Film Don't Lie presented by A2DRadio Week 9:NFL Trade Deadline AFTERMATH Contenders/Pretenders

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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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I am so excited. We're not gonna be breaking down
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week's episode, we are going to do our We're gonna
do some tiered power rankings. But before we do that,

(01:14):
we are going to break down the biggest trades of
an active NFL trade deadline, which we don't usually see,
but it was pretty crazy. So we're gonna get to
a lot of these trades and then well we'll see
how it affects our power rankings. But tonight it's a boy, Chucks,
it's Pete mister Ogp and our guests over from Eagles

(01:38):
Talk our boy Robert Brinkman A Brinks what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
How are you guys? How are you how you feeling? Uh?
The Eagles probably had like the best bye week ever
in the history of NFL bye weeks because the rest
of the division lost and the Packers loss and the
Lines lost. So we now have the number one seed.
So I'm assuming you guys are flying hi, how are you?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm always flying high. I'm always flying high, Chucks. I
don't get worked up like I used to, and I have.
I still have that reputation, but that's okay. I really
don't get worked up about this. You mellowed out.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Ever since I started doing the show with you, You've
really mellowed out a ton, and I'm like, it impresses me.
I'm like, brings, his brings isn't as overreactionary as he
used to be. It's it's it's like he's turned over
a new leaf.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
So I don't don't get him twisted though. Like it's
in there, it goes, it goes, and it's.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
There, it's still somewhere, still in there's somewhere. I love it.
I love it all right. Well, well, gentlemen, we've got
an action packed show. Like I said, it's this. This
show is probably gonna go a little lengthy, hopefully not
too long, but we definitely want to cover all this
stuff because especially have we had no Eagles talk with
it being the Bible, so we want to cover all
this major news in the NFL going on. So also

(03:02):
if I get a little bit distracted, it's also because
I'm trying to multitask and watch the Flyers game, which
isn't overtime right now, about a minute and a half
left before they go to the shootout. They gave up
a three to nothing first period lead, which always happens
in hockey. The we talked about it before the show.
Worst leader hockey is three nothing first period lead. It's
always almost guaranteed to lose it. So watching the Flyers,

(03:23):
but yeah's let's get into it. Let's open it up
with our own Eagles, because they kind of opened up
the trade deadline with the news breaking early Monday morning.
I remember I was getting Grayson ready for school and
I'm walking up the stairs and I pick up my
phone and there it is trade and I'm like, Howie,

(03:43):
I haven't even had breakfast yet. Come on, So the trade.
The Eagles get edge rusher slash linebacker Jalen Phillips from
the Dolphins, and in it. As part of it, the
Dolphins receive six third round pick, which is the Eagles pick,
not the Jets pick. That's important understanding. So the jetspick

(04:05):
is going to be an early third rounder, so the
Eagles the Eagles pick late third rounder. So that's that's
a big factor. So, uh, why don't you lead it off?
Brings as our guest, Eagles receive Jalen Phillips. What are
your thoughts on the trade? You like, it comes up,
comes down if you want to.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I mean, my overall reaction is Howie Roseman is just relentless.
He's just absolutely relentless. I mean, he leaves no stone unturned.
He leaves it impossible for podcast people like US, messageboard people,
dial radio talk people to question his commitment to winning.

(04:47):
He always pulls the trigger. As far as this goes,
from what I understand, this is pretty much a no
risk trade because if Jalen Phillips leaves the Eagles in
the offseason, and the Eagles are gonna receive some sort
of compensatory pick in return, Now that won't be till
twenty twenty seven, but they already got twenty twenty six picks.

(05:11):
You only have so many draft picks. I mean, it's
good to have them because their gold at this time
of year. But Jalen Phillips, I mean he's torn his
achilles and he's torn as acl so he's damaged goods,
but he has performed his best under Vic Fangio. So

(05:31):
the trade makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
It was an area of need outside of Miles Garrett
and Max Crosby or t J. Watt getting moved out
of the pass rushers from the edge. I mean maybe
you could say trade Henderson a little bit, maybe right now,
short term maybe slightly better, but to get familiarity with
Vic already in evic system, former first round pick out

(06:02):
of Florida State, twenty six years old man, and he's
he's still in his first contract, going on to the
second contract. This is a type of move that can
kind of put the team over the top, especially on
the defensive side. Very a lot of similar traits in
body style, draft pedigree, in history to someone we let

(06:27):
walk this past offseason, Allah our.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Son Josh Sweat.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Our Son, Josh Sweat, Yes.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Definitely a lanky body, definitely brings a different set of
skills to the to the defensive end room and you
gave up your pick, so the better the two third
round picks that you did have you didn't use for
this particular trade, So kudos to how I would just
say that we kind of started this Saturday night with

(06:56):
the giant Alexander trade and and that's another look that's
put down. I know you're not the biggest family is
as far as what they gave up to. If he
can give you anything, Yeah, that's definitely gonna be another
upside trade as well.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, well, I mean it's I didn't want to include
because you had, Yeah, you had the Dire trade. You
also had the Michael Carter trade before that. So like
you have which which which? Like if you were to
ask me, like which which one is going to be
more impactful, I'd say the Michael Carter trade could be
more impactful. But at the same time, I'm also not

(07:36):
like the issue with that is that he's a slot
corner and I personally I prefer not to move Cooper outside,
So I don't I don't know what exactly the plan
is if you If I were to guess with Michael Carter,
is that he's here as another option I think, and

(07:59):
I This is how I prefer it. I think the
plan is to still see what Jacorey and Bennett can
do on the outside. If he can take that job
as he comes back from off I R. So if
he can be that outside guy, and if that doesn't
work out, then yeah, they're gonna start looking at options
of getting what's getting Cooper Degene on the outside in

(08:23):
some instances and then having Carter filling in the slot.
So like, it just gives you more options just in
case it doesn't work out. That would be my best,
My best guess with Gaiere I've been. It hurts me
to say it because I've been a big Jay Alexander
fan since since the draft. In that draft class, he
wasn't my CV one. So I loved Gay Alexander since

(08:46):
he came in the in the came into the league.
But he's not what he was and he's always hurt,
and he was really bad in the two games he
played for for Baltimore this year. So like becomes in
and do I hope he could contribute, sure, but I
like the way I see it, He's just another Doory

(09:07):
like a vet and if you can, if you need
him to play some snaps Shore if he brings anything cool.
But I wouldn't bet on him getting that starting job,
even though I would love to, and I'd love for
him to prove me wrong, because again I'm a fan.
I just I don't I don't know how impactful that.
You know, that acquisition is gonna be as far as

(09:29):
the Jalen Phillips trade, though, like I I I mentioned
him as a guy that I would target. I think
about like a few weeks ago, I had said, like
if the Dobbins are going to be in a fire
sale or if they're gonna be sellers, get Jalen Phillips.
You know, I prefer him over over Nick Chubb. Now,
like he he hasn't been the same guy since he

(09:50):
got hurt. Especially earlier in the season. He wasn't you know,
he really wasn't playing well. He has played better as
of late. You know. I I talked to my friend
on Twitter Egles Eric a lot of times, and he
gave like a quickly evil of him. Like with with Phillips,
he has an explosive get off, explosive get off. He
has really good pursuit speed. He's really good rushing inside

(10:13):
and using him on stunts and inside counters. So you know,
you could do a lot of stuff with him and
Jalen Carter, that would be that'd be a lot of
fun to see. He he does, he is a little
bit of upright. His hand usage is isn't great.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
His his feet the power isn't great.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
And again like he doesn't really bend as he doesn't
have as much bend as a rusher now as he
did pre injury. So again like he's not the same
like when he came out before the injuries, he was like,
you know, he could he could be like a star
ed rusher. With all the injuries he's had, can't really
be that anymore, but he could still be really good.

(10:55):
And obviously he comes in. I definitely say he's the
best ed rusher we have now on this. So it's
it's it's a really good trade. You know. There's you
said like I know brings. You said like no risk.
I think whenever you do involve a Day two pick,
there is some risk on it. But so I'd say
it's like a medium risk. I'd say that the risk

(11:15):
is medium and the thing but the thing is it's
worth it because the payoff for it could be really good,
Like if he does really well for you this year
and helps you get to the super Bowl and repeat,
of course it's a win. It's amazing, you know, turn around,
and then if he leaves the free agency, yeah you

(11:36):
get the future compic depending on what he gets. But
if he doesn't play well, then yeah, that's that's that's
an issue.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
So I heard this today to where they said, if
he plays well and they offer him extension, does that
mean they're not going to offer Dolan Smith extension?

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I don't think so. I think Nolan Smith is it's
gonna I think that's that's why I think it's very
unlikely they they extend him. I do think he's a
mental regardless because I think that like there's just you
want to prioritize your in house guys regardless. And I

(12:13):
don't know. If Phillips plays well, which we hope he does,
I just don't think we're gonna have the finances to
extend him. So I think they'll The chances are slim,
But I mean, if anyone can make it work, it's
Howie so who knows. Who knows? But yeah, it breaks.
I don't know. What do you think is like the
chances of the egles extending.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Him minimal minimal. Yeah, yeah, he would have to really
be a beast.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And be like a locker room like Favorite where Vick
is like I can't.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Get Yeah, something special would have to happen because I mean,
how he knows what he's doing. He sees all the angles,
Like he said, I have another twenty twenty six picks.
All right, I'll take this guy for this, and you
still have a third round pick and the Jets pick,
which it's gonna be the first or second pick, probably
in the third round, and then you know, you kick

(13:08):
that can down the road to twenty twenty seven. Because
I suppose I don't really know how the ndatory picks work.
I suppose, like how much money he gets on the
open market is based.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
On that that goes into a I'm mistaken.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I was thinking of Jermaine Johnson out of Florida State
Jaalen Phillips came out of UCLA. But no, that that
the deal that he gets definitely does play into the
comp formula. Yeah, so depending on so I mean, and
that's the one thing I will say about the trade,
not just for the fact of.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
From our side, is it worth it? Right? But he
knows this as well as we know.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Like now he's on the team that has a bigger platform,
that has Super Bowl aspirations. This is a like, regardless
of where he goes, if he stays with us, if
whatever type of deal, if he balls out, he's gonna
make himself a lot of money, a lot of money.
So he has just as much skin in the game
as we do. Right, He wants to see and he

(14:10):
wants to put his best before just as much as
we do because as an organization, because of the fact
that he's he knows like this is it, like this
is his biggest deal that he'll get, Like you can
only cast these chips in this one time and then
and that's what he's gonna be banking on.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, what I'm just gonna agree any other any last
final thoughts on Jalen Phillips before we add to the
next three. Good? All right, So the next one we
had was the first one of today that broke the news.
Receiver help for the Jacksonville Jaguars. They get Jakobe marsh
who's been wanting a trade since like before the season started.

(14:50):
He's been asking for one. He gets his wish he
goes to the Jaguars. The Raiders receive a twenty twenty
six fourth and sixth round pick. This At first glance,
you see this like they need another receiver, but then
you realize Travers Hunt, Travis Hunter's on I R and
Brian Thomas Junior is nursing. I believe it's a high
ankle spree. So the Jaguars being somewhat in that, like

(15:16):
that playoff mix, the wild card or even like the
division mix, the division title mix, they need reinforcements, so
they get Jacobe Myers. I get that, and I think
it's a fourth and a sixth. It's a little rich
for me, but I get it. So like you got
to pay the price if you're that desperate. So I

(15:38):
understand it, and that like, I now what happens once
Travis Hunter and uh, we'll just face Johns, Hunter and
Bright come back, Like, all right, so you got three
really good receivers. Cool. I just I don't know how's
that gonna work. But I mean, I guess you can't
have enough good receivers on the field. But your your.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Thoughts on this, I think I echo your settlement, right,
I see the fourth and sixth round picks some like
for Jacobi Mars, but that's indicative of the current landscape
of that wide receiver room and then where their season
is headed. They want to make sure that they can
get as far in this seasons as they can and
they see opportunity to capitalize on a wild corpetition, if

(16:18):
not the division crown and it's I think you could
have got it done for six kudos to kudos to
Vegas forgetting the extra conversation, the extra capital. I think
it's a little bit of an overpay, but once again,
it's what are you doing now compared to what are
you going to try it out there in the field.
You know, you got Jay Jones Jones and Diami Brown.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I have Parker Washington, partner would have been your your
number one, and they still don't remember they don't have Britain.
Strange too, they're starting tight end who was a key
cog for that offense and he's he's on my so like, yeah,
they they're they're hurting for for talent. So again I
get it brings your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Breadth of fresh air when it comes to fantasy football. Yeah,
I got Jacob Jacoby Myers for like four or five
Bucks in my auction draft, and I thought I got
to steal and he's been nothing but a dud and
the Raiders, the Raiders think so, and the Jags they
have they've really taken control of the a FC South,
which I'm sure we'll talk about later. So hopefully it

(17:26):
works out for Jacoby Myers fantasy owners. Yeah, I recorded
the show before I did my waiver claims for that
league because I've been so pissed off at this guy.
I'm ready to drop him, but I guess I gotta
give him. I gotta give him, you know, a couple
more week, a couple more weeks, a couple more weeks.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, depending on how long Brian Thomas Junior is or
even if when he comes back, they still need two
wide receivers. I mean, yeah, he's he's gonna be productive
because the Jaguars have no choice. So yeah, the quick,
that's the quickievillu on that all right. So after that trade,
this was the big one. This is where everyone was like,

(18:08):
oh oh oh oh. So the Jets start their fire sale.
They send their corner Sauce Gardner, who just received an extension,
over to the Colts, and the Jets received a twenty
twenty six first round pick, a twenty twenty seven first

(18:30):
round pick and wide receiver at Ni mitchell a d
Mitchell Pete. Remember we talked about him picking the doghouse.
They shipped him out. He was the odd man out
and he's out of there. He goes to the Jets
for a change of scenery. Um I I saw this
and was floored because I don't think anyone expected this

(18:53):
to happen, considering Sauce just signed that new deal. Uh.
But like I know, a lot of people, a lot
of people were like, that's an overpay, that's an overpay.
I don't think it's an overpay because the Colts are
in they're trying to win. Now, they're one of the

(19:13):
better teams in the AFC. We'll talk about them, I'm
sure in our power rankings. And they're trying to win,
and they needed a corner they don't they didn't have
like Tavarious Award is hurt, so they needed a corner
they could rely on to be their CV one. So
this really helps that defense short up and lou Ana

(19:34):
Romo is gonna have a really, really, really good time.
He gives them, This gives them more flexibility to play
a little bit more man coverage than they had before.
And you know this impacts that one side of the field.
Now he doesn't have to worry about that. So I
Sauce hasn't been what he what he was before, but
he hasn't been bad, and you would think that a

(19:55):
change of scenery might help, might help. So uh pete
thoughts on this this one.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
If I'm the Jets, I would have asked for Anthony
Richardson as well. Just hey, Roswell shoots your shot. That's
a good Pointswell shoots your shot. And I think the
Colts probably would have entertained it because if they could
have got give a one first round pick, especially if
it's twenty twenty seven, and you.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Give up Anthony Richardster for Sauce Gardner.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
It's weird because Sauce is in New York and I
know obviously big primetime market.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I haven't watched a lot of his games this year.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
But you get a young corner, above average to elite
who's already under control. You don't have to worry about
sign him to a new contract. Like you stated, I
think they're seven and two now, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
The Colts. I think they had two losses.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
So they lost that. They had the loss to the
Rams and the loss to the Steelers this past weekend.
So I don't there's six two or seven and two.
I want to say seven and.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Two they are, but they're still first on the AFC
South they are. I can't find the record hold on.
Their record is seven and two.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, so they have their by. They're probably one of
the last ones and on the by. I love it
for them. Lou on the rumor, I already showed you
when he took that that Bengals defense to the Super
Bowl and beat it. Chiefs Like, this is a guy
who's done a lot with less than a less than
elite talent across the across the board, just solid talent

(21:36):
across the board. Now you give him something like this
to where he has a tool that can be elite, right,
and this is a re re energizing sauce. Definitely change
the pace for him going to a team that's a contender.
And then when Travarious war comes back, I mean, that's
a decent one to combo as far as your cornerback.
So uh definitely helps the secondary to restaurant picks is

(22:01):
a I mean you say it's a.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Lot, but.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't think the.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Top five pick.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I think it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
I mean for what for where they're at and the
opportunity that they have. We talked about this on last
week two weeks ago, like, are the coach for real?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
We really don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
We're looking at their schedule and I said, week twelve,
they play the Chiefs, right, and then I think they
have another game where they play the Bills, and maybe
if they had Saust guarded when they play the Steelers
at Pittsburgh, that man made a difference. Now you feel
you feel better about this team playing the upper echelon

(22:49):
of talent in the AFC Conference and hopefully haven't in
their eyes, a legit shot to potentially make it, to
make it, take a deep playoff runt and play and
be playing in one of the last four, one of
the last four teams two weeks for the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
This helps them do that.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
And I don't know what first round pick in twenty
twenty six or twenty twenty seven that would have given
them that. And then also with the control coach, because
this isn't unlike Jalen Phillips This isn't a rental, Like
he's going to be a part of their future, on
the cornerstone of their defense, moving fears. So when you

(23:29):
take that into an account, I would I've rather been
more comfortable giving up one first round pick versus two.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Obviously, obviously you want to feel like you're getting a deal.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
But when you look at it like that, where you
have a top three, top four corner of the league
under the age of thirty and they already are under contract,
you couldn't get that without taking a huge risk on
either one of these picks. So you went and got
the short thing.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
So, yeah, you said you you said you think.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I don't know, Like, obviously, this guy, I think he
was the fourth pick in the draft when he came out. Obviously,
corner is a really hard position to play. But his
his better years were in his first two seasons and
then he kind of dipped off. Now that he dip
off because the Jets sucked and he's disinterested. Now he's

(24:24):
gonna be reinvigorated because he's on a good time. I
don't know, But I don't know. A guy who checks
out because he's on a bad team strikes me as
as not a professional and I would not give up
two first round picks for that.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
And with that being said, I'm still shocked at the
Coat still have one of those guys that you just
talked about still on their roster, Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, but nobody wants him the Jets. Probably even the
Jets thinks, dude, he wasn't even good at Florida and
the Colts picked third.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
He was drafted, he was, he is on the track
right now to be the Mike Mike Mamula of QB
draft prospects.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
What's crazy? You know, Like the first his first few
games of his rookie year, he was, he was pretty good, good,
He got off to a good start before getting hurt,
and after that it was just like, I don't know
where that went. But I mean with Sauce, I'll say
this because I did. There are you know, his his
next gen stats where you know, are are are out there,

(25:33):
people are you know, highlighting them to see exactly how
he's dropped off and he sent this season, He's surrendering
a completion percentage of eleven point one percent over expectation
and a passer rating of one hundred and eighteen point
eight when targeted, so that's not good. But in terms
of actual coverage, he's still forcing tight windows. Uh, the

(25:57):
sixty one point nine percent of his targets have our
tight window, so the bulk of his of his coverages,
and like, you know, there's still like very he's still
right there, and you know the flaws with him. I'm
sure everyone knows, like he's he's a very physical and
grabby receiver, so he's gonna drop pennties, but like he's
still a really good corner. And if you're the Cults

(26:18):
trying to capitalize on this window, I understand it. I
definitely understand it. So I have no problem with the trade.
I get it from their side. I want to save
the Jets angle for after retouch on the other trade
they made, so we'll hold off on the Jets angle.
Let's go over to my favorite trade of the day,

(26:42):
which was wide receiver Rashid Shaheed of the Saints being
traded to the Seahawks, which was a surprise because I
did not expect them to get him. But then he
goes to the Seahawks and the Saints in return receive
a twenty twenty six fourth and fifth round pick, So

(27:04):
fourth and fifth round picks, so I could have sworn.
I swore that if he was gonna go to it
would have been to the Patriots or the Bills. Did
not expect the Seahawks. I love this trade. I think
this what this does is it gives the Seahawks a
legitimate wide receiver too. I love Tory Horton, so I

(27:28):
get that. But I think now you have the ability
adds the Seahawks to go more eleven personnel, and I mean,
like with Shahit and his his speed, it gives you
another threat when you're understanding and you're running those play
actions stuff, to really have another defense off of that,
to build off of that. But then you know, with

(27:48):
the Seahawks, they they really kind of were they they
they they rely on a lot of twelve personnel heavy
you know, heavy packages and rely on the defense showing
base defense. But when the other opposing defenses are in
sub packages and the Seahawks go to eleven, they really don't.

(28:12):
They're really not threatening that way. Defenses don't really threaten them,
and they you know, I need stat that I saw
is that like they an eleven personnel, they face a
light box at the at a below average rate. So
in eleven personnel, the defenses are stacking the box against
them and that's affecting the running game. But now if
you go eleven personnel and you have JSN, you have

(28:32):
Rashid Shaheed, and you have Tory Horton, the defense can't
really go and stack the box as often. So that
should help their running game, which hasn't been great. So
I think this is a great trade for the Seahawks.
You know, a fourth and a fifth is not a
lot for the caliber or receiver Rashid Shahiita. So again,

(28:53):
I love this trade brings. What's your reaction to this
to Shihat going to the Seahawks?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
They loaded man, they're loading up. I mean, I know
you're talking about Rashid to he right now, but just
JSN is on pace for one hundred and twenty three catches,
over two thousand yards receiving, and nine touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
So you got the alpha on the outside inside outside.
That guy can do it all. He's welcome to the party. JSN.
Now you got Horton, he had two touchdowns on Sunday night,
and now you just supplement that. I mean, you think
you thought of like you think of Seattle, you think

(29:39):
of like not dynamic Sam Darnold. Now you got JSN
Shaheed Horton, two good running backs, a good defense, like
they're loading up. They went for it. I did think
the Jakobi Meyers trade was overpay for the Jaguars. I

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don't think this is an overpay at all for the
Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Immediately when I looked at this trade, I was like,
all right, that's that's their young Tyler Lockett.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
How time used to, used to used to really yep,
and that's what he does.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
So that adds a different element to the game. So
the other person that benefits is once they get healthy,
is going to be peopled up. Now all that underneath
and those routes there, those cross routes that he that
he's been so accustomed running when he was with the Rams,
Now this makes that a little bit easier because the
spacing is going to be better now for them.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
The spacing is going to be better now for Knin.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
This space is going to be better for Charay, and
the space is gonna better for Sam Darnold.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Very smart move for them to make this move.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I think his contract situation is But this once again,
this also feels like this is a move not just
for this year, for the remaining nine or eight games
that they have left, but also for next season at
least as well.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, I think they might know something about Cooper Cups
injury good. Maybe the general public does not know they
gave Cooper Cups some money.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
And I know he's always had a problem with his
ankles and when he was with l.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
A, he's got I think it said hamstring. He was out,
so who knows. Who knows what's going to happen with that.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, I'm trying to look like it doesn't say but
I mean like he wasn't. He didn't really have much
of an impact so far. But the Seahawks that's why,
like I do think Horton should be the wide receiver
three for them. Cup you can sprinkle in because like
Cup can still block, so I mean like you can
on certain packages in certain sets you can have them

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come in and still contribute. But I think in terms
of being an actual weapon or is and should be
the guy over him. So I I really think that
it just makes them even more dynamic and it's going
to be a lot of fun to see how.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
They do this.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
And they think about Clint Kubiak, guys, and how Klin
Kubiak was with the same and remember what he did
with Clint Kubiak. He that's where she heat really broke out.
So awesome marriage. Here just again my favorite trade of
the trade deadline outside obviously with the Eagles. But I mean,

(32:23):
this is just this is gonna be a lot of
fun to see for the Seahawks. So let's get to
the final trade, and I'm sure we have a lot
to say about this one. The Cowboys. As Barry Jones
said yesterday, he said that he he talked and he

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couldn't help himself. He alluded to a big trade, and
it was a big trade to the Cowboys. They receive
Quinn Williams, the defensive tackle interior defensive lineman Quinn Williams
from the Jets, and the Jets six second round pick,
twenty twenty seven first round pick the higher of the pick,

(33:09):
whichever two, and then defensive tackle Maji Smith. Uh pete.
I'll let you start this one off.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
So they also made another a more sensible trade when
they traded for Logan Wilson. I think that they traded
like a seventh or a sixth linebacker out of Cincinnati.
That's okay, that's a value for trade.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
He was benched. He was getting benched on the right, he.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Wasn't really, but I mean for the Cowboys, all right,
he didn't stake a lot like how we look at
Jalen Phillips.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Right, Obviously two different things, but it's like kind of
low risk.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Maybe you can get something out of a high reward.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
This here is just like growing as a great player.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
It's a great player, but it's mind boggling because of
what led you to this point.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Right. I love it from the Jets.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Side, when you especially when you accompassed what they got
from the Colts, right, I mean they drafted well, they
couldn't put a team together. Now they have more proverbial
bullets in the chamber to kind of.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Go at it.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
And and I think Quinn did he just signed an
extension too?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh not just he signed one. Was it a year
or two ago?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
It was two years ago.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I think this is just like, hey, Jerry, you wanted
to this, you had you had an impactful player on
your team already from the defensive side that probably was
more explosive than Quinn Williams.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I believe he decided not to pay the man. So
like you're only in this position because of your.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Own stubbornness ego trying to trying to say face, I
did not I did not have it on my Bengo.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
And we'll get into this when we talk about the regulars.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I have my Beingo card for the Cardinals to kind
of manhandle with Jacobe Rise, the manhandler Cowboys on Monday
night football in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
That's what happens with your defense? Is that bad you
talk about We talked about the just the Micah factor
in Aluin. It's so counterintuitive brings after this. You can
give your your two cents. But Greg Rosenthal tweeted this out.

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Cowboys essentially traded Micah and Mazzie Smith for Quinn Williams
Kenny Clark and to move back fifteen to twenty spots
in the twenty twenty sixth first round. So you traded
away the better player, dude for a downgrade. Still a
great player, but you know Quinn Williams is not Michael
Parsons and you moved back. That's the net result of

(35:58):
everything you moved back in twenty twenty six first round. Yeah,
so it's it is kind of it's backwards, so brings
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, I mean f minuses for both Cowboys trades. I
mean the other trade. I don't care how much you
gave up. Like you you you're trying to improve your
defense with a linebacker who got benched on the only
defense in the league that's worse than yours. So good one, Jerry,

(36:32):
really really you got the insider on that one. I guess.
I don't get I don't get it. And Quinn Williams,
I mean, what is he? He came out of Alabama
or Georgia. I think it was Alabama Alabama, and he's
another guy like Sauce Gardner, like hits the ground running

(36:54):
when they're like, he was really good, then he signed
his extension and now he's a back at So now
you're giving up two premium draft picks. Mase Smith, I
know he was. I believe he was a first round
pick if he wasn't the first round pick, late first
round pick for the Dallas Cowboys out of Michigan. So like,

(37:17):
I don't get it, Like you won't you give up
an edge rusher, which is a premium position, and you're
obsessed with accumulating D tackles.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yeah, like, I.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Hope the guy lives forever. I hope the guy lives forever. Yeah,
I mean I don't have ESPN right now. So I
did my because YouTube, because these screaming streaming services, and
there are a bunch of Yeah, there are a bunch
of scumbags. There are a bunch of scumbags. But yeah,
I did this when I was supposed to be watching
the Dallas Arizona game. I did my thing here and

(37:50):
I saw the trades today and I didn't bump Dallas
down a tier, but I bumped them down almost a tier. Okay,
But I mean just it's yeah, I don't I don't
understand it. I don't understand it. Where is Stephen Jones.
When Stephen Jones was making the draft picks for that team,

(38:12):
they were making at least competent decisions. Now now Jerry's
back in charge, it seems, and and he just he
just does stuff. He just does stuff. Yeah, Like he
just does It's like he doesn't even talk. I feel

(38:32):
like Steven like finds out about the trade we do
and and he calls is that, like why did you
do that?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Like it's almost like when you walk in your kitchen.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
It's like, ah, this car.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Maybe I just want a new coffee maker, right, and
just for the sake of one and one for but
for Jerry.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
That's trading players.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
I just want to want like there's no rhyme or
reason you traded, and you just traded in the trade
and I kind of get it, but like these are
the trades that you should have made two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
It's like when it's like when when the females they
want to redecorate, when it's fine, like we're good, right,
like here, like we got everything. It's kind of new.
I know it's not rand new, but like we're good.
Like we're just gonna add some paint here, maybe a

(39:28):
carpet there, and we'll be good. Not tear down the
whole thing and start all over.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Right, No, it's crazy. I just I don't just move,
Just move if you want to do that. It's so
it's crazy. It's just I they they they essentially gave
they there pain. Now they're paying quinin Quentin the similar

(39:55):
financials that they would have paid Mica anyway, maybe not
the same exact, but I mean, like it's just you're
going around in circles and and the end result is
worse than where you were before, all because of ego.
It's absolutely it's mind boggling the thought process of Jerry
Jones has But I mean, hey, it's is what it
is now. Except before we wrap up our trade deadline

(40:19):
recap and reactions, we have to talk about the Jet side.
So they get these these picks from both trades, and
I think I have it here. What the accumulation of
all them is?

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah, the first round twenty six, two second round in
twenty twenty six, then two first rounds and twenty three.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
I like, what does it matter what they have? They're
going to screw it up?

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well, I mean, like they they didn't screw it up
with with Sauce and what does we so, I mean
like they made.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
The way, they didn't screw it up.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
I mean they think, well, the picks well themselves when
they made Yeah, when they took Sauce and they took
Garrett Wilson, they those players fromed out really good.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
So the picks themselves were fine. And that was that
was also like the previous regime. So this is the regime.
I was talking to my friend who was a big
Jets fan about it, and like, I'm trying to talk
him off the ledge a little bit because and I
told him, like, I understand that after years and years
and years of misery, I get it. I understand why
you're skeptical. But like, let's take a step back and

(41:29):
look at this. If this, if these defensive players were
not producing the same way years prior with this regime,
you trade them away and you get the haul that
you did. Now you are loaded with draft assets to rebuild, right,
I understand it. I I don't again whether they it

(41:50):
remains to be seen whether they're gonna mess that those
picks up or not. Like it absolutely remains to be seen.
But from a process standpoint, if you're looking to rebuild
like that, I think this is a good haul for
the Jets. They are now. Also keep in mind this,
they could be positioning themselves to move up to get

(42:11):
a quarterback either this year or the year after or
and even hey, like they might even try to get
Jeremiah Smith. The wide receiver was going to come out
in twenty twenty seven. So I mean it's they are
positioning themselves well for the future. And it sucks letting
go of Sauce and Quinnin, but the return they got

(42:36):
was good. I think it was a good return, and
I think they're they want to rebuild. So far, I
think I get it. I see the vision here. But
Pete like, well, what do you think? Like did you
of the Jets?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
What I had kind of hit on that first when
I was moving was evaluating this trade, like the players
are right, the execution after you had the.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Talent, let's flawed. It's like one of those things.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Okay, you know you got this right, and at least
you have assets in your If you have assets that
you have that you.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Can turn into something else and try again. Right.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
And then because there are our teams out there who
have contributed top ten picks, I lie, Anthony Richardson, and
they don't have any value around the league, right, So
at least these guys that you had have value. And
and also the other side of this corn is you
get this money off your books. So this this doesn't
free you up from a draft capital perspective, but this

(43:35):
frees you up from a free agency perspective. Now you
just have to you have to rebuild it. You just
gotta you got another chance, right, don't.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Up this time? Yep?

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Absolutely, And you have two teams in your division who
are batted out for first place, Like, so you like, well,
we've always said, and you have a big opponent, is
rip the band aid off. Let's not tread water here,
Let's not live in purgatory here, which they could have done.
And they said, okay, well, hey, we drafted you. We

(44:08):
thought you guys are going be homegoing guys, we failed you.
Here goes a chance to get for a better opportunity
and then we'll try again.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
They want to get the timing right. And I will
say though, the only thing I didn't agree with was
that a while the Bulls came back and beat the
six Ers.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Jeez wow, another team that can never get it right.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
I mean, Maxie's Maxie is awesome to say, but we'll
see it. But anyways, the one thing I did disagree with,
if they're going to go this route, they should have
just they should have just traded Breeze Hall. I don't
understand the mindset of keeping on to him when he's
going to be a free agent. Trade him. You would
have gotten something, So I don't. I don't get it.

(44:55):
And Berice wanted to be traded. He kept saying it.
And he's still in New York. So I don't. I
don't understand thee keeping Garrett Wilson. I get because wide
receivers all obviously they they last a long time. So
Garrett Wilson can be here for your for your rebuild
and still be an elite receiver. So I understand hang
on to him. But Breese Hall, like, are you gonna

(45:17):
pay him? You're gonna pay Breese All? It doesn't seem
like it, So why not just trade him? So that
part I didn't agree with. They should have traded him.
But other than that, yeah, I think they're They're good.
Here uh any final thoughts on on the Jets.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
We've spent way too much of this. I'm just talking
about the Jets.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
The Jets.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Can anybody look me in the face out there, either
you two or someone in the comments that has confidence
that the Jets are gonna dominate this rebuild and be
a winner something?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
No, but it's a good start.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I don't. I'm sure a lot of Jets fans, at
least the ones that I'm friends with, they agree with you.
They have no confidence that they're gonna get this right.
But you know, as as people that don't have stake
in that game. You know, we so far, so good
for them. So I get it from that. All right,
So that's the trade deadline recap. Now let's get to

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the big picture in terms of the league.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
All right.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Now, let's get into our power rankings. If you're listening in,
we're going to power rank the all thirty two NFL teams,
but we're going to tier them. We're not gonna just
go linear and go one to thirty two like every
other side does. Let's let's make this interesting, and I'm
not gonna lie. I got this idea from the Athletic

(46:36):
Football Podcast which they did the you know, you know,
similar tiers, and I was like, this is a great
idea because, like, you know, tearing them off, you can
see like where where things are. I also ranked them
within the tier. If you guys didn't, that's fine, but
I'm excited to see where you guys have you know,
these teams and cervaeties, especially the first three tiers. So

(46:57):
our first tier, we're gonna kick it off with the
top of the list. Obviously Tier one is super Bowl
or bust. So these are the teams. The way I
looked at it, I approached it is These are the
these are the contenders. These are the true teams that
can win the Super Bowl this year, that have a legitimate,
like the best chances out of all teams to win

(47:20):
the Super Bowl this year. All right, so brings, Why
don't you started off then this?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
What?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
How say how many teams you have? And then go
ahead and list the teams in this year?

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Okay, I have eight teams and I have them. I
have a one through list like you do. So I
have eight teams in this Super Bowl or bust list.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Okay, cool, Well what are the teams? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, good.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
I think Denver's the best team in the league. What
they're number one? I mean they have a Super Bowl
winning coach, They have a playmaking quarterback. He needs to
get a little better pure throwing the football, but I
think that'll come. Josh Allen's not a pure throw of
the football. He's doing just fine. Basically. The only reason

(48:12):
I have number two and not number one is because
a couple of weeks ago, the Denver Broncos came into
the Lincoln Financial Field and they beat the Philadelphia Eagles.
So I have the Eagles number two as the clear
and away after what happened this weekend. Top team in
the NFC, number three, Buffalo. Okay, they yesterday, that's a

(48:38):
good win. I mean they really just lost a touch
and go game at home against the Patriots, who are
a good team, not a black. I can't recall their
second loss right now. I feel like it was a
bad one, though, I don't know. Well, uh, Buffalo, they

(49:02):
have two lots. I know they lost in New England the.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Falcons, right they got which talk about team ahead.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah, but number four, I don't care that they lost yesterday.
I have the Lions, number four, the second best team
in the NFC. Number five. I don't care that they
lost the Bills yesterday. I have the Chiefs number five.
Seattle's here, they're in this conversation.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
I'm happy of that.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yeah, I have them slightly over the Rams who are
number seven. They still have to play twice though, and
they're both really good teams, so that'll work itself out.
And in my eighteen, this is probably gonna meet some resistance,
but the Ravens are gonna win the North, and I
think the Ravens are gonna be a tough out.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
And that trade that they made, the safety they acquire
from the Chargers is going to flee up Kyle Hamilton
to get back to his natural position, So the defense
should start to be a little tighter on the back
end additionship with subtraction for Alexander. So I'm not too
mad that I like trying to think up because I
didn't tear them. As far as like a numberless one overall,

(50:11):
I liked that eight. As far as Super Bowl bust,
I would also probably put I would add to that
and put the Packers in there because of the trade
they made for Michael Parsons. When you make a trade
like that and you give up that much capital, you're
not doing that for the sake of Okay, yeah, we

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want to win a division like you have Super Bowl aspirations.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
At that point.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
So I would just add that. But I'm cool with
that nine power ranking them wise. If I'm doing it like,
I probably would still put the Eagles one. I just
think Denver caught them slipping at a bad time. I
think if they played each other now, I'll probably take
the Eagles my minus five.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
And a half.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
And I would feel comfortable about that. And then at two.
But that's tough, man, because I need to see Denver
play the Chiefs. The Chiefs are starting to come around.
It's really a week to week matchup because, like Chucks
is said, with Jack o'high, like we had Atlantola like
and it was a real team and then they haven't

(51:15):
done shit since nowhere near the top. But I would
say I probably put Buffalo to Denver Denver four.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
It's just gonna sound crazy, but I've been saying this
all year. My MVP candidate, if I'm giving one right now,
is Indiana Jones Man. Now, especially with the sauce guard
the trade, I gotta put the coach in the top five.
Got to because they got an offense Shane Stike, and
it's a mad scientist. They can put up points and

(51:53):
now you got tough run defense. Yeah, I mean I
gotta put them. I gotta put them up there.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I got there. So what's that got?

Speaker 4 (52:02):
I got Eagles one, Bills, two Coats three, I go Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Who Chiefs five, Broncos four by six.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Okay, Packers are somewhere in there in that nine ten range.
Seahawks is in there towards the back half of that.
But Seahawks, I think Seahawks probably have the most potential
to jump up to the top five.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Mm hmm, yeah, I was then I.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Said, quiet, quiet as kept I said, like this, I
think one of the most intrigued races so far, as
far as the seasonal races throughout the first nine weeks
of the season, is you probably have four or five
candidates for Coach of the year, strong candidates for coach
of the Year.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yeah, you know what I mean, like McDaniel, Yes.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
King McDaniel.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
They lead the charge.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's tough, I mean, and you got
to put the rams in.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
The Rams is always tough. But I feel like the
Rams always find a way to get themselves. Yeah, they
shoot themselves.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
In the foot.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
That Stafford mess Ever is bawling out, so he's yeah,
as long as he says he he's gonna fall off.
All right. So the eight I have, I have eight, Okay,
I have pretty much the guys the teams you listed.
I'll rattle off the order I have, but I will
say this, I I vehimally disagree with you guys on

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the broncos I do not have them in this tier.
I do not think they are in the same tier
as the rest of the guys that defense is awesome,
one of the tops and tops in the league. So
if there's a flaw in my argument, it's because the
defense can carry the team. But my that also goes
to my argument is that that defense is going to

(53:59):
have to be the reason because that offense is not good.
The offense is not good. Bow Knicks is not good
doing it like he was you were let me, did
you really you realize I forget who they played just now? Yeah,
So on he on his deep passes over twenty yards

(54:22):
he completed two and yeah, I think it was like
he was like two or something like that. And this
is a constant theme. He has been absolutely horrendous throwing
the deep ball, absolutely strowing the deep ball. This season
he's not saying well, and like his this Broncos offense,
the run game is like average and there it consists

(54:43):
of either screens, shallow passes near the line of scrimmage,
or just deep balls, which again the deep balls bon
Knicks cannot complete. So like the passing attack is so
like just not not efficient at all. So I don't
have him in this team. I am not a bonus believer.

(55:04):
Sean Payn, Yeah, he's a super Bowl super Bowl winning coach,
But I don't know how he truly views his quarterback
because he says his quarterback was the best quarterback prospect
in that draft class, but then the way he calls
his offense doesn't make it seem like he is the
best quarterback in the in the in the in the
draft class. Like it's like he's calling the plays to

(55:26):
mask what bon Nicks does. So I adamantly disagree with
having the Broncos that high. I have them in the
second tier, but the way I have the first tier ranked,
I have the Eagles at one. I think with the
way they play the past two weeks and how these
the rest of the teams kind of unfolded in Week nine,

(55:46):
there they are still the team to beat. Number two.
I actually have the Chiefs. Did they lose to the Bills? Yes?
Does this happen every single year the past, like what
four years? Yes? And that's why I think it's irrelevant.
They lose to the cheat did the Bills every regular season?
And they still find a way to beat them in
the playoffs. So until that changes, and before that happened,

(56:11):
that that offense was really clicking, they were like Mahomes
was playing other world League again. Their receivers were starting
to hit their stride. The only weakness was like their
run game, but like they don't need a run game,
so they I still put the Chiefs by a little
bit over the Bills. So Bills are at three. Colts

(56:34):
I have at four because I think very highly of
the Cults. I think against the Steelers it was just
a bad day. The Steelers do this to everyone. We
all know the Steelers will play up to the competition
and they'll play down to the competition, so like it
shouldn't be surprising to beat the Colts. But I still
think the Colts are legit. Five. I had the Seahawks
after this this trade. I'm like, Seahawks are they are

(56:54):
top five for me? Just barely all over the Rams
Rams I have at six, Lions, I have at seven
and then eight to finish off the tier. And there
are four teams that I have question marks on my list,
as in I really do not know for certain where
I want to put them. The Packers are are that

(57:16):
the reason why I'm questioning? And like you know, like Pete,
since like week one, I was like the Packers to me,
are the NFTE your favorite losing Tucker Craft was massive.
Now that Tucker Craft is lost for the season, that
is a massive blow. So like, as much as I
still like that team's roster, I don't know how they're

(57:38):
going to I don't know how they're going to cope
with the loss of their most important skill position player,
absolutely the most important at least on the offensive side.
Like Tucker Craft was establishing himself as like an elite
tight end and losing him is massive. So I wanted
to drop them to Tier two, but for now, like

(58:00):
keep them in Tier one. But it's that is that's
that's a big blow. That's a big blow. So that's
my Tier one. Uh, let's go to Tier two playoff
caliber teams. I have five in here, Pete. Let's start
off with you, though, how many do you have.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
In Tier two playoff caliber teams? I will probably say
because man, NFC West, I took too NFC nor if
I took two, all right, so playoffs, say four or five?
As you if you can't tell people when you watch this,

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I'm doing this on the fly.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
On the.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
What you do all we do?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
You do it?

Speaker 4 (58:48):
I would say towards the top of this tier is
probably Tampa Bay Box Yeah, Tampa Bay is at the
top of this tier. I would probably throw Jacksonville Jaguars
in here as well. New England Patriots. That's three.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Sneakily playoff caliber based off record and how they've been
playing lately. I'm had to go Chicago Bears as well.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I mean they're five and two or six five and
two now, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
I've been three, five and three and three.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Okay, what was that four? Trying to just think and
around the league real quick, because you put this.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Put the Steelers in their.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Based off of record, I would say, yeah, but they
may fit another category that you also cleverly came up with.
I'm not a believer in the forty nine ers that
they can maintain a long term Yeah, okay, Chargers, that
would be my five.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Is there any news on there? Was there any news
on Joe Alt that I missed? Yeah? Okay, all due
respect that Trevor Penneck. Joe Joe Alt is a monster.
They're a totally different team with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, yep, that's yeah, Brings, who is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Your I have five as well? The nail on the
head with Tampa as the head of this tier.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
That's my nine. My ten is the Patriots. I said
on this show at the beginning of the season that
Kayleb needed to show me, and he's showing me. And
Ben Johnson was a fantastic higher yes, because he's trying

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to bit the square peg in the round hole with
this football team, and they have an identity. They play defense,
they run the football. They're just letting Caleb be a playmaker.
So they're eleven. I think the Bears are. I think
they're going to be. I think they're even more of
a lock than the Packers with the Tucker Craft injury

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to make the playoffs. And then NFC twelve, I have
the Colts. See how the Colts respond to getting hit
in the mouth before I put them in my super
Bowl tier or any higher than number twelve in the
league and number thirteen, like I am, I'm out on
Green Bay. Like out, I have thirteenth. That's really as

(01:01:42):
low as I could put them with maintaining the credibility
of this exercise. There's nothing dynamic about the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
And I agree. Remember when I said super Bowl bust
based on the moves that they.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Made, right, Get that that what you see is not
that I agree, I would place them more where you
have them at because my biggest thing was, I'm not
a believer in Jordan Love consistently performing at a high level,
and now you struggle to score points in some cases
with Tucker Craft, and now you take that away. So

(01:02:16):
now if I'm if, I'm a if I'm a defensive
coordinator and I'm preppering for the Green Bay Packers, what
what what fear do I have?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
So I I will again I think that the Packers,
I wouldn't blame anyone to put them into her two
I post tucker Craft thing and their loss to the
inexcusable loss to the the so like the the the
excuseble loss of the Panthers, I'm not defending at all.

(01:02:46):
What I will defend for a second is that before
that Jordan Love was bawling, like Jordan Love was playing well.
I don't, I don't, I personally don't understand the people
that want to stick to the narrative Jordan Love is inconsistent.
Uh if they've been watching just specifically for this year,
Like he was playing very very well before the Panthers game,

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and he played very bad again against the Panthers, but
he also wasn't the only one playing bad. That was
a horrible called game by Matt mcfloor. I don't know
what he was thinking. I don't know, like what the
game plan was, why it was that h so like
it was a bad game all around for that offense.
And the frustrating thing about the Packers is that, like

(01:03:30):
I understand frustrations because they have I don't know what
it is. They have talent, and people say it like
I wish people would take closer attention. They have talent.
It's just that they make things harder on themselves for
some weird reason, whether it's play calling, whether it's Jordan
Love having one or two plays like why are you

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doing that? But then looking really good the rest of
the game, whether it's like the offensive line just crapping
the bed even though they're a good offensive line, Like
I don't know, there's the wide receivers dropping balls like
they have.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
The key word, that's the key word with them, sucks.
Is it's good. They're good across the board, across the
damn thing. There's not a damn thing on that offense,
including their quarterback that keeps defensive coordinators up at night.
It was it was craft it was, but it was
still Tucker Craft. I'm not I like Tucker Craft. He's

(01:04:30):
a good player, but he.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Was not he was no, no, no, I am going
to push back on that this year. If you see
him breaks, you have to watch the Tucker Craft was
like he was playing like prime George Kittle, like he
was unstoppable as he was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
It doesn't matter how he was playing, he's not playing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying before this, like before
this is why I tier two was fine. That's why
I said, like, I don't know, the Packers were in
limbo for me because I think losing Tucker Kraft is
like the deal breaker for them. But I'm saying before this,
they did have good things about them that warranted them
being in Tier one. Now I'm not so sure. So

(01:05:15):
like I'm just putting, I'm just saying, I'm just defending
what they were doing up in this point. That's it.
But moving forward, yeah, you guys want to put them
in Tier two. I think I'm close to doing that
as well. I just wanted to give them the benefit
of the doubt before I do so, because like they
just lost lost Tucker Craft. We'll see how they do
against us and moving forward, but like it's it sucks.

(01:05:39):
It sucks. I don't think Jordan Love was playing as
bad as a lot of people assume he was. He
was playing very well, But it just sucks moving forward,
They're not going to have their best weapon, and they
are incredibly frustrating. I get that they're incredibly frustrating to watch.

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So that's that you had I form my five. I
had five in here. Nine is the Bucks. We all
agreed on that. Ten Patriots, me and you Branks agreed
on that. Eleven I have Chargers, But again, I don't
know if I want to drop them a tier with
Joe All now being gone, but I like that team

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so much son I think Justin Herbert is is really
really good and having a great season so far, so
I'll keep them in this as the number eleven. Twelve,
this is where I have the Broncos, and then thirteen,
this is my second team where I'm like, if you
where to put them. I have the Ravens because as
bad as they looked, they're kind of trending up. And

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that division is still now kind of wide open because
the Steelers are just you know, the Steelers on the Steelers.
So the Ravens could make a run here, so I
want to keep them alive, so I'll keep them in
this second tier playoff caliber. So that's that's my five.
Let's go to now to the next one. Tier three.
These are the wild card hopefuls. This is gonna be

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interesting because I don't know how this is gonna go,
but brings start us off. Who do you have?

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
This is a big tier one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
and there's eight same as the super Bowl tier.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
He has a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Okay, yeah, I mean hopefuls is the key word here.
I think like I don't expect any of these teams,
if they make the playoffs as a wildcard team, to
make any type of noise in the NFL playoffs as
of now. So fourteen I had the Steelers. Steelers can't

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run the ball and it's about to get cold and
snowy in Pittsburgh. That's not a good mix. H Fifteen
I have the Niners. They're super injured. Sixteen I have
the Jaguars. I keep waiting for the Jaguars to come
back to Earth, but they keep winning games for some reason. Yeah.
Seventeen I have the Chargers. I think they're pretty much cooked.

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Without Joe Alt, they're totally different. I mean, they obliterated
the Minnesota Vikings and Joe Alt's return obliterated though, and
now he's gone eighteen. This was a tough team to tier.
But I think I got it right with the wild
card hoples because if JJ McCarthy plays like he did yesterday,
I mean, they may they might have something going here

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in Minnesota at number eighteen nineteen, they're probably not gonna
make it, but they are five and four and they
just want a big road game in Green Bay at
the Panthers twenty I guess the Cowboys could get hot offensively.
Maybe it'll work with these trades. And number twenty one

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I have the Texans. I think there's gonna be some
bad teams that make it work playoffs in the AFC.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Yeah, the AFC is top heavy, but then after that,
like the top after that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
I mean, that was generous with the twenty one with
the Texans because I do believe in Damico Ryans. Yeah,
I do believe. I do believe in c J. Stroud,
but their defense is elite. But I don't understand how
their offense with c J. Stroud is like watching pay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Dry because it's offensive line. The offensive line is horrible.
Like they cannot they cannot run, they cannot convert a
third and one, like anything short yards they cannot convert.
That's a testament of the offensive line. It's in shambles.
It's so bad. That's why they I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
I mean, like I double I double dipped on there.
Like I have Texans Basfield on like all my fantasy
teams with Nick Chubb and Woody Marx. I figured, like,
if one gets hurt, I'll just put the other one
in there. I play Woody Marx most of all the
time because he catches the ball. But they're getting five
points a week, like because the crazy and like you

(01:10:08):
have a you have an alpha receiver and Nico Collins
like and they still can't make it work. They play
the Jaguars this weekend. I think if they lose to
the Jaguars, they're gonna be in one of these other tiers. Yea,
they gotta start. They got you gotta start winning games
if you want to gotta start winning games at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Pete two three, So wild card hopefuls.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Mister on the fly, Jesus Christ, I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Mean I'm really am going to give you. I'll say Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
You guys have Dallas high Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Just because the offense. Mean, once again we're talking about
wild card hopefuls.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Yeah, but I'm not gonna play.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
It's not a lot that they're making anything. But the
wildcard could be nine and eight, ten and seven. I mean,
they got to run off a little bit of it.
They gotta go on a little bit of a run.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Caroline is a wild card hopeful.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
The defense travels, man, The defense travels, I mean, and
Dave Canals shout out to him and they and one
thing that also travels outside of a defense was the
other thing we always say, running the football. Them some
bitches can run the Dagon football began. They can run
the football.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
M I think I probably would be more inclined to
put Pittsburgh in this tier. San Fran in this tier
as well.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Jacksonville is probably fringing this tier. I thought they were
six and three not five and three, so that to him,
I would put Minnesota in this tier as well, sitting
that four and forward. They have a lot of talent
on offense. Defensive system is sound. Quarterback play has been
been their down for like, Carson started off all right
and then he got hurt, and then Carson was going.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Carson Wentz is going WinCE. So damn. Their defense is
just so bad.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
I kind of want to put Cincinnati in here, but
their defense is just so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
It's so bad. It's really really bad.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
I mean, based off based off record, you would say
Baltimore is a hopeful, but obviously their level of play
and their roster is above that, right, So cam.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
I have them in Tier two because I think exactly run.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
I mean, that's it, man, Like these teams are just
two for being two games under five hundred this far
and so many other than Yeah. No, the maths doesn't work,
the mass doesn't work well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
I okay, So my Tier three I have fourteen. I
have Steelers fifteen, I have forty nine Ers sixteen, I
have Texans seventeen. I have the Falcons, which god they
if there was never a Jack alone high team, it's
the Falcons. Uh, super frustrating eighteen. I was I was
gonna put them in the next tier, but what the heck?

(01:13:31):
I put the Bears here as a wild cord because
then five and three I think the things are looking up.
And then the last one, I have nineteen. I have
the Jaguars. So I have nineteen teams through three tiers
going through all right, So this is where I am
excited about this tier because I think this the way
you the way you look at it, I could tell

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a lot. So Tier four, Tier four, we have bad
teams but good vibe. So the team is bad, but
like you can be happy about them. I'll start, I
will talk to about I have three teams in here, okay,
but two of the teams they're kind of late additions

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and I don't I don't know for sure if I
should have put them here or wild card hopefuls, but
I put them in here just so I could talk
about them. But the first team I put, I put
the Panthers here. I still think overall they are a
bad team. I don't think they're going to make the playoffs,
but I think the vibes are good. I think like
they're playing above their.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Team.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
I think over I think they've won some surprising games,
but I don't think it's gonna last. I still they're going.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
To so you then they're going to finish over five hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
I don't think so I don't I don't know, but
I don't think they're gonna make it. I don't think
they're gonna being the playoffs. Yeah, so bad team good vibes.
Like when I say bad teams, I don't mean like
they're horrific. I have with that last in just the
preview for the last year, which is mock draft time,
I have seven teams in there. So like, this is

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what I'm saying. I don't think the Panthers are that
caliber of bad all right, and I think that right
now they they have a lot of positive things going
for them, So they are at the top of Tier
four for me. Then I have I have the Vikings
because they would have been in my tier five of
bad teams, bad vibes until they broke off this win

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against the Lions, and I'm just like, Okay, So JJ McCarthy,
even though he's flawed, he has now had two wins
in the division under his belt as a starting quarterback,
and it's you know, the team that defense really came
on against the line, like the Vikings. That Vikings defense
woke up. So if if that's the trend, I'd have

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to say they're good. Because even if they don't make
the playoffs. As long as they think that JJ McCarthy
could be their guy, then that's that's good. That's good.
And then in twenty two, this is late addition because
we just got the news that they're going with Jacoby Brissett.
So the Cardinals the Cardinals bad team, but right now

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the vibes are good because Jacoby were said, helped lead
the teams who went against the Cowboys and win a
night football And most importantly, Marvin Harrison was activated. Marvin
Harrison came on and like, hey, so it's I think
I think there's a lot to be right now, a

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lot to be hopeful for with the Cardinals, even though
they are overall still like I still think like they
they there's things to be happy about. So those are
the three teams I haven't heer four of Pete. Bad teams,
good vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Bad teams, good vibes, so.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Hopeful teams right, teams that have things they can look
forward to. How you had this list and you did
not have the New York Giants in this list regardless
of injuries. When when scatterbut and neighbors.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Are because no, no, no, because they're not coming back. This year.
I put them in wait wait, wait, wait, because no, no, no,
but this is for the rest of the year. Here
six is mock draft time, meaning these teams are looking
forward to the draft, their season is done. So I

(01:17:34):
didn't have the Giants here because I think with Neighbors
and Scatterbug Gone, like, they're not making any noise this year.
But they are. They fall, They're right at the top.
They're the first team I have for the last year
in mock draft time because I think they are going
to really have a lot to look forward to with
the draft and going into next season. But like, I'm

(01:17:58):
probably going to agree with everything you say, but I
think the semantics say, like this is why they're not
because there's there's no hope for this season anymore. That
makes sense, That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
I'm said, I have three themb looking at right now.
Then bad teams, good vides.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
I agree with you. In Arizona, I go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
To Jecko on high team the Falcons, and it seems
weird to say because they may have a long shot
to make it, But I with the Bengals in that
tier too, because it's the offense is so good. Listen, man,
I don't know why Joe Flacco looks he's inevitable, like

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he goes to the stretch where he's going to have
six or seven games. In that game last Sunday against
the Bears was a very winnable game. And if trust me,
if they had won that game, and there's four or
five looks a lot different than three and six, a
lot different than three in it does?

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
It does? But they are three and six, and so
like that's what I'm saying, Like you're you're looking from
a glass half full. Let's dive into the Bengals because
I have them a Tier five. I have them as
as bad teams, bad vibes. So while you're looking at
a glass half full, I'm looking at glass half empty
because their their offense now has woken up, but now
their defense is so catastrophically bad that they're back to

(01:19:19):
where they were last year where they can't win games
because of their defense. And where do they go from here?
Like it's the way they constructed this roster, It doesn't
make sense. So breaks, what do you think you'd be?
The tiebreaker brings the Bengals?

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
What the Bengals I have? They're my only team and
bad team, bad vibes, So you agreement.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
So yeah, because of the injury to Burrow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
They're just a bad franchise, Pete. I don't know, like
they're like they fired the defensive coordinator thinking that was
going to fix everything, and I'm Arilla, he's with the
Colts now, correct, Yeah, well, I mean they're looking pretty
good on the defense. So it wasn't that they take
this guy Shamar Stewart in the first round of the

(01:20:11):
draft thinking that they're going to get a start, and
he's on his ass all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Like.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Hurt, held out, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
He's ineffective, whatever is it's just not it wasn't a
good draft pick so far, and like now you're now
you're getting it, and they like the offense is being like, well,
what do you mean? We we hung half a hundred
up and we lost. What are you guys doing? So
now the second the defense starts clicking and the offense sputters,

(01:20:44):
then the defense is going to be like, it's just
it's just it's just not it's not good. It's not good.
The only reason they're not looking for the mock draft
portion of these power rankings is because they are alted.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you on that, and I
wanted to. I wanted to put them in bad Vibes
because it's just like it's the vibes are just bad.
Vibes are just bad. But Pete, do you have any
any anything else? Any other teams were tier tier four?

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
No, all right, brings Tier four bad teams good vibes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
I have two teams. It's the Falcons and the Cardinals.
Twenty two Falcons twenty three Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
I mean, okay, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
We realized, yeah, the the Falcons, they should be better,
I guess, but right, it's just like it's like you
have Jon and Drake London who are great, but Panix
hasn't really gotten the jump. I mean they lost thirty

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to nothing to the Panthers and then they beat the bill,
beat the bills, like beat them like like smoke the bills, Yes,
smoke the bills.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
So like I guess you can be like, okay, maybe
we can make a run, but I don't see it happening.
But it's it's it's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
It's it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
They are maybe they need and they maybe maybe they
need a change, and then maybe they need an offensive
guy as a head coach, the.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
Win against the Bills Monday night, and then you play
Sunday night against the Niners and they use ten points.
I don't I just the inefficiency at times to move
the ball and what they're doing on offense, it just
boggles my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Yeah, and Arizona, Arizona is a quarterback short from being
a really good team and we ran we everyone hated
Jonathan Gannon here in Philadelphia because of that that Super Bowl,
and myself included. But he's doing a good job in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
He's I think he's doing I don't know if I
go so far say good, but he's doing a better
job than I think we all expected.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
And it's not bad as a quarterback making a lot
of money.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
That's fair, and that's that's completely that's completely fair. I
think it's like it's like it's frustrating because with the Cardinals,
it's like they have talent, Like look at the pieces
that like Walter Nolan, Will Johnson at cornerback, like they
got Josh Weeded and we have Marvin Harrison Junior, Like
they have talent on that roster. It's like it's I
think with the Cardinals has been so frustrating because they

(01:23:28):
haven't seemed to put it together consistently, you know what
I mean, Like they're far from a bad team, but
they're they haven't taken that next step to be like
a really good team. And Branks, maybe you're right, maybe
it's because of the quarterback and holding. Yeah, so like
that that could be the thing. So I that's kind
of why I put them here, because like they're they

(01:23:50):
are middle of the road, but I think right now, yeah,
they're on the up, like there' stuff to be happy about.
So yeah, Tier five so bad teams, bad vibes breaks.
Let's start with you here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Uh the only team I listed here was Bengal.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
You said, right, yeah, yeah, okay, Uh pete.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Bad teams, bad vibes. I would say Washington, that's my
only team.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
That's your only team. Okay. So I I mentioned I
had the Bengals, I do have Washington, and I just
don't know how you guys don't have the Cowboys on here.
It's like, let's let's let's start with them. Yeah, the
record kind of says like they could be wildcard AF
but I'm not. I cannot put them as that. They
are a bad team. Guys, like they and yeah, they

(01:24:44):
got Quinn Williams. Sure is that going to fix the
defense to where the defense can help them be a
wild card team? I don't think so. Huh oh, you're sorry,
but yeah, like the cab was, there are a bad
They show they are a bad team. And when if

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the offense sputters even just a little bit. We saw
this against the Cardinals. If it's sputters just for one
or two drives, the whole thing falls apart. The whole
thing falls apart, and it's it's bad team. Bad vibes.
Because again we talked about the Quinton Williams trade. Cool,
you trade for Quentin and Williams, What was the point
in trading away Michael Parsons, Like, what was the point?

(01:25:28):
And does anyone really believe in their head coach? Probably not?
Like there is they are. They have an explosive offense,
a dangerous offense, but it's not perfect, you know, it's not.
They have their flaws and the defense it could be
in Hawks to be the worst defense in the league

(01:25:48):
with the Bengals, that's how bad they are. So I
put them they are twenty five for me. That bad
teams bad vibes, Like I have the Bengals Commanders that cap.
So like, let's talk about the Commanders now bad vibe
Washington bad team, because I think we all kind of
saw this right, leaning on older players going into the

(01:26:11):
season to contribute that's not working out good. But why
they have bad vibes because their their second year quarterback
just got hurt and who wasn't even playing to the
level he was last year, and the the team bought

(01:26:32):
so much into this season to try to make something
and it just deny. It was catastrophic failure, catastrophe. Like
I don't think they win. I think that most they
win two more games the rest of the year. So
I I agree with you, Pete. I have the Commanders
absolutely in this tier. But yeah, like Cowboys Commanders, give

(01:26:53):
your give your thoughts on on either or.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
I'm they can catch the battle man. They can put
up forty too much talent on the offense, and then
if the defense can just get one more stop a game,
they can pretty much out square everybody else. And I
think the key to their offense success this year has
been their ability to run the ball. Javonte Williams and

(01:27:17):
being able to run the ball, be patient. Moving on,
the ground pickings and Lamb Dak really doesn't. I mean,
he has the stresses where he goes interception happy, but
it hasn't happened yet. But the Commanders is just it's
like I'm watching the RG three sophomore season all over again,
bro And and it sucks to say, but they went

(01:27:40):
into the off season they didn't do enough.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
They didn't get young enough. I would have brought back
the keys.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
You can see what the kids is doing in Chicago
just to get to keep some youth on the team.
And you just you can't bank on can't base your
depth off of top talent and then hoping to stay
healthy because then you're just still prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
You're just you. And you see it, you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
See it's it's rare in its ugly head and this
kind of fill for nobody like that. Going into that
locker room after the game Sunday, showing up today, the
vibe in there has to be bad because it's like,
what why us? Why does this happen to us? Why
is this happening to my quarterback? I mean, and just

(01:28:23):
a freak thing too, man, Like it's just so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
So just you just you know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
What I mean, do you put how much do you
put on dan Quinn for keeping him in there? I
think that was.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
Really part of that blame because at that point in
the game, was it thirty eight?

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Someone got yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Whatever, there was no need, no need, you know, I mean,
you don't want to ever just throw in the towel.
You want to have a mercery rules in the NFL.
But this is the other side of that coin.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
It is brings. Did you where did you have Washington
day in your next year?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
They're mock drafted?

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Okay, gotcha? All right? So did you want I mean,
did you have anything to add for the Washington competition?

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
I had a missing the playoffs from the jump. I
mean kind of got lucky, kind of called Leny in
the bottle to get to the NFC Championship last year.
And then they let up fifty five to the Eagles
at Lincoln Financial Field and that in the big spot,
and then I wasn't a fan of many of their

(01:29:32):
off season moves. And now Jaden Daniels is hurt. Yeah,
So I mean, yeah, they're looking, They're looking the next year.
They got the Lions this week. They still got the
Eagles twice the year. Yeah, I don't say they still
got to play. They still got to play Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
No, they played Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
You're right. Did they play Denver yet? They didn't play
Denver yet?

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
No, they didn't play.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Yeah, another loss, especially if Maritas there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
I mean, I don't think they play. I don't think
they've played.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
They have to play Miami in London. Is it London
or international game they have coming up?

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
They might win that one, they.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
And then they might win against the Giants, you know
what I mean. So like it's I think those are
the two games they might split it with the Giants.
So yeah, it's bad. It's bad. So talk about bad.
Let's go to our final tier. And I think, like
I didn't really have like an order because there's all
just jumbled up. I guess, well, I have the top
team here for my last for the for this last

(01:30:41):
year is the Giants, because again I think they have
a lot to look forward to, but like their season
is just done. So it's the Giants obviously, the Dolphins,
the Raiders, Brown, Saints, Jets, Titans. Those are my seven.
I'm assuming you have everyone else. I don't know, Yeah, ring.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
I'm eight of them. I got twenty five. Raiders twenty
six Commanders. This is a very haphazard. Yeah, yeah, the Giants.
I have the Giants at twenty seven. They are by
far the worst coach team in the league. They're the
worst managed team in the league. Joe Shane stinks, Brian

(01:31:23):
Daviles stinks. There's their defense shouldn't be bad.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
No, we talk about this all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Yeah, they're They're not just bad. They're horrendous on defense,
like they is. Brian Burns still leading the league in sacks.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
He's up there. He's not he's up there. They're horrendous.
Twenty eight I have the Saints. I guess there's a
little hope there because you got a coach and they try.
They try, They get first downs and score touchdowns sometimes
the Giants at some point, but they twenty nine. I

(01:32:04):
have the Browns. Thirty had the Titans, even though the
Jets traded all their players today, I still have them
thirty first, and then there's fifteen feet as ship, and
then the Miami Dolphins Miami joins. Miami Dolphins have a
bad they have a bad owner, they have a bad coach, quarterback,

(01:32:27):
much talent in the trenches. They are They are the worst?
Are the worst team in yep? How Mike McDaniel still
has a job.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
That's him through the season.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Yeah, they said, they.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Said that I predicted be on this show before the
season that he would be the first head coach fired,
and I.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Think he should be. I don't understand how you fire GM,
but then you keep the head work for.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
What bad owner? He don't want to eat that much money.
It's crazy. And not only that they have the Brian
Flores lawsuit thing, they have that hanging over their head
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Tyreek Hill, I mean, I forget what exactly he did
to himself, but he's out for the season and it
was definitely it was definitely a leg injury. And his
whole game is predicated on speed, so that that's no good.
I don't know why you don't pull the trigger on
Jayla Wattle at the deadline for who for what to

(01:33:41):
have him? That doesn't doesn't matter. Let bleak Washington and
a practice squad guys play. They're so bad, they're so
like they have they have They have no skill, they
have no talent, they have no work ethic, they have
no culture, they have no shot.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Yeah, you have to be You're Jalen Phillips, you have
to be so happier out of there, out of there.
So yeah, I think, I think, yeah, I said to uh.
Any final thoughts overall for the for the Powerings, the
league going forward as we head into there's so much

(01:34:23):
in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
There is, and I feel.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
And the league, the league messed up because the Birds
can't The Birds couldn't get it together and just playing
with their B game and they still.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Four games above five hundred and it looks like they're
trying to put it together.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
So because if everything is everything right, I know Brings
said that Denver's number one, like he has.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
The number one, but if both teams are playing at
the optimo best, I mean, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
I don't know what team in the league beast his team.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Yeah, that's why I have him on one because right now,
like everything everyone you said it off they had their chance.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Yeah the NFC, yeah you had. The door was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Wide opened out and the teams this past week they lost.
That is why I said the show, this might have
been the best bye week the team has ever had.
You see the rest of the division lose and then
the top the other two top teams in the in
the conference.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
And honestly, this time next week.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
They can really put a stamp on this if they
really want to put a proverbial hey, like, this is
where the Defendi super Bowl champions. This is still our yard.
These next two games and then the next thirteen. Yeah,
they go to and oh in those games.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Yeah, because going to start They're going to start one
and now yeah, guarantee you I don't see.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
I think the Packers were spiling without crap.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
So I chose the I chose the Eagles and the
Ravens to be my super Bowl, and I'm gonna stick
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Okay, Okay, I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
I'm gonna stay with it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
I like it. I like it. What's the Ravens?

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Ravens, there's three and I think there's three and five.
They beat the Bears, that beat they were one in five.
They came back from the by Lamar Sat They beat
the Bears and then they demolished the Dolphins to get
the three and five.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Okay, so there's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
That division that there are only two games out There.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Are only two games out there, and they didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
They haven't played the Steelers. They had not played the
Steelers they.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Have, Yeah, they have the two games. So now it's
like almost like a guarantee every year that the they
split like the For some reason, the Steelers always want
to give megast the Ravens. Who knows, but like they
have the opportunity, the Ravens have an opportunity to to
catch them. So yeah, the Ravens could could make noise.

(01:36:59):
Uh yeah, I think that's it again, I said for
for my last thing, I said that, Uh, I'm disappointed
Breese Hall wasn't moved. I'm also disappointed that no running
backs removed like he Drada running back already. Yet one
of these guys who are like Breight on the depth
start get them a chance somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
And I think that's the key.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
At the Pats, it would have been tough if the
Pats would have found a way to get Brite Hall.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
I think that definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
And the Bills Pats I could have gone to the
Chiefs and Chiefs could have used the running back like
us well, I said, because I saw that rumor that
like he was, he could be a trade candidate for
the Broncos. And I'm just like, okay, so you want

(01:37:50):
another weapon, another deep weapon for bro Nicks to miss completely.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
But that's what you put cross. I mean, I agree
with you. Yeah, I don't know if it's a Nicks
because he does have the arm talent. It just had
the confidence to let it go.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
But yeah, it's so bad. Look up, just look up
the stats on his deep passes. He is horrific on
deep thero So yeah, well, gentlemen, that was a loaded
episode of Filmed Online. We were almost at like an
hour thirty eight. Well we are at an hour thirtye
but uh talked about a lot, covered a lot. Brinks.

(01:38:24):
Appreciate you coming on with us and giving your insight
on on the trade deadline and power ranking these teams
and saying where we disagree for the most part we
were on we agreed on most things.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
There were only pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Yeah, I think the Broncos were one that we didn't
agree on. I think the Cowboys, but like we had
them in like two separate tiers. But I think we
kind of were all on the same page in terms
of context. But yeah, I think we were all for
the most part we were in agreement for on the tiers.
So good stuff for all of you who are still

(01:38:59):
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