Ep. 494: Theo Campbell Returns!

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
What's up, everybody. This is Scott Jyeger here with another
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came for D And sadly if you came for D, well,
he's no longer on the program because of this man

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we have here today joining me on the pot of
course there because he is always, but also from all
the way across the pond, the Pillow King mister Fido Campbell,
how are you.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Who would have thought pillow fighting was gonna be in
one of my top top three sports?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Should I say? I think?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think I've been missing a trick my whole life.
I mean, running around a track forever, but early I
should have been on the should have been in a
in the arena fighting people with pillows.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, I mean, or you can just bump it up
and like challenge Turbo to a straight real pillow fighting
duel up and up in a ring, because I would
say this was far from a you know.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Pillow fighting contest.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
I mean, you can call it that, and and you
did great at it, and and we'll get into like,
you know, how easy. I mean, it was obviously easy
for you, but I would say I was a weaker
opponent for you. You seem very stable up there. You
didn't hit the water, not one time. You even see
you even surprisingly on your feet, didn't fall into the water.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
I was, I was, I was. I wanted to watch
the I.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Watched the replay because you've played it now a few
times here and there, so I've I've been able to
kind of really watch the replay and see how stable
you were up there.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
But our first infemost.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I want to say thanks for being here, Congratulations on
a big win. I can't wait to talk about all
your other elimination wins, because this is elimination win. I think,
is this seven or nine? This elimination wins seven or
nine for you?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Seven?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
That is okay, and I've done I've done nine. Now
it's my seventh whim. But yeah, really and truly a
lot of people on on the Obviously it doesn't come across.
But remember those pillows. They were just like soft pillows.
They were like heavy, wet duck feather pillows, so they.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Were really like bricks.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
So he was he wasn't just going down because if
you just get hit of a pillow, I mean they
must have weighed like, I don't know, fifteen to twenty pounds.
So like I said, I got I got a long
I got a long arm, so I was I could
I could swing it, swing it hard. So obviously I was,
I was just going for the head. But I when
I was, when I was watching you on the beam,
the same thing I was trying to say to Adrian,

(03:17):
there was a technique.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
To it, because you I seen you.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
You just had your legs wrapped around, and yet you
had basically both your hands off the beam.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
But I was kind of leaning forward, so I kind.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Of wrapped my right leg so I was pushing in
and had my left arm so I was only using
my right arm.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
So it wasn't even.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
About like have a better balance, because you you know,
you're you're a lot shorter than me, and I'm sure
your balance is just as good as mine, if if
not better. But I believe you were sounding it wrong.
You sound it like with your legs across, so use
your side to side motion. Was this It was just
wasn't there where I was kind of leaning forward a bit,
and I had my arm my leg locked in, so
if you hit me to the left, I could use

(03:55):
my arm, or if you hit me to the right,
I could use my leg. So when I was hitting you,
use this sp around because I've seen you had your
feet locked in, and I was like, oh, I mean,
I'm not gonna correct you on it at the time,
but I noticed it at the time. And he said
about turbo as well, old the absolutely bad turbo on
that as well. But the funny thing is, obviously I

(04:15):
seen you using kind of panic mode, like what the
fuck do I do? Because I'm getting absolutely clattered right now.
And obviously I got a longer reach in you, and
I seen you started taking.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Tips from Turbo.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I could also hear what he was saying, so
I knew what he's gonna do. But I had like
he was like, he was like, fake, then let him
swing and then go for it.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
So you you'd fake one.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Then instead of me swinging, I'd fake and then immediately
hit again.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Because I know he was waiting for me to do it.
I was like, I can hear the same shit you're hearing.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
The difference is like you can hear it and then
sit on the log long enough to like think about it.
I couldn't, like you said. I I mean, maybe you
just figured out what I did wrong. And that's like
you said, maybe I was I wasn't staggered. Basically, what
you're saying is like you had your your body staggered,
your legs staggered, and and and kind of you can

(05:13):
kind of had more, uh like area to cover, and
I was just fucking even and trying to squeeze with
my legs and then whenever I got hit or I
teetered to the left and to the right.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I just would go on a circle and I you didn't.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Because you can get hit.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
You had you had nothing, so you're supposed to were
you Was there anything in the rules that said you
could or couldn't use your hands? D Why weren't you
using a hand there?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
I mean, I think after like round one is just
like a like a taste tester, right, Like I'm like, oh, yeah,
I could fucking sit on here. I got I got this,
I got this not and then you're like oh and
then I'm like oh fuck.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Then here comes round two.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
I'm like, all right, would you fucking squeeze a little
bit harder, maybe you put your hand down right, And
then I probably did that and I failed again. And
then the third one fucking turbo screaming, and I'm like, yes,
pillar fight guy.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
I remember seeing you on the clips on the pillow.
Please help me.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
You must know something about pill off fighting, and like
this is all happening like really fast, right, So yeah, he.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Wasn't on the bean. He wasn't on the bean for long.
And I'm sure that water was cold and.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
When you hit the water that your head goes and
I was like, ah, I was like if I just
get the first one in then just hit him really hard,
he's gonna be he's gonna be worried about getting a
hit again, and that they can't that that was kind
of the case.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
But but like I said, I.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
When I was I was watching the back and I
was like, oh, I'm so lucky that you didn't like
move back or so you did try duck, but I'd
come in an angle because I was like a couple
of times I went, I went full send, and I
was like, if he ducks, I'm gonna do it, Adrian
downe and swing myself off. But obviously if you if
you're struggling with balance, obviously you didn't really get a
chance to more lean back. Shall I say? If you

(07:05):
leant back and I missed, and I'd have been gone.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
But I was like, I'm full sending it, and I
swung that really hard.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yea, if any if anyone got hit by that, even
if I got hit by that, it will throw me off,
even if I did have good balance.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
But like I said, when.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
They moved as close so we got the line so
you could hold them with your hands, Scott, but you
know they want to move as closest to the line
as possible, and obviously that line, that line is perfect
for me really because it's like it was like, what
was it a.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Meter like three four ft? Yeah, I was gonna say yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
But it was like your hands. I was like, I
put my hand on the line, but I've got I've
got room to like go back and forward. Well, you
you was kind of sat there and I could kind
of reach you if I lean forward if you left back.
So that there's not really many I haven't had many
challenges where I've had the advantage, but that that was
one of them because it was it was it was

(08:01):
probably to do more with reach and it was just balance.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
And then the third round when I did try to
take advice from anybody like I was, and it just
so happened that Turbo was like the only one that
was trying to help me. I mean, they saw where
this was going. But he and you two obviously have
a serious vendetta going on. I did try to, like,
you know, kind of hold back a little bit, see
if you can swing it, and I could duck it

(08:27):
and then come after you, but I just I just
couldn't stay on there. And then on the fourth one,
the last one. I dude, I was holding on with
two hands. I just I put both my hands down.
I put fucking I I I could and then boom.
I mean it only took you like three shots for
me to go down. But I did feel those I

(08:50):
did feel those final uh three hits. And then, man,
let me tell you, uh and what the people don't
know at home when we walked when we got there,
that pool of water was frozen.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Right, I don't, I don't doesn't know it's water, doesn't
know what the water felt like, this is, this.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Is but you saw it was ice. It was ice, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
On top of that, Yeah, but I'm just saying when
I hit the water, dude, it was tell them how
I mean, it was fucking cold out there, like it
was probably like forty degrees at that point. It's like
eleven pm, ten pm something like that. We're in the
you know, the hills, have eyes mountains. It's fucking cold
up there. You know, people are in hoodies and I'm

(09:44):
just fucking freezing my ass off. And then but but yeah,
uh uh yeah, that's something that no one else would know,
is how fucking cold I was.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, I could imagine all cold, just from the temperature.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Let's go to the stand up here soon and then
we can finish up with this.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, because because I mean last year, you guys remember
d Last year, I believe it was selected as our
our our podcast episode of the year was you and
Arassio going over your elimination because there was a lot
of controversy in it. There was no controversy in this one.
So I feel like we have so much more to
talk to THEO about than this. But go ahead, go
to the stand up.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, we can get through this again.
Like I was, I was, you know, I thought I
would do better like watching this, like if someone if
I was watching this from my couch, I would be like,
what the fuck I could do that? I could beat
this guy, I could whatever, you know what I mean,
I could do better than what Derek did.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Oh way.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
But but not to take anything away from you, like
you were solid on there, like you felt like you could,
like you said, think here, strategize.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
You know you had full body awareness.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Uh, you know, this is just something I I was
just like, I have no aductor strength. I was just like,
my adductors must be so weak that I can't balance
on this ship.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
No, it was like I said that, that's why, that's
why I won quite a lot of eliminations. Obviously one
a lot as well, but from you know, from school
into athletics, because I've always done a bit of coaching
as well, I'm always thinking what to do in terms
of tactical moves and what to do, And it was
it's the same when we went standing, Like when PJ

(11:41):
done that coin flip, I think it knew. I was like,
if Agrient goes on, we're going home. I was like,
the only way you could win is if I win
this coin flip. And obviously, luckily for me, that was
the case.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
But even with that, that was a tactic as well,
because are you right handed?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I assume you're right hand did because
you was holding and you're right So when you got
into the beam, obviously boxing, if you're doing boxing here, obviously.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Jabber your left.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
So when I see you get on, you're facing you're
facing forward, so you had the pillow on your right hand,
so I know automatically you're going to have less balance
by trying to chuck a right rather than a left,
because you're probably better of your left. So I was like, well,
because we're facing we're both facing the same way. Yeah,
I was like, I got my left, I got my
jab hand out and we closed the distance and I

(12:27):
thought you was going to get a bit closer, but
you swang.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I was like, eyes too far away, and.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
And that that beam was because it was so called,
wasn't just like a balance beam. I was like, this
thing so hard to stand on. I was always going
to take as a tap from either of us. So
when you swung, and I just I literally just done
a back hand because I had you had to swing
and still stay stay on. If you swing hard enough,
you're just going to fall off anyway. So when you swung,
I was like, oh golden, So I just I just

(12:54):
put the pillow out and obviously you dived off from there.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
What you take me out as well? Actually I watched
the reap.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I so like, this is all just like instinctual reaction.
So uh yes, obviously when the coin toss is happening,
I'm like, oh fuck, please let D do this.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
You know what I mean, I'm like that guy now, I'm.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Like I finally become that guy where I'm where I'm like,
you know.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
What.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
The girl is better than I am at this. Yeah,
I'm like, let her fucking do it, right, this is
her jam. She just won the balancing competition, uh, last episode,
Like she's she's killing it up here. And you know
when you when you when you met when we matched up,
when you know, matching up Adrian in d uh, you

(13:41):
know over the competitions, like Adrian's been doing much better,
but here she goes you know, the last two episodes,
you know, we did better than you guys, and and
then here we go. Obviously we're in this elimination, but
yes we I think everyone's thinking if d goes in
there against Adrian, she's most likely going to win. So
when when they when it landed on us, I'm like,

(14:05):
oh fuck, all right, we're standing up.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
At least we're standing up. I think I have a good.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Chance at this, right, So I walk I walk out there,
and I'm I feel like it, like I feel okay, right,
Like I feel okay, But I have to also tell myself,
like don't move right, And that was the strategy going
in there's don't move, let him hit me and let
him fall off.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Because the way you walked out there, I.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Mean it was like, it was like, wet, it's gonna
be harder just to stay of violence than it is
to fight on it.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Bro, I didn't even think you were gonna make it
to the to the start, like the way you walked
on there.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
And then I was like, oh, he's gonna fucking fall.
Just don't move, right.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
So then when I the way I had the pillow,
the way I was holding it, I was just like
I was like, I was like, just just stay solid, like,
don't fucking move. But if you're gonna move like I
was gonna, I was just gonna do one of these
and and uh, you know te the the bluegle horn,
Neither one of us moved.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
And then and then TJ started going, you guys gotta go,
you guys gotta go.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
And then I was like, all right, let me let
me just like move and see, like.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Maybe test the range.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
If he tested the range and it was just out
of range, and I was like, he's just in my range.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yes, And and just as I was like, oh fuck,
I I can't even like reach them like like this,
I'm gonna like I would have to I would have
to like throw my body at you for this to work, right, I'm.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Surprised you didn't just spare me off that.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Well then you know, like you leave it in the
judges hands, and you know, like, dude, I was uncomfortable
up there, like I I shouldn't have what I thought,
or initially was I shouldn't have moved. And once I moved,
I started losing my balance and you were like wap boom.
So you hit me while I was already coming off

(16:05):
and I went fucking flying. And was I trying to
grab you? Was I trying to grab the pillow? I
don't fucking know, bro, Like, but you know it would
be interesting, is this would be interesting if I had
grabbed your pillow on the way out, and if if, if,
if you let go of the pillow and then I

(16:27):
hit the water, what would have happened? You know what
I mean? Because technically like I didn't cross your I
didn't cross your beam. I was falling off when you
lost the pillow, then.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
I think they would have given it to me. Still. Yeah,
So but here's.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Where I gotta give you, Here's where I gotta give
you your credit is is I went back to see
like if you.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
What the fuck is that?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Okay, so sorry, So to put an end to to
my my thoughts on this. I was so surprised that
you you hit me and you stayed on. We got
a cameo, Hey buddy, sorry, we're still on your dad
for an hour while.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Ah, I'm just on the phone.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Was gonna watch.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Your your dad.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Hey buddy, your dad had a big win on TV
last night.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
He's like, I don't want to talk to that guy.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Carry on.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
So so I was surprised that once you hit me,
you were still able to stay on, which was incredible.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
And then and then you moved. Then you did like
this little ninja and me.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, man, I was now. I mean I was shaken
up there, but I had it.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I have surprisingly good balance for someone might hight and
then what he didn't show after then I I walked
along the beam again and I was fired up.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I was like, he's not getting it, but they edited out.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
So I then jumped over the water onto the sand man.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I was about eight ft up in the air.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I literally jumped full on obviously the thing that started
the argument off with everyone in Turbo Maine the Turbo.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
So I jumped off and I was like, dag, did
you have it?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Stop my dick.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I was like, what, pussies.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
What But then they added the only added and they did.
They missed that part out. I was like, oh, that
was the best bit.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Hold on, you mean you mean this part right here?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
This is so.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Cringe.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
After this, you might just want to bring that jersey up, buddy,
I take you home. He already skipped it. Incredible.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
We're the biggest dumbest dumb You're gonna.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Want your woods.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
I won't.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Actually, you're gonna want your wood dumb, I won't. You'll
be roughing. I love you, Lial.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
You don't have that Lial book. Shut up, Yeah, shut up.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Everyone's trying to get.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Everyone's trying to get herd of us. That was That
was the clean version. That was because that ship went
on for like five minutes.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Me and Turbo. Turbo was chanting so much nonsense.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know, I'm not gonna repeat what he said, but
the stuff he was coming out with, and and Olivia,
He's like, you have a small dick. Your dick is
two inches long, and Olivia was like, Olivia, Olivia's like, no,
it's not.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
It's actually a really big So he didn't know what
to say.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Then he says something else about me being in Thailand,
and Anissa turns around and says to him, Turbo, that's
a that's transphobia.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
You can't say that. Even though it wasn't what he said.
He's like, feel like.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Lady boys in Thailand and goes, you can't say that's transphobic.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
And SO was like, ah, I run out of things
to say.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
I was like, you're a fake actor, you're pussy. I
was like, calm down here then, and let's go me
and you toe the tobe. I was like, you won't
because you're fake, which is such a shame because me
and Hebert were good friends.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
And I think Bananas nowed it on his podcast when
he done. You know, when he described Turbo, he kind
of you know, he talks about on I talks about.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Loyalty and brotherhood. He says that word a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
But as soon I me and Turbot obviously he doesn't
show on camera because people like, oh, what happened to
you and Turbot?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
But me and him were kind of riding together, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I I saved him from Remember we're going to vote
in d and he was going to be the hang now,
okay whatever, watch to vote in D and I said, ah,
I don't know. I was like, is Turbo going to
be a right about that? And they don't show this,

(21:24):
but Olivia. I was like to Olivia because I think
we had the votes at this point, I said to Olivia,
check with Turbot because people, do you remember there are people?
Then Turbo doesn't mind being a hang now. So I
was like, oh, okay, maybe we can vote D. I
was like, I was like, living, check with chet Turbo
then then if he's okay with it, then we'll do it.
Then she checked with him and he.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
He hit the roof. He's like, fears my brother. Olivia
is my sister. They would never do that to me.
And I was like, oh fuck fake. And this was
literally before we went into the elimination.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
So we was like, all right, we can't vote D
and CT and that they did end up voting D,
but we didn't have a chance talk to anyone.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
So D got like two votes or something. But then
because I.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Saved Turbot, okay, so we just switched our votes and
it was just kind of like all over the place.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Izzy went in. So I was like, you know what,
I like Izzy, She's she's kind of with us.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
But like you know, at the reunion, everyone says, we
had this massive alliance, but we, like a lot of people,
a lot of us are just friends as well, like
with you as well, Derek, because like, oh, we we're
all friends down there, but we're not like having team
talks like upstairs A and so we're like, oh, we
kind of vote together when we can, but we was
just mainly until the halfway point taking the path at

(22:35):
least resistance. So when I saved Turbo from being a
hang now to then find out when because me and
Turbots working together like voting, like I wasn't really doing
that with many people, but when I needed him, I
got up to Turbo go, look, Turbot, I've already been
voted in to get CT I need I need your help.
Now you're working with Nanny, so you got you gotta

(22:56):
help me. He's like, brother, I can't he goes, He goes,
he we're gonna vote Gabe. I was like, now I
can't really vote gay because he's again in the middle
with Johnny. I was like, ah, you know, I don't
think I'll go. If I vote for Gaye, then it's
gonna vote for me. Then I might lose it to
vote six to four. So I was like, you gotta
help me to He goes, no, I can't.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I just saved you like last week, and now you're
not going to try and save me. So now I
understand he was never really rocking with me. He's rocking
with me until it was no longer convenient. And when
he's seen where the numbers were and you know where
where the super Alliance was, and Derek did you notice
as well? Do you know you got like a reunion Mikayla, Nanny, Ashley,

(23:40):
Anissa and Nviva.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
As soon as they got in the house, they all
made a pack.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, that they're all gonna work together and none of
them are going to vote for each other. So they
made that pack that was as clear as day. You know,
Anissa confirmed that, Nanny confirmed at the end. So when
when we had at the reunion, Mikayla screaming a couple
of the lungs like Team UK, I was a Team
UK was never really a thing, a job thing. But

(24:06):
I was like you you're mad at Team UK and
the downstairs Alliance was wasn't really a clear strong thing,
but it was okay.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
For them girls to have that packed upstairs, which is
that was five girls.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Strong, you know, And Anisa was right in that until
until until whenever. So I was like, how could you
get mad at us trying to play the game when
you've already got the game on lock? And I don't
understand where all the bitterness comes from on that end,
because we're doing the same shit as them, but if
we do it, it's a bad thing.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, I mean, it really seems like right now it's
kind of like Mikayla versus Olivia, like Mikayla's team versus
Olivia's team in some ways, like they're like the seemed
to be like the figureheads in some way, so I
think at the beginning, also because it did seem like

(25:00):
there was a UK alliance form, right, it seemed like
once once, uh you know, uh, you paired up with
Izzy and Olivia.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Paired up with who was the first person she paired
up with? Damn, I can't remember, Jake.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Wasn't it no?

Speaker 5 (25:18):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Week one?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Who was her partner in week one? Olivia's Huh?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
How the funk do we not remember this? It wasn't well,
it started off with no, so yeah, who was who
was the team?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Will I think she will?

Speaker 5 (25:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
No, no, no, Jeremy, jem Ave, God.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Damn, this is this is bad. So it was.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Let's just talk about what the beginning of the alliance
was now weeks Listen, is he picks the oh right,
and Olivia is automatically gonna go with uh holy ship this.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Cedric?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
No that Jeremy will Cedric.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Against the anyway we'll go, Well, we'll get back to that.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
We'll get back to that. Let me talk about Turbot.
Let's get back to turbot real quick, because because I
felt like I saw something happening which I then became
a part of, right, because at some point, like me
and you broke up, right, Like at some point we
were voting together almost the same exact way, even when
times were hard during the the Jeremy and and Ben.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Vote, like we we we tried, we tried to work together.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
And then they came came a point where I partnered
up with D and I went and fought for you guys, right,
like I fought then it not even showed, but like
I really tried to for the vote to go Lee
Roy and America right, and and I just I fucking

(27:03):
couldn't right. There's just too many of them. And when
I went to Turbo, I go, what's Turbo and Sydney
gonna do? And they're like, well, they're gonna burn because
Sydney can't vote for Leroy and THEO can't vote for uh,
I mean in Turbo can't vote for THEO.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
And I go, well, then that fucking makes us the
swing vote.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
That why do Why am I gonna like, why do
we have to be the final say like he like,
they need to pick a side.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
You know, and then not until the numbers is clear.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
So then what happened was you guys talked h well,
then you guys got voted and went in against CT.
I felt shitty about it, we talked about it, different
game whatever. And you go in there, you beat CT
and and and TAY, and then you come back and
you know you are now going to basically be the

(27:57):
House vote no matter what, unless you like you're you
guys are just fucked you and A specifically, so you're
so you go and you pull this fast one, right,
you talk Gabe into staking your claim, which is genius, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Genius, by the way.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, there you was there even though I helped push
him do it, he was the one saying he wanted
to do it anyway, right.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
He was like, damn whatfuckers day claim? Johnny is this?
Johnny is that?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
And it wasn't really like who cares, you know. But
once I realized I'm locked in, and I was like
ship Tobos abandoned me. Our fucking downstairs. The lines doesn't exist.
We can't we can't scramble up three votes together.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
It wasn't like a well thought plan, and I thought, oh,
how am I going to get around this? But but
it only happened because I spoke to Johnny. Johnny was like,
who's she with? You know who? Yeah, But it was like,
you know, years of d I mean, he's.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Like Derek Derek.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
The way Derek's playing this game this season, he's just
he's just surviving. He's not He's not That's not it
was is he not uses surviving? Hes being like, you
know what, I've kind of I fell on the right
side just by, you know, just because I got lucky,
and it's like it can't I get it. It kind of
made more sense to ride on that side than it
would with us because we.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Was out numbered.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
So I was like, all right, Derek, you know, with
with d now, and you know she's got more attitude
than him, so he's probably just gonna do it, she says,
because why not?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
And Johnny.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
That's what I went to Johnny and Johnny, you know,
I was like, who are who are you gonna vote?
I'm trying to like muster up four votes here, and
I've already spoke to Turbo and He's only gonna say
Johnny and Gabe. So I'm like, I got my I
got the two people I unless I can't vote Johnny
and Gabe because they're just gonna chuck it back on me.
And Turbot only would vote that way, so I was like,

(29:51):
what the fuck is going on? So when I was
just with Johnnay like maybe Ashley and Leo and as
as a as a preference, but I haven't spoken to
anyone about it. So then she goes away and it
comes back around. I get Jake and Gabe run up
to me, like Johnny said, you're trying to get out
Ashley and Leo, and I.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I was like, fuck it. I was like, she just
stirred up what they said. So I'm gonna lie. I
was like, no, I never I just spoke to Johnny.
What's you all about?

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Gabe's like, that's it. I can't stand this girl. I
was like, well, you might as well steak. I reckon,
like this girl's crazy.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, and then you got to lose.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I was like, gay, she's gonna she's gonna fuck up
your game. When it wasn't a lie and didn't lied
to him. I just kind of I pushed him. But
even Olivia, Olivia was watching a bat like THEO. I thought,
like the the votes were locked in on Johnny and Gabe.
I was like, baby, if I let you in on
a secret, right, you.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Wouldn't have sold it so well. So I had to
lie to you as well.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
That's crazy, yeah, because in the end it looks like
Olivia pushes it is the final push, right, She's like,
you got a steake, you got you can be justin
at anything. And then I'm kind of frustrated with john
a here because she doesn't stand up for herself right
like you, Like, you guys are all in the same
room and you guys are both being confronted about you

(31:16):
know who said Ashley and Ashley and Leo's name and
it's you, but she's not saying that it's you, like
she's still.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Like Derek, I'm looking at like this, Did I and
I just rode off Johnny's I don't know what I
do know it was I was like, did I Johnny?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Are you sure? She was like fuck?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Because Johnny was all over the place. I don't think
she knew where she was. So I was like, I'm
gonna have to I'm gonna I never lie. But that
was the first time I was like, I have to
because there's no getting out of this.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
And if it was, if it was a different if
itels a.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Different pair to go again, then it wouldn't be so
worried and my but Aviv and yearing me are the
arguably that the best thing that and I do fancy
my chances against them.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Four.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
If I'm going to go into the next fucking eight eliminations,
I need to find a way to swing it. And
remember Derek, Yeah, it wasn't just me. I'm getting all
the credit for him. But ultimately, you know, I I
suggested to Gabe that he should steak, but ultimately, remember
of the reunion, Herbo said that he was the one
who got gave to steak four on Nanny for Justin,

(32:34):
which is news to us. I was like, just me,
it's me, Olivia, Jake Turbo. Everyone was telling him to
stake and he wanted to so, yes.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
It wasn't you, It wasn't Olivia.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
It was actually, uh, Turbo makes a final like, uh,
you know in Turbo, in Turbo language, you should go
steak on Nanny, which is not what he was saying.
He was just like, you need to be on Nanny's team,
like you need to wherever Nanny's team is, Like that's
where you need to go, and gave understood it is like, oh,
I guess I need too.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
English isn't that bad? I think he did say stake
for Nanny. His English is not that bad. He makes
out that his English is worse than what it is,
but he's not going to say something like that and
be that confused.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, I mean he's he's I'd say his English is
really good, especially when he's trying to fucking rip c TEA.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I got all the words, you.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Know, Yeah, elis is English is good enough.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, but that was yeah, that was that was that
was a move.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I guess. So let me tell let me add this.
That's how you what wasn't a move?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, Lee Roy doing that fake decoy thing, Yeah, to
pretend to vote in Anisa and uh.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Jay to get me not to stake. But they didn't
show you.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I say in all my interviews, I'm like, obviously we're
going to fall for this, but the original and they
try to do that because me and Adrian set that,
sat down and.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Was like, should we fuck with everyone? Let's pretend to steak.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Let's just keep putting out there we're gonna steak, yeah,
just to get them sweating, and they run around the
whole house sweating for twenty four hours like oh.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
We're not Oh we're not gonna We're not gonna vote
for you in now.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I was like, that's so dumb, because I have to
make the choice before you vote. And I was like,
so I'm I'm not gonna steak anyway, because I was like,
because really and truly, here's here's what it was.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
People keep saying, why didn't I steak?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I've only got one person a steak for, and that
would be Sydney against Herbo. But I was like, I
need to save my steak. Okay, you know, I don't
know how far I'm gonna get in this game. But
the one thing I won't do and ask go against
Olivia and elimination. So I was like, if she loses, okay,
then our steak. I was like, if Adrian wants to
do it, she could do what she wants. But I

(34:54):
was like, I'm the only reason. The only way I'm
gonna steak until at least get close to the final. Maybe,
but doubt it because I really like Adrian is if
Olivia and Will loses and they try to put me
against o Livia and Will. So I was like, if
that's the case, I'm gonna take away Turbo's best chance
of winning. I was like, so, no matter what, I
will win the steak. I'll take Sydney off him and

(35:15):
then I'll just lose on purpose. So then me and
Sydney are going home, Olivia stays in the game and Turbo.
You know, Sidney was the best girl in there, let's
be honest. So I was like, then they're gonna decrease
his chances. I was like, if he does get to
the final, and we know how finals are, it's usually
the battle of the girls, right, It's typically not all
the time, but typically the guys could beat the girls

(35:36):
one way, one way or another, so it's usually it's
often the battle of the girls. I was like, if
I take Sydney away from him, then he then I
might Olivia's definitely gonna win if we get that far.
But that's my as my mindset, So I was like,
I need to save the steak in case I.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Go against Olivia. So that was a terrible decoy.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, and then like them saying that you might stake
on on America, but I.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Was like, what did I hear that? Correct? Like Lera
is not like, no, man, I'm keeping my partner, Like.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
I didn't know why would anyone do that?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
One One the difference is if I staked for America, their.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Difference would be I'm still gonna get voted straight in,
but now it's partners America.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
That was zero benefits to any of that.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, I heard that.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
I heard that rumor going around like that, and I
was just like, I don't want anything to do with this.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
I don't want anything to do with this.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
Yeah, it was always anyway, So the argument between you
and once you realized that that that Turbo is not
going to He's not voting against you, but he's also
not voting to help you.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
That's when the argument, like last episode during the Exile
where it's called during the stake the claim between Justin
and Gabe, you guys really get into an I think
you went, I mean, you were just losing your mind
at this point.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
You were like, I.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Think you had realized that, like, you know, you basically
pushed gave into doing this, you don't know what your
fate is and uh and Turbo is basically and you
called everyone a pussy.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
That's what it was.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
You called everyone a pussy, and Turbo's like, don't call
me a pussy. And this is where it started between
you guys. And you were like, well, if you're not
gonna help me and you're saying that you're my friend,
then what the fuck is this? And that's when you
guys like really broke up.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, well as well, when I called everyone a pussy,
he chose to take that personally. He knew, he knew,
he knew it is a blank blanket statement. So when
when I seen him take offense to it, I'm like, Oh,
you're looking for ways out, You're looking for excuses that.
I was like, you're looking for excuses, You're looking for
ways out. So I was like, because he knows. And

(37:53):
then Sydney tried to cause. Sidney is like, oh, I
like you thea like yours in Turbo's friendship, and she
doesn't want us to go against each other because that's
not good for her game. And she was like, I
spoke to Turbo. He's willing to talk to you and
you two, could you know, make amends.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I was like no.

Speaker 9 (38:10):
I was like, why should I go and make I
didn't do anything wrong against him, because I know how
it is now, So I'm gonna I'm gonna go and
apologize and try to make friends.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Breaking up a little bit a little zippy h.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
You're still there? Oh check check check check check check check.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Ship before before I lose uh, before I lose him.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
He's talking about Turbo being friends with Turbo.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
I wanted to know, like who his like number ones
were at the beginning, and how like established you know
that friendship was going into it because you know it's
at some points like their chap as goes home, is
he goes home, you know Turbos are no longer a friend.

(39:00):
But I was trying to figure out, like how close
these like number ones really were. Now we've completely lost
him and Scott, we haven't heard you talk a lot,
but what do you think about this?

Speaker 10 (39:10):
So?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well, look, you guys, obviously you guys are both in
this together. So it's you know, it's one of those
things where I could tell when you get going, it's
like you know, you're you're asking questions, probably for our
listeners benefit, but also maybe for yourself as well. Right,
so this is like I mean, I imagine maybe you
guys have regrouped a couple of times since the season,
but this is probably you know, you guys you know

(39:31):
talking about this more than you have at all, including
on the show, if I had to guess, right, So
you know, uh, you know, I certainly have questions, but
I want to let you get to yours. So that's
why I'm kind of you know, taking a back seat
here because you know, it's not just a guy that
you went head to head with on a log, but
you know you were working alongside him or part of

(39:52):
the season then as you said, you know, jump ship
somewhere along the way and clearly him in the lib
are you know, for better or for worse? Kind of
you know, playing one of the more highlighted games this season.
Whether you're playing with them more against them, they're certainly
the focal points.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
So well, his back is completely against the wall now,
you know. And when him and Turbo got into it, uh,
I learned a few things both from Turbo and THEO,
and that Turbo basically gave us his like the four
people he's working with, and one of those four people

(40:29):
was not D right, he said, he said, Nanni's lined
up with with Leroy and Ashley, and that's my line.
So in my head, I go, oh fuck, I'm sitting
here on the sideline and he doesn't say D. He

(40:52):
he has, he has. This is his his alliance, right
and we're not in it. So that's that's a that's
a point to be taken. And then uh and then uh,
you know, as far as THEO goes, I'm watching this
thing as like a sinking ship.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Like he's going off. Everybody's watching him.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
His his you know, Olivia is is almost like mortified
because he's now gone off pitching for thirty minutes while
these two are out doing uh an exile and I'm
thinking this is a sinking ship and now the only
thing he can really do is like go into elimination
and survive like he's he's in that position right now?

(41:32):
All right, we got him back, no breaking up.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I had it on a portable one.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
But.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
So so like, like, I feel like seeing you play
this game like it can it can be looked at.
I think it's a savvy game. I think it's a
smart game. I think you're an extremely street smart game player.
What was your plan at the beginning?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (42:02):
You know, was it you, Olivia, Derek Traves and Turbo
like to the end or like, because obviously the the
you know, you, Derek and Olivia had to have been
a squad. But then where does Turbo come in?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
See, Like I come into this game, I didn't really
have any enemies, so I wasn't really like thinking of
who to get. Obviously it started off with Bananas and Olivia.
I tried to mediicate that and you know, try to
be like instead of, you know, my girlfriend and Johnny
I've done every season with and we've never gone against
each other instead of instead of battling it out while

(42:44):
did we work together? But they just both didn't trust
each other. You know, Johnny was more open to it
than Olivia. But Livia's like, look, I'm not gonna fool
for this. We need to get him out. O wise,
he's gonna he's gonna get us now. She was like,
if it's not now, it's going to be later on.
So she was like why wait, She was like, why
wait until he gets a better opportunity to get me

(43:05):
out when he's managed to wrangle up his numbers and
you know, build up his team while you know he
doesn't really have that, and you know, we come into
the game and talking to everyone like Nanny and you know,
even a viv They were like, look, we're not here
to play Johnny's game. So when we realized that, she
was like, we got to do it off the bat,

(43:26):
and obviously I didn't.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I didn't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
And like I said, it was kind of whispers around
the house waiting for the opportunity to arise.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
And obviously the first opportunity was him being a hang.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Now, so everyone jumped on the opportunity to who's he with?

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Who become the hang now? I think it was like yeah,
it was like no, it was a whole house. So
it wasn't it wasn't just Olivia. He was fighting the.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Whole house, the CT, all the girls, his girls as well.
Everyone was gunning for him straight away, and you know,
I guess ultimately he got He got himself out losing
the actual challenge, so she was that was it.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
So once he lost and left, were kind of like.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
NPCs just walking around the house and I'm I'm I'm
always waiting for smoke, which is probably the bad part
of my game. I'm like, all right, who wants to
bring it of me? Because there's no one. I only
had Yeoman yeary Me on my mind. But you know,
you've had it Derek before. You know, I don't know
how many finals you've been to and you have it won,
and you know you've been like, oh shit, I wish

(44:32):
I wish I made a move sooner. Yeah, because by
the time I was ready, I was ready to make
a move, it was too late.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
So I only had yeary Me in my mind.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
But yeah, because it kept switching and I wasn't really alied.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
I wasn't aligned with many people. You know, I'm always
I don't have.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
A big entourage of people to roll with. You know,
I had I had a Libya, but you know her people.
It was like Derek and stuff because Melvets we he
was very broken. The girl Vets had it locked upstairs.
So you got the girl Vets. They had locked the partners,
all five of them all glue together. That's mel Vets.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
You know. I kind of had her about the beginning.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I'm you know, I'm a younger Vet compared to you know,
you Leroy, CT and Johnny, so.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
It was kind of like me and Turbo.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Then it was like, you know, trying to work with
CT is just like the worst thing ever to do. Anyway,
Lee Roy is like, yeah, yeah, maybe we could work together,
but he's just kind of he just drifted through as well.
You was kind of like trying to see where your
little plays fors as well. But it was just like
a bunch of different random islands and we couldn't really
connect because because of the girls, you know, and it's

(45:41):
like we can't all work together. So it's like where
it's going to branch off. And when it did branch off,
I was kind of stranded.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
I was like, oh shit. I was like they was
thinking ahead of us.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
They was getting out Olivia's people, you know, they got
rid of Derek, got rid of well.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
It is he was kind of with us.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Uh, you know, Kara left and Niah left and.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
After that that was it. That was our team. It
was kind of it was just us.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
So like I said, I wasn't gunning for anyone to
begin with because I didn't know who the gun for
and he had only had the people who I thought
who could annihilate me in the final on my on
my books was like that year me first.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
But by the.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Time it locked in and we were partners, we fucked.
When Adrian said, yeah, I want to partner with you.
And the first thing I said to Adrian I was like, oh, so,
what are connections you have in this house?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Who's your friend? She's like Olivia. I was like, oh,
we're fuck.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I was like, you mean Olivia, that's that's my girl.
So we both have the same number one.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
So yeah, it was like and that was it. That's
what made us the easier target.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Yeah, And and and uh, you know, those those those
girls upstairs were gunning for Adrian. Like she was almost like,
you know, public enemy number one, you know, to them
above everybody else. So like I said, like, you're you're
you're you're street smart, savvy. Ways in the house, especially
with the with the Gabe push is is is good.

(47:12):
But at the same time, like here you are still like,
you know, like you guys are the target, Like you
guys are the ones that are probably you know, gonna
be going in every single time because like Olivia and Will,
like they're kind of a fucking scary team, and Will
still has that connection to Nanni that you know he hates.

(47:34):
It's very helpful.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Where is that where the Mikayla hate comes from?

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Of course if you look at it like this, Yeah, McKayla.
Mckayla's you know, giving her flowers. She's she's smart enough
as well. She probably thinks similar to me, she wants
to get because we always have to consider as well
it could go individual the Mechayla's probably looking around, you know,
I think in the final she I think maybe nine
and Aviv could beat her in the final Sydney. But

(48:03):
these at all girls she's lined up with. She's like, oh,
she's not lined up with Olivia, so really she wants
to go for Olivia.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
But she's like she.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Needs she needs they need they need the excuse because
you remember that there's nine teams and then there's me
and Olivia and I got Jake, but Anisa is still
me the amount of arguments me and Anissa had because
it didn't show when they had that argument Ashley and Anita.
I was the only person, yeah to say something to Ashley.

(48:32):
No one else said anything. And then she had the
argument of nanny and then I was like, look, come
move into our room, come downstairs. So Anita's moved into
our room. So like, oh, you know, well, it's like this,
And after two weeks she literally turns around to say
and says to me and Adrian are, by the way,
if I had, if I had to choose between michaela Cedric,

(48:52):
you and Adrian are, choose those two.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
So I was like, Olivia, get this girl out of
my room. I'm like like, I don't care. I was
like Mikayla and said to do nothing. You didn't even
know Mickayla et Cedric.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, I was like, she is willing, she's not because
they made this pact at the beginning. She she's willing
to down the hill where she's not. She's coming to
a room. I was a mckaya didn't say anything to Actually,
she was there laughing.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
The whole situation with half the house.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I was like, I was the only want to stick
up for you, but still you want to, you know,
protect them over me.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
So I was like, yeah, I was like going to
fuck out my room.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I mean, and needs to have this argument like ten
times by trying to kick out my room so many times.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
I was like, you're not even with me.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
So they got nine people on their team, and I've
got me and me and Olivia. You know who's attached
to Will. So it's me, Adrian, Olivia and Will with Jake. Luckily,
Jake has sense and Jake's like, nah me, I won't
let her live. I won't let Anissa do that, I promise.
So then it kind of becomes nine verse three. But yeah,

(49:55):
but but like I, like I said, I was like,
I don't even believe I was the real target. I
was just in the way as an excuse because once
I left, say say, say, say, I get out of
the way. Yeah, it's the case of they can now
get Olivia, because are we gonna ask to vote for
you know, we got this packed with Anissa. But really
and truly, if they were smart, you know, you probably

(50:16):
want to pick Anissa and Jake to get further in
the game, then you would Olivia and Will so that's
what he was waiting for. And and Mikayla's getting slow
annoyed and she's like, oh my god, why haven't Fie
go homes They could finally target Olivia and and talk
Nanny talk nanny around.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
But I if I.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Derek, if we had the numbers, if I had nine, yeah,
say there was Say there's nine of us and we're
going to get two people. But this there's there's Jeremy
on the other side. I don't care if Flipping Adrian
is or Izzy is Maggie Jeremy, because I'll go, look,
I know we're together, We've got the super alliance, but

(50:56):
your boyfriend has to go. Your boyfriend is going I'm
voting for you boyfriend. Okay, I'm not voting for you know,
I'm not voting to save his friend and going a
long way around.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
I'm going straight for the target.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
And I think that is one of the reasons Kana
is getting so frustrated because she can't go for the
person she really wants hm hm.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Or like I tweeted, oh she's in love with me,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yeah, no, I mean look, look, I mean it doesn't
matter how you're playing the game. Like eventually, like if
say and and that that sides perfect world, Like eventually
they get you and Adrian to go against Olivia and Will,
which I would think that that's what you would want
to do.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Same thing if the numbers were over here and it
was Cedric.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
And Mikayla and Jeremy and Aviv, like you guys would
be gunning to probably make that happen, right, So eventually
the whole squad up there, if you two were gone,
they're gonna have to come after each other one way
or another, you know.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
So I think in general.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
The game, the game is getting frustrating. I just I
mean the fact that the reason why Mikayla got mad
this this episode and said it was because of you.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
It was because of you.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
She said I was cheating. I was like, that's not cheating.
I was like, I know we've lost because America and
Leroy had about fifty meters on us, and I was like,
let me just let Leroy know who's who's better.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Who's faster, who's a faster sprint and because we don't
already know that.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
But I'm a sprinter and I rarely get a chance
to sprint in Talent. They're like two hours long. So
I was like, let me just open my legs up
for once. So I was like, the position is going
to be the same, but I was going to get
I want to get eighth place glory, Okay, become pretended
I could have done one position bad.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
So I run past Leroy in America. I know I
can't finish.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
So mckayleem turned around like he's cheating us, Like it's
not cheating because it doesn't change the outcome of anything.
I'm not like getting in the way or trying to
tackle them. So yeah, that that in itself saying I'm cheating.
And Olivia didn't say much to her, did she. She goes,
can you just leave it? Because she's always in a
show most of it. She's always having little digs here
and there. She said a bunch of stuff. She's stuff

(53:20):
about me all the time. I'm like whatever, Like, you know,
I don't brush it off, but you know it gets frustrated.
And Olva's is just like, can you just not say
any Why do you always have to say anything? There's
always against the feel, but not always to me, but
it'll be under her breath so Olivia can hear.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
So when Olivia said that tiny like can you not, babe,
you know, can.

Speaker 7 (53:39):
You not she gonna punch you in the face, It's like, whoa,
that is zero to one hundred out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
So, I you know, I don't quite understand why. You
know it had to go there straight away. But you know,
Mikayla won't. You know, he's seen at a reunion.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
She won't. She'll take.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Her reasons into things that don't make sense but also
confused at the same time.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
So you just scratching your head at the end, Like.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I don't think we all have to like each other.
I think it's okay, Like she didn't punch her in
the face. I think it's like as dudes who have
been in plenty of scraps in our lives, like.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
I think it's like it's it's a different.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Way of saying, like, you know, fuck you, get the
fuck out of my face, I'm gonna suck you up
something like that. Maybe it's not warranted, especially now because
the AI on Grock it says I think Mikayla wants
to punch pregnant Olivia in the face.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
I can't see that.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Right, says veteran Mikayla against rookie Olivia.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I might that should be switched then against five months
pregnant Olivia. As much as as much as hilarious as
this is, I.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Mean, internet is great, it's great for the viewer.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I think, you know, if I if I put my
personal I mean I don't even dislike Michayla, but if
I put my personal opinions about her to the side, Uh,
you know, we're here to make.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
A TV show, and she's she's doing that.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
And really she's kind of like if she's really a rookie,
you know, when it comes to flag Ship, she's only
done one extra week than all the rookies. So you know,
I didn't know that. I thought she's done the show,
you know, more times than what I was. So she's she's
doing she's doing something right.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
And she's like extremely smart. Sorry, she's extremely smart. She's
she has a top of the leaderboard men and women,
both sides, and and she's got you know, Cedric as
her partner, had the number one pick in the draft.
And I don't think she's trying to make I don't
think she's trying to make TV.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
I think she's doing it by accident.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
You know, That's what makes it good, because yes, she
she believes everything she says.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
She will be getting a callback. I think she is
definitely done all that she has needed to do. But
let me ask you, this is this the first season
that you feel not just like a veteran in that, Okay,
you've done, now what is it for or five seasons
under your belt, but being a veteran in that the
Michaela's of the world, the other teams of the world

(56:16):
are treating not just you, but you, Olivia, the people
that are in your orbit as the main threats on
the season, as the people we need to get out,
as the puppet masters of the show. Obviously, you got
your Johnny Bananas, your ct your Derek's, your your actual
veterans who have done fifteen plus seasons, but you guys
have clearly been the focal point for almost everybody playing
against you or alongside you. I want to know. Obviously,

(56:38):
last season on forty you're representing Era four and you
walk into this season you're on the vets side, if
you will. But I just want to know as far
as the posturing goes, as far as the social political
alignment of the game goes. Is this the first season
where you really feel like you, specifically but also Olivia
have a full stranglehold not just on the game itself

(56:58):
but the participants.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I mean, I wouldn't say we've got a stranglehold on
the game going judging how everything's going, but I've definitely
learned from past.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
You know, I guess that you get out with experience.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
You know, Olivia's got the same when it comes to
making decisions and being a bit more ruthless. You know,
in the past, I've kind of just sat back and
let them just let things happen without trying to do anything.
And you know when I've done that in the World
Wars two, even though I couldn't have done anything about it,
this is a similar situation. I was like, I didn't
even really try and save myself. I just see where

(57:36):
the numbers are at. I was disgustingly outnumbered, and I'm
going to go in until I go home. And but
I didn't try and do anything. I didn't try and
come up with any ideas to save myself one way
or another. The probably couldn't of anyway, because it's a
similar situation. So I thought this time, I was like,
all right, at least try and do something, you know,

(57:57):
because I don't want to. I don't want to go
home and think, oh, what as you Why didn't you
think of something to do or play the game or
you know, even.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Even on seasons though where you've made it far, whether
it's like you know, the Global Championship or War the
World's won, you know, it felt like it was more
you know, your your success, you know, winning the eliminations,
getting there, you know, the long and the hard way,
and and we weren't really getting walked through, you know,
the decisions you were making in the game, whether you
were making them or not. I want to know, is

(58:28):
it Olivia that's bringing this out of you?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Like? Is it that?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Or is it having your backup against the wall as
much as it is for you guys?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
No, it's definitely having my back against the wood, and
I get I guess it's being fullth into the game
as well. You know everyone, you know, CT wrote the
book on trying to be a floater, and a lot
of people try and do that, you know, trying a
lot of people try and stay out the way.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Not you know, this guy right here apparently, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
A lot of people try and stay out the way
until the time is cool. But when when when your
time is cool? When when when you know you're going in?
Like I like, how I've got it? Then I was like,
all right, now, now it's game on, you know, unless
I got someone's able to go after, you know, like
a pooorie or someone that I'm coming for them. But
you know, I've kind of you know, I say, World
Wars one, me and Cara was just winning so much.

(59:16):
We didn't really have to strategize anything really because it's
the way the game was. World War Two, I was
chucked in a bunch of times, couldn't do anything about it.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Global Champs it was from the beginning. We had the
game or lock from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
You know, it's me, Kaz, Jordan Tory, my partner Sarah Danny.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
We we's the opposite side. We kind of had the monopoly.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
So it was like there wasn't there wasn't really much
to do other than just not lose pretty much. And
and like I said, forty forty was like you know
what the kind of cast the fans being begging for
for god knows how long.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
But the way the system was set up.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
It was just whoever loses, whoever wins elimination chooses target.
So again, there wasn't really much gameplay to hat apart
from and we're just being and it's taking it in
turns being targets pretty much, and it wasn't really like
anything to battle against or think about because it was
just like it just it's just the way the can'ts
fell this time around. Obviously a lot of bit to

(01:00:13):
do with the game set up and this this this
was set up to called conflict and have it the
way is now, which is great, you know, because then
it forces people to pick sights. Unfortunately I've got the
whole house against me. But you know, if it forces
you to make moves rather than this kind of sit
back and coast, because what you know, once your name's

(01:00:33):
being called, do you think, all right, that's I've been
tagged into the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Well, CT and Derek, whether they're writing or reading those
books on coasting, they they wrote them because for years
and years they were the people that people were going after,
you know, and and now, like I said, you have
sort of been elevated into that position, as has Olivia.
You know, when you start off a season and it
seems like Olivia and Johnny Bananas here, Johnny Bananz has

(01:00:58):
pushed aside. Now it's Olivia and Mikayla here, or yourself
as well, and stuff like that. I mean, you know,
like you said, but maybe it's not stranglehold on on
the game or the participants, but it's definitely a stranglehold
on the edit, right, because you know, we're definitely watching
this game through your guys's eyes, and you guys are
articulating the moves that are being made against you and

(01:01:19):
the moves you are at least attempting to make to
stay out of the fire. And so you know, that's
something you don't often, you know, hear from people. And
so this to me is the first season where we're
really getting a look at you from as from the
strategic point of view. So it's adding a new layer
to your game, even if it's coming from a place
of necessity that you wish you didn't have to have it.
But you know, you know, definitely something that's I think

(01:01:42):
has been fun to watch, and you get that's why
you have those Michayla's out there trying a gun for you.
All right, do you go next? And then I'm gonna
pull some questions from people.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Yeah, yeah, I don't have much left here, man, uh
I just want to get into some of these. You know,
you got elimination king here as your as your uh
as your as your name? Who give us a little
rundown on these seven elimination wins that that you've had.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Give's a little reminder of.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
How you look.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I don't know how many people in history I've gone
against the Big four.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
You know, I've got Jordan on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
The list, all right, He's the only one who's beat me,
and I can beat that bananas c T and now
and now Derek.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
So I've managed to go against three.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Of the top three top four players and definitely best
elimination challenges of all time. But yeah, I guess yes,
seven seven out of two is not too bad. That's
a pretty good ratio.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
What's the one you wish you could have? Obviously, Jordan
you mentioned got the got the win over you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
It was the hammer, the hammer, right, the hammer?

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
And then the other one was the other one, a
second one against Johnny. What was the other one, right, Yeah,
the other one, the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Second the second one against Both of my ones against
Johnny have been in tiny little cages in elimination because
it's like, all right, dailies, I haven't been due to
grating because the first half of the season, you remember
that I was injured.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
I was injured as I was just I was just
so lucky not to come last, you know, That's what
I was. All I was trying to do. I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I couldn't walk, like my knee was gone, my back
was gone, so I couldn't. I couldn't really do much.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
The fact that I didn't lose was was a miracle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
So the dailies, uh this sometimes a lot of dailies
they work in your favor and a lot of them don't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
And there you know this as well, the male Vets
and IF and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
The rookie girls, one wasn't a good partnership because we
wasn't as good as the rookie guys, okay, but the
female Vets they were better than the rookie girls. So
that partnership, you know that the rookie guys being with
the female vets just automatically they had a better team.
No matter who you paired anyone up with, they just
they just had a better team. But in terms of elimination,

(01:04:00):
and it's but one in one because elimination is a
short so like this is this way it comes into
my game. So you know, I have one hundred percent
confidence in eliminations, but dailies.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Dailies are like is anyone's game.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
But but going back to the eliminations, the other loss
that you have one is Jordan with the hammer, and
the other one was against Johnny Bananas in the cage.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Right, we had the role and I think you had the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Lead, right, No, I won that one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Oh you won that one, okay, and then yeah and
on season forty you lost to you lost to Johnny
got it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah, it was a kind of a tiny little cage
where I mean you would be, yeah, you would beat
Johnny in that just because you're you're smaller. And I
was just like, but I never get, like, I don't
I rarely get apart from a whole brew, I rarely get.
Maybe you could count this one as a slight advantage,
but I'm always fired up for like a head banger
or something. I lady get an elimination where you know,

(01:04:55):
west shrimp size and speed matter, but I want to
get c T.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I was like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
What do you think about these new threats we got
this year? They're obviously very outspoken. You know, what do
you think from where you sit, whether it's you know,
the Sydney's and the D's on the female side, or
whether we've got Jeremie and Cedric and even Gabe who
just went out but had an impressive elimination. Who do
you think has the most legs for a challenge future?

(01:05:31):
And why.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
If I, if I have blanket State, would have the
rookie guys to start with. You know, I think they
got their bodies are made out of granite, you know,
they're solid. Mentality is made out of soggy wet tissue,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
So they they've got they've got the they've got the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
External part of the game, but the internal part member direct.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
The amount of I think they all cried.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
On the first night they was having like a one
up story like who's had it the hardest in life?
I was like, what the fuck are you telling everyone about?

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Like straight straight off the bat. So there was all crying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
They all cried like every other day about one through
or another. Everyone bar Jake, shall I say, but individually
what so what?

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
Who who was coming back?

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Who's coming back?

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
I made a list after I finished, but I don't
know if I was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I was, you know, salty about it at the time,
but who knows. I think Sydney. Sydney's great, even though
she's not confrontational in real life. She's a great competitor
and apparently a confessional queen. I think is he and
Adrianne because you know they they're about it in real
life and they're not scared to speak up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Who's I say?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
You know, Leo's annoying as hell, and Leo, Leo for
the first four.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Weeks done really well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
You know, he was on this movement, but as soon
as he's partner of Ashley absolutely disappeared.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
He's literally like actually his little lap dog, you know.
I guess, yeah, I mean, what.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
About even though we just lost what about Gabe? What
do you think about Gabe here?

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
I think, oh, yeah, I think Gabe's fantastic. I think,
I mean, I think, I mean, you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Need somebody who you can play like a fiddle from
time to time, you know what I mean, because then
they come back and they know how to play the fiddle,
you know. So yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Think he shuld bring Gay back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
He made every mistake you could make pretty much on
his rookie season, which is fantastic TV. You know, like
we see we see the you know, the fans complain
about people being messy and having fights and stuff, but
when it happens, they're like, no, we you know, get
rid of this guy. He's terrible, the worst person ever.
It's like, are you not entertained? Like, all right, you don't.

(01:07:49):
You don't like what he's done to John Ay? But
I thought it was great TV, and I thought that
was pretty much. I think the last two episodes has
probably been the best two. You know, one of them
was one of them was cause of him.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
I have one I have one stupid question that I
have to ask every episode. Now it's it's a different
stupid question, but I have a stupid question. It's about
a guy that I think you beat an elimination.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Uh was it? Did you beat Idris in elimination?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
I remember.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
And he's also a guy that I don't think we'll
ever see back. And THEO has the story. THEO has
the story on why Idris will never be back.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
On the challenge.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Can you can you tell us one more time? What
he did when he was living in the Challenge house
with you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Oh my god, he done.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
He's done a bunch of weird things. But I think,
do you mean the time he done a silent protest?

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Yes, I he.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
This guy didn't talk anyway. He was like so timid.
He was just like he just wasn't supposed to be.
I don't know how I got in Love Island, let alone,
the challenge totally totally out of place physically he was
he was physically he's a good boxer, but he wasn't
really good. He wasn't like good at the challenge, you know,
but he didn't talk. You know, he's just awkward. I

(01:09:09):
think he's I think he's something. But yeah, then he
went on he got a mic fine I think for
five hundred dollars. And when you when it's your first
season and you're on like a grand a week, you know,
five hundred dollars is a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
So he was fuming. I was like, how did he
get a mic fine because he didn't speak anyway? That's
so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
So then he went on like a two or three
day silent protest and no one noticed until he kept
moving out the way of the camera. They're like, you're
just standing stand there. He's like no, He's like I've
been on because I haven't spoke for two days and
I'm not talking until you get rid of my fine,
Like what.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
I was like, Oh, yeah, I guess we haven't really
spoke to him. He won't talk to anyone. Yeah, you
spoke just a couple of days. Like, no, didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I didn't really notice. It was like it just you
didn't really talk anyway. So it wasn't much of a protest.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
And yeah, I mean he's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Still he's still protesting. He has he has. He has
not appeared on a season since until he gets that
money back. He will not appear on the challenge.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
He it was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
He was extremely active on social media, Like if you
brought this energy into the house, you'd be fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
But you know, you can't be a keyboard warrior. Once
the show's done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
He's great like pretending he's gonna fight somebody like like
for for for years, Derek would send me like, Oh
he's fighting Mike Perry, Oh he's fighting whoever it was, Uh,
you know, Tyson Fury's brother, and it would it would
be like a fake post. It wouldn't actually be a fight.
It would be like a fake fight card he made
with fire. Yeah, not that he doesn't really fight. He
does really fight as well, but he would always like

(01:10:46):
kind of, you know again, fake it till you make it,
but like it was his way of trying to like
get in, you know, start a feud with somebody to
see if it got traction. But we've got to let
you go. But catch us up with with uh, you know,
uh baby, life, with with with everything coming with the pregnancy,
housing going, How far along are we what can you
share in that regard?

Speaker 8 (01:11:04):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
And then and then we'll let you go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Oh my god, I was a bunch of questions. I
wasn't knowing all down. But yeah, Olivia is due in
seven weeks. I'm flying back there next week to get
ready for birthtime. So obviously I'm seeing I'm here in
aries right now because we had to come back for
a couple of months after the baby's born.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
What was the other question?

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
What fan how she's doing? Oh, here's a good one.
What's it been like watching back? There's my question? I
figured out. Here's a question. What's it been like watching
all this back? Knowing that future baby is in there
this whole time, Like, are you watching what like when
Michayla's over there saying I'm gonna not like, are you like, well,
thank god she didn't. When you're watching these dropping down

(01:11:54):
from the things and this that whatever, Like, is it
is it harder to watch this knowing she was breaking
the whole time or now that you obviously know everything's okay.
You've obviously been a doctor a million times. Is it
fun watching knowing that you've got an extra baby on
board playing alongside you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Yeah, I mean watching it back now that there was
kind of a point where you know, Olivia was all
you know, she was everywhere in the house, wasn't she
at the beginning like doing this, this and this. I'm
like they relax, and then you know, maybe three or
four week weeks in she just completely comfortable hole and
she was she was in beddle day.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
So watching the back now was because it's because she
was pregnant.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
We get that now, but yeah, you know, watching the
back and seeing her getting friends and stuff now knowing
she was pregnant, I mean it's nothing happened in the end,
so you know, it's not it's not too much.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
To think about.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
But you know, hats off to Olivia in every way
for even you know, competing at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
I can't imagine what was like being pregnant, but she was,
you know, she she was super tired.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
And apparently your first trimester is the most sleepy one,
shall I say?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
So?

Speaker 10 (01:13:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
You know, she She's done great. Hopefully she could go
further in the game as well. Always see how fast
she manages to get well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
We haven't either they either they cut him out or
we we haven't seen her like come down and have
any weird, you know, emotional blow ups. We haven't seen
her barger way into the kitchen and demand someone makes
a pickle cake or something. So hey, from what I've said,
you can't even tell. So congratulations and uh, you know
we're rooting for you guys. And obviously Derek, I mean,

(01:13:32):
what what do you now that you obviously are your
season is over. Theo's the man who did it to you.
Do you then, by transit of property, are you now
rooting for THEO in the game so that you can say, hey,
I lost to the eventual champion. How does that work
for you?

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
D Listen this, this guy has his back against the
wall and has now for a little bit. He he
You know, some people may say that Leroy in America
would be like the ultimate on your Dog story, but like,
to be honest, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
I don't know about that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
In reality, In reality, this guy is probably likely is
a lot of people's target.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
They said their names multiple times. I'm curious to see
how he makes it out of this. If he makes
it out of this, how.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Long, because his probabilities are not that great other than
he's got a great elimination record, he's a great athlete,
and his partner's a fucking boss. So like at this point,
I would be afraid to go into elimination against them,
especially having good luck uh and good good rounds against

(01:14:43):
you know, Team CT and Team Derek. So I'll root
for you guys.

Speaker 10 (01:14:46):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
I am at some point, at some point, me and him, uh,
you know, I felt like we saw eye to eye,
you know, voted the same way and we're on the
same path until we got destroyed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
And the game was designed for that reason, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
And I actually I got one last question for you.
Have all the eliminations you've done, how many have you had.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Over twenty over twenty, over twenty, What was your hardest elimination?

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
Would you say hardest?

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
I mean, so like this, so your heart your hardest opponent,
shall I say? I mean, oh, your best opponent?

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
You were talking about degree of difficulty. Obviously, obviously like.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
In my earlier days, I had to go up against Cyrus.
What do you want me to say? You want me
to say you because because this was the degree of
difficulty for me.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Was sitting on that log, So the second you know,
I would move, I was already fallen off.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
So like, no offense to you. I don't know how much.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
You beat me as much as I fucking it was
so bad at the game.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
It was like for me, it was just a sad
sight because I was so bad at the game. I
think it would have.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Been cooler if we just if if we actually hit
each other multiple times, like if I got you know,
I mean, if we were beating the fuck out of
each other with these pillows on some sort of and
I could and I could balance.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
I think that that would have been cool.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
They made they made them look bigger. It was so skinny.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
It's bigger. It's easier to balance on that. You could
actually get a proper.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Fight out, even even the even the stand up, Like
it would have been a lot cooler for us to
fucking wail on each other while being able to stand
on the beam, right, Like if maybe this team was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
When I first seen that ATYS gonna be flat, and
you could go for it like that, that would have
been that would have been a bad way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
To do it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
That would have been cool.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
And then like if you beat the ship out of
me and I still looked like that, then then yeah,
then you would of just obviously would have beat the
shit out of me. But this was like, I mean, Sidney,
I don't want to give I don't want to give
Sidney any more credit than she gives herself. But like
she said, the second THEO starts blowing in his direction,
he starts going down, I was pretty pretty close. But no,

(01:17:17):
you know, hats off to you, you and Adrian. No,
I've had some I've gotten my ass kicked lots of
times against people that I would say, you know, we
beat the fuck out of each other. I want I
would like to say, I wish we got to beat
the fuck out of each other, and maybe in the
future we'll.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
Be able to beat the fuck out of each other.
But I do like playing with you. I like the
way you play the game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
And hopefully we can put our brains together so we
don't have to face each other ever again there and
actually make a move earlier on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
We should go on the attack rather than sitting on
the defense.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
The only, the only, the only thing I can hang
my hat on is the few nights before where where
we were doing our little wrestling match and I got
to choke you out, So that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
That's all I got. That's all I got. That's all fun.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
So gotting into that, I was worried.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
I'm like, that was tough.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
You know, what they say about him is true. So
your fool was that it's just the violence, wasn't that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
No, I So so here's the here's the story behind
the uh the little wrestling match that we had so
CT like we're fucking hammered, right, We're in like a
like we're a fuzz, right A Nanny and and Anissa
or have not been going at it for like an hour,
and like we're in we're in that CT room, that
middle room, and uh, we're just fucking pulling people in

(01:18:38):
wrestling each other, fucking around and CT walks up, comes
comes up to me and he goes, he has like
a twenty dollars bill in his hand, and he goes,
he goes THEO wants to wrestle you. And I was
like okay, and he goes. He goes, I'll give you
twenty dollars if you wrestle him. And I was like,
how about you keep your money? And I choke him

(01:18:59):
out for free and he was like what.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
I'm like, yeah, fucking go get him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Fucking first barring and he just went on all the
Oh my god, he caught me off gone and fucking
then he killed me.

Speaker 5 (01:19:13):
I was like, fuck, well he comes in, bro, he
comes in into this room, like.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
Dude, he's so tall, like he has to he has
to duck when he walks into rooms to like get in.
So he fucking comes in like god, damn fucking I
am group.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
And security trying to break this up, was like no, no, no,
don't break up.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
And so I got to fucking squeeze on him and
I'm and I'm like, and I got the camera and
I'm like, come here, look.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
You better get this ship. Tap tap tap, and the camera's.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Right there and I fucking got it, Like I was, like,
at the very least they're gonna at least play this
so I don't look like complete ship from this pillow
fight and shut off.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Shut up, all right, Bill, we'll talk to your brother.
Thanks for joining us, and good luck on the rest
of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
All right, I'm fingers cross day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
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