Christian Talk That Rocks with Richie L 9/3/2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Start secrets five four.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Two words.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Now Rocks get in.

Speaker 4 (00:09):
I'm a discussion man blind. Now here's your host, Richie L.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, that would be me.

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little bit later on WHOA A lot, A lot happening

(01:46):
A lot, It's always a lot happening. I did not
do a show last week. I was under the weather.
I felt like I had swallowed battery acid, body aches
all over. In fact, about this time a week ago
to the date I was sleeping, I was in bad shape. Yeah,
patty eggs, the head congestion, loud to chesch congestion, and

(02:06):
an extremely bad sore throat. I was very raspy and hoarse,
losing my voice again. It just felt like a swallowed
battery acid came down with a Tuesday afternoon just kind
of hit me out of nowhere and then boom Monday,
I mean Wednesday. Rather, I was just in terrible shape.
So no show last week. That's why, due to health reasons.
But I can say now that I am by and

(02:27):
large overt and doing much better and gosh hoping I
don't have to go through that again anytime soon.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
So we have.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
An issue that I want to kind of just talk
about right off the bat and then move to some
other bigger things into the Epstein stuff. That's breaking news
on that breaking Also, we blew a Narco ship out
of the weld boat speedboat of some sort out of
the water, and the President of Columbia's not really happy
about that.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
But there's no shock there.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
People finally started settling down this past weekend over the
Cracker Barrel logo change and change the Cracker Barrel sign.
People got up in arms and there was some lashback
and people went going to Cracker Barrel and all this.

(03:23):
They did reduce some of the interiors, it looks like
from most of the stores they were kind of doing that. Anyway,
Did that sort of ruin the ambiance or atmosphere what
Cracker Barrel is all about?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Probably? Probably?

Speaker 5 (03:36):
And now they've decided, well several days ago, over the weekend,
I think it was, they decided, Okay, we're gonna keep
We're gonna keep the logo. We're just gonna go ahead
and stay with the you know, with the logo We're
not gonna mess it up and mess around with it.
We're just gonna all right, we heard you. So we're
gonna keep the original logo with the guy sitting at
the sitting on a chair in a country store by
a barrel and it says cracker barrel. And so they

(03:57):
kept that because they were going to change. It's just
kind of us plane yellow gield sign looking thing that
said cracker barrel, and people went bananas, bananas. The Cracker
Barrels had some issues for a while, a lot of
people complaining about the food. It tastes more like frozen

(04:19):
stuff that's been heated up, that kind of thing. So
they've been losing customers and having some problems anyway for
a while, and this didn't really help. Kind of a
you know, this is probably not a smart move strategically,
given all the other issues Cracker Barrel has been having
in recent years, and they've had to shut some stores
down post COVID and during COVID, they just weren't making it.

(04:41):
So they're trying to kind of rescue the company, rebrand it,
relaunch it, etcetera, etcetera. I get that if something ain't
broke don't fix it and z the old addage. Here's
the point I want to get to. People got apoplectic
about that sign change, that logo change. You would have
thought it was something sacrilegious that was going on. I mean,

(05:09):
people really got upset, really really really upset. And I
thought to myself, you know, of a lot of things
that we've got going on in this country right now,
not to just forget around the world, because cracker barrel
is pretty much more of a domestic thing. Do they
have any and I don't really have any makes so
they have any in Canada? Maybe they do, But it's

(05:31):
pretty much just of all the things we got going
on in this country. They've been going on for a while.
There are pretty pressing issues. I just thought it was
a bit hypocritical for folks to go bananas, especially a
lot of folks that call themselves conservative, but a lot

(05:51):
of folks that went bananas over that cracker barrel sign
change while you've got something going on under your knows
that I suspect most of those who went nuts over
the cracker barrel sign change barely think about, maybe aren't
even aware of, or just kind of go well, you know,

(06:15):
and it's a lot bigger and detrimental issue to you
personally if you own a home or in some cases,
if you just own a car. Certain kinds of personal
property is a heck of a lot bigger issue than
a stupid sign change. And it's the issue of property taxes,

(06:38):
which in most parts of the country are going through
the roof, and in most parts of the country, and
there are exceptions. There are exceptions. If you own a
home that's even paid for no mortgage payment, you really don't.
The city the county of this own it. Don't put

(07:03):
your property taxes for a while. You'll see who owns it.
A judge will tell you who owns it, because there's
a perpetual lean in most cases. No, no, there's exceptions,
but in most cases, in most municipalities, in most jurisdictions,
there is what's known as a perpetual lean held by
the city, county, in state against your property forever, even

(07:29):
if you pass it on, even if somebody gets it
to inheritance, or even if you sell it, which effort
doesn't matter. In the end, you don't own it because
he who holds the lian ultimately owns the property, and
it ain't you. I'm talking about you. If you paid
your mortgage off, there's no more mortgage pment. You have
a mortgage burning party invited everybody owner you know over

(07:52):
you know, you have the brads and the Burghers and whatever.
The stake's on the grill, and you fired up that grill,
you with your mortgage agreement with whoever you had it with.
Excuse me, well, I got news for you. Still, in
most cases there are exceptions, but in most cases, you
still don't own the house. And people just said, well,
you know, no, it's not a well, you know, it's

(08:14):
pretty stinking bad. Where's the outrage against that? Oh, we're
gonna have outrage over a sign. Oh, we're gonna have
outrage over a Budweiser commercial with a trans idiot in it. Oh,
we're gonna have outrage over this, outrage over that. And

(08:38):
in the meantime, hum, how many of you are getting
outraged to the point of let's do something about it?
Over ridiculous property taxes? Now Here in the communist Wealth
of Virginia where I live, you pay property taxes on
your car. Yeah, even if it's broke down and up

(09:01):
on two cinderblocks in your backyard. You pay property taxes
on it as long as you own it. If you don't,
they come get it. Sometimes they put a boot on it,
lock it where you can't drive it. But sometimes they
just get the tow truck coming to haul it off,
take it to the impound lot. If you don't pay
the property tax on your car, and you got to
pay those every year, and it's your car. And again

(09:23):
there are some exceptions, but not many. Do you pay
that priperty tax on your car. Now, there's a lot
of places, a lot of states and municipalities. Well, if
you have if you have a motor boat, fishing boat
a certain size with whatever, you pay property tax on it.
Some unipolities called a use tax, a tax bying. The

(09:45):
other name is still a tax rosebany On. The name
is still a rose. Spider banning. Other name is still
a spider.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Right, So.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You have to pay this because again there's a lean
on it. I'm saying, you've paid the note on it,
you own it outright.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Well, no, you don't skip a property tax payment or two,
and you'll find out exactly who owns it, so you
never really own the property. So this illusion or delusion
of property of property ownership. In most places in this country,

(10:22):
there are exceptions. Is just that it is an illusion.
It's a delusion, and people just accept it and swallow
and it goes on very little pushback. Now Florida, there's
been some remember number of years back, they dropped the
They said, look, people with a home value, if the

(10:43):
value praise values under a certain amount of dollars, they
don't even have to pay property tax. In some municipalities.
If you're a disabled vetteran no property tax. Or some cases,
if you're over a certain age sixty five or something,
no property I mean, are there are exceptions to this, okay,
but for them or their property taxes maybe next to nothing.

(11:04):
But with those exceptions out of the way, in most cases,
in most places in this country, you do not own
your property. I'm talking about actually paid the moorage. Look
at your title or your deed. If it says tenant,
well that's what you are. If you rent an apartment,
tells you right there, you're not really an odor, you're
a tenant. Well, well, my property, we've got a joint

(11:26):
tenancy with writer survivorship. Yeah, tenancy tenant tells you you
don't own it. Now, if your property is what's called
a loadial, and that means, you know, you can trace
it back probably to a land grant from way back
in the days, a couple three hundred years ago or something.
This just been passed down in generation generation. A lot
of farms like that, for example, certain states like that.

(11:49):
Then typically you're not going to have a real estate
property taxes on that property. Typically, but unless your property
is a loadial, you're paying it. They don't let you
hear something. Ron de Santa said speaking of Florida about
property taxes. This he said, this is about two I

(12:11):
want to say, a couple of months ago. I've been
holding on.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
To this one. He's been wanting to get into the subject.
Let me listen.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Let me let you listen to this clip again. This
is Ronda Santas, governor of Florida, probably a presidential candidate
in the next go round for a president. Of course
you'll be going up against Jade Vance, I would imagine.
But let me let you hear him. In this state,
they did whittle back its property taxes some for folks.

(12:41):
Of course, you know any time a state does that.
I saw it in Texas when I lived there. Well,
here comes around your local appraiser, because the local taxing
authorities say, well, you know, yeah, okay, they they lowered
the property tax caps, they lowered the rates, and they
did this and did that. But here's our here's our
way around it. We'll just over appraise the value. Yeah,

(13:02):
well we'll say, instead of that house being two one
thousand dollars, we'll see it's worth two hundred and fifty thousand.
Then see, then that way we'll get more money because
unless they capped the appraisers, which sometimes they don't. You know,
they'll say, well, the rachel want to be capped at this,
and in fact we're on lower the right, just tiny
bit down to this. You give some property tax relief. Well,

(13:22):
but it's not because then again the look, if they
don't cap the local appraiser as well, then local appraiser
gets a whisper in the ear. Look, they've they've capped
the property tax, but we really need you to go
in and really give that give that appraisal of that
property a lot higher than normal appraisal. Oh, homeowners like
that anyway, because now they can sell their house from more.

(13:43):
So don't no worry, they won't fight it, no way,
I'll fight out down to the courthouse. You know, come,
we won't come to privatey tax office and fight it.
And if they do, we just say, hey, look quick,
quick complaining because we raise the value of your home.
See they play tricks like that limit that you're this
clip from Wrong Desentives.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
It's the higher taxes, just hire property taxes to pay
for these spending habits. And you know, these property taxes,
it's like you buy a home, you buy land. You know,
maybe you buy the home outright, but maybe you pay
off a mortgage over thirty years and then okay, you've
paid off the mortgage, you bought the land. You've been

(14:18):
taxed many times. It's like is it your property or not?
Just for being on your property, you got to write
a check to the government every year. So you're basically
paying rent to the government to live on your own property.
And our homestead exemption is not strong enough to help
these folks because the property gets assessed so high. And

(14:39):
that's the thing. If you buy a home for three
hundred thousand dollars and you know there's certain tax, well
then what ten years later they say it's worth seven
hundred thousand and so, and they say you know, there's
homestead stuff that helps protect you to a certain extent,
but you're paying more and a lot of people can't
afford that. So I think that that's a big issue,
and I know we're going to be really looking at

(15:00):
ways to bring people relief from that, because I think
it's been really something that's pinching a lot of homeowners,
particularly seniors on fixed income. But the reality is is
people have seen and this is not the state. We
don't control this. You know, we've not allowed any of
that stuff to happen. We've been cutting taxes, but people
have seen their property tax property tax liability go up

(15:21):
over these last years because the property is being assessed
higher and higher. And the reality is is you don't
really know how much your home is worth until someone
offers you money and is willing to pull the trigger
on a sale. That's how a market works. You can
say it's worth this much, but if no one's willing
to come and offer you that much, then why should
you pay taxes on that amount? And so there's a

(15:43):
lot of things that need to be done with that.
But as part of our Doze initiative, our State Task
Force will look into local government expenditures by utilizing publicly.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Vel So there you have that, I mean, I mean,
you have this these games being played by local governments.
And really the whole property tax thing is a holover
from the days of kings and queens and you have
the founding father's era to sort of blame for this. Now,

(16:18):
early on in our nation's history, there were areas that
they did do away with property taxes for certain things
and certain types of homes. But even like in Texas
with a homestead exemption. We had a homestead exemption on
my home in Austin, Texas kind of reduced the property
taxes a little bit, but it was a state homestead exemption,
was a city homestead exemption. Austin was the only large

(16:41):
city in Texas it didn't have a city homestead exemption.
All the other big cities did. Because you have only
allowed one homestead exemption on one property and that was
it in your lifetime, and that was the lifetime of
that property, and that was it. And it helped a
teeny bit. It helped a little bit, but not a lot.
And it was one of the factors that drove us

(17:02):
out of the town because the property taxes and the
appraisals were just just off the charts.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
It was.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
It was nuts.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
I mean, you you could live in the house, it
was paid for, and ten years later your property taxes
were almost what your payment, your your mortgage payment was
a month, you know, ten, fifteen, twenty years earlier. It
was ridiculous. And that kind of subfl was that Ronda
Santus is talking about. I mean, do you really own
your home or not. Even in the early days of

(17:39):
our Republic, there were some places just really didn't have
much of property taxes in terms of homes. Now that
property tax your cows and your horse and your wagon,
maybe your barn. But a lot of times you left
your home alone unless your home settled a certain large
amount of acres, like if you said one thousand eight
or something, then they might quit property tax at But
for the most part, the average pioneer on you know,
on a homestead or whatever they were left. But then

(18:02):
once we moved into the progressive era late nineteen hundreds,
early eighteen hundreds, I mean the twentieth century, early the
early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds progressed.
When the progressive era started kicking in so to speak. Well,
then we saw a lot of cities getting creative with

(18:23):
this stuff and used the arguments, well, we're incorporated, so
you know, you kind of don't own your property because
you're part of this corporate city. You know, there's laws,
and there's this, and there's financial stuff and there blah
blah blah blah. So these games started being played, and
then surrounding counties that were world going, well, you know,

(18:44):
that's kind of good argument too, we'll use that. We'll
use that to raise funds too. And then the whole
thing just spread, and by the latter half of the
nineteen hundreds, huh, it was tougher and tougher and tougher
to find a neighborhood, to find a town in a
rural town, to find a county, to find a state anywhere,
any place, any where you weren't being hammered with property

(19:05):
taxes of all sorts, actually not just business property. But
this is holdover stuff from the days of King George.
This is holdover stuff from the days of kings and
vassal lords. Wait a minute, I thought we declared independence
from all that nonsense. Why are we still paying tributes

(19:26):
to the king.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Either?

Speaker 5 (19:29):
I own the property or I don't. So while you
whine about a sign for a stupid restaurant, folks, just
understand what's going on under your nose that you really
ought to be screaming up and down about and blasting
on Twitter and Facebook and everything else. Who cares about

(19:52):
a dumb cracker barrel sign? I mean, really, I think
Jesus called this straining at gnats and swallowing hammels.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
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A lot of the so called peace loving Muslims, they
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(22:44):
It should be roughly morning time there on that side
of the planet.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
All right.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
So moving from that craziness, let's get into this craziness.
So the Epstein saga continue. Looks like stuff coming out
now according to.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
With me, is I pull up this? I got so
much here, guys, I'm just looking at so much, all right. So,
according to.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
House Overside folks, there is a lot of documentation, a
lot of documentation, ninety five pages and growing. Apparently no
House Overside Committee is releasing that number of pages of
Epstein related documents. It's being reported by Christina Leila, the

(23:35):
Gateway Pundit comer says it we'll continue producing those records
while ensuring the redaction of victims' identities because one of
the reasons they were sort of slow walking this thing
as well. We got to go there with you know,
we've got to make sure we don't release victims' identities
without their consent and blah blah blah, and innocent persons
that might just be sort of bystanders kind of caught
up in this thing, that are actually innocent and we

(23:55):
don't want accuse somebody. News I was we had early
cover law. Okay, well you can to gum and talk
at the same time.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I think I get that. Uh.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Anyway, the House Committee, this is James Comber, how the
House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform released thirty three
thousand turned out five pages. They started doing this yesterday afternoon.
That would be Tuesday afternoon, today being Wendesday, the third.
If you're listening live, if not to worry about it,
I've Epsteen related records that were provided by the US
Department of Justice.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
On August the fifth.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Chairman Comber issued a subpoena for records related to the
mister Jeffrey Epstein, and the Department of Justice has indicated
will continue producing those records while ensuring the redaction of
victim identities in any child sexual abuse material they over
Psyche Committee said, well, they're trying, they're trying not to
accidentally produce kitty porn.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I get that.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Late last month, the Justice Department delivered thousands of documents
related to Jeffrey Epstein to the House Overside Committee. House
Overside Chairman James Comber previously subpoened all documents and communications
related or referring to Jeffrey Epstein and Glaine Maxwell or
or just Laane Maxwell or Jelaane Maxwell or Glaine Maxwell,
or have you choose to pronounce that I've seen I've

(25:06):
heard her name pronounced tenderferent ways. I swear anyway that
Ms Maxwell. Let's put it that way. By August the nineteenth,
as Comer announced the new development. Last month, Deputy Attorney
General Todd Blanche released audio of his interview with Ms Maxwell.
As tgp's paulse Around reported, Maxwell was interviewed for two
days two days by Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and

(25:30):
as reward, was transferred to Camp fed Low Security camp
that's in Brian, Texas. If you're wondering in prison, normally
reserved to inmates at the end of their sentences unless
they are cooperating with witnesses. In other words, it's a
little bit more of a club med kind of a
federal prison. I guess she can have conjugal visits and

(25:52):
have a finger painting time and massage therapist and gourmet
meals and you know, doesn't sound like really that bad
of a deal. It's kind of like what I got
to break alaw to get into that place, RIGHTDOJ has
released the complete audio recordings of the two day interview
from ms Maxwell in the interest of transparency. All Right,

(26:13):
so there's that, uh, I mean, finally, finally, and I'm
still kind of scratching my head a bit.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
As to.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
A few months back some of the some of the
pushback from the Trump administration on this. I don't get it,
because that was something he ran on. I was like, well,
you know, we're gonna get all this stuff out, Okay,
then he got kind of weird about it. Well why,
I don't know. I'm still kind of scratching my head
on that one. They clang, there's nothing in there that uh,

(26:53):
points points a hard finger at him, you know, So
I don't know, I don't know what that's all about.
I guess we will find out. But yeah, finally, finally.
But here's the thing, though, whenever I hear James Comer saying, well,
we're going to do this, We're going to that, We're

(27:14):
gonna bomb this.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
They kind of do.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
But then nobody pays any price, or almost nobody. Have
you noticed, Well, we got evidence that suggests and we
got evidence on this, the hard facts on that, blah
blah blah, this and man, and then nothing really happens.
So pardon me if I kind of just yawn and
stretch and scratch a little bit here you guys talking

(27:39):
about yourself for a moment. Oh oh sorry, I got
it in the middle of a podcast. Yeah, uh uh,

(28:00):
that's kind of my reaction when I sort of hear
all this. I mean, maybe maybe this time they'll get them.
I don't know, I don't know, but I'm not holding
my breath. I am not holding my breath. They put
up a big fuss, but then, you know, not a
lot happens, but we'll see, we'll see. Maybe this time,

(28:21):
maybe it'll be different, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
And if other names, it looks like there's other folks
you're going to be mentioned some stuff is gonna come
out because well, according to some of the some of
the victims, Uh, looks like maybe some names you're gonna

(28:45):
get dropped. Maybe some folks will have to account for
themselves that we didn't even know about speak what about
Carlos Kassia the blaze.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Victims have identified other persons of interest, so over Secondmitte
chair says members of Congress had a two hour meeting
with Epstein victims. Republic Jereman of the House Oversie Committee
said that some persons of interest and that Jeffrey Epstein
case had been named by victims. That was during their
interview of those victims.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
On Monday.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
The members met with six victims for over two hours
in a closed door meeting, according to Republican Representative James
Comer of Kentucky. Afterward, he told reporters that they had
learned of some additional names that day. There was outrage.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
It was both.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
I would describe it as heartbreaking and infuriating. A representative
for the committee, Pardon Me, said the people identified possessed
information about Epstein or those who allegedly participated in his
sex trafficking ring. Some of the ladies have shared these
stories publicly before, but at least two of the women
had never told their stories before, one for the very
first time in the room, and so there were tears

(29:55):
in the room. Well, they're probably under oath, so they're
going to you know, probably a little more transparent than otherwise.
That According to Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson of Louisiana,
there was outrage.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
It was both.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
I would describe it as heartbreaking and infuriating. Yet that
justice has been delayed for so long, Well, yeah, it's
pretty infuriating. Also, under the committee released a trove of
thirty ninety five pages from the Epstein files. That was
kind of a later in the afternoon document on.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
You know, Labor day.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Who's going to read that, right, because you're you're still
eating your hot dogs and your hamburgers and whatever else.
Though it was unclear what percentage of the release was
new material, DJ has indicated it this is a quote.
DJ has indicated that will continue producing records while in
ensuring the redaction of victim identities and Charldibu's material. Comber
Is said on social media, but I want to say

(30:51):
quote was a bipartisan Is anything I've seen in nine
years I've been here, Comber added about the meeting with
the victims, even ought to say some of the women
in the room began to be groomed by Epstein and
his accomplished MS Maxwell and others thirty years ago, Johnson,
And I mean some of these women are in their
forties and fifties. Now, some of them began civil litigation

(31:11):
against Epstein and the Epstein evils and everything associated with
it twenty years ago. He continued. This has gone on
for a long long time. They shared their stories.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Now.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
President Donald Trump has lashed out at his supporters who
continued to demand more information about the Epstein case and
accused them of falling for the Democratic scheme. Well, this
is bipartisan, he called it their new scam.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
I don't know about that. So I think he's miss
calculating that that political football right there. Yes, of course
the Democrats are going to make hay out of it,
and some other reasons why some of the Democrats want
this stuff out because they're hoping they'll find something in
their little point of Trump and you know, hurt him politically.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
They may, they may not.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
I think some Democrats are are genuinely concerned about these
women's well being regardless of who's in the White House.
But some of course they're just trying to take a
shot at the Orange Man, and he knows that. But
so what if he's got nothing to hide, who cares
thought back at him? So I'm kind of scratching my
head on that one. I mean, if he has nothing
to hide. Ah, Epstein victims press lawmakers to support bill

(32:20):
to release hidden files and say Americans will be appalled.
There will be appalled. Lourie for Epstein victim says the
government has mistreated them. Just being reported by Greg Norman,
Fox News. In fact, some Epstein victims is speaking publicly
for the first time. Marina Leserda I let she was
abused by sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. She was speaking publicly

(32:44):
of the first time today on Capitol Hill. I'll let
you hear that clip in just a moment. Edward spoke
during a news conference that is part of an effort
by Representative Rocanna, a Democrat Democratic California, and Thomas Massey,
Republican from TECHIY. He passed through the House procedural motion
known as a discharge petition, which can force the House

(33:06):
vote urging the Justice Department to release the Epstein fils completely. Cohere,
we file lawsuits against Jeffrey Epstein, against his state, against
two financial institutions JP Morgan and Deutsche Bank that proved
that they provided knowingly provided the financial infrastructure for his
sex trafficking operation. Unfortunately, all the documents and evidence that
we have worked so hard to gather hide behind protective orders,

(33:28):
confidential reality agreements, and bank secrecy laws.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Edward said.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Now, of course, Epstein and Maxwell were both indicted on
federal sex trafficking charges coming from Epstein's years of abuse
of underage girls. But he went on to say that
that is why this discharge petition is so important. While
we have seen the documents, you haven't. And when you
see the documents, you're going to be appalled, and the
American people deserve to see everything. He added, He said,

(33:55):
whether you sign this discharge petition, it would mean nothing
is off limits. The documents and in the possession of
the CIA should be made available. Those in possession of
the FBI going back decadeshould be made available. The sec
financial record should be made available. Ewarts continued as he
stood alongside the victims. Himan honest everybody knows that evil
flourishes in the darkness, corruption flourishes in secrecy. It is

(34:15):
time now to make a difference for the women that
are behind me.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Anyhow, let me let you hear this clip from one
of the victims. And she actually was They started grooming
her when she was a teenager. Her friends told her
that she was a Brazilian immigrant. Her family was immigrants
from Brazil and some friends he started telling her about

(34:44):
you know this guy that'll pay you to give old
men massages and whatever. Anyway, you'll hear her talking about
some of that. It's about three minute clip. Otherwise they
get into copyright issues, so this is a three minute clip.
This was ultimately provided by Fox News. But I'm gonna
let you hear the clip, and I've got some other
stuff I won't let you here. In a little bit,

(35:05):
I come from the breaks. I will play this and
go to break and then we'll pick this up on
the other side. But they we'll let you hear this clip.

Speaker 10 (35:12):
Oh everyone, I'd like to say thank you everyone for
being here today on this very powerful and special day
for all of us.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
Here.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
My name is Marina Laserta. I was minor victim one
in federal indictment of Jeffrey Epstein in New York in
twenty nineteen. I was one of a dozen of girls
that I personally know who are forced into Jeffrey's mansion
on nine East seventy one Street in New York City
when we were just kids. Today is the first time
that I ever speak publicly about what happened to me.

(35:47):
I never thought that I would find myself here. The
only reason that I am here is because it feels
like the people who matter in this country finally care
about what we have to say. As an immigrant from Brazil,
so I feel empowered knowing that the little girl struggling
to get by at fourteen and fifteen years old finally
has a voice. For the first time, I feel like

(36:10):
I matter as an American. I was only fourteen years
old when I met Jeffrey. It was the summer of
high school. I was working three jobs to try to
support my mom and my sister when a friend of
mine in the neighborhood told me that I could make
three hundred dollars to give an older guy a massage.
It went from a dream job to the worst nightmare.

(36:34):
Jeffrey assistant Leslie Groff would call me and tell me
that I needed to be at the house so often
that I ended up dropping out of high school before
ninth grade, and I never went back. From fourteen to
seventeen years old, I went and worked for Jeffrey instead
of receiving an education. Every day I hoped that he

(36:55):
would offer me a real job as one of his
assistant or some thing something important. I would finally have
made it big as like we say, the American dream
that they never came. I had no way, I had
no way out. I was until he finally told me

(37:16):
that I was too old. There are many pieces of
my story that I can't remember no matter how hard
I try. The constant state of wonder causes me so
much fear and so much confusion. My therapist is that
my brain is just trying to protect it self. But
it's so hard to begin to heal knowing that there

(37:37):
are people out there who know more about my abuse
than I do. The worst part is that the government
is still in possession right now of the documents and
information about that could help me remember and get over

(38:00):
all of this maybe and help me heal. They have
documents with my name on them that we're confiscated from
Jeffrey Epstein's house.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Okay, then.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
She's a victim that's willing to let it all hang out,
if you will. Part of the expression, I don't think
she's too worried about reactions or whatever. Just just put
it out there, put it out there, get it out there.
And we how many times have we have we watched
something slow walk because it's probably pointing back to some
big name politicos and some big name corporate types, some

(38:36):
of these Democrats that are hoping to point back to Trump.
If it may be pointed back to some of their pals,
I don't know. But whoever points to it points to
get it out, let it, let it, let us see,
let the public see what's there, so that we can
understand the extent of this, because apparently this Epstein sex

(38:59):
trafficking ring or whatever all else was going on with
that heaven knows, apparently had a lot of tentacles into
a lot of corners, into some big powerful folks and
some big powerful corners. All right, well, let's let's find out.
Let's see what's what, Let's see what's going on. And yeah,
I think the likelihood is I don't know for sure.

(39:20):
I think the likelihood was Jeffrey Epstein was off so
that stuff wouldn't come out, either out of his mouth
or otherwise. And of course they're still finding burn bags
and stuff shoved into backs of closets and backs of
file cabinets and under rugs everywhere else in the FBI
about all sorts of stuff. You know, Cash Betelling Company

(39:43):
are finding all kinds of crazy junk.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
But again, I've been saying on this show, we are
in an era of exposure and it's divine and it's
been going on for a few years. And gang, there's
more to come. I've been saying. I've been telling you
this like a broken record. There's more to come. You
ain't seen it all yet. There is more to come,
but it's it's going to get out. I think there's
a divine hand one way or the other is going

(40:09):
to push this stuff out the door. And you may
be shocked, and you may be some of you may
not like. Well, I'll kind of figured this. Some of
us skeptics might not be so shocked. But some who
thought you could trust your government a little more than
this and trust other institutions and entities and persons a
little more than this. You may be, you may be
blown away by what you see and hear, but let

(40:31):
the chips fall with the chips are going to fall.
Let it all come out, and things are coming out
all over the place. And I've got more stuff we're.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Gonna be talking about. It's kind of exposure, stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
When we get back. A representative, a woman US representative
left that closed door meeting in tears, almost hysterics.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
We'll find out why.

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Come on, all right, We're coming on. So we had a.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
We had a US representative leave the victims hearing the
full blown panic attack court to witnesses. It's being reported
by Eric macnewsmax dot com. Representative Thomas masseew Republican Rocanna
of Florida. They brought forward victims of Jeffrey Epstein and
Maxwell uh And during Tuesday's private oversight. Here went on

(43:01):
Monday and Tuesday, but they're in Tuesday's private oversight hearing.
Representative Nancy Mace, she's Republican from South Carolina who has
previously spoken about being a rape survivor herself, was seen
leaving the victims hearing in tears and declined to answer
reporters questions. Moment highlighted the emotional weight of the proceedings
as lawmakers continue examining the Epstein case. Quote, since it's

(43:29):
already being reported, yes, I left the oversight briefing with
Epstein victims early Mace rod On X as a recent
survivor not two years in, at a very difficult time
listening to their stories full blown panic attacks, sweating, harbord, ventilating, shaking,
I can't breathe. I feel the immense pain of how
hard all victims are fighting for themselves because we know
absolutely no one will fight for us. Then she put

(43:52):
God bless all survivors. The emotional meeting, which lasted two
and a half hours, brought together six Epstein victims and lawmakers,
including overside Cherriot Comber. Johnson later called the session both
heartbreaking and infuriating Comen and the victims that identified new
persons of interest all that so I already talked you
about that. Now Johnson is under fire, the Speaker of

(44:13):
the House publican speaker of the House, underfire from Massy
or for proceeding, for proceeding too meticulously during Comber's praise
for freeing the oversight committee to take the investigation wherever
it leads. So Johnson, being ever cautioned cautious, is trying

(44:34):
to sort of drag feet on this a little bit.
Makes you wonder why. And Massy had wrote Connor like, no,
let's let's let it all. Let's get it all out.
And I'm kind of with them on this. It's like,
let's let's get this thing. Let's get it out there.
There's been enough feet dragging, enough excuse making, enough whining, enough,
Enough is enough. In other words, quote some of the

(44:56):
ladies who have shared these stories publicly before, but at
least two women had never told their story before, one
for the very first time.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
There was outage. It was both.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
I would describe it as heartbreaking and infuriating that justice
has been delayed so long and it's still being delayed.
That's part of what's happening here. Get it out there.
I don't care if the Orange man goes apoplectic in
his hairketches on fire. I don't care if speaker Johnson, uh,
you know, runs around and whines and wrings his hands,
So what who cares? In fact, some of the women

(45:26):
in the groom and says, there is a quote, some
of the women in the room began to be groomed
by Epstein and his accomplices thirty years ago. These brave
young women. Epstein and his accomplices stole their innocence, stole
the very lives in some cases. And now reports are
coming out. I was hearing today, just not long before
this microphone, that it may that there may be over

(45:47):
a thousand gang, over a thousand of victims, many of
whom are just now starting to come forward and just
now contacting the Justice Partment and just now contacting their
you know, their representative in Congress or whatever. And some
of these are from around the world or from other
countries like the UK and parts of euro up to
everything else. Over one thousand victims, they estimate, perhaps, and

(46:10):
some of them are coming forward now for the very
first time. Some of them are just trying to remain
in the shadows, like, look, I was just a bad
chapter of my life, and I want to remember it.
You know, that's fine, that's your option. They got the
right to do that. But more coming forward. I mean,
this thing is kind of in some ways just beginning.
It really is, and of course it is heartbreaking. But

(46:31):
this thing was pretty extensive, and Epstein and Maxwell both
and others that were probably in there with them had
I mean, they had an extensive operation going here, a
very extensive operation they went on for a number of years.

(46:53):
This was just a little side hustle at Epstein to add,
this was kind of like his main gig in some aspects.
And of course he was doing this in large part
to blackmail people.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Maybe he was lying to some politician or some world
leader or some big shop business guy or some bank
head or whatever and saying, look, you know, here's a
little party favorite right here. She's nineteen, or she's twenty,
with naturality, she was sixteen or seventeen or maybe younger,
who knows. And the deed was done if you will,

(47:24):
and all that, and then you know Epstein's got him,
now that I've got you on tape, or now that
I know that you just did something here with a
sixteen or seventeen year old. Now this deal I was
talking to you about, can we go ahead and finish
that up? You see what I'm saying, it's blackmail. It's

(47:45):
a blackmail scheme. Or you know, keep sending me five
thousand bucks a month and you know we'll call it
even Well, get enough people that you do that to
five thousand a month here, ten thousand a month there.
That adds up to a ton of money. That adds
up to a ton of money. So he was using

(48:06):
the innocence of these young gals in many cases to
blackmail people for a host of reasons, or the sweetened
deals that he was in, whichever, whatever. And there's Miss
Maxwell right there, you know, basically his madam, his girlfriend

(48:28):
or whatever. She was right there with him grooming these
young ladies. The whole thing is sick. It's absolutely sick.
And unless he got right with Christ right before he died,
and I don't know there's too much evidence of that.
Of course, he's in the hottest spot and you know
where probably and Ms Maxwell may be joining him if

(48:53):
she doesn't get herself right with the Lord. But this is,
this apparently has a lot of time Nicles. I mean again,
just it's just so far, and there's there's more to come,
thirty three thousand pages and some change. And they're saying, look,
we want everything from the CIA, the FBI, whoever else,

(49:14):
d o J, whoever else, anybody that's got anything. Former presidents,
let's let's let's let's get it all out there. Don't
care whose feelings it hurts, who, who ends up looking bad?
Who cares some celebrity looking bad, some political looking bad,
some world leader looking bad, some big shock, corporate exectly

(49:36):
looking bad.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Who cares.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Let's get it all out there, let's get it, get
it over with. But anyway, represented Mace was obviously very
upset by this, understandably so understandably so. But let's let
the let's let the chips fall. The chips are gonna fall.
Get this stuff out there. Will the cheer clip for

(50:01):
maybe see news about this? And again this sort of
back and forth it's happening between Massey of Kentucky and
Roconna and I guess maybe the Trump administration, but probably
more Speaker of the House Johnson. And again, what is
Johnson afraid of? I mean, yeah, I get that you

(50:22):
need to make sure that people who don't want to
be mentioned in this thing aren't mentioned. I get that,
But my gosh, you've had plenty of time here. This
isn't something that somebody just requested yesterday. There's been plenty
of time to sort through these things. I mean, don't
I mean, you've got people. Don't you come on that
we taxpayers are paying for. I mean, come on now, Speaker.

Speaker 12 (50:43):
Mike Johnson, along with Oversight Chairman James Comer. This is
following a two and a half hour bipartisan meeting that
they had with six women that claim to be Jeffrey
Epstein victims. And what we heard initially from Speaker Johnson
is that after that meeting, he thinks there may be
as many as a thousand victims that not all of

(51:04):
them want to come forward. And while he promised the
American people full disclosure and maximum transparency, he also reiterated
time and time again his priority as well as the presidents,
in protecting the identity of the victims that do not
want to come forward as this investigation ensues. What we
heard from both of them here is that they've collected

(51:25):
some thirty four thousand documents and that they are starting
to upload those so that the American people can see them.
They've subpoenaed for a lot more. They've also subpoenaed additional
people as well as six former Attorney Generals, Alex Acosta
as well as Pam Bondi, and that is part of
getting some more of these documents, in which they then
said that they do want to share with the American people. Again,

(51:48):
it was a two and a half hour meeting that
they had here with victims of Jeffrey Epstein's and so
what they have decided is they want to try to
move forward. They feel like what Thomas Massey is trying
to do with his discharge petition is now a moot
point because they feel as if they want to go farther.
They felt like this was a bipartisan meeting and a

(52:08):
bipartisan effort here, although there still are a lot of
questions and a lot of those questions around the Department
of Justice and what will be released here as more
information starts to come forward. I want to bring in
our ABC News Alex Mallen, who's there at the Justice Department,
and so Alex, we know that there's a lot of
people asking questions here. There's multiple investigations going on, and

(52:29):
I think people feel like this has taken far too
long for something that the Republicans said would be a
priority to release the information, to release some of these
Epstein files here. But when you hear from the House
Oversight Committee, they would like you to believe that this
ball is certainly rolling forward in that direction.

Speaker 9 (52:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (52:50):
I mean, but we're hearing obviously the exact opposite from
both Thomas Massey and then his Democratic counterpart Rocana, who
are really heavily pushing this idea that there is being there,
something that's being hidden by this Justice Department and this
White House, which is why they've put forward this discharge petition,
which now they are going to seek to get two
hundred and eighteen signatures with the help of they're hoping

(53:12):
two hundred and twelve Democrats and a handful of Republicans
who if they do back that just discharge petition, this
will be brought for a full vote on the House
floor regardless of what House Speaker Mike Johnson is saying.
And if that happens again, I mean there's big caveats.
It's going to have to go then to the Senate,
and then it would have to go to President Trump's desk.
Would he sign off on something like this that directs

(53:33):
his own Justice Department to handover files? Now, that bill
does include a provision that will require the Justice Department
to redact any names of victims.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
Yeah, so people will be protected. Victims will be protected
by this thing, because there's a proviso in that for that.
But you know, we'll have to see how this plays out.
It's just whenever I start to see robots being thrown
up and feet dragging on things, like this, I tend
to get a little skied up, going a little nervous.

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Of course, on this show, I've been saying that this
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There's humpting different ways to get this show downloaded when
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the websites as you can click on and go to

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So it's just it's everywhere, all right, no chooses for
not listening. Being reported by Jim Hoff the Gateway Pundit,
there's an attorney that's reading to call Pambondi to testify
in the Seth rich murder case.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Remember that claims documents will.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Point to an inside job at the DNC if the
guy has pattern of obfuscation, as bureau still refuses to
disclose any metadata from DNC staffers electronic devices, that is
to say Seth Riches. Now let me insert here. Remember
Bill Bennie, William Bennie, he's the one that helped develop

(01:00:38):
I think it was back in the late nineties, early
two thousands, to develop some stuff for the NSA and
the government on how some programs that would help them
snoop on folks. And you remember when the whole NSA
lid got blown off by one Eric Snowden. Then suddenly
he went from a b lister guest you know, just
appeared in his conspiracy theorist guy on like AMC to

(01:01:00):
Coast with George Nory and all that, to suddenly everybody
wanted him. Well, you might recall, not too long after
Seth's murder, not too long after it came out that
the DNC service computers whatever were hacked. They thought it
was the Russians, part of the whole Russian collusion thing.
They thought the Russians hacked it. And the DNC went
and hired an organization called Crowdstrack that was kind of like,

(01:01:21):
well maybe kind of sorting, you know, they were sort
of iffy. Well, he put together he got hold of
some of the metadata that he could get hold of
and looked at some stuff what he could get his
hands on him but a whole lot. But anyway, he
put forward a task force William Binny and most of
the folks that task not all, but most were unanimous
that the email hack, that the downloads of sensitive DNC info,

(01:01:46):
that the email hacks took place with Hillary Clinton and
some other folks email exchanges, that that was an inside job.
And they came to that conclusion because of the speed
of transfer of the metadata. It was much faster than
anything that was commercially available at the time from In
other words, someone in Russia or Romania or wherever trying

(01:02:08):
to hack in to the DNC servers uploading or downloading anything,
they would have run into a bit of traffic on
the Internet, they would have run into a little bit
of a bog down. Doubt that they couldn't have done it,
but it wouldn't have downloaded it. The speeds that they
were looking at, they were looking at upload speeds, download speeds,

(01:02:30):
that kind of thing. Upload speeds. Download speeds of in
the ballpark of twenty six twenty seven bits mbps's megabytes
per second, okay, and BPS's megabytes per second. Now the

(01:02:52):
fastest advertised on the East Coast and the DC relative
DC Northern Virginia, southern Maryland and blah blah blah region,
the del Marva area, whatever, the fastest commercially available download
upload speeds that you can find at that time. Up
the upload speeds rather at that time, not download speed.

(01:03:12):
With upload speeds at that time was approximately between fifteen
mpbss and sixteen mbps's roughly give or take for the
upload speeds at that time. For someone to have packed
in and uploaded back to their computer the stuff they
were hacking, that's as fast.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
As it could have gone.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
They were showing in the metadata that there was transfer
speeds of in the ballpark are right next to twenty
seven mbpsis.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
These are uploads. You see the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
And by the way I can verify, I can verify
commercially from commercial carriers, what the highest speeds were at
that time, Okay, in twenty sixteen. At that time, because
I happened to be working at a company that was

(01:04:07):
contracted with the Comcast Exfinity, NBCUniversal to do troubleshooting remotely.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Over the phone, I was at a call center for
a little while. Well that's one of my jobs.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
So I was down here in southern Virginia, so I
was familiar with what the advertised mbps uploads speeds, the
fastest speeds that were available at that time on the
internet commercially in the region was being offered by Comcast,
and that's what they were, roughly fifteen sixteen or so mbpsist.

(01:04:44):
So how in the world could somebody get up upload
speeds of that of that speed of the twenty you know,
close to the twenty seven mbps mark twenty six, twenty
seven of those higher speeds if they were hacking Russia
or somewhere and having to go through that Comcast system
in that corridor the country, or whoever they were going through,

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because that was as fast as you could get. So
you see the problem there. So we'll Bill Bennion and company,
many of them, most of them and his crew he
had about eleven twelve people came to the same conclusion
that this had to be an inside job. I did
at the time too, that somebody had to be sitting there,
I mean within reagionable proximity of the servers and computers,

(01:05:26):
you know, uploading this stuff on a I don't know,
a memory stick or a or a you know, directly,
not going through through some outside network right there on
a memory stick or on a laptop or something sitting
right there in the building somewhere in order to get
this stuff all right. And you might remember Julian Assan,

(01:05:51):
she's buddies with Kim dot Com. Well, Seth Rich was
buddies with Kim dot Com. So I'm throwing all that down.
I'm in just a minute, I'm gonna play a clip
from dot com that is it's kind of very Uh.
This was done in twenty fifteen when Hillary and Donald
Trump were just trying to go kind of head to
head a little bit more when she was running for
Queen of America and Kim dot Com. I want you

(01:06:16):
to listen when I go to play here in just
a few minutes. I want you to listen carefully to
the clip. He was being interviewed by a reporter at
from some Asian news outlet in over Japan or South
Korea where it was from. Of course, he was in
New Zealand at the time as he was being interviewed,
because he's hiding now from our government, every other government,
because he set up if that name rings a bell,
he set up and along with some other folks and
mostly he was the man in charge, set up an

(01:06:38):
illegal share site where people could share movies and songs
and all that sort of stuff. And he's wanted by
a multiple accounts by our government for of copyright violations
and illegal distributions of copyrighted material and property right violations
for that, you know, that material for the movies and
songs and so on. He had anttorney for a long time.

(01:07:00):
They're trying to cut a deal with the FEDS and saying, look,
if you'll either either a drop or or do some
of these charges, I'll bring him to you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
Says he knows an awful lot about what's going on.
He can talk to you about seth Rich. He can
talk to you about the hacks. He can talk to
you about Julian Osage. You know, he can spill some beans.
And they said no. The Obama administration said no, we
want him now just as is. No deals, no no nothing,
no frills, he just bring him over here. And so
he's hiding out because apparently America didn't have much of
an extradition treaty with New Zealand. So he's I guess

(01:07:28):
he's still sitting there anyhow, let me finish this article. So,
ty Clevelinger, he's fired off a blistering letter to Attorney
General Pam Bondi and if he had director cash matel
And this was back in April, accusing the FBI of
flagrantly concealing critical records about the late DNC staffer Seth
Rich and the now discredited Russia coclusion narrative, because remember

(01:07:52):
part of that Russia collusion narrative was, well, it was
the Russians that hacked into the DNC servers and that's
how all this information came out, rather than seth Rich
or somebody else or maybe somebody connected with Seth Rich
or Julian Assange or who knows pull that information out directly.
They just went there with their you know, an insider
in other words, it just was already working in there,

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had access to this stuff, had access to the technology.
Could have been an it person and we don't know
yet who knows that had a memory stick or had
some kind of a laptop or some sort of a gizmode.
But to download and hack indirectly to those service and
get certain kinds of embarrassing critical info and then throw
it out there. Now again, Ty Cleveinger, he fired this
thing off.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
This letter.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
In February twenty twenty four, Clevinger demanded that the FBI
hand over the seth Rich documents that they continued to
conceal from the public. Now who was president then, well,
that would be one Joseph Biden. The fis refusal to
follow a pattern of obfuscation for years the agency had denied.
The FBI's refusal follows a pattern of oppuscation. For years,

(01:08:57):
the agency denied even possessing seth Rich's LIFEPTOP until Clevinger's
legal efforts force the fbi'd admit that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
They had it all along. Huh, what does that sound familiar?

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
When do we have Joe Biden's laptop. Well, okay, yeah
we do, but you know, uh huh. Yet the agency
still refuses to disclosed and he meta data from seth
Rich's electronic devices. Why what are they hiding?

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Why?

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Even more damning, Clevinger has already uncovered proof that the
FBIM properly with hell pages from the crowd Strike report
related to the alleged twenty sixteen DNC hacked. Now, remember
the DNC hired CrowdStrike, not the FBI. You might recall
that under testimony before Congress. You might recall, and I
talked about on the show that the then head of

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the FBI, then the head of the FBI, Jim Jim Comey, said, look,
we offered a multiple Okay, I think you said twoor
three times multiple k anyway count of paraphrasing, but jump
as general, just to get off folks to do an
assessment of all their computers. Let us have access to

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your computers. We'll tell you who hacked in if it
was a hack, they wouldn't not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Why why.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
That th we you said again, he dardio in cover
proof of the FBI and properly withheld pages from the
Crowdstar comport related to the ledged twenty sixteen DNC hack,
an event that conveniently became a political weapon against President
Donald Trump. In April, Attorney Ty Clevinger filed a motion
in federal court told the FBI in contempt for what
he calls a deliberate and wilful defiance of a court

(01:10:43):
order mandating is a court order now mandating the release
of key information related to the murdered DNC staffer of
Seth Rich. Now, you might recall that the DC police, huh,
which we're now finding her a little bit corrupt in
terms of wiggling around numbers about crime rates anyway, crime stats.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
That they just said, well, it was just a botch murder,
just a botch robbery. Rather, the murder was just a
botch robbery.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
Even though he didn't have valuable jewelry, a valuable watch,
no money, no credit cards stolen, nothing like that. He
was just gunned down, cold blood three hours of the morning,
walking home from a bar. Now, the letter obtained by
the Gay We Punted implicated former DOJ and intelligence officials
in what Cleveland Gur described as a systemic cover up

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designed to protect the Obama era deep state operatives and
their media allies. Imagine that, and of course now we're
seeing the Russia whole Rush collusion hoax thinks being blown
out of the water. Cleveland's we're representing a plaintiff, Brian
Huddleson and a Freedom of Information Acts four year lawsuit
against the FBI. Hilson's the Federal Bureau of Investigation claims

(01:11:54):
the agencies withholding documents that could unravel the official narratives
running the Richest twenty sixteen and the so called Russia
hacking of the DNC emails. This attorney argues that the
FBI refusal to release records, including those from Rich's work laptop,
is not only a violation of FOYA, but also an
attempt to shield evidence that could exonerate Russia as a

(01:12:15):
matter of fact, and point to an inside job at
the DNC and his letter to Pam Bondycash for telling
other Trump officials. Clevenger highlighted compelling evidence suggesting Rich was
a source of DNC emails published by wikileagues, not Russian
hackers as alleged by the MOW investigation and the intelligence community.
Of course, we now know the whole Russian collusion thing
was a hoax, so this just sort of falls in line.

(01:12:38):
I mean, if that was a hoax, if that was BS,
well was this and I'd speculated at the time it
was because something here didn't smell right. A lot of
us in the podcast community, a lot of us in
underground media, we're looking at this thing, going, wait a minute,
some here doesn't smell right, some here seems a little off.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
This is and add up.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Uh wiki lees foundered Juniussadia, of course, hinted at Rich's
involvement in the twenty sixteen interview, offering a twenty thousand
dollars reward for information on his murder. Pulcher Prie's winning
journalist Seymour Hirsch also claimed in a sworn deposition that
the trusted source confirmed Rich as the leaker, and of
course the dead men tell hotails right. Cleave with your

(01:13:25):
points of the fis possition of Rich's work la laptop
as a personal laptop, image, a DVD and a tape
drive items of bureau initially denied having, well, now they
have them. Well, first of all, that beggars question. First
of all, who were they covering up while they deny
having them? Cash Metel, Cash Metel needs to be all
over this thing. Despite court orders, federal court order signed

(01:13:50):
off on by a judge.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
If a federal judge tells you, mister Smith or mister
lu one of the computers that you use for your
broadcasting your show, you're handing that over to investigators or
else well, or else is you go to jail so
you cough the stuff up. But somehow, people in these bureaus,
people in the in the bowels of these administrators of

(01:14:14):
these administrations, these administrators and the bows these administrations, apparently
they think they're above the law. You and I, you know,
we go to we have us marshals pulling us out
of the house along with the FBI handcuffs, and we're
going to Levenworth and our laptops going to the FBI,
are computer or whatever we're using, uh is going along
with our cat and our dog and our goldfish to
the FBI for examination or whoever for examination. Right, But

(01:14:36):
somehow these people think that, well, who cares, I don't
care about that dumb court order of that dumb judge,
and they just keep on cruising. Two standards of legality,
two standards of justice. Let me tell you something, gang
a republic cannot stand along.

Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
Like this.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
Okay, let me explain something to you guys. Well, well
it's well that's on my mind. We're gonna break here
in a sec I'm still gonna run through this artist.
But a lot of stuff here, and I will let
you to hear when we come back to the break,
I'll let you hear Kim dot Com with this very
kind of cryptic message for one Hillary Clinton. Because Kim

(01:15:20):
dot com is not a fan of Hillary Clinton, nor
was Seth.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Rich obviously, But why is it? And have we have
we noticed a trend here? A trend line? Why is it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
That it seems like things get fudged around that the
FBI and sometimes the d o J. Of course we
know the CIA lies. That's part of their standard operational procedure.
These people fib fudge and lie. And again a two standard,
a two tiered system of justice is created. Gang our

(01:15:58):
republic cannot stand long like that. And here's the thing Trump,
during all this time, the Orange Man was the shiny
object they wanted you looking at. Oh, he's in bed
with the Russians. If not, if not literally, at least figuratively,
he's in bed with the Russians. We got this, We
got this Daussier. Oh, he was doing all kind of

(01:16:20):
crazy stuff over there in Russia with Russian hookers and
all kind of crazy Thats right, you see, that was
the shiny object to keep you from looking deeper at this.
Let's look at the orange man. Learn something, gang, And
I learned this years ago doing this because I started
doing this talk radio stuff back in two thousand at

(01:16:44):
KAOS all nine seventy AM in Austin, Texas, which is
now a Catholic radio station. It was still around, it
wasn't the time, and one of sixty seven power FM.
I learned something a long time ago. When somebody starts
shoving a shiny object in your face, it's kind of
the slide of hand tricks. And magicians do this all
the time. It's you know, and people at carnivals they

(01:17:05):
do the you know, with the three shells and the
little thing that's under the shell and they scoot. Then
they'll do something with their hands. They get your attention
off on a shiny object or a pretty girl in
a scandy clad outfit. They get you to look at
something else so that you don't really see what's going on.
It's a slid of hand, so in the mainstream media,
and certain politicians, we know who they are, the big

(01:17:27):
mouths in both parties, in Congress and in the Senate,
and there's certain talking heads on the big networks. When
they start blowing, I'm telling you that wrong, they're pointing.
When they start pointing you with the shiny object or objects,
look behind them, look at the story behind the story,

(01:17:49):
Look look at what else is going on, and think
critically and logically. Don't just swallow the propaganda that you're
being fed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I am a skeptic. I
am king of the skeptics. I say this all the time.
You'd be hard pressed to find a person in this
particular field that I'm dabbling in. You'd be hard pressed
to find a person more skeptical about things than me,
very hard pressed. And I don't have a dog in

(01:18:20):
the hunt in either party, the other two big parties,
because I'm an independent. That we are growing in number.
Last number I heard was roughly forty three percent. I
don't know how accurate that is. There's more that's more
than four and ten, which should shake the other two
big parties to their core. But I don't know they
don't seem to be rattled by much these days. But

(01:18:41):
this is the thing you've got to watch. This is
the tactic that you got to watch. And it's an
old Cold War, old school tactic. When you're being pointed
to the shiny object, which during this era was certainly
the orange man. Look what's going on around the corner

(01:19:02):
that they don't want you to see? And I knew
that at the time. I thought, no, something here smells.
I was hearing too many stuff about the Russian collusion.
Thing was had holes in it. And then Steve Dacier
was paid for it, originally by a Republican. Then he said, oh,
nobody will leave this work affection. But then the Hillary
and Company via their law firm and somebody who was

(01:19:24):
a go between between him and the law firm, and
who knows what, some kind of shady deal. And then oh, okay, well,
now we're going to use this thing, as you know,
a something to club the argument over the head with.
I mean, the whole thing. The whole thing just seemed
weird and smelled. It's like something here is off. And
my instincts were proving correct, and a lot of others, Uh,
this started this article continues, cleving You argues and that

(01:19:47):
this is a deliberate tactic to protect the narrative that
the Russian intelligence, not Rich, was behind the DNC email Leek.
He connects this to the US v uh that Kishko case,
where the FBI probably anounced that wrong, admitted a link
between rich laptop. Now again I get this and this
picture case. They admitted a link between Rich's laptop and

(01:20:08):
the prosecution of alleged Russian hackers. They at least admitted
there was a link there. Okay, well, that's interesting and convenient.
Now the literally didn't stop at the FBI. Clevenger, also
representing the Transparency Project in a separate for you case.

(01:20:29):
It's the Transparency Project versus US Department of Justice if
you want to look it up, accuses the CIA of
potentially fabricating Russian fingerprints in DNC emails to frame Russia
and undermine President Trump, Say's refusal to confirm more deny,
of course, the existence of such records, citing national security.

(01:20:50):
Of course, that's the that's the go but that's the
go behind, that's a jump behind, that's the go to. Always, well,
you do racial interesting points, and do we have information
about the murder of seth Rich and the DNC hacker
can neither confirmed it or ey that. But even if
we do, it's mary of national securities.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Shall go away. We're not gonna talk about it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
That excuse, that's the one they always jump behind. It's
a matter of national securities. So we just kind of
go bs yawn, stretch, scratch, I'm going back to snoring.
Come up with a new one. Please come up with
a new one. That is so nineteen sixty one. Let's

(01:21:28):
get a new excuse, shall we. Uh So that was
the sort of the take of the of the CIA
Clevenger call on Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gambert, who
doesn't seem to be too afraid to pull things out
and find burn bags and find other things and say, wow,
what's this? So's he's calling on Director of National Intelligence?

(01:21:49):
It would be one Tulsia gaberts. He had Director John
Ratcliffe to investigate and release these records voluntarily. He doesn't
want to go after them in court, but I wouldn't
put it. But I don't think I put it past
this guy. He's start with this thing this long. He
thinks pretty tenacious, like the kind of Loawyer you want
if you're really in trouble, right, I'm sure he's not cheap.
Aligning with President Trump's directive to declassify the Russia hoax document,

(01:22:13):
So you do have an executive order from the President
say declass fallows Russia stuff. So it would stand to
reason it would seem I don't know, just kind of
going one plus one equals two here that one Miss
Telsey gabbered and John Ratcliffe sei director now would seem

(01:22:36):
to not have much of an issue, I would think
in getting to the bomb of this thing and answering
Clevenger's calls on this. He also raised concerns about Aaron
rich Sev's brother, who allegedly sees says personal computer and
phone shortly after the murder. Aaron Subsequent lawsuits against those
suggesting his involvement in the email league, including Batowski, have

(01:22:58):
been described as part of a coordinated a lawfare campaign
to silence critics. Well, it's sure silenced one Sean Hannity
and Fox News to some extent on this. Again, that's
why you can't trust these media outlets. I don't care
who they are. I know there's a lot of quote
unquote conservatives in Magahat, whereas old Fox No, don't trust

(01:23:22):
them either. Clevenger questions why Aaron has refused to authorize
WikiLeaks that has closed what it knows about Seth's role.
And a separate letter to White House officials, including Counsel
David Worrington, Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, that's Senior
Council Stanley Woodward. Clevenger proposes bold reforms to combat the
federal governments for you violations because they're breaking the law.

(01:23:47):
He suggests appointing a chief Transparency Officer here to prosecute
bureaucrats who obstruct public access to records and advocate for
legislature legislation to criminalize for your violations modeled on Texas law.
He'd pull that crap in tech. Since you can care
who you are, you be the governor, you may just
wind up in jail. More specifically, in the Big House.

(01:24:10):
It's not very well air condition, which is not a
good idea in Texas summers in Huntsville. Yeah, uh, fertile
employees know there are no consequences for violating for you.
Clevenger rites, that's true, arguing that this impunity fuels to
bureaucracies cover up culture.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Well, yeah do.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
In fact, on Tuesday, Attorney Clevenger accused of Trump, DoD
OJ and FBI have using the Netchishko indictments as an
excuse to withhold the seth Rich documents. Clevenger accused of
Trump DJ, under the direction of Pam Bondi, perpetuating elements
of bogus Russiacclusion hoax. Clevenger added quote, If Bondie doesn't complain,

(01:24:49):
then we plan to ask the judge to order her
to declare under oath where the Robert Mueller Sham indictments
of the defendants in the the Nadjishkok defendants are still
being prosecuted in good faith. That old thing's just, in
other words, just a ball of melted wax too. And

(01:25:11):
here's some of what he's Here's actually the transcript of
Clevenger's tweet that came out. He said yesterday, I sent
an email to us DOJ attorney handling the seth Rich
Boyer case. I wish someone like Steven Miller would tell
President Trump that his own Justice Department is still perpetuating
elements of the Russia hoax. If a g PM Bonni
doesn't come clean. Then we planned to ask the judge

(01:25:33):
to order her to declare under oath whether Robertmuller Sham
indictments of those defenditis are still being prosecuted in good faith. Meanwhile,
I'm glad Representative Thomas Massy and Representative O'Connor asking about Epstein.
But why is everybody on Capitol Hill afraid to ask
about seth Ritch or those neddie Kishko environments indictments. And

(01:25:57):
my eighteen twenty twenty five letter Attorney General NEPHI had
directorc Patel and there was a link there. You can
go look at it if you go to that tweet.
By the way, question whether United States v. And ned
Tishko case number one eighteen CR zero zero two one
five d d C if you want to look it up,

(01:26:19):
was being prosecuting good faith. It's more to the point
I questioned whether the case was being kept alive. So
lady shield documents about Trump Russia hoast from four your
requests such as my client for we would have break
I was gonna do that for a break with that's
my show for we would have bak theme and play
this clip from Kim dot com. And this was a
clip where he's being interviewed by a Asian news agency reporter.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
At interviewing him, he.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
Has a very kind of a cryptic kind of a message.
You're warning if you will for Hillary Clinton. By the way,
this interview was done in the early summer, on say,
May or June of twenty fifteen, just as the election
start to get heated up, just as the Orange man
is started to kind of heat up in that election.
If you recall, had some of these hacks already happened.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
I find this interview rather fascinating looking back on what
we now know what was going on in those time frames.
Find it very fascinating. Again, this is Seth Rich's buddy,
Julia Sangra's buddy, Kim dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
What about Julian Nissante? What's your relationship with him?

Speaker 14 (01:27:30):
So, what Julian Assanzra was doing is putting a spotlight
on all these secrets.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
How often do you talk to him? Why is that
important to me?

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Look, I like these guys, you know, I look up
to them. I think they are very brave.

Speaker 14 (01:27:45):
They're going through a very hard time, you know, when
they chose to do that for the betterment of all
of us.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
So yeah, I love to talk to them. So you
said you were going to bring the Internet Party to
the US in twenty sixteen. Why what's your goal?

Speaker 14 (01:28:01):
Well, because I think there's a big group of people
out there that disagree with what's going on. You know,
they want to have their privacy back, they want to
have Internet freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
You tweeted that you were going to be Hillary's worst
nightmare in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 14 (01:28:18):
How so well, I have to say it's probably more Julian,
but I'm aware of some of the things that are
going to be roadblocks for her.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
So you know, if I can.

Speaker 14 (01:28:34):
Provide some transparency with these people and make them part
of what the Internet Party stands for, then you know,
I'll be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
To do that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
You're saying Julian Assan is going to be Hillary's worst
nightmare and for sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
How so well, he has access to information? What information?
I don't know the specifics. Why Hillary in particular, Well,
Hillary hates Julian. She's just necessary or for I think
intimate freedom. And she signed your extradition request, so you
have a bone to pick with her.

Speaker 6 (01:29:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
The crazy thing is I actually like her. I like
Obama so it's so crazy that all of this happened.

Speaker 5 (01:29:22):
Did you but did you catch some of that? Did
you catch that did certain things were going to come out?
Access to certain things?

Speaker 6 (01:29:31):
Huh?

Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
You see that that whole interview is rather cryptic in
light of what we now know. Was he telegraphing some
of this stuff, some of this stuff that's going to
come out of spoiling Hillary's and he said, you actually
liked her, but was going to spoil her campaign? Chances
those emails didn't help her. Those emails didn't help her

(01:29:56):
campaign at all. And she even cites as one of
the things that kind of derailed her campaign was the hacks,
the DNC hacks, her email hacks, her Sarah being hacked, whatever,
all the stuff that went down.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
And here's.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
Kim dot com, here's homeboys saying in an interview in
sort of laughing and kind of evading a little bit,
and well, you know, and all this and that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Interesting, is it not. Let's take a break. We've got
more Christian talk at Rocks straight ahead.

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Fourteen thousand would be a legal immigrants decided they were
going to just turn around.

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El soccoring to a report and that there's a new
state that reveals northward migration has fallen by ninety seven
percent twenty twenty five. Imagine now now the border's practically
closed up. It's been reported by Virginia Allen of the

(01:32:42):
Daily Signal and the Associated Press. Fourteen thousand immigrants turned
back amid news of closed borders and new report finds
and a trend known as reverse flow. About fourteen thousand
the would be legal immigrants who had sought to reach
US border have turned around since it started. The Trump
administration that according to a nestment a recent report, large
percent of the the illegal immigrants who have turned back
are from Venezuela. According to the report from the governments

(01:33:05):
of Colombia, Panama, and Costa Rica, the Trump administration has
acted to end at temporary protected status for the hundreds
of thousands of Venezuelans who entered the US under the
Body administration. Fact Supreme Court determined in May that the
administration could deport illegal aliens while litigation continued to move
through the courts over any of the Biden administration program.

(01:33:27):
So they are like, well, yeah, okay, maybe not the
threat of removal or denial of entry at the border
of Peers have created the reverse flow trend. The report,
which was published was support from U and High Commission
for Human Rights, found that the northward migration, if you will,
has fallen ninety twenty five. In fact, migration through the

(01:33:48):
dary And Gap, which of course is a sixty miles
stretch of dense rainforest and rough terrain actually that connects
Panama and Colombia spiked under President Joe Biden. About one
point five million from one hundred and seventy countries passed
through the Darien Gap from twenty twenty one to mid
twenty twenty four. And that was accring deestments by the
Senator for Immigration Studies. But that that's fallen off Formacley

(01:34:11):
as well, So.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
There's that also.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Tom Homan, I'm just going to run through these, Tom
Homan says, I don't give it what people think about me.
Homan outlined Trump administration immigration enforcement wins as being imported
by Candae Hathaway the Blaze dot com. During a Wednesday
speech at the National Conservatism Conference in Washington or Washington
District of Crazy, depending on your pronunciation of Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
There borders are.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
Tom Homan outlined the Trump administration's successful regarding information immigration.
I should say enforcement.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Quote.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
I said two months ago we were going to flood
the zone, and that's exactly what we're doing unquote. Homan
explained that President Donald Trump gave him three tasks as
are O secure the border, run a mass deportation operation,
and find missing and accompanied migrant miners, in the other words,
migrant children.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Quote.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
We have the most secure border in the history of
the nation. That's probably true, at least in modern times,
he stated, giving credit to the President and border patrol agents,
illegal immigration is down ninety six percent unquote. Trump's success
with the border proofs that the Bidy administration unsecured the
most secure border on purpose home and declared, I will

(01:35:31):
say that the Trump's border policies have saved thousands of
lives by reducing human trafficking, drug trafficking, and sexual assaults.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Quote.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
They always say that Trump administration is inhumane. He continued,
I'm a racist supposedly, I'm a white nationalist.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
I read it all.

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
I'm a terrorist, he said, whatever, whatever you want to
call me. I don't give it what people think about me.
Never have Homo remarked. He explained that under the Biden
open border policies, historic number of illegal immigrants died making
the journey to the US one hundreds of thousands of
Americans died from federals, and sex trafficking was an all
time high, and cartels prospered. Speaking of the UH, speaking

(01:36:08):
of the cartels, Speaking of the cartels, they're experiencing a
loss of a lot of money because of this border
crackdown being imported by Virginia Allen again on the daily signal,
border crackdown has cost Mexican cartels over a billion bucks

(01:36:29):
estimate where the Trump administration setting policies, smuggling fees are
going through the roof, but number of border crossers has
collapsed because it's just not that many. I mean, why
pay you for not being able to get through the border.
This is dateline Olpaso, Texas. Since the start of twenty
twenty five, border security measures have cost a Mexican cartels

(01:36:52):
more than a billion bucks. That according to estimates by
the Opaso sector of the Border Patrol in Texas. Quote,
we're hurting them in the pocketbook, and I'm a border
patrol chief for the Opasso sector, Walter Assaultasar tells the
Daily Signal. In recent years, Slosi says that he can
recall days when as many as twenty seven hundred legal

(01:37:12):
aliens were arriving at the border daily, but now more
patrol is encountering about forty illegal aliens a day in
the Opasso sector, which includes the two westernmost counties in Texas,
Hudsmith and Olpasso, and all of New Mexico for that matter,
is in that particular region, and they're only getting about
forty a day or so.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
That's not very many.

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
Criminal cartels control much of the Mexican side of the
southern border and force illegal aliens to pay them to
either be guided to the border or smuggled across. In
twenty twenty one, a House Homeland Security Committee report found
that the cartels made an estimated thirteen billion bucks on
human smuggling alone. Cartels charge illegal immigrants varying amounts based

(01:37:53):
upon factors such as where they are from, they have
a family in the US, with financial means or if
they have a criminal record, et cetera. With the change
in border policies under the Trump administration, smuggling fees are
going through the roof, so slow Star says.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
He said.

Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
They used to get two or three attempts per smuggling payments.
Now they're getting one. If they get returned, they've got
to pay again. So it's really slowing down that volume
we got. Who wants to waste the money? I mean,
these folks don't exactly have a lot of money throw
around them. Again with anyway, if friscal year twenty twenty one,
Customs and Border Protection account of more than one point
five mini illegal aliens at the southern border, compared with

(01:38:28):
the fewer than four to fifty zerousand so far in
fiscal year twenty twenty five, which ends September thirtieth. Because
border patrol only has so many agents, the volume of
legal aliens arriving at the borders always our Achilles heel,
Slowsar said. In recent years, criminal organizations use mass migration
numbers as a tool to occupy agents and keep them
away from marrias of the border where the cartels might

(01:38:49):
be smuggling people or drugs. In other words, look at
this shiny object over here, because we don't want to
see what we're doing over there. So it's the same
kind of trick. I mean, our government does the same
little tactic. The cartels learned very well, didn't they. Yes,
so there's da But I'm glad that it's hurting the filthy,
rotten cartels, which is the kindest thing I can say

(01:39:10):
about them, because they really are.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
They're wretched. Then you have.

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
The world's biggest cocaine producing country upset over the Narco
vessel strike by our US military. It's being reported by
Wallace White, defense reporter for the Daily Color News Foundation.
President of the leading cocaine producer in the world, said
Wednesday morning that the US strike on a trendy Iraq

(01:39:38):
with drug trafficking vessel Tuesday was tantamount to murder.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (01:39:42):
He also accused the video that Pete Heggs Hath put
up as an AI that it was AI. Replicated Pete
Xsy said, no, it's legit.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
You see in what we saw.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
Columbnian and Presidente Gustavo Petro said in a post translated
by The Daily Color News Foundation that the pilots of
the boat were likely poor young people, and that the
killing was unjust because the transporters weren't the big narcos.
Colombia is not only the world's largest exporter of cocaine,
so they likely were anyway, but also plays host to

(01:40:16):
some of Latin America's most vicious cartels and gangs and militias. Quote,
we have been capturing civilians who transport drugs for decades
without killing them, and then you turn them loose for
send them north. Thus, and that's special, Petro said in
his post. Those who transport drugs are not the big narcos,
but very poor young people from the Caribbean and the Pacific.

(01:40:37):
President Donald Trump also designated the slew of Latin American
cartels as terrorist organizations in nearly August and authorized US
military to strike the groups, which they did, and they are.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
He's right on that. I don't care if you hate him.
He's right on that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:52):
The strike Tuesday killed eleven operatives from the Venezuelan trend
Diagua of Cartel. Columbia exported a record high of two
thousand and six hundred and sixty four metric tons of
cocaine in twenty three and three that according to United
Nations Statistics, Pitherel was formerly a member of the M
nineteen Militia, a Marxist militant group turned political parties. So

(01:41:15):
if you want to know where his alliances are, he's
just a two big Marxist dictator. He's a comedy give
or take. So, yeah, we're supposed to take him serious.
Yeah I don't think so, according to his resume. And sorry,
not not now, not now, amigo. Then we got this,

(01:41:41):
you know, back in what was it, June, May, June,
whatever it was, I don't remember exactly, a couple three
months back back in the summer, but in July, I
can't remember exactly, but somewhere in that time frame is
remember the granddaughter of Sam Walton, one of his granddaughters,
was ripping on Trump and the MAGA supporters.

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Uh, the MAGA.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
Supporters tend to be pretty good, consistent Walmart customers, but anyway,
you know, she just ripped a whole bunch of their
customer base. And they're like, you speak for us. That
was kind of a scandal. We all add this one
to it. Well, the coach you had to where was
it somewhere in the Upper Midwest? Was it Minnesota? Somewhere
where this guy came into one of the stores with
uh nobody in security could stop him. I would stop him.

(01:42:28):
Came in with what was a big knife for a
hatchet or something to the other And finally it was
a good guy with a gun that stopped me. After
you whacked up eleven people, remember that, you know, that
wasn't that wasn't real good. And then even right here
locally where I'm sitting, we had another guy with a hatchet.
Video leaked on the internet about him standing there in
front of the store. Uh here here in uh Marsville,

(01:42:49):
and then him also that this guy also uh, I
was acquainted with the guy. Also he needs help obviously
out of the parking lot, strang on his mom, trying
to strangle his mom. All right, then there's this to
add to the bad optics. Walmart scandal exposes deeper immigration

(01:43:12):
hiring abuses. Current bribery scandal is not an isolated event,
but rather is a flashpoint that pulls back the curtain
on years of questionable hiring practices. Being reported by Amanda
Barbolada WorldNet Daily. Walmart is reeling after revelations the device
president in the Global Tech division. This is a higher up.

(01:43:33):
This is in some local yocal flunky. This is somebody
way up in the corporation. Okay, this is corporate level,
way up. Corporate level vice president in its global tech
division allegedly pocketed bribes worth tens of thousands of dollars
per day from Indian That would be from India, not
Tomahawk Indians, not native Americans, but from India, which I

(01:43:55):
am one of those as well. And bart Apache and
part got enough cherokeeping probably to join the nation. But anyway,
staffing firms. The scheme exposed not by auditors, not Betty
outside or inside Uitors and Walmart, but through anonymous posts
I would suspect associates or employees whistleblowers on blind and Reddit,

(01:44:18):
led to the abrupt termination of about twelve hundred contractors,
money believed to be on H one be visas. The
episode of sparked questions not only about corporate governance and
America's largest retailer, but also about how deeply Walmart has
relied on foreign labor pipelines to fill US jobs. While
the company insists the scandal had nothing to do with
its H one b visas, the optics tell different story.

(01:44:43):
Contractors were locked out of systems, overnight projects were halted,
and an entire vendor stack tied to India based firms
was cut off. The incident highlights a bigger, long standing
issue Walmart's extensive use of immigration programs that critics say
sideline a marea workers while awarding global staff and cartels.

(01:45:04):
For years, Walmart has leaned on H one B and
related visa schemes, partnering with outsourcing giants and body shops
if you will that recruit foreign nationals to fill US
tech roles. In twenty twenty three alone, indians from India
accounted for over seventy percent of all H one B
visas issued on a program sold to the public as
a way to fill critical skills gaps, but that increasingly

(01:45:26):
serve as a backdoor for cheap labor and corporate cost cutting.
I've talked about this on this show, not so much
in concerning Walmart, but at a lot of high tech
firms and other big companies. Walmart's prior layoffs and restructuring
moves have often overlapped with visa heavy hiring, prompting outrage
from American employees who see their careers as place in
favor of imported labor. The current bribery scandal is not

(01:45:48):
an isolated event, but rather as a flashpoint that pulls
back to the curtain on years of questionable hiring practices,
from kickback schemes to vendor favoritism to its deep ties
with Indian outsourcing partners. Walmart' immigration history is riddled with
red flags. The company's public denial will not erase the
growing perception that Walmart has been part of the broader
pattern of visa abuse undermining US workers. In fact, Walmart's

(01:46:12):
immigration profile includes a bit of this. The numbers tell
a stark story. Between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty five,
Walmart laid off more than thirty thousand US workers while
simultaneously driving nearly forty five thousand, h ONEB visa requests
through direct filings and contracting companies. The company's reliance on
foreig labor is even more clear in the Green Card pipeline.
Of the ude total cases, eighty seven point one percent

(01:46:35):
were for Indian nationals, leaving all other countries combined at
just twelve point nine percent, with over twelve hundred contracting
companies feeding h one B workers into Walmart's tech operations.
The data suggests a delured strategy of cutting American jobs
while expanding expanding dependence on a foreign workforce overwhelming from India.

(01:46:58):
The imbalance raises fundamental questions about Walmart's priorities and their
impact on US workers. You know, they're all about kind
of the American first thing, a little bit in American
made and all that, and yeah, well but some of
the workers, you know, they just came here about thirty
days ago from wherever, and we're going to hire them, and.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
You guys are here from America. Get lost.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
Here are Walmart's top twenty five Well, and then if
you go look at the article. I don't have time
run through, but there's Walmart's top twenty five H one
B contracting companies. You can see those yourself. But anyway,
they got to take a pause here. But this is
part and parcel for a lot of American big companies
to try and save money. And this is another aspect

(01:47:40):
of this whole border thing. Guys, this is a whole
other aspect, a.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
Whole other deal.

Speaker 5 (01:47:45):
How many people are slipping through the cracks at big
companies like Walmart. They're not alone. Mickey D's and whoever else,
not exactly using the VFI system like they should, are
perhaps winning lear un widdily hiring people who aren't even
legally authorized to work here, or maybe who are, but
who've overstayed visas or whatever, and they's kind of led
it through the cracks.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
And I've talked about this on the show before, with
this just this general issue of these VS abuses and
so forth, and how a lot of high tech firms
of big companies, because they can get these people for cheap,
usually a lot cheaper than get someone who's perhaps been
quote unquote a little more educating, maybe not as educated,

(01:48:27):
maybe not more educated necessarily, but has paid the bucks
to go through the big colleges, you know, to get
that nice piece of sheep skin that says I went
to whatever, Mit, Harvard, Princeton, Rice University, whatever, as opposed
to somebody who maybe has a similar degree of education
but didn't go through those institutions fire learning. You're gonna

(01:48:49):
ask for a bit less, well, let's go with that guy. Well,
to keep the prices cheap on the shelves or the
products cheap at the at the stores or online where
they're being sold for the high tech firms. Whatever gadgets
keep them relatively affordable. So let's let's cut labor calls.
Forget US workers. We'll just are a bunch of these
people with US workers and US jobs. Oh, we're gonna

(01:49:13):
tell ourselves at bay. Oh we're all about the US
and yay and wave with the American flags and you know, red,
white and blue. But practice, it's a different story.

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Speaker 5 (01:50:34):
All right, probably we got this stunning divide, well not
to me stunning divide? And how often Congress votes in
support of Biblical principles? What do you want to bet
it ain't much? What do you want better?

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Ain't much? Being what about Bobo Neworld and Daily.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
And a resulting with surprise few who watch Capitol Hill,
it has been revealed that one party dominates a list
of those members of Congress who vote against Biblical principles
over and over, including a man who purports to be
a Christian minister. It's long been known that Republicans mostly
support family values and ideas, although I would heavily qualify

(01:51:17):
that usually lower taxes and limited government, although that's still contended.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
So many in the.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
Under the Elephant banner are for a big government light
But nevertheless Dems means while they're investing in abortion, transgender ism,
big expending, big government, social agendas, and violence for their future.
It is the Christian Employer's Alliance that released a tool,
the Biblical Business Index by the Center for Biblical Business.
It has reported that there are sixteen dams in Congress.

(01:51:50):
Jerry Nadler, Katie Porter, Corey Bush, Chai Pengrie, Debbie Stabinow,
Jeff Markley, Edward Marky, Tammy Balling, and on.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
And on and on. You know the usual cast characters,
Dick Durbin, all of them.

Speaker 5 (01:52:07):
Who voted in support of the biblical perspective zero percent
of the time. Well because they always vote party. Another
long list of Damn Treville does it's more in essentially
the same position, with support from biblical perspectives in the
range of zero point fifty five oh percent and maybe

(01:52:28):
zero point five to three. Then in the scale where
Republicans Elijah Crane, Matt Rosendale, Andy Biggs, Robert Good, and
Mike Lee, Michaelsham utahnof he's more than not but anyway
at one hundred percent, following by more than two hundred
and sixty more Republicans who had ratings about as low
as forty nine percent, including Susan Collins before the first Democrat,

(01:52:50):
Henry Quaar made the list at forty seven point seven
six percent. I think he's a Catholic. He's from Texas,
according to the Washington Examiner column Paul Bedard, who, by
the way, I do follow on social media just for transparency.
Here Democrats overwhelming fill out the bottom slots. CEA is

(01:53:10):
proud to equip Christian business leaders with the tool built
on the ultimate truth, the Word of God. Margaret Lukulano
the I'm sorry Iklano, the president of the Christian Based
Business Group, told Badard quote, our faith is the foundation
of how we live in Lead, and lawmakers need that
same compass as they face complex policies. That's why we

(01:53:34):
launched the Biblical Business Index Firstwitch contol bringing together theologians
and policy experts. Ticket X Scripture with today is legislation. Now,
I hear what some of you are saying. I'm hearing
it already. You cannot legislate Christianity. No, you cannot, nor
should you. We do have a separation in that regard
to church and state in the First Amendment. However, any

(01:53:58):
law professor will tell you that most laws are an
attempt at legislating some kind of morality. But that being said,
I'd like to see something break down the Republicans a
little bit better, and even the Libertarians and the independence
but that's not in this particular article.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
H But I'm not surprised.

Speaker 5 (01:54:22):
I'm just not surprised, and especially as the damn party,
which is, by the way, this saint the Democrat party.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
If you have your granddaddy or a great granddaddy, you
just ain't. It's really not.

Speaker 5 (01:54:31):
By the time you get more Marxist and socialists and
communists and somewhere ins in between us, it's in that
party which is being peppered with you're going to find
less and less of anything that even remotely smacks of
any kind you doo Christian ethos, which our finding fathers
dip from that well pretty deeply at a lot of
times in our in the funding of our nation. But

(01:54:52):
in these modern times, yeah, I forget it. And I
would say it's declining in both parties, probably worse than
the Damns. I'd go along with that. But the Repubs
ain't exact or shining sturning example.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
You're either. Then there's this. Finally, there's this.

Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
Compromise believes to make people happy. Well ethics complaint against
a Christian counselor who criticized the world LGBT ideology was tossed.
Being reported by Bob Bundyworld, a Daily State board determined
the concerns about his private statements were frivolous, even as
a related fight looms before the Supreme Court that of
statements of counselors regarding the injurious LGBT agenda being pushed

(01:55:30):
across America. A state board in Kentucky has cleared a
Christian counselor there frivolous ethics complaints that he expressed his
religious ideas in his private speech. Okay, so he expressed
religious ideas in private speech. He's got a first member
right to do that. But apparently the LGBT mob or

(01:55:51):
mafia doesn't think that he should. So who's the tyrants here?
Who's the fascist here? I've got a First Amendment that
says in my private speech anyway, you know, I can
pretty much within the reason what I want.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
I can't say I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:56:02):
Gonna grab a gun, I figure out way to martargo
assassinate the president, because then you know, later on that evening,
I'll have the men in black knocking on my door
hauling me away. I mean, I get that, and there's
course laws against libel. But in terms of just expressing
personal opinions, you know you got a right to do that.
It's called the First Amendment. And by the way, the

(01:56:24):
First Amendment makes it very clear that your freedom of speech,
freedom of pressing. All that will not be abridged now,
I mean, you know that spreds pretty to the point. Fight,
according to Liberty Council, which reported on the dispute and
continues to pursue reinstatement for the fired counselor, erupted over

(01:56:46):
wild complaints that the counselor actually had expressed his faith
in private statements, not his official pasty. In other words,
you with me, all right, but the complaints which raised
issues including that his beliefs were discriminatory. Oh, he believes
the Bible low Bible has discriminatory stove, the Bible unit.
The Bible just's just a bunch of stories anyway, by

(01:57:08):
a bunch of bigots and Jews. You know those Jews?

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
Are you know? We're tossed out by the Kentucky Board
of Social Work. Good.

Speaker 5 (01:57:18):
Liberty Council had told the state board that the counselors
social media posts are private religious and political speech protected
by the First and fourteenth Amendments. Thank you, the Kentucky
Constitution and the Kentucky Religious Freedom Restoration Act. On top
of everything else, is that the concerution of the isis
wasn't enough let's throw in all the other on top
of it. Counsel, who's name was not released, had been

(01:57:39):
targeted by anti faith complaints, including one from his former
employer who fired him. Fight having reinstated his position, continues,
I don't know. I think I just look for another job,
but just sue anyway, you know, for the for the
good grins of it. They complained his comments on faith
where conduct becoming had all the complaints identifying applicable law

(01:58:01):
regulation the statements supposedly violated. In other words, it was
without cause. The Christian Councilor had expressed his belief and
he was a Christian councilor. People probably knew that his
beliefs regarding human sexuality on social media. He said, in
the licensed material health profession, there's constant pressure to compromise
beliefs to make people happy in this field and in
our lives in general. Liberty Council explaining that he stated

(01:58:23):
that while he loved his career that people and serves
to people with passion, he was not going to sell
his soul for it good for him. Stuck to his gun,
so to speak, and that while he places and that
while places he worked might style themselves as a safe
and affirming space for the l g B t q I,
A plus and a partner in the paratry community. He

(01:58:45):
personally and professionally never wants to affirm with Bayon against
our creator. And by the way, there's verses that speak
against you know, that kind of stuff, against homosexuality, et cetera.
They just do both an older New Testament. I've read
him on the show before. You can look him up
to yourselves in both Old and New Testament. Of course,
we're under ultimately the ofsices of New Testament here in

(01:59:06):
this age of grace that we are in.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
But there it is.

Speaker 5 (01:59:12):
Unless you start white outing, getting taking white out and
or tearing out pages of your New Testament Bible, there
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:59:20):
If some people are offended by it or don't like it,
there it is. And if the Apostle Paul and the
others that wrote about that were wrong, well then maybe
the New Testament's wrong about John three sixteen. For God's
so love the world that he gave was only we gotten.
Some in whomsoever should believe in him would not perish
but have everlasting life. Maybe well, see, you can't cherry
pick what parts of the New Testament you like, and
then the rest you don't like and just throw it

(01:59:41):
out the window. It's having all or nothing proposition there,
For the post is made in his private capacity, not
in service to a client, and involved and involved a
matter of public concern. Quote that that's nothing under the
law or any governing code of ethical conducts serves as
a basis for any complaint, let alone for pfessional discipline,
explain Liberty Council. Additionally, both federal law particul law I

(02:00:03):
do recognize religion as protected class.

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
So there's that.

Speaker 5 (02:00:10):
Somebody somewhere got their kniggers in a not who maybe
normally didn't wear niggers. I don't know, But regardless, here
you have the LGBTQ mafia striking again, but it didn't hold,
and they're trying to get a job back.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
I mean me personally, I might. I don't know. Why
would you want to go back and work in that
kind of a hostile environment. I'd just find another gig.
That'd be me. But you know, there it is.

Speaker 5 (02:00:39):
And if you stand for Christian principles, understand gang, and
I've been saying this on this show for a long time.
You will have both a literal and figurative target on
your backs being targets on your back. Look what happened
last week. Look what happened last week at that Catholic school,
at that Catholic service. That was happening for those those kids.

Speaker 3 (02:00:58):
They were praying.

Speaker 5 (02:01:00):
Andredestingly enough, a disturbed transperson came in gunned them down.
I'm not saying everybody that's trends is violent, grabbing guns
and shooting up churches. Don't get me to hear what
I'm saying, not what I'm not saying. Okay, I don't
think anybody believes that, But here we are again a
hostility towards Christianity, which I've warned and warned and warned

(02:01:22):
and warned about, and I share on this show. I
think it was a week before last or a week
before that, I don't remember. Please go back and listen
to archives that research showing the stats that violence, vandalism, shootings,
et cetera, et cetera against Christian organizations are up in
this country and are ramping upwards and have in the

(02:01:44):
past few years, that these numbers are going up. And
I warned, I've been warning about this on this show.
For some time at length. Add knowledge about if an
item that you figured hevening. Literally have a target on
your back Christian, and you will see more violence against you,
more junk against you. It's headed your way and it's
gonna continue. It's gonna get worse. Now, I'm not saying

(02:02:06):
this is this courage you ruin your day. I'm saying
this is more the reason why you've got to hit
your knees and pray. Keep your eyes, your mind, your
heart focused on Christ and God's word. Keep your eyes
on Jesus, keep your eyes on the Lord, keep your

(02:02:27):
eyes on God, keep your nose buried in His word.
And fellowship pointing wherever possible with your fellow Christians, legitimate Christians.
That's how you're going to get through this. Be so
familiar with the truth that will then be as hit you.
You smell them all the way, But you will get
through this. Jesus said, be gentle as does, but worry

(02:02:52):
as what snakes serpents. Okay, so we've got to be
on her guard. We've got to be aware of our
We've got to watch we've got to watch it and understand,
understand the time in which we live the time of
day that it is, and with each day we near,
we get near to Christ's attorneys. So maybe a hundred
years out, who knows. Kind of think probably within the

(02:03:14):
twenty maybe fiftieth year range's to educated guests on my
part based on what I'm saying in scripture, but I
could be wrong, and I'm not setting a date.

Speaker 3 (02:03:20):
Nobody knows. Jesus said, look nobody. Now, the angels don't know.
You don't know. Nobody knows.

Speaker 5 (02:03:27):
God the Father knows, and he ain't sharing and he won't.
That is to say when Christ comes back for the church.
So understand time of day we're in. Understand what's going on.
And it violence not just around the world against Christians.
That's been going on for pretty good while now, especially
in the Middle East about white Christians out of Middleast altogether,

(02:03:47):
but it's happening here in this country and it will continue.
So churches need to be on guard, need to take
extra security measures, protect the little ones of the flock.
As much as post I said, well, I'm not blaming
this these people for having their guard down. I'm just saying,
you know, you live from the lessons and learn. I
think it's a miracle, not more we're killed or this

(02:04:09):
guy was maybe a terrible shot. I don't know they
did all this, but to be on guard, to have
proper security, to have your your congregation train, maybe have
a few people packing concealed, carry whatever. You have a
right self defense. Church has a right self defense. Got
the Second Amendment in this country. Okay, it's a right

(02:04:30):
that people died for defending over the years. So church
and religious organizations do what you got to do to
protect yourself. I mean, don't go crazy. You don't need
to go out and buy you know, bazookahs and cannons.
But I mean, you know, get some good self defense weaponry,
some high powered pistols, you know, three fifty seven, as

(02:04:54):
Cleanings would say, can blow a man's head clean off.
I mean, you know, get what you gotta get to
to defend yourself. You know, like David Crockett said, the
alamos allegedly praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

Speaker 3 (02:05:05):
I mean, we have to do what we have to
do to.

Speaker 5 (02:05:07):
Protect and defend ourselves. That's a right, it's God given right.
Even Jesus told the disciples, look, sell you're cloak and
buy some swords. Things are gonna get rough. Jesus said
that at the Last Supper, sell your cloak and buy
some swords. If firearms had been invented them, I think
he said, look, guys, by sell your cloaking, you know,
buy some three fifty sevens or some kind of pistols,

(02:05:29):
some glocks or something to protect yourself. So it's not
unbiblical to defend yourself and those around you if necessary,
if you're able to. If you can't, that's not unbiblical
at all. Where to In fact, children were supposed to
protect them according to Jesus those who attempt to do
them harm. He said, look, it'd be better for a

(02:05:49):
millstone was tied around your neck and you were slung
in the deepest sea. In the other word, just gonna
be pretty rough for you on judgment day. So point
being game that we need to be aware of what's
going on, and I'm just letting you know the tum
of day it is all right, and you proceed from there.
I'm giving you the info. You proceed from there.

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
You pray.

Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
We're seeing a lot of exposure happening, exposure and government
exposure and big corporations just shared one today and there's
more to colm. Boys, and girls, there is more to come.
I've been talking about this on the show for a
few years now, and it's by a divine hand. There's
more to come because the Lord's trying to heal our
nation before it's too late. So you got to pop
open the zits. You gotta pop open the boils and

(02:06:35):
drain the garbage and the nasty, gross stuff that's in
them out so that you can get those wounds cleaned
up and healed, and those boils and zits and everything
cleaned up and healed and get back to healing.

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
And yeah, it's gross and danty and it stinks smelly.
Oh you know, it's kind of.

Speaker 5 (02:06:50):
Gross to do all that sort of stuff. But to
get the place is better that need healing, that's what
you have to do sometimes. So what the doctor will
do sometimes. And who is Christ? He is the great physician.
Who is God? He's our great physician, all right. By
his stripes, we are what healed. Yeah, so there's that.

(02:07:10):
Let's call it today. All that note gotta go.

Speaker 4 (02:07:16):
Be sure to.

Speaker 5 (02:07:18):
Check out the websites Christian Talk Air rocks youre dot
net dot com, Christian Talk at rocks dot net dot com.
Be sure to take care of those around you, take
care of your family, take care of your loved ones,
take care of yourself, and remember God is love.

Speaker 3 (02:07:31):
See you next time.

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