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September 19, 2025 17 mins
Legendary guitarist Michael Schenker returns to discuss "Don't Sell Your Soul," the second part of an album trilogy that began with 2024's "My Years With UFO." We talk the new record, Axl Rose's contribution to the previous one, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's just fantastic. But then Michael would say, oh, but
actually doesn't think so, and he wants to make it better.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the podcast Appetite for Distortion, Episode number five
hundred and thirty two. My name is Brando. Welcome back
to the podcast, mister Michael Shanker. How are you, sir?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hi? Fine? Thank you? How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I am doing?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Swell?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Just the heads up. You may hear my two year
old in the background running around as I'm recording here
in my apartments here in Queen's Just a heads up
if you hear a child's noise, child streaming. Okay, where
are you? If you don't mind me asking.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
We are getting ready for our ninth show. We are
today in I'm now Pulis.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, I'm gonna pretend and nod my head that I
know where that is. But that sounds beautiful. Mary Maryland, Okay,
I'm a New Yorker. I don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, we just drove past it.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, right on, right on. Well, you were here on
the podcast a year ago via zoom via or wherever
you are in the world, Maryland, or wherever you were
at the time. I forget we were talking about your
previous album, and I didn't expect this. This is a
second part in a trilogy that you're releasing. Don't sell
your soul. So if you can tell us about was

(01:28):
this always the plan because you did my years with
UFO and now here's part two? Is this always the plan?
They have a trilogy?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, it was like I realized that it was the
fiftieth anniversary of my years with the UFO, or you
could call it my Songs with the UFO, because that's
what I chose to record the seventy two till seventy eight.
All the songs, the main songs that I wrote for UFO,
the music part and that you know from from phenomenon

(02:02):
to force it to no heavy pattern, lights out, obsession,
and then those the songs on Strangers in the Night
became the best off kind of thing. And and you
know I picked the most. I picked the songs that
I wrote to re record and to celebrate because basically

(02:25):
I'm I am. I am celebrating my development from seventy
two till seventy eight that happened in the band ufl
and that was also the start of my that was
the development of my guitar playing from a recording to

(02:46):
recording year after year, you know, getting to the next level,
next level, until I finished, and until we did the
recording for Strangers in the Night, and then that was
released Insane seventeen nine, and the Scorpions the Love Drive
album that I helped my brother and the Scorpions to

(03:08):
get to the next level, and that was released also
in seventy nine. Ironically, both bands I left at the
same time, and both bands released an album in seventy nine.
And then in nineteen eighty I started Michael Shenka Group.
Many people that you know put Michael Shenka on Google.

(03:29):
All they get is Michael Shenka, and they think that
my musical life started in the eighties, and so I
thought that would be a good reason to adapt fiftieth anniversary,
would be a good way to re educate people, because
like pil Moore did re releases, UFO re Releases was
just the name UFO and no you know and the

(03:53):
song title and nothing, no information. So I thought it
would be good to let the people on on it
re educate or also educate people, you know, the new generations,
newcomers knowing what giving them a little few more details
and then and then, and the reason for the three

(04:15):
albums was that I wanted to let in general people
in a shortcut way know what I've been doing in
my life. In general, it's only like three different things,
basic basic things. One was the development with UFL, and
then one was of course I started with the Scorpions,
and but the the in the nineteen eighty I started

(04:40):
the MSG Michael Schenker group and carried on with my
self expression, which I have been doing ever since I
guess I was born kind of, you know, a self
expression was always something that was, you know, figuring out
how to play tennis myself rather than having a teacher
and just doing it a certain way. And basically that

(05:05):
was the focus in from the ages onwards, to continue
your self expression rather than you know, when I left
the UFL they started to peak, and the Scorpions the
same thing. But I already I left both of these
bands for a reason. That and that's why I didn't

(05:25):
join Ozzy Osborne, et cetera, et cetera, because that was
would be like going back to where I just came
came from. But the reason was to carry on self expression,
not being connected to a trend and and doing, you know,
expressing myself no matter if we would make money or not,
but having fun with music as an artist. That was
more important for me, and so I wanted to that.

(05:49):
I wrote the lyrics to sell don't sell your soul
and in a shortcut, letting people know why I did
what I did, et cetera, et cetera. And that is
one of the rare occasions that I write lyrics. And
then there was the third album that will be out

(06:13):
in twenty six, probably somewhere the end of twenty six
Callde Freedom of Expression, which is another part that I
did in my middle years, a lot of acoustic instrumentals
and electric instrumentals. But that third album was supposed to
be an acoustic instrumental or acoustic ant remember exactly, But
it turned out to be an excellent album with vocals

(06:35):
and drums, Hormone revel from the Scorpions it plays drums
on it, and all sorts of funny things on this album.
I mean, like, like, you know, we were tuning too
four thirty two, which is apparently the Vibration of the
Universe that Pink Floyd used that kind of tuning for

(06:55):
Dark Side of the moon, and so that is a
that is the third album that is more in the
in a different that is the other way, you know,
more more what do you call it? Like kind of
more in the acoustic type of vibration, but really interesting.

(07:16):
But I did it not with acoustic guitar. I did
with the same guitar I played on My Years with
the UFO and and on on Don't Say Your Soul,
but just with the clean sounds. It's a very interesting,
you know, a sound and songs a very good and
so these are the three. That's what I wanted to do.

(07:37):
I wanted to you know. So I started recording My
Years with the UFO in UH twenty three in June
twenty twenty three, and finished it in twenty four in February.
And of course I was writing before I started recording,

(08:00):
and yeah, and then finally it was all done, and
now we are on the second album. Don't Sell Your
Soul and Don't Tell Your Soul means nothing other than well,
you know, the idea behind it is that if you
have found a place you're happy with, don't leave it
being blinded by money and find yourself in misery. So

(08:21):
basically that's that's what I'm trying to say with it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I love that, I mean, the whole story of your
career and all mixed up with just musically, and you're
telling a story and just how you've never sold your
soul and that's so hard to do in the industry,
not to do that because the money and certain fame
could be could be overwhelming. Not that I have the

(08:45):
money and fame, but I've heard that could be overwhelming.
So I mean, it really speaks a lot to your character.
And if you can talk just a little bit about
the single and working with the former skid Row singer
Eric Runwall, how has that been?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, he was, he was already. I discovered him through
Michael fossmucoproducer. I heard a skid Row song he was copying.
It was so great the way he was singing it,
and so we got him for them my years with
UFO singing on Mother Mary with a Slash playing guitar

(09:19):
and myself and then when we did the Don't Sell
Your Soul, and it came down to, you know, there
were certain songs that we oneer who could sing them,
and you know, I said, like, you know what about
Eric Rnwell, And we asked him, and he said, Wow,
this is my kind of rock and roll. Was good

(09:40):
to hear that he was one hundred percent behind it
and he did a fantastic job.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
That's so cool because yeah, I liked his his his
song on My ears with UFO, and I spoke to
you about that last time, of course, and specifically because
if you noticed the name of the podcast, Appetite for
Distortion play on words, we spoke about Slash being on
the record and Axel Rose being on the record. So
I'm just to deviate a little bit and go back
a little bit because you told me that. You know,

(10:07):
Axel was on Love to Love, but he recorded two
other songs but wasn't happy with it, I guess at
the time. I'm just curious if you think we'll ever
see those two other Axle songs that didn't make that
first record, ever see the light of day? Will they
come out?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah? That sounded really good, but he didn't finish them
for his own you know how he wanted to finish it,
and they were in the middle of a tour and
so he couldn't really he couldn't really complete it was
too much. See, I think he inspired himself too thin,
and he decided just to stick with a love to
love and fantastic job.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yes he did, and uh, because I am I'm curious.
As you mentioned before, we go back to the new album,
and I guess it pertains to the new album and
all the work that you're putting out now, because it's
so much the Axel is a known perfectionist and I
love that about him. And it's either love it or
hate it. But he you saw that he was a perfectionist.
It was like were you there when he was recording

(11:04):
or were you I just what did you see that?
You're like, oh, this is good, Axel, this is good,
Like it's leaving alone, like no, no, let's do What
is perfectionist meaning to you?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Is a perfectionist? I guess? I mean, you know, Michael
Fas my Copple juice. I was cooperating with him more
than you know. It's it's he was in charge of,
you know, getting what he was getting from from al
and he would play to me what actually had done
and I would say it's just fantastic. But then Michael
would say, oh, but what actual doesn't think so and

(11:37):
he wants to make it better, And so I said Okay,
go ahead. So we went back and forth, back and forth,
and you know, it took two months, but you know,
I was happy with the result of Love to Love.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh yeah, many fans fans were and that that album
was I mean, did you expect the success off that
album because you mentioned that you and it don't tell
your soul. You're not driven by the numbers and success.
You do things that you're passionate about. But it was
not well received with that? Is that humbling? Like what

(12:09):
was the feeling of the success of the last record
going into this new one.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's fantastic, It's you know, it was like I was
happy just with the thought to celebrate my songs with
the UFO for that period of time, and uh, you know,
and and watching the development like I go in a
studio with with sketchers, you know, with sketchers, not with songs,
and I never know. I'm basically building a house without

(12:38):
a plan. I never know what's coming out, and that
is the fun part for me. And so the same
with my other the UFO. It just kind of goes
brick by brick, you know, he just go and then
you go like, wow, you know, this is shaping up
really good, and that's always the excitement. And then you
don't know who's going to be singing which song and this,
and so every time you canider was singing not your thing? Yeah,

(13:02):
you know, it's like that, And it's like constantly it's
like a surprise after surprise after surprise. It goes on
and on and on. It's a long process with constant
editions of guitarists and singers who are musical musicians, you know,
fans a musicians, fans who have made it big by

(13:27):
being you know, fans of Michael Senka and UFO, and
now you have them on the record and you set
up right together with them. It's a fantastic it certainly is.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
And speaking of I guess surprises. Are there any surprises
you think listeners will get or is it on this
new record or is it just well, I guess we
can't ever predict with you. I was going to say
traditional Michael Shanker, but I'm not sure that's really a thing. Like, yeah,
there's always that hint of you, but you always make
things different. So any surprises if you would label it

(13:55):
that and don't sell your soul that we can expect surprises.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, because the different singers on it, okay, you know,
so that's the surprises. And then of course we have
you know, the Michael Sinker group playing and uh, you know,
Bouder Shops and Baron Cobra and Steve Mann and Eric
Breinbell singing and we are basically, oh, Leah is on

(14:19):
it too. Leah is singing It's You. And Leah was
found because Eric Coronville has an issue, health issue, and
I was made aware of it and my agent I
discovered a really good singer and I had that singer
make a demo for you know of of Love to

(14:41):
Love and only you can Rock Me and those songs,
you know, three four songs, and he sounded fantastic. And
then I sounded so good that I said to my
Red Company, I want him to sing that song It's You,
and he did. And so we have you know, Robin, Leah,
Eric and Michael Foss on that reg god and Leah
is currently singing on the road with us in America

(15:05):
my years with the UFO, and so that's what's happening
then in in in In in January, end of January,
we are touring the Japan sold out UH tour, including
the Buddha Khan, which I want to record. Live recording

(15:25):
will be released and that's with with Eric Kroinwell and
the original album line up which is Brian Kittree on
drums and Derek Curaney on keyboards, micro Fos on guitar
and vocals and myself Very Sparks on bass. And so
that's going to be a live recording. And then I

(15:49):
do with Leah, I do the the Acoustic Meats Meats
Rock in in Germany, uh yeah, in a tour, and
then we do the second lack of my years with
the UFO with Leah singing in Europe. Then we have
an MSG MSG offers coming in and one of them

(16:13):
is headlining Japan Festival. But we play strictly MSG and
my use with the UFO is strictly my use was
the UFO beautiful.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I love it. You're a busy man, and I hope
I think you said last time, correct me if I'm wrong,
that maybe Axel would make an appearance in Japan.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think he's Oh, that would be fantastic. Yeah. Still,
that's again, you know, it's something that can happen. That's
very exciting.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Wish will thinking wish we'll thinking. I'm sure regardless, you
are a busy man, and we fans, we are very
lucky that you know just all the entire your entire
history of music you already put out there and you're
continuing to do it. So not only is I Don't
Sell your Soul coming out October third, we have more
Michael Schenker group coming out next year. So just Michael,

(16:58):
thank you so much for your time, really appreciate it,
and just continue being you.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Thank you very much, keep on walking.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
You got it. Thank you, Michael. So that does it
for this episode of Appetite for Distortion. Keep up to
date with everything. The conversation continues in between the broadcast,
social mediaafdpod dot com and when will you see the
next episode? In the words of Axel Rose, concerning Chinese democracy,
I don't know as soon as the word, but you'll see.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
It thanks to the lame ass security.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'm going home.
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