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November 9, 2025 4 mins

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Today is a Supporters-Only BONUS episode where we have a quick discussion about a TikTok video that raises questions about the morality of having children and deeper conspiracies about destruction of the family unit, conservative takeovers of conspiracy theorists and larger capitalist control systems! 

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(00:00):
All right, today's episode is a bonus only episode.

(00:03):
That's only for the supporter feeds at patreon.com/bringsocialnorms
or Apple Premium.
If you match the button and you're in on the Apple Podcast app
and we're gonna talk about kids and capitalism
and politics and oh boy, it's a wild one here.
It's a little snake preview.
Is it immoral to have children?

(00:25):
Today we unpack some of these ideas
in a special bonus episode called
"Wanna call for the wise-ups here?"
I'll bring you social norms.
(laughs)
- That's not really what I wanted to talk about.
- Oh. (laughs)
- You're hilarious.
That was because Isaac wanted to have a fucking intro
'cause he's a...

(00:45):
- You got a hook 'em.
- You're a creature of habit.
What I wanted to say is,
I was sitting back and I watched a real Instagram reel
and I sent it to Isaac that talked about this man
who got on Substack and he read an article
about this guy who was highly political
and the article was about children being a control system

(01:10):
and that they couldn't, if you have children,
it significantly lessens your abilities to for risk.
You now have to become risk averse.
- We play the clip real quick so they can hear the full argument.

(01:30):
- Yes, put the clip.
- Okay.
- So, what do you think?
- Okay, so he's referencing a philosophy
called anti-natalism.
There's a bunch of things that made me think

(01:53):
'cause you gave it to me cold.
You said watch this and we'll talk about it.
So my little preview there, but little intro
was what I saw from it.
- Okay, you just saw that it was.
- He's talking about this philosophy called anti-natalism
which says it's a moral to have children
because having children,

(02:14):
because life leads to suffering inevitably, right?
And therefore it's a moral to create life
'cause you're basically creating suffering.
- Okay.
- Not what I got out of it.
- And well, that's part, and I totally got what he was saying
about the capitalist system and kids limiting,

(02:37):
the having children keeps you trapped in a sort of prison.
- But what it reminded me of was,
what do they tell you, when you were in the military,
what was the push?
- All right, that's the end of the preview.
If you want to go ad-free early access,
bone is content like this,
the morning coffee with the wise-ups,

(02:57):
sometimes you do after dark with the wise-ups
where it gets real spicy, you know where to go,
you know what to do, patreon.com/bringensosanorms
or Apple Premium, smash the button and you're in.
Okay, all right, thanks for listening.
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