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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, what's good everybody, it's your boys. It's a two
d's Flyers Talk a two day. We are live reacting
to hopefully a better third period than we got in
the second period of this Flyers game. Holy hell, we're
gonna talk about that. We're also going to talk a
little postgame. We also have Flyers offensive struggles. What could

(00:24):
be the cause of this right now? Could it be talent?
Could it be size? Could it be could be another
underlying cause? We got so much to talk about. Hit
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to a brand new edition of Flyerstock,
a two D right here on h D Radio dot com.
I am Massa City, along with the Dark Wing Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Daly, what's up everybody?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
And the Broken One Rob Hoovia.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I heard there were a few trades of the NFL today.
Anybody hear anything?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
There were a few.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
We'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
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And the pole question, as you saw before, the Flyer's

(01:49):
lack of size has been a big part of their
offensive struggles early on. Agree or disagree? Obviously, Flyers have
had some moments here and there where the offense hasn't
exactly been on fire. There have been good knights and
bad nights. However, though it has been stated the Flyers

(02:10):
may not be the biggest team in the league, and
they're not incorrect with that assessment. So the question is,
after having just witnessed what was a very bad second
period from the Flyers, how do we feel right now
about this gentleman? Agree or disagree on this pole?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I mean, I'm definitely gonna agree. Is we got to ye,
I'm definitely gonna agree. I think one of the things
that this team is definitely missing has been sized, and
we saw them address that in the draft this year.
I think it's a very noticeable. The hole that they
have is is you know, the big body that's going
to wind up in front of the net. You know,

(02:52):
you go out, you get a jack Ness, but you
have a jet Lachenko. These are guys that could potentially
fill that role. Sean Coturier is doing the best that
he can in that situation. He seems to be the
only one who get wants to get in front of
the net. You know, some of these other guys, they
like to play around the perimeter, which is fine, but
one of the things that talk has been hammering into
these guys over the last couple of games has been,

(03:12):
you know, we need to get guys in the hard
parts of the ice. You know, these guys are taking
shots on the perimeter. That's easy ice. You know, you
got to get guys in the gritty, dirty areas. That's
where a lot of secondary chances are gonna gonna happen.
You know, we've talked I feel like we've talked about
this over the last few years, but that's something they
definitely need to address. They got to get bigger, They've
got to get some of these bodies into sight lines,

(03:35):
and you know, it's it was a tough second period
to watch, but yeah, they'd still got some scoring chances
and hopefully we see we see them change that and
guys like Terrier and Dvorak and we just saw Delorier,
you know, utilize the size that they have, right.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I will say, I like the fact that Delorier dropped
the gloves here kind of give to the team a
bit of a spark. I don't know why Montreal decided
to answer that. If I was them, I would kind
of just try to ignore that because you know, you
don't want to give the other team inspiration. And Delourier,
I feel won that fight. So it's like the Flyers

(04:17):
might have a little pep in the step now in
the third period. And it's only a one goal game.
So it's yeah, Montreal swung it in the second period
right into their favor, but again, stress this it's one
goal game. If the Flyers score at some point early
in the third period, we're back to even. So I

(04:39):
don't know, I feel like that was a bit of
a misstep on Montreal's part. I mean, great for the Flyers,
but a bit of a misstep on their part there.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love the old school sherwood shoulder Patsy has on there.
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
But Robbie, how do you feel about it?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
On the other side, I think people like Brian are
overreacting right now to what we're seeing. I mean, yeah,
this last period, second period, there's no doubt about elet
four goals right. The first goal was awful pup luck
bouncing off the backboards and then right, and then the
second was I didn't I'll admit I didn't see the

(05:21):
other two goals, but that pass from Demidoff was just
a thing of beaut that I don't think many goaltenders
are going to stop, or many defenses are going to
have an answer for. But let's not do how dominant
they looked over these Montreal Canadians, How they looked faster, stronger.
Now Montreal is also a small team too, so maybe
even another smaller team could look bigger. And that's been

(05:45):
evident in uh, you know, time of possession earlier on
in the season. But from what I've been seeing boys
since my time off, right, even with a few losses
in tow they have solved that time of possession. They're
winning the face offs, they're winning the puck battles. We're
seeing gorgeous play from Trevor Zegers tonight, awesome vision, awesome

(06:07):
finish from Bobby Brink. And this is a team that's
minus a few pieces right now too. So overall, I
I mean size, Yeah, I mean it is an issue,
and it's hard to absolutely disagree with the poll. But
I don't think it's been a big part of the
offensive struggles because I don't like what struggles like. Like,

(06:29):
I've seen this team perform and perform well. And we're
talking ten games into the sea into the season. Boys,
am I correct?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah? Eleven eleven.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I can't. I wasn't here to do math.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's all good. I was including tonight.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Check out the big Breamingum, it's not that big.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's a lot of size.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I will say this, I think that when it comes
to the reaction of people freaking out over you know,
how the oh my god, I do a little bit
better than that on that rush. But anyway, I would
say the way the reaction is going, with how the

(07:21):
Flyers have played these last two games, I want to
stress this that we were going to have a come
down at some point. The Flyers were gonna be able
to keep this up forever, you know, like remember, this
is still a team that is filled with a lot
of young players, and some of them are still very raw.

(07:42):
So we're we're dealing with a situation where, yeah, there
are veterans on this team, but there's still a lot
of youth on this team that is, you know, growing,
which is nice to see. I mean, we've seen some
great play from guys like Forrester, and we've seen great
play from Owen tip It and you know and Brank

(08:03):
and that's wonderful stuff, and that's great, but again, young talent,
so let's remember that, you know, I think that also
when you have a team like this, you're going to
have a little bit more of a rollercoaster of a
season than you would normally. I mean, the Flyers are

(08:27):
not the kind of team that's although they are trying
to really push here, which is nice to say, they're
not the kind of team that's going to be at
the top standings, you know, for the entire year, or
be in a position where it's like, oh, okay, we're
we're safe. You know, I'm not worried about it, because
they'll they'll turn it around and they'll rear back and

(08:48):
we'll make the playoffs. Like we did the per previous year.
They're not one of those teams. So to me, it's
just like, I get why everybody's worried. I get why
they're concerned. I understand that. But at the same time,
it's like it was a great start. The comdown had
to happen at some point, and we're just we were
in a process of that. The question is, though, is

(09:10):
how bad is it gonna be? You know, is the
come down to Earth gonna be shattering or is it
gonna be one of those where it's like, Okay, a
little bit of a you know, a little bit of
the bacteriality moment there. Now it's time to turn this
background and say, okay, okay, we had that fun start.
Now let's start grinding out some wins here after a

(09:30):
couple of rough losses.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah. Well, I'm also seeing this team out shooting in
Montreal Canadians in their building thirty three to twelve, which.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Is nice, right, yeah, right, And I'm not taking that away.
I'm not saying that at all. And that's that's why
I'm thinking it's a bit of everybody's kind of overreacting
a little bit, you know, to the to the last
few losses. You know that the Flyers took.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Right, right, I agree with you, And it's like, yeah,
you got to expect the ups and downs for a
team that's building this brick by brick. That's what the
whole mojo of this season is, right, taking that next step.
And I just feel from what I'm seeing, if you're
looking at the small elements of the game, I'm seeing

(10:20):
a lot of good play. If you want to talk
about maybe coaching decisions, there could be a couple questionable
things there right in terms of seeing Mitchkoff play being
played so low down, you know, like not getting now.
Mind you, he's moved up now because of necessity due

(10:40):
to injury, but there's been there's been a question of
ice time. But in the end, right, we're seeing this
team finish off plays which this team has least finished
over the last few years. Let's quite let's be honest,
let's not kid ourselves, right, but not only finish on
the goals, but finish on the games too. And Bobby
is stud stud Puffy making the name Bobby Proud, right,

(11:05):
and just you know, it's just exciting seeing these kids
brow and it's just a really good time to be
a fan.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, yeah, and I think that you know where where
the Flyers are at right now. It's like, you know,
anytime they have a bad period or they have a
bad moment or two, it's like again, it's like it's
a learning moment for them. You know. It's not like
it's not like this team is a consistent playoff contender.
I mean, even if they were and they were going
through the last couple of losses that they went through,

(11:35):
I don't think anyone would be freaking out as much
as they are. To be brutally honest, like, if they
were a consistent playoff team and they were one of
the top teams in the in the East every year,
Don't get me wrong, they will always be the ones
who will bitch about it. But then they'll also be
there'd be plenty of people wo be like, I'm not
worried about it. They'll just turn it around because they're
gonna make it this year like they always do. I

(11:57):
feel like because we're in that state where okay, we
don't know, oh where the Flyers are going to go.
You know, the Flyers could do something this year, or
maybe they'll do what they did last year where they
won't really do much except just try to work on
the youth and build up with that progress. So I
think that that's why people are they're getting antsy about

(12:17):
it because they want to see it. This good play, oh,
good shot, but good safe.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean, the one thing I do like about this
team that they've done really well this year is the
top two pairings have been really two of the top
best pairings in the NHL. You're going into this game.
I believe they were first and fourth in the top
five in goals giving up preparing which one was just

(12:44):
under two and the other one was just under three.
So there's I mean, there's a lot of really good things.
Are a lot of really good things going on in
this with this organization right now, a lot of good
things going on with some of these players. Zigris has
been outstanding. Brank has been outstanding four starts to shoeing.

(13:04):
He's on the IR right now because he's been outstanding.
There's just little things for me that I'm I'm noticing that. Yeah,
I think they could be doing a little bit better.
You know, I agreed with Tockett. They got to figure
out a way to get back into the gritty areas
that's where most of these teams are finding a lot
of success with their scoring. Now is you know, taking

(13:25):
away the lanes, getting the secondary chances, you know you're
gonna have your games where like tonight, Montreal had two
really good bounces go their way and Kirby Doc was
the beneficiary of both. Vlidar I don't think has looked
bad tonight. Mantabau had a shaky first period and he's
really locked it down. The Flyers hade a ton of

(13:46):
good scoring chants in the second period. They could easily
either lead it, Oh there's another good thing that's there,
or have extended or have tied this game. So you know,
I'm don't think I'm in any way kind of over
not like overexcited or anything, but like, what I'm seeing

(14:10):
from this team tonight is kind of what I've wanted
to see over the last couple of games. Good quality shots,
you know, giving this team a ton of scoring chances
to you haven't seen a lot of it. Who do
they just play? Who do they just lose to Calgary? Calgary?
They didn't really get any good scoring chances until mid

(14:31):
to late third period, and then that's when they finally
cashed in. But you know, I mean overall, I'm I'm
very pleased with where this team is. And yeah, there's
growing pains, absolutely hundred percent, there's going to be for
the next year or two.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Right, especially a sophomore year for Mitchkalff. To Bevany's point,
where would this team be if Mitchcoff was the player
from last year? Well, maybe some more time on ice
could help towards that, build some stamina. That'll happen, right,
But let's not forget tk's been a ghost too. Where's
this team gonna be once Tk's rolling and you know

(15:06):
that's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
What's interesting is I was listening to both feeds tonight.
I was listening to the TSN feed from tonight and
they were talking about maybe connect the saving some energy
for those Olympics, and maybe that might be in some
of the veterans back of their minds because it is
early on, right, Yeah, the Flyers are right there in contention.
Now they've dropped back, right, but they're thirteen points and
the top point getters in the Eastern Conference. I believe

(15:31):
we're at fifteen eighteen points, So I mean, like it's
tight it's super early, and I just like there's a
lot of promise. I'm very encouraged. This is a better
start than I thought they would get to, and it's
without the services of Mitchkoff and TK.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, and to kind of build off of what you
were saying about coaching decisions, I think the biggest question
right now as far as coaching decision goes is why
talk it doesn't play mitchcob more. And obviously we got
a little bit of that answer. But in order for
him to really start to build a stemina up a
little bit more, really get that buzz going, he's got
to get on the ice more than ten minutes a game. Yeah,

(16:09):
he's gotta not be playing with guys like the Worak
and Hathaway. Put him with like a gribankan or get
him up onto one of the first two lines to
get him going. He's got to be on the ice
more for sure.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
And he's looked good on the power play. I mean,
that's an element where this overall power play has looked
really good, and we saw that tonight in the first
period for certain, and ziegris being included in on that
Bobby Brink with two goals I believe. I don't think
both were on the power play at least one was, though,
but Ziegress were two power play helpers and uh and
Mitch coalffs look good there. So I mean, as this

(16:42):
team starts playing better five on five, getting more confident
with that transition game, they're gonna draw more penalties elicit
more power play time. That's a good way to get
bitch Cop more time on ice to what really appeals
to his skill set. And I think too, where we
saw this team throw this game back in Montreal's favor

(17:05):
is they reverted to an early season trend and that's
taking penalties in bad areas. Mean, I wouldn't say they
were dumb tonight like they were earlier in the season,
but certainly in bad areas and that put them behind
the eight ball. Given the Montreal power play an opportunity
to match the power play efforts from the first period.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Maddie, Yeah, that's the big problem of you know, you
get into penalty trouble and it's only going to give
the other team an opportunity to get back into the game.
And it definitely helped Montreal in a big way, you know,
and like anything, you know, you don't have to score
on the power play. If it's a solid, really good

(17:44):
power play and you had a lot of great chances,
it's just going to get the confidence boosted up, and
it's just going to cause a lot more frustrations for
you because you're allowing the opponent to get back into
the game. Now that's not to say that, you know,
it would have been easy for the fly to hold
on to a very early gotten lead, but at the
same time, it doesn't help your case when you're literally

(18:06):
handing the momentum to Montreal in the second period. You
can't do that. Yeah, And the.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Stands were crying for that penalty, Brian, They were up
in arms.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Some of them still are. But even to go off
of what you oh, there's one.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
There we have it. There we go, boys.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Great, that's Nikita got it.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
There we go, gribanking good one good one.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
To build off of. What I was just about to
say was, well, I'm more to build off of what
you were saying, Robbie. Even the last power play opportunity
that the Flyers had, they they may not have scored,
but they absolutely was a great effort. They got a
ton of scoring chances. They owned the zone for a
good chunk of it. It's not always going to end
in the positive result that we wanted to be, but

(18:59):
you know, a good power play like that builds momentum,
and obviously we see flyers are kind of carrying that
momentum right now leading into the Grebeing goal, which was
an absolute snipe.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
That was nice. I think it definitely helped to Montambeau
lost his stick and so that definitely helped the situation.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, I'm streaming fellas, so I know we might be
behind those that are joining us live. So I got
fifty three.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Behind that d.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
So for those who may be tuning in with us
right now for four now a goal from Mikhail Guebeccan
which gives us a nice four to four lead or
for four tie, everything's back to Evans now.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
That kid deserves to be on the ice more often
than all those two.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
That pup changed hands very quickly in that short area.
I think it was like a tip pass from from
Drives down to t Kbank and.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Like that's why he had that that that's why he
was able to cross that scene there through the hash marks,
and then you know, normally the defense is going to
allow for that, but that was disguised very well.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
It was. It was a good screen. I will say
that one thing to definitely talk about because I mean,
he added to it. Let's let's let's give a little
bit of love to Trevor Zegris. I mean, my god,

(20:42):
this guy is on fucking fire right now since coming
over to Philly. I week, well, I know, but let's
give some more to him. I mean, the guy's literally
just sitting at the top of the pack of a
start to the season. The only person he's behind is Forceberg.
So I mean that's pretty damn impressive when you really

(21:02):
put that into perspective.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Including tonight, fifteen points in in uh twelve games played,
So I mean that's that's or is this thirteen now?
To your point Brian earlier, I don't I lose trafic games,
But either way, that's still that's so about. That's over
our point for game production. So I mean, you definitely

(21:25):
getting more, and we deserved it the way the way
Cutter is performing for you all, we deserve Secrets to
be performing too, because it's a crying shame. But but
he didn't want to play here, so I guess that's that.
But thanks Schwartz. Anyway, moving on by now, Zeros definitely,
I mean, has exceeded expectations. I'm at you know, it's

(21:49):
good that they've been mixing him back and forth between
center and wing, but it really seems like he's getting
more wing play and he's looking good.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
He's looking fantastic. He's got he's got his swaggerback. He
just knows what to do with the puck. He's so
confident right now. Yeah, Ducks may have won the Cutter trade,
and Cutter's been just outstanding to start this year. Jamie
has not looked bad by any stretcher, anybody that says
the Cutter trade has been a clear win. I'm not

(22:19):
necessarily sure that's true, because, yeah, offensive numbers aren't there
for Jamie right now. But Jamie has looked very good defensively.
He's breaking up plase, he's knocking pucks away. Yeah, but Zegress,
he's just been it's just a different player. I don't
even think he's been this this confident in Anaheim.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
But here's the key, though, here's the key. Jamie's giving
you twenty one forty two minutes a night as a
right handed defenseman. So it's just a different role. It's
apples and oranges, so you can't compare compare the two.
I've been seeing that comparison as well.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, chose say thank god a commercial. I need to
pretre this has been an exciting game, yes, and has been.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
It's been a very good game, absolutely, But.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I also will say this too, It's like the thing
about Drysdale is it's like Drysdale, like you said, Robbie,
he is a d man. It's like it's a little
bit of a different dynamic. You know, you have a
forward and a d man, two different positions, two different mentalities,
two different styles of play that you're going to have
to be taking into account. Drysdale is not necessarily going

(23:24):
to show up on the score sheet every night, But
as long as he's doing the little things right for
the defensive side of things, then that's all that we
need him to do at the end of the day.
You know, sure, him getting a goal or an assist
here and there wouldn't hurt things. But as long as
he's doing all the necessary things when it comes to
penalty kill, when it comes to power play, when it

(23:44):
comes to being in the defensive zone or keeping the
puck in the blue, you know, in the offensive zone.
As long as he's doing all those little things right,
then that's fine. You know, Cutter can have all the
highlight reels he wants as long as Jamie does his job.
Fine here, I don't care a shit. I couldn't care
less she is.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
That's one of the things that I've been kind of
big about this this season has been how Jamie's performance
has been on the back end. He's a big part
of the reason why the Flyers have two pairings in
the top ten and goals against. As far as defenseman
pairings go, you know, it's Jamie Steeler, it's Yorki and Sandheim.

(24:30):
So yeah, I see people harping on these guys all
the time. But like, if you look at it, that
pairing has given up less than two goals a game.
If you look at the other pairing, they're giving up
less than three goals a game.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
This is they're playing really, really well this year, and
it's very under the radar, and it's helping Ladar play
just as well as he's been all season long. So right,
kind of half and half on tonight.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
But well, I mean, obviously, if Ladar had a great
start to the to his season. You know, it's like,
but we all knew Vladar was He's a tandem goaltender,
so you know, we knew at some point it was like,
all right, Vladar is not going to be able to
just be lights out every single night. We knew that
was not.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
He exceeded. He's exceeded my expectations. He's taken the stranglehold
on this and and Erison is continuing to disappoint.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I mean wrong, I will say though, Yes, out of
the two goaltenders, the most consistent and the most trustworthy
one so far has absolutely been Vladar by a mile.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, for sure. He's showing that ceiling that he had
two seasons ago for Calgary. I believe there's two seasons
ago where he had a say, percentage north of nine
hundred and yeah, I mean, you're not going to expect
it to be nine thirty five, you know a little
too much. But but hey, right now, this tantem's good

(25:57):
for the style that Hocket plays in terms of riding
the hot hand, because that's what you got to do
until you get your franchise guy right develop right, right.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
All right, So the Flowers just iced to pluck. Not
the most advisable thing to do, but you know, it
is what it is.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I mean, even to build off of the goalie conversation,
which it's so weird seeing Dobson in that uniform. You
look at the way Kolosov played against Calgary the other night.
You can't really complain about what Kolosov has done either.
He's looked pretty good in his small sample size down
in in the AHL right now. And like I said,
I've been saying a couple of times this offseason, he

(26:38):
got humbled and he started to play more of his
style and you're starting to see the comfort level that
he's getting and playing over on this side of the league.
So you know, even if Aerison doesn't wind up and
he's not getting sent down by any means, but if
he does continue to struggle, and say Danny decides he

(26:58):
wants to go out on a limb and play a
walker and say, hey, I'm going to carry three goalies,
Kolesov could be that guy that's getting called up, could be,
and he could be a small glimpse into what the
future is.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Could be, could very well be if his playing.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
But yeah, I don't honestly see it happening, but you know,
you never know with rebuilding teams, anything can happen.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Hey, listen, there have been plenty of you can go
throughout all of NHL history. You can find players that
come out of nowhere in the goaltending side of things
that we're just sitting down in the minors for years
and then all of a sudden they come up to
the big dance and like, holy shit, where's this guy
been the entire time just saying TK and Mitchkov are

(27:42):
the same player right now, they seem to be overthinking
out there lots of unforced turnovers and bad passes. I
can agree. I think that there might be also the
pressure that they're putting on themselves too. I mean, obviously
it's no big secret that there was a lot of
you know, there's a lot of expectation when it comes
to TK right off the bat and then and that

(28:04):
should be a no brainer that you expect a lot
of TK. But at the same time, with Mitchkov, I'm
not surprised either. I'm sure that, if maybe not everyone
is expecting a ton from him because of him still
being young and developing. He's probably putting it on himself
you know, because you know, he's a young guy. He's
a young kid. Yeah, he's got a he's got a
good positive energy about him. But that doesn't change the

(28:27):
fact that up here he's probably you know, he's probably
feeling some pressure. You know, he's been given that superstar anointment.
You know, that's I'm sure that's not lost on him.
I'm sure it's not lost on anybody. So that can
add pressure to you real quick. So you know, then
that's the time when somebody lick Tackett has to come

(28:49):
in and has to kind of calm him down. Veterans
on the team have to come in, like a couturier,
have to come in and kind of calm him down,
like no, no, no, simplify this, you know, and let's not
go too overboard with it. For you know, it's a
bit of a different ball game. It's like, okay, man,
just stop fiddle fucking around, get back to doing what
you're doing. You know. It's like, you know what you
have to do. We know you know what you need

(29:10):
to do.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
And to his credit, he has looked better tonight. He's
been a lot of good plays in this game. So
both both five or five and shorthanded as it has
been his forte a nice rush there during the second period.
So but I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, there's
there's no doubt about it that uh with Mitch Cough
it's it's expect heavy expectations that you get in a

(29:35):
major sports metropolitan. It's not an easy burden to carry,
and you need tough shoulders. Good thing, kids got tough shoulders.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay, he does, he does, he does.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Now. My thing with PK is once he gets I
think he needs to get like one or two I
would say within the next couple of games you really
get him going. I think with him is just app
a confidence thing. He squeezing his sick a little too hard.
But I'm with you one hundred percent. Robbie Tks looked
really good in this game. He's definitely had his number
of opportunities. He's seeing the lanes a little bit better

(30:11):
than he has been, so he's made a couple of
really nice passes. He had one at the end of
the second period too. I think it was Christian Devorak.
He's just Mantebo who was the side to side which
I was a killer saved to the end of period.
That would have been an absolute killer goal for Montreal
to give up at the end of the second. This
could have been a very different third period, very much.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Where Flyers are defending a five to four lead at
this jump? Sure yeah yeah, mm hm thirty nine to
fourteen right now?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Wow, that's crazy to think about.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, fifteen now in shots shots, shots, shot shots.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Layne Hudsons. Layne Hudson is just disgusting at hockey.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, and I think that they might have two back
to back holder champs.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I know, I know, boy that was right right now.
It's just looked absolutely disgusting as well. Falthy was gross too,
he had tonight.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
This Montreal team and they are set for the future.
They've got They've got a nice young team they've got here,
and last year I don't think was a fluke and
them getting into the playoffs bying stretching the imagination.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I've been having a little crush on uh career, the thrill,
But I think I'm gonna have to trade up for
a younger model.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Cross there, Devin. I don't know. I don't know if
I could do it though. Montreal is giving me too
many heartbreaks. But He's a fine young player, no doubt
about it. Nineteen years old, not even twenty.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
And he's already just killing it. Let's see. Yeah, it's
a shame.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I know.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
You boys last week talked a lot about you know,
Jentlechenko getting sent sent down, you know, of the same age.
You see the difference in terms of the talent pool
that it takes from the skill set. I should say
that it takes to stay at this level as a
nineteen year old versus a nine year old, that he
really needs to go back and continue working on his game,
especially defensively.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, so I'm actually kind of glad you brought that up, Robbie,
because a couple I guess it was a couple of
days ago, I got a report that you were able
to trade jet Lachenko out of Gulf Storms.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Good.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
So he went to the Windsor Spitfires, and he wound
up having pretty decent first game. I think believe he
had a goal in his first game with Windsor, so,
you know, so much better developmental team for him, just
going to be a much tougher competition, so hopefully he
can use that to you know, obviously take his game
to the next level. Spitfires have put out a lot

(32:54):
of good NHL talent and hopefully they can get one more.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Oh that was scary.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
And every player is different too, right, what it takes
for them to get to where they need to be?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Why is my keybole acting up there? It goes?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Why does you know? You know? Comcast anyway?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Did it freeze for you too, Maddy?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
It did?

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Okay, so it's not just me.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
At a very critical juncture too. Look like Montreal is
al ready to take a shot. I'm like, are you
are you for giving me right now?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
So be saying the Flyers have really been a perimeter
team all season, not doing very much close to the net,
which is why they are so low and second to
the last and shots per game tonight. That's looking differently though, correct.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Correct, absolutely, not only just in the shot disparity, but
also just look at Bobby Brings two goals really just
rushing the net and thranking too, right, the games higher.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Right, right, And there's nothing wrong with that, you know, well,
ugly ones count. So if you got to bumlash that
fucking net and get that goal.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Not quite the guy you want with the puck right there,
But you never know half away.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, I mean, if he can be if he could
be strong on the puck, at least they can, you know,
the Flyers can try and move it.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
He can shoot those too, which is nice.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
And all right, Montreal got it. So it's looking like
we're gonna have some overtime, all right. And so we
get a point, so does Montreal. One's on the table still,
so we'll find out who's gonna get that other point.
So okay, okay, but hey, hey give credit credits due Flyers.

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They had a terrible second period. They managed to let
the lead slip from their fingers. But but they had
a strong power play and they got rewarded even though
they didn't score on that power play. But Rebecca got
himself a nice goal, his first goal in the league,
and tied the game up. So you know what, Like

(35:10):
we said before, momentum shifts and you get rewarded for
them sometimes, and that's what happened there.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, they just got to make sure they get this win.
They they deserve the two points. After that first period
and after that third period, an unfortunate second period where
they bound treoal got some bounces, they got some momentum
to go their way. That goal that was given up
on the power play too, I think it was was
it for Montreal? It doesn't matter, but you know that

(35:39):
that was a tiki tach call. I thought it was
a little bit of a soft tripping call. And obviously
you see where you know Katie was not happy with
it or San Jim wasn't happy with it. So that's
the that's the goal. You hear about it, but it
is what it is. You got the goal back, you
got the overtime, so you got a point. Now you
just got to finish, finish it off and get that
final point right.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm just saying, is Forster playing tonight? Haven't seen him? Nope, nope,
nope on the i R unfortunately. Uh So we say
no put carriers on this team, either of them. So
we also says the guy cayroun anywhere close to his brother.
I no, no, no, no, he's not. I think Jordan
Cayrou is the more talented of the two.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, Christian Christian I think is here for defensive depth.
They gave away to Amala because they needed right wing
depth in their organization. I think hopefully the addition to
Jordan Chyrou is going to keep Andre up on the
roster a little bit longer, but you never know, right,
Hopefully that's what that trade is telling me.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Okay, so Montreal is five and zher in overtimes, Blas
are one and one. So this is something Montreal is
very familiar with this season. Well, if you haven't, yeah,
if you haven't, If your butt cheeks haven't clinched yet,
they probably did after seeing that.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Get your oxygen ready.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, here we go, all right, So three on three overtime.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Play for the shootout.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, since it seems to be I don't know, that
seems to be Ersen's special tea and we don't have
him in net right now.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Oh that's true, dang it? All right? Yeah, but I
mean the Flyers, you.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Know, maybe maybe maybe we could treat it like a
picture in baseball. We can bring in a goalie just
for the shootout.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Come on, ze, let's get a third point tonight.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Alright.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Flyers going like two points, almost two points a game.
That's disgusting, it is. He's had like a bunch of
multipoint games this year.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
They'd be impatient with it. They're not doing anything crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
No, that's good, open them up.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, I like it. Take your time, take your time,
as long as you got possession. That's the key of
three on three.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Okay, I like it. Reset, get some fresh legs out.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, they're really. Montreal is doing a good job of
just kind of keeping everything closed off there.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, I'm good with it. I'm good.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Oh, there you go, there you go, there you go.
They picked it, damn it. Montreal's got it.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Layne Hudson lost an edge.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
He did. He got a little over zelous there.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Hey, don Don, I'm sorry about the other night we
had the kind of put the smack down on Gibbie
there in his return to Anaheim. My apologies and listen
even more apologies there, don Don uh uh? Hell was

(38:58):
that sorry? Eat be kicked in?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I'm good, save ladar.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
What was I gonna say?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, that trade has been just pissed poor for both teams.
I hope Gibby at least steps up for you. Oh
that was all the post. Yeah, hopefully Gibby at least
turns it around and helps you guys.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
But come on, come on, Jamie, hold on to it.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Maaac looks like trash.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
All right, he shot it up, all right?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Okay, girl, I was gonna say, just don't ice it, right.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I give Jamie a little bit credit there. He did
stay on that buck.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Ducks look real good. Seven three and one. They're sitting
in second place in the division.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
So wat zone. Oh they got Oh I'm surprised he
didn't shoot that.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I was actually surprised he didn't get a stick on that.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Okay, no, oh no full good poke check, lador, good
poke check.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I was gonna say I didn't like that shot selection there,
but it looks like it paid off for Montreal.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah it did. On that occasion. It almost could have
almost came back and bitten us right in the ass there.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, I don't like that. Montreal has a possession. No, no,
we're utilizing their speed right now.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
They are, they are blazing.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oh you got lucky there.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
We did lost an edge again, there's gonna keep it under. Yeah,
that was smart, smart play on their part. Yeah, they
got a feed. No they don't. They almost did. Okay,
there we go, there we go, there we go. All right, yep,

(40:55):
there you go. Don't rush it, don't rush it. Slow
it down, slow it down. Oh that was a bad choice.
I don't know what they were thinking on that one.
That was a terrible choice. Shot it wide.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Wow, he shout it.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
All right, there you go, Okay, there's a shot went
himelid all right.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Would love to see uh JD get a game winner there.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, it would be nice ton to say, fuck it, make.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
It one be one o, yes please, it'd just be
deep city pretty much. Guys breaking ankles left and right there.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
There are some scary opportunities that Montreal has had in
this overtime.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, but you know what, you gotta hit the net.
It looked like they hit one point and shot it
way wide, so you got to hit the next himself
a chance.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, yeah, definitely some shot selection been a little questionable.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Besides taking a penalty there in the second period. Sean
Vitorrier has looked good tonight, continues to look good on
the season. Also batting back. You know, he's been banged
up a little bit too or whatnot? Is the showing
the show that he could be h.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, No, he look good. I took a couple of
bumps and bruises over the last few games, but I agree.
I think Coots has looked pretty fantastic this year early on,
you know, outside of missing those couple of games. You know,
he makes good decisions with the pockets. He used to
you know, he usually goes straight for the front of
the net, which I always loved about his game. But yeah,

(42:52):
he's looking like he's starting to be a little bit
more himself.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
So they just called a penalty on Montreal for a slash.
Not that it's seconds left though, and overtime, Well.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Get one of those face offs like g used to
do and just shoot.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
It right on that. Yeah yeah, yeah, six second power
play all started from the turnaround. Yeah, Demodov wound up
hitting this hitting tip it stick.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
All right.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Well, it's sounds pretty egregious. You got to call that
no matter what the situation, right.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Every time.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Okay, So they added some time to the clock, so
it's one twelve.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
How do you go from six seconds to one twelve?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I don't know, but that is what it's showing on
the scoreboard right now.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Whoa right, Oh, there it goes. They fixed it.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Oh they fixed it, okay, point two Okay, so all right,
that makes sense because one point twelve.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Oh, it's like I think it looked like they put
the wrong time in the wrong section.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
That's probably what it was.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
That's damn it, truck, get your shit together.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
That's crazy that they would uh the Flyers that much
of an advantage. We'll give him another minute twelve.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, I'll give them a minute twelve of power play time.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Why not? I think Montreal fans would burn it down
if they ever happened up.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
They would be so fucking mad. So seven point two
seconds on the clock here, Flyers could hopefully get a
win on the face off and just get a shot
out if they can.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Scariest three player lineup to face an ot M, there's
a few teams. Montreal I think has one of the scariest.
Oh quick, quick, shoot it all right. That was no,

(45:10):
that was a good opportunity. I liked what they did.
They opened up the space and they let TK take
the shot. I would have one Hund I would have
done the same thing.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Right Suzuki though, just he took one for the team there.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Mantrels got a scary one, Don Don Minnesota's got a
scary one, and Minton obviously has a scary one.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I wouldn't I would not want to face. I think
at Minton would be the one I'd be really terrified
of because I mean at any moment that team can strike.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
But offensively, I mean the one that scares me right
now the most is Montreal. You have you got cal McCard, yeah,
Cole Cawfield, and you have Lanne Hudson, three young stud
puppies that are just getting better every year.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah. Like I said, it was not a fluke last
year with Montreal at the playoffs. They earned that shit.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Philly's getting to that point. They just got to get
some consistency. Anaheim has some a pretty good h three
v three line with Leo and McTavish. It just depends.
There's there's a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
D and Joe's saying we still have a power play,
so they shouldn't be allowed to have a goalie for
our first shootout attempt. Ryan saying Swoopy saying deep, do
you guys think Tippet should be or has the ability
to be getting right around seventy points consistently.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Now?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I mean there's no about he has said ability, and
he's gotten the promotion too, playing on top top line
minutes right now, I believe what he's at. Twenty one
twenty two minutes, Yeah, twenty one minutes, twenty ships tonight. Uh,
he's calming down with the pot. You know, he's you know,
he's not so nervous in herky jerky. Yeah, and he's

(47:10):
and he and he's really coming into his own. I
think I think this could be the beginning of something special.
This is the first shot.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I agree with you, Robbie wholeheartedly. I think I think
he's calmed down so much. He's a bit more patient
like he was two years ago. He's getting some better
shot selections, and it's you just find a waste to
put him in.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
All right, Zigris now gonna be the first shooter for
the Flowers, and he is taking his sweet ass time.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
There. It is.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
There is a beauty right there through the five hole.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Greatest shootout shooter in NHL history.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah, I thought so. Yeah, Well that's right. You talked
about that before in the passways with Fanah.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Go ahead on, so Cold call Field now for Montreal.
Baldar did a good job of making sure Demidoff had
nothing to shoot at.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
He scares me. Oh, he's just slowed right down.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Okay, nice, Okay, good patience from Vladar there. Didn't really
give Cold. He didn't give call Field anything. I mean
just the glide on call Field is amazing, Like the
skating ability is just unbelievable. All right, let's all right, Mitch,

(48:37):
let's do it. Come on. Yeah, yeah, Montembo snuffed it.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Out, but yeah, cold Caldfield get back to him. Ten goals,
fifteen points already on the young season. Uh, there's the
reason why I picked it to put him on the thumbnail.
It's a nice to represent that opposition. He's been lightened
it up.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah. To the point that I make all the time
is is you know size doesn't matter in the NHL anymore.
Oh what a match, boys.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Good ship by the paddle, Nice ship la Dar.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
All right, that's the two points they deserve from the jump.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Good ship boys. Another winning the shootout for the Flyers
who were two and oh going into tonight, now they're
three and O. What the fuck is going on right now?
The Flyers are undefeated in shootouts.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Lost.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
He might have lost control of it.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I think so, I think we yeah, looking at it now, Yeah,
Suzuki lost it. Yep, Flyers and a little bit of
luck on that one, A little bit of lady. Look.
I think that was the hockey guys balancing it out
for us on that.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, it went off, went off the toe instead of
the which is where he wanted it.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, big win.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
What's up, Tommy?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, big win tonight.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Absolute brought the good positive juju there, and I mean
we need that a little bit, but let's get you know,
that was set up to be a spectacular saved. That
was good positioning there and where I was talking to
chat uh before, I believe, either with Joe or Benny
about how lad looks slow going back and forth tonight,
Well he saw a lot less rubber on him tonight,

(50:32):
less than the trojan back, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
And and and that's hard to keep start and that's
hard to keep, you know, it's hard to keep uh
just you know, your head in the game as well too,
So right there though, when the game was on the line,
this guy shows the ability to eat.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
You know, you gotta be consistent first of all, and
I believe Vladar and Harrison have I mean not so
far this season with Air, but he has shown that
consistency in the past. But it takes the spectacular save
here and there. And that's something I don't think I've
ever really seen from Arison, you know, so in Ladarn
provide that along with the consistency, that stranglehold that we

(51:15):
spoke about earlier in the show of Ladar taking more
of the reps between the pipes and Philadelphia, Philadelphia, it
could definitely come to fruition.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, absolutely, And I mean again, this was really uh
hard fought game. Didn't have to be that way. But
the Flyers did wind up getting the win though at
the end of the day. And now you know, Joe
can take himself off of the off of the respirator.
Everything's good now. And we got a victory here against Montreal,

(51:52):
and you know what, it's good after taking two tough losses,
you get a good victory here in Montreal, and now
you can move forward and build off of that. And
let's see here, Ben, he's saying, if Ladar hurt himself there,
he didn't look good coming off of the ice.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Oh I didn't notice. I'm no, I didn't notice either.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I mean, it's possible he may have just like tweaked something,
having to reach all the way back the way he did.
I don't know if it'd be serious or I'll have.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
To say, hopefully not. Joe saying, when did Martin san
And then we turn into Shane McMahon, Hey.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Man, ever since he got it all cleaned up, he
doesn't have his long hair anymore and he's gray.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah, Stoopy also saying best of all time shooter and shootouts,
making those tens, this team become the best team in
the shootout. Now a coincidence? Well, I mean I think not? Yeah?
So all right, So Flyers with a big win here

(53:08):
five to four of your final score in a shootout.
So uh, as you talked about before, you know, with
this particular win and with this particular game. You know what,
what do you see with the Flyers here? You know, like,

(53:29):
besides the fact that they had that rough second period,
you know what else do you think it really stuck
out to you for this from their performance tonight?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Well I'll jump in and say real quick, if indeed
the Dark tweaked something there causing him the miss time.
One thing we haven't talked about tonight is the fine
play from let's say Coleslaw and really showing that he's
you know, look like he's like, hey, I ain't dead yet.
I have my hat in the ring for being franchise goaltender,

(54:05):
or at least a starter, a potential starter. Maybe this
might give that kid an opportunity if he did tweak something.
In terms of tonight, Maddie, I love the puck possession right,
playing big, and like I said earlier in the show,
Montreal were kind of similar team built on speed and skill,

(54:27):
and you know with the flyers, to your point, Brian,
they drafted for size, and that will eventually come and
fill in those gaps. But until then, that's how you're
gonna beat teams. And they weren't always making that great
crisp out outlet pass going for blue line the blue line,
and I saw a ton of that tonight, a ton

(54:49):
of that, making good decisions in the defensive zone with
both body and position and stick position to cause disruption
of Montreal's passing, and then keeping those outlets and keyed
to a lot of offensive opportunities. The shot tolls tonight

(55:09):
overall at the end of the game forty two to twenty. Yeah,
that's what teams were doing to the players when we
began this season. So it's nice to see. And also,
if I am right that Montreal is a similar team
built on size and skill, holding them the twenty shots,
that's an achievement.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Brian, No and I'm I'm with Tommy. I love the
response tonight.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
You go out.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
In the last couple of games, you probably I believe
they had what fifteen shots against Toronto and like twenty
against Calgary, something along those lines. I like the fact
that they came out and they put up forty two shots.
You guys know me, I'm not the biggest fan on quantity.
I'm more of a fan of quality of shots. But

(55:56):
the other thing I love at the resiliency. You know,
there's a lot of teams in this league, especially in
the situation that the Flyers are in, that would have
give up four goals in one period and you'll never
see them in the offensive zone again. Flyers didn't give up.
They fought back, they got the game time goal, they
fought back, they took it to overtime, and they got

(56:17):
the second second point in the shootout. The resiliency of
this team this year so far has really been something
that I really like about this team. They're not giving up.
You know, you have your your games where yeah, they
look kind of slow coming out, but by the end
of the game they're fighting. You know, there's there's no

(56:38):
lack of fight in this team. And I think having
talk as the coach is a good reason for that.
You know, these guys want to get back to the playoffs.
They don't want to be the rebuilding team. They want
to they want to compete for a cup. I love
seeing it, you know. And then you bring in a
couple of guys that are going to continue to build
the culture of this locker room. These guys play, are

(56:59):
playing for each other and it's showing right now, and
I feel like this team is only going to get better.
So the season continues to go along. Look at the
Look at the two hundredth goal that that TK scored
the other night. They posted a big picture. There was
like maybe a quarter of the roster in that picture
with him. So this team is they're playing together, and

(57:21):
you love it. The camaraderie is the second to none,
and it's causing them to be resilient. I love it.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
I love it right And Matt brought up a great
point earlier, and it proved to be a game turning
moment when Nick de Laurier wanted to drop the gloves
and they obliged, and it really changed the vibe and
the momentum in that game. And you talk about a response.
You got punched in the math of the second period,
the Brian's point, four goals and the Laurier. That's why

(57:49):
you have him up on the lost or active lineup tonight.
That's how he can change a game, and he certainly did.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Mat Yeah, and again it's like this is the thing
of out, you know, momentum. That's basically what happened here.
Montreal had all the momentum on their side going into
this third period. They had the lead four to three,
They came all the way back from three to one,
They had the wind in their sails, and the next

(58:16):
thing you know, they're taking really stupid risks here. It's like,
you don't you don't get into a fight unless you
know you're gonna win. And then two, you also don't
oblige the other team and give them a chance to
sneak their way back into this and shift the momentum.
And then they take a penalty which then helped us
shift the momentum even further in our direction. And then

(58:39):
guess what happens. Gbeca gets that goal. Just one or
two little mistakes is enough to change the entire dynamic.
That's the beautiful thing and the difficult thing about hockey.
You know, it's wonderful when it happens for you, and
it is bullshit when it doesn't. But it's why we
love the sports so much. But this is Montreal. There's

(59:00):
a very coachable loss here for them, for them to realize, Hey,
we had this game in our going in our way
and got squirrely there in the third period and paid
for it.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Well, we saw tonight and we've seen it over the
past few years. This team is sort of emblematic of
their captain, Nick Suzuki, their snarky team, and they'll be
quick to make an undisciplined play like Pat and a
guy on the head or the goaltender and getting the
team fired up right, And that's where you saw tonight,

(59:35):
to where you take undisciplined penalties, you accept fights and
it costs you.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely definitely what's up, Lenny Happy, Yeah,
it's just took a couple of dumb penalties they did.
They looked really good in the power place, so you

(01:00:00):
can't really see that the rest were calling one way
or the other. It was pretty even keel throughout the
entire game, which was good. Power play looked good for
the most part, a couple couple opportunities he didn't really
look great in. But I would say at least three
of them could have had goals on which you had
first two you had the goals, and then you had

(01:00:22):
one later in the game. But you know, you got
to figure out what it sparked the offense. You got
to figure out a way to get him going. Delaier
did that with the fight. I think the power play
did that with their last power play opportunity. I think
it got the guys going, got him buzzing. You got
and you get that last goal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yeah, you do what you gotta do. Joe saying, if
Ziegras has a seventy plus assists this year, do you
think that could intrigue some big name goal scoring. You
have face to sign with us next summer, and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
The only reason why I'm saying no, Well, there's two reasons.
One reason is an R at the end of the year,
so the Flyers have to lock him up. Two, all
the intriguing games have already signed extensions. So oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
It's a different world nowadays in the NHL. The free
agency market isn't what it used to be. A lot
of times it seems like the free agency is more
used just to tidy up a few things, whereas any
big major names, they're all taken care of, usually a
boy that time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Maybe down the road though, I mean Zigres. You know,
even if you were to put up that type of
season one year, that's one year. It showed me you
could do it a second year, and then maybe that
becomes an established Okay, this guy is just serving off
cookies to everybody, and then they're going to bring in
you know, that's eventually elicit a valuable comality, right or

(01:01:48):
at the very least it feeds a porter Marteau who's
been doing it, knowing it right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
But the first first step in that equation there, Joe, Yeah,
gotta get Zegres on the contract for next year. That's
gonna be the big one. And if I'm Danny, we've
seen what he can do in Anaheim. We're seeing what
he can do here. He's playing with probably a higher
confidence level than he's ever been a part of. I'm
giving him, I'm giving him close to a max deal.

(01:02:20):
I'm giving him a five or six year contract offer,
and I'm going to throw him seven and a half
eight maybe even eight and a half million dollars. I'm
gonna give him a three million dollar rais at least
I'm throwing money his way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think Zegres is definitely earning. Uh,
he's definitely earning a nice, nice new aycheck right now,
you know. I mean, he's doing really well for doing
phenomenal order s tay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Here the one thing I will say too, like it's
really hard breaking knowing Ichael's locked up, Capriso is locked up,
David's locked up. Stolar has just got locked up. Uh,
Logan Cooley got locked up, Like come on, man, like
flowers can't catch break to get any of these these

(01:03:07):
guys to come here. But well, I mean so you
never know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Well, I mean that's the thing. Like again, it's it's
the it's the way that the NHL has shifted. You know,
it used to be where Okay, there's gonna be some
tantalizing free agents out there. Nowadays it's like, no, that
that period is over in the NHL. Gms are way
too crafty anymore with the with the cap. They it

(01:03:34):
was different back and back when the CAP was still
relatively new, or at least people were kind of thinking
they could just not circumvent it, but kind of sidestep
it a little bit, and like we could still do
some things here and there, and you know, stay under
the cap. Nowadays, gms just work with it and keep
it under wraps and keep everything locked down. So you know,

(01:03:56):
it's just the way it is, you know. So could
you imagine, though, if we were living in an era
still with no salary cap or a luxury tax. I mean,
I don't think much would change in terms of teams
that would be competitive because and the Flyers would not

(01:04:17):
be drafting young players. They would be constantly going out
and just signing free agents. But you know, it would
be very interesting. It'd be a very interesting what if
situation if we don't have a salary cap or if
we have a luxury tax in the NHL.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I'm trying to see if there's any other intriguing names
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Lenny's saying, what the fuck is wrong with Mitchikov? The
out of shape thing has gone? Now, No, it's more
like what we were talking about earlier. We're thinking that
it's more of a mental thing with him right now,
you know, And yeah, the pressures on him. I definitely
think that he's got to be feeling it, just a
little bit overthinking, you know, and just kind of holding

(01:04:59):
the stick a little too tight. I'm sure that once
he gets a goal and he you know, kind of
calms down a little bit, that you know, everything will
get back to normal. It happens. Unfortunately, the ebb and
flow is gonna is gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Right, and then you get the conditioning and then you
gotta thus earn the ice time at that point, and
taking a quick look tonight, he did rake in fifteen minutes,
twenty eight seconds and twenty one shifts, So there was
an increase there, something that you know, do with forrest
are out and then moving up alive.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
But but I mean, I think you know, you got
you know, mental yes, Maddie, but you need to give
the guy time to eat on the ice, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
So I think as he starts earning more ice time,
you'll be able to see more results because then he's right,
the out of shape thing is gone now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Yeah, right, And again I do agree with that. I
think that Takic does need to kind of like, well, listen,
you know what this kid's capable of, you know, the
talent that he has, you know, like, let him have
his opportunities, you know, let him get let him work
on this. You know, he's got a whole bunch of
guys that can join him on that line, that can

(01:06:11):
help get him going. There's plenty of guys on this
team that can work with him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
The one thing I will say, like, it's tough because
you have a bunch of guys that are playing really
well right now. You really don't want to move him.
TK is tough because he's playing really poorly right now.
But you know, you can't give him less than twenty
minutes a game. It's a tough situation and it sucks.
But unfortunately, right now, Mitch CoV is a guy that's
unfortunately taking the uh, taking the brunt of it right now.

(01:06:39):
But I'm in full agreement with Robbie here. They have
to figure out a way to get him on the
ice more, give him more opportunities to try and put
the puck in the net. To his credit, tonight looks fantastic,
especially on the power play. So yeah, he's earning the
I think he's earning the trust a little bit more. Again,
having Typho out might be a part of it. But

(01:07:01):
you know, if this is the opportunity for him right now,
he's got to take advantage of it. It's they have
more tape on him now, so teams are adjusting to him.
Now it's up to mitchkalv to adjust to the guys
adjusting to him. So he's got to figure out a
way to to be more creative and hopefully not force
too many plays like he has been in the past

(01:07:23):
a few games minus tonight, and you know, just be creative,
allow him to be be himself, and it's going to
come with a little bit more time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Let me saying one of the worst cases of snake
bit or has he just tuned Talk out? I would
say that more of the snake bit side than him
tuning out talk. I don't think he's tuning him out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Your questionable decision making in terms of moving and occupying
in space too. And I think that comes with transitioning
still from the KHL to the NHL game, as that's
a developmental thing for a lot of Russians come over, right,
But there's been a few times where where he's put
himself or his teammates in weird predicaments and it's resulted

(01:08:08):
in giveaways, and I think you clean that element up
that that not only earns you more ice time, but
that's gonna get you at least the ice time that
you that you have will be more in the offensive
zone versus chasing the puck and the defensive zone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Right And Joe's saying, if we stunk, we could give
him plenty of ice time, but we are competitive in
playing playoff hockey, So TACA is going to play the
players that are producing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I would say playing playoff hockey is a little bit
of a stretch, but I'll agree that they are definitely
being more competitive than I thought they would be at
this point.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I yeah, definitely, the playoff hockey thing is a little stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Five points out out of the first place in the conference.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Right now, Hey, there we go, fir'st Our Cup. Damn it,
it's right a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I want to see how this team reacts to some adversity,
and you know, I want to see how they kind
of react to going on a little bit of a
losing streak, how talk's gonna adjust to that, And it's
just curiosity really on that, just to kind of see
where this team is as far as their overall culture

(01:09:23):
is going to go and how that's going to carry
them through that. But I mean, we'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens. I was just going to say
real quick, you know, like I said at the end
of the game, I'm pleased with where this team is
right now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
To begin the day, Maddie, they were with the thirteen points,
they were, you know, last in the Eastern Conference. Not
that that is pretty early, right, but only five points away.
Tonight's two points now has shot them all the way
to the second Wildcard with the same record of the
aforementioned Toronto Maple Leafs that cleaned the four with us.

(01:10:01):
Uh you know, so, I mean, am I saying there
as good as a team as Toronto Maple Leafs. No,
I am not. But it just goes to show that
this start is much much better than I think any
of us can possibly imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Yeah. I think that this has been a very good start,
very strong start for this team. Actually, yeah, And I
definitely think it has a different feel to it than
the than the strong start we had a few years
ago with with with Torts. I feel like this go
around it was more of Okay, this is clearly a
team that feels like it's been rejuvenated. So you know,

(01:10:37):
when you have that kind of vibe going on, it's,
you know, one of those things. Oh and by the way,
Joe says, second wild card egles playoffs. But so I
mean overall, I wouldn't say in my closing thoughts before

(01:11:00):
we finish up our closing thoughts here for the show tonight,
I will say this, I feel like the reaction of
people panicking over the Flyers taking a couple of rough
losses and not looking as sharp as they should. There
are two things. One, there's gonna be nights where you
are not gonna look good. That is inevitable. The best

(01:11:23):
teams in the league have bad nights. I mean everyone knows, you, Like,
do you really think that you know any you think
every team is just gonna go eighty two and oh,
it's just not gonna be case. There's gonna be a
night where they're gonna look like shit. And the Flyers
looked like shit against Toronto and particularly they did not

(01:11:46):
look good. But they didn't look good against Winnipeg or
earlier on. They look like crap in that game too,
But then the very next game they fucking crushed it,
and then the game after that, in the game after that,
so it's like, no need to freak out over a
bad gamer too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
And then sorry and he cut her.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
To the office. I mightn't have to see that discussing
Dutch jersey behind your left shoulder or right shoulder. Excuse me.
Earlier in the sh you change locations.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
I did change locations.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I had.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
My laptop was about to die.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Yeah, the Ottawa game wasn't too nice.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Yeah that was That was a bad game. They started
off nice and then you wound up falling apart.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
But yeah, that was a rough one too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
It is it is. Yeah, Drew played very well the team.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Yeah, I mean, so again, you're not gonna be perfect
every night. You're gonna have nights where you're gonna be ship.
And then the second part is I said this earlier
and I'll keep on harping on it until the end
of the year. This is a team that is still
very young and it's still great growing. If there's any
team that's going to go through some valleys and some peaks,

(01:13:04):
that is going to be this team. I mean, this
is a team that we knew going into this year.
They were at best a bubble team, so that by
most counts would tell you that this team's gonna go
through stretches where they're gonna look bad, but then they're
gonna go through stretches where it's like, Okay, this is
what they're going to become. And that's what you know. Again,

(01:13:27):
I stress this everyone freaking out and panicking over two
losses or three losses, like, calm the fuck down, Calm down.
We knew what this team was going into this year.
Calm down, It is not the end of the world.
So and guess what, rough few games and they still

(01:13:48):
got the win tonight. So calm down.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
It's just a game. But you have to be made.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
So that's my closing state on that about you, gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
I mean, it does show the resiliency when you're rebuilding
and you're rebuilding with homegrown talent for the most part,
and that's how easily what could happen. We talked about,
you know, not betting a lot of free agents out there,
well done wrong with building up from within. I saw
the eighties Flyers, you know, build from like that and
did a phenomenal job doing so nothing. And who was

(01:14:25):
on that currently so so he's been there, done that,
and and and I'm just you know, like I'm enjoying
the resiliency. I'm enjoying Brian tyrpoint on the camaraderie of
this team, and and seeing all the locker room handing

(01:14:46):
Bernie's mask out to the player that came like, it's
just You're just you keep on seeing it more and
more each year during this rebuild, that like, because the
locker room were very rare, very very drying and personal,
you know, and then before they started cleaning house and
changing up personnel and now it's it's just it's a

(01:15:09):
good mix. It's a really good mix of guys that
really feel like they could be themselves now. And that's
not the discredit Towarts right. It did have a negative
effect on some players that maybe didn't respond well, but
it was a necessary evil when you rebuild it. It's not, Maddie,
they've lost a couple of games. It's not going to

(01:15:31):
be pretty right, But eventually that mortar dries.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Yeah, and you learn a lot more from losing than
you do winning. But at some point the losing just
has to stop entirely. And I think we're kind of
getting to that point where we're going to start seeing
that a little bit more. I still think we're a
year off from really taking a giants leap into this
in this rebuild. But it's tough when you don't have

(01:15:59):
a lot of hop notch free agents out there that
are gonna wanna leave here because I, like I was
saying a few minutes ago, you know, you have your
your big name free agents that are they're all locking
up deals with with the teams that they're in. You know,
like I said, McDavid, Caprice looking coolly all like all
these guys they're they're signing long term deals and they're

(01:16:20):
signing big time money right now. That's why I should
focus on keeping Zegres make bringing additions via trade. It's
not necessarily a bad thing. I mean I do it
all the time in NHL GM. So yeah, I'm just
gonna ignore that last part. But you know, having a

(01:16:41):
team of homegrown talent, to Rob's point, is not a
bad thing at all. You know, you're figuring out what
you have and you're learning to see what your holes
are and where you're gonna need the improvement and who
still needs his development. So I think the Flyers are
in a good spot. I think they're I'd like resiliency.
I like the culture. I like what Talk is bringing.

(01:17:03):
I like the way this team is responding to what
Talk is telling them to do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Right right, I mean a perfect example of taking someone
from a trade that you know, talk about Ziegras, you know,
coming over from his deal with Anaheim, becoming a restrictor
free agent. You know, young player, tons of talent showing
and blossoming here in Philly. Right now, there's another perfect

(01:17:28):
example of a young player from back in the day
that came to the Flyers. Sure it was a different circumstance,
but he came over in a trade from Pittsburgh and
he turned out to be really phenomenal player for the
Flyers in two stints. And that guy happens to be
a poster I have hanging up on the wall. That's
Mark Reki. So it's like, you can still build a

(01:17:49):
team of young players that will contribute very, very well
to a franchise through trades. You know, you just got
to be smart about it at the end of the day.
And Danny's so far has not shown me any issues
with that. At the end of the day. You know,
I don't really have any worries.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
No, I mean, I'm not worried at this point either.
Like I said, I think this team is going to
take a giant step forward next year. I think you
have to address some needs still. I think to Joe's point,
they've been playing defensively sound for the majority of the season.
You know, like I said, these the Steeler Drysdale line

(01:18:29):
has given up. I figure was something along the lines
heading into I think it was the Calgary game. It
was like two point four to seven goals a game.
And then Sanheim and York have given up one point
four to seven or one point eight six or something
along those lines per game too. So they're playing really
well defensively, They're putting themselves in good positions, and they're

(01:18:50):
they're forcing teams to be outside. For the most part,
Tonight could have been a four to two win if
it wasn't for two bounces. So, you know, I'm all
for people getting over being impatient or being patient. The
one thing I will say is a lot of people
are harping on Mitch CoV Let's remember he's twenty years old.

(01:19:13):
Most of these guys, I mean, look at Jack Hughes.
Jack Hughes took a couple of years before he really
exploded into this league. And I think Mitch CoV is
going to be much better than Jack Hughes. Sometimes it
just takes a little development. Sometimes it takes some you know,
learning curves, especially for a kid who doesn't really speak
English all that well, give him some time. It's not

(01:19:35):
like he's twenty five years old, you know, he's still
a kid. Keep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
And also keep this in mind too, even though they've
had some time to adjust, they also have a whole
different system now that they are still getting used to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Yep, it's absolutely a system, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
So point being is that we don't need to jump
off of the bend. Everything's okay, the works in progress,
and I think that if this game proves that the
Flyers can rebound after a terrible period, there was a
time when we couldn't say that, and so far, I

(01:20:20):
really can't say that. I'm worried. The Flyers have done
a much better job so far than I expected them
to coming out of the gate. So let's let's keep
the faith here, all right, all right, So with that,
I think that'll do it for this edition of Flyers
talk a too d Everybody in the chat. We love

(01:20:42):
you guys, thank you very much for coming in tonight
as always the lifeblood here of a two D big
win for the Flyers tonight five to four in the
shootout over the Habs. Next game they got coming up,
they'll be finishing up their season series with the Nashville
Predators and hopefully they can get a win them like
they did in Philly. It'll be a little tough because

(01:21:03):
Bridgetone isn't the easiest place to play in in the league,
but hey, you know what, maybe they'll be able to
most people do so the catfish people don't make too
many people happy anyway. So we will see you guys
next week right here on A to D Radio for

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another edition of Flyers Talk a too D. Let me
just double check here on the good old calendar here
see what we got on the docket. Do we know?
We do not? We do not have a game to
react to next week because the Flyers will be playing Wednesday,
so the day after so we'll have a chance to
preview the Flyers and Oilers that'll be on November twelfth matchup.

(01:21:51):
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been nice by Canada at this point anyway. So with that,
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