Christian Talk That Rocks with Richie L Ep. 9/23/2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Start secrets five four three two work now.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Get in. I'm a discussion now line are now. Here's
your host, Richie L. Yeah, yeah, yo, that's me. A
couple of websites for you as well, Christian Talk at
Rocks dot to net or Christian Talk at Rocks dot
com live on our email address talk to Richiel at

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gmail dot com, t A L K T O R
I C H I E L at gmail dot com
s always get this broadcast in podcast format. Here's just
a handful. Let's start with iHeartRadio their podcast section. Yeah,
they got one pretty popular too. We're there. Let's say
we got Spotify, Apple, Let's see Radio dot Net, Spreaker, Pandora,

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Google Pods. I think I'm still there, just to name
a few. I don't think they sense for me yet yet. Also,
once it's in the candle loaded up, available at Netnewsnetwork
dot net. Also the newscastersaid dot com, the Newscasters dot
com of course, and we are live and when we're
not live, available at Thunderishradio dot com or dot net.

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You're gonna want to go to Channel two or stream too,
because Stream one or Channel one is music. So if
you want the talk side of that particular station. When
you go to the website thunderist radio dot com, you
want to click on that second channel there, or stream
too as we call it, and you can hear the
show live. And even when it's not live, when it's
just in the rotator, then you've got a chance of
grabbing it there as well. Also at streamature dot COMI

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tuner dot com, and as I said, radio dot net.
Also at Pandora do I say that, I don't know
if I did it. We're on so I think all
the biggies and some of the not so biggies we're
at good pods. There's just too many twenty some odd
different podcast distributors we're on. Also found out recently pardon me, uh,

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there's a site that kind of ranks podcasts worldwide and
domestically and so forth, called a Million Million Podcasts, and
we are ranked domestically number forty four. I believe it
is out of one hundred Christian podcast talk shows, et cetera.
We were ranked it. We're sitting at forty four, and

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I think worldwide they've got us sitting at forty two.
So they think that ain't bad. Ain't bad for just
a little show and pardon me, I said, you'll fall
the year the two times a year, and I like
both times of the year. I like the seasons. I
like to spring time. I like the fall the year
where I'm at here in the foothills of the Appalachians,
the trees starting to change, very beautiful colors changed a

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little earli this year, I know Toed Sproun in the
mid latter part of August, boy, they were starting to
really change. Uh and and they're they're very much changing.
It's been a little dry too, which I think is
accelerating the changes. But it's it's beautiful this time of year.
Overnight lows in the fifties, low sixties, upper fifties, mid fifties.
Good sleeping weather, real good sleeping weather. You know, you

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just pop open the window and you know, just go
to sleep. And hear a few crickets, crickets kind of
calming down because it's getting later in the season. For him, Well,
you're serenaated by a few little crickets. But I don't
like being serenaated by as the neighbors barking dogs. But
you know, there's that. But here in the bunker, we
like this time you're downside, you have like the fall

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elm and the fall grasses, and the fall this, and
the fall pollinating plants and the fall you know, because
there are some plants blooming around the bunker. The person
that we bought the bunker from was apparently into flowers.
I'm not as much. They're nice, so lovely. Missus l
loves them. Some of them I've uprooted and mote down,
much to her chagrin. But we compromise because I said, look, huh,

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I don't have the time to come out here and
weed around these things and care for them and talk
to them and water them and hug them and comfort them.
You want to do it, knock yourself out. So we
kind of came to a compromise. And some of the
let's just say high maintenance plants and the landscaping around
our bunker we early on we kind of got rid of,

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but we kept some of it. We kept some of it.
We took down some trees which needed to come down,
but we kept some of the things. So there are
some things at this time of year start blooming. And
of course with all the neighbors have some of the
similar plants and so forth. So this time. You use
a lot of stuff floating around on the air and

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haven't had much rain to settle the stuff in a
on the dry side. You know, nice days a little breezy,
but that blows the stuff around, so the tonsils are
a bit swollen. Throw it a little scratchy, sinuses, a
little snotty, you know how it goes. So if things
sound a little strange, stranger than usual coming out of
my throat, or you have att little bit dealing kind

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of a nasy thing, uh you know why, Okay, So
I'll just apologize for that on the upfront. But that's why,
that's why beautiful time of year around here. People come
from all the world to fact that they can call
them the peepers, the fall the leaf peepers. They'll start
less than a month, probably about three weeks, they'll start

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showing up. They'll be going up on the blue ridge
and it's fabulous round Around second week in towardous tailor
in the second week in October, things kind of start
to peak in terms of the leaves. Around the middle
of October ish, some of the leaves up up in
the mountains start to peak, not quite so much here
where we're at in the foothills, but darn close. A
little closer to Halloween, they start to peak around here.

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But you get to people with the cameras coming from
all over the country and all over the world to
take the pictures, and there's a kind of a phenomenon.
It's that's the word I'm looking for. The phrase I'm
looking for. It's it's kind of a visual psych out
that nature does on some days. And it's got to

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be right at the peak, and it's got to be really,
really windy. It's got to be right at the peak
of when some of the trees are turning orange and
yellow and red, it looks like the hills are on fire.
It almost looks like fire if the wind's blowing the
right way, because the trees will be swaying, and it does.
If you're looking at a company, it looks like the
hills are on the mountains are on fire, and they're not, obviously,

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although the you know, wildfires do happen in this region,
but it's kind of a kind of a trick of
the mine that takes place. But a lot of people
like to video that and look at that and take
pictures of it. So we'll have the peepers are running
around here, and the weather's usually nice. It's usually mild days, fifties, forties, fifties, sixties.
Now it gets cooler that time you yere up in

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the mountains. He gets down in the twenty thirties, twenties.
A lot of people like that. It's good camping weather,
you know. So you have a lot of the people
up getting up in the mountains and camping, going to
the resorts and going to the some of the different
places that you can go see and sight see and
all of that, and even some of the locals you
need to take it a weekend trip up into the
mountains and you see like all the different historical things

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up in the mountains and the various sites that people
like to see. And they've made some improvements to part
of the Blue Ridge Parkway region. It is now open
from the North Carolina Virginia border up. Some of that
had been shut down are partially closed due to last
year's hurricane coming through when a Leen came through, but

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that's all pretty much open up ict. You can go
down into North Carolina pretty good ways. Most of that
they've got opened up. So this is the time of
year when people go into western North Carolina, western Virginia
and in Smokey's of Tennessee and they do the sites,
you know, they run up in and it is it's
a great time of year to come to this region.
If you've never been, you should definitely put it on

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a Bucke list is one of the things to do
and just check it out. Read that nice mountain there,
and people are friendly. You know, it's not like there's
not too many other people with the banjos that kind
of look at you weird, and you know, there's a
few of those, but not so it's fairly safe and
of course you want to be careful of the wild critters.
There are wild critters. There are bears making a big comeback.

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Of course, some wolves and kai wolves or coyotes whatever.
But for the most part, pretty safe and you can
you know, you can travel it by day just in
your car. There's all kinds. Again, there's there's great places
to camp, sight seeing places, great mountain vistas, wonderful restaurants
and some of the restaurants actually have made it into

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some of the foodie magazines and places. And there's bed
and breakfast as you can stay at. Again that kind
of hoity toity that have made it into some of
the magazines that specialize in that. So there are regional
wines that you can sample if you're into that. So
there's a lot of cool stuff that happens around this
time of year, and of course the fall of the
corps and pumpkins everywhere and pumpkin patches and go pick

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your own pumpkin or apple orchards, go pick your own
apples whatever. A lot of cool, fun stuff to do
with the family with kids. So it is this region
of the country really comes alive this time of year.
It it kind of competes with New England in terms
of the fall, the core and the fall ambiance and
all that. So if you've never been again, i'd put

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it on the bucket list to make it. Make a
trip up here again. People are friendly, lots of stuff
to see. But make sure you pack your allergy mits
all right, because it's it can get and make sure
you pack the appropriate clothing. It can be mild in
the daytime. It could be in the fifty sixties, even seventies.
You'll be on you know, you have your t shirt on.
Then at night he goes down in the thirties and forties,
and you're like, where's my hoodie? So you want to

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dress you know, you want to have both the warm
and cold weather clothing. You just need to go ahead
and pack both because you never know what it'll be like.
It's kind of like Texas used to say it down
in Texas, where I'm originally from. If you don't like
the weather in Texas, wait a few minutes, it'll change.
You get in this region of the country. That can happen.
You know, it can be a nice mild, early afternoon,
low seventies, suns out, and then next thing you know,

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it's starting to get kind of overcast and a cold
wind is coming in, and all of a sudden, you
know you're seeing snow and it's you know, thirty two degrees.
So you need to dress appropriately, all right, when you count.
But if you haven't been in this part of the
country in a long time or never been, you should
check it out. All right, there's the plug. I'll get
the Virginia Tours the board to send me a check

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for that one, all right, So no they won't. But anyway, Uh,
let's dive in plenty to talk about plenty to get
into Jimmy Kimmel talking about Jimmy kill Let's talk. First
of all, let me just give you a little bit
of inside broadcasting, all right, because a lot of people
don't understand how broadcasting, even if you're doing just a

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yee old podcast, little old podcasts like little O me uh,
there are some standards and basics and things that it
just comes with the territory. It's just part of how
things work, right, wrong or different. It's just the way
it is in broadcasting. And these are just kind of
some universal things that it's just the way it is. Okay,

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late night talk show, the late night talk show world
on television, I'm talking about the network TV world in
recent years has seen some slumps. You know, Jay Leno's gone,
Letterman's gone. Of course, Johnny Carson has been gone forever.
So there's just not that many big names, big draws,

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and the formats of the shows have changed a little bit.
Some of them have got a lot more political, like
Colbert and so forth. Where's gutfaeld. I mean, he's all
politics all the time. He's actually doing pretty good, but
he's actually kind of funny and he has a variety
of co hosts that get in there and mix it up.
And it's kind of a unique formula, which I think
is why he's stomping a lot of the most of

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the network late night late night people. But so many
of the late night shows in the last few years
have just been in a slump. They just aren't bringing
in the numbers like they used to. People are well,
they watching other shows, or they're doing other things or
getting on YouTube or listening to podcasts or whatever, and

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they're just not playing computer games, and they're just not
They're just aren't the big devotees like there have been
of these late night talk shows all right, and they've
all seen a slump, including Kimmel's show in recent years. Colbert,

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they're gonna be pulling pulling the plug on him, it
was announced a few weeks back, because it's just well,
the numbers aren't there. You see, here's how it works,
this little inside baseball. In most all broadcasting, even even
the nonprofit broadcasting. Of course, in nonprofit broadcasting, you don't

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call them sponsors, you call them underwriters. But it's the
same thing. It's the same principle. The more numbers of
people listening and or watching whatever it is you're doing
in the broadcast a world, generally speaking, that makes you
more attractive to advertisers, and they're more willing to spend money,
and spend a lot of money if needs be. In advertising.

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That is what drives broadcasting. It's selling little pills that
do things for you. It's selling automobiles, it's selling insurance,
et cetera, et cetera. Okay, that's what fuels the broadcast industry,
all right, little pills that do things for you, insurance, automobiles,

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things of that nature. That's what fuels broadcasting now. The
insurance companies and the fast food companies and the car
companies and the companies that make the little pills that
do things for you. If you don't have quite as
many eyes and or ears on whatever it is that
you're doing, either a online or on just regular what

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we call legacy media, legacy TV, etc. Radio, what have you,
or some combination of the two. If you don't have
a significant number of eyeballs and or ears, ear drums
to hear what you're doing, then they are less likely
to spend that much money on you. They might come
spend a little bit of money because they want to
make sure all the corners are all the crevices and

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cracks and corners are covered. But it's not gonna be much, okay.
And when you have big production shows like Kimmel's, you
know you've got a star that you're paying a half
a mil to a milli year anyway, and then all
the support folks and the camera people and the mixing
board people and the board ops and this one's and

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the that ones, and the co producers, and the secretaries
and the secretary to the secretary, and the people that
keep the bathrooms and the stage clean, and the people
that book the guests and so on and so forth.
I mean, it's a platoon of people that run these shows, okay,
and they're all part of the production team. But even

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some of the more modest talk shows that you hear
on radio will usually have a production staff of you know, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten plus people to book guests, keep things going, et cetera,
et cetera. Not this show its love Me missus l
pitches in when she's able, but other than that, this

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is pretty much a one man show. Could you tell anyway?
Somebody are going like, yeah, we could tell anyway. Smart
Alex So most shows that you know, on the big
networks and so forth, you know, they have these crews
that have to be paid, and of course they got
to have to pay days off and insurance and family medically.
You know, it's like it's a business, okay. So if

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the money isn't rolling in to a certain level to
cover all the expenses or at least break even, the
works are going to look at these things and go hmm.
So Kimmel was already on a bit of thin eyes
before the inappropriate, in my opinion, comments that he made

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about the death of Charlie Kirk. He was already on
some thin eyes. Colbert was too, and so far as
the numbers just weren't adding up in terms of the
number of viewers, listeners, et cetera. So there's that. So
most all, the vast majority of these late night guys,
they just don't have the numbers that they did, say

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even ten to fifteen, twenty years ago, like the Jay
Leno's and Lettermans and so forth, And the shows have
gotten in some ways sillier, and my opinion, this is
my opinion, and of course it is and in some
ways more political then most people just want from a
late night talk show. You know, Letterman wouldn't get in

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all that, but I mean he cracked his political jokes
and make fun of people. Carson would Leno would you know,
they did their monologues, and they would do their you know,
they'd take jabs pretty much everybody, both Republican and Democrat.
Usually they take jabs. Everybody take jabs whoever the president was,
regardless of how popular or unpopular that president was. That's
just what they've done. So there's a little bit of
politics in it. But then after that they go to
you know, whatever movie star let's pluging whatever new movie

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it's out, or or you know, somebody doing stupid pat tricks,
or the latest band that's out there getting big that
they're promoting, that kind of thing. I mean, that was
pretty much the format. Johnny Carson and well even a
guy named Steve Allen prior to Johnny Carson they're doing
the original Tonight Show, sort of started that format and
it was a very successful format for decades. But in

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recent years, let's just say the past ten fifteen years
or so, it seems like that the overnight shows have
had a much much stronger and I would say harsher
political edge to them, which some people do like. They
like that, and then they still mix in the band
sometimes and the movie stars and whoever our sports stars

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or you know, some guy that won the lottery or whatever,
some human interest, crazy weird story or somebody doing you
know that can do a weird, stupid human trick. So
that's that's been a format in more recent years, and
it's just not as popular as the older format. People
have more options, so they've lost, especially with a younger crowd,

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with a lot of the millennials and the Gen z ers,
they've lost a lot of that viewership. They've lost in listenership,
they've lost a lot of numbers. Okay, so this is
plaguing much of overnight radio. So you have to understand
I'm giving you some backdrop here because there's a lot
of people screaming censorship. You could argue there's maybe a

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little bit of that that's probably somewhere in the mix,
But I would push back and say that the bulk
of this has more to do as a business, this decision,
and they were probably just looking for an excuse to
do this. Anyway. Now, I've also said, and in fact,
the love of the missus. Allen and I were talking
about this a couple of days ago. I said, they're

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gonna bring Kimmel back. Well, we're gonna talk about that,
because it looks like they have. I said, they're gonna
bring him back, but they're probably gonna put a leash
on him, you know, right, wrong or different when you
work for a private business, a private company, which these
broadcasters are. Although they do serve the quote unquote public
interest per the FCC and all that. Don't get me
started about the FCC. I've got a lot of issues

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with the FCC and a lot of their rigs and
how they do things. That's another and I've kind of
bashed on them before on this show. But that's another
topic for another time. I want to go to deep
into those weeds, and I'm will let you hear in
it just a bit. What Ram Paul had to say
about what about what the FCC chair said, which I
think was I agree with Rand Paul was inappropriate, and

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in fact, even Ted Cruz and some others said, yeah,
he was out of line on that some of what
he had said, because it's not a kind of threatening
about ABC. Regarding what Kimmel said, what Kimmel said about
the Charlie Kirk assassination was absolutely over the top and
I think reprehensible. But he has the right to say it.

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He's right to say it. We understand ABC also has
the right to Jerky's chain a little bit because he
does work. That's how it works in broadcasting, because you
can start losing sponsors, you can start losing viewership, which
then causes you to lose sponsors again if your numbers tank.
It it's all about numbers. It's a numbers game in broadcasting.

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It tends to be for the most part. There are exceptions,
but it tends to be a numbers game. Mostly for
commercial broadcasters. It's a numbers game. It always has been,
and probably right, wrong or different, always will be. All right,
So when your numbers drop, sponsors tend to not pay
as much or go away. That gets executives and network

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owners nervous. Or if you do something or say something
that defends half the country, who are going to tune
you out? Well, I mean, the sponsors might actually agree
with what you said and say amen, but we kind
of wish you hadn't because now you've lost half your audience.
Now the checks we're going to write. Yourng will be
as big if we even write one. You see what
I'm saying. So that's how that works again, right, wrong

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or different. It's called market driven forces. This is how
capitalism and market driven forces work, all right, and it's
very much at the surface level. Let's just say, in broadcasting,
this is how it works. And if a network fires

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you because you said something they don't agree with, they
have a legal right to do so. They have a
legal right to do so. Now I'm pretty dark close
to a First Amendment rights absolutist. I'm right up against
the line. I mean, I'm right up against that line,
maybe because of what I do here on this show
and having been in broadcasting off and on four well

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since early nineties. So I'm a little sensitive to this myself.
But understand how this works. You can be canned. People
are in fact, gosh, radio and TV are very transient,
and a lot of people bounce that they're in that industry,
bounce from job to job anyway, city to city, network

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to network, that kind of thing. Anyhow, I'm talking. I'm
talking lower level people, not necessarily the personalities. Even the
personality sometimes do all right, So let's get into this.
Gonna go to break here in a minute. Speaking pretty
by Nicole Silverio, Daily Color News Foundation, Disney announced as
Jimmy Kimmel is returning the Late Night after All, exactly

(22:43):
what the lovely misses All and I were talking about
a couple days ago. I said, I said, they're going
to bring him back. You watch, they're going to bring
him back. They're going to have a sit down with him,
They're going to have their version of a come to
the cross moment, but they're probably going to bring him back. Well,
it's not just his job. There's a lot of jobs,

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other jobs on the line, and there's a brand here,
and there are people like him, and the people agree
with what he said. And I pretty ticked off that
ABC slash Disney gave him in a definite suspension. They're
pretty ticked off, and they're letting the networks know it,
and they're canceling, you know, their Disney plus they're canceling
other subscriptions via the Disney ABC brand. So the overall

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brand has taken a hit because of this. When the
folks that thought what Kimmel said was not all that reprehensible,
they kind of agreed with him, I know, but there
you have it, all right. So Disney announced on Monday
Thay Jimmy Kimmel's suspended program was returning to late night
television on Tuesday night. Executives at Disney announced on Wednesday
that Kimmel's show would be canceled as the last Wednesday

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and definitely following his remarks about Turning Point USA founder
Charlie Cook. The executives announced that the program is returning
to the airwaves after having thoughtful conversations. That means they
set him down the chance of Look, look Kimmel, here's
how it's gonna be now, they say, last quote last Wednesday,

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we made the decision to suspend production on the show
to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional
moment for our country. It is a decision we made
because we felt some of the comments were ill timed
and thus insensitive. In other words, what they're saying is
wasn't as much the comments, it was just the timing
of the comments. So they're giving themselves a little wiggle

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room there. See that. I bet a lawyer looked over this.
How much you want about it? Anyway, we have spent
the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy. Uh huh.
And after those convers Yeah, my folks, when I screwed
up as a kid, they had some very thoughtful conversations
and even thoughtful actions with me, like groundings or maybe

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uh you know, taking a ruler to my rear end
and spanking me. My mother loved because she knew it
was more tortuous to me than the spanking. She loved
the hour hour and a half long lectures. You think
I'm exaggerating. My mother would take things back to the
Peloponnesian Wars and then move forward and then talk about

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the consequences of what I did. She would go back
into the philosophy of the stoics of the Greek of philosophers.
She majored in philosophy in college and wound up with
a psych degree. But she would she would take me
back again all the way to you know, pass the
Peloponnesian Wars and then move forward in time and history

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and about how consequences create actions and actions create consequences
and things that people say and do and you know
you shouldn't say and do certain things, and because you did,
this is what's happening, and now you know, these are
the consequences you're experiencing, and this is what other people
are gonna think and continue to do this in the future,
you know. And there would be outlines and it was
like a lecture series. I remember one time I was

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so gosh, I don't know, fourteen fifteen sixteen and my
bedroom because I thought it was cool. My dad wanted
to turn it into like, you know, a little office.
I said, no, I want, I want the office that
you're building in the bedroom. Can I have it as
a bedroom? I mean in the basement. Can I have
it as a bedroom? And after much arguing and and

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then me, you know, getting some decent grades and this
and that, I got it. I prevailed, I wan, and
so I had this kind of cool but cool bedroom,
at least I thought it was. In the It was
not very well insulated in our basement that my dad
mostly finished out, got finished out me and an uncle

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late my uncle of mine helped him. You know, Dad
put me to work. So we kind of finished the
thing out best We could not very well insulated, really
really not insulated well at all. When it got cold,
it was cold. When it got it was nice in
the summer because it stayed cool. But my other one
in there one night and my dad was in the
reck room the dan big Danny set up. He had

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his TV and he was watching his football and all that,
sitting in his easy chair, and he hurt my mother,
just going on and on and on and on, and
he finally jumped on my mother and said and said
that's enough. He said, gladys, that's enough. He said. I said,
I know the boy's got to be tired of hearing it.
I'm tired of hearing you. I'm tired of hearing you

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go on and on, which my mother responded, you know
you're next, some of that effect, and they kind of
got into it. He said, good guys should be in
a dead horse. I think the kid gets said I'm
tired of hearing you blah blah blah, and the language,
let's just say, got a little colorfuile between the parents.
But anyway, so those were the thoughtful kind of conversations
I have. I'm thinking maybe that kind of conversation and

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those kinds of conversations, as I said, they had his kids.
So something along that was longe is probably it was
what happened here to Kimball. But Kim of course sparked
the backlash after a falsely stating in a September fifteenth
monologue that the Maga gang refuses to admit that Kirk's
alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson, is policlarly aligned with them, which
of course was proven later to be false. He also

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mocked President Donald trumps response to Kirk's passing by comparing
him to a child mourning his goldfish. So, yeah, yeah,
that had a lot of a lot of people TechEd
and pretty much whatever, I don't know if you want
to call them moderates, conservatives, Maga people, whatever, were even

(28:33):
while they're and to listen to him anyway, I'm sure
at that point they're like, yeah, never again. But then again,
how many of those listeners do you really have? And
what viewers do you really have? You know what I'm saying.
So executives at Disney said, Okay, he's coming back on.
In fact, Disney CEO Bob Iger and Disney Entertainment co
chairwoman and Dana Walden reportedly grew concerned that Kimmel would

(28:53):
fan the flames with the Maga fan base literally probably
had after he planned to double down on his comments.
During his planned monologue for that Wednesday, kim Will reportedly
planned to say on air that conservatives intentionally misinterpreted his words.
According to The Wall Street Journal, I think everybody heard
you just I think everybody heard you straight up. I

(29:15):
don't think anybody was he wanted to play that game. Well,
they just misinterpreted me. No, I think everybody got it, dude.
Kim Will also portly not planned to apologize and intended
to specifically address for Communications Commissioned SEC Chair Brendan Carr's
warning during his appearance on The Benny Johnson Show, where
he said that he could to pull the licenses of
ABC affiliated networks over inappropriate and insensitive remarks about Kirk's assassination. Uh,

(29:41):
not really, because the FCC's regulation of and I know
this having worked it both commercial and non commercial radio stations,
the FCC doesn't per se regulate content. There are what's
called the seven days least these are words that you

(30:03):
cannot say. Now for nonprofits, there as certain things you
got to kind of watch, which I think is a
violation of the first member. That's again another story, but
we're gonna keep it in the realm. Before profit broadcasting.
They don't. They don't really screen content. I mean, as
long as you know, you're not putting up pornography and

(30:24):
child pornography and so forth on a non cable channel
for TV. I'm talking about those types of things. There's
very little regulation of content that the FCC has the
legal authority to do. Okay, So I'm not sure where

(30:46):
a car was getting that from, because I know enough
about the FCC REGs have had to learn about in
the hard way in some ways, but have boned up
pretty well on the FCC REGs And yeah, no, that's
not how that goes, all right, So I don't know
where he was pulling that from. And we're going to
listen to some folks kind of talk about that in

(31:08):
a minute, actually Republicans. So there you have it. K
Kimmel back. I knew it was going to happen. Not
surprised this was just a temporary suspension. He does have
a pretty decent little fan base. It's not that big,
but what fan base they have is better than no
fan base. And I guess there's been enough pushback actually,

(31:31):
I think from both sides of the political spectrum on
the Disney franchise and ABC franchise, or people canceling subscriptions
to whatever, because a lot of stuff is subscription based
now too. That's a big revenue stream for an awful
lot of these broadcasters and networks and network providers because
a lot of people are cutting cable and going to internet,

(31:51):
which we've done here in the bunker, and a lot
of stuff, a lot of the absence so forth are
subscription base. A lot of that with podcasting. To me,
it's happening on the subscription models are fairly popular. I
can kind of see both sides of that, and I'm
not really big fan of subscription models, but I understand
why a lot of people are, a lot of networks are,
and it can be a decent revenue stream, an additional

(32:14):
revenue stream, you know, especially when when the you're not
maybe getting the stream that you want in terms or
the income that you want in terms of just traditional broadcasters.
So this way you get a little more money coming
in from people subscribing to whatever broadcast or network thing
that you're offering. It is a it has become a

(32:34):
more popular and growing business model that a lot of broadcasters,
a lot of networks use that. Beings, said a couple
of the big boys in broadcasting that provide things to
affiliates are saying yeah, no, We're done with him. To

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So a couple of big providers and media groups have said, yeah,
that's okay that Kimmel's back. He's not gonna be back
with us. Two of the biggies, and these are biggies
in the industry, and they these people do TV shows,
talk shows, podcasts, you name it. These are some big names.

(35:16):
Let's just say in the in the broadcast world. Providers
next Star in Sinclair who said they will keep Jimmy
Kimmel's show off air companies continue preemption pending assurance that
all parties are committed to fostering the environment being respectful.

(35:37):
It's being imported by Brett Roland of the Center Square.
ABC is bringing back Jimmy Kimmels Live, but some stations
won't carry the program after the host controversy remarks about
activist Charlie Kirk's assassination. Next to Our Media Group Incorporated
announced Tuesday. The company the companies owned and partner television
stations affiliated with ABC's television network will continue to preempt

(36:01):
Kimmel's show. So, in other words, they're gonna have some
other stuff on, not Kimmel. Quote. We made a decision
last week to pram Jimmy Kimmel Live following what ABC
referred to as mister Kimmel's ill timed and insensitive comments
at a critical time in our national discourse, the company
said in the statement. We stand by that decision pending
assurances that all parties are committed to fostering an environment

(36:22):
a respectful, constructive dialogue in the markets we serve. Beginning
Tuesday night, Sinclair will be pre empting Jimmy Kimmel Live
across our ABC affiliate stations and replacing it with news programming.
The broadcasters said in the statement they didn't just really
say who or what, but that's what they're going to do.
Discussues with ABC here ongoing as we evaluate the show's

(36:42):
potential returns. So they're kind of like we're taking away
and see attitude. Of course, the Disney Company said, yeah,
we're gonna just take him down for a little while now.
Union's representing writers and actors, including the screen Actors girled.
American Federation Television Radio Arts and condemned at Disney's decision

(37:03):
to actually pull Kimmel. Other late night hosts and celebrities,
including David Letterman, Rose O'donnald, John Stewart, and John Oliver
also condemn the network suspension of Kimmel. No surprise there.
The decision to spend daring Jimmy Kimel alive is a
type of suppression and retaliation that endangers everyone's Freedom's Union
said sag After, stands with all media artists and defends

(37:24):
their right to express her diverse points of view and
everyone's right to hear them. I've got one question for
sag After and and and all these folks, and and
all these unions and so forth, Where were you when
a lot of my colleagues, Christian and otherwise and folks
doing shows very similar to this got yanked off of YouTube?

(37:47):
Where were you just just asking, just asking. So, uh,
there you have that they're pulling the plug. Sinclair pretty
much following a suit along with next Star, saying yeah,

(38:09):
we're we're gonna pull the plug on this, at least
for the time being, so we'll see. I mean, I
may may have actually put him back on.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I think they're gonna cont take a wait and see attitude.
You know, there are consequences to your speech free speech,
there are some consequences that just comes with the territory.
I went into this a little bit on last week's show. Uh,
you can go back and listen to that. I'm not

(38:35):
gonna retread. So there are some I mean, there's such
things as liable there's such things as defamation of character.
You can be sued for certain things that you say.
If you threaten with violence or with death public official.
Now it's one thing you just say, I wish a
devil would jump up and grab politician John Smith or

(38:58):
whatever and taking him down to hell. Yeah, you can
say that and you don't necessarily have to worry about
the guys in black showing up at your door about
two in the morning with the black van out front.
But if you say something to the defective boy. If
if I had the chance, I'd blow that so and
Sooe's head off, and maybe one of these days I will. Well, yeah, probably,
you know, if you're posting that all over social media,

(39:19):
then probably one night, about two in the morning, you're
gonna get a knock on the door with the men
in black and you know, the black vans, Mini vans
or the sub's waiting for you out front as they
take you and your wife and your goldfish out of
the house and interrogate you in some unknown location. Those
those kinds of things can happen, Okay, So there are consequences.

(39:43):
I mean, you got a right to say it. But
you know, you can get a knock on the door,
of a phone call, you can get a visit from
some federal agents, a couple of FBI guys or five
or six. Okay, So things like that can happen. Just
understand that there are some guardrails around the First Amendment.

(40:08):
And again, I'm about as close to a First Amendment
absolutist as you'd want to hear in front of a microphone.
I'm right up to the edge, I'm right up to
the to the I'm right up to the line as
being an absolutist with the First Amendment, I think we
need to air on the side of grace on that
rather than on the side of caution. I've always felt
that people who do stupid things, they're the ones ultimately responsible.

(40:34):
Can they be fed by ridiculous comments that people make sure,
But at the end of the day, who's the one
that pulls the trigger, who's the one that uses to knife,
who's the one that lights the fuse and sets off
the bomb? All right, So ultimately that's the person responsible.
Even even usually from some sort of a legal standpoint,
with very rare exemptions, there is something to incitement of violence,

(40:55):
but those are rare and hard cases to to produce
and to get convictions on. That's why you don't hear
about many, very many of them, because there's there's some
things you can get kind of legally, sort of mushy
and hard for prosecutors to really nail down and improve
beyond reasonable doubt and convince the jury of the jury's
trying to be wishy washy anyway about all sorts of things.

(41:17):
So good luck. So let me let you hear what
what rand Paul, who's a constitutional guide. Of course his father.
His father, Ron Paul, used to be a libertarian, became
a Republican, but Rand Paul leans libertarian. He's in the

(41:37):
Republican Party, but he tellts, in my opinion, very libertarian.
Although you know, I've noticed a lot of libertarians being
kind of quiet during this time too. I don't know
what's going on there, but anyway, he said, it's absolutely
appropriate for FCC the weigh in on Kimba's suspension. This
is being ported by Breitbart dot Com Pam Key Sunday
on NBC's Meet the Depressed. I'm not stealing that from

(41:58):
Rush Limball. When I was a kid and my dad
would watch Meet Meet the Press on Sunday mornings. Why
aren't you watching Meet the Depressed. Let's watch something else. No,
he was watching Meet the Depressed, he said in Federal
Communications Commissioned Chairman Brendan Carr's comments about ABC and comedian

(42:18):
Jimmy Kimmel were absolutely inappropriate. Now he was talking with
host Christen Welker. Let met you here the clip, and again,
this is a Republican. This is Rand Paul Republican. Sometimes
I like to call them Republicans. Uh So this is
a repub and even Ted Cruz kind of echoed the

(42:42):
similar sentiments to Rand Paul on this. Of course, he's
a big constitution guy too. Well, the head of the
FCC went just just a bit over the line himself
on this again, because the FCC, in terms of regulating content,
the gauge is incredible narrow, extremely narrow, especially since the

(43:05):
fairness doctrine got tossed out many many moons ago. I mean,
ut less, you're saying one of the seven deadly cuss
words before ten o'clock usually PM in the evening, in
your broadcast of Vicinity. I'm talking about on over the air,
you know, legacy medium. We're talking about on podcasts. On podcasts.
People you know you have the words, the the F bomb.
But ifact't let you hear a guy's podcast, or not

(43:28):
necessarily a podcast. I don't think'sucking. I think this guy
was just ranting. I'll let you hear where I had
to beat a bunch of stuff because well, this guy,
this guy needs at thisaurus. But anyway, you'll hear that
after a while. So they don't generally speaking governing anything
like that. We're talking about broadcasters with an antenna, you know,
a stick up in the air broadcasting over the airwaves

(43:48):
or through maybe the cable systems. But let me ch
hear what Ram Paul had to say.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
Welcome back and joining me now I was Republican Senator
Ran Paul of Kentucky. Senator Paul, welcome back to meet
the press.

Speaker 8 (44:05):
Good morning, thanks for having me.

Speaker 7 (44:07):
Good morning to you. Thank you so much for being here.
Of course, today is the memorial service for Charlie Kirk.
I know you have called him a friend, and Senator
you of course have been impacted by political violence yourself.
In twenty seventeen, you were on the baseball field when
shots rang out when Congressman Steve shot. He did survive.

(44:32):
But Senator, I wonder what do you think the legacy
of Charlie.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Kirk will be.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
You know, I went to many of Charlie Kirk's rallies.
My wife spoke at his rallies. I spoke on campus
with him. Events similar to the one where he died.
The events earlier on weren't as big. They got bigger
over time. But he was an incredible young man. I think, articulate,
thoughtful and if you really see the people came up
to him that had a different viewpoint. He would hear

(45:00):
them out, and that's different than a lot of the
argumentation you see either on TV or on the internet,
where everybody's drowning people out. He actually would listen to people.
So I think he'll be remembered for that, and also
being remembered for a guy that's trying to spread the
gospel of Jesus Christ, and that I think should be applauded.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
Well. Thousands paying tribute to him today, Senator, so we
appreciate that. I do want to talk about ABC's decision
this week to suspend Jimmy Kimmel's late night show after,
of course, he was criticized for comments he made in
the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, and hours after the
FCC chairman Brendan Carr said this, take a look.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I mean, look, we can do this the easy way
or the hard way. These companies can find ways to
change conduct, to take action frankly on Kimmel, or you
know there's gonna be additional work for the FCC.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
Ahead, Senator, do you believe that Brendan Carr's comments were appropriate?

Speaker 8 (45:58):
Absolutely inappropriate. Brendan Carr has got no business weighing in
on this, But people have to also realize that despicable comments.
You have the right to say them, but you don't
have the right to employment. Virtually everybody employed, probably including yourself,
as a code of conduct in your contract that you
have to adhere to. NFL players have it, Major League
Baseball players have it. And if you don't adhere to

(46:20):
that conduct, if you say things that are reprehensible or
that glorify someone's death or make fun of it in
some way, yeah, you can be fired. Right, So the
FCC should have nothing to do with it. What I
do think that a couple of the networks pulled out,
Sinclair pulled out, They were discussed by the comments. That's
their right. You could be fired for not being popular. Also,

(46:42):
I mean, this is television, for goodness sakes. You have
to sell sponsorships, you have to sell commercials, and if
you're losing money, you can be fired. But the government's
got no business in it. And the FCC was wrong
to weigh in. And I'll fight any attempt by the
government to get involved with speech.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I will fight, and I agree with that, And I
was glad to see rand say that, but you know,
I'm glad he sort of put a caveat in there
on that, because you do if you do sign one
of these ethical it's a conduct. It's a contract that
has like a code of ethics in it that you
have to adhere to. That's basically what the broadcaster says,

(47:20):
you know, kind of hear your guardrails of what you
can and can pretty much do on the air, can't
do or can do, et cetera. For most of these
big networks and even smaller radio stations. I did it
with a Christian station that I was on. I had
to sign an ethics agreement, and a lot of stations
will make you sign those, especially in the religious broadcasting.

(47:42):
You sign those. Those are kind of standard. You're going
to sign one of those. So if you violate that,
or they believe you violate that, or they in their
attorney agree or feel that you violated that, then they
can can. And of course if you're one of these
right to work stags the States and can you fro
almost anything really, but that comes with a territory, all right.

(48:03):
That's part of the broadcasting world. And there's other industries
that have these ethical code of conduct to agreement things
that you sign, especially if you're going to be the
face of that company. You're going to go out as
either a leader of the company or a representative of
the company, and you're going to be the face of
the company, so to speak. Then you will definitely sign

(48:26):
those while you're doing that gig. You'll definitely typically sign
those kinds of agreements, and they are to protect the
image of the company, right, wrong or different, because, let's
face it, image now is everything's about image right again,
right wrong or different. I know it's superficial, and you
getistical and all that, but that's how companies roll these days,
and unless somebody comes up with a law against that,

(48:48):
it's perfectly legal. So he's right. Rand Paul is right
on that. And I think this. I think what happened
with Jimmy Kimmel alssely had more to do with ABC
flipping out on what he said and watching their brand
go down the drain and Disney too, than any kind
of sideways comment from the head of the FCC, which

(49:10):
was inappropriate and I think probably stirred the pot a
bit and maybe maybe laid the log on the fire,
But I think the fire was already raging, you know
what I'm saying. I think this is. I think even
if Brandon, even if Carr had kept his mouth completely
shut on this and said nothing, I think this would
have still gone down with Kimmel. But he's back, and
I knew it would be. I knew this was going
to be a slap on the wrist. They're going to

(49:31):
sit him down in a chair, tie him down to
a chair, whatever, put the put the put the light
over him, you know, in the dark room, over his face,
and go we have vase of closing you to do?
What do we need you to do? You know? So
I don't know. Something happened, and we'll see if they've
got him on a shorter leisure not. Let mean, let's
see who knows what will happened. So I think it's

(49:55):
more of a wait and see kind of a thing.
But that's Ran Paul's take on the thing. I pretty
much agree with him. I think he's right. Let's go
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Speaker 2 (52:25):
So Google admitting political censorship on YouTube, promising now to
embrace a free speech like, we didn't know that there
was some censorship going on on Google. They've been busted
out on it so many times. They did not know algorithms, right, Sure,

(52:45):
we're explain something about algorithms. Gang some more inside baseball. Okay,
Way back in the ancient days, I used to work
for a company called IBM, also known as Big Blue
Big Blue Chipstock, one of the largest employers in the nation,
a pretty big one in the world for that matter.

(53:06):
And computers are very simple. I don't care what the
technology is. I don't care what the software is. I
don't care if it's AI, it doesn't matter. Garbage in,
garbage out, real simple. Okay. These algorithms just don't kind
of do something on their own. Computer technology, and even
software technology is very stupid. You have to tell it

(53:29):
what to do. You have to give it basic information.
Now it might choose from some things, but you've got
to give it some things to choose from. Okay, you
have to put the information in it to get a
particular result out. So don't sit there and say, well,

(53:50):
you know, it's an algorithm thing. And that's just the
way the algorithm kind of set it up. So when
you search you on Google, you know, the algorithm like,
this algorithm has its own kind of artificial intelligence. By
the way. That let me just say this, anyone who's
really super honest in the high tech world, and and
and the phrase is thrown around a lot about artificial

(54:11):
intelligence kind of sort of but not really. Again, it
all goes back to garbage in, garbage out. You have
to tell these things at least to a certain extent
what to do or they don't do them. All Right,
so all this nonsense from Google, well, not really our fault.
We should tell the oh, you know, just we'll we'll
go back and review the algorithm in the program. And

(54:34):
who like it's kind of its own little entity with
its own artificial intelligence sitting over in a corner doing
something weird that they just don't know about. Complete bovine
fegal matter, right, just understand that. Okay, this is being
imported by Shamananbridbart dot com. Google finally a menting political
censorship on YouTube. Huh promising to brave face speech. I

(54:57):
believe I want to see it, but okay. Google on
Tuesday promised to restore YouTube accounts that have been banned
for political speech, admitting that the Biden administration pressured it
to censor Americans. It did not violate the company's terms
of service. Ah so you buckled under political pressure. Just
want to make sure of that, because that's what a
lot of us had suspected, even though you sat there

(55:19):
and denied it. They said this in a letter to
House Jujudiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, an Ohio boy quote
reflecting the company's commitment to free expression. YouTube will provide
and I'm sure this was a scandover by a lawyer
as well, YouTube will provide an opportunity for all creators
to rejoin the platform if the company terminated their channels

(55:43):
for repeated violations of COVID nineteen and Elections and Integrity policies,
they are no longer in a fact, unquote wait for it,
wait for it, a lawyer representing Google wrote to jordans Ah,
I see yeah. The letter would likely affect pro Trump

(56:07):
political commentators such as White House counter Terrorism Chief Sebastian
Sebastian Gorka warroom hosts. I just I just like making
fun of him. He's a cool guy. I mean, I
like him. He's just he's a super smart dude. But
he just I don't know, he sounds like he sounds
like one of those evil supervillain. He's not. I'm sure

(56:28):
he's a sweet, wonderful man, but he sounds like one
of those evil supervillains like you see on the cartoons,
like on he Man. You know, the he Man would
go after it's doctor Gorka. He remember the he Man shows.
Come on, I'm not the only one to remember those
cartoons anyway. Warroom host Steve Bannon an FBI Deputy director

(56:49):
Dan Bongino, whom were banned over speech relating to the
coronavirus pandemic or election related content they just didn't like him.
YouTube had banned bond Gina, for example, who moved to
alternative video streaming platform Rumble over alleging spreading misinformation about
mass during the coronavirus pandemic. Google's a video platform, said

(57:12):
it values conservative voices on its platforms okay, and admitted
that the creators have extensive reach and play an important
role in civic discourse. Unquote, m H got a fool moon.
I mean, I'm not. I don't consider myself quote unquote
a hardcore conservative. A lot of people told me in
that category, I'm a Christian in the constitutional stuff. Now,
if that makes me a hard core conservative, okay. If

(57:33):
that makes me a classic liberal, okay. If that makes
me an independent somewhere in the middle, okay, I don't care.
I don't like labels. If you hadn't noticed, Google then
admitted that the Biden administration pressured the big tech company
to remove alleged misinformation relating to the pandemic. Quote, senior
Biden administration officials, including the White House officials, conducted repeated

(57:54):
and sustained outreach to Alphabet that's Google, basically who owns YouTube,
and pressed the company regarding certain user generated content related
to the COVID nineteen pandemic that did not violate his policies.
The lawyer wrote to Jordan, wonder if this guy was
a lawyer back then? A lawyer also said that that

(58:18):
President Joe Biden and his officials created this is a
quote quote created a political atmosphere that sought to influence
the actions of platforms based on their concerns regarding misinformation
and quote now that is true because remember we had
old Zuckerberg say the same thing that happened to Facebook.
And then of course the trows and troughs and trunches

(58:39):
and trenches of emails that after the Musker took over Twitter,
which he renamed Acts, which I think was a mistake.
But once he took it over, I'm rename it, not
him taking over necessarily. Then all of a sudden they discovered,
you know, thousands of emails from all sorts of folks
in the government, especially people in the White House, saying hey,

(59:01):
you need another word, censorship by proxy, which is the
First Amendment violation, though the Supreme Court kind of road
defense on that and I think they were dead wrong.
But anyway, Lawyers said that the President, Joe Biden and
the officials created a political atmosphere that sought to influence
the actions of platforms based on concerns of going to misinformation.
Google said that said that Jordan and the Judiciary Committee

(59:25):
have quote taken important steps to highlight that onerous obligations
under laws such as the Digital Services Act and the
Digital Markets Act may stifle innovation and restrict access to
information unquote. In other words, okay, yeah, you got us.

(59:45):
We messed up. The folks in Congress called us on
our stuff. We're sorry, and we're going to have a
lawyer talk to you because you know, we're just not
when all those fellows put the lawyers out there, right,
Nothing against lawyers per se. There's good ones and bad ones,
but yeah, okay. Jordan had recently told bright Barton News

(01:00:07):
that the European Union in the United Kingdom are actually
acting exactly like the Biden administration and pushing big tech
platforms to center of peace speech. There's a lot of
censorship going on right now. I mean a ton in Europe.
It's starting to look like Nazi Europe. It really is.
It's really getting weird. It's getting very weird. And in fact,
there's this I Am Charlie movement that's going on in

(01:00:31):
Europe right now. I don't know if it's necessarily because
of what Charlie spiritually believed, but Charlie representing them sort
of an icon of freedom of speech, I think more
than anything. We got to take a top of the
Hour break, actually a little bit past Top of the
r But when we come back from that break, I've
got a clip from an activist that you might want
to hear, plus a very disturbing info from a major polar.

(01:00:54):
I mean they're there, mainstream polar They're not like you know,
right left or left wing or right wing or any wing.
It's kind of one of these just sort of major,
major generic polars. And if they're pulling info is correct. Wow,
it's disturbing, but not surprising. Not surprising to me, but yeah, disturbing.

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Not much surprises me these days. I've been doing this
a while, we've become cynical. I hope I haven't, but
you know, there's just not much new under the sun.
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(01:05:56):
you hear a clip in just a moment from an
activist he's actually transactivist. It's pushing for a bloody fight
and urging others to rise up in murder Americans who
think like Charlie Kirk. Now, let me say this. I
have also seen on TikTok and YouTube and other channel
some crossdressers and trans folks who are very upset by
what happened to Charlie kirk. Kirk. Now, they didn't necessarily

(01:06:17):
agree with him. A lot of them really agreed with
a lot of what he said, but they didn't necessarily
agree with everything he said. But they were appalled at
what had happened. This narrative or idea that you know,
all all trans people are bloodthirsty and ready to kill somebody,
not true, and I think there's some evidence of that

(01:06:37):
out out there. But there are a few nitwits and
just just people that I think really need They well,
they need Jesus. Let's just cut to the chase on
that they need Jesus, and a lot of therapy too
to probably go with that. But they need Jesus. And
this one needs also Jesus in a theosaurus because his

(01:07:00):
bookcabulary seems very limited. Anyway, this being worried by jo
kovax Rule at Daily dot Com, transgender activist has issued
a graphic call to assassinated with the Americans who think
like Charlie Kirk, the Christian Conservative champion who was gunned
down September tenth. Now there's a video out of the actives,
and of course I pulled the audio from it. Video
of the activists, whom a social media user to identify

(01:07:22):
as Kimberly McNeely at purported to Roe card reader from Murphysboro, Tennessee,
or Tennessee's correct pronunciation pardon me, reveals a the sturbing
call for blood, recorded day after Kirk was struck by
a bullet while speaking at a Utah Valley University on
or Utah. All right, I will let you hear this,

(01:07:43):
and it's I had to delete all the the F
bombs in there, all the fornications under command of king,
which is where that term allegedly comes from. Where allegedly
comes from. It's an abbreviation of that apparently. But anyway,

(01:08:04):
that being said, I had to bleep a bunch of them.
And it's just one after the other. The guy needs, like,
you know, update his pocabulary and get get up, I
don't know, get any get at the source. But let
me let you hear this. And uh, he's not alone.
I've got a poll that's going to maybe shock some

(01:08:25):
of you, maybe not, but I'm gonna I'm gonna read
to you here in just a bit as soon as
we're done listening to this. And again, this is this
particular transactivist.

Speaker 14 (01:08:46):
So look, Charlie Kirk, I'll say it with my whole chest.
Charlie Kirk, that man spread hatful record. You guys, now,
if you're watching this, there's a good chance if you
if you paying any attention to my take, you already know.

(01:09:06):
But I think when people don't realize is how much
privilege it's coming from the people who feel like they're
left leaning. But suddenly as soon as things get violent,
as of things get bloody, not me, No, I have
too much empathy. I don't want to see that. I
don't want to see people hurt. Nobody deserves that. No,

(01:09:26):
some people do deserve that. People whose lives are causing
death and harm to others, they deserve it. I hope
he's the first of many, because it's not like our kindness,
our empathy is keeping our people from getting killed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
It's not.

Speaker 14 (01:09:45):
It's it's not like silence is complicity. I've been teaching
a class on just this thing, Like it's time for
minorities to stop being small, stop being quiet, stop being
very digestible, to rise up to fight back. And sometimes

(01:10:06):
fighting is messy. Sometimes it's bloody, and that's the way
it has to be. I'm not going to apologize for that,
like I will I will die on the hill. I
recognize my views lean utilitarian, I recognize the flaws in
that logic, but also show me a better way, because

(01:10:27):
nothing so far is working, you know, like capitalism's growing
and growing. Patriarchy is growing and growing. Nothing's getting better. Sociated,
people are afraid two.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Do what it.

Speaker 14 (01:10:48):
Takes, you know, like even when you're not the one
getting your hands dirty. Don't condemn those who are so
done that they did what they had to do to
take a stand Like, no, killing one person isn't going
to fix things. But making people afraid to speak that

(01:11:14):
kind of rhetoric make me, making people think twice, making
people feel not empowered, Yeah, that will.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
So notice in the background a lot of emotion.

Speaker 14 (01:11:29):
And logical flaws In my argument, I think he can
be stripped all that away. I don't think the core
premise is wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah, he actually probably speaks for a few folks is
a scary part. And again this this guy needs christ
Like in a major way. But that aside and some
of this, how serious should we take this guy? Is

(01:12:04):
this gonna be the next guy to grab a gunna shoot?
Somebody would one hundred percent put it past him. No,
but talk is cheap. Would he actually do it? Would
he actually have the gump should to do it? I
don't know? Kind of leaning not because anybody can sit

(01:12:25):
behind a keyboarder in front of a video cam and
be a warrior right an SJW. But I just I
kind of have my doubts. I mean, I wouldn't be
surprised in some ways, but I also would not be
surprised if you didn't do a darn thing. The video

(01:12:48):
has since been taken down on scrub By the way,
but you can go to the wayback machine in other
places and find things like this this from ras Mussin
or ras Mussin, depending on your pronunciation potato potato, tomato tomato,
ras Mussen ras Museon poll, fifty four percent of liberals
call Kirk's killing understandable. Being reported by James morleythirdnewsmax dot com,

(01:13:15):
just over half of America's liberal quote unquote voters and
forty percent of registered Dems believed that the assassination of
Turning Point USA CEO Charlie Kirk was understandable. According to
a new poll release Tuesday from the ras Museen rass
Mussen Reports. Survey revealed fifty four percent of liberal voters
believe that the conservative leader trafficked in quote hateful rhetoric

(01:13:39):
and therefore viewed his murder as understandable. I'm gonna play
you a clip to show you just how hateful tongue
in cheek, Charlie Cook, he was actually talking to a
transperson quote Charlie Kirk was speaking hateful words, and his
murder was tragic, but understandable, said four percent of liberals

(01:14:00):
and almost half of Democrats. Only nine percent of Republicans
polled found Kirk's killing understandable. Now, I did say that
I wasn't surprised, not because that he was being hateful
or mean or whatever, but I just know how crazy
people are these days, so part of me given what
he was doing. It's not a criticism of what he
was doing. I think it took a lot of gusts

(01:14:21):
to do what he did, and a lot of strength
of the Holy Spirit to keep his sanity, and he
as a gentleman ways intact and do it. But given
the kind of people that he was in the places
he was going to, and knowing how some of those

(01:14:42):
people get so triggered over anything, and literally obviously someone
got literally triggered to pull the trigger. That's why I
wasn't surprised, not because I felt it was his fault
in any shape, fashion or form. Won't make they real clear.
When the voting public as a whole was met, The
majority said that they believe Kirk was more of a

(01:15:03):
unifying voice. Erasmus and reported that sixty two percent agreed
that Charlie Kirk was peacefully and respectfully debating people. It
is a tragedy that he was murdered unquote. Now. The
survey is actually one of the first assess the country's
political pulse of Kirk and his legacy since his murder
on September tenth at Utah Valley University in Orum. Pull

(01:15:24):
was conducted prior to Sunday's memorial at State Farm Stadium
in Glendale, Arizona. So it may even be, you know,
could maybe some people are backing off of that view
now after that. I don't know who knows, but that
is to me disturbing that that many people feel that

(01:15:45):
political debate and political discourse sometimes just just must go
ahead and end in triggers being pulled and bullets whizzing.
That that's where we're at. I don't think we've been
at this point in our nation's history where that many
people thought it was okay for guns to start entering

(01:16:08):
a political discussion since well the Civil War, since about
early eighteen sixty one. Oh yeah, and I'm just stating
the historical fact that was Democrats who were light in
the fuse of the cannons there, Charleston Harbor to Bombard,

(01:16:31):
Fort Sumter, those were Southern Democrats. So that's just a
historical fact. Sorry, Dems, it's part of your history. I
sort of chuckle whenever I started seeing these Confederate statues
taken down. Ah, you want to scrub some of that
Southern Democrat history, right, take those statues down because the

(01:16:53):
kids really start to dig around and figure out who
those people were, that they were Southern Democrats. Well, we've
lost them, so let's just go ahead and take Let's
just go ahead and just shut all that stuff down
right now. It's funny because I've even seen people on
i mean talking heads on some of these networks you
don't know better, that said, some of those statues are Republicans. No,

(01:17:21):
the Republicans were pretty much. There were a few Republicans
in the South, but all the leaders of the Confederacy
and the generals. Yeah, those folks who are all Southern Democrats,
and they weren't Republicans. Jefferson Davis was not a Republican.
Lincoln was a Republican. And I'm not painting the Republicans

(01:17:43):
that they're necessarily being you know, one hundred percent righteous either,
But that's just that's just an historical fact. Gang, I mean,
it's just that's just history. It's the way it is.
Like it or not. Scrub it or leave it. But
that's that's just those are just historical facts. If you
want to get technical, in the Civil War in part
was Northern Republicans versus Southern Democrats. I mean, if you
want to just boil it down to it's its nuts

(01:18:05):
and bolts, that's kind of what it would it boiled
down to. So we've seen this before and that that
was a bloody stinking mess. So we don't want to
go down that road again because now the weapons are
even worse than we're back then. And can you imagine,
I mean, my gosh, it would just be it'd be horrific.
If if this thing were to go to a full
till war, it just it'd be bad, be horrific. I

(01:18:28):
don't think we'd ever recover from it, to be honest,
I think it'd be that. I think it'd be that bad.
I think it just it ruin our nation forever. So
we got to avoid something like that if we can,
if we can help it. But I'm praying that we
that that the Lord will help it and that we can.
But this, this is kind of giving you a sense

(01:18:49):
of where we're at. And this kid that was speaking
a socialist often quoted from Chairman Mao China, the power
comes from the end of a gun barrel. This is
part and parcel to a lot of the extreme Marxism
communism philosophies that are out there that violence is okay.
If that's what it takes to get our side over

(01:19:11):
the top, then yeah, we're going to do it and
shut you up permanently. Those of you who don't believe
in our mast Marxonian utopia, well we're going to do it.
And that is a very dangerous place for us to
be as a society. And it's very dangerous that has
entered the political realm, the political discussion that now guns

(01:19:35):
are ny ring or the talk of guns and the
talk of death and violence are seriously being justified and
considered by that much of the country. That that's kind
of sobering. That's very sobering. But that's who are round.
This is why I keep saying, guys, your personal faith,

(01:19:56):
you be praying, be praying because this this country has
got to change course. And I mean pretty quickly and
pretty bigly, biglely. All Right, Gosh, I've got so much

(01:20:17):
here to cover. It's just it's just so much. But
I wanted to share that Rudy Giuliani, remember him or
Giuliani Rudy Giuliani or Giuliani playing a pronunciation, we wor
about News Newsmax Wires forming a way with Gyeork City

(01:20:38):
Mayor Rudy Giuliani or Giuliani playing a pronunciation delivered a
blistering critique of Fox News during a Friday appearance on
Newsmax The Chris Salcedo Show. See I'm a I'm a
pox on everybody. I'm a pox on everybody. I I
I hit, I hit all sides in the middle because

(01:20:58):
I know there's a lot of Fox News folks that
listened to the show. Sorry, but when it's there, it's there.
You know, I'm not gonna sure got it but Fox
News during a Friday appearance on Newsmax Chris Helsatos Show,
accusing the network of silencing key conservative voices, including himself
and the late Turning Point USA co founder Charlie Kirk.

(01:21:19):
Giuliana's remarks came amid renewed scrutiny over Fox's treatment of
Kirk following his recent death, with critics charging Fox News
with hypocrasy for praising Kirk while having effectively banned him
from their airwaves for a few years. And that's true.
And I thought that as well. I thought, well, because
I mean, boy, people were just i mean holding back

(01:21:40):
the tears, and I was thinking, well, no, wait a minute,
you pretty much banned the guy from your network, was
until the tail end of twenty twenty four, after The
Orange Man won that, Well, maybe we're going to get
this kid on just for a little perspective here. Really,
now you want him on? Now the Orange Man is
won by darn near landslide. Now you got a permission

(01:22:00):
slip from your bosses or your producers to put him
on the show. I kind of thought, yeah. And then
now the you know, the outpouring and the boohooing and
the oh just he's a martyr and uh and and
just the all that I'm thinking, hmmm, really really so

(01:22:26):
Giuliani or Giuliani said, well, I was completely banned from
the network, Giuliani told host Chris Alseto, they don't even
interview me, and didn't even interview me on September eleven anymore.
For ten or twelve straight years, I was interviewed live
on Fox and Friends to talk about September eleven, which
I imagine would be a time you'd want to talk
to me, right since they banned me, several of their
people have thought they could put me on and then

(01:22:47):
had to call me and tell me, no, you're not allowed.
And he was once kind of a fixture on Fox
News there for a while, but they kind of parted
ways with him after the twenty twenty election disputes. Of course,
that was about the time, and they not long after
that they cut ties with Tucker Carlson and some others
at least three or four. On at least three or

(01:23:08):
four occasions, very decent, wonderful people that were friends of
mine want to put me on, and then they'd have
to call and tell me either, I'm sorry, they won't
let you on. The former mayor emphasized his early role
in helping Fox establish itself in New York City, recalling
how he arranged deals that gave the fledging channel a
foothold in the market, he said, quote also up to

(01:23:31):
establish Fox News in New York. They wouldn't have been
on in New York it wasn't for my making a
deal with them as mayor to give them the New
York City station for a large amount of money on unquote.
Guliani's criticisms that go brought a frustration from America First Conservatives,
who are at Fox's sideline pro Trump voices, notably Kirk.
Caroline ran, a longtime Republican fundraiser, blast of the network

(01:23:52):
on social media for it's double standards regarding Kirk. They
want to say, quote, appreciate the coverage Fox News is
giving Charlie Kirk tonight, but let's not get the Fox
banned Charlie from coming on the network from twenty twenty
one to twenty twenty four, ren wrote, and went on
to say, quote and the same anchors crying on air
tonight over losing an amazing champion for free speech are

(01:24:13):
the same anchors who wouldn't have the guts challenged Rupert Murdoch,
Paul Ryan, and Carl Rove when they banned Charlie from
their network unquote. In fact, Fox News treatment of Kirk
has drawn particularly ire from his assassination. Early this month,
despite the network's on air tributes, former Fox host Meghan

(01:24:33):
Kelly accused of network at hypocrisy. In fact, she slammed
Fox for banning Charlie Kirk to begin with, and she's
not holding back. She's getting pretty crisp and sailor mouthed,
shall we say, on her podcast and when she gets
on other people's podcast, it's like if you have a
bleep button ready? But on her podcast to began Kelly Show,

(01:24:56):
she said, it's really bothering me now how Fox knew
is talking about Charlie like he was there as he
was and it's a lie. Just stop. Fox News wouldn't
put Charlie on. I know this from my own behind
the scenes conversations. They were annoyed on Team Charlie because
he was banned he had been too supportive of Tucker Carlson.
In fact, Kelly noted that Kirk disappeared from Fox's programming

(01:25:19):
after Carlson's Ulster in twenty twenty three, servicing only rare
appearances in late twenty twenty four. Again, that was after
the Orange Man won the election by Darni air landslide.
So there's plenty of could call it censorship of sorts
and banning of sorts going on on all sides and

(01:25:39):
has been for some time. You know, he was a
controversial guy about what made him controversial was because he
stood his ground. Now, I want you to hear a
clip before I go to break. This is Charlie Kirk,
the hateful, spiteful, mean spirited, begoted elan Omar said he
needed to go into the dust in history, that he

(01:26:00):
was a terrorist and everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
I want you hear this clip, and this is him
talking to a trans person, and you draw out your
own conclusions. This is a clip of Charlie Kirk on
a university campus. I remember which one talking to a
trans person.

Speaker 10 (01:26:20):
Okay, say I'm a transgender male.

Speaker 15 (01:26:27):
What age should kids be able to get things like
hormone therapy?

Speaker 10 (01:26:30):
Because I don't know what's true what's not?

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Tell me?

Speaker 16 (01:26:33):
Are you comfortable telling me your story?

Speaker 15 (01:26:35):
I've known that since like third grade, and I'm currently
nineteen almost twenty.

Speaker 10 (01:26:41):
I've known basically since then.

Speaker 15 (01:26:43):
I didn't start going by like a different name until
seventh and eighth grade.

Speaker 10 (01:26:48):
I just don't know, like with the like.

Speaker 15 (01:26:51):
The whole medical stuff, like what's true, what's not, what's helpful,
because I've heard so many different opinions.

Speaker 16 (01:26:55):
First, ault, thank you so much for that.

Speaker 10 (01:26:57):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 16 (01:26:58):
So I'm going to have an opinion that very few
people will ever tell you, which is I want you
to be very cautious putting drugs into your system in
the pursuit of changing your body. I instead encourage you
to work on what's going on in your brain first.
I think what you need first and foremost is just
a diagnosis, just someone that is going to listen to

(01:27:18):
what you've gone through, listen to what else is going on.
My prayer for you, and again, very people will say this,
I actually want to see you be comfortable in how
you were born. I know that you might not feel
that way, but I think that is something that you
can achieve. I think that with the right team and
the right people, you don't have to wage war on
your body. You can learn to love your body.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Now. Was that so bad? Was that terroristic? Was that hateful?
Was he being disrespectful to that trans person? Was he
saying you're going to hell right now, You're gonna hit
Hell's hard. Yeah, he didn't say that he didn't act
like that. He was very respectful, really didn't mention. I mean,

(01:28:03):
he kind of hinted it maybe a little a little
bit of Christianity there. He kind of hinted at it,
but didn't beat you over the head with a Bible
either or him. So all this and listen, I have
watched quite a few hours of Charlie Kirk in these

(01:28:25):
last several years. He kind of hit my radar screen
just a few short years ago kind of I kind
of heard about him, and I got some emails from
Turning Point usay this, and then again like, wells this spam.
You know, I get so much spam. I get so
many different emails, so many different groups, and kind of
you know, so I'm sure a few things probably wound
up in my spam box. But I kind of started

(01:28:46):
checking out his YouTube videos and things about him on TikTok.
TikTokers are putting some of his debates up. He and
Ben Shapiro. I kind of like to watch there because
Ben Shapiro does something very akin to what to what
Charlie Kirk has been doing. They're they're sort of, uh,

(01:29:07):
What's what I'm looking for? They're they're they're very much
contemporaries of each other because because again and I hope, gosh,
I hope, uh, I hope Ben's wearing bulletproof vests because
he's right in there doing exactly what what what Charlie
Kirk did in many ways. Of course, he's he's Jewish,

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not against Christians by any means, doesn't believe that Jesus
is his savior, though I think he's I think he
might be thinking because I've seen some folks kind of
challenge him, so he's he's been challenged. But anyway, another story.
But they are contemporaries of each other in a sense.
But I've never I've never seen better Shapiro get just

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mean and mean spirited and disrespectful with people and calling
people ugly names. And I never saw that with Charlie.
I just haven't seen it yet. Maybe it's out there,
and I just I'm not watching the right videos now,
and I'm not gonna sit until I watch every single video.
Charlie Kirk ever put out, I don't you know, I've
got a life. I've got a wife who is suffering

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with disabilities that I'm hurt, you know, primary caretaker and
things of that nature. Plu's just you know, doing what
I got to do to keep roof overhead. So you know,
I've got bills, paying a life to live, so I
can't just sit around, you know, for hours and hours,
day after day, week after week, watching nothing but Charlie
Kirk videos. But the ones I have seen, and I've
seen quite a few of them over the past few years,

(01:30:31):
and little TikTok snippets and things of this nature and that. Now,
I've seen some stuff that's been edited out of context,
but the ones that are in context, Yeah, I mean,
he's very spect I don't. I don't I mean all
this that, oh he's a racist and he's where show
me the Please send me the video. I want to
see it now. I don't mean something that's been edited

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up to wear an AI and you know, I mean
a legitimate, in context, unedited video of Charlie Kirk just
saying out lantishly racist things, saying out lanishly insultory things,
calling people ugly names, and going on and on like that.

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And yeah, I'll I mean, I'm not gonna say the
man should have been killed, but I will then say, okay,
well he was a hypocrite or he or he had
some really bad and we all have bad days. But
I'm saying, if you can, if you can send me
and the email is talked to Richie Ell at gmail
dot com. T A L K T O R I
C H I L at gmail dot com, if you

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can find a trove I mean not just one or two,
I mean you can find a trove of unedited videos
where he is saying blatantly racist, ugly horrible things about people,
saying ugly things about the Jewish people, saying ugly things,

(01:31:55):
I mean, horrible things that are just over the top,
and you can find me a significant number of those,
then I will say, Okay, Charlie Kirk had some issues.
Charlie Kirk wasn't always being straight up then, but find

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them for me, because I can't. I haven't found any
yet against not something that's ai, not something that's all
edited up to say something that he didn't say. I'm
talking an unedited in context several minute cut. Okay, that's
the that's the rule there of Charlie Kirk being very ugly,

(01:32:47):
being very racist. I want to see it, because I
haven't found it. Of course, I know what somewhere I said, Well,
we always took him to own. Okay, well that's not
a good fallback. Let's take a pause. More Gristian talk

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that rocks stay close.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
More talk continues next with Ritchie more Christian talked at rocks.

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Speaker 12 (01:33:32):
Oh, this is Max McClain. God created all things by
his word. How does the word have the power to create?
Because his word is a person. Listen to the Bible
from John one. In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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He was with God in the beginning. Through him, all
things were made. Without him, nothing was made that has
been made. In him was life, and that life was
the light of men. The light shines in the darkness,
but the darkness has not understood it. He was in
the world, and though the world was made through him,

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the world did not recognize him. From John one, Listen
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Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
All Right, shifting gears. Crazy stuff still going on in schools.
Maybe a school near you. Crazy stuff. Vermont Christian School
reinstated after being banned for refusing to compete against the
trans athletes. It's being reported by Katherine Hamilton Breitbart dot com.
A federal appeals court has determined in a favor of

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a Christian school in Vermont that was banned by state
officials from participating in school competitions for refusing to play
against a team with a transcender identifying athlete. The US
Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit issued an order
on September ninth, overturning a lower court order and granting
a preliminary injunction to mid Vermont Christian School blocking the
Vermont Principles Association the VPA expulsion of the school as

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litigation goes on, and this is also reported by Fox
News being a witch panlav judges determined that the school
is likely to succeed on its free exercise claim because
of a vpa's action show hostility toward the school's religious
beliefs unquote. The hostility towards the religion is in most
cases in this country kind of a no no when

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you're going to do things with this nature that have
a legal impact. February of twenty twenty three, mid Vermont's
girls basketball team forfeited a playoff game against a Long
Trail school after they found out a transgender identifying male
student was on the opposing team. Mid Vermont school officials
said at the time that they were concerned about fairness
and safety for their female players that according to the report,

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a few weeks later, the VPA responded by expelling the
Christian School from all states sponsored sports, as well as
non athletic events such as science fairs and spelling bases. Apparently,
this VPA has a lot of power alliance, maybe too much.
Alliance Defending Freedom A subsequently fought a lawsuit against state
officials on behalf of the Christian School and one of

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its families. Lawsuit alleges that the state officials punished the
school for exercise against religious liberty, which is protected by
the First Amendment. Vp executive director j Nichols allegedly accused
the school of blatant discrimination under the guys of religious
freedom to two days after the school forfeited the game
that according to court documents, the vpa's Appeals committee also
called the schools safety concerns a myth and labeled its

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religious objection wrong. The report states, you're wrong for believing
things that the Bible says, and you're wrong for your
Christian faid, and you're just Jesus is wrong. You need
to get a haircut. It is a myth that transgender
students endanger others when they participate in high school sports
or great unfair competition. Well maybe they didn't want this
guy checking out their junk in the locker room. There
is that the committee road in my words inserted there.

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Head coach Chris Goodwin, who has held the position for
almost a decade and whose daughter is a member of
the team, told the outlet that the school's decision was
tough but necessary. It's clear and scripture that there is
a difference between males and females. So if we decided
to play that game in essence, we'd be agreeing with
the states belief system that boys can be girls and

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male athletes can be female athletes. These are the same
people that talk about the science. We've got a fall
of science. When it comes to code, we've got a
fall of science. So you'd better wear a mask and
we're shutting down the schools and you're going home. We're
shutting down the churches too, And you don't think we're
keeping open as the liquor stores and the strip clubs. Otherwise,
you've got to go home because we're following the science. Really,

(01:38:17):
so from the same hypocrites who follow the science. They
believe that a boy can magically turn into a girl
and a girl can magically get turned into a boy. These
are the same science people that will pound the desk
and say we've got to follow science, established science. Well,
there's no established science that a man, at least at

(01:38:37):
this point was where we're at with science, can become
a fully functioning woman with a womb and all the
parts to make a baby right and carry a baby
to term. Because I mean, that's what I mean, that
mad in essence is what makes a woman a woman.
You know, she's got those those body parts internally over,

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has a womb, has the eggs, all of that, has
all the equipment that a woman can become a man.
All that can go away, and you know suddenly she's got,
shall we say, the abolatical equipment of a man, skeletal

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structure of a man, and muscles will finally start forming
and you know all that that that's just not science.
That hasn't happened yet anyway, who knows one day, But
right now that's not science. I mean, you can have
a thousand surgeries and you will still have if you're

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a woman and you want to be a man or
vice versa, and you will still have the skeletal stuff
of what you were born. Now, I do know there
are birth the facts where people are born with both parts.
They got the equipment of both a man and a woman,
and might have the upper body structure of a woman,
lored body structure a man or vice versas. I mean,
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about someone who

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was born functionally, biologically functionally a male, a biologically functionally
a female. Yeah, that's what you're always going to be
on how many surgeries you have and how much stuff
you have cut off or added on or grafted on
or torn out or ripped out or put in or
inserted or whatever. There is there is yet a fully

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functioning biological man who can suddenly have you know, equipment
removed and maybe things drilled in and put in and
whatever they can. They could take a child to term.
That's just we're not there yet, and I don't know
we'll ever get there, to be honest, But these are
the same people that will scream about we've got to

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fall to science. Yeah, you're doing a great job of that. Uh.
There's also this from Los Angeles. Of course, all the
crazy stuff too coming out of LA these days. California,

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LA school district to ban fifth grade plays about US history.
Why because they're culturally insensitive. US history is apparently culturally
insensitive just by its nature. Okay, it's being imparted by
Marques Charter Joel Pollock, Breitbart News. The Los Angeles Unified
School District, also known as the LAUSD, is banning a

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celebrated series of fifth grade musical plays about American history
at a local charter school because the district says they
are culturally insensitive. Really, for only three decades, fifth graders
at Marques Center Elementary and Pacific Palisades, which has burned
up pretty bad with those fires, half perform musicals about

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crucial periods in the formation of the United States. These
include A Miracle in Philadelphia about the Constitional Convention, Hello
Louisiana about the Voyage and Journeys of Lewis and Clark,
and Water and Power about the Industrial Revolution. Fourth grade
play Gold Duster Buzz focuses on the history of California

(01:42:14):
the Gold Russian All app The musicals, co written by
Jeff Lantos with music composed by the late jazz pianist
Bill Augustine, are so successful in conveying historical details that
the Marquez students consistently score off the charts in history assessments.
They're doing good on the history tests, which is a
miracle for any student anyway, Could the usually find history
pretty boring? A two thousand and four academic study of

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the Marquez plays observes, quote students who attended Marquez Elementary
School scored more than twice as many items correctly on
the history test as did students from other schools. Now
local ABC affiliate KBC reported twenty fifteen that UCLA conducted
the study of the Marques students and their ability to
retain that historical knowledge. Researchers compared Latino's students to other

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students of similar socio economic backgrounds, of finding Latino students
did extraordinarily well and actually far out class the competition.
How about that Janette Mills was a Latino student twenty
years ago and now as a choreographer at UCLA, she
goes back to her alma mater to help teach the

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Latino students dance routines, et cetera. She said many of
their colleagues have chosen professions in the performing arts after
their experience with Lantos. A graph from UCLA study tells
a story from a stickular at all Performing History and
Evaluation of Music based American History curriculum, UCLA Psychology Department.

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Lantos was also nominated for a Tony Award for K
twelve education. Imagine that, a Tony Award Wow for K
twelve education. It was featured in a documentary. That's how
successful this was. They got a Tony Award for it
and it got documentary about it. After the school burned
down and the Palisades fire in January, the students were
able to perform on a stage. Fox Studios in West

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Los Angeles actually provided that, but now la USD wants
to ban the plays starting in the twenty twenty six
to seven twenty seven school year. Just officials have told
Marquess teachers in Lantost that the plays are not culturally
relevant and not appropriate material for fifth grade students. Why, well,
the community pushed back. School was told that it could

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keep only one play. Okay, well then you have one play,
which is Mickel in Philadelphia. But it was told it
had to change the text to be more politically correct.
So you're going to change the history. We're not going
to have the true history because it's just not politically correct.
So you're going to change the historical facts about the
Constitution being drafted and signed off on by the founding
follows in Philadelphia because we want to be politically correct,

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not a storically accer. That's what's importaners have these kids
hearing things are politically correct. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
hilding of all ages. These are the folks educating your kids.
And it's just this kind of crap isn't just happening
in Los Angeles. Some of this stuff is coming to
a community near you. Some of you either live in
fly over country or that stuff will never fly here.

(01:45:11):
Don't hold your breath, because these folks are permeating the
country with their garbage. Anyway, you get the picture, you
get the picture. So there's that there's that school board

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member had never heard of Charlie Kirk but now claims
he's a racist. Social media responded immediately with the unemployment line.
Way it's being imported about Bob underworld daily. There's a
schooboard member in Florida who claims to have heard of
Kirk only just the last couple of weeks, but he's
already solidified his opinion that Turning Point USA co founder

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was a racist bigot, and Turning Points just a bunch
of biggots too, and all that you know. Palmadge County
board member Edwin Ferguson was responding to an advisory from
state officials that teachers should not be celebrating the assassination
and should be and shouldn't be mocking those who expressed
support for Kirk's widow, Erica, and the couple's two small children.

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Ferguson lashed out comments that they made in regard to
a gentleman by the name of Charlie Kirk, who until
last week I knew nothing of. Unless you, as a parent,
or you as a teacher, feel bad because I, as
a teacher, don't miss a racist, a racist biggot at
that I don't see how you're going to be at
risk of losing your teaching certificate unquote. Social media responded

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with one writer explaining, I live in this country, and
as a taxpayer, I don't approve or appreciate my money
being used to fund his salary. I've already sent emails
Senator Rick Scott, Senator Ashley Moody, et cetera, even though
I'm not in his district to look into this matter immediately.

(01:47:07):
I mean, he has right his opinion, but how many
videos have you? Again, my challenge to this, to this
person would be, okay, it's probably become pably each county
board member, how many videos of his of you actually
sat down and watched? Or are you just parroting the

(01:47:28):
crap that's coming off of the Marxist, Socialist Nationalist Broadcasting
Collective and CNN and everything. See that's whats killing me.
So many people parroting nonsense from like occupied Democrats, from
uh all sorts of spurl of sources, including much of
the mainstinct media. They're just parroting stuff. Have never watched

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one single Turning Point video Charlie Kirk video, not one.
Let's seen something that's been added doctor to the hilt.
A reporter gate at the Gateway Pundin said that Ferguson
criticized the letter from the DOE warning teachers against mocking

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Charlie Kirk and compared Kirk to Adolf Hitler. Okay, well,
I haven't seen him in a brown shirt uniform. If
you if you have one that is an AI mock
up or some editor or something crazy, I'd like to
see it. If you have a video of him saluting
his own personal Nazi flag at the house with the kids,
uh and the wifey, I'd like to see that and

(01:48:34):
examiner for myself. But again, these are the kind of
ignoramuses and useful idiots, which is the kindest thing I
can say that the Marxist, communist and socialists are using
because they hate free speech. I understand something about this.
If you are a supporter of socialism, understand you are

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supporting or communism or extreme Marxism. You are supporting an
ideology that does not believe in freedom of speech, and
one day yours will be taken away by the same
folks that you supported if you're not careful, because it
will come back and bite you real hard and youn
aware the stuff will boomerang back on you. Garonteed scripture

(01:49:20):
says that God is not mocked. You will reap what
you sow. You sow to the flesh. You reap from
the flesh, you sow to the spirits, you reap from
the spirit. Some people call that karma. Call it whatever
you will, but there it is. The Orange Man said

(01:49:44):
this in front of the U n. Trump strongly defends
Christianity at UN, the most pershku religion on the plan today,
being reported by Rebecca Zelko TheBlaze dot com, the Trumps
you're dished distinguished in the United States from other countries
in the Nations, pointing to our willingness to defend Christianity
and protect our sovereignty. During his address to the UN,

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Trump highlighted the virtues of America ahead of the two
and fifteth anniversary of our countries independence on July fourth,
twenty twenty sixth at the bicse Scars Centennial. It will
be celebrating. Of course, we're already kind of into that
celebration right now. To be honest, one of the many
virtues from a point of two is American principles of
religious liberty, which protects Christianity, the most persecuted religion in

(01:50:26):
the world. In horror of this momentous antiverse, momentous and honor.
Rather should say, of this momentous anniversary, I hope that
all countries who find inspiration in our example will join
us renewing our commitment values and those values really that

(01:50:47):
we hold so dear. Then, let us defend free speech
and free expression. Let's protect religious liberty, including for the
most perskeuty religion on the planet today. It's called Christianity. Well,
it's pretty much there's been I've said, folks, there's pretty
much a on a side of sorts that's happened in
the Middle East, the birthplace, the cradle of Christianity originally,
and it's pretty much outlawed just about everywhere, or at

(01:51:10):
least tamp down on pretty hard just about everywhere except israel.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
I.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Let this safeguard our sovereignty and cherish qualities that have
made each of our nations so special, incredible, and extraordinary.
Also noted the success of his immigration policy and contrast
to mass immigration many of the Western countries have embraced, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,
but he stood up for the Christian faith. Say what

(01:51:37):
you want about the guy. There's a lot that can
be said pro and con, good and bad. But I
will tip my hat to him for at least admitting
the truth about what's happening with Christianity and standing up
for it. Of course, talks cheap, talks, very cheap. This

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is a big map of New Yorker who likes to
talk a lot. We'll see, but I will tip my
head to him on that. Russell Wilson opens up on
Giants team Bible studies as fellow Christian Jackson Dart takes
over QB duties And we'll play clip here for you in
just a seconds. We wrap up here. It's being reported
by Jackson Thompson Fox News. The Russell Wilson era maybe

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over for the New York Giants, but his impact on
the team's faithful culture may linger. Wilson as being a
bench by the Giants in favor of rookie quarterback Jackson
Dart this week for multiple reports similarly into Wilson's run,
It's a team starter after just three games. Wilson entered
his first season with New York with the mindset to
help the New York Giants win daily. He previously told

(01:52:45):
Fox's Digital Along the way, he also brought his faith
into the team's locker room New York Giants again. New
York Giants quarterback Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson of the New
York Giants, he told Fox News Digital ahead of the
season in July that he and his Giant teammates we're
having regular Bible studies. Quote, we have a lot of

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guys who are super strong on their faith. Well said,
we do have our Bible studies there. Let me make
sure this clip and he is. He is standing up
for his faith and trying to be a good influence
on others. He's not the first guy to do this,
won't be the last guy. But you know, a lot
of the NFL lifestyle, it's, you know, kind of the

(01:53:26):
rock and roll lifestyle, the parties, the strippers, the drugs,
the booze, you know, the infidelity on the wives and YadA, YadA, YadA,
the lavish lifestyles for some of the especially for some
of its bigger stars. We've all seen and heard the stories.
And some of these guys want to broke because they
blow all their their money on partying and you know,

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wine song and women let me let you hear the
clip here.

Speaker 17 (01:53:55):
As are super strong on their faith. You have a
lot of guys that you know, you know, you know,
we spend a lot of time together, you know, and
so I think a lot of it is every guy's different.
But I think what's important for us is, like I said,
the camaraderie we do have. We have our Bible studies
throughout the week and things that we do as a

(01:54:16):
collective group. I know every team does different things and
does a lot of that too, and so man, we
just we're just grateful we get to do what we
get to do. I'm grateful they get to be a
New York giant, and man, I thank God every day
for that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
He's grateful. He's grateful. Fact, he gave some thoughts on
Dart's ability compared to Wilson as a rookie. He's past
former veteran quarterback. I'm at Flynn of Seattle Seahawks to
win the starting gig his successor. Dart is also about Christian.

(01:54:56):
Dart is only the eleventh and Mormon quarterback in NFL
history in a devout member of the Church of Jesus
Christ are alaradies sayings. Now I don't know what something
just suddenly went. Wait a minute, I know, I get it.
But nevertheless, he's bringing a I'm talking about Russell Wilson

(01:55:18):
bringing a Christian influence there into the end of the
locker room. Wilson signed a one year, twenty one million
dollar contract with the team in the off season, while
Dart was selected by the team with the twenty fifth
overall pick in the NFL Draft after traded up to
the first round to get the quarterback. But hopefully the

(01:55:39):
real Jesus Christ will will prevail in that locker room,
and I think he will. There's you know, it's the
NFL is well, you get young men, harmones racing late teens,
early twenties environment where's a lot of money thrown at them,

(01:56:02):
a lot of praise and temptations there. You know, some
of these guys are making more money they've ever heard of,
and you know, getting scholarships for college and so forth,
a gig degree. So think I get nice jobs once
the NFL thing's over with, because you know, your body's
pretty much beat up after ten years. Most of these

(01:56:23):
guys are eight, nine, ten, eleven years. Most of these
guys are spent. They're done their bodies are just too
beat up, and you know they got to stop. Some
keep going on in their forties. We've seen that. But
those are the exceptions, not the rules. Most of these
guys barely thirties are gone. Tell me hit about thirty
thirty one through too. It's like, you know, your second string,
third string, you're a bench warmer. You're just there to
kind of, you know, fill in space, maybe maybe go
in for one or two plays during the game, and

(01:56:44):
then that's it, and you're just kind of sitting there
looking around and thinking about your retirement. And if you've
played your cards right, you put some money in the
bank and puts you know, got some investments, and you've
got life after NFL if you've played, if you've again
gotten hold of an accountant and maybe an attorney to
help you play in your future. And they're checking in

(01:57:06):
with the Lord himself. But a lot of these guys aren't.
That's the sad part. And so they wind up, you know,
a bunch of money up front and then broke, you know,
and they're out doing used car commercials, wearing their old
uniform to make a few bucks and stay out of
the poorhouse. I mean, It's sad. We see it happen
all the time, but these guys are used up a
spit out. Uh. So I hope that that more Christian

(01:57:29):
leaders come into the into the league and help these
young men out, help them keep their their heads on
straight and point them to the person of Jesus Christ.
I have had the pleasure of interviewing over the years

(01:57:51):
at various radio stations so forth, I've worked at or
I've had the pleasure of interviewing former NFL players, which
these guys are huge. You're just like, good gosh, I
hate to see this guy running at me down. You know,
this guy's about six eight six'. Nine it's brought across
as my. Refrigerator could probably just lift up my refrigerator
with one arm fully. Loaded talk about. Refrigerator hate see

(01:58:14):
that coming at. Me. Uh but these guys are you,
know they're they're like gentle. GIANTS i, mean the ones
that Are. Christians you, know they'll talk about their faith
and talk about their love with The lord and and
all of that kind of reminds you probably like a
guy similar to probably what the Apostle peter was or.
Something you, know he was probably a stout, dude and
for his time a rough around the edge of. Fishermen

(01:58:36):
but look what he, did AND i prayed for. IT i,
mean let's just face, it young. Men and you, know
the young men are, hearing, well you've got toxic, masculinity
you've got test tas from. Poisoning you're you're poisoning from
the start with your test tas. Run you're, this and you're,
that and blah blah. Blah but some of these same

(01:58:59):
big mouth, gals when they're broke down the side of the,
road who do they want stopping to fix their? Car
who do they want stopping to fix their flat? Tire
one of these, guys you, know they want a man's.
Man they want a guy with a little dirt under
his nails who can get that flat tire fixed for

(01:59:21):
him and get him on their. Way then suddenly they
want a, big tough, guy you. See and society has
pounded men down for a long time in recent, years
especially young. Men young men are just they're kind of,
retless just kind of like, well you, know and they

(01:59:43):
don't know what to, think what to, be what to,
do where to, go what's happening because they're not getting
much leadership a lot of times dad's not, there a
lot of appsent, dads a lot of broken. Families the
mom's having to be the dad and the, mom you,
know and a mom can't be both the dad and a,
mom not all the time, anyway except just being one

(02:00:03):
or the. Other but that's the reality of the brokenness
and broken families that so many and are so many
young men in our nation are coming, from and women as.
WELL i, Mean i'm not just you, know singling out
the guys. Here young women. Are you, know they got
a lot of stuff coming at him, too from fashion,
magazines from. Media you got to look a certain, way
act a certain, way be a certain. Way you can't

(02:00:26):
weigh more than one hundred, pounds or you, know you're too.
Fat you young ladies get a lot thrown at him as,
well a lot of garbage, too by the, medium by.
Society and they need the, truth which is going to
be found in, scripture which is going to be found
in a relationship With. CHRIST i, KNOW i Know i'm
preaching it the choir to some extent BECAUSE i don't
have non believers that listen to the show as. Well and that's.

(02:00:47):
Fine everybody's welcome to listening to here what you. ARE
i Guess i'm sort of Like Charlie kirkin that aspect
that you, know all are welcome.

Speaker 6 (02:00:56):
To.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
Listen BUT I i have been doing this a. While
i've been seeing the trend, lines and it's getting tough
on younger. Folks it's getting tough on young men as.
Well they're, rudderless they're, confused they're getting miss mixed messages from.
Society they're being told they're responsible for all the ills

(02:01:19):
of the, world that they're somehow lesser than that THEY'RE i,
mean it's sort of like a reverse. Misogyny it's a
they're they're being told that they're they're they're, TOXIC i
mean total they need to act more like, women unless like.
Men in some, cases it's it's it's, sad it's. Sad

(02:01:46):
BUT i think if we can point these young men
To christ and scripture and, Disciple jesus didn't say to
go out and make. Converts you said to go out
and make. Disciples that means you got to kind of
live with folks a. Bit that means you kind of
got to get to know, them rubbish. Them that doesn't
mean you indulge in their sinful. ACTIVITIES i, mean he
was hanging out with the drunks and the thieves and the,

(02:02:07):
process but he wasn't endorsing what they were. Doing he
was trying to show him a better. Way but he was,
nevertheless you, know amongst, them talking to, them reasoning with,
them loving on, them having a meal with, them, whatever
and getting to know, them and setting an example to
the disciples here's how you do. It and they changed the.

(02:02:30):
World these twelve young men change the world That jesus
dealt with that was just twelve. Guys now we have
A jesus that can deal with millions of guys and
turn them loose on the. World can you imagine how
the world can be and, women young women as, well
and there were women disciples as, Well but just, think

(02:02:55):
just think how the world could be changed dramatically with
a with a few one hundred, thousand a few, million
maybe young men on fire For jesus and young women
on fire For, jesus just Total jesus, freaks if you.

(02:03:18):
Will i'm saying that good in a good. Sense. MAN
i don't know that we have seen that. Yet, maybe
BUT i don't know that we've seen. That we may be,
because LIKE i said in intimated last week on this,
BROADCAST i believe we are in the uh what some
have classified the third grade. AWAKENING i believe we're. THERE

(02:03:40):
i believe that we have gone up a gear shift or.
Two there's still more to. COME. Uh it's a. Process
revival is a, process AND i don't and AGAIN i
really hesitate to use the word revival BECAUSE i think it's.
INADEQUATE i think we're in a, way we're in an
awakening that is growing and. Building like a, title tyle

(02:04:00):
waves start out as a, ripple then they grow and
grow and grow as they continue on and get some
distance and take some, time but they begin to grow
and grow and grow until they're, ginormous you, know twenty
five to fifty foot or, whatever tidle. Wave AND i
think that's where we're. At we're still in that growing,
phase but we're. Growing and perhaps that growth here because

(02:04:23):
of recent, events has perhaps accelerated. SOME i don't think
that may be the, case but there's still more growth
and they're still more accelerating to. Happen not quite there,
yet but it is growing and, building AND i think
we're seeing that in our. Nation AND i think we're
singing around the. World i'm praying for. It i'm seeing the.
Signs i've been watching this stuff for a. While i've

(02:04:44):
been talking about it on the show off and off
for a pretty long. Time please go back and listen to,
archives but very consistent on this and a lot of
it is going to happen outside of the four walls
of ye old church building and churches better get, ready
you better get ready to toss some of your traditions
and your methods of doing things that are not necessarily

(02:05:06):
grounded in. Scripture well it's, right art knowlage are done
it for the past five hundred. Years, okay that's. Great,
well if it's not something that scripture, requires it's just
a tradition of, man it's just your denominational, tradition consider
maybe disposing of, it because traditions are. Disposable orthodoxy essentials
of the faith are not those you must adhere to

(02:05:28):
for dear, life but certain traditions in certain ways that,
well this has just come from our order home relation
those because you, know, well, no you can't really fund The,
bible but you, know it's just the way we've kind
of done, it just the way we've sort of feeled
The lord of. Leaders, okay we'll be open to, him
maybe leading you another direction. Now and some people confuse
tradition with. Orthodoxy they are not necessarily always one on the.

(02:05:51):
Same so be prepared to be stretched a, bit is
What i'm, saying by The, lord and taking out of
your comfort, zone Because i've got a strong, hunch a
strong sense in my heart and my spirit which is usually,
right that a lot of what you're going to see
is going to happen way outside the four walls of

(02:06:14):
any church building of what's. Coming And Charlie, kirk for,
example IF i might use him as an, example wasn't
going out and were taking people and grabbing them back
and grabbing them and shoving him in a church building,
somewhere his own church. Building he was reaching them where
they were. At he was going out into byways and.
Byways he was going out into the into the universities

(02:06:36):
and the places where these university students and kids were
hanging out and talking to them on their. Level all,
right he went. Out My bible says to go out
and make disciples of all men and, women of, course
but it's an outward. Thrust it it's not going drag.
Back it's outward. Thrust, now, yes there is a place

(02:06:58):
for a church, fellowship AND i believe that's going to
probably be in the. Homes for whatever. REASONS i think
we're moving out of the buildings and into the smaller
monument groups in the. HOMES i believe that is the
trend line of the of the. Future AND i think
where The lord's heart is and where we're. Moving it
could be. WRONG i kind of doubt, it and that

(02:07:22):
challenges a lot of ways of doing, church and we've
got to be opened for the different ways of doing.
Church they're probably actually more biblical in the end. ANYWAY i,
mean the Early church wasn't meeting in big buildings with
a failing symbol on top of. It they were you,
know they tried meeting in the temple for a, While
like how that worked. Out they got run out so

(02:07:43):
that it says in the in The book Of acts
that they went from house to, house not church house to, church,
house house to, house, fellowshipping breaking, bread et, cetera et.
Cetera and even many, years many decades after the establishment
of the, church you still See paul writing letters to
the church and so and so's home they were still

(02:08:06):
meeting that they were still meeting at. Homes well they
just hadn't gotten organized, yet you. Know and, well, okay
but maybe that wasn't what was supposed to ever happen,
ANYHOW i don't. Know So i'm. Saying What i'm saying
is is that we've got to get back to intimacy in,
fellowship which is pretty hard to do in a, big
mega church facility with five thousand. People and then when

(02:08:30):
the servants, over they're all knocking each other down and
running each other trying to not have fender benders in
the parking, lot trying to run to the buffet down
the road right On sunday. MORNING i, mean let's be,
honest there's got to be place positioned in a room
for intimate small. Fellowships AND i don't mean just Some
bible study group with a with a workbook and a.

(02:08:53):
VIDEO i, mean that's okay, too there's a place with,
THAT i, guess BUT i mean where you're just sitting
there with Your bibles and what's going, on and people
are honest and, tall and The Holy spirit moves in
ways aren't necessarily scripted or simply jumping out of a work,
book but where there's real intimate fellowship and people are

(02:09:13):
really talking about what the texts going on in a safe,
environment and where what's talked about their stays, there not,
gossip because that's kind of how the Early church did.
It from What i'm looking, At i'm not saying we
need to run around the ropes and, sandals BUT i
am saying that we need to look at the model in.
Scripture there IS i believe a template that has gotten

(02:09:34):
tossed out the window for whatever, reasons, tradition sake of,
expediency hard to make money that, way, Whatever but that's
what we've got to get back to intimate, fellowship, coynania,
fellowship brotherly, love because without, it this isn't gonna. WORK

(02:09:57):
i don't care how big of a revival or awakening we.
Have jesus, said you can't take, Uh you've got to
Put you've got to put new wine in the new wine,
scans because you put the new wine in the old wine.
Skins at, leaks they're, leaky and let's face, it churches are,
leaky denominations are. Leaky people are leaving, them some cases fleeing.
Them so we've got to be ready. ANYWAY i think

(02:10:22):
that's about ALL i need to. Say call it, today
call it a. Show We sure check out the Websites
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care of, yourselves take care of those which you, love

(02:10:43):
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