We Went to Twin Peaks! Secrets From the Palmer House, Sheryl Lee, Ray Wise & the REAL Great Northern Hotel!

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Due to popular demand from some photos we posted on the Instagram with some very famous celebrities from Twin Peaks today

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We've got a special edition of Breaking Social Arms that we're going into the gray lodge
We're gonna walk you through the highlights of the Twin Peaks afternoon tea with the Palmer's at the Laura Palmer House in
Everett, Washington
a trip over to Keonelodge, AK the Great Northern Hotel and I'm gonna reveal to you some provocative
Questions that we ask the stars of Twin Peaks. We'll also give our hot takes on Seattle bikes place markets some overall

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Opinions of the Pacific Northwest we are your hosts of Breaking Social Arms
My name is Isaac Wiseau. I'm a self-professed expert on recall symbolism
And I'm writing my tenth book on the occult aspects of Twin Peaks
I'm joined by my beautiful co-host Josie Wiseau who I've dragged into my world and she provides the
Normie perspective of life outside of the conspiracy bubble and today we're all going back to Twin Peaks

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Now did you write that or was actually I wrote that I'm over chat. I'm pretty much
Thank you. Yeah, I just I think AI's bullshit. I think it's a lie at this point
I'm waiting for the bubble to pop well
I think that you and Sam Altman are on the same
Understanding because I've listened to a few of

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His interviews. Uh-huh, and I think he thinks the same thing really that the I thought he's gonna live up to the the hype
And I started to give them the digital matrix that they want. I mean, I could be wrong and I hope I'm wrong
Well, no, I hope I'm right in this one. Yeah, we don't want to be in the matrix, but no, I think that I think that they
I don't know my perspective

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From what they say and what they want and what it seems is
The more money time and energy you put into something the further it can go and I don't know if that's necessarily true
With technology until we have a breakthrough on some stuff and maybe it does take time money and energy
But I just don't think we are there and that's

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I don't when people hang their hat on that chat GPT because I've seen this like there's tic talks out there where
Especially older people. Mm-hmm. They think that this is
The end I'll be all of all of the information old people do yeah like this guy was on there. He was like listen

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I I literally have to have
conversations with my boss through chat GPT
So like he'll record he'll have the chat GPT listening and then have the chat GPT respond
In their business like he owns a business and then chat GPT will respond to how they're gonna move forward

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And what I don't think the old person understands or the the guy that owns a business is that um
AI will
Confidently say shit wrong. Mm-hmm. It's the worst um
What's the young generation people shit on for being think they'd fucking know everything Gen Z Gen Z
It's a why I don't like that

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Yeah, I got right there buddy. Well, you know who uh, you know how we can tie this back into in peaks
The movie robo cop which showed us the future have you ever seen robo cop?
I mean maybe a long time ago. I was too little to like know it all to remember anything. Well, it's got three major twin-peaks celebrities
It's got ray wise who we met

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Who was great? We're gonna talk about that. We're gonna we're gonna go through chronologically the trip that we took
Uh, there's three legs of this trip. Yes, you make me run from fucking three different places. I know it's terrible
Into this world
but uh, not and you know, it's been it's been

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Pretty hectic around the wise hop house all this month. Yes, you've reached your final destination
And it doesn't stop. I mean we're cramming this podcast in
Literally in the only hour and a half that we've got free you know
14-day period. Yes, which is insane. I mean, I don't know who do we think we are? Why are we this business now? Why are we still not even that cool? Like what is wrong with us?

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So we're gonna you know and thank god
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All right, I don't I'm not wearing headphones. I sweat too much to wear the headphones. I can't hear if I hit the
Put the headphones like half off your ear. Yeah, I should maybe in the future because anyway, you sweat that much. Oh my god
I'm it's brutal
It's brutal hot
If I can put anti-perspirant on your head or something just hot. I'm just hot constantly

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It's probably from all this coffee
Yeah, but we got I want it down a little bit stop take a half a pot instead of an entire I literally drink one fucking cup out of that whole entire pot that you're fucking drinking bizarre
Yeah, we'll talk about Seattle and you know, we got some coffee. Oh boy. I think I had the best

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I'm gonna say right now the best pumpkin spice latte I've ever had in my life
The best and find out where
If I just take it out case I forget when we went to Baines bridge island to go check out Kiana Lodge
We went to the Hitchcock Cafe shout out to Hitchcock Cafe. Oh the best pumpkin spice latte I've ever had it was delicious

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extra spicy
My only
My only complaint was like all of the goo fell to the bottom and so that last shot was like
Pumpkin come
The big wad of it in my mouth. So I just feel like they needed a like a big scarecrow load

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I mean pay to I need they need to get that like little mechanical stir thing that I have yeah
It's through that in a little bit better because
I first as it was it's a little unnerving to all of a sudden get a wad of shit in your mouth. So you know
A scared a bit spooky load
Yeah

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But you could look at it as the fun part at the end
Well if I'm fucking anticipating it I'm like you I can't wait for the goo
But like that's not the way that that one was I didn't I wasn't expecting it surprise it was a surprise ending
So

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Yeah, we got home to some amazing mailbag gifts check out my Instagram. I should have I should have collaborated
You know on this technology things. I'm old enough that it still kicks my ass. I should have collaborated with your account
On the videos, but I didn't so go to add Isaac Wysop Instagram. I got some
Some dope movie posters from Damien Shadot Damien and then cool be coming through with the rap gifts. That's extra awesome

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I love the people that listen to you. It's incredible. Huh?
You know what it is. It's and it's like when we want to Vegas happy you were fucks, but it's all right
I think even the fuck sometime they're all right when you get to talk to one of one they're great. You're like oh man. Why did you come off like
International style
I love me and the people which which we're gonna have a I wouldn't call it a special announcement, but we're planning something

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Surprise surprise in Seattle. We'll cover that when we get there all right
I think we love Seattle. I think we love Washington. I think we do a couple of old commie lives like us
Of course we do
We're about that dog life. I love it. I just think it's a great scene. Yeah, okay go. Okay, so let's start off

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You know, I won't I won't bore you with the airport trips stuff
but we got a
A Ford Bronco fuck you Ford piece of shit Ford Bronco. It was the sport bend
Ford Bronco sport big band addition. I was like, oh, okay big bend. Yeah, it was a big bend. Oh
I don't know what that is you could have fooled me. It had zero frills. Yeah, the windows didn't have the nice little like one

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Literally it was like one step above like crank it was insane cranking a window. I was like do they make cars like this anymore?
Like brand new cars anyway
Tell them as expected. I hate fucking domestic cars. I hate them. I hate them
You'll never convince me otherwise. I'll never buy domestic ever. I bought one Ford F with 15 is the biggest piece of shit ever bought

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I don't understand it. Why can't they do this? It's not that hard like
There's certain things that people like if they want to make like a cool. Why don't they bring back like a old fucking muscle car?
I ironically I do want like an old Camaro
The Mustang because those look sick old ones, but why not fucking do that now? Yeah

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They're making look fucking dope. Call me Ford. I have ideas. I have how you can make this fucking better
Because it was not a nice experience
Anyways, yeah, so the so yeah Ford sucked as huge and so we so we
We immediately know who sucks now to Nissan

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What the fuck is going on with Nissan?
Honda Honda Toyota I guess so we go to so we started off at the Salish Lodge, which is where they filmed the exterior shots of Twin Peaks great Northern hotel
And this is the second time we've been there
And it's great
It's insane

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If you want to go have a fun experience that's kind of state side like the people that work there are so fun and nice
Soon as you walk in let's set the scene they have a giant fucking fireplace that they're that they're cooking like real logs
And it smells up the entire place. It smells so freaking cool
And you walk in and they greet you and they get you checked in

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And then they have like a house made
Apple cider that you can get with whiskey
And I'm coming from Utah that shit does not fucking happen
So they bring you this gorgeous cup of like cider
And what was so great about that was that we were literally you were talking to me about how
Um the apples come from Washington and we don't eat enough apples shit while we're in Washington

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Yeah, that's right in the Fort Brock. I'm like now listen 90% of apples come from Washington this time we're here
We're gonna consume a lot of apples
So we were very hyped on the apples and then to walk in and have a cup of apple cider handed to us was fucking chef's kiss
That shit was awesome. They knew it was like they're listening
So we get this dope ass cup of fucking um cider and we're sitting nice to the hot

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fireplace
And it just
felt
And it was so
fucking gorgeous the drive coming in the leaves were in St. like so in Utah
Sometimes like it depends on the weather on how much color we get in our leaves when we get into the fall
Because if it's like I don't really know what determines when the leaves get bright and vivid

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And when the when they just turn brown and fall off the fucking tree, but there it's you've got a fucking 50 50 in Utah
if it's gonna if you're gonna have like a stunning
um
Fall or a vivid fall or if you're gonna have like a fucking
Turns they die and then they fall
Washington's leaves were

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spectacular
I couldn't even stand it it was like these fucking vibrant reds and these insane oranges
And the lights cut through the yellows it was so the right up there 10 out of 10
It just couldn't have felt more folly
And we did this last time we
We and and I'd look at the calendar because we've got a major

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Tip okay, so last time we went there two years ago we went the first week of October
This time we went this is like between the second and the third week of October the 16th we do the 22nd or whatever it was
And this time it was fucking freezing probably 50 50 on the weather right like it was

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Rainy and cold half the time yeah, where's the first time we went the first week of October it was
Perfect. Yeah, perfect weather every day sunny. I mean there's a little bit of rain here and there and of course the beautiful fog
In the morning. Yeah, but it didn't rain much it wasn't really cold
The first time was like perfect weather and we talked to a family member of yours that lives up near there

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and
They told us that generally
When October hits the weather gets rainy and cold mm-hmm and it's
No, they said if we would have came up a week or two weeks earlier
We would have been we they had perfect weather. Okay, so if you want to go do that first week of October
Yeah, it's that that's when you want to go because otherwise it was really windy and cold and wet

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Yeah, there were spots where I was like damn we did not dress warm enough for this one. I wasn't ready
Because like right now it's still hot in Utah. Yeah, it's like 60 and sunny in Utah, but in
And it's weird because in Seattle we had the air conditioning on in this lawn yesterday. Yeah, like that's where we're at still yeah
You heard that Chris rock joke about the the uh

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Sir mix-laut videos you know sir mix-laut's wearing a fur coat and the girls wearing bikinis what the fuck is the weather like in Seattle?
It's kind of how it is a little bit because it was hard to predict but man you and regardless the the
foliage
These majestic trees of Douglas firs everywhere. I mean
It's insane the fog in the morning is just it's like that video game Alan Wake

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It's like the great show of Twin Peaks. I don't know. It's everything you ever wanted. It really is everything you want is beautiful
And so now so now we've been up there twice
Both in October one you know
Early October was clearly better weather. Yeah, it was still great though. No problems. Just a little colder than we liked and

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I think the wet when it's when it's raining it fucks our curls up. Oh
Yeah, the hair was it's not good. Yeah, that's the only thing I don't like is like I feel like my hair like
Already the ocean water
Doesn't give a shit about your hair products
Like if you're putting gel and shit in your hair to like kind of help keep it together

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It's immediate like it just starts breaking apart and start getting frizz
So like you add rain on top of that and some wind mother fucker. It's like
Don't you wash my hair every day of this fucking trip. It's awful. Yeah, the yeah the the
It's strange because I you would assume Seattle area there would be

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Humid because the right next to the ocean basically. Yeah, but it's but it wasn't really humid, but it was dry also but it also
Kicks you the shit out of your hair. Yeah, the wind was just fucking our wall. I don't think it's the wind
I think it's the like just that little bit of humidity in the air that it just starts fucking with the hair
Yeah, not enough for you to fill though

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So I was surprised at my hair was like if you go to like
Mexico or Florida you're not really surprised your hair looks like shit like that's you're just expecting it
You know what I mean? Yeah, but like when you go to um
when you're in like
Which seemingly feels cool like
Not humid mm-hmm, because I don't feel like it feels humid there

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Your hair is not feel humid when you go to the east coast or oh you'll know you know
So we check into the Salish and
So all the all the places we booked were had friendly options because we weren't sure if we were gonna have to take big tuna or not
and

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We got the room with a little has a little fireplace outside
great vibes, right? Mm-hmm, and we had
You could hear the waterfall
Yeah, yeah, and it's worth staying there. It's like the the property location is insane insane
I'm like how can this place not turn a profit even if the rooms were dog shit
It doesn't matter the it's right on the Salish falls, but it's not they're not dog shit like the rooms are insane

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They are lovely everything's perfect about this place. I love it. I love it
Because I was a little bit sad that we were gonna go there again because we I don't love to stay in the same places that we always stay
But when we got there I was like I'm happy we're doing this again. Yeah, because originally our plan was to
Go to the room drop the luggage off head back to Seattle city to go to the pink door for dinner because we

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hadn't really seen Seattle the city at all on the last trip this time
We were like we got to check out Seattle proper and you know, we got checked in we're like we have fuck all that
Let's just have dinner here and we had what I I ranked the top three
meals that we had in Seattle and on this trip
Thank God and coming in at number two is the Salish lodge hotel. We got the

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You know, we got our guts can't handle a lot of crazy shit. So we got some full lays
Yeah, and it was great and the server was super nice. She I wonder if other a few guys are like that like as you age
I can't eat fucking food
Food
Yeah, not late my late at night late at night. Oh, did you want to not sleep tonight?
Oh, did you want to vomit acid the entire night before you go to sleep and have a tiktok acid night for you

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Tiktok acid bath
So we got the and the server was super nice. She gave you she said it. She
Little white line said it was your birthday brought you a little free dessert
Little adult pup cup
What did we get for dessert that dessert was fucking good as fuck
What was that it was like a crunchy like a really it was perfect because we were already full and it had like a light crispy

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Like a tart
kind of but it was a little bit crispier and a little bit lighter and then they had
Was like a marscapawn kind of like um
Like cream on top of it. Oh no shantilly. I caught which I don't fucking know what shantilly is do you know whipped cream with the fuck
I don't know. I know. Anyways um nobody knows nobody knows it doesn't exist

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I just feel like they just give pretty names to like fucking whipped cream. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah anyways, but
They had shantilly on there and
God what was it
No, I don't remember. It was a crunchy cookie with a little bit of creamies on it
And that shit was fucking bomb it was fire and it was light enough that it didn't like

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It wasn't so sweet see that you're you're like, I need a glass of milk, but it also wasn't
Too bland. Sometimes if there's not enough sweet see it's a little bland. Yeah, it was a nice mix
It was a good whoever their
Pastry shaft was it was the it was very good. Yeah, it was great
And that's why I come in at the end the stakes were cooked perfect

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We order a medium plus and they nailed it perfect, which isn't doesn't happen often
I know and if I lose Chris, they'll fuck it up sometimes
If you say that you don't eat a steak that way
I can't stand fucking blood on my plate like the red shit on like fucking with my potatoes when I cut into my steak
It grosses me out. I'm not gonna eat a bloody potato. Mm-hmm. It makes me want a fucking puke

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So don't come at me with the you have to eat it rare fuck off. It's disgusting. I
Pink a lovely pink
That's it now what I will what I will to keep this a fair and balanced opinion
Because we are very opinionated and judgmental
What I do please
What I did it love about Seattle and the surrounding areas

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The the drinks were all the most high octane shit I have ever drink
I'm like bro you guys alcoholics here
Every drink it would like sound really good and like a nice blend of sweet and all this shit
It was like
Even when we were checking into the salish like the first one I got had a little bit of whiskey in there and that was nice

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And then we had to I was like can I can I get to another one and there and he was
Lovely and he gave me another one and I went no whiskey because I don't want to be like a greedy little pig
You know what I mean? I don't want to be like give me all your free shit
You know what I mean? Yeah, it embarrasses me a little bit. Yeah, like you're taking handfuls of like
Samples on the way exactly, but he just was so fucking good. Apple cider was the best apple cider

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I've tasted in my entire life same. We even asked about it. We're like can you buy this somewhere and they were like well
I'm gonna put your shirt blend
They like sourced it from somewhere and then their personal chef's added some like
Mixed it. Oh my god. It was so freaking good and then
We had to there was a little mix up and so we had to like wait for a second and

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Then they went heavy pour on the fucking whiskey. Mm-hmm. Because he knew I loved the that I was loving the uh
Cider
So then he was like all right girl. Let me give you a little salt mixture
But I was like you can't hot and boozy
I already get hives when I drink
I was hyped up

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As soon as I had that second one it was like crawling up my fucking sideburns and shit. I was like good lord
Yeah, everywhere we went the drinks. I mean they should just called them dick in the dirt cocktails
I was like bro. I can't function after this drink and they were just lightweights, you know, we just don't drink a lot
But yeah, that's my complaint about Seattle is the drinks are just too

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Forward it's spirit forward. They called it yeah
It's like holy shit or you guys are raging alcoholics. I don't know
and
My other complaint is and this isn't really a justified complaint
the food
There was only a couple things we ate that I was like dude. I gotta come back and get this shit again. Agreed

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I agree usually with a much higher percentage of shit like that when we travel mm-hmm that the foods
Great on all the pigs we choose
That's not to say the Seattle food bags. I know people are like hey, what the fuck you didn't even go here and here and here and I'm like totally
Totally we were there for a blip of the second time when we were there the first time
I think we had better food the first time than we did this time. Oh, yeah, don't you think that'll remember

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Well, they we had those french fries where they fried
Pieces of clove in with the french fries so you could like pop in like you're eating pieces of clove
That sounds really good. I wish I remember that
You know what is all the fucking lead from the protein I consume that day
That's fucking my brain
But you know I heard a fucking theory about that and it's brilliant

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You know how like all of the
Like the Joe Rogan fucking dorks at that get their entire personality from listening to Joe Rogan
Uh-huh familiar are you familiar with that?
um
They
Are consumed they're like Jim bros. Yeah

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So they are drinking lots of protein
Yeah, and the protein as we're fighting out is
Lead forward
Lots of lead. Yeah, and what does lead do
What do we always joke around about the boomers that increased aggression
lower cognitive functioning and less empathy like they have a harder time having empathy for human beings it

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I sent you a tiktok from that dude who
He puts up a graph from a study. I don't the comments suggested it's not quite a straightforward
But he was saying like violent crimes in America drop significantly
Plomiting the second they take the lead out of everything yeah out of the paint the gas and all that
Which supports the theory well what supports the theory now is like who's the aggressive fucking cunts

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Hmm, it's the Jim bros. Yeah, they're getting red-pilled left and right in center red-pilled truck nut community there
Really angry they are angry
Mm-hmm. They hate everybody
Everybody's the worst except for them. You know what I mean? I just don't so I think that there is a correlation to

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people with their consumption of like protein and
having high lead and then
And then listening to content that is like if like something that will infuriate you
It makes you lose your empathy towards other people
Yeah, maybe they're gonna be something to that. I mean, I consume a ton of protein powder. I do

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I mean wait too much a day that was like oh shit. I gotta stop taking this but I don't feel lost to them
See, but I also don't consume a lot of red pill content. I think it's the combination of the two yeah
Yeah, like having the open system like susceptible to absorbing that programming. Yes
Yeah, well anyhow the

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So okay, so we're at the sale-ish
But I'm being but okay now it's time for the
Kind of special plan
Announcement special plan
So I'm writing my tenth book on Twin Peaks occult symbolism
It's basically a book version of my 55 episode series called The Gray Lodge on my podcast
Which you can only get on my supporter feeds right now

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Go to patreon.com/luminitywatcher if you're interested
Which by the way I had a listener
Suggest that I try to find a way to bundle our two
Shows together for people that are trying to save a buck, you know, oh, I love that
I looked into when we started our patreon for breaking social norms and it wasn't an option back then
I'll see if I can figure out a way to do that

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It might take me a while but I'll see if I can figure that out for the more budget-friendly audience, right? Yeah
Listen
Trying times trying times and we grew both grow a bunch of broke bitches. Yes, we get it
Bayley out on my patreon so what I'm doing is I'm writing this book my plan

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I'm like 80% done writing it, but that's only the first fucking battle
Then I got to edit it then I got to narrate it then I got to do the cover art then I got to try to get a hold of
I don't know CBS to almost Twin Peaks imagery to see if I can use some of the imagery on the in the book or on the cover
No clue how long this is going to lawyer. I think it's what I knew my to get a lawyer
So if you hard press me to come up with a number I would say

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By spring summer 26 will have this book out
Then I want to create a presentation
And I want to present it up
In the Seattle area where you could find probably the most interested audience
My fantasy is to do it at two different locations
oh
One at

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Salish lodge where the great northern is right okay the other
Maybe at the lower Palmer House maybe I don't know I this is all very up in the air. I might not do any of this shit
I don't know oh okay, but we've we looked at the little convention room that they offer at the Salish
It was perfect it was that was perfect look like you could fit about 30 people in there

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I was like okay, that's probably then I would think that's probably the numbers. I could pull maybe I don't know
Yeah, I just do a little recon on that
If you're interested in this shoot us a shoot us a message someplace like maybe in them
anywhere so we can get
What do you want like an email
Like you need it so that we can get a head count of like okay, what could we expect? Yeah, I mean those interested in this you know

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Because I feel like obviously the area has a lot of people there
But then you'd have a handful of people that would travel there who want to see the Twin Peaks sites
Yeah, so I just think it'd be a perfect spot and we love the area so it's like
Not a hard sell for me to go out there again. No
So I mean that's the casual plan. I when would I do it maybe I mean maybe it'd be perfect time to hit it that first week of October in 2026

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That might be the proper timing
Anyway, that's the casual plan stay tuned for more details, but they're usually doing the Twin Peaks stuff in February
Yeah, February 24th is national Twin Peaks day
So if you could get it if we could get it together by Twin Peaks day
Yeah, that would have more people traveling there for that

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Yeah, that's the other option. I don't I don't
I don't think I can get it done by then, but then maybe we just push to 27
Yeah, that's the other option is
So yeah, we're talking
October 26th or February 27th I don't know
I think it depends on how many people reach out that are like hey, I am interested. I would do this
Yeah, there you go
Tell us your interest it tells which one you'd rather go out

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for yeah, any who so
Okay, so there's there's that so we do the sailor sting we get a little recon done
on the
whole convention thing which is you know
obviously very cool
Then we go up to Everett, which is where the Laura Palmer house is
and

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The hotel rooms get significantly worse throughout the trip
Just to have another bitch
Just I won't name the hotel. We stayed at one of the nicer hotels and Everett. It was fine. There's nothing wrong with it
It just was like you can't go from the sailors lodged to a fucking
Problem is that the we went from so nice to like
corporate hell yeah, it was just

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And I didn't even have the corporate hell cookies and free coffee bar. No
What are you guys doing? It was janky
It was not nice. It was it was a rough girl. I mean they barely put furniture in the lobby
Yeah, they did huh. Yeah, I don't know
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But then around there it was because we were kind of near the harbor and what I really loved was that

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And maybe we'll post some photos on josey's instagram at the wise-ops too if you want photos of the non sort of twin peak stuff that I posted on mine
What I really liked was
You know that movie the lighthouse
Yeah, it felt like
coastal sea vibes, you know what I mean?

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Like a bunch of fishermen just doing fish shit and crabs
Craven with their fucking tight little beanies and coveralls or overalls. Yeah, I was like this is like some real
fucking fish stick guy the mascot on the fish sticks bag. Yeah
like
Full beard. Yeah
Yes, I saw like four of them dudes sitting there having some coffee. I was like this is fucking cool man. This is like this shit

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I saw on TV and the box of fish sticks
So I loved that and then did it we go into where did we go for that Italian restaurant?
Wasn't that one we were in ever it?
Yes, no yes
No, that was when we were staying at the sailors the second night we drove into

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Is it qua
Oh, yes, you're right and had
Italian food at the tiniest little I have never
Let me get the name wire. I have never seen a
A little spot like as small as this it was crazy. We were sitting
We called the ask if they had a way and they're like we're booked and I was like you don't accept like people walking in like there's no street

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sitting or whatever and
They were like we you can sit at the window seat and I was like okay, that's fine
So then they pencil sin for the window seat and we get there and it feels like a movie scene like think of a bay window
And a plank of I'm not shitting you the plank of wood was

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12 by what six yeah
12 inches by like six foot like a full dinner plate took up the whole
Depths of the you were and you were staring out the window you were staring street side
While you're eating your food, which was at first I was a little like I don't know if I love this
But then I was like this feels like a fucking movie like what they're

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It was really cool. Yeah, the dining room was really small. I mean I felt like there was maybe 10 tables
Yes, it's that it was intimate and like moody and the food was really good
That's called the I'm gonna butcher the name Mont Montal Sino Ristorante Italiano in Issaqua Issaca and I pronounce that shit

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Uh, the food was great. Uh, it was very fun. It didn't make my top three though. Oh, we're not a tie. We're not big on a tie
I don't really love Italian like that. I don't either. Yeah, pizza is my favorite Italian, which isn't even fucking Italian I think yeah
But the food was great the the bersierta was good
We have there the though they have like scallops and shrimpies. No, they had prawns and scallops with this best sauce on it

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Oh my god, it was so good. Yes, the appetizer for the prawns and then we got a dinner of the chicken breast in the
Gorgonzola lemon salt
It was just too much creamies. Yeah, that was all I think that was wrong with it. It was good
It's just like I think whenever we eat something that's a little heavy especially heavy in the cream

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um
It's like
Oh, I think I start getting nervous that I'm gonna this is not gonna settle nicely
You know what I mean? And then like we're just of the age is like you ain't fucking if you're full
You know what I mean? And that creamie's just going in there and it's a little heavy. You're like creamy's like you're just gonna put on some sues tonight

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We're watching shows. We're not fucking doing anything
So like when you're on vacay in vacay is like the best time to make love so
It was like it was kind of like oh, okay. Well, this is the night enter. This is like
Yeah, this is the end
And we were on this is more this was more of a high a quick high-paced adventure type which isn't great for getting it

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It isn't great for me. That's not my life. No
No, you love it but it also doesn't mind but it also doesn't lend itself to sexy time
No, what is too much going on and I think that that's the thing is like
I have to be relaxed a resort server the way to go. Oh, I'm close to resort perfect. Yes, yes, chill you get up when you want
Make love do whatever you want. Yes, it's beautiful

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But this was a little bit like boy a yoey. Yeah, not that kind of thing. I think that that's the that's the difference between me and you is it you
fucking love adventure and I like romance
And I don't think that those two things like for me they don't go hand in hand because I'm tired my feet
You make me fucking walk everywhere I agree and I hate it. That's why you're getting the next trip. You're you pick the next one. All right

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But you're right. It's it can't be both like for me. It just can't be both. It's too hard. Yeah, no, I agree with you
It's either romance or it's
Adventure
Yeah, cuz I used to not like all inclusives. I thought it was boring, but now that I'm older I appreciate the fuck out of it
I'm like, oh, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yes

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so we
Go to Everett. Oh, yeah, we talked about that. We talked about the hotel. We had dinner at the I think it was called the 1119 steakhouse beautiful ambiance
Eh food was all right
I was a little disappointed with the stakes to be honest where the 1119 that beautiful. Oh, no, that this was after the twin peaks event

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Oh, yes, sorry. I was just wrapping up on like the non twin peak shit. Now we're talking to him peaks. Okay
But after the obvious that place was freaking
It was stellar 10 out of 10 on ambiance. Yeah, food the
Mm-hmm. I felt like the drinks were like they were okay again with the hardcore shit
Because they just like kick my ass and then I have to like really slip it sip it slow

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Which is it's fine. Mm-hmm. By my old-fashioned slut like I love a good old-fashioned, but I like a sweet old-fashioned
Like put a little bit more surf in that bitch
I think a little bit of like sweet season it
It was fine though, but the but the stakes were you know those are it's fine. I think I think I think

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I just want to go there again
You know what it is. I hate people that decide how you're gonna enjoy your food
Like they did this in Austin. Oh, we went to that pizza place and they're like you don't get pineapple
There's no fucking ranch and I was like, you know, am I fucking paying to be here? I don't need your goddamn judgment and put a fucking pineapple on it
I like pineapple on my pizza. I know it's a very

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uh
divisive
Take but I like it. I had to come around to it. I wasn't with it either until you you
Warm me down on it and I'm like, okay, you're right pineapple and pepperoni is the superior number one pizza there is good
It's the perfect blend. I like that sweet makes with that salt man. It's just makes it yummy

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And then you put a little bit like I'm a Utah girl like I'm dipping some shit in some ranch
Don't fuck with me. I like it. I don't know what to tell you and I don't want blood on my fucking plate when I order a steak
So don't bring it out fucking raw. Mm-hmm. I hate it
So I like I ordered my steak and that was the only problem with that steak was that it came out fucking rare is shit

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That thing was rare and then it's dark and I can't really see yeah, and I'm
It now it's a texture thing
Yeah, I'm like oh my god
And here's my thing another thing I want a bitch about I don't know what has happened since fucking COVID
My food does not come out hot
I want a fucking murder. Mm-hmm. I I don't give a shit about my drink

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I don't give a shit how long it fucking takes. I don't give a shit. I'm very relaxed. I used to be a server
At two places one was hooters and the other was all of garden
So like I get it. Okay, well far established from it
top tier and um
Those they

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If my food is not hot, I want a fucking rage it's food
Isn't good Luke warm
Would you rather like so let's say the steaks
For whatever reason they screw up and the steaks are cooled down would you rather just throw them in the microwave to warm them up?
No, just a full of it. Get in the fuck out here. I want it piping fucking hot the only place that I have been

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That has like knocked my fucking socks off was when we went to prime for an anniversary a while ago
And they brought out the plates they were like metal plates and they kept them like 350 degrees
I'm prime and parks it to you tall. Yeah, so the it was hot these plates were hot as fuck
And so they came out and they were like I'm I'm not kidding when I'm telling you these plates hot

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Don't touch the fucking plate and I was like oh, okay, but what was nice about it is it was a steakhouse
And so they cooked my steak a little rare
Which was fine because I basically cooked every every piece of it on the fucking burning hot plate
And I seared it up so that it was just a little pink
Everybody was piping fucking hot

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And that's how you want a steak
I a cold steak tastes like fucking leather. Yeah, I agree and they're too expensive to
That's it's too fucking everything right now is so expensive. I don't want to fucking pay
$25 in McDonald's for shit for a cold ass fucking shitty burger

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Yeah, and we get we get steaks often when we go out
Well, cuz it's all in here. Yeah, so I think that doesn't knock me out strictly for like vacation stuff where we're like
trying to be careful and
Yeah, this is this is our Vietnam right now the ground beef prices and the steak prices are fucking off the charts
I mean off the charts even buying them from Costco. I'm like dude. I don't know that I can afford these filets anymore. Yeah, we gotta eat some fucking chuck

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Or some shit. I don't it's crazy right now
All right, this is a fucking nightmare. Well, you know
Thanks Obama. Thanks. Oh nice Obama for making our steaks expensive 10 years later. What the fuck you doing?
You know what it's all that social is injected into the economy. Oh my god anyway

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It's fucking idiots
And we're gonna have one more political
Stab this episode. Yeah, it's a hold on there. You can find it clutch your pearls you fucking babies. You can find it later
So okay, so now for the main the main show the main reason we go up there is for the let me get the name of this correct

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The twin peaks
event the fuck do they call it
The twin peaks conversations with the stars afternoon tea with the paumas
Where they told us we would get to go to the paumma residence at 708 third street in Everett, Washington
Which is owned by and lived in by Mary reiber who plays Alice Tremond and twin peaks the return

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I interviewed her from the paumma house two years ago
Go listen to it on a called symbolism and pop culture. She is lovely and she's the greatest. She is the greatest
I'm gonna put a link in the show notes actually hang on
She is a wonderful. Yeah, you want the whole if you want the whole scoop on why she bought the house

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Why she lets weirdos like us into her home
And I told her at the thing I anyway, um, I told her thing I said
You know what you're actually living my nightmare you have to keep this place pretty much picked up all the time
You don't know when people are gonna stop by yeah, well
Those when people are gonna stop by but yeah, don't just stop by that's fucking rude

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No, you got to buy a house tour online. I think she offers the tickets now
Be nice to her she's lovely. Yeah, don't just stop by her home. She's very friendly. She's very nice. So we got to meet her
Cheryl Lee who plays Laura Palmer and Ray Wise who plays Leeland Palmer
That was what we bought in for okay, and the whole deal was like you're gonna have like like 90 minutes

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You're gonna be in the house after 90 which I didn't see tea anywhere and that's okay
I don't fuck the tea anyway. I was like this is perfect. I hate tea was there yeah well or coffee
I can't remember if it was coffee or tea there but they had a thermos with like something
They had this amazing spread of food a beautiful spread and
Unfortunately for me anytime I'm in a social event my social anxiety is pinging

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Yeah, and I can't eat or drink. I just get nervous. I don't know what's happening
I feel like my gums are receding and so now I'm getting gaps in my teeth
And it's like heavy in the like food gets stuck in my teeth
I it's a whole thing. Yeah, I worry about that. So I don't want to like have shitty fucking breath and talk to people
And then no have shit in my teeth the whole time. Yeah

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So I lean away from it a little bit and that's more that I pick that up from you and one of our friends. Oh really?
Yeah
Where they were like so it's like eat before you go. Yeah, I just can't I can't relax enough to just enjoy
Obviously use it as a comfort thing just because they're anxious to eat and I'm like for whatever reason I can't
I used to and now I'm leaning the other way where it's like I kind of pull away from it

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But again, it's because I don't want my breath to be crazy and I want my I don't want things in my teeth
It adds to me feeling insecure
But yeah, they had this amazing spread. Oh my god. I had one thing I had this
That fucking cookie thing and I was thinking about it ever since
Yeah, I should have filmed my pockets with these things. Those cookies were so good. I don't know if they had it
They must have had catered something, but anyway, it doesn't matter. The point is here's the experience. All right, shut the fuck up

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The experience we wait outside. There was two sessions
One was it I think I don't know three or four or whatever then we were there for the 515
Session so we're out from we're waiting for the
losers from the previous one to leave right get the fuck out. It's our turn, you know
they leave and
And we're standing out front and

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Ray why is pops his head out of the front door and not over a member. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Let me back up. Sorry as we're waiting for the first session to leave
Out walks
Harry go as
The guy who plays deputy Andy. Yeah
And he says once he was saying a bunch of funny shit and I was too star-struried
I didn't take a photo. I didn't say nothing. I was like is that fucking deputy Andy

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and
He's coming down the stairs because there's a long staircase up to the house front porch and
He's kind of off balance. He's like, oh, I got my vertigo
It will stand there watching about as he's about to fall down these stairs and the great josey always there to help out
Runs up the stairs and helps this guy out. Let it go people joined you. You know, I think we were all kind of like

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Wait a minute. What's happening now that deputy Andy? Because we didn't know he was gonna be there. Yeah
Anyways, you helped him downstairs and
I think that's what more people need to do
Be aware of when people are in need around you because I don't think I think people are more nervous like because I always say that
You're like a fucking helper. Yeah, and you'll be like, I don't know

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I don't feel uncomfortable or whatever and I'm like
So I just I go into go mode when I see people that are struggling
And then I offer help and if they don't want it then they don't I've to be honest
I've never not had the people want help that I've helped
So I think I had it happen the first time I tried to oh really yeah, remember that lady I was I was

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Trying to I had to set up something for the church for memorial service
What did I ask the Greek church? Yes, don't listen to me. You can't go off of the life with the old
Dicks at the Greek church. Are you shitty? I was set up the calendar. I'm like okay now you're you're your husband's one more
Days can be on this day and I think I I don't remember the details. I was like go me just a reminder

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Yeah, we would do the copy reminder beforehand
Yeah, you we did the coffee so we would
Schedule people for the coffee and when you had a memorial they would usually do the coffee that they for the memorial
Called with the food with the Jordan almonds in it. Oh God
So good
It's on the I can't think of it. It's on the

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Anyways, yeah, I asked her I was like something about the
It's my dead husband. I think I'll remember
Like good god
Collie va
It is fine whatever I'll give a fuck but that was the first time I tried

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Old people off of old Greek Greek people at church they are
The fucking mean
They don't mean it that way though you got to understand I do understand and it's fine and it is true
Like I think she would remember that so to be fair
One of them yelled at me this this old lady we had like a hall where we would set up for coffee and stuff like that

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And like sometimes we do dinners and when they would do dinners they put out placements and you'd put like fucking
Forks or shit out or whatever and then we had how many tables
Like 20 yeah, 20 tables that sat they were around and they sat 10 fucking people huge tables
Okay huge round tables and this old lady I won't say her name

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But I want to
Pretty sure she's dead anyway, but she is dead anyway, so she
Uh, she just had hip surgery and she had her little walker and she's out setting up the tables and I go
Uh, whatever your name is. I don't want Mary a car Mary Mary like Mary
What are you out here doing you just had surgery? Let me help you and she goes

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Don't be kind of
Fuck you Mary you
Do it all by yourself now
Enjoy it bitch. I was so annoyed. I was like oh all right have fun with that be fucking jerk
Condescending I was trying to help her
I so you never
Based it off of an old fucking Greek person worth salty dicks

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We're terrible people sometime. Let's fair so
Sorry, at least it's a church
So you help hairy downstairs
And then here comes Kimmy Robertson who plays Lucy yeah, and she's got a guy helping her downstairs or whatever
Yeah, because after I do it then all the all the men

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Decide that oh
Yeah, let me help them down these steep fucking thin stairs
So
And again, I didn't get a photo which I regret right now, but I just was you know sometimes I freeze up
I was like and I thought maybe they were coming back in the house but they left they left
I was like good

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I thought they were going back in I thought they were coming back in yeah, and that's why I was like
I'm not gonna make this weird and be like proper rotsie
Because I'm also we're also the generation where photos are kind of weird. Yeah, and it's like kind of intrusive on some weird level for us anyway
So I was like holy shit like this is crazy
And then here comes a lady that worked the event because she comes outside and I still don't know what her

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Relation was but I think she was relatives to David Lynch
I have no idea because it wasn't David Lynch's sister who we met inside the house by the way Martha
It was someone else and she gave us
Coasters from David Lynch's house
I wish they would have introduced themselves. That's the only thing so that I would understand so yeah, or at least

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I don't know if they thought that we all knew who everybody was but yeah
They probably thought well these people are obsessed they know who all these people were and I didn't I didn't know yeah, yeah, and I was it was too
nerve-racking not nerve-racking
Who are you?
You're giving us gifts and being lovely some lady had us gifs and because David Lynch they sold off his estate online

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You could auction on all these items that he had that he owned and she gave us these cool coasters that he had
So I was like holy shit. This is fucking crazy. Yeah, it was really cool. It was really nice
So then they
So then we're getting ready to go in ray wise pops is that I was like come on in or whatever he said
You know, we're like holy shit. So we go in and they split us up and

(51:47):
We were in the kitchen for the our group was in the kitchen just kind of hanging out
Got to talk to Mary a little bit didn't get to talk to her as much as I wanted to
But you know, you know how it is when you have a party. It's like fucking pandemonium. Yeah, I'm waiting
You invite a hundred people you get to talk to you maybe half of them for a second each. Yes
Is what it felt like so I have a million things I want to talk to Mary about I gotta get a hold of her

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again and um
Yeah, anyway, so we'll go in the kitchen. We're just kind of chilling um
And then they're like okay, let's let's rotate around we get to go meet ray wise
and
He was super funny
He was

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Charming
Beyond charming he was I mean the dude
Yeah, he was just lovely a lovely human being
When I when I got to me I was of course, you know me being the starfucker
I am I tried to get in there first
And I was like push you though. I'm like oh
I said I said ray

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It's a pleasure to meet you. I'm here to talk to you about the greatest movie of all time robo cop
As a choke kind of right yeah, and he's oh robo
And then it was funny because later on because everyone got to sort of try to take turns talking to him said
No, and dominated. Yeah
And it's one of the things that was nice about our crew is that everybody was very gracious with each other

(53:15):
Yeah, trying to give each other time. Yeah, because there wasn't a strict like thing like we literally were standing
Like you were it was very old. Yes, just everyone's sort of engaging with them and a lot of people talking about robo cop
Like I was joking
But I think a lot of people
Uh what what it was a movie or the show. I'm sorry the series that he played the devil in oh

(53:38):
Um, I wrote it down because I think you we were gonna watch that. Yeah, he was talking a
Reacher it's called a Richard that's right. Yes, because someone asked him what his favorite role was and he said
Reacher he got to play the devil and he looks like he looks like he does do it great. Yeah, he's very charismatic
He's got this sort of way about his eyes. Oh, I really a wily way. Yeah. Yeah, so he said and then also

(54:01):
I guess he's in a music video called beach house
I gotta watch these things. I don't know. I've only ever seen him in robo cop and twin pigs
But yeah, he was super fun to talk to I asked him
If he knew what was in the milk because in the in the movie fire walk with me
Leeland gives his wife Sarah this glass of milk that seems to drug her is what it seems like

(54:28):
But it's actually sedated and knocked out. It's like she's
Having hallucinogenic visions or something. I was like did you did David Lynch ever say
Okay, this is LSD. Okay. This is GHB like what was it? Yeah, and he said he didn't know said they weren't given any guidance and
And he said you know the interesting thing about David Lynch was that

(54:49):
He would film stuff and he would only do a couple takes it wasn't because remember he told the story about how
Some of the shitty film they would want 30 40 takes of the same shit and he'd walk in the stairs. Yeah, like it was nothing
Yeah, but he said Lynch would and that's kind of how I do things not to compare myself to David Lynch, but
I generally first take yeah, you don't you don't because I feel like then if you do in a second

(55:15):
What am I gonna record this a second time where it's a little more polished? I don't like that. I like that amp
I like that sort of I don't know the energy they always like that you like that amateur fill a stuff
Yeah, like if I fuck out leave it in yeah, yeah, they're fill it feels like
So I think there's something to that like capturing the moment the beauties in the mistakes as they say yeah

(55:35):
and
Yeah, so he said that um
What else was he taught you talked about a bunch of shit right I'm trying to think of what else I asked him about
If he did the transcendental meditation with David Lynch right yeah, that was a good question and
I wanted to ask more like talk more about him be like what the fuck what was that like

(55:59):
And I don't know I don't I tried meditating are you pick you used to meditate when I am
Altru stress meditation helps
Hmm if I'm not ultra stressed, I don't meditate because it's kind of hard. It's hard. It's difficult
But there was a
Like I could do the guided meditations, but it's it's difficult and I think I don't get a lot out of

(56:23):
I think my I have
My attention deficit makes it I don't really understand
Yeah, monkey mind bad
And so I help you in the most then I'm sure it would I think it absolutely would um
Sorry, I swallowed spit down the wrong way you're okay
I think it's I think it is helpful if you are stressed out and anxious and you can't

(56:49):
Collect your thoughts I it is too rebel. I'll I'll do it, but it's becoming less frequent
But I don't really see the difference between
Um, I'm interested to know what is the difference between that and transcendental like I don't know what makes
Meditation transcendental it's the mantra I think I mean, I'm not an expert. Oh, okay, so transcendental is where you

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Say a mantra. Yeah, they give you they when you you have to pay to take the
Like course or whatever it is and you're paying also for the mantra they give you a specific mantra that you have to
Repeat and it's supposed to the key difference from what I understand is that it's supposed to
You know with tm you do it twice a day. I think it's 20 minutes a shot or 15 minutes each time

(57:32):
Which doesn't sound like much, but fuck I
Couldn't I could bear when I was meditating I would do it in the morning for about five minutes
Yeah, 10 minutes tops. Yeah, and it was just rough man
I it's hard for me to like even sometimes like when I'm driving. I'll call people
Like it's hard for me to be with me
So like I can like let me call my mom. Oh, yeah, you know or let me call monkey like I want to call you or my mom

(58:00):
Yeah, you do do that. I don't I'll even be a minute down the road. I'm on my way home
I'll start talking with you
So yeah, the so tm is supposed to get you in contact with a unified field
There's a video Lynch did you find in YouTube maybe 10 minutes long that he explains it. It's really interesting
I for sure. I'm interested in it
I don't think I could have the patience to do that though twice a day for 15

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So what's the difference like what are you trying to do?
You'd have to yeah, you'd have to ask someone and tm I know for sure the focus is on
Going down the fields of reality into the unified field where all
Where the collective unconscious is where all thoughts and ideas originate which is why Lynch I think
All of his works are just his

(58:44):
Descent his experience down in the unified field and the ideas and visions and I and thoughts and feelings he has that he pulls out
And he's trying to depict them on a screen
You know, interesting and Twin Peaks just works the best out of all of his in my opinion out of all this stuff
okay
And uh, yeah, that was that was a good question

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About the tm and he kind of made his what did he say he kind of makes sound like
Sometimes he would do it sometimes he didn't like he but I don't think he was really into it
I know he taught Lynch talk tried it but
Lynch talked Richard horn the guy plays Richard horn and Richard beamer
I don't know he became a tm guy. I think Cheryl Lee does tm ironically we should have asked her but oh

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I think she does tm
Uh, he talked a bunch of people into it
interesting yeah
So so we get done with the ray and then
We get to start to Cheryl Lee and by the way in the room
I saw Sabrina Sutherland who's one of the directors of Twin Peaks. I didn't know
Again, like it goes to your point of you kind of wish

(59:51):
We would have had a more formal introduction. I'm like, okay, this is Sabrina Sutherland. She's the director
This is so and so this is so and so because there's a handful of people involved that they didn't introduce that I don't know
Who is she famous? Are they not yeah, including David Lynch's sister Martha Lynch who was there? Yes
And you could tell like she looks like David Lynch. Yeah, yeah

(01:00:12):
You get there's a family resemblance there. So I got to talk to her that was really cool
I got the photo of that on
Instagram you snapped the photos that god you did I was trying to be like your wingman
Yeah, I appreciate that you did you know what you were really in your in the
Like you're in the moment and so I was like I'm gonna let him be in the moment like I love all of it
But not like you love it

(01:00:33):
So yeah in the time crunch because I wanted to look at my phone to be like is that Sabrina Sutherland
But like I I just didn't want to be on my phone. I don't know. It was weird. Yes, because it was it felt like you only have this short amount of time
You better soak it the fucking you know, yeah
I could fill that from you so that I was like okay, I'm just gonna start snapping pictures so we get something
And I start sweating profusely. I know
You're so funny because I was like I was trying to talk to you so I was because we went to go by certain dry so that we could start like

(01:00:59):
Getting you prepared. So you were in a sweaty mess and I was gonna say like put a little on your neck because you get sweaty
On your neck like in places that you don't think about because like I sweat on my knees like a fucking psychopath. Yeah
For me it's the hair the hair is like we're in a fucking beanie. Yes
Well the hair is bad so my head sweats a lot and but then it travels down my neck and it collects in my back

(01:01:23):
So my back is sweat so my back will be sopping fucking wet because it's head and back
And the tops of my knees for whatever reason and the underneath of my tits are
A fucking nightmare. Yeah, I'm starting to get tits, but if I had full on to it, I'm getting there
I got a fucking tightness diet up. What is happening? Why are you so why do you get so sweaty under the tits?

(01:01:45):
Why do you have somebody glancing to this like why?
Weird place to sweat. Anyways
Because you think it's your torso. You don't think you'd be that sweaty. Yeah
Okay, okay, so we okay, so next we get done sweating a bunch and then we go over to
Cherle so we get to meet Cheryl. She sent out a tape
But I was surprised because I part of me was bracing for her to not be able to make it there

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Because I know that I think I've read that she has some kind of medical stuff where she isn't like
Being close to people. I don't know if that was during COVID. I don't know what the story is. Uh-huh
Maybe it was just a rumor
But I'd heard that about her maybe or maybe it was like a period of time where she was just trying to watch her health
So I don't know it's none of my fucking business. Okay, miss. Yeah, it's her health

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So I don't I didn't dig into it much, but I was worried because I saw on reddit someone claimed that they went to a twin
Peaks event and she was supposed to be there, but she wasn't recently. I was like, oh shit. Oh, she's okay
You know, yeah, and thank God she was there and then she also let us sit around the table with her. I was like, okay. Yeah, yeah, all right and
um
She was incredible. She everybody was lovely. I mean

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Like gentle sweet
inviting souls
And I wish we'd had more time with her shoot we the shortest shorter time with her than we did with Ray
I know because they were kind of like
Ushering people over to her. Yeah, but then we got lost in the shop full
We lost in the fucking shuffle a little bit and then and I was like, well

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Because I was walking over there to like go in there and they're like no
I know and then they were like, well, did you get to talk to Cheryl? I was like no, we didn't get to talk to Cheryl
Like we'll go sit with the table with those other people. I was like god dang it
So we only had a few minutes. So I had to like move quick because I had a plan in my head
I wanted to ask her for an interview because she doesn't really do those much. Yeah, I wanted to warm her up and butter up a little bit more

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But not enough time that a damn enough time
So I what did I ask her before I asked her about the interview thing?
Oh, man, I know I should have wrote this shit down. I don't remember now. What were you asking her?
I should have wrote it down. I'm gonna forget it'll cut me later. I asked her
If because we had just watched Firewalk with me that night because we're at the Salish Lodge and it's like

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Rainy and moody and
The every room I think has a fireplace so we turn the fireplaces on and we open the doors so they have a fire pit outside of the certain rooms
So we had a fire pit outside we open the windows so it doesn't get too fucking hot and
We watched Firewalk with me and

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and so we had just
Uh highly recommended experience very fun and we just so we just watched the scene
So I was like oh, we're at the final scene where they're in the red room and
um
She finally the angel finally comes to her. Oh, that's right. You asked her about the angel didn't it?

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It looked like her because in the final scene she has like a hot roller set like her hair is like in a certain style
And the angel that comes to her and touches her has a hot roller set
So I recognize the texture that made you think that the curl of the hair. Okay. They don't really show the face of the angel
On the second one they show the angel when they're in the

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We're not poloski gets the angel first in the train car in the train car
But then in the second one really it's like a side profile, but mostly hair. Yeah
And so I was like is that fucking her? Yeah
And she said and she told the story about it and she said that that wasn't her and she said
That the actress that David Lynch brought in she said the this girl looked like an angel like that. She was

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On the shot. There was no she I think she said there was no makeup on this girl. Is that right? I don't remember that
But she they were she was just saying she was angelic look. Yeah
Which is pretty incredible and now that you're talking
Now it makes me wonder because in the final like plots boiler if you haven't seen fire walk with me fast forward about 30 seconds
In the final scene after Laura Palmer gets killed she's in the red room

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And she does have the curly hair and that makes me think well that's interesting because in the whole every depiction of her ever
She never has that curler hair and I wonder if it's because she's dead and it's like when you they dress a body after death
Oh, that's interesting. I don't know why that destruct me just now, but but I there's zero depictions of her with anything but straight hair in anything

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So I wonder if that's anyway the whole ending of fire walk with me is pretty crazy
So if you haven't which by the way if you haven't listened to my gray lodge series
I'd release the fire walk with me film analysis. It's almost four hours and free on my youtube add a cult symbolism
You can find I think it's on my youtube anyways. I feel like
I can't just shit any who so

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I feel like if it twin peaks isn't like your thing
Because it's not my thing, but I felt like the first season and fire walk with me are digestible
Like it's like if you're gonna if you have a fucking psychopath that is really into this that's the amount that I can
First season, which is about seven episodes and then you got then you got to make it through the first

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Maybe eight episodes of season two until you find out who the killer of Laura Palmer is
Yes, I think that's where I got to yes and then do fire walk with me
But if you if you want to know why people are obsessed you got to make it through all of it which
I'm waiting for you to do I don't know it's quite the experience of change your life. I don't know. I feel like to me

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It's unnerving to have such a
Dark subject wrapped in a cheek in cheeky characters. Mm-hmm. Like that's a hard one for me to wrap my heart around
You know what I mean. Yeah, and it feels like sit comi and like
like

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Not an opera. What am I trying to say like
What are those shows called soap opera soap operas yeah
uh
It feels like soap opera e like in the late 90 or like the early 90s and sit comi mm-hmm
and silly
And then fucking insanely dark. Yeah, it goes zero to a hundred real quick. There's no it feels like there's no in between

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Yeah, it's just extremes. It's all those things. Yeah, so that's like weird
It is the pay the yeah, it's pretty wild
I don't know if I have it in me, but would I have
Watched I'm like I don't hate that I watched it mm-hmm was enjoy it that I don't know if I could say it's enjoyable

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Do you think it's enjoyable? I mean yeah, okay. I like it because you're constantly thinking and trying to decode
I okay, that's what it is when I was younger
You always like that like I like a story to be told to me. I want to be on the ride of somebody else's
telling

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And you like the experience of coming to your own conclusions. Yeah, and to me it was
I
How do I say this? It feels like sex without an orgasm
Like you know what I mean for me like I'm like it's not bad
Okay, but it's also not a complete like I don't know I have to fill in the fucking holes. I get that I get that so it's not it doesn't feel

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Whatever that feeling is finished. Yeah
And I don't know if I think as I age I enjoy that a little bit more like the edge of it
But I don't know if I when I was younger I couldn't I was like that was fucking what the fuck you know what I mean?
Like I had that too much in me. Mm-hmm

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Well
You're more artistic in that way where you like that. Yeah, I love it. I know I love to beaks
I think that's why I didn't like was that show where they were
Um, he was like a conchistador in the queen the fountain. Yeah, I want to rewatch that
Yeah, yeah, I'm a little more like open to that yeah, yeah, I'm gonna watch that a few times

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Yeah
Well anyway, so so let me wrap this up. So Cheryl
Uh, we have a chat and blah blah
I hit her with it. I'm like no Cheryl and I'm talking fast
I saw our
I saw her kind of like smile and what we were saying a little bit here and there like okay, we're warmed up enough

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Let's go as a Cheryl look. I'm writing a book about Twin Peaks
And I would love nothing more than to do an interview with you if you're open to it
And she shot me down. Yeah, she shot me down. She doesn't do him. She says she doesn't do it because
She had a good rationale she said something about how it sort of cements her views and she

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It doesn't let her grow as a person which I agree with
Because she because she's like look if I do an interview and I tell you I feel a sort of way about this one thing
That's the thing now forever. Yes. I think that that's the same thing with the podcast
With us like and people yeah, they build ideas of who you are
And I think that that's another motivator for us starting breaking social norms

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Is that because you talk about religion because you talk about the occult because you talk about
conspiracy in
Occult symbolism people
Started filling in the blanks of who you are as a human being. Yeah, which was very far from who you are
Yes, and so when I was like stop fucking saying all of this you're getting the nutbacks that think that we are a certain person that we are not

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And you were trying to like sprinkle that in over there, but they couldn't see it
Yeah, until we started breaking socials and then once we started breaking social norms
And then you got to have me on who is definitely the
difference
I think I don't present as a typical person that has

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religious ideas
Right yeah
It's like you have an idea of who those people are and then when I come around and I'm swearing and I'm talking about sex and
I'm being gross
It contradicts of what the ideas of what you have
And it was I think that's why it was so off putting to so many people because they had already built you up into being who this person was

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And that's why I have to tell everybody it's
It's almost like I can't tell people who I you know how on people's Instagram bios
They'll say who they are they'll be like like for mine it would be
Cross-fitting conspiracy Christian and I think people would be like got it. He's a fucking maga. Yep. Right-winger. Yes, and it's like actually I'm not
And I think I was about to have these caveats explaining to people who I am because

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I there's a lot of things that I disagree with in the Christian community as well as the conspiracy community
and so on
And it doesn't mean like I'm not a conspiracy theorist doesn't mean I'm not a Christian. It just means I don't subscribe to a lot of the people's viewpoints of what they think is you know right and wrong

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Yeah
And it's it's just nuanced it's it's it's more complicated than just a straight forward black and white answer
And I think that's why Cheryl Lee probably doesn't do it and I understand that and I get that yeah, but I also think
The more you put yourself out there the more that people can see who you are
Like for us. I think that that's it's fine for whatever sheep. Yeah, she's an actor. She teaches acting stuff like she doesn't need to

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No, we are presenting ideas and theories is on about pop culture and news events and it's important for people to understand our biases filters and beliefs
So that they can decide for themselves if they want to subscribe to it or not I agree at per yes exactly
Yeah, no, yes
And I've come a long way in my journey of conspiracy theories because early on
I was very fervent and very

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That's a not very but I was more along the camp of oh my god the celebrities doing the all-seeing I symbol
They must worship the devil that to sort of simplify things yeah, because I was very heavy into orthodoxy at the time
Which I you know, I still am but it's not like
What arrives every viewpoint I think that when you were going that route I would be like

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These people have handlers these people are owned
Just because they are forced to do something doesn't necessarily like there is a um
I guess you a buy-in but I think you can't hold
Money and fame over people and then think that what they're doing is

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Their thoughts or whatever it's like they have are being told what to do right
And I just not say I don't believe that I just I just think it's more complicated than we think I think that people are very
comfortable doing a lot of fucking gross shit for money and
I think our culture of capitalism has said

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Any behavior any thing for money is
Acceptable and we should all just turn a blind eye to it because
That is a good enough reason
So I saw this tiktok of this person who was doing something shitty and they're like yeah, oh it was talking about who's

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Who's the um
Religious leader that has like the bright blue wise he's old and he's like blowing
Covenant fucking the devil
Coflin yes Kenneth Copeland that guy's a fucking demon he looks demonic and
And if anybody follows these mega church people I why I don't get it either

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Why what are you doing that is fucking crazy to me
It literally says it's easier to get a camel through the eye hole of a needle
Then it is a rich person into heaven and that is who you're gonna follow the people with the um private jets
What I say they say the uh straight to fucking hell dude the road is wide the path is narrow or something like that

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Yeah, that's kind of that's kind of what we're looking at right now because most Christians don't hold up to christ's
Teachings at all. No, that's what we're seeing right now in america
It's wild that that's not me that's what the book says yeah the book that you go and sit at church and listen to
Every fucking Sunday you are not listening. Do you even listen to the fucking
Sermon?

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It's pretty crazy. It's crazy. It's frustrating anyways
um
Some of you was talking about how much they look because he was doing something gross. It was a video of Kenneth Copeland and all of these
mega church
pastors who are
locking the doors and having people
Be locked into the church until they hit a number of donations

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And another preacher who is yelling at somebody because he wanted everybody to bring
$2,000 and she could only get together
$1,200 and and he was
Demeding her in
The middle of service
And then you got these like this refuge church in august and you tall this dudes are much of fucking racist

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misogynist pieces of shit
And they're all over the news for saying it like like blatantly racist shit and it's like how do you possibly think that Christ thinks racism's okay
Yeah, like it's why it's just it's perplexing it's mind-blowing
That people follow these fucking demons. Yes, and it's like shocking
It's like and and and it pisses me off

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Is the like you give all Christians a bad name now yes, because you are the first to walk around with it on you
As loud as you can that you're a Christian and it's like you're not
You're doing all of us into service and guess there's gonna be a price to pay when you're burning in hell
Yeah, you're fine with this nation is hell because you're doing literally the things that Christ is not to do
actively and pretending that and giving a bad name it's worth and that's anyway

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I don't want to get all who gives a shit. I don't want to get off on the
Their path is their path that has nothing to do with me and my and what I'm going to do
But what they do in their behavior turns more people away from Christ and it would ever
Fucking bring them to you. Anyone who's with a you will see brain cells is gonna be like you yes
You're pulling in fucking sheep
She programmable sheep

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Well, and the thing is and if you believe in what you say you believe in
If that Bible means any that you if it means anything to you you know that your works is
Love it's supposed to be love and the way that we behave is it to you have to answer for yeah
If you believe in any of this shit

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You believe that you're gonna have to answer for your behavior and so
To me, I'm like, well, I guess have fun with that one. Yeah, have fun with that and see how see what that has to
When you go when you cut when your behavior and your beat and though your belief systems completely contradict
Um, what the the book that you profess is the truth is so anyways they were saying

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I love Kenneth Copeland
I wish I if I had a good public speaking I would take all of the money from the dummies too
Who said this? It was a comment on a Kenneth Copeland. Oh
Jesus and to me it grossed me out because I think he was like being
Funny yeah, or like an asshole, you know like I don't know make it a point. Yeah, but

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It what it said was it's fine to be gross because look at where it got him look how much money it got him
Yeah, and to me, I'm like there's not a fuck I wouldn't pick up a nickel that came out of that fucking man's hands because it
Just it's repugnant. Yeah. Yeah, and use anyway. Yeah, any who um
And then okay, so then we we were wrapping up and okay you guys can take some photos with these uh your favorite celebrities

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I was like oh that's fucking awesome. So you know we got photos with Ray and photos with Cheryl and when I got to
Take the photo with Cheryl. I showed her my tattoo and my forearm of Laura Palmer that that I have and
She was genuinely um taken back a back by it
Yeah, and you cut the photo you took was you fucking nailed her reaction

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It was cool
And of course these are actors so I don't know but I but my my take on it was like she generally was like holy shit
It is a beautiful tattoo. It is it looks just just like the homecoming Laura Palmer and she was she looked at it
She her eyes got wide she says oh my gosh. She she said something like uh she like she goes who did this?

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Yeah, and I was like what?
I was like well, you know my the tattoo artist in in Utah here, you know and and she was just like wow that's incredible
And so I that was nice that she really is incredible approval, you know, yeah, and um your whole sleeve looks really cool
Yeah, yeah, she she does a great work. I don't know if people don't know he has a I got a Kubrick and Twin Peaks

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combination sleeve. Yeah
Uh because I'm a fucking loser and I'm a dork and these are the things that give me joy
So um, okay, so yeah, so we got the photos and uh it was a great time for sure
So the next day we had down
To the ferry to get to

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Bainbridge Island, but we first stopped over at Pikes Place Market
You were called out. Yes
They had what they have there
They had flowers everybody's walking around with these gorgeous bouquets of flowers
They were super inexpensive. I was actually shocked at the prices from Pike Place

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I think I was like so use the pain so much for everything every fucking wear
because um we made America great again and uh
To see like a giant bouquet for 20 bucks was wild cheaper than uh Costco
I mean you couldn't even get no you couldn't get that bouquet at Costco for that price
There's no way and they were stunning stunning flowers. They had other shit there like they had like fish

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And like I don't know little trinkets and wares and like art stuff that people were doing
But I don't think we saw all of it. It was actually kind of confusing. They should make a
You are here and visit like like a mall thing
Like a mall map, you know, like to show you where all the stuff is so that you can if you want to see something because it is

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The Pikes Place like market thing or whatever it is like the mall
Was confusing and then I didn't really understand the rest of it either
Like a labyrinth. Yeah, it was actually kind of confusing
different levels of floors and yeah, there's a lot of stuff we didn't really we didn't really have time to see it all though
I got a cruise through
Yeah, didn't get to see anybody throw fish
No, no, and what was crazy was um

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You know everybody sits there and thinks like the northwest is like filled with drug addicts
And I think there probably are but I think every city is filled with fucking homeless drug addict
Looney tunes now. Mm-hmm. He's like I was expecting to see
Uh, you know
homeless people on drugs

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Bluesing their fucking minds on the streets of Seattle
Like I saw in fucking Austin, Texas right where it where they were literally like zombies
Yeah, so I don't really understand why we are as a country
Pretending that blue these like these cities are worse off than

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Red states
Yeah, we're all in the same boat
That's just weird about Joe Rogan he left California, which I think he left it to save money on taxes because they don't have state taxes in Texas
Okay, I mean L.A. has got a terrible drug homeless problem, you know, they got people building

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Like shacks to live in long side of the road that's wild that is absolutely
But I mean but in Austin right next to where his comedy store is it's
The same it's the same. Yeah, so I don't know what the
What the deals I was yeah, we didn't see any homeless people. I saw one homeless guy
And he was kind of like just a young guy and he looked like Lionel

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From Charlie Brown like he was just dragging a blanket like Linus Linus. Yeah
So I mean
I'll look I'll fucked up. He just look like a homeless kid and we didn't we didn't really
We drove from the freeway into the city straight to Pike's place
But it was the big city part of Seattle. I mean, it's you would think there'd be I thought there's gonna be tons of homeless people

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Pikes place because it's like tourist thing. Yeah, you know panic. These are more homeless people
At um in Savannah, Georgia
Yeah
There's more homeless in Salt Lake city you talk than what I saw there
Yeah, I don't I yeah, it was just kind of shocking. I don't know if they cleaned it up or what the heck they did or yeah or maybe they're in

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Some other I'm sure they're in a different I think that they don't have a drug and homeless problem
sure, I just don't think it's
worse than
Other cities. Yeah, yeah, no way. I'm sure they have a homeless drug problem
It's just not worse than yeah, yeah because if you go to the touristy parts of LA or Austin

(01:25:58):
Or Savannah you there's tons of homeless people or Salt Lake city Utah or Salt Lake city even yeah there is
Homeless it lots of homeless the worst homeless I've seen was Austin, Texas
Yeah, that was the worst one. They were the the wildest too. That's what I mean when I'm saying the word when I say the worst I'm saying

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Like they were zombies
They were crazy my one girlfriend she went to Portland Oregon and she said that was the level of
homeless that they had in Portland where she was like they were off their fucking rocker
So I don't know what the drugs are in these like I think it depends on what like drugs are using in the certain areas
Because they're like that's when there's zombies and like aggressive zombies. That's when it's frightening

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Yeah
I don't mind the home is like drug addict whatever but like when you're scary and you're screaming at the howling at the fucking moon
Then I'm like hey, this is frightening. Mm-hmm. We're shitting in a flower bed. Yeah, sitting in the flower bed or a cathedral
Charging me yelling
Just a little just an observation of me being like oh

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That was actually a pretty clean part of the fucking city. Yeah totally. I we didn't see anything bad at all. It's
Pretty awesome. Hmm the uh, we went to beaches for the mac and cheese
It was fine. I think if you have the Costco
Frozen it's just good. I think I don't know. I thought it was identical

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That's why I don't they always say like that's the thing you got to get and I'm like it's fine
I don't know. I like to have one that they had with the salmon and the dill. Oh, yeah
So I feel like if you're gonna go there get the salmon dill one because the other one is literally the one you can get a Costco
And it's delicious. Yeah, so what else do we got the cider was great that a great little cider tent. I'm sure everyone's seen that

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The
Yeah, I don't know it was fine, you know the food fine
But then we we know I had like maybe an hour and then we cut the fairy went over to Brains bridge
Bainbridge
And Bainbridge
It was fine
You know, it's pretty it was gorgeous. It wasn't tons to do there though. Yeah

(01:28:15):
Then hindsight I like I don't know if I would I don't if I go back
No, I didn't really I don't really I don't really know
It has like a cute little town. I wonder if the hotel would have been nicer because we rented a air being B
and
So we were kind of out in the like
Suburbs or whatever so maybe if we stayed at the hotel it would have been better

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I guess there there wasn't tons to shop or do it was kind of all in that one
You know that's that crazy thing about Washington is it's like they didn't really have that many
Chains
They didn't have a whole I didn't see a whole lot of like chain restaurants like fast food restaurants. I didn't see a lot of like chain

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Like stores
You know you typically will see the the normal shit that you see in every fucking city all you saw was like mom and pop the whole way
Yeah, I don't recall seeing one McDonald's
I'm sure we did I'm sure we passed one we saw one when we went to Mary's to Mary's that was one oh yeah

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We did yeah the first time we came to that was it that's the only one I know in all of Washington
I didn't see another McDonald and we kind of drove all over the place yeah
Yeah, because we were always looking for a bathroom you know, right? Well, we were driving. Yeah
Yeah, we didn't see any fast food. It's pretty weird like in Utah
It's chains galore that's all there is

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Is chains. Yeah, so it's kind of neat to go to someplace and to experience like
That place. I think Utah is an anomaly with the amount of
Chain chain restaurants to like most places we go. There's not that many chain
Fast foods and stuff maybe that's I feel like that's all we got yeah

(01:30:06):
Even store like you but like they don't even have like little
Local shop pays, you know, like little fun things. Yeah
Yeah, it's kind of weird huh
then so then we
We were on Bainsbridge, so then we went to we drove to what the hell's it called Keona lodge
Yes, to see where the Laura log was

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And we went that was cool. They moved the log up the
Bank there because I guess the water
eroding it
and then we saw
Inside of the lodge there's the only thing I recognized from the show was
The convention center from season one

(01:30:50):
Were Benhorn is trying to sell the Norwegians on the ghostwood property
Mm-hmm. I didn't I didn't see where Ben's office was they must have done that on an interior set in LA or something
Okay, maybe they just did it up against the
Like open air like in the convention center because I feel like in one scene it had

(01:31:13):
The like a big fireplace and then in another scene it had that cool like
artwork on the wall that was painted
Like the mural yeah, yeah, he had the big mural behind his desk and I didn't see that particular mural
Well, the picture wasn't the ones that I took a picture of that wasn't it?

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That was positive
Positive
Because he's got to pull it up. I don't believe it. It's got different eyes
I don't know because his eyes look like Saturn
in the office and season one
And that wall that we saw with that similar imagery. I believe that's in season three
But nonetheless I

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In season one and two when they show the interior great lot the great northern. It's
It didn't feel like anything. No, okay, see where's the place where it has like the stairs that they go up and down
I didn't exactly I don't know where that's supposed to be the that's the interior of the great northern which I thought was inside the
Keanu lodge, but now I'm wondering if it wasn't in the studio. Oh

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Because I didn't recognize none of that
Okay
Let's go to see I mean it's worth going for sure. I mean if you're over there
But in the grounds is gorgeous and then we saw seals in the water and then there was a bald eagle
It was just cool. It was beautiful. Yeah, it's a really nice area
Would I stay at Keanu lodge? I don't know. I mean if you wanted to just like get away from everything. Oh is that a place?

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Is that like a place you stay? I think so. I think so. I think so.
Like it felt like a place that you would rent for like a
For like a wet and event like a wedding. Oh, maybe I don't know. I thought you rented cabins there
I didn't see any oh
Oh, well, maybe maybe it's a convention center then it just look like a place that you would have a wedding

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Yeah, did place we saw yeah, but maybe we didn't see it all
Yeah, we didn't have a guide or a tour guide or nothing like that
Reminded me of the whole thing it kind of reminded me of like forks like from twilight. Oh really?
Yeah, it had more of a forks fill than anything. Oh really
Yeah, what do you mean forks forks washing tin from twilight the show the movie being on Keanu lodge?

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No like the whole island. Oh the whole island
Yeah, it felt a little more isolated
No, but it's maybe worth going. I mean, I don't you know, I'd go once if you're
If you want to take the track over there
It's beautiful. Yeah
And that's basically that's the old tour right? Am I missing anything? No

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That was that
That's it all right. Well
Um anything else
I think we covered it all though
I think that's it
Pumpkin jizz
Pumpkin jizz yeah the coffee oh yeah the pumpkin jizz had a great pineapple upside down cake on

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Oh my gosh, we didn't talk about that restaurant. There's a Mexican restaurant. What was it called?
Oh, I have to look it up. There's a Mexican restaurant that we went to and the
The food was really good the food was delicious
But the star of the show we got a how do you say that taco?
Barriere birdie birdie. Yeah taco was freaking phenomenal and then they had a pineapple upside down cake that was

(01:34:36):
two fucking die for
It was so good it came out
buttery and hot
And Carmelie like you could tell that they had like the sugar from the pineapple and then I don't know if they put like brown sugar in there
But like it had caramelized. Oh my god
There it tasted like heaven. It was so good

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See gotta go it was called megeleitos grill and cantina
so
Get that pineapple upside down if you're over there go you have to go and do that if you go there
You have to get the pineapple you have to go just for that just go there for that
And and the taco get the taco you'll like it. So there you go. That's the four uh twin peak store

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Part our second twin peaks trip. So
Hopefully you enjoyed that I guess just so you could probably post some photos on the Instagram. Got lots of photos
Yeah, we'll post some photos. So go follow josey at the wise hops too on Instagram and
You know if you like the show you want to go out free patreon.com/breakingsocialnorms get you in

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Okay, have you been on the patreon chat lately? I mean I went on there last night to take a look at what's got we have been so freaking busy
The last two weeks have been insane with like family coming into town and um
Just getting back from the trip and all of that
We and then having to work in between. I just didn't have time to like do anything

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I just was running from one thing to the next
So I haven't been like great on there
But I feel like you can chat with the other members
Back chat with other members. Yeah, the members are chatting. I have to go back on post photos of your
Halloween stuff on the chat
I want to put them in I'll put them there instead of sticking out on an Instagram. Okay. That's why I'm gonna put them. Oh exclusive photos

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patreon.com/Breakingsource North
Okay, all right teams begging me for dinner. So we gotta go all right. Okay
Anything else? Nope, that's it. All right. Thanks for listening till next time. We love you
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