November 6, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (11/06/25), Hank answers the following questions:
Is Matthew 24 a prophecy about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., or is it about the future? Arthur - Memphis, TN (0:53)
Am I not truly a Christian because I haven’t spoken in tongues? Gwen - East St. Louis, IL (15:12)
Are humans made up of body and soul, or body, soul, and spirit? What does “walk in the Spirit” mean? Josh - CO (18:22)
Why do newer translations omit the phrase “…who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit,” in Romans 8:1? Why only in the King James Version? Brian - Newark, NJ (21:56)
Is Matthew 24 a prophecy about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., or is it about the future? Arthur - Memphis, TN (0:53)
Am I not truly a Christian because I haven’t spoken in tongues? Gwen - East St. Louis, IL (15:12)
Are humans made up of body and soul, or body, soul, and spirit? What does “walk in the Spirit” mean? Josh - CO (18:22)
Why do newer translations omit the phrase “…who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit,” in Romans 8:1? Why only in the King James Version? Brian - Newark, NJ (21:56)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thanks very much forradiant. A lot of you hanging on.
We'll go right to the phone calls. First up Arthur
listening in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hi, Arthur, Uh, yeah, Hank. I was looking on Facebook
a couple of days ago and I saw when my
pastor had posted a question that someone had asked him
on the phone, and it was referring to Matthew twenty
four and asking if Matthew twenty four was fulfilled at
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the destruction of Jerusalem and ad instead of referring to
the rapture or the end times, and I was just
wondering what you thought about that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, I think that Matthew twenty four is talking about
a specific time frame. Remember that Jesus leaves the temple.
He's walking away and he calls the attention to the
disciples' minds about what is going to happen to the
temple when he says, do you see all these things?
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I tell you the truth, and that one stone here
will be left on another everyone will be thrown down.
So when Jesus later on, sitting on the Mount of Olives,
the disciples come to him privately and they say, tell us,
when will this happen? What will be the sign of
your coming in the end of the age. Now, obviously
they're not asking about the end of the world here,
they're asking about when the time is that Jesus will
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come in judgment on Jerusalem, when the temple would be destroyed,
when would be the end of the age's sacrifice. I mean,
he's talking about the temple being destroyed. They're asking him
questions about what he's been talking about. So you got
to take this in context. And of course a lot
of skeptics don't. There are a lot of false teachers
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and people who are skeptics with respect to the Bible
who today are saying Jesus was a false apocalyptic prophet
because in this passage he says that he would come
a second time, in other words, that he would come
and end the world. But that's not what Jesus is
talking about. He's talking about is coming in judgment. In fact,
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he uses the exact same same language used by the
Old Testament prophets, and now he applies it to Jerusalem,
and he gives a specific time parameter. He says, learn
the lesson of the fig tree. As soon as the
fig twigs get tender, as soon as the leaves come out,
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you will know that summer is near. Even so, when
you see all these things, you know that it is near.
Right at the door. I tell you the truth. So
Jesus is speaking very solemnly here. This generation will certainly
not pass away until all these things have happened. Having
and earth will pass away, but my words will never
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pass away. So Jesus is saying that all of this
would happen within a generation. Now there are people that say, well, look,
Jesus was talking about the destruction of the temple that
was standing at that time up until Matthew twenty four
to two, and then by Matthew four four he had
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changed direction. And now he's talking about another temple. But
there's no warrant for that exegetically, that's reading a gap
of two thousand years into the text between twenty four
two and twenty four to four. The other thing, in
terms of rapture, I mean, think about what that entails.
Rapture is supposedly believers leaving this earth. But if you
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read this text, what you have is precisely the opposite
as it was in the days of Noah. So it
will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
For in the days before the flood, people were eating
and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage up to the
day Noah entered the Ark, and they knew nothing about
what would happen until the flood came and took them
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all away. So who's being taken away there? It's not believers.
And then says Jesus, that is how it will be
at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men
will be in the field, one will be taken and
the other left. Two women will be grinding with a handmill.
One will be taken and the other left. So again,
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in the flood, they were taken in judgment, hardly taken
in kind of a pre tribulational rapture fashion. So I
don't think anybody wants to use that passage for a
pre tribulational rapture unless they're completely misguided as to the
clear meaning of the text.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay, well, as far as the rapture is concerned, when
you're talking about the two women in the field, wouldn't
that be referring to the rapture when it's talking about
one will be taken and one will be left?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I mean, yeah, but who's taken.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Would be killed in the flood?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, but who's taken? It says, as in the days
of Noah, so will be at the coming of the
Son of Man. For in the days before the flood,
people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage
up to the day Noah entered the arc, and they
knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came
and took them all away. The flood came as judgment
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on them. Only Noah eight and all Noah his family
were saved in the waters of the flood. So the
people that were.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Taken were also saying that at that time that Noah
and his family were the only ones that were believers
of God, and that were the only ones that were
righteous people, and that was why they were saved.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's right, and everybody else was taken in judgment. That's
the point.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
The whole thing with the two women in the field,
I would assume that it means that the one that
is taken would be the one that's a believer, and
the one that's left behind would be the one that's
not a believer.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, but that's not the analogy. The people that were
taken in the flood were taken in judgment. And then
the text says that is how it will be at
the coming of the sort of men. Two men will
be in the field. One will be taken taken in judgment,
the other left. Two women will be grinding with a handmill.
One will be taken taken in judgment, the other left.
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But again, the whole passage, as I've pointed out earlier,
is talking about the judgment that would come on Jerusalem
with respect to Jerusalem and the temple itself. In fact, Jesus,
the heir to the linguistic riches of the Old Testament prophets,
and a greater theologian than them all takes the language
of the Old Testament prophets and applies that to what
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will happen in Jerusalem. For example, when Jesus says the
sun will be darkened and the moon will not give
its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and
the heavenly bodies will be shaken, you, as a Biblical believer,
know precisely what he's talking about, because you're familiar with
the language, because you've read the Old Testament, so you're
already familiar with that language, and you know that's not
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about the end of the world, but it's judgment language,
the same language that let's say Isaiah used with respect
to the meeds putting an end to the glories of
the Babylonian kingdom.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, so rapture in a lot of people's minds is
not going to happen before the seven years of tribulation,
Then what would be the point of being filled by Christ?
Now by those of us who believe in God.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But where do you get a pre tribulational rapture to
begin with? Where do you find that in the passage
that's what I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, that's that's what I thought that the whole passage
of the two women in the field, that's where I
got that from. I thought it was referring to the
believing woman being raptured by Christ and the non believing
woman being left behind, because it talks about the coming
of Christ will be like theo will be like the
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twinkling of an eye. That it's just it's going to
happen in an instant.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, But again, the point is this is not dealing
with what's happening in the twenty first century. That's the point. Okay,
that's not the question that Jesus is asking. He leaves
the temple, he's walking away. Is the sapless come to
him and calls attention to its buildings, and he says,
do you see all these things? I tell you the truth?
Not one stone here will be left on another. Everyone
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will be thrown down. And then later on the disciples
want clarification. Jesus gives them clarification. He's talking here in
answer to their question, when will this happen? What will
be the sign of your coming? And the end of
the age, not the end of the world. But the
end of the age is sacrifice because the temple is
going to be districted.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'll say, what you're saying is at the end of
the age. You're saying that this is not talking about
the destruction of the world itself.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, no, no, I mean it's talking about a tribulation,
but not a tribulation in the twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Okay, from what I understand is the Bible, there's only
going to be one tribulation.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, where do you find the tribulation in any passage
in the scripture in the twenty first century? That's the point. Yes,
there was a great tribulation, and Jesus uses prophetic hyperbole
to describe it. Then the it'll be great tribulation unequaled
from the beginning of the world until now, and never
to be equalled again. He's talking here about the destruction
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
Thank you very much for Indian. Let's go right back
to our phone callers. Next up as Gwen. She's listening
in Saint Louis, Illinois. Hi Gwen, Hi, how are you.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I've been waiting for two hours to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I look to you every day.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, thank you for being patient.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Okay, that's wonderful. I have a simple question. I have
never spoken tongue. But I know I am a child
of God. I know i'm his daughter. But I've been
told that I have to want it bad enough, and
that it would eventually come, and that I'm not truly
a Christian because I never spoke in tongues before.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, it's just dead wrong. Speaking in tongues is not
a gift that everybody has. Number one, even in the
first century. And number two, let me say that many
Christians are convinced that tongues are not normative today, which
is to say, not all speak in tongues in a
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normative fashion today. Tongues is a language, a language you
haven't learned. And certainly there's no evidence whatsoever that if
you do not speak in tongues you're not saved. How
are you saved? You're saved when you realize you're a sinner.
You repent of your sin and receive Jesus Christ as
savior and Lord of your life. When you do, then
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the Holy Spirit comes to dwell inside of you.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And as the Holy Spirit dwells inside of you, so too,
he empowers you. He and fills you with power so
that you can be a witness, so that you can
hear more nearly and dearly from His word. This does
not involve speaking in tongues.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Okay, great, thank you. Because I thought I was missing
something and I was asking God for it and he
just never seemed to give that to me. That gives
me and I know I read it where it was
a gift, and it's a lot of gifts he give you,
and I thought, well, maybe it's just not one of them.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Well, and we don't all have the same gifts. We
have different gifts according to grace given us. But even
beyond that, let me emphasize the fact that a lot
of believers, myself included, do not believe that tongues are
normative for today.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Now, I'm the same way though, Hank, I feel the
same way, But a lot of people don't feel that way,
and they seem to think that it's something wrong with
me and my God, you know that he wouldn't give
me this gift, and since I want it so bad,
But the only reason why I wanted it is so
bad is because people seem to think that I'm not
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saved because I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, you are saved, Gwen, if you realize you're a siner,
repent of your sin and receive Jesus Christ's savior and
Lord you are his, and He is yours, and no
one will snatch you out of his head. In First
Corinthians chapter twelve, you have all believers being baptized in
the Holy Spirit. Yet in First Corinthians chapter twelve, thirty.
You have not all believers speaking in tongues. Okay, you
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can be baptized in the spirit without speaking in tongues,
is my point.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Okay, thank you so much. Thank God, bless you.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
God bless you as well. When we go back to
the film lines, doctor Josh Josh is listening in Colorado,
listening on the web. Hi Josh, Hi Hank, How are
you good evening?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm well?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Thank you, Hank.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Let me tell you this, this program is very, very
beneficial and God bless you so much. Thank you, Hanka.
I have a question on the constitutional man, like what
what do you think Bible says whether man is dichotomus
or trichotomus? And so I heard a lot of verses
written by both the schools like his spirit and soul
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used interchangeably at the terms and soul used intertainable in
the Bible. If that is so, what does it mean
by when the Bible says walk in the spirit, so
can we take as walk in the soul? Or I
mean what does it mean? And also could you explain,
like how can we interpret Hebrews foot well and fast
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Colonians by twenty three?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, I think the distinction made in Hebrews Chapter four
twelve is a distinction between the soul and the spirit,
as to that which relates to creation, the soul, and
that which relates to the creator, the spirit. So in
my view, at least, the soul and the spirit are
two functions of the immaterial aspect of humanity, as opposed
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to two separate components of man's humanity or our humanity.
And I think that's true in other places in the
scripture as well. If you look at Mark twelve, where
we're told to love God with our heart, mind, and
sol strength, this is not three separate components of man's being,
but rather three distinguishable aspects of our nature. So again,
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I think that we are body soul unities. And when
you talk about the immaterial aspect of humanity, the soul
or spirit are used interchangeably with respect to whether we're
talking about the creator or created things.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Okay, so what can the spirit means? Like, what can
the Holy Spirit or the guidance of the Holy Spirit?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yes, yes, and I think that's true as well. When
we talk about praying in the spirit, we are praying
in concert with the will and purposes of God. Let
me Hasten to add that whether you're a trichotomist or
a dichotomist is a secondary issue. I think the problem
sometimes in charismatic circles or pentecostal circles is that people
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will say that you can receive rama knowledge, and that
is knowledge that bypasses the mind and goes directly into
the spirit, and therefore it's understood in a way apart
from the mind. And I think sometimes that's why you
find people like Kenneth Copeland telling you that the mind
becomes the obstacle to enlightenment, and this simply is not true.
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We need to serve the Lord with the entirety of
our being and not believe that we can get information
esoterically apart from being able to understand the truth and
then live the life or embrace life. We're told in
scripture watch your life and doctrine closely. So it's not
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one or the other, it's both in we are to
have a sense of life on the one hand and
true belief on the other. Want to go back to
the phone lines, doctor Brian listening in Newark.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Hi, Brian, Oh, thank I only enjoyed your programming. You
get a lot of insight. I had this question I've
been wanting to ask for a long time. Romans eight one.
You know, it starts out in the King James. In
all our Bibles, it starts out now there is therefore
now no condomination for those are in criseses. But then,
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as far as I can tell, there's no other version
except the King and James that adds in there that
you know, for those who are walking according to the
spirit and not after the flesh. And I was wondering
because since the only one, could it possibly be that
King and James just didn't want there to be absolutely
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no condimation for those you know are truly saved.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well, no, I mean I think that this is a
gloss This is something that is added. It's a scribal insertion.
It's not found in the most reliable manuscript evidence, and
that's why you don't find it in the newer translations.
But it is not something that is wholly apart from
the teachings of scripture either. So while it doesn't belong
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in the text here, and that's why the newer translations
don't include it, it is not something unbiblical or not
something that the Bible doesn't teach elsewhere.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
You know, it does go on to say later in
the chapter that you know where if you belong to Jesus,
I can't pay I'm just paraphrase it as I remember it,
but I saw it them out. How if uh, if
you belong to Jesus, then you are actually walking in
the spirit and not in a place I mean later
on in a chapter.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
That's why I say it's contradicts.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
No, it doesn't. Therefore, there is now no condemnation for
those who are in Christ Jesus, in other words, those
who do not live according to the sinful nature, but
rather live in accordance with the spirit. This does not
mean that we don't still have a sinful nature, but
we are crucifying our sinful nature. We are not living
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in accordance with our sinful nature. We're constantly combating our
sinful nature. We're constantly putting on the full armor of
God so that we can stand against the world, the
flesh and the devil.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
You know, I just understand. You know why it ended
up in the King James and and like my pastor
around I'm talking about it, and he had a Bible
that have had like four different translations, a huge book,
and he and I think it also had a note
a footnote that this the second part of that that
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we're talking about here, wasn't in any of the other
earlier manuscripts or any other translation that could be found.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And well, that's exactly right like that. That's why they
make that note in the King James version. The reason
is is because what you have in biblical development is
what's called the science of textual criticism. And what that
means is that as more and more manuscripts come to light,
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you can compare one manuscript with the other manuscript and
you can find things like a missing conjunction or a
scribal insertion. But what has been found, and this is
now after five six hundred and sixty four manuscript fragments,
what has been found is differences in style, but not
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differences in substance. There are scribal insertions that really don't
belong in the text, but they're never in contradiction to
the text itself. But through the tenacity of the text,
the autograph actually emerges. By comparing manuscript by manuscript. There
are mistakes in the manuscripts, but they're not all the
same mistakes and therefore through textual criticism you can come
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thanks very much forradiant. A lot of you hanging on.
We'll go right to the phone calls. First up Arthur
listening in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hi, Arthur, Uh, yeah, Hank. I was looking on Facebook
a couple of days ago and I saw when my
pastor had posted a question that someone had asked him
on the phone, and it was referring to Matthew twenty
four and asking if Matthew twenty four was fulfilled at
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the destruction of Jerusalem and ad instead of referring to
the rapture or the end times, and I was just
wondering what you thought about that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, I think that Matthew twenty four is talking about
a specific time frame. Remember that Jesus leaves the temple.
He's walking away and he calls the attention to the
disciples' minds about what is going to happen to the
temple when he says, do you see all these things?
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I tell you the truth, and that one stone here
will be left on another everyone will be thrown down.
So when Jesus later on, sitting on the Mount of Olives,
the disciples come to him privately and they say, tell us,
when will this happen? What will be the sign of
your coming in the end of the age. Now, obviously
they're not asking about the end of the world here,
they're asking about when the time is that Jesus will
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come in judgment on Jerusalem, when the temple would be destroyed,
when would be the end of the age's sacrifice. I mean,
he's talking about the temple being destroyed. They're asking him
questions about what he's been talking about. So you got
to take this in context. And of course a lot
of skeptics don't. There are a lot of false teachers
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and people who are skeptics with respect to the Bible
who today are saying Jesus was a false apocalyptic prophet
because in this passage he says that he would come
a second time, in other words, that he would come
and end the world. But that's not what Jesus is
talking about. He's talking about is coming in judgment. In fact,
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he uses the exact same same language used by the
Old Testament prophets, and now he applies it to Jerusalem,
and he gives a specific time parameter. He says, learn
the lesson of the fig tree. As soon as the
fig twigs get tender, as soon as the leaves come out,
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you will know that summer is near. Even so, when
you see all these things, you know that it is near.
Right at the door. I tell you the truth. So
Jesus is speaking very solemnly here. This generation will certainly
not pass away until all these things have happened. Having
and earth will pass away, but my words will never
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pass away. So Jesus is saying that all of this
would happen within a generation. Now there are people that say, well, look,
Jesus was talking about the destruction of the temple that
was standing at that time up until Matthew twenty four
to two, and then by Matthew four four he had
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changed direction. And now he's talking about another temple. But
there's no warrant for that exegetically, that's reading a gap
of two thousand years into the text between twenty four
two and twenty four to four. The other thing, in
terms of rapture, I mean, think about what that entails.
Rapture is supposedly believers leaving this earth. But if you
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read this text, what you have is precisely the opposite
as it was in the days of Noah. So it
will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
For in the days before the flood, people were eating
and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage up to the
day Noah entered the Ark, and they knew nothing about
what would happen until the flood came and took them
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all away. So who's being taken away there? It's not believers.
And then says Jesus, that is how it will be
at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men
will be in the field, one will be taken and
the other left. Two women will be grinding with a handmill.
One will be taken and the other left. So again,
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in the flood, they were taken in judgment, hardly taken
in kind of a pre tribulational rapture fashion. So I
don't think anybody wants to use that passage for a
pre tribulational rapture unless they're completely misguided as to the
clear meaning of the text.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay, well, as far as the rapture is concerned, when
you're talking about the two women in the field, wouldn't
that be referring to the rapture when it's talking about
one will be taken and one will be left?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I mean, yeah, but who's taken.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Would be killed in the flood?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, but who's taken? It says, as in the days
of Noah, so will be at the coming of the
Son of Man. For in the days before the flood,
people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage
up to the day Noah entered the arc, and they
knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came
and took them all away. The flood came as judgment
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on them. Only Noah eight and all Noah his family
were saved in the waters of the flood. So the
people that were.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Taken were also saying that at that time that Noah
and his family were the only ones that were believers
of God, and that were the only ones that were
righteous people, and that was why they were saved.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's right, and everybody else was taken in judgment. That's
the point.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
The whole thing with the two women in the field,
I would assume that it means that the one that
is taken would be the one that's a believer, and
the one that's left behind would be the one that's
not a believer.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, but that's not the analogy. The people that were
taken in the flood were taken in judgment. And then
the text says that is how it will be at
the coming of the sort of men. Two men will
be in the field. One will be taken taken in judgment,
the other left. Two women will be grinding with a handmill.
One will be taken taken in judgment, the other left.
(07:01):
But again, the whole passage, as I've pointed out earlier,
is talking about the judgment that would come on Jerusalem
with respect to Jerusalem and the temple itself. In fact, Jesus,
the heir to the linguistic riches of the Old Testament prophets,
and a greater theologian than them all takes the language
of the Old Testament prophets and applies that to what
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will happen in Jerusalem. For example, when Jesus says the
sun will be darkened and the moon will not give
its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and
the heavenly bodies will be shaken, you, as a Biblical believer,
know precisely what he's talking about, because you're familiar with
the language, because you've read the Old Testament, so you're
already familiar with that language, and you know that's not
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about the end of the world, but it's judgment language,
the same language that let's say Isaiah used with respect
to the meeds putting an end to the glories of
the Babylonian kingdom.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, so rapture in a lot of people's minds is
not going to happen before the seven years of tribulation,
Then what would be the point of being filled by Christ?
Now by those of us who believe in God.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But where do you get a pre tribulational rapture to
begin with? Where do you find that in the passage
that's what I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, that's that's what I thought that the whole passage
of the two women in the field, that's where I
got that from. I thought it was referring to the
believing woman being raptured by Christ and the non believing
woman being left behind, because it talks about the coming
of Christ will be like theo will be like the
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twinkling of an eye. That it's just it's going to
happen in an instant.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, But again, the point is this is not dealing
with what's happening in the twenty first century. That's the point. Okay,
that's not the question that Jesus is asking. He leaves
the temple, he's walking away. Is the sapless come to
him and calls attention to its buildings, and he says,
do you see all these things? I tell you the truth?
Not one stone here will be left on another. Everyone
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will be thrown down. And then later on the disciples
want clarification. Jesus gives them clarification. He's talking here in
answer to their question, when will this happen? What will
be the sign of your coming? And the end of
the age, not the end of the world. But the
end of the age is sacrifice because the temple is
going to be districted.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'll say, what you're saying is at the end of
the age. You're saying that this is not talking about
the destruction of the world itself.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, no, no, I mean it's talking about a tribulation,
but not a tribulation in the twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Okay, from what I understand is the Bible, there's only
going to be one tribulation.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, where do you find the tribulation in any passage
in the scripture in the twenty first century? That's the point. Yes,
there was a great tribulation, and Jesus uses prophetic hyperbole
to describe it. Then the it'll be great tribulation unequaled
from the beginning of the world until now, and never
to be equalled again. He's talking here about the destruction
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
Thank you very much for Indian. Let's go right back
to our phone callers. Next up as Gwen. She's listening
in Saint Louis, Illinois. Hi Gwen, Hi, how are you.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I've been waiting for two hours to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I look to you every day.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, thank you for being patient.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Okay, that's wonderful. I have a simple question. I have
never spoken tongue. But I know I am a child
of God. I know i'm his daughter. But I've been
told that I have to want it bad enough, and
that it would eventually come, and that I'm not truly
a Christian because I never spoke in tongues before.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, it's just dead wrong. Speaking in tongues is not
a gift that everybody has. Number one, even in the
first century. And number two, let me say that many
Christians are convinced that tongues are not normative today, which
is to say, not all speak in tongues in a
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normative fashion today. Tongues is a language, a language you
haven't learned. And certainly there's no evidence whatsoever that if
you do not speak in tongues you're not saved. How
are you saved? You're saved when you realize you're a sinner.
You repent of your sin and receive Jesus Christ as
savior and Lord of your life. When you do, then
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the Holy Spirit comes to dwell inside of you.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And as the Holy Spirit dwells inside of you, so too,
he empowers you. He and fills you with power so
that you can be a witness, so that you can
hear more nearly and dearly from His word. This does
not involve speaking in tongues.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Okay, great, thank you. Because I thought I was missing
something and I was asking God for it and he
just never seemed to give that to me. That gives
me and I know I read it where it was
a gift, and it's a lot of gifts he give you,
and I thought, well, maybe it's just not one of them.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Well, and we don't all have the same gifts. We
have different gifts according to grace given us. But even
beyond that, let me emphasize the fact that a lot
of believers, myself included, do not believe that tongues are
normative for today.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Now, I'm the same way though, Hank, I feel the
same way, But a lot of people don't feel that way,
and they seem to think that it's something wrong with
me and my God, you know that he wouldn't give
me this gift, and since I want it so bad,
But the only reason why I wanted it is so
bad is because people seem to think that I'm not
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saved because I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, you are saved, Gwen, if you realize you're a siner,
repent of your sin and receive Jesus Christ's savior and
Lord you are his, and He is yours, and no
one will snatch you out of his head. In First
Corinthians chapter twelve, you have all believers being baptized in
the Holy Spirit. Yet in First Corinthians chapter twelve, thirty.
You have not all believers speaking in tongues. Okay, you
(18:13):
can be baptized in the spirit without speaking in tongues,
is my point.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Okay, thank you so much. Thank God, bless you.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
God bless you as well. When we go back to
the film lines, doctor Josh Josh is listening in Colorado,
listening on the web. Hi Josh, Hi Hank, How are
you good evening?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm well?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Thank you, Hank.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Let me tell you this, this program is very, very
beneficial and God bless you so much. Thank you, Hanka.
I have a question on the constitutional man, like what
what do you think Bible says whether man is dichotomus
or trichotomus? And so I heard a lot of verses
written by both the schools like his spirit and soul
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used interchangeably at the terms and soul used intertainable in
the Bible. If that is so, what does it mean
by when the Bible says walk in the spirit, so
can we take as walk in the soul? Or I
mean what does it mean? And also could you explain,
like how can we interpret Hebrews foot well and fast
(19:18):
Colonians by twenty three?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, I think the distinction made in Hebrews Chapter four
twelve is a distinction between the soul and the spirit,
as to that which relates to creation, the soul, and
that which relates to the creator, the spirit. So in
my view, at least, the soul and the spirit are
two functions of the immaterial aspect of humanity, as opposed
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to two separate components of man's humanity or our humanity.
And I think that's true in other places in the
scripture as well. If you look at Mark twelve, where
we're told to love God with our heart, mind, and
sol strength, this is not three separate components of man's being,
but rather three distinguishable aspects of our nature. So again,
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I think that we are body soul unities. And when
you talk about the immaterial aspect of humanity, the soul
or spirit are used interchangeably with respect to whether we're
talking about the creator or created things.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Okay, so what can the spirit means? Like, what can
the Holy Spirit or the guidance of the Holy Spirit?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yes, yes, and I think that's true as well. When
we talk about praying in the spirit, we are praying
in concert with the will and purposes of God. Let
me Hasten to add that whether you're a trichotomist or
a dichotomist is a secondary issue. I think the problem
sometimes in charismatic circles or pentecostal circles is that people
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will say that you can receive rama knowledge, and that
is knowledge that bypasses the mind and goes directly into
the spirit, and therefore it's understood in a way apart
from the mind. And I think sometimes that's why you
find people like Kenneth Copeland telling you that the mind
becomes the obstacle to enlightenment, and this simply is not true.
(21:26):
We need to serve the Lord with the entirety of
our being and not believe that we can get information
esoterically apart from being able to understand the truth and
then live the life or embrace life. We're told in
scripture watch your life and doctrine closely. So it's not
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one or the other, it's both in we are to
have a sense of life on the one hand and
true belief on the other. Want to go back to
the phone lines, doctor Brian listening in Newark.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Hi, Brian, Oh, thank I only enjoyed your programming. You
get a lot of insight. I had this question I've
been wanting to ask for a long time. Romans eight one.
You know, it starts out in the King James. In
all our Bibles, it starts out now there is therefore
now no condomination for those are in criseses. But then,
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as far as I can tell, there's no other version
except the King and James that adds in there that
you know, for those who are walking according to the
spirit and not after the flesh. And I was wondering
because since the only one, could it possibly be that
King and James just didn't want there to be absolutely
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no condimation for those you know are truly saved.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well, no, I mean I think that this is a
gloss This is something that is added. It's a scribal insertion.
It's not found in the most reliable manuscript evidence, and
that's why you don't find it in the newer translations.
But it is not something that is wholly apart from
the teachings of scripture either. So while it doesn't belong
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in the text here, and that's why the newer translations
don't include it, it is not something unbiblical or not
something that the Bible doesn't teach elsewhere.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
You know, it does go on to say later in
the chapter that you know where if you belong to Jesus,
I can't pay I'm just paraphrase it as I remember it,
but I saw it them out. How if uh, if
you belong to Jesus, then you are actually walking in
the spirit and not in a place I mean later
on in a chapter.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
That's why I say it's contradicts.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
No, it doesn't. Therefore, there is now no condemnation for
those who are in Christ Jesus, in other words, those
who do not live according to the sinful nature, but
rather live in accordance with the spirit. This does not
mean that we don't still have a sinful nature, but
we are crucifying our sinful nature. We are not living
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in accordance with our sinful nature. We're constantly combating our
sinful nature. We're constantly putting on the full armor of
God so that we can stand against the world, the
flesh and the devil.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
You know, I just understand. You know why it ended
up in the King James and and like my pastor
around I'm talking about it, and he had a Bible
that have had like four different translations, a huge book,
and he and I think it also had a note
a footnote that this the second part of that that
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we're talking about here, wasn't in any of the other
earlier manuscripts or any other translation that could be found.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And well, that's exactly right like that. That's why they
make that note in the King James version. The reason
is is because what you have in biblical development is
what's called the science of textual criticism. And what that
means is that as more and more manuscripts come to light,
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you can compare one manuscript with the other manuscript and
you can find things like a missing conjunction or a
scribal insertion. But what has been found, and this is
now after five six hundred and sixty four manuscript fragments,
what has been found is differences in style, but not
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differences in substance. There are scribal insertions that really don't
belong in the text, but they're never in contradiction to
the text itself. But through the tenacity of the text,
the autograph actually emerges. By comparing manuscript by manuscript. There
are mistakes in the manuscripts, but they're not all the
same mistakes and therefore through textual criticism you can come
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up with the original. Again, I explained how all of
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