Ep. 495: Zach Nichols Makes His Challenge Mania Debut!

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
What's up, everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
This is Scott Jeger here with another edition of Challenge Mania,
and boy is this a good one. This full Detroit
audio podcast is brought to you by Challenge Mania Live Philadelphia.
That's right, We're coming back to the city of Brotherly Love,
but this time we are doing it big. We are
coming to a new venue, the City Winery, on Sunday,
February first, and we are bringing first time Philly guest

(00:36):
CT Tamborello. That's right. You may know our Baltimore show
on the thirty first of January the night before sold out.
But we're gonna come up the road with the Big
Man with CT Derek, CT and myself are gonna hop
in a car and come up on Sunday and blast
out the City Winery at a six pm show on Sunday,
February first.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Won't just be us.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We have Anissa Ferrera in the house, so we are
gonna add some other guests as well. Tickets go on
sale next Thursday over at Challenge Maniacs dot com for
one of our usual patron pre sales that is November fifth,
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(01:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:33):
When we started Challenge Mania.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:39):
If you do not take part.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
In the presale, good chance you miss out on the
me and greet, and you know, decent chance you miss
out on the show as a whole. It's about a
three hundred person room. We are going to have about
one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty seats that are
GA only where you can go to the show, but
then you gotta leave, and then the rest is VIP
me and greet, But those are likely going to go
maybe during this Savage and Diesel pre sales.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I can't promise it.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
All I know is that the ball More event the
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tickets for February first at City Winery with ct.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Anissa, Derek and myself.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, speaking of live shows, you're about to hear the
full live show from Detroit, October fifth, my fortieth birthday show.
If you will, Zach Nichols for the first time on
a stage for our show, wes Bergman Leroy, Garrett Leo, Nanni,
Tiffany Mark, and my man Xavier pray through in the
house as a surprise. So this was an awesome show.
We hope you enjoy it. It's two hours of fun.

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If this sounds like fomo, go to challenge Mania dot
Live right now because we have tickets available still for
Johnny Bananas in Nashville. Tory Anissa Devin and Moore in Buffalo.
Buffalo is November fifteenth, Nashville is November twenty second. Tickets
are on sale right now and you can yet those
a Challengemania dot live once again. The pre sale for
next Thursday, that is for February first is a challengemaniacs

(03:07):
dot com. But tickets available for those awesome events in
twenty twenty five right now at Challengemania dot live.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
All right, you.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Didn't come for me, you came for d You're not
getting Derek, but you are getting the big d as
in Detroit. So here we are live from District one,
four to two in Detroit District on one.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Of our favorite venues. They were rocking and you're gonna
hear them all now.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
All right, Detroit, are you guys ready for Challenge Media Live?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Thankes, some noise for your hosts, Scott Jagger and the
god Fuck Live.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Let's soup, Welcome to the Joys, my cakes, listen.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
All my thus, double dance the show, some love.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
And whoa what what?

Speaker 6 (04:12):
What? What? What?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
What's up to?

Speaker 7 (04:13):
True?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
De Troy City. I'll do you grace. If you pay,
we go man.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Bet.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
If you can't, we roll. What's up Detroit trick. That's
what's started me.

Speaker 8 (04:24):
They all say trigger click click booms.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
The songs we hit the room, you can hear them.
Mala goose quad in his pitch. Let me hear you
hallow Goose Quad in his pitch.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Let me here you hollow?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
How you guys do a district one going.

Speaker 8 (04:38):
Two mikes ago in the situation?

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Gets a lit stick here? I'm down one more like
a more fucking pop fuck.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Dann Block, brother'm I call that root point from Detroit?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
How you gonna do it down at the front track checks?

Speaker 9 (04:51):
Come to the club? Beat me out?

Speaker 5 (04:53):
How you gunna do it at the bags? Popping song
song because he's trump? How about Detroit last night? In baseball? Baby?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
All right, you can cut the music. Thank you, guys,
Thank you for welcoming us to Detroit.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
We know technically why and not, but you know what
I like to say, why not? All right?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
If you guys can't tell. This is one of the
best places to see live music in the Detroit area.
But it's also literally probably my favorite place to do
this because look at this dope ass sign over here.
They've got a great photographer, Terry. That's gonna be run around.
So Julie and Josh who run this place. They run
a top notch venue. So if you see your favorite comedian,

(05:36):
your favorite band coming through the district one forty two,
come and check them out. So, speaking of favorite bands, Okay,
we've got some of the Ogs of the Challenge band upstairs.

Speaker 10 (05:47):
This is.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
This is actually a.

Speaker 11 (05:51):
True OG Challenge All Stars group up there. Yeah, so
I'm gonna I'm gonna bring you guys a little behind
the curtains. So out of everyone on this list, right,
who do you think when we walked out on this
stage was still not here? Take a guess, that little
fucking youngster Leo. So you know what I said, lock

(06:14):
the door and tell them to fucking walk back to
the hotel. Just kidding, just kidding. We love Leo, right, yeah,
but yeah, yeah, quarter to twelve, he's like, oh, you
guys are leaving.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
I just woke up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So that's that's the new threats, that's what we're dealing
with here. But no, we've got a lot of Michigan's
finest here with us today. We've got some white whales.
You guys know the term white whale, right, We've got
some folks who have not been on our stage ever,
have not been on the podcast ever. Okay, we've got

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some familiar favorites and we haven't had on the stage
in quite some time. You guys fans of mister Leroy Garrett. Yeah,
a hotel, she challenged Barber. He's here, so we recorded
a ninety minute podcast episode with him.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
That's up this week if you want more of Leroy.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
But he's here today making his first official Challenge Mania
Alive stage show appearance.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
So who who who here?

Speaker 8 (07:16):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Kiddy? Coming all the way from Connecticut? She said, So
that's it.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Don't don't get them excited. CET is Connecticut in the map,
ct ct is in the building. But that means she's
from Connecticut. That is not no ct is too busy
fucking shitting on TJ lavin on.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Uh where where did that come from? Right? Yeah, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Talk about that. We're gonna talk about that. Who here
has been to a Challenge Mania Alive before?

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Make some noise? Yeah, baby love that?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Wait?

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Who here is travel from out of the state to come?

Speaker 8 (07:49):
Damn?

Speaker 5 (07:49):
All right?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
You guys are awesome. And by the way, this is
a funny story. So Julie who I think left. Maybe
she's still here. If she's here, she'll think this is funny.
So they have issues at concert venues like this with
with scalpers and secondary market tickets. Right, So usually if
they see a purchase from Connecticut, they void it and
they fucking tell you sorry, no thanks, because they think

(08:10):
you're someone buying a ticket to see you know, Fozzy
or def Leopard or whoever, and trying to sell it
on stub Hub.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Right, And I had to explain it to her.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
No, Julie, we have people who come from fucking Connecticut
to see Challenge Man Live.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Where are you guys from? Philadelphia's in the building? Yes?
What about your city?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Chicago? Chicago? We got shot Town in the building, Pittsburgh
in the building.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Who thinks are the furthest from here? Who thinks are the.

Speaker 9 (08:39):
What do you got?

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Kansas City?

Speaker 9 (08:43):
We got what?

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Indiana? Kentucky? All right?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So guys during the trivia portion, nobody phoned friends over here,
We've got Kentucky and I'm just kidding.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Wait, did I hear Canada? As anybody from Canada? All right?
You guys get an a? You guys get an a forever.

Speaker 12 (09:01):
No.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
So, although although we love you guys who come to
see us more than once. Who here, this is your
first time at a Challenge Mania event. Make some noise.
We love the fact that you are spending And this
is to both the male and female voices, but mainly
the male voices. The fact that you're spending a football
Sunday with us means a lot for those of you

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guys who are here. Later during the meet and greet,
I did make them promise they will put the Lions
game on the TVs. So hey, anybody else got David
Montgomery touchdown minus one eighty today? I gom in on that,
so either way he hit the biggest No, no, we
don't talk about that. No games, I'm gonna do something.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
We don't talk about it. I heed your guys.

Speaker 11 (09:44):
Help right, did anyone watch me beat Johnny Up on
the Food Network?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (09:51):
Now with the round of applause, who thinks I should
be on the Food Network some more?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
All right, just book the show there, just book the
show right there, all of you, all of you will
be in the email box of a Food Network executive
on Monday. True story, You're waking up like, who are
all these people yelling at me?

Speaker 7 (10:14):
No?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
But for those of you, guys, is your first time this.
How we're gonna do this. We're gonna bring out our
guests a few at a time. Okay, they're all gonna
get an entrance, or a couple of them will come
out at once. We're gonna talk to them in groups
of one or two till the whole stage is filled
with challengers. Okay, then we're gonna do just a random
panel discussion. Talk about whatever you want. There might be
a few times that come to you, guys, Hey, what
do you guys want us to talk about? But for
the most part, we'll see where the conversation takes us.

(10:36):
And then for the last thirty minutes or so, I'm
gonna turn it over to you guys. Okay, So we'll
form a line here. We'll try to get to as
many questions as possible. These guys like to ramble, So
the more direct you are with your question and the
more you assign it to like one or two or
three people, the better for all of us.

Speaker 11 (10:54):
Because and we're gonna end the night with the little
magic mic dance from the book.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Total line. That was a lot, That was a lie.
That was a lie.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Maybe maybe there's a chance. I guess we're gonna end
the night with that. Are you guys excited for that?
But no, we do end the show. We give everybody
parting words. We do a nice group post photo. You
guys can post it if you do have GA tickets.
At the end of the show, we're gonna need to
have you take off. But if you have VIP tickets,
feel free to use the restrooms hit the merch hand,
but we do prefer you stay in your seat so
we can get those other folks out of here. We'll

(11:32):
take a little bit of a twenty minute break or so,
and then we'll come out and kick off that meet
and greet for you guys. All right, you guys are
ready to have a good time. Who here has been
watching MTV since nineteen ninety five? Okay, who here saw
this guy's first season of road Rolls in July nineteen
ninety five.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
We just celebrated thirty years of road Rolls.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
So before we bring out all these youngsters, let's one
more time for the godfather, Mark Long and thirty years
of road rules. He wants a post photo of him.
There we go, hey, before we bring him out.

Speaker 11 (12:21):
Yeah, this Tuesday, one of the hardest workers that I know,
one of the guys that keeps the Challenge Mania franchise
on the tracks.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
It's his birthday on Tuesday. Everyone three Happy birthday?

Speaker 1 (12:35):
What two?

Speaker 9 (12:35):
Three?

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Happy birthdays? The Challenge turned forty last year.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I'm turning forty on Tuesday, and trust me, my fortieth
season will be better than that piece of shit season.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yes, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Imagine if I go to eat my cake on Tuesday,
but then right before they're like, actually, Rachel got more karma,
so she gets half of the cake.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Wow. Wow, she's gonna find out about that. No, she's not.
We love Rachel around here.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Imagine if that was the prize, though, Jenny West would
be like, eat all the cake. I don't eat cake.
Do you think I look like this eating cake? Eat
your fucking cake? All right, you guys ready to bring
out the real world Austin icon. All right, we're gonna
welcome him to the stage with a good old fashioned well, well, well, everybody.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Give it up for mister weston Bergman, the man, the.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Myth, the legend. Weston Bergman. Here you go, take whatever
seat you want.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Wes So Wes, I brought you out here first because
we're gonna keep this rock and rolling. But I did
want to give you a chance while it's just three
hundred and three of us, okay, to maybe speak on
any of the people who are gonna come out here
before they get here, any any thoughts, comments, concerns.

Speaker 9 (14:24):
I just thought Leo has arrived.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
Oh look at that.

Speaker 9 (14:28):
I met him waiting in the back. So yeah, he's here.
I've seen him. No, No, I got nothing.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
I got nothing. Listen, Wes doesn't stab in the back.
He's dad's in the chest. So I do want to
ask you this.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
So we were talking with Leroy on the podcast this week,
because do you guys remember when Leroy retired from the Challenge, right,
and so thankfully they changed some things and now LeRoy's
back in our lives and he's done the last four
seasons of the Challenge. Okay, so now, Wes, you famously
retired after the Challenge USA.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Leroy ruined my retirement. Yeah, yeah, Leroy did his thing.

Speaker 9 (15:06):
And then I'm like, okay, guys, I'm out. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
And then everyone was like fuck you see you next season,
don't believe you. And then I had to bet the
internet that I was not coming back, and I thought
that two or three trolls would take me up on it.
I have yet to spend a single dollar on my daughter.
It's all come from the bet. So that was the

(15:31):
week that we birthed her. I made so much money
on that that I have not paid for a single diaper,
a single toy, daycare, the hospital bill, all because people
really thought I was coming back the next season, and
the terms of the vet were so ridiculous I could
I said, I could just take one season off and

(15:51):
come back too later, and they still tens of thousands
of dollars true entrepreneur West.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
So that was not me. I did not mean to
make that much money.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
It was meant to be a joke, and I thought
that they would kind of get it, like, oh, it's like.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, if you want to know why his daughter's driving
around a little Lexus whatever those things are the way?

Speaker 5 (16:11):
What are those things called? Yeah, power wheels, pow power
wheels right.

Speaker 9 (16:17):
Powered by Internet.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
People are confusing. People are confusing.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Your daughter riding through the neighborhood in her power wheel
with Taylor Swift coming home from a brunch with the
Kelsey family. For those of you guys who don't know
people convince people confuse Wes with Travis Kelcey down there.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
It's gotten him into a little bit of trouble.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Yeah, I don't talk about that anymore, guys.

Speaker 11 (16:39):
One of the best funniest story that is so typical Wes.
I was visiting him and his family and they were
living the gorgeous house in the gorgeous development. But he's like, yeah,
Travis kelce lives here, and he goes. So when I
talked to my neighbor the other day, I said, I
wonder how Travis Kelsey feels about being the second most
athletic guy in the house.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
That's west baby.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Real quick, before we bring up our next two guests,
I want to ask, So you've been on this retirement venture.
Correct me if I'm wrong, But since USA two when
you decided to sit out of the show, Obviously you
wouldn't have been on Season thirty nine Battle for a
New Champion.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
That wouldn't have made sense. Been a couple of All
Star seasons.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
There's been the Banner season of forty that I know
is probably tough for you to sit out.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
But now we have this new one. A lot of
people call it fresh meat.

Speaker 13 (17:28):
Four.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Some people call it vets and new threats. Some people say, LEO,
how the fuck are you not awake? It's eleven forty five.
What so far has been the thing that's made you,
you know, second guess, the retirement, the most all of it.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
I'm I have never said that I wanted to like
leave and be for like any sort of bad reasons.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
And so I miss it.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
And I acknowledge that every single time I do my recaps,
partly to scratch the itch.

Speaker 9 (17:51):
I miss all of you, I miss the game. I
miss all of it. It's just the things that I'm.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
You know, I can't sacrifice anymore of.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
And so unless it's House of Villains or traders or
worst cooks.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
It amounts to those are shorter shooting schedules, very they're easier,
they're easier to pop in, and at this point it's
also really fun because the biggest payment, and they pay well.
But the biggest reason to do those is it really
pisses off the challengers that I hate. And so what
I've put it, I've put it, I mean three fourths

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of them, so they're so jealous of me that I
now have just put it out to anyone who makes
television shows.

Speaker 9 (18:38):
I will do it for free.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
Not only am I.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Really good for the part, but I don't even need
to charge you, because how I'm getting rich from this
is just the tears.

Speaker 9 (18:48):
Of my of my of my of my enemies.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
So oddly enough, not even the last person will have
on this stage today that will be representing the Challenge
on the Traders because us. A little bit later, we've
got someone who's gonna be appearing on season four, but
we're not gonna bring her out just yet.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
We're gonna bring out man.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
One of these guys is a true white whale in
every way shape or for him, color included. He has
never been on the podcast. He has never been on
a live show. I've been on his podcast. He's done
many seasons of the Challenge. Okay, the other man we've
had on the podcast several times. We had him on
the podcast this week. But I'm bringing these two guys

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out together because I think, together with Wes and even Mark,
they represent an era of the Challenge that I think
we look back on really finely. And it's gonna be
fun to talk to them ball. Both of them are
Michigan's finest because one of them is from Michigan and
the other one moved here recently. Everybody give it up
for Zack.

Speaker 8 (19:43):
Nichols and Lee right down.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Trunk to you.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
He's just really gets it's my life.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Will be by the niece's only son, Dad Gambo, being
in baby boy, being in hide.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
My mind's out of One more time for Sir Nichols.
One more time. Look at that.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Look at this o G quadrant right here. Lots of
stories within these four. I love the story, love it.
Make some noise one more time, let's hear it.

Speaker 9 (20:40):
I love.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
My man, my man. Yeah, go ahead, Connecticut, thank thanks
for coming. Number one.

Speaker 14 (20:55):
Uh you know, I saw Wes and Nannie on the
fire and I noticed it's right down the road. Scott
texted my My business partner was like, come on, you
can't tell me that Zach doesn't want to be a
part of this one, And of course I lied. It's

(21:17):
like fuck that I don't want to be part of
that at all. Two holes later on the golf course,
I was like, let's fucking do it. So anyways, thank
you for coming. I'm here to represent my home state. Yeah, yeah,

(21:41):
there is no better place than Michigan in the summer.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Give it up for that, Give it up for leroy, everybody.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
This is also my home state as well, so you know,
I really really wish Cam could be here. Actually, Babe,
come on out, gotcha. Cam is actually out of town.
I've been home with the kids. So when he told
me to come, I said absolutely, because if anybody here

(22:16):
that's a parent of tollers, you know how hard it is.
So if it looks like me and Zach end up
falling asleep, is because we don't get this time. I
really appreciate you guys for coming. Robbing Brandon, where are you?
Those are my two best friends right here.

Speaker 14 (22:29):
They are.

Speaker 15 (22:31):
Up.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
There's no way I could have let my peoples come
to Michigan and not meet to them. Stand up, Robbing Brandon,
please stand up there they are there they are. But
thank you guys so much for pulling up like this.
When I rode by, I was like, holy shit, man,
the love. Without you guys, the challenge would not even
be going. So please continue to keep watching season forty
one so they get so they could keep paying me

(22:55):
because they actually do owe me some money. But thank
you guys so.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Much, and Honestly, Leroy is not the only person on
our stage that has a really good excuse for not
being able to be here. Because literally tomorrow, anyone who
was invited and not everybody was, but is flying directly
overseas to do the reunion for season forty.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
One, So so medication directication directly from here.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Some have to fly back to Connecticut to then fly
to New York to then go to because they wouldn't
change his flight because they're like, you're a new threat
on the bunker.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
You're gonna get to change your flight. But either way,
So thank you, Leroy, Thank you Zach.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Wait, so, Lero, you're from Michigan as well, raised Michigan,
you're born to raised, Okay, because I know you guys
just moved here, but for you it's a homecoming.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
How did you talk cam into in depicting the state?

Speaker 7 (23:46):
You know what, I probably I only spoke bad about
Miskian when I left. I hate the weather and all
these different things. I lived in, all these like great places.
But then once I have my babies, it was very
important for me to be home and be closer to
the family. So now the way that I look at
Miscian now it doesn't matter what the weather is outside
of what's going on. To be closer to where my
siblings are family, it's more important than anything. For Cam
it wasn't it wasn't that hard because she loves me.

(24:08):
She's gonna do whatever I want, and I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Not I like that.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
She's gonna So if she decided that she wanted to
move back to Jersey, where her family is, I'm definitely
okay with that. But being here, Michigan has one of
the best summers in the country.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Oh yeah, I don't I.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Don't know about the best winters, but the best but
the best summer.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
But I didn't even realize the summer was gonna still
be going when I bought that Michigan jacket. I tried
to wear it yesterday during the eighty five degree Michigan game.
Zach sit down. I want to ask you because you're
someone who I played the fifth the no but the real,
the real insiders know that you've always been this way.

(24:46):
But for the past few years, you and your man Pierre,
who's here, by the way, I've had the Zach Nichols.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Podcast, give it up for that. Yes, And and I
think people may when you guys started.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Have been surprised to see how interested and passionate you
are about this show, because you again seemingly have and
you know, I hope you take this the right way.
You've come off as someone who doesn't necessarily care as
much as you clearly do.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
He's a whole you know, your word's not mine.

Speaker 14 (25:20):
Well, after I almost died in Thailand, it took me
a little bit to come around and actually realize that
how much I appreciate the show and love the show,
and more than anything, the Blacklist is very comfortable if
anyone else wants to join it. But the best part
about being blacklisted is that you get to be the

(25:40):
number one fan. So I've loved being a fan.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
I'm a fanly really, Scott, you dip your toe. You
got to follow up with that.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, Well, so you mentioned the Blacklist, all right, and
we're not talking about.

Speaker 14 (25:53):
That shows Car and Polly got yeah right, So you're
saying back then, so yeah, so you do you feel
like you're on this sort of unofficial blacklist that we
cannot confirm or deny definitely exists, So you feel like
you're on this?

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Have you ever gotten any official word that you're on
this or does it?

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Is?

Speaker 5 (26:14):
It just silence from them, just silence.

Speaker 14 (26:17):
And I did a couple of Zoom meetings and I
got the look, they look like, you're going to do
this again. Listen, No, it's given. I have no excuse now.
Like Leroy just went into this season had to leave
his daughter and his son, I don't have to do that.
So it's almost been like a blessing. So I don't

(26:37):
know if the blacklist actually exists, but what I do
know is I've had kind of like two careers. Early career,
I did five straight. Later when I did five more straight,
and it's been seven years since I even saw that
number on my phone.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Because I can't even remember what you did to be
I'm not even joking, I literally do.

Speaker 14 (26:55):
It might have been a little bit more behind the scenes, honest.

Speaker 11 (26:58):
So with that said, with that said, we all know, listen,
we all know there might be or may not be
a fictitious whatever. But I think what they probably want
to know is, if you ever got that phone call,
would you dust the under armor shoes off?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Buddy?

Speaker 14 (27:16):
Those Underhummer shoes have been polished and dusted for fucking
five years, So.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
That's a yes, that's a yes.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
All right, well Mark, Mark, why don't you get your
little phone out? We'll do another one of those videos
for get your phone out. Yes, yes, no, we're gonna
ask the crowd get your phone out. Yeah, we're gonna
ask them.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
What.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, we're gonna you can here we go, okay, right
right camera? Yeah, yeah, so here we are in Detroit, Detroit.
Would you guys like to see Zach Nichols back on
the challenge?

Speaker 5 (27:52):
He's right. Would you like to see Leroy win a challenge?
Would you guys like this West shave his beard? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (28:06):
I am on its It is on its last leg.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
I think I have a contractual obligation to keep it
until late November.

Speaker 11 (28:14):
Tell me this though, guys, you've you've seen All Stars, Right,
We're bring people that have been on while bring him back.
And one of the things I think is great about
All Stars is someone that might have quote unquote been
an asshole on other challenges or done this or that.
It brings them a chance to come back and be like, hey,
I'm a new person, I'm matured, I'm a better person.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Zach.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
I think maybe that would be a good avenue for you.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
Well, hey, time out. That's not what Zach did though.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
Like Zach advocated for himself aggressively to the wrong person with.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
A lot of power, he didn't make He didn't make.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
A mistake that would make you guys disappointed, exactly. He
advocated for himself and I guess I'm gonna stop saying anything.
And so it was a he got he got fucked.

Speaker 14 (28:58):
I hired West as an attorney. As you can see, I.

Speaker 11 (29:02):
Feel like if you got on video, we got on
video the good stuff.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
All right.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
So we're gonna bring out our next pair of cast
members to the stage, one of which is totally from
this era, okay, and we are so excited to know
that she is back with and back in the d
and I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Detroit, guys, get your minds out of the gutter.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
But we're very excited to have one of the talking
the og Las Vegas cast members with it, but with
her and please welcome him as well.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Is one of the new threats of the challenge. You
guys excited to see him as well.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
So everybody Detroit makes some noise for Nania zalasiantions that
is not going.

Speaker 16 (29:47):
To stop doing the meat and the ring is bringing
the Beasts and lemon net pot in the carpet sending
I got on the ass on and she's in the band,
and so many people.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Listen.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
I love the money must and we'll talk time for
Nanny Who Nanny?

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Oh God, welcome back, my friends. I am back and
I am back to the can.

Speaker 17 (30:19):
I just say, hey, yo, so's we all.

Speaker 9 (30:25):
Know you weren't gonna be going that long.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
So Nanny's been rocking with us since our There's our
who who?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
There was anybody here at our first ever Chicago show
that had Nanni and West and Tory and nobody here
was there?

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Okay, so this was you're here?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Okay, that was February twenty nineteen, right, and that was
the Nanny.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
We were like, we love that Nan and then but
then right now, what there's been a change. No, I'm
saying no, that Nanny's back. She took she took a.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Few years off. And look and we've we love how
happy you were for a for a portion of that time.
But wait, man, are you back on the challenge full throttle?
You're back on social media and the internet full throttle.
Support your girl. You just came out with a book, right,
keep it up for that. Yeah, so there's something for

(31:19):
everyone year. She has dropped a book and an only fan.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
So no matter what.

Speaker 13 (31:28):
Allegendly allegedly, I'm accepting subscriptions.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Yes, support her, you know what I mean, support her.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
But but so, Nannie, I gotta ask, because you know,
you seem to be having a lot of fun on
this season.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
It was Was it a tough because you went on
obviously All.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Stars and that was kind of awkward because that ended
up airing sort of after your life had changed, so
you're kind of now watching a show where you're still
talking about your kind of previous lives and relationships and things.
Was it an easy or a tough decision to get
right back out there and do season forty one because
you look like you're have maybe won Anissa fight aside,
You look like you're having a good.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Time out there.

Speaker 9 (32:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (32:16):
Honestly, what's funny is that once I got done filming
this season, I was, you know, took my mic off
and I was alone for a second, and like the
first thing that came to my mind was like, oh
my god, I feel like this season brought me back
to life, Like I needed.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
This so much.

Speaker 19 (32:30):
Like I honestly like need it. Yeah, I needed like
the I think four years it was.

Speaker 18 (32:37):
And I did go back to All Stars because I
was like, I wanted to compete again and All Stars
just did not do it for me.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
I couldn't do it.

Speaker 18 (32:44):
It was just it was like Carnival Games. And so
I had that challenge itch. I went back that. I mean,
I wasn't satisfied. So you know, they called me for
forty one. I was like, all right, sign me up.
And it honestly was probably the best thing for me
at the time, and I'm really happy I did it.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Give it up for that. So Leo, give it up
for Leo. Everybody, Leo, what's up?

Speaker 9 (33:08):
Everybody?

Speaker 11 (33:08):
We all and you all know Leo's the youngest of
all of us because he comes in the coolest fucking outs,
you know.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
I mean, we don't do this anymore, and Leroy does,
but this is it.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
I respect it.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
So I when when Leo reached out and he was like,
hey man, I'd love to do that show, I looked
at the lineup and I go, you know, we could
use a new threat on this lineup. You guys, I
feel like we're gonna be indirectly talking about the season
and it would, you know, almost be unfair to not
have one of you guys present but make some noise
if you guys have or throw some beer.

Speaker 9 (33:40):
And he's been talking mad Ship.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
All that's.

Speaker 9 (33:45):
Now, it's all of us. It's just me.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's just me.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, it works out that we have who I would
say is probably among if not the most outspoken member
of the New Threat gang on stage host.

Speaker 8 (33:57):
I would like to apologize by the standing on this.
There was an episode where.

Speaker 17 (34:05):
I'm in the we're in the deliberation and I don't
know why Leroy didn't like smack me in the mouth brow.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
I was talking for like probably an hour about random
I was like, and fuck them kids and all this,
and I'm like I watched it back. My mom was like,
why didn't they tell you to shut the fuck up?
Like I was like, I would have told me to
do the same thing. Actually I actually did. When we
were going to deliberate, keep your short, said Leo.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
Half the stuff you say on camera they can't use
because every word was like fuck.

Speaker 14 (34:30):
This, And I was like fuck.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
They played music over it and they just fast forwarded it.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
It was like a montage of random Ship. I was like, yeah,
never again, Bro, never again.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
But no, you guys, look, you guys came to play.
You're clearly not intimidated by this gang. Does that come
from a place of just utter ego? Or are you like,
how familiar familiar were you with say a Lee Roy
or say a CT or a Johnny Bananas or a
Terror these people you're playing alongside. Did you were you
a Challenge fan growing up? Have you caught up on

(35:04):
the show? How much did you know about who you
were going in the show?

Speaker 17 (35:07):
So I heard a lot about CT because I'm from
the northeast, right, so everybody would talk about him when
I go to bost just.

Speaker 9 (35:13):
From the cops and ship yeah, man said, yeah, yeah, he's.

Speaker 8 (35:19):
Wanted right now.

Speaker 17 (35:20):
But no, So I grew up and I used to
see it every now and then, but I wasn't like
an avid fan. But when I got on the bus,
we're just a new Threat bus. They're like, oh my god,
like that's all the vets.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
I'm like, why are you glazing them?

Speaker 17 (35:31):
Like we're about to compete against them, bro, and we
have to beat their ass or we're gonna get sent home.
So I went in with that mindset, But then I
met dudes like Leroy, and Leroy is the funniest man I've.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
Ever met in my life.

Speaker 17 (35:42):
Yeah, you know, there's some shit they don't even air,
but there is nice and Nani knows. We'd just be
freestyling in the house and Lero would say shit. I
couldn't even fathom. I was like, Yo, this eminem from.

Speaker 8 (35:54):
Me, my own brother. What the fuck?

Speaker 19 (35:55):
Can I say something really fast?

Speaker 18 (35:57):
What's funny is is like he was thinking that, but
I was thinking, oh my god, this is Leroy Junior.

Speaker 19 (36:05):
When he was twenty five and we were on there
are so much right?

Speaker 5 (36:09):
What was your first impression of Leo?

Speaker 7 (36:13):
The first the first time I actually had a good
conversation with him is when he was saving my life
when I was drowning.

Speaker 12 (36:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (36:17):
Yeah, I actually saved him from drowning. Brou but uh.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
I got a chance to normally will he plays baseball.
He comes from a nice two parent household, a really
intelligent kid, loves women, loves women where my lady's at.
But uh, athletic as hell. So in my mind, I'm like, fuck, man,
I'm cooked. Like once I started seeing him compete, I'm
like I was. I would see the threats and say, man,

(36:42):
they can't do that because I was projecting what I
can't do, and this motherfucker showed up even when it
came to swimming, because he looks just like me, right
skin to own, and he could do everything.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
So it was really refreshing to pay with him.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
And I like the fact that he was outspoken, because
you don't where rookies come. A lot of times they're
quiet and try to hang out to the back and
then we pick you up. But he he wasn't having it.
He spoke his mind every time.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
I respect it.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Thank you, Zach.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
So I want to know, you know, as a as
a fellow podcaster, where look, we're watching these seasons, whether
they're good or not, right, do you prefer watching a
season like this and covering a season like this is
loaded with newbies, which obviously gives you a lot of
new people to have on your show things like that,
or do you like an All stars where you're you
personally have more of a familiarity with some of the
people in their past and whatnot.

Speaker 14 (37:29):
The short answer that question, Scott is I really don't care.
As long as there's a couple of my friends on there,
I'm good with it. You know, okay, this season. I
was really happy, obviously when I saw Nanni and Leroy
on there, because like they could do no wrong, Like
Nanni and Leroc could light the house on fire and
be like the house deserved it, you know, like I was.

(37:52):
I had a CT podcast. Karl and I were talking
about CT a couple of weeks ago, and in the
middle of the podcast, I was like, I actually can't
comment on this because I'm actually a fucking hypocrite. So
I do like seeing some some fresh.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Blood on there.

Speaker 14 (38:08):
Not only all of them, but I've had Leo in
my studio and I think Leo is gonna be here
for a long time.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
What are you thinking about?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Had a boy so Leo included, But it's Leo, It's Sydney.
You know, there's a few of them, you know, d
even What do you think about and this ghost for
all you guys will start with Zach, a rookie crop
that clearly has come in with a chip on their shoulder.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
No, like like, well, what's the word you use?

Speaker 8 (38:36):
Glazing?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
They don't glaze.

Speaker 8 (38:39):
No glazing glazing on the show.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
These people, they're not good.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
What do you think about? How brash this rookie class
has been. They're great podcast guests, but as somebody who's like,
do you feel like you need to pay your dues
before you could chirp at the extent that Leo has chirped,
I do think to.

Speaker 14 (38:57):
A certain extent you should earn your But there's also
the aspect of if I was a new threat, and
Wes can attest to this, I came in hot on
my first season, so.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
So hot they're not even allowed to tell the Zach
story of the hottest one.

Speaker 9 (39:11):
He's put me on strict I'm not allowed to tell it.

Speaker 14 (39:14):
So that's why I said I was a hypocrite, because like,
I'm here like defending my friends. But then I'm like,
but wait a second, when I was in their shoes,
I came in the exact same way.

Speaker 9 (39:24):
So it's way worse than Leo, so so much wetter.

Speaker 14 (39:31):
So there's at the same time that I'm a hypocrite,
there's like a massive amount of respect because if they
came in and just lay down, what fun would that
be for us to watch?

Speaker 7 (39:40):
You know?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, before we bring on our next two guests, I
want to ask you guys about some drama that's been
going on social media this week.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Between.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
We mentioned it before, CT and TJ, so maybe the foremost,
maybe the foremost iconic letters when it comes to the challenge,
CT and TJ. If you would have give me a
hundred guesses who's gonna be beefing on social media week,
I would not have guessed it was gonna be CT
and TJ.

Speaker 8 (40:03):
Lavin.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
For those of you guys who aren't caught up, TJ
did an interview where he said he assumes that CT
also cheated during the eating challenge. CT probably gave him
the idea if other people were cheating. CT savvy enough,
he probably cheated as well.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
Yeah, Yeah, I was next.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
You guys were there.

Speaker 17 (40:23):
I was right next to CT, like I'm eating to
the leftist game and to the right of CT.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
He ate every job, I t J dumbest fuck for
C agrees with you. C. T does not think he
cheated either, and you gotta remember he did not cheat.

Speaker 8 (40:39):
Bro'll put my life from that.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
It doesn't matter CT likes to eat, period. It's not
like if he's gonna cheat on anything.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
It ain't that CT got offended by this and he
started hitting on TJ, getting getting pretty getting pretty personal.
I won't paraphrase but you guys can go find the
clips and whatever it is. The caption went so like
something he alluded to is like, you know what, you
got your job?

Speaker 5 (41:05):
You know, don't don't get me stunned, and how you
got your job DJ. And I think there was the
thing where he called I think he called him Joe Biden.
At one point I didn't even really understand.

Speaker 8 (41:18):
And then I thought about it and I was like, Okay,
now I get it.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
But uh but long story short, I gotta ask you guys,
is going for TJ off limits?

Speaker 5 (41:27):
This is like the first I've seen it.

Speaker 14 (41:29):
Zach, listen, if you can take down t O, you
can take down to.

Speaker 12 (41:35):
Tell.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, another two iconic letters in the NFL, not in
the challenge because he got him through seventy million dollars.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
Okay, what about you?

Speaker 9 (41:44):
I wrote that line.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
You wrote it for him.

Speaker 9 (41:46):
I wrote that rap, as they would say.

Speaker 14 (41:48):
The best part about that was I was like this
whole time, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (41:54):
I don't think that.

Speaker 20 (41:55):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (41:55):
I didn't see cet because he was up the other end.
There's one person I know who did cheat. I cheated
for sure.

Speaker 8 (42:01):
You didn't, Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
I mean there was a time when when when we
were in partners of double ages, when we started throwing
cause we had to eat a rams testicle. So as
Johnny said, I say, you're you're not cheating if you're
not trying or something like that. No, but that's true though,
so my and my mental when I got there and
I see them big ass onions, he said, there's no
fucking way I'm eating this right. So so not only
they could say okay that the child's can say okay,

(42:25):
you guys cheated. You know how many times of challenges
don't cheatd us. Everybody up here has had a time
where they don't cheated us. So I definitely threw my
onion off the fucking mountain, off the fucking mountain.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Quickly, quickly.

Speaker 15 (42:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (42:50):
And but but when it comes when it comes to
t J, I'm not going to code sign now I did.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
I don't give the fun but my my question. Ever,
it showed the video like everyone was like like there,
no one's gonna see.

Speaker 11 (43:03):
It's like I would have left with like it was
getting my pants, and I mean, like, why did.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
You be so body?

Speaker 9 (43:08):
And I knew.

Speaker 19 (43:09):
I knew the second that THEO ran off.

Speaker 18 (43:12):
First I was like there, and then he turned around
and the smile that he gave all of us was
a smile of like you.

Speaker 19 (43:17):
Stupid motherfuckers, like I'm getting up this mountain and yeah.

Speaker 18 (43:21):
So the second I think the second I saw a THEO,
I was like, oh yeah, and then everyone started taking off.

Speaker 19 (43:26):
I was like, oh yeah, everyone's cheating.

Speaker 8 (43:27):
But the issue was there wasn't enough cameras to watch everybody.

Speaker 17 (43:30):
So we're all eating right. There's probably like maybe two
cameras that got one on Leroy, one on me, but
he could be also we're out of here, like.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
So do you guys, just like any time you leave
a CVS you're like, not enough cameras. I'm taking this
like it was back in the day I was raised. So, Zach, Zach,
you had a post because and it reminded me of this,
and this is actually I've watched this two or three
times recently on the elliptical. For those of you guys
that are under there's a challenge channel on Pluto TV
that just reruns challenges over and over again, and but

(44:01):
they don't run anything like before season fourteen. They don't
really run anything after season thirty four, so it's a
lot of like Zach and Trey, right, there's like a
like one out of every three times I'm on there,
it's like, and you guys famously like crushing elimination but
lost because of retroactive TJ coming out and saying you cheated, you.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Broke something you shouldn't have broken, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So so when you saw the entire cast cheat other
than CT allegedly, did it hit you a little different?

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Like, hey, rules don't.

Speaker 14 (44:28):
Matter all of a sudden, what Well, watching them cheat
wasn't the issue. The issue was TJ's like, you know what,
let's just scrap it because, like I said.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
After saying, the only thing I hate more than quitters
is cheaters.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
Wait, wait, what does doing people cheat?

Speaker 19 (44:42):
What?

Speaker 14 (44:42):
I cheated an elimination round against Leroy and what do
you do? I got sent home?

Speaker 8 (44:46):
So god, has there ever been a cheating Jill?

Speaker 5 (44:49):
I sent home?

Speaker 14 (44:50):
Though I know before I got sent home, I threw
my helmet at all the other challenges.

Speaker 8 (44:53):
On the bridge.

Speaker 9 (44:55):
It was a dark I've never seen a fly that fast.

Speaker 14 (45:00):
Face the fact that I didn't get signed by the
Jets at least, like, come on.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
You got off easy. We haven't seen Trey since.

Speaker 14 (45:09):
I apologize yearly for that. I'm like, hey man, I'm
really sorry for end of your train.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
They were like, who do we punish? We can't punish
the big guy. He sleeps with too many women on
the show. What can we do about the other white guy?

Speaker 9 (45:20):
Can we?

Speaker 14 (45:22):
You are so lucky that Jenna and her father are
not here right now. You'd be fighting bro dead man
walking right now.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
They were like, can we just cancel the Trey guy?
Well he didn't even really do it?

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, but we someone there's gotta be blood, Someone's got
to pay for this trays But no, we love training.
Trey comes to every show we do in Baltimore, takes
down a lady every time. But what I'll say is
that Trey is clearly trade does no, Trade does too little?

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Did they know what could have been if they had
left Trey on the show.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
He'd have more kids than all of us come on,
Which is saying something because two me like that, Scott Zero,
I want to know.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Wes Wes to you.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Did you feel like TJ as a target was off
limits for this kind of thing because you you so
infrequently see anyone. But it's clearly no one of ct
stature coming after TJ like he just did.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
It is weird because TJ does such a good job
of staying out of it his personality and his job.
And that said, he did make a mistake and and CT,
you were not going to see TJ on a podcast
for five years.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
And by the way, I don't even know who that
guy was. He was talking to like what.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
You know, us to that guy for ruining interview access
for all of us for the next five years.

Speaker 8 (46:43):
But one guy, I mean, I could.

Speaker 21 (46:45):
See what I mean.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
Listen, sure CT is in a in a period where
he's catching more strays than he ever has. He's probably
caught more negative comments in the last three months than
in the last.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Twentyelve year club.

Speaker 9 (46:58):
He's not he's not used to it.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
And then to see TJ kind of pile on and
kind of add some gas to the fire, I think
he's just he kind of got caught up in it.
And he's in his social media era, which is a
lot better than his me.

Speaker 9 (47:09):
Era, So you know, he's trying. He's trying.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
So we're gonna bring out our final two guests. Both
of these folks have appeared on The Challenge USA, but
they're both Big Brother legends as well, and I may
have alluded to it earlier.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
One of them might be on the next season of
The Traders.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Everybody give it up for some of Michigan's finest, the
area's finest.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
The cookout.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I just made my own cookout and invited them. Give
it up for Tiffany, Mitchell and Xavier. Still it's still
delivered to the I'm not.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Give it up for Tiffany. Damn is gonna do it again.

Speaker 9 (48:02):
Yeah, that's a good walkout Tiffany's walkout music. Yeah, I
guess yeah, Yeah, he kind of stole the walkout music.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I get it, But like anyone, I would love to
come out to that song. I almost want Xavier to
come out with me everywhere I go, so we get
his ex Cone, get it to it it Scott to
give it up for these two. Everybody, it looks so
good your little outfit.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Love it love Look at Tiffany.

Speaker 9 (48:35):
It's a big outfit, not the little one.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Yeah, x looking sharp all black, appreciate you appreciate Oh
looking like he just dropped an R and B single.
Then hey, now, Mark, you can't get out of your
own way.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Examvierer one big Brother by the way, give it up
for that.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
A lot of people think it was because of Tiffany, though,
give it.

Speaker 7 (49:05):
Up for that.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Give he doesn't like when you say that.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
So no, But so that was actually, oddly enough, the
last Big Brother season. I say it's the last time
I ever interned for Big Brother, because I was a
Big Brothers three times a week, five hours a day.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
It's like an internship.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
But that was the last season I watched, and I'm
glad I did because so many of you guys went
on to do the Challenge. Kyland of course, has become
a Challenge mainstay. You guys both appeared on Challenge USA.
And what I loved about that season was, to me,
it was the most successful alliance and execution of an
alliance we've ever seen.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
It was, of course called the Cookouts, right, give it
up for that. So settle a bet. Whose idea really
was the Cookouts?

Speaker 6 (49:51):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Tiff Oh?

Speaker 9 (49:53):
It was yours?

Speaker 15 (49:55):
It was your your planet?

Speaker 9 (49:57):
I named it.

Speaker 22 (49:58):
You had to plan in Big He wants credit for
getting us all together, right, yeah, he.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
Text me he told me to represent him. I'm his
I'm here his lawyer on the stage.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Take you over either of us any day, so it
was he Tiffany.

Speaker 23 (50:18):
I mean, we kind of all decided like we're just
not gonna target each other. And then I was like,
how are we gonna get to the end though? And
they were like, we're just not gonna target each other.
We got to get everybody else out. And I'm like, yeah,
that's great, it's a great idea, but what's the strategy?

Speaker 5 (50:34):
What's the plan?

Speaker 23 (50:35):
So I had to get my little chessboard together and
figure out how the fuck do we do this?

Speaker 8 (50:40):
And I took it to each one of them and
they were like, yeah. I was a little worried about him.

Speaker 22 (50:44):
Though, I had to think about it. I was, hold up,
we so you the rook and I'm the pawn. Like
I was like, how we moving all these pieces each week?

Speaker 9 (50:55):
Which we're just gonna be there.

Speaker 19 (50:56):
You gonna be there, don't worry about it.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
You're gonna be there. I didn't know that I wasn't
going to be there. So let me ask you guys.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
You guys are obviously Big Brother legends, but you've appeared
on the Challenge okay, but we haven't seen the Challenge USA.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Since are you? Are you guys like upset? Are you guys?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
You know, is there any regret that, like, for instance,
the calls don't come to you guys like they come
to Kailand and that you guys. No, no, no, I
want to know because opportunity, because I would personally love
to see you both on the Flagship Challenge.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I know we're going to see you in the Scottish
Mansion sometimes. Oh yeah, Tip, that's in the can right,
that's where Ivy last. Okay. But yeah, Xavier, So to
all the Xavier fans here, well, of course give it
to you.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Are you like any fomo of not being able to
do a challenge on MTV or with these guys?

Speaker 22 (51:58):
I said, out of the shows that I've done, I'd
like to do like one and done. The only show
that I feel like I would go back and do
again is the Challenge.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Yeah, and that's coming from a lawyer.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Yes, it's not why the challenge you.

Speaker 22 (52:12):
Was say one was cool. I'm gonna leave it at that, okay,
But like, I feel like I didn't really get a
chance to show what I can do, so I would
like that either mis facts and that's probably my fault,
but we can't talk about that.

Speaker 9 (52:28):
But yeah, I would like to go what was your fault.
It was jealousy. What you got You got fucked because
of jealousy. Can we turn Wes. I'm defending you.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Like I'm defending it is.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
It's just classic, like you win a show and then
you get bullied for several years until people forget you
win a show, you get bullied for several years.

Speaker 9 (52:50):
You would come off that win you had made a
lot of people look silly. Yeah, you took all the
money and then they were jealoy.

Speaker 8 (52:57):
I wasn't jealous, they were.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
Jealous.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Yeah, yeah, Tiffany, have you been uh, there's a difference.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Have you been watching season forty one at all? Are
you aware of how good your girl Michayla has.

Speaker 14 (53:22):
Done this season.

Speaker 8 (53:23):
I don't gotta watch ship.

Speaker 14 (53:24):
Didn't know that Michayla is good.

Speaker 23 (53:26):
I always know Michayla is good. But yeah, I know
Michayla Miayla.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
So she's been crushing it on the show, crushing it
in the interviews. But she is a fairly polarizing figure
among the other cast members. I don't know if you've seen,
but other cast members have varying opinions of her. Obviously,
you know, so what do you think about that? Is
that is that a sign of her, you know, playing
a bigger game than she's played in the past.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Is it jealousy? Do you have any idea what's causing this?

Speaker 23 (53:50):
So Mickayla is very smart, she's an intellectual, she's strong,
she's she's confident, she she commands respect, and she stands
on the ship that she says.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
She can back it up.

Speaker 23 (54:05):
So Mikayla is not about bullshit and she does not
rock with you. If you are not with her, then
you will know that. And I just like a person
who is authentically themselves and not only does she talk it,
but she can back it up like.

Speaker 8 (54:21):
She will She'll put you on your back.

Speaker 23 (54:24):
So the problem with Michayla is when you can't control
somebody that is frustrating for you.

Speaker 19 (54:31):
You just can't do that to her.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
Okay, all right, Lea, I want to get your thoughts. Okay,
so not just specifically, McKay that's what you say, no no,
and feel free.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Feel I feel like we've gotten a lot of your
words and a lot of the New Threats have been
very loose with their lips when it comes to the
cts or the Derek's or the vets that didn't necessarily
come to play, but.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
I love to get your thoughts on the Michaela's and
the Olybyas.

Speaker 8 (55:02):
And the ones. You from Connecticut.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
I'm from Detroit. So what you mean to say was
you went to pimpbroke. That's a private school.

Speaker 8 (55:15):
My fault ain't my mother. Yeah, listen, I love Michayla Clarence.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
It's a night. That's a good place to see.

Speaker 9 (55:24):
That's like good, I love.

Speaker 8 (55:29):
I'll I'll tell you why I love Michaela.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Bro Look.

Speaker 17 (55:32):
One of the first vets I was talking all my
ship too was Michaela. But not about her, but to
her like venting and she's like, Yo, you're smart as hell,
but you about to be dumb as fuck if you
do it this or that's like, you know what, You're right,
But I was. She was the one person in the
house I could go to just for like mental clarity
on the words I was gonna choose to say right.
So she she like kept me grounded. So I felt

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like my older sister. I was like, you know what,
like she's just looking out.

Speaker 9 (55:54):
But I knew she could.

Speaker 8 (55:55):
I could like trust her because it wouldn't benefit her.
She just want to help me.

Speaker 17 (56:00):
So I was like, you know, I have to respect that,
Like that's like a big sister move. But she could
compete like a motherfucker. Like she could talk it, but
she could walk it the same way. So I'm like, damn.

Speaker 8 (56:09):
Like people are like, oh, Mikayla this, I'm like, should
your pitch ass something?

Speaker 6 (56:12):
Like?

Speaker 17 (56:12):
She just went back to back, you know, Like I
don't know, I don't know what you guys are tripping about.
So I'm like, I think she's truly like top dog.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Okay, I fuck with it.

Speaker 8 (56:21):
Come out Connecticut, Nanni.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
I like it, Nanni.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
First question, what are we gonna do to get you
to come on the Challenge Mania podcast and really do
that full dd You said you've been thinking about it, right,
I've been trying to woo Nanni into a Skype chair for.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Yeah, but what are we gonna do? You guys want
to hear on the podcast with me and Derek. Get that,
get that full deep time all the way back to
Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Okay, let her hear forevery how about this if ten
of you subscribe to her only fans today and in
the in the is there.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Like a place in the comments and say bow bow.

Speaker 19 (57:01):
Maw one day, one day.

Speaker 18 (57:03):
Honestly, if I do a podcast, it will be yours,
because you've been asking for about fifteen years.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Yes, it's been a minute since before podcast existed. I said,
if they're one day is breaks to speak, let me
make sure the megaphone is on. What would you say?
It's gonna be type that down.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
But no, Nanni, since we have not had the luxury
of having you on, I'd love to get your thoughts
on the season so far. So obviously, like we said,
you look like you're having a lot of fun out there.
There's been some disputes, there was a big one this week,
but talk about obviously some of the new threats, talk
about rekindling relationships with the a Nieces and the Ashleys
and the LeRoy's and people that you know for quite
some time.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
How has this season been for you competitively?

Speaker 18 (57:41):
Honestly, this season, like I said, I mean, I left
just feeling very happy that I did it. I had
a really good alliance that rocked with me and my god,
we were so solid. I don't know if you guys
have seen it or what they've shown, but my alliance
was so fucking solid. I was so honored and so

(58:01):
proud of the girls that I chose to work with.
I don't care what they show on TV, but the
girls in my room, I mean, my god, we we
the odds were against us at the beginning, and we
figured it out and we came together and we did
the damn thing.

Speaker 19 (58:13):
So I am I am, like, I'm happy about that,
you know, Like I said, I went in.

Speaker 18 (58:19):
I was first season back in a while, and I
had a really good alliance, a really strong alliance.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
And Anissa was never part of this alliance, or she
was at first, or you thought she was because she
was in the room walk us through.

Speaker 18 (58:31):
That sure, So at the beginning, it was all of us,
and yes, Anissa is in the room, so it's me, Anissa,
Ashley of even Mikayla. And at the beginning of the season, again,
I don't know what I'm clearly haven't been doing my homework, guys, but.

Speaker 19 (58:45):
I don't know what they showed.

Speaker 18 (58:46):
But at the beginning of the season, like the first
two weeks, we had game talk with Anissa all the time.

Speaker 19 (58:51):
She's in our room.

Speaker 18 (58:52):
It's kind of hard not to, so she would be
around and then those conversations would get back to the downstairs.

Speaker 19 (58:58):
So we said, you know, more game talk with Anissa.
That's fine, we can room with her, fine, But like
we at the end of the day, like we.

Speaker 18 (59:06):
Know we can't talk a game with her, which is fine.
She was on the other side and it got awkward.
It was really awkward sometimes, especially when it got towards
the end. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I will say when
it when it comes to halfway through the season. I mean,
my god, numbers matter the most, and I think it
got to a point where, you know, everybody wanted to

(59:27):
say Anissa's name because we needed numbers. We knew she
wasn't with us, and the entire time I was the
only person that made sure nobody ever said her name.

Speaker 19 (59:36):
So I don't know whatever Aready's saying on social media,
but just.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Know, Yeah, so all you guys on stage have been
a part of a sort of blow up fight like
we saw this week. But I'll start with you ninety
because it's fresh. Like, what's it like rewatching something like that?
Do you do with one eye open? Are you kind
of like what's it like? Obviously you have to watch
it or maybe you don't, but like, what's it like
reliving that fight that you guys had this week.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
We didn't watch that episode.

Speaker 18 (59:59):
I think it's frustrating because they don't show what led
up to me freaking the fuck out the way that
I did. Like, I mean, if you guys have watched
me for a while, you know that I don't just
freak out like that for no reason. It takes a
lot to really get me riled up. And it was
an entire week of this NonStop just like, oh, why
are you friends with Ashley? Like, and I'm like, that

(01:00:21):
has nothing to do with me, Like, I'm sorry for
what happened. I told her she was wrong, but at
the end of the day, like, that's not my responsibility.
Like we're all adults here, and you are a grown woman.
You can handle yourself. I mean, that's really what it
came down to.

Speaker 19 (01:00:34):
So I just got sick.

Speaker 18 (01:00:36):
I just got sick of the whole victim mentality bullshit
when we had been saving a roll season if I'm
being completely honest, and I got and I just got
sick of hearing it.

Speaker 19 (01:00:43):
I got sick of listening to the cry baby bullshit,
and I freaked out. I'm human. You guys have seen
me for years now, that's not like.

Speaker 17 (01:00:50):
Not like me, yo, the backup Nani's point, Like Nan,
he's dead right right, because that's some victim shit at
the finest right there, Like yeah, like, what are we
supposed to ostracize one person in the house because of
your issues?

Speaker 18 (01:01:01):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:01:01):
She got nothing to do with us. So when she's like,
why aren't you backing me up? What the fuck is
she supposed to do?

Speaker 19 (01:01:06):
And I'm sorry she said this like no, like bro,
And let me be clear when I say too. Yes,
I've done many seasons with Anissa.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
We're very cool.

Speaker 18 (01:01:14):
We're you know, I know her, We're cool. We all
love Anisa. Okay, we love Anisa, that's not the issue.
Playing a game with her can be difficult. And going
into the season, you know, she for some reason, I
don't know why she cared so much about me and Ashley,
but like Ashley and I had just done All Stars together,
Ashley and I were working well, she wasn't there long,
but we had we had both taken time off and

(01:01:36):
we were both back and we kind of bonded over that,
and that's really how it started. So going into forty one,
I had spoke to I had talked to Ashley more
than I ever talked to Anissa, so I was so
much like it. Just there's so much that they don't show,
and it's frustrating. I think now, to answer your question again,
I think that's what's frustrating to watch it and to
just see that people can like I see what everybody

(01:01:58):
else sees, but it's not accurate.

Speaker 19 (01:02:00):
It's not like the edited version.

Speaker 18 (01:02:02):
That's why I can't watch it because it stresses me out.

Speaker 19 (01:02:04):
Like I just can't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Wees.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Let me ask you this because I know you're breaking
down these episodes like I am, like zach Is and
like it can be confusing, and it can also be
sometimes frustrating when there's this big blow up fight and
then you find out, whether it's through podcasts or whether
it's through the Internet, that we're not seeing the whole fight, right.
So we're seeing the like totality of it, we're seeing
how mad people are getting, but they're removing certain things

(01:02:27):
from the narrative of the fight. Now, clearly the things
they're removing aren't bad enough to get these people removed
from the show. It's just kind of an editorial license here.
You come from the days where they showed absolutely everything,
and you didn't even, you know, realize what you said
or did was awful till ten years later when America
decided it was bad. But my question to you is
do you find it frustrating to have to piecemeal all

(01:02:47):
these arguments together? And why do you think they remove
key elements to an argument if it's not a fire
uple offense.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
I got the impression that both sides probably said stuff
that was irrelevant to the game, probably crossed the line,
made them the show, everybody look bad.

Speaker 9 (01:03:03):
No one was gonna win in the situation. I think
it's probably a good thing.

Speaker 6 (01:03:06):
I think that what was left in kind of helped
us learn the story of and I back Ashley and Nanni,
not just because she's here, but because I've been on
that end of Anissa as well. She's just kind of
everybody's friend, the victim mentality stuff, and she I have
love for Anissa.

Speaker 9 (01:03:23):
She is my friend.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Doesn't sound like it, but no, I mean, if I
if I ever, if I ever do a game again,
like I mean, I'm gonna vote for her, right right,
Like what if I was a girl, I'd be begging
to keep her in.

Speaker 9 (01:03:38):
But as a guy, she's a liability from.

Speaker 18 (01:03:41):
Votes and such, so she she's a liability for everybody
when it comes to vote, it's not just like guys.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Damn.

Speaker 9 (01:03:51):
Well, I guess I'm voting for Leroy too.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Well that's interesting. So okay, so you mentioned that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
So the last season that you guys did together was
Double Agents, correct, Yes, And that was the last season
we saw Leroy on before his little retirement there. But
that was a season where I believe Leroy was coming
for you hot and heavy early in the season. Right,
So this is your first time, I believe being with
Leroy since then, how are.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
You guys doing? What's it like sing?

Speaker 8 (01:04:18):
Sounds like?

Speaker 9 (01:04:19):
Sounds like Mari bring him out? Okay, let me let
me say this that there's that some that sums up.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Leroy in like a really good story. I got a
completely out of the blue phone call about a month
or two after we had gotten done filming, and it
was Leroy with one of the most bonafide apologies that
I had ever gotten in my entire life, apologies that

(01:04:50):
I've ever gotten in my entire life.

Speaker 9 (01:04:52):
It was incredibly sweet, it was incredibly meaningful.

Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
I dropped everything to that right right then and there,
because that takes a that takes a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:05:00):
Of courage and accountability and it meant.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
A lot to me, And so yeah, it was it
sucked to kind of have him come after me the
way that he did, but you know, to own that
the way that he did as an adult and the friends,
it was a was a big deal.

Speaker 8 (01:05:14):
So ay, Wes, look at that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
What'd you forget that?

Speaker 7 (01:05:20):
I thought I was gonna have my I thought I
was gonna have that my friend step up, Like, wait
a minute, what is he about to say?

Speaker 8 (01:05:26):
You in my hometown?

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
No, you know what Detroit when I and I did
apologize to him because I felt like what I did
was wrong. But in the time, in the middle of
the game, I thought Wes is playing me, And so
anytime I talked to West, I think he's playing me.
You know, everything turns into like business talk, big words.
I gotta check with somebody, like what do he mean
by that? But yeah, I actually felt bad about it,

(01:05:49):
like I'm not I'm not a dirty player, I'm not
a malicious player. And I remember having a conversation with
him saying.

Speaker 15 (01:05:53):
That like he was good.

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
Then boom, I heard through the grape found and he
was kind of doing whatever. And before I even check
with him. I'm like, yo, you going in and then
I could see how hurt he was and behind it,
I was like, damn, Like he must have really been
like been telling the truth. And I mean this is
when he just called me, like less than a month ago,
was like, hey, Lee, right, this is Wes. I'm coming
to the train, and I'm like, what the fuck? Like Wes,

(01:06:14):
he said, I remember, I know, I remember texting him
when his dog passed away. I text him his dog
passed away. He didn't respond to me, and I'm like, damn,
he must still be mad about whatever. And so to
hear you say that, I did apologize and it wasn't
it wasn't nothing personal.

Speaker 9 (01:06:28):
But in the game, Wes.

Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
In the game, this was Wes does Wes is having
a conversation with like fifty different people. So if I
feel like I see you on my side and you're
talking to like my enemy and the other room like no,
you're trying to.

Speaker 9 (01:06:37):
Play me, bro.

Speaker 7 (01:06:38):
So it was just I think, just the emotions of
the game and that happened. And to this day, I
am sorry by to thank you for accepting my apology,
and you should have it because I have people.

Speaker 6 (01:06:47):
Here just so you know, I didn't have to give
him a shout out, but I brought more people than you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Roll it up.

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
We ain't worried and set it up, guys, set it up.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
That's clear.

Speaker 8 (01:07:01):
What all right?

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
We are going to go to the audience, but not
for fish to cuffs. We're gonna do our Q and A.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
So if you have a question, I want you guys
to come around here and just line up by the
side of the stage right here. We'll try to get
as many as we can. Try to direct it towards
a couple of people, or if you have it for
the whole panel, that's fine too. Got some stickers here
to give you if you ask a question.

Speaker 8 (01:07:27):
Hello to see you all.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Right, Yeah, she's mentioning.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
TJ did apologize to CT since guys, the world's horrible again.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
TJ apologize to CT.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
Everyone sleep well tonight, sleep well?

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
What's your name? Where you're from? And what's your question?
My name is Alan. My question is just from Mark.

Speaker 15 (01:07:50):
I want to know.

Speaker 16 (01:07:50):
I saw you, guys, I saw much slam during the
employment of Judgment Day.

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
I want to know. Do you think Dark did the
creative move?

Speaker 11 (01:07:58):
Well, I'm getting rid of mommy and Damian Preestyle Judgment
Day and also can we get road rules back?

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
Oh yeah, double sided questions? So yes, uh.

Speaker 11 (01:08:08):
I feel like TKO lately has been going in a
direction that I think does not like the fans, one
of them being the WrestleMania two years in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
I feel like the fans totally turn on that.

Speaker 11 (01:08:17):
And as far as road rules, I will say this,
there is something road rules ish on the starting block.
It hasn't started yet, but it's on the starting block.

Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
Warming.

Speaker 8 (01:08:32):
Its fucking Winnebago baby.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Next question, what's your name? Is broken?

Speaker 9 (01:08:42):
It's not getting out of the shop, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
My name's Megan.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
I'm from down River.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:08:49):
So my question is, since you guys are talking about
the cheating on the Eating Challenge, is this like the
first time people have cheated on the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Eating Challenge or is that like a typical thing that
you guys do when.

Speaker 9 (01:08:59):
It there's they do it normally.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
The eating ones are in the finals, there's more refs,
there's more seriously, there's more preparation and the repercussion tends
to be they put more food on your plate, which
can and they'll say we'll even put more.

Speaker 9 (01:09:13):
Than what you like, either fake threw up or hit
or whatever.

Speaker 24 (01:09:17):
So the so the the.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
Repercussions aren't necessarily worth the reward. But you know, it's
kind of like storming the field after a win, as
long as everybody.

Speaker 9 (01:09:26):
Does it simultaneously. You know, that's kind of what it
looked like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
They were all doing it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:31):
Yeah, guy, except for CT eight, every last calorie of
all that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
So you're saying, one guy storms the field, he's getting
tackled and arrested. Sixty thousand people do it, We're just
gonna trample everyone knowing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Can get in troumble.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
Eating.

Speaker 11 (01:09:47):
Eating is so so Derek for instance, Right, I'd walk
into the challengehouse and Derek would be eating like a
whole red pepper, like like because he likes.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
It, not even for for a challenge.

Speaker 11 (01:09:57):
So like when I saw him fail eating those onion
and really like dying, he was like, I just couldn't
to His brother actually tried to do it in the
same thing and gave up as well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
See, I feel like if everyone keeps saying bring bring
back road rules, bring back real I want bring back
horseballs to the Eating Challenge this whole look, I get
that eating an onion is hard, but in like a
Rubik's cube kind of way.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
We want gross hard.

Speaker 8 (01:10:23):
We want vomit cal brains.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
We want them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
When you hear it, explain you vomit. If we're gonna
do the vomit. You know what the gross Hey, the
grossest thing I've ever done. Maybe some of you guys
have done it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:36):
There's a thing called a ballute duck egg, and it's
an almost hatched duck in a shell that you have
to eat.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
It's it's terrible ballute duck egg.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
By the way, here's a funny story about Fessi. You
guys fans of FESTI here, So I want to say,
is the best he is. He doesn't have the best
rep on the show, partially because he's not a great
eater on the show. Okay, Mark and I can confirm

(01:11:07):
that he's not a great eater. Just for lunch, for fun, Like,
we took him to a restaurant, No, no, no, FESSI remember,
so we took him. Oh, we took him out to
lunch in Minneapolis at this look. Look it was a
little bit of a weird place. It was like a
place where everything was made with like local ingredients. There's
like a Native American place, and literally he would not
eat a single thing on the menu.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
And he studied the menu for like two minutes, and
I go, what do you get? And he goes nothing. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
He wouldn't eat just because everything was like a little off,
like instead of being like a burger, it would be
like a bison burger, or like instead of just being
turkey chili, it would be like Elk chili. And he'd
be like, nah, dude, I don't fuck with ELK like that.
And I'm like, I'm like, listen, none of us fuck
with ELK like that. We're not Elmer Fudd going around
is fucking with Elk to be funny. It's just called
being an adventuress. And he wouldn't do it. He is

(01:11:55):
so basic of an eater.

Speaker 14 (01:11:57):
Ye shot an Elk?

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
Shot an Elk? Oh yeah, okay, so he does.

Speaker 8 (01:12:00):
Work with ELK. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
Speaking of picky eaters, you got what, Pierre, he's a
picky eater too. Oh my god, where's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
We got one too, Derek Q tech Bill, we have
said you would trust me. You guys think on the channel,
like going out to dinner or lunch with some of
these picky fucks is worse than doing some of these
eating challenge So.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
Guys, let me give you one quick example. Bill, who
I love from Boston. He's how old are you?

Speaker 9 (01:12:28):
Bill? How old are you? So?

Speaker 11 (01:12:33):
Last year we go to breakfast and he goes, Mark,
I'm gonna do something crazy today and I'm like, is
this guy like gonna I have no idea what's he
gonna do?

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
So he goes, I'm gonna.

Speaker 11 (01:12:44):
Order eggs for the first time in my life and
I went, wait, like you've had him, but you'd never ordered.

Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
He goes, no, I've never tried eggs in my life.

Speaker 11 (01:12:51):
I said, your mother has never funny tried to get
because like I just refuse as a baby.

Speaker 8 (01:12:56):
Goes, I'm doing it today, and he did it.

Speaker 7 (01:13:00):
He did it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
Hasn't eaten an egg since no eggs. Next question, what's
your name where you're from?

Speaker 21 (01:13:07):
Thank you, Scott. My name is Matthew from here. The
questions for Derek Kazinski, Oh shit, not here.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
He's in He's in Wes's beard.

Speaker 8 (01:13:16):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
So my question will be not show up to challenge
manias that I am at, partly because from a sales perspective,
if I'm here, we don't need.

Speaker 14 (01:13:25):
Him, and because Wes always brings a poll so they
can wrestle yes.

Speaker 15 (01:13:33):
Either way.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
Then my question would be for mister Bergman.

Speaker 21 (01:13:36):
Johnny's been very vocal about your absence on forty Chavez
may have slotted in in that role. So do you
have any regrets personally professionally to the fans, to the
franchise for not being a part of that series.

Speaker 6 (01:13:50):
I I yeah, no, I'm I would like to have
formally apologize to everybody. I I you know there's a
I know it's been a minute, So I'll just say something.
If anyone wants to combat with this with any sort
of fact, what I'm about to spit is this true game.
For almost a decade, I was the face of the
entire fucking network.

Speaker 9 (01:14:10):
I was forgot Banana's whole like I am the challenge.

Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
No, I was the challenge, and I stepped back because
I am also a lot of other things, and so
he just has nothing else going on. But I mean,
my face was on all those billboards, I was running
all those things. I invented all this shit, and then
you just take a few little steps back to I

(01:14:43):
don't know, start a family in a business and make
society better, and then people start forgetting your fucking names.

Speaker 9 (01:14:52):
So just remember that. Just remember that, I don't even
know if I answered the question. I forget what the question?

Speaker 8 (01:15:02):
Love it?

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
Best answer ever? All right, what's your name?

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
And by the way west to humbling even further. Look
at this guy's hat. He's clearly a fan.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yeah, they want to enjoy your Chiefs hat for one
more day until Monday night football against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 8 (01:15:19):
Wire the Jaggerbobs.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
I'm JP.

Speaker 16 (01:15:25):
I'm from Lenexa, Kansas. Yeah, and uh I know we
all this is actually for everybody. Was originally gonna be for.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
The ogs, but uh I love the messiness and the.

Speaker 16 (01:15:38):
Weird, crazy party hooking up with everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
I like non he is keeping it alive.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Right here, made eye contact.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
Is there a reason?

Speaker 7 (01:15:57):
Is it?

Speaker 16 (01:15:58):
Is there like a reason that it kind of seemed
like they made a concerted effort to cut that down
in the last few years, or.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Is y.

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
You know you want to know, you want to know
that want to get weird.

Speaker 6 (01:16:11):
I will say this, I think it's and I get
in trouble every time I blame the fans.

Speaker 9 (01:16:15):
It's the fans fault. Fall. You guys as a group,
not this group. This is a supportive, good group.

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
But you can't cancel us for being crazy and then
expect them to keep the craziness in.

Speaker 9 (01:16:37):
I know, but there's a it's a.

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
It's we're under way finer Microsoft's.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
It's an oxymoronic thing in to where it's kind of like, Okay,
So until cancel, culture is not a thing, everyone's going
to act like an adult.

Speaker 9 (01:16:49):
You know what I'm saying. Well, you can subscribe to
Nanni's only fans if you want rich.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Yeah, and I just word, we just hit twelve new subscriptions.
So you guys got her on the podcast. You free sample,
free sample. We support small businesses here, Okay, that's why

(01:17:17):
we have the blocks, That's why we have Nannies varying enterprises,
and Challenge Mania is a small business. So thanks for
being here today. Next question, what's your name? Where you're from?

Speaker 9 (01:17:28):
Then?

Speaker 8 (01:17:29):
Did you subscribe to No, I'm just kidding here you go.

Speaker 19 (01:17:32):
My name is Kristen.

Speaker 25 (01:17:33):
I'm from toled, Ohio, and my first I love you guys,
so this is like seriously drink of true love you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
So for our new dads.

Speaker 8 (01:17:43):
Okay, right, you guys, I got this one.

Speaker 25 (01:17:45):
Guys, what do you regret now that you guys have
kids and think about, like what if someone treated your daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
The way you treated Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Yeah, okay, here we go, here we go. You want
to take this one?

Speaker 9 (01:18:08):
Watch your words?

Speaker 18 (01:18:10):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:18:11):
I think, uh, I think it's fair to say that
every single person, whether there's a camera in your face
or not, has made a bunch of mistakes, and uh,
you know, to to there's no doubt that someone else.
Just speak for myself. At some point, I'm gonna have
to sit her down. I'm gonna have to explain your
daddy's on television. Your daddy has done, has made some mistakes, and.

Speaker 14 (01:18:30):
I gotta do that three times.

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
But you know, there's just there's just something about it, like, uh,
you know that there's just no doubt that we've all
we've all made mistakes.

Speaker 14 (01:18:44):
So listen, I'm gonna show them the clips and be like,
you're gonna start dating soon. Find someone opposite of that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
I though that that's I thought that.

Speaker 7 (01:18:55):
I can't think of nothing really bad as you guys
on TV. But but but but but but what I
what I will say?

Speaker 9 (01:19:02):
What I say sex was my ex girlfriend on a
bunk bed right above me.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
That's nothing wrong with sex.

Speaker 8 (01:19:11):
No, no, but listen, What what I will say.

Speaker 9 (01:19:15):
Is I have made the bathroom with Naya.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
It was nothing that.

Speaker 9 (01:19:24):
Shut up.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
You're just going up right needs to learn what I Listen.

Speaker 7 (01:19:31):
What I will say is the cycle will not be
repeated because my son has guidance now for no and all.

Speaker 9 (01:19:38):
Honestly and honestly, there was.

Speaker 7 (01:19:39):
A time of my life and I'm sure for a
lot of people, men or women, where I didn't have
the proper guidance, so I didn't know what I was doing.
And so now I don't look at it's like something
that I regret. I'm afraid for them to see is
my son won't repeat the cycle, and my daughter will
know how to choose a person off of how I'm
raising my son.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Hi, come on, make people, I'm the most loved le Roy's.

Speaker 9 (01:20:05):
Lee.

Speaker 11 (01:20:05):
Roy's got a sick come out called Daddy Leroy on
Fox Kid tuning in that Daddy Leroy show.

Speaker 5 (01:20:15):
Real quick, Tiffany, So yeah, yeah, Tiffany, tell real.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Quick, just so just so you don't think we're all
bad parents people, Tiffany, tell that adorable story about how
you couldn't make it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
So so Xavier Phil did to take your son on
a very important trip.

Speaker 23 (01:20:33):
Oh that's an Exavier story. No, no, seriously, I was
filming Traders. And even though X stole my seven hundred
and fifty thousand fucking dollars so that I could send
my son to school, my son didn't be a justice
of doing well in school. And so he got scholarships
to help him go to school. And I'm so grateful

(01:20:53):
for that. And he's at Western Michigan studying aviation. Yeah,
he's a p he wants to be a pilot. And
X is his big uncle. So X took him. Christian said,
I'm taking the train by myself. I'm going to Kalamazoo.
I'm hanging out with X. X picked him up from

(01:21:15):
the train station, took him all through Klambazoo. Said don't
kick it over here. There's some holes over here. But
you know, he took him through.

Speaker 9 (01:21:25):
Man, It's like, hey, look, you go over this part
of town.

Speaker 8 (01:21:28):
Don't go over there, you go over this part of town.

Speaker 9 (01:21:31):
Boy, he's a grown man. I can't have you gotta
have he gotta have men and the man talk. I
was putting them onto the game.

Speaker 23 (01:21:42):
I appreciate it, but X is my big brother, no
matter that he didn't pay for tuition this year.

Speaker 7 (01:21:47):
You know, I love him.

Speaker 23 (01:21:50):
I stick beside him. He thinks it's like all love.
I'm like, it's all the money that you have that
I still need. So until he run out, we're gonna
be just like this, X.

Speaker 8 (01:22:02):
You took seven hundred and fifty bands.

Speaker 22 (01:22:05):
See when you say it like that, that sounds so
aggressive because like there's taxes.

Speaker 23 (01:22:11):
Leo Leo diabob di and then he kicked me off
season one of the Challenge as if he had not
fucked me over enough.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Yo.

Speaker 20 (01:22:27):
Right, So what you're saying is X, it's a three
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa that has happened.

Speaker 22 (01:22:40):
Don't put that in the universe to where they're gonna
start a super I'm trying to win money, man, gonna
make me lose?

Speaker 5 (01:22:46):
Well, hey, you did go on there was another show
you did for that for that ultimatum? Yeah, ultimatum, ultimatum?
What's ultimatum?

Speaker 8 (01:22:56):
The anonymous? The anonymous, the anonymous?

Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
Yeah, where'd you get ultimatum from?

Speaker 12 (01:23:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
I didn't do he was on the Anonymous, did an
You guys watch the anonymous?

Speaker 9 (01:23:07):
You lie right, liars liars?

Speaker 5 (01:23:10):
He won it came it came on and like you won,
you wymous?

Speaker 9 (01:23:16):
Sure, yep?

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
Did he really?

Speaker 8 (01:23:18):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
I lost?

Speaker 8 (01:23:20):
What did you win?

Speaker 5 (01:23:21):
These two think you want?

Speaker 15 (01:23:24):
Wait?

Speaker 9 (01:23:25):
Who thinks I won the Anonymous?

Speaker 12 (01:23:27):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:23:28):
No, Sandra's daughter won that show. Sandra's daughter. I got
my ass kicked.

Speaker 5 (01:23:35):
What are you all? You were out like week one right? No,
week two right, week four, week four right? I'm bing
in four week clusters. So for me, it was like
the first day I watched it, you were gone from
the from.

Speaker 9 (01:23:49):
The vaper, you longer than Jost on his show.

Speaker 22 (01:23:52):
Hold on, I see a lot of Detroit Lions fans
out here. Shove but time.

Speaker 8 (01:24:00):
Out this man right here, sir, Sir, sir, sure pay
attention to.

Speaker 9 (01:24:08):
New York in the front bro at a Detroit show.

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
You wear a New York Giants he's ripping. Get this
guy the fuck out of here, sir. It's perfectly fine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
You're It's like they're playing the Giants and they're playing
the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
But that jersey is toughest. By the way, what's the
eagle score? Anyone eagle score? I appreciate you.

Speaker 9 (01:24:42):
Scoring we're doing what you're supposed to do. After the show,
we just go and jump you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
So our next question comes from someone wearing a Detroit
Lion shirt. So I'm gonna give up. I'm gonna give
him one of these stickers. It says Challenge Mania. It's
got to Detroit Lions doing a pull wrestle with a
couple of challenge Hi.

Speaker 24 (01:25:06):
Everyone, fuck the giants and let's go to Troy.

Speaker 8 (01:25:11):
There is my man.

Speaker 24 (01:25:13):
My questions for any of the vets up here? Ay, Roy,
Zach West, non Mark. Love to hear from you guys.
So watching any of the last few challenges in any
of the rookies or new threats, is there anyone you
guys that's on your radar that you could see being
the next Jordan, the next c t, the next Bananas, anybody.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
I haven't seen guy?

Speaker 14 (01:25:41):
No one is the next Jordan until they beat Jordan's
So that's number one. Who is nobody is the next Jordan?

Speaker 9 (01:25:52):
A young threat and he is very good looking, very funny,
very athletic. Who his name is? And he's great?

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Justin's good.

Speaker 9 (01:26:06):
I'm saying, yeah, he's got it.

Speaker 8 (01:26:11):
I mean, just.

Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
All right, so you guys heard it. Next Johnny Bananas,
justin Nick? Is that your name? All right? Nick's got
a question? What's it and who's it for? My question
is for all of you. If there was another season
of Rivals, who would be your rival? And why?

Speaker 14 (01:26:37):
Bonus points production?

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
If it's for something not public we don't already know about, oh,
bonus points.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
If it's like someone you bang down the d L
go ahead x X. You got who's your enemy? Guy
or girl? Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Guy? Girl?

Speaker 9 (01:26:54):
Alyssa, Tiffany d.

Speaker 7 (01:26:57):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:26:58):
If I had like a rival.

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
Kylo, Yeah, that clip they show that clip at the
end of Big Brother. No no, no, you know that
was crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:27:10):
Show the clip.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
You're saying that they would show the clip. This would
be the producer talking, Oh, it would cut to that boom.

Speaker 9 (01:27:18):
If I had one rival in the reality TV space
is probably kuy reality probably.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Tip tip.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
What about you?

Speaker 23 (01:27:37):
It's Josh as always.

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
Josh yo that it's not even right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Though I love Timpanio, y'all couldn't even be her rival
for role I love to.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
What about you?

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
Lee?

Speaker 12 (01:27:57):
You know what?

Speaker 7 (01:27:57):
Every time they had rivals, I've only had one rivals
in the real world.

Speaker 5 (01:28:01):
Your best friend.

Speaker 7 (01:28:01):
They pretty much just made up every time every season.
I'm all with rivals. Production probably just wants me there
because I'm actually super cool with this person. So even
when they put me with Devin, I was like, all right,
I guess we're rivals now, so I don't know. I
have no idea me and is that that'd be great?

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
Fuck Zach, we rivals now? I would love that. What
about you, Zach?

Speaker 14 (01:28:26):
I think that list goes around the block, Zach, let me.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
I'm gonna I'm gonna flip it on you, and I'm
gonna ask it in a way.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Who would you be the most annoyed if you showed
up for like an All Stars rival season and you're
looking around and you're doing the math, and you found
out this person, whether your rivals or not, was your partner.
Who would you be the most annoyed to see that
they picked for whatever reason?

Speaker 26 (01:28:54):
Lots of amandas I hear that from the crowd, Jemmy,
I would just talk about now.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Jemmy, it was the answer that would be a pay
per view. What do you guys think? Do you guys
want to see Zach and Jemmy on a rival season?
Holy shit?

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
Worth it.

Speaker 14 (01:29:18):
There's not enough soap in the world to get that
stench off.

Speaker 6 (01:29:21):
Now, So.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Damn we're gonna move down the line to West Wes.
You've got a lot of people to choose from. Who
who would you think would be your rival? But who
also would you be the most perturbed to see?

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
Because I love that I want to I think that
Bananas and I should do it together.

Speaker 5 (01:29:44):
But now, you guys are too copaetic these things. Yeah,
we're that's cheating, we're copacetic.

Speaker 6 (01:29:50):
But he is still the most annoying man on the challenge.
Like I have just given up trying to fight. That
doesn't mean that we're copa setic.

Speaker 9 (01:30:01):
I'm just like I just have figured out how to
block him out.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
But he's still the worst because I always feel like
they do these calls the wrong way.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
They call him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
They're like, so like, who would be like a rival
of yours? And people are smart enough to know they
like name the like, well, you know, be a jony.

Speaker 9 (01:30:18):
We would we would get out first so fast, it's
not even funny.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Meanwhile, it's the people you don't ever mention. They'd be like,
well he didn't mention Jimmy, let's call Jemmy. There's guy.
Jimmy's everyone's answer. By the way, Nanny, what about you? Nanny?

Speaker 10 (01:30:34):
What what?

Speaker 12 (01:30:34):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:30:34):
What rival? Would you not want to see?

Speaker 18 (01:30:37):
I only okay, I know, like Anisa and I just
got into a fight. Guys, we're not rivals. I don't
care what anybody says. We're not rivals.

Speaker 19 (01:30:44):
There's only right now, there's only one person.

Speaker 18 (01:30:50):
That I would consider a rival that I know production
is dying to get their hands on.

Speaker 19 (01:30:56):
And who's Teresa. Yeah, he still hate that bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
Yeah, so Teresa. I don't know if you've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
So, Nanni, Nanni, have you paid attention to any of
her recent posts and things and whatnot.

Speaker 8 (01:31:15):
No, she's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
She's going very Teresa has gone very like scorched Earth
with the show. So I don't think we're gonna see
her on the show anytime soon.

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
She's burning the bridge. I think we.

Speaker 14 (01:31:28):
Asked Teresa be on our podcast and she responded with
the picture of a penis.

Speaker 9 (01:31:34):
Hey, Nanni, will you write the picture?

Speaker 5 (01:31:39):
All right? Leo, you're only one season in half a
season in fresh.

Speaker 9 (01:31:45):
Single veteran, past president future.

Speaker 8 (01:31:49):
Yeah, everyone who's been before me can get the smoke.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
Okay, all right, we got con timber a few more.
What's your name away from?

Speaker 9 (01:31:57):
I'm Brandon from Indiana. And my question is that is
an unsanctioned merchandise. My guy, wait, where from the picture.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
Of me paying royalty before you take a picture. My
mom's saying, well, it's that's a.

Speaker 8 (01:32:11):
Two dollars picture for him.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
My questions for us what elimination lost?

Speaker 9 (01:32:19):
I didn't hear that. Sorry, say it again.

Speaker 19 (01:32:21):
What elimination loss hurt more bear bananas?

Speaker 9 (01:32:27):
Well, okay, so.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
The while wearing the unauthorized west merch.

Speaker 11 (01:32:36):
And and he's is in your rival, but look he
liked what you were like the biggest loser on.

Speaker 6 (01:32:44):
This loss or this loss you know, to those of you,
to every there was a few people that were there.
I punched out all of the all of the things,
so I couldn't have done a whole lot better other
than finding this stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:32:55):
And you guys forget that. That's one and one. I
beat him in blind stick fighting a mirror. Know you're prior,
which is.

Speaker 6 (01:33:02):
An elimination that needs to come back, by the way,
and then the bear one is bad. But I mean
I had just gotten back from the hospital. I was
there for several days.

Speaker 8 (01:33:13):
But you won that war. I feel, Yeah, you came
out on top of the bear.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
West.

Speaker 8 (01:33:18):
Where are they now?

Speaker 9 (01:33:20):
You guys can.

Speaker 14 (01:33:22):
How does it feel to lose to a pedophile West?

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
Yeah? What you were the last guy he was on
top of. Take his mind, take his mind, take your mind,
take him.

Speaker 9 (01:33:42):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:33:43):
Headline, what's the headline on that?

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
Yeah, he was touching you, was touching me inappropriate leg
but no, like in the in the middle of it,
he was cheating. I was looking while I was getting
like strangled, I was looking up on my team that
was like, we're gonna throw you in next week, right,
And I had just gotten back from the hospital, and no,
Dak was Zach.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
And I were cool that season, so fairness.

Speaker 14 (01:34:11):
I didn't know they were gonna vote him until two
seconds before.

Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
And it was a Laurel move, right.

Speaker 9 (01:34:16):
It was Laurel and Josh and a few others.

Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
But but the reality of it was like I was
staring at my future in that game, and I was like,
this might be a good.

Speaker 9 (01:34:24):
Time to take my metal seat back to Kansas, and
this is a waste of time.

Speaker 14 (01:34:30):
A great question.

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
A few more questions. What's your name? Way about?

Speaker 12 (01:34:36):
Okay, my name's Alexis. I'm also from Indiana. Yeah, I
got a different shirt on here. I'm not gonna say
it up.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
What's the weather like?

Speaker 9 (01:34:44):
Which kid?

Speaker 19 (01:34:45):
Okay, I'll see it.

Speaker 12 (01:34:46):
I also do a challenge podcast with some people around
this world called Challenge Fanom Podcasts.

Speaker 19 (01:34:51):
This is my fourth Challenge Mania event, first time with
the micro so thank you very much, right, not my
first time. Thank you Pierre for the hospitality.

Speaker 12 (01:34:59):
Last, my question is actually for Wes though I'm sorry.
So there's a new threat named Sidney that everybody's been
talking about.

Speaker 19 (01:35:11):
I just want to know if you think that she's
comparable to you.

Speaker 12 (01:35:14):
I took a quote from I Believe, a Challenge Many
episode where Sidney says maintaining greatness is exhausting, and to me,
that sounded like it came straight out of your quote
for it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
So what do you think about her? Do you think
she's comparable?

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
I definitely think she's comparable. I see when she's talks.
I'm like, man, that is something I would say, like.

Speaker 9 (01:35:34):
There is no there's no doubt about it. Now I don't.
I don't know her, and people hate it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:38):
When I've been very complimentary of her online and people
jump me and now and now because of that, I
now just continually compliment her because I get so much
engagement and I sell so many Patreon.

Speaker 9 (01:35:49):
Things every time I compliment. So I'm just gonna keep
doing it. I am doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
I'm obnoxious on purpose, and I don't know whether she's
just obnoxious, and so I just I dial it up,
Like as I'm walking on stage, I'm like, okay, dial
it up three notches.

Speaker 9 (01:36:06):
I don't know if she's just like permanently there.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
And she's an attorney. But no, is it surprising?

Speaker 6 (01:36:12):
Is it surprising that a good looking, smart, athletic, powerful
fucking woman reminds me of me?

Speaker 9 (01:36:19):
No, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
Give it up for that. Give it up for the
challenge Fandom podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
By the way, I don't know if you guys, you guys,
you guys in the front, might be able to just
turn around and just look at Pierre in the wild.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
Everybody up top, can you guys a mountain of mop loast?
Pierre good daughter's pier.

Speaker 6 (01:36:53):
Ladies, Now you know what the apparatus felt like when
CT jumped off of it.

Speaker 14 (01:37:01):
I gave the big Fetucini out of this.

Speaker 27 (01:37:04):
Oh the man, were you pasta only fewer days. I've
cried more than the day Pierre caught this air. The
day I turned on the stream and his hairs was gone.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
I cried for hours. Last question, better make it good?
What's you name? Where you're from? Here's a card sticker.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
My name is Jessica.

Speaker 28 (01:37:22):
I'm from Metro Detroit.

Speaker 8 (01:37:24):
Big shout out to you all.

Speaker 28 (01:37:27):
I was gonna ask Nannie if Will was worth it,
but we learned that he was.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
So my question.

Speaker 28 (01:37:35):
My question is actually for Leo. Leo, as a huge
Love Island fan, I have to know. First off, I'm
mad that you didn't mention Cassie as your rival because
she would have so dominated with you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
I'm gonna mention that now.

Speaker 28 (01:37:49):
Two though, who would you love to see join the
Challenge family? Because I personally would love to see Josh
from Love Island any season, any season.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
I love our boy Josh.

Speaker 28 (01:38:01):
He did games well. So who would you love to
see join the Challenge family?

Speaker 8 (01:38:05):
That's a good question.

Speaker 17 (01:38:07):
As soon as he said, I was gonna say Josh
because Josh is my boy. I hang out with him
all the time. But he's the only one competing. Are
you guys watching the violin games?

Speaker 8 (01:38:14):
Anybody see I'm not right, but.

Speaker 9 (01:38:18):
I'll tune in on TikTok.

Speaker 8 (01:38:19):
Like I'm a fucking realist, right, So I'm asking my
boy and they're just dogging his ship.

Speaker 17 (01:38:23):
But I'm like, they're like, he tries too hard. I'm like,
bro on the challenge, that's what all these people do.
I'm like, hold on, but like he could actually ball out.
So I think if you know who Josh is, like
he'd fit and great, he fitting great. I might try
to I might try to do that.

Speaker 9 (01:38:37):
Leo, I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Josh just went home, all right, Just a quick heads up.
So we're we're winding down to the end of show.
H Terry the photographer, Terry, if you want to start
positioning towards the center of the room, we're gonna be
doing our group photo of a minute, Terry. If anyone
sees our photographer Terry, now, we're gonna be need that group.

Speaker 5 (01:38:58):
Okay. So yeah, so we're gonna do a big group
of the answer. You should probably go in.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
This center that way to get it, because like, or
you want that one this way with the people behind
us too. That could be good too, Scott. I'm an artist, actually, Terry,
you think that's a good idea behind us. Okay, good, okay,
So stay there. But before we do that, I was
gonna shut down the questions. I don't have any more giveaways.
But the man standing here, who's the next person of
for questions. We call him Evil Paul because every question

(01:39:23):
he has ever asked on the podcast has infuriated me.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
Zach even backstage asked me. He said, do you know Paul?
I said, yeah, I know, Paul. We bonded over our relative.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Our relative discussed for you and your overall approach to
these questions. So we're gonna give you one shot here
in your home city, hometown, home state of Detroit, to
ask a question. And I'm sure you've prepared with all
the Evil Paul intent. But here you, guys, go one
of your finest Evil Paul. Everybody, go ahead, last question.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
This is like a power slap match.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Look at his fucking shirt, guys. I told you he's
a troll. His shirt says where's Derek. This is the
attitude that guy brings to everything he does in life.
Without further ado, here's what will no doubt be the
best question of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
Hit us.

Speaker 8 (01:40:14):
Guarantee you we love you Paul.

Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
The best question of the day.

Speaker 8 (01:40:26):
Guarantee, we love you, Paul.

Speaker 15 (01:40:29):
You're helping me up, way, way, way too much. But
I'm Paul from Michigan. But yeah, making nasty bought currently,
I live run free in scott'shead.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
It's really great.

Speaker 15 (01:40:41):
My question is for everyone, so we know that production
finds you guys for sometimes ridiculous things. Allegedly people have
been fined from making fun of TJ waiting cargo starts.
What is the most ridiculous find by production that you
guys have heard of or personally experience ors nothing ridiculous, Just.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
What is it?

Speaker 18 (01:40:59):
I have a good one on a bad question, got
new fine, So Anissa and I actually for total madness.

Speaker 19 (01:41:05):
So they flew us to Prague.

Speaker 18 (01:41:07):
We stay the night in a hotel and then the
next day we like were filming, so in the hotel
and Lisa and I left and ran across the street
to get Starbucks.

Speaker 19 (01:41:15):
You're not allowed to do that, obviously, and we got
fined fifteen one hundred dollars cup of coffees. Not worth it.

Speaker 14 (01:41:25):
At work, I've been fined twice. Once was for smashing
the house up on rivals too.

Speaker 19 (01:41:33):
I was there.

Speaker 8 (01:41:33):
I deserved that one.

Speaker 14 (01:41:35):
The other one was on War of the World's Too,
the last challenge for the final where we were in
those uh we were on the chords and Jordan was
gonna smoke us anyway, So I just bailed and left
Ninja sitting up there alone because I was like, there's
no way I'm having her fall on top of me
or me fall on top of her. So I got
fined three three thousand dollars for that.

Speaker 12 (01:41:54):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
Was there something with you and Natalie Negrotty with glitter?
Was that you on her?

Speaker 6 (01:41:58):
On you?

Speaker 14 (01:41:59):
Well, she threw the glitter, I mean multiple seasons, but
after she got eliminated from wre the World's Won, she
glittered by my bed and I bitched about it until
she got fined.

Speaker 7 (01:42:08):
Yeah, so George swings both ways. I got, I got
fined in. I got fund in Columbia, true true story.
Gotta eliminate it per usual. Sounded like some sound but
not only I got eliminated with me Johnny like thirty
thirty thirty in Colombia. I took a picture with a

(01:42:30):
supporter of the show. I went to say fans a
supporter of the show. They posted online. Production found out
two thousand dollars five can't feed my kids, and that.

Speaker 5 (01:42:40):
Person's here today. Give it up for Melanie, And I'm
say anybody else gotta fine story? Mark you got one?
They they so on a battle of the exes.

Speaker 11 (01:42:49):
It was Johnny and I and CT in a room
and someone got voted off, so they took his bunk
bed out of the room.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
So we decided to rearrange the room and make it
like a big fort.

Speaker 11 (01:42:58):
And they came in and said, you guys are gonna
get fined unless you take all this down, and we
were like, we're so anti production. We said, well then
you find us. So we got fined and then they
did the room back together.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
So that's the end of the Q and a thank you, Paul.
That was fairly tame for your standards. Appreciate it. I'm
gonna give you guys out there one more chance to
say goodbye to everybody, one at a time. We're gonna
give them if they want to say something to you guys,
just some parting thoughts.

Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
Okay, then we're gonna post for a group photo.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
I believe Terry is gonna take it from this way,
so you guys can all be in it, so we'll
understand up.

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
But before we do that, we're gonna go down the line.
Everybody one more time.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Give it up for Exavier, who's excited to see this
one on Traders season, following in Wes's footsteps, but I
would imagine leaving them in the dust.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
Give it up for Tivity Mitchell. Everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Yeah, a lot of season left. Maybe forty one is
the one where he finally doesn't give it up for
the future Champ, give it up for le Roight Yeive.
My cash app is Roy Lee Edy five oh by
the way, by the way, Champ, by the way, I

(01:44:18):
do want to say so you guys know he's the
official challenge barber.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
Everybody right, he did.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
He did a pop up a couple of weeks ago
that sold out instantly, So follow a social he'll probably
do another one in the area where you can come
get your haircut by Lee. He'll talk about a challenge
with you. He's gonna be bringing it on the road.
But if some of you guys could use some fresh cuts.
I'm not gonna lie, I'm not saying waves, I'm not
saying way, but maybe your second one get it for Lee, Roy,
give it up for Leroy, Yeah, everybuddy.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
For a man who was so scared to step on
one of our stages to be a part of Challenge Media,
I think you did pretty well.

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
Give it up his favorite podcaster.

Speaker 13 (01:45:01):
Give it up for second.

Speaker 14 (01:45:08):
I appreciate it right for coming out and as always,
go lions.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
All right, this man needs no introduction, but well, well
well we're gonna give him one anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:45:23):
This guy before when.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
When he was rolling off names, someone was rolling off names,
the Johnny's, the Jordan's, the cts.

Speaker 5 (01:45:30):
This guy's on the rushboard with him.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
He breaks out every episode every week on his Patreon, Patreon,
dot com slash weston Bergman, he's got some of the
Blocks owners in the house. And if those guys are
don know, The Blocks is the show he put together
where he does a what would you call it incubator
with entrepreneurs, helps them grow their business, takes a little piece,
and it puts them on his own reality show. This
man is a genius. He's a collaborator, he's a creator.

(01:45:55):
He should shave the beard. Give it up for Wessenburger,
all right, Dare I say she is smiling once again?

Speaker 5 (01:46:08):
The way I used to see her smile in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Give it up she's back in the d Give it
up for Nanny guns on it and then last, but honestly,
maybe least. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 17 (01:46:29):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
We love having the new blood. We love having the
new threats, We love having a fresh beat. Give it
up for one of the most outspoken guys on the show.
He's still out there. He might be winning Season forty one.

Speaker 9 (01:46:40):
Give it up for you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
You got people just screaming for me to take your
shirt off, and he's got it tucked in.

Speaker 5 (01:46:53):
He's letting you know. It's not even coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
So I usually give either Derek or this guy to
last word. So I just want to say thank you, guys.
I turned forty on Tuesday. Thank you guys for allowing
me to live the life of a twenty six year
old for how long. I don't know how much longer
it's gonna be, but it's gonna be fun getting to
come up here and talk about a show I grew

(01:47:17):
up watching and loving with people who I knew, grew
up watching and loving it with the people who make
the show happen.

Speaker 5 (01:47:23):
It's a dream job. I'm glad I invented it. Thank
you guys for being a part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
And if it wasn't for this guy, we couldn't do
this every single week when Derek can't do it, when
so and so can't do it, this guy likes to
fill in because unlike all of us who have what
do we have between the four of us, we have
twelve kids.

Speaker 5 (01:47:45):
He has done so he is all of our godfather.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
There wouldn't be a road Rolls, a real world a
challenge without mister Marklauwe.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
Guys, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:48:01):
It's crazy because I was with my parents. I have
a very close relation to my parents. Are like my
dad goes Mark, when was road Rules? I said it
was nineteen ninety five and I was like and then
I was like, man, that's so old, that's so long ago.

Speaker 5 (01:48:14):
But it actually it doesn't seem that long.

Speaker 11 (01:48:16):
And the fact that I told my parents the other day,
She's like, do you think more people know you now?

Speaker 8 (01:48:22):
And then I said from once? She goes from before.

Speaker 11 (01:48:24):
I said absolutely, I said, mom, social media and da
da da dah. But it's fun to be I think
as relevant or more now than it was in nineteen
ninety five.

Speaker 5 (01:48:33):
So I mean, thank you guys for that. Thank you
for following us. The fact that I could do this
for thirty thirty years is insane, So.

Speaker 8 (01:48:44):
Thank you guys for watching.

Speaker 11 (01:48:45):
Hopefully we'll have more episodes of the franchise and All
Stars next year.

Speaker 5 (01:48:48):
I promise you that.

Speaker 11 (01:48:50):
But before I leave, this gentleman, like I said earlier,
is the engine that keeps this thing on the tracks.
He does all of the work. He really does all
of the work. Got so I think it's his birthday Tuesday.
How about a little happy birthday for Scott. We'll go
halpya birthday two. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Scott,

(01:49:22):
Happy birthday to you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:27):
They give you guys. Those cups. They give you guys,
those birthday cups. Cheers Detroit. We appreciate the chairs.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Chairs, hit the music. We're gonna do a photo, so
all you guys stand up. Terry's gonna come take a photo.
We'll be back in about twenty minutes for the me greet.
We appreciate you guys, Thank you so much.

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