Brandon Graham Returns! Can BG Fix This Anemic Pass Rush_ Eagles vs Giants Week 8 Game Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Everybody's got a price for the million dollar man. I mean,
how silly is that? And we're talking about practice.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Stuck.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Damn Philadelphia Eagles are super Bowl champions.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
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a two D Wednesday nights only on a t D radio.
The Sixers are back. We're back. It's like Christmas Day
all over again.

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want yours offensive defensive players of the game. I'm so
fined up about sixers right now. It's a big win you.
I mean, I can't even think about it. I was like, Eagles, okay, right.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Off?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, well lead off whatever hell we want to lead off,
and we'll get into our pole. So we'll give you
time to think about it. We'll let's just take a
step back and and let's let this sit with you.
Big Brandon Graham's leadership in presence will be enough to
restore the Eagles pass rush to a championship caliber unit
for the remainder of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:58):
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Most importantly, joined the conversation six there's one to zero, one,
seventeen one, sixteen win the rookie with thirty four? I mean,
did you anybody's out there take that bet thirty four?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Like you know, right?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't think anybody out there as much as I
love VJ was thinking he's dropping thirty four tonight, right,
And then go to the garden, right, you know, we
go to the garden against the rivals. Now I know
they're injured. We we understand, we know, okay, we are
sitting there right out their star. And essentially you could
air quote where without ours too money wise, you could

(02:42):
air quote that, okay, and the go to go there
and get a win the way they're down to the
way you're down in this basketball game, and you're sort
of thinking, and oh, okay, it's over.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's okay. Well, you know, we got puppies out here.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
We'll get better, and the and the and the scratch
and call yourself back into it and go up five
and and uh oh.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
And then you think.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's over on our and we think, oh, this is it.
We got it, okay. And then you get two missed
free throws.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
By the rookie.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Okay, this is us, this is who we are, okay.
And then I thought it went off his foot at
a bounce there and it should have been our ball.
And then I felt like the clock wrap for ten seconds.
I feel like Richard, Richard shot. I feel like you
gotta did you get you get ten and a half
minutes for that shot to go up. And I thought
it was no doubt about good. I mean, what guy

(03:32):
corner good right, Like he's taking that one a bunch.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I feel like, not good, not good. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
We're back one to O and Tyrs Max he's a star,
he's a start. I mean tonight's star performance. Yeah, it
drop forty like that seven from nine from three, I mean,
oh dog thirty to me. And he brought us right
right back into this basketball game night.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
That's what stars do.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And we talked, we talked about turning on the fourth
quarter and you know the best player players.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Are, that was him. That was him tonight. So Jaylen Brown,
love you.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
You weren't the best player on the court tonight in
the fourth quarter. That was Tyris Maxie.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
So getdy up, giddy up. Who's your daddy? Who's your daddy?
Christmas Day?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Right, because this isn't the first time we celebrated a
big win versus you, and that we'll probably gonna that
will probably go two with twelve to our next fourteen.
But it feels good tonight. Let it, let it, let
it simmer, let it simmer. Let's soak her in so
grim before you throw on the grill. Oh, let's fucking
go let's go fuck you Boston. I love it, love it,

(04:34):
and we you know what we should because they we've
dealt with a lot through them throughout the years.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, lot a heartbreak.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, they've definitely owned this.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
I think it's crazy that fij Edgecombe had the performance
he did. Like we were talking about Ace Bailey keeping
the pick, not keeping the pick we got Fija he
does this on Opening night, Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
The aggressiveness, I thought the biggest Oh oh, where's pump back? Yo?
Pop yop pomp? Where are you at babe? Where pump back? Now?
Don't you come on.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Back in, cuckle back around with a super chat telling.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Everybody you were wrong right now, you were wrong?

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Got I think the biggest sequence was in the third
quarter Maxi picked up his fourth foul, got benched. Joel
Embiid was non existent. The minute restriction we'll get I'll
get to that in a second, but actually I'll get
to it now. That is a complete disgrace that you
wait till six pm, Like, how do you wait till
six o'clock an hour and a half before the game time?
He magically has a minute restriction like you could you

(05:35):
could call us all week. You could have told us
this yesterday. You could have told us this this morning.
He's got a minute restriction just at six pm. Like,
by the way, he's gonna play twenty minutes. Okay, thanks
for that. He had four points, basically didn't play, So
you got no Embiid, no Paul George, no Jared McCain.
Maxi's got four fouls. It was edge Combe and the
delar Blue Coats. It was Dominic Barrowell, who I think
played good.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
That I he.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
Played that, Jaborie Walker Barlow. Quintin Grimes was horrific. I'm
just going everywhere right now. Quentin Grimes was terrible. You
wanted twenty five million dollars a year. Where were you
like he had one big thing?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Oh, you weren't successful in game seventy two when nobody's
playing with you anymore, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
A little different environment, I'm bab, A little different environment
having to try to get twenty in a real game
with real players around you. Sorry, yeah, I tell you're good.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
I just twenty five million years what that guy wanted,
Quentin Grimes, And it's like we're at the end of
the ball game. We got Maxi with four fouls. He
had five at the end, we had no Embiid, no George,
no McCain, Edgecombes got almost forty. Maxi's got forty. Where
are you like we need you? Like we're giving the
ball in the hands of VJ to close out the game.
He hits two free throws, then he misses two free throws.

(06:47):
If Maxi's covered and that's their priority, so be it.
If your grimes, you got to step up and hit
those free throws. And also Nick Nurse, I'm just very confusing.
Me and Greg talked about it off air. How is
Embiid not in the game at the end of the game,
either for free throw purposes or to guard the inbounder
put on the positive side Edge comb ridiculous, ridiculous like
he was. He was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
He shocked me. I did not think.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
I knew he had a dog in him, but sometimes
you can be a dog and just be out of control.
He was very much in control. He was five to
thirteen from three h two clutch free throws before the
two he missed, and he kept us in that game.
He carried it like when Maxley went to the bench
with those four fouls. That was a huge, huge eight
minute run of just Edgecomb and nobody's and he brought

(07:32):
us back.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
And that was in that was in the third quarter
where Boston seemed like they see his control too, right, Mike,
Like Boston came out out of the half, they could miss,
they and they and they build that up to ten
and then for VJ and as he called the blue
Coats to keep to keep the Sixers floating. I think
was huge. And and yeah, I mean I like DJ right,

(07:53):
but he wasn't you know, he wasn't the top of
my list. But if you're telling me that this guy's
shooting and is as effective as as he is like
he was tonight, or even half of that, then yeah,
I mean this pick is is a home run, you know,
because that I mean, that was a legit, you know,
thought process coming out of Baylor. What could he do
in a half court? What was his shot like? And

(08:13):
either he was completely misused at Baylor or he worked
his tail off, which is even more evidence of the
kid being a home run pick, because he was awesome tonight.
He was absolutely awesome tonight.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well, I think when you.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
And he was very much homble and that's what shocked.
I couldn't believe how much he was handling the basketball.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Like. That's why I was like, what is Crime's doing?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I thought, I think when you're so when you're so athletic, though,
when you're so athletic like he is, right, I mean,
the NBA shoots you better than college.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Too, in my opinion, sure does. Yeah, in ways because
it's spacing. Yeh. Spacing is just a little bit different.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
It's not as condensed in my opinion that it is
in the college game, for whatever reasons we can talk
about later. But the fact that doesn't mean guys are
always gonna better than the pros. I mean, certain guys
will translate better because of that, because of the more
one on ones you'll see and to be able.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
To go one on one on the guy.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
He saw it a lot tonight, I mean his mid range.
I told you, guys, we talked about this in the
summer league. I said, dude, that's a pro game right now.
Right now, it's it's a cat.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
He's not. He's gonna be a stut. He's gonna be stut.
I don't even see anymore. You can shut him down
for the rest of the summer league. I saw enough.
Appreciate you for dangling the.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Carrot for me. I loved it. I went licked it
up and down. Okay, and I knew what he was
gonna be. I appreciate you guys, Okay. And here we
are now, and it's BacT thirty four, right, But I'm expected,
I think in twenty twenty two, because I think he
has that ability on a nightly basis already, because that
that little.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Monte elis like mid range game. It's good. It's really good.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I mean, and he shot the three well for him
tonight too, for what we were expecting is three game
being coming out of college.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
So you know, man, hey, whoa.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
But again, when you said rant, we used surround the
puppy with the grinder, right, this is the thinks start to.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Matchery, dame, anything else going to use the word that worked? Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Hello, Hello?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
He wasn't on a bingo card. You know, we talked grills,
We've talked we talked seasoning. You know, we we've talked
letter simmer. Right, yeah, carrotts, damn whole meal.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
He No, that's awesome, right, it's actually insane that Edgecumbe
was realistically the second best player on the court tonight,
and you did not really expect to see that out
of him in his first possible game, right, Like he
was the he was the six Ers entire offense in
the first quarter, the entire office in the first quarter, right,

(10:50):
and you know Maxie got it turned on.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
But like him only being a.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Few points behind Max in his first career game. Crazy,
Like those two absolutely carries you night. And you know
the fact that like they're down what eleven.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
In the third quarter, and even like the beginning of
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
You know, then they come back, they go on like
a like a seventeen to something run, right, they they
take a they take a lead.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Right then you're kind of like back and forth, back
and forth.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
And like.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
I didn't think there was any shot in hell that
once VJ missed those two free throws, they're gonna win
that game.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
I didn't think there was any chance in hell.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
I thought, you know, whoever was gonna take that last shot,
I'm shocked it wasn't Jalen Brown, Right, I'm shocked that
Peyton Chrisher was the guy who ended up shooting that.
But you know, the like that shot always goes in,
It's always gone in the last like five years, especially
when playing the Celtics, right, it always goes in, and
it did go in tonight.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I'm like, you know what, I've I've done my best.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
To ignore as much Sixers news as possible for the
last few months, just because you know, we had the Phills,
we had we obviously doing heavy birds recently.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Now the Sixers are back.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
They win, you know, the first game that they've had
in the f years that hasn't been like a season
opener on national television and you got to Boston and
you win.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
I know they're shorthanded, but like six is shorthanded too.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Oh big w it's big W man. I think it's
it's big for confidence. So we might be back. I'm
just saying we might be back.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
We're almost there.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, we're in.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, I think that, you know, I think the big
thing is the other big thing is he rebounds.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
He rebounds at a high level too a guard.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Oh yeah, he jumped up late in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
There, he jumped up in a sea of green, got
that jump ball and then he didn't wanted to jump ball,
and essentially like that was the start of the fouling.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Back and forth.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Right after he doubt that done so again massive that
he does that.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, he's like, I agree with you. I mean, the
backcourt due is delicious.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Musing's say that word. I did, but they're they're that
good and the negative.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
And be talk.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I just don't know why we're even doing that tonight.
It's just not the night to do it. Like we,
like anybody that that thought he was coming back and
playing forty minutes, we were.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
We were lucky to even see him opening night, to
be completely honest.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
With you, from the from the rumors that we heard
in the summer, the fact that he's even on the
court is a miracle. So why why even do that,
like bring him along, slow, build him up. You're not
You're not getting them ready for Game fifty. You're getting
them ready for the postseason. Right, that's the goal you
want them. You want to stretch him out like a pitcher, right,

(13:39):
you know, I mean that's what you're trying to do here.
So I always said, most nights of twenty minutes of
embead is better than twenty minutes from a lot of
other guys. Okay, because see, most of the time in
his career he'll be appoint minute, guy appointed minute. So
when he's reaped up and feeling good like he was
the other night where he dropped eighteen in the preseason
game in eighteen minutes, that's I expect the combo of this, right,

(14:00):
and a combo of that as he starts to get
legs back right. The other the elephant in the room
is if you ever see the other the real loser
of the bunch? Okay, and that's podcast B So you
know we see podcasts be out and about then you know,
we'll see But right now, I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Care about that. I don't That's not in my thought process.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
My thought process is this league is built around guard
play now, and we talked about that on draft night
and we're gonna talk about it tonight.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
And the league built around the guards.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
We got two young guards that can flat out play,
and we even talking about we got one that's stressed up,
looking like looking like a goddamn Halloween costume tonight and
what he's wearing, and we got the other one, and
then we got the other one, you know, and Grimes,
who you know was young enough right per se, So
you know, how do you not feel the wish?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:51):
I mean I only had four gripes from tonight. I
think everyone besides Grimes played up the par like what
I mean, Edgecoom was from beyond par MAXI did Maxi things,
and that he got pissed when he picked up the
fourth or fifth foul and he just started spraying threes.
When we were down eleven, he just hit like three
threes in a row. He was just step back in
just he was just passed fire. That was unbelievable. I

(15:15):
think I think Grimes I'm giving a little bit of
a leash because his offseason was short. He didn't know
where he was gonna be. He didn't where he's Gonnaign.
I don't know how much he worked out. I'm assuming
he skipped a lot of camp until he got a
deal done, so I'll give him a little weash. But
I was, like I said, I was disappointed that of
his play because I figured he'd step up without George
McCain and Embiid the rim protection. Obviously Embiid is out,

(15:40):
but someone's got to protect the rim. I thought we
gave up way too many easy lamps, like way too
many to.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Kita, whoever the hell that center is was seven of
eight from the field.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
With all dunks, all all floaters and dunks, he had
grime or not grimes. Derek White got to the rim
a bunch because he's a flamethrower too. But I feel
like there's way too many lamps, too easy lamps. They
got to protect the rim better, and then they also
got to stay on their feet. There was a lot
of times like at that end. First of all, I
got TJ McConnell flashbacks with that Pritchard game winning attempt.
It literally looked like McConn. I thought it too. I'm like,

(16:10):
oh my god, it's in. But MAXI left his feet
super early. Barlow left his feet a lot super early.
Gotta stay on your feet as long as possible because
they they're jumping way too much, which is good, like
I rather than be aggressive, but like a little more
discipline defensively. And then just Joelle, I think the minute restriction,
and like Tom said, it's very good that he's even
on the court, so I'm grateful, but I don't understand

(16:33):
the usage of it, Like is it because it's high
leverage I guess we would use for phillies. Is that
why he's not playing towards the end of games? Because
to me, if you know he's only playing twenty minutes,
I'd rather him finish a game than start the fourth
quarter and not play the last eight minutes. I'd rather
utilize those minutes of Okay, he's gonna be on the
floor for the end of the game and crunch time,
not in the first half when it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's just me.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Also, if he exceeds his twenty minutes and there's thirty
seconds left in alump session game, why is he not
in the game for free throws? Why is he not
in the game for defense guarding the inbounder. Besides that,
everybody played great tonight. It's with the exception of Grinmes,
I thought Barlow exceeded expectations. Edgecomb exceeded expectations. I love
this team a lot, and I know I'm rambling, but
it's because everyone's got something to prove. I feel like

(17:18):
this team. MAXI got a lot of hate last offseason.
How all he can't carry when people are out and
he bawled, he got Edgecombe. Maybe we should have drafted Bailey,
maybe we should have did this. No, he's a dog,
He's got something to prove. Grimes wanted the money. He
didn't get the money, so he's got something to prove.
I just I feel like he got a bunch of
guys that already, like Barlow is scratching and calling. Nobody
even knew his name. Now he's in the starting lineup.

(17:39):
He wants his name known. So all these guys got
something to prove. And I just love it.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Fired off, let's go, oh yeah, they do so nice.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
It was a nice way to start the season. I mean,
the Garden's a tough place to win, and it has
been buying large, especially for you know, buying large over
the last years, you know, since the Celtics have become
relevant again from Doc Rivers all the way to present day.

(18:09):
I mean, you know, they're a dangerous team, and I
know they may not quite be what they have been
the last few years, but they're still pretty damn good.
And for us to go up there and win a
game on the road to open the season like that,
Edgecombe looked great, dropping thirty four, and all in all,
I thought it was a nice effort. They got some
crucial defensive stops at the end of the ball game

(18:32):
that they needed to win the game. Free throw shooting
needs to be a little better, but all in all,
very nice win, nice way to start the season, especially
after last season's disaster.

Speaker 9 (18:47):
Lookie, we're doing how we're doing.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
We're back.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
We are all the way back. We are all the
way that stop ball looking for tickets, don't play an
You better hurry, you better hurry. My favorite part of
that game was how all off season, whether it was
putting too much credit on MAXI, putting too much credit

(19:15):
on VJ the draft pick when it happened, putting too
much credit on Grimes and what he looked like, too
much credit on what McCain and what he looked like.
Obviously McCain didn't play. But let me ask you something.
Who are the best players in the court tonight? And
who do you look at from a talent perspective moving
forward that you have confidence in down the long run.

(19:36):
And it's all the guards, So just it. I was
scared a little bit coming into the year of just
being like it is a lot of guards. But my
scare is we know the forwards aren't gonna look great
in terms of moving down the line, building block pieces.
I need these guys to at least show like, hey,

(19:58):
they're talented enough to where down the line. If it
doesn't work, you're damn good and you're young, you have value.
We can get rid of you. This showed me like,
screw all that, Like what can we do to make
sure that this works? And I mean, you couldn't ask
for a better start, you just you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Unbelievable fun stat for you guys.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
VJ.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
Edgecombe has the most points in the NBA debut since
Wilt Chamberlain in nineteen fifty nine.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Wow. Crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I had the Boston feed, so Scalabrini and whoever the
play by play guy was brought that up. They were
looking at the top the top scores in their debut
and yeah he was up there.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, thirty four points, first most since nineteen fifty nine
and Wilt Chamberlain. No. Pretty good company right there.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
I guess that's all.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Right, we're just the sixers or.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
NBA.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
That's all time, yeah right, yeah, fixtures franchise, he's number one.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah. I just wanted to confirm that.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Okay, Wow, yeah, I guess that nobody's expected in thirty
four But.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
No, I would.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
No, absolutely, if he would have if he would have
had twenty points, I'm like, yo, hey, good, nice to
be nice to do. Love to see that, you know,
yestually playing next to Maxie, Like Maxie goes for forty,
then he goes for twenty next to him.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Then awesome.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Sick.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
But you know he had to be that guy tonight
because they were gonna have.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
A whole lot of nothing burgers offensively, you know, so
love that he could step in and you know, fill
that in right away.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
I just can't believe how much he was on the ball.
That was shocking to me. I thought he was gonna
play more off ball. He was like leaving the charge.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
He was.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
He was had the ball in his hand every possession,
which is good, but I just I couldn't believe it.
I was shocked. I thought Grimes would take more of
the point guard role and Edgecombe would be off the
ball like just athletic dunker, spot offensive rebound catching hot potatoes.
But dude, he just took over. He's like, nah, out
the way he was the man in the room at
twenty years old. I mean, that's like the good thing
and the scary thing. But for the future, we got

(22:10):
him for ten years, which is awesome. At least you
got him for the next ten years.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
He's ours that love to see it, absolutely love to
see it.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, I mean listen again, these guys were, these guys
were off in the night.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
And you know, you can't.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Expect him to be awesome every night because he is
a rookie, right, so he's gonna go through.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Some of his his growing pains naturally.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
But you know, I said, the big thing you take
out at night is how good Tyrese Maxie is. And
we talk about him getting better every year, and that's
a big thing to take out at the night because
just shows just shows coming.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
This year looks like he got better again.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
And like he said, after the Fousland he comes back
in and he looks like he's playing you know, he's
shooting on a Fisher Price net.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
He's hit him from everywhere.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
And and it's just like I said, brought us right
back into that game.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, he really refined his stroke again. You know, last
year a lot of his struggles where he was in
his effective shooting the ball, especially from three that he
had been the previous year, and that was a lot
of his struggles. And he came in tonight and and
he was he was you know, obviously he missed, but
like in certain times he wasn't missing like you knew
when he when he was set and he was firing,

(23:23):
most of those were going in. And they were you
could tell by by his by his rhythm, by his shot,
by his form, that those shots were going in because
he knew it too right. He played confident tonight when
he was on the offensive side and all the whole time.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
And I really like a double big lineups like I
think every time, and Beads on the floor at least
until these minute restrictions are lifted. I think every time,
and Beads on the floor. There should be a double
big with him. It should be Bona, like let Bona
take the beating, like I thought it was interesting. And
Beads didn't even take the tip, like why even take
the tip off and be in the game. It's it's pointless,
Like I thought that was interesting that they did that.
And Borrow is not really a big. He played well.

(24:01):
I was happy they started him at the four, But
I would double big, I like Bona or I don't
even care you Bona, Drummond Barlow, whoever. Double big on
the fourth and beat at all times so they can
do the dirty work. They can get the rebounds. Make
the shirts right now. Beat your bone. You need bone
to take the beating, all right, beat your bone right now.

(24:21):
Because when he when he's on the floor and Beid
can just relax, draw all the attention on the top
of the key because the bid was awful to night,
and he'll still draw a ton of attention.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Like anytime he's on the flour is huge.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Like I saw Jayalen Brown nearly he did, he turned
it over, he walked just because Embiide was standing in
the paint. His presence is just huge. We all know that.
So as long as he's on the floor, I would
just double bigot. I think I think that's huge because
it also gives you depth off the bench. It moves
one of those guards off the bench, most likely Grimes,
which it was tonight. I just think I think that's
huge for the depth until McCain and George come back.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, a good point.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
That's a really good point. And he does he is.
He is a presence, whether he's effective or not. You're
absolutely right. Him on the floor is a huge president.
Which one it goes back to what we were talking about
before he went on. Right at the end of the game,
there the last seconds, especially when you have timeouts that
are being taken and you could sub in there. Why
wasn't he there to a minimum or or anybody else

(25:15):
bona right or or or anybody big. Why weren't they
guarding the ball? And then on the offensive side, why
was it one of your best free throw guys and
indeed at least on the floor as an outlet or
a decoy to allow some of these guards to get
the ball easier coming in.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, clearly they're committed to just the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I keep saying high leverage because I got Rob Thompson
and the Phillies had on but whatever that's called. The
analytics are saying when it's crunch time, that's the most
I guess injuries. I mean it makes sense, it's the
most aggressive. So it sounds like they're just pot committed
on the last six minutes of the fourth He's not
gonna play until we know any different, as long as
he's on these minute restrictions. That's what it looks like
to because there's no reason for him not to be

(25:56):
in that game, at least with the thirty seconds left.
Like you said, free throw would have been huge and
actually loves it. Every time there's we need free throws
and actually just flops and falls like I know he's
trying to draw a foul, but it's like if we
throw the ball to you, dude, your face playing it
like it reminded me of the next series when he
just like fell.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Over me too, me too, like your feet, Sam Sammy
pe Sammy p. Like I just want to make it
Sam feet like they're not calling it. Baby.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
It's a fifth time I see it, you know, stop
dropping roll. It is the fifth time I see the
stop dropping roll. There's no fire, Okay, say your goddamn
feet And again you're right, I accidentally toss that in
there and now you gotta turn over and they bury
at three and it then and we're on here crying
then and we're getting no calls and we're gonna be
the NBA come out tomorrow and there tomorrow is gonna

(26:45):
say out with everybody that was a fel though by
the letter of the wall, and then we're gonna be
doing this right oh and one, so you know.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Say on your feet.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Yeah, that's that's why I was just all over Grimes too,
because it's like you twice you edge combs obviously, they're
gonna take away MAXI. They don't want Max to get
the ball. As the vet you need to say like, hey,
I got you, give me the ball. Like that's he
should be the second, not the worse.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
One twenty one and twenty five million doesn't Maybe he
doesn't want the ball though, in that spot, I told
you it's easy to play good game seventy two with
a team that does nothing matters anymore and there's no pressure.
It's a whole other world. When when now, when now
that it starts getting hot in the room? Baby, yeah,
I mean getting right here.

Speaker 9 (27:28):
It's also a different spot for him though, Like he's
playing not only is he like the third guy technically,
like you know, in terms of scoring option, most times
in the court, he's also playing next to two guards
as like the third guard. So a lot of times
that's harder for him to do. He's not he doesn't
want to go to the rint ever, Like he's not
comfortable doing that. He's not comfortable in mid range at all.

(27:51):
He wants to roam out there. He's not going to
get much opportunity. He had a big shot, huge shot
at the in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, not for sure.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
I was just I just think like at the end
of the game, want the ball in free throw situations,
like if there, I.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
Think he'll look better, He'll look better it is game one.
I think he'll look a lot better.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Like I said, he'll look better at times. VJ will
look like he's a rookie at times. And I think
the constant will be Tyres. Now I'm not telling you
he's dropping forty at night. That's not even as that's absurd, right,
But you know, can Tyres max here average thirty a
game in this league?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Absolutely absolutely. I think this is the year he does it.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
And we'll see how it plays out when George comes back.
But I hope that when Paul George comes back, they
don't put him at the four because he's not a four.
They need to put him at the three and have
Uber off the bench. And like I said, double big
when Embiid is in the lineup, now you need a
double big because then Beid's good enough. He's really a four,
like Embiid reminds me of Davis. Like Anthony Davis hates
playing the five. He's really a four on offense because

(28:52):
he catches everything so high at the free throw line.
That's where he does all his damages at the free
throw line, and he can shoot, so you really don't
need like he's just he's a spread five, so you
don't need him technically at the five.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
You can run him at the four.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
So I would double big every time, because, like I said,
it just adds depth off your bench. I think Uber
is a bench player. Love Roubrad to death. He's got stones, right,
He's gonna hustle every time.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
He's a bench and so when Jordan's and that's where
it brings value to your point. That's where he brings
you the most value is off the bench because now
we're deeper.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Yeah, so I really, I really hope they don't slide
George to the four because they did that a lot
last year. And I'm just I don't think Paul George
is a four in this league. He's just not, especially
at his age. So I would move him to the three.
Double big Edgecombe MAXI. And now off your bench. You
have Grimes, McCain and Ubray. That is disgusting like that
that that is that is the recipe in my opinion.

(29:41):
You Grimes, McCain, Ubrey borrow off your bench.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Now you're running that unit. Now you can run that
unit at people. That's a whole nother look.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's a different, different look, right, yeah, different look.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I mean, I'm sure it'll play with stuff too, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Naturally, you know, as a and they're also going to
deal with who's playing tonight and who's not when it
comes to Joe and podcast p Fu.

Speaker 9 (30:06):
Yeah, he's a wild card for me, because like they're
gonna want to play fast all year. Like people talk
number one option like in the half court Tyres match
is probably the number one option. The real number one
option for them is to run. They didn't get to
do it much today because they weren't getting stops, But
they want to run. That's really the identity of the team,
I think. And Beads bought into it to where he's

(30:27):
comfortable trailing from behind and taking three on the top
of the key, and he's comfortable just setting the offense there.
But what is Paul George gonna do? Is he gonna
buy into that playing eighty two games or however, you know,
however many games he plays, is he gonna buy in
the running down the court, because that's what they want
to do, and that's what they're gonna have to do.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Because I think what's great about Georgia and embiid is
that when your offense is stagnant in the half court,
they can just chew twelve seconds off the clock and
just iceo and just hit him mid range or like
getting their own action. So like they're kind of you're like,
we got nothing going on, here's the ball. Make something happen.
And then besides that, I think they're just gonna run.
Like you said, I think McCain Edgecombe MAXI they just run.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
They just fly.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, they do want to push it and get you know,
get good looks off of that.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I mean, I think they got a lot of different ways.
I think tonight they showed you they can beat you
in the half court game too, so already, which is
a nice, a nice add on. You know, it's one
thing you go out and you're running gun for your production.
But we said they didn't running gun as much as
they were like to because they weren't getting stops. So
you know, you got to get a lot of production
in that half court offense, and.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I thought they did a good job of that for
the most part.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Tonight, you know, with what they have, like without having
really full EMBIID MPG.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
Yeah, it's safe to say say, if Maxi can drop
twenty five or thirty a game and Embiid and George
are good for say at least fifty to fifty five
plus games this year, that we can be a top
four seed in the East.

Speaker 9 (32:05):
Oh not those if they play fifty five games, I'm
not expecting that. But if they play fifty five games,
I think it's an absolute no brainer that they're that's
the only question that they have really yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:19):
Heavy, and they stay healthy over the course of a
NBA season.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, well, I said, you're revving them up.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I mean I think when you talk about both of them,
I mean the one the ones that ever played well
in the playoffs really, but you're still revving them up
for the postseason.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And a stretch run.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Like That's how I look at those two, Like I'm
looking at those two guys, I'm revving them up for
the fourth quarter here, which is that that you know
in your three quarters of the season three right, you know,
I'm revenue up for that that that stretch run into
the playoffs. I mean, that's my thought of how I
would operate with both of those guys, those guys by

(32:55):
twenty twenty five mans a night when they play from
here on out until.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
We're three quarters through and then it's rep time.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Right, Yeah, No, I think I think what the Sixers
have come into, you know, Drin pretty much the whole
embiid era is they've needed him to be the offense,
so he's had to play thirty plus minutes a night, right,
which has killed his body.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Right.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
Now that you have these young guards that can just run, run, run, run, run,
run run every single night, you know, and be like
you said, he can play twenty minutes a night, he
doesn't have to kill his knees.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
Right.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
And then once we get into March April, right, we're
getting you know, we're seventy games in and this dude's
finally at one hundred percent. You know, he's only realistically
played a third of a season, right, whereas previously he's
played seventy eighty percent of the year at full go,

(33:47):
and he's tired by game five of the conference setneys.
Right now, you'll get a relatively you know, say, say
you're ninety percent ninety indeed, as opposed to fifty sixty percent.
I don't know where he was at, right, Like, maybe
you're getting that guy who's the MVP in the playoffs

(34:11):
as opposed to in meaningless February games, right And honestly,
like that's the difference that having these the younger guys
is going.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
To give you, give you a different ability to do
that stuff.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
And it's nice to see that he finally looks like
he grew up a little bit and not care about
the thirty points and ten rebounds. I feel like in
years pass, as much as he had to carry the offense,
he also fed into the narrative and loved that he
had to score thirty every night, that he just went
for it. And I feel like this year is different
in this he might not care to average eighteen to night.
That'd be great. If you average eighteen ten a night,

(34:44):
I'd be perfect. Like I don't need him to obviously,
I want him to score thirty a couple nights in
a row, but you don't got to force it. Like
Ryan said, this offense doesn't isn't reliant on you scoring thirty.
Now every single night, he can be more of a playmaker,
especially in the run and gun offense. We're having get
the rebound, kicking ahead, that's all you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think you need him.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I think you need him even more Again, we'll go
back to pitching and we'll talk about building him up,
but you know, I think what you need him to
be as a closer, and he has that ability to
be that.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I think you need him in that role. Right. We
talked about what the fourth quarter really means, especially.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Playoffs and and you know, big games, what it really
matters in that fourth quarter, and that's where you're gonna
need him for to do his do his best work. Right,
that's what you need that twenty point fourth right at
fifteen point four something crazy, and you know him and
Tyreeese have to be the guys in those situations. It

(35:38):
was nice to DJ when nine and night in the
fourth that's great, you know, but it's gonna be nice
where maybe he doesn't get that, and that's where you need.
You're gonna need Joelle PG. You're gonna need some of
those guys that are used to that those moments to
do what they do even though they're older and you
know their injury prone, but when they play, you need

(36:00):
to be that or the best version of the best
version of themselves. Now, you know, I always say if I
get seventy five percent and B that's that's I'll take
that every night, every night. You know, I probably need
a a little bit more ninety than that, right, PG
brightly like ninety, but it'd be you give me every
five percent and that's better than the lake.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
So sign me up for that.

Speaker 9 (36:22):
Absolutely, yeah, and clearly avery with him. B was he
I think he jumped one time the entire game, when
it was the block. I think it was like the
end of the third quarter he blocked Jalen Brown. I
think it is the only time he left his feet
the whole game, which you say, Okay, that's a good thing. Well,
if he's not playing confident in his body, I think

(36:43):
we saw what that looked like today, so it's kind
of it's tough. It's tough to c Well.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I think it's a cardio run. I think that's what
tonight really is. You want his opinion, it's a cardio run.
It get up and it's get up and down the court.
It's get the sweat in because there's nothing gets you
prepared for NBA games.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Without playing an NBA games.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Right, we always talk about that there's just a different
it's different up and down. So I think the only
way you start getting that knee right and you're getting
the stamina up is by doing it. So that might
be even doctors telling him, like O, be jumping too much.
I can even say, hey, stay on your feet, stay
on your feet for a little bit. But Wenby looks

(37:23):
like he's dunking on like kids right now.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
High.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, I just got an alert.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Literally, yeah, he's literally it looks like he's doing a
Fisher Price neck.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Just dun't get the second alert.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
I got Cooper flags scoreless at halftimes by the way.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah he's from me. Yeah, where we got the right pick?

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Yeah, there's all right, and clearly say steer clear of
the final six minutes or whatever. That's what I hung
up on because to your point time we need to
be to be the closure. So that's what we're ramping
them up to me. I would love to see him
in the in the second half of the fourth quarter,
like if you're gonna die, just whatever it is. Mix

(38:09):
his minutes up to twenty minutes a night, are you guy?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, it's week one, it's at week one. I'm in Eagles.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
It's the first game eighty two, Like, I mean, you
know what I mean something oh here, I.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
Don't care if fifteen minutes, but I'd like three of
those minutes to be at.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
The end of the game. I don't disagree with you.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Maybe tonight they just felt like they weren't getting the
best version of them, so like they might add him
at twenty five minutes and they said we're good. We're
good at twenty. Like maybe they said that we're good
at twenty. He's between twenty and twenty five. And they said,
maybe they made a right coach decision and said, you
know what, we're playing better without him right now.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Right he's gonna have to deal with it. And I
like that even more. I like that even more because
you got Robbie Todson will run you out there every time.

Speaker 10 (38:51):
You know what I mean, it is down. I don't
get another one. This will be a time to get
your head. This will be the time. But go ahead,
go ahead, you're for forty getting up one. But this
is something different. It's a breath of fresh air. It
might be I'm just reading through the te leaves. He
didn't play well tonight, so maybe it's.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
More we're not gonna get you extra five. We're good.
I'm saying he said that to him.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I'm just saying, like he might know he got twenty
at twenty five and he played twenty and they can
just literally go to him and say, we were good
with you at twenty.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's it.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, shut it down.

Speaker 9 (39:23):
Yeah, So I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
He played lost by two or three. You know, Nick
Nurse is getting peppered at the stand. You missed two
free for his first time. Where was that beat? I
agree with that.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
Yeah, And be played nineteen minutes in the preseason game,
so the twenty minute one more should make that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
And when he dropped, he dropped. We dodged a bullet tonight.

Speaker 9 (39:45):
He dropped fourteen fourteen, nine, fourteen seven and eight fourteen
seven boards, eight assists, yeah, and he steals.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, Like I keep trying, like like a buckets. You
know this still because you expected as well. That's I expect.
If I get nineteen minutes of Joe Embiid, I expect
closer that now. I don't expect eight times. I mean,
that's just feeling good about yourself. But the rest of
it I expect. I expect fourteen at this point in
his career, twenty minutes, I expect fifteen to sixteen points.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I infect seven and eight when at the preseason, the
last preseason game.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
Yeah, yeah, fifteen and five and nineteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
I'm happy blood, Absolutely, I'm absolutely happy with that.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
And Tommy, you said it earlier, right, like Joelle, throughout
his career, regardless of how many minutes he's played, he's
been around a point per minute. Now, you know, so
fifteen and twenty fifteen and nineteen is usually what he
would do.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (40:46):
Yeah, it's just the whole I was just sitting here
with you, guys, like I was just sitting here with you,
the whole got the live audience, go go, little turbulence,
ended up in his lap.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
My bad, my fall? How did you get here? You
get Well, that's.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Crazy that this is the first time and even in
Bean's first game he played in he had a minute restriction.
But this is the first time we've got a rookie
like come in and you're like, wow, this guy is
gonna be a fied star in this league.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
This is the first time.

Speaker 9 (41:19):
I was gonna say, is he the best rookie year?
You expect since indeed, like not career, but you're talking
it might be better than a rookie year.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Oh, I think this is I think this is. This
is let's say, Allen ivers this is this is wow.
Like no, no, no, like to a rookie year, to a
rookie year, we'll kind of rookie year with average rooki year,
like twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
What I forget so long ago.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I'm just gassing by saying that and assuming something, and
I think it's big.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Then he went up obviously after that.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
But it's that's dude, it's similar, man, I'm telling you
in the athleticism.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Now, he's tall, which has the advantage. He's not a
sixfolk guard out of Georgetown. I mean he's he's.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Three and a half.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
Yeah, yeah, twenty How you.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Feeling twenty years ago? Then you feel twenty years ago
pouring out of that.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
And yeah, Alan Iverson shot forty one point six from three.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
So yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
My point is I'm not telling you he's better than that,
and Iverson, we're not doing that right now. That's not
the point of the conversation. It was, you know, rookie
year was the impact. It's that type of impact it's
it's a it's a no, it's a cultural changer. It's
a it's a generation, it's a franchise changer. It's a
generation changer. It's it's it's wearing it with pride changer.

(42:46):
It's so much that is gonna come with this. Just
enjoy the rush. Soak it talent.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Right there, there's a six four guard from the Bahamas, right,
Bahama mahamamama. Right, let's go the generators at all. I mean,
I wasn't how many more ramps and boats can we get?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Sign me up?

Speaker 5 (43:07):
More got because we went through an entire process and
besides Mbat it was the first one. He came out
on a minister restriction, but you knew right away he
was gonna be a star. But even he was on
a restriction that entire year. But we went through it
entire Yeah, yeah, through the entire entire process of ok,
Noel m c W frigging you name it, like and

(43:30):
Andry Shammitt frigging. I can't even the liskers on it
on Zira Smith, not even the league, Markel fult Spenson
and all these people. And in a year where we
had championship expectations. You get the third pick and come
out with the best one. Yet that's that's the irony
of it. Like last year, before the year started, we're
like championship or bust were in and then all of

(43:51):
a sudden it just falls apart quicker than any season ever,
and then that this guy comes out of nowhere and
gives you the best like.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
And it's one game. So I don't want to go crazy,
but I think, clearly, what do we say?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
What do we what do we sit here and say
on Draft night about a couple of different things? Right,
but let's just give give credit with credits due to
this show as a whole, right, because we.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Talked about how many? How many? Where the home runs at?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Like when you talk about the lottery, where do most
of the home runs come at?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
They come at the three for whatever reason? And even
pre lottery, right.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
You're talking about MJ, you talk about all the likes.
There's a lot of home runs at three. Now would
you rather have one and choose from everything?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Of course?

Speaker 3 (44:38):
But sometimes they sometimes the media tells you who that
is as an organization and not you say who I want.
And that's where guys can get in trouble because of the
assumptions from what they what they.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Just love watching.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
They love watching first day Gmits loves it.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
And you get Zion pumped down your throat.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
And and and they should and be the guy hypothetically or
you get and and you know, this kid's gonna be good.
So we're not gonna go with Cooper flag right, He's
gonna be a good player. But you get what I'm saying,
Like there's likes of that that go on that that
I feel like we were told who the one number
one pick was supposed to be, and that can mess
you up, and sometimes that can be something that doesn't

(45:21):
matter right, Like you guys get where I'm going with,
like Lebron can't miss.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Look at we played Boston to night. They got Jaylen
Brown and Jason Tatum. Third pick back to back years,
number three spot, Jayleen Brown and Jason Tatum. Because you're
absolutely right, the media pressures you and in the feeling
obligated to take somebody even if he's not the best
fit for your team.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
They're just like, oh, Zion, Zion, we got Dallas. If
Dallas took Vja, he would get he would get burned.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
You understand like they would like they would burn the
whole Dallas is be on five like I don't know
what they go, but they would be burning stuff. I mean,
like like the light the lamps hide all the women
and children. I mean it it would be bad. It
would be horrendous. Like they couldn't sell it to anybody.
They would have to just fold the franchise.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
It's time, all right, it's been a great run here
in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Go Mads, right, I mean, because you were that that
had to be the pick for that for them specifically, right,
But yeah, all jokes aside, Like, guys, I think it's
I think it's I've watched enough basketball. You guys have
watched enough basketball. So I'll just speak for myself because
I can. I thought I knew it in the summer Lake,

(46:29):
so we didn't have to go further than that. This
is just this is another nail on the coffin on
how good he's going to be and how good he
already is.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
And when you're that much of an athlete in the NBA,
you just translate better. You just will translate better from
the college game to the NBA.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
If you're this athletic, you just will and you give
a ship, right, and you're not a piece of shit, right, Like,
I know the fact there's matter too.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Right, a one to two and all the work ethic
to get it.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Yeah, we're talking about generators five minutes ago, mohammed my
mom right and all these things. But like, but the
athleticisn't like Tyrese like Tyre's athleticism, the speed.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Will translate day one. We talked about that with the
Aaron Fox years ago.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
There's certain guys that their skill set in the NBA
will be like, okay, immediate.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
What was Alanson's biggest skill set?

Speaker 3 (47:14):
He's faster than everybody, right, he's faster than everybody. Well,
Tyree's and VJ feel faster than everybody, So fire me
the fuck up and let's go.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Let's go. I'll see I'm seeing them, I'm seeing the playoffs,
and I'll see everybody needs the Conference finals. We'll say
that tonight. We'll say it tonight and we won't be
sending it after we lose to.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Charlotte Saturday, and enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
And thank you James Harden, because as much as it
was a pain, James no, James Harden literally implemented every
part of his footwork into Tyres Maxi, the step backs,
the floaters, everything, and Maxi is gonna trickle it right
down the VJ. Edge comb everything he just soaked up
like a sponsor's gonna give it right to Edge Cumb

(47:58):
and it's gonna beautiful. Edgecombe has the fancy footwork and
the floater going, oh my god, those.

Speaker 12 (48:15):
Get it, get it out. You need the double big,
double big Robinson we got. We got the t MoU
version of Robinson and Duncan dunc.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Version.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
We got this Joel and Bona.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
You remember, you know what I thought about to like
weird enough when the Knicks went to the finals with
Patrick Ewing, he wasn't ready to win, but that team
was ready to win and I was watching him then
I'm like, this team is freaking ready to win, like
when McCain and Georgia back. I don't care, like we're
ready like we could the Eastern Conference is wide open,
but I'm like, that is ready to win. Like I

(48:59):
just hope he's up to a point where like he
can like that would suck.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
There's nothing and I can I believe this that I
noticed to be factual, So I'll just I don't care
like there's not like I can promise people that that's
all he wants.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
That's all he really ever wants, is to win.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Like if we if we think anything different, we're listening
to the wrong people.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Right. If we think that heat that's not his main goal,
and he's.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Not tired of getting knocked out of the playoffs and
being injured in big spots and hasn't killed him mentally
and physically probably to a point, then then we just
probably don't know him well enough.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Then why do we like him for so long? Like
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
If we're gonna think that now, then why would we
love him for so long? It's gonna be so good? No,
we believe he wanted to win. We watched the tears, right,
we watched the different things, And I think to your
point earlier is this seems ready to win. These guys
are these kids are taking over.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Right in a way. And now it allows him to
take a step back a little bit.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
But now, listen, it doesn't force him that to come
play thirty five minutes if he's not ready right now now, right,
it doesn't force him into any of that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Force the organization to do it. That's the biggest key here.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
We're talking about him being the best version of Jooe
Embiid in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, in January,
February March, right, like you know, I don't even say
February March, Like that's moving forward. That's when I want
the best version of him. That's when I need the
best version of him.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
And I think it was.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Above water until Georgia and McCain come back because I
think I agree with Dak and because when.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
George's McCain, at least McCain, because you need more offense, right,
you need it from somewhere else, but even George.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Especially the bench, especially the bench where we think McCain's
gonna filter into, right.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, because Grimes, Grimes, McCain, oubre off.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Your bench is beautiful, like I'm behind my mom and everywhere,
but all you need because last year they sat Embiid
the entire year thinking like, oh, well, we'll just get
him ready for the playoffs, that's the plan. Like once
the playoffs come around.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Will be ready.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
When we was, when we were enough, when we just
cut the block, like Wenby just cut the guy by
blocking his shot, like.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
He just cut he cut the ball. He just literally blocked.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
It's not even fair, Like this isn't even this isn't
even should be allowed.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
It's illegal. What I just.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Watched watch what I just watched an NBA game is
is a is a sixth eleven center with a seven
eight wingspan just get cut? Like he shouldn't be allowed
in the lake, Like, yeah, you're trying to shoot that.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Oh my god. I feel like, yeah, yeah, sorry.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
I just keep keep your head above water till McCain
and George come back. Because when they come back, I
think I'm bea can rest as long as he wants.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
So this is what's the timetable for Paul George?

Speaker 9 (51:47):
What is going on with him getting He should be
back soon. He should not take long. I mean he's practicing.
He's playing fives in practice.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So yeah, he was cleared for the for the preseason game.

Speaker 9 (51:58):
I thought, yeah, so it's they're really just ramping him up.
Clearly in practice, I don't think he's still like injured.
McCain's not playing fives.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
So if you use the same formula that we were
trying to use last year the playoffs, you can do
that with this team. You just need everyone healthy like
you can save him for the playoffs, like you just
need everyone healthy.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Like we tried to do what we did last year,
would be fine, but save embiid. You're saying if you just.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Saved them, like the plan that we had last year
blew up on our face because everybody else wasn't performing
and everyone else got hurt, like Maxie got hurt, George
got hurt, yet you had nothing.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, so if but.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
This team now is good enough with McCain and George
and Edgecomb and MAXI to you don't need embiad right now,
especially against Charlotte on a Saturday, Like you don't like
you'll win games without him so that that formula will work.
You just need those two back asaps.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
So I just hope you well you still got to
play him twenty minutes or twenty five minutes in that
game Saturday, though, like because you are you do need
the adorance part of it, like we keep talking about right,
Like you do need the aendorance side of it because
you don't want to go do that in February. That's
that's not what you want You want him playing to
be able to play twenty twenty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Rev him up to thirty. Right, you keep him at
thirty for probably a good amount of time, and then
and then you rev him up a little bit more
after that.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
See March right, probably March, early March, late late February.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Maybe you're revving him up another five to ten minutes. Second,
I was having fun with it. You need him for cardio,
you don't need him for production. That's all I'm saying. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we agree there, We agree on both. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I agree with like, I don't need him to score thirty.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
First time I ever, first time I ever agree with
you this much. It's actually, it's actually, this is not
gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Then stream that extream No, But I.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Disagree that I don't need thirty ever, because there's times
I do like, there's times if he's playing twenty five minutes,
I need twenty five points. Mae, I need that version
of Joelle and b which I believe I'll get. I
believe he's he's he, if he's healthy, I will get that.
I am the least bit worried about that. That's the
least of my worries. Did ye. Yeah, And it might
take it might take ten games for me to get that,

(54:09):
but yeah, I mean that's it, like he will, he
will rev up to be in game shape, right, more
than even like a preseason game. Right, it's not even
game shape in my opinion. Right, this is a little
bit different. Game shape is a real game. And now
that you're you know that Game one's over, like I
think the pace of the league and slows a little

(54:31):
bit too as it goes makes sense, right, a little
bit more physical game one of the year.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Then you're gonna be game fifteen, depending.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Versus Charlotte hypothetically, right, right, Yeah, like I will I
need it against a Western conference and against a tough team. Yeah,
but I don't need it every night, That's my point.
Like this team, you're right every.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Night with McCain and George to your point, right, yeah,
the whole team.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
You don't need it just to.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Press so much production. I mean, you got guys you got.
I mean, we just talked about two that.

Speaker 9 (54:59):
Can bring crazy, deepest team in the end beat era
and it's not even close even twenty.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
VJ gave you twenty, Tyrese gave you twenty. Kelly can
give you twenty, right, I mean I just named eight
or nine guys, like holy shit.

Speaker 9 (55:15):
The backup big situation is not.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Great, never has been, Luke, I think it's it's.

Speaker 9 (55:21):
Even worse now, just because Bona is liked ball Paul level.
The way he fouls, I mean, I think he had
four foulsand the second quarter, and he he's not efficient
enough on the glass. So like when you say double big,
I would rather, you know, whip out one of those
other two guys than have Bona out there, because Bona

(55:45):
gives you a little bit of rimp protection. He doesn't
give you anything great off the glass. Considering how big
he is. He obviously can't shoot, not a good free
throw shooter. I don't know what he gives you in
the double big lineup. And to be honest, when he's
out there, the Barlow at the small ball five gave
him much more than Bona did. Because Bona can't stay

(56:05):
on his two feet. He fouls every defensive possession or
if he's not found, then he's giving up an offensive rebound.
So like he gives you nothing, like I nothing to
your point, and I'd rather just go small ball.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
I thought Barlow didn't stay on his feet ever, either,
But I thought Barlow was way better, way more efficient.

Speaker 9 (56:20):
He did but he actually he had what like two blocks,
three blocks. He altered some shots and what he did
do that Bonus was able to do more last year,
not tonight. I think he had what five oz boards?
How many times have we been crying for that for
the last.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
I said it for the T shirts. I don't need
it to be Bona. I was just joking like I
said it for the.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
For the Yeah.

Speaker 9 (56:41):
No, I just I'm not a Bona guy. And they
brought drumming off the bench. They should never even think
about doing that again. So they need somebody just to
film minutes there because imagine what it's going to be
like in those games and b doesn't play like I think,
I would not be surprised if in one of those games,
a few of those games, going into the game starting lineup,

(57:01):
Barlow's playing small ball five and they're playing George at
the four. Like everything you just say you don't want,
it's probably what's gonna end up happening because they just
give you nothing.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I hate at the four though. It tries me.

Speaker 9 (57:14):
No, I hear you, but it puts you in a
tough spot because those guys do nothing. Luke, you're doing.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
You're right and you're wrong. I think I think. I
think it depends on matchups. Guys like, I don't think there's.

Speaker 9 (57:26):
Anything right, I said a few games, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Like, yeah, you said a few games, fair enough, I
didn't you didn't hear a few?

Speaker 9 (57:32):
But yeah, no, not every game, but a few, yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Or not?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Actuallyuber edge, you guys are overthinking, yeah, like, you get
your rebound production from all areas. I think BJ, like
we talked about earlier, BJ rebounds at a high level
for a guard, especially a rookie, right, And I thought
there's other guys did a good job for the most
part of being an athletic enough to get rebounds, right,
Because rebounds isn't as much about if you're seven to

(58:00):
is if you get good position and you're athletic enough, right,
and a lot of rebounds from deep end up getting tipped,
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
So how much how much a hustle guy are you? Right?

Speaker 3 (58:11):
You know, how well do you box out right to
be able to go get those loose ball rebounds?

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Makes sense?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
So I think that this was a better lineup. And
if you get Drummond starts. Sometimes when a bed doesn't play,
it's probably because you're playing a true big right, and
you know, if you get the smaller, you're probably playing
you know, a six ten big man who likes to
stretch it a little bit more, right. So it's just
you know, I think it's all just depends.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
But I'm not worried.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I'm worried about it because you know, in bead's never
really healthy, right, so you have to be worried about it.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I don't want to worry about it anymore.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I used to not worry about it in years past,
but I'm there now. Hey, hey guys, my name's Tom.
I'm going to be I'm having to be an addiction.
Uh and so, but now you gotta worry about it.
But I think Game one for Bona, I'm not that
worried about him. He's gonna run into that stuff still
is a young big where he's a little bit of
a dog on a hardwood floor. But I think overall

(59:10):
it gives you enough rim protection. He's enough of an athlete,
he's got the one, he's got the want. The rebound,
in my opinion, is just getting him better at it.
But I think there's enough guys, and we're so athletic
outside of that too. Write like I feel like we're
a really athletic team.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
So but long season, you can make it.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
You can make a move, right, we can get a
vet minute in here and get another andre boards.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
And that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Like everybody crashes, but it's about a group effort. Like
rebounding is never a one person effort job like to
be to be to be a great You can be
a great rebounding team and be a bunch.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Of six eight guys six nine guy doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
You know, you can't go Houston where you're running a
six five sixx PJ Tucker.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Okay, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
But you got you gotta have at least length, Like
Barlow has length doing right, He's a six to eight guy,
but he looks he looks more six to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Right, he's just because he's lengthy. He's long. So like
that's you can survive in the league with that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
If you have a group effort rebounding, if you got
guards that are getting seven boards, well you're gonna be
able to survive.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
No, that's that's like what Barlow.

Speaker 9 (01:00:23):
Barlow's huge part of that. He's great eight boards tonight
he was great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
You look good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
He was great.

Speaker 7 (01:00:28):
Play in the playoffs, right a couple of years ago,
the next to the playoffs, right, like, these guys are
just grinding out offensive rebounds, offensive redounds.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
It wasn't the big guys right right, Yeah, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
It was nuts, like and I'm like, I'm watching these games.

Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
You know, they're at like I'm drawing a plank kind
of tied, like, yeah, guys like jankie fouls, Like these
guys getting absolutely out rebounded and you're clearly the better
team and you're just getting out grinded. I feel like
these guys aren't going to get out grinded this year,
which is massive.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Especially nurse teams don't over years past, most nurse coach
teams because he has these type of guys. He has
these young ThunderCats yeah pikes, right, and that will grind
it out because they're on a two way contract, or
they're a rookie, or they're trying to make their way
into the leg where you'll get that that energy and
effort because you know, nobody, nobody in the NBA i've

(01:01:28):
heard say more preach, more energy effort than Nick Nurse.
I mean, it's pretty clear what he wants and what
he thinks, you know, his team should look like and
play like, which I'm confident that he has a lot
of kids that will buy into.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
That message because it's hard to get vets to buy
into that message sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
But when you when you start getting a little bit younger,
and then you have the right vets, which I do
believe this team does right. When you talk about even
a guy like Kyle Lowry just sitting there being a coach,
it's an extension of the coach as a player. That's
always important, and he's there to mentor VJ and other things.
That's never a problem. Kyle Lowry was really good player.
Like I don't want to I don't want to remember

(01:02:10):
Kyle lowerd when he's forty. I want to remember Kyle
lower when he was twenty five. That dude was a
good player in this league for a long time. Yeah,
So it's good to have that. And he was tough, right,
it was tough. So when you have that toughness and
now your coach wants that and now you got a
player that's preached, I just feel good about where we're at.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I don't want to overrate Game one I could have
said this last night before this game even started. Internet's
going out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
I'm fucking glitching, probably because mel was coming back in.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
He comes down with maybe maybe I'm overthinking it or
over congratulating. But Nick Nurse starting with too No, Nick
nar starting Vj's huge because he could have easily started
grimes and that VJ off the batch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yeah, easily.

Speaker 9 (01:02:52):
I think the Grinds contracting helped there.

Speaker 13 (01:02:55):
Yeah, if you not, if you're not being a guy
twenty five mili, you don't have to start.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:02:58):
Yeah, And you know, also he was absent, he got
into it late, He missed a lot of time. But
like logistically speaking, we walked into Boston in a game
where and beat at four points and twenty minutes, he
shot one for nine over four from three and was
a minus sixteen and you won the game. It's crazy,

(01:03:21):
like crazy, That's what. That's why when you talk about
like overreacting, even if this blows up in our face,
the fact that this is in Boston. If this game
was in Utah, or if this game was in Memphis, fine,
the fact that this happened in Boston and he played
that bad and we pulled out with a win.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Always remember tonight, Remember night. It was like, remember Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
I got's why I said, we came Christmas all over again.
We might go two and twelve in our next fourteen,
but we'll always have to night, baby, We'll always have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Kind of like that, you know, to the Christmas point.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
I kind of liked how no one really has taken
us serious now, like before we were like contenders, contenders.
We are national TV every day. Now we're not on
TV during Christmas. We don't have a game during Christmas.
Like now we were on that national TV on Opening Night,
and I can't remember how long. I feel like our
Opening Night games were always nationally televised. Yeah, like, well
now we've got every service in the country. Now you
got peacock YouTube freaking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
They weren't on any of them. That's what I was
looking for down here. I'm like, all right, are they
on ESPN Plus? Are they on Peacock? They gotta be
on something like NBC Sports is Peacock? Where are you at?

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
So it was you know that that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
I like that too, like don't think we're good and
then you're good. And I said it before to hear
it doesn't always work that that way, But it's usually
when you get over your hump sometimes and not saying
they will. We have a long season to play here.
But you know, if you get over your hump, which
is only a second round playoff win, it's not that serious, right,
But when you get over your hump is usually when

(01:04:53):
people think it's done, and people think that windows closed.
And we just got lucky to hit the third pick
like and had Tyres Maxie, Like, we're just we're just
lucky in a guard driven leg to already have a
damn good guard that's turned into a star in this leg,
and then to be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Able to steal one at three like we did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Okay, we couldn't be in a better situation franchise wise
in the future while still having two vets that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Are ready to air quote win now if they're healthy.

Speaker 9 (01:05:26):
So and stealing last year, let's not forget he was
gonna win Rookie of the Year if he didn't get hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
McCain.

Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
Yeah, Like that's an unfor like people forget that narrative too.
He was Rookie of the Year if he didn't get hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
Yeah, Maximoya, and then you got McCain and Edgecombe, like
Luke said, McCain's Rookie the Year last year, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
If he doesn't get hurt, edgecom he keeps playing like this,
he will.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Be Rookie the Year yep. And he's also a great
start of that, right, like to the point. And I
think that's what we were talking about coming into this
season and so what we were talking about on draft
night while we fell like we were in a really
good situation for the future and now at the same time, like, yeah,
because Max he's coming into that prime time of his career, right,

(01:06:10):
and you have Edgecumbe, and you have McCann McCain.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Sorry, and then you have and then you have a Grimes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
You're still young enough, right, but then you still have
the embid And Paul George.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Is like a little.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Appetizer or a little dessert, right, you call it a
little dessert. That's what desert it ismle la right, crimble
a little dessert. Right, get the fire and you know
it's crunchy, right, you get all that going, and that's
what you're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
And that's what we can have.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
And I think this team is good enough and this
might be the first time I might actually believe it
that they'll be good enough to get out of the
second round because of what the conference is, because of
what the Eastern Conference is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I don't know who that big bad wolf is. I
just don't know. I mean, finally tell me who it
is and I'll be scaredable.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Right, So I'm not like, like, you know, it's a
long season and it's really gonna allot of it. The
base is based on the big fella being being eight seventy, right,
But just from the other guys that we know of
are playing, that's a playoff team if you knowing that right,

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that we're a playoff team without him be and without
Paul George. I feel like it's a playoff team, m right,
playoff team in day's Eastern Conference.

Speaker 9 (01:07:32):
Fine, yeah, I thought the other guys too, Like today
you had other guys.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
You had those two in though. Is that not a
team bet good enough to get out of the.

Speaker 9 (01:07:42):
Second round potentially?

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:07:44):
I'm curious how.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
You're a playoff team without Georgian mb oh, yeah you
add those two air quote healthy because we never know
it is not even good enough to get out of second.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Round, slew.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
That's that's all about all I'm saying like this, like
that's the crazy part that like we could be we
this is the there's a year to do it and
goes back to the original conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
No, this was the year nobody said nobody's giving us
a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
We thought there in reports that he was never gonna
play again, you know what I mean, like probably maybe
it's different. Indeed, right, retirement, I heard a couple of
times I might heard retirement.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
He had a week to live.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah, yeah, like it was a that bet that bet
over er a three D printed knee. He was on
a death bed, right, so.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
I mean he had two weeks to live. Yeah, he
got flown in on a helicopter all generator and here
we are.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Oh my goodness, so you look upon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
You even go on. Yeah, but you know he was
he was on his way out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
But this is when nobody gave us a chance, and
everybody thought it was over, rightfully so.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
And sometimes when you think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Over, you get you luck out with uh an when
I see Taitum get hurt, right, but you luck out.
As as for the Sixers, and that that really thinks
A big, big hit of the big bad wolf that
was in the Eastern Conference, which was the Seles for
this year, right, So it's like, well, if there's a

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year to jump in and know that you have a
little bit easier of our route to get to at.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Eastern Conference finals, man, let's fucking go. Let's find the
way totally.

Speaker 9 (01:09:37):
And the other fun part about this team, like last
year you're watching like guys like Jabari Walker and Barlow
right now, last year that was Eric Gordon, Andre Drummond,
guys that you knew are cooked. Jabari Walker is I
think twenty three years old. Barlow is twenty two years old.

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So like everyone has this idea of like they can't
be great. You're like, I'm not saying they'll ever play
in an All Star Game. They definitely will not, but
you don't know what the hell they're going to be.
They're fresh into the league.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Why can't they be really damn good role players?

Speaker 9 (01:10:12):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
You don't want to coach your staff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah, and Jabbari Parker's twenty three or Jabaria Walker he's
twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Yea, Yeah, you're right there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
But like the point is is, why can't we talked
I've talked about Rico Hines at nausea. Right, You've got
a great player developer here and Rico Hines not a lot.
Not every organization has guys that I want to have
respect to that level. Right, So knowing that, like that's
why I've always felt good about our player development here, Greg, right,
but we never.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Really but we never really had the young guys to
really do it with outside of Maxie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
To Luke's point, really wasn't talent.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
You're right, Yeah, now you got young guys and we're
not even talking about bone when I told them we
got a lot of young guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
So now they can get their their your fingerprints on kids.
And when you're getting the kid it's easier to get
your fingerprints on them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Then you're just coming in. You're a great developer, and
you got a bunch of old guys to my development,
you're done. I mean, you're on your deathbed, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
This is it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
You're you're you're on your retirement tour.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
So this kids, this kids, these guys, is the coaching
staff like a little bit of breath of fresh air too,
because you get to be able to do what you
really pride yourselves in. And I think this coaching staff
as a whole, with Nick Nurse en Rico. They've they
pride themselves in development, development guys, and guys are really
good in this league. They've been known to put out
a lot of really good players floating around in this

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league that are that are on true contenders. Like like
I was saying, the Knicks are the biggest, the biggest,
Your biggest are our biggest competitor to get to an
Eastern Commerce Finals if you ride into them in their
first or second round.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Okay, that's the toughest task in my opinion right now,
without even.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Looking at anything, just off the top of my head, Yeah,
that's the toughest team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
So yeah, And you hear coaches too, like sorry, Mike,
even like in this city like Bick Fangio talking about
all the young kids that we have on this defense,
you know, and how they're sponges. Right, So I'm sure
that's how the Sixers feel. I'm sure it's how the
Sixers feel with as you said, Tommy, with those young kids, right, sponges,
Guys that you can actually develop instead of getting these

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vets as you mentioned, that come in with their own
way of doing things, with their own with their own
ara that they're not willing to give up. In order
to grind and to build something. But Tommy, I want
to touch on something real quick that you were that
you were kind of talking about is not saying we're
gonna not game one, right, so not saying championship, right,
But it's those it's always those years and always those

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scenarios that you don't think that you have a shot
that end up good things happen, right, you know our
two Super Bowl it wins. It's like the goat and
the current goat, you know what I mean, Like you
shouldn't be in those games, Like there's no reason why
you should win those games, and then you do. And
again not saying that this team's gonna win a championship,

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but can you get past the second round? Can you
get past the second round for one time? And and
that's what that's what it looks like, right, And that's
what it feels like that the years that it doesn't
look like it's gonna be there on paper are sometimes
the years that you have the best year.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Yeah yeah, Or you think you're too young or you
think you're too young, right yeah, maybe not ready for that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
And we're not even talking about cutting thats down. I mean,
we just talked about. No, we're just talking about geting
out of the second round.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
Yeah, I mean the East is wide up, the Western
Conference is loaded. But the Bucks are without Lowered, the
Pacers are without Haliburton, the Celtics are without Tatum, and
it looks like Porzingis for a long time. Apparently Porzingis
had Pots disease or pot syndrome, and yeah, what's that mean?
Something with his heart? His heart rate would spike up
to one thirty five even.

Speaker 9 (01:13:43):
Yeah, that's why he that's why he didn't play like
in Boston. They were worried about something going on in
his health. And that's why I understand people like like
crads get canceled because the physicals. How the hell did
that one not take? Like, what's up with that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
Yeah, he's in Atlanta, right, Yeah, yeah, so Atlanta's got
him missing, didn't they.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:14:11):
The Clippers, those picks, those picks are going they're looking
beautiful right now, Let's just call it like it is.
The Clippers look like us last year. They went to
Utah today and their opener. While those old guys got
as much as they can under him, they got blown
out twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Ace Bailly didn't start and he had like six points,
So there's that too.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
No, I really do give credit to Nick Nurse because
it would have been so easy to start Rhymes, and
I know the training camp in the contract definitely helped
because like Luca, but like he could have easily just
started Grymes and took VJ off the bench. But he
started VJ and it paid off. I mean he had
what fourteen first quarter points.

Speaker 9 (01:14:53):
Eleven fourteen, most in history.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Yeah, so I mean that's that was huge. Well, what
ware saves your job?

Speaker 9 (01:15:08):
I'm sure he had and taking him too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Yeah, I'm saying it's Quentin Grimes out of here, fucking
saving guys jobs in the NBA. I mean no, but
a number three pick that becomes a home run saves
your ship mm hmm, because you already got a start.
And I didn't even talk about the other one. We
ain't talking about the big guy. I was talking about
the guard like that's what I don't know. I couldn't

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be more excited about it. And I liked it one
Harper too, I did, But VJ, I just the athleticism
is the difference maker in the defense. Like the want
to play defense, the one the rebound right, and the
athleticism perimeter game. Man, that's so important, Luke Greg. I mean,

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we've done shows for a while, Like we've talked about
the perimeter. We've talked about we sucked defending the perimeter.
And I'm not saying we're the eighty five Bears in
basketball terms right defensively, because we're not. But I'm just
saying the athleticism that he brings out there is so
it's so vital, it really is. And he and this

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isn't even his like man body yet, ye know what
I mean, we don't even this isn't even his finished
product on like what he'll ended up looking like.

Speaker 9 (01:16:24):
And you're adding another Rookie of the Year, Like I
just want people to really remember that too. You're getting
another Rookie of the year possibly off.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
This is this is the rock, the back rookie of
the years, That's what Luke is. This is back to
back I was asterisk back to back rookie of the years.

Speaker 9 (01:16:42):
This is McCain's numbers before he went out for the
year twenty seven, twenty three, twenty four, twenty nine, twenty
twenty thirty, eighteen fifteen. Then he got hurt so like
it was going down.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
It was on his way down. He was back to earth.
Yeah he was there was put out.

Speaker 5 (01:17:04):
It's funny because now he can guard the perimeter, no problem.
It's just rim protection. To beat the sixers, even with
them beating the lineup, just attack the rim. But we
we watched such a heavy three point shooting league that
everyone jacks up threes because that's what the analytics say
to do, and it fails us out because we're a
team full of guards. We're undersize, Like even with them
beat on the floor, he's not jumping like Luke said,
he jumped one time all night and night.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
He'll jump, He'll jump, He'll jump Game one in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
I'm not saying I can't. He can never jump again,
Like we has a jump and I feel like now
we're we're assuming.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Is that what we feel until he'll never jump.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
I do know in the in the playoffs, quarters one
through three doesn't jump. I've watched it for years. He
wasted the fourth quarter because he doesn't want to get
in foul trouble, which is smart. Not complaining, just saying
the way to beat this team is to attack the
rim because quarters one through three in the playoffs, he's
not gonna jump, he doesn't want to get foul trouble.
He doesn't, he doesn't contest anything.

Speaker 9 (01:18:00):
Yeah, we're also going to be adult. We're going to
be at bottom of the pack defensive team in the
league this year. Like I have no doubt in my
mind saying that. And that's fine. Again, Like you're talking
about a very young team, guard heavy team, and it's
gonna come down to how good they are in transition
throughout the year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Yeah, yeah, I still think, you know, because you've got
a guy that preaches defense here, and if you got
a bunch of young kids that want to play defense,
you can be good enough, right, you can, right, But
I think the times I'm not talking about top ten
defense in the league, I'm saying like middle of.

Speaker 9 (01:18:34):
The pack, I don't think. I don't think it's an
effort thing either, I really don't. I just think that
they don't have the guys to do it right now,
and you have McCain to that mix, it's it's not
going to get any better. But like they had Jalen
Brown posting up numerous guys like Grimes throughout the night
in the fourth quarter, just hunting them out. There's some

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teams gonna have mismatches throughout the whole game. That's just
what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
We got to hunt out there, too, right, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:19:02):
Yeah, no, and we just got to run. We'll be
one of the best of teams in the league.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
That's the only thing that drives me. Not it's the
easy layups and the easy ducks. If we can clean
that up, get it up.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Yeah, well, I think that's part of that's game one
with young guys. Yeah, right, game and that's why you
still win the night because it's game one with young guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
So to still win the night is awesome because of
what how young they are.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
So now you gain some confidence, right and listen, we'll
see where it goes Saturday, Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Here and yeah, let's go, let's anonymous, let's go too
and O.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Let's try to go too and out here and keep
feeling good about ourselves or go the other way. All right,
let's get in some eagles before it gets way too
eight here and circle back to a poll on an
hour and nineteen minutes ago, we had bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Things to worry about, Yeah, bigger things to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
We talk about the game one of the sixers for
an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
And you don't Yeah, you don't expect that kind of.

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
Win to four points will get you talking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Well, thirty four thirty four points from a rookie. I
think we did We did it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
That's another delicious move from Dyan Harper, by the way,
But we we we it's it's it's we almost didn't
give it enough credit in.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
A weird way early on on this show, No doubt, right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
I think we sort of like not that we like
I said, nobody called that and we had that on
their bingo card.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Thirty four.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
If you gave you twenty, you're loving it, right, you're
loving a twenty piece, like, yup, we got our guy, right,
even if it's like eight for twenty eight shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
You're like, you got your guy twenty. Oh this big night.

Speaker 8 (01:20:46):
It's not like we played Charlotte. I mean, we played
the fucking Boston Celtics on the road at the Garden
and got the job done.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
No, you know it, No, you know it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
I said, this is Allen Iverson impact. Yeah, this is
this is this this equivalent to what that was we
don't have much more to to equate to. This has
been a poverty franchise of to equating, Like like every
decade he's saying you have greatness because you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Didn't it really is?

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
It really is like we have some key guys that
were awesome, but like, there isn't a There isn't a
laundry list here, babe.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
So the only thing in my lifetime I can equate
it to six.

Speaker 8 (01:21:22):
Ers wise, he's not a lot of playoff success to
go with it either.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
So you didn't give us a twenty He gave us
the whole bundle box. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
I was praying for sixteen. That was my number. I'm like,
let's just get the sixteen points, get the hell out
of here. I'll feel good about myself. We'll build off
of it. And he doubled that crazy up on insane.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Yeah, but again, is he gonna do that Saturday against Charlotte?
Maybe not.

Speaker 13 (01:21:51):
Yet, or maybe he come to drop twenty five and
you're like, okay, he's he's gonna have a monster rookie
year if he comes back and drop the twenty five piece,
You're like, okay, there there isn't a big learning.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
Curve here, babe. Athletes athletes, Yeah, I mean athletes will
athlete and go. You know, we talk about our coaching
stands all the time. You give me athletes, I will
get him better, right, And I think this is a
guy that as a coaching stad I would draw over
right to get this guy in your fingertips.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Well, look, how are you? Hey, Hey, how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
You?

Speaker 9 (01:22:25):
Look like he looked like Jimmy Butler got bit by
like a spider or something. It's like some like he's
just like glitchy. He jumps, he's twitchy, he looks like
Jimmy Butler, and that he's like pound for pounding. You
look at him, You're like, he's probably not a slasher.
He doesn't look that strong. He is insanely strong around

(01:22:45):
the rim and he uses it and he plays at
his pace. He can speed you up, then he can
slow you down. And he's he's comfortable with the ball
in his hands. Like he reminded me of like a
twitchy Jimmy Butler today.

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
Yeah, And the crazy part of his final thoughts on it,
he might play even better against Charlotte because Charlotte plays
like there at La Fitness and all they do is run.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
It's all transition. It's literally just the rim running with the.

Speaker 9 (01:23:15):
Yeah, they scored one hundred and thirty six today. I
mean they played Brooklyn, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Oh they're just in the playground. Yeah with with La Mellow,
La Mellow, I mean the Mellow is built for the playground,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Yeah, La Melow, the Mellow will shoot the ball from
the inbat right, you know what I mean. Like, he
hasn't found a shot he don't like, and he loves
he loves getting cute with every past he's ever made.
So they are absolutely built for like the end one mixtape. Yeah,
that's what they That's what they really want to be
on the Savannah Bananas of the NBA. Yeah, I feel

(01:23:54):
like the watch they really are. Oh I'm not saying
they're not. That's my point, Like, you know what I mean,
I'm trying to equate to something, but I do case
he enjoys the La Fitness Andybody. They're playing a YMC
A leg in your early twenties, you you would you
would feel the same way. Yeah, we're still talking about

(01:24:15):
basketball because.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
You can you can.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Five or two Philadelphia Eagles rivalry game. This week, little
little redemption tour. You're coming into our house now, you mother?
All right, Brandon Graham's leadership and presidence will be enough
to restore the Eagles pass rush to a championship caliber
unit for the remainder of the season. A Breer disagree,

(01:24:41):
Let us know, Uh, I mean what he's kind of
questions the way the word are they get me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Sometimes And I don't know. If I'm alone and I'm
on my own little like tom Island over here, but.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
Like if everything around it's good enough to be a
championship caliber thing, then I don't then then like can
it be good enough? Can it be serviceable enough to
like help us win a Super Bowl? Like if that's
the question, like or is it? Is it gonna be
the main reason we win a Super Bowl? Like you know,
like a championship caliber unit, but they could be like

(01:25:24):
average and everything around it could be great.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
It's fixing the Pats Rush. That's that's what it's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Okay. I like to ask you because you, as Semini,
Gemini gives you this.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
I give Gemini some ideas and this is what it
pops out. It's about fixing. It's about fixing the call.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
It I should just call it Jack Jahn.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
I need to ask you, where are we going with Well,
I will double down on it then, So I would
say yes, the addition of Brandon Graham and the addition
of Nolan Smith. Yes, because I think the one I
think Brandon Graham gives you. And I talked to a
lot of people about this randomly because everybody's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Like, oh, we think about BJ.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
Well, I'll tell you what I think about BJ. He
can't hurt us at this point, and two he will
stop the run. He so we've been a good edge
run stopper.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
We don't have that. Nolan Smith's good at it, Pg's
good at it. We need that. We don't have it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
That's our biggest problem, not getting after the quarterback. Like
we're putting pressure on guys. We're not getting home Aton.
But it's not like our pressure rates aren't there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Now they might not be.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
I don't have the little you know, analytics in front
of me, and if they're not, fine, but I feel
like recently we getting more pressure. I like we're at
the feet of Carson Wentz that entire game. So I
think we're getting there. So I think the addition to him, well,
I help your pass rusher a little bit now, first
time playing, probably not, but let him get repped up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Yeah, and he will help you with your run defense.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
But I think bigger than that, it's the leadership to
help the kids, right, It's to help the younger guys here,
and getting on Smith back is a big part of
why I agree that this that it's enough, it's enough
to it's enough to help you win a Super Bowl
and be good enough. Yes, because you have you have
Jayen Carter here. We still have Jailn Carter here. So

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anything you can add at this point in the year.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Is a win.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Is a win.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
We say about this area Smith at age, Well, we'll
say about Brandon Graham, hope he doesn't double retire right now,
But why is he gonna hurt you? Last year he
was good. Look, people didn't want him to retire yet
because he was good, Like they didn't want to play
him as much as they did essentially at thirty six.
But at the end of the year he was he

(01:27:42):
was playing at such a high level before he got hurt.
It's the only reason to retire. Probably is because he
got hurt. Makes sense, He's right, like, if he didn't
retire if he didn't get hurt, he might not retired.
He might have ran it back for one more obviously,
and the super Bowl helps you go out on top two,
it does.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
But an injury and injury not where I wanted to
go through the I want to come back. And then
you get through it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
And he started watching a couple of weeks and you're like, oh,
I can help that, that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
I can help that. I can still just don't.

Speaker 9 (01:28:16):
I don't like it for him. I I really agree
that exactly what just happened.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
But what I love it for us?

Speaker 9 (01:28:24):
I love it for us. Why do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
No? We know why?

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
You know why you shouldn't hate it for him? He's
a two time super Bowl winning champion, right, Yeah? That
that in a city that didn't like to pick from
day one, that one at all, Thomas from day one,
you should There's nothing for it. He he he, He
did this already essentially dot to the people who didn't

(01:28:50):
like it. He already proved his work here, so he's
already went out on top. There's no there's no going
out on the bottom for him at this point. There's
not like I know where your head's at. But if
you either two times Street Role winning champion, he's been.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
The three of them. I think he's been the more
than that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Actually he might have been another one, but he's at
least been He's at least been to.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Three and he's won two. You know.

Speaker 9 (01:29:14):
Yeah, that's what you know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
And a guy that nobody liked to pick. I think
that's a home run for him. So I don't think
I think he can only help us. This is the
playoff team. He's not going to go out on the
bottom as a team that goes seven and ten and
doesn't make the dance. Makes sense, that's how you go out,
not on the top. To your point, you play this year,
you start this year, you say I'm all in for
one more final farewell, and I'm four and thirteen.

Speaker 9 (01:29:40):
I mean, I don't want to sound like I'm not confident,
because I do think that right now. I think if
I would have bet on one team to win the
Super Bowl, I would say it's us. But I just
again like, I just don't say this crashes and burns,
because just like any NFL team, it's definitely on the table.
I just don't like that for him, I really don't.
I just he went out on his own terms, like

(01:30:04):
you see, and he retired like at the top of
his game, and he did the whole ceremony. He introduced
the two the Lombardi Trophy to the whole stadium in
the opening night. He's like the ambassador of your team
now and he's embracing that. And I think it's great
for him. But to come back and put that all

(01:30:26):
in the air, like, well, no, but I love it
for us. As you said it, we can't lose, So
I love it for us.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
Looks to what you're saying, but.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
More to it, I'm glad he's back.

Speaker 8 (01:30:41):
Don't get me wrong. I definitely think he still has
the ability to help us on the field, provided he
can stay healthy. But that's a pretty big iff right now.
I mean, he tore his bicep not once, but twice
in less than a year. Yeah, and what I worry
about at thirty seven years old. You know, it's not

(01:31:02):
like he's a kicker or a punter, guys. I mean,
obviously he's He's playing a physical game at a very
demanding position, and I don't want him to play to
the point that it's going to affect him post career.
I don't want him to play to the point where
when he's forty five years.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Old, he's not able to walk, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:31:25):
And you know, I, you know, I think we can
all say and I'll speak. I think I can safely
speak for everybody here on this show. We care about
this guy, you know, and he we've embraced this guy,
just like he has embraced us and embraced the city
of Philadelphield. And I would hate for him to hang

(01:31:48):
on so long to where his health goes south.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
And I don't just mean his bicep, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:31:55):
And yeah, I kind of have mixed feelings about him
coming back. I definitely think he'll help us on the field,
But yeah, I mean, I I really worry, you know,
how many snaps is too many? You know, and unfortunately
gone in We've seen it for a number of years now.

(01:32:16):
We've seen some guys who have hung on too long
and saw some pretty tragic consequences because of it, whether
it be debilitation or God forbid.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:32:28):
Well, I don't want to go down the whole cte
road and.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
All that, but.

Speaker 8 (01:32:33):
You know, I mean, obviously we wish BG the best,
and you know, I hope he can come back and uh,
you know, contribute greatly to the football game there to
this football team, but.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Tressed like the last ten games of his of the
year here is like hang all for too long and
debilitating injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
And what I'm meaning is he coming back?

Speaker 8 (01:33:09):
Is he coming back the year after?

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Is he coming back year deal? I mean, I get it,
He's probably not going to play five more years.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
But this is a talked him back into it. VIC
talked him back into it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
This is a football team that needs him right now,
So leave it it, like, don't deep as far as
on the field, no question.

Speaker 7 (01:33:30):
And yeah, so where I think we're at with Biji
and him coming back, I think him coming back is
a lot bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Off the field, and it will be on the field, yes, right.

Speaker 7 (01:33:43):
I think him coming back and being able to you know,
be with Jalen Carter and helping out Jlex Hunts and
these other guys who we thought might be able to
take a step up who haven't done that yet this year,
which is why our past rush has not.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
Been very good.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:33:57):
I think he can help coach those guys up on
top of Vic and all of our other positional coaches
or in practice to help them be more impactful on Sundays,
which is what we need right now. Like, and I
think that's more of the role he's gonna come on
and do. Now, obviously he's gonna get some snaps. He'll
probably haven't end up having a few sacks this year.
He's like we, like Tommy said, you know, he's very

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good at stopping the run. He's he's gonna he's gonna
have an impact. He's not gonna be the guy who's
gonna go out there and get you ten sacks the
rest of the year.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
Right, he might get you a couple, right.

Speaker 7 (01:34:30):
I do think that this team still needs to go
and add somebody before the deadline as a pass rusher, right,
because I still think they're lacking in that area. But
he absolutely helps you in the locker room and he
helps you as like a like an on the field
type coach.

Speaker 8 (01:34:43):
So completely agrees that's where we're at. That I just
don't want to see long term consequences, that's all I
get it. Like there, I understand there.

Speaker 7 (01:34:57):
But like he's been relatively healthy as entire career, right,
he's got.

Speaker 9 (01:35:02):
That's what makes it scary though, And now he's he's
all of a sudden. I was going to say that too.
He's been healthy, is pretty much his whole career has
been totally reliable. And you're talking about the same injury
that's happened on the same side, the same tricept twice.
I'm not I'm not trying to make it about this.
It's huge for the Eagles. I'll change the narrative, huge
for the birds. Right off the field swove o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
It's swelve o'clock and no one has to go on,
and it changes in the direction of of injuries and
the more hamblin.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Yeah, I mean Greg's got the three on.

Speaker 8 (01:35:44):
I wasn't exactly thinking ambulance or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
You just said he's going to get like, you know,
nerves injury times.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
It's big for us, but for him give this ship,
that's his arm plicated because be able to hold his kids.
Like what were we talking about?

Speaker 9 (01:36:15):
No, I don't mean an injury wise more than I
mean a legacy wise, Like that was just the picture
perfect way to go out. How he went out.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
I agree with Luke there remember that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Who do I remember that?

Speaker 9 (01:36:29):
I remember it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Years and now you're gonna remember went out on top.
I remember I remember Jason.

Speaker 7 (01:36:36):
Kel I remember how I was going to say, like,
like Kelsey Kelsey going in and playing in the Super
Bowl against his brother in his last career game, and
he does one more and they you know, they had
the historic freaking collapse that they did.

Speaker 9 (01:36:50):
That's how he ends his career. I always think about that.
I think about that all the time, and how he
didn't get the next one the next year. I see
Jason Kelsey, I think of what.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Is role with you guys all the time?

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
Oh my god, you Oh you're crying the car when
a god damn song comes on and you guys are
like that makes me think. That makes me think of
Jason Kelsey. Oh, man, if you didn't come back, they
didn't come back.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Word brother carry he laugh. We want a Super Bowl. Ye,
that's different, don't.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Brother?

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
What do you want me to tell you?

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Anybody's got a brother knows if you lose to your brother,
you want to come back, even if you lose to
somebody else. You'll take that over losing to your brother, right,
and anybody will take that one right in defensive Kelsey
And there the Jason that is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
But I don't think you think that's a hell of
an answer. So the defensive, Luke, You've thought about this
a lot. I just know what the hell I'm talking about.
I'm quick. I mean you mean buckets on starting with
this ship with me at twelve or seven, because it
so fast fast with you, I'm creating the Paul birds. Yeah. Well,

(01:38:02):
trying to just get through it, you know what I mean,
We're just trying to get it. I don't don't end
up with debilitating, uh lifelong injuries after this pole question.
Let just make sure we have actually.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
For me sed nese papers. In themorrow, I'm gonna walk
out on a wheelchair. I'm coming on a wheelchair tomorrow,
wheel around the turf with the VACUUEA with the vacuum up,
with the vacuumt in front of me. Well, you guys
are wheeling, put the vacuum. We'll kill two birds in
one stone.

Speaker 8 (01:38:36):
We'll chip in for an automatic be able to hits
from the wheelchair.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Don't probably better actually because your lower I mean you
get that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
True hot, little true piece, a little true piece nugget hot.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
Yeah, so yeah, I agree to that. What do you
guys say? Do you guys agree to the pole?

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
I think like everybody sort of answered but didn't answer.
So we're good here, right, we're clear. Great, we all agree,
you disagree, of course, of course, right, yeah, I'll say.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
This right, it can't hurt, right, it can't hurt. We
can't get any worse. Uh, His leadership off the field
will be very very much appreciated and very much help.
I just don't think he's gonna offer on the field alone.
Now you go at him with the Bradley Chubb. Yeah,
now we're talking, right, you go at him him with

(01:39:26):
a Denzel Award. Now we're talking. Think of this move
right in comparison, I think this is like the David
Robertson move for the Phillies, right, doesn't cost see anything like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Punch yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
Anything other than he's over the hill two times Foot
Bowl campion.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
That's your fucking comp is David goddamn Robertson. Yes, not
get off, Not get off like you don't think that
you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
A great But don't cot me David Robertson and Brandon Graham,
please please.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
They're they're they're older, they're older players that Dolan doesn't
cost your money.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Okay, this older player played well again the last year
if we forgot, if we forgot well compared to what
we had, we were playing more snaps, Greg, weren't we
No at.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
The end of the year, we were playing Jane Hunt
and Nolan Smith more.

Speaker 9 (01:40:19):
Because adding Nolan Smith, we haven't seen Nolan Smith play
in weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
If I'm saying, like Brandon Graham alone, I'm disagreeing. If
you add Brandon Graham to other things, Nolan Smith, Bradley
Chubb or a Denzel Ward, I need Bradley Schob was
awesome when he was under and I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:40:41):
Think they're adding anything on. And I think they're desperately
for secondary.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Today. I got and rumor to be interested in him.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
I'm just saying Bradley Schubb was awesome under Vic Fangio
and Denver Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
I'm not against Bradley Tubb here. I'm saying I'll take them.
But but if you gave me, if you gave me Tyreek,
I feel like I'm good enough.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
I don't disagree. I my schecond guy is really good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
And I got enough pass rushers here, Holy shit, I
mean Home were pass rushers.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
You need.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
You need to be able to stuff the damn run.
That's the problem. I don't feel like it's a pass rush.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
You don't stuff the damn run, you end up in
spots where you can't pin your ears back. Right, There's
also we haven't really been in spots where we can
really pin their ears back and go get them either.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
We have a kind of guys who have had over over.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Five sacks, seven sacks, eight sacks on this roster, right,
we have enough of those guys that should be able
to get to the quarterback when you bring Nolan Smith
back too. But I mean, I'll take another one. But
I think our biggest hole is that other corner. That's why, like,
if you if you've made me pick one, I don't know.
I don't think I'm getting both.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
So if you made me.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
Pick yeah, it looks more absolutely, And that's.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Why I agree to the poll because I'm getting two
guys here. I'm getting Nolan Smith and Brandon Graham. And
then if you go get me a corner, I feel good.
I feel good enough. Like I feel good enough. And
sometimes when you win in Super Bowl, you need to
bring in extra stuff from the outside that because you
need to like get a little spark and and and

(01:42:16):
a trade, a trade and a beat and a big
signing can spark you up a little bit. And like
these guys said, leadership, leadership, leadership that is so undervalued
in pro sports for whatever reason, it's not talked about
enough that I think that alone is why I agreed
to it, is why you can just that alone.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
I agreed to the pole. Yeah that's fair. But you're
but you're not. You're not a beg guy. And that's fine.
I know this. It's all about I know you're you know,
I know history. We know this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Well, it looks like you Cory and Bennett could play
either this week or well just to see what we have. Right,
you already made the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
You might.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
You can't get worse.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Right, good.

Speaker 9 (01:43:02):
Good, He's better than Ring. I don't even.

Speaker 13 (01:43:04):
Everybody up though. Addison will carve carve everybody up. If
Bennetts litt Bennett's little asses running around, he'll get carved
up against Jordan Adison too.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
So like, unless it's an upgrade, those two guys will
get their asses carved against really good wide receivers in
this league, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Like, so that's why that's the the upgrade I got,
getting through a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
I got.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
No one's said, to get through a quarterback. I got
Ja Hunter to get through quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
I got Brandon Graham, I got I got enough pass
rushers here that I need to go solve that problem because.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
That was never resolved. Right, There was hopes of like, oh,
maybe this guy can play, maybe a Dory can play.

Speaker 7 (01:43:41):
Maybe ally a slight break because we watched Isaiah Rodgers
has asked cook this past weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
Yeah by A J. Brown. Yeah, Well still like, no,
it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
It wasn't.

Speaker 9 (01:43:52):
No, that's not even like people want to go out
and get like a stud. Darius Slay wasn't Dak rate
last year. I'm like tired of watching guys go out
and that look.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
Out the door. You can't two of them outdoor. That's
all the arguments.

Speaker 9 (01:44:06):
And it's also you can't let your defense take the
field and be like, yo, if we just attack this
out of the field, we're getting something like little Jordan
Humphrey on the New York Giants. I don't know who
the hell he was on Wednesday night. Thursday night, he
looked like Randy Moss and I'm like, what is going on?
What is going on?

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
He's got two each.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
I said, look, this is us from the past, like
some rando will just like look like a superstar, right.

Speaker 9 (01:44:32):
So like you say, like, yeah, Jordan Addison's great and
he'll probably do that against most corners. But I'm just saying,
we go up against anybody and it doesn't matter. It's
they're they're cooking us on that side of the field.
That's where I draw the line. Thirty five got to
get a corner.

Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
Thirty five one Sunday, you can bolt the ass.

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
Wow, yeah, you don't want you want to the rationale
because there is a rationale behind that, that aggressiveness, and
it's it was.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Two weeks ago. Okay, it was two games ago, and
they treated that like a Super Bowl, rightfully.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
So okay, they're coming off a really emotional game, a
really emotional game as a young team, and they're coming
here and we just saw. There're ain't a shot in
hell that they're beating us twice in three weeks. And
if they do, hats off to them, right, seriously, hats
off them. And I will say that and I'll eat

(01:45:22):
these words, and that's fine. It won't be the first
time I'm wrong, right, But it did come on and
it seems who I think they are that. That's a
that's a very quick turnaround revenge game. It turns into
that real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
And your quarterback told you that leaving the field the
other Sunday and didn't hear them. What do you say
we lose it again?

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah that part.

Speaker 9 (01:45:46):
I was just gonna go there to the quarterback got
his swagger back, and he's earned.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
He stell his crew back.

Speaker 9 (01:45:55):
Look at you, girl, but he is the credibile when
he says something like that. You listen, I heard that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
I got all jacked up. And again, we still haven't
seen the best from our running game this year.

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
I haven't seen anything anything.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
We haven't seen anything nothing. And I look at you
look at a game like this, and Tommy, I'm kind
of in your same wing leaked right. You look at
a game like this and what they have to offer
on the outside, and I don't care who we have
lined up, like it's gotta be locked down. Did they

(01:46:37):
have nothing on the Outsideq's gonna take away their best guy,
And any combination of the the Stitch of Us or
whoever they have lined up in uniform has to be
able to lock up the rest of that. Like it's
gotta be bad news for Jackson Dark to try and
throw this week, and I think it will be.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
That's the problem in game one is they they allowed
him to extend stuff to much and then guys come open.
We're not talking about guys that were open within a
two second window. Are you getting the ball out of
your hand in three seconds? We're talking about guys coming
open after five seconds, seven seconds? Right, like, So again,
not easy to not allow him to extend plays because

(01:47:16):
he's good at it, right, like, he is good at it,
but you know you you have to contain him and
try to keep him in the pocket with knowing that
he doesn't have a mok neighbors right, knowing that he
doesn't have that like Greg to your point, any like
true true things of substance. Really outside of the running game,
this is a nut up game, okay exactly? This is

(01:47:39):
how big are your nuts? Jordan Davis and Jailn Carter
and Zac Bawn.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Or Jalen didn't play last week?

Speaker 1 (01:47:48):
Is the nutsack played a half? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
You got your you got your ends beat up when
the run game too, they made you quit, right. We
watched it with her own eyes on Thursday night. That
foot ball team made this football team quit with the
way they're running the football down our throats. There's a
nut up sack up wheelbarrow your nutsack out there. This
is this is big time ship Sunday. All right, this

(01:48:13):
is you know, goodness crazies. You don't even need bullet
more material. You need to go watch your ass and
get whooped the last time you played that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Yet that's all you need to do.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
At the tape I'm watching again. I want to show you, yo,
you quit. Look at you guys, you all quit out there.
As a coach, I want to be able to say
that the grown ans man right then and there, Look
you quit.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
They they they made you do that. Go make go
make their answers quit. Now. Now it's our turn, and
that's your speech. Spin it around, baby hate. I like
I like those players, which sucks, but I hate.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
Those players could on the New York Giants, you understand,
Like I like Jackson Dart, I always have. Like I
like Scatterbo a lot too. But the fact that they're
there now you become enemy number one.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
That this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
All right, I left a cute story first first few weeks.
I'm oh, it's good for Giants fans. Now that you
beat us and now you look to be competitive, you're
now enemy number one. So I'm glad. I'm glad you
enjoyed the basement for a while and all the things
you went through. Welcome to the party. Now now we're
gonna whoop your ass. Let's go now thirty seventeen birds,

(01:49:26):
let's go only the seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Good for you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
I can't get myself there. That was the only problem, Greg,
I couldn't get myself to the under twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Yeah, well I'm thinking Jalen Carter back uh Q for
a whole game, Na, Kobe Dean back? Yeah, like like
all he did was play special teams that week is
met life turf just to destroy his knees? Right, And
so I'm in, I'm all in. Yes, did they sign
Drew Kendall back?

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
It's Cam not playing.

Speaker 4 (01:49:58):
He was a he was he didn't participate in practice today.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
That's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
What does it does not look like he's gonna play
this week?

Speaker 9 (01:50:10):
Yeah, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
Seven and a half forty three and a half.

Speaker 9 (01:50:17):
See, that's the other move that I feel like is underrated, right,
it wouldn't. It would be very how we like for
all of us to be like, we need corner, we
need maybe defensive line, and he goes out and trades
for an offensive lineman.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
I was just gonna say that to you guy. That's
so funny you said that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
I was gonna say, like, you know what funny of
the NFL is is like that the position that isn't
traded for, right because like nobody wants to give up
a good one, Like nobody ever wants to give up
a good one because they're hard to find. But wouldn't
that be awesome if you actually traded for a really
good one? Like you you traded for what was just say,
a right guard?

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Right you traded? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
Yeah, I know, back the turt but like you went
traded for a right guard and he said, we're gonna
and then people are gonna say, how the hell how.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
We do this?

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
Right, Like, how did he do this?

Speaker 4 (01:51:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:51:05):
But then all the people in Philly are gonna be like,
why didn't we get a corner? Why don't we get
a defensive line? And what are we doing? And people like,
why isn't the run game? What's going on with the
run game?

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
Best defense is putting up a forty burger every day?

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
No, don't don't worry. They're all they're all trying. They're
all trying to play psychologist to uh A J. Brown's
tweets and Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
Well, what happens?

Speaker 9 (01:51:26):
What what?

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
What's the best thing for a defense isn't even the
forty points. The best thing for a defense is a running.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Game, because a running game and off the field.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
Yeah, running game keeps them off the field, all right,
And that's the biggest thing for a defense. And the
fact that our running game hasn't been there is what's
hurt his pass rush. It's hurt a lot of things. So,
like I know, we have needs there. We have a
few needs on defense. We have more needs to figure
out how the hell are we going to run the football.
But before we talk about that, guys, give your score predictions.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
Spin them out quick. Let's go thirty one ten birds.

Speaker 9 (01:52:03):
No, it's back, thirty one ten, twenty eight, sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
Yeah, it's say, twenty two, twenty old.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Don't got no cte.

Speaker 7 (01:52:14):
Thirty thirty one, twenty birds at all, thirty one, twenty
sure I know, thirty one twenty love it thirty one, twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Twenty eight, twenty one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
Oh, this is completely back.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Five interface no, it's no, it's not no no, no, no, no,
no no, there's weeks. I agree with that. This can't
be a week we even bring that up.

Speaker 9 (01:52:38):
No, yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
This is a statement game. This is letting you know
who the BT City East is, right, okay, and you're not.
You're not ready yet. You thought you were Thursday night.
You thought for a minute you were ready for this.
You're not ready for this. That's a type of game.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
This has to be right. Like I would love a
Greg Miller like I would love with thirty eight sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:52:59):
It just total ass whooping and us being able to
run the football like that's the problem. I don't know,
and it's upsetting. I don't know what's going on with
this run game. I really don't. And besides, there's nothing
like there's nowhere to run. And part of it is,
I'll say this again, they have to run the other guys, like,

(01:53:21):
please run a j run a guy who will just
run downhill for a second and it's not get you. Yeah, like,
just run him more. It will open up things for
Saint Kwon Barkley, it really will. But they're not doing it.
That's my biggest gripe.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
With them.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
It's like those other guys when they carry the football,
they are getting good. They're getting five yards of carry
as a group, they are. He's the only one averaging three.
I mean, okay, and sample sizes are different, you understand.
But now that you know that, like, give them a
little bit more. That's all I'm saying. Give them a
little bit more, because it's not about who gives you

(01:53:56):
the production. It's about the production. If somebody's given you
five yards a carry, let that person get four more
carries that game, Like, stop being stubborn with it. That's
where that's where I get annoyed, Like like aj Dillon
should have seven to eight carries a game like he
needs to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
He's averaging five yards of carry. Why would will we
not do that?

Speaker 3 (01:54:20):
Like, holy shit, a guy that's came off a monster year.
When a running back comes off a monster year, that
next year is usually a downer year for them. So
why are we trying to change the narrative here? Like
holy shit, are we trying to win or we trying
to make sense? Like are we trying to win or
were trying to please mother?

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
No, We're trying to win and Saquan will say the
same thing. You think his body couldn't use less. Why
does he need more than fifteen touches? Somebody tell me
in October why he needs more than fifteen touches. And
I'm gonna tell you you're an idiot right now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
But he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
He doesn't right now, he doesn't. He doesn't look, he
doesn't look at it. It's it's quick either. He's dancing
too much as well, so again sums on him a lots.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
On the offensive line. Though, let's be clear, so I'm
not putting this on stage.

Speaker 5 (01:55:09):
I saw a video on Twitter. I don't know, obviously,
can't believe everything you see on Twitter, but it was.
It showed a video of Saquon has like a tell,
almost like a picture in baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
He is a tell.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
No, I'm serious. It was actually pretty cool. It was
on when he was running and when it's a pass.
When it's a pass, he scans his head. He goes
left and right and he's scanning the pass protection. He's
picking up who he asked to block, and he's just
looking at every time it's a pass, he's looking left
and he's looking right, and every time it's a run,
his head doesn't move, he's just looking straight.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
As you said in that video. I mean, if I
have the power, maybe we could put it on a
two D radio. I can find it, we can post
it and tell you have one job to do. Now, okay,
you literally have one.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
Job, and your job is for for us to get
that in his face. So now that's our job. This
is a wants watch for you. If you don't know,
we can all throw five dollars in there's a community.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
Boy, just get him on well no, because that how's
that work? Because then we gotta get him.

Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
Get him?

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
Well, what we do we message him? How we message
him from cameo because he's just sending us a video or.

Speaker 5 (01:56:16):
You have to tell him what you want to video
will be about? Be like I want you to read
a two D radios d M. It'll save the season.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Like all right, all right, let's do this. We can
probably get a whole documentary off of this too. I mean,
like us, like like we saved the Eagles season. We
say the Eagles run game. That's what it is now,
the Eagles run game was saved. How Trey Turner was saved.
This is unbelievable. Look at us look at us tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
All right, let's go. I'll pay the money for the cameo.
He's on cameo. I was just an idea. We'll figure
it out, find out, find.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
Out how we're gonna win an Emmy.

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
Win two of them.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
We're going two of them because because the run game
will never stop. Now that would be that would be tricking, guys,
will be Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Well you did see Jalen Rodgers with just a point
on that last play.

Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
You see that.

Speaker 9 (01:57:08):
I didn't see that because the hot route was the
SLA hot.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
Route was pointed at it and made I say it
but more than normal. And that's when the go happened.

Speaker 9 (01:57:20):
He pulled a former teammate move on him.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
If and it felt films picked that up. It was
it was pretty cool to see.

Speaker 9 (01:57:29):
That was really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Yeah, well, Jones the goat at winning.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:57:38):
I'm not gonna tell you Jalones a goat at quarterback either,
Like does that make sense what I'm about to say? Yeah,
Jalones a goat to just win it, Like Jalon wins
when you need it, when you need like that kind
of performance, like we were talking about it. I was
I was like a week late on it right when
I thought he was gonna have like a monster game,
but like he can't. Like we knew it was coming

(01:58:00):
at some point where he was going to spin it
like that, and he just looked locked in like that
was a jail on.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Locked in game, Like I am not allowing Carson Wentz
to beat me, Like that's what that was?

Speaker 8 (01:58:11):
That is it?

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
Absolutely five and two can't go. Can't lose three in
a row if you're trying to be a super Bowl contender.
That's not how super Bowl contenders operate at this point
of the year now, right, So you have to win games,
just a monster win. And it's a big week too,
because you need this week going into your buy.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
You don't want to lose. You don't want two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Of five and three talk right, you want to be
six and two knowing that you're one of the top
seeds in the NFC right now going into your by
all right, Jackson Dart and camp Scattaboo with Boo boo,
all right, Cam scatted Boo boo.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Ain't coming in here and winning a game yet, no shot, and.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
Better be ready to have a big game too, because
I think this run game is close and I think
if you talk about some of the holding penalties that
have brought some some ten yarders back, right, some first
downs back, I think they're close, guys, right already seen
the videos.

Speaker 4 (01:59:13):
Mikey s to him again.

Speaker 5 (01:59:15):
Yeah, I mean, maybe there's another tow we don't know
about because he hasn't even broke a hundred yards yet.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
I'll tell you what though.

Speaker 4 (01:59:22):
I was. I was.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
I was encouraged by some of the adjustments that the
offensive patool made in the rung game on Sunday between
the under center, between the toss to get him outside.

Speaker 9 (01:59:35):
Him outside.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
I was super encouraged. Let's keep let's keep rolling that.

Speaker 9 (01:59:43):
The only time you should ever run in the middle
is to set up the run of the outside like
that's it. It should never consistently go down the middle
like ever.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
If it's if it started three right, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (01:59:58):
Maybe run behind your u massive offensive tackles instead of
your banged up the middle interior of your offensive line.

Speaker 3 (02:00:05):
Yeah, conversation, A J j on has twelve attempts, he's
having five yards of car that's your that's your meat
and potatoes, all right, that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Yeah, that's your meat. Potato guy. Okay, so that's your
that's your that's your hammer, your meat potato.

Speaker 3 (02:00:26):
And then this year you kwan like we talked about, Yeah,
you're gonna run him on the inside sometimes you don't
want to be predictable. But get him out on the
edge a little bit. Let him play around, let him
dance around and make something big happen.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
How about how about it?

Speaker 3 (02:00:40):
You know, how about a screen, a design screen once
in a while, right crazy? Like, I know, we we
love wide receivers. Yeah, we love wide receiver screens and
in the novacare complex. But can we, you know, can
we start to like, you know, get her get a little,
get her lips on a little. I have backscreen to

(02:01:01):
the best, arguably the best running back in football. But
I'll say this, this is the whole problem. Year, the
year after the big year is always down, guys, So
how do you adjust to it?

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
I think less is more.

Speaker 3 (02:01:13):
I think if you're giving twelve to fifteen dutches, that
dude's breaking more touch more than not because he's fresher,
Like this gotta be the year keep him fresh through September, October, November.
And they've done the opposite, which I think they're morons.
I'll be honest with you. I think they're I think
they're absolute morons. I think they are when it comes

(02:01:33):
to this, I think they're not watching the same game
we are.

Speaker 1 (02:01:36):
That's all. I watched other guys run better, get in
another guy's hands a little bit more. That's all you
guys documentary. Oh yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:01:51):
When he was punching the turf, When he was punching
the turf, he's down for the year. I thought he's
down for the year. I said, mother, it's a shoulder injury.

Speaker 1 (02:01:59):
I said, it's this. Okay, we're done. We're done. Yeah,
we're done. Baked. B Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (02:02:10):
I mean making that trade is just proves that they're
not making two trades now, because that was a fifth
round pick that they traded.

Speaker 4 (02:02:18):
I'm pretty sure the eight hundred picks this year trade
as many of them as you want.

Speaker 9 (02:02:22):
Not really, not anymore. They just had a lot of
their own, and then they traded a few. They traded
for Benett, they traded for uh, well.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
Benefit moron. Why would you go to Vegas for a trade.

Speaker 9 (02:02:35):
And now they're going to make another trade and then
at some point now and how he loves to keep
picks because he loves to make those Day three picks,
and he should because he's hitting on a lot of them.
So put yourself in a pretty tough spot.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
You're gotty good to Vegas. Go to Max.

Speaker 3 (02:02:53):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he didn't have an off season. Go
because running backs. Running back seasons are worse because you're
getting smacked around, right, Like you're you, you deal with
the most wear and tear out of everybody. In reality,
you an offensive lineman in defensive lignment, you're probably getting
the most wear.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
And tear out of the whole out of the whole continent.

Speaker 3 (02:03:14):
So running backs, you know, you're getting smacked by three
hundred pound guys all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
That ain't a good time for anybody.

Speaker 3 (02:03:22):
And when you just have that much of a workload
and that deep into a season, it's even more so.
It's not like you said, a great regular season and
you're a first round exit. Right, you had a great
regular season and then you had an entire postseason in
the super Bowl. So that's long, man for a running back,
that's long, and he's nobody's in better shape than he is.

(02:03:42):
But but take it, pull it back a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:03:44):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
I'm not gonna keep going on rampages about it, but
it's right there. So yeah, players of the game, you
just rot off both of ours and get the hell
out of here. But I would say, do we get
the Saquon game? Do we get the big run against

(02:04:07):
his old team?

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
Ayay, this is the game, we get.

Speaker 8 (02:04:09):
It, all right, But man, our offensive line is pretty
beat up right now.

Speaker 3 (02:04:17):
All right, this is the game that goes over one
hundred give me one twenty one, twenty and two toddies.

Speaker 2 (02:04:26):
What makes sense? Because I thought last week was going
to be the Saque game, so I took him with
the DFS and I took him a whole bunch of things.
So it makes sense that I'd be a week off.

Speaker 5 (02:04:35):
Oh, I slammed him last week, him for one hundred
and twenty yards, was like plus twelve hundred.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
Yeah. The turf. The turf enticed me, right, The turf
got my got my loins a little bit. I was like, oh.

Speaker 3 (02:04:50):
Yeah, yeah, one twenty one and defense defense, give me
why now, jos hut last week and I got lucky there.

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
Now we little help, little help for my guy Jayen Carter.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
Yeah, action crushing them. Yeah, absolutely destroyed them. I thought you.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
The slow motion video, I saw that on like Monday.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
That was great?

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
Or did he die?

Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
I want to know what. I want to know what
the ref said to him when he when you when
they came back from from commercial and he's sitting over
and talking to him, like, what did he say? What
did he say? Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
Man, who do I go with? U? I'll give you
Bennett and I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (02:05:31):
Uh oh, give me the guy you said, give me
jail and Carter. Let me get a two SAT game
from jailn Carter. Where's the Jail and Carter game at?
Where's the Saquon game at? And where's the Jalen Carter?
Two guys that have been a little bit on the
milk cart per se terms of in terms of the
production visually right, not like saying they're not like productive

(02:05:54):
players makes.

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
Sense, but like the stat sheets.

Speaker 2 (02:05:58):
But up until up until last week, he didn't seen
Jaalen Carter do anything so far.

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
Well, I thought the risk was a problem. I told you, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
Last week was his best game. He was the most
active last week.

Speaker 1 (02:06:09):
Yeah, so here's the week he gets home. He gets home, right,
he got home last week. But give me. He's got
to be the guy, right, He's the engine that goes
you know what I mean, It starts with a hand.
So we need jail Card have a monster game. Go ahead, boys,
I'm gonna say good.

Speaker 5 (02:06:28):
I mean, Goddard always tears the Giants up, although he
was limited today in practice with another injury, but I
like do.

Speaker 1 (02:06:36):
He tears the Giants off every time we play him.
I don't know why, but I'll take God and defense.
I guess Nakobe Dean coming out for.

Speaker 7 (02:06:48):
I'm gonna go a little off off topic here, a
little out left field.

Speaker 4 (02:06:53):
I'm gonna take the offensive tackles.

Speaker 7 (02:06:55):
I'm gonna take Jordan Malata and Lane Johnson's great. These
guys sit in the edge, you know, because you're the
interior of your offensive lines banged up. You gotta get
them a run game going. Run behind those guys, No,
have them pull in, have them clearing the way out out.

Speaker 4 (02:07:10):
Wide so Sakwon can break a couple of runs, right.
They They gott to force themselves to get that run
game going.

Speaker 7 (02:07:16):
I'm gonna go the opposite there too, with Jordan Davis, right,
I need him to be the run stopper. You can't
let Cam Scattabo do whatever the hell he wants to do.
You need to face plant that dude in the turf
on his first carry of the game and say, Yo,
you're gonna be down here all day.

Speaker 4 (02:07:33):
All right, give me one of those Okay, give me
give me the big boys this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
All right, let's go give me A J. Brown and
Cooper Degene. Oh look what's doing?

Speaker 9 (02:07:47):
I mean I was gonna, I was going Jalen in
Cooper Degen. Cooper Degene has played one bad game in
his entire NFL career so far. It's like, I love
how people say, like Jalen car is definitely our best
defensive player probably right. I mean I would put Cooper
de Gene, as honestly as some might sound crazy, a
close second because he's always around the ball, and as

(02:08:07):
far as my memory goes, I think he's had one
bad game his entire career. Yeah, against Carolina.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
That was it.

Speaker 9 (02:08:16):
And we still won the game, and we get and
we still won the game.

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:08:23):
I think Coop has a I'm gonna go with a
forced fumble.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
I like it.

Speaker 8 (02:08:30):
Yah tackles everybody, So yeah, sure, And A J. Brown
give me, uh, give me two touchdowns again this week
one hundred and forty yards receiving.

Speaker 1 (02:08:47):
Oh kiddy.

Speaker 8 (02:08:51):
I mean our offensive line is a little beat up,
and I don't know, it just seems like they're having
a tough time opening holes for first ain't quiet, but
our past protection has been pretty decent. And uh, I think,
you know, at least as far as last week goes.
Jalen was seeing the field pretty damn well.

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
So was.

Speaker 2 (02:09:12):
I'd say, so, let's hope he can Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
I mean that that dart to daj for the touchdown
down the middle was probably my favorite throw of the game. Yeah,
I mean that was Yeah, that was so well done. Uh, dude,
did you go?

Speaker 9 (02:09:32):
Yeah, Jalen U And.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
I'll do.

Speaker 2 (02:09:40):
The quarterback the quarter No, I know, I can't go
quarterback Davante Davante Davante again.

Speaker 1 (02:09:45):
He kills the giants, he does, and I will go.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
I'll go johat Campbell. I'll go jahat Campbell. I think
he gets a sack and the force fumble.

Speaker 1 (02:09:59):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:01):
I like that in his little hybrid role that he's
that he's kind of playing.

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
Yeah, which is good for us. I think it helps
our pass rush, Like I think that's the addition pass
rush too. So you talking about three guys really that
you can bring back into this pass rush and they
can help us. And that's where the corner comes in,
right or like we were joking earlier, a right guard
definitely look like Stem's better as a backup we as

(02:10:26):
a run as a run protector, a run blocker. I mean,
I think past block in this group does a good job. Man,
Like they did a good job this past week. Like
they do a good job there.

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Yeah, and Minnesota is a defense.

Speaker 1 (02:10:39):
Yeah, they just they just can't. Yah. It's like a
it's like a it's like hitting, it gets contagious. So
like the run game just hasn't got contagious.

Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
And they got to find the way. But listen, great show,
Sixers win. I mean what we got Saturday Charlotte? Uh uh?

Speaker 9 (02:11:01):
Orlando?

Speaker 1 (02:11:02):
I think.

Speaker 3 (02:11:04):
Is it in Orlando because that would be devastating guaranteed. Yeah, Okay,
Now it's home burst Charlotte Saturday. Monday, we're home worsts Orlando.
Then we go to Washington Tuesdays we'll go back to
back there. Then we're then we're we're Solics on Friday,

(02:11:24):
then at Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (02:11:25):
So there's your little there's a little run.

Speaker 9 (02:11:29):
Very reasonable.

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
We'll see. We'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (02:11:36):
One to me four games in, we'll be four games
in by next Wednesday. All right, So next Wednesday we're
gonna have a lot. We're gonna have a lot of sixers,
a breakdown too and.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
Show. Wow. Yeah, well that's if we that's a the
Eagles too, what they need to do?

Speaker 9 (02:11:57):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:11:57):
When?

Speaker 4 (02:11:59):
When is the what? First week in November for Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
all right, okay, I just forgot.

Speaker 9 (02:12:07):
They traded for Fred Johnson too, So there's another guy
they traded for.

Speaker 2 (02:12:12):
Yeah, we're all those were all pre seventh round picks
or yeah, but they were pre season or like right
at the start.

Speaker 9 (02:12:19):
Yeah they were. I'm just saying. I'm just saying they're
not going to make two trades, like, let give me
wall right, give.

Speaker 4 (02:12:27):
Me give me a legit corner.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
Just go give me him, dude.

Speaker 3 (02:12:30):
I watched him the other night in that game, and
he was you know, he made some big time plays
in that game.

Speaker 1 (02:12:35):
He's long and athletic.

Speaker 3 (02:12:36):
Like if somebody's trying to give you a starting corner
in this league for picks, like sign me up.

Speaker 9 (02:12:43):
With Stan why they're trying to get rid of him,
like they're they're a good team, like they're trying to win.
Now what are they doing.

Speaker 2 (02:12:49):
I think it's because he's up. I think it's similar
to like what you know, what you what potentially Trayvon
Walker down in in Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
It's a rental.

Speaker 9 (02:12:59):
That's what bad organizations do. They don't when you when
you finally have a good team, go trade somebody because
because of the contract.

Speaker 3 (02:13:08):
Yeah yeah, Greg, Greg Miller is not even close. He
is the best nickel corner in football. And that's what
we talked about, like you don't move that guy to
the outside, Like your nickel corner is so important in
tackling in the run game has such an impact on
the edges right, and it's like it's such a hard

(02:13:28):
position to cover. So when you have somebody who can
handle you, keep it because it isn't a bad guys
getting catches on you. It's a tackling. It's not letting
in the slot. It's not letting guys break that tackle
and then get chunk plays. And nobody better in the
business and tackling than Cooper there's not.

Speaker 9 (02:13:47):
And you're in the run game too.

Speaker 1 (02:13:48):
Yeah, there's not. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:50):
There's not a corner that tackles better both ways in
Cooper g yep, which is crazy crazy how good he is.

Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
So listen, let's go get a dub and then some
sixers games.

Speaker 3 (02:14:01):
Let's get a little three and one four and oh
talk would be nice, you know, not one and three
by the next time we talk about, Well, a lot
to breakdown, right, We're gonna have a lot to break
down and it's gonna be fun. But boys, great show
like always, love you all for staying tune, whether it's
this long, and we'll see all next Wednesday and me

(02:14:23):
and Grey we'll see a Sunday after a dominant win.
And at the end of that, it's just gotta be
a dump, right, it doesn't mean again. Yeah, I don't
care if it's again. I don't care if you win
by a safety to nothing. Right, Yeah, gave me the
six and two by the bye and everything will be good.

Speaker 1 (02:14:42):
We're out. We love you. Let's play it right after

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