playing forty eight minutes up and down with us.
There's going to be a point in the game where
you break down, and they're gonna break down to themselves.
They did it yesterday, but they look gas. Yeah, that's

(01:06:43):
what comes with the territory, especially in back to back.
But you're just gonna wear another team out. Here's the
interesting part. And I'm curious about how long do you
guys think this restriction less.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Restriction?

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
Yeah, they up in five minutes, So he's went from
twenty to twenty.

Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
Five, right, So Originally I'm like, do they really do
this all year? And now I'm like, there's no way
they do it all year if they're already he's played
three games.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Like he's a goddamn stud.

Speaker 7 (01:07:14):
So like, no, no, no, I'm just I'm just I'm curious
of what you think that they're gonna do. I'm not
worried about him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I'm just I would say that it's a great question.
God right, it's a great question.

Speaker 8 (01:07:24):
Like I think they probably keep him around thirty minutes.
I don't think you see him more than thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
That's where I'm at. I think it's I think it's
a slow build too.

Speaker 8 (01:07:34):
Yeah, they'll go like another couple of weeks. You know,
he plays twenty five minutes a night for the next
few weeks. See how he does. Maybe like Chris, Yeah,
like maybe like Christmas, Ditch, we get him up to
thirty then, like you maybe get him to like thirty three.
I wouldn't play him any more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
I would get him up there. This this is my
time deal with him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
I'm about twenty five minutes for another month and a
half here easily, okay, and then I'm going to rep
him up after Christmas is thirty okay, after Christmas time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
It really starts getting going.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Now, revy up another five, okay, and then give me
another month and month and a half and I'll revy
up another five. Right now, you're at what now, You're
at thirty five minutes a game, And that's where I'm
gonna keep you. That's where I'm gonna give you at
thirty five and roll you into the roll you into
the playoffs on that number. And that's where I'm gonna

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keep him at. So like the rise point thirty thirty five,
you know, it's gonna be a slow build to thirty
five too. It's gonna take a while to get there,
but that's probably where I'm gonna leave him at.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
You guys, do you disagree you're gonna play him forty?

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Like, No, I don't think he's I don't think it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
Should never be a game all year where he plays forty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
No, thirty is a great number. Actually, I think thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Thirty thirty five?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Yeah, yeah, thirty two and a half, right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
I also think it depends on on what this team
is doing, right, Like, right now, you're four and oh
and you're playing well without him, right, So there the
need to push to me right now? The need to
push right away, isn't there?

Speaker 8 (01:09:02):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
We still haven't seen PG and Grind or yeah, PG
and McCain back yet, so there's an additional time to
play with not his minutes before we need to, right.
I agree with you all, like it's gonna be a
slow build build up a couple minutes here, a couple
of minutes there, But as long as they're still winning
and or competitive with him off the floor, it's gonna

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bide him more time to be off the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
And past years we all know this they've been so.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
Bad without him off the floor, or yeah, without him
on the floor, that they've had to almost rush him
back just to like alleviate some of those minutes where
they're just getting gashed. This team right now so far
hasn't been that way, so that just leaves more time
this go ahead, you're good. You gave me your twenty five.

(01:09:52):
You gave me your twenty five points. Go ahead, Sit down.

Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
I'm happy and went there too, because what if. Let's
just I hate playing the what if game, but let's
tap him. We're playing if let's say they give him
up to thirty minutes and it's the first time all
year where it's like, yeah, now these thirty minutes are
dipping into the last two minutes and you're on the
court the last two minutes and whatever, and they keep
this run going where the guards are clutch and they're

(01:10:17):
playing great, they're getting big time stops. All of a sudden,
the big guy comes out in the court. It doesn't
look that way because I think the way he looks
now and the way that might look as he gets
into shape, if we're being realistic, that's the way it's
going to look at the end. Of a game, and
I know how the fan base is, what does that like?

(01:10:39):
How does he deal with that? Because I'm almost guaranteeing
that that's what's going to happen at some point in
the regular season to where he's going to have to
play at the end of games. It's not going to
look like it has And I'm not saying you should
worry about it. That's just the way it goes in
terms of revving them up. But how does how does
that work?

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Like?

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
That's the question with the whole thing for me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yeah, I don't I don't know. Like I think by
that point he's in way better shape. And this is
why I'm keeping him at twenty five minutes for a while, right,
because by that point he's in way more basketball shape
and not even basketball shape than knee.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
It's a slow burn with the knee right to sort
of build it back up and not rush it back up.
And I think that's the big key. And I think
when you're talking about getting to that point of the
year where he's at thirty thirty five, I think by
that point of the year, like that should be the
best version of that knee we're probably gonna have, right,
until probably maybe playoff time as more time hopefully goes on.

(01:11:40):
So like, I don't know, it could look bad at times,
And this could look bad at times too, like the
whole garden game could look bad at times as well.
That's just the nature to have it flow. But he
he's too good then, like I think we we get
were like, let's we get we do this right and
and nobody's alone on this one, but we're getting we're

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getting a little excited, a little over excited, because he
brings more value in those two minutes than he does
a disservice. He just does his presence on the court.
You having a game plan for him, you having to
decide matchups for him, changes a lot on on what
other guys around him do. That's what great players do.
So now that he has other guys around them, I

(01:12:21):
don't know if it's gonna look a his bad Luke,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
To your point, I know exactly what you're saying. I
don't know, because he really has good players around them
now who great their own shot. And it's not an
ISO game with Joel.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Now, right.

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
But to be honest with you, I look at I'm
way more concerned, and my question was really directed at
the other side of the ball, like they don't win
that game yesterday without the rim protection that a den
Bona gave him at the end of that game. Now
we all know that prime Joel Embiid healthy Joel Embiid

(01:12:55):
is that on steroids. But he hasn't left his feet
and we've talked about it forever, and that again, that's
part of him revving up. I understand that. But if
that's what you're going to get on that side of
the ball, I questioned really the question I was asking
those timely stops where are they? Like are you are
you really gonna get them? Because even yesterday we were

(01:13:18):
giving up so many points with him on the court,
more than him off the court. And that's just gonna
come with the territory of rapping him up. But that's
that's what scares me more than anything. The dolphensive side
of the ball. Obviously, you know, he's way better than
a Dent Bona and Andre Drummond on one leg, so
we're not worried about that. The other side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
The name brings him protection alone and the size does right,
So it does give you it is a guy good
enough to like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Alter shots at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
But to your point, I get it, Like, but I
think by let me get to those types of minutes
where he's like, he's playing fourth quarters, you know what
I mean? I think I would hope the knee would
be more comfortable, to leave your feet more right, and
to do those things, and we see the athleticism start
to come back a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
But it's a it's a valid question because right now
to your point, yes, yes, right now, if he played
it wouldn't look the same for sure, but I think
in a month and a half it might.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Maybe it's more like, hey, I'm hoping, Yeah, me too.

Speaker 8 (01:14:32):
Yeah, I think in general, right, rapping and over here,
just just talking in general, I think I want to
see them, you know, switch up like obviously I don't.
I don't want him to kick his minutes up higher
than they need to be. Right again, the slow build
is exactly what he needs, right, Maybe we try to
switch up the minutes that he's playing though maybe he

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plays six minutes a.

Speaker 7 (01:14:56):
Quarter, right, But that's what he was saying, He doesn't
that's what he felt was wrong with last year, and
that he went to them and said, I can't do this.
I can't I'm not in a rhythm into the game.
I'm coming in, I'm coming out. I get warmed up,
my find my shot, I find my rhythm, and now
I'm out of the game and I come back in
and I'm dead, Like it wasn't working. And then also

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that's how you get hurt. Yeah, so he was sitting
on his ass and then he gets back out there
and he's not ready to be in the game, like
he can't. They cannot. The last thing that they should
do is revert back to that because that blew up
totally in their face. They were ramping them up for
a year, for like the whole year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Yeah, I think this is a better solution, and I
think you'll get to a point where the minutes will
carry over in the a second half more and later
in the games. I think the way they're they're doing
it now is perfect. You're getting the production out of it.
It's like it's not he's not playing like you're getting
the you're getting the point per minute taking and run
and let the kids go eat late in games, and

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then when the time comes he's ready to do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
That, well, then we're gonna do it. So they're gonna
they're gonna figure it out.

Speaker 7 (01:16:05):
So if you played twenty five last night, the goal,
like ideally you get him to thirty, all you do
is just play the same thing, same rotation you're doing
right now. He just plays the last five minutes and
that's your thirty, Like that's what it's going for.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Or he plays the first five What do you mean?

Speaker 8 (01:16:24):
Maybe, yeah, I know. I think if they're gonna I
they're gonna it'll be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
The lest right.

Speaker 7 (01:16:29):
I think he was in That's what I'm saying, so
that when they went from twenty to twenty five. I
think he was on the court in the beginning of
the quarter and then they yanked him real quick. Or
was it the end of the third?

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
I the end of the third.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
It's a great it's a great question. Let's let's just
just answer it. I have it, so just figure it out.
I played five minutes in the fourth.

Speaker 7 (01:16:52):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so then you get that extra five
minutes seven.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
By the way, he's a plus seven, right, yeah, it's
five minutes.

Speaker 8 (01:17:00):
Yes, there you go. No, I think, like men earlier before, then.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Six minutes in the third sorry, guy, six minutes in
the third seven points. That thirty was a minus ten. Again,
six minutes in the second quarter, he was a plus seven.
M that's when he had ten points, and then the
first he played six. So yeah, they're like breaking it
down like that. Yeah, I thought it was what he

(01:17:25):
didn't want.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
M hmm.

Speaker 8 (01:17:27):
Well, I think they're breaking it up differently. But yeah,
who knows.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
Because he's playing the whole he's playing, like the first quarter,
he plays from what he normally does. He normally plays
to what two minutes left in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
The first quarter.

Speaker 7 (01:17:44):
Then he'll come back in. Yeah, and then he comes
back in he plays the end of the second quarter,
and then he'll play the beginning of the third, beginning
of the fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
And then they changed it up this game because he
played he played.

Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
The first right, because they added the five minutes. I
think that was why. So then if you add another
five minutes.

Speaker 8 (01:18:02):
Like the entire first quarter again, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:18:05):
That'll be the extra three and I'll play the last
three minutes of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Yeah, yeah, something like that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:10):
Yeah, but I think it will.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah or yeah, go ahead right now.

Speaker 8 (01:18:16):
I think it will end up being easier in the
fourth quarter because of how well the two man game
has looked with him in Maxie right in the in
the limited minutes, and they've been able to do it
with Maxi doing those back cuts like a couple of
those passes that embiid made last night. Right, you have
to account for Joel taking the two man's part. You
have to count for Maxi, You have to count for

(01:18:37):
those back passes. You have to account for the driving kicks.
There's so much more stuff because you got Grimes, you
have vj R. You have so much more you have
to watch because of what's going on with everybody on
the floor, it's going to be easier to integrate him
as opposed to the direk that they've been rolling out
there within in the past couple of years. Right, The
depth and the the amount of guys that you know

(01:18:58):
what they can do in the difference skill sets you
can have on the floor. Right, Like when you get
Paul George back, when you get Jared McCain back, you'll
have so many more people around them that you don't
necessarily have to rely on Joelle just doing it himself.
He doesn't have to play ice oball, right, you don't.
My actually doesn't have to play ice oball, you have
the ability to throw different things at defenses. It's not

(01:19:20):
just the same thing every single possession anymore, which is
going to make it easier.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Yeah, you don't get the you know, you don't get
the turnovers either.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
When he doesn't have to go isoball and do all
and do all those things, like when you can have
ball movement and it doesn't become sagnet. And I think
just having them on the floor for screens alone in
the pick and roll game, that that alone is enough
to me, like that that part of the games, will
you know in the fourth that we've talked about, like
big guys in the fourth quarter, it's harder for them

(01:19:51):
to take over games sometimes, where like you know, guards
a little bit easier for them to take over games
than big men in the four sometimes, and now Tate
a little bit, but I think that's a big thing.
I think his pick and roll, just him being in
there with Maxie and these guards in the pick and
roll game, it's just dangerous.

Speaker 7 (01:20:09):
Any great three point shooter, great, and great screener great.
I forget the stat but it was something like two
years when he was the MVP. If you took away
all the half court shots that he took with like
under a second left. It was something like he shoots
forty eight percent from three, like something crazy nuts.

Speaker 8 (01:20:30):
Yeah, he's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
And they I think they took that stat away, now,
didn't they?

Speaker 7 (01:20:36):
Yeah they did. That's no longer real, right yeah, and
two two have already gone in against us the one.

Speaker 8 (01:20:43):
But yeah, three quarter court shots just cash.

Speaker 7 (01:20:46):
Like here we go. Are you kidding?

Speaker 8 (01:20:51):
Its nuts?

Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
H boys, I'm out eight brother.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Yeah, and he's he's you know, he's attempted about five
threes all over.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
It and he's made average to a game.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
I'm sure it's three point percentage will go up to
as he gets in a little bit more rhythm here.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
Yep, hesa up there. The leaders have made three is
a game average. He's like four and a half. Her
game is his average. Marketing is up there like four
point seven.

Speaker 7 (01:21:33):
He's playing out of his mind right now. Yeah, he
looks like one of those guys he would be. I mean,
if you talk like just if I could pick up
anybody right now, he's top of the list, like dream
wish list someone to play with this team. He's he's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Max.

Speaker 8 (01:21:52):
He is currently third in the league. And three pointers
made shooting. He's making four and a half out of
nine and a half the game.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Shooting from three. Crazy, that's good.

Speaker 7 (01:22:11):
The floor curing MTP of the league.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
It's gotta be.

Speaker 7 (01:22:17):
I mean, I don't know if he ends up doing it, but.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Yeah, I don't think the NBA would give it to him.

Speaker 8 (01:22:23):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
There's not star enough for the NBA. But he absolutely is.

Speaker 7 (01:22:29):
He's getting there. He was on him and VJ were
on with Barkley and Check on the pregame today, like
we're slowly getting there.

Speaker 8 (01:22:41):
Yeah, let's let's let's slow build this. I don't want
them to start for trust a little bit, right.

Speaker 7 (01:22:49):
We don't want the spotlight over here.

Speaker 8 (01:22:50):
We're good, We're good. Let's let's wait till like February.

Speaker 7 (01:22:54):
Right, I'm good to wait till. I'm waiting to go
till we got the parade. I'm good. We don't deal
well with the spotlight over here at all. Not just us.
It's our owner, our owner. Look what he did. It
was a football team. What he did with the football team, Oh,
big spotlight? You got the money are.

Speaker 8 (01:23:13):
A mess, dude. The Communis are an absolute dumpster fire, right,
now I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Couldn't have no better team, couldn't have a better team.

Speaker 7 (01:23:22):
Yeah, let's go. Yeah, let's go cash and big this
all season. Let's go and get a receiver that Kyle
Shannan a zero interest in keeping on his team.

Speaker 8 (01:23:31):
Let's get the oldest roster in football. Let's just get
he traded.

Speaker 7 (01:23:34):
He traded into a team that he knew he might
run into in the playoffs. He had no problem doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Zero.

Speaker 8 (01:23:40):
Then what Terry's hurt? Terry's out again this week? That
was a great draft pick by me and Fantasy. Good job,
you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Great job for them resigning too, Yeah, great job.

Speaker 8 (01:23:51):
Good job Washington. Hey, thanks for letting the Birds squinch
the division in October?

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Do get it? I forget what the teams have done.

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Do you get to celebrate, like in a parade style
for the the d Bai Cup or whatever the Emerald get?
Do we raise a banner? Do we get a parade?

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:24:14):
But Patpev did come out pap debt. Patpev came out
publicly and said that he believes there should be a
parade for it. And I'm I stand with him because
I'm looking at it right now. A clear path. I
see a clear path for Philadelphia seventy six ers ago
right to Vegas, right for the Cup. I see it.
Our little division. It lies on Friday. They win that game,

(01:24:36):
they go to and zero against Boston to start the year.
You're like Brooklyn and Orlando. You already beat and they
look not good to start the year. Brook Brooklyn, I said,
And uh, Detroit.

Speaker 8 (01:24:49):
I think already.

Speaker 7 (01:24:53):
Like all beatable teams, all beatable teams, and you don't
have to win all of them. I think you know
you can get away with losing one.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
Yeah, when is the finals in Vegas?

Speaker 8 (01:25:04):
Isn't that like January's after Christmas? I think it's like
January or February.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Someone I might be out there in January or February.
I am, there's no way.

Speaker 7 (01:25:16):
To December sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Way off?

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Really?

Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
Yeah, it's before Christmas? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:25:22):
Yeah, wow, okay, all right, trip grease the pole. I'll
grease the pole outside my apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Gay wait.

Speaker 7 (01:25:37):
Hey, and be might get on a podium. I'll be
on screen servers, screensavers all over Philadelphia. I might be
it for end, but we'll take it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Take it.

Speaker 8 (01:25:51):
That'd be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
They wouldn't that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
That final appearance would be like, oh my god, we
would feel like we had the greatest year ever.

Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
Would you rather have the Eastern Conference Finals appearance and
a loss or the NBA Cup?

Speaker 8 (01:26:05):
Oh good? Come on watching these guys losing the second
round of the playoffs for a decade. Give me the NBA.

Speaker 7 (01:26:14):
I think the lebron won it with the Lakers, I
think they lost in the second round. And then what
last year the Bucks I think won it. They lost
in the first round.

Speaker 8 (01:26:28):
So yeah, no, let me make it. Let me make
a run to the quarters of the semi finals of
the NBA Cup and then make a Eastern Conference Finals appearance.

Speaker 7 (01:26:39):
Let me get one of those, and that sounds good
with me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
I'll just take a win. Yeah, I'll take the.

Speaker 7 (01:26:47):
NBA Cup, no problem, Yeah for sure. What if we're
the team to break the curse?

Speaker 8 (01:26:54):
Know, hey, somebody has to be might as well be us. Yep, No,
how about we played we played again Friday? Then I
think we play him again in like two weeks.

Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
Yeah, I mean see him for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Yeah yeah see, and of course they wont to in
a row coming in here.

Speaker 8 (01:27:16):
Then we play him again and we don't play him
again until March.

Speaker 7 (01:27:20):
I mean they're a good team. They got they still
have brown stud, Derek Whitez's stud, Richard has his Knights.
Solid team, and they just have no big men like
Joel Embiid. I mean he looked terrible in that game.
But Joel Embiid first game off injury, big game, how

(01:27:42):
many years in a row do you have to see
that not go well? I remember, I think we had
a show last year where he did the same thing,
all injury, first game, national television. Here we go, Joel
Embiid's back, so much expectation he's gonna have thirty five
tonight and he has like ten, So like, how many

(01:28:04):
times in a road do you have to see that
that's not going to work out?

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
And we thought, and we and we all assumed that
Pritchard shot was going it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Yeah, all three of them.

Speaker 7 (01:28:18):
That's when that's when we thought it was different. Right
then and there, basketball gods are might be on our
side m hm for now?

Speaker 8 (01:28:29):
Yeah, so stupid, what do we do?

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
We will shift gears here for a second before we
roll out, But he goles straight from Michael Carter.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
They thoughts weird.

Speaker 8 (01:28:46):
I mean, he's a slat corner, so that tells me
is you're gonna put tube outside. That's what that tells me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Weird.

Speaker 7 (01:28:55):
But it also could just be like you don't know
how bad the market could have been. And that's where
my head goes because I don't see any world where
they would want to move Coop like voluntarily to the outside.
It just doesn't make sense. So maybe they scope the
market and it was like, look, there's nothing here or

(01:29:18):
anything that is there is not worth giving up something
that we you know, really don't want to give up.
And then they're like, we'll make this work. He's the
best guy we can get for the best price. We'll
figure it out like that, That's what I think happened,
because it's just not a great fit.

Speaker 8 (01:29:37):
Yeah, I think they're kind of hoping that maybe Jacorey
and Bennett can do something when he comes back. But yeah,
it's it's it's just a weird fit because again, like
he's been a slot corner for forever. He's like he's
he could be a solid like.

Speaker 7 (01:29:48):
Zone guy, Like you can't get worse.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Do you really want to.

Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
Push Coop out something? It can't get worse? So like
why not? It's like Joe Joe Douglas drafted him when
he was the GM in New York. So Joe, this
is back here. I'm sure he had a hand and
getting him over here. And he didn't really give up anything.
He gave up a fourth string wide receiver and a
de traded draft pick. He switched draft picks. So like
John metchi Er, yeah, ri ip big four big four

(01:30:14):
exceptions he had this year.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
I kind I kind of think it's like you're kind
of almost like a research piece. Obviously, he wanted to join.
I heard that he waived his five million dollars guarantee next.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Year to join the team. Yeah, right, so he wants
to be here.

Speaker 5 (01:30:29):
But I almost feel like, kind of like you guys
had talked about, right, like maybe out of the bye
we see what Jacclorion Bennett can do since you gave
up a little bit more for him, not much more,
but you gave up a little bit more for him.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
So out of bye he looks like he's probably be healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:30:45):
That way, you give Michael Carter a little bit of
time to digest to the you know, the playbook and
the defense and everything, and then you can see if
you can live with Bennett on the outside and Coop
in the middle, because I think you're both right moving
Coop even though Michael Carter is a better slot guy
than than anything else that we have outside of Coop,

(01:31:06):
but moving Coop to the outside, putting him there, at
least recently, he hasn't been good enough to like still
make you feel good about that move, right, because then
you potentially get a little worse at both.

Speaker 8 (01:31:18):
Sides, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's he's the
first team All Pro slot corner. So why would you
want to move him out of that spot?

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
You shouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
You shouldn't, right, But and Luke, I think maybe, you know,
maybe you're right. They you know, obviously Denzel Ward was
probably a pipe dream for everybody, and that just wasn't realistic.

Speaker 7 (01:31:37):
It just his contract Like a month or two ago.

Speaker 8 (01:31:40):
I saw, okay that, but I saw that there was
a chance that Michael after the guy from New Orleans.
It was like a four to three.

Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
Like until one of those guys get traded somewhere, we
can't really question it, you know, because like there's a
real possibility that by the end of the trade deadline,
just talent wise, that he is the best corner that
was traded, so at that point you have to At

(01:32:12):
that point, it's like, Okay, I see it. You just
got talent in the room and you're trying to figure
it out one move. I'm surprised I haven't gone to yet.
Is Macouba in slot in certain situations or even like
I don't think he has any history of playing on
the outside. I know he is a history of playing
in the slot in college. Does that give you some

(01:32:36):
flexibility in certain situations? Obviously not permanently, but certain situations
just so you can have talent on the field and
you feel good about it. Maybe it's like EP's that
comes off the bench, but he's like, I don't know,
is he a better veteran than Ringo and Dori Jackson
at this point at their positions?

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Maybe? Yeah. I think this move is just to get deeper.
I agree with you, guys. I think you don't. You don't.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
You don't change something that works to try to to
try to fix something else, because you could be running
into two problems instead of just one. Right, So I
think that's the that's the big thing here, And you know,
I think that's why you have practice, and that's why
you bring a guy in and you sort of have
time to sort of feel it out on you know,

(01:33:28):
what direction is the best.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
For this football team?

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Is it bettering on the outside? Coop inside?

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
This ended up being you know, we said Michael Carter
inside and Coop outside.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Okay, well that's what's best.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
And yeah, but it's hard for me to move a
slock guy who tackles at the level he does because
those guys play inside and on the run game, those
guys are important.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
We've we've seen him make some big plays there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
So I mean, that would be my only that would
be my only problem with it, which is a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
No can say.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
The one positive is he has shown the ability to
play at a really high level early on in his career. Right,
he hasn't done it the last few years, but at
least the talent is there. Is The health is the
you know, the recent health and his injuries. Have they
passed him over and he's kind of back to being,
you know, somewhat of.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
A show of what he used to be or is
he totally washed? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
Who knows? But yeah, I think for what they gave up,
it can't hurt. But you know, we I think we
all kind of saw this type of move coming as
the more and more we looked into it, especially when
you bring back to beg and you don't make you know,
potentially that splash there. We know how he even though
he's got seventy five million picks, he does like the picks.

(01:34:46):
He does like making picks and then making those moves
on draft day two, so you know, he wasn't gonna
give up a lot of them and or big time
ones to go potentially get Award or a Chubb or
a Jalen Phillips type of you know, the picks that
it would to get one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
I still don't think that's off the table.

Speaker 8 (01:35:05):
Yeah, definitely, definitely still think they're going to try to
go get an edge rusher over the next week. Yeah,
I mean it's it's it's just like a weird move,
I think, not not the you know, obviously you got
to see what's going to happen over the next week
and see like which corners end up do getting traded

(01:35:27):
and if a big name gets traded, what what the
deal is, like, what what was what was asked? Is
it a first, is it a second? You know, whatever
it is, you can compare it from there. But yeah,
it's it's just a strange thing, like it's not really
like a spot you need. And if you end up
moving Coop over, which I don't think they want to
do that. They've said as much that they don't want

(01:35:48):
to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
Yeah, outspoken that he doesn't like, he doesn't want to.
He doesn't want to, but he you know, he wouldn't
be worried about it.

Speaker 8 (01:35:57):
But it's he's like you know, like in in like
base sets, he's played outside a little bit, right, So
it's not that they don't want him out there at all, right,
but when you're in clear passing situations, you want Coop
in the slot.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:36:12):
So obviously you you've had a couple of corners in
here who you wanted to take the job. You wanted
Killey to take the job. He didn't take the jobs.
They're all right, cool, we got a door in case.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Yeah, I had a good had a good week last week.
Kel Keeley had a good.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Week last week. Take it for what it is, right?
Can he put it? Can he put two weeks together?
That's gonna be the question. But you're right, I mean,
you're listen, you're right on a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
I think it's just to get deeper. I think just
it gives you versatility, It gives you some options the
things to do. I don't read it into it any
more than just as simple as that, guys, I think
that's as simple as this move comes down to big
as you can run more packages. You know, when you
go more run some some dime packages out there. You know,

(01:36:58):
with more corners out there, you get another slock. So
I think that that allows you, in a passing leg
to get another cover guy on the field at times
if you're confident in his cover abilities and he's better
than whatever else you're going to roll out there. So
I just I don't again, I trust I trust vic.

Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
So I was just saying, I agree what you're saying.
That's probably what's exactly what's probably going to happen. But
there's like maybe I'm in fantasy Lamb, but this guy
just knows ship. He got an edge rusher who was
a broken like practice squad player, he's an all pro linebacker. Now, like,
what if he just sees something, maybe you can play.

(01:37:37):
What if he sees something?

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
I bet I bet you played the outside of Duke.

Speaker 7 (01:37:41):
He was an outside what if he sees something.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Joe Douglas might have seen him, and Robert wasn't there yet.
But Joe Douglas might have been.

Speaker 8 (01:37:51):
But Joe Douggle, I think he was.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
He was, so Joe dougl at the same time Douglas, you.

Speaker 7 (01:37:56):
Know, he was definitely there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Robert believe he was probably a slot guy and fit
fit better there. I think at that point, you know,
maybe he did right. But doesn't mean the guy's never
played the outside either, So he's not five he's not
a five eight guy. You know, he's a five to
ten guy. I'm sure he can play the outside. It's
easier to play the outside than it is to play
a slat like that's a hard place to play. So

(01:38:21):
your point, maybe he sees something and maybe it is
the play outside.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Maybe that's where we're not thinking, Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Maybe he's a step ahead and says, listen, it's harder
to play in there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Than it's to play out there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
So if he's good in there, if he's good enough
in there, he can play out there, sure.

Speaker 7 (01:38:38):
Right, And he's that smart that I don't think he's
that dumb to be like Coop is like almost he's
one of the center pieces of this defense. I'm not
he's not even consideration. We're not moving in.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
He real quick every time I just think.

Speaker 7 (01:38:55):
Something we're doing, I don't think that he's doing that.
I just don't think he's deep down. I just don't
think we have like a dumb enough coordinator to do that.
He's not going to do that. So at some point
maybe he sees something else, especially like not that he's
making crazy money. He's not, but he's not making like
sheep money to where he's like coops back up this

(01:39:19):
whole tenure, you know, Like I feel like it's enoughing
of investment where they probably do see something or want
to try something.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
He's not a bad slock guy. Like he's not a
bad slock eye. So if you're not a bad slock
guy and you're like average there, right, And maybe he's
had a year or two where he's been maybe a
little bit above depending on the other defense has been
over there, But he's been a guy on the field
a ton you know what I mean. Listen when you

(01:39:49):
talk about teams like that, like that dumbster fire.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Over last five years.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
Yeah, right, Like I don't put a lot of stock
into your production into this that where you're great out,
I just put more stocking too.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
You Are you a football player? Is this? Does this
guy know the game? This guy's smart kid?

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Is this guy versatile? Right? Can he play? And that's
where the question starts coming up? Can he play the outside?

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Really really think want to buy a week? Sorry? Greg,
I really believe want to buy a week.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
If there was a goddamn time to go get a
guy and say hey, I'm gonna change your career path,
there ain't no better time than right now.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
No, No, I'm glad you went there because I was
thinking that, Tommy. Right, Like, we're sitting here talking about
a guy coming over from the Jets to the Eagles,
and what have we talked about our entire off season?
What we talked about like the pieces around you make
you better? Right, the pieces around you make you better?

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
Last year we thought Ring could play quarterback because of
what he did last year on this defense, Right, he
didn't look like a dumpster file that he that he
has at times. But that's what this group of defenders
and this team does. It makes these guys that you
bring in turn into something different because you're not playing
meaningful games and meaningful spots in this season. But I

(01:41:09):
also think on the flip side, the Eagles got you know,
kind of got. Really their bye week is perfect timing
for them, but it's the worst timing in terms of
like the trade deadline, because you don't have another game though,
just to truly determine. I mean, we all know what
they need, but like who knows, right, Like Coryan Bennet
could have came back this week and played, and maybe

(01:41:30):
they don't even do this move. Maybe they do focus
then on a different one if if somehow he comes back,
comes out and blights it up, right, But I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Think they're I think this.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
I think a move to get deeper at this position
was coming. Ifter Coreyan Bennett could have came out and
looked like an all pro on Sunday and there's still
they were doing something, yes, right, and I think something
like this, Like again, it's for him to play and
die packages or for him to move to the outside.

Speaker 7 (01:41:57):
I mean, I think the outside thing is on the
table because.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
If you're getting inside, how are you not good out there?

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:42:04):
Crazy and not I'm not going to pretend like I
know the ins and outs of Michael Carter the second
and what he's in the NFL. I'm not gonna pretend
like I do, but if you like read the the
short list of Jet fans who, like you know, criticize
his game is that he has good ball skills, but
he's been like disintegrating. Is like a tackler, Like he's

(01:42:25):
not the same tackler, physical guy that he used to be.
That's kind of like an inside the outside.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Are you physical?

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
One and eight?

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Oh, that's that, Jets Fanny.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
I watched guys get real on physical Thursday Night versus
Giants when we're getting ras kicked. There's a lot of
physical cats that became non physical when your team stinks
out loud. I'm just saying I'm not I'm not saying
it's okay, but a lot of guys make business decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
When you stink. Yeah, I would, holy shit, would you
guys want it? One of they?

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
I might not want to tackle Derek Henry out of
the backfield.

Speaker 8 (01:43:12):
I don't want to tackle Derek Henry with seventeen pillows
attached to my chest.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
No, but you know six and six and two, you know,
fire me up to tackle?

Speaker 8 (01:43:22):
Yeah? I mean, if you're if you're Michael Carter and
the Eagles Joe or whoever their GM calls you into
the office, he's like, who's pade for me? Yeah, get
me out of here right now?

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Absolutely always.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Yeah, I'll wait whatever money.

Speaker 8 (01:43:34):
Yeah, I'll play for freeks. Yeah, I'll pay for my
bus ticket over there. You let me know, all right,
I got you. I'll see you later. I'll leave right now.
Oh man, What am I gonna do with myself this weekend?
No Birds? Sixers play Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Six play again.

Speaker 7 (01:43:54):
Sunday NBA Cup. I think they do play Sunday?

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Yeah, Brooklyn? Oh god, all right, six o'clock. What it
gives you? Something bad?

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
Something? All right? Ask me something to do? And you
got one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
And now you're not happy about it. You're begg for it.
You got it. And the.

Speaker 8 (01:44:13):
Brooklyn easy easy way. Maybe I'll take the drive up,
you know, bye week They all go up to Brooklyn
this weekend. Those tickets a bit cheap?

Speaker 7 (01:44:21):
Yeah, you can go for four bucks?

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (01:44:24):
Actually I'm guessing? But like, I mean, how much are
people paying to go see Michael Porter Junior. Let's be
that's their cell right now, remember those days. That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:44:38):
The tickets tomorrow Brooklyn Philadelphia tickets as low as twenty dollars.

Speaker 7 (01:44:46):
Okay, I saw a graphic one of the lineups we
threw out last year today just makes me happy. It
was like, okiky and a DMP. Bono is by far
the best player on the court, and the other people
were just in and out. G League guys. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (01:45:08):
Mm hmm, that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:45:11):
No one does it like us, No listen.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
I mean again, I think mister James said they weren't
bad in the past. I mean, they have Gardner and
I thought Michael Carter was always a good pass guy
from what I heard. But again, when you run, if
your run game sucks, it sucks, and it's a one
two thing and that's a physicality thing. So hopefully that
can change. But that's definitely easier on the outside than

(01:45:38):
it is playing in the slot.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
Yep. And that's why Coop's so good at it. That's
why you know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
That's again back to why you don't move Coop. It's
gonna be there ain't a better corner. They're in a
better tackling corner in football. So that's the facts of
the matter. So you go get this guy, and he
can play the outside. He's a good cover guy. They say, again,
he's a good cover guy on the inside. Outside guys,

(01:46:03):
it's a little bit easier. You're not covering as much space.
You got a lot more space on the inside. You
have to cover a lot more directions. Guys can go
the outside of the guy can go up on you,
essentially hanging out right, depending on the spacing, or you know,
he only got he's only got one thing. He can
do two things you can do in or slant right,

(01:46:26):
you know, like up or a post or a slam.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
There so many things you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Or you drag, you drag right, which is essentially a slant.

Speaker 7 (01:46:37):
He's comfortable tackling in the middle of the field. Well,
he's a history of doing it. Maybe he's not great
at it anymore, but.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Five years in you're not washed up from it, right.
So Like how I look at it is like, hopefully
you get in a different culture and it's better for you, right,
So that's all you can hope for.

Speaker 7 (01:46:58):
I couldn't tackle like zach Ertz. So if we won
a super Bowl, obviously unbelievable cover guy. But I mean,
if people are criticizing what he tackles. All right, well
we can live. We can live. It's worse out there

(01:47:20):
with a dory and and Killy Ringo.

Speaker 8 (01:47:23):
Sure, short thing on that guy, Darius Slay. There was
a radio station that was calling for the Eagles to
trade for him, and yeah, all of all of One
of my one of my good friends from college is
a Steelers fan and he texts me every single week
about how bad Darius Slay has been playing. So look,

(01:47:44):
he hasn't been good, and I'm just like, look if
they cut him, then yeah, sure bring him back. I'm
not trading anything for Darius got picked up today.

Speaker 7 (01:47:56):
He's on the Bears.

Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
Bears right when you heard that? Was that on local
or was that out from out there?

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
For what.

Speaker 8 (01:48:09):
I saw a guy from w I P Yeah I didn't.
I didn't hear anything nationally. Yeah, just no, dude, but
he's done again. He's cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:48:23):
These are the same radio stations that say that, you know,
the the Eagles are better without a J. Brown there,
the sections are better without dwelling beep, No they're not.
They're not relaxed. Okay, you do not get rid of talent.
You bring talent into your building and you deal with
it after that. You do not get rid of somebody
because they want to run their mouth a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:48:44):
Just shut up, okay, And he's not even running his mouth,
he's not.

Speaker 8 (01:48:49):
It's just so stupid.

Speaker 9 (01:48:51):
People don't people in this city, at the radio stations
or anybody in general, get too satisfied or unsatisfied with
there's nothing to talk about, so they make up stupid
stuff to talk about.

Speaker 8 (01:49:03):
Just be happy for once, Yeah, right, were happy?

Speaker 5 (01:49:06):
Come on, in the span of a week, we went
from trading Bryce Harper getting rid of Bryce Harper now
we're trading AJ Brown now, and we're looking at every
word that gets saying like, oh, Jeffrey Luer comes out, No,
we're not trading AJ Brown yet or something.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
Oh they said yet, they said yet, can we stop it?
You don't like can we stop it?

Speaker 8 (01:49:30):
I remember that they started that some some like New
England guy came up with this, right, but like they
came up with it in like March. I'm like, any
J Brown just won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
He's not going anywhere. What are we talking about? It's
so stupid.

Speaker 8 (01:49:48):
We just need to do an extension, like what are
what are we doing here? Get out of here, come on.

Speaker 5 (01:49:54):
Yeah, Tommy, we talked about it on Sunday, right, like
we did this against the Giants, right, it's the Giant.
You can't over you know, over you know, overstate the
fact that, well we're better without a J.

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
Brown.

Speaker 5 (01:50:07):
But like all the Giants had to worry about was Davante,
Dallas and Saquon right, because you already would end jailing, right,
but you didn't have to worry about anybody else catching
the football outside of those three. Yeah, so you're telling
you're telling me that, yeah, that catcher to you know,
Johan Dotson was just like, yep, we can trade a J.

(01:50:28):
Brown now we're good. Yeah, Well Dotson's out of the
contract next year, right, Yeah, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
What are we doing? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Like the only one, like I said, I could see
and agree with, would be Harper, right, if you're just
trying to start over. But that's definitely the conversation, right,
It's like that's different, like what are you going to
get back if you get back, like, you know, if
you get you know, I don't know, right, if you
get back, like a five for one and and two
were major league guys and there, and they're good players, right, Okay,

(01:51:00):
maybe then you have to have a conversation because of age, right,
and you get prospects back. Okay, maybe you have to
have a conversation, right, and that's all that comes down to.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
But I'm not like picking up the phone looking to
do it. Yeah, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
I mean, like I'm in between, like if you if
you give me something really good, you know, we'll sit
and talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
But the other guy's absolutely not you know what I mean.
Right now?

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
You know, same thing when in bed, like you give
me something great, like I'll consider right, But like if
you like, I'm not picking up the phone looking for
something right now, right, you know, and you can go
down the list of guys aj R some guy.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
You're right, you answered the phone for everybody. He answered
the phone for everybody. But I mean, yeah, in all
those cases, there's a reason why they're they're obviously still here,
and there's a reason why they're all gonna be here,
whether it's no trade calls, whether it's dead tap hit,
you know what I mean, whether it's just you're not
going to get the value back.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Like I said, like the.

Speaker 8 (01:51:59):
Only first round is B A. J. Brown. Okay, sure,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
Other than that, No, the only realistic one in my
eyes is seriously Harper, And I'm not doing this tonight
at twelve thirty. But that's the only like semi realistic
one that can maybe happen. But I don't see it happen.

Speaker 8 (01:52:16):
I mean, that's that's not only if you're gonna blow
up the entire roster.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Well, that's what I'm saying. That's not even blood. That's
not necessarily like I said, not necessarily.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
Like it might you know what I mean. It depends
what somebody is like looking to do on their end, right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
But you're not Yeah, you're not getting that value back
for him.

Speaker 8 (01:52:33):
No, you're not getting it. No after a down Harper,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not trading them, like I said,
I'm not trading. The reason I said semi is because
you know, there's been a little it's been a little
back and forth per se Right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
I thought, I love that, I love it, I love
what top.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
And I love you. You won't fire ship up.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
I'm a guy up, pissed off all off, shit off.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
He's made it a buy now now.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Kissed Off comes at forty finally plays plays one fifty five, like,
let's go. So like again, I'm not looking to trade
the guy. That's why I said semi because of that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Uh, you know, we come out, we come out of
the by on Monday night, so you even get another day.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
So we're really some time off, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
But we got a lot of Sixers in between, so
we're gonna enjoy that and the fly guys.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
Yeah, fly guys are playing good, good hockey. Yeah, so
it's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
But Sixer's got a little stretch here. Better teams or
not better, but not really.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Not really.

Speaker 8 (01:53:39):
Yeah, here we got you got Boston. We got Boston
on Friday, we got the Nets on Sunday. Then we'll
have the Bulls who are four to oh on Tuesday,
then the Calves on Wednesday. So we'll have four more
games in between now and our next show. What's our record?

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
How many games? You say?

Speaker 8 (01:54:01):
Four more games? You play Boston, Boston at home and
then the next three on the road with the Nets,
Bulls and Calves.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
Oh, we come back with two losses.

Speaker 7 (01:54:21):
I was gonna say, my heart's saying two losses, but
I don't know. Three and one.

Speaker 8 (01:54:28):
Is we're gonna be We're gonna be seven and one.
We're gonna lose. We're gonna lose next Wednesday night to
the Calves.

Speaker 7 (01:54:38):
You can book that.

Speaker 8 (01:54:39):
R Yeah, we're gonna lose. We're gonna yeah. No, the
back to back is Bulls Calves.

Speaker 7 (01:54:48):
We're losing that Calves game loss.

Speaker 8 (01:54:51):
So there'll be seven and one on our next show.

Speaker 7 (01:54:55):
The question is are they gonna win the Bulls game
and the Celtics game.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
That's I think they'll be six and two coming in
the next Wednesday, six and two.

Speaker 8 (01:55:08):
All right, I'll probably I'll be in my lone wolf
at seven one. We're winning the next three.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
I mean, I just don't want to get crazy. I'm
already crazy. I don't want to get any further. I
just want to like, Okay, let's play it safe. But yeah,
I mean I could say it beat.

Speaker 7 (01:55:28):
What if we go what if? And I said it
before the show eight? No, what if it happens I.

Speaker 8 (01:55:34):
Go shirtless on the show next week?

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Yeah, I'll double down on that. I'll take mine. I'll
go shirtless too.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
I'll save the people and keep the shirt on.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
As soon as your camera angle, babe, that's it all face.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Yeah, it'll be a lot of yeah up in here,
of course, I'm personal to night.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
I mean I even I'll go no drawers, We'll just
sit here.

Speaker 8 (01:56:03):
Already off pants are already.

Speaker 5 (01:56:11):
Ah right, yeah, imagine, Oh my god, we beat We're
gonna be an issue if that happens.

Speaker 8 (01:56:17):
Oh my god, it'll be a problem of actual.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
I'm just going to be a bigger issue Friday night,
like if they if they beat him again, it's like okay, like, okay,
I'm all in, Like I'm already, I'm already all in, right,
but the car hasn't driven away yet. You went, you
went Friday. I'm on the cars. The cars going ninety five. Yeah,
you know, I mean it's going. I mean it's ninety

(01:56:39):
five plus. And then you you want to then go,
then go. Don't have to let down. You beat you
beat the nets, right, you're little six.

Speaker 5 (01:56:46):
And I think the game is gonna strip like Jo was,
like Washington almost did right on the back to back
in bed plays like all the whole through the first
three cos I'm like, of course we're losing this game,
of course, for this is our one loss, right, you had.

Speaker 7 (01:56:59):
To stay up the last night. Of course he had
to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
I'm gonna keep.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Going through and then you like you're beaten at your
two and oh going going into Chicago here and you
know they're they're the two games, so like you have
to get those first two, and I think then you're
in a good spot because then on the back to
back you can you can give one up if you're
trying to get the seven of them.

Speaker 7 (01:57:20):
Yep, I mean if they're eight and o though, they're
better being eighty two and oh poll next Wednesday eighty
two and.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
Tyres Maxy's the greens player in the history of.

Speaker 7 (01:57:35):
The game ever, Yes, eighty.

Speaker 8 (01:57:40):
And the Sixers break the all time win record per season.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Yeah it is Tyrese MAXI better than Michael Jordan.

Speaker 8 (01:57:49):
That would be how many finals MVPs with Tyros Max?

Speaker 7 (01:57:51):
The script is Eric Gordon back, like we're going to
ye ask and some crazy questions.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
The other night was Dennis Robin right, yeah, yeah, it's
gonna be so many things said like oh goodness, gracious, he.

Speaker 5 (01:58:09):
Was logoing it the other night out of nowhere, just like, yeah,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
And what's funny is that game.

Speaker 5 (01:58:16):
I was watching the Magic broadcasts and they were like
going through and how like young they are. And then
they got the two Wiley vets at the end of
the bench, Eric Gordon, Kyle Lowry. And then when all
the found.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Trouble going on, they're like, oh, well we will, we
might see one of them.

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
But then when they came in, they're like, holy shit,
Eric Gordon's in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
And from the.

Speaker 7 (01:58:35):
Logo, yeah, Eric Gordon, Eric Gordon Manjrip when he was playing. Yeah,
he's I think he's older. I think Eric.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
Gordon thirty five. No, he's all that thirty six.

Speaker 7 (01:58:55):
He's at least thirty six thirty six now, Eric, go than.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
Thirty.

Speaker 8 (01:59:05):
It's almost thirty seven, thirty six, three oh nine, it
will be thirty seven two months. Yeah, he's up there
on Christmas, Christmas Day, Christmas Day, Eric.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
Wow, No, thank goodness went on place so we don't
have to play it.

Speaker 7 (01:59:22):
Yeah, Merry Christmas last year. Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
But yeah no, but listen, we're back. We're back all over.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
I don't even know what the Flyers schedule looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
I feel like I'm doing I feel like I want to.

Speaker 8 (01:59:41):
Shoot out last night.

Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
It depends, Yeah, it depends.

Speaker 8 (01:59:46):
The Flyers are five three and one early in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
It's a great it's a great start.

Speaker 8 (01:59:53):
Playing the preads to well. Tomorrow night, yeah, tomorrow, Thursday night,
tonight now now Thursday, so tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
Playing good, playing good hockey.

Speaker 7 (02:00:07):
Don don shoot me now, shoot me now.

Speaker 8 (02:00:10):
Get him away, get him away, absolutely no.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
Get out of here. I used to like you, don
shoot me now. Don't you talk that?

Speaker 7 (02:00:24):
Where?

Speaker 8 (02:00:24):
Where's where's Pump? Where's pump at? I haven't seen Pump
in a while.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Where's he pump slicking his age Bailey?

Speaker 7 (02:00:31):
Oh yeah, he's in a two d utah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
As soon as as soon as DJ went off Night
one forty Burger.

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
Pump wasn't to be found.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
Man, You know, the last week has an age well
for him either, right, So game one did an age
well and then the rest of the week hasn't. So
he's waiting for he's waiting for the bad game. And
as soon as you see that, you'll see the Pump.
You'll see Uncle Pump. As soon as as Bailey plays well.
But I still don't know if he has as soon

(02:01:05):
as he as soon as he does, you'll see it.
Put man, let me Bailey drop it twenty five. I
feel like Pump will be in the chat like that's
that's that's k D.

Speaker 3 (02:01:15):
That's cute.

Speaker 8 (02:01:16):
A three games Ace Felly, three games, two point seven points,
two point three rebounds, one point three assists, shooting fifteen
point eight.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
Good start.

Speaker 5 (02:01:28):
God, I take Wayne, But I don't know why he
leaves Ole Miss for a Penn State right now? L
you know, yeah, if you're leaving Ole Miss, good to
ls heel. Yeah, I heard that if he's got a
good thing going there.

Speaker 8 (02:01:42):
Yeah, I heard a little rumor that Saban might be
interested in l s U. Oh no, I'm true.

Speaker 7 (02:01:45):
That was Well, they're gonna have to throw like twenty mil. Yeah, yeah,
at least.

Speaker 5 (02:01:53):
Well that's when you go right to Miss Terry. You
bypass Nick and you go to Miss Terry and how
many zeros are at the end?

Speaker 7 (02:02:00):
Expose the whole Yeah, you exposed that entire system.

Speaker 8 (02:02:04):
That's gonna worry Penn State. There's thirty MILLI at Miss
Terry like, hey, come up the Happy Valley.

Speaker 7 (02:02:09):
Yeah, hey, han uh, pack it up. We're going to
state college.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Do you like the cold Miss Terry?

Speaker 8 (02:02:20):
You will and a munch of j you will?

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
You will welcome? That's great? Yeah, I mean, you know,
good stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
It is it is good time of the year, good time.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
Of the year, a great time with everything rocking and rolling.

Speaker 8 (02:02:42):
Yeah, Sports Equinox on Sunday, we just have a Sports Equinox.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Yeah. I love that. I'll do it again, all right,
great show. My mask is gonna die, so I'm gonna
get us out of here.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
Asia.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Ahd Wednesday night only on HD Radio ten nine eight
fly We'll see you for the next Eagles game and
and a little go Flyers.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
So get you up. We love you all, appreciate you
for tuning in.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
Make sure you hit the like subscribe on your way out,
and turn their damn gentifications on for the next time
you want to so you can swing in with us,
spend the night.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
He you know, bring it. Bring a bag with you, Okay,
bring a bag. Yeah, come on in, Come on in, babe,
come on in. Uh yeah, Greg, I see you, babe.
You were telling you were you liked Michael Carter.

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
Michael Carter the other one, you know what I mean,
the one who coming in Eagles great, not the Sixers
one who had that one game. And that's what the
Sixers felt like to me. It was like the Michael
Carter game.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
I was like don't be that, and then you know,
then they won another three games. I'm like, okay, it's
not it's not that we're out. I love you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
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