October 24, 2025 • 37 mins
Scott and Lindsay are back to talk Wednesday's episode, chickens on Survivor, another straightforward vote, who is starting to shine, What Jeff and Jeremy said about Parvati and MORE!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's up? Everybody? Happy Friday?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here, Scott Lindsay back to breakdown episode five of Survivor
season forty nine.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Who boy, did this get good?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Not like I predicted this exactly last week, although I
will say there was some good, you know, character development
from some of the other supporting characters.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But we did, I believe see who we thought was
going to go home? Go home? Mister?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Which outcome did you think was more unpredictable the Knicks
game that we watched straight before we went to the
Knicks game that night, or the Survivor episode?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I mean a basketball game has one of two
potential outcomes, right, and these are also two good teams.
So literally, if the Knicks or the Cavaliers won, I
wouldn't have been surprised at all. I guess the Knicks
were a slight underdog going into the game and one,
so I guess that's somewhat unpredictable. But Survivor obviously at
this point has what twelve people that could potentially go home.
(01:00):
I would have ranked this guy first as and I
think I did last week on the podcast is who
I thought would go home? And uh and look here's
what I'll say Okay, I'll try it up to a
positive spin, so I'm not negative Nate over here on
the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I know I haven't been very high on this season.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I will say he was probably and again I want
to practice this probably a sweetheart of a guy. They
obviously saw something from him in casting which led them
to put him on the initial I don't know wide list,
but there was also probably something about him.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That made him the initial alternate.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I feel like that instinct, whoever had it, probably
the right instinct.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Fair to say, because so many alternates have ended up
on the cast doing really well and being great characters.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Sure I would and yes, and I would say was.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
An alternate and Davy is reality gold?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All right, then I'll then I'll I'll say it the
way I want to say it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I truly don't even understand what they could have gotten
from this guy that made want to put him on
the show at all. Like he seemed like a pretty
soft spoken, timid guy who you know, he just like
every time they showed him, he looked fairly and I know,
obviously everyone's sleepy on the island, but it looked very
sleepy and not in a kind of fun way. He
(02:16):
was kind of just you know, felt like he was
there and look again, probably a great guy to play
Pokemon go with, probably a hell of a guy to
have it a trivia night. I'm sure he's you know,
a great companion and compatriot you know who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But I'm just saying as far as like on the.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Show called Survivor, where you know it's about backstabbing and
lying and cheating and fighting for your life and trying
to find fun ways, I mean even you know, in
this episode, I think, and that's why I said I'm
not throwing the entire episode away, because we had a
predictable tribal here and a predictable cast off. You know,
you got little glimpses of people's gameplay, of people's personalities. Obviously,
(02:56):
we saw, you know, the Sage and Shannon feud continue
to develop. We saw Joan continue to get under Savannah's
skin with the taking of her belongings.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And we saw what I.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Thought was a pretty interesting and savvy move by Juan
with the rock thing he did, and then also Nate
with what he did with MC during the during the
excursion there with sort of you know, making sure that
neither of them lost their vote, but that MC did
not get the advantage. So look, these are things that
no offense. I didn't see even a little bit of
(03:28):
this from Jason, and not to say he had a
lot of cards in his hand, but you really saw him.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean, look like, here's an example.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
On the way out the door, he doesn't play the
shot in the dark, and you know he's voting riz God,
and it's like we saw kind of a glimpse of them,
you know, showing, you know, trying to make him believe
that that was the case. And you know, obviously they
they don't show us too much of it because they
don't want us to know he bought it hook line
and Sinker, because you know, as is made clear by
(03:58):
them showing us Savannah just putting a j and then
wanting us to think, oh, could she have been writing Juan,
they don't want us to know that Jason bought that
hook line and Sicker. I'm just how could anyone in
his position, the one remaining Team Yellow cast member here
not play their shot in the dark, regardless of how
(04:19):
convincing of a spiel you got from everyone else. I mean,
if everyone is telling you, hey, we're all throwing them
on Riz go with us. Then great, worst case scenario,
you don't use your vote, but they were all telling
the truth and they you vote out Riz anyway, or
or you play your shot in the dark and you
at least give yourself a puncher's chance at sticking around.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I mean, yeah, I don't see the downside to playing
your shot in the dark here. You know, you're the
last person right, and you know, unless you can pull
something off here, you don't know if you did or not,
probably not, and your one vote, you know it's either
gonna be you know. It wasn't like he was like
trying to wrangle you know, a few specific people to
(05:02):
go against Rizzo. It would have been like everybody deciding
to be in on that or not. Right, So it's
not like his like he they needed his vote to
make a move of some sort. Right, It doesn't make
It doesn't make sense me not to risk your vote here.
And it's not like anyone would fault you for playing
your shot in the dark here. It's not like that
would ruin trust moving forward. No one would hold you
(05:24):
accountable for that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Let me use this opportunity to, you know, shine a
light on a previous alternate that you know, got to
play eventually, which is Rachel. She actually used her shot
in the dark, not even to save herself, but as
like a strategic move, you know what I mean, Like
the shot in the dark is you get to use
it once you don't get a vote, it could potentially
(05:46):
save you. Let's be honest, did the ten seasons they've
had it? It's only even hit twice, so the odds
are low whatever, but at least you get a moment
out of it. And I think it's like, it's this
thing everyone kind of covets. It's not even like an
idol that you can save to use the perfect time.
Like I feel like so many people clutch this thing
to their person, you know, metaphorically, because it's I don't
(06:07):
even know if it's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I guess it is like a is it a thing
you put in there? I forget either way.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I like the fact that you would see people who
are clearly on the bottom not using it, like I
just don't.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I don't get it at all. And so that's kind
of a microcosmo.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
What my thoughts are on Jason is that, like, look,
I get we didn't see the most of him this season,
probably because he only makes it five episodes, but just
even when I saw him in the background of scenes
and shots and things like that, he just felt so
kind of complacent. And look, you know, he wasn't alternate.
He was probably the first person to ever mention it
on camera.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Jeff.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I listened to the Jeff podcast. Jeff thought it was
like cool that he broke the fourth wall, asked if
he could say that, and that that did kind of
become a part of his narrative.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But to me, it did in like a bad way.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It's like, oh, this guy's playing with house money and
he even says it to Jeff on his way out.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You know, it was a heartwarming thing.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, Yeah, it was nice to see that he was
able to have perspective so soon. You know, usually, I'm
sure people go through the range of emotions of grief,
you know, anger, an.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Alternate, right, Like his whiz way was ten days longer
than I thought I'd be here, Jeff, and it's like, yeah,
you look like somebody who was just happy to be there.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, I really disagree with you. I do. I think
that he got really unlucky, just like Matt did with
the tribe swap. He was on a tribe that was
doing amazingly. He had great relationships on that tribe, and
then he just happened to get stuck being swapped in
that way where he was in a minority. And then
(07:40):
not only that he was in a minority, but he
was able to outlast the only other person right there.
So he's like last man standing and sort of like,
you know, he did his best. I thought he did
the right thing. Like he was an alarmist. He didn't
try to like shake things up too much because people
already saw him as a gamer, right, so if he
had played his hand too hard, if he had gone
(08:00):
after someone too hard, I think they would have been
even more incentivized to go after him and say, look, like,
you know, let's just do this straightforward vote. This guy's
obviously a really hard player. We don't want him in
the game. So I think he did the right thing
by just being really friendly, easy to be around, likable,
like trying to make trying to make something happen, but
not pushing too hard. And so you know, I think
(08:22):
his mistake is not playing the show on the dark.
But I actually I don't see this at all. I
think he played. I think he was playing as well
as he could have been playing, and he just got
really unlucky here.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
All right, Well, I'm gonna this is, I guess a
backhanded compliment to say, because look, he's just someone who
I have zero interest in seeing play again again. Look
if I see him at a party, I'm sure, sweetheart. Fine, great, Okay,
here's my way of spinning it positively. I'm looking at
this tribe, the Heena tribe, which again we didn't see
so much of them because as you said, they went
on a run and they will at least they didn't
(08:55):
go on the blue like losing streak. But I'm looking
at this tribe right, and I have them in front
of me and on this tree because I want I'm
trying to figure out is the Jason thing something that
is is coupled with A he obviously goes out in
episode five, and B he's just on the Yellow tribe
we don't even know well at all because of Blue
taking up so much of the first three episodes camera time.
(09:15):
But I'm looking at it and I'm thinking of, is
this Heena tribe for all their success in the first
few challenges, like to me, they they are the least
sort of impressive tribe to me personality.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Wise that I can remember. I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Here we have Matt, who obviously went home last week,
and you know, fine, but okay, nothing I was really
too impressed by. We have Jason, I've talked at link
about him, and then we have someone who you know,
she got a few confessionals this episode, but I have
questioned whether that's yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Said to Sophie the least of any player up to
this point. And I don't necessarily think I think this
episode changed that.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Sophie too got a couple, but again they weren't necessarily
character building moment once.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It was like a moment giving her an opportunity to speak.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, she was on camera, which again I always say that,
like you know, when you see people when it's not
necessarily them talking about them, but them talking about other actions,
that's the sign of Hey, the camera likes.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Them, the editors like them, We're supposed to like them.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I get it, fine, I get it fine. I get
that she also shares a name with clearly someone who's
been the star of the season, Sophie, who I don't
know if you saw a very funny tweet somebody mentioned
somebody said to me that Sophie looks like Adam Sandler.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Now I can't get out of my head.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And then Sophie retweeted it and said, that's that's my
dad or something. Now that I see it, I can't
see it, I said. She reminded me of Alanis morisseet.
So that's what I'm going with, is like nineties Alanis
is what I'm going with with Sophie.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But but but I see the sad Man two. Okay,
but we're going back to this yellow tribe.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Sophie audition to play Adam Sandler's.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Son to you with the humble brags, the nixt to.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And Sophie could could be really good.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Maybe she could play his mom and Brock and play
the son, and well, I guess she plays daughter. I
guess at this point, although I don't know if you
know this, Adam Sandler famously now casts his daughters in
almost everything.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Did you know that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, okay, let me run through this tribe. Okay, So
we've got Sophie, who have, at the very least you
can agree with me, has not been shown. And I
get that recently we have the Genevieve example, because I
was someone who agreed with the Internet that like, for
the first few episodes, I didn't know who Genevieve was,
and clearly she made such a big dent that she's
back for season fifty. Almost won the game. I get it, okay,
(11:34):
But the other members of this tribe who are still
in the game, other than Sophie, who I think we
can all agree has been under edited here. Look, I
like MC, She's very likable. I think that her you know,
her story in this episode about being muscular growing up
and learning to love it later in life, Like, I
love that as a backstory and fine as a player
(11:57):
so far kind of not necessar early my style of player. Uh, Christina,
Christina as well, I you know, again the backstory, the
stuff heartwarming as well. And again I do chalk some
of this up to them not being you know, having
their backs against the wall. We haven't necessarily seen them
play per se, but even just on a character level,
(12:18):
they seem like just like find people who like, if
I was their friend, I'd be happy they get to
play Survivor. But as a viewer, I'm like, why did
you necessarily pick this person?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's just so far from me.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Also, I'm a little judgmental of anyone who like is
fooled by Shannon's spell of seeming like super super into
whatever you care about.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I would power rank the number one best personality on
this tribe so far, uh or the initial yellow tribe
as Steven And I still think Stephen to me is
like a little cookie cutter.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
But again, who he reminds me of?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Who does he remind you of?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Okay? DJ Tanner's boyfriend Steve.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh, okay, Steve, yeah, famously did you know this speaking
voice of Aladdin in uh In in Aladdin?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Did you know that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I did? Did you see did you do? You see it?
A little bit?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You know, I'm looking at his cast photo right now.
Let me look at this something I'm gonna I had
a bit of a man crush on Steve from Full House.
I will say I see it a little bit with
this smile. I do not necessarily well, you know what,
I see it him older in life.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So if you've gotten him older in life.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Which I don't think I've seen Steve and uh, well,
I guess Steve is not as real. Well, I said,
Steve Hale breaks up a daily Okay. What's his real
name though? Oh, Scott, his name is Scott Okay, so
Scott Winger. He does kind of look like him later
in life on Full House, though, I don't you know
it even then, but he had the different hair.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, I'll give it to you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I will give it to you Steve from Full House
aka Scott Winger. Okay, but I put him number one,
and I still too, if I'm being honest. He's just
kind of like a likable, happy to be their guy
as of now. I will say though, in this episode,
the stuff with him and Alex in the Chicken I
thought was particularly interesting and entertaining, and I'm kind of
(14:09):
glad that entertaining.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, it's really interesting. I feel like, even for someone
like you who is such a meat eater, I feel
like it made you kind of question what we all
do on a daily basis. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, no, okay, so here I mean, I was having a.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Hard time as someone who's like fluctuated as a vegetarian
throughout my life. It it was. It brings up all
of the thoughts that I can.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Let me say it, okay, so I can continue to
compartmentalize and I'm able to separate the Okay, but but
but let me say this. This is what I love
about Survivor, And this is what I love about even
if it makes me feel bad.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
The chicken dilemma on Survivor.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Is that it does, like you say, make you feel
awful and questioned eating meat in real life. To me,
it puts things in perspective about like survival and eating
meat as sustenance in this that. And then obviously you
have these two guys, like Alex said, he lives his
high rise apartment eating door dash and here he is
now having to ring the neck of a chicken, which
(15:10):
I know there's many ways to kill a chicken. I
don't know that that's the way I would have picked.
But maybe they didn't have MACHETI I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Know either way.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I can tell you firstthand that with all the meat
I eat, either, there's no way I could do that,
like I mean, And and if I.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Be one of those women that walked away, one.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Hundred percent, I'm the woman who walks away and and
look and and could I maybe in dire straits on
an island, starving. I'm sure there are things that come
out of you that you do not even know what
come that you could do. But here, as I sit
in our relatively high rise apartment, having eaten door dash
fairly recently, I I, yeah, no, I could not do that.
(15:45):
I I don't. I mean, look, I can step on
a bug. I don't, but I don't, you know, I
definitely don't. Uh, and not to mention. Let me just
say this, the killing of it is part one, right, Oh?
I am, I am also, I am, I am a
I am. I have a bit of a weak's stomach
when it comes to things like that, like the idea
of do.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
You imagine having to take every feather out of a
lifeless body.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Dude, the feathering, the skinning of this and that, the
removing of the innerds and whatever and this and that whatever,
because like again, this is other stuff that like that
the average person is not connected to. And I'm well
aware of this and it helps me compartmentalize and all
the things is that there are professional people who go
and remove all that stuff and then make food look
(16:30):
like for the most part, food Like there's a couple
foods that kind of look like food animals, like you know,
chicken wings.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's so hard for us to like be honest, with
ourselves about like just to look at to see to
do ourselves, and like maybe we shouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I don't know about that because I mean, like that's
like saying, like, for instance, when you go to the doctor,
the fact that they distract a kid while they're giving
him a shot is to say, oh, if you really
can't just take the shot on the chin and you
have to be distracted, you shouldn't get the shot, you know.
I mean like there's things in life that we've figured
out ways to you know, endure, you know, right, Like
it does mean that it's right or wrong. I will say,
(17:07):
it does make it a lot easier to compartmentalize it, right,
I will. When we were in Boston recently, and I
believe we had three or four lobster roles in a
two day period. Right, some of these places will have
like live lobsters like in the in the thing, like
in the you know, the tank whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Right, m hmm.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And I thought to myself like, oh, like, you know,
this is kind of making me feel a little bit
bad about eating it, okay, but I was still able
to eat it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Then there's the like could I bring a lobster home?
Put it in boiling water and listen to it shriek
and scream until it stopped, and then eat that. I
don't think I could do that.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You know. That's the bridge too far for me. You know.
That's why I'm not like a huge soft shell crab guy.
Like soft shell crab is just like basically like this
is a crab. You're eating the whole thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Like, But yeah, yeah, I don't want to show Brock that.
I think Brock will never eat meet again if he
watches that scene.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, please don't. But what I'll say is what I'll
say is Okay, what I'll say is.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I will say that what I like about Survivor and
I like about this moral dilemma is that obviously, on
every season, I'd imagine you have a like a variety
of people who a have no qualms with, you know,
eating a chicken and killing a chicken and doing all
the stuff, and people who have hunted and do that.
You have people who are willing to do it but
(18:34):
obviously prefer not to, like we just saw with.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Alex and Steven.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And then you have people who probably would do it
at no cost, they are disagree with it, they want
to free the chickens, et cetera. And I think that's
an interesting dilemma to have and people having to come
to terms with it and whatnot. And we've seen seasons
where people freed the chickens or refuse to let everybody
eat the chickens. In this episode, you had people who
just walked away and couldn't be there for it morally,
(18:58):
but they were happy to eat the chicken after the
fact and enjoyed that. And that's a bit of a
microcosm of what life is, right Like, most people are
like you know MC and Christina who walk away and
will happily eat it after the fact, but don't want
to be there for the killing. That's who I am,
right And then because you don't have a Keith Nail
on the tribe who's just willing to, you know, kill
(19:19):
that thing and put it on the beach. And I
know Keith Naiale did that because listening to the podcast,
Jeremy mentioned that him and Keith Nail were the people
who killed the chicken when they were on their tribe
or whatever. They didn't have that person there, So it
had to be middle category of people who desperately, desperately
didn't want to do it but reluctantly did it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And Alex and Stephens.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So I think that's an interesting thing to see, like
putting yourself into what category you would be, Like I
would ideally be the MC, but if there was no
Alex and Stephen, maybe I would have to be the
Alex and Stevens.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I wish they couldn't. Couldn't they have walked away from
the other chickens a little bit. They felt so sad
that the other chickens had to watch that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It was that. Yeah, it's like doing it near the
other chickens.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Weird to each other.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So as I say so, I just think, like, none
of those people again jump off the screen for me.
There's only a few people this season that do. I look,
I think that again. Losing Jason here, you know, definitely
okay with it as we're getting down to the needy
greedy as that we're getting closer to emerge, Like I'm
happy we have the people left in the game that
we have left in the game, we have yet to lose,
(20:24):
like and maybe it's coming next week, who knows. But
like you know, on D season when like you know,
you lost Kelly, like around here. I think it'd probably
be maybe next episode. You know, we have yet to
lose anyone that I thought like, oh, could have potentially
won this game or been the season fifty choice or something,
you know, so you know, I'm excited for what we
have down the stretch. Like I said, you know, you know,
(20:45):
Shannon really like coming into her own Sage, coming into
her own Nate and Away coming into his own Shannon's.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Been found out, Shannon, Shannon. You know, Sage has really helped,
you know, I think been my my voice in all
of this. But she did a good thing. She stayed
quiet until other people kind of came to her with
(21:13):
the information, and then she got to be like, oh, like,
she got to look great, She got to she like
she she got confirmation that her name had been thrown
out there by Shannon. She got to look like the
good guy, being like, oh god, finally somebody sees it,
and without her being the one to throw her tribe
mate under the bus.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I will say, Sage right away, even five episodes in
the season, I can say, best facial expressions I've seen
on this show in a very long time.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I can't even remember the last person she Carolyn for sure, yep,
since Carolyn, Carolyn's obviously the goat. But something that she
does that Carolyn did, but I haven't seen it to
this degree, maybe even ever.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
But oh, look at the camera she does it.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
She plays to the camera with the person in the
frame when she went and gave I think it was Savannah.
I don't know, right, Sorry, the Shannon, the Sage, the Sophie,
the Sophie.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Come on, can we have a Denise or something? Anyway? So,
I mean, really, it's an absurd amount of s names.
Can we say that right? To Sophie's the.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Same when she was giving Shannon a hug, she made
the face she.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Did like Jim from the office if he was on
acid to the face and then and then you know,
in her interviews and just so she is just you know,
a wacky and wild character, loving her in that regard.
And and just to just to mention, like I don't
need everyone to be you know, a Shan level strategist
or a Russell Hans level villain or you know, a
(22:45):
Rick Devin's level newscaster for me to like them, Like,
there's a million ways you can jump off the screen
for me, And I can go, Oh, now, I get it,
and that's her reason, like you know, like she I mean,
and it's not just that she like you know, farms
and eats black heads or whatever she does. Like I
get it, Like she is someone who definitely leaps off
the screen in that way.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
To yes, it's uh, you know, also to to go
back to the the Nate and mc h you know,
we continue, you know, challenge, We continue to see that
Nate is really in charge here. He is, he is
playing hard, He's making calls left and right, and you know,
(23:25):
I thought this was a really well played thing to
to come together to make the best strategic decision to
help each other out here so that no matter what happens,
he made sure neither of them lost their vote. He
also kind of like was aware of his own limits, right.
He knew that MC was probably a little bit stronger
than him, a little bit could have had longer lasting potential here,
(23:48):
and so he like used it to his advantage to
have her help him succeed as much as he thought
he could. So I want to give Nate some credit.
I know that Nate's been like I still think though
that Nate's being said to have a fall from the top.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, get being set up to have
a fall is is good. It's interesting, you know what
I mean? It is way better than just being getting
picked off like we've seen the last.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And I think that Savannah is going to be the
benefactor of that fall from grace. I think that, you know,
it's almost like a little bit of a shield for
her Nate.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, okay, let's get to some of these questions for
Challengemaniacs dot com.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
This is from Trevor. It's sort of what we've been
talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Alternate wise, Trevor says MC has been great TV and
a comp beast compared to others that were cast and
MC being an extra. How the heck did this happen
from a casting perspective? How do these shows miss gems
while casting duds consistently? Okay, so I guess was MC
(24:47):
the other alternate? Do we know that it was MC
and Jason? I guess so, I'll be honest, I already
said about MC like comp best, sure, but like I
don't need you, like I mean, I think the Challenge
has this like comp East problem, Like I don't think
we need to like just go around casting comp beasts,
like I almost think like Survivor. Like, to me, what
I love about Survivor is seeing like a Chrissy Hoffback
(25:08):
winning communities, you know what I mean? Like, I like
seeing regular people win these kind of awkwardly positioned challenges
that especially down the stretch and stuff, and so, you know,
like we don't need you know, so, so to me,
that element of her is like fine personality wise, great TV.
I don't know, I wouldn't necessarily consider it a great team.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I like her a lot, like I think she's really likable.
I do like her. I just think we haven't gotten
to see enough because of the way that things have shaken.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Out, all right, Next question is a Duardo? Am I
the only one who can't keep track of who is who?
There are five women whose name starts with an S,
and two of them are named Sophie. He wrote, Sophia,
they're actually named Sophie. I've had that problem too, Eduardo,
And as I already naturally mentioned, I am totally with
you on this, and I definitely think that that is
something they should put more stock into. Yeah, I definitely do.
(25:59):
I think we could have saved one of these Sophies
for another season yea or or.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Just do the Devons thing. That's another thing.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
We only know these people as what you guys tell
us they are right.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So like Rizzo right, is that his real name is
his first name? Rizzo is last name?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
No, that's his first name.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, like I mean, could we not like sure, but
we don't have another Michelle. So my point is, like
mcf I, Sophie. Can't Sophie be sc you know, teach
your Facebook account? Some of these people, you know how
teachers don't want their students to be able to look
them up on Facebook, so they go by like their
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middle name instead of their last name or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You know what I mean? You know? And and what's
funny is.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Sage should be like such an interesting name that like
immediately know who Sage is. And somehow they put her
in the middle of so many s's that you're forgetting,
you know, same, you know what I mean? Okay, Uh,
Louis says, long wine incoming. Okay, this is an interesting one.
And I don't know if you heard this, but I'm
sure you've seen the social media discourse. Man, you need
(27:04):
to watch Australia Versus the World because we need your
take on whether Poverty's win counts.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
To me, it is one of the best gameplay, by
the way, spoiler alert. To me, it is one of the.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Best gameplays I've seen in a long long time, probably
since her. With that said, do you think Jeff Probes
at this point is hurting the franchise more than is
helping it Australia versus the world? Reminded me why I
like Survivor originally and the US version isn't cutting it.
He is too caught up on not having villains. And
also there are so many twists and turns that the
winner is mostly decided by luck other than good gameplay.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So, just to give some backstory to what Louis is
referring to, here's what happened.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
So on the Jeff Probes podcast on Fire, Jeff probesqueued
up a question for Jeremy, and this is like the
whole thing kind of felt like something Jeff just wanted
in the ether.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I honestly like either either they knew.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That this would cause the uproar, did or I have
no idea, But so he goes Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It's a good question.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I think it's a Jeremy he goes in the survivor community.
And this is how he framed it. He goes in
the survivor winners community, or however he said it. Do
people look at poverty as a two time winner? Do
they look at her Australia versus the World win as
her having two wins? Now, it should be mentioned it
is a very very condensed season. Okay, so I think
(28:19):
before anyone just goes, oh, just because it's not us,
it doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It was. It was a very shortened season. I think
it was sixty.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, but people have made a good point, which is
like where's the line? Right, Because if you're going to say,
like if you're gonna say like, oh, like the is
the new era doesn't count because there's a shorter season.
Jefflin insists that the new area doesn't matter that the
season is shorter than the original, you know, old school
seasons of Survivor, Like where's the line is it? Like
that doesn't count. But when you go a little more
than it counts, it doesn't. It's not a you know
(28:47):
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, well I just think I mean he's like, oh,
it's just as hard.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
It doesn't It shouldn't matter that it's shorter.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
About said he set him up for failure here because
he's damned if he does. Dan, if he doesn't, he asked,
he knew the survivor winner who has one win, and
so like, yeah, that person is probably definitely going to
take umbrage with somebody passing him in the winning standings
by winning a sixteen day season. That being said, I
think this is a layup of an answer here, Like
(29:14):
to I mean, Parverty's response was, you know, two straight men,
you know, taking away from something a woman did, shock
or blah blah blah. It's like you're just walking into it, right,
like you're walking into a hornets nest, whether you're right
or wrong. On one hand, is it okay to think
that a shortened season has a bit of an asterisk
or might not necessarily be as much of a win
(29:34):
as a thirty nine day season or even a twenty
six day season. Sure, do you probably have to think
about how you're going to answer it based on who
you are and who the person is. Probably also true,
and also what an absurd question for Jeff Probes to ask?
Like to me, I think it's one of those things
where it's like, I mean, everyone's gonna come out of
(29:55):
this with a bad taste in their mouth because of
who's not just talking about this but asking this quest question,
you know what I mean, Like Jeff at this point,
I think, and again it's it's almost like everyone's gonna
read through the t leaves and be like, oh, since
it's not his show, he's sort of he's probably bitter
about Survivor Australia taking these Survivor goats doing their own
thing with it, et cetera. I don't know how much
(30:15):
he has to do with that series or or what
they can put the kaibash on and whatnot. And it's
like to have this play out on your podcast and
not know that it's what everyone's going to be talking about,
and probably unanimously in a negative way.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I wonder if they consider cutting it out.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I'm glad they didn't, even if Jack say that poverty
would be like the best replacement if and when Jeff
decides to retire, and you know he listed reasons is
you know she's able to sort of get get people
to open up. She's like obviously as a great presence,
she's I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
She see I disagree because I think what's great about
her So Jeff's job and we talk about all the time,
especially mid challenge and things like that, which who knows
if that kind of stuff would continue without Jeff. I
have seen Australia enough to know that for some reason,
the Australian version of Jeff who reminds me of Jeff
in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, but he's not going to be the host anyway.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I'm just using it as a way of saying, like,
he does do the Jeff stick, he does the like
commentating through the challenge, the like producing in the moment
that is to me very singular to Jeff.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I can't see poverty doing that, right.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
There's a lot of people I can't see doing that
who I also think are great in a million different ways.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Lavin, for instance, does not do that, would not be
good at doing that, right, Whereas I do think like
Mark Long would be good at doing that.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Right. So my point about Parverty is she's like amazing
for a million different reasons. Right.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
She obviously just crushed it on traders, she just had
a book come out. She's become this like queer icon.
She's going around like hosting drag brunches. Left and right
like she's got her own thing going on that is
awesome for her and the type of player she was
on the challenge on Survivor, I don't know if that
makes her the best person to guide us through challenges
and produce in the moment the way that Jeff Probes
(31:55):
has set up Survivor to be run by you know,
so again the show would have to completely shift to
then being a Parvety style show or I don't know
that she's necessarily the best fit for that role. And
that's more of honestly a compliment to Parverty because I
(32:15):
think she's way more dynamic of a person and would
be way more dynamic of a host than like Survivor
kind of calls for Survivor calls for this like hybrid commentator,
slash co slash producer that I think is like a
very particular type of person, you know, And I don't
even know offhand who I think would be that in
the Survivor world. But anyway, I digress last question and
(32:38):
then we will get out of here. Diana says, who
do you think will win over the Yellow tribe now
blue if they go to tribal or if they switch
and have similar people on the tribe. I feel like
Sage's approach was more subtle and more genuine than Shannon's
when looking at the last two episodes.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, I think that at first Shan was really winning
people over. But you know again, like word got around,
and I do think if you're gonna take take the
hit on someone, it's gonna be the person on the
If we're doing like a you know us first them,
it's gonna be the person that's playing harder. You're gonna
go after all Right.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
We have to run because I have to go get
our kids, But we did want to get this up,
and I think there's gonna be a lot to like
going forward. I predicted episode six is the best episode
of the season so far. Seems like we're getting some
sort of a realignment. Whether it's a merge or emergatory
or something, we're getting something so that should be interesting
to see.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
We look forward to that. Uh, do you have a.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Common hy Jeff, stay tuned for the second half of
this season.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Do you have any sort of predictions, whether it is
who gets kicked off the island or otherwise.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
M Yeah, again, I think I think we're gonna have
like the downfall of the people who have seemed to
be in control here. I think, you know, when you
get when it seems so us first them, I think
people are gonna gonna take out the heads here of
the snake.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So see, I'm doing the math I think we use
in we lose another Yellow I think we're losing Sophie
with an e. That's because again reading into how little
we've seen her, and she does make sense as getting
rid of another number on the Yellow tribe, which again
doesn't really go into my interesting episode theory. What would
be more interesting, obviously, is if we end up get
(34:20):
you know, losing a Sage or a Shannon or something
like that, or we get a flip and we finally
lose somebody from the Red tribe or the Juwan and
Savannah thing comes to a head. I'm convinced Savannah is
the star of in one of the stars of the season,
whether she wins or not. So I'm kind of like,
don't think Juwan is winning that one. I also do
think Juwan could maybe persist, and maybe that just goes
season long kind of thing. We have been seeing so
(34:42):
much of him. But I just, you know, I just
for whatever reason you know the first red person. I
think we're gonna lose. I just feel like it's gonna
be Nate. I don't know why I get. I get
sort of mid season exit vies from Nate. So I'm
gonna say we lose either Sophie or Nate next episode. Okay,
(35:03):
that's what I'm going Got anything.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You want to Gay? Yeah, you said you took my pick.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You're going Nate.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I'm going Nate.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right, You're going Nate.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
So I'll go with Sophie with an e going home
next week, hopefully with an interesting episode, hopefully the Chicken
Sea another day in the Sun, and if anyone ends
up having a Survivor costume for Halloween, send it our way,
Send it our way.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And I don't know why they haven't started promoting it yet.
I guess I do know why they have an event
every week. That's fine, but I will say here for
the first time on the podcast, because I do want
people to start putting another calendar. I have set up
a Survivor Night with the Philadelphia seventy six ers for
Bryce and Wendell that will be on Tuesday, November twenty fifth,
the day before they have their event in Philadelphia, So
(35:50):
ay go to their event. They're doing party on the
twenty six as normal, but then on the twenty fifth,
at some point they'll be posting a ticket link and
you'll be able to go to the Sixers game. And
if you've ever been to the six Nights that we do,
it's gonna be very similar, except it's gonna be all
Survivor people, So Bryce and Wendell and Kyle and I
forget who I think Jervis is on there, a couple
other people, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's gonna be like, you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Ten Survivor people at the sixer game doing cool stuff.
So anyway, I'll look for that and maybe if you
want to go, emailed me and I'll send you the
link now because they're dragging their feet a little bit.
But anyway, so Challenge meaning podcast at GMA dot com
put Survivor Sixers Night in the subject. We're very excited
about that, but again, they have a lot of events,
so they haven't necessarily posted it yet, but that will
(36:31):
be happening. And I know people make plans and you
got to hear about this stuff. So this is me
telling you guys, if you like survivor enough you probably
care about that, so anyway. November twenty fifth, Philadelphia, seventy
six Survivor Night, Bye Bye,
What's up? Everybody? Happy Friday?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here, Scott Lindsay back to breakdown episode five of Survivor
season forty nine.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Who boy, did this get good?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Not like I predicted this exactly last week, although I
will say there was some good, you know, character development
from some of the other supporting characters.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But we did, I believe see who we thought was
going to go home? Go home? Mister?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Which outcome did you think was more unpredictable the Knicks
game that we watched straight before we went to the
Knicks game that night, or the Survivor episode?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I mean a basketball game has one of two
potential outcomes, right, and these are also two good teams.
So literally, if the Knicks or the Cavaliers won, I
wouldn't have been surprised at all. I guess the Knicks
were a slight underdog going into the game and one,
so I guess that's somewhat unpredictable. But Survivor obviously at
this point has what twelve people that could potentially go home.
(01:00):
I would have ranked this guy first as and I
think I did last week on the podcast is who
I thought would go home? And uh and look here's
what I'll say Okay, I'll try it up to a
positive spin, so I'm not negative Nate over here on
the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I know I haven't been very high on this season.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I will say he was probably and again I want
to practice this probably a sweetheart of a guy. They
obviously saw something from him in casting which led them
to put him on the initial I don't know wide list,
but there was also probably something about him.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That made him the initial alternate.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I feel like that instinct, whoever had it, probably
the right instinct.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Fair to say, because so many alternates have ended up
on the cast doing really well and being great characters.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Sure I would and yes, and I would say was.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
An alternate and Davy is reality gold?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All right, then I'll then I'll I'll say it the
way I want to say it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I truly don't even understand what they could have gotten
from this guy that made want to put him on
the show at all. Like he seemed like a pretty
soft spoken, timid guy who you know, he just like
every time they showed him, he looked fairly and I know,
obviously everyone's sleepy on the island, but it looked very
sleepy and not in a kind of fun way. He
(02:16):
was kind of just you know, felt like he was
there and look again, probably a great guy to play
Pokemon go with, probably a hell of a guy to
have it a trivia night. I'm sure he's you know,
a great companion and compatriot you know who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But I'm just saying as far as like on the.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Show called Survivor, where you know it's about backstabbing and
lying and cheating and fighting for your life and trying
to find fun ways, I mean even you know, in
this episode, I think, and that's why I said I'm
not throwing the entire episode away, because we had a
predictable tribal here and a predictable cast off. You know,
you got little glimpses of people's gameplay, of people's personalities. Obviously,
(02:56):
we saw, you know, the Sage and Shannon feud continue
to develop. We saw Joan continue to get under Savannah's
skin with the taking of her belongings.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And we saw what I.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Thought was a pretty interesting and savvy move by Juan
with the rock thing he did, and then also Nate
with what he did with MC during the during the
excursion there with sort of you know, making sure that
neither of them lost their vote, but that MC did
not get the advantage. So look, these are things that
no offense. I didn't see even a little bit of
(03:28):
this from Jason, and not to say he had a
lot of cards in his hand, but you really saw him.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean, look like, here's an example.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
On the way out the door, he doesn't play the
shot in the dark, and you know he's voting riz God,
and it's like we saw kind of a glimpse of them,
you know, showing, you know, trying to make him believe
that that was the case. And you know, obviously they
they don't show us too much of it because they
don't want us to know he bought it hook line
and Sinker, because you know, as is made clear by
(03:58):
them showing us Savannah just putting a j and then
wanting us to think, oh, could she have been writing Juan,
they don't want us to know that Jason bought that
hook line and Sicker. I'm just how could anyone in
his position, the one remaining Team Yellow cast member here
not play their shot in the dark, regardless of how
(04:19):
convincing of a spiel you got from everyone else. I mean,
if everyone is telling you, hey, we're all throwing them
on Riz go with us. Then great, worst case scenario,
you don't use your vote, but they were all telling
the truth and they you vote out Riz anyway, or
or you play your shot in the dark and you
at least give yourself a puncher's chance at sticking around.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I mean, yeah, I don't see the downside to playing
your shot in the dark here. You know, you're the
last person right, and you know, unless you can pull
something off here, you don't know if you did or not,
probably not, and your one vote, you know it's either
gonna be you know. It wasn't like he was like
trying to wrangle you know, a few specific people to
(05:02):
go against Rizzo. It would have been like everybody deciding
to be in on that or not. Right, So it's
not like his like he they needed his vote to
make a move of some sort. Right, It doesn't make
It doesn't make sense me not to risk your vote here.
And it's not like anyone would fault you for playing
your shot in the dark here. It's not like that
would ruin trust moving forward. No one would hold you
(05:24):
accountable for that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Let me use this opportunity to, you know, shine a
light on a previous alternate that you know, got to
play eventually, which is Rachel. She actually used her shot
in the dark, not even to save herself, but as
like a strategic move, you know what I mean, Like
the shot in the dark is you get to use
it once you don't get a vote, it could potentially
(05:46):
save you. Let's be honest, did the ten seasons they've
had it? It's only even hit twice, so the odds
are low whatever, but at least you get a moment
out of it. And I think it's like, it's this
thing everyone kind of covets. It's not even like an
idol that you can save to use the perfect time.
Like I feel like so many people clutch this thing
to their person, you know, metaphorically, because it's I don't
(06:07):
even know if it's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I guess it is like a is it a thing
you put in there? I forget either way.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I like the fact that you would see people who
are clearly on the bottom not using it, like I
just don't.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I don't get it at all. And so that's kind
of a microcosmo.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
What my thoughts are on Jason is that, like, look,
I get we didn't see the most of him this season,
probably because he only makes it five episodes, but just
even when I saw him in the background of scenes
and shots and things like that, he just felt so
kind of complacent. And look, you know, he wasn't alternate.
He was probably the first person to ever mention it
on camera.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Jeff.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I listened to the Jeff podcast. Jeff thought it was
like cool that he broke the fourth wall, asked if
he could say that, and that that did kind of
become a part of his narrative.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But to me, it did in like a bad way.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It's like, oh, this guy's playing with house money and
he even says it to Jeff on his way out.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You know, it was a heartwarming thing.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, Yeah, it was nice to see that he was
able to have perspective so soon. You know, usually, I'm
sure people go through the range of emotions of grief,
you know, anger, an.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Alternate, right, Like his whiz way was ten days longer
than I thought I'd be here, Jeff, and it's like, yeah,
you look like somebody who was just happy to be there.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, I really disagree with you. I do. I think
that he got really unlucky, just like Matt did with
the tribe swap. He was on a tribe that was
doing amazingly. He had great relationships on that tribe, and
then he just happened to get stuck being swapped in
that way where he was in a minority. And then
(07:40):
not only that he was in a minority, but he
was able to outlast the only other person right there.
So he's like last man standing and sort of like,
you know, he did his best. I thought he did
the right thing. Like he was an alarmist. He didn't
try to like shake things up too much because people
already saw him as a gamer, right, so if he
had played his hand too hard, if he had gone
(08:00):
after someone too hard, I think they would have been
even more incentivized to go after him and say, look, like,
you know, let's just do this straightforward vote. This guy's
obviously a really hard player. We don't want him in
the game. So I think he did the right thing
by just being really friendly, easy to be around, likable,
like trying to make trying to make something happen, but
not pushing too hard. And so you know, I think
(08:22):
his mistake is not playing the show on the dark.
But I actually I don't see this at all. I
think he played. I think he was playing as well
as he could have been playing, and he just got
really unlucky here.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
All right, Well, I'm gonna this is, I guess a
backhanded compliment to say, because look, he's just someone who
I have zero interest in seeing play again again. Look
if I see him at a party, I'm sure, sweetheart. Fine, great, Okay,
here's my way of spinning it positively. I'm looking at
this tribe, the Heena tribe, which again we didn't see
so much of them because as you said, they went
on a run and they will at least they didn't
(08:55):
go on the blue like losing streak. But I'm looking
at this tribe right, and I have them in front
of me and on this tree because I want I'm
trying to figure out is the Jason thing something that
is is coupled with A he obviously goes out in
episode five, and B he's just on the Yellow tribe
we don't even know well at all because of Blue
taking up so much of the first three episodes camera time.
(09:15):
But I'm looking at it and I'm thinking of, is
this Heena tribe for all their success in the first
few challenges, like to me, they they are the least
sort of impressive tribe to me personality.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Wise that I can remember. I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Here we have Matt, who obviously went home last week,
and you know, fine, but okay, nothing I was really
too impressed by. We have Jason, I've talked at link
about him, and then we have someone who you know,
she got a few confessionals this episode, but I have
questioned whether that's yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Said to Sophie the least of any player up to
this point. And I don't necessarily think I think this
episode changed that.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Sophie too got a couple, but again they weren't necessarily
character building moment once.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It was like a moment giving her an opportunity to speak.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, she was on camera, which again I always say that,
like you know, when you see people when it's not
necessarily them talking about them, but them talking about other actions,
that's the sign of Hey, the camera likes.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Them, the editors like them, We're supposed to like them.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I get it, fine, I get it fine. I get
that she also shares a name with clearly someone who's
been the star of the season, Sophie, who I don't
know if you saw a very funny tweet somebody mentioned
somebody said to me that Sophie looks like Adam Sandler.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Now I can't get out of my head.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And then Sophie retweeted it and said, that's that's my
dad or something. Now that I see it, I can't
see it, I said. She reminded me of Alanis morisseet.
So that's what I'm going with, is like nineties Alanis
is what I'm going with with Sophie.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But but but I see the sad Man two. Okay,
but we're going back to this yellow tribe.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Sophie audition to play Adam Sandler's.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Son to you with the humble brags, the nixt to.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And Sophie could could be really good.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Maybe she could play his mom and Brock and play
the son, and well, I guess she plays daughter. I
guess at this point, although I don't know if you
know this, Adam Sandler famously now casts his daughters in
almost everything.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Did you know that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, okay, let me run through this tribe. Okay, So
we've got Sophie, who have, at the very least you
can agree with me, has not been shown. And I
get that recently we have the Genevieve example, because I
was someone who agreed with the Internet that like, for
the first few episodes, I didn't know who Genevieve was,
and clearly she made such a big dent that she's
back for season fifty. Almost won the game. I get it, okay,
(11:34):
But the other members of this tribe who are still
in the game, other than Sophie, who I think we
can all agree has been under edited here. Look, I
like MC, She's very likable. I think that her you know,
her story in this episode about being muscular growing up
and learning to love it later in life, Like, I
love that as a backstory and fine as a player
(11:57):
so far kind of not necessar early my style of player. Uh, Christina,
Christina as well, I you know, again the backstory, the
stuff heartwarming as well. And again I do chalk some
of this up to them not being you know, having
their backs against the wall. We haven't necessarily seen them
play per se, but even just on a character level,
(12:18):
they seem like just like find people who like, if
I was their friend, I'd be happy they get to
play Survivor. But as a viewer, I'm like, why did
you necessarily pick this person?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's just so far from me.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Also, I'm a little judgmental of anyone who like is
fooled by Shannon's spell of seeming like super super into
whatever you care about.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I would power rank the number one best personality on
this tribe so far, uh or the initial yellow tribe
as Steven And I still think Stephen to me is
like a little cookie cutter.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
But again, who he reminds me of?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Who does he remind you of?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Okay? DJ Tanner's boyfriend Steve.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh, okay, Steve, yeah, famously did you know this speaking
voice of Aladdin in uh In in Aladdin?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Did you know that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I did? Did you see did you do? You see it?
A little bit?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You know, I'm looking at his cast photo right now.
Let me look at this something I'm gonna I had
a bit of a man crush on Steve from Full House.
I will say I see it a little bit with
this smile. I do not necessarily well, you know what,
I see it him older in life.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So if you've gotten him older in life.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Which I don't think I've seen Steve and uh, well,
I guess Steve is not as real. Well, I said,
Steve Hale breaks up a daily Okay. What's his real
name though? Oh, Scott, his name is Scott Okay, so
Scott Winger. He does kind of look like him later
in life on Full House, though, I don't you know
it even then, but he had the different hair.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, I'll give it to you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I will give it to you Steve from Full House
aka Scott Winger. Okay, but I put him number one,
and I still too, if I'm being honest. He's just
kind of like a likable, happy to be their guy
as of now. I will say though, in this episode,
the stuff with him and Alex in the Chicken I
thought was particularly interesting and entertaining, and I'm kind of
(14:09):
glad that entertaining.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, it's really interesting. I feel like, even for someone
like you who is such a meat eater, I feel
like it made you kind of question what we all
do on a daily basis. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, no, okay, so here I mean, I was having a.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Hard time as someone who's like fluctuated as a vegetarian
throughout my life. It it was. It brings up all
of the thoughts that I can.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Let me say it, okay, so I can continue to
compartmentalize and I'm able to separate the Okay, but but
but let me say this. This is what I love
about Survivor, And this is what I love about even
if it makes me feel bad.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
The chicken dilemma on Survivor.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Is that it does, like you say, make you feel
awful and questioned eating meat in real life. To me,
it puts things in perspective about like survival and eating
meat as sustenance in this that. And then obviously you
have these two guys, like Alex said, he lives his
high rise apartment eating door dash and here he is
now having to ring the neck of a chicken, which
(15:10):
I know there's many ways to kill a chicken. I
don't know that that's the way I would have picked.
But maybe they didn't have MACHETI I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Know either way.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I can tell you firstthand that with all the meat
I eat, either, there's no way I could do that,
like I mean, And and if I.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Be one of those women that walked away, one.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Hundred percent, I'm the woman who walks away and and
look and and could I maybe in dire straits on
an island, starving. I'm sure there are things that come
out of you that you do not even know what
come that you could do. But here, as I sit
in our relatively high rise apartment, having eaten door dash
fairly recently, I I, yeah, no, I could not do that.
(15:45):
I I don't. I mean, look, I can step on
a bug. I don't, but I don't, you know, I
definitely don't. Uh, and not to mention. Let me just
say this, the killing of it is part one, right, Oh?
I am, I am also, I am, I am a
I am. I have a bit of a weak's stomach
when it comes to things like that, like the idea
of do.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
You imagine having to take every feather out of a
lifeless body.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Dude, the feathering, the skinning of this and that, the
removing of the innerds and whatever and this and that whatever,
because like again, this is other stuff that like that
the average person is not connected to. And I'm well
aware of this and it helps me compartmentalize and all
the things is that there are professional people who go
and remove all that stuff and then make food look
(16:30):
like for the most part, food Like there's a couple
foods that kind of look like food animals, like you know,
chicken wings.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's so hard for us to like be honest, with
ourselves about like just to look at to see to
do ourselves, and like maybe we shouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I don't know about that because I mean, like that's
like saying, like, for instance, when you go to the doctor,
the fact that they distract a kid while they're giving
him a shot is to say, oh, if you really
can't just take the shot on the chin and you
have to be distracted, you shouldn't get the shot, you know.
I mean like there's things in life that we've figured
out ways to you know, endure, you know, right, Like
it does mean that it's right or wrong. I will say,
(17:07):
it does make it a lot easier to compartmentalize it, right,
I will. When we were in Boston recently, and I
believe we had three or four lobster roles in a
two day period. Right, some of these places will have
like live lobsters like in the in the thing, like
in the you know, the tank whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Right, m hmm.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And I thought to myself like, oh, like, you know,
this is kind of making me feel a little bit
bad about eating it, okay, but I was still able
to eat it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Then there's the like could I bring a lobster home?
Put it in boiling water and listen to it shriek
and scream until it stopped, and then eat that. I
don't think I could do that.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You know. That's the bridge too far for me. You know.
That's why I'm not like a huge soft shell crab guy.
Like soft shell crab is just like basically like this
is a crab. You're eating the whole thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Like, But yeah, yeah, I don't want to show Brock that.
I think Brock will never eat meet again if he
watches that scene.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, please don't. But what I'll say is what I'll
say is Okay, what I'll say is.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I will say that what I like about Survivor and
I like about this moral dilemma is that obviously, on
every season, I'd imagine you have a like a variety
of people who a have no qualms with, you know,
eating a chicken and killing a chicken and doing all
the stuff, and people who have hunted and do that.
You have people who are willing to do it but
(18:34):
obviously prefer not to, like we just saw with.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Alex and Steven.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And then you have people who probably would do it
at no cost, they are disagree with it, they want
to free the chickens, et cetera. And I think that's
an interesting dilemma to have and people having to come
to terms with it and whatnot. And we've seen seasons
where people freed the chickens or refuse to let everybody
eat the chickens. In this episode, you had people who
just walked away and couldn't be there for it morally,
(18:58):
but they were happy to eat the chicken after the
fact and enjoyed that. And that's a bit of a
microcosm of what life is, right Like, most people are
like you know MC and Christina who walk away and
will happily eat it after the fact, but don't want
to be there for the killing. That's who I am,
right And then because you don't have a Keith Nail
on the tribe who's just willing to, you know, kill
(19:19):
that thing and put it on the beach. And I
know Keith Naiale did that because listening to the podcast,
Jeremy mentioned that him and Keith Nail were the people
who killed the chicken when they were on their tribe
or whatever. They didn't have that person there, So it
had to be middle category of people who desperately, desperately
didn't want to do it but reluctantly did it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And Alex and Stephens.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So I think that's an interesting thing to see, like
putting yourself into what category you would be, Like I
would ideally be the MC, but if there was no
Alex and Stephen, maybe I would have to be the
Alex and Stevens.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I wish they couldn't. Couldn't they have walked away from
the other chickens a little bit. They felt so sad
that the other chickens had to watch that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It was that. Yeah, it's like doing it near the
other chickens.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Weird to each other.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So as I say so, I just think, like, none
of those people again jump off the screen for me.
There's only a few people this season that do. I look,
I think that again. Losing Jason here, you know, definitely
okay with it as we're getting down to the needy
greedy as that we're getting closer to emerge, Like I'm
happy we have the people left in the game that
we have left in the game, we have yet to lose,
(20:24):
like and maybe it's coming next week, who knows. But
like you know, on D season when like you know,
you lost Kelly, like around here. I think it'd probably
be maybe next episode. You know, we have yet to
lose anyone that I thought like, oh, could have potentially
won this game or been the season fifty choice or something,
you know, so you know, I'm excited for what we
have down the stretch. Like I said, you know, you know,
(20:45):
Shannon really like coming into her own Sage, coming into
her own Nate and Away coming into his own Shannon's.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Been found out, Shannon, Shannon. You know, Sage has really helped,
you know, I think been my my voice in all
of this. But she did a good thing. She stayed
quiet until other people kind of came to her with
(21:13):
the information, and then she got to be like, oh, like,
she got to look great, She got to she like
she she got confirmation that her name had been thrown
out there by Shannon. She got to look like the
good guy, being like, oh god, finally somebody sees it,
and without her being the one to throw her tribe
mate under the bus.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I will say, Sage right away, even five episodes in
the season, I can say, best facial expressions I've seen
on this show in a very long time.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I can't even remember the last person she Carolyn for sure, yep,
since Carolyn, Carolyn's obviously the goat. But something that she
does that Carolyn did, but I haven't seen it to
this degree, maybe even ever.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
But oh, look at the camera she does it.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
She plays to the camera with the person in the
frame when she went and gave I think it was Savannah.
I don't know, right, Sorry, the Shannon, the Sage, the Sophie,
the Sophie.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Come on, can we have a Denise or something? Anyway? So,
I mean, really, it's an absurd amount of s names.
Can we say that right? To Sophie's the.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Same when she was giving Shannon a hug, she made
the face she.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Did like Jim from the office if he was on
acid to the face and then and then you know,
in her interviews and just so she is just you know,
a wacky and wild character, loving her in that regard.
And and just to just to mention, like I don't
need everyone to be you know, a Shan level strategist
or a Russell Hans level villain or you know, a
(22:45):
Rick Devin's level newscaster for me to like them, Like,
there's a million ways you can jump off the screen
for me, And I can go, Oh, now, I get it,
and that's her reason, like you know, like she I mean,
and it's not just that she like you know, farms
and eats black heads or whatever she does. Like I
get it, Like she is someone who definitely leaps off
the screen in that way.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
To yes, it's uh, you know, also to to go
back to the the Nate and mc h you know,
we continue, you know, challenge, We continue to see that
Nate is really in charge here. He is, he is
playing hard, He's making calls left and right, and you know,
(23:25):
I thought this was a really well played thing to
to come together to make the best strategic decision to
help each other out here so that no matter what happens,
he made sure neither of them lost their vote. He
also kind of like was aware of his own limits, right.
He knew that MC was probably a little bit stronger
than him, a little bit could have had longer lasting potential here,
(23:48):
and so he like used it to his advantage to
have her help him succeed as much as he thought
he could. So I want to give Nate some credit.
I know that Nate's been like I still think though
that Nate's being said to have a fall from the top.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, get being set up to have
a fall is is good. It's interesting, you know what
I mean? It is way better than just being getting
picked off like we've seen the last.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And I think that Savannah is going to be the
benefactor of that fall from grace. I think that, you know,
it's almost like a little bit of a shield for
her Nate.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, okay, let's get to some of these questions for
Challengemaniacs dot com.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
This is from Trevor. It's sort of what we've been
talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Alternate wise, Trevor says MC has been great TV and
a comp beast compared to others that were cast and
MC being an extra. How the heck did this happen
from a casting perspective? How do these shows miss gems
while casting duds consistently? Okay, so I guess was MC
(24:47):
the other alternate? Do we know that it was MC
and Jason? I guess so, I'll be honest, I already
said about MC like comp best, sure, but like I
don't need you, like I mean, I think the Challenge
has this like comp East problem, Like I don't think
we need to like just go around casting comp beasts,
like I almost think like Survivor. Like, to me, what
I love about Survivor is seeing like a Chrissy Hoffback
(25:08):
winning communities, you know what I mean? Like, I like
seeing regular people win these kind of awkwardly positioned challenges
that especially down the stretch and stuff, and so, you know,
like we don't need you know, so, so to me,
that element of her is like fine personality wise, great TV.
I don't know, I wouldn't necessarily consider it a great team.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I like her a lot, like I think she's really likable.
I do like her. I just think we haven't gotten
to see enough because of the way that things have shaken.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Out, all right, Next question is a Duardo? Am I
the only one who can't keep track of who is who?
There are five women whose name starts with an S,
and two of them are named Sophie. He wrote, Sophia,
they're actually named Sophie. I've had that problem too, Eduardo,
And as I already naturally mentioned, I am totally with
you on this, and I definitely think that that is
something they should put more stock into. Yeah, I definitely do.
(25:59):
I think we could have saved one of these Sophies
for another season yea or or.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Just do the Devons thing. That's another thing.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
We only know these people as what you guys tell
us they are right.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So like Rizzo right, is that his real name is
his first name? Rizzo is last name?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
No, that's his first name.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, like I mean, could we not like sure, but
we don't have another Michelle. So my point is, like
mcf I, Sophie. Can't Sophie be sc you know, teach
your Facebook account? Some of these people, you know how
teachers don't want their students to be able to look
them up on Facebook, so they go by like their
(26:38):
middle name instead of their last name or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You know what I mean? You know? And and what's
funny is.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Sage should be like such an interesting name that like
immediately know who Sage is. And somehow they put her
in the middle of so many s's that you're forgetting,
you know, same, you know what I mean? Okay, Uh,
Louis says, long wine incoming. Okay, this is an interesting one.
And I don't know if you heard this, but I'm
sure you've seen the social media discourse. Man, you need
(27:04):
to watch Australia Versus the World because we need your
take on whether Poverty's win counts.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
To me, it is one of the best gameplay, by
the way, spoiler alert. To me, it is one of the.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Best gameplays I've seen in a long long time, probably
since her. With that said, do you think Jeff Probes
at this point is hurting the franchise more than is
helping it Australia versus the world? Reminded me why I
like Survivor originally and the US version isn't cutting it.
He is too caught up on not having villains. And
also there are so many twists and turns that the
winner is mostly decided by luck other than good gameplay.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So, just to give some backstory to what Louis is
referring to, here's what happened.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
So on the Jeff Probes podcast on Fire, Jeff probesqueued
up a question for Jeremy, and this is like the
whole thing kind of felt like something Jeff just wanted
in the ether.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I honestly like either either they knew.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That this would cause the uproar, did or I have
no idea, But so he goes Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It's a good question.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I think it's a Jeremy he goes in the survivor community.
And this is how he framed it. He goes in
the survivor winners community, or however he said it. Do
people look at poverty as a two time winner? Do
they look at her Australia versus the World win as
her having two wins? Now, it should be mentioned it
is a very very condensed season. Okay, so I think
(28:19):
before anyone just goes, oh, just because it's not us,
it doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It was. It was a very shortened season. I think
it was sixty.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, but people have made a good point, which is
like where's the line? Right, Because if you're going to say,
like if you're gonna say like, oh, like the is
the new era doesn't count because there's a shorter season.
Jefflin insists that the new area doesn't matter that the
season is shorter than the original, you know, old school
seasons of Survivor, Like where's the line is it? Like
that doesn't count. But when you go a little more
than it counts, it doesn't. It's not a you know
(28:47):
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, well I just think I mean he's like, oh,
it's just as hard.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
It doesn't It shouldn't matter that it's shorter.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
About said he set him up for failure here because
he's damned if he does. Dan, if he doesn't, he asked,
he knew the survivor winner who has one win, and
so like, yeah, that person is probably definitely going to
take umbrage with somebody passing him in the winning standings
by winning a sixteen day season. That being said, I
think this is a layup of an answer here, Like
(29:14):
to I mean, Parverty's response was, you know, two straight men,
you know, taking away from something a woman did, shock
or blah blah blah. It's like you're just walking into it, right,
like you're walking into a hornets nest, whether you're right
or wrong. On one hand, is it okay to think
that a shortened season has a bit of an asterisk
or might not necessarily be as much of a win
(29:34):
as a thirty nine day season or even a twenty
six day season. Sure, do you probably have to think
about how you're going to answer it based on who
you are and who the person is. Probably also true,
and also what an absurd question for Jeff Probes to ask?
Like to me, I think it's one of those things
where it's like, I mean, everyone's gonna come out of
(29:55):
this with a bad taste in their mouth because of
who's not just talking about this but asking this quest question,
you know what I mean, Like Jeff at this point,
I think, and again it's it's almost like everyone's gonna
read through the t leaves and be like, oh, since
it's not his show, he's sort of he's probably bitter
about Survivor Australia taking these Survivor goats doing their own
thing with it, et cetera. I don't know how much
(30:15):
he has to do with that series or or what
they can put the kaibash on and whatnot. And it's
like to have this play out on your podcast and
not know that it's what everyone's going to be talking about,
and probably unanimously in a negative way.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I wonder if they consider cutting it out.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I'm glad they didn't, even if Jack say that poverty
would be like the best replacement if and when Jeff
decides to retire, and you know he listed reasons is
you know she's able to sort of get get people
to open up. She's like obviously as a great presence,
she's I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
She see I disagree because I think what's great about
her So Jeff's job and we talk about all the time,
especially mid challenge and things like that, which who knows
if that kind of stuff would continue without Jeff. I
have seen Australia enough to know that for some reason,
the Australian version of Jeff who reminds me of Jeff
in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, but he's not going to be the host anyway.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I'm just using it as a way of saying, like,
he does do the Jeff stick, he does the like
commentating through the challenge, the like producing in the moment
that is to me very singular to Jeff.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I can't see poverty doing that, right.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
There's a lot of people I can't see doing that
who I also think are great in a million different ways.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Lavin, for instance, does not do that, would not be
good at doing that, right, Whereas I do think like
Mark Long would be good at doing that.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Right. So my point about Parverty is she's like amazing
for a million different reasons. Right.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
She obviously just crushed it on traders, she just had
a book come out. She's become this like queer icon.
She's going around like hosting drag brunches. Left and right
like she's got her own thing going on that is
awesome for her and the type of player she was
on the challenge on Survivor, I don't know if that
makes her the best person to guide us through challenges
and produce in the moment the way that Jeff Probes
(31:55):
has set up Survivor to be run by you know,
so again the show would have to completely shift to
then being a Parvety style show or I don't know
that she's necessarily the best fit for that role. And
that's more of honestly a compliment to Parverty because I
(32:15):
think she's way more dynamic of a person and would
be way more dynamic of a host than like Survivor
kind of calls for Survivor calls for this like hybrid commentator,
slash co slash producer that I think is like a
very particular type of person, you know, And I don't
even know offhand who I think would be that in
the Survivor world. But anyway, I digress last question and
(32:38):
then we will get out of here. Diana says, who
do you think will win over the Yellow tribe now
blue if they go to tribal or if they switch
and have similar people on the tribe. I feel like
Sage's approach was more subtle and more genuine than Shannon's
when looking at the last two episodes.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, I think that at first Shan was really winning
people over. But you know again, like word got around,
and I do think if you're gonna take take the
hit on someone, it's gonna be the person on the
If we're doing like a you know us first them,
it's gonna be the person that's playing harder. You're gonna
go after all Right.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
We have to run because I have to go get
our kids, But we did want to get this up,
and I think there's gonna be a lot to like
going forward. I predicted episode six is the best episode
of the season so far. Seems like we're getting some
sort of a realignment. Whether it's a merge or emergatory
or something, we're getting something so that should be interesting
to see.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
We look forward to that. Uh, do you have a.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Common hy Jeff, stay tuned for the second half of
this season.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Do you have any sort of predictions, whether it is
who gets kicked off the island or otherwise.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
M Yeah, again, I think I think we're gonna have
like the downfall of the people who have seemed to
be in control here. I think, you know, when you
get when it seems so us first them, I think
people are gonna gonna take out the heads here of
the snake.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So see, I'm doing the math I think we use
in we lose another Yellow I think we're losing Sophie
with an e. That's because again reading into how little
we've seen her, and she does make sense as getting
rid of another number on the Yellow tribe, which again
doesn't really go into my interesting episode theory. What would
be more interesting, obviously, is if we end up get
(34:20):
you know, losing a Sage or a Shannon or something
like that, or we get a flip and we finally
lose somebody from the Red tribe or the Juwan and
Savannah thing comes to a head. I'm convinced Savannah is
the star of in one of the stars of the season,
whether she wins or not. So I'm kind of like,
don't think Juwan is winning that one. I also do
think Juwan could maybe persist, and maybe that just goes
season long kind of thing. We have been seeing so
(34:42):
much of him. But I just, you know, I just
for whatever reason you know the first red person. I
think we're gonna lose. I just feel like it's gonna
be Nate. I don't know why I get. I get
sort of mid season exit vies from Nate. So I'm
gonna say we lose either Sophie or Nate next episode. Okay,
(35:03):
that's what I'm going Got anything.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You want to Gay? Yeah, you said you took my pick.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You're going Nate.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I'm going Nate.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right, You're going Nate.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
So I'll go with Sophie with an e going home
next week, hopefully with an interesting episode, hopefully the Chicken
Sea another day in the Sun, and if anyone ends
up having a Survivor costume for Halloween, send it our way,
Send it our way.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And I don't know why they haven't started promoting it yet.
I guess I do know why they have an event
every week. That's fine, but I will say here for
the first time on the podcast, because I do want
people to start putting another calendar. I have set up
a Survivor Night with the Philadelphia seventy six ers for
Bryce and Wendell that will be on Tuesday, November twenty fifth,
the day before they have their event in Philadelphia, So
(35:50):
ay go to their event. They're doing party on the
twenty six as normal, but then on the twenty fifth,
at some point they'll be posting a ticket link and
you'll be able to go to the Sixers game. And
if you've ever been to the six Nights that we do,
it's gonna be very similar, except it's gonna be all
Survivor people, So Bryce and Wendell and Kyle and I
forget who I think Jervis is on there, a couple
other people, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's gonna be like, you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Ten Survivor people at the sixer game doing cool stuff.
So anyway, I'll look for that and maybe if you
want to go, emailed me and I'll send you the
link now because they're dragging their feet a little bit.
But anyway, so Challenge meaning podcast at GMA dot com
put Survivor Sixers Night in the subject. We're very excited
about that, but again, they have a lot of events,
so they haven't necessarily posted it yet, but that will
(36:31):
be happening. And I know people make plans and you
got to hear about this stuff. So this is me
telling you guys, if you like survivor enough you probably
care about that, so anyway. November twenty fifth, Philadelphia, seventy
six Survivor Night, Bye Bye,
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