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August 6, 2025 83 mins
Today we're talking about even more updates on the Epstein saga! We'll talk about some wild TikTok theories that will get into Ghislaine Maxwell's father Robert Maxwell with his death, his publishing empire (defining a "Pergamom" as Satan's Throne), McGraw-Hill's merger with Maxwell's Macmillan (Alice in Wonderland symbolism), ChatGPT disinformation, Ghislaine updates, prison video findings, Peter Thiel & Palantir, major housekeeping updates and Isaac's new store at OccultSymbolism.com (with Mushroominati Watcher coffee!), Oklahoma City bombing theories about Timothy McVeigh being alive and IT'S MURDAAAA on CEOs and billionaires! We'll also hit those August Tier 2 shoutouts for the Patreon.com/BreakingSocialNorms supporters!

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TIMESTAMPS: 
  • 00:00:00 — What do Alice in Wonderland, MKUltra and your favorite textbooks from school have in common?
  • 00:00:51 — The ChatGPT teaser generator fails again
  • 00:04:04 — Big announcement teaser & Patreon Tier 2 shout-outs
  • 00:04:36 — TikTok rabbit holes and curated conspiracies
  • 00:05:53 — Dissecting Trump’s connection to Epstein & Ghislaine
  • 00:07:28 — Virginia Giuffre’s deposition and conflicting reports
  • 00:09:12 — JD Vance, technocrats, and political chess moves
  • 00:10:53 — Democrats, the Epstein list, and Clinton protection
  • 00:12:47 — Was McGraw-Hill really owned by Robert Maxwell?
  • 00:15:00 — Pergamon, Satan’s throne, and the publishing empire
  • 00:20:10 — Did book nerds kill Robert Maxwell? Yacht death mystery
  • 00:22:33 — Lewis Carroll, MKUltra, and suspicious publishing logos
  • 00:24:23 — British Empire conspiracy and Francis Bacon theory
  • 00:31:12 — Controlling the narrative: why elites buy media & books
  • 00:54:20 — Ghislaine housed in Epstein’s prison — again
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Episode Transcript

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(00:00):
What do Alice in Wonderland MK Ultra and your favorite textbooks from school by McGraw Hill haven't common you're gonna find out today

(00:09):
When we talk about book nerds taking out Gilae Maxwell's father to stop a hostile takeover
We're diving into a tangled web to discuss Gilae's secret meeting with Trump's lawyer Epstein's $170 million dollar Peter Tilti
Some doctored footage allegations child rapist on stage with a

(00:30):
Nice screw that up. Sorry plus the Oklahoma City bombing predicted programming and a trail of dead billionaires stay tuned because this one gets dark real fast
Look I've been trying to get chat GPT to give me the the hot teaser and

(00:53):
What's going on chat? It's dropping the fucking ball. In fact, that's not what it's made for
Well, it's supposed to be made for everything
It's not doing it and they fucked up. I did some serious research
We'll talk about when it comes up about Robert Maxwell that it why did me completely?
Out right. I'm like, why does it keep getting things way wrong? Now I'm like, I don't trust it

(01:15):
It's sus now. I'm like, okay, all I need to see was the chip the open a I CEO
Shlobber Trump's not in Saudi Arabia. I was like, okay
Sam Altman or whatever. Yeah, I'm not doing this. I don't they're as dead to me as Google
I do that's a they're the same level of dead so not dead. I'll use it, but like I don't trust it at all

(01:40):
same with Wikipedia
Which I find also absent from the name Robert Maxwell in several pages that it should be on
Okay, like all the whole shit on the internet is I mean, this is what they do. Yeah, they corral us into one place
Yep, and then they start dicking with everything so we don't know what's real anymore. Uh-huh

(02:00):
It's some total 1984 shit, and I'm not having it. Yes
So today you want to talk about a variety of
Topics you're interested in I do
How do you want to do this? I want well first off
my contribution to today's
Show is I go on TikTok and I

(02:23):
look at shit and then I
curate an experience for Isaac to then go and fucking
investigate
So that is what I do. I'm great at scouring what
The word is on the street
What I do not do any of the deep investigations. Well, I mean, I'll do a tiny bit. Yeah a pinchy of

(02:49):
Some stuff, but typically I'm like that was interesting Isaac is this real
Mm-hmm. That's more of my speed
So I looked into some that interested me okay, and I've got some notes some interesting things so we're gonna talk about
all the things in my
Teed I'm just gonna do a moment teasers again and

(03:12):
Why are you doing chat to me? I've always felt you're like yours. I drop my notes in it and I say give me a funny
interesting SEO focused
10 to 30 second teaser. What is an SEO search engine optimization?
You know, okay, so I'm like you know all the things you tell me what to say
Uh-huh, and I'll be so meaning that like when people are looking this stuff up they'll find our show. Yeah

(03:38):
Oh, I understand. Okay, but they but it sucks. So I'm not doing anymore. Okay
I'm gonna say your clever you don't need that. Well, thanks, baby
You're very funny and very clever. Thank you. It's very kind of you
The oh, we'll also do the patreon tier two shout outs for the month of August
That's coming your way. So stay tuned for that

(03:59):
And I've got a really big announcement. Oh big announcement. Do I know it?
You certainly know it because you've been seeing me struggle all weekend with this announcement. Oh, okay
So that'll happen sometime. Oh, okay
I don't know when it's gonna struggle even bitching bitching it up all fucking weekend

(04:21):
so
Hell yeah brother
Let's start with Gilei Maxwell and her father Robert. Okay
Now these are I'm gonna fully put it out there first off. Do you like my take talks?
You curated a hell of an experience for me. You did all right did yeah good

(04:43):
Anything bullshit that I sent a couple it was probably a couple I'd have to rewatch them all to tell you which ones
Okay, a couple of a couple of them surprise me. Okay, and then we're gonna start with one of the ones that really surprised me
Okay, so you know Gilei Maxwell, you know the madame in the Jeffrey Epstein ordeal. Uh-huh
Now the and I'm gonna over she's a great lady. Did you see the one? She's a great lady. She they're saying I can pardon her

(05:11):
It's within my rights. I don't think about it much. We'll see
We're gonna talk about sensitive subjects today, so
There's your late warning. I guess
So gilei you know who gilei is she was Epstein's madame some say that she was actually a girlfriend

(05:34):
Well, yes, that was his girlfriend and Virginia Dupre said that she was actually the Pub-A master
She handled Epstein which would make more sense because
her father was tied to
Mossad and these intelligence agencies, okay, and
He was also a I don't know he's a billionaire, but he was very wealthy. Mm-hmm

(05:57):
And you sent me a video
You know, let's go ahead about TikTok. It's always some bullshit thing with no facts to back it up
Just some girl and she's like people really shocked when I tell him that
McGraw Hill from the textbooks you had in high school was owned by Robert Maxwell Gilei's father
Mm-hmm. I was like oh and
Ever in the comment like whoa really and I'm like

(06:18):
Can you name one fucking source for this please so I don't have to go look up shit?
And everyone and this is the problem with everybody everyone a comment just immediately assumes it wow that's crazy
Yeah, I'm like are we all fucking stupid. Yes, we are all stupid listen
And I'm in that boat with all of these other stupid people is it but you're making the video

(06:38):
Sometimes I do like sometimes I fucking send people this shit
I am dumb with the other dummies
That's why I send it to you. I'm like say hey is this fucking true
Because I'm dumb and I send dumb shit out like it's true. They're not dumb
Okay, I get whenever something like ticks my emotion and I and I lose my sense of like being rational

(07:04):
Yeah, and it fits my narrative. Oh, it's over. I'm not thinking. Yeah, I'm not gonna think about that. I'm sending it
It's going on Facebook full send and then right
Your Facebook boomer now
Right underneath that I'm a I do not give Facebook
The power to use my pictures no consent no consent. I'm a fucking old idiot

(07:27):
Say pray three times to save our vets
Amen
That's me well anyways, so here's my journey. This is why I am done with Chad G PT. Okay in general
I look it up. I say hey is Robert Maxwell affiliated with the McRall Hill textbooks

(07:49):
Chad says no Robert Maxwell was not affiliated with the McRall Hill. Here's the distinction
Robert Maxwell British media mogul an owner of Pergamon press
What's a Pergamon
Don't ask me. I'm a dummy. I
Have no do it Pergamon see what that means
An ancient Greek city

(08:09):
Located in modern day Turkey. It was a significant city in the Hellenistic Hellenistic
Period and under Roman rule known for its impressive architecture particularly the Acropolis
Had the Acropolis anyway the city was known for its strong Imperial cult and
The altar of Zeus which was described in the book of Revelation as Satan's throne

(08:34):
Bombshells reporting live on this show are you kidding me?
This whole this whole Epstein shit is insane. I mean like I feel like it's a goddamn spider web
It's the leg it is that go a million fucking miles down the road and it's attached to everything
Absolutely when he web wrote two books on this one nation under black man

(08:57):
I wanted to and I need to read these books
There's just so anytime I peek into this world. It's like just non-stop connections left and right. Yeah, it's like crazy
Yeah, it's crazy. In fact, do you want your videos you send me was when you web? Did you recognize her? No, she was on
Glenn Beck show talking about oh, yes. Yeah, yeah

(09:17):
Okay, I'll make you reading it from chat. Robert Maxwell owner of Pergamon Press of major publisher of scientific and medical books
Build a publishing empire through Pergamon later required mirror group newspapers in the UK
known for Cold War to aratize the intelligence circles allegedly massage KGB MI6 etc

(09:39):
Then it says McGraw Hill education an American company that publishes educational content and textbooks
Historically separate from Maxwell's operations in fact McGraw Hill and Pergamon Press were competitors
In academic publishing spaces. So while both were involved in publishing
There is no direct affiliation

(10:01):
So I almost went on the girls fucking video to lighter up be like
Like you're an idiot. How about a fake fake news? Uh-huh
But then but then I go to chats a little bit sneaky
I found some shit out about some chat really yeah that he's in

(10:23):
Sam Altman is in they're not like um
In bed together with Peter Tiel, but basically they are so like Peter Tiel and Sam Altman work under the umbrella of like this new army
Intelligence thing where they're collecting all of this data and everything in you know a palan tear

(10:43):
Palantir. Yeah. Oh, okay, and so
But they're using chat gbt alongside with it
But if you fucking ask chat gbt if they are
Under the same umbrella he kind of like skirts around and says no for a really long time until you say it in a very specific way
That they can't that he can't negotiate out of this is bullshit. So they are using but then I also saw this other um TikTok where

(11:09):
Peter Tiel is now coming out and saying
um
That AI is a demon
And that this is all bad and we need to step away from it and all so did Elon Musk so does all these nerds and they do nothing to slow down at all
In fact, they keep accelerating it. Well, you know why? Huh?

(11:30):
They don't want us on there because we're distorting chat gbt. Oh
They don't like that it's getting information from us
And so that's why I think they're coming out and they're just muddy in the waters
Trying to make them trying to make us afraid of it because they don't want our voices on there

(11:51):
Interesting well
So then I got a google and I wrote does Robert Maxwell own the Graal Hill and it says no
Robert Maxwell did not own the Graal Hill however his company
Maxwell communication corporation did acquire Macmillan in 1988
Macmillan's school publishing operations were then merged with Mac Graal Hill in

(12:15):
1989
McGraw Hill eventually acquired full ownership of
Macmillan slash McGraw Hill in 1993
after Maxwell's death
So
Let me go to the next phase of this and I look it up and there's an article from

(12:35):
1989 from the New York Times that I found on an archive website called McGraw Hill and Maxwell form a venture
and
It basically talks about how
I and this gets into like business world stuff that I'm not real smart on okay, but apparently Robert Maxwell have been trying to acquire McGraw Hill for some time in a takeover

(13:01):
So McGraw Hill the company right decided that they would instead form a partnership with
Maxwell's company Mick Millen versus him owning a takeover. Yeah, okay. I don't know how that works, but that's what it said
hmm

(13:21):
Now what's weird is that
You know, let me find my other tabs here
I got so many tabs open
Maxwell died
I don't that's where I'm like I have no idea not even try to figure that out
He dies in 1991 okay

(13:44):
Almost
Immediately after this murder oh
Interesting
And McGraw Hill then like sort of takes ownership of mick millen because they're merged together which makes me think
Did the book nerds kill?
Robert Maxwell
Because he died he was on his yacht

(14:06):
The story goes he was loved to take a piss nude off the side of the boat who doesn't
That's what you got a yacht for yeah, what am I gonna go use the toilet?
Are you insane stupid asshole like a like a like a broke person a poor
Poor person
Pissing off the side of my yacht. I want to naked

(14:28):
And he falls off the you know, he had a baby dick you know, he did
He on a present all the people that calls all the headaches in our world have baby dicks. Yep. I'm sorry
There's there's a balance in nature of things
And you can't be
powerful wealthy and have a big dick nope and you honor a Gregor maybe the exception and you can't have a six pack

(14:50):
It doesn't exist. Yeah, but you know who has six packs?
Poor people. Yeah look at survivor last season that dude was shredded living in his RV and his dad's driveway
As a stunt man because there's no there's not enough fucking time in the day
To keep a fucking physique. No, and then also build wealth. It's too hard. There's not enough fucking time

(15:14):
Pick a lane
Yeah, he was taking a piss and he supposedly fell off the boat and was found dead
Then they do an autopsy and they say oh, he had a heart attack
But then it was inconclusive
No one really knew okay, so then there was an idea that floated that he killed himself and the kids were like no
There's no way he would do that

(15:35):
It's kind of a mystery which
I propose for an intelligence agent allegedly
Now what's interesting is that if you go to make million publishers Wikipedia
Let me make sure I don't want to miss speak
not one

(15:57):
Word on this whole page about Robert Maxwell even though he owned it for all those years
Whatever
But one thing I did learn was that they published the original
Alice's Alice's adventures in Wonderland okay the author Lewis Carroll
Known pedophile

(16:22):
Ha ha kind of weird because we're dealing with all these pedals they love it man
They'd love it so much
It's so fucking weird it's so weird okay go ahead
And we're to yet the logo their original logo from 1865 when this book was published has

(16:43):
A bee and a butterfly on a cross
And a bee is the symbol for magic
The butterfly is the symbol for mk ultra mind control project monarch
I don't
Guess who started all the mind control stuff intelligence agencies interesting you know

(17:08):
And furthermore I interviewed a robber Frederick who is an expert on Shakespeare and he has this whole elaborate theory that I believe in
But I'm also stupid with history so I could be just a moron of how frances bacon
The godfather of science

(17:28):
Was
Holy moly
Con the corner the studio hooks hold on folks
Um
No
The what was I talking about see Francis bacon okay Francis bacon he was apparently sort of like the ultimate

(17:50):
Creator of society
He's the godfather of science, but he
Planed all these he wrote the Shakespeare stories supposedly okay, and the point the point is is that the british empire is
Covertly running the whole world still
I don't know about that
Don't it would be a great conspiracy

(18:10):
Because you wouldn't you wouldn't think it but why wouldn't they be why would they be they were there from the
Well, you think they're just gonna hand over the rain for someone else bro. We won the revolution and we left
Why would they why would we do all of that and then sit there and
I think the blue and white and
The british empire on the white are messing around with America

(18:34):
And then they get in here and they
Influence our politicians to do things
Uh, again, not my
Blit the hundred percent they're all did you see that take talk? I sent you where it was showing where they were sitting in
In positions of like in the cabinet. It's alarming. It's fucking crazy
I used to be and I used to catch not just miss people that run to this

(18:56):
I just kind of was like, I don't know man seems like it's a little dangerous of a territory to sort of bring
You know what I mean? I don't know trying to be in the league with the fucking Nazi shit. No, no
I'm trying to do that. So like my point was like I'm just not gonna touch it
But like the more I look at it, I'm like
Bro, what the hell is going on here like this is really strange yeah
Which is why I'm not it this isn't my forte and this is why exactly like it's really confusing and you have to know a lot about

(19:22):
Like global history and geopolitics like you got to be really
Intelligent on a lot of these things to really have a good opinion on it. Yeah, I can talk about movies because this is a fucking movie
Like okay, it's easy, but you talk about like the history of the british empire and shit
Well, I think that if you got into it you have the brain to recall
I made a nation that you'd be able to pull it and that's what they that's what makes people good is that

(19:48):
You just don't learn the information, but you have the ability to recall it yeah in a in a in context or whatever and that's what that's why I think that if it was something that interested you
You would be able to be like
My eyes just start like I read like the John D book
is
Super informative, but man my eyes are glossing over they start talking about the

(20:12):
the british tea act of
1743 and the beans in the toast goblins and
Shogi movie monsters. I'm like oh fuck is happening over there in England you should do you know what my favorite is like when I get into a book and it gets kind of
Like deep mm-hmm

(20:33):
I have to read and do audible alongside of it oh
So that I can because if I just do audible all drift that's smart and it but if I just read I can I'll drift
But having both of it. Yeah, it'll snap me back in real quick all right
So especially like self-helpy books as like self-help books is where I do this the most

(20:53):
Um, and I think like anything that would if it's horny. I'm in I don't have they don't have to put me
You don't have I don't have to read it alongside it's got me. You're just listening and cleaning and ignoring me
I'm like hey over here
Roll in your eyes. I mean what I'm and it bugs me because you always like to talk to me in the midst of stuff

(21:15):
And I'm like to tell me
Fucking deposit and I'll pause it and I'll listen to you all as long as you want me to listen to you
I'm just gonna you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna have a posted note next time you have your listeners
Show I'm gonna have a post-night when I think of things. I'm gonna write a little note
And it's gonna build up until you're done and then I'm gonna say okay. Here's my thing. I wanted to talk to you about why you were
fantasizing

(21:36):
About nasty business. Yes
So Robert Maxwell
he uh
Born in checkers, Lovacia, modern day Ukraine
died in the Canary Islands of Spain
pissing off his yacht was the yacht's name was the lady
Kee Lane named after his daughter

(21:57):
Hmm
Well, she was a lady
If we know nothing about this woman
She was a lovely lovely lady
The um
But he was buried in this elaborate funeral and Jerusalem
Okay, I don't know the whole thing is like are they in the blue and white?

(22:18):
Oh, they are. It was part of massage. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, allegedly
I don't know there's it could have been proven. I kind of think it's in allegedly still though
So I'm gonna try to be careful with that
Okay
So anyhow um
Also
Why did I have this in my little

(22:39):
I have a crazy string web here on my screen
Robert Maxwell you know at this whole fucking timeline bugs me the most huh is like it makes me
Fucking side with the people I find the most disgusting
You know yeah, how dare you how dare you how fucking dare you make me

(23:00):
It's in here and be like well, it's not she's had a really good point. That's a good point. What the fuck
Disgusting. Why would you do that?
Fucking fill man
It is not good it bugs me go ahead. Well, I think I think uh

(23:21):
I think you can point out
Their atrocities were obviously evil and not good. I think it was deeper than what we thought nope
I the Nazis and the Jews made deals
To buy Palestine so what yes, what is that I sent it to you in my flurry of tiktok

(23:46):
There's a lot of like Nazi propaganda. Well, I don't know what no no. I said I did it on chat gpt2. Oh really and it said that was real yes
That they were like the upper class of the Jewish faith in
Germany was with
The Nazis oh really and figured out a way to get them into Palestine

(24:10):
What the hell is going on in half settlements in Palestine and in there's coins and there's fuck
It's not this isn't
bullshit. This is this happened
Well, and that would make sense because if so the narratives a little off from
Like to zoom out like the McGraw why do we why do we even care about the McGraw Hill right McGraw Hill

(24:31):
Obviously all the textbooks you get in like school right? Mm-hmm K through 12 schooling
And the interest there could be in the same interest that Jeff Bezos has an owner in the Washington post that Ruben Murlock has an owning Fox news
And all these elites that are snapping up, you know, you almost bought Twitter
Like they want to they want to own the sort the dissemination of info so they can control narratives. Yeah

(24:55):
And that makes me wonder about McGraw Hill now and I'm like well, what was it? What what did they not tell us?
And I know that's like such a trope like every snarky-ass truth or out here is always like
School doesn't really tell you anything and it's like I don't know dude. We I learned a lot like they were constantly talking out

(25:15):
Constantly like dude, what are we talking about?
You know, it wasn't like they were doing nothing
I just think there's a lot of things to know like to defend the school thing
Like maybe there's just too much to know and also like when you're a kid your attention span sucks
So maybe like that's it or maybe they really do maybe it's like they really do want to kind of keep his dumb and unaware of certain points

(25:36):
Well, that's why they're interested in buying the the textbooks
I am listening to a horny read called manacle and it's a spicy
Harry Potter someone said you should put a on your amazon affiliate links there you should put links to the book
So I think we should do I will think we should do a little

(25:56):
A little housekeeping section where we do things that we love do uh yeah joseys
I'm not putting shit. There's no if there's no
I always like it's just things that I like
Yeah, not there's no
What is that like there's no other interest besides hey? I I use these things I buy these things yeah

(26:19):
But listen, I'm so I'm listening to this horny Harry Potter book
And she had but she was surely there was a lot of horny going on back then. I mean they were all hitting puberty right?
I'm sure I mean I
But they're not children what the fuck you think wrong with me. They're not children in my book in my book. They're adults

(26:40):
After the fact all right. Well good
I didn't even think about that. That's disgusting. I didn't even think about that. No. Well, I mean it would fit this show if I
But it's not their adults. They had their war and okay, and her what's her name? Is there a lot of interest in the Harry Potter story?
Like is Harry got a girlfriend like who's

(27:03):
Hermione
She's someone's girlfriend in the show. She's the girl like the cute long. She's the long-haired girl anyways
So she in my book Harry Potter lost
They killed him and they killed everybody so now damn Harry Potter's dead right off the bat right off the bat
Okay, anyway, it doesn't matter none of this fucking matters the book is really great if anybody's interested in a little fanfic

(27:27):
This it's a really great
Very it's very rapy though, so just be aware of that any who um
It's how the story starts is some rapin and it
Progresses like two thirds. I don't know how far I am in the book, but any who um
And that's not the horny part just to be clear. Okay um

(27:50):
But she says
We don't really know that we're you listening to this book Jesus Christ. Let me get my fucking thought out for it
All right, I'll I'm gonna lose
Loose by train. I'm listening to it on YouTube because fanfic doesn't have audible
Okay, and I only listen to my horny. I don't read it. Well, I do read some of it, but mostly I go for the audible stuff

(28:15):
okay now
What was I saying? Hey, man, this was worried about I was like I'm just just keep going with your thing
You weren't that fucking worried about it. You interrupted me 30 times
She said Hermione. Is everybody Hermione? Mm-hmm. She said
The winners tell the story

(28:36):
So we don't know what the truth is
So when they say good always prevails over evil
We wouldn't know that because only the one that prevailed
Would be the one that tells the story interesting

(28:57):
And I that's what I was trying to get out for 20. Well that that um text mo not text mo Jim Mars wrote a book about
I haven't read it yet my dad was reading it before he died about how the Nazis actually like America's run by Nazis right now
That's the big secret
Which if you're telling me that they were in kahoot's with

(29:17):
Jirus or with with uh the blue lights there to make palestine or whatever
I don't know now. I was like well, maybe that does make sense
Well, they did take all the good ones to put him like all the smart Nazis and stuck him in yeah, they put him in CIA and NASA
Oh, they did yeah, that's where MK Ultra came from

(29:37):
Now they were doing crazy Nazi experiments. They
We bring the the scientists over here
But you know, we didn't do any of the real nasty stuff. We just like dosed people without them knowing
The Nazis were doing like off the walled crazy mangalos shit, you know
I think we probably were too. I think we were too. That's what I'm saying. I think they're

(29:59):
Because they when when there was a FOIA request because people started figuring out there was an MK Ultra program
the
Director Ed Helms
destroyed like something like 90% of the documentation. We don't know what happened. We have no idea. They destroyed all the documents
Hmm
Any hill so the McGraw Hill thing so your text schoolbooks

(30:22):
basically uh
basically missod intelligence
And Robert Maxwell also plundered a bunch of people of pensions
He did what to make it what making me even worse he took a bunch of people's pensions like 30,000 people's pensions
and use their money and they had this whole stink after he died

(30:43):
They had to figure out how to get the money back to these people because they were counting on it. They were fucking retire, you know
I mean these people are just these rich people are just the worst human beings ever and you know who loves them
Huh the fucking pores the pores. Nobody will stick up for a rich asshole faster than a poor
So bizarre

(31:05):
Well
I mean, okay, let me look her
So okay my next point here. I'm trying to segue over
so
G-Lane
She's in the news in a Robert Maxwell's daughter
I'm sure everyone knows already like the catch up here is that

(31:31):
Trump's personal lawyer who's now a lawyer for the Department of Justice
Get sent in to talk to G-Lane Maxwell about what she knows and who's on the list in a private meeting with no cameras
No other witnesses just Trump personal lawyer and G-Lane Maxwell
They go in there. They have a meeting
She supposedly gives him 100 names

(31:51):
And then she's moved to a minimum security prison in Florida where
I don't know what they're doing. I see these guys when I was stationed at Eglene out in the bomb dub
We saw they had a minimum security prisoners out there cleaning up. Oh really? Yeah, these guys would like you could they would wear

(32:11):
You know like prison jumpsuits, but they would be on golf carts and just fucking around and they go pick up trash and
Like it's a chill, you know
Well, so that's what she's doing now which raises my question. How long do you think till she's out?
I think they're waiting for one big event and then they're gonna hide it in the back end of it
I mean worst-case Christmas like there's always something shady business. They do between Christmas and New Year's

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Because everyone's all like in a weird busy. They're busy with their family
Yeah, they're in like a weird dream state of not know what day it is
Uh-huh, you know, it's just the perfect time to sneak in little sneaky business
Uh-huh. So worst case last week of
2025 you think
But if something crazy happens in the next few weeks, they'll they'll put it right behind that, you know

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That's what they're gonna do and then what does Maga say?
I don't know. What do they say? I mean are they just because right now the narrative every
I see is everyone criticizing this whole thing. I don't see many the only people I see defending it is the news max clips
I was gonna say news max is out there talking about how she's a poor

(33:21):
Person who've got who got roped into this. Yeah, she's a victim. She's a victim of Epstein. Yeah
Isn't that the the what the news organization my brother listens to? Yep
Which I think Hulu bought them so a lot of people cancelled their Hulu subscriptions

(33:42):
Oh
Because it's like well, I can't yet the next season of
Secret lives of warm and wise is coming out
We have we have standards here folks
But there was also talk about how on Bloomberg let me pull it up here
Is it Bloomberg hang on

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What the fuck is this shit?
Hang on I'm all dicked out today. I'm just like
Worked out too hard today and now my brain is shutting down. It's like take a nap
Well, it's cuz you're filled with
cupcakes and brownies
Let me tell you
The the the weekend of all you could eat cupcakes was a bad move

(34:27):
Cuz today's workout of the old CrossFit was a real nightmare lots of running
Front squats burpees and rope climbs. Ooh, I wanted to throw up. I like this is terrible. No one should do this with a
What's worth high sugar content?
What's worth a weekend of
sugary bullshit or a

(34:50):
Salami and Feta sandwich 15 minutes before
Weekend of bullshit for sure. The Salami Feta you just want to throw up the sugar. You're like
You just feel like lousy like I just want to walk to my card and leave
I can't do this
But you know what you know what did help me out with the workout today?

(35:11):
That mushroom and naughty watcher mushroom infused coffee that I sell
That's right on a cult symbolism.com
You can pick up a very special
infused coffee certified or get well, it's not certified organic my man Jordan out San Diego
He roast coffee and we've been talking for years and and he's like let's make

(35:32):
A Isaac Wisehop branded coffee and I was like we fucking love his coffee. Yeah, we do so
He and I did a joint venture
Called the mushroom and naughty watcher coffee
Now he actually uses certified organic fair trade coffees
Certified organic triple extracted mushroom distillate oils to infuse the coffee

(35:55):
But he can't put certified organic and or say it certified organic on the bag
Because that requires like all this funding of like things you gotta do
Like the third party or something like that
But he's got the documents because he showed them to me of like they're actually organic materials
But it would cost so much more and like there's no the profit margins are very slim on the coffee
Yeah, I don't know people when they go to when they go to a cult symbolism.com link in the show notes

(36:18):
There'll be like damn Isaac's 30 bucks for a 10 ounce bag. Yeah, it's expensive. It's the best. It's if you're looking to add
mushroom
Supplementation to your diet. It's the best way to do it. I think I've been interested in mushrooms
I read a whole book about it medicinal mushrooms by Christopher Obs
um
And this is the best way to get like all the beta glue cans that you can get out of the mushroom bodies and the fruiting bodies and all the stuff

(36:42):
It's got a mix of organic mushroom extracts Raci Chaga, Missima, lion's main turkey tails, Chitake, blase
I don't know if I'm saying that right a garicon and oyster
So uh anyway, yeah, and I promised if you're on the patreon or the apple supporters feed you're not gonna hear this ad again
It's like you're plugged into

(37:03):
It's like you're plugged into a socket
Electrical socket
I just I feel my hair growing
Anyway, so we have well the the reason I was bitch all weekend is because I had beef with gumroad
because
I went to put the coffee on the gum road

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And they were like you can't sell physical products on here. I said what are you talking about?
I mean some physical products on here books shirts
Trying to get coffee on there for 15 years
What do you mean when I do a physical products? What are you even talking about?
So I messaged the customer service. I said what are you guys doing?
And they're like yeah, we're we're not letting you do physical products anymore. I was like whoa

(37:46):
Okay, well thanks. I guess and then she was like and I'm looking at your records and looks like your accounts suspended for
Anyway for not safe for work content
And I said what is not safe for work? We went back and forth she escalated to a manager
But meanwhile while we're doing that was Friday
I was trying to get to the bottom of it, but they I guess closed for the weekend or whatever

(38:08):
I'm like damn it man. So I
I bought a URL and set up a whole new
Shop page at occultsymbolism.com and I'm moving all my
My paperbacks my shirts and my mushroom coffee is all gonna be there now
Which sucks because I've been plugging my gum road like for years
What doesn't suck is that it's so much easier website to find
Occultsymbolism.com is easier than

(38:30):
Gumroad.com/isacw. Yeah, they know one knows how to spell Isaac
ever as well as I S a CC
So I mean, maybe it's a good thing and then fast forward to today and we escalated to a manager manager was like I just unsuspended in your account
That's our system being
Pick being what do you call like nitpicky on the words you're using?

(38:53):
What was the word that I don't know I emailed the back and I say like illuminati
I we're gonna have a real problem of the no like the word illuminati
Um, oh wait who's this is the shop of fire is this oh?
So you're talking about is something else I found out when I went to purchase a URL
To put my my store on
I was gonna call you're talking to me in computer shit. Are you talking about shop of fire? Are you talking about?

(39:18):
Not shopify. I'm talking about gumroad. Okay, so when you have a Shopify account you can create you can link it to your website
Okay, so I wanted to do a illuminati watcher dot shop
Okay, instead of that went to Shopify and now would connect to my Shopify
So people just have would have to go to you know illuminati watcher dot shop or whatever

(39:41):
problem is
Name cheap my the problem is the place where I was gonna buy the website name from
Said that that's a banned term you can't use the word illuminati and
When you buy it from name cheap the company they won't let you do it interesting. I was like, oh, okay
That explains why my website took such a massive hit 10 years ago. Yeah, because I used to crush it on website visits

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Now you can't even find me. Yeah
So
So I bought a call it symbolism dot com anyway. Okay, and the gumroad manager wrote
Uh
Well, it's annoying because you didn't actually violate any terms the system gave this reason for your suspension
quote the content includes references to explicit sexual activities

(40:26):
Drugs and prostitution which you're not allowed
What are you talking about? I have no idea because all I do is I send out every time I create a new episode
Uh-huh. I'll be like new episode. This is the title. This is the artwork. Here's what it's about go check it out
It's generally all my email my messages I send out uh-huh and gumroad has a way I can send it on an email there an email list there

(40:49):
Uh-huh, and that's all I do
I don't know anything about explicit sexual activities drugs or prostitution for sure
Well, I mean if they're looking at if you were talking about the
P-ditty stuff. Oh, maybe they could have like flag your content. So if they have AI like
scour your information which I'm sure that's what they're doing. They just have the I scouring your transcript totally and then

(41:15):
Them seeing these words
Dude, what the hell what am I saying? Maybe this is why I'm getting in trouble. What are you saying? That's all you'd say
Yeah, so you're whole yeah, well how am I supposed to talk about things? How do you talk about stuff if you if everything's gonna get picked up by AI and then have you shuffled to the
Shuffled to the fucking but the basement. That's why people have to like I'm going full unibomber

(41:37):
I'm so anti AI and technology at this point. I know it's making like what you want to disney fire everything
Well, I I can't say the word sex
And I can't talk about
X to see drugs
Exactly what's your fucking children keep your kids off the scott damn show and my shit. I don't give a fuck you know, I mean yeah

(41:57):
It's like kids go enjoy Disney shit Marvel whatever the fuck you kids do go do that. Yeah, like why I just it drives me nuts
And I think it's gonna be on the internet. It should really internet and like this is not supposed to be on the fucking internet. Yes, it's not safe
It's not safe. Why would you put your kids in a place that's not safe? You lunatics keep them away from me

(42:19):
So I can use the terms I want us talking talk about things like a human being
It's so insane. Yeah, it's because they want and you know, it's crazy
Since I'm all fucking super high T right now you're fired up
Ian Carroll the guy we've talked about many times in this show because I know
I don't know what to know about the guy. I tried to set up an interview. He will he dodges me 100% of the time

(42:41):
Whatever I don't even know I don't want to think about the guy
But I did see he's got a YouTube channel now, okay, and he played a little clip that I saw on his Instagram and on the clip
He's talking about
He's not using any wrong words. He's talking about vaccines and how we take too many vaccines and I was like totally state totally

(43:03):
Yeah totally makes all the sense of the world
And then I click on the video because I'm like what the fuck video is this how are they letting this happen if I say vaccine one time
I'm fucking done. Yeah, I click on the YouTube video the title of the video is talking about
Something about a shooter and a shooting
Not a pew-pewing yeah a shooting in the title of the fucking shit. I would get torched so fast. Yeah

(43:28):
Tell me he's not a fucking asset
You know what I mean?
Someone tell it to my fucking face
Tell me so I can believe your bullshit
This is such fucking horse shit all these guys are plugged into something. Yeah, and I'm not part of the club and I'm fucking pissed
I'm jealous. You know, I'm a hater. They call me a hater. I'm spotifying like you god damn right. I'm a hater

(43:48):
Where do I sign the fucking double contract? Let me in
Tired of I'm just so tired of like rebuilding websites and moving shit. It's like I'm so exhausted with it
You've done it a bazillion fucking time. I'm so exhausted with it
I saw I was telling someone because I posted about a patreon and they're like dude
I'm never seeing we get harassed more than this. I'm like I
I'm so exhausted with it you guys like I'm just I was talking about on an interview. I did today. I was like

(44:12):
honestly like
There's a small part of me that just wants to go work in the fucking day job full time and not deal with this like it's it's so frustrating. Yeah
It sucks if I wasn't for patreon. I'd I'd fucking quit in a second. I'd like sorry guys. I don't know what to tell you good luck
Yeah, go listen to fucking jackasses that are paid off by who knows what right
Anyway

(44:37):
You want to do tear two shadows?
Speaking of patreon
It's so it's like it's maddening it is it's maddening I think if I put my energy if I put 15 years of energy into literally anything else
We'd be set I'm like we're fucking good to go baby. Yeah. I don't know why I chose this come a fucking idiot

(45:02):
I mean I just sometimes I wish like why couldn't I just be like into fucking one of those nerd funco pops or whatever
Why couldn't I just do a show about action figures from the 80s or wrestling or some shit
Just something safe
Just something safe. Yeah
It's not what the heart wants though

(45:23):
Because you're a bad boy
Ah take that take that
I do that shout out some right. We're gonna patreon you want to keep this train on the tracks
You can support the show like these beautiful people here
We've got tear one which gets you ad free early access sometimes bonus content and then you got me you're busy all of the time

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I didn't I didn't look at you like that I just you did you look right at I just want to see if you laugh at that because it's true
Sometimes bonus content you are so busy. When are we gonna fucking do that?
The problem is you're busy too
No, I'm not I'm literally fucking around all right. I'm we're gonna do a bonus show in August
I don't know what it's about. We're doing one. I have to I do have to do my okay. Go ahead

(46:08):
I have some things some ideas
Go ahead. I'm putting on my little my little boomer paper checklist. I've got here
I'm doing it right here
Bonus show we're doing it in August so go sign up now so you get the bonus show you we don't know what it is yet
But you're gonna love it in a fucking love it. Okay, and tear two folks

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We appreciate you you're in the tear two and we give you a monthly shout out. So here's your monthly shout out for August
This is a new one. We got a new one on here
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The mushroom and Adi watcher that one
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Cheryl and Francine thank you guys all of you for supporting this show if you want to support the show
You know what I was doing with the links in the show is patreon.com/breakingsocialnorms. Okay
Now Galeen Maxwell
Or wait, we already talked about all that. Do we?
Yeah, I think Galeen's done. So anyway, so what are you okay? She's out soon. Oh the no the the

(47:56):
We have more about the Galeen the prison video right?
Oh the Epstein yeah the Epstein video. Did you know that they had Galeen in the same prison that they had Epstein?
I saw that I didn't know that before today. Yeah, I didn't know that either. I mean I would make sense
I think it was the same Southern District of New York shit where did he was and everything
Yeah, the video that

(48:19):
Give me photos there are of Galeen Maxwell and Epstein and Trump
How many photos do you think there are there's got to be 20
Try 263 get out of here 263 where do you find that online?
I mean, they're not in my personal

(48:42):
So someone needs to make a slideshow that I find it hard to believe fucking crazy. I find that hard to believe
I'm skeptical. Okay, it might be wrong because it did come from take talk and take a
Hey, God. Let's see how many photos of Epstein and Trump because I thought there was just like 30
Yeah, I would say 20 to 30

(49:05):
So I just did a search getty images the headlines is 423 Trump and Epstein photos. There you go
425 when I click it. Well some of these are just Trump
With probably a different Epstein
Well, I don't know go out to look into this one

(49:27):
That's interesting. There's 263 that's fucking insane. That's an insane amount of photos
I don't have that many photos of my family
No
Why do you rich? Do you think rich people you know how
It's so difficult for us to leave the house and go do things yeah like by the weekend

(49:49):
You're just like I just want to sit on my ass all weekend. I won't do shit. Yeah, but these rich people they get dressed up in suits and dresses
multiple times a week
I would argue probably seven nights a week they go out when did they watch
Housewives exactly in the back of the label watch fucking love island. What is this lifestyle like?

(50:12):
I bet it's a goddamn nightmare. I bet it's the worst. I do what do we even want this no
No, I just I don't I feel like I feel like the reason you see there's 263 photos is because
I think these guys were partying constantly. You know who else was on the list
Huh who's on the flight line or on the flight log? Mm-hmm

(50:33):
Um rfk
Yeah, oh yeah I knew that
What the fuck yeah, do you know that before the election? No. Oh, yeah, for sure. He was definitely on the list
He's on a hit with Epstein. Yes
And him with Gillane that's why I was making that joke. I was like say which one about Kamala Harris
She's there's there's nobody in her camp that was on the Epstein list. That's half the people in the Trump cabinet

(50:58):
That's crazy and that's not an endorsement of Kamala for all the people out there like
I don't think she's great. I don't think her binary terrible better than this
I would say they're better than this though come on
Better than this fuck off any who so so he was on there and he got interviewed and he was like listen

(51:19):
I was just on the plane with a bunch of like other people but I had my wife and I had my kids
And I just hopped on so we could get a quick jet over to South Dakota all of it bullshit and he said the only reason he was friends was because
His first wife, which did you hear about his first wife?
Again, I don't know if this is true or not she committed suicide because he was nonstop fucking around on her

(51:44):
Yeah, he wrote all their names and like a journal about it. Yeah
Yeah, he's a fucking psychopath. He's a psychopath totally and but also by the way there was a fucking
There was a
Shark found in a river in Idaho
Dead on the side of the fucking river

(52:06):
The same fucking week that RFK was in Idaho. Oh
That's weird
I like his environmental stances though. I like some of his stances. I think he's a weirdo
And I and I and I
You know, I try to be maybe this is the high testosterone talking

(52:28):
Where are the normal people that give a shit about that I want the nerds the quiet meek
Lovely nerds. We got aggressive nerds. We have all we have our filled with rage. They're filled with nerd anger
That want to fucking kill everything. Did you see the interview where Peter Till got asked how if he cares about humanity and saving humanity and he's like

(52:49):
um
No, he doesn't give a shit about humanity. Yeah, not a fucking care in the world. Yeah, the whole I watched the whole interview and took notes on it for my book
Oh, you did yeah
The thing he's he was like damn near crying because he was so upset at how
Technology isn't where he wants it to be

(53:10):
These nerds are like I wanted it to look like a cyberpunk anime world
And it's not
You guys suck the technology like is this making life worse and worse and worse it seems
Anyway, my point was I used to reserve judgment of the Epstein stuff

(53:31):
But now I I'm ready to just condemn everybody like if your name's on the flight log you're out. I don't you're a petapol
You're a petapol go to report to prison now. Yeah, I'll give a fuck who's on that list
Bill Clinton put him in prison. Yep, rock about put him in prison. Yep
I don't think Obama's on the list, but Bill Clinton was right. Yeah, I don't care if you're being gross
Of their has to you know it takes a fucking village to rape children

(53:54):
And I'm gonna be part of that fucking village
I we're not yeah, I don't want to say here to him haul around of like well he went to the other 20 times
But I don't think so he was just
here
No, there's a lot of pedophiles and I think the people that enable that are like you got to go to all you got to go
Yeah, you guys you know you want to save the children. This is how we do it

(54:15):
No shorts no losses rfk get in the fucking alligator alcatraz bitch
You fucking peto sympathizers
I think we're gonna have to edit some of this hell no full send
Okay, go ahead the
The prison video
Apparently they saw an orange jumpsuit figure did you see that I did

(54:40):
What does that mean it means that Epstein's not dead
You think that was Epstein in the orange dumps. Yes, he's not dead. I believe this to my score
Really? Why? Why would they let him live?
Because he's there buddy he ain't too dangerous. He just can't be Epstein anymore
Hmm he ain't too dangerous

(55:02):
He's alive
He's alive there's it's I when I saw that that little orange jumpsuit over there
It is my fuck I I'm like I know this in my fucking gut. All right. You heard your first
That guy is not dead everybody thinks that Bill Clinton or somebody killed him who killed him

(55:22):
Trump obviously Trump killed him because Trump was in office when it happened nope he's out
I and they were looking at the body they were sitting there talking about
Who said this somebody was like I think cash betel was like yeah, uh
You know
If you know anything about suicide that guy committed suicide

(55:42):
Like what do we do cash
Well, it's really interesting cash
What a freaking insight
Anyway, so he with like to me the the family came out to the cash betel statement
And they were like what the fuck are you even talking about what family
Uh Epstein's family. Oh, okay came out was like that you're

(56:07):
What does that even mean if you know anything about one if you've ever seen one like he's this
He seems a photo and is like that looks just like that yeah
cash betel is like isn't he a podcaster? I don't know what his back he was a podcaster. Yes
I don't know what his qualifications are
Just being a fucking just a cool guy with fucking podcast man

(56:28):
That guy is so sus he goes on there and what did he say he was on Joe Rogan sitting there talking when the Elon
Stuff was getting dropped and what did he say? I know my lane and that's not my lane. I'm not I'm not responding to that
What?
What? Yeah to be the director of the FBI not and it just I don't know it's a weird statement says he

(56:53):
Study criminal justice in history of the University of Richmond graduated from pace
Worked as a public defender then a federal public defender
Department of justice
Uh was in
He was in the Obama Department of Justice became a senior a to devonunias
where he

(57:14):
Was the primary author of the nunya's memo which I don't know what that I've heard that I don't know what that means
alleging that the FBI officials abused their authority in the investigation into the links between Trump and Russia
Okay, that's why he got the job because Trump obviously likes that right okay
I mean he's got a background in legal stuff. I don't know how that makes qualified to run the intelligence agencies, but

(57:37):
whatever
Huh he knows his lane
Yeah
Making the circuits. I love it when I see
uh
politicians in
Podcasting
It just gives me the warm and fuzzy set there they're just there for to be public servants

(58:01):
What do you mean? It's like bullshit you fucking weirdos. They want to be famous. Oh right. Yeah, there's there's so busy trying to be fucking famous
Yeah, which is humiliating
Did you see that
There was an event at the White House
Where I think they were doing an announcement for some kind of uh

(58:25):
It's the presidential fitness test for American children and he brought up Lawrence Taylor to do the announcement
Yes
literal child rapist
He loves him. I mean what the fuck dude when republicans say that they love children they mean they

(58:48):
love children
It's so strange they don't care if they're fed or if they have housing or they have access to health care
But they definitely love them just not in the way that we think they do
Let's make sure we have the the non-stop

(59:09):
Access to the wall strange
next um
I remember when we were talking about doing this show and we both said
We're gonna keep it classy
Did we though? I did I was like I'm gonna be very respectful
I'm not gonna be outlandish. I'm gonna keep it

(59:31):
tight
That's all out the fucking window
The you sent me a Timothy McVeigh look alike
Yes
It's um
What was his name? Oh, I didn't write his name down. He looks exactly like a guy
That's oh boy good story, huh

(59:52):
Um
Shit what's this V FBI direct or he's a FBI guy?
Are you is that the one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Let's see Timothy McVeigh look alike. I know because I know people are gonna want to know who I'm talking about
Paul white white supple white supple
related to wise up

(01:00:15):
Anyways, is an FBI agent involved in the investigation and he looks identical and he then he sounds identical. He sounds identical
I mean, it's uncanny. It's weird. You think they would take him off the case just because of that be like hey dude you look exactly like the guy
And then you look at the the
Challenger astronauts that that died

(01:00:35):
That and how they're still alive maybe crazy
I mean what's going on here?
Is everything bullshit?
This is like real black pill territory we're entering here
I mean it seems like it
But then they were said then there's another video that said
One of the cops that was gonna win a medal of valor at the Oklahoma City bombing

(01:01:00):
was
People about four people
Yeah, and he was supposed to get an award
He was forced to rewrite his report of the bombing and he started like worrying about something happening to him
So he told his ex-wife like hey, we need to remarry so I can get the kids protected with insurance or something like that
I don't remember what

(01:01:20):
And he kept saying how he was worried something was gonna happen to him and then he
Wink wink killed himself
but
Cutting himself 30 times slicing his throat twice and then
Having tons of blood in his car on a old like a old country road
And then drug himself. What was it like 8,000 yards or how far was he out? He crawled

(01:01:42):
8,000 feet which is about a half
And then shot himself then shot himself
You know like a normal suicide
That's so freaking weird man. Well now what's interesting is that McVeigh and Terry Nichols the other guy involved
were allegedly listeners of bill Cooper

(01:02:05):
In his hour of the time show
Now I'm wondering how much of this is real because their whole thing was all these awful baby killers
They were into conspiracy theories and they were against the government anti-government people
And I think the message there is like oh you can't trust these people and that's kind of like

(01:02:28):
Why I can't make posts on gumrolled without them thinking I'm
Trafficking people or something whatever they thought I was doing that I got flagged
So I can't keep a YouTube channel because shit like this and maybe that's by design
They want to keep this dangerous you can't talk about things is too dangerous right and it works because look at me like I'm like

(01:02:50):
I'm literally saying like
Some days I think I just would rather just work more
Just go in the office an extra day
Take a nice dump on the work clock
You know
Low stress
Because that's what the system wants they want you to just go along and watch your

(01:03:15):
Summer blog western movie Superman. I've been wanting to watch Superman. Can't watch it
And
You know
Just go with the program. Why are you?
pushing back feel free until they push against the guard rails
Anybody that yes has any kind of like
Non conformity any you get notified real quick

(01:03:42):
Yeah, there's a social construct and they keep you in the little box
Anyway, so the CEOs and the billionaires
Not having a good year
It's murder

(01:04:02):
You know that guy the midtown Manhattan shooter
That's what it just happened. Yeah, okay, they're telling us he had a three page
No, and they showed us one page that is his scribble saying
How he has CTE and we need to look into
Than a bell or whatever

(01:04:23):
Because of high school football. Mm-hmm. Well, I think they say that. Isn't that true? They're like you can get CTE when you're young
Is the problem
Well, I mean even just a little bit of exposure. Why would they go why would he go after the NFL?
Well, that's the conspiracy that you sent me someone was talking about
How because he took out a black rock executive

(01:04:46):
He went to the black rock
floor not the NFL floor. Yeah
Yeah, cuz in the news they were saying he mistakenly went to the wrong floor
Cuz I remember reading that when I was doing a little show about it
What how do they know oops?
Oops he drove

(01:05:06):
Part double parked in the road
goes in
kills the CEO
Of black rock. Well, it's not the CEO, but an executive
No, she is the isn't she the CEO why are they saying it's she's like the CEO
Well, then what is she why are they saying she's a CEO? How many she is either I thought that there was multiple

(01:05:30):
I thought you only had one CEO not multiple CEOs
Let me look here
Blackstone political you got to subscribe
Wesley lay pat ner an executive who's oversaw blackstones real estate fund was among four killed Monday
So she's an executive but not the chief executive. Oh, okay

(01:05:56):
Why do they say she's a CEO? Larry think sorry Larry think is the CEO CEO
He's a real piece of work, too
So he went in there killed four
executives
Yeah, I want to tell these crazy shooters like
You're so close you're so close to taking out the people that we really should take out, you know

(01:06:18):
You're very close. I
Anyway
the um
the
Claim put out is that the theory being put out is that he was going after blackrock because his blackrock bought up a lot of American real estate

(01:06:39):
Remember how there was the whole thing about that
And his parents allegedly got an eviction notice on their house and that's what sparked this
Because she managed the real estate shit okay for blackrock so that kind of makes sense I guess okay
So she's a manager of the real estate is she's executive over the real estate portfolio apparently okay an executive over it

(01:07:00):
And the claim is that
They don't want
Americans
to
I don't know because you saw having Luigi and everyone's like sympathetic towards Luigi because they're like yeah, I shouldn't murder anyone but
It's like you're kind of murdering people by denying their health care coverage too, so yeah, it's kind of the sentiment right mm-hmm and

(01:07:25):
They don't want another one of those to happen because they see that they're hands full of Luigi. What's what's the latest with him?
I heard he's gonna walk
There it's been real quiet. I think he's gonna walk
Why I don't know that's what everybody's saying. I didn't hear why though mm-hmm
The word is on the tiktok that he's walking but again tiktok's bullshit, so mm-hmm

(01:07:50):
And then there was an article on Forbes that had 31 billionaires who died in the last 12 months
31
Okay, this is what I think though a lot of those
billionaires and ex-CEOs that have been that have died they were very old
Yeah, most of them were like in their 80s

(01:08:10):
So that makes sense, but there's only I think there's something like 800 billionaires in America mm-hmm
30's big number
Well, I don't know. Maybe that's not that big because I mean you got to think most billionaires are old enough to
Achieve that level of wealth
So maybe that's really not that shocking. Maybe that's normal

(01:08:32):
Well, I mean for 80-year-olds and 70-year-olds to die. It's not that shocking. Yeah, because at first I was like oh damn
What's happening? But the one guy that was the health the other healthcare guy that got killed a couple of years months ago
Was that guy's name?
Remember he was in the hotel who's at it like a marriott and they overdose
Wait, what are you up? There's another CEO that was the other coming out and saying that he was murdered

(01:08:57):
But they thought he would just had a drug overdose
It's like the bald guy
He was murdered
He was in a fucking marriott. Go you got the fucking clicking the thing right in front of you
Tell me what they're going to
Health care executives health care or health care CEO killed at hotel killed at hotel

(01:09:20):
brings up that brine Tom said hey look up
Uh overdosed at a hotel oh
Oh
Nicholas Manning yes, oh a 46 year old CEO of an Idaho Medical Center
Found dead at the Baltimore. Yeah, I'm Baltimore. Yeah

(01:09:43):
I didn't hear about this. Oh, you didn't looks like Jeff Bezos or yes like Slyuther or something
Family believes it was not an accident. No signs of trauma were observed on the victim's body
That's crazy. Do you have the flu?
Says it's ongoing. This is back in June

(01:10:05):
Interesting
Well, anyways the theory being cooked up is that there's a real problem
With uh
Vigilante justice going on. I don't know if that's true. It seems a little
Frenzy. I don't know if it's true because most of those billionaires are pretty old
Unless all of those billionaires are on the Epstein list and they think they're going to fucking get outed

(01:10:30):
Oh, and then they're faking their deaths
Interesting
And that did you see you sent me a video it was the Department of Homeland Security Secretary
meorcus
was crying about how
How concerning it is that Americans are sympathizing with Luigi calling him a hero. Uh-huh

(01:10:53):
I don't know
I even hate my t-shirt
The
The um there's a CEO in Utah that died recently too that guy that lifetime CEO died in that car accident though
Was it was it? I don't know no he was he was just driving down the road and

(01:11:14):
Well, there's legislation that they're trying to push through to make it illegal for congress members to buy
individual stocks because of all the
You know corruption type stuff going on there. Uh-huh Nancy Pelosi. Yeah
And it's got bipartisan supports called the ending trading and holdings and congressional stocks ethics act

(01:11:39):
Very smart play on the acronym there ethics. They should not be able to so we'll see what happens
I actually got introduced like two years ago, so
You can see I'll fast with the quickness. Yeah, taking care of the ethics doing their feats
With that one
Well, that's all I got

(01:12:01):
Is there anything else I missed any big ones?
What do you think the orange thing is on the Epstein video if it's not Epstein walking out of the
I mean could it just be a prisoner mop in the floor or something?
I didn't watch the whole 12 hour video
Did he commit suicide?

(01:12:21):
Yeah, I don't know do they know do they have a time? I mean yeah, they would have a time. Yeah, that's a good question
Did they have prisoners out and about at that time or was everybody in lockdown? What time did Epstein kill?
Yeah, you think that with a corner they would be able to pinpoint like what hour
And like that's the only part of the footage we need to see I mean obviously you want they want to show like the hours before and after

(01:12:47):
So you can see if anyone went in there or whatever but the um
You would think that
What doesn't show anything anyways are missing a whole minute. Yeah
Yeah, they don't really doesn't really say
What time just says July on CNN says prisoners officers fine Epstein on the floor of his cell

(01:13:08):
With the bed sheet around his neck
That whole thing was weird too because they said that he had like bones in his neck crushed that
wouldn't
Have happened with a sheet
That's why I think that's not him they put someone else in there dragging them to death. Yeah
Could I wonder if they could exume him and then do a DNA test against his brother

(01:13:30):
Ha
She now bodies look different when they're dead
Yeah, don't look like the person really there was photos of his body being taken out of the
Out of the prison
Well if we have the body why not just exume and do a DNA
Shit, they won't even release the list

(01:13:52):
Yeah, but the family doesn't need that
The family doesn't need Epstein's family Epstein's family doesn't need a list released. Yeah, they could just do it. He could just they could just
Have it done can it be yeah
Say like use that video of
Them as evidence to say we think he might be alive. We want to see if this is his body. Oh interesting

(01:14:16):
There's so isn't the whole thing is so bizarre like
I don't understand what the game plan is here with the weird gas lighting
Because you know bongino and patel were sitting there saying we saw the video we know he killed himself
And we've got it. We're gonna release it. Oh, and we're gonna release two copies one

(01:14:39):
That's been edited for for clarity and the other one not so you know there's no funny business
Did they ever release a second one or just the one? I don't know. I've only ever heard of the one
And I'm not watching 11 hours of virtually nothing to confirm it, but people have and they uh
They were the ones that were like hey, there's a fucking minute missing

(01:15:00):
So it's like you you hype all this up
The most transparent president ever
We got the video without a doubt he killed himself
There's no without a doubt you're missing a minute
There's some weird orange jumpsuit figure there uh-huh
And like this doesn't prove anything like if you do a video inside of his cell and you and you saw him like doing all the stuff to kill himself

(01:15:21):
Like that's one thing. I'd be like okay. All right
But that's not what we saw like how could they be so conclusive about it
Well, and I thought that you started showing yourself I thought all of the cameras according to
Back when this happened all of the cameras were not
Ramel functioning or broken. Yeah, and the guards were asleep at their desk. Yes, both of us. That was the story. That was the story. Yeah

(01:15:48):
And I mean you can't get that that's what they fucking told us. Yeah, now it's changed completely to oh yeah, there's video here and video we got it
I guess it's it's it's maddening because
Um, it's like 1984 they call this double thing
Like they'll literally tell you two versions of the story

(01:16:12):
And they beat you down enough that you just are like I don't know what's going on who cares. Yeah, I guess what they want
I know they're gonna get it with this one though. This one might be the big doozy
They gotta do something and I think they're cooking up something to get people to shut up about it
Hmm it'll be a war

(01:16:33):
You think so. Uh-huh
What do you mean? They'll put us in a war.
Ugh
That's dark
You're right though. That would get everybody to stop talking about it. Yeah, that's one thing you could do
They'll have a big giant event in
The states that'll put us into a war

(01:17:00):
If everybody was smart like other countries you know all of the stuff that's going on with
Like the Middle East and the blue and white
country
That if they were smart they would not
Get manipulated into doing one fucking thing
Because that's what I think I think that everything's a manipulation

(01:17:22):
Like do they do it? They get breadcrumbed into like doing
Crazy shit or do or is it not even a
Or is it just CIA dressed up like you know how like the Mormons dressed up like
Indians and then mass occurred a bunch of of settlers. Yeah

(01:17:43):
Is it the CIA dressing up as these things like like the like the
Tim and he makes me yes is it the FBI dressing up as
Yeah, it's our nationalist because that hate or I'm sorry uh of
A government hating white guy and it's just plausible enough that

(01:18:03):
That you were like well, I mean it would kind of it's like
Bill Cooper is kind of like your modern-day Alex Jones
So it kind of makes sense that people the listen Alex Jones would storm the Capitol
Because like yeah, he's like rhyming these people up to hate the government hate
Everyone in there
So like it's believable enough, but then you know churches would be like no those were FBI agents

(01:18:29):
trying to I don't know what they're
What the I don't know what the effort was but
There were the FBI agents trying to like make Trump and his people look bad or whatever the idea was there
Well, what what happened in the 80s with the um with the
crack epidemic like they flooded the street that was our government that did that that's not even conspiracy

(01:18:53):
Right they flooded all of the poor neighborhoods
And got people addicted to um
Crack
So that they could fund what a guerrilla warfare the nico wad one to shut down communism and nico roguer
I can never say that word nico nico roguer. What the hell's wrong my voice

(01:19:16):
So my tonsils got taken out now you can't say words like pool. I can't say pool
Or nico roguer
I
Don't know okay, well
Maybe next week we'll solve all the questions. I
Think we should put a video together and stick it on YouTube of all of the tiktok's that

(01:19:41):
Can you do that josey's tiktok compilation? Yeah, it's a compilation of oh and the one thing that you didn't say anything about one of my favorite ones
was the
um
Was the shooting in Pennsylvania what I didn't even see that

(01:20:02):
There's a video from like a bystander EA
Well, sorry um in pa of the like of a person that was just at the
The stomach convention. What's it called uh trumps
Rally okay at the rally oh the baller rally. Yeah, when he got shot. Yeah

(01:20:25):
and literally there's a shooting happening
The president is binge shot you have all of the secret service on top of him
Not one person is running in the crowd
Does everybody stand in there no one ducking no ducking nothing really
Can you hear the gunshots on the video clip? I don't know, but you see all of the secret service on top of the president or on top of

(01:20:54):
That trump i mean a gun shot you would hear that
I'm sure, but i don't know if they had music behind it or not
No, because he was talking he was giving a presentation. No, I mean the video that i saw
Huh
The video i saw it's interesting added but if you're in the middle of a shooting. Oh, why isn't everybody running? Yeah
Yeah, right

(01:21:16):
You think that would be the universal response
That's what my response would be yeah, yeah, I hear
Pop pop pop pop pop I'm fucking running. Yeah
Yeah, you definitely wouldn't just stand there you're just gonna sit there and
Well, that that shit's as fake as the moon landing
I think it might be

(01:21:38):
Hmm well
Lots of mischievous I want to put all of those videos. I want to put the compilation of
all of the
Times trump said that he stole the election that Elon was great with computers
with the Elon saying that he

(01:21:59):
When he was getting interviewed by what's the guy with the bow tie
Tucker Tucker Carlson saying how ball of Carlson who he does kabale he's got the kabale bracelet. Yeah
That he and his dad was an intelligence agent. Oh really totally normal behavior
Though we trust him

(01:22:20):
Well, Tucker is saying the shit that I agree with now. That's what's weird to him and
In the cantus owns like start flip floppy and around and you're like well wait a minute
All right, that's all I got you got anything else? Nope, that's it
We're gonna make a video. I just want to put them all together. What I want to do is just do a one big long video

(01:22:41):
I'll do a little intro that here's all the things we talked about
And piece them all together. Yeah, all right. We can do that. Is that easy enough?
I think so what to go through here and see if I can put together
Second publish the link to it in the show notes. I hopefully you see it in the show notes
And you check out the video of all these things

(01:23:03):
and
The link to the new store are called symbolism.com
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Okay, all right wall thanks for listening everybody

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What's the matter? Okay, I'm a little nervous about this
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