Film Don't Lie Presented by A2DRadio Week 10: Eagles-Packers Film Breakdown and More Offensive Inconsistencies? Rams vs Seahawks Preview

The Philadelphia Eagles defeated the Green Bay Packers, but it wasn’t without its frustrations. Why did the Philadelphia Eagles' offense show inconsistencies yet again despite the win? We dive deep into the All-22 film to expose the key problems with the play-calling and execution that MUST be fixed before the playoffs.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:31):
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So it's good to be here on Tuesday night chatting
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(01:18):
the film breakdowns of Eagles packers before we do. It's
a boy, Chucks and it's your boy as always, mister
O G P. Pete Evans, my brother, how are you?
How are you feeling? Oh? He at the ballot for one.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Now I'm here, you're here? Okay, there's movement going on
behind me.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
This is what happens when you know people come home
and then the dog gets all excited.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
So I am doing well.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Uh, close family member of ours lost in today getting
through that dealing with the lost life is always tough.
Puts things in perspective. So shout out to the Hills family.
Love you guys, My heart is with you. Big will
question piece, Big Eagles win last night. We talked about
it last week, kind of said like, hey, if they

(02:10):
can these next ten days, they can get two w's
kind of set yourself apart. But there's a team out west,
in the Pacific Northwest that is starting to worry me.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Just just di smidge a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
But you know that QB would start he is very,
very poignant that he may be seeing some ghosts come January.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I mean that that is his his his rep so
he's gotta he's gotta kind of shed that. But hey,
we are we will see because they are playing at
a high level and we'll definitely get into the matchup
that they have with the Rams, which should be a really,
really great matchup. So I definitely I'm excited to dive

(02:55):
into that. But to start off the show, we uh,
you know, myself and the rest of the boys on
Eagles Talk last night, we did our post game recap
show of the Eagles Packers game. Gave our like initial
thoughts and everything and that was an awesome show if
you didn't If you missed it, definitely go check it out.

(03:16):
But as usual, Pete and I were here to give
you now the gritty all twenty two film breakdown and
to show you what you know we saw on film
and and our takeaways from that. So let's get to
the offensive film breakdown as usual, Like I did, I
didn't get a chance to watch the defensive side of
the ball yet on film, so we're gonna keep this

(03:38):
offensive side out focused. But that's usually like we gave
our props rather, you know, we all gave our props
to the defense last night and what they were able
to do last night phenomenal win. And you know, much
of the talking points about this game are gonna be
about the offense and how they struggled. But I think
that the defense deserves their just do because they should

(04:02):
be the main storyline the way they came out and performed. So,
you know, I last night, I gave my game ball
to Jylen Phillips, but there's so many defensive players that
you could shout out as having a great game. So
since you didn't get to speak on it yet, Pete,
give your thoughts on defensive performance. Yeah, the defensive performance
against the Packers and if you want to shout out
any specific player and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I think we saw the defensive coordinators of both teams
last night be one step ahead of the Ocs, whether
that's Matt Lafleur or Kevin Patulo in the combination next
to Janni as well the game plan on the defensive side.
It almost felt like Fangio specifically.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Has more.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
More ingredients now to prepare meal, right, to put it,
to put a new spin or it's the same old, good,
old recipe, but you can add a little new spin
on it, a new a new perspective on it.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Right, I like it.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I mean, I know, we said we're running into the
offensive film breakdown, so there will be defensive stuff coming
out follow oh at Chuck Frannon also my handle at
ogp olgp at a two d woo wooll post at
on our socials as you break down film from the
defensive side. But I said it last night in our chat,
I said, hey, like, we may be on the verge
of having this defense be the best you know on
this team and most consistent you know on this team.

(05:17):
And granted, don't get me wrong. We had a parade
down Broad in February. Jalen was Jail was the MVP.
But really we won that game and that Super Bowl
fifty down.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
On the backs of the defense.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Really the offense was timely, but when you have difficulty
moving the ball against this defense, and we can even
see it from last night game specifically, like the Eagles
looked like they had more success and more ease of
getting up or down the field, obviously, and it was
more self afflicted wounds on the Eagles side from the

(05:48):
offense where Green Bay because they don't want to put
any money into a wide receiver on the outside, and
they want to be a pass a run first team
when they really should be a pass first team.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
He wasn't even he wasn't even playing, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I mean, and the quick game they didn't use that,
and that could go a testament to what the game
plan was for the Packer's side. Then execute losing Dobbs
during the game, not having Golden coming into the game,
losing Tucker Craft coming into the game. They didn't capitalize
on that I don't think they took advantage of it,
and it played into the Eagles' hands, and then we

(06:22):
went from two weeks ago talking about okay, where's this
past rush going to be generated from? And now it's like,
I mean, we went from rags to riches, you know,
the one game went to rags and riches, right, So
they have a chance to do it again this Sunday night.
But Jalen Phillips looks like he looks like he's been
there all year. I mean, and once again, his biggest
thing was not so much his talent, where his ceiling is.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Or what his floor is, it's its availability.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
So if they can keep their kid up right, I mean,
your rental can turn into an extension. That means somebody
that we love on the line right now may not
be able to stick around. You know, So I like
what I'm saying. CBO still a concern. Quinn had a
really good game last night, but let's be let's be honest.
I'm not taking anything away from the wide receivers and
agreement packers that did suit him last night. But I

(07:09):
mean it's nothing, It's nothing that Quon hasn't seen so
far this year. Right, Yeah, so they're gonna they're anig
the test, and but I'm confident I have more faith
right now the defense showing up.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Week the week than I do the offense. Yeah, I
think that's and I.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Think that's an easy that's an easy take to have.
That's an easy perspective and an easy lens to look through.
I really feel like if we had a more solidified
CB two, that this defense would be not on the
verge of elite, but elite, right, And Jahad.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is starting to settle in more.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
When the Kobe comes, it's like it's almost like when
we had the conversations like, hey, like, what's going to
be the role for Campbell when the Kobe comes back?
Is he going to take a step back? And it's
like to see all this talent on the field on
the defensive side at one time, it's just really FANGI
it can go in so many different directions outside of
this personnel be able to beat you man to man

(08:07):
old fashion right, but now to be able to scheme
as well. Definitely gonna be a weapon to our avenge
because I mean we saw the last night. What I've
said about Jordan Love all year, even coming into the year,
is sometimes he just it's the play is just inconsistent.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
The play is just inconsistent. And with that sub subpart
is the wrong way to use.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
But that level of talent that they have on the
offensive side of the ball on Green Bay, with this
talent that we have again on the defensive side, wasn't
going to get the job done if you weren't perfect,
you know, and theros that were missed what have you.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
But when you have the pass for us that that not.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
So much from an excess and old standpoint changes what
you do. But the mental processing of the QB, he
just can't get to it because there was plays that
there were there were wide receivers open, but you play
a part into that having a pass rush get there
to rush that rush that process, so the QB may
hold onto a little bit longer. He just doesn't see it,
doesn't trust it. And that happened more and more to

(09:13):
one occasion last night. So as to the defense, let
it be the beginning and let's keep rolling. Uh and
then now we'll get into the not so glorious glorious.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes, I said this. I said this last night real quick,
and I wanted to make it apparent too. I really think,
because I alluded to and Leaven last week on Unfilding Li,
I really think the loss of Tucker Craft was felt.
Oh yeah, they had no easy buttons last night, and
usually Tucker Craft is that easy button for Jordan Love.

(09:48):
You know, they have no one that can get yards
up of the catch. And you know, I know, me
and me and Brinks were in a disagreement over how
good Tucker Craft really is. I think it showed last
night that like, without him, they are they are that offensive.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Tucker Craft is almost like a baby George Kittle. George
Kittle was.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
In his prime yep, yeah, and he was had like
he was on the verge of having his breakout season.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
But really with the Packers, man, it's just the ideology
because if you go back to the game against the Steelers,
I mean, Jordan Love had twenty straight completions, like and
regardless of what your talent is, and that was all
quick game. He still could have used that in this game, right,
but Lafloria just didn't take advantage and the pass rush
got got a little got there a little bit quicker,

(10:39):
you know. So it's kind of a microcosm of a
lot of things, you know, and it's like you feel
kind of feel bad for the Packers at the time
because it's like hey, like Golden's out, but then you
lose Tucker Craft for the whole year. He's kind of
at one because if you look at the Packers offense
right going against our defense, there really wasn't going into it,

(11:00):
there wasn't anything where you feel like they truly had
an advantage. And not to say Tucker Craft, he's good,
but he makes you like that could have been the
one spot that you can say, Okay, we may have
an advantage here, a mismatch here slightly from a from
a personal standpoint.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
So that's definitely saying I know that you know from
the Packer's side, there's there's a lot of noise right now,
a lot of scrutin scrutiny surrounding Mountain Lefloor and his
play calling and how yeah, man, like, I don't know
how legitimate that that rumor report is how hot a
Seed is, but he is. He's definitely part of the
problem that the play calling just isn't good right now.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
It's like they don't know their identity of what they
want to do. They want to be a run first team,
but they don't run block well, but they pass blocked
really well. But they don't want to be a pass
first team, like you can ultimately see if the Packers
have a collapse by the end of the season and
they don't made the playoffs, which I think will be
a failure after the Partiers trade because of the aspal,

(12:04):
because the defense is a legit Super Bowl contended defense,
I think Jeff Hatley steps right into that role as
the head coach, and you may see like a Brian
Dable or something like that become the OC.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Possibly. Possibly. I mean like I'd be shocked before the
Lafloor is gone. I think he's been too good for
too long. But you never know, you never know. I
mean we we had our own colops in twenty twenty
three obviously, and Sirianni kept his job, so you know,
I think Lula Floor, I personally think la Floor is
nowhere near getting hands there. But I mean it's the

(12:39):
talking point because they're not they're not performing well enough.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
On offense, right.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I remember he's been to how many NFC Championships games
did he had the Packers in? I want to recall
at least two. He's been there for a while.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I don't know, Yeah, he's when.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Did he get is either?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
You know, he's meaning to the divisional round and maybe
one off championship game. So but it's kind of been
that slow decline since then, a little bit like this
is regular season performance. That could be health, it could
be this, it could be that. I mean he's taken,
he's had some playoffense under his belt, under his belt
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, so that's the defensive side. I know we got
into packerstock a little bit, but you know, we definitely
wanted to talk about that and touch on the Packers
side a little bit. But yeah, let's let's get into
the offensive side of the The inconsistencies rare their ugly
head again this week after having too hopeful performances before

(13:40):
the bye. Do you want to start it off with
your your first takeaway or you know, your first thing
that you want to just.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Over arching takeaway from the offensive performance last night in
the game, whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
You want to do, if you want to get into
the weeds or I mean, obviously as usual, I have
a lot of notes here, so but I don't know which.
How do you want to start this off?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Self inflicted wounds, which is frustraable, to false starts, to
coming into some play calls and situations, to where we
just didn't need to put ourselves in that situation. Question
the calls from Siriani during the game or scenarios that

(14:27):
were questionable, that kind of felt like we kind of
got away with one a little bit. We were the
team that made the least mistakes last night, especially on
the offensive side of the ball, and we had the
team that has the better playmakers and skilled position players
on the roster on the field Washington on the.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Field last night, and that ultimately came down to it.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't feel as if we caught them off guard
at all from an ex as a O standpoint. I
know there's one play here that was close to that.
But once again, like I give my hats off to
Jeff Hadley, it's a coordinatord from the Green Bay Packers
had a lot of looks that were pressure, some simulated pressures,
but a lot of covers, a lot of cover six,

(15:08):
a lot of covers five, a lot of zone and
they were not And the one player that we scored
a touchdown on that was man to man so rightfully.
So he had the right game plan and we at
times again I felt like the first drive, that our
first possession that ultimately ended up in a jail of fumble,
which was a great call, one of the better calls
of the game by Puttolo that that QB design run.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
But just not as consistent as we would have liked.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
But if once again I hear some things, so well,
Eagles need to do this, you can do that, like
give kudos a lot like the Packers defense is not
It's not nothing to sneeze at, right. I mean it
makes you wonder where they were at for the Cowboys
to put up forty and that was without CD.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right. But you know, a win is a win, it's
a building block. I've always said this. I don't ever
this team will never walk away.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
And when they do play a perfect game or an
ideal game, it's usually in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
But like during the regular season.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't think they ever walk away fulling, feeling fully satisfied, because.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
They leave a lot.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
They leave a lot of meat on the bone, whether
that's what they say, from penalties, from turnovers, from bad
scheme calls.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
There was one place, but particularly I want to say.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Maybe after the fourth the fourth down turn out of
the four and out in the fourth quarter, there's a
couple of run calls where it's like they're showing you
a run blitz and we're not getting into something else.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, So I mean.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Visually and verbally, we don't have any like, we didn't
have any place to where you see what Moro joemas saying,
inside zone, inside Z one, inside zone right here, right here,
right here. But I definitely felt as if Halley was
one step ahead. I don't know if that was just Hey,
everybody's going to have you marked on our marked on
their schedule. Everybody's going to bring a little bit extra

(17:09):
because you're the defender Super Bowl champions. And they're probably
hearing it from every national media pundit and even local
media pundit saying like, hey, the Eagles have the best
roster in football, so you're gonna get everyone's best every
Sunday or every Monday, or every Friday, come Black Friday,
so you're gonna get everyone's best, right, And I think

(17:31):
Sirianni for some point when I've seen on the field,
but in the locker room, he says, sometimes me, sometimes.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
We but always us. Right.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
There's a lot to go into that, and he says, regardless,
they're not happy with the standard that they're playing and
they can play better at that standard, but we need
to see it on the field because there are some
place here where the designs I like.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Or greedy though.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
You know, we live in this, we live in a
society to where we're we want that, we want that
instant and just react that satisfication, and we're not seeing
that as much as we would like, you know, But
but what there's a lot of meat left on the bone.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
There's still time to correct it.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
There's some times corrected. And they that was what we
were talking about last night too, and I just think
everyone agreed that like there's this isn't because I asked them,
is it's all the goodwill and confidence of the offensive
built up? Is that out the window? And they everyone
said no, they're still hope that they could they could
still fix this. And turning around, you know, Less made

(18:37):
a good point like they probably psicked themselves out with
like the weather and then the fumble, which you know,
I think that Greg Miller touched on, like after the funnel,
they got super conservative, so they probably you know, again,
I don't like that conservative approach. I think it drives
everyone nuts. But that's that's just explaining what happened. And
you know I I talied up. I think there were

(19:00):
three of those give up runs on third down, which
and third and long and which.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I can't but it's it's essentially like, hey, like all right,
just this series is over.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, we're just gonna hand it off. Like I have
a huge problem with that because I think we saw
I forget which game it was, I think it was.
It was it the Rams. Forgive me if I'm wrong,
but we when we started on third and long, like
attacking down field in the passing game, we started converting
some of that stuff. Like you have two elite wide

(19:34):
receivers in a j. Brown DeVante Smith. You have a
tight end who was arguably like top five tight end
in the game, one of the you know, better tight
ends in the league, and Dallas god it. You even
have you know, Johan Dotson, who was a good wide receiver,
three who can who has made plays There is no
excuse And Saque Barker can you know, catch out of

(19:55):
the backfield, which we'll get to. We saw that him
do that. There is no reason for you to just
give up on a play regardless.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Of but like kind of mailing a play call, yeah
and yeah to to call a play that has the
chance to be least less successful or less efficient than
another play. And you're just kind of saying, and I
kind of understand I say this, I don't like it,

(20:26):
just like you. But if the sentiment was, hey, like
they're our defense is ruling, we feel confident that they
won't be able to move the ball on us, maybe
some credence to that. But like like Greg said, after
the fumble, and which is another thing that's uncharacteristic, fumble

(20:47):
from jailing because he usually doesn't go down to the
ground in that fashion, you know, But kudos too.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I want to say, was it Quay or it was
Cooper Verrian Cooper we.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Liked out of college that punched it out.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I mean two catches for a j two targets, almost
like he was a decoy last night a little bit.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I'm not a fan of that.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
I'm not a fan of just and now it's maybe
one play, right, where's a third down, third and long?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
What have you. But earlier in the year three.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Four, five weeks two, we were having these conversations, it
felt like it was the whole series. Yeah, the series
was doomed to start and you have these better plays.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
It's just more consistency, right, more consistency.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
And.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
We lead the league in three Yeah, it's it's and
it's by a wide margin, by a wide margin. And
it's frustrating because it feels like you you we said
this before. It feels like when they get behind the sticks,
whether penalty or miscues or you know, a negative run,

(22:03):
that automatically kills it because like get behind the sticks
and then one in completion and then third and long,
Oh well, we're gonna just give up, like that's it's
it's maddening. And I did this team, this roster is
too talented to have that type of mindset. So I
don't know if it's Nick Sirianni or if it's Kevin Petullo,

(22:25):
both that that are saying that you know, to have
that approach, but I just I don't agree with it.
I think it's it's.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
A middle and the kind of carry over a conversation
from last night's show just on the subject Kevin Petulo,
it's I think he's gotten better with this play calling
and designed somewhat where he's taking more concepts in.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
But if I was his worst part in his worst
his worst con it's his. Sometimes it feels like no
posts on the game and the sequencing, yeah, play calls,
they just don't go together. It's like, oh, yeah, what
happened happened A three four?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, there's no flow to it. It's just it just
seems random. There's no like yeah, and like there were
there were signs of improvement, but again, like this game,
it just again when it felt like it went back
to square one to give more into the nitty Grittyes,
so we talked about miscues, talked about the conservative uh
you know, play calling on third down, third lungs, bad

(23:32):
sequence sequencing.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
For the run game, I think that, you know, I was.
I was charting pre injury, pre and post Lane Johnson injury.
So there were thirty eight snaps total of Lane being
in there because he did come back, so I did.
I did include those thirty eight offensive snaps with Lane Johnson.

(24:00):
Out of those thirty eight, seventeen were under center. If
we're not including push push, so seventeen snaps of under
center that's like a high rate. So they were continuing
to use under center. Out of all those under center plays,
four of them were play action. Okay, So again they're
they're including a play action. The tough part this game

(24:22):
was that the play action wasn't working. The play action
off under center was not working. There was an incompletion
on a throwaway. There was an eight yard completion to Goddard,
and then there was another incompletion to Godard and then
another throwaway. So it really did not work today. You
know this this game, which is unfortunate, but it happens now.

(24:44):
In terms of Jumbo, there were twelve snaps of Jumbo
with Lane Johnson in there. And what I noticed and
if you can see, well i'll dictate. I'll dictate here
for you. So as if I'm going chronological order, there
was a fifteen yard run start off the game from
Jumbo two yards seven seven negative two three five five

(25:09):
two two one one. All right, So I think if
you're looking from like an overall picture and how I
think that it started off pretty well and then just
went down as the game went on. And I feel
like the Packers were just really getting a bead on
what we were doing in the run game, and we're

(25:31):
attacking it really aggressively, like their their back seven was
really coming downhill and and and really playing their their
their run fits really well, and and so there was
nowhere to go. So I think, again, good stuff with
Lane in there in doing what has been working. A

(25:53):
good defense like the Packers was able to They were
able to stimy it. You got it out, throw another CounterPunch,
gotta throw another wrinkle, you know, to be able to
counter that.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Without Lane, this is what's staggering. Without Lane, there was
So there were twenty six total snaps without Lane. There
were only three under hinter snaps twenty six and one
of them was a play action which is incomplete, but
it was the one that was a defensive pass interference,
so you get that. And then there was only one

(26:26):
snap of Jumbo, which had a six yard run. So again,
like I really I I had said that I feel
like when Lane came out during the game, I said,
I feel like they're gonna go away from Jumbo, and
they did. They they went away from a lot of
the under center. They went away from Jumbo until he
came back. So you know, I'm glad he came back.

(26:48):
But that was a try. I feel like you see that,
and it going Jumbo and under center was a big
part of the game plan that they could scrap without lane,
so you know, think that what is it?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
What the under center? And I get it.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
With the play action, it's it's harder to conceptually from
a concept perspective, right, Conceptually, it's going to be harder
for play action to hit when it's a cover for
or cover cover six, just zone and because the whole
motion of play actions you need a man to bite
and to take debate right, and you're going to have

(27:26):
that a little bit easier if you're playing man and man.
And that was like, no, I'm not. You have you
literally have two wide receivers that are consistent man beaters,
So I'm not going to do that. I'm not going
to expose myself like that the one and then like the.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
The sceam route to Calca Terror that was open. So
that's why I think that was a miss. So that
was there.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
They didn't call it enough, and I would have if
I was KP, I probably would have called that more,
called that seam route and throw it and connect on
it until they forced him to do something.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Else like that.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I feel like that that if he doesn't fumble on
that first drive and we get seven there, I feel it.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Would have been different.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
It would have been different.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yes, Yeah, the conservatives or the sinus or lack thereof
to push the envelope for verbally speaking, that sentiment, that
feeling wouldn't have been there.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, well yeah, I agree. I agree with that you
touched on. You talk about like the Packers running a
lot of cover six, you know, and you talk about
the misticaka terror. Yeah, like it felt like after they
came out in the second half, they they had those
so that there were two throws the twenty two yard
hitter to guard, which is a good, good play and

(28:49):
good throw by by Jalen Hurts in the middle of
the field intermediate. I guess, well, I guess you could
say it's a deep pass twenty two yards but really
good design and throw there. And then that followed up
with the ka katara. That's just you know, that's a
miss that Hurts has to connect on. But they it
seemed like they made a concerted effort out of the

(29:09):
half to attack that side of the field with the
Packers cover six, and you know that people are wondering
what happened with a J. Yeah, it's with the Packers
playing a lot of cover six, you know. AJ consistently
ended up having a safety over the top on his
side because you know, AJ usually is the isolated receiver

(29:32):
to the boundary and with Cover six, you're you play
you play half field of half field safety to that
side to the boundary. So AJ had that and so
that might have contributed to you know, him not really
having a bunch of targets. What should they have made

(29:57):
more of an effort to find a way to beat that?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I think so yeah, I mean that's that's easy.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
A Brown like you got to come up with ways
to attack and beat that side of Cover six.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
So I almost wish, like the route tree within the
playbook they allowed AJ to expound more because it almost
makes it seem like Devontaeble the last two or three
games has been more malleable, right, But that's just for
him playing his position and what his rout tree is
according to the playbook. And there's one play particular, I
think it was like a third and six or third

(30:34):
and seven, and DeVante sat down right in his own
across the middle, sat there the crossers, and it's difficult
because when you had the digs and across is that
they typically run with AJ, and you're running that against
the formation of zone.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
The man doesn't the dbatsin is I have to run.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
So you have these split seconds of windows that you
can you can hit Peter right. And the other side
of this is, let's not forget like they were literally
lining Micah Parsons and Rashaun Gary up side and they
have Devonte Wyatt at the same with pressure from the inside.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So we could say these things.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
It wasn't like Jalen had all the time in the world.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Didn't didn't. Yeah, they were.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
To make these throws right, But that's where hey, like,
you need to hit on the opportunities that.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
You do have, and they have done that in the past.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
That's why that twenty two yard of the gotter when
that hits, they come right back and go to Kakatara
he hits that throw that I think that they would
have been at inside of the ten yard line at
that point.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Who knows what happened, right, And then you saw you
saw us first of the run game.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
We kind of talked about it vaguely before we came on,
but Shan Gary with the leg whip that wasn't called.
And then everybody's talking about the Micael one because that
was so obvious that that was a trip.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, I posted on Twitter when it's going off. I
got Packers fans in my mentions like really angry at
me for pointing it out and disagreeing. But you can
go see the play. I mean, we're gonna highlight it
actually and well and you can talk about it.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Tota is done serviceable, but we need camp back. Yeah yeah,
and hopefully which is right, which is right?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Which is rightfully so I don't feel as if anybody
be shocked by that. But especially with the under center runs,
if you're running that inside zone with cam dragons, it's
a different story.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
To the level and to move you can pull him better.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, looked like he was faster as the game.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
We don't because you saw it in the first couple
of qurters. It was like, are you yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Are you right? Are you h Yeah? Yeah, it seemed like,
especially after that fifteen yard run, I was worried. I
was like, did he re injure it? Yeah? Yeah, But
he did get better as a as a game went on.
He got what was there and so like, I don't
think any of the runs were really his problem. Other
stuff in the passing game you mentioned, you know, the

(32:53):
defensive line of the Packers. They really played well. They
gave our offensive line a lot of fits. The one
of the issues right now or in this game was Jim,
like you said, didn't have much time to throw, and
he was he was really he was really setting the

(33:14):
pocket back far back beyond the line of scrimmage, really
deep pocket. And it didn't help that a lot of
the Eagles route concepts or a lot of the Eagles
like play calls, they only had three receivers out on
the route. So like when you're playing cover six, that's

(33:34):
not ideal, Like not a lot of not a lot
of receivers are gonna get open when there's only three
receivers out on the route. So it's just, you know, bad.
It was a very questionable approach to game plan from
the passing games perspective, the approach for the run game,
I can see what it was, as I mentioned before,

(33:55):
you know, with laying in there, I could see what
they were trying to do. But yeah, the passing game
just it was a mess. And we'll get into some
of the stuff when we do the ramp the clips.
Trying to see if there's anything else I wanted to know.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
One thing I hit on is just with the cover
six and the seeing it, like where is the correlation?
And then I think lane going down for those twenty
six snaps. One of the other ways you can kind of,
like you said, counter act cover six is if you
just go empty and you spread everything out for my
receiver sets. But with this type of defensive line that

(34:30):
you were seeing and a push that they were getting
somewhat consistently.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's and where you were at, where you were.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
At, and the spot and the game from a score perspective, right, So, like,
at no point did I feel as if the Packers
are going to force the issue for the Eagles to
react in a certain way.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I felt like at some point, if the levee was
going to break, it was going to break in.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Our favor what you did.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
So, now from that point forward, Packers had a counter
act every time, and our defense was up for the call.
But then we couldn't capitalize on that from an offensive
respective whether it be we're at a third and five,
I think it was third and five, and then really
it was I want to say it was Dickerson that
moved first, but then they end up getting my lota

(35:18):
on it. Then that puts you at third to ten
and then now at that point exactly, and that's that
was kind of uncharacteristic. So things like that have to
be butting up is because when you're paying against that
type of caliber defense, right and the offense like you're
gonna you may not trying to think the rest of

(35:38):
the teams in their schedule.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
So they have Lions, Cowboys, Bears. That's the rest of the.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Games this month for for this month, and then I
think next month you have Bills. You got the Commanders
in there twice, which I mean, that's looking.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Like that very welcome, very well.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
You got you got the Commanders twice, you got the Bills.
I think you've got the Raiders in there somewhere.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
December is I can pull.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
You got Chargers in there somewhere too.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
We do. Chargers is the eighth December is on Monday
Night football. That is in LA, but it's you know LA,
it's a home game for us. Then you got the
Raiders the next week on December fourteenth on the Sunday,
and then I believe the Commander's game is scheduled to flex,

(36:39):
but that's the following week. It's supposed to be on
a Saturday of the twentieth, and then the week after
is when you have the Bills on the twenty eighth,
and then and you end the schedule with the Commanders
with a team.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
So so defensively, probably the Chargers is probably the best
defense if you're going to have left. Yeah, as far
as how if you if you want to use our
weapons against them passing the ball and you can't run it,
if you can't run the ball against them, then it's

(37:14):
going to be it could be difficult.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
It could be difficult.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
So all right, let's get to some clips. So I'm
going to.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Hit any of the comments as we like you said,
with rare occasion, we go live.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, I've been pulling some of this up, I know.
Greg Miller also says Doctor's Defense has some Georgia Bulldogs
on it like Philly Devonte, Wyatt Walker and Javon Bullard
as well as uh stack House and so yeah, they
have them Georgia players on there. And then Kaz says
time for the runn Game to awaken. Yeah, I think
they they it will. I think it will. I'm still

(37:52):
confident in the run Game to wake up. All right,
So it gets into some clips. The first one I
want to bring up. This is a good There weren't
many good things that KP and this offense did, but
this one was one of them. We've got motion by
Smitty across the formation free snap, and why is it
good is because usually Eagle's motion doesn't really mean anything,

(38:15):
but and here it does. So you get motion out wide,
and you get the you get the play action too.
I believe that's Bigsby and yeah, Bigsby, and then you
have Davante on that screen, so it's it's set up
really well. As you can see, all the packers definders
were flowing the office away, so there's a lot of

(38:36):
space for Smithy to work with. This almost went for
an even bigger game. I know some people were trying
to say, like, oh, this would have been a house called.
No this is this was not gonna be a touchdown
Klay Walker's right there, but it would have. It could
have been an even that Williams McKinney quay and then.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
That's who Devonte ultimately end are scoring a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
William Yeah, Evan Williams correct safety. So yeah, it's a
good play. And I think Baldy had did a breakdown
where he said he wants more of these play calls,
you know, for the Eagles. I agree. I mean, like
over all, the Eagles have never haven't been a good
screen team since Indy Reid or I guess maybe you

(39:24):
can say chick Kelly, but you know, stuff like this. This,
This is a good design, good screen screenplay. So kudos
to them. I like it. Anything else you want to add.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
No, I liked it as far as emotion sets, starting
off from the formation, motion into that side to create
that space kind of when no longer follow me, it
goes zone. Fred Johnson get stop there fast. And it
was just a really good tackle. I mean, maybe DeVante
gets another five yard six yards yeah, yeah, most and

(39:55):
he has that boundary side to his advantage. I mean,
but it came to a point that was a second
and twenty Yeah, first half, nine two two left.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
So yeah, all right, So that's that good screen called.
Hopefully we'll see more of that moving forward. The second
player I wanted to bring up this is right before halftime,
so we just got in that fumble and we discussed
this in the chat a little bit. I I still think,

(40:28):
looking at this, this is a missed opportunity by Hurts
regardless of the of the situation. But you can see, uh,
we have Smitty at the top here highlighted. He's going
to be the target and it's gonna zoom in here.
You can see Hurts in the pocket. Now when he
when he hits his drop right, I want to run

(40:48):
a little bit right, so he hits the top of
this drop. Usually you want the you want the quarterback
to have that, you know that to really step into
the throw after his drop right. Because Fred Johnson gets
pushed back, he is unable to really step into it,
so he kind of flat footed as you can see here.

(41:09):
And because he's flat footed, that's what makes this throw
an underthrow and he misses Smitty. If Smitty catches that,
you're at the what the forty seven forty eight yard
line with ten seconds left, and I think you still
had two timeouts, so you could have called possibly one

(41:30):
more play and then attempted a field goal. So I
think this was I don't think this gets talked about enough,
but I think this was another one of those big,
unfortunate misses by the Eagles offense where just a little
thing results in an incompletion and a missed opportunity, but.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
A too, that's kind of what that was the key indicator.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
I was like, he didn't whatever it was, he did
not throw that ball with the efficiency that he wanted
to throw.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
He didn't get much on it. But I still like,
and I understand it. I know it's it's easier said
than done one hundred percent, but I still think, like, you,
even with that pressure in the pocket, you've got to
still find a way to make that throw. You know,
if you're one of the top quarterbacks in the league,
you're you know you have that's a throw you should

(42:17):
still kind of make.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
It happens so quick it's almost like if you welcome
you don't want to do this. This is this very
splitting hairs. Splitting hairs is if you welcome that pressure.
And what Jalen doesn't like to do is roll is
to roll out and run to his left side and throw.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
But yeah, you know what I mean. So I think.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
You know we can, but this is the stuff you should.
We're saying, hey, like, we're not trying to be perfect.
This is your first time listening to us, catching us live.
We don't want them to be perfect, just want them
to be more efficient and put themselves in a position to.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Be able to succeed. And yeah, this is obviously.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
This is also this is also on Fred Johnson. He
gets you know, you gets pushed back in the pockets.
So like Fred has to be able to anchor down
better than this, because if he's able to anchor down
even a little bit better, hurts, probably substu throw. So
this isn't the target hurts. This is on on for
Johnson too, and just we're highlighting it because it's just

(43:15):
a missed opportunity that could have run at three points
before the half, but.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
It wasn't so bad to where he got off of
that read.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
And that's kind of like if he could have came
off that read and he didn't have time, like he
wouldn't have been able to come off that read, scan
the field to his left and stay in the same spot.
He would have had to be on the move, you
know what I mean, Like, yeah, at this point right here,
make the decisions, step up, run out right out.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah yeah, I mean you had timeouts to you, so
he could have. But from that, let's let's get into
some positive plays. And this is where the game kind
of turned. It was early fourth quarter and you've got.
This is the fourth This is the fourth uh forty
one yard catch around by saque and what you'll see here,

(44:00):
you know, it just goes to him. But if you
look at everyone's routes, all of them are going to
be to the boundary side of the you know, the
formation boundary side of the of the field. And because
of that, that opens up a lot of space for Saquon. Here.
The only receiver that's there on the same side of
the field is A J. Brown and as we all

(44:23):
know on this he's going to do a good job
of blocking down field. But you know, Saquon does an
amazing job that makes it look so easy when he
does this stuff. Now, like if there's a defender, I
don't care who it is, one on one versus Saquon
and open in open space, it's it's like automatic almost
at this point, where's going to make the miss so
spin move. Awesome stuff. And again, like we said, awesome

(44:43):
job by A J. Brown to block downfield to be
able to extend this this play for as long as
it did. But yeah, it worked out well to where
most of the routes cleared that side of the field
and hurts it a good job going through the Russians,
hitting the checkdown and letting Saquon just make something happen.

(45:04):
So awesome, awesome stuff. But did you have anything that No, No.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I mean I like the play that's on here. I
mean you get your your playmaker. And good job by
Jal and getting off to getting off doing everything in
this play that he didn't do in the last play.
Because but he had a little bit more time. And
this hey like Sakwon Barncoli open space against your DV linebacker.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I like our chances and I.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Forget who mentioned it on on Twitter, But like credit
to A. J. Brown again, like not being targeted a ton,
but he's still out here doing work as a blocker
downfield and and helping make this play. So you know,
credit to A. J. Brown. Everyone wants to say like
he's a diva blah blah blah blah, but no, this
is just shows one of the ways he's still like

(45:53):
a great teammate. So awesome stuff by aj there next play,
this is pretty much the next play. Now, there's a
lot to break down here. This is the thirty six
yard touchdown to Devonte Smith. So what I want to
point out is the defense as I put up here,
they're in quarters and as Oddly enough, there was some

(46:15):
drama on Twitter where someone tried calling out Mina Cimes,
which never works out. If you're listening and you're on Twitter,
you never never try calling out Mina Cimes. It never
works out. Like you will always end up as the
losing party in a Twitter battle with Mina Cimes. In
turns like if you try to one up her, like,

(46:36):
she's the one person you're not gonna be able to
one up she. She does the work she and she
knows what she's doing. So anyways, there was someone, some
troll that was trying to criticize her, saying, you don't
beat quarters with deep shots, and lo and behold, the

(46:56):
Eagles scored a touchdown deep against quarters. So the packers
aren't quarters here. There's Smitty highly at the top. What
I want you to notice here, and it's going to freeze,
is when you're in quarters. Let me back it up.
When you're in quarters, right, you have the corner, the
two corners, and the safeties right, so the corners are

(47:18):
going to play. You're pretty much quarter of the field.
They called quarters because you're the quarter of the field
with it for each of them. The corners are going
to take these outside routes whoever develops there, and then
the safeties are taking number two or vertical. Right, I'm
shortening it, and there's a lot more detail to it,
so if you're listening, yes, there's more to it than that,

(47:41):
but I'm trying to just say it in like you know,
Sparknes version. So so quarters, those are the assignments. So
on this play, the way it's aligned, the way it
worked out. The corner at the top he has Dotson,
I believe.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
I believe that he's waiting for Dotson enter his area
so he can come down and crash.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Dotson is technically when the ball snap, Dotson is the
number one receiver. He's on the outside of Smitty, so
he's the number one. That corner is going to match
him as long as he's there, so like that's that's him.
Same thing opposite. You have the corner at the bottom
of the screen. He is on AJ he matches a
j Okay the safety because this is a one by two,

(48:26):
this is a one by two formation. Pre snap the
safety here to the field side. He is going to
take number two, so he is matched up he's going
to match Devonte smith as we see it, Okay, so
he's gonna match up with Smithy. Now McKinney right the
other safety to the boundary right here he is because
it was a one by two formation there are he

(48:49):
is the robber, okay, so he there is no number
two receiver for him to take. So his responsibility is
to be the robber. So this is his air. He
gets to roam this area between like the thirty and
the twenty right, that's his career because he takes that approach.
As you can say, he's kind of like this kind
of eye and down the quarterback here, keeping eyes on

(49:10):
the quarterback where he's going to go, but he's caught
in when you I'd say he's kind of like no
man's land. Because of that, that's what gives Smitty, who's
going to run the post, the advantage here. He's going
to run the post, and that's how you beat quarters.
You run a post on quarters because the safety doesn't
have that help right make.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
A decision, especially if you're running something in front.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Of him yet to cross face yep, exactly, So he's
that that's what does this is because on the field
side Spinny's able to run that post without anyone really
really being there as the double coverage, he's one on
one with the safety. And that's that's a matchup we

(49:54):
take every single time, and that's why you beat quarters.
One way to beat quarters is is by running a post.
So that's what happens here. M Hurts has a pump fake.
There's no safety other there's no help from the other safety,
and Smithy is able to and this ball is a
little underthrown, but when it's when you have Devonte smith

(50:16):
you can kind of underthrow a ball and it still
couldn't be fine. So amazing job by by Smitty. Anything
you want to add, No.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Good play call good play execution? Uh, the design itself,
I like it. And then Hurt's just putting the ball
in a position to lead a little bit. But give
give our guy a chance to make a.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Play, all right. So the next one, this is the
infamous again. This is where I'm getting a lot of
heat on Twitter. And so you if you're watching this,
you tell me what you think. Okay, you you tell
me what you think. I'm gonna play and I have

(51:00):
some I'm gonna it's gonna freeze frames gonna show you
now here, here's where Micah is going to stick his
leg and trip Saque. Okay, now it's gonna go to
the end zone angle too, but I'll start it here
and so okay. So the people that are giving me grief,
they're saying that one quay Walker, the linebacker over here,

(51:24):
has a shot at him, and then McKinney here also
has a shot at him. Quay Walker's two gaps over.
If sak One is hitting this almost almost when he
if he bursts through the hole and gets to the
second level, I'm sorry, kuay Walker is not catching Saquon Barkie.

(51:45):
I don't see. I don't understand where people think kuay
Walker is going to catch him here with that he's
two gaps over. So there's too much would have too
much momentum and too much word bird burst to be
caught by kay Walker. Now, the other thing is you
have Xavier McKinney, the safety over top here. If you

(52:09):
watch this, look I'm gonna be winded just a little bit.
Look at the approach and look at where he where
McKinney steps before. You see how he's approaching after the
two steps and when it the when it stops freezing.
You can see his momentum, the angle that his momentum

(52:30):
is taking him. That angle is not going to be
He's not going to be able to catch that uh
to catch sak one. If he's taking that that angle,
he's taking it kind of like this way, you're not.
He doesn't have the speed and rarely any dB does
to catch saque running full speed from here. So this
is why I say this would have been a house

(52:52):
call because Quay is not getting them. I don't think
McKinney is getting them. And even if McKinney does have
a better angle, mckitny on one in open space. We
talked about it earlier on the forty one. Don't catch
and run it McKinney in open space versus Saquon Barkley
one on one, that's advantage sequon. So again, this is
the end zone angle and we're gonna show you here.

(53:13):
So there's a trip right quay Walker's right here, he's
two gaps over. He's not going to catch Saquon. McKinney's
over here. Look at like, I just I don't understand
why Packers fans refused to see it. And if this
was I'm gonna be totally objective and be honest here.

(53:33):
If I felt there was a good chance that Sequon
would have gotten stopped anyway, then I would admit it.
I'd say, Okay, yeah, I don't think this would be
in a house call. But I just look at this,
I'm like, this would have been a house call, that
this would have been a touchdown. We've seen Saquon break
off these type of runs where he's through the second
level and no one in the second, one third level
can keep up with them. So I'm confident. But what

(53:56):
state up you do? You agree? Like, what does this
look like?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
No house call and then it should have been electric call,
another fifteen year penalty. I like to play design, like
the push that we get this is that I think
this is that Jumbo package. Now it's weird because they
ran a Jumbo package with Fred Johnson on the opposite
side of lane.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
We usually ran him on the same song.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, they run on the opposite here, so this is
one of the successful runs out of Jumbo late in
the game when they came back in. So again like
that the Jumbo was part of the game plan, I
really feel, and it was it was working. You know
at some points, but you know this, this could have
been a housecol and I'll contribute this. I'll count this
as a as a as definite like successful run. So

(54:38):
oh yeah, yeah, I I good job. It's unfortunate. I'm
not like, if we had lost, I think I'd be
really pissed off about this. But this is more of
like I saw it and during the game I was like,
oh my god, if we lose because of this, I
would have But we won, so it's not a big deal.
But I'm using this more as like confirmation. Okay, like

(55:00):
this confirms what I felt. I felt like this wasn't
was going to be a touchdown had he not gone tripped.
So yeah, the film kind of confirms it for me.
So yes, before we get to the last one, this
says me personally, I don't have a problem to cons
you know, you have the good work. Yeah, men does.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Have like honestly genuinely has a problem.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
There are a lot of people that have a problem
with her, and it's it's for non football reasons. Is
you would be able to so oh really, yeah you should.
You should be on Twitter more to see like this stuff.
The response is she gets like, oh my God, it's.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
It's probably probably very an adult, like.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
An adult non football reasons, and I'll leave it at that.
All right. Last this is this is the the the
infamous fourth down call.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
The reason why I want to show you this is
because I think it's been talked so much, like the
past twenty four hours. It's been said now that Jalen
and AJ decided on this on this shot downfield right,
it was their decision. I don't know the details. Everyone
is speculating. You're going to ask me what I think happened.

(56:23):
I think I think Sirianni made a decision to go
for it. I think that there was a separate play call,
or maybe it was display call, but there was some
type of passing play called, and Hurts and AJ decided,
oh no, we're going one on one, We're going deep shot.

(56:44):
I think that's because everyone keeps saying like they went rogue,
they went rogue, But I think going rogue means regardless
of what the play call was, they were gonna they
were gonna go for a deep shot here. So I
think that's what happened. If I'm gonna roll this, right,
let's look at the routes that everyone else has so smitty.

(57:08):
I think this is goddard. I think dots in there's
no one open at all. There's no one open at all.
Would I still have thrown this? Uh? I don't know.
There's there's there's a single safety over top. And if
you think you have a good a good chance with AJ,

(57:29):
because AJ, that safety isn't isn't close enough to make
a play. So I when I first watched it, I
thought the safety could have made a play on it.
But watching it back, no, he wouldn't have been able
to make a play. So if this was the play call,
I get it then just trying to throw it deep

(57:50):
and you know, going going with the kill shot. But
I still think this was a bad decision go for it.
I still I still put this on Nick or whoever
it was to decide to go for and fourth. I
I am you.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Know me, Pete.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I I love being aggressive, I love offensive being aggressive.
I I love what Dan Campbell does worth down. I
think there's also I'm also aware that there's a time
and place. I think with this, the circumstances of this situation,
you're on the thirty five bad level. I still my

(58:32):
stance from last night stands, I still would have either
kicked it, kicked the field goal, or punted it. I
don't I would have been good with either decision. This
decision to me is not I wouldn't. I don't agree
with with this decision. But what do you what do
you think?

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I don't agree that I did, because at this point
it's like either make the attending and if you were
going for four down then if you should be a president,
because then at that point you're up six, like you
need to make them go as far as possible yards wise,
I personally would have put it because once again their defense,
their offense showed me nothing to really scare me on

(59:13):
on our defense to know that they would just that
we wouldn't make a stop. Because even how they got
their seven was on a good chunker that was on
a past interference call that Jaghia Campbell had on. I
want to say it was Luke Musgrave. If I'm not mistaken.
Is the backup tight end there?

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Well he's a starter now.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Yeah, I mean when Craft is healthy, I think they
literally drafted them both.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
And I want people most people actually the most people
was actually taken.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Before Craft mm hmm, yeah, just has well has to
pan out to craft.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
We'll see, We'll definitely see. But I mean I wouldn't
have done it.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
And this is why I said, we'll go back to
the beginning of the show where we talked about Sirianni
kind of getting lucky. You know, we saw a couple
of coaches this past week get it because Stiching the
coach to lose the game, kept going for it. You know,
that had almost almost costing the game. And then now

(01:00:16):
with this, like you just the ultimate decision to go
for a fourth and six. If you look at that
probability chart and they don't hit that, it probably went
for like sixty percent down to like fifty or forty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
And the package work very close to getting into the
field games they almost had that shot.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
That's what That was the worst game in the kick
I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
So you're talking about somebody giving up a player came o?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
God, yeah, anything else from this game before you move
on to our our preview?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
No you get it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Well, come again on six the sixteenth. It's coming Sunday,
another primetime game, Sunday Night football.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Sunday Night football. Yep, all right, So I'm excited to
talk about this game real quick because it's Ram Seahawks,
and if you're being a non biased Eagles fan or
just being a non biased fan whatsoever, I think there's
a legitimate case you could make that the Seahawks and
Rams are the two best teams in the NFC. Uh

(01:01:21):
So them playing each other this Sunday is like awesome stuff.
Don't be surprised if you're watching this, don't be surprised
if our show next week we lead it off with
the Rams Seahawks. So you know, depending on how the
Eagles Lions game goes too, maybe maybe we'll we'll break
down both games. But this the the Egles Lions and

(01:01:46):
then Seahawks Rams, very very enticing and intriguing matchups ahead
of this week eleven Slate, you want to lead it
off with what you're what you are looking forward to this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
If the Seahawks can do it against this type of
interdivisional game, in interconference game, not conference interdivisional game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
And I think it's in l A's in l A. Yeah,
this is the test.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
This is the litmus test for if what we're seeing
up until this point and all this love that to
get in if it's real. Yeah, this is this is,
this is the one if it's real, because.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Rams rolling right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
They are both both of these teams before rolling.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
But I mean that's also goes quarterback, the quarterback Stafford
who wants Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Who we we are. We think the world of Matt Stafford.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
We think he's underrated versus Sam Darnold, who may have
found some resurgence last year in it this year but
guess what, man still saw some goat and whatever reason.
I don't know how many carries a canine half Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
It was like fourteen ish and both of them had
like fourteen around.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
I don't I don't understand what's going on with well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
They're bro like, I don't know, no one knows. Like
it's You've got people. You've got people that are defending
and saying Sharps is better. You got people saying it
needs to be. There are people that think Sharps is
better than I'm just yeah, I don't know what they see,
but I think a lot of it are fantasy heads

(01:03:34):
because they you know, they they see touchdowns and the
higher fantasy scare so they think Sharp's better. But anyways, yeah,
I am part of it. I am on the side
of this rotation doesn't help either of them. Yeah, like, yeah,
I get that Sharps is getting touchdown. So it's not
really like you can argue fantasy wise, it's not you know,

(01:03:55):
it's not hurting him. But in terms of actually, so
the Seahawks run game is one of the worst in
the league. Why do you think that is? Is because
the rotation And it's not even like there's the rhyme
rhyme or reason to the rotation. If you watch them,
they sub each oge they sub in and out both

(01:04:16):
of them. They sub in and out like at random
situations and random snaps.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
It's like it's not like with the Tyler I Geer
and beyond.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Is yeah, or it's not even fully like you remember
when the Falcons when they ran on a Super Bowl run,
they have the combo literally Kyle Shanahan's approach was Davante,
this whole series is yours. The next one, Keevin, this
whole series is yours. That was and then they alternate. Cool,

(01:04:49):
that's not even the case here, Like it's you'll have
Canine being there one for one play, and then he'll
sub out to be there for one play, and then
he'll sub out again and came out and go back.
There's I don't understand like the rotation, and I think
that it doesn't help either of them, and especially I
think it doesn't help Kanine because with him being the

(01:05:10):
better running back, he's not able to get into a
momentum and then get into any type of rhythm.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Unlike the Rams because Kyle Williams if we can hold
onto the football. But we're starting to see Blake korm
get more involved on a consistent game in the game basis.
So I mean this this the game as a whole,
is a game that you would want in the eleventh
week of the season. And it means a lot because
both teams I think are seven and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Two or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
I want to say, both of them are seven and two.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I have I'll have it here right, give me one
both of them. Ye, both of them are seven and two. Yeah,
both of them and two. So it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
So the Seahawks the would loser of the game because
then you go from like I think Seattle is first
place right now the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
I don't know what the tie breakers are, but you
could be right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
I think their divisional record because the Rams have a
divisional loss against the forty, so then maybe one on
one and I think the Seahawks are.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yeah, Seahawks are, Yeah, they have they have the tiebreakers,
so you know there's sevething there against it. It doesn't
say what the record against the division is, but they
have the tiebreaker essentially. But and then obviously the Niners
are there at sex and four. But yeah, the uh
it is a huge game. I think I'm looking so

(01:06:34):
you know, the run game. It's hard when you look
up like they're each team's like stats and you know
on both sides of the ball, like both of them
are like both defense are. Defenses are phenomenal, So it's
hard to really pick out, Okay, where can you attack
each defense because it's both of them went healthy. I
know that the Seahawks, yes, they had like there that

(01:06:56):
game against was it the Bucks where they couldn't stop them,
But keep it mind so many of their their secondary
was hurt so they didn't but now they're back, so
they're healthy. With them healthy like that defense doesn't have
a lot of weaknesses. Same thing with the Rams doesn't
have a lot of weaknesses right now. But if I'm
looking at matchups, what I what I think is a

(01:07:19):
key the key matchup the Seahawks run game. I don't
think it's gonna have any success against this Rams defense.
Is so the Seahawks are the most explosive passing offense
in the league. Twenty two point eight percent of their
pass play results in an explosive player. That's almost a

(01:07:39):
fourth of their pass plays are are exposive plays. The Rams,
to counter that, are the fifth best in the NFL
at preventing explosive passes at thirteen point eight percent. So
that the reason why I'm highlighting that matchup is because
while I have confidence I think there, I do have

(01:08:03):
some confidence in the Seahawks corners and secondary being able
to match up somewhat against the Rams. I think that
with the with the Rams secondary, I don't know if
they have someone who can match up against Jaysn. And
to be honest, I don't know if there's anyone in
the league outside of maybe Patrick sartan uh that can

(01:08:27):
match up against Jaysn right now because he is absolutely
on a tear. You don't think qut Q, maybe maybe Quinon.
So yeah, maybe I I scould say maybe I should
Mintion Quinon too, because like Quinon does excel against the
quicker type of receivers, so yeah, throw so certain Quinon like,

(01:08:47):
but there are there aren't a lot of corners that
can match up well against jays N And you're looking
at at the Rams, you know, secondary, and they have
good they have good pieces, especially like Quentin Lake. Quinin
Lake is balling one of the better, like Nichols safety
in the league right now. But you know Kobe Durant,
Emmanuel Forbes and Quentin So and then the safeties consists

(01:09:12):
of Cam Crow we can't and can't catch it. So
like good names, but are they the caliber of corner
to be able to to stop or or limit JSM
I say no. So that's where I think the key
matchup is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
And oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah Cooper Cup revenge game, there's that. And then remember
they have Shaheed now and they started to get him
involved a little bit last week in this first game.
That should only begin to you know, continue to Downy.
So that's what I'm looking at. I'm looking at this
Seahawks passing attack. They're exposive passing attack against the Rams

(01:09:53):
pass defense. Can they be I think that if the
Seahawks can continue to be what they are and kind
of yeah, then I think advantage Seahawks, so that at.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
A vantait Seahawks, But I think the Rams win the game.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
You think it's gonna be a shootout? What do you think?
You don't have to give a score prediction.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
But I mean divisional teams are always weird because they're
either really tight or it's wide open.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
This is the first one too of the season between them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
I don't know. I just is with this spoon healthy?

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Yeah, he's back. I think whatever, if.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
The over said like fifty one and a half, I
think I feel like I would take the over over.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Okay, I would take the over.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yep. Remember Josh job is there too for the Seahawks.
Who's been playing. He's been playing really well, you know,
nick Emm and worry is starting to come on for them,
and then Nickel he's playing really really well. They're you know,
they're they're saying the sun and I'm not saying again,
to be fair, I'm not saying that the Seahawks can
stop the combo of Pukua Nicola and DeVante Adams. What

(01:11:11):
I'm saying is I have a little bit more faith
in that matchup than I do the other way around,
if that makes sense. So that's what I'm watching. But again,
I could be wrong. It could totally the I would
would I be surprised if the rams totally lit up
that secondary? No, I want to be surprised now. I
want to be surprised if this game and like forty

(01:11:32):
one to thirty eight. So yeah, I'm excited for it.
Did you want to give a score prediction? I'm not.
I'm not good at score prediction prediction. Okay, cool? Uh
so yeah that's at four. That game is at what fo?

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Four? No, four or five four five on someday. Make
sure you tune in for that. All right, no, huddle?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
What you got nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Nothing, I have non football related Go see Predator bad
Lands when you get the chance.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
So there are a lot of movies that I that
I really want to see right now, but I probably
won't be able to see. We did just buy tickets
to see z Utopia in a few weeks with Gray
because he's starting to really like be good with watching movies.
So we're excited for that. And Mary and I are
trying to find out a date when we can watch

(01:12:26):
the sequel to Wicked. Wicked for good going to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
My wife and my girls, I don't get the appeal
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Good music. Mary loved that musical. So when it came
to the like when it became a movie, like it
was a thing. And I'll admit, like the first one
surprised me. And I'm not big on musicals. I'm not
big on musicals at all. Rarely do I find like
a musical made into a movie that I enjoy. But
that one was good, so I'm excited for it. But yeah,

(01:12:57):
there are a lot I want to see. Predator bad Lands.
There were a few other ones coming out or that
are out now that I'm like, I could see that.
I wish I could see it. I think, what the
Running Man with Glenn Powell, who's the leader? Who's the
leading that Glenn Powell?

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Okay, yeah, the New Decades Ryan Gosling, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Right, or he like you said, he wants to be
the next Tom Cruise. So that, uh, for mine. One
game that we didn't get the touch on was the
we were going to talk about the Patriots bucks uh,
Pats of legit and and I'll say this, they won

(01:13:42):
with Drake may not even playing that that grade of
the game, and they still won. That defense played really well.
But you know what, shout out to both Trevon Henderson
who had two explosive runs today. He is a bit
of like a feast or famine type of runner. Of
his yardage did come on those two two long runs,

(01:14:03):
but hey, what he's here for. Yeah, but that's what
he's here for. He's here for explosive play. So he
finally had his breakout game. And Sean Tucker, man, it's
been it's slow and steady, but I think the past
two weeks now he's out, he's out paced White. I
don't know no that he'll come back eventually. They just

(01:14:27):
they're they're playing his injury weird. I wouldn't be surprised
if he come back, comes back next week. But if
he's not back next week, like I think, you could
continue to see Tucker out pacing White like they'll they'll
still split the carries, but I think they're there. It's showing.
And I said this is one of my hot takes
before the season was Seawn Tucker is going to start

(01:14:48):
to overtake White, and I think we're starting to see it.
He's out based on two straight games, so you know,
White is probably the better overall layer in terms of
like he can catch, He's gonna catch him the ball
in the backfield. But Tucker, I think when it comes
to pure running, is the better runner. So shout out
to them into both of those running backs. And then
last thing I want to hit on Lake Yo, what

(01:15:10):
the heck happened with the Bills getting blown up by
the Dolphins?

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Man, That's why I said this this this year is
so weak to week.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Bro, It's it's so weak.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Divisional games kind of mean something and not kind of
me something. They definitely get or getting a little wonky,
you know, definitely a little wonky as far as just consistency.
Like you, I think you asked me about did you
ask me about the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Wasn't the Falcons? Who did you ask me about? He
was like, are they playing up to the competition or
playing down.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
To the comedy? Oh yeah, yeah, you know it was
the Vikings versus the Colts because it was a tight
game for the most of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
All Falcons coats Falcons coats.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yeah, so because they played the London game and I
I texted you Germany, Germany, Germany game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Sorry, there's a game, and there's a game this week
in Madrid. That's Commanders, Vikings.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Dolphins or Vikings hold on, I have it here, Dolphins Dolphins.
God anyway, No, but yeah, I had asked you, like,
is this because this is the second game we saw
where the Colts offense was kind of like struggling a
little bit m hm. I asked you, is this the
Colts coming down Earth? Or is this or is this

(01:16:32):
the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Being Yeah, I think it was kind of a little
bit of both. But then the Colts kind of walked
themselves up and really.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Jonas was Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Yeah, he's He's I don't know at this point who
else you would vote for even with the QB, because.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
I'll put it to vote for some run he has
a seventy yard run and now he has an eighty
yard run.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
I mean this is again like I'll say this too,
I would vote for Jonathan Taylor and Jsen before I
vote for a QB for MVP, I personally, but you know,
in God's greed, like the the the voters are not
gonna vote for a non QB. They're gonna vote for

(01:17:20):
a QB unfortunately. So yeah, but Jonathan doesn't serve it. Uh.
Before we get out of here, great Miller doesn't want
to ask us, what do you guys think about here?
I was going to step away from the Eagles. I
mean I think that if he he says he needs
to get right mentally, do what you need to do,
what you need to do, you're you know, our prayers

(01:17:41):
are our thoughts and suffer with you. Just do what
you need to do. So uh yeah, and I think
that he's not officially retiring. He's just stepping away for
a bit to figure yourself out. So he's not retired.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yet.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
So just keep that in mind if you're wondering, like,
why is he on the retired list, because he's not
officially retiring yet. But yeah, thoughts to him and hope
he does well. All right, bro, good show, awesome and
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