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August 27, 2025 128 mins
Today we’re discussing the manifestation of demonic activity taking its toll on Lil Nas X and Roseanne Barr! We’ll talk about Lil Nas X’s mental breakdown and a wild conspiracy about how his facial paralysis is tied to adrenochrome and the film Dune! Then we’ll talk about a recent episode of Roseanne Barr’s podcast where she interviewed Bishop Larry Gaiters and they’re roles in grifting for the Dark Enlightenment and the story of Roseanne selling her soul to the Devil for fame! We start out with Patreon chat book recommendations and Snoop Dogg's aversion to gay media.

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Today we're discussing the manifestation of demonic activity taking its toll on Lil Nas X and Rose Ann bar

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We're gonna talk about Lil Nas X's mental breakdown in a wild conspiracy about his facial paralysis tied to a drain or chrome and the film
Doon never gonna talk about the recent episode of Rose Ann bars podcast where she interviewed Bishop Larry Gators and
Their roles in grifting for the dark enlightenment. My name is Isaac Wise. I've been
Research and conspiracy since 2011 and today on bringing social media. I'm of course joined by my beautiful Normie wife, Josie

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There's about to get red-pilled into the bottom of the rabbit hole join along as we get into it
Fuck that up. Oh great. In did it. Oh, that's what I said. I don't know what the fuck I said
I was freewheeling it at the end
And just got messed up now before we get into the topics

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We have enabled the patreon live chat feature a
Little late to the game
I didn't know that was a thing until I joined cash daddy's patreon and they're always chatting on the chat
And I said what the hell by doing I that's turning these things on for our patreon, so yeah
What's going on in the chat is anyone using it on breaking social norms of the chat?

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We're talking about horny books and
Books okay, what everybody's reading what they're giving recommendations. I'm giving recommendations. We're just
Staying in our tight little community and he good recommendations to hear about
I don't know one the annual says
How about some good old fashioned hand house forums have you ever read those?

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No, I haven't either those are not our time frame
No, I know they're top isn't just like horny stories people write in or something. I don't know are they two stories
I think that's the illusion
Okay, maybe they're just fantasies. I've never read it. I don't I don't hate that. I like a good short story something that's real sexy

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We didn't have penthouse at our home. We did not either we were a playboy family
Classy yeah, respectable
What was the difference penthouse showed vagina. Oh, yeah, okay? Yeah, you can't that with children in the house my god
my goodness

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Yeah, and then Sarah
I want to be really crude, but I won't be okay. Thanks
Changing images I like that I get all like
Pearl clutchy and then I'm over here anyways back to the horny books. I'm reading
I can't help it the heart wants what it wants. Why is it when men do it? It's gross

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And when women do it it's sexy
Is that a thing or am I just thinking do I have rose colored glasses do what like talk about sex and be in that I
Feel like when men do it. It's like crude and joky and when women do it. It's like
crude

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It's also
I don't know. Maybe I just have like
Too much self esteem and I think too well of myself maybe I'm just a piece of shit. I don't know who knows
I don't know you're coming from with that. I don't know
I get what you're saying because I've never talked to another guy about their

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sexual encounters and had them
Really paint a picture that made me really turned on where I was like oh that sounds so hot
I don't know if I've ever done that with a girl
Well, I don't want to do this. I think when I sit down and I talk to my girlfriends. It's like
It's more

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commute like community building
Okay, so I'm like who was he good in bed? What did he do and so I like to get the juicy details like with my girlfriends that are having
Fun times, but it's not like I'm like oh yeah now what you know
It's just a true exactly. It's not like that. It's more like

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Okay, like it almost validates if he's a good person or not a good person. Oh interesting. It's more about like is he worth your time?
Not about like anything else
Okay, interesting
Yeah guys, we don't really I mean I'm I've been married too long and hung out hang out with married men and you guys don't talk about wives

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You do not talk about wives that is weird. Yeah, so we don't talk about it
So that leaves us with football and that's it
Do you think but we talk about you
Yeah, but like for men it's different
Yeah, cuz you guys sexualize everything and we don't I think that that's the difference here selling how great our wives are

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It's sex to our friends our friends are gonna try to fuck her you know
That's my point that's my point is that women can have that discussion and
It not be to sexualize our husbands
And it's becomes more about like connection and like what we're experiencing you guys are different animal altogether

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Where is like that's what I mean is like it's not this it's not the same context. Hmm. I guess is my point
Interesting all right. I don't know anyways. What okay. What else is on the patreon chat you said there was someone reading a book on there
Or they told me to read a book or you to read a book or something?
Well, I got lots they said uh, oh, let's run through a corporation paper clip

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The book what do you know about it read? Yeah, I know about the operation paper clip. There's a book called it somewhere
They brought the Nazis over
After World War two, uh-huh
Remember I think we talked about this last week we talked about why when they're in the vevelsburg castle
They had a paper clip that would have no which Nazi they wanted to pull it to America. Gotcha

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Yeah, no, I've I've not read an entire book on the subject. So I'd have to look into that
Okay, that one gets
Doesn't sound very horny to me
Richie so I don't know
Maybe I'd be that's up Isaac Sally and less mine
Let you know what I find

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and then
Sarah just started reading changing images by images of man
Have you heard of that one? No
She says it's very interesting so far 11 out of 10 recommends so wait tell me what it's called again changing images of man

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by ow
Markly
It's a Joseph Campbell. Oh, okay Joseph
Campbell
Whoa, it's a thousand dollars on on Amazon
Hey, let me see that book tell who who has read that Sarah send that book when you're done
We want to read it. I want to read it real quick. It's not like it's $2,599

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For the hardback a thousand dollars for the paperback for fucking what?
So Joseph Campbell edited it ow. Markly edited it
Ow Markly authored it. Okay. Wow. That's a trip
Where did she find that book?
That's cool

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Sarah let's let's keep chatting. I'm now I'm very now. I'm very interested in this book. Okay. That's interesting
Okay, you know what we'll get my interest beside sex bougie shit. I like a good
Like something like why is it that expensive? That's wild. Yeah, that's crazy, man
Let me see. Okay, so sometimes Amazon they'll have a book on there and they'll say it's an obscene amount

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Because there's only one thing of it out there. So let's go to eBay
300 bucks on eBay. All right
Wow, wow, wow, wow
So what's it about? Yeah, I'd have to learn more before I buy that. Okay, a book so I bought books off of here before
Non-available
Dang. What's that fucking book about now I'm interested Sarah. Okay, send me a quit. It doesn't have to be crazy, but just give me a

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What the fuck is this about I guess I could look it up
Yeah, we could probably find the PDF's
I'll Google it. I'll Google it says here. It is the editors present changing images of man based upon transformation from the old
Mechanistic reductionistic paradigm mindset to the new ecological holistic paradigm mindset
I don't know what that means

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reductivism is
They used to look at the world as I don't know when this happened, but it used to look at the world
There's an image of a duck that they painted that portrayed this reductivism and inside the duck
It was like gears and shit, you know, I think I've seen something similar to that. Yeah, it's like thing everything's just a machine

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Okay, you know is what it used to be so they're saying that this is
discussing a
paradigm shift to
ecological holistic
mindset which sounds to me kind of like a
Majorial low-woll consciousness stuff maybe
Interesting all right, well

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Okay, any other books on there any other chats worth chatting about?
I know well, I mean lots, but
Or just okay just do a quickie all right. Well, that's cool. All right good. I'm glad everyone's using that
So yeah, if you're on the patreon get on that chat light up that chat
Yeah, now what's what's frustrating about the patreon chat? I messaged patreon because I said hey

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Because usually when I get comments I'll get the notification on my phone. I haven't gotten any notifications
I literally have to go so I have to think about it be like oh, let me go see you on the chat
Okay, I'll have to get on your phone and figure it out. I don't know my phone's being a piece of shit
So whatever well anyway, yeah, we don't get notified when there's new chats
So give me a minute to get on there and check it out
But yeah, you get on there every other day or so I do I try to do but try to go on there at least once a day if I can

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Had a pretty good going okay anyway. All right. Yeah, there you go. So if you're on the patreon check it out get the chat and
All right
What are we talking about today big gulps little Nas X do you know who that is?
Okay
Little Nas X he's the gay guy the gay guy old town road. Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Well, he had the the demon shoes the demon shoes. That's right
Okay, and my whole thing with with him oh my back is coming my whole thing with him is that
He did old town road, which was a
Super popular song amongst the kids get a giant kid fan base

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So his handlers like why don't you make it why don't you write a kids book so we can make some more money off these kids
So he writes the kids book
And then like the very next month he starts going hard into paint unlike all this ultra gay stuff
Which I don't care that's up to you parents you got to talk to your kids about like gay people like
They exist in the world you got to figure out how you're gonna handle it like Snoop Dogg recently gotten trouble not trouble

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Snoop Dogg is on the news because I guess he took his kids to some I don't know some cartoon or Disney movie and there was a
Same-sex couple. I don't know male or female. I don't what they were I
Didn't give it any energy. I don't care what Snoop Dogg thinks about anything. He's a fucking grifter
So he's an old grifter like he used to be cool and it's like dude
You're so he I never seen a bigger sell out my fucking life him in shack

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I'm like you two are fucking losers. I used to be my heroes and like you guys are fucking selling anything you can put your name on
Yeah, it's like outrageous
Anyway, I guess he was like really upset by it and so like all the right wing media's have been interviewing him because they you know
They want to capitalize on this. Yeah, and his whole thing is like why do I got explained to my kids about us?

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I go to watch a movie with my kids now I got explain to him and it's like well, I don't know that you're a parent
You're a fucking job, bro. What are we talking about like why why is this so hard for parents?
Why is talking to their children on the end all be all of
Of their existence. They fucking I can't talk I can't watch the news because my kids are in the room

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It's like your kids have to learn how to function. What are you talking about? I don't get that either because I
I think it's an opportunity to chat. Yeah, I'd be like okay, look kids like some people. I think they're worried that
On the one hand, I'm old enough that I understand I understand
Their struggle with this in a sense that I

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Think they're worried right I think they're worried that they're gonna have to explain to the kids like look sometimes like people are gay and what that means is this that they like people
Of the same sex, okay, and I think they're worried that their kids are then gonna think oh maybe I'm gay and then they're gonna turn gay
And I think they're worried about that because they're because what I'm saying is
Sometimes that's a more difficult road to navigate in life in America especially that I think they're worried about that of vessels

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That there's nothing that goes on within you. It's just all downloaded
That's what I don't understand about if you have to think about are you talking about because like I knew what I knew what being gay was when I was a young kid
Because we used to make fun of each other and call each other gay and stuff. Yeah, right and I never once was like

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What's he I wonder if I should be gay like I just it's just you're it's either gay or not
I mean they act like this is a choice. I think it might be a choice for some people where they're bisexual and they're fighting it
And they're fighting and we got a deal with their struggle of it. Yes, and they're really upset by it. Yeah
I'm really sorry that you have that struggle, but that's not the struggle for everybody

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It's such a weird thing to me. I also think there's a place to I
I don't know I feel that way about it like 99% of it. There's a small part of me that understands how they're like
Look, I'm just trying to go see a dizzy movie my kids. I don't want to make this some fucking teaching lesson

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But then I'm also like what kind of fucking insulated life do you live that you don't have to explain anything to your kids?
But I also think like but why the fuck is Disney like throwing all these fucking
Adult conversations into these kids movies like I don't know like so I kind of get it in a little bit
But I'm also like I think you guys are being over dramatic about it too if anybody has seen Bridgerton

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Which I suggest you do is probably the season one of Bridgerton. Okay
Is one of the sexiest fucking shows I've ever seen in my life, but it one of the main
Problems that the main female character goes through is that

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Her mother did not get her prepared for life. Okay, and because of that she was easily
Swade from things
So it was like she didn't understand sex she didn't understand how babe where babies came from and this is like this is happening now

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I have a friend who
When you're in an insulated like religious
I don't know what I don't want to say cold because that sounds shitty, but like
When you're too hyper focused that sex is bad and there's no conversations that can be had it

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Put your children at a disadvantage of
People taking advantage of them and their naive their naivety
You know what I mean?
Where it's like
Yes, is it uncomfortable?
Absolutely is it also part of life and you have to get these children prepared so her
In Bridgerton she was mad at her mom because she was like you got me fucking prepared for nothing and

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Now I'm in this situation where her husband was being
Was being
Not manipulative, but he didn't want a child and she did and blah blah blah
And so she was upset because she was like, why are you doing this?
I didn't and didn't understand why he would do something else

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Because he wouldn't come inside of her. I'll just say it. Oh, okay
He wouldn't come inside of her because he didn't want to have children because he made it his father
Yeah, she didn't get that like that was she was never gonna have a baby because of this because you know
Because it's like you have to have these fucking conversations and one of my friends who's
works if she's a

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I don't know he works in the medical field and
He has dealt with a couple of people that are very religious and that don't understand
How sex works at 20 fucking five years old that they think that
They don't understand where penis is go

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Do you see what I'm saying like this is crazy town?
Well, that that's I guess that's like a good what I'm trying to say when I say it like I kind of get
The struggle that parents have I think like I disagree with them
But I get what they're coming from like I'm not gonna poop with it. It's the same reason that like
If you have a Disney movie and there's I don't know if they would throw a sex scene in there and you could argue

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But well, that's just life you gotta figure out it's like no, it's inappropriate like little kids should be thinking about this yet when they're five years old
You know, but it's also like but like parents like you gotta tell your kids with sex is I don't know what age that is
I don't know I remember watching
Crazy move like didn't really have a whole lot of like kids movies in the 80s
Like they were just starting to come out with stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we would just watch movies

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Yeah, the parents would say cover your eyes when the
Tits came out when sex happened to a little peak around it was
Yes, a little peak between the thingies literally my mom would say to me cover your eyes. Did you cover your eyes?
Yes, did you look through your thingies?
Yes, I'm a pig
Yes, so like what scared I didn't look through my thingies you did scared

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So it's I guess it's a different of like growing up
Like like a kids movie was fast times at rich mod high. It was rapy. You know, they mean like Greece was a kids movie
Man you murdered somebody then sold me an album about how you murdered somebody get the fuck out of here. You fucking asshole

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Yeah, exactly where was all that where was all of that when he was talking about murder
I would argue that I would argue that selling me on a life of drugs and murder was cool is much more dangerous than showing me two gay people on the screen
Call me crazy
I love that he's clutching his pearls now. He's such a fuck up. I

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I
gave him a little bit of space when he was at the
Trump fucking crypto party or whatever I was like whatever dude even though he like is an asshole
But I'm just like dude. I don't know how many times you have to like do some shit that disappoints me before I'm like you're a fucking loser dude
Does he even make music anymore?
The only thing I liked about him was I loved his weird relationship with Martha Stewart. I

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Loved that oh the mark the Martha Stewart thing was my favorite, but that's clever
It's lovely. I don't know. It's lovely. But anyways, it's such a damn thing. He was one of my favorite rappers
But now it's like every come earn on my bro. How much shit do you got to sell man?
I mean, I don't mind somebody making some money, but then when you're when you go to this direction of being like

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I don't know
Well anyway, and do I think I just think that I
Look at children is like
Little human beings
Where they're not to be wrapped in bubble wrap you have to get them prepared for what adulthood looks like and so you do it

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In the sense of you start getting them
Like you wouldn't give them all of the groceries all at once you wouldn't if you're unpacking a car full of groceries
You don't load up your five-year-old with 30 different bags and have them walk into the
Walk into the house with all the bags, but you do give them little bite-size

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bags like the smallest lightest bag you give it to them so that they can walk in in so that when they're older they understand
They're not trying to figure it all out all by themselves at fucking 25
You have to teach them along the way in little increments and that means that
Unfortunately, you're gonna have to fucking talk to your kids like this is the weirdest thing for me to get them prepared to function in life

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Why is that bad? I don't understand why that's bad look at it like a science project you have this little tiny person and
Parents in their head are like I want them to have a better life than I have but
That thought process then turns to I'm gonna bulldoze every problem out of their way and make life as leisurely as possible

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so they have this weird
Experience that nobody fucking has where they don't have any problems and everything is just lovely and it's like cool
So now when life fucking comes and kicks him in their throat
How are they supposed to know how to handle any of that?
It doesn't make any sense but you have to deal with the bullies you have to learn how to have like

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relational conflict and resolution as a child like those are the things that you learn that gives you
The self esteem to handle the bigger problems as you age
That's how you fucking learn
Quit being such crybabies about it. It's fine that your kid has to go through something hard because life is hard
seeing two same-sex couple

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In a show isn't any different than seeing a same-sex couple in life
Who gives a fuck so say yeah, they love each other. I don't know moving on
Mm-hmm. Why is it even have to be anything besides that you're up to talk about anything else
It's just weird. They don't have to like graphically explain to them what their sex lives are. Yeah, that's weird

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It is weird just tell them they love each other. I don't know. They want to build their lives together
Moving on
So little Nas X. Yes, he so
Going back to where they started he has all that my my beef with him
Not to put my like red mega hat on here. Mm-hmm. Was like he
Was a kids role model because that his song hit heavy on the kids

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Charter whatever the hell okay, and his handlers were like now you're gonna write a kid's book because you got all these kids that follow you now
Okay, okay cool then like the next month. He's releasing videos of him
Doing like this working on doing the splits on Satan's dick. Yeah, I like bro
Yeah, like that's like that's reason for parents to be like hey, what the fuck is this shit? I agree with that

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Kids listen to this shit. Yes, like that's fucked. Okay. I agree that is that is it
We both agree with that. That's a line too far one point to Maga
You guys get a point today gold star today because we agree great
so
Anyway, but they all fucking did that eat look at all of the Disney stars. Yeah every Disney star was clean and whatever

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You know like the girl next door thing and then at some point they horrid up and they start being all slutty
Yeah, which I mean to me I
Think that that's wild
Well Lil Nas X didn't take that same trajectory. But then I also a child actor. He just
Was famous out of nowhere

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There's rumors that he isn't really gay that he was forced to put on that persona
Have you ever seen an interview with little Nas X? I don't know. He does very well
If he's not if he's faking it, he's phenomenal
Anyway, he was on the news. Did you see he got arrested last weekend? Oh, no. Yeah, so

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Let's see here
I got some news to read to you
Okay, but let's what about Peewee Herman what about him? Well Peewee Herman was gay
Okay
And he did kid stuff and his stuff was actually not for kids, but he kept it he kept it like

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And he kept it in the closet right which is why I don't think he got such pushback
I think people are worried that they're and I don't agree with this people are worried that they think that these gay
celebrities are grooming their kids to become gay also
Like they're trying to I don't know

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I
Don't I don't think those things so I don't understand the motivation there why they think it but that's what they think they think
Well my kids look up to this guy and if he's gay then I'm gonna be like well, maybe I'm gay and we're trying to tell a child to do something
They don't fucking listen
Kids are so yeah, but celebrities are influential

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If a celebrity is wearing a certain pair of sunglasses all the kids that follow and need those sunglasses
So there's argument to be had there
um
Well, you loved rapping the 90s that did that make you become a drug dealer and uh no no there was a limit um
You know it

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Boy George was popular in the 80s that that make you question if you wanted to subit it. I didn't like I didn't like boy George
You did love Tom you did love Tom Cruise and you love top gun
And that was pretty gay. It was very gay did that make you feel like you wanted to
Twork on Satan's dick. No, not at all

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So maybe but I think my I think my dad was worried about that kind of stuff and that's why he was like
Trying to be like now look at these playboys. Don't you love tits? And I like yes dad. I do love tits
You probably think god because I think he was worried about that and not because he was a homophobic person
But I mean you gotta understand the boomer generations, right? Yeah, they're homophobic. They're like homophobic on a certain level

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But it's not because he's like oh, I hate gay people. It was no I think it's like I'm worried about you having to have a hard life
Because for them that was like that was a dangerous life
You couldn't be gay and out and about it like that. That was dangerous. You could get murdered. You get murdered
You would lose your job. You could lose your apartment. Yeah, it was very very scary
Mm-hmm
Mm-hmm. Anyhow, so Lil Nas X

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He little let's see here
Do-do-do
He was seen on Wednesday afternoon
That ain't afternoon. It was at night. The Brady Spears is on Instagram
Naked with knives doing weird dances in her mental illness
Mm-hmm. I mean are we concerned with the children with that?

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What about all the school shootings? Are we nervous that we have our children in schools that get shot up constantly?
I mean is that a concern? Apparently not
I just want to know what the level is like where's our levels in this country of being like they're more scared of
Their kid during gay than their kid getting shot is what if it was like?
I will that's what it kind of seems like. I don't know if that's the truth or not

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But I'm like, you know as a person that doesn't have children
Um that I watch and I see what people are really like losing their fucking cool over
I'm like wow that seems like not that big of a deal considering that your children are getting shot in fucking class
Yeah, cuz I cuz I think about that too cuz I I'm not like
Like I'm a pro second amendment guy, but I think if we had a kid going to school

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I would be worried about that because it's in the news all the time of kids getting shot up in schools
Well, they literally like when I was a kid we used to have like drills of like earthquakes
earthquake drills because we live in and Utah there's a fault. No
and um
Now they're having school shooting drills
Yeah, so

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You know and all of your children are riddled with fucking anxiety and mental health disorders
probably from this specific thing because that
You had more of a chance of getting shot in your school
Been of a earthquake happening
You know yeah

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What's our worries, you know should we just get them through their childhood without being
Mamed and murdered
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He was seen on Wednesday afternoon
Wandering into and out of a Hollywood hotel removing his shirt in the process

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Then in the pre-dawn hours of Thursday. That's the video clip going around online
The musician was filmed wearing only his underwear and cowboy boots while singing in roaming the streets
He instructed the person recording not to be late to the party tonight
Before noting it's going to be a beautiful sunrise
He later put an orange traffic cone on his head

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After multiple calls replaced to report the situation
arrived on the scene
Public information officer told page six at low nasex
allegedly charged at the responding officers with a
Allegedly punching an officer in the face
He was transported to a local hospital for a possible overdose and placed under arrest for battery on a police officer

(32:47):
Which by the way
Today he got his bail notification and he's got four felonies for assault on an officer
Okay
Says he was transported to a local hospital for a possible overdose and oh yeah, I told you that in the hours leading up to the ordeal
Little nasex exhibited worrisome behavior on Instagram
Posting at least 11 photos of a disorganized house along with bizarre captions

(33:11):
The Grammy winner has been open about his drug use in the past previously confessing that he took psychedelic mushrooms while creating Monteiro
He also told variety that after the death of his grandmother in 2018 he self-medicated by
Smoking weed heavily
However, he added at the time, but then I started feeling more connected with the universe and taking everything as a sign

(33:33):
Now six months before he got arrested
So six months ago
he
Was hospitalized for an alleged drug related incident as well
And he was trying to tell his fans that things have been really difficult and he's been having a hard time

(33:55):
um
And he said he's tried he said he wanted to prioritize having fun this time around
Since he was overly focused on making the songs do well during the rollout of the 2021 album Monteiro
And he got and so anyway, so you had all this this whole like weird uh medical issue and it says
In April he was hospitalized after losing control of one side of his face

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He never disclosed the exact diagnosis, but assured his fans the paralysis was only temporary
And in a different article I found
Uh
Amanda on my patreon chat dropped the link to this one
Uh says he'd been diagnosed with partial facial paralysis

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He explained that he suddenly lost control of the right side of his face
He didn't confirm the exact cause many fans speculated bells paulzy
Weeks later Nas offered an update reassuring supporters that he was on the road of recovery
Though he admitted his left eye
Still needed catch up and that he was actively working on strengthening his facial muscles

(35:04):
Hmm. There's a lot of weird things with this whole story
So first
There was some predictive programming because
He was arrested and put in a jail cell for
Assaulting the officers this weekend, but in 2021 he had there's a 23
He had a music video with jack harlow called industry baby

(35:27):
And it depicts him and jack harlow in prison
Okay, and it's uh, you know he's
It's kind of wild because it's little Nas ex-dance a naked in the showers of the bunch of dudes
No and walking around the they're holding his pocket, you know
Holding little Nas ex's pocket uh-huh

(35:49):
And then
Jack harlow's in the video too and you're you gotta think like what is he little who he is
He's that white dude
I think he's corny. I don't like him
Um, nila baby. Oh her too, but I know kill a baby. Oh, okay. He's fine. He's fine

(36:11):
I just think he's a I just think he's an industry plant too
I've been corrected online though. Why? His fans are very adamant that he's been working hard on a long time to for his rap career and I shouldn't
I shouldn't elude to him being some kind of industry plant
Okay

(36:32):
Okay, buddy, whatever you say. No, he's fine. I don't dislike his music
I just I think he's kind of corny myself. This is not my cup of tea
Anyway, uh, you have a very specific flavor that you like though
I do you do what's my flavor? Well like
Like rap rap

(36:55):
You don't like poppy rap
No, I don't do I know cuz I like poppy rap. I like stuff. I'm like oh, that's like a radio banger
You know what I mean like I like a radio a good radio song
you
Everything you listen to I'm like, oh, it's like so fucking much
Like it's too much for me, but you love it. Yeah
And I have a hard time I have a hard time with white rappers too

(37:21):
Like I'm hard on my hard on my white my white rappers
My brother's generation though
cuz it's like
The best white rapper is gotta be Eminem
But a very close second third fourth is the Beastie boys
Arguably better than Eminem
Okay

(37:41):
I mean, I just love the Beasties. They're so good. Yeah, license the ill is a perfect owl
never
They're too good. They just never got in the they never got but they never got in that like vanilla ice no realm like they weren't even
close to being talked about
Weird huh
That's fucking weird. They were so early into the rap genre. Yeah, it's like they just went right out of the radar

(38:07):
or snow yeah, I like I actually you know snow that cool Jamaican sound from Canada
And I like to vanilla ice too. I think vanilla ice is a good rapper
I liked that stupid. What was his CD called to the extreme? That's right
Yeah, wait and then that was there another one was like play that funky music
That was the one of the other songs on there. Yeah, oh it was in a CD

(38:30):
No, that was the
I don't know it was pretty sure that was one of the tracks on to the extreme was called play that funky
music okay, wasn't that what wait a minute? I thought it was funky. Wait a minute. I think I think I'm I think you might be right hang on
um
vanilla ice because it was his second CD that came out to the extreme was the name of the album with ice ice baby

(38:50):
Okay, and I had the track play the funky music white boy. Okay, and then what was his second what was his second CD called
Mind blowing
There is one that was like kind of a horny song on one of his to the extreme was that it yeah, it was um
Oh, yeah life is just a fantasy

(39:12):
Did it did it did it did it he wrote on that beat too. That's such a good album to the extreme. It's like
You know people are programmable though. It's like he got shot on by the mainstream and everyone just dog piled
Um and I was like bro I I drawn vanilla ice in my room on the wall. I love them. That's why your dad that you were gay
Yeah

(39:33):
You're drawing vanilla ice I was like rolling in my 5.0
Yeah, life is just a fantasy did it did it did it did it did it in my dreams. I'm eating my stuff and the ocean beautiful girls
How do you remember all of that? Well, bit me down with the lotion
Yeah, great songs

(39:55):
Why are we talking about rap music? I don't remember
I just remember vanilla. I was shit on jack carlaw had a real horny song on on one of his CDs and I loved it
And I can't remember what is that the one I can hear is that the one no I don't think it's that oh
Yeah, my life is just a fan. Oh, yeah. Oh, maybe that is it. It had like a girl moan in the background. I was like oh

(40:27):
I have to really listen to it. I'll try and find I'll find it and then I'll put it on the
on insta
That would that would be the music the sound for this one this episode
Let's see if it's on there. It's Brian. I even on there. I'm gonna find it. That's hilarious. Okay
But yeah, I'm not a huge act carlo fan. He's fine. I mean there's a couple the one he had with push dice

(40:51):
He was a great song. What was it called?
Black vans or something?
That was a great song. I just you know for me. I'm like
I feel a little out of inauthenticity and I'm like now
And that's how I feel like you like machine gun Kelly. I do like him. I like him
But then he had beef with San Tripoli so now I can't be a fan anymore, but I think he's super talented

(41:15):
Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, but why he was great wrapping. He was so good as a rapper and then
People like oh, I've been killed him. I won't rap again. I don't know about that, but
Then he was great at his emo album was great and then he's got this pop album now and I've just heard a couple tracks. It sounds pretty good. I don't know

(41:36):
Okay, you're just inconsistent. It's fine. Whatever
Sometimes the heart wants what it wants. We know maybe there's something I have a I have a
six cents for
Who I think is
authentic
And I feel like machine gun Kelly's authentic. How he's changed every fucking genre and he's tried done every

(42:00):
Every single different type of music. Yeah, that's fair. He is corny
He's super corny like when he broke that
Champagne fluid on his head trying to be like a punk like a very punk rock thing. I was like that's corny dude
Yeah, he got on Sam Tripoli made fun of them and then did you dare to tell you this?
Sam trip he went to a show in LA and Sam was on stage and Sam like

(42:25):
Fun of them tease them and then in the then they had someone at video in the back room
He approached Sam and was like talking shit sound like what the fuck dude. It's a comedy show. I'm like you're that's fragile man
Well sounds like
Every other man out there
Fair to shit

(42:48):
I got yelled at because I watched some fucking idiot
tried a
Parallel park his big dump truck and almost hit my fucking car
And I stared at him and this fucking
Me and Isaac was taking bets on how tall this guy was and I was right. He was a short king
But he falls out of his fucking jacked up truck

(43:11):
Which by the way, he did not know how to parallel park. He didn't he was terrible at it
We were in daybreak Utah, which is where all the celebrities live having some pizza with tuna
And this guy in Pratchapelo park
And he damn it. He's smashing to our car. They're like wrong. What the fuck?
So I just sat there and watched him with like oh you're gonna hit my fucking car look and uh

(43:34):
I should have got out there and like
Like you know like I would have got under a skin for sure
What did that have been hilarious? So if I would have like went over there and was like oh like
Telling him to turn his wheel
Like turn your wheel real hard and I'll go back get out. Let me do it. No, you're girl can stay in the passenger seat

(43:54):
Let me show her how real man parks and anyways. He was driving he was like gun it
He gunned it almost hit the fucking car. It's because he was gunned it because when he was parallel parking
He didn't want to get close to the curb because he was hitting the curb when he had like get it up up onto the curb
We'd end up parking with two wheels on the curb
What a fucking weirdo dude. Anyways, he jumped out his girlfriend saw me staring at them because I wasn't making it not obvious

(44:19):
I was full on fucking staring at them and
She told her boyfriend there she was watching us where she's staring at so he was like it's more the show
I'll fucking brood it. I'm like okay
But he jumped out and guess what he was like five six so
So an end shorter than me

(44:42):
But the the funniest part is he had two lines not sheep stickers on the back of this truck, you know all of the fragile
That's hilarious
the fragile man
Akutra ma
Because the guy the lion's not sheep guy blocked me one time and I'll never forget it
And I was like this guy's fragile as fucking baby shit

(45:02):
Because I was defending a lady on there who was talking about her kids handicap
I was like yeah dude why you mean fucking mean to this lady and you fucking block me like what a fucking pussy
This guy selling arena tickets to tell men how to be men
He's got some unreal just buying that ticket already says you're not a man

(45:25):
You're cucked immediately immediate cuck
Buying that ticket is an immediate like crazy. That's what I would think even if I was trying to be a how to be a man
I'd be like I can't pay to go to a arena full of losers. I can't get laid
Of other men telling me how to be a man
That is the weirdest fucking idea and you guys love it. They love it the male only in the set of dynamics of thing

(45:48):
I shouldn't shit on it. I might be there one day. I don't know my therapist said I
I am suffering from male loneliness epidemic
So who the fuck am I to judge I might be there I someday I might be given a little lecture like guys. I used to be a pussy too
Vince Sean Whalen taught me how to be a man

(46:09):
So little nazex had his left eye facial paralysis. Yeah. Do you remember another celebrity that had the same problem
No, Justin Bieber's had face no, I didn't know that you remember his eye he had a lazy eye and because he had facial paralysis

(46:29):
No, I don't know this at all. Oh people make a whole meme avatars of the
Because he did a video and you could see it like his eyes like all crazy
What people like they'll make their avatar that image of him with his eye all crazy
Okay, you keep talking I'm yeah, it was back and you know Justin Bieber's always had this sort of back and forth with losing sanity

(46:52):
And you know going back to because I wasn't a big Bieber fan and I'm not but
When he was on the comedy central roast
I felt sympathy for the guy. I was like dude this kids going through some shit
And then you saw the video of
Then then we saw the video of P. Diddy alluding to like

(47:19):
Hangin out with Bieber all weekend for a Lamborghini or whatever the hell he said he was doing
I was like, oh damn he Bieber got
Yeah, I got into some stuff
Yeah, then he was crying in that one interview over like what Billy Eilish or something
Like this guy's been through something yeah
And now he's doing all kinds of weird stuff and so was little Nas X what the hell is going on in Hollywood

(47:44):
I think everybody knows now
well
It was kind of same old you know, Hollywood conspiracy celebrity star goes crazy whatever right okay, but then
She hit me with a
article that had this really weird concept about the all-seeing eye

(48:05):
Now it's connected into the movie Dune or the story Dune and a Drain of Chrome listen to this
Are you ready for this?
Wait till you hear this
I just got a zoom in so I can read the fucking thing
Oh my god hang on dude am I getting old? I can't see

(48:26):
Okay, I can't see either
I think I have to get readers
I'm gonna be like one of those people that have glasses and then have my readers over my glasses
It's like double treble see nothing man
Until I get my
What are those called bifogals
So I don't know who wrote this article where it comes from I just got a screenshot

(48:50):
So this is what it says in the Dune world there is a substance called spice
Spice is a drug that provides long life
Pre-cognition and allows for genetic memory
It's so addicting that if you stop taking it you die therefore anyone who takes the drug becomes a puppet
For whoever controls the drug
This is what resulted in the most famous quote of the series he who controls the spice controls the universe

(49:13):
We all know how they communicate to each other with pop fiction
Could spice be alluding to a Drain of Chrome?
It is said that a Drain of Chrome is the most addicting drug in the world
It is said that a Drain of Chrome lengthens one's lifespan
Is said that a Drain of Chrome can be used to harness genetic memory
it
It found it interesting that the guy who researched pre-cognition happened to have the last name of

(49:39):
Dunn do you N N E
Seriously done
coincidence
Could a Drain of Chrome in our world be the spice of doom?
Could it be that whoever controls the supply of a Drain of Chrome in our world
Would be the one who rules in our world could our politicians Hollywood actors musician judges police chiefs
In certain districts

(50:02):
Okay, and world leaders around the globe be addicted to a Drain of Chrome and this is why they are so willing to submit to the
Blue and whites who controls the supply of a Drain of Chrome via their blood sacrifice of children
If you take spice your eyes begin to turn a bright blue
And this allows people to know you're addicted and that you'll do anything for them if they have spice to offer and you are in need of it

(50:28):
Because of this those who are addicted to spice will often wear contacts to conceal the fact that they can be blackmailed in this way
Okay, here's where we get to the parto
Want to talk about
One of the most famous scenes is when one of the main characters loses a contact revealing his blue eye and his spice addiction
To attempt to hide this fact he covers one eye with his hand

(50:50):
Covering one eye could this be why the illuminati puppets cover one eye
Is it a sign that allows others to know they're in the market for spice and are willing to do anything to get some more
Sounds like the narrator for ancient aliens doesn't it?
Sounds like it

(51:14):
That's exactly what he said
Why does he talk like that? Do you imagine ancient aliens guy talking about Jews and stuff?
Could it be that six million didn't die?
Whoa, hey
Come on history channel
Anyway, so there is

(51:36):
You know one theory about this whole thing with the eye and the adrenal chrome now listen to this
Yahoo, believe in adrenal chrome
What do we say do I believe in it? Yeah, not a hundred percent, but there's room to believe it. Yeah
What's the room?

(51:57):
Because and I don't know what it looks like the pizza fucking shit pizza gate or whatever the fuck I
Just think I mean there's a lot of
Claims made that this thing exists and there is a weird thing because like we always try to wrap our heads around like
Why they always messing with the kids these are rich people like you want to fuck them, but why maybe it's more than that is what I'm saying

(52:20):
Like maybe it's more than just that
Like maybe they you know because sometimes the they uh
I don't know I just feel like I just feel like there's room for that to be a thing and I don't know how it works
I don't know if it's literally a
Extract they pull from the from their brains and then they eat it. I don't know if it's all that that might be extreme

(52:45):
I don't know if I believe frazzle drip stuff. What's frazzle drip
Supposedly Hillary cuts off the faces of kids and where's their mask like leather face from Texas chainsaw to absorb their adrenal chrome
Okay
So
Whatever
But hey gillain said the Clintons are innocent and so is trump. So I guess they're all off the hook now. Did you see that I saw that

(53:11):
Sounds like they're all just great. Oh gillain whatever you say partner
But I do think there might be something to
The fear of like
scaring kids that can harness that as some kind of energy or something. I don't know. I don't I've never seen proof of any of

(53:33):
How exactly this works, but I I feel like there's something there
You know, and I could be totally wrong of course
Okay, I just feel like I feel like there's something there. I don't know what it is
Or how deep the rabbit hole or how deep that goes okay
Or if they I it could be as simple as that that shunomatism thing that

(53:54):
Kubrick had underlined in
That book I bought
It would this idea of that that's something that really happens is like
People think that they can leech the energy from young virgins so they want to lay on them and lay with them
But you can't fuck them. No, you're not supposed to
But maybe there's a line of thought that like well you could and then you get even more. I don't know

(54:18):
You ground that energy or whatever
Okay, these people are into some wild stuff. So I don't put it past
You know, they believe in human sacrifice some of these people
Why wouldn't they believe in a dream of chrome?
They believe in Chinese people believe in grinding up bolt uh ride o' horns because they can make their dick hard

(54:38):
I mean people do weird stuff. Okay
Now Yahoo said something really ominous about this whole thing they said
From his shocking arrest to an alleged overdose scare jale time and mounting concerns from those closest to him
Lil Nas X's recent troubles paint a picture of a star at a crossroads

(54:59):
Dundundund
Across roads. That's uh referencing selling one soul to the devil
Which is what I think we've talked about it on this show
About Lil Nas X a couple years ago. We did
In fact, let me put some links in the show notes
Because I think we did a whole show talking about a dreamer chrome didn't we? I don't remember

(55:21):
I'm gonna put no I think we did back in like
2021 I feel like it was one of the first ones. All right. I'll put links in the show notes for people
That's why it's not fresh in my mind
Okay, I feel like we did if there's shows I'll put a links in the show notes if you're on patreon
Go to the index and then do a control f search or I'll do it for you. I'll just post it for you

(55:45):
I'll do the extra steps from a patreon folks. Okay
So so the question is like who did Nas Lil Nas X piss off?
Is
Is this humiliation ritual stuff?
We don't have to piss somebody off to have to do that right like it's like just the right a passage
Well, I say that because last year he released a new album called j christ

(56:09):
Hmm, remember this no super blasphemous. He had all these images of him dressed up like Jesus and on a cross and taking communion and
him dresses Jesus holding like machine guns and
He acted like he wasn't trying to make a statement about religion
Because everyone started roasting him

(56:31):
I mean especially this is comes off the hills of him doing the whole satanic shoes his blood in it and twerking on satan
Yeah, and all that stuff and then he he didn't
He got roasted for this and then he apologized. He made this whole apology tour about
about the

(56:51):
How he wasn't trying to be offensive and all this stuff. It's like you clearly were though. Yeah
So I think something happened because you notice have you heard of low Nas X song in a couple of years
probably not
So I think he's done something and he's got to
You know go through the trials and tribulations the humiliation ritual as they say

(57:15):
Or something like that or it's it's
related to this adrenochrome thing maybe
Because maybe when you're young and you're into the circles they teach you the secrets of the adrenochrome
They're like look you want to stay looking young forever. So here's how you do it
Maybe he's going through withdrawals
And that's why he's got the facial paralysis

(57:37):
Just theories crazy. I know I know they're crazy. I'm not saying the true
I'm just saying these are the theories that are out there are out there. Okay
So well, what if they're just all doing some weird fucking drug that's giving them facial paralysis
And it's not adrenochrome
And it's not a humiliation ritual. It's just

(57:59):
kind of a weird batch of cocaine
Well, yeah, I guess so I mean that's an option too. Yeah, okay could be I mean they do drugs
I don't know it's probably the adrenochrome though. For it's the adrenochrome
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What did he say plugged into a socket an electrical socket
Yeah, he'll be plugged into that electrical socket. That's right
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Talking about this go on to josey's patreon chat and

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I'm thinking we do the podcast logo on the front
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(01:00:25):
And this is gonna mean anything to you, but I gotta explain it all okay. I think
Just before really put a little bow on little nose x. Uh-huh. I wonder if he just wasn't
being
Abused
It could be that too
Hit it. I mean like now that we've seen the p-ditty thing now that we you know, I mean like now everybody's

(01:00:48):
We all know the Epstein shit. We all see how these
people
work and
What was that documentary we watched the Nickelodeon one yeah that Nickelodeon one
Yeah
Quiet on set it was go like and then there's a
A couple of handful of other things were like okay, this is just kind of how this industry they are

(01:01:10):
abusive
emotionally and sexually to these people
they use that to
Let them in yeah
What if little nose x isn't gay though for real
He's gay, but it doesn't matter like you can just because your gay doesn't mean you're down for anything that you can be abused

(01:01:31):
You'll think you can still be abused and not do things and at doing stuff that you don't want done
Yeah
So you think maybe he was abused by some higher-ups? I
Maybe it could be I think these celebrities these these musicians and stuff
What seems to be the case is that they don't have as much money as we think they do
Yeah, which tells me they don't have we don't have they don't have as much power as we think they do

(01:01:55):
Which tells me they have to
Do what they're told I mean it's like every artist ever says it's like once you're in the system you're a slave
You know, I mean so I prince wrote it on the side of his face and changed his name to a symbol. I mean
It's a pretty common trope it seems like right yes people say like it's not worth it and

(01:02:16):
You know
Interesting okay, Roseanne so Roseanne bar
She's an interesting person she is she is
What's her she talks? I think she's pretty vocal about like her mental health right?
I think so I don't follow her that intensely. Okay. I was never a big fan

(01:02:37):
I didn't really watch her show like that. Oh you didn't like Roseanne the show it was okay. It was fine
I love Roseanne. We used to watch that all the time. Yeah, I didn't I didn't love it. It was fine. No
But didn't you like about it? It's like I didn't like it. It just wasn't
I don't know why just wasn't really into it. I felt like Roseanne was in the same

(01:02:58):
vein of married with children. I love married with children
Why
Oh, well I thought
It might be more male gazing maybe it was like more for like men
Because like buddh- or buddh was funny. I like buddh-bundy, you know, a lot of misogyny. He was a perv

(01:03:24):
That was fine. It was fine, but albundy was hilarious
He was hilarious though. I don't know. I had to watch it again. I haven't seen it in 30 years. It was like he had shirts. He hated
Peg was hot. Peg had big tits out constantly. Yeah. All that bitch wanted to do is fuck

(01:03:46):
fucking ugly
What was his name? Albundy? Albundy
Shitty Alb losing his hair, Bundy, who sold shoes and pegged to hung out smoke and cigarettes waiting to fuck him
And he hated her
Did he hate her little? He never wanted to fuck her

(01:04:06):
He always like that always like really bummed him out to have to go fuck his wife. Didn't I don't remember that
What? How did you watch this show? I watched almost every episode. He had shirts that said no ma'am
He was in a club. Yeah, I remember no ma'am
He what the fuck it was like if they weren't young

(01:04:27):
He didn't want nothing to do. He liked the young hot blondes, which also was his daughter
Oh, that's creepy. Yeah, it is fucking creepy. I haven't I I watched it as a child, so I don't know all those things
Probably went over my head. Uh-huh. I don't remember the details there
Who doesn't want a fuck peg

(01:04:48):
Albundy apparently. Yes, why is that weird? Is that how it went? I got I got to watch that again because I don't remember that at all
She always wine. Ow
Like she always wanted to fuck him
Weird it's weird. I got to watch that again. Alright. Is that how it went? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. Was the last time you watched it
I don't know I have watched it since I was a kid since I was like fucking 13

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No, I watched it since I was 13
Ha
But I was just like that's weird, right? And he like I thought they were I thought I thought they would go upstairs and like
I thought that was part of it. Sometimes he would be excited about it
But sometimes he would always act like he was put out like he just didn't want nobody to fuck with him
He wanted to sit on the couch and watch his hands on his pants. Put his hands on his pants. That was it

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And she would sometimes force him. I think sometimes he would be a little giddy, but not all the time
Yeah, because I feel like there was times when when they would chase each other up the stairs. Yeah, I remember a few times of that
But then sometimes it was like he didn't
Huh
We're gonna have to rewatch this and see if my memories are wrong. Yeah, no, okay

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Because we watched this as children where so like half of the jokes went over my head. I'm sure let's rewatch it
Watch the whole series. Okay done. How many seasons are those guys? I don't know if I'm gonna watch all of them many
Yeah, that's too much. They were married to children
But we'll watch if let's watch a few in this get the vibe because I don't know
Kelly was hot
Man, yeah, that was a great show. Kelly was hot. She was so cute. Yeah, I like Jefferson. Jefferson always made me laugh

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Steve wasn't Marcy. Did you like Marcy? Yeah, I'm a Marcy in Jefferson
When Marcy was with Steve, I didn't really like Steve that much
But when she switched over to Jefferson, I I love it. What happened to Steve? Do you remember? I don't remember
We got to rewatch the show. I just remember all said Jefferson was there. I was like who's this fucking guy
Yeah, but then he would make me laugh
All right, what else was Jefferson and he was in something else. I think he was like the bad guy on revenge of the nerds

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I don't know. He looks like it. I can't remember enough, but I felt like he like feel like he was
Okay, okay, that's good. Okay, we're gonna rewatch it. Go ahead anyway. So
Roseanne so Roseanne she's got a podcast. I
I don't follow her. I don't really know much about her. Okay
But I noticed it on rumble, which is a very you know

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It's a video network where anything goes got it now spoiler alert later on I find out
This same episode and her whole podcast is also on YouTube again adding to the perplexity of my
Curiosity of the my shan rumble. I don't know
Okay, how does she get away with saying the shit that she's talking about? Well, what is she saying? Well, we'll talk about her all right

(01:07:42):
Typically sort of like Q a non stuff. Okay, vaccines or fake and all this stuff, right? Okay, I'm not saying they're not just she has
Mental health issues. Oh, totally okay, so I go and so I'm on the rumble to do upload something and then I'm like oh,
So is this because Roseanne bar and
Bishop Larry Gators is on there. Oh, and you don't like him. I don't like him. I never did. Okay, and I was justified in my

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untrusting of him and we'll get it into that
But what's interesting is that on her
Show description. I'm gonna unpack the show. I listen to the whole stupid fucking thing
But on her description she her so like people have to understand when you are posting
Show notes whether that be on YouTube or a podcast or whatever the golden rule of

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Copywriting they call copywriting, you know writing copy
The golden rule is the top line the very first thing that the above the fold is what they call that
the first thing on there is the most powerful thing there so
for me like I'll put
Like when I open up a cult symbolism.com to sell this great coffee and shirts and stuff

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I'll put that link at the very top of my show notes. So it's the first thing people see
Because it's important to me right now because I'm like they got to know where all my stuff is because I moved it from my
Gumroad store now it's on a cult symbolism.com. So as a
Business person I'm like they got it. That's the first thing
Before I even tell them what's on the episode before I tell them here's a link to my other shows talking about it before any of that

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Bullshit like that's the most important thing. So what's her most important thing above the fold first line
The wellness company a link to the wellness company. Okay
Which is priceless because I literally just interviewed a guy named seven seas
Who has this giant data map and he's exposing
How all of these content creators these right-wing content creators Theo Vaughn Joe Rogan

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Uh people I love dearly house and hamper
I like all these people. I don't like Theo Vaughn
Joe Rogan still got love for him
You know if that he he entered do you see he interviewed that guy you like on tiktok that does the folk music
I did see that and I did listen to it. He's okay. He can fuck all the way

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He's not okay. He'll have Bernie Sanders on one day and
Some fucking right-wing blowhard on the next
No, he's all right. He is not he makes me want to vomit every time I fucking see his big dumb round dumb fucking head
I don't feel that way good. I hope you in every other man out there can circle jerk around Joe Rogan. I don't give a fuck

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So anyway
There's a company called Colson cap. I learned all this from seven seas who
That's my latest episode on my feed if people are interested to check it out
In fact you probably like why is it why you make this easy and put a link in the show notes
I'll do that
And then most people are like what are show notes? I've never clicked on anything or looked at your notes. Literally that's me

(01:10:54):
That's not most people are they're like I don't look at anything. I just play it play like damn it look in the show notes
I got out more grift and you got a look in the show notes for the grift
Okay, anyways, so
Colson capital is the name of this umbrella company and under them is multiple companies one of which is the wellness company
Okay, the wellness company sells supplements. Okay

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And like that's the
Right wing. That's the grift of all griffs. This is a bureaucracy
Favorite thing absolutely. Okay. It's a six billion dollar industry. Okay
Big pharma the one we always say is the ultimate evil is one billion
So you tell me who it's a month which one's more powerful? Okay, right because as a conspiracy people we say

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Don't trust big pharma
There's a lot of sus
Activity going on and that's right and that is correct. There is a lot of sus activity. However
We'd be foolish to say there's no sus activity happening in the supplement industry right
And to be fair we buy a lot of supplements. So like I'm I am pro supplement

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Mm-hmm we do I buy hundreds of dollars of supplements a month
That's why we got the mushroom coffee because I try to find the best mushroom supplementation
And this is the best way to do is through the extraction process
so
This isn't me saying we'll fuck these truthers for selling supplements to you there. A bunch of crooks. No, I'm not saying that
I'm just saying this is how the game is played. Okay, all right

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And so this colson capital they've got other companies like ze labs which is
This doctor of latimer is a lanko
He was pushing
This is he got so all right
Another one is 1775 coffee and if people listening are like oh shit. I always hear about these all my favorite people talk about these

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Because they're all getting funding from this colson capital. Okay, which has pretty deep pockets
Okay, and it comes from a guy named false foster colson and
Foster colson
He's a nepo baby his his family comes from money. So he has money to begin with. Okay
They were in some kind of firefighting business or something

(01:13:12):
Anyways, it all started like fire like fires. Yeah, fire like those. Okay. I didn't know that was lucrative, but
apparently it is
So he
During the pandemic at the early days
He met up with doctors a lanko who was
Kind of pushing the Joe Rogan cocktail

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Hey, you got to take this hydrochloroquine. You got to take the iver mechden. You got to take the vitamin D
Anything but the stabby do not take that stabby
Your the body should fight this off. Okay
And foster colson's like
I got to make money off this is just too good
So he starts wellness. Okay

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So and this is where it's like this is where it gets dicey. Okay
And and the pandemic is a perfect example of how this goes down. Okay
Well, people need to understand they obviously believe whatever they want to believe
We have our beliefs in this household
but and I personally and I've always been

(01:14:19):
More anti stabby than pro stabby, but I ultimately say it's kind of up to you
Like if you got health problems
Maybe someone in your home has immune problems like maybe you should take it
Like this is a you quite you think the answer right the state has zero place telling you or mandating you take it
But this is a choice you should make for yourself. Yes
So like I'm anti, but also not like ultra anti where a lot of these people are ultra and it's like

(01:14:45):
They'll say if you took the stabby you're
Literally out showing the other day. Oh, I got I got proof folks if you took the stabby
You're gonna die by 2028. It's it's a fact
You guys are just outrageous because they he's been saying that for years. Okay everyone everyone
Five billion people to get five billion people are dead next week

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I like okay sounds good buddy. It's like these people are fucking insane too. Yeah
But like I'm saying there's a middle ground there which is
Understandable yeah
Like no, they didn't do enough testing like this is some weird shit
Is it helpful maybe
Maybe it's helpful for people maybe people have a new problems and they need to take it. I don't know

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It's not my goddamn business. You make that choice
But the problem is you're not a doctor and you can't read medical journal shit
Like if anybody tries to read a study
You'll get about two fucking sentences in and you're like what the fuck are we even talking about like it's very dense
It's very you have to have
Education in that and and this is where the grift comes and this is where it gets dangerous

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And this is where I lose a lot of respect for some of this stuff. Okay, because some of these people do entire shows and lecture tours
Trying to tell you that well you see the stab he's got the mark of the beast in it and you're gonna turn into a devil
And you're gonna die so therefore
Buy my hydrochloroquine ivermectin cocktail. Yeah, that's pretty grotesque and I'm like

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I don't like that. I don't like people
Telling people what they should do with their health and scaring them into their answer and it's like well
Not every solution is the same solution for every person. It's a very complex
Uh, you know biological thing is going on
So false foster colson and zeleko they start making these sort of

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anti-woke customer base
Um through various personalities that they paid to do so that's and your date
Donald Trump junior Alex Jones
So on and so forth
arguably i believe
And this is just my belief in theory that my beloved joe rogan might be involved in this too. Okay

(01:16:55):
In fact, that's what seven c's points out on his data map that joe rogan is involved too
Involved how what do you mean? Do you remember when joe rogan got covid yes
The two big things stand out in my mind one
CNN showed a video of joe rogan
He posted a video on the socials. It was like everybody out covid. I'm taking all these medicines

(01:17:17):
I'm feeling okay. We'll see what happens
And CNN made the video green they tinted it green to make them look sicker. Okay, so it's like fuck you guys man
So like this is where like I put on my red hat
Yeah, and I stand where my truth is i'm like god damn social media bull or uh mainstream media bullshit. Yeah
But on the other hand, I look at and say

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joe rogan was like very much a proponent of like no one
No, he didn't he never said no one should take the stabby. I've heard him talk about it
And he was like this is a person he was more in the line than I am where it's like this is a personal choice. Yeah for him
He's like I
I prefer to make my body healthy enough to fight this thing. Okay, and he says
What I what I'll do is I'm going to take this cocktail of

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Ivermectin hydrochloroquine and monoclonal antibodies and shit and I'm like
Okay, so the problem with the stabby is it's like big form of frankincense
but monoclonal antibodies and all this other shit totally fine. Yeah, okay got it
So like a monoclonal antibody
Their lab created antibodies

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Okay, so in a fucking lab they make antibodies, which is sounds exactly like what a stabby does. Okay
And then it unleashes into your immune system to attack the virus. Okay, it's like what could go wrong there?
Sure
So colson and zellico they start this wellness company and they're hiring all these right wing influencers to

(01:18:45):
perpetuate that narrative of like you can't trust the news you can't trust the stabbies
You know what you can trust?
our quacky supplements. Yeah
And they hire dr. Drew Pinsky who turned out to be a grifter too. Yeah
Peter McCullough who was the very anti-stabby guy he was

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making many rounds talking about it
He uh yet he was the guy who had the patent for an mRNA vaccine
So it's like what the fuck are these guys doing? Yeah
So
Anyway the whole company the whole wellness company is aimed directly at QAnon type folks
Sure

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Which is ironic because Q
I mean
They're the ones that said COVID's a hoax
And then they're like oh then then it's just the flu you know right
Yeah, they're taking massive amounts of vitamin cocktails and iver mectin and horse parasites and
Monoclonal antibodies for something that doesn't exist or it's just the flu

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I mean it makes no sense none of this shit makes any sense to me. Yeah
I'm not saying who's right or wrong. I'm just saying that their shit doesn't make any fucking sense to me right
and
they
But anyway my point is that they are
perpetuating the anti-vax stuff

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To sell supplements. Okay. In fact, he started a dating website called
Unjected oh
My god pure blood pure bloods
So they don't have to have sex with people who got the stabby. I think that that sounds wonderful
And it's marketed through stupider's the guy who I talked about last week who was a wanted to be a rapper

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And then he found a way to grift people through conspiracy theories and telling people
demonic snake juice is in the water and that's what COVID is
Stick with your people. I mean that sounds good to me
So and then the CEO of wellness and so the the connection into the dark enlightenment
uh-huh

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That's dissolved with seven seas research pulled up the CEO wellness is a guy named Peter Galuli
And he was the VP of operations at a company called dust identity which is the ultimate plan for the dark enlightenment
it's
They basically take quantumized
diamond dust

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Which sounds expensive to me but
But they do this quantum diamond dust so that they can track and trace every single thing
That is sold
And this is very much
Larry think called it the tokenization of everything
Great reset book talks about this kind of thing this
Keeping everything on the blockchain and tracked through 5g and all this crazy shit, right?

(01:21:36):
So seven seas research. He's just like look
He doesn't have any like um
Silver bullet things where it's like oh here's the proof that all of these people are lying and that's the end of it
It's more of like if you follow the money you can see
How a lot of these people get paid a lot of money

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From the wellness company
so don't you think that
Maybe they have marching orders
To do this kind of stuff, right?
But this is where Sam Tripoli cut back and said just because I read ads for them doesn't mean
That is this the same guy? Yes, okay

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But I but I think it's like these advertisers know where
Their demographic is right aligned with what they're saying right
It's tricky it gets tricky for sure and now it was part of the conversation
We had where I'm like look man as a podcaster. I need sponsorships
Because the one because patrons great patreon it pays the bills

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But there's only so many people that are going to sign up for patreon. So I got to have sponsors
And luckily for me like I've got a sponsor that I believe in with my copy my crypto guy
Because I use his product and I like what he I like what he's valid if you're into investing, you know
Copy my crypto comm slash eyes and get him for a buck try for yourself

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And uh yeah, so
Can't stop will stop so if the wellness company approached me and I didn't know any better
I would probably look through their sight and be and say
You know I buy a ton of supplements. Yeah, maybe they give me a discount on supplements. I don't know. I advocate for supplements
I'll tell you I got a whole laundry list of supplements. I would tell people that I take yeah

(01:23:28):
Because I do believe in them. I really do. I got my blood work done
Two to three times a year to keep track of all this stuff and it really does work
Now how deep down that rabbit hole do I go not too deep? I mean we're talking like vitamin D and they be complex and you know
Normal shit generally Red East rice. Yeah, which is a little fringy

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But yeah, it's a little fringy because if you look at the
Medical documentation like the studies quote unquote the studies. I'll say that Red East rice does not work to lower LDLs
Okay, but it works for me
It does it does okay, but it's hard to know right? It's like is it the healthy diet? Is it the is it the exercise or is it all three in combination?

(01:24:10):
It's hard to know but like if your health is dialed in
Well, what sucks about it is you just got to gotta keep going what you're doing. Yeah
What I'm gonna play this game. I don't know. I'm just gonna take a lot of like fiber
Yeah, what is that called like metamusel? Yeah
I'm the healthiest husky boy you've ever seen
You are a lot right now. I'm my back hurts. I can't sit

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so
Anyway
Rose and I'm gonna talk to you about who Bishop Gators is okay later
Gator okay
So during this interview
Bishop Gators is calling Roseanne mom the whole time which is oh why fucking weird
Okay, they're weird it starts out and she says she's wearing a giant Q8 non hat

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Okay, and she says
And I quote Q a non are some deep digging researchers
And nobody's dug as deep as Larry Gators
And I'm like okay, we need to pause on that statement right off the bat. I thought the Q a non was like
The what was that called the it the forechan dork that's what the HBO documentary said

(01:25:37):
I don't know who Q is but I do know that they made a lot of calls of shit that never fucking happened
that since 2020 they were like
Trump's gonna round up the deep state pedophiles of Tom Hanks and Oprah Winfrey
And they're about to do the trials any day now
We're gonna have the 14 days of darkness blackout and that's when they're gonna go around and arrest all these pedophiles

(01:25:58):
JFK Jr
He's he's still alive
He's gonna take resume the president or whatever the fuck they said
I mean, they're insane people these are insane people okay proven wrong
So many times over they post cryptic shit
Q and I ruined all of conspiracy yeah, and the damage from that is almost unrecoverable

(01:26:22):
Anyway
So right out the bat I'm like okay Roseanne
Let's get you back to bed Roseanne sounds good
And this is where and this is where it goes this is the insidious component here. Okay. This is how you know
There's some weird conspiracy agenda between like QAnon which is your Mike Flynn

(01:26:44):
Hold right wing wellness company network. Okay. They it's it's remember that video from 2020 where all the news media is repeating the same thing verbatim
Joe Rogan's played it
Yes, yeah here at so and so news. Yeah, we don't like the idea fake news
Right they they all said of verbatim and that was the big thing there was like oh shit the mainstream media is just one media

(01:27:08):
right
Well, there's an alternative stream media and they will be coming out with the same voice and this is what I'm going to talk about
It's about Epstein they are trying to rebrand this whole Epstein thing
Because because Trump says it first and then they all sort of fall in line and repeat the lie
Yes, remember Trump's like there is no Epstein list

(01:27:29):
It's a democratic hoax and everyone said wait a minute bitch. What yeah, you literally were the one that ran on this
And then he's like then an expert. He's like kind of didn't though
It was his people though they did people did and Trump seemed to like two points from anger today
His people tried very Trump

(01:27:49):
Never really wanted to talk about it. He always was trying to skirt it because he's on it
So he didn't really say this his but maga did maga want to let this guy totally yeah, I think you're I think you're dead on with that okay
So but so now they're trying to sort of like change this narrative about what it was because when he was running it was

(01:28:11):
It's all these liberal pedophiles Bill Clinton and so on
Are messing with the kids and don't
Trump's gonna get in there and and drain the swamp. He's gonna pull out the deep state people
Which he was supposed to do back in 26
2017 right couldn't get it done apparently yeah, but then Q also said he won
He secretly is the president remember he was secretly the president when Biden wasn't everything was the worst because of Biden

(01:28:36):
But it wasn't Biden it was Trump Trump was secretly the president that whole time
But yet they bitched about Biden ruining the economy and putting in woke D.E. I shit
5d chess folks
These people are fucking morons
They're they're theories don't even add up like if you put them all down

(01:28:57):
I bet if you put them all through chat gpt the chat would come back be like none of this makes any sense right can't even force this to make sense right
So I'm gonna play some clips. Oh, okay
Here's the first clip from Larry Gators
Talking about how
Trump is super innocent here we go take a listen I do believe that president Trump is innocent he

(01:29:24):
You know, we're told his names is on the Epstein list
But he wasn't on those flights and he wasn't anywhere near St. James Island
But the way the wife and handling this they had not been reading the room. I mean it's not good
So wait, so was he saying that
uh the Epstein list

(01:29:44):
Wasn't true because it's a busy list is true and
Trump needs to release it because what they'll find on the list is Obama and Hillary Clinton
Okay
Got it
Okay, and
And he he's talking about there the emery's like you know, it Trump's totally innocent

(01:30:04):
He was never on the flights. He was never at St. James Island
which is
Incorrect. He's literally on the flight logs that have been
Going around online forever. Right multiple times
Was he messing with kids? I don't know the answer to that. I know he was on the flight log
So when when Gators says he was never on the flights. That's a lie

(01:30:25):
Unless you're telling me that that's a fabricated flight book
That was in court
Procedures from the FBI
So then um
Gators goes on he's talking about how
He's interviewing the security guards on his show

(01:30:45):
And how the security guards are confirming that all those you know that 12 hour video the FBI released
Of the prison. Yeah. Yeah. That was fake
Okay, and the cameras were not working which is what we heard the beginning. That's what we heard in the beginning. So yeah
Now here's where it gets interesting because
O'Lary Gator says something real interesting which if you if you pay attention you're going to know where I'm going with this

(01:31:13):
Take a listen
This Epstein thing is a mess. I'm I
provide a voice
For the voice solicit in these children and so if the Epstein list is revealed today
I believe the United States government were fall and they make me's the fall in order for it to be rebuilt back up

(01:31:34):
So Epstein is evolved Obama is connected
The diddy list all of these uh, lay lines are are connected and we got pentatiles in our government on both sides of the aisle
pentatiles throughout the
Royal Dynastic families of Eastern Center in Western Europe. So uh, this is a mess

(01:31:58):
And I don't think that the White House has handled it correctly and hopefully president Trump can really
If I'm president Trump
I would expose the Epstein list
Because that was a campaign promise, you know, and so
Barack Obama is in trouble now
Hillary Clinton is in trouble. Bill Clinton

(01:32:19):
Yeah, yeah, and these devils
And so we here
At Global Spudger Revolution Media Group
Every Tuesday and Friday we're exposed in this so the Epstein list must be exposed and
So he says

(01:32:40):
That if that he wants the Epstein list to be released
And when it does the US government will fall
Hmm. What does that sound like to you
He says he wants to rebuild it from scratch. This sounds just like
Darken Lightning the darken lineman makes with the great reset mixed with the traditionalism stuff

(01:33:02):
Yeah straight from
Mother Russia which got by the way. Guess who was on Alex Jones this week too
My name Alexander Dugan Putin's right hand man the architect of traditionalism. That's in bed with Steve Bannon
It's all lined up for exactly what they want to do. There's a battle for
All these people have the same interest destroying American democracy and rebuilding it in their vision

(01:33:25):
Uh-huh. That's what they all want
That's what we're looking at. Did does look identical for each one of these people know
But all of them have the same interests. Let's burn this bitch to the ground
So we can make it great
Again again
So interesting because like the reason I'm talking about all this is because

(01:33:47):
These are the talking points that are going to get perpetuated throughout this whole alternative stream media now
But didn't Putin come out and say to Trump that he has a
He has a copy of the list
Dirty. I don't know. I don't know. That's what I was seeing. I don't know if that was true or not
But I kept seeing that on my TikTok, but that could be just bullshit. Oh
I haven't seen that

(01:34:09):
I'm not sure. Did they ever come out and say what they were trying to blackmail Trump with
That one guy with the sunglasses and the Saudi prince
Remember when they did it in front of the cameras. Yeah, I never I never heard anything beyond the speculation of
Then blackmailing him. Huh

(01:34:30):
I know he's not looking too good his hands are bruised to hell. Mm-hmm. So
You think that we'll take bets on when this 80 vans can
Have the stamina or the charisma to hold up absolutely no mega no absolutely
The Republican party after like Trump goes and the rest of the crew goes with him

(01:34:54):
I don't think no one's got the charisma of Trump, you know, he's got the thing
That's why they all got behind him because they're like this guy's the guy that can do the things we want
He's got power over these people when he does
So we'll see
So then they keep talking and Rosanne says

(01:35:16):
That the truth is that
The real story is that someone
The deep state is putting names on the list of people who aren't guilty like Donald J. Trump
Oh convenient. That's a deep state liberal conspiracy
And Trump is holding on to the Epstein list

(01:35:38):
Because it gives him leverage five d chess
Genie it's the art of the deal
All right, so take a listen to what stupid Rosanne has to say and so
This pedophile reign
must be exposed absolutely
Well, I think that I think that Trump

(01:35:59):
You know, they found all those burn bags and everything that they were
In the southern district of New York where comies daughters in charge of the whole
You know, I mean the corruption is so deep. I think maybe they compromise the this is just a thought
They may have compromised the information and put innocent people on there

(01:36:19):
And that's why he's holding it off. I mean, this is what I think and also I think well this operation
It may go a lot deeper than even Trump suspected and he might be holding on to it for leverage
Yes, it's I think once he's in on it too
I absolutely they all are I mean

(01:36:40):
It's a lot of names on it just like you said mom that these individuals are innocent some of these names so
But at the same time if I was president Trump I would expose the guilty names
But protect those names who happen to be on the list but not did not necessarily take
Um, you know be a part

(01:37:03):
Okay, so we got to find out who's on the list
got to find out and
If we see a name that we don't want
To believe is on the list
That means that the deep state
Put the name on the list
Bingo got it

(01:37:24):
Absolutely
Got it of course that's what I know
I mean they're pre they're pre positioning yes for the this thing to get released eventually with Trump's name on it
So they can be like
They've been feeling all your brains with nonsense of it's it's deep state
That put a name on me are people gonna fucking like I can't put anything past mega like for one second

(01:37:50):
I'm like there's no way that they're gonna fall for this shit
There's no fucking way how ridiculous is all of their thought leaders tell them this which is what's happening
It's a coordinated rollout. I'm sure if you listen to all the other ones up
This is crazy
That's what I'm saying the conspiracy movement got completely hijacked by like brain dead people who can't think

(01:38:12):
Who I want to be told what to believe and I'm like this wasn't the conspiracy people
That wasn't the people the the people before were like shrewd open-minded and shrewd and not trusting and wondering like well
Who's really pulling the strings here and questioning everything and like these people are just

(01:38:32):
Fed hookline and sinker here you go. Here's what you should believe
Simply because we tell you to
And then they got the balls of setting because I thought for one second I was like there
MAGA is going to hold
Uh this accountable like they want the Epstein list and they're not letting it die

(01:38:53):
but now
I'm like well even if they get the list they're not going to believe the fucking list because now the deep state
I'm going to put that in air quotes for everybody now the deep state has come in and
Adjusts I mean they're there
Ability to fucking summer salt out of any kind of
Responsibility or holding any any of their leaders accountable to anything is absolutely

(01:39:18):
Mindboggling I have never seen anything like it
Well, that's why there's a there's that's why there's this delay because the strategy is
All right, Trump you just kind of like not talk about it. They'll keep bitching and they'll keep pushing for it
Meanwhile the the Congress is actually opening up investigations to get this thing released
But they know that okay the clock's ticking start

(01:39:41):
Through the wellness company or whatever give your people your talking points
To start saying this shit start filling their heads with this shit so that two months from now when they see Donald's Trump
Name and list I'll be like yeah, this is exactly we rose and told me yeah exactly what they said
This is the deep state
Instead of the truth is that he was on the fucking list and he's doing whatever they all were doing

(01:40:03):
Including Clinton or whoever else is on the list if Obama's on listen get his ass too like yeah
Why does anybody care if they're being
Gross then they're being gross get him out of here
So that's what's concerning now if you go through the rest of the interview
Uh Gators I thought this is the one thing that could be save us rose to rose as defense

(01:40:29):
I bet it was a month ago she was
Talking on Twitter about how
Trump needs to release the Epstein list
So I don't know where to stand now they're gonna it doesn't matter now it sounds like they're pivoting better
To not believe the list yeah, they want the list so bad, but now they're saying well, it's not even gonna be the list

(01:40:52):
Yeah
So why do you give a what's the fucking list gonna prove if you can just
Decide that you're not gonna believe the list
It's very confusing because Gilaean is saying there's no list Epstein never did anything wrong
Trump didn't do anything wrong neither to build Clinton none of this ever happened

(01:41:12):
Is what she's saying?
Is it was a witch hunt I guess
Wild stuff so Larry Gators says stuff he says my job is to decapitate the system
Hmm more dark enlightenment talk
It's that violent
Destruction of American democracy is what the tone is of the dark enlightenment. It's that sort of violence to it

(01:41:39):
What the fuck decapitate the system not reform the system
Not fix the system decapitate it like this sounds dangerous. This is dangerous ideology
Gators talks about
You go through the Larry Gators script right Larry um the Rockefeller's guy um

(01:42:01):
I'll tell you well, let me go through the rest of you and then we're gonna talk about who he is. Okay. Sorry. I kind of set my notes up backwards
So Larry Gators is a conspir- he was on the conspiracy circuits for a while. Yeah, and
he talked a lot about the boule and the Prince Hall mason's and
You know how they're behind like the suppression of black people and

(01:42:26):
How they endorse abortions through plan parenthood
He he talks in the interview about how the the Hatch family the ho HOCH
the Hatch family is
Gielains bloodline that goes back to Vlad the impaler
Okay
they talk about how

(01:42:47):
MI6 mason and CIA are all British controlled intelligence agencies trying to take Trump down so they can retake control of America back from him
um
Talks about trafficking of children is in the communist manifesto which I downloaded by the way the other day
So I'm gonna read it. Okay. I don't know anything about it. I don't know

(01:43:07):
Karl Marx
Dedicated his books to Lucifer. I looked that up. That's apparently not true. Okay. I don't know where he saw he he goes on and on he goes he's like
Eric Dyson on real-time
With Bill Maher. He he's in love with the sound of his voice so much so he does the cadence thing. He's a pastor
Yeah, he'll never slow down to explain anything. I got no sources or references. It's what I think and feel

(01:43:33):
Yeah
So he's he's just another fucking con man. Okay
Talks a good talk
Where's the proof? Yeah, she don't like that. I don't like the rib rhythmic
Yeah
Speech it's it's con artisty to me feels like you try like this like fucking pie'd paper shit

(01:43:54):
You try to like dazzle me with your
Your language and your your uh people thought I'm like do anybody fall for this shit?
I guess so I
Um
Talks about you know, he's big on like the British Empire rolls everything
He's big into the um

(01:44:19):
He's big into like he's very
anti-abortion and how
What they're doing is taking organs from babies to put into Bill Gates's fake meat and into vaccines
Okay
Ha ha
Palisite has no rights to the land in Israel. Oh, okay

(01:44:39):
um
Abortion must be outlawed because
um
It's not a woman's body. That's God's body. Oh, okay, and I say well how far do we take that Larry because you're looking quite overweight sir
And if we're talking about abusing God's temple
Maybe we should ban your snacks. Yeah, you don't seem to have control over that Larry. Yeah

(01:45:02):
Um, he talks about
We must protect the nation of Israel
So like you see some common
Things okay, does he not know his uh
His group is pivoting
Who the maga folks yeah, they're pivoting away from like pro blue and lights. Yes since when

(01:45:25):
Uh since for a while now really yes
Really
Fuck you can't just uh what's her name? Oh, yeah, there's like that whole like fracture. Yes. Can't what's her name?
Candace Owens. Oh, and can't it so in Tucker maybe Tucker Carlson
There's a huge like conspiracy
Group of people that are coming out. I don't even know if they're conspiracy

(01:45:50):
But yeah, they are kind of conspiracy where they're showing underlying
See, I don't think they're both on the wellness company list
So I that's come so maybe that pokes a hole in the argument that hey the wellness company gives talking points to all these people
And they all say the same thing like maybe that's not true. Maybe that pokes a hole in it
Yeah, no, I can't this is going hard on the blue and white really yes, okay

(01:46:13):
Uh, so is Tucker Carlson. I watched him interview a orthodox uh
um
Mr none that where he they were she was talking about how the Jews spit on her because she works in a
monast not a monastery of
Not a monastery. What's it called? Where did the nuns live?

(01:46:36):
Hmm the nunnery the nunnery
Convent Jesus, okay, okay. There's a convent where they are
In Jerusalem and the Jews aren't
The nicest to the Christians really yes, I think they blew up a church
Interesting. There's all kinds of stuff that's going on so

(01:46:59):
he's kind of in the minority of the conspiracy at this point because for my seeing the conspiracies are shifting
to
being anti
Zionism
I mean that's where the conspiracy people have always been like and historically they've been very anti Zionist like every conspiracy

(01:47:25):
Person I've read was anti Zionist
I don't know
So well so in conclusion um, let's talk about who these people are I guess now
And and what are we talking about in my opinion? I think these two are
um, you know getting ahead of the story that's what it seems like right

(01:47:48):
Which is again again with the weird
sort of
What do you call double think in 1984
A there's no such list
B it's a democratic deep state hoax
See there's a list but only some of the names are correct

(01:48:10):
So it's like which one is it guys let's pick one
So there are gators he is he's hosted this global spiritual revolution radio show a very Christian
quote-unquote
He talks bad shit
He talks what he talks he talks bad shit. Oh, okay

(01:48:30):
But then he acts scared he pre-empt what happened was he went on tinfoil hat
That's first time I heard of him back around 2020 I think um and
He was a very good guest very engaging so engaging that I was like oh shit this guy's gonna hard to paint
I'm gonna reach out to him

(01:48:51):
The first time I heard him I was like I'm gonna reach out to him see find animal my show. Okay. I go to find him on Twitter
He blocked me oh
Weird huh that is weird no idea why
Huh he had blocked me and I said something to the swarm boys the tinfoil hat boys
I was like man you guys don't know what Gary their gators blocked me and they're like I have no idea that's weird

(01:49:11):
Yeah, so he went on tinfoil hat a couple more times one of the most popular guest
Then they have a falling out and I don't know for the life of me what happened exactly I
Sam's talked about it. I should know I should know this
Um sort of reaching out to those guys and being like hey, what's this story?
the

(01:49:32):
They've talked about it on reddit
One story is that he thought the tinfoil hat wasn't Christian enough because they like square and stuff, you know
Okay
And that he got upset are they Christian?
There he gators is no the tinfoil hat
Crew no not really okay. I think Sam is receptive to Christianity now. Okay. I don't know how hardcore he is about it

(01:49:56):
I know he's talked about him like being a Christian though. What's going on lately Joe Rogan is he going to church?
So they said yeah said he goes to a church in Austin weird okay
Uh
So yeah, he went on tinfoil hat, but then there was like this weird falling out and he's that hasn't been on in years now
supposedly he got upset because someone corrected him

(01:50:19):
supposedly
There was a fallout because gators was professing his love of Donald Trump and how Trump is still the president
He was doing that sort of thing on the show there and people in the swarm
Got up his ass online and like what the fuck are you talking about?
And that's what ended it, but either way he ended up blocking Sam and tinfoil hat as well. Okay. So there there was a falling out there

(01:50:44):
How old is he? Larygators? Yeah, maybe 55-ish. Okay, so he's kind of young give her take. Yeah
And my old beef with the guys like he just goes on and on with zero evidence. He's writing a book. He's releasing a book about
Like Kobe Bryant and shit. Okay soon is what he was saying on Rogan's show
He's posted photos on his Instagram of because he hasn't blocked me on Instagram yet

(01:51:07):
Of all kinds of celebrities like big a place a list of celebrities. So he's 100% plugged into
Big dog somewhere
On his podcast
No, just like photos of him hanging out at events with famous people. Okay. It's a he's a weird dude. Okay. Something's up with him
Interesting like you don't get this rich and famous from some radio

(01:51:32):
Christian show that no one's ever heard of dude right or maybe you do I don't fucking know. What do I know
There's a lot of money and religion. I know that so maybe I'm maybe he does
Um
Now Rogan is also interesting. I did a whole show about her in 2023
You recall she got quote remember she had her she had the 90s show with the Rogan show and then she

(01:51:55):
Try to relaunch it again in 2018. Yeah, and ABC canceled it
Yeah, like nine episodes in what did she do she called some woman who worked with Obama of she compared to an ape
Oh, that's right and ABC was like what the fuck like kid boom done
Yeah, and that's what bugs me is like these people with the like

(01:52:15):
I'm okay with free speech, but I'm also okay with if my if I said something that racist
My employer would fire me immediately. Yeah, and they should
It's their fucking choice
Oh, they don't want to racist who makes who makes jokes about apes on their payroll wow
Yeah shocking shocking. We really do need to stop that overreach

(01:52:38):
It's funny because it's like they want they don't want
Free speech they want free of
Consequence right and it's like well you she can say it she did say she did say it yeah
That wasn't her not saying it she just had a consequence to having her hateful speech

(01:53:00):
And it's tough right because like on some ways I'm sympathetic to it because I'm like
I talk about crazy shit man like you could you could argue about me and be like this my varga talks about it during a chrome
And it's like
I don't know so like
I don't know I for me. I'm like I'm a double standard. I'm like well

(01:53:22):
I think you should be able to talk about conspiracies as long as you're not misleading and lying
Listen, I think that you can have a conversation even a like a
One that like tip toes the line
conversation of like being like hey, this is a sensitive subject
We need to have respect here. Yeah, and have an interesting compelling conversation about that

(01:53:43):
That's that doesn't go into hateful mean speech right I agree
It's like I think you should be able to have a conversation about the most taboo things of
Do you want to be a Holocaust denial like we can we can have an honest conversation about that if we wanted to not that I would want to on this
Fuck show, but like I think you should be allowed to have that conversation right and answer questions and and maybe bring up the things that these

(01:54:06):
People who don't believe in it like what why don't you believe it let's talk about it exactly
But you don't have to do name calls and do things that are belittling and shitty and fucking hurtful. Yeah
And that's what she did yeah, and it's like not like she got arrested
She just lost her job and it's like welcome to America right I know these comedians are like well
Why do I get fired? It's like well welcome to the rest of the country

(01:54:29):
We all get fired for shit. Well mark maran. I was watching him do a couple different interviews
And he said he was kind of holding their feet to the fire saying like it's not that you couldn't say it you did say it
It's that there was consequences of you saying it
Yeah, and you didn't like the consequences and you didn't like the consequence that people were holding a fucking holding their

(01:54:50):
Yeah, that people think it's gross. They didn't like it. Yeah
Yeah, cuz ABC if if no one complained about it if she said it and everyone was like,
"Ha ha, that's a funny joke" they'd be like
Okay, that's fine. Right. They're just trying to sell shows
Right
You know, they don't like the heat that it brings when there's this boycott in this whole conversation about their number one star
Being a racist asshole. Yeah, like they got to drop the dead weight like sorry bitch

(01:55:15):
I don't know what to tell you
You're the one that brought this on yourself
Anyways, so anyway um
She's from Salt Lake City by the way. I know also orthodox Jewish
Oh
But she went to a NLDS church and kept that quiet that's crazy. I thought she was LDS
I thought she was Christian. I didn't know she was uh she was I don't know she still is

(01:55:42):
In her book she talks about all kinds of stuff like she
Well, we'll get there. Let me let me go through my some of my notes from the book. She had a high-end
She did when she was 16 okay, she got hit by a car the hood ornament impelled her skull
And she had a traumatic brain injury
She was institutionalized for eight months. Jeez so

(01:56:05):
Not to defend what she said, but I'm also like she might have a TBI. Yeah, this might be like Kanye West
With his car accident like she might just
Like not have the filters in place of like checking herself. Yeah, which like I've simply for that. Yeah knowing that
So it's like, like does that make it okay for her to make a joke like that? No, but

(01:56:26):
It adds context to it for sure. Yeah, that's context
And she did apologize for it. She later apologized and I'm like I feel like that's okay
I don't know. I'm not the one that got offended by it like it wasn't a
Terrogatory statement about me. So like I don't know if I have the place to be the one to forget it
fucking thing to say that
you can only

(01:56:48):
Be offended for something that happened specifically to you. What do you mean?
You can't say
That's wrong and I don't want to live in a society where people think that this is okay to say
You always
caveat it was saying well, it wasn't done to me specifically so I don't have a space to talk into no

(01:57:11):
I don't have this I don't have I'm not the one that has the
Sort of permission to forgive her is what I'm saying because she apologized for it. She later said that was that was in poor taste
I shouldn't have said that joke
And like for me as a person I'm like
Okay, she you know she did the right thing in the end a learning a place to learn
I'm okay with that I'm going to get some path to redemption. I believe in that okay

(01:57:35):
But does that mean she should have a showback and all that I don't know you got to ask like the people that that
Comment was made against if they're okay with that I guess I don't know. I don't know how you answer that question
Okay, I agree with that
Okay, good. Okay, sorry. I just was like shut up. I hate when you do that your devil's advocate bullshit. It makes me angry

(01:57:55):
Some glad that we're on the same page great
In 1991 there was a people magazine article and she claimed that her parents
Abused her physically and sexually. Oh
So that could explain why she's got this strong like protect the kids narrative that the cute people claimed they were going to do

(01:58:17):
Mm-hmm
But then she might have also has a brain injury well
She told Oprah later on that she was on psychiatric drugs and she wasn't entirely sure
And she thought maybe she had dissociative identity disorders from her childhood trauma
And she goes on to a whole list of names of personalities that she had oh crazy, huh?

(01:58:41):
Okay, and she said she definitely have her as a speaking uh
As a voice of our
Group
She was actually very progressive for many years if you recall I do remember her being that remember when she

(01:59:03):
mocked the national anthem yeah, which is curious
I mean because like that's her people today is like the flag-wearing people right
Um, I don't think they really believe in it anymore though, but okay
She
Oh, let's see here
It's kind of hard to tell who she was supporting because she kind of has gone back and forth on this stuff over the years

(01:59:29):
Which could be like the tbi talking
So it's kind of hard but like on this interview that I watched she was wearing a QA non hat and a few months ago she was rapping with
Tom
Kringy Canadian McDonald
Remember that you see that video. Oh, it's terrible

(01:59:50):
Oh my god wait no, I did see it. Hey, you know who else we should find out what their political views are where's Gary bucy
Uh, Gary bucy has a real interesting fucking points. Why don't we get him on the line right now and let's find out what he thinks about everything
Right, these people with like mental health issues and um
brain

(02:00:13):
closed head brain injuries and being institutionalized for eight fucking months. Why are they the ones speaking?
I don't know because they're famous
Okay, sounds good now do you remember she was also on Tucker Carlson not too long ago talking about the Nephilim from the book of Enoch
They love the book of Enoch great segue from last week's episode. We're talking about representative Anna Luna on Joe Rogan

(02:00:38):
Soft disclosing the book of Enoch connection into the alien agenda stuff
Now in her book there's some interesting things like she talks about
um
She's I'm gonna read you from the book
Oh
She talks about becoming more of into a housewife

(02:01:00):
We finally decided to tie the knot in 1974 after seeing the exorcist we were convinced that Satan had possessed us kind of funny kind of a joke
Um, is it a joke
That was actually written by her first husband it was the forward to the book oh okay, but
This is

(02:01:22):
Wait is this what's that guy's name?
Bill Pentland is his name oh not the other guy okay. Well, it's curious is that exorcist mom Arnold no not
Was that his name was the Tom Arnold shoes marry to
Anyway, the exorcist had a bazoo zoo which was that demon that people are comparing to the LeBoubou toys today

(02:01:43):
Okay, but what's interesting is that she has a whole chapter where she talks about selling her soul to the devil to become famous
She was 12 years old
It's a lot of time Arnold
She says one day as I sat in my room crying and snapping the heads off my Barbie dolls with my chocolate soaked sausage fingers and perusing a copy of my dad's national inquirer

(02:02:06):
I saw in the backpages and add for information about acquiring occult powers
I decided I wasn't going to feel sorry for myself anymore
I was determined not to accept the status quo and I would do anything and I mean anything to alter the world the way
I wanted it to be I decided to do something that would have a profound impact on my life
Something that I would eventually be very ashamed of as an adult

(02:02:28):
So this is what I'm saying is like we have to deal with these people unpacking their traumas of their weird shaped dicks or their
impotence or them
There like the person you're the one that sold your soul to the devil not all of us don't make us do this witch hunt of
Devilworshping Democrats or whatever you're saying on here blood you know blood drinking liberals

(02:02:51):
You know right like you're the one doing this shit not like the calls coming from inside the house like you did it you didn't have a problem
That's like the like the people that cheat and then blame the other person for cheating. Yeah, yes
You're the one doing it every accusation is a confession
Yes, so literally says something I would be eventually be very ashamed of as an adult

(02:03:12):
Everything this is what she says everything that follows is all true every single word of it
When you find yourself upset and jealous and bitter do not I repeat do not call on the power of Satan
Once you do a deal with the devil you will burn and hell with shame in your regret when I was 12
By someone Satan and sign my name and blood
I learned how to do this from the Mormon contingent in my hometown

(02:03:35):
These people keep records on everything and the satanic worship sections of their library are some of the best
I did my homework and decided it was time to make my move
I would love to explain
Just how I conjured up Satan and what the books I got from the Mormons taught me
But for obvious reasons I will not publish them here so that other lost and lonely souls don't repeat my mistakes
Obviously, it's easy enough to enter into a binding satanic contract as every lawyer politician in Hollywood star can attest

(02:04:02):
What backstage at the Oscars is a veritable bloodletting of virgins and goat fucking
I'm the first celebrity to admit it and I believe it is time that all of you know our dirty little secret
She was on to describe him and how he comes into the room
He presented me with the agreement. I signed it in my own hand in my own blood

(02:04:25):
And grasped the brass ring like it was a warm yeast doughnut
They're there after my life changed completely
Whereas before I spent most of my days trying to escape the unmerciful teasing and mistreatment by the Mormon children and the weirdos in my own family
By reading the Torah all day
I now began spending all my days escaping the same things by reading about the occult interpretations of the Torah

(02:04:48):
How much time in her day did she have?
I mean she was a kid she was 12
So you know just the light reading of the Torah
Yeah weird huh
And occult books from the Mormon libraries. What is she even talking about?
I don't know that's what she says she sold her soul to the devil okay

(02:05:09):
And she she
Re-enforces the topic multiple times throughout the book
She then talks about how she went to visit a cabala priest
To say like hey, am I gonna burn in hell and the guy like laughs it off and he was like

(02:05:30):
um yeah no
Because you did it on Shabbat and Shabbat is Satan's day off you picked a perfect day. It's a loophole
You're off the hook
Okay
And she and I mean she throughout the book it's like she goes back to the same sort of topic over and over and over
I read I read through much many more passages on my podcast that I did about it if people are interested

(02:05:54):
I'll put a link in the show notes. I did it back in 2023. I don't remember what month
I don't even know I think it was towards the end of the year so it's probably December of 2023 I think
Um, but I'll put a link in the show notes you can check it out. It's it's a wild read. I mean she goes through a lot more
Stuff as well. It's not just that sort of thing

(02:06:15):
Anyway, my point is is that
um
You can't trust these two right
These are problematic people
So
That's all I got
Crazy week in the conspiracy world

(02:06:35):
Whatever you're gonna do oh it's so stressful
You could look at it as
Exciting and fun
Sure
Conspiracies are more fun when no one took us serious. Yes
This is scary

(02:06:57):
Keep uh
Keep conspiracies on ancient aliens, you know my god. It's so much easier. Maybe that's that's all the stuff. So
now you're all caught up on
Lil Nas X rose ambar and Larry Bishop Gators a guy we haven't heard from in years
making his rounds
What do you guys think leave your comments in the patreon chat or the comments say there's a there's a comment section on the patreon post for Josie

(02:07:25):
Um and hit that hit that chat. I like the chats man
Chats are a good time. I think they're both fun. I feel like the
The comment section on the under the post is good because it's like context of that post. Yeah, that's yeah, and then usually we'll go off
Talk about other things on the chat. Yeah, the chat school because you can post like photos

(02:07:46):
You can upload photos today. We do that on yours. Yeah, I got a photo. Oh, okay. Yeah, you can upload photos
Yeah, it's just a good time. I really enjoy. I enjoy the uh
The community behind
All good people
Like-minded enough
Independent thinking enough. Yeah
It's the perfect blend. Yes

(02:08:08):
Kind of like
Mushroom and honey watcher coffee the perfect blend of mushroom and fused coffee
Get it at a cult symbolism dot com
You drifted so much on this. I can't even twice
I brought it up twice
Got him like crypto. Yes
Gotta pay the bills

(02:08:31):
Okay, all right. It's all I got
All right, thanks for listening everybody till next time we love you
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