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This week’s podcast discusses how the U.S. Pluto return has brought us to the point where people protesting in the streets against the “disappearance” of people under the orders of the government-sanctioned Immigration & Customs Enforcement agency may well mark the beginning of the recurrence of the American Revolution.
This podcast discusses all that’s occurred as we continue to wax toward the exact Mars/Uranus & Jupiter/Saturn squares on June 15. And how that includes President Trump’s use of the Los Angeles protests to justify usurping California’s Governor Gavin Newsom legal authority to call in first that state’s national guard, and then the federal marines.
That we are in a recurrence of the time of the birth of this nation, and since the exact Pluto return to its natal place in the U.S. Sibly birth chart, seems more undeniable than ever now. This podcast explains how recurrent energies work and highlights how the events of the January 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol insurrection a year before the first exact Pluto return conjunction on February 20, 2022, set the U.S. into revolutionary motion.
We further discuss the transits & progression to the U.S. chart on January 6, and how the “big lie” by sore loser Donald Trump created illusion, confusion, & delusion of millions in this nation by the time of the U.S. progressed lunar new moon on March 25, 2024. This occurred in Pisces in the nation’s 3rd House of communication, & seems to correlate with the lies & conspiracy theories swallowed hook line & sinker by millions who were deceived into believing a second Trump presidency would be anything like the first.
We look, too, at where the U.S. progressed Moon is now, as it approaches a conjunction to our natal 7th House Venus, Jupiter, & Sun, all in Moon-ruled Cancer. And how, since Mercury & Jupiter entered sensitive, nurturing, protective Cancer on June 8 & 9, respectively, & as we approach the June 15 Jupiter/Saturn waxing square, we’ve seen emotions expand in reaction to actions taken by a tyrannical wannabe dictator against his own citizenry.
“It feels as if the underbelly of the entire country is now on full view,” Eddie Glaude, Jr., Princeton University academic & political pundit recently stated. In doing so, he aptly sums up the nature of Pluto’s current energies, that of exposing all our dirty laundry—not to mention this nation’s history of political dirty tricks—to the surface for all to see.
What’s been made clear since the June 11 Sagittarius Full Moon—which formed a mutable cross to the transiting nodal axis—is that we must eschew the more myopic perspective for a much larger, bigger picture understanding of what’s actually happening now.
And that’s especially true as we wax toward the explosive nature of Mars in Leo’s square to Uranus in Taurus, best exemplified right now not only by the sudden martial actions taken against U.S. citizens by its own government, but internationally as well.
Though not covered in this podcast since it occurred post recording, we know now that Israel has bombed Iran’s capital and killed several prominent leaders there, including those in charge of its nuclear program. This, not only as we approach the exact Mars/Uranus square, but also as transiting Mars quincunxes the U.S. natal Pluto.
Ya can’t get more of a plutonic message than that, between what’s going on here and the U.S.’s pre-knowledge of Israel’s actions, since the government moved many Americans out of its nearby embassies in the Middle East.
As the Saturn/Neptune in Aries dance continues, we’re also seeing far more instability not only in the U.S., but worldwide. Today marks a day when the waxing Saturn/Pluto synodic cycle, begun on January 12, 2020, continues to illustrate a global realignment of power. We sit on the potential doorstep of WWIII and wait and watch to see how Iran will make good on its threat to retaliate.
Meanwhile, all eyes are on the military parade in Washington, D.C., on Trump’s BD June 14, as all this chaos now swirls around not only the U.S. but the world. Will something sudden happen that involves the military? Will the troops who’ve been assigned to this parade and to California be needed elsewhere while they’re distracted by being in D.C.?
As for the pending June 15 Jupiter/Saturn, this podcast discusses how the mythological battle between Jupiter (Zeus) & Saturn is one between the old & the new, the old & the young. We’re seeing this play out now in American politics as Democrats resist allowing older Congressional incumbents to be primaried by younger people.
We’re also seeing the tension between established law (Jupiter) & authorities who want to bypass those laws to achieve their immediate aims. It’s here that the Saturn/Neptune in Aries energy comes into play, a
This week’s podcast discusses how the U.S. Pluto return has brought us to the point where people protesting in the streets against the “disappearance” of people under the orders of the government-sanctioned Immigration & Customs Enforcement agency may well mark the beginning of the recurrence of the American Revolution.
This podcast discusses all that’s occurred as we continue to wax toward the exact Mars/Uranus & Jupiter/Saturn squares on June 15. And how that includes President Trump’s use of the Los Angeles protests to justify usurping California’s Governor Gavin Newsom legal authority to call in first that state’s national guard, and then the federal marines.
That we are in a recurrence of the time of the birth of this nation, and since the exact Pluto return to its natal place in the U.S. Sibly birth chart, seems more undeniable than ever now. This podcast explains how recurrent energies work and highlights how the events of the January 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol insurrection a year before the first exact Pluto return conjunction on February 20, 2022, set the U.S. into revolutionary motion.
We further discuss the transits & progression to the U.S. chart on January 6, and how the “big lie” by sore loser Donald Trump created illusion, confusion, & delusion of millions in this nation by the time of the U.S. progressed lunar new moon on March 25, 2024. This occurred in Pisces in the nation’s 3rd House of communication, & seems to correlate with the lies & conspiracy theories swallowed hook line & sinker by millions who were deceived into believing a second Trump presidency would be anything like the first.
We look, too, at where the U.S. progressed Moon is now, as it approaches a conjunction to our natal 7th House Venus, Jupiter, & Sun, all in Moon-ruled Cancer. And how, since Mercury & Jupiter entered sensitive, nurturing, protective Cancer on June 8 & 9, respectively, & as we approach the June 15 Jupiter/Saturn waxing square, we’ve seen emotions expand in reaction to actions taken by a tyrannical wannabe dictator against his own citizenry.
“It feels as if the underbelly of the entire country is now on full view,” Eddie Glaude, Jr., Princeton University academic & political pundit recently stated. In doing so, he aptly sums up the nature of Pluto’s current energies, that of exposing all our dirty laundry—not to mention this nation’s history of political dirty tricks—to the surface for all to see.
What’s been made clear since the June 11 Sagittarius Full Moon—which formed a mutable cross to the transiting nodal axis—is that we must eschew the more myopic perspective for a much larger, bigger picture understanding of what’s actually happening now.
And that’s especially true as we wax toward the explosive nature of Mars in Leo’s square to Uranus in Taurus, best exemplified right now not only by the sudden martial actions taken against U.S. citizens by its own government, but internationally as well.
Though not covered in this podcast since it occurred post recording, we know now that Israel has bombed Iran’s capital and killed several prominent leaders there, including those in charge of its nuclear program. This, not only as we approach the exact Mars/Uranus square, but also as transiting Mars quincunxes the U.S. natal Pluto.
Ya can’t get more of a plutonic message than that, between what’s going on here and the U.S.’s pre-knowledge of Israel’s actions, since the government moved many Americans out of its nearby embassies in the Middle East.
As the Saturn/Neptune in Aries dance continues, we’re also seeing far more instability not only in the U.S., but worldwide. Today marks a day when the waxing Saturn/Pluto synodic cycle, begun on January 12, 2020, continues to illustrate a global realignment of power. We sit on the potential doorstep of WWIII and wait and watch to see how Iran will make good on its threat to retaliate.
Meanwhile, all eyes are on the military parade in Washington, D.C., on Trump’s BD June 14, as all this chaos now swirls around not only the U.S. but the world. Will something sudden happen that involves the military? Will the troops who’ve been assigned to this parade and to California be needed elsewhere while they’re distracted by being in D.C.?
As for the pending June 15 Jupiter/Saturn, this podcast discusses how the mythological battle between Jupiter (Zeus) & Saturn is one between the old & the new, the old & the young. We’re seeing this play out now in American politics as Democrats resist allowing older Congressional incumbents to be primaried by younger people.
We’re also seeing the tension between established law (Jupiter) & authorities who want to bypass those laws to achieve their immediate aims. It’s here that the Saturn/Neptune in Aries energy comes into play, a
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All right, so let's start off.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This week since we just experienced a couple days ago,
the June eleventh Sagittarius full moon, which with the Sagittarius
moon opposing the Gemini sun, cautioned us to release our
short time myopic opinions and perspectives and the tactics we
used based on those opinions and perspectives, and to trade
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them in for a greater understanding of the overall meaning
of the bigger, long term picture Gemini Sun's energy. As
I've mentioned before, Gemini as an archetype is much more
concerned with local information and near neighborhood stuff, and that
can in its lowest form be considered superficial gossip all
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the way to dis and misinformation, to propaganda and conspiracy theories,
and Sagittarius, which is ruled by the planet Jupiter, is
more about higher consciousness in terms of understanding what is
the overall meaning of our lives. So, also at this
particular lunation, we had the Sagittarius moon and the Gemini
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sun in square to both the mean and the true
transiting nodal axes. Right, I've mentioned before the difference between
the two of them. I'm not going to go into
it now, but suffice it to say that they run
pretty close together. And so for this our purposes now
there's not a lot of time between exactness.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Celeste Teel, the nostrologer who wrote the book The Lunar
Nodes Discover Your Soul's Karmic Mission, points out that this
energy of the Sun and the moon, and she points
out the energy of the transit moon square the nodal
axis is similar to the transiting moon over the south node,
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and she writes that it can cause quote increased sensitivity
of change in temperament. Domestic matters are under increased focus,
and it's more likely that you play the part of
the mother or the nurturer for someone else. Female interests
and health issues are highlighted.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Of course, you know this is written more in terms
of a personal chart, but I don't think it takes
much to extrapolate out into the collective right, because this
is a full moon that the whole world is experiencing,
or at least the whole world that follows Western I
reached the portion of the world that follows Western tropical astrology.
As for the sun squaring the nodal access, Teel notes
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this quote things take a discouraging turn, and there are
compromises to make others question your credentials. Maybe on appreciative
of your efforts, and the ego is injured, this is
the time to make adjustments to your methods, using the
present circumstances as a guide to modifications needed. Efforts may
feel like an energy drain. Now, let's understand this in
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light of what's been going on recently, especially since this
lunation also had Mars and Leo waxing toward an exact
square to Uranus and Taurus and Jupiter and Cancer waxing
toward its exact square to Saturn and Ares, which will
both perfect on June fifteenth, Meaning these energies are strong
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getting stronger day by day, right, And the symbolic nature
of this lunation's square to the transitting nodal axis, and
that's that the moon in mundane astrology represents the people
and the Sun the ruler, and their opposition tells us
that they are not in alignment. And the way we
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look at it psychologically is that the Moon is the emotions,
the Moon is the heart, and the Sun is the
ego and the empirically oriented, rational logical mind.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So hence these.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Two are in need of integration, which is what happens
with all astrological oppositions, and what we're seeing now given
recent events, since the protests began in Los Angeles on Friday,
June sixth, they're now a week old, and this is
that this opposition is really between the archetypal mother and father.
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So since Mercury and Jupiter entered sensitive Moon ruled cancer
on June eighth and ninth, respectively, we the people have
been driven out into the streets by our nurturing instincts
to protect both ourselves and others, because we may feel
as though the whole world is our family based on
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the uncompromising nature of the father slash leader. And why well,
that's easy, right, because the Sun and Gemini has been
using tactics like usurping California Governor Gavin Newsom's authority to
call in the California National Guard and then the Federal Marines,
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which are part of the United States Army or armed forces.
So he has done so to curtail, restrict, block, etc.
The rights of quote unquote the people to protest peacefully
under the Constitution's First Amendment. And that is part and
parcel of the currently waxing energies of both mars Uranus
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and the Jupiter Saturn squares, which again won't exact until
June fifteenth. Now, the recent Sagittarius full moon implored us
during its way. It implores us now during its waning
lunar cycle phase to release shortsighted perspectives in favor of
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the overall meaning of how we got to these current events.
And that overall meaning revolves around several astrological cycles. Now,
the biggest of which, at least for here in the US, is,
of course, the already triggered Pluto return, which began in earnest.
I believe the year before transiting, Pluto perfected its exact
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conjunction to the US sibly charts Natal Pluto. Now, I
was on Facebook recently and a pretty well known astrologer
had a thread going there, and in it he just
sort of referenced the Pluto return, and he noted that
some astrologers think, because it happened back on February twentieth
of twenty twenty two, that is already over. And I've
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said numerous times, and I'll say here again, how ridiculous
I think that kind of an assumption is, Because anyone
who studies astrology seriously understands the astrology is the study
of cycles, and that cycles don't just happen, you know,
end as soon as the planet touches the other planet
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by aspect, whether it's conjunction or any other of the aspects.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That we use or know of. And so I take
issue with that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's got the hairs on the back of my neck
standing up a little, because you know, I've been talking
about the Pluto return for weeks and weeks and months now,
and it's just so such a big energy looming over
everything that's happening in the United States for the past
few years. That is just incredible to me that someone
would think, oh, that transit happened already and now the
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energies are gone. I'm like, okay, whatever, anyway, moving along.
That's my pet peeve for the day. So I'm gonna
mention this again, and I'm gonna mention it a lot,
and I'm sorry if it bores you, but I hope
to make some contextual remarks that might make more sense
to you about why.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So again.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The exact Pluto return conjunction took place at twenty seven
degrees and thirty three minutes of Pluto Capricorn in the US.
Sibley second house of of its chart on February twentieth
of twenty twenty two. And I've posited before that the
energies of this Pluto return again as I just said
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began the year before, as transiting Pluto was approaching Natal
Pluto on January sixth of twenty twenty one, which was
the day of the Capital insurrection by supporters of those
who believed that the twenty twenty US presidential election was
stolen from Donald Trump. And on that day, January sixth,
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twenty twenty one, we can see that transiting Pluto was
actually at twenty four degrees in twenty two minutes of
Capricorn into our second house of vows. Mind you, the
natal is twenty seven thirty three, so it was a
few degrees away, but it was almost exact opposite to
the US natal eighth house Mercury at twenty four degrees
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and eleven minutes of cancer. So transiting Pluto on January
sixth was at twenty four to twenty two, opposing the
Natal Mercury at twenty four to eleven.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's pretty tight. Thus the Pluto.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Transit triggered the Natal Mercury Pluto opposition from the eighth
to the twenty second, which is from twenty four twenty
one to twenty seven thirty three right, and which translates
into the potential for communicating to quote, coerce opinions and thinking,
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rather than to inform, as astrologer Rob Hand describes his
energy in his book Planets in Transit, Hand further cautions
the avoidance of quote fanatical ideas, that is, opinions that
you believe in absolutely and consider worthy of forcing on others.
Under this transit you become you can become totally possessed
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by convictions that have very little meaning but that you
insist on forcing on others. With this transit, there is
no point in asking for conflict. It will probably come anyway.
Hand concludes. Now, the progressed moon in the US sibly
chart in the second house was at two degrees and
thirty seven minutes of Aquarius, and quincunks to the US
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is natal seventh house Venus at three degrees and six
minutes of cancer. That is, you know, thirty one minutes
apart right on the day of the Capitol riot, and
the progressed moon moved by March of twenty twenty one
to quincunks. Our Natal seventh House, five degree fifty six
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Cancer Jupiter. It then exact conjoined the US I'm sorry,
not conjoined. It then exact. Oh yeah, no, it exact
conjoined the US natal second house seven degrees and thirty
five minute Aquarius south Node by May sixteen of twenty
twenty one. Meanwhile, transiting Neptune was in the US third
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House square to the US Natal seventh House Mars at
twenty one degrees in twenty twenty minutes twenty two minutes
of Gemini, and opposing our natal ninth house Neptune at
twenty two degrees twenty five minutes of Virgo by March
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I'm sorry, May twenty twenty one. So it's interesting to
note that the House of Representatives' investigation into January sixth
commenced with a public hearing on July twenty seventh of
twenty twenty one, marking how we waxed toward adjusting how
the people progressed Moon in Aquarius might reconcile or understand
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Third House what was happening on January sixth, with the
deeper meaning of the natal us cancer Sun's protective nature
of its partnership with its US citizenry In addition, the
progressed moon also quincunks the natal seventh house, thirteen degree
nineteen minute cancer US sun exact on October eleventh of
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twenty twenty one. So again, to me, this period marked
the beginning of the US Pluto return. Now, I've already
discussed how this essentially mirrors the fact that the first
shots were fired in the US Revolutionary War and conquered
in Lexington, Massachusetts, on April nineteenth of seventeen seventy five,
basically a year before the US Declaration of Independence was
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signed on July fourth of seventeen seventy six. And that
is where this sibly chart that I use comes from.
July fourth, seventeen seventy six at five I think it's
five eleven or five ten pm in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania for
those who don't know, and four year information. On April
nineteenth of seventeen seventy five, transiting Pluto was at twenty
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six degrees and forty one minutes, within a degree of
what became the US Natal Pluto at twenty seven degrees
thirty three minutes of capricorn on July fourth, seventeen seventy six. Now,
in addition, on April nineteenth of seventeen seventy five, transiting
Mars was at twenty six Leo, just inside of what
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became the tenth house of the Sibley chart, opposite the
goddess of chaos and discord Eiris at twenty six Aquarius
in the third house, now transiting Saturn at three Libre,
was also then in the tenth house of the would
be Sibley US birth chart in square to its natal
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three degree Venus and five degree Jupiter conjunction and Cancer
in the seventh house. So it's interesting that now we
have a Jupiter Saturn square at this time. And finally
Natal Chirn in Aries in the fourth house was within
one minute of a square to the seventh house thirteen
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nineteen cancer Sun while transmitting Juno, the archetype of the
wife or the partner was in Cancer in the eighth house,
within a degree of opposition to the natal Pluto and Capricorn.
And this was the day of the shot heard or
what became the Sibley or the US birth chart Natal Pluto.
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This was the day of the quote shot heard around
the world that started the US Revolutionary War by the
colonies to free themselves from the tyranny of the rule
by a British king. Well, all right, so that about
sums up January sixth, at least in hindsight, don't you think?
I mean the fact that the US has a Natal
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Mercury Pluto opposition and given the eighth to second house
placement of this aspect to me, it represent since this
nation's obsession with capitalism, Since the second house is material
resources and finances and the eighth house is shared resources.
It's also trust, right, because again I think I said
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this last week, you don't share your resources with those
who don't trust unless you know you're particularly naive, which,
of course does happen.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
We'll get into that later.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
But that the US likes to control both its domestic
and international policies through balancing these both. Right, there are
resources and shared resources is the optimal view of America.
But that this may become out of balance, as it
seems is happening now is the cautionary tale of this aspect.
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So though although it took another year the for transiting
Pluto to conjoin its Natal position in February of twenty
twenty two, from January sixth of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
The wheels for that deep stop.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
The Steel Lie propagated by sore loser Donald Trump, one
that had the crowd chanting hang Mike Pence and searching
through the halls of the Capitol Building for Democratic Speaker
of the House Nancy Pelosi, clearly with mal intent, were
set in motion at least a year before. So The
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Big Lie, which led to the Capital Insurrection on January sixth,
marks the beginning of this Neptunian period of lies, propaganda,
dis and misinformation reaching the millions, compromising Donald Trump's base.
By the time we reached the progressed lunar new moon
at nineteen degrees in sixteen minutes of Pisces in the
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US's Third House of Communication on March twenty fifth, twenty
twenty four, where the progressed sun had been in Pisces
since November two thousand and four, and the progressed moon
had entered into Pisces on December sixth of twenty twenty two,
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the lie was well on its way to being believed
by millions of people, and this was further solidified by
May tenth of twenty twenty four, when the progressed moon
in Pisse's exact squared natal Mars in the seventh and
opposed Natal Neptune in the US Ninth House on June
fifth of twenty twenty four. The Pisces progressed moon then
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began to separate from its opposition to natal Neptune but
exact opposed the US progressed Neptune on August twenty sixth,
twenty twenty four. Now, let's remember that this was the
period during which then President Joe Biden's disastrous presidential debate
with Donald Trump on June twenty seventh of twenty twenty
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four and his decision to drop out of the race
on July twenty first of twenty twenty four occurred.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Hence, the progressed.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Lunar new moon in Pisce's phase in the Third House
planted the seed of the then eighty one year old
president's cognitive dissolution and his subsequent disappearance from political power
by November twenty twenty four's presidential election. So the question
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now is what seed was planted On March twenty fifth
of twenty twenty four, a progressed a Pisces progressed lunar
new moon in the Third House. That puts the focus
on whether or not Neptune ruled Pisces is going to
be about developing greater empathy for our pharaoh fellow humans
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or about believing lies about them. So, in other words,
Neptune's Pisces is empathic, right, And the reason why it's
related to empathy is because it can feel other people's emotions.
So it feels grief, it feels emotional or spiritual pain,
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it feels anguish and anxiety.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But given what's occurred since then, and you know, the
challenge is for us to get there, right because if
the seed was planted, it hasn't fully grown yet. So
given what's occurred since then, over this past year, plus
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the election as president of an habitual liar, and this narcissist,
a power hungry exaggerator wanna be dictator, and yes I
am biased, we would have to hope that it's about
how this beginning will end up with a much more
all humans are created equal understanding as the ending. For now, however,
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I believe we are in the early stages of this
progressed lunar new moon fa in Pisces in the US
third House, which denotes a lot of Neptunian confusion, illusion,
and delusion, particularly around the archetypes presented by the Third House.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That is to say, do we believe.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Everything we hear read communication about our families, friends, neighborhood,
local community, and businesses, et cetera, including schools, these are
all Geminian archetypes. Or do we source this information determined
to determine if it's factual? Or do we source this
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information to determine from where it came i e. From
someone or a party with an ulterior motive or a
grander plan, whether that plan is part of a larger
agenda which possibly might not benefit us. In any case,
it's clear at this point that this country has returned
now to a state that does not present to us
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information that is factually true, and that some here swallow
these lies or exaggerations or distortions, if not outright propaganda
or conspiracy theories, hook line and sinker. Without seeking out
verification from authenticated sources, It's likely we won't know the
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direction of this progressed lunar New Moon's energies will take
until circa November fifth of twenty thirty, when the US
reaches its first quarter progressed Lunar crisis in action Square
of the seventh house progressed Moon, that's where it will
be at that time, at twenty six degrees and one
minute of Gemini to the third house progressed Sun in
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Pisces at twenty six degrees and one minute and guess what.
Oh look, November fifth, twenty thirty is the day of
the US mid term elections following the November seventh, twenty
twenty eight US presidential election. Now, though I'm tempted, there's
no sense in looking at either chart right now, since
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so much can happen between now and then, especially since
Uranus will be entering Gemini for the next seven years
on July seventh of this year, only about a month
away or less, and we have a long way to
go to see what more. Pluto and Aquarius, the exact
Saturn Neptune conjunction that will conjoin in February of twenty
twenty six, and the long term cycles including the Saturn
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Pluto cycle that started in twenty twenty and the Jupiter.
I mean, we're coming up to the waxing opening square
of the Jupiter Saturn cycle. But those, among other things,
what these will bring us. So meanwhile, with that as
our backdrop, combined with the Pluto returns ongoing energies. We
can add that as we wax toward the upcoming June
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fifteenth Mars Uranus and Jupiter Saturn squares that transiting Mars
yesterday on June twelfth, exact Quincunk's the us natal Pluto
from twenty seven to thirty three Leo to twenty seven
thirty three Capricorn. That means an adjustment is necessary or
is being made, yes, but also that this adjustment may
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involve violence. And this would fit the bill of the
waxing energies of the Mars Uranus upcoming square, which speaks
of potential sudden violence. Now we've already seen this, right.
I am not going to go into the details or
all the details of what's been happening in LA, because
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it's been going on since January sixth.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Then one of the things that I would.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Say is for those who believe that aspects are only
influential when they exact, this is definitely not true, or
especially not true in my professional experience or in looking
at aspects as they're waxing in my chart.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Now. You know.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Renowned astrologer Michael Luton, he used to say that some
people will feel a Pluto transit coming ten degrees away,
and another one he'll be doing their chart after the
Pluto transit just finished, and you know, are separating and
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they're like, huh, like they didn't recognize anything. So some
of us are more sensitive than others to astrological energy
than to particular astrological energy. So let me leave it there.
But obviously, in terms of the actual manifestations Mars and Leo,
Mars action, proactivity, ambition, motivation often represents the warrior, the
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military in the sign ruled by the Sun, which is Leo,
which is often connotated with a leader with royalty or
you know somebody who's powerful. Right, Squaring Uranus and Taurus,
which is about changed values, right, I was going to
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go into a whole riff, but I've already talked about.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
This many times already.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Urinus when it entered Taurus in May of twenty eighteen,
within two years we had we had worldwide change in values,
especially about relationships with which Venus's Taurus represents. Because of
the pandemic, and because that limited our our ability to
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see and hug and kiss and touch the people we
loved if we were separated from them, by you know, distance,
or many people who had elderly parents or relatives in
assisted living, or who have chill ldren and grandchildren who
live far away, et cetera. There are other things, and
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you know that I spoke of before. But soon the
dialogue is going to be all about Uranus entering Gemini, which,
as I said, happens on July seventh, so not too
distant future.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But you know, these kinds of issues that have been
going on in LA I expect that everybody's heard all
the news by now and knows all the facts. So
I'm not going to go into all of that other
than to say that under the Pluto return, you know,
we're in the recurrence of the American Revolutionary War all
right now. Yesterday, and I'm recording this just after it happened.
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US Senator Alex Padia, a Democrat from California, quote, was
forced to the floor, handcuffed, and removed by federal agents
after interrupting a news conference by the Homeland Security Secretary
Christine Gnome on Thursday in Los Angeles. According to The
New York Times, quote, it was the latest sign of
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the rising political tensions as authorities across the country geared
up for more demonstrations and California. In California and the
Trump administration faced off in a hearing in federal court,
and the articles The Times goes on. Democratic politicians as
well as some Republicans in California and Washington reacted with
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outrage to the video of the treatment of and by
federal agents. The Secretary Christy Nome was speaking about federal
immigration enforcement efforts in the city when mister Padilla raised
his voice to say that he had questions, prompting his removal,
even as he identified himself. Quote, this is what a
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dictatorship looks like. This is what happens when one person
tries to grab all the power, Senator Chris van Holland
of Maryland said, as Democrats continued to make speeches on
the Senate floor to express outrage over Senator Padilla's treatment.
And the video is easy to see, and you can
hear him identifying himself, and you can watch them push
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him to.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
The floor, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
But by the way, also according to The New York Times,
and again I quote Senator Alex Padia of California, the
son of Mexican immigrants, grew up in the San Fernando
Valley as a rule following overachiever who was nonetheless often
targeted as a bad kid because of his brown skin.
Growing up, mister Padilla played baseball and regularly attended church
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with his parents, one a short order cook and the
other a housecleaner. He eventually beat the system by getting
into the Massachusets in Massachusetts Institute of Technology end quote. This,
of course, follows the power grab by President Trump when
he usurped California Governor Gavin Newsom's authority to call in
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the National Guard to quell protests happening in and around
LA since June sixth, based on the false assumption that
the LAPD Los Angeles Police Department could not handle the
mostly peaceful but you know, with fairly limited violence that occurred.
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Some protesters set a few cars on fire and another
one through a Molotov cocktail. Originally, anyway, you know, by tomorrow,
who knows what the story will be. But the whole
point is that, as everybody should know by now, the
President went over the governor's head to activate the national
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California National Guard and then called in the Marines. So
the numbers and what they're doing and all of that,
and how many people have been arrested and how many
people have been let go, that's all in you know,
public domain.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Again.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
This is part of how, in my opinion, the US
Pluto return has brought us to the point where people
protesting in the streets under their First Amendment right freedom
of speech against tyrannical governmental authorities like ICE, the California
National Guard, and the Marines, all called in by President
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Trump may may well mark the beginning of the recurrence
of the American Revolution. And that's because I believe that
this country is inched closer to a dictatorial military takeover
by the US government as we've been waxing toward this
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Mars Uranus and Jupiter Saturn square, and the other thing
that's been happening is well, let me say a few
things about those squares. I would posit or hypothesize. Notice
I don't say predict that Jupiter's journey through cancer given
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this current waxing square of Jupiter and cancer to Saturn
and Ares as part of the current Jupiter Saturn cycle
I mentioned already, this is a waxing square since the
Jupiter Saturn synotic cycle began in December of twenty twenty.
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This is called the opening Square, which is also known
as the crisis in action Square. No, the crisis and
Consciousness Square will represent the sensitization of quote unquote the
people to the restrictions placed upon not only them but
those they nurture, family, friends, colleagues, co workers, community members,
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et cetera by authorities like the government, and that this
energy will remain in play from now until the King
of the Gods enters Leo on June thirtieth of twenty
twenty six. So again, triggered by the intrusive nature of
the federal Homeland Security Departments, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency
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upon those they decide look like illegal immigrants and whom
they throw into jail with no due process, this kind
of pushback would seem to warrant a long term effort,
both in the courts and in the streets. Now, there's
also an interesting topic. I mean, obviously I've mentioned before,
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Jupiter as the ruler of the ninth House, also represents
many different archetypes. It's related to law, it's related to
higher education, it's related to immigration, it's related to religion,
it's related to the media. So you know, all of
these things. If we're looking at Jupiter as an expanse
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of energy, naturally, are intension with Saturn in aries and
Saturn in erees is like, I don't know, I guess
it's kind of like I mean, I've said before, this
is a very frustrating kind of energy because Aries is
by Mars and says Saturn is slow and cautious and
restrictive and boundaried and afraid of the future and likes
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to hang back into tradition because that's the way it
was always done, and in as Areas wants to move ahead.
Airs like let's go, let's run, let's run the race,
let's win, let's go, let's go, and Saturn's like, well,
I don't know, right. So the energy of Saturn as
it moves through Mars world areas is inherently frustrated. And
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I've mentioned before, at least on a personal level, right,
it can cause depression. So the antidote to that is
hard work. But in this context of what's going on
in America right now, Jupiter and cancer, the sensitivity of
the people is pitted against the frustration they feel because
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of the saturns. The squared to Saturn and Arees so
it's like, Okay, if you're going to Saturn deem yourself
the authority figure and the ruler in Mars of the military,
and you're going to take actions against us, we are
going to I guess more intuitively, I was gonna say instinctively,
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but that's really a Mars energy cancer is intuitive. Right,
We're gonna do what we intoit to be the right thing.
And as everybody in positions of power has been cautioning
people who are going to go out onto the streets
on No King's Day, which is June fourteenth, which is
obviously the same day as Donald Trump's military parade birthday celebration,
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where he mimics a dictator's energy that you must protest peacefully. Right,
they're putting out advice. You know, if ice approaches, you
sit down, you know, start singing, don't you know, carry
any arms or weapons, all those kinds of things. And
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that's just common sense, right. But there's also another interesting topic.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
The thing is that this Jupiter soundarn is so conjoined
with the Mars Uranus and that's what's been going on
for the past week, and how it will manifest when
these two perfect, especially when the energies are at their height.
I mentioned this last week on June fourteenth, the day
before they both perfect within hours of each other on
June fifteenth. There really is no telling whether it will
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get worse or whether the worst will happen before they exact,
and the fear is that that could be on today
and tomorrow. But there's another interesting topic that I believe
should be mentioned that's related to this cardinal square. And
remember cardinal energy is initiative and includes the cardinal signs
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aries cancer, Libra, and Capricorn. And that's related to mythology
and the fact that this square represents the tension between
the old and the nude, between the young and the
old and the mature. So in Greek mythology, Saturn ruled
for a long time. But Saturn, a Titan who was
the child of Urdernos, the sky god and Gaya, the
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earth mother, was hidden away by his mother because Udernos
was so disgusted at the form of his children, the
physical form, that he stuffed them back into Gaya's womb,
essentially not allowing them to be born. But Saturn was saved,
you know, spirited away. He grew up, and he came
back to avenge his brothers and sisters by castrating Urinos
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and tossing his genitals into the sea, upon which sprang
up Aphrodite, known in modern day astrology as Venus, the
goddess of beauty of love. But that part is another story.
So what happens is that Saturn, then, having castrated his father,
rules over what's known as the Golden Era, and it's
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not until he starts having children with his wife Raya
that he becomes fearful that one of them might overthrow
him someday, just as he did his father. Hence, there's
a famous painting I don't remember by whom, but of
Saturn literally trying to eat one of his children. His
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wife Reya, however, hides away Jupiter, who's known as Zeus
in Greek mythology, and he grows up to dethrone his father,
just as Saturn suspected he might, and becomes the king
of the gods and the head of Mount Olympus, relegating
Saturn to I think he's relegated to Hades, but I'm
not positive about that the underworld. But anyway, you know,
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he's he's rendered impotent like he did to his father.
So when we think about this more symbolically, what we
see is that Jupiter and Saturn aspects have to do
with freeing us from the resistance to birth something new.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Right. Clearly, Jupiter's the.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Child here and Saturn the father or authority figure, So
nature tells us that one must always eventually make way
for the other, especially since Saturn is known as both
father time and as the symbol of maturity. He's got
to wise up at some point to his own mortality
and what kind of legacy he wants to leave the
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world in terms of what he's birthed, both literally and metaphorically. Now,
a few weeks ago, I spoke about how the Jupiter
Saturn conjunction, which happened last on December thirty first of
twenty twenty, is known astrologically as the Great Mutation, and
that this synotic cycle from conjunction to the next conjunction
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of these two planets changes element only once every only
once every two hundred years. The synotic cycle repeats every
twenty years. But what's interesting here, given this mythology around
Jupiter and Saturn, is that a topic of discussion currently
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within the Democratic Party is the replacement replacement of long
term older some geriatric Democrats in Congress with newer, younger ones.
And this is something that David Hogg, one of the Parkland,
Florida High School survivors of the massacre there, has started
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an organization to do to primary longer term Democrats by
supporting younger ones. Now, up until now that's been verboten
under an unwritten law or rule that Seniority always rules.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
So this particular.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Waxing square of Jupiter Saturn highlights this conflict or dilemma,
or however one wants to think of it. Now, in
all honesty, it's only fair also to mention how the
current Trump administration has also done that by promoting people
like you who are unqualified for their positions into major positions.
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I mean Elons obviously is the biggest example, having no
political or governmental experience, he's now, you know, responsible for
what will become the deaths of millions of people over time.
We discussed that last week or the week before too,
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so I'm not going to go into that in detail,
but in other words, this is a conflict that's becoming
more prominent as we reach the first quarter. Waxing square
of Jupiter Disaturn and On one hand, you can't blame
the Democrats and others who support respecting seniority among elected
and appointed officials based on their experience, their maturity, and
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their knowledge, just as you can't blame those who are
against the appointment of inexperienced, sometimes younger, you know, less
mature people to positions for which they are quite completely unqualified.
But there has to be a middle librin ground here, right.
It's like a asking how many people would like to
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replace Senator Bernie Sanders now I think he's eighty three
years old with someone younger, just because of his age.
On the other hand, it was clearly something that should
have happened with Dianne Feinstein, who was a Senator from
California who was showing signs of dementius, Republican Senator Chuck
Grassley who's in his nineties, and a good number of
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others who'd been too long in power. There was another
senator I think it was a reper senator I can't
their name escapes me right now, who also just gave
as a Republican I'm sorry, a Democrat who gave some
sort of speech recently where she just really like showed
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a cognitive decline. And I pointed out last week of
the week before too, how President Biden's which I mentioned
in you know, in this podcast, how his performance twenty
four during the primaries.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
And the debates and all that.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Were, you know, was a symbol of his.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
In cognitive decline.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Right, So this has been going on because we have
and I don't have the statistics in front of me,
but we have what I've read is the most geriatric
congress like in history. Now, the future will certainly belong
to the young. We know that Jupiter Square centern knows
that this is not in dispute because the older ones
will always die off. The question to me is how
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long will it take for the millennial and Generation Z
people to gain political control of this nation's government and
will it come soon enough, meaning before it's too late.
Now it's interesting too, I just found this quote and
I thought it was somewhat relevant to this topic. But
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it's really more about how people can use their energies
to pro protest now and what would be effective versus
what is ineffective, because you again, some of the younger
people might be more of the hotheads who are going
out in the street to protest and doing so in
ways that attract more violence to them and thus negate
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the purpose of their protesting. So Brian Klass, who authored
a book called Fluke, Chance, Chaos and Why Everything We
Do Matters, and an expert in democratic movements, recently wrote
quote democracy doesn't get saved one post at a time.
Authoritarians are delighted when their opponents only channel their anger
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into typed outrage that generates dopamine through clicks from like
minded partisans. Elon Musk will be constrained far more by
test la boycotts and the prospect of plummeting sales figures
than by.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Mean memes, which I think we've already seen. He continues.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Donald Trump hates bad optics, and mass protests are terrible
optics for a wanna be despot who falsely claims a
landslide popular mandate. And he continues, it's when we do
the same here, which is happening already, and the unconstituted
Oh no, this is my words, actually, I think, and
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the unconstitutional order is given to shoot protesters, that we
will come to the test, and when those shots are fired,
the pushback will be the first in a new revolutionary
war against a tyrant, which is exactly what opened the
door to the ultimate formation of our democratic nation to
begin with. So let's hope it ends up the same
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way again. But for now, the worst it gets, the
recognition that we'll have to fight for our constitution to prevail,
will have to morph into actions that we take to
proactively save it. But just to go back to the
topic of Jupiter Saturn and the aging out of our
representation tips or elected officials, if say, we make it
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to the point where the current US government becomes so
severely decimated, and I'm talking about the fact and not
only the repercussions from the DOGE cuts and all of
this willy nilly stuff that you know, there was a
whistleblower an article this week by a whistleblower who worked
with DOGE who no longer is there, who was saying
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was let go because he gave some interview where he
said that he didn't see mismanagement, mismanagement, waste, fraud, and
abuse at all in the work he was doing with
with with whatever portion of the DOGE oversight was he
was responsible for, you know which agency or whatever cabinet department.
I'm not sure, but you know, that's a that's a
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matter I think we're going to be getting into when
you're in a Center's Gemini, because I think we're talking AI.
We're talking deep fakes, we're talking about algorithms, we're talking
about you know, uh, data that is not confirmed or factual,
all these stories that AI makes up when you you know,
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try to use it to resource something.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
But anyway, that's for another time. We'll get into that soon.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
But anyway, so when I say, you know, if and
when the government becomes so severely decimated, I mean because
of those actions and also the actions of the people
who are in charge now, who are part of Donald
Trump's clown car. They're not all from his first administration,
because the responsible people there have all either were tossed
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out by him or they vacated.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
But you know, we keep hearing on the news over
and over again how Mark Milly wouldn't let Trump use
the federal armed forces against protesters and the George Floyd
protests in twenty twenty and so on and so forth.
And now there's no one there to stand guard against that.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
There's no guard rails anymore.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
So I'm talking about if and when the repercussions of
what's going on by these people who have no idea
what they're doing, because they're all just Trump sycophants. Pam Bondi,
the Attorney General, Christy Nome, the Homeland Security Secretary, Michael
Mike Johnson, the Speaker or GOP Speaker of Majority, Speaker
of the House who called for Governor Newsom of California
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when Governor Newsom, and I highly recommend you listen. Yesterday's
podcast Countdown podcast by Keith Olberman discussed Actually he played
the full eight minute recording of Gavin Newsom's remarks and
lauded him for being the first one to stand up
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against Donald Trump, which he called the efet Moment. But
if you listen to his words, I highly recommend it. Also,
I found out on Keith Olberman's Monday podcast, which would
have been what the ninth, I think he did two
three this week, so it was Monday or Tuesday, but
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I think it was Monday. He was talking about how
Governor Newsom, he was talking about the inequity between how
much the Blue states contribute in taxes to the federal
government and how much the red states need those moneies,
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and so Newsom I think had alluded to the fact
that if the federal government under Trump is going to
stop allowing them federal monies, which what they've been doing
all along for many different functions, including things like FEMA
when you have a natural disaster, that California would simply
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withhold its federal government taxes, and that, according to Keith Oberman,
that totals eighty billion dollars of surplus for the federal
government that they then used to disperse along with other
Blue states tax federal tax money. New York, Illinois, I
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think Minnesota is one of them.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
But you know the big.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Democratic or blue states that they.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
They would I mean, think about it. This is like
the Civil war here.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
In the US, right If you stop putting money into
the federal coffers, all those red states will start to
become poorer than they are. And a lot of the
Red states Mississippi and Alabama and Tennessee and a lot
of them are in the South, but that's not all
of them. That they get twenty twenty five thirty thirty
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five percent of their annual monies from the federal government.
So it's a very interesting kind of way to wage
a civil war on a monetary level that has nothing
to do with weapons and fighting on the ground. But anyway,
just to go back to the Jupiter soundern thing and
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talking about the younger generations, I would just say that
if we make it again to the point where the
current US government becomes so severely decimated in the federal government,
yet it's still possible for us to hold free and
fair elections in twenty twenty twenty twenty eight before we
get to that waxing first quarter progressed lunar new moon
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square in the sibling chart, and we do elect those
of the younger generations, then we can foresee them changing
the face of our current geriatric Congress into a more
forward thinking one. And if we follow this notion to
its logical conclusion, we might see that what's been destroyed
by the older generations in power has left a vacuum
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that might more easily be filled in the future. And
here I'm talking about things that the younger generation cares about,
like gun control, climate change, the height of you know,
women's rights based on this now current misogyny, and again
the empathy for all humans, which would destroy the evil
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nature of racism. And that's to name a few So
if we've gotten to the point where lobbyists and religious
fundamentalists and just plain misogynists, women haters, and bigots have
ground our government to a halt, but a new generation
succeeds in commanding power, then we have a chance to
rebuild from the ground up. And that's where Pluto in
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Aquarius and the US Pluto return come into play, because
once everything has been annihilated, then you can rebirth. Right,
something has to die for something new to be reborn.
All right, anyway, I'm out of time. Thank you for
listening to me. Hope hasn't been too much babbling and
that it all makes sense. But again, if you ever
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have any comments or questions about anything said here, feel
free to email me. And other than that, thank you
for joining me today. I hope you found the information
presented here helpful as you continue your karmaic evolution in
this lifetime. Please be sure to join me next week
on June twenty first. We'll talk about the summer solstice,
when the sun enters cancer on the twenty first, and
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other things. We'll look back at what actually did happen
on June fourteenth and fifteenth and after that and till
then I will see you next week, and may your
soul's journey be filled with karmaic healing and the joy
of greater consciousness.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
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I always like to say, growth and consciousness has never
been so easy or so affordable.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
All right, so let's start off.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This week since we just experienced a couple days ago,
the June eleventh Sagittarius full moon, which with the Sagittarius
moon opposing the Gemini sun, cautioned us to release our
short time myopic opinions and perspectives and the tactics we
used based on those opinions and perspectives, and to trade
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them in for a greater understanding of the overall meaning
of the bigger, long term picture Gemini Sun's energy. As
I've mentioned before, Gemini as an archetype is much more
concerned with local information and near neighborhood stuff, and that
can in its lowest form be considered superficial gossip all
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the way to dis and misinformation, to propaganda and conspiracy theories,
and Sagittarius, which is ruled by the planet Jupiter, is
more about higher consciousness in terms of understanding what is
the overall meaning of our lives. So, also at this
particular lunation, we had the Sagittarius moon and the Gemini
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sun in square to both the mean and the true
transiting nodal axes. Right, I've mentioned before the difference between
the two of them. I'm not going to go into
it now, but suffice it to say that they run
pretty close together. And so for this our purposes now
there's not a lot of time between exactness.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Celeste Teel, the nostrologer who wrote the book The Lunar
Nodes Discover Your Soul's Karmic Mission, points out that this
energy of the Sun and the moon, and she points
out the energy of the transit moon square the nodal
axis is similar to the transiting moon over the south node,
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and she writes that it can cause quote increased sensitivity
of change in temperament. Domestic matters are under increased focus,
and it's more likely that you play the part of
the mother or the nurturer for someone else. Female interests
and health issues are highlighted.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Of course, you know this is written more in terms
of a personal chart, but I don't think it takes
much to extrapolate out into the collective right, because this
is a full moon that the whole world is experiencing,
or at least the whole world that follows Western I
reached the portion of the world that follows Western tropical astrology.
As for the sun squaring the nodal access, Teel notes
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this quote things take a discouraging turn, and there are
compromises to make others question your credentials. Maybe on appreciative
of your efforts, and the ego is injured, this is
the time to make adjustments to your methods, using the
present circumstances as a guide to modifications needed. Efforts may
feel like an energy drain. Now, let's understand this in
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light of what's been going on recently, especially since this
lunation also had Mars and Leo waxing toward an exact
square to Uranus and Taurus and Jupiter and Cancer waxing
toward its exact square to Saturn and Ares, which will
both perfect on June fifteenth, Meaning these energies are strong
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getting stronger day by day, right, And the symbolic nature
of this lunation's square to the transitting nodal axis, and
that's that the moon in mundane astrology represents the people
and the Sun the ruler, and their opposition tells us
that they are not in alignment. And the way we
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look at it psychologically is that the Moon is the emotions,
the Moon is the heart, and the Sun is the
ego and the empirically oriented, rational logical mind.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So hence these.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Two are in need of integration, which is what happens
with all astrological oppositions, and what we're seeing now given
recent events, since the protests began in Los Angeles on Friday,
June sixth, they're now a week old, and this is
that this opposition is really between the archetypal mother and father.
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So since Mercury and Jupiter entered sensitive Moon ruled cancer
on June eighth and ninth, respectively, we the people have
been driven out into the streets by our nurturing instincts
to protect both ourselves and others, because we may feel
as though the whole world is our family based on
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the uncompromising nature of the father slash leader. And why well,
that's easy, right, because the Sun and Gemini has been
using tactics like usurping California Governor Gavin Newsom's authority to
call in the California National Guard and then the Federal Marines,
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which are part of the United States Army or armed forces.
So he has done so to curtail, restrict, block, etc.
The rights of quote unquote the people to protest peacefully
under the Constitution's First Amendment. And that is part and
parcel of the currently waxing energies of both mars Uranus
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and the Jupiter Saturn squares, which again won't exact until
June fifteenth. Now, the recent Sagittarius full moon implored us
during its way. It implores us now during its waning
lunar cycle phase to release shortsighted perspectives in favor of
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the overall meaning of how we got to these current events.
And that overall meaning revolves around several astrological cycles. Now,
the biggest of which, at least for here in the US, is,
of course, the already triggered Pluto return, which began in earnest.
I believe the year before transiting, Pluto perfected its exact
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conjunction to the US sibly charts Natal Pluto. Now, I
was on Facebook recently and a pretty well known astrologer
had a thread going there, and in it he just
sort of referenced the Pluto return, and he noted that
some astrologers think, because it happened back on February twentieth
of twenty twenty two, that is already over. And I've
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said numerous times, and I'll say here again, how ridiculous
I think that kind of an assumption is, Because anyone
who studies astrology seriously understands the astrology is the study
of cycles, and that cycles don't just happen, you know,
end as soon as the planet touches the other planet
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by aspect, whether it's conjunction or any other of the aspects.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That we use or know of. And so I take
issue with that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's got the hairs on the back of my neck
standing up a little, because you know, I've been talking
about the Pluto return for weeks and weeks and months now,
and it's just so such a big energy looming over
everything that's happening in the United States for the past
few years. That is just incredible to me that someone
would think, oh, that transit happened already and now the
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energies are gone. I'm like, okay, whatever, anyway, moving along.
That's my pet peeve for the day. So I'm gonna
mention this again, and I'm gonna mention it a lot,
and I'm sorry if it bores you, but I hope
to make some contextual remarks that might make more sense
to you about why.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So again.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The exact Pluto return conjunction took place at twenty seven
degrees and thirty three minutes of Pluto Capricorn in the US.
Sibley second house of of its chart on February twentieth
of twenty twenty two. And I've posited before that the
energies of this Pluto return again as I just said
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began the year before, as transiting Pluto was approaching Natal
Pluto on January sixth of twenty twenty one, which was
the day of the Capital insurrection by supporters of those
who believed that the twenty twenty US presidential election was
stolen from Donald Trump. And on that day, January sixth,
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twenty twenty one, we can see that transiting Pluto was
actually at twenty four degrees in twenty two minutes of
Capricorn into our second house of vows. Mind you, the
natal is twenty seven thirty three, so it was a
few degrees away, but it was almost exact opposite to
the US natal eighth house Mercury at twenty four degrees
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and eleven minutes of cancer. So transiting Pluto on January
sixth was at twenty four to twenty two, opposing the
Natal Mercury at twenty four to eleven.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's pretty tight. Thus the Pluto.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Transit triggered the Natal Mercury Pluto opposition from the eighth
to the twenty second, which is from twenty four twenty
one to twenty seven thirty three right, and which translates
into the potential for communicating to quote, coerce opinions and thinking,
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rather than to inform, as astrologer Rob Hand describes his
energy in his book Planets in Transit, Hand further cautions
the avoidance of quote fanatical ideas, that is, opinions that
you believe in absolutely and consider worthy of forcing on others.
Under this transit you become you can become totally possessed
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by convictions that have very little meaning but that you
insist on forcing on others. With this transit, there is
no point in asking for conflict. It will probably come anyway.
Hand concludes. Now, the progressed moon in the US sibly
chart in the second house was at two degrees and
thirty seven minutes of Aquarius, and quincunks to the US
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is natal seventh house Venus at three degrees and six
minutes of cancer. That is, you know, thirty one minutes
apart right on the day of the Capitol riot, and
the progressed moon moved by March of twenty twenty one
to quincunks. Our Natal seventh House, five degree fifty six
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Cancer Jupiter. It then exact conjoined the US I'm sorry,
not conjoined. It then exact. Oh yeah, no, it exact
conjoined the US natal second house seven degrees and thirty
five minute Aquarius south Node by May sixteen of twenty
twenty one. Meanwhile, transiting Neptune was in the US third
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House square to the US Natal seventh House Mars at
twenty one degrees in twenty twenty minutes twenty two minutes
of Gemini, and opposing our natal ninth house Neptune at
twenty two degrees twenty five minutes of Virgo by March
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I'm sorry, May twenty twenty one. So it's interesting to
note that the House of Representatives' investigation into January sixth
commenced with a public hearing on July twenty seventh of
twenty twenty one, marking how we waxed toward adjusting how
the people progressed Moon in Aquarius might reconcile or understand
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Third House what was happening on January sixth, with the
deeper meaning of the natal us cancer Sun's protective nature
of its partnership with its US citizenry In addition, the
progressed moon also quincunks the natal seventh house, thirteen degree
nineteen minute cancer US sun exact on October eleventh of
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twenty twenty one. So again, to me, this period marked
the beginning of the US Pluto return. Now, I've already
discussed how this essentially mirrors the fact that the first
shots were fired in the US Revolutionary War and conquered
in Lexington, Massachusetts, on April nineteenth of seventeen seventy five,
basically a year before the US Declaration of Independence was
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signed on July fourth of seventeen seventy six. And that
is where this sibly chart that I use comes from.
July fourth, seventeen seventy six at five I think it's
five eleven or five ten pm in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania for
those who don't know, and four year information. On April
nineteenth of seventeen seventy five, transiting Pluto was at twenty
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six degrees and forty one minutes, within a degree of
what became the US Natal Pluto at twenty seven degrees
thirty three minutes of capricorn on July fourth, seventeen seventy six. Now,
in addition, on April nineteenth of seventeen seventy five, transiting
Mars was at twenty six Leo, just inside of what
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became the tenth house of the Sibley chart, opposite the
goddess of chaos and discord Eiris at twenty six Aquarius
in the third house, now transiting Saturn at three Libre,
was also then in the tenth house of the would
be Sibley US birth chart in square to its natal
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three degree Venus and five degree Jupiter conjunction and Cancer
in the seventh house. So it's interesting that now we
have a Jupiter Saturn square at this time. And finally
Natal Chirn in Aries in the fourth house was within
one minute of a square to the seventh house thirteen
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nineteen cancer Sun while transmitting Juno, the archetype of the
wife or the partner was in Cancer in the eighth house,
within a degree of opposition to the natal Pluto and Capricorn.
And this was the day of the shot heard or
what became the Sibley or the US birth chart Natal Pluto.
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This was the day of the quote shot heard around
the world that started the US Revolutionary War by the
colonies to free themselves from the tyranny of the rule
by a British king. Well, all right, so that about
sums up January sixth, at least in hindsight, don't you think?
I mean the fact that the US has a Natal
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Mercury Pluto opposition and given the eighth to second house
placement of this aspect to me, it represent since this
nation's obsession with capitalism, Since the second house is material
resources and finances and the eighth house is shared resources.
It's also trust, right, because again I think I said
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this last week, you don't share your resources with those
who don't trust unless you know you're particularly naive, which,
of course does happen.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
We'll get into that later.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
But that the US likes to control both its domestic
and international policies through balancing these both. Right, there are
resources and shared resources is the optimal view of America.
But that this may become out of balance, as it
seems is happening now is the cautionary tale of this aspect.
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So though although it took another year the for transiting
Pluto to conjoin its Natal position in February of twenty
twenty two, from January sixth of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
The wheels for that deep stop.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
The Steel Lie propagated by sore loser Donald Trump, one
that had the crowd chanting hang Mike Pence and searching
through the halls of the Capitol Building for Democratic Speaker
of the House Nancy Pelosi, clearly with mal intent, were
set in motion at least a year before. So The
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Big Lie, which led to the Capital Insurrection on January sixth,
marks the beginning of this Neptunian period of lies, propaganda,
dis and misinformation reaching the millions, compromising Donald Trump's base.
By the time we reached the progressed lunar new moon
at nineteen degrees in sixteen minutes of Pisces in the
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US's Third House of Communication on March twenty fifth, twenty
twenty four, where the progressed sun had been in Pisces
since November two thousand and four, and the progressed moon
had entered into Pisces on December sixth of twenty twenty two,
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the lie was well on its way to being believed
by millions of people, and this was further solidified by
May tenth of twenty twenty four, when the progressed moon
in Pisse's exact squared natal Mars in the seventh and
opposed Natal Neptune in the US Ninth House on June
fifth of twenty twenty four. The Pisces progressed moon then
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began to separate from its opposition to natal Neptune but
exact opposed the US progressed Neptune on August twenty sixth,
twenty twenty four. Now, let's remember that this was the
period during which then President Joe Biden's disastrous presidential debate
with Donald Trump on June twenty seventh of twenty twenty
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four and his decision to drop out of the race
on July twenty first of twenty twenty four occurred.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Hence, the progressed.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Lunar new moon in Pisce's phase in the Third House
planted the seed of the then eighty one year old
president's cognitive dissolution and his subsequent disappearance from political power
by November twenty twenty four's presidential election. So the question
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now is what seed was planted On March twenty fifth
of twenty twenty four, a progressed a Pisces progressed lunar
new moon in the Third House. That puts the focus
on whether or not Neptune ruled Pisces is going to
be about developing greater empathy for our pharaoh fellow humans
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or about believing lies about them. So, in other words,
Neptune's Pisces is empathic, right, And the reason why it's
related to empathy is because it can feel other people's emotions.
So it feels grief, it feels emotional or spiritual pain,
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it feels anguish and anxiety.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But given what's occurred since then, and you know, the
challenge is for us to get there, right because if
the seed was planted, it hasn't fully grown yet. So
given what's occurred since then, over this past year, plus
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the election as president of an habitual liar, and this narcissist,
a power hungry exaggerator wanna be dictator, and yes I
am biased, we would have to hope that it's about
how this beginning will end up with a much more
all humans are created equal understanding as the ending. For now, however,
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I believe we are in the early stages of this
progressed lunar new moon fa in Pisces in the US
third House, which denotes a lot of Neptunian confusion, illusion,
and delusion, particularly around the archetypes presented by the Third House.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That is to say, do we believe.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Everything we hear read communication about our families, friends, neighborhood,
local community, and businesses, et cetera, including schools, these are
all Geminian archetypes. Or do we source this information determined
to determine if it's factual? Or do we source this
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information to determine from where it came i e. From
someone or a party with an ulterior motive or a
grander plan, whether that plan is part of a larger
agenda which possibly might not benefit us. In any case,
it's clear at this point that this country has returned
now to a state that does not present to us
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information that is factually true, and that some here swallow
these lies or exaggerations or distortions, if not outright propaganda
or conspiracy theories, hook line and sinker. Without seeking out
verification from authenticated sources, It's likely we won't know the
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direction of this progressed lunar New Moon's energies will take
until circa November fifth of twenty thirty, when the US
reaches its first quarter progressed Lunar crisis in action Square
of the seventh house progressed Moon, that's where it will
be at that time, at twenty six degrees and one
minute of Gemini to the third house progressed Sun in
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Pisces at twenty six degrees and one minute and guess what.
Oh look, November fifth, twenty thirty is the day of
the US mid term elections following the November seventh, twenty
twenty eight US presidential election. Now, though I'm tempted, there's
no sense in looking at either chart right now, since
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so much can happen between now and then, especially since
Uranus will be entering Gemini for the next seven years
on July seventh of this year, only about a month
away or less, and we have a long way to
go to see what more. Pluto and Aquarius, the exact
Saturn Neptune conjunction that will conjoin in February of twenty
twenty six, and the long term cycles including the Saturn
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Pluto cycle that started in twenty twenty and the Jupiter.
I mean, we're coming up to the waxing opening square
of the Jupiter Saturn cycle. But those, among other things,
what these will bring us. So meanwhile, with that as
our backdrop, combined with the Pluto returns ongoing energies. We
can add that as we wax toward the upcoming June
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fifteenth Mars Uranus and Jupiter Saturn squares that transiting Mars
yesterday on June twelfth, exact Quincunk's the us natal Pluto
from twenty seven to thirty three Leo to twenty seven
thirty three Capricorn. That means an adjustment is necessary or
is being made, yes, but also that this adjustment may
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involve violence. And this would fit the bill of the
waxing energies of the Mars Uranus upcoming square, which speaks
of potential sudden violence. Now we've already seen this, right.
I am not going to go into the details or
all the details of what's been happening in LA, because
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it's been going on since January sixth.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Then one of the things that I would.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Say is for those who believe that aspects are only
influential when they exact, this is definitely not true, or
especially not true in my professional experience or in looking
at aspects as they're waxing in my chart.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Now. You know.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Renowned astrologer Michael Luton, he used to say that some
people will feel a Pluto transit coming ten degrees away,
and another one he'll be doing their chart after the
Pluto transit just finished, and you know, are separating and
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they're like, huh, like they didn't recognize anything. So some
of us are more sensitive than others to astrological energy
than to particular astrological energy. So let me leave it there.
But obviously, in terms of the actual manifestations Mars and Leo,
Mars action, proactivity, ambition, motivation often represents the warrior, the
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military in the sign ruled by the Sun, which is Leo,
which is often connotated with a leader with royalty or
you know somebody who's powerful. Right, Squaring Uranus and Taurus,
which is about changed values, right, I was going to
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go into a whole riff, but I've already talked about.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
This many times already.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Urinus when it entered Taurus in May of twenty eighteen,
within two years we had we had worldwide change in values,
especially about relationships with which Venus's Taurus represents. Because of
the pandemic, and because that limited our our ability to
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see and hug and kiss and touch the people we
loved if we were separated from them, by you know, distance,
or many people who had elderly parents or relatives in
assisted living, or who have chill ldren and grandchildren who
live far away, et cetera. There are other things, and
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you know that I spoke of before. But soon the
dialogue is going to be all about Uranus entering Gemini, which,
as I said, happens on July seventh, so not too
distant future.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But you know, these kinds of issues that have been
going on in LA I expect that everybody's heard all
the news by now and knows all the facts. So
I'm not going to go into all of that other
than to say that under the Pluto return, you know,
we're in the recurrence of the American Revolutionary War all
right now. Yesterday, and I'm recording this just after it happened.
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US Senator Alex Padia, a Democrat from California, quote, was
forced to the floor, handcuffed, and removed by federal agents
after interrupting a news conference by the Homeland Security Secretary
Christine Gnome on Thursday in Los Angeles. According to The
New York Times, quote, it was the latest sign of
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the rising political tensions as authorities across the country geared
up for more demonstrations and California. In California and the
Trump administration faced off in a hearing in federal court,
and the articles The Times goes on. Democratic politicians as
well as some Republicans in California and Washington reacted with
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outrage to the video of the treatment of and by
federal agents. The Secretary Christy Nome was speaking about federal
immigration enforcement efforts in the city when mister Padilla raised
his voice to say that he had questions, prompting his removal,
even as he identified himself. Quote, this is what a
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dictatorship looks like. This is what happens when one person
tries to grab all the power, Senator Chris van Holland
of Maryland said, as Democrats continued to make speeches on
the Senate floor to express outrage over Senator Padilla's treatment.
And the video is easy to see, and you can
hear him identifying himself, and you can watch them push
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him to.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
The floor, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
But by the way, also according to The New York Times,
and again I quote Senator Alex Padia of California, the
son of Mexican immigrants, grew up in the San Fernando
Valley as a rule following overachiever who was nonetheless often
targeted as a bad kid because of his brown skin.
Growing up, mister Padilla played baseball and regularly attended church
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with his parents, one a short order cook and the
other a housecleaner. He eventually beat the system by getting
into the Massachusets in Massachusetts Institute of Technology end quote. This,
of course, follows the power grab by President Trump when
he usurped California Governor Gavin Newsom's authority to call in
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the National Guard to quell protests happening in and around
LA since June sixth, based on the false assumption that
the LAPD Los Angeles Police Department could not handle the
mostly peaceful but you know, with fairly limited violence that occurred.
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Some protesters set a few cars on fire and another
one through a Molotov cocktail. Originally, anyway, you know, by tomorrow,
who knows what the story will be. But the whole
point is that, as everybody should know by now, the
President went over the governor's head to activate the national
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California National Guard and then called in the Marines. So
the numbers and what they're doing and all of that,
and how many people have been arrested and how many
people have been let go, that's all in you know,
public domain.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Again.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
This is part of how, in my opinion, the US
Pluto return has brought us to the point where people
protesting in the streets under their First Amendment right freedom
of speech against tyrannical governmental authorities like ICE, the California
National Guard, and the Marines, all called in by President
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Trump may may well mark the beginning of the recurrence
of the American Revolution. And that's because I believe that
this country is inched closer to a dictatorial military takeover
by the US government as we've been waxing toward this
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Mars Uranus and Jupiter Saturn square, and the other thing
that's been happening is well, let me say a few
things about those squares. I would posit or hypothesize. Notice
I don't say predict that Jupiter's journey through cancer given
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this current waxing square of Jupiter and cancer to Saturn
and Ares as part of the current Jupiter Saturn cycle
I mentioned already, this is a waxing square since the
Jupiter Saturn synotic cycle began in December of twenty twenty.
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This is called the opening Square, which is also known
as the crisis in action Square. No, the crisis and
Consciousness Square will represent the sensitization of quote unquote the
people to the restrictions placed upon not only them but
those they nurture, family, friends, colleagues, co workers, community members,
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et cetera by authorities like the government, and that this
energy will remain in play from now until the King
of the Gods enters Leo on June thirtieth of twenty
twenty six. So again, triggered by the intrusive nature of
the federal Homeland Security Departments, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency
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upon those they decide look like illegal immigrants and whom
they throw into jail with no due process, this kind
of pushback would seem to warrant a long term effort,
both in the courts and in the streets. Now, there's
also an interesting topic. I mean, obviously I've mentioned before,
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Jupiter as the ruler of the ninth House, also represents
many different archetypes. It's related to law, it's related to
higher education, it's related to immigration, it's related to religion,
it's related to the media. So you know, all of
these things. If we're looking at Jupiter as an expanse
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of energy, naturally, are intension with Saturn in aries and
Saturn in erees is like, I don't know, I guess
it's kind of like I mean, I've said before, this
is a very frustrating kind of energy because Aries is
by Mars and says Saturn is slow and cautious and
restrictive and boundaried and afraid of the future and likes
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to hang back into tradition because that's the way it
was always done, and in as Areas wants to move ahead.
Airs like let's go, let's run, let's run the race,
let's win, let's go, let's go, and Saturn's like, well,
I don't know, right. So the energy of Saturn as
it moves through Mars world areas is inherently frustrated. And
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I've mentioned before, at least on a personal level, right,
it can cause depression. So the antidote to that is
hard work. But in this context of what's going on
in America right now, Jupiter and cancer, the sensitivity of
the people is pitted against the frustration they feel because
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of the saturns. The squared to Saturn and Arees so
it's like, Okay, if you're going to Saturn deem yourself
the authority figure and the ruler in Mars of the military,
and you're going to take actions against us, we are
going to I guess more intuitively, I was gonna say instinctively,
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but that's really a Mars energy cancer is intuitive. Right,
We're gonna do what we intoit to be the right thing.
And as everybody in positions of power has been cautioning
people who are going to go out onto the streets
on No King's Day, which is June fourteenth, which is
obviously the same day as Donald Trump's military parade birthday celebration,
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where he mimics a dictator's energy that you must protest peacefully. Right,
they're putting out advice. You know, if ice approaches, you
sit down, you know, start singing, don't you know, carry
any arms or weapons, all those kinds of things. And
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that's just common sense, right. But there's also another interesting topic.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
The thing is that this Jupiter soundarn is so conjoined
with the Mars Uranus and that's what's been going on
for the past week, and how it will manifest when
these two perfect, especially when the energies are at their height.
I mentioned this last week on June fourteenth, the day
before they both perfect within hours of each other on
June fifteenth. There really is no telling whether it will
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get worse or whether the worst will happen before they exact,
and the fear is that that could be on today
and tomorrow. But there's another interesting topic that I believe
should be mentioned that's related to this cardinal square. And
remember cardinal energy is initiative and includes the cardinal signs
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aries cancer, Libra, and Capricorn. And that's related to mythology
and the fact that this square represents the tension between
the old and the nude, between the young and the
old and the mature. So in Greek mythology, Saturn ruled
for a long time. But Saturn, a Titan who was
the child of Urdernos, the sky god and Gaya, the
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earth mother, was hidden away by his mother because Udernos
was so disgusted at the form of his children, the
physical form, that he stuffed them back into Gaya's womb,
essentially not allowing them to be born. But Saturn was saved,
you know, spirited away. He grew up, and he came
back to avenge his brothers and sisters by castrating Urinos
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and tossing his genitals into the sea, upon which sprang
up Aphrodite, known in modern day astrology as Venus, the
goddess of beauty of love. But that part is another story.
So what happens is that Saturn, then, having castrated his father,
rules over what's known as the Golden Era, and it's
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not until he starts having children with his wife Raya
that he becomes fearful that one of them might overthrow
him someday, just as he did his father. Hence, there's
a famous painting I don't remember by whom, but of
Saturn literally trying to eat one of his children. His
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wife Reya, however, hides away Jupiter, who's known as Zeus
in Greek mythology, and he grows up to dethrone his father,
just as Saturn suspected he might, and becomes the king
of the gods and the head of Mount Olympus, relegating
Saturn to I think he's relegated to Hades, but I'm
not positive about that the underworld. But anyway, you know,
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he's he's rendered impotent like he did to his father.
So when we think about this more symbolically, what we
see is that Jupiter and Saturn aspects have to do
with freeing us from the resistance to birth something new.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Right. Clearly, Jupiter's the.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Child here and Saturn the father or authority figure, So
nature tells us that one must always eventually make way
for the other, especially since Saturn is known as both
father time and as the symbol of maturity. He's got
to wise up at some point to his own mortality
and what kind of legacy he wants to leave the
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world in terms of what he's birthed, both literally and metaphorically. Now,
a few weeks ago, I spoke about how the Jupiter
Saturn conjunction, which happened last on December thirty first of
twenty twenty, is known astrologically as the Great Mutation, and
that this synotic cycle from conjunction to the next conjunction
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of these two planets changes element only once every only
once every two hundred years. The synotic cycle repeats every
twenty years. But what's interesting here, given this mythology around
Jupiter and Saturn, is that a topic of discussion currently
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within the Democratic Party is the replacement replacement of long
term older some geriatric Democrats in Congress with newer, younger ones.
And this is something that David Hogg, one of the Parkland,
Florida High School survivors of the massacre there, has started
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an organization to do to primary longer term Democrats by
supporting younger ones. Now, up until now that's been verboten
under an unwritten law or rule that Seniority always rules.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
So this particular.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Waxing square of Jupiter Saturn highlights this conflict or dilemma,
or however one wants to think of it. Now, in
all honesty, it's only fair also to mention how the
current Trump administration has also done that by promoting people
like you who are unqualified for their positions into major positions.
(43:58):
I mean Elons obviously is the biggest example, having no
political or governmental experience, he's now, you know, responsible for
what will become the deaths of millions of people over time.
We discussed that last week or the week before too,
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so I'm not going to go into that in detail,
but in other words, this is a conflict that's becoming
more prominent as we reach the first quarter. Waxing square
of Jupiter Disaturn and On one hand, you can't blame
the Democrats and others who support respecting seniority among elected
and appointed officials based on their experience, their maturity, and
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their knowledge, just as you can't blame those who are
against the appointment of inexperienced, sometimes younger, you know, less
mature people to positions for which they are quite completely unqualified.
But there has to be a middle librin ground here, right.
It's like a asking how many people would like to
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replace Senator Bernie Sanders now I think he's eighty three
years old with someone younger, just because of his age.
On the other hand, it was clearly something that should
have happened with Dianne Feinstein, who was a Senator from
California who was showing signs of dementius, Republican Senator Chuck
Grassley who's in his nineties, and a good number of
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others who'd been too long in power. There was another
senator I think it was a reper senator I can't
their name escapes me right now, who also just gave
as a Republican I'm sorry, a Democrat who gave some
sort of speech recently where she just really like showed
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a cognitive decline. And I pointed out last week of
the week before too, how President Biden's which I mentioned
in you know, in this podcast, how his performance twenty
four during the primaries.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
And the debates and all that.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Were, you know, was a symbol of his.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
In cognitive decline.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Right, So this has been going on because we have
and I don't have the statistics in front of me,
but we have what I've read is the most geriatric
congress like in history. Now, the future will certainly belong
to the young. We know that Jupiter Square centern knows
that this is not in dispute because the older ones
will always die off. The question to me is how
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long will it take for the millennial and Generation Z
people to gain political control of this nation's government and
will it come soon enough, meaning before it's too late.
Now it's interesting too, I just found this quote and
I thought it was somewhat relevant to this topic. But
(46:55):
it's really more about how people can use their energies
to pro protest now and what would be effective versus
what is ineffective, because you again, some of the younger
people might be more of the hotheads who are going
out in the street to protest and doing so in
ways that attract more violence to them and thus negate
(47:20):
the purpose of their protesting. So Brian Klass, who authored
a book called Fluke, Chance, Chaos and Why Everything We
Do Matters, and an expert in democratic movements, recently wrote
quote democracy doesn't get saved one post at a time.
Authoritarians are delighted when their opponents only channel their anger
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into typed outrage that generates dopamine through clicks from like
minded partisans. Elon Musk will be constrained far more by
test la boycotts and the prospect of plummeting sales figures
than by.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Mean memes, which I think we've already seen. He continues.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Donald Trump hates bad optics, and mass protests are terrible
optics for a wanna be despot who falsely claims a
landslide popular mandate. And he continues, it's when we do
the same here, which is happening already, and the unconstituted
Oh no, this is my words, actually, I think, and
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the unconstitutional order is given to shoot protesters, that we
will come to the test, and when those shots are fired,
the pushback will be the first in a new revolutionary
war against a tyrant, which is exactly what opened the
door to the ultimate formation of our democratic nation to
begin with. So let's hope it ends up the same
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way again. But for now, the worst it gets, the
recognition that we'll have to fight for our constitution to prevail,
will have to morph into actions that we take to
proactively save it. But just to go back to the
topic of Jupiter Saturn and the aging out of our
representation tips or elected officials, if say, we make it
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to the point where the current US government becomes so
severely decimated, and I'm talking about the fact and not
only the repercussions from the DOGE cuts and all of
this willy nilly stuff that you know, there was a
whistleblower an article this week by a whistleblower who worked
with DOGE who no longer is there, who was saying
(49:26):
was let go because he gave some interview where he
said that he didn't see mismanagement, mismanagement, waste, fraud, and
abuse at all in the work he was doing with
with with whatever portion of the DOGE oversight was he
was responsible for, you know which agency or whatever cabinet department.
I'm not sure, but you know, that's a that's a
(49:50):
matter I think we're going to be getting into when
you're in a Center's Gemini, because I think we're talking AI.
We're talking deep fakes, we're talking about algorithms, we're talking
about you know, uh, data that is not confirmed or factual,
all these stories that AI makes up when you you know,
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try to use it to resource something.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
But anyway, that's for another time. We'll get into that soon.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
But anyway, so when I say, you know, if and
when the government becomes so severely decimated, I mean because
of those actions and also the actions of the people
who are in charge now, who are part of Donald
Trump's clown car. They're not all from his first administration,
because the responsible people there have all either were tossed
(50:39):
out by him or they vacated.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
But you know, we keep hearing on the news over
and over again how Mark Milly wouldn't let Trump use
the federal armed forces against protesters and the George Floyd
protests in twenty twenty and so on and so forth.
And now there's no one there to stand guard against that.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
There's no guard rails anymore.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
So I'm talking about if and when the repercussions of
what's going on by these people who have no idea
what they're doing, because they're all just Trump sycophants. Pam Bondi,
the Attorney General, Christy Nome, the Homeland Security Secretary, Michael
Mike Johnson, the Speaker or GOP Speaker of Majority, Speaker
of the House who called for Governor Newsom of California
(51:25):
when Governor Newsom, and I highly recommend you listen. Yesterday's
podcast Countdown podcast by Keith Olberman discussed Actually he played
the full eight minute recording of Gavin Newsom's remarks and
lauded him for being the first one to stand up
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against Donald Trump, which he called the efet Moment. But
if you listen to his words, I highly recommend it. Also,
I found out on Keith Olberman's Monday podcast, which would
have been what the ninth, I think he did two
three this week, so it was Monday or Tuesday, but
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I think it was Monday. He was talking about how
Governor Newsom, he was talking about the inequity between how
much the Blue states contribute in taxes to the federal
government and how much the red states need those moneies,
(52:29):
and so Newsom I think had alluded to the fact
that if the federal government under Trump is going to
stop allowing them federal monies, which what they've been doing
all along for many different functions, including things like FEMA
when you have a natural disaster, that California would simply
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withhold its federal government taxes, and that, according to Keith Oberman,
that totals eighty billion dollars of surplus for the federal
government that they then used to disperse along with other
Blue states tax federal tax money. New York, Illinois, I
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think Minnesota is one of them.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
But you know the big.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Democratic or blue states that they.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
They would I mean, think about it. This is like
the Civil war here.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
In the US, right If you stop putting money into
the federal coffers, all those red states will start to
become poorer than they are. And a lot of the
Red states Mississippi and Alabama and Tennessee and a lot
of them are in the South, but that's not all
of them. That they get twenty twenty five thirty thirty
(53:51):
five percent of their annual monies from the federal government.
So it's a very interesting kind of way to wage
a civil war on a monetary level that has nothing
to do with weapons and fighting on the ground. But anyway,
just to go back to the Jupiter soundern thing and
(54:11):
talking about the younger generations, I would just say that
if we make it again to the point where the
current US government becomes so severely decimated in the federal government,
yet it's still possible for us to hold free and
fair elections in twenty twenty twenty twenty eight before we
get to that waxing first quarter progressed lunar new moon
(54:33):
square in the sibling chart, and we do elect those
of the younger generations, then we can foresee them changing
the face of our current geriatric Congress into a more
forward thinking one. And if we follow this notion to
its logical conclusion, we might see that what's been destroyed
by the older generations in power has left a vacuum
(54:55):
that might more easily be filled in the future. And
here I'm talking about things that the younger generation cares about,
like gun control, climate change, the height of you know,
women's rights based on this now current misogyny, and again
the empathy for all humans, which would destroy the evil
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nature of racism. And that's to name a few So
if we've gotten to the point where lobbyists and religious
fundamentalists and just plain misogynists, women haters, and bigots have
ground our government to a halt, but a new generation
succeeds in commanding power, then we have a chance to
rebuild from the ground up. And that's where Pluto in
(55:41):
Aquarius and the US Pluto return come into play, because
once everything has been annihilated, then you can rebirth. Right,
something has to die for something new to be reborn.
All right, anyway, I'm out of time. Thank you for
listening to me. Hope hasn't been too much babbling and
that it all makes sense. But again, if you ever
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have any comments or questions about anything said here, feel
free to email me. And other than that, thank you
for joining me today. I hope you found the information
presented here helpful as you continue your karmaic evolution in
this lifetime. Please be sure to join me next week
on June twenty first. We'll talk about the summer solstice,
when the sun enters cancer on the twenty first, and
(56:27):
other things. We'll look back at what actually did happen
on June fourteenth and fifteenth and after that and till
then I will see you next week, and may your
soul's journey be filled with karmaic healing and the joy
of greater consciousness.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
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