May 28, 2025 • 34 mins
Wednesday, May 28 - Host and American Family Farmer, Doug Stephan www.eastleighfarm.com shares the news affecting small farmers in America, including a focus on whether or not graduates are going back to their family farms or venturing into new career-fields, the trade war impacts on farms and ag professionals, and something you may not have known about carrots. Then, Doug introduces us to Judy Wood, owner of Poultry Hollow Hatchery in Brush Creek, TN. Poultry Hollow is a specialty hatchery that hatches 1,000s of chicks a month, with over 55 breeds of poultry, as well as carrying other breeds of poultry — like ducks, geese, turkeys, quail and more. Judy, along with her son, decided to get into the hatchery business after trying to increase their own flock and finding many places were being dishonest. For example, the found others were selling old hens and saying they just started laying. Judy wanted to offer a reliable place. In addition the hatchery, they sell farm fresh eggs and farm raised whole chickens that are 100% natural without any drugs or chemicals. Last, and certainly not lease, Doug opines the harsh reality farmers have faced in recent years, the reality that many farmers have other jobs to contribute to their household income and keep their farm running, and what life is really like on the farm with the stress and strains.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The American Family Farmer podcast, sponsored in part by Caldron
The Safe, Proven Way to Lose weight. Last week we
were talking a lot about government, Brooke Rollins and Robert F.
Kennedy working together, which I thought was a pretty good idea.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
This week we mark the end.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Of college and school for a lot of potential high
school and college graduates going back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
To the farm. Are they doing that? The question?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's a good one. Actually, it's a chapter in one's life.
Many people remember graduating.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
From high school.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm sure graduating from college or you went to an
ag school that's even better.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So what's the rest of the book? Call life all about?
Exciting for some yeah, I guess, and scary for others.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What do I do now?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Is the question for a lot of high school graduates,
and I think some college graduates as well.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
If you look at the data.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
According to the Education Initiative, sixty two percent of high
school students are going on to post secondary education. That
holds up in general as far as farm youngsters are
concerned about, thirty eight percent of them go on to
a college that specializes in agriculture.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
There are a lot of good schools, a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Of great school as a matter of fact, one of
the things we were talking about last week with regarding Ms.
Warles and mister Kennedy was their visit to the Texas
A and M School where they were putting the farm
and the food and health items together, which seems to
me to make a whole lot of sense. Anyway, Meanwhile,
(01:38):
back to the fact that school for a lot of
people is a hard thing. College can be even harder.
Higher learning is not for everybody. In my mind, there
are those people who have and I was one of
them who said to their children, you know, you should.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Take a year off.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I think they call it the gap year and go work,
or go travel, or go see what's going going on.
So a lot of kids that come from the farm
go to work on farms in other countries so that
they can see what's going on, how much of how
comparatively run are they compared to ours. And then there
(02:17):
are those who are when they get out of high
school and they are thinking, well, should I go to
work or go to school, go to some kind of
tuition based school, And that is tough for some as
a matter of fact, with all the focus on all
the money it costs to go to school, there are
a lot of schools I think, around the country and
many of the egg states. I know in Ohio or
(02:37):
I went to school at.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Heidelberg some of those schools.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There are a lot of second post secondary schools in Ohio,
some of them focusing on a good agg program, and
they've gone out of business. They're just gone because it's
too experience expensive and a lot of high school kids
don't want to go. I have come across a number
of people, mostly young women, who want to become a veterinarian,
(03:02):
going to working on the farm, growing up on the farm,
and then thinking about, Okay, what do I want to do.
Come from a dairy farm, I want to work with
large animals, and so that's what happens. And I was
reading a story of one youngster who had one year
in and the chemistry kicked her, but she still went
(03:24):
through the program and she did a couple of different
things in education that brought her not to veterinarians, but
to a program that was more business the business of
the farm, which I think is a good idea. So anyway,
I just think that it's to be youngsters who are graduating,
(03:46):
what are you going to do? Congratulations to you, and
let's hope you stay on the farm all right. Trade
war problems, impacts on agriculture in our country, the terror
of exports, that sort of thing. I suppose the best
situation would be not to have any tariffs at all
(04:06):
and to have free trade agreements all around the world.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That isn't the reality, certainly not at the at the moment.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Anyway, there are a lot of folks who are expressing
their concerns for this crop year.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Tariff's number one.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
As I look across the field, if you will tariffs.
As a matter of fact, I'm looking at one survey
which suggested that tariffs are number one, two, three, four
and five big problem. The bigger you are, the bigger
the problem. I don't know that. There are a lot
of family farmers that do grow lots of beans, grow
(04:44):
lots of corn, grow lots of wheat.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But this is a double edged sword.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And even though it opens up new markets, but the
other side of it is, depending on what you're growing,
it may close your market.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It is.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It's a tough time for all of us, and we
wonder whether it's worth it. I know a lot of
you who are supportive of mister Trump. I think that
no matter what he does or what he says, it's
mana from heaven to be determined. I'm not one of
the people who have said now even he's going to hell.
But a lot of folks around the country, smaller farmers,
(05:23):
even though they're smaller. If you put an aggregate together,
about ten million acres of soybeans have been planted this.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Spring on smaller family farms.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And that's billions of dollars worth of soybeans. China happens
to be the largest customer, bought lots of billions of
dollars worth of soybeans. And right now the thing hasn't
been fixed between China and the United States. So where
are these going to go when we are done with
them in a few months.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, I guess that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, it went from one hundred and forty five percent
tariffs down to what the normal not knowing, but about
forty thirty forty percent. It's some people say it's short
sighted and it won't work, but there has been earlier
in this month, there was an agreement.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
To dial back the tariffs on both sides.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So that you know, we went from what one hundred
and twenty five percent with some of the categories one
hundred and forty down to ten percent, and the United
day period.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
The clock is running.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But the trade war is a big deal for farmers.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
About sixty percent of the story being crop and fifty
percent of the corn crop in this country grown by
small family farmers and exported to the tune of billions
of dollars that goes overseas.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So we know what, okay, So what's the scoop? What
are we doing? How are we doing it?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And you're still as supportive as you were. Here's the
Here the Brazilians have surpassed the US in this overview
of the tree trade war with China. China's decided to
buy soybeans from Brazil.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And let's see, oh man, look at this.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
The trade wars in terms of what we buy from
Brazil and what we sell to them. They're selling a
lot more stuff to us than we're buying than they
are buying from us.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And that's not a good situation under any circumstances. All right,
So what do you do?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Farmers are more optimistic about the trade war.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
They are.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They don't like it, but they're optimistic that it'll work
out the right way. And that's the best way to
be philosophically. I think you just have to kind of
wait and see because you don't know what the future is.
Don't listen to the news media. It is risky business,
no question about it. There is a period through this
summer that's extremely uncertain, and so you maybe work with
(07:55):
folks that are the farm bureaus working to try to
find new markets, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I could go on and on about this, but I'm
not going to because I think you.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Got the message right now. Let's talk about health care.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Here's another issue that's big on farmers' minds and people
pretty much across the country because the costs are going
up and up and up and up and up, and
as far as farmers are concerned and most Americans, it's
the biggest concern. A lot of people are forced to
make a choice between health care and other basic needs.
(08:28):
So let's have some food for thought now from Casey Johnson.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I'm Casey Johnson. Survey show most doctors are increasingly concerned
about a trend in healthcare pricing, patients being charged more
for the same service depending on where they go, and
most don't even know what's happening family physician doctor Antonio Jerman.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
When hospitals acquire smaller medical practices, it allows them to
rebrand and charge more to receive the same care. It's
really nothing more than enough charge. In fact, when a
physician's office is acquired by a system, prices increased by
more than fourteen percent.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Our recent study found half of US adults reported difficulty
affording healthcare and one and four said they skipped needed
care because of it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
If your doctor's office is owned by a large hospital system,
ask about pricing. There's an effort to enact legislation to
call for site neutral payments for same price for the
same service, protections for patients.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Visit samepricenow dot org to learn more.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
On the old Good Day Program, which many of you
used to listen to Monday through Friday on a lot
of these same stations that carry the American Family Farmer
every weekend, we used to have a segment called do
you Know and Do You Care? It was the fact file,
And so I came across something that I thought fit
very appropriately in the land of the Farm show, and
(09:52):
that was the story about carrots.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Did you know? Do you Care?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That carrots were not.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Always orange, right, they are orange, but that's just kind
of a recent development. The carrot was first cultivated over
five thousand years ago in Central Asia.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It was often bright purple.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So the carrots that we grow here in the west
became yellow and then orange.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
But you know.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Why because of this, well you probably do know why.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Maybe the farm folks are the ones who know more
about this than anything else. It has to do with
the soil and what things there are in the soil.
That's what makes up the taste of the food we
grow or the color of the food we grow. Did
you know that, in terms of tons, the number of
the weight in tons of carrots grown in our country
(10:46):
last year three point four billion tons of carrots. The
percentage of the typical carrot that's water is eighty eight percent.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Right, And.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Let's see here the number of genes in a carrot
jeans G E, N E s. You didn't know this,
twenty percent more than humans. There are more genetically modified
things that you can get in a carrot than you
can as a human being.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Thirty two thousand. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
All right, so some facts, just for the heck of
bringing you facts and figures on the American family farmer
Doug Stefan here back on the American Family Farmer with
my guest Judy Wood, who's the owner of Poultry Hollow
Hatchery down at Brush Creek, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And one of the things that I want to start talking.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
About in this Wood as we go through the life
of a lady who's running a hatchery. The weather where
you are has been pretty wild this spring, Judy, how
has that affected what you're doing on your farm?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Really? Not mad? The way my farm is.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
We don't have any problems flooding. Goodness, it just hasn't
hit us band here. You know, Kentucky got it really bad,
but we've been safe, thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
All right, Well, that's good to know.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You're in the mid Tennessee areas, I understand it near
Carthage in Smith County, Tennessee. Are there a lot of
people in the same business that you're in down in
that area.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
No, not really.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
There's a few people that sell chickens, you know, on
sad but not as lord.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I mean, we're we're pretty big.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
How did you this is a family thing. You've been
on the farms. You grow up as a farm kid,
and are you second, third, fourth generation?
Speaker 7 (12:48):
No, fr was born in west Chester Family, New York,
twenty miles from New York City. My dad moved us
a Florida to when I was seven, and Florida started
getting more and more people in the seventies, and I
(13:09):
decided I needed to get out of Florida. There were
two new people, and so we moved Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Wow, that's not a story that you every day. It's
usually the exact opposite. It's okay, we've had enough in
New York. We've had enough in Tennessee. It's time for
us to retire. We're going to Florida. So that's very interesting.
You went the old area, But that's all right. Listen,
it's obviously served you well. So if you grew up
in New York and you then spend a lot of
(13:38):
time in Florida, then you ended up in Tennessee. What's
the connection to the chicks? How did you get into
the chick business?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
If you will?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Well, it happened my son was diagnosed with the brain aneurismo,
and they it was managing a hotel and it was
fired from this job, and we decided we were selling chicks.
But we decided we'd get into it bigger and we
(14:08):
went and to purchase chickens from people so we could
start hatching in that and the chickens we purchased were
old chickens. They weren't laying anymore, they were dying. And
my son looked at me and he says, mom, these
people were selling us their old chickens. And he said
(14:30):
that's not right. He said, we need to do something
about it. And that's how poultriol was created.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
What did you find you buying the old chicks? There
is a market for it. Campbell's Soup makes their chicken.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Soup out of old old hens, not necessarily old chicks,
but old hens.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So there is a market for him.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Is that what happened with the hens that you had?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
No, because we can't kill anything. We love animals so much.
We can't kill a deer. No, we're not back back.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It should do well when we continue here on the
American Family Firm. We got to figure out how you
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Hatchery down and Brush Creek, Brush Creek, Tennessee. Interesting story
(16:22):
about how you have not killed off any of the chickens.
So I guess the question that would come from a
lot of folks is how do you make money. You've
got a whole different thing going on there. Now you've
been there for a while. So how many chicks do
you hatch every month?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Well, this year has been unbelievable. It's been like it
hasn't been like any other year. We had people lined
up for chickens, a lot of people scared because of
price of eggs.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
We were selling probably about five hundred.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Chicks a week, which is a huge amount for us.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
People were scared and.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
How much of the being afraid was based on the
realities of the Avian flu?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Do you think, Judy, Well, I think it was a
combination of things. With the Avian flu, we we lost
a lot of layers and that made egg prices go
up apparently, Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
So people got nervous. They these are.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
The amount of first timers was incredible, people that have
never raised chickens before in their life and they're they're
buying baby chicks to raise.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was quite amazing.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
And then broilers, the amount of broilers we sold this year,
we sold more than we have in all our years combined.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So what's your source of the chicks of the eggs?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You have a large flock of the hens that you
keep in there, and that's where they come from.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Do you have another source?
Speaker 7 (18:24):
We do, but we do buy eggs, sooe we buy
chicks because we have to supplement. I mean, we just
we carried a lot of breeds. We probably have over
thirty breeds of chickens us probably.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Who would have ever thought that's news to me? I
didn't know there were that many breeds of chicken. I'm
not a chicken guy. Although I do have chickens on
my farm. I leave that to the lady who runs
the farm. Mary is the chicken lady.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
But I if.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You'd have told me that there were thirty or forty
different breeds of poultry like this, I would have said,
huh as oh.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
And then they're creating more and more breeds. You know.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
They started with the frizzles. That's a little coaching banter.
It's a it's a bandam chicken and they breath it
and it comes out with fish frizzled feathers. They look
like it's been electrocute. They're adorable, I mean they're adorables
(19:30):
can be. And then from the frizzles, they're making sizzles.
And then they have zombie chickens. I mean, probably the
day doesn't go by when I get a call, a
call about a breathe that I had never even heard of.
There's just so many breeds, it's it's incredible, and it's
(19:52):
all the sect different personalities that it's just cheat it's
it's truly heartwarming to raise chickens.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm a cow guy. I've never cows have very distinct personalities.
Has do people and dogs, and most animals do have
their own personality.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I don't think that I.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Would have thought having been around chickens, just you know,
because of the eggs and when they get old, they
become they become food, at least on the farms that
I've been around since I was a kid. But in
this circumstance, it's really kind of interesting to think that
the chicken has a has a personality, and that sort
(20:38):
of flies in the face for your pardon the punt
of the way these huge hatcheries you have, your you
got a lot of hatching chicks, and you've got a
lot of breeds. But if you go to the places
that are run by you know, the big the two
big poultry concerns in the country, they have contracts with
these guys that make you know, every ninety days they
(21:01):
bring in thirty forty thousand chicks and they raise them
as quickly as they can, and they kill them in
an awful It's just an amazing, terrible.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
If you having gone through it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And I say this in deference to my friends listening
who are in the chicken business. I remember spending some
time on a chicken farm down in Pennsylvania and seeing
how the animals were dispatched and how they were processed
after they were slaughtered.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I disgusted me. Frankly. I would.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Just discuss yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you and all
natural you do. You process chicken, you don't kill them,
but you sell them. What happens if an animal gets sick?
What do you do with a sick chicken? A sick chick?
Speaker 6 (21:52):
You know?
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Fortunately, thank god, I'm knock on wood. I'm knocking on
my head because I'm a wood. We haven't had any problems.
We've been very careful with you know, keeping the water
is clean, and their feeders clean and then clean, and
(22:14):
I you know, I think it's mainly because there's just
the big poultry places have so many thousands of chickens
that you know, it's you can understand how something that
an outbreak could start. But you know, we've been we've
been very grateful that we haven't had any problems.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Good, Hold on a second. I have to do a
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Speaker 1 (22:40):
Then we continue with a sort of a visit to
the farm, and that's one of the things they do
down at Poultry Hollow Hatchery. They have people come in,
we'll talk about that. These are all ideas that we're
trying to share with you people that might want to
do this in a way that affects the success of
their farm. This is a smaller operation, but yeah is
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Back here with.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Judy Wood, who owns the Poultry Hollow Hatchery down in Tennessee.
We're talking about the essence of what it takes to
be successful doing what you're doing on a smaller scale.
You were saying a lot of people buy They come
to your arm on Friday and Saturday and Sunday to
look around and buy their eggs. You sell a lot
(26:05):
of eggs. It looks like, what do you get for
a dozen? By the way, what are you selling eggs? Y?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Now?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
We're not selling eggs right now. We do have some
fergilized eggs for sale. If we sold a dozen, probably
five dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Wow, every dollars depending on but where who are? I
guess much as anything else.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So the situation in terms of the government and how
hard it is. Do people down there have to go
to the local government? People come in and say, Okay,
I want to buy a half a dozen chickens.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I want to keep them at home. I'm building a
little cage so I can have my own eggs.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Is they can just do that or do they have
to get permits from cities and towns down there?
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Yeah, some of them. Some of the cities require permits.
They normally charge about twenty five to thirty dollars, and
they allow people to have four to six chickens, usually
no roosters, you know, which is good? I mean, that's
enough chickens to sustaining the family with me.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh yeah, sure, of course it is, yeah, under the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So in terms of what you want to do going forward,
how does this business grow? How do you and your
son keep it where it is or make it bigger?
What's your goal as you move forward?
Speaker 7 (27:35):
I have no idea, that's an honest answer anyway. Yeah,
it seems like there's always something new added. I went
up to the nursery where we heaped the chicks a
few weeks ago, and I noticed in our big cage
(27:57):
out front that there were white pigeons and about twenty
of So my son bought some white pigeons, and so
now we're raising white pigeons also.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, we have some of those white pigeons. I don't
know where they came from. I've got some of those
on my farm as well. So all right now, if
even want to find out where you are, they can
go to Poultry Hollow Poultry spelled as Poultry Hollow Hatchery
dot org and you can find this.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You find the.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Story of the hatchery, the story of the folks that
are doing it, and maybe get some inspiration as to
what you can do on your own farm.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Because there, there's.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Never too many chickens, it seems in never too many eggs.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And check you out their.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Inventory on their website again it's a poultry hollow farm
Poltryhollow dot org. All right, Judy continues success, Good luck
to you and your son.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Thank you, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Because of my own experience in farming, and we're on
farmers and the life of a cow, if you will,
been on cows all my life, there are lots of
people around me I grew up around that are no
longer farming. And so as I'm talking about some of
the things that I talked about earlier in the program,
the tariffs and the uncertainty of what goes on the weather,
(29:30):
it's like, it's farming really worth it. And so looked
into a family lady who farms alongside her father and
her husband and her son down in Arkansas. She was
testifying before the Senate Committee on Agriculture. She talked about
the harsh reality that farmers face this year and every year.
(29:55):
This farming family happens to be in the rice business,
which is fairly unusual. But last year, twenty billion tons
of rice were grown in America and it created one
hundred and twenty five thousand jobs across our nation. There
(30:17):
are six rice producing states where small communities depend on
the rice industry, and so when the weather is not
so good, and this lady, her name is Jennifer James,
talked about how expensive it is to grow this crop
and the economic turmoil not only this year, but if
(30:39):
you look at the last number of years, this has
created a problem.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
This farm has been in the family for four.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Generations and she says, right now they're in a very
fragile financial situation, and so are most of us.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Right Supporting your family is.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Probably very difficult. It is for most farmers.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's why there are so many farms that are supported
by the people running it, having off the farm jobs
around here, a lot of people drive school buses in
the morning after they've milk their cows, and then they
can do the work to take care of the cows
during the midday and they go drive the school bus.
They come back and they milk the cows again, and
they get thirty five dollars an hour, which is a
(31:24):
heck of a lot more than they get staying on
the farm. So why do we do it? Is this
reality that is I grew up on the farm. I
want to save the farm. It's Americana, But the farm
economy is so dicey, and there's prolonged storms that every
(31:45):
year eat away. Some years we have great years. The
cattle industry right now, for example, beef industry, you can
buy if you're lucky, depending on which you want to do,
at Cargill and and eight a m and all the
others that are involved in the big processing world of
(32:06):
American food. They're paying unbelievable prices for sometimes it's three
bucks a pound for these cattle on the hoof. And
under that circumstance, you've got a lot of people that are,
you know, instead of raising dairy animals, they're breeding their
(32:28):
heifers back or cows back with a beef bull and
so what comes out is a beefer that they can
raise and sell for a lot more money they can
sell their milk for. But the other side of that
is that it's causing a real strain on dairy cows
because there are enough of them around now, and the
prices of those animals are going way up. So if
(32:51):
you're on that side of the world that is raising
the beef not for milk, but for having it on
the hoof, and it's good for you right now, But
then the message of so many others, and that'll be
maybe this year, it's great next year. It is a
milk's down in nineteen in my area. It was earlier
in the spring twenty four bucks one hundredweight, which is
(33:11):
just barely enough to pay what it costs to.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Make the milk.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Now it's floating around nineteen dollars because of the spring flush.
Nineteen dollars one hundredweight. What a disgusting number. That's why
I encourage as many people as I can maybe get
together form a co op and produce your milk and
bring it to the co op and process it yourself
and sell it yourself, and cut out the guys in
(33:37):
the middle that have been screwing the dairy farmers in
this country for.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Years and years.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Anyway, So I guess I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
This whole business of why people stay on the farm
and is it really worth it. I guess probably most
of you will say yes, depending on your age. I
would say yes, But I have to do other things
in order to make the farm work, and some years
it doesn't, and I can't even do that with my
outside income. So it's kind of silly, isn't it that
(34:06):
we have this cock eyed understanding of what life looks
like on the Farmer's very bucolic, and yet it's a
real stress and strain on the farmers. So I passed
that along. Maybe something you ask yourself, is farming really
worth it? I would say yes, but you come up
with your own answer. The American Family Farmer podcast sponsored
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
This week we mark the end.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Of college and school for a lot of potential high
school and college graduates going back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
To the farm. Are they doing that? The question?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's a good one. Actually, it's a chapter in one's life.
Many people remember graduating.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
From high school.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm sure graduating from college or you went to an
ag school that's even better.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So what's the rest of the book? Call life all about?
Exciting for some yeah, I guess, and scary for others.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What do I do now?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Is the question for a lot of high school graduates,
and I think some college graduates as well.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
If you look at the data.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
According to the Education Initiative, sixty two percent of high
school students are going on to post secondary education. That
holds up in general as far as farm youngsters are
concerned about, thirty eight percent of them go on to
a college that specializes in agriculture.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
There are a lot of good schools, a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Of great school as a matter of fact, one of
the things we were talking about last week with regarding Ms.
Warles and mister Kennedy was their visit to the Texas
A and M School where they were putting the farm
and the food and health items together, which seems to
me to make a whole lot of sense. Anyway, Meanwhile,
(01:38):
back to the fact that school for a lot of
people is a hard thing. College can be even harder.
Higher learning is not for everybody. In my mind, there
are those people who have and I was one of
them who said to their children, you know, you should.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Take a year off.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I think they call it the gap year and go work,
or go travel, or go see what's going going on.
So a lot of kids that come from the farm
go to work on farms in other countries so that
they can see what's going on, how much of how
comparatively run are they compared to ours. And then there
(02:17):
are those who are when they get out of high
school and they are thinking, well, should I go to
work or go to school, go to some kind of
tuition based school, And that is tough for some as
a matter of fact, with all the focus on all
the money it costs to go to school, there are
a lot of schools I think, around the country and
many of the egg states. I know in Ohio or
(02:37):
I went to school at.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Heidelberg some of those schools.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There are a lot of second post secondary schools in Ohio,
some of them focusing on a good agg program, and
they've gone out of business. They're just gone because it's
too experience expensive and a lot of high school kids
don't want to go. I have come across a number
of people, mostly young women, who want to become a veterinarian,
(03:02):
going to working on the farm, growing up on the farm,
and then thinking about, Okay, what do I want to do.
Come from a dairy farm, I want to work with
large animals, and so that's what happens. And I was
reading a story of one youngster who had one year
in and the chemistry kicked her, but she still went
(03:24):
through the program and she did a couple of different
things in education that brought her not to veterinarians, but
to a program that was more business the business of
the farm, which I think is a good idea. So anyway,
I just think that it's to be youngsters who are graduating,
(03:46):
what are you going to do? Congratulations to you, and
let's hope you stay on the farm all right. Trade
war problems, impacts on agriculture in our country, the terror
of exports, that sort of thing. I suppose the best
situation would be not to have any tariffs at all
(04:06):
and to have free trade agreements all around the world.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That isn't the reality, certainly not at the at the moment.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Anyway, there are a lot of folks who are expressing
their concerns for this crop year.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Tariff's number one.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
As I look across the field, if you will tariffs.
As a matter of fact, I'm looking at one survey
which suggested that tariffs are number one, two, three, four
and five big problem. The bigger you are, the bigger
the problem. I don't know that. There are a lot
of family farmers that do grow lots of beans, grow
(04:44):
lots of corn, grow lots of wheat.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But this is a double edged sword.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And even though it opens up new markets, but the
other side of it is, depending on what you're growing,
it may close your market.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It is.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It's a tough time for all of us, and we
wonder whether it's worth it. I know a lot of
you who are supportive of mister Trump. I think that
no matter what he does or what he says, it's
mana from heaven to be determined. I'm not one of
the people who have said now even he's going to hell.
But a lot of folks around the country, smaller farmers,
(05:23):
even though they're smaller. If you put an aggregate together,
about ten million acres of soybeans have been planted this.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Spring on smaller family farms.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And that's billions of dollars worth of soybeans. China happens
to be the largest customer, bought lots of billions of
dollars worth of soybeans. And right now the thing hasn't
been fixed between China and the United States. So where
are these going to go when we are done with
them in a few months.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, I guess that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, it went from one hundred and forty five percent
tariffs down to what the normal not knowing, but about
forty thirty forty percent. It's some people say it's short
sighted and it won't work, but there has been earlier
in this month, there was an agreement.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
To dial back the tariffs on both sides.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So that you know, we went from what one hundred
and twenty five percent with some of the categories one
hundred and forty down to ten percent, and the United
day period.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
The clock is running.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But the trade war is a big deal for farmers.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
About sixty percent of the story being crop and fifty
percent of the corn crop in this country grown by
small family farmers and exported to the tune of billions
of dollars that goes overseas.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So we know what, okay, So what's the scoop? What
are we doing? How are we doing it?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And you're still as supportive as you were. Here's the
Here the Brazilians have surpassed the US in this overview
of the tree trade war with China. China's decided to
buy soybeans from Brazil.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And let's see, oh man, look at this.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
The trade wars in terms of what we buy from
Brazil and what we sell to them. They're selling a
lot more stuff to us than we're buying than they
are buying from us.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And that's not a good situation under any circumstances. All right,
So what do you do?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Farmers are more optimistic about the trade war.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
They are.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They don't like it, but they're optimistic that it'll work
out the right way. And that's the best way to
be philosophically. I think you just have to kind of
wait and see because you don't know what the future is.
Don't listen to the news media. It is risky business,
no question about it. There is a period through this
summer that's extremely uncertain, and so you maybe work with
(07:55):
folks that are the farm bureaus working to try to
find new markets, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I could go on and on about this, but I'm
not going to because I think you.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Got the message right now. Let's talk about health care.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Here's another issue that's big on farmers' minds and people
pretty much across the country because the costs are going
up and up and up and up and up, and
as far as farmers are concerned and most Americans, it's
the biggest concern. A lot of people are forced to
make a choice between health care and other basic needs.
(08:28):
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Speaker 1 (09:29):
On the old Good Day Program, which many of you
used to listen to Monday through Friday on a lot
of these same stations that carry the American Family Farmer
every weekend, we used to have a segment called do
you Know and Do You Care? It was the fact file,
And so I came across something that I thought fit
very appropriately in the land of the Farm show, and
(09:52):
that was the story about carrots.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Did you know? Do you Care?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That carrots were not.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Always orange, right, they are orange, but that's just kind
of a recent development. The carrot was first cultivated over
five thousand years ago in Central Asia.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It was often bright purple.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So the carrots that we grow here in the west
became yellow and then orange.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
But you know.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Why because of this, well you probably do know why.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Maybe the farm folks are the ones who know more
about this than anything else. It has to do with
the soil and what things there are in the soil.
That's what makes up the taste of the food we
grow or the color of the food we grow. Did
you know that, in terms of tons, the number of
the weight in tons of carrots grown in our country
(10:46):
last year three point four billion tons of carrots. The
percentage of the typical carrot that's water is eighty eight percent.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Right, And.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Let's see here the number of genes in a carrot
jeans G E, N E s. You didn't know this,
twenty percent more than humans. There are more genetically modified
things that you can get in a carrot than you
can as a human being.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Thirty two thousand. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
All right, so some facts, just for the heck of
bringing you facts and figures on the American family farmer
Doug Stefan here back on the American Family Farmer with
my guest Judy Wood, who's the owner of Poultry Hollow
Hatchery down at Brush Creek, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And one of the things that I want to start talking.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
About in this Wood as we go through the life
of a lady who's running a hatchery. The weather where
you are has been pretty wild this spring, Judy, how
has that affected what you're doing on your farm?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Really? Not mad? The way my farm is.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
We don't have any problems flooding. Goodness, it just hasn't
hit us band here. You know, Kentucky got it really bad,
but we've been safe, thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
All right, Well, that's good to know.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You're in the mid Tennessee areas, I understand it near
Carthage in Smith County, Tennessee. Are there a lot of
people in the same business that you're in down in
that area.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
No, not really.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
There's a few people that sell chickens, you know, on
sad but not as lord.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I mean, we're we're pretty big.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
How did you this is a family thing. You've been
on the farms. You grow up as a farm kid,
and are you second, third, fourth generation?
Speaker 7 (12:48):
No, fr was born in west Chester Family, New York,
twenty miles from New York City. My dad moved us
a Florida to when I was seven, and Florida started
getting more and more people in the seventies, and I
(13:09):
decided I needed to get out of Florida. There were
two new people, and so we moved Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Wow, that's not a story that you every day. It's
usually the exact opposite. It's okay, we've had enough in
New York. We've had enough in Tennessee. It's time for
us to retire. We're going to Florida. So that's very interesting.
You went the old area, But that's all right. Listen,
it's obviously served you well. So if you grew up
in New York and you then spend a lot of
(13:38):
time in Florida, then you ended up in Tennessee. What's
the connection to the chicks? How did you get into
the chick business?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
If you will?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Well, it happened my son was diagnosed with the brain aneurismo,
and they it was managing a hotel and it was
fired from this job, and we decided we were selling chicks.
But we decided we'd get into it bigger and we
(14:08):
went and to purchase chickens from people so we could
start hatching in that and the chickens we purchased were
old chickens. They weren't laying anymore, they were dying. And
my son looked at me and he says, mom, these
people were selling us their old chickens. And he said
(14:30):
that's not right. He said, we need to do something
about it. And that's how poultriol was created.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
What did you find you buying the old chicks? There
is a market for it. Campbell's Soup makes their chicken.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Soup out of old old hens, not necessarily old chicks,
but old hens.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So there is a market for him.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Is that what happened with the hens that you had?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
No, because we can't kill anything. We love animals so much.
We can't kill a deer. No, we're not back back.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It should do well when we continue here on the
American Family Firm. We got to figure out how you
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Hatchery down and Brush Creek, Brush Creek, Tennessee. Interesting story
(16:22):
about how you have not killed off any of the chickens.
So I guess the question that would come from a
lot of folks is how do you make money. You've
got a whole different thing going on there. Now you've
been there for a while. So how many chicks do
you hatch every month?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Well, this year has been unbelievable. It's been like it
hasn't been like any other year. We had people lined
up for chickens, a lot of people scared because of
price of eggs.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
We were selling probably about five hundred.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Chicks a week, which is a huge amount for us.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
People were scared and.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
How much of the being afraid was based on the
realities of the Avian flu?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Do you think, Judy, Well, I think it was a
combination of things. With the Avian flu, we we lost
a lot of layers and that made egg prices go
up apparently, Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
So people got nervous. They these are.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
The amount of first timers was incredible, people that have
never raised chickens before in their life and they're they're
buying baby chicks to raise.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was quite amazing.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
And then broilers, the amount of broilers we sold this year,
we sold more than we have in all our years combined.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So what's your source of the chicks of the eggs?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You have a large flock of the hens that you
keep in there, and that's where they come from.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Do you have another source?
Speaker 7 (18:24):
We do, but we do buy eggs, sooe we buy
chicks because we have to supplement. I mean, we just
we carried a lot of breeds. We probably have over
thirty breeds of chickens us probably.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Who would have ever thought that's news to me? I
didn't know there were that many breeds of chicken. I'm
not a chicken guy. Although I do have chickens on
my farm. I leave that to the lady who runs
the farm. Mary is the chicken lady.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
But I if.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You'd have told me that there were thirty or forty
different breeds of poultry like this, I would have said,
huh as oh.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
And then they're creating more and more breeds. You know.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
They started with the frizzles. That's a little coaching banter.
It's a it's a bandam chicken and they breath it
and it comes out with fish frizzled feathers. They look
like it's been electrocute. They're adorable, I mean they're adorables
(19:30):
can be. And then from the frizzles, they're making sizzles.
And then they have zombie chickens. I mean, probably the
day doesn't go by when I get a call, a
call about a breathe that I had never even heard of.
There's just so many breeds, it's it's incredible, and it's
(19:52):
all the sect different personalities that it's just cheat it's
it's truly heartwarming to raise chickens.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm a cow guy. I've never cows have very distinct personalities.
Has do people and dogs, and most animals do have
their own personality.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I don't think that I.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Would have thought having been around chickens, just you know,
because of the eggs and when they get old, they
become they become food, at least on the farms that
I've been around since I was a kid. But in
this circumstance, it's really kind of interesting to think that
the chicken has a has a personality, and that sort
(20:38):
of flies in the face for your pardon the punt
of the way these huge hatcheries you have, your you
got a lot of hatching chicks, and you've got a
lot of breeds. But if you go to the places
that are run by you know, the big the two
big poultry concerns in the country, they have contracts with
these guys that make you know, every ninety days they
(21:01):
bring in thirty forty thousand chicks and they raise them
as quickly as they can, and they kill them in
an awful It's just an amazing, terrible.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
If you having gone through it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And I say this in deference to my friends listening
who are in the chicken business. I remember spending some
time on a chicken farm down in Pennsylvania and seeing
how the animals were dispatched and how they were processed
after they were slaughtered.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I disgusted me. Frankly. I would.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Just discuss yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you and all
natural you do. You process chicken, you don't kill them,
but you sell them. What happens if an animal gets sick?
What do you do with a sick chicken? A sick chick?
Speaker 6 (21:52):
You know?
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Fortunately, thank god, I'm knock on wood. I'm knocking on
my head because I'm a wood. We haven't had any problems.
We've been very careful with you know, keeping the water
is clean, and their feeders clean and then clean, and
(22:14):
I you know, I think it's mainly because there's just
the big poultry places have so many thousands of chickens
that you know, it's you can understand how something that
an outbreak could start. But you know, we've been we've
been very grateful that we haven't had any problems.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
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Then we continue with a sort of a visit to
the farm, and that's one of the things they do
down at Poultry Hollow Hatchery. They have people come in,
we'll talk about that. These are all ideas that we're
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do this in a way that affects the success of
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Back here with.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Judy Wood, who owns the Poultry Hollow Hatchery down in Tennessee.
We're talking about the essence of what it takes to
be successful doing what you're doing on a smaller scale.
You were saying a lot of people buy They come
to your arm on Friday and Saturday and Sunday to
look around and buy their eggs. You sell a lot
(26:05):
of eggs. It looks like, what do you get for
a dozen? By the way, what are you selling eggs? Y?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Now?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
We're not selling eggs right now. We do have some
fergilized eggs for sale. If we sold a dozen, probably
five dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Wow, every dollars depending on but where who are? I
guess much as anything else.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So the situation in terms of the government and how
hard it is. Do people down there have to go
to the local government? People come in and say, Okay,
I want to buy a half a dozen chickens.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I want to keep them at home. I'm building a
little cage so I can have my own eggs.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Is they can just do that or do they have
to get permits from cities and towns down there?
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Yeah, some of them. Some of the cities require permits.
They normally charge about twenty five to thirty dollars, and
they allow people to have four to six chickens, usually
no roosters, you know, which is good? I mean, that's
enough chickens to sustaining the family with me.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh yeah, sure, of course it is, yeah, under the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So in terms of what you want to do going forward,
how does this business grow? How do you and your
son keep it where it is or make it bigger?
What's your goal as you move forward?
Speaker 7 (27:35):
I have no idea, that's an honest answer anyway. Yeah,
it seems like there's always something new added. I went
up to the nursery where we heaped the chicks a
few weeks ago, and I noticed in our big cage
(27:57):
out front that there were white pigeons and about twenty
of So my son bought some white pigeons, and so
now we're raising white pigeons also.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, we have some of those white pigeons. I don't
know where they came from. I've got some of those
on my farm as well. So all right now, if
even want to find out where you are, they can
go to Poultry Hollow Poultry spelled as Poultry Hollow Hatchery
dot org and you can find this.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You find the.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Story of the hatchery, the story of the folks that
are doing it, and maybe get some inspiration as to
what you can do on your own farm.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Because there, there's.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Never too many chickens, it seems in never too many eggs.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And check you out their.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Inventory on their website again it's a poultry hollow farm
Poltryhollow dot org. All right, Judy continues success, Good luck
to you and your son.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Thank you, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Because of my own experience in farming, and we're on
farmers and the life of a cow, if you will,
been on cows all my life, there are lots of
people around me I grew up around that are no
longer farming. And so as I'm talking about some of
the things that I talked about earlier in the program,
the tariffs and the uncertainty of what goes on the weather,
(29:30):
it's like, it's farming really worth it. And so looked
into a family lady who farms alongside her father and
her husband and her son down in Arkansas. She was
testifying before the Senate Committee on Agriculture. She talked about
the harsh reality that farmers face this year and every year.
(29:55):
This farming family happens to be in the rice business,
which is fairly unusual. But last year, twenty billion tons
of rice were grown in America and it created one
hundred and twenty five thousand jobs across our nation. There
(30:17):
are six rice producing states where small communities depend on
the rice industry, and so when the weather is not
so good, and this lady, her name is Jennifer James,
talked about how expensive it is to grow this crop
and the economic turmoil not only this year, but if
(30:39):
you look at the last number of years, this has
created a problem.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
This farm has been in the family for four.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Generations and she says, right now they're in a very
fragile financial situation, and so are most of us.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Right Supporting your family is.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Probably very difficult. It is for most farmers.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's why there are so many farms that are supported
by the people running it, having off the farm jobs
around here, a lot of people drive school buses in
the morning after they've milk their cows, and then they
can do the work to take care of the cows
during the midday and they go drive the school bus.
They come back and they milk the cows again, and
they get thirty five dollars an hour, which is a
(31:24):
heck of a lot more than they get staying on
the farm. So why do we do it? Is this
reality that is I grew up on the farm. I
want to save the farm. It's Americana, But the farm
economy is so dicey, and there's prolonged storms that every
(31:45):
year eat away. Some years we have great years. The
cattle industry right now, for example, beef industry, you can
buy if you're lucky, depending on which you want to do,
at Cargill and and eight a m and all the
others that are involved in the big processing world of
(32:06):
American food. They're paying unbelievable prices for sometimes it's three
bucks a pound for these cattle on the hoof. And
under that circumstance, you've got a lot of people that are,
you know, instead of raising dairy animals, they're breeding their
(32:28):
heifers back or cows back with a beef bull and
so what comes out is a beefer that they can
raise and sell for a lot more money they can
sell their milk for. But the other side of that
is that it's causing a real strain on dairy cows
because there are enough of them around now, and the
prices of those animals are going way up. So if
(32:51):
you're on that side of the world that is raising
the beef not for milk, but for having it on
the hoof, and it's good for you right now, But
then the message of so many others, and that'll be
maybe this year, it's great next year. It is a
milk's down in nineteen in my area. It was earlier
in the spring twenty four bucks one hundredweight, which is
(33:11):
just barely enough to pay what it costs to.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Make the milk.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Now it's floating around nineteen dollars because of the spring flush.
Nineteen dollars one hundredweight. What a disgusting number. That's why
I encourage as many people as I can maybe get
together form a co op and produce your milk and
bring it to the co op and process it yourself
and sell it yourself, and cut out the guys in
(33:37):
the middle that have been screwing the dairy farmers in
this country for.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Years and years.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Anyway, So I guess I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
This whole business of why people stay on the farm
and is it really worth it. I guess probably most
of you will say yes, depending on your age. I
would say yes, But I have to do other things
in order to make the farm work, and some years
it doesn't, and I can't even do that with my
outside income. So it's kind of silly, isn't it that
(34:06):
we have this cock eyed understanding of what life looks
like on the Farmer's very bucolic, and yet it's a
real stress and strain on the farmers. So I passed
that along. Maybe something you ask yourself, is farming really
worth it? I would say yes, but you come up
with your own answer. The American Family Farmer podcast sponsored
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