November 6, 2025 • 54 mins
Discover how Lisa and Scott Brearley built a love rooted in authenticity, healing, and growth in this heartwarming conversation with Betsy Wurzel.
In this inspiring episode of Chatting with Betsy, host Betsy Wurzel welcomes Lisa and Scott Brearley, co-hosts of the Soulmates and Suitcases Podcast, for a powerful discussion about love, healing, and living with intention. Lisa and Scott share how they met during a seven-day self-development course and built a partnership centered on authenticity, communication, and personal growth. They reveal how giving your partner space for reflection and balance creates a foundation for true emotional connection.
They also discuss their inspiring books:
📘 My Perfect Storm — by Scott Brearley
📗 A Year of Love and Six Months of Love — by Lisa Brearley
📙 I Know – Choices About Nutrition — Lisa’s children’s book The couple explains how their podcast, Soulmates and Suitcases, launched in January 2025, offering heartfelt stories that inspire healing and connection.
Betsy shares how much she enjoyed being a guest on their show and encourages listeners to check it out.
👉 Visit https://forwardwalkingchoices.com to learn more about their coaching, books, and podcast.
📘 Explore their eBooks here: https://payhip.com/LisaScottBrearleyAuthors 💡 From Passionate World Talk Radio Network — where real conversations matter. Stay informed, stay inspired, and help us keep independent voices alive at www.passionateworldtalkradio.com
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🎙 Passionate World Talk Radio Network LLC — Where real conversations matter.
In this inspiring episode of Chatting with Betsy, host Betsy Wurzel welcomes Lisa and Scott Brearley, co-hosts of the Soulmates and Suitcases Podcast, for a powerful discussion about love, healing, and living with intention. Lisa and Scott share how they met during a seven-day self-development course and built a partnership centered on authenticity, communication, and personal growth. They reveal how giving your partner space for reflection and balance creates a foundation for true emotional connection.
They also discuss their inspiring books:
📘 My Perfect Storm — by Scott Brearley
📗 A Year of Love and Six Months of Love — by Lisa Brearley
📙 I Know – Choices About Nutrition — Lisa’s children’s book The couple explains how their podcast, Soulmates and Suitcases, launched in January 2025, offering heartfelt stories that inspire healing and connection.
Betsy shares how much she enjoyed being a guest on their show and encourages listeners to check it out.
👉 Visit https://forwardwalkingchoices.com to learn more about their coaching, books, and podcast.
📘 Explore their eBooks here: https://payhip.com/LisaScottBrearleyAuthors 💡 From Passionate World Talk Radio Network — where real conversations matter. Stay informed, stay inspired, and help us keep independent voices alive at www.passionateworldtalkradio.com
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/chatting-with-betsy--4211847/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, if you want, this is Betsy Words All your
host of Chatting with Betsy and Passion.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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to educate, enlightened, and entertain. The views of the guests
may not represent those the hosts of the station. Folks,
I have with me today two special guests. They are
the cutest couple. They are husbands. They are so cute
(00:30):
you gotta watch your podcast. They are Scott and Lisa Brearly.
That's spelled b r e A R l e Y
from Canada. They are both wonderful speakers. They are crisis
and recovery coaches. They are best selling authors. They host
(00:51):
a podcast together which I was a guest on back
in July, called Soulmates and Suitcases podcasts wonderful podcast, highly
recommend people watching it. Scott and Lisa met in twenty
twenty one. They were drawn together by a shared passion
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for intentional living, healing and personal growth. They co founded
Forward Walking Choices Coaching, and as I said, they co
host together the podcast Allmates and Suitcases. Scott Rarely is
the author of My Perfect Storm, and Lisa Brerely wrote
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a year of Love and her second book is six
Months of Love, and she wrote a children's book, I
Know Choices about nutrition. And I want to welcome Scott
and Lisa Barally the Chatting with Betsy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Betsy. We're excited to
be here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh well, I am excited to have you.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Know.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I was thinking before the podcast today, how did we meet?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Because I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Did I meet you in a Facebook group? You were
looking for guests? Yes, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
With you?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh, thank you, thank you? And I was thinking, how
did I meet? And then I I remembered and I
enjoyed being on your show. And I think, you know,
people ask or people might think, oh, Betsy, why do
(02:48):
you promote other people's podcasts? Well, first of all, I
don't have all the answers. Number two, everyone interviews differently.
You could interview the same person as I do, but
get a different answer from them, different point of view.
And I think it's important, very important to hear different
(03:11):
people and to support each other. And I believe it's
supporting other people. And Lisa and Scott have been doing
their Soulmates and Suitcases for not too long. How long
have you been doing your podcastle.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Since Scott just since January.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Oh okay, so they'll be here in January. And I
think it's I think it's a great podcast and just
a the audience. Now. I even recommended some guests to
Scott and Lisa because I know they're a great hosts
and I know they do a great job interviewing. And
(03:50):
this is how it works in the podcast world. You recommend,
you support, and you promote each other. That's how it
works on my world. That's a perfect way to put it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yep, excuse me.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I like for you to to share whoever wants
to go first, because I love a good love story
of how you two met.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Go ahead, and for your viewers, Betsy, So as much
as we are we we do love being together. We
are currently not together. We're each we're visiting each of
our families right now, one on the East East Coast
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or I guess well I'm on the East Coast and
Scott's more in mid Canada right now. And yeah, so
I would love to tell you our love story and
how we met, and uh, you know, as I'm as
I'm sharing with you, I hope you can tell I
have a big smile in my face.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Back in twenty twenty one, actually, I'll back it up
even a little bit more. Back in twenty nineteen, I
began with a personal development group to better myself with
this three day weekend and Scott himself. I didn't know
Scott back then, and Scott the year before that, I believe,
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took the same three day weekend course from the same
business in a different province and country or different province
in city and here in Canada. And the next step
after this development in this development course was to take
a seven day course.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And was tip.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It was originally down in the United States, but then
COVID came around, and because COVID came US, Canadians couldn't
go down to the States to take this next course
we wanted to take, and wey they managed to get
the course up for the first time in Canada. So
(06:05):
they they put this course in Alberta, so on the
western side of Canada. It was actually the province where
I was living at the time. Scott was in British
Columbia on the west coast, right on the west coast,
and it so happened that we went to the same
class and during that week long course. We noticed each other, however,
(06:30):
we were both there on our own terms to grow
and to learn more about ourselves and that sort of thing.
And Scott tells this story well as well. But by
the end of end of that week, we actually, I
don't know where we got this idea, but we both
thought it ended on the Sunday. We thought it went
(06:53):
from the Saturday to the Sunday, and it didn't. It
went from the Saturday to the Saturday. And we both
looked at each other and said started Saturday. And You're like, yeah,
I thought it on Saturday. Koon. He goes, I guess
we're going for dinner. Then I'm like, yes, we and
we have not been a part since. Well, we actually
(07:14):
have been because he lived in BC, I lived in Alberta,
and we flew back and forth to each other every
other weekend to keep in contact and probably within a boat.
I think it was by December, So that was August
the twenty twenty one, and by December of that year
Scott moved to Calgary in Alberta, where I was and
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never been.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
A part since.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I love a good love story that is the sweet,
so you knew it was well, the first sight you
knew you were I quote soul mates. That's part of
your podcast name right, saw Mats.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Did you know you were soulmates? It? Well, it was
part of.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, go ahead Scott podcast. But we look at soulmates
as a little bit of a twist than the average
person does, because it's like we believe that, like I
am my own soulmates, and in order to be a
great partner, you need to find your soul and be
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a mate with yourself and be okay with yourself to
be that to be there for somebody else.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And it's like.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I look back at previous relationships and all this stuff
was about self and self and and then with Lisa
it's not. It's about self. Is about getting me healthy
and staying healthy. That part you have to keep strong. However,
(08:52):
when if she says, if Lisa says I want to
do this, I'm like, okay, how can we do it?
Not or be like the communication is absolutely fantastic because
we can talk about anything without taking it personal because
we know it's not personal. I like that.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
And kind of mind.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Help encourage men and women to be supportive because that's
all it is, is like be a little bit for
your partner, even if you don't want to do it,
just do it and it only takes five minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
And the reciprocation of that is incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes, yes, that's that is so true. That used to
frustrate me with my husband met because I want to
do things that he had already done, but I didn't
do it. So I had to put my foot down
and say, man, I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I want to go.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Hear this person in concerts, and Benny finally gave in.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But it's a two way street. You know.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
When in the old days, like when I got married
to Matt, which was it would be would have been
forty six years this November, things were different and my
mother in law this is so funny, make myself choked here.
(10:30):
My mother in law told me. She asked me if
Matt and I were serious. That was like in April
of eighty It was around eastern time, it was Easter,
and I said, well, I think so. She said to me,
life with Matt would not be easy. I didn't ask
her why I should have as I said, chease Matt.
(10:51):
He said, say, you know what your mother said about
you should have went my car and ran for the hills,
but she was She said, you know, it's fifty fifty.
It's not sidy fifty. Everyone should bring both parties one
hundred percent and themselves to the relationship.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, yeah, I totally hear you, and yes, we bring
all of ourselves. However, even I noticed, as I, you know,
first began dating Scott and then married, it was it
was an understanding that some days you feel twenty percent
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and the others and the other partner is eighty percent.
And quite often we fluctuated actually that way, and I
see that a lot in our relationship that you know,
you'll have an off day and sure I feel low,
and the other person is able to be there for
you because they're having an on day. So it's it's
(11:54):
a it's an interesting sort of slow I think that
that I've been noticing in our relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
With you give yourself and it's your true self, your
inner self, your the common terms that we all hear,
our authentic self that you show up as. However, we
have discovered in our relationship that having that open mind,
open heart, the openness to communicate, to here, to listen
(12:30):
is key. Like Scott was talking about the communication, and
and that is I would think, I say, the cornerstone
of our relationship. Huge.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yes, this is very important. You get take it from
the old lady here. Communication is so important. And when
people get mad and they go silent, that's really a
form of passive aggress business and it's not.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's not good to do.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think both parties should be able to sit down
with each other, face each other, and then a non
hostile way get their point across. And I think that's
really important. I think it's important for people to seek
marriage counseling if they need to, if both parties are
(13:29):
willing to work at that. It's very important because communication breakdown.
You know, it starts one like they could start, oh okay,
I'm not going to tatch you because I'm mad at you.
So there goes one day and then it just bolds up.
I worked with somebody and she said her and her
(13:52):
husband had a fight and he was then talked to
her for three months. How do you live like that?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
You? Yeah, you don't live well like it? It feel
like it really does negatively affect your body as a whole,
like your mind, your body, your heart. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah,
it's not. It's not a way to live. I was
(14:20):
going to say something that I totally forget and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That's okay, No, it's not. And you know what, I.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I listened to this relationship coach.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I've been listening to him.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
For six years and he's like, you know what, both
people have to work at it. Both people have to
bring a hundred percent and face each other and communicate.
But don't come at it as you know, guns blazing
in the figurative term, folks. Yes, and you know you
(14:53):
do have to have that open, honest communication. And my
mom talking about old time advice. My mom would always
say to me, don't ever go to been mad at
your spouse. Don't ever leave the house mad. Always say
I love you and kiss, but don't leave the house mad.
(15:15):
And that's there's wisdom in that, because how many times, Lisa,
it's gotta people been mad at their partner or their
spouse or their parents, children, and they leave the house
and never come back. Yeah, and you know, and it's like, oh,
I wish I would have said I loved you. I
wish I would have talked about this problem go ahead.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
It was ironically enough, it was they before our third anniversary,
and we looked at each other. I'm not sure who
said it at first, but I think it was me.
And it's just like I said, I'm at odd with
you today. I don't even know what to say, and
Lisa responded to me, I'm at odd with you today
and what today?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
So we just completely left each.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Other alone all day, and wow, the next day we
were able to talk about what went on for each
other the day before. And it wasn't that I was
angry at her and Lisa wasn't angry with me. We
were just at odds with each other because we were
just not meshing.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Able to give your partner the freedom to be there,
like to be at odds with you and not personal
is or really incredible like superpower them because it's because
I know Lisa has no bone in her body that
wants ill of me. All she wants is the best
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form And if you're not with a partner like that,
then maybe it might not be the right one, or
maybe even need to do some work so you both
get on the same page exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's so beautiful, m hm.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That it really is, because you know when you are
in tune to each other you know, it's like, Okay,
you're having an off day. You want to, you know,
stay to yourself. I understand, and that's good. That's a
good thing to know. And and and to make it clearer,
you know what, I might be in honest with you,
but I'm not mad at you.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I still love you.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I just feel like I'm not myself today and I
want to be by myself. And you could understand that
and understand the part you want to understand that, well,
you would hope, all right, you would hope you would
understand that. And I can totally totally get that. Do
(17:44):
you guys sound like from New Jersey to hear you, guys,
do you go for marriage counseling?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Does that have you gone?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And for that to know that wisdom to have that like, Okay,
well gonna be honest here, I'm having a rough day,
but it's not personal.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
How do you However, though, after that people on course,
I stayed in Calgary with Lease for a couple of
nights and one of the facilitators of the week long
course put on a relationship seminar the first week we
were together and we were both at it together. And
(18:37):
then fast forward a little bit when Lisa started sharing
some a little bit more personal and depth about her
life and herself too, went and seen this therapist that
I went and seen, and then we seen her together
and it was fantastic and we were brand new in
a relationship.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And that is.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
That is cool. So I have to tell you if
you have to watch they're on YouTube, Lisa and Scott
their soulmates and suitcases and how well they do an
interview together, like they just mesh. I just love watching
them and I just think that I it's like, they're
so sweet, you know, it's somewhat cute together.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
And I don't really like the show.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
How did you I'm gonna start with your u the podcast?
How did you come about starting a podcast? What made
you decide to start a podcast?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That would be you? Babe?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Who was.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well like Scott was saying, First of all, we've done
a lot of work together in regards to personal growth
growth together as a couple, and we've really, I like
to term it as stretched our comfort zone. A lot
of people just say, step out of your comfort zone,
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but we've done lots of those things individually and as
a couple, and the last several years we've been going
to Thailand, really pushing ourselves to something different and staying
over the winter months, so six months or so in Thailand,
and we've been doing things that kind of has been
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pushing our boundaries and has been not pushing our boundaries.
That's not the right word. Stretching our opportunities, I think
is the better words. And we've been meeting absolutely incredible
people through the books we've written, through the places we've
traveled to, and part of that came up and I
don't even know exactly how the whole podcast thing came up,
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but we knew that the opportunity to speak with so
many different people around the world and to share their story,
just as we shared hours in books, it was just
an incredible like can we really do this? We can
(21:18):
really do this? Can't we like we can? And so
when we got the ball rolling, initially it was Scott
and I interviewing each other and it felt really good
and it was it was actually a little scary. It
was for me anyway interviewing. I would say the first
I don't know five six seven people and going I
(21:40):
remember went to school for this, I don't know how
to interview people and that's why I thought for myself.
So it's evolved over the last where we are now
on podcasts thirty seven, and it's evolved in where we
were pretty tight with like, you know, we had a
set of questions to ask and that sort of thing,
(22:03):
and now we've come to a place of this really
relaxed conversation and really going deeper and deeper and deeper
and getting to those real, like life questions, those real
the things that matter to people. And we're you know,
we're we're we're learning all the time even on how
to get even more deeper and reach those important things
(22:26):
in life that I think many people are scared to
look at and are often nervous about looking at and
making those shifts in their own lives. And so yeah,
the podcast just it allows for us to grow and
then it allows us to also learn from other people.
So it's been this incredible experience doing our Yes I'llmakes
and Suitcases podcast, which we're on YouTube as video by
(22:49):
the way, just for your listeners, and we're on Spotify
as audio.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Okay, Spotify audio. Yeah, you have to check them on
on YouTube, folks, that you could see so you can
see them. I just I think your podcast is great.
And I understand what you mean because when I started,
I was like, I can't do this. I don't know
(23:16):
how to interview people. And been doing it for six
years and you know, I just have a conversation. And
I'm not your typical host because I saw listen to
other people and say I don't sound like them. But
that makes me me, I mean, I am me. And
you learned so much. I mean I've learned, I'm sure
(23:38):
as you have learned. You learn from every guest. Yeah,
and you really do. And you grow with a person,
don't you by talking to all different people.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yes, I believe putting your shelf out there clear at
we're all new about it, stuffed the life rather than
being bottled up.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yes, yeah, I've I'm amazed really because I am shy,
you know, in off the phone, like off my interview,
off my show. Put me in a room of people
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you won't even know on there because I'm quiet.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's something with doing a interview that it just makes
me so alive. Like don't you feel like.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Like you come alive in a different way?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So much so. And I'm not sure if you're the same, Bessie,
but like after when you say goodbye to your guests,
like we look Scotland, I look at each other. I'm like, wow,
that's great, Like it's just a great yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes. And you know, to get people an opportunity to
share their story, Lisa Scott, I know it means a
lot to you and it means a lot to me,
and that that's one of the things I really like
about you both, is.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
That you get people an opportunity to talk.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And just like we do a passion World Talk radio network,
because when I wanted to share Matt's story, I couldn't.
Nobody wanted to talk to me, nobody wanted to listen,
and it was really hard to get a story out there.
And people share stories. I think it connects us and
(25:53):
brings us together, and we share our humanity with each
other because a lot of people think we're you know,
they're the only ones who feel that way or the
only ones who went through that experience. And they find
out how well someone else went through it and they survived.
I get survived too. It gives people hope.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I feel, Yeah, that's that's for sure. And you hit
the nail on the head in terms of it's about
sharing humanity. And I think that's one thing that we
we sort of go on this journey with our guests
is that you know, they've written a book and they're
they're excited to share the book, but often it's more
(26:37):
about what how they how they shifted, or what they
gained from or their perspective how it shifted after writing
this book, and you know, the people they got to
interact with because of this book, and the opportunities they
got to to got to try out, and so it's
it's it's kind of one of those a little bit
(26:57):
of an you know, an affirmation of this this is
your story and what you have to share is special,
and it's important to get that out and to allow
that when they share, it allows other people to take
those risks or opportunities or try a different experience in
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their life. So that's kind of how I feel about
what the podcast does.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Excuse how about your Scott, Well.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I kind of feel exactly like that. However, it opens
people up and to find a solution. There's a lot
of people don't know where where to find a solution,
or they're looking they've been to different places to find
their solution. They need to enhance their life. However, they
haven't quite found the mark. And that was me for
(27:50):
a lot of years, and over some trial and tribulations,
I found where I needed to be and which kind
of shadow to all the beliefs that I kind of
grew up on too of where I went for help. However,
when I became open to maybe there was something different.
(28:11):
Because I was a creature a habit, I would always
go back to the same spot for help and always
the same spot for help, expecting a.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Different solution, and it was the same solution. That's the
only solution I know.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
So I kept getting put in and I would get
a little bit healthy, but I would be stagnant and
drag it, almost dragging a lot all the time. And
it wasn't until I broke the mold of that. And
I'm forget very grateful because they got me to a
point where I could.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Think for myself and move forward, move in.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Different directions and tried different self help programs. And that's
what led me to Lisa, was breaking the mold. So
I believe that I believe the solution for absolutely everybody,
and it's not a cookie cutter solution for everybody. And
(29:07):
for some people it is. Some people find what they
need almost instantly and some people have to find the
pavement for a while.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I guess that's true. Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I found that.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And doing this my show, it gave me a sense
of purpose, especially when my husband was dying and afterwards.
But it just opened up like talking to people and
meeting people and learning, you know, learning from every guest.
(29:50):
And I had no confidence in myself at all. I
have a little more confidence than myself, and I'm like,
you know what, I really can talk to anyone about anything.
And that's what I wanted a variety of in the
in my show. I didn't want to just do one
(30:11):
particular type of show like some people just have, like
about caregivers and that's fine, that's that's great or Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I wanted to mix it up.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And that's what your show you You have all different
types of people on and I like that.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I like, I mean for me, I like variety.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
And just to just to know, like you don't know
who's listening, at least since Scott I can tell you
that you really don't know who's listening. You know who
you're you're helping we don't know how far our ripples go.
And excuse me. I think that it's it's really important
(30:58):
of what you do and your podcast, and I'm glad
it's it's doing well and the link for it will
be in the blog so people can see it or
or hear it. Excuse me. I also think I had
(31:22):
experience one time. I was I don't even know if
they still have it. I'm not in it anymore. There's
a social platform called the Clubhouse, and I was in it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'd be three or four years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It was a group of podcasts hosts. I found it
to be very clend and sending those people to me,
and they had such an attitude like, oh, I only
interview people who are best sellers or you know that,
or have you know CEOs or whatever? And I said,
(32:00):
don't you interview someone who's had a story, someone who
went through a tragic event and they are now doing
something they turn their life around. Don't you want to
interview those type of people or first time book author?
Don't you want to give them a chance? I do,
(32:22):
and that I think is so important. Everybody needs that
first break, everybody needs that first time of someone giving
them a chance. That's really important.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, I think the reminder that you know, we are
all of the human rights and we're all we're all
doing our best, and that we can learn from each other,
and that life is a constant journey. It's a constant
(33:00):
traveling down this path of learning new things, and something
may work for today and not for tomorrow, and you
need to learn something new. And it's to look at
all the experiences in our life and to kind of
stop and say, well, what lesson am I taking from that?
And you know, now that I know the lesson, how
(33:21):
will I move forward? And you know, a lot of
us can call a lot of things tragic or a trauma,
and often there are some people experience horrific things. However,
there is always something to take away from it that
you can say, this is the lesson that I learned,
and now I have the opportunity to do something different.
(33:43):
And that's kind of one of the big big shifts
I think in a lot of thinking of people today
is kind of coming to that understanding of our mind
is very powerful, very powerful things, and we often think
we're stuck for so long. However we don't have to be.
(34:05):
We can be stuck now and not stuck in two seconds.
There is that opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's true, That is very true. I have a whole
new appreciation for life. I wish I had when I
was younger, but as I get older and saying, you know,
young people.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Die, I really am very.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Thankful to be alive, and I just like I want
to try to change the world or make the world
a better place with the time I have left. And
you know, at age hopefully comes with them and you
learn not to sweat the small stuff. But it takes
it takes work, it really does. Yeah, I want to
(34:57):
get to your books. You are you, You are a
busy couple. Sky going to start with you. Your book
is my perfect storm? Could you tell us about that?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Well, it's kind of thanks to Lisa. I'll say that.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
We were in Thailand and Lisa was writing her first book,
just finishing it up, and I'm sitting around and I'm
kind of boating, not forward, but sitting in the south.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
What I do.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
So I started kind of putting my mama together and
next thing I know, Lisa says to me, she goes, oh, yeah,
I buy you a coaching package to write finish writing
your book. So kind of put the uh, the push
on to do it. In my life, there's been a
(35:51):
train wrecked up until about sixty years ago. And it's
not that it's like I said, I was always going
back to find this to the same solution. And my
life stems from almost dying when I was seven, a
lot of trauma when I grew up, with family and
other stuff and jails, drugs, alcohol and a lot of
(36:16):
twelve step programs and a lot of times getting a
couple of years in and going back out because they
didn't have the emotional capacity to deal with some stuff
that I and I didn't know. That's what it was
at the time. And the last five years of finding
(36:38):
emotional stability and where Iverlong kind of brought on me
writing my first book and a little bit about how
I got there and trying some alternative therapies and you
know a lot of self help classes that have done
and having a mind shift of what life is really
(37:03):
about like all I did in my previous life, or work, work, work, work,
and all about the dollar, all about making money rather
than about family and about having holidays and about having fun.
And it's been an amazing journey. And I wrote my
book in an attempt hoping that people could find their
(37:29):
own solution through my book and know that there's not
just one solution for everybody. So that was my first book,
and my second book's going to go even a little
bit deeper into that of the stuff that I've done
with other research from other people that have done similar things,
(37:51):
and I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to start
doing it as soon as they get back to Thailand.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
That's cool of congratulations, Scott. You know, it's it's very.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It takes a brave person.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
To write a book about themselves and share what they've
gone through, whether it's a man or a woman. I
think it's maybe a little more difficult for a man
to show, you know, emotion because of how society says
how many should be, you know, which has to stop that.
(38:33):
I think as more men were raised from boys that
it's okay to show emotion, it's okay to cry, and
it's it's okay. It doesn't mean you're weak. I think
men would be a lot better off as they got older.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
And so.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Kudos to you and writing a book that help other
people and by sharing your story so important. And I
know what I don't know what it is Lisa Scott
Elp and the audience lately, this must need to be told.
I have had a lot of guests recently that have
(39:19):
a lot in common talked about, you know, abusive home
environments or domestic violence and trauma and therapy and being
victorious over that. I mean, it's and I never had
so many guests within such a short time frame of
(39:40):
the same the same topic. But it's different for everyone,
and I don't know. I think people need to hear
that now. I think there's a lot of people struggling.
And I believe that I get the guests that I'm
supposed to have for for the audiences to hear it,
(40:04):
which might sound a little cuckoo, but that's how I feel.
And Elisa, you wrote you wrote three books a year
of love at your first book.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah? Yeah, and would like to tell us what that's about. Yeah, yeah,
I'll tell you about my book. So before I get
into that, though, Scott's book is available uh for purchase
as a paperback on our website on Forward Walking Choices
dot com, So you can get his copy of your
book there as well if you want it quick and fast.
(40:45):
You can get it as an e book on our
pay Hip pay Hip p A y h I P
pay Hip store, which I'll make sure that you have
have those links that you can put them in the description. Yeah.
So my first book came about a year of love,
taking risks big and small, finding my soulmate to win
(41:08):
it all. That's the subtitle. It came about when I
was Scott and I were part of a goal setting No,
actually this one was it. It wasn't a goal setting course.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
It was the.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Big realization of who do I really want to show
up as? And I wrote I wrote down this goal
of I want to be okay with being heard and
because I like you, Betsy is a very quiet person.
(41:46):
I don't say very much either in public. But I
came to a place of I was very proud of
who I was becoming and very proud of the relationship
I was choosing to have because it was a choice
(42:07):
to show up as the best I could with Scott.
And I was very just very proud of that. And
my first year with Scott, people were saying to me, like, Lucie,
you just like your smile. You light up the room
before you even enter it, Like something is going on
(42:28):
with you, and I'm like, yeah, like this is important,
and I was starting to realize, wait, I'm important. I'm
worthy of sharing my thoughts, my feelings being heard because
those things were not important to me or I didn't
feel I was confident enough to share it. So I
set a goal that said I was going to tell
(42:50):
the story of my love story, my relationship, and my
relationship with myself, and I was going to publish this
book like within a year, and I did, and so
that's where A Year of Love came from. And then
my second book, I literally I'm like, pretty much the
next day, almost like after the first book was published,
(43:11):
I'm like, I started write in on my second book.
And so the Year of Love is about our first
year together and my growth in that year and the
six months of Love. It is about our first six
months in Thailand. So it's you know, it is about
our journey, my journey. But if you're interested in learning
a little more and seeing a little more about Thailand,
(43:33):
you you would you would get that in that book
because that's the six months we spent our first six
months there and like we were you know, we're living
living while we rented there, but we're living in a
country where we don't know their language, we don't know
how the money works, we don't know this, and we
don't know that, and we're driving a scooter on the
other side of the road and we're like doing all
(43:55):
this crazy stuff, like going in caves and not telling
where we're going. We've done crazy stuff. And so, you know,
being able to share that story and have other people
read it, I hope it's inspiring to them to do
something for themselves because they are worthy. And that is
(44:15):
the last caption of the last picture in that book,
Six Months of Love. It's a picture of me that
says I am worthy And that was very important that
I put that there because I want people to see
themselves in me and know that they are worthy as well.
So those two books are extremely important. And my third
(44:36):
book that I'm I'm almost ready to go to the
publisher now. It's called Love the Infinite Possibilities that can
transform everything. So it's understanding that when you can love yourself,
the cup it's spill over. You know, it's so much
(44:59):
comes your way, so many experiences and opportunities and so
much growth and so much resilience. When you can find
that love within. And then when you find that love within,
it attracts love, It attracts those things that you are,
because what you are, you will attract. And so that's
what my third book it is about, and it's about
(45:20):
just like the recounts of experiences and awarenesses and those
stories that were special to me. And so that's kind
of my three adult books. But like you said, Betsy,
I have a children's book. It is a nonfiction book.
It's aged for ages five to seven, around that ages,
and I'm a teacher and I envisioned it being used
(45:43):
in the classroom. However, I've seen it used and now
in families just to bring up the conversation around nutrition
and what we eat and our choices about food. And
it's a fun pattern book for young readers and especially
those young readers who love animals, because there's animals.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Throughout the book.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
This book is called I Know, because you know what
kids know all the answers, so I wanted to I
wanted to title that, and kids, kids like I have
had lots of feedback on how they love seeing you know,
like a lion lick a lollipop and and and there's
hardly any words in this book, there's the word no,
(46:30):
and there's the word why, and and children know the answers,
and so they know why lions don't lick lollipops and
and sharks don't eat bags of chips. They know why.
And so when it gets to the end and you
see you see a person, and you see all those
things around that person, and they go, I know, and
(46:55):
they know. So it's to spark that conversation within themselves,
within the parents, within the dynamics of the classroom. That
was my goal with that book, because it does start
with a discussion and awareness and then action. And there
are some resources at the back of the book as well.
And my second children's book that I'm very excited that's
(47:17):
coming out. It's called One Cookie at a Time and
it's a true story about Lily, a kindergarten student who
approached me as her teacher to do something special. And
I don't want to give the whole book away, but
I'm really excited about this one, and I know it
(47:38):
will be a great bedtime story, great story to read
in school. Very excited about that. When it will probably
be coming out in early twenty twenty six, I would say, oh,
that is.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Cool, and I'm kind of curious, how did you settle
on time to live there for six months or to
mean I could see visiting there, but to live there
for a few months.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Well, I had known some friends that went there, and.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I had decided before meeting Lisa, I had decided that
I was going to work probably till about this age
or maybe another year, and pay off some debt and
start going to Thailand for six months a year and
then work part of the year if I wanted, or
(48:35):
live life. And meeting Lisa and what we both brought
together allowed me to do it sooner, and it was
like I just wanted to get away.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
So we went for six months.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
And it was actually one of the goals I said
in this goal setting course that we had taken together,
and part of the goal goal setting course ballons to
make our goals come true.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
In twenty four hours private.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
Home with both of us plane tickets to Thailand, and
at that point were not married yet, we were still
just living together as partners and not that that's James.
We're still partners however, and then we went and we
loved it so much, and the people are so Jenny
wine and the food is so good, and it's also
(49:31):
really inexpensive to live there. Yeah, that's why I kind
of like going. And I'm not sure I think Lisa
is about the same vote.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, I am cool.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
I don't for says I want to get in your
coaching business? Do you offer online services you're forward to
watch choices coaching?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Yes, it's all what time?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Oh okay?
Speaker 1 (50:08):
And if they go on your website they can see
the different services that you offer.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Do coach like the personal business?
Speaker 1 (50:20):
What what kind of coaching do you do?
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Personal?
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Well, you'll find everything on our website like all links
to yes, our services, our books, our podcast. Yeah, you'll
find all of that on there and anyway reach out
reach out to us please, Yes, we'd be excited to
meet some new guests for our podcast. We'd be excited
(50:51):
to as well to coach. Our our focus is crisis
and recovery coaching, and on top of that, Scott is
also one life coach.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Okay, well that sounds great. You are both a busy couple,
that's for sure. And I'm so glad that you two
met each other, and I'm glad that I met you both,
and I wish you a safe trip to Thailand and
(51:29):
that's the wishes with all your books and your podcast,
and I really enjoy talking to you both. Thank you
for being a guest.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Excuse me, fantastic, Thank you, Betsy. We this was an
awesome conversation and we appreciate you supporting us as well.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
And you know what, let me know when your new
books are out and come back. I would love to
you to talk about your your new books, how tyliand
was and.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
What's going on.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
You know, that's kind of like a catch up. Well,
thank you folks. You heard Lisa and Scott freely b
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Speaker 2 (52:43):
Thank you for listening.
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(53:10):
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(53:31):
at the end of my show, in a world where
you could be anything, please be kind and shine.
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I have with me today two special guests. They are
the cutest couple. They are husbands. They are so cute
(00:30):
you gotta watch your podcast. They are Scott and Lisa Brearly.
That's spelled b r e A R l e Y
from Canada. They are both wonderful speakers. They are crisis
and recovery coaches. They are best selling authors. They host
(00:51):
a podcast together which I was a guest on back
in July, called Soulmates and Suitcases podcasts wonderful podcast, highly
recommend people watching it. Scott and Lisa met in twenty
twenty one. They were drawn together by a shared passion
(01:12):
for intentional living, healing and personal growth. They co founded
Forward Walking Choices Coaching, and as I said, they co
host together the podcast Allmates and Suitcases. Scott Rarely is
the author of My Perfect Storm, and Lisa Brerely wrote
(01:36):
a year of Love and her second book is six
Months of Love, and she wrote a children's book, I
Know Choices about nutrition. And I want to welcome Scott
and Lisa Barally the Chatting with Betsy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Betsy. We're excited to
be here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh well, I am excited to have you.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Know.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I was thinking before the podcast today, how did we meet?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Because I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Did I meet you in a Facebook group? You were
looking for guests? Yes, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
With you?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh, thank you, thank you? And I was thinking, how
did I meet? And then I I remembered and I
enjoyed being on your show. And I think, you know,
people ask or people might think, oh, Betsy, why do
(02:48):
you promote other people's podcasts? Well, first of all, I
don't have all the answers. Number two, everyone interviews differently.
You could interview the same person as I do, but
get a different answer from them, different point of view.
And I think it's important, very important to hear different
(03:11):
people and to support each other. And I believe it's
supporting other people. And Lisa and Scott have been doing
their Soulmates and Suitcases for not too long. How long
have you been doing your podcastle.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Since Scott just since January.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Oh okay, so they'll be here in January. And I
think it's I think it's a great podcast and just
a the audience. Now. I even recommended some guests to
Scott and Lisa because I know they're a great hosts
and I know they do a great job interviewing. And
(03:50):
this is how it works in the podcast world. You recommend,
you support, and you promote each other. That's how it
works on my world. That's a perfect way to put it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yep, excuse me.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I like for you to to share whoever wants
to go first, because I love a good love story
of how you two met.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Go ahead, and for your viewers, Betsy, So as much
as we are we we do love being together. We
are currently not together. We're each we're visiting each of
our families right now, one on the East East Coast
(04:40):
or I guess well I'm on the East Coast and
Scott's more in mid Canada right now. And yeah, so
I would love to tell you our love story and
how we met, and uh, you know, as I'm as
I'm sharing with you, I hope you can tell I
have a big smile in my face.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Back in twenty twenty one, actually, I'll back it up
even a little bit more. Back in twenty nineteen, I
began with a personal development group to better myself with
this three day weekend and Scott himself. I didn't know
Scott back then, and Scott the year before that, I believe,
(05:25):
took the same three day weekend course from the same
business in a different province and country or different province
in city and here in Canada. And the next step
after this development in this development course was to take
a seven day course.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And was tip.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It was originally down in the United States, but then
COVID came around, and because COVID came US, Canadians couldn't
go down to the States to take this next course
we wanted to take, and wey they managed to get
the course up for the first time in Canada. So
(06:05):
they they put this course in Alberta, so on the
western side of Canada. It was actually the province where
I was living at the time. Scott was in British
Columbia on the west coast, right on the west coast,
and it so happened that we went to the same
class and during that week long course. We noticed each other, however,
(06:30):
we were both there on our own terms to grow
and to learn more about ourselves and that sort of thing.
And Scott tells this story well as well. But by
the end of end of that week, we actually, I
don't know where we got this idea, but we both
thought it ended on the Sunday. We thought it went
(06:53):
from the Saturday to the Sunday, and it didn't. It
went from the Saturday to the Saturday. And we both
looked at each other and said started Saturday. And You're like, yeah,
I thought it on Saturday. Koon. He goes, I guess
we're going for dinner. Then I'm like, yes, we and
we have not been a part since. Well, we actually
(07:14):
have been because he lived in BC, I lived in Alberta,
and we flew back and forth to each other every
other weekend to keep in contact and probably within a boat.
I think it was by December, So that was August
the twenty twenty one, and by December of that year
Scott moved to Calgary in Alberta, where I was and
(07:37):
never been.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
A part since.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I love a good love story that is the sweet,
so you knew it was well, the first sight you
knew you were I quote soul mates. That's part of
your podcast name right, saw Mats.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Did you know you were soulmates? It? Well, it was
part of.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, go ahead Scott podcast. But we look at soulmates
as a little bit of a twist than the average
person does, because it's like we believe that, like I
am my own soulmates, and in order to be a
great partner, you need to find your soul and be
(08:21):
a mate with yourself and be okay with yourself to
be that to be there for somebody else.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And it's like.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I look back at previous relationships and all this stuff
was about self and self and and then with Lisa
it's not. It's about self. Is about getting me healthy
and staying healthy. That part you have to keep strong. However,
(08:52):
when if she says, if Lisa says I want to
do this, I'm like, okay, how can we do it?
Not or be like the communication is absolutely fantastic because
we can talk about anything without taking it personal because
we know it's not personal. I like that.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
And kind of mind.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Help encourage men and women to be supportive because that's
all it is, is like be a little bit for
your partner, even if you don't want to do it,
just do it and it only takes five minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
And the reciprocation of that is incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes, yes, that's that is so true. That used to
frustrate me with my husband met because I want to
do things that he had already done, but I didn't
do it. So I had to put my foot down
and say, man, I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I want to go.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Hear this person in concerts, and Benny finally gave in.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But it's a two way street. You know.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
When in the old days, like when I got married
to Matt, which was it would be would have been
forty six years this November, things were different and my
mother in law this is so funny, make myself choked here.
(10:30):
My mother in law told me. She asked me if
Matt and I were serious. That was like in April
of eighty It was around eastern time, it was Easter,
and I said, well, I think so. She said to me,
life with Matt would not be easy. I didn't ask
her why I should have as I said, chease Matt.
(10:51):
He said, say, you know what your mother said about
you should have went my car and ran for the hills,
but she was She said, you know, it's fifty fifty.
It's not sidy fifty. Everyone should bring both parties one
hundred percent and themselves to the relationship.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, yeah, I totally hear you, and yes, we bring
all of ourselves. However, even I noticed, as I, you know,
first began dating Scott and then married, it was it
was an understanding that some days you feel twenty percent
(11:31):
and the others and the other partner is eighty percent.
And quite often we fluctuated actually that way, and I
see that a lot in our relationship that you know,
you'll have an off day and sure I feel low,
and the other person is able to be there for
you because they're having an on day. So it's it's
(11:54):
a it's an interesting sort of slow I think that
that I've been noticing in our relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
With you give yourself and it's your true self, your
inner self, your the common terms that we all hear,
our authentic self that you show up as. However, we
have discovered in our relationship that having that open mind,
open heart, the openness to communicate, to here, to listen
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is key. Like Scott was talking about the communication, and
and that is I would think, I say, the cornerstone
of our relationship. Huge.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yes, this is very important. You get take it from
the old lady here. Communication is so important. And when
people get mad and they go silent, that's really a
form of passive aggress business and it's not.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's not good to do.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think both parties should be able to sit down
with each other, face each other, and then a non
hostile way get their point across. And I think that's
really important. I think it's important for people to seek
marriage counseling if they need to, if both parties are
(13:29):
willing to work at that. It's very important because communication breakdown.
You know, it starts one like they could start, oh okay,
I'm not going to tatch you because I'm mad at you.
So there goes one day and then it just bolds up.
I worked with somebody and she said her and her
(13:52):
husband had a fight and he was then talked to
her for three months. How do you live like that?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
You? Yeah, you don't live well like it? It feel
like it really does negatively affect your body as a whole,
like your mind, your body, your heart. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah,
it's not. It's not a way to live. I was
(14:20):
going to say something that I totally forget and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That's okay, No, it's not. And you know what, I.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I listened to this relationship coach.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I've been listening to him.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
For six years and he's like, you know what, both
people have to work at it. Both people have to
bring a hundred percent and face each other and communicate.
But don't come at it as you know, guns blazing
in the figurative term, folks. Yes, and you know you
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do have to have that open, honest communication. And my
mom talking about old time advice. My mom would always
say to me, don't ever go to been mad at
your spouse. Don't ever leave the house mad. Always say
I love you and kiss, but don't leave the house mad.
(15:15):
And that's there's wisdom in that, because how many times, Lisa,
it's gotta people been mad at their partner or their
spouse or their parents, children, and they leave the house
and never come back. Yeah, and you know, and it's like, oh,
I wish I would have said I loved you. I
wish I would have talked about this problem go ahead.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
It was ironically enough, it was they before our third anniversary,
and we looked at each other. I'm not sure who
said it at first, but I think it was me.
And it's just like I said, I'm at odd with
you today. I don't even know what to say, and
Lisa responded to me, I'm at odd with you today
and what today?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
So we just completely left each.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Other alone all day, and wow, the next day we
were able to talk about what went on for each
other the day before. And it wasn't that I was
angry at her and Lisa wasn't angry with me. We
were just at odds with each other because we were
just not meshing.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Able to give your partner the freedom to be there,
like to be at odds with you and not personal
is or really incredible like superpower them because it's because
I know Lisa has no bone in her body that
wants ill of me. All she wants is the best
(16:45):
form And if you're not with a partner like that,
then maybe it might not be the right one, or
maybe even need to do some work so you both
get on the same page exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's so beautiful, m hm.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That it really is, because you know when you are
in tune to each other you know, it's like, Okay,
you're having an off day. You want to, you know,
stay to yourself. I understand, and that's good. That's a
good thing to know. And and and to make it clearer,
you know what, I might be in honest with you,
but I'm not mad at you.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I still love you.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I just feel like I'm not myself today and I
want to be by myself. And you could understand that
and understand the part you want to understand that, well,
you would hope, all right, you would hope you would
understand that. And I can totally totally get that. Do
(17:44):
you guys sound like from New Jersey to hear you, guys,
do you go for marriage counseling?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Does that have you gone?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And for that to know that wisdom to have that like, Okay,
well gonna be honest here, I'm having a rough day,
but it's not personal.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
How do you However, though, after that people on course,
I stayed in Calgary with Lease for a couple of
nights and one of the facilitators of the week long
course put on a relationship seminar the first week we
were together and we were both at it together. And
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then fast forward a little bit when Lisa started sharing
some a little bit more personal and depth about her
life and herself too, went and seen this therapist that
I went and seen, and then we seen her together
and it was fantastic and we were brand new in
a relationship.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And that is.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
That is cool. So I have to tell you if
you have to watch they're on YouTube, Lisa and Scott
their soulmates and suitcases and how well they do an
interview together, like they just mesh. I just love watching
them and I just think that I it's like, they're
so sweet, you know, it's somewhat cute together.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
And I don't really like the show.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
How did you I'm gonna start with your u the podcast?
How did you come about starting a podcast? What made
you decide to start a podcast?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That would be you? Babe?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Who was.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well like Scott was saying, First of all, we've done
a lot of work together in regards to personal growth
growth together as a couple, and we've really, I like
to term it as stretched our comfort zone. A lot
of people just say, step out of your comfort zone,
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but we've done lots of those things individually and as
a couple, and the last several years we've been going
to Thailand, really pushing ourselves to something different and staying
over the winter months, so six months or so in Thailand,
and we've been doing things that kind of has been
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pushing our boundaries and has been not pushing our boundaries.
That's not the right word. Stretching our opportunities, I think
is the better words. And we've been meeting absolutely incredible
people through the books we've written, through the places we've
traveled to, and part of that came up and I
don't even know exactly how the whole podcast thing came up,
(20:58):
but we knew that the opportunity to speak with so
many different people around the world and to share their story,
just as we shared hours in books, it was just
an incredible like can we really do this? We can
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really do this? Can't we like we can? And so
when we got the ball rolling, initially it was Scott
and I interviewing each other and it felt really good
and it was it was actually a little scary. It
was for me anyway interviewing. I would say the first
I don't know five six seven people and going I
(21:40):
remember went to school for this, I don't know how
to interview people and that's why I thought for myself.
So it's evolved over the last where we are now
on podcasts thirty seven, and it's evolved in where we
were pretty tight with like, you know, we had a
set of questions to ask and that sort of thing,
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and now we've come to a place of this really
relaxed conversation and really going deeper and deeper and deeper
and getting to those real, like life questions, those real
the things that matter to people. And we're you know,
we're we're we're learning all the time even on how
to get even more deeper and reach those important things
(22:26):
in life that I think many people are scared to
look at and are often nervous about looking at and
making those shifts in their own lives. And so yeah,
the podcast just it allows for us to grow and
then it allows us to also learn from other people.
So it's been this incredible experience doing our Yes I'llmakes
and Suitcases podcast, which we're on YouTube as video by
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the way, just for your listeners, and we're on Spotify
as audio.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Okay, Spotify audio. Yeah, you have to check them on
on YouTube, folks, that you could see so you can
see them. I just I think your podcast is great.
And I understand what you mean because when I started,
I was like, I can't do this. I don't know
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how to interview people. And been doing it for six
years and you know, I just have a conversation. And
I'm not your typical host because I saw listen to
other people and say I don't sound like them. But
that makes me me, I mean, I am me. And
you learned so much. I mean I've learned, I'm sure
(23:38):
as you have learned. You learn from every guest. Yeah,
and you really do. And you grow with a person,
don't you by talking to all different people.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yes, I believe putting your shelf out there clear at
we're all new about it, stuffed the life rather than
being bottled up.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yes, yeah, I've I'm amazed really because I am shy,
you know, in off the phone, like off my interview,
off my show. Put me in a room of people
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you won't even know on there because I'm quiet.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's something with doing a interview that it just makes
me so alive. Like don't you feel like.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Like you come alive in a different way?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So much so. And I'm not sure if you're the same, Bessie,
but like after when you say goodbye to your guests,
like we look Scotland, I look at each other. I'm like, wow,
that's great, Like it's just a great yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes. And you know, to get people an opportunity to
share their story, Lisa Scott, I know it means a
lot to you and it means a lot to me,
and that that's one of the things I really like
about you both, is.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
That you get people an opportunity to talk.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And just like we do a passion World Talk radio network,
because when I wanted to share Matt's story, I couldn't.
Nobody wanted to talk to me, nobody wanted to listen,
and it was really hard to get a story out there.
And people share stories. I think it connects us and
(25:53):
brings us together, and we share our humanity with each
other because a lot of people think we're you know,
they're the only ones who feel that way or the
only ones who went through that experience. And they find
out how well someone else went through it and they survived.
I get survived too. It gives people hope.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I feel, Yeah, that's that's for sure. And you hit
the nail on the head in terms of it's about
sharing humanity. And I think that's one thing that we
we sort of go on this journey with our guests
is that you know, they've written a book and they're
they're excited to share the book, but often it's more
(26:37):
about what how they how they shifted, or what they
gained from or their perspective how it shifted after writing
this book, and you know, the people they got to
interact with because of this book, and the opportunities they
got to to got to try out, and so it's
it's it's kind of one of those a little bit
(26:57):
of an you know, an affirmation of this this is
your story and what you have to share is special,
and it's important to get that out and to allow
that when they share, it allows other people to take
those risks or opportunities or try a different experience in
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their life. So that's kind of how I feel about
what the podcast does.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Excuse how about your Scott, Well.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I kind of feel exactly like that. However, it opens
people up and to find a solution. There's a lot
of people don't know where where to find a solution,
or they're looking they've been to different places to find
their solution. They need to enhance their life. However, they
haven't quite found the mark. And that was me for
(27:50):
a lot of years, and over some trial and tribulations,
I found where I needed to be and which kind
of shadow to all the beliefs that I kind of
grew up on too of where I went for help. However,
when I became open to maybe there was something different.
(28:11):
Because I was a creature a habit, I would always
go back to the same spot for help and always
the same spot for help, expecting a.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Different solution, and it was the same solution. That's the
only solution I know.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
So I kept getting put in and I would get
a little bit healthy, but I would be stagnant and
drag it, almost dragging a lot all the time. And
it wasn't until I broke the mold of that. And
I'm forget very grateful because they got me to a
point where I could.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Think for myself and move forward, move in.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Different directions and tried different self help programs. And that's
what led me to Lisa, was breaking the mold. So
I believe that I believe the solution for absolutely everybody,
and it's not a cookie cutter solution for everybody. And
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for some people it is. Some people find what they
need almost instantly and some people have to find the
pavement for a while.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I guess that's true. Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I found that.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And doing this my show, it gave me a sense
of purpose, especially when my husband was dying and afterwards.
But it just opened up like talking to people and
meeting people and learning, you know, learning from every guest.
(29:50):
And I had no confidence in myself at all. I
have a little more confidence than myself, and I'm like,
you know what, I really can talk to anyone about anything.
And that's what I wanted a variety of in the
in my show. I didn't want to just do one
(30:11):
particular type of show like some people just have, like
about caregivers and that's fine, that's that's great or Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I wanted to mix it up.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And that's what your show you You have all different
types of people on and I like that.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I like, I mean for me, I like variety.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
And just to just to know, like you don't know
who's listening, at least since Scott I can tell you
that you really don't know who's listening. You know who
you're you're helping we don't know how far our ripples go.
And excuse me. I think that it's it's really important
(30:58):
of what you do and your podcast, and I'm glad
it's it's doing well and the link for it will
be in the blog so people can see it or
or hear it. Excuse me. I also think I had
(31:22):
experience one time. I was I don't even know if
they still have it. I'm not in it anymore. There's
a social platform called the Clubhouse, and I was in it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'd be three or four years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It was a group of podcasts hosts. I found it
to be very clend and sending those people to me,
and they had such an attitude like, oh, I only
interview people who are best sellers or you know that,
or have you know CEOs or whatever? And I said,
(32:00):
don't you interview someone who's had a story, someone who
went through a tragic event and they are now doing
something they turn their life around. Don't you want to
interview those type of people or first time book author?
Don't you want to give them a chance? I do,
(32:22):
and that I think is so important. Everybody needs that
first break, everybody needs that first time of someone giving
them a chance. That's really important.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, I think the reminder that you know, we are
all of the human rights and we're all we're all
doing our best, and that we can learn from each other,
and that life is a constant journey. It's a constant
(33:00):
traveling down this path of learning new things, and something
may work for today and not for tomorrow, and you
need to learn something new. And it's to look at
all the experiences in our life and to kind of
stop and say, well, what lesson am I taking from that?
And you know, now that I know the lesson, how
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will I move forward? And you know, a lot of
us can call a lot of things tragic or a trauma,
and often there are some people experience horrific things. However,
there is always something to take away from it that
you can say, this is the lesson that I learned,
and now I have the opportunity to do something different.
(33:43):
And that's kind of one of the big big shifts
I think in a lot of thinking of people today
is kind of coming to that understanding of our mind
is very powerful, very powerful things, and we often think
we're stuck for so long. However we don't have to be.
(34:05):
We can be stuck now and not stuck in two seconds.
There is that opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's true, That is very true. I have a whole
new appreciation for life. I wish I had when I
was younger, but as I get older and saying, you know,
young people.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Die, I really am very.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Thankful to be alive, and I just like I want
to try to change the world or make the world
a better place with the time I have left. And
you know, at age hopefully comes with them and you
learn not to sweat the small stuff. But it takes
it takes work, it really does. Yeah, I want to
(34:57):
get to your books. You are you, You are a
busy couple. Sky going to start with you. Your book
is my perfect storm? Could you tell us about that?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Well, it's kind of thanks to Lisa. I'll say that.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
We were in Thailand and Lisa was writing her first book,
just finishing it up, and I'm sitting around and I'm
kind of boating, not forward, but sitting in the south.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
What I do.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
So I started kind of putting my mama together and
next thing I know, Lisa says to me, she goes, oh, yeah,
I buy you a coaching package to write finish writing
your book. So kind of put the uh, the push
on to do it. In my life, there's been a
(35:51):
train wrecked up until about sixty years ago. And it's
not that it's like I said, I was always going
back to find this to the same solution. And my
life stems from almost dying when I was seven, a
lot of trauma when I grew up, with family and
other stuff and jails, drugs, alcohol and a lot of
(36:16):
twelve step programs and a lot of times getting a
couple of years in and going back out because they
didn't have the emotional capacity to deal with some stuff
that I and I didn't know. That's what it was
at the time. And the last five years of finding
(36:38):
emotional stability and where Iverlong kind of brought on me
writing my first book and a little bit about how
I got there and trying some alternative therapies and you
know a lot of self help classes that have done
and having a mind shift of what life is really
(37:03):
about like all I did in my previous life, or work, work, work, work,
and all about the dollar, all about making money rather
than about family and about having holidays and about having fun.
And it's been an amazing journey. And I wrote my
book in an attempt hoping that people could find their
(37:29):
own solution through my book and know that there's not
just one solution for everybody. So that was my first book,
and my second book's going to go even a little
bit deeper into that of the stuff that I've done
with other research from other people that have done similar things,
(37:51):
and I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to start
doing it as soon as they get back to Thailand.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
That's cool of congratulations, Scott. You know, it's it's very.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It takes a brave person.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
To write a book about themselves and share what they've
gone through, whether it's a man or a woman. I
think it's maybe a little more difficult for a man
to show, you know, emotion because of how society says
how many should be, you know, which has to stop that.
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I think as more men were raised from boys that
it's okay to show emotion, it's okay to cry, and
it's it's okay. It doesn't mean you're weak. I think
men would be a lot better off as they got older.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
And so.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Kudos to you and writing a book that help other
people and by sharing your story so important. And I
know what I don't know what it is Lisa Scott
Elp and the audience lately, this must need to be told.
I have had a lot of guests recently that have
(39:19):
a lot in common talked about, you know, abusive home
environments or domestic violence and trauma and therapy and being
victorious over that. I mean, it's and I never had
so many guests within such a short time frame of
(39:40):
the same the same topic. But it's different for everyone,
and I don't know. I think people need to hear
that now. I think there's a lot of people struggling.
And I believe that I get the guests that I'm
supposed to have for for the audiences to hear it,
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which might sound a little cuckoo, but that's how I feel.
And Elisa, you wrote you wrote three books a year
of love at your first book.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah? Yeah, and would like to tell us what that's about. Yeah, yeah,
I'll tell you about my book. So before I get
into that, though, Scott's book is available uh for purchase
as a paperback on our website on Forward Walking Choices
dot com, So you can get his copy of your
book there as well if you want it quick and fast.
(40:45):
You can get it as an e book on our
pay Hip pay Hip p A y h I P
pay Hip store, which I'll make sure that you have
have those links that you can put them in the description. Yeah.
So my first book came about a year of love,
taking risks big and small, finding my soulmate to win
(41:08):
it all. That's the subtitle. It came about when I
was Scott and I were part of a goal setting No,
actually this one was it. It wasn't a goal setting course.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
It was the.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Big realization of who do I really want to show
up as? And I wrote I wrote down this goal
of I want to be okay with being heard and
because I like you, Betsy is a very quiet person.
(41:46):
I don't say very much either in public. But I
came to a place of I was very proud of
who I was becoming and very proud of the relationship
I was choosing to have because it was a choice
(42:07):
to show up as the best I could with Scott.
And I was very just very proud of that. And
my first year with Scott, people were saying to me, like, Lucie,
you just like your smile. You light up the room
before you even enter it, Like something is going on
(42:28):
with you, and I'm like, yeah, like this is important,
and I was starting to realize, wait, I'm important. I'm
worthy of sharing my thoughts, my feelings being heard because
those things were not important to me or I didn't
feel I was confident enough to share it. So I
set a goal that said I was going to tell
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the story of my love story, my relationship, and my
relationship with myself, and I was going to publish this
book like within a year, and I did, and so
that's where A Year of Love came from. And then
my second book, I literally I'm like, pretty much the
next day, almost like after the first book was published,
(43:11):
I'm like, I started write in on my second book.
And so the Year of Love is about our first
year together and my growth in that year and the
six months of Love. It is about our first six
months in Thailand. So it's you know, it is about
our journey, my journey. But if you're interested in learning
a little more and seeing a little more about Thailand,
(43:33):
you you would you would get that in that book
because that's the six months we spent our first six
months there and like we were you know, we're living
living while we rented there, but we're living in a
country where we don't know their language, we don't know
how the money works, we don't know this, and we
don't know that, and we're driving a scooter on the
other side of the road and we're like doing all
(43:55):
this crazy stuff, like going in caves and not telling
where we're going. We've done crazy stuff. And so, you know,
being able to share that story and have other people
read it, I hope it's inspiring to them to do
something for themselves because they are worthy. And that is
(44:15):
the last caption of the last picture in that book,
Six Months of Love. It's a picture of me that
says I am worthy And that was very important that
I put that there because I want people to see
themselves in me and know that they are worthy as well.
So those two books are extremely important. And my third
(44:36):
book that I'm I'm almost ready to go to the
publisher now. It's called Love the Infinite Possibilities that can
transform everything. So it's understanding that when you can love yourself,
the cup it's spill over. You know, it's so much
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comes your way, so many experiences and opportunities and so
much growth and so much resilience. When you can find
that love within. And then when you find that love within,
it attracts love, It attracts those things that you are,
because what you are, you will attract. And so that's
what my third book it is about, and it's about
(45:20):
just like the recounts of experiences and awarenesses and those
stories that were special to me. And so that's kind
of my three adult books. But like you said, Betsy,
I have a children's book. It is a nonfiction book.
It's aged for ages five to seven, around that ages,
and I'm a teacher and I envisioned it being used
(45:43):
in the classroom. However, I've seen it used and now
in families just to bring up the conversation around nutrition
and what we eat and our choices about food. And
it's a fun pattern book for young readers and especially
those young readers who love animals, because there's animals.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Throughout the book.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
This book is called I Know, because you know what
kids know all the answers, so I wanted to I
wanted to title that, and kids, kids like I have
had lots of feedback on how they love seeing you know,
like a lion lick a lollipop and and and there's
hardly any words in this book, there's the word no,
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and there's the word why, and and children know the answers,
and so they know why lions don't lick lollipops and
and sharks don't eat bags of chips. They know why.
And so when it gets to the end and you
see you see a person, and you see all those
things around that person, and they go, I know, and
(46:55):
they know. So it's to spark that conversation within themselves,
within the parents, within the dynamics of the classroom. That
was my goal with that book, because it does start
with a discussion and awareness and then action. And there
are some resources at the back of the book as well.
And my second children's book that I'm very excited that's
(47:17):
coming out. It's called One Cookie at a Time and
it's a true story about Lily, a kindergarten student who
approached me as her teacher to do something special. And
I don't want to give the whole book away, but
I'm really excited about this one, and I know it
(47:38):
will be a great bedtime story, great story to read
in school. Very excited about that. When it will probably
be coming out in early twenty twenty six, I would say, oh,
that is.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Cool, and I'm kind of curious, how did you settle
on time to live there for six months or to
mean I could see visiting there, but to live there
for a few months.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Well, I had known some friends that went there, and.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I had decided before meeting Lisa, I had decided that
I was going to work probably till about this age
or maybe another year, and pay off some debt and
start going to Thailand for six months a year and
then work part of the year if I wanted, or
(48:35):
live life. And meeting Lisa and what we both brought
together allowed me to do it sooner, and it was
like I just wanted to get away.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
So we went for six months.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
And it was actually one of the goals I said
in this goal setting course that we had taken together,
and part of the goal goal setting course ballons to
make our goals come true.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
In twenty four hours private.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
Home with both of us plane tickets to Thailand, and
at that point were not married yet, we were still
just living together as partners and not that that's James.
We're still partners however, and then we went and we
loved it so much, and the people are so Jenny
wine and the food is so good, and it's also
(49:31):
really inexpensive to live there. Yeah, that's why I kind
of like going. And I'm not sure I think Lisa
is about the same vote.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, I am cool.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
I don't for says I want to get in your
coaching business? Do you offer online services you're forward to
watch choices coaching?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Yes, it's all what time?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Oh okay?
Speaker 1 (50:08):
And if they go on your website they can see
the different services that you offer.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Do coach like the personal business?
Speaker 1 (50:20):
What what kind of coaching do you do?
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Personal?
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Well, you'll find everything on our website like all links
to yes, our services, our books, our podcast. Yeah, you'll
find all of that on there and anyway reach out
reach out to us please, Yes, we'd be excited to
meet some new guests for our podcast. We'd be excited
(50:51):
to as well to coach. Our our focus is crisis
and recovery coaching, and on top of that, Scott is
also one life coach.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Okay, well that sounds great. You are both a busy couple,
that's for sure. And I'm so glad that you two
met each other, and I'm glad that I met you both,
and I wish you a safe trip to Thailand and
(51:29):
that's the wishes with all your books and your podcast,
and I really enjoy talking to you both. Thank you
for being a guest.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Excuse me, fantastic, Thank you, Betsy. We this was an
awesome conversation and we appreciate you supporting us as well.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
And you know what, let me know when your new
books are out and come back. I would love to
you to talk about your your new books, how tyliand
was and.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
What's going on.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
You know, that's kind of like a catch up. Well,
thank you folks. You heard Lisa and Scott freely b
R E A R L E Y. All the information
about Lisa and Scott will be in the blog that
Genie White writes as the station manager and produces the show.
(52:34):
And I want to thank William Coldwell, with the CEO
of Petial Talk Radio, who makes this all possible. I
want thank you the listeners.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Subscribing if you don't away subscribe to Chatting with Betsy.
It is for free on Spotify, Spreaker, iHeart and Emma
don Music and you could follow me on Facebook. Betty
Worzel w or ze l and I want to thank
Li since Scott Burley again, folks, check out their website,
(53:10):
check out their YouTube channel and you could see them
on video or on listen on Spotify, and I know
you'll enjoy their show, so Mates in Suitcases Podcast, And
thank you all for listening. And as I always stay
(53:31):
at the end of my show, in a world where
you could be anything, please be kind and shine.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
You're right right.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Because we need it now more than ever before. This
is Betsy Worthel, your host of Chatting with Betsy. I'm
past your wool Talk Radio Network, a subsidiary of Global
Media Network LLC. Talk to you soon by now.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Hi
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