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October 15, 2025 115 mins
On today's show, LIVE on https://zeno.fm/radio/thunderous-radio/ 3:06 pm CT, 4:06 pm ET: Palestinian/Israeli Peace Deal...Sort Of: Trump threatens Hamas if they don't dis-arm - IDF claims one of the bodies returned by Hamas Terrorists is NOT a hostage - 'Terror hasn't stopped' as gruesome video shows Hamas publicly executing Palestinian civilians, as healthy Gaza children dance in streets - Islamic radicals say they plan more terror against Israel AFTER ceasefire - Pro-Palestine activists in U.S. hammered for vanishing after Trump gives them what they want with Mideast peace - Christians in Gaza breathe sigh of relief after Trump peace deal - we'll analyze. Borderline: DHS releases zero undocumented migrants into U.S. for fifth consecutive month - White House reveals illegal migrants received Medicaid as shutdown over healthcare drags on - Treasury head Bessent claims shutdown costing US economy $15B a day - we'll explore. Plus, Is identity politics a road to ruin? - Survey of 80% of employees report toxic work environments and affecting overall mental health. And, Forrest Frank pushes back at Jelly Roll over controversial debate on music, money and faith. http://www.spreaker.com/show/christian-talk-that-rocks https://christiantalkthatrocks.net or http://christiantalkthatrocks.com #Palestine #Israel #Trump #peacedeal #Hamas #hostages #governmentshutdown #medicaid #GazaChristians #ForrestFrank #identitypolitics
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him built. Me running my big mouth, all right, which
is what talk show guys do, right. A peace deal

(02:41):
in the middle East Abraham Lincoln had a old Abe Lincoln.
By the way, there's a for Civil War buffs, which
you're not supposed to talk about. Three things you're not
supposed to ever talk about, according to my grandfather, religion, politics,
and the Civil War. I talk about all three on
this show, but there for the Civil War buff they're
filming as we speak, pretty cool looking movie. I've seen

(03:04):
that some of the dailies from it up in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania,
actually in Gettysburg, not a Hollywood set, but of course
they've kind of had to fix things up a little
bit and put dirt on the street, which I'm sure
they've had to cut off certain sections of the town
of getty there's small town, but had to cut off
certain sections of the streets and put in dirt, and

(03:25):
you know, there's horses, which of course you know what
that means on some of the streets. Be careful where
you walk right or drive. But they're putting up with
a new film being made there and it's about pretty
much it revolves around Lincoln and the Gettysburg address and
one family's particular experience during the battle and during they're

(03:46):
filming some battle scenes in the town because the troops
did run through the town to get to where they
wanted to get, both the ReBs and the Yanks. But
they've been doing a lot of filming there. It looks
pretty cool. They've got a guy playing Lincoln. That's the
boy A did Ringer. Looks just like it. Man, I
don't know how much makeup, and I don't know if
they're using like the stuff that they straight this kind

(04:07):
of face stuff that's kind of rubbery that they put
on your face to kind of make make you look
a certain way. They can peel it off though at
the end of the day. But can you imagine having
to go through that look like old Dave Lincoln. But
the guy looks I mean, it looks like most of
it's pretty naturally. Guy looks a lot like him, so
tall and skinny and all that. So that's going on
right now.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
But A B.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Lincoln had a he had a little saying it makes
a lot of sense. He said, you know that. He
said that the hen is the wisest animal of the barnyard,
the farmyard because she doesn't make any noise or cackle

(04:48):
until the egg is laid. And typically that's true. Hens
get real quiet usually before they lay an egg. Uh,
he as a and they've been laid in the Middle East.
I don't know. You know, we're we're talking a lot
about this Middle East peace deal. And maybe if I think,

(05:09):
if we're lucky, maybe cause you know me, I'm king
of the skeptics, maybe we'll have some breathing room here.
Maybe there'll be a little bit of a lull uh
in the in the craziness. I have my doubts as
to how long that will last. It will eventually be broken.
That's the look that scripture. There's not going to be

(05:31):
full peace in the Middle East, and even then in
the Lower the last one thousand years, and that's when
Jesus returns. You'll have a thousand years a piece. And
then read a book Revelation says well that for a
small period of time, Satan will be unleashed from the
bottomless pit. Uh. He'll be brought up, I'm sure, smoke
smoke rolling off his back, and then he'll uh he won't,

(05:52):
he won't have learned his lesson. He will go back
to his mischief and try to get people to attack
Jerusalem again and Jesus and all that, and then Jesus
goes stretches, and yours goes really and then you know,
Nukesam and everybody else, so to speak, and he goes
right back in the pit. And that's the end of that.
So we know how the book ends. But there will

(06:13):
not be a full peace, or at least long, long, long,
long term piece anyway in the Middle East until Jesus returns,
all right, And to some extent, this is sort of
a family feud that's been going on for a long
time that you can trace back to Abraham, you can
trace back to Isaac and Ishmael and all that and
their descendants more or less. So when cousin Jesus returns,

(06:37):
that's when the family feud will be over, at at
least for a thousand years. But until then it's going
to be it's gonna be up and down. I mean,
that's just that's the Bible. I'm not trying to be
a pessimist and bring everybody down. It's just your Bible.
That's what it says, basically. And there will be a
false piece when the Antichrist hits the scene. And no,
I don't think Jared Kushner is the Antichrist, nor do

(06:57):
I think Trump is the Antichrist, and a lot of
people think he one or the other is I don't
think so. But there won't be a lasting piece until again,
until Cross returns. But there will be now that anty
Christ will sort of have a false piece of sorts
or a limited piece or you know, it's gonna have

(07:18):
a window on it, but it won't be a real piece.
And then things are gonna blow up. All be to
the point of the Battle of Armageddon. Uh. And if
to hype that battle, when the blood's up to the
horse's bridal. According to scripture, that's about the point that
Jesus returns with the armies of Heaven, and we I
believe will be a part of that in the angels
and so forth, and he'll be riding a horse. I'm

(07:41):
gonna be riding a t rex. I've asked the Lord
that when I go to when I go to Heaven,
can I please have a pet tea rex. It's nice.
It's not you know, snipping and biting people, but a nice,
you know, attained, attained t rex. I want one. I
know it's weird, but I want one. I don't know
that I'm going to get one. He might, I'd say,
you know what. There are some limitations. But anyway, so

(08:06):
we know that there's not going to be a full
piece till then, right, Okay, so any crisis is going
to do a false piece. Now with what Donald Trump
has negotiated, how long will it last? I don't know, again,
King of the skeptics, I hope it lasts a good while. Now,
if you read Ezekiel thirty eight, there is going to
be there will be a period of peace, at least

(08:29):
as far as Israel's concern. Now there may be some
other things going on with other countries, but at least
as far as Israel is concerned. You see in Ezekiel
thirty eight, right before the Gog Magog war opens up,
or let's just say before it, Russia, Syria, Iraq and
Turkey and some other folks decide they're going to come
into Israel and invaded the Ezekl thirty eight war, which

(08:51):
I believe is a pre trib war. And some of
you hearing my voice may live long enough and meet
too for that matter to actually see it it. Maybe
a few years down the road. I don't know when
there's going to be this coalition, all those all those nations.
I just rattled off for chummy and started getting chummy
just a handful of decades ago, in a real chummy
right now, and really don't like Israel. Okay, all those

(09:13):
nations I just rattled off the hate Israel, and they
would love to see Israel off the map. Well, ins
far as the Jewish people are concerned in the nation
of Israel. But there's going to be that war. But
the Israel is portrayed is pretty much Scripture speaks of
unwalled cities. Scripture speaks of you know, a pleasant land,

(09:36):
et cetera, et cetera. That's not Israel right now. Israel's
you know, fid apache basically it has been for well
almost since its inception. But it shows the time which
has got to be in the future, probably not too
far in the future, but probably several years down the
road where Israel relaxes its posture. Okay, and apparently it's

(09:59):
not at war with anybody. Is this the beginning of that?
I hope so. But I gotta be honest with you.
I've got my skepticisms, I really do, and I want
to share with you why, just based on some things
that are just as still going on, and just have
started erupting in the past day or two. Okay that
I'm not sure Hamas is really sincere about this. I

(10:23):
hope they are, But again, can you trust a terrorist?
And Israel's policy has been and kind of ours too
in recent decades, is you can't trust terrorists Hamas who
runs the Gaza strip and all the Palestinian stuff. While
they're terrorists, they are a terrorist organization as designated by
US and several of our allies and Israel and et cetera,

(10:46):
et cetera. We've pretty much took the tack that probably
the only good terrorist is a dead one, or maybe
one in President Gitmo. That's pretty much been our attacked,
at least up till now. So I don't know, a
lot of accolades are being late at the at the
on the on the Orange Man for having negotiated to

(11:07):
peace till and and they're deserved. But how long is
this thing going to lae? Again? Jared Kirshno is right
in there. But how long are these things going to last?
How long is this thing gonna last? I don't know.
I'm I again me, I pray and hope it's a
good long while. But me being king of the skeptics
I don't know, and me knowing my Bible pretty well,
uh not so sure. There will come a time when

(11:29):
there will be a period of peace, pre pre tribulation,
because I'm in terms of Israel. Maybe not in the
entire Middle East, but at least in terms of Israel.
It appears that Israel is going to be sitting pretty
right before the Gogmagog war hits. Now, there is another
Gogmagog war that's in Revelation that that that happens when

(11:50):
Satan is released and then he comes and tries to
attack Jerusalem and and Jesus himself. Okay, I'm not talking
about that. There's two gog Magog wars. That's where it
confuses a lot of people. There's one in Revelation at
the end of the thousand year period of Jesus's reign,
right towards the end of that reign, Okay, when he
comes back to tak an earthly throne, which technically would

(12:12):
be the throne of David. But there is a war
that takes place prior to that, okay. And I mentioned
nothing about Jesus, you know, hanging out in Jerusalem at
that time. This is this is a different So it's
two different gogmagog wars. Okay, But the definition of insanity
is doing the same thing over and over again hoping

(12:32):
that next time you get different results. So Satan will
try another gog magog war and uh and it won't
work either, because he's insane, all right. But he's he's
completely lost his mind in some ways, because when you
when you're eat up with that much deception, Jesus said,
there's there's you know, no iota of truth within him.
Some of your translations say, but there's there's there's no

(12:53):
truth in him. So a scripture tells us he's a
he's a complete rejector of the truth. He's eat up
with deception, if you want to put it in the terms.
And usually when people get to that point, or anybody
gets to that point, yeah, you've popped your cork in
your brain. So he is he will try this twice.
I guess you could say, but this this gog magog war,

(13:14):
or or these equal thirty eight war as some people nickname,
it does show a moment of time, and we don't
know how many years could be five, ten, fifteen, twenty
years when everything's pretty cool with Israel and her neighbors. Now,
though some of those neighbors may be finding each other,
but as far as she's concerned, she's out of the mix.
Is just the beginning of that. I don't know. I
hope and pray that it is. It may not be.

(13:38):
My skepticism is well, maybe maybe not. And I'm gonna
get into that. We're gonna go to break. But I'm
gonna share with you some reasons as to why I
have my doubts. But I and I hope I'm wrong.
I really do hope I'm wrong. I'm hoping and praying
that this one will last a certain stretch of time,

(13:58):
although knowing how the book ends, yeah, it's not gonna
be permanent. But it's funny even a temporary piece. Some
of Trump's detractors won't even give him credit for that.
I saw I saw an article where one of one

(14:21):
of Biden's guys is saying, no, it's myself and Biden.
We're the one that got this thing going. Really.

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and wash my face every day and shave and all that.
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So you know, don't go there. Well, let me just
dive into this because, uh, here's what here's some of
what's going on and what people are saying and what's
and what's happening and going down. So there's some details

(16:43):
of this particular piece deal quote unquote we'll put that
in quotation marks where they're supposed to return all of
the hostages, even the dead ones. Here's what the IDF
is saying. In fact, I have claims one of the
bodies returned by hamas Terrace is not even a even
a hostage. It's being reported by Simon Kentbrybart dot com.

(17:04):
I was getting off a good start vehicles transporting the
bodies of four hostages handed over the following a ceasefire.
One of the bodies handed over by hamas Terrace is
part of the middle East ceasefire when they were bringing
these vehicles over to the you know the little line there,
I guess is not one of the hostages who was
held in Gaza, Israeli military said today Wednesday, Hamage is

(17:28):
required for this deal to return all forty eight remaining
hostages as part of the first phase of the Sweeping
Guy's a peace plan as negotiated by the Trumpster. So far,
all twenty living hostages and seven hostage bodies have been
repatriated for burial. AP's now reporting that three other bodies

(17:51):
handed over Tuesday night are named as I'm going to
probably mess these up, but Tamir Nimrodi Levi and Yurio Baruk. However,
one has been confirmed as not to have been amongst
the hostages held by Hamas. In fact, Idea says this

(18:13):
is following examinations at the National Institute of Forensic Medicine
in all Israeli waits to return of the bodies of
twenty eight deceased hostages. So they just kind of figured out, well,
who know, here's a dead body. Throw this one in.
So they're already, you know, not off to such a
hot start, all right, let's go there already I mean,

(18:35):
somebody minds, Wow, maybe it's an honest mistake. Maybe I
kind of leaned against that. Again, this is hamas a
terrorist organization, and they're still running things, by the way,
you know, they haven't surrendered, they haven't put down their weapons.
They're still kind of doing their thing a little bit now.
They're not lobbing bombs at the moment in Disrahel. They're

(18:56):
not taking potshots as far as I've heard, is of
the opening of the microphone on the show at Israeli's
or ietyf personnel or whatever yet And I hope they don't.
But yeah, this is kind of not getting off to
a good start already, okay, and it makes you wonder,

(19:21):
you know, what else is up again? Is this a
peace dealer or deal with the devil? And I don't know.
It's yet to see. And I'm not trying to take
anything away from the Orange Man here, but I'm just saying,
having watched this stuff for many years, talked about it
on this show for a little while and other shows,

(19:43):
and I've been in talk radio for a little while,
I can tell you that again, me being king of
the skeptics, I'm kind of taking away and see attitude.
I hope and I pray that this may last a
number of years. I know it's gonna last wherever, but
that it may give everybody a breather for a while.

(20:07):
But again, knowing the track record of these folks, I'm
just not holding my breath. I'm really not, and I
hate to be a dandy downer here on this thing,
but you know, again, I'm taking it with a grain
of salt. I hope, I really really hope this is

(20:33):
what kind of bugs me. Terror hasn't stopped grooesome video
shows some Moss publicly executing Palestinian civilians as healthy gods
a children because you know, we were en showing the
videos of of emaciated kids and so forth, as healthy
guys that children dance in the streets. Certainly they got
real healthy. It's being parted by Joe Kovacs World End Daily.

(20:57):
The problem is maybe the majority of Palestini is actually
deuceport of Moss. I mean, if they do well. And
members of the Islamic terror group Moas publicly executed their enemies.
This was this Monday. This was just on Monday, just
as the Orange Man was signing the Midi's peace deal.
This week it's carrying the release of all living hostages.
Old by a Mosas lomic terror group was posting graphic

(21:19):
videos of its members publicly executing Palestine civilians it called
criminals and collaborators with Israel. Gruesome action came just hours
after Trump voiced the end of an age of terror
and death. Well maybe not in can a document with
his twenty point piece plan.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
Now.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
This horrific clip, which is circular of the Internet, shows
eight beaten and blindfolded men on their knees before they're
all shot on the street as the crowd cheers and
children dance. Yeah that's right.

Speaker 8 (21:57):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
And the problem is, you know this is in fact.
Let I'm gonna let you hear. This is from an
influencer conservative commentator, Avery Day. I don't agree with everything
she says, but she's right on this one. I think
she said, I thought we were all about the wellness
and the safety of Palestinians. Look at Hamas. Terror hasn't
stopped on a plaid cliff from her in a moment.

(22:22):
But the Swedish journalist Peter Emmanuelsson noted that Hamas is
now public x uting Savians and Gaza well, Gaza, well,
will Greta Thunberg organized protests against this. Don't hold your breath.
In fact, on Tuesday, Trump or money, every one of
the bodies of deceased sassages have still not been returned,

(22:44):
he said, quote a big burden has been lifted with
the job is not done. The dead have not been
returned as promised. Phase two begins right now. So he
was posting that on I think it was true social
But let me let you hear from this from Avery
Day and again she's kind of a conservative influencer, if
you will, commentator on this is off of her ex account.

(23:11):
The things she does podcast we want to call it.
I'll let you hear a clip from her, and you know,
she makes some pretty good points. And again she sounds
about as skeptical as yours truly on some of this. Again,
not trying to take this and this or anything away
from the Orange Man, but you know, peace deal maybe,
I don't know. We'll see.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
This every day, barrel may free Palestine people at because
this is some moss today killing innocent Palestinians in the streets,
literally just lining them up in the street and then
killing them. And then you see all the Palestinians around
cheering for a public execution and death. I thought we
were all about like the wellness and the safety of Palestinians,

(24:00):
because look at Hamas's terror, hasn't it hasn't stopped Israel's
out But but Hamas's terror hasn't stopped and you can
watch the full video on x they do in fact them.
It's horrible, it is awful. This information is free to you.
Oh yeah, we're all about I'm all about free Palestine

(24:21):
from Hamas. The problem is the majority of Palestinians actually
do support Hamas and support this kind of terror because
they love death as much as the Jews love life.
They tell us that over and over and over again. Also,
I think they've forgotten to keep continuing to push the

(24:43):
narrative because they are now posting videos of very healthy
children that do not look like they have been through agenified.
They have new clothes on, they look they look very
well nourished. And yeah, that whole narrative is just seem
to go out of the window.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Now.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
Wow, it's crazy how that works, especially because this video
was literally taken this week of the children celebrating the
Seas fire. I don't see a starving child the suffering
child in sight. Pretty i'd aska that where the free
Pali people are. But I know that they are out
protesting the seas fire that they just spent the last

(25:26):
two years fighting for.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, well some of them are out press some of
them are not. Some of the some of these protesters
have sort of vanished all of a sudden, like they
what what they've been screaming for? Some of what they've
been screaming for? They I mean, if this all works out,
they're kind of going to get where are they? Well,
i'll see the Orange man did it so that you know,

(25:55):
can'y of that. But let's go to break. I've gotten more,
always more. Of course, someone's not like chronicles say they
plan moretarr against Israel after after the ceasefire. Take a
little break. You know they're gonna take a little break,
do their thing, and then come back for more. Apparently,

(26:16):
let's just take a part taking breaks, taking a break. Here,
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Speaker 3 (27:43):
So there are some Islamic radicals that say no, no, no,
not so fast. They plan more terror against Israel after
this ceasefire. That's bring to put a by world in
that daily he said, yeah, they have no intention of
laying down their arms. The Trumpster said you better or else.
Major Mileson, of course, has reached Monday in the campaign

(28:03):
for peace in the Middle East, specifically between Israel and
the terrorists of Hamas or the Hamas terras. Let's put
it that way. Who attacked the democratic nation in twenty
twenty three, starting twelve hundred and kidnapping hundreds more. The
last twenty living hostages were released by Hamas. It came
as part of a multipoint plan developed under the administration
of President Donald Trump that called for the release of hostages.

(28:25):
Feature points will set up a governing organization to make
the decisions for Gaza, where Amas has ruled for recent years. Well,
I'm not sure how well that's gonna work, but we'll see.
Trump and addressing Israel' kannescent on the agreement between Israel
and Hamas, pointed out that previous American administrations under Barack
Obama and Joe Biden failed in pursuit of that very goal,

(28:46):
although one of Joe's guys said, no, we actually, we
actually did this thing. No Jonald Truman anything to do
with it. All the countries in the Middle East that
could have, they could have what we're doing now. It
could have happened a long time ago, but it was
strangled and set back, almost irretrievably by the administrations of

(29:07):
Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Trump said, citing the then
hatred towards Israel, we had a very weak bideen administration,
worst president the history of our country. Blah blah blah blah.
Violence every may not be gone forever because previous peace
pauses often have been broken up by violence of the Islamis,
and some of those groups issued a warning even as
a peace dealers began to take effect. We've seen this
time and time again. Speaking of the definition of insanity,

(29:31):
how many times have we seen a ceasefire, a peace
deal being broken, and then here come the rockets. The
rockets red glare from some direction right into Israel. Right
quote faction stress that they have no intention of laying
down their weapons and that they planned a continu military
activity to achieve their objectives. Explaining the report at the

(29:51):
Middle East Media Research Institute, standing from various factions said,
at this decisive historic moment, we reiterate and emphasize our
lower to the martyrs and prisoners, to the wounded, and
to the resistance fighters and our adherents, to our people's
rights of their land, homeland, holy sites, and dignity. We
also emphasize our determination to continue with the resistance in

(30:16):
all of its forms until our rights are achieved, first
and foremost, the removal of the occupation. They actually know
jew ever lived there, ever, self determination and the establishment
of an independent state with full sovereignty with Jerusalem as
its capital. It's important to note an historic fact that

(30:38):
in nineteen forty eight, when Israel was officially set up
as a state, there were Jews already living there. It
had been living there since you know, I don't know,
since probably fifteen hundred BC. They're not occupiers, they've been
there all along. Okay. So some idea that they just

(30:58):
suddenly all got on a big boat or lanes from
from former Nazi Europe and just landed in Israel one day,
that's a myth, all right, that is hogwash. Yes, man,
he did start flowing in, that's true. But they were
already there. There was, there was, There was a Jewish
population already there. It's historically verifiable. Don't take my word

(31:19):
for it. Go do your own homework, please. So this
idea that suddenly Jews just popped up out of nowhere, uh,
is a complete it's a forest. But there are young
heads of mush on college campuses. But believe that that's
not the case. Well, you know, they probably flunk history

(31:40):
in high school and don't care for it in college,
and they're taking you know, uh, some kind of soft
courses macrimae and polysci and uh, you know who knows,
and taking the nice soft courses living off the parents'
credit card while they uh act like self rights or

(32:03):
social justice warrior, sleeping in tents on college campuses and
skipping classes and getting high and smoking good weed and
screaming about the river to the sea. You see so
useful idiots, and the terrorists love useful idiots. And we've
got plenty of them on our college campuses, sadly, heavily populated, sadly.
And I feel bad for I really feel bad. Here's

(32:24):
what I really feel bad for in those scenarios, as
the parents who are paying out the wing wang for
little junior insists to skip classes and hang out with
idiots and smoke weed and act like and pump their
fists in there and think they're really changing the world. Well,
what they really need is if that's if you know,
if you don't want to take college seriously, fine go

(32:45):
get it, Go get a gig. They are hiring at
McDonald's last I checked. Would you like catch up with
those fries, ma'am instead of shouting river to the sea anyway,
I digress. Uh. They also rejected Forward in guardianship of
the Gaza Strip and the Man to be part of
the region's administrations and It was identified as coming from

(33:06):
Hamas Palesine Islami Chiha, the Popular Front for the Liberation
uh Palestine. This thing I just read. So anyway, uh yeah,
when these people speak, believe what they're saying. I mean,
that's the a tact I have had, is when when
when terrorist organizations start posting stuff online or saying things,
I tend to believe what they're saying. I mean in

(33:27):
terms of making the threats that they're gonna make, not
not their propaganda that they throw out there in false
pictures and there, you know, doctor de pictures whatever, which
you're getting pretty good at. But when they say things
of that nature, I kind of go, yeah, I'm okay,
you're probably right, You'll probably be right. So yeah, they

(33:48):
might hang low for a few weeks, a few days,
a few months, I don't know, but when will you know?
Part of me is like, well, when weere the rockets
start flying again?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Now, the Trump sure has made it awful darn clear
that they better behavior else. So this, you know, even
he's recognizing that, you know, maybe maybe not speaking. Reported
by Newsmax, Trump says Hamas must disarm or be disarmed,
perhaps violently, oh oh, so much for your peace right.
President Donald Trump made it clear on Tuesday that he

(34:22):
had communicated to Amas that the military group must disarmor,
will be forced to Okay, on Monday. You know, Hamas
read the last living is really hostage from Gaza. If
they don't disarm, he said, we will disarm them, and
it will happen quickly and perhaps violently, Trump said during
a meeting at the White House with Argentine President Javier Malay.

(34:46):
Trump said he communicated this to Hamas and they had
agreed to disarm at this twenty point peace proposal. He stated, Okay, well,
we will see. He said, I spoke to Hamas. Well.
Does that mean he spoke to somebody in Hamas? He
spoke to the leader of Hamas because some of their

(35:06):
leaders have bit the dust. Anyways, I spoke to Mos
and I said, you're going to disarm, right, Yes, sir,
We're gonna disarm. That's what they told me. Trump said later,
clarifying that he passed the message to intermediary, so he
didn't exactly pick up the phone and call him. He
exaggerated there a little bit, you know, he does. Theolic
for Trump's peace plan has darkened. Since he returned from

(35:28):
a visit from Israel in Egypt on Monday. Israel was
strict today into Gaza and kept the Enclaves border shut
on Tuesday. Anyway, while re emerged and Hamas fighters demonstrated
their grip by executing men in the street, talked about that. Uh, anyway,

(35:48):
it's I don't know. Again, I take take of the
grain of assaultan king of the king of the skeptics.
But yeah, okay, he's threatened them to play, to play
nice or else. Well, we'll see again, we will see,

(36:11):
we will see. I don't know, I don't know. There
are some Christians who are there are such a thing
as Palistine and Christians. I've talked about this before.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
And.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
There are I've heard numbers. Well, I think they're exaggerate.
I've heard numbs as high as ten percent of Palistine
as a Christians. I really don't believe that. I think
probably a more accurate number is probably somewhere between two
and five percent. That might even be beefing it up
a bit, but just from things I've read and what

(36:55):
little research I've done. But Christians and guys are breathing
a sigh of relief after Trump's peace just being reported
by Francis Mark Telly Breitbart dot com. The small but
devout Christian comedian in Gaza is slowly starting the process
of rebuilding after Israel and the genocidal terrorist organization of
Moss agreed to a peace deal broken by the White
House this week. Father Gabriel Romanelli of Gaza City's Holy

(37:19):
Family Church said on Monday. Holy Family Church is the
only Catholic church in the Gaza strip governed by Hamas
for nearly twenty years. It has provided refuge for Palestinian
civilians fleeing the fleeing Israeli self defense operations against a
Moas in the last two years of war prompted by
the Hamas massacres and abductions. On October seventh, twenty twenty three.

(37:39):
In July, the Israeli defense forces of the IDEA have
mistakingly struck the church, killing three Prime minist management non
you personally apologized for the air well. It's what they
call collateral damage. It doesn't make it good, but you
know what happens throughout the war. Father Romanelli has provided
deaily updates online in this native Argentine Spanish regarding the
status of the Christians of Gaza. This weekend, Preest published

(38:03):
the remarkable images of children singing in the church following
the news that Hamas had accepted a proposal in the
Gods of War which we hope stix. On Monday, he
published a video titled the Hope four Day is Here
in response to the enactment of the Israeli Hamas peace Deal,
which resulted in the release of all of the remaining
living on October seven hostages and the signing of a

(38:23):
long term plan broker by President Donald Trump to rehabilitate
God's eliminate the threat of Moss. Father Romanelli noted in
the video that many Christians in Gods remain in disbelief,
worried that the currencies for I will not hold. I'm
with you brothers, and IDF strikes will resume. And here's
another reason why I have, you know, some skepticism. Guarded

(38:46):
optimism maybe might be another way to put it, but
why I do have some skepticism here. I want you
to hear this clip and this is from being Uh.
This ISPs being interviewed on British news television. Who's an
activist pro Palestinian activists apparently living there in Europe and

(39:13):
still not real happy about this whole thing obviously, but
of what she and her colleagues apparently plan as future
response to all this, and it's not real good. But
let me let you hear it.

Speaker 11 (39:31):
How does this peace deal feed in to the protests
we've seen over recent months.

Speaker 12 (39:37):
Well, first, I think it's really important to address that
as Palestine Holodariti activists, we of course want to allow
this time for Palestinians to breathe and celebrate what we
hope is more than just a pause in the constant
bombardment and military violence that Palestinians have been subjected to
by the Israeli military for the past two years, but

(39:58):
that as members of the en national community, our solidarity
activists our duty to continue to urge our politicians and
our governments to not only acknowledge their own complicity, but
to address the utter lack of accountability from and for
Israeli leaders. It's important to emphasize that we will continue

(40:19):
to protest and we will remain on the streets until
there is uninhibited entry of aid and Tagaza. We will
remain on the streets until we win an arms embargo
and sanctions on Israel. And we will remain on the
streets until there is a complete end to the occupation
and until Palestinians have total libration of their land.

Speaker 11 (40:39):
You'll have watched today's peace submit in Egypt closely. There
was very little talk about accountability. There is very little
talk about well, there was a lot of talk about rebuild.
It's almost as if they've moved on to this next
phase with very little sort of self determination by the
Palestinian people. You out a governing body coming in made

(41:03):
of other world leaders and officials. Is that something you
once you talked about more absolutely?

Speaker 12 (41:09):
I mean, I think it's imperative that we address that
Trump's plan not only fails to afford Palestinians the right
to govern themselves, but that it ignores the much larger
issues of Israel's colonial project, of the displacement caused during
the number and of you know, how we are going

(41:30):
to move on from the situation, highlighting the fact that
the reality is that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have
been martyred in the past two years and countless in
the decades before. You know, these are the things that
we want to see addressed and talked about. Every single
sign of Palestinian culture and social life has been systematically
annihilated by Israel in the past two years. Schools, hospitals, universities. Yes,

(41:54):
we have to talk about rebuilding, and again that is
one thing that isn't being spoken about enough. But we
need to understand that these are all issues part of
a much larger project and scheme of Setler colonialism.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
There you go, Setler colonialism. So she's pushing that narrative
that there was not there was hardly a Jew there
until you know, nineteen forty eight. Uh yeah, reprehensible. It's
about the best I can say about that. And of
course the British journalists just stnic go ahead and you
know talking is they do on the baby say because

(42:27):
they do this little thing when they talk they kind
of talk like this, and then they do this at
loves big thing.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Now.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
I guess they teach them that British journalism school, and
so I find it really super annoying. There's not a
lot of things that annoy me, but that's just that's
just when I hear them talking like this and then
doing the up speak on the re pot it it's
like talk normal, talk normal anyway, whatever that is over there.

(42:56):
Uh So this a journalist kind of let loose, this
being parted by Joe Kovac's World of Daily uh As
the Trump sure of course signed the historic media's piece.
Still we'll see all Monday. Securing the release of all
meeting is rarely hot. So I mean that's nice, that's good.
For years now, and this is coming from from Benny Johnson,

(43:20):
journalists for years now hideous left wing orcs. Uh well,
he's blasting he's American journalists. He's blasting the pro palacin
and protesters in the US non college campuses as frauds, saying,
you know, Trump's freed Palestine as well. In the sunse
For years now, hideous left wing orcs have been taking
over college campuses, marching and riding on our streets saying
that they want peace in the Middle East and they

(43:43):
want to free Palestine. This again from Benny Johnson, he said,
and President Trump is now freed Palestine. So where are
these protesters in their filthy cafius and holding up signs
of President Trump saying this is our dear leader and
everything else where the blank car you where'd you go? Exactly?
Did your bullhorns run out of batteries. Where are you

(44:05):
like camping out to thank President Trump when he lands
back at the airport for ending the war? Isn't that
the point? This is what you wanted, right, you wanted
the end of the war. Right, you wanted guys to
go back to the Palestinian people. Well Trump just delivered that,
and he did it with the backing of Israel and
all the Arab nations together, and the people and gods
are celebratings to where the blank are you? You stuck

(44:26):
your little tent in the Columbia University? Did your blank
fall off? Probably actually as a prerequisit of being part
of these protests, being intellectually consistent for once in your
miserable lives, can you just give the guy a w
And didn't he just give you what you want? You've
been frothing at the mouth, behaving like domestic terrorists for

(44:47):
the last couple of years in our country because of
this conflict. They're such frauds. Don't believe these people. Don't
listen to these people. President Trump is the president of peace.
He deserves to be celebrated. Well, if this gets pulled off, yeah, anyway,
let's go to Let's go to brag. Yeah, I have

(45:10):
got most of them have gone kind of kind of
into radio silence, haven't they. We've got more Christian talk
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Speaker 3 (47:04):
Oh yeah, well again, I'm I'm praying and hopeful that
it's it lasts for a while and it's not gonna
last forever. We know that we can read the Bible,
so we needed, you know, all of us as Christians
or everything our Bible need to you know, take this
with a bit of caution, but you know we can.
We can still thank the Lord for what we've got.

(47:25):
But again, I'm taking this all with the grains of
salt in some level of skepticism, but guarded optimism, I
guess you could say, And I really think that's that's
the way we've got to approach this, because this could
easily blow up any well pun intended. It could easily

(47:48):
blow up in everybody's face in no time. Let's hope
it doesn't. But it's important to understand the dynamics. They
are very complex in that region of the world. Been
going on well for thousands of years. Israel's had a
lot of enemies. Why because well, the God's chosen Christ

(48:08):
came out of Israel. It came out of the Israeli people.
They break people, and the devil don't like that. So
there's I mean, this is why they've been beat from
pillar to post since day one and still are because
there are forces of evil, a rate against them. Right,
So you have to understand there's a spiritual you know,

(48:30):
behind the scenes. Shall we say, if you look beyond
just you know, the rockets in the in the terrorists
and the gleam in their eyes as they kill people.
When you look past that and say, okay, what's the
driving force behind all that? And yes, I know they're
radical Muslims, what's driving what's the driving force behind that? Well,

(48:54):
it's Satanic. There's a spiritual force behind it. And you
know you can see clearly in scripture this chess game,
so to speak. This's been going on between the Lord
and the devil since UH well a good while at
least as far as uh our Earth is concerned, since

(49:14):
uh Guard of Eden, and well it when I'm before that.
But I'm saying as far as as a man is concerned,
and his relationship with other men, in his relationship with
the Lord, and to some extent, his relationship with the devil.
So we can go back into the book and with
with within a few paragraphs of the opening of the book,

(49:37):
who shows up having possessed I don't know, a serpent.
I think it was probably a dinosaur, but whatever, just
my theory. But some sort of reputating creature it was
hanging out there in the guard which could which could
speak apparently in the language that that eve knew, which
that would Afflord me. I mean, look, if some rabbit
came up, never mind a lizard or snake, but if

(49:58):
some rabbit came out into my backgyard, which I do
have rabbits that bound to my backyard, a little wild rabbits.
I love. Misssill thinks you're just cute as all get out. Uh.
The kyot the coyotes at roal our neighborhood, I think
look at him as launch But anyway, and people's cats, unfortunately,
But if one of those little little furry critters just

(50:20):
came over to me and said hey, rich and started
talking to me. Well, within a matter of seconds, I'd
probably be laying on the ground, you know, having fainted.
I mean, you'd have to have smelling salts revived me
or do that you know, the Sturnham chest rub real
hard to waken me up. I'd be I'd be passed out.
Eve didn't do that this. Uh, serpents started yacking with

(50:45):
her about uh, you know some things, and about now
I go ahead and have that forbidden food for breakfast
is pretty good for you. And you know, the Lord's
just trying to pull a fastin Oni, and she bought it.
So when you read the book, I mean from the
beginning and then towards the end, you know Satan has
mentioned pretty not too far into the beginning of the stories.
I always say in the beginning of the book, and

(51:06):
I mean I don't believe it's like a story story.
I mean that's you know, don't believe it. But and
then when you read towards the end, I mean he's
still pulling shenanigans. He's mentioned towards the tail end of
the book. He's mentioned at the very beginning of the
Book of the Bible, and of course in various places
with ten. So there's been this thing going on for
a pretty good while here and it's sort of come

(51:30):
to more of a crescendo here as we move into
the Latter Days. I believe we were in the beginnings
of the Latter Days, moving you know, well into the
Latter Days. We're not into the time of the Great
Tribulation yet. That's probably not too far off, but who knows.
It could be another twenty fifty, one hundred years. I
kind of lean towards probably somewhere in the ballpark and
maybe between twenty and fifty, but it could be longer.

(51:52):
That could be two hundred years. We don't know, is
the point. We don't know. But we're closer to that
point in time than we were yesterday. And can see
the chess pieces being set up on the board. I mean,
you can see things coming together. I mean, blind man
can see it. If you know your Bible, you can
see that we are in the early days of the
Latter Days at the very least. All right, the apostasy,

(52:14):
that scripted church, that was one of the going to
be one of the backdrops to the Latter Days. While
we're there, that's going down Israel becoming a nation. Well,
that's happened, that happened several decades ago, happened in the
last century, and the wars and the rumors of wars,
the crazy weather, the earthquakes and crazy places, the volcano.

(52:38):
I mean, we're seeing everything that was Jesus said, here's
going to be the hallmarks of moving into the latter days.
Here's what it's going to look like, how people would
be acting and behaving during those times prophesied in the
New Testament. So, I mean, you can't avoid it. It's there.
It's right in front of your eyes if you look.
I know there is a danger sometimes comparing Headlin so

(53:00):
what's in the Bible. But I mean some of this
stuff is just I mean it's pretty obvious, like we'll do.
I mean, you can't miss it unless you just are
trying to miss it. So certainly we are in a
very I think in some ways exciting as a Christian,
but in some ways also very precarious moment in history,
a pretty wild time to be alive and around. We're
here for a reason. You're here right now for a reason.

(53:21):
I would be praying and asking Lord, what's my job
in all this? In your army. What do you want
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place stagnet plateau? Maybe you're in reverse, You're going backwards.
You used to love the Lord, you used to pray more?
Or are you in drive?

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just because I know there's been some confusion on that

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from time to time. So switching gears again, prayerful that
things will will some things will come together in the
at least that there will be a window of significant
seasfire and peace. Again. I'm cautiously, very very cautiously optimistic

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effect a bit skeptical. Well that's me, you know, you
know I am. So we have the shutdown, according to
go to some of the shutdown stuff, because well we're
still in it. Now according to the guy who runs
a treasury department, US Treasury Secretary Thiss being it's been

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wored by Reuters. A US Treasury Secretary Scott Descent, he's
saying that the two week call federal government shutdown is
costing the US economy of about fifteen brilliant that's what
it be, fifteen brillion bucks a day and lost output.
Turia's secretary of Goverson said this today Wednesday, putting an
estimate on its economic toll and urging Democrats to be

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heroes and sided with Republicans and it of course, you know,
everybody blame everybody else calling that. He told the news
conference that the shutdown was starting to cut into muscle
of the US economy. Quote, we believe the shutdown may
start costing US economy up to fifteen million bucks a day. Said.
The wave of investment into the US economy, including into
artificial intelligence, is sustainable and is only getting started, but

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the federal government's shutdowns in chreasing and impediment percent said.
He said, there is a pent up demand, but then
President Donald Trump has unleashed this boom with his policies.
He told us to see NBC at an event held
on the sidelines of the International Military Fund World Bank
annual meetings in Washington. Let me just interject there. I

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don't trust any of those people, momentary front people in
the World Bank. And yeah, okay, can you say mystery Babylon. Yeah. Anyway,
the only thing slowing us down here at they're part
of it. The only thing slowing us down here is
the government shut down, Sen said. He said that incentives
in the Republican tax law and Trump's terrifs would keep

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the investment boom going and fuel continued growth. I think
we could be in a period like the late eighteen
hundreds when railroads came in, like in the nineteen nineties
when we got there and then and all this tech boom,
he said. I also said that you has to have
us sit for the twenty twenty five fiscal year into
September thirty. This was smaller than the one point eight

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three through three in devisit posted in prior fisk gear.
But but but he's still going up. Okay, you know,
he's trying to put a nice face on and put
a little smiley face on it. But gang, we're you know,
we're way past thirty seven tree now and growing, and
it's instill going out. It's just it's not sustainable and
it's horrible and it needs something's to happen. And I'm
still not erring much. I know the Orange man trying

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to say, well, you know the terriffs will put you
will help bring that down. Yeah, don't put it inn
in it. But i mean, come on, thirty seven plus
trillion and growing, that that's just a ticking time bomb.
And I'm afraid one day, if we're not carefully, will
blow up and blow our economie out of the water.

Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
But that that's what he's saying. The shutdown is costing
in terms of some economic effect. Now, of course, the
reason for the shutdown in part had to deal with
some health care issues regarding illegals legal immigrants. Well, the
White House is revealed legal immigrants who have received medicaid. Oh,

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they're not getting any matter coming anything from the government
for any kind of any kind of benefits or anything
like that and any kind of product like that from
the government. Well, why does reveal legal immigrants receiving medicaid?
At least a few wild spokesperson told Fox News Digital
this is being imported. By by the way, by Preston Mozel,
Fox News. A White Hot spokesperson told Fox News Digital

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that criminal legal murders and rapists received medicaid at the
American Taxpayers Expanse. They have biled a number of criminal
legal immigrants they discovered precede medicaid. As the Senate remains
in gridlock over the government shutdown, and this is one
of the things that they were kind of having a
sticking point over was illegals getting uh, taxpayer funded medical stuff,

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you know, from programs they're supposed to be for Americans,
American citizens. At least they attained detail information trying the
arrest of forty not illegal immigrants who have all been
deported under the Trump administration, who were arrested on it
for an array of crimes that occurred in the US.
Charges include murder, assault, Fat Burnley, rape, and sexual abuse
of a minor, amongst other serious charges. You know, uh,

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and I was gonna say something tachy, I won't. In
Congress of federal government has remained shut down for more
than two weeks, and the sentiment a minority leader Chuck
Schumer and most Democrats, although not all, pushed for a
reinstatement of Medicaid policy that was altered under the One
Big Beautiful Bill Act to be included in the legislation
that would fund the government through November twenty first. But

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they've showed that. The White House has said, well, a
number of these illegal immigrants that they received medicaid federal
aw prohibits in document individuals from Tenny Medicaid. Some states
use federal funds to provide unique versions of state funded
healthcare that permit illegal immigrants to receive health benefits at
taxpayer expense. By the way, Okay, in fact, it was

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White House spokes Versusnamuel Jackson to Fox News quote. Due
to previously lacked federal controls and Democrats state policies, criminal
legal murders and rapists received Medicaid and the American taxpayer's expense.
They paid for it. You paid for it, I paid
for it. We all paid for it. In fact, on
the Bid administration, states were not allowed to place limits
on the length of time someone could attest to having
eligible immigration status for Medicaid. So some of these people

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work the system and got it. The Working Families Tax
Cut Actor is ensuring taxpayer dollars are focused on American
citizens and not subsidized health care for legal aliens. But
Democrats are desperate to undo these important reforms, and they're
willing to make the American people separate for it. Jackson
added the majority of legal immigrants the White House share

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with Fox News come from Mexico, l Salvador, and even
include some that legally immigrated from China. White House officials
also explained that legal immigrants could obtain Medicaid through different means,
but specifically emergency care. Spending on those not legally in
the US rows from three billion to nine billion under
President Joe Biden. Across various states, tax dollars spent on

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legal immigrants succeeded that of pregnant women, children, elderly, and
the disabled during the Biden administration. Okay, that would be
American citizens in those categories, of course, you know. So
there's that. So that's what apparently the numbers UH are showing.
Although you still have people insisting in the mainstream comedia

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UH and and many Dems, not all, but many Dems
also insisting that that's just not the case. And you know,
the fact checkers going, that's just not true. That well,
apparently it is. I mean, it depends on how you
look at it, I guess, but they're figuring out ways
to do it and they're getting it, and that's that's
part of the whole sticking point here. That was kind

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of one of the big, the big sticking points in
this whole deal. It's being of a illegal immigrants. DHS
releases zero migrants into the US for the fifth consecutive month.
What abou John Bender brightbar dot com. Imagine that for
the fifth consecutive month this year, coopment of Homeland Insecurity

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has released zero illegal immigrants in the United States. Interier
doesn't mean that there aren't coming in and sneaking past.
They are, but not in the large numbers like we
were seeing. September mark the fifth consecutive month with zero
releases by the Border Patrol along the southwest border compared
to the NY four releases in September twenty twenty four.
The HS officials boasted in a news release the elimination

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of the federal government's catch and release policy as a
massive victory for the Trump administration, particularly after former President
Joe Biden blew the pipeline wide open with a network.
Under Biden, it has estimated that millions of illegal immigrants
were released into the US interier in just four years.
Biden's catching release network was aided by several non governmental
organizations of bnngo's with a financial stake in getting as

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many illegally marines into the US interior as possible as
their federal contracts and budgets depended on it. So it
was kind of the right hand Washington left hand there.
Although the left hand was pretending it was trying to
not let him in the right hand was saying, yeah,
let him in, and washing the other hand. You see
how that worked. Last year, for instance, Alliance for Safe

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Texas issued the bomb Show report that revealed how the
Biden administration funneled about eight hundred million bucks to certain
Catholic charities or Callic Charities USA, specifically to help facilitate
it's illegal immigration pinpeline, also under a Trump DHS officials
note fiscal year twenty twenty five ended with the fewest
southern border crossings in thirty five years, with less than
turn and thirty eight thousand illegal limitage crossing into in

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the last twelve months. John as being put up by
John Bender. By the way, Breitbart dot Com, you want
to check out that report, But that's showing how the
border is pretty much. I'm gonna say it's shut down,
but really all that stuff has taken a hit and

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has slowed way way down. In fact, I'm reading reports
of a lot of illegal agreements legal liberates who are
so scared of they're actually just saying, you know what,
we're going to self deport and self important deportation numbers
are up pretty remarkably. I've seen some pretty high numbers.
I'm a little slow to quoting. I don't know how accuratey.
I don't know anybody really knows a good hard number.

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But it appears that the yeah, those numbers are up.
It appears that that is kind of working. So that's
good news in terms of border security. In terms of
border security. Let's take a break. We'll get back. Toxic

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work environment. Interesting survey by Monster about that. Does that
play into identity politics and DEI stuff as well as
that kind of dovetail one and to the other. I
think it maybe does. We're gonna get into that. Had
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So An interesting survey from Monster the monster people Monster
jobs dot com people. Interesting survey. They do surveys, not
again these some of these jobs places do that see
what's going on in the workplaces and workplace environments and etcetera, etcetera.

Speaker 13 (01:11:51):
UH.

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This is being boarded by UH Lucas Nolan reasent survey
from Monster has revealed a disturbing trend in the American workforce.
An increasing number of employees say they are facing toxic
work environments with detrimental effects on their mental health. Not surprised.
Not surprised when you have all this DEI stuff going

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on identity politics both in and out of the workplace. Yeah,
what do you expect? So according to this survey, eighty
percent of employees report toxic work environments. Eighty percent of
employees and in this latest mental Health in the Workplace

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survey conducted by Monster, it paints a grim picture of
the current state of American workplace as a survey, which
polled eleven hundred workers, found that an alarming eighty percent
of respondents described their workplace as toxic, a significant increase
from the sixty seven percent reported just a year prior.
This toxic environment is taking a toll on employees' mental
health and mental well being, with seventy one percent of

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workers rating their mental health at either poor that, by
the way, was forty percent almost half or fair thirty
one percent, which means that a lot of mental anguish
going on with a lot of folks, mental stress on
top of the other mental stresses that may come with
the job. Anyway. Now, growing to the survey, the primary
coup whish behind this mental health crisis or toxic workplace

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culture fifty nine percent and bad managers fifty four percent.
Excuse me these I'm getting choked up. These findings underscored
the critical role I know I've got such a my manager,
let me just come, let me just say, right right
right off the bat, my manager at my job is great.
He's a long haired carpenter at this particular job. Did

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I work, we got another job, but we got this
particular gig. Uh. He's a long haired Jewish carpenter. And
let me tell you something, the benefit plans for this
gig are out literally out of this world, literally heavenly.

Speaker 13 (01:13:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
These findings underscore the critical role that work environments play
in shaping employees overall well being and the urgent need
for employers to address these issues. For example, Vicky Selemi,
a career ex monster, emphasizes the severity of the situation, stating, quote,
stressful and toxic work environments aren't just bad for business.
They're dangerous for employee health. Well sure, because if you're
under a lot of mental stress and anguish and not

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knowing if you're going to have a job the next
day because you know, somebody complaining that you looked at
them sideways or you know you appropriated their culture kind
of nonsense. Well, you know you might find yourself out
out the door, at least on parole or probation with
your boss. I mean, this is not Our findings show
that workers are reaching a breaking point prioritizing their mental

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well being over promotions or raises. They're like, look, I
just want to get through the day and not lose
my mind. A lot of fear. This comes from fear. Okay. Now,
of course, as Christians, we keep our eyes on Christ,
perfect love casts out for you. We live by faith,
not fear. That's very important to do and listen. I've
been in some pretty crummy work environments, some very stressful

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crummy work environments in my life, so I get it.
And they can be mentally taxing. They can be physically taxing,
but they can be mentally taxing, which in some cases
is kind of a worse stress on you than physical stress.
Survey also shed line on what employees believe their employers
can do to support their mental health. Half of the
workers who feel supported say they are allowed time off

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for doctor or therapy appointments, while twenty nine percent appreciate
having a generous amount of paid time off. Well, good
luck with that one. Additionally, twenty three percent of responded
cite mental health specific policies as an important way for
employers to demonstrate support. Interestingly, the majority of workers sixty
two percent, prioritize their mental health over having a bragworthy job.

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Many would even pass on a promotion, which, of course
a lot of times if you go hire up the
food chain and especially some of these big corporations, there's
much more stress put on you because you don't respect
to perform up to a certain level. And if you
don't buy, and then you know, how do you pay
the mortgage and put the kids through school? And you know,
buy the dog's food for the dog and the fish
food for the fish, and pay your property taxes and

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you're insurance and everything else and keep a car that
isn't a Fred Flintstonemobile going down the road. Yeah, it's
a lot of pressure in our modern society. Or forty
two percent said, or a raise or thirty two percent,
or even a raise if it meant better mental health,
They're like, you know, I'll skip the raise. I'll skip
their motion. I'll just stay in my current slot here

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at the corporation if I don't have as much mental stress.
That's kind of sad. This highlights the significant shift to
employees' priorities with well being, taking pressed and several traditional
markers of success, which I get, I sympathize, I get it.
Despite the clear importance of mental health to employees, the
survey reveals the disignate between workers' needs and employer actions.

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Of course, staggering nine to three percent of responding say
their employer is not focused on supporting employee mental health,
a drastic increase from the seventy eight percent who reported
just the same a year ago. Now, some employees, I
mean employers rather aren't taking this seriously and have taken
this seriously and do in fact in the employee insurance packages,

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which of course often times is pretty crummy. But the
employee insurance packages a lot of employees get a lot
of times there is a rider in there for mental
health stuff, you know, like seeing a psychiatrist or a
psychologist or a counselor and mental well being stuff and
you know, sort of free counseling over the phone where
you can call if you're having a you know, stressed
out day when you get to the houses, a toll

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free num where you can call it. You know, it's
twenty four to seven and there's somebody in there that'll
kind of you know it, you can kind of sound
off on and talk to and it's confidential supposedly blah
blah blah blah. So some companies do offer that kind
of thing, and that's great. I mean, you know it's
part of some people's health packages, employee benefits packages. You know,
after've been there ninety days, you can you can call
and talk to somebody if you've had kind of a

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rough day and it's supposed to be confidential, supotally and
uh uh. And then if they feel like you might
need to go see a counsel or see a shrink,
then you know they can maybe call, uh, the corporate
office and call the HR people to corporate and say, hey,
you know you might want to give this person there
too off to go see a sure and a shrink.
And we're gonna pay for it, and okay, and then
some and that's cool, I mean, and some some big

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companies offer that sort of thing, and that's nice. I
get it. That's cool as part of your overall well
and if you have these wellness programs where they're taking
care of you both mentally and physically, you know, in
your in your benefits package or whatever. And again some
of these are you know, they're not all that great.
Some are nicer, of course, obviously, is you move up
the food chain to most corporations, you tend to get

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the better health care and mental health care and benefits
packages as you climb up the ladder. If you're just
a you know, a schlap that just walked in the
in the door, you know six months ago, well, yeah,
you got the crummy package. It costs you hundred bucks
a month or two hundred bucks a month, but you
know it's got like a three five hundred dollars deductible,
so you know you're paying for the rest of it.
But you got insurance. I mean you can, you can

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you can check off, you can click off the thing
on your tax return with the irs that you have insurance.
You can click it off to say well technically you do,
but you're still you know, but it's only paying for
much and nothing. You know how that works? Yeah, thank
you Obamacare. But anyway, that's uh, that happens with a
lot of with a lot of it. But see a

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lot of a lot of employees, employers. But see, here's
the thing that I kind of go back to. How
much of this is some of this DEI stuff, which
of course comes out of identity politics. I mean, you
go back to the roots of a lot of this,
go back to the roots of a lot of this
looking looking at the story, shall we say, behind the story,

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what's the rootage of a lot of this? And how
has it affected us both politically and socially and in
other areas. You know, it's there becoming more of a
problem many workplaces now some corporations in the past year.
So I have said, you know, this TEI stuff, I
think we're going to come of back off of it

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a bit. And of course you're being hit with lawsuits
too for revers discrimination claims and all sorts of stuff. Uh.
This this by Chris Anne Hall. By the way, check
out her website k R I S A N N
E H A L L chris Ann Hall dot com.
She's a constitutional attorney and expert and all that. I

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want to try and get her on the show one
of these days. And though she's busy as I'll get
a hurt her Hubby JD. Hall, he's a pastor. And
there they're all over the country, all over the time. Man,
they're on the road, man, just all the time. And
they do these these educational seminars about about the about
the constitution, and they talk to law enforcement groups and
just citizens at large and certain political activist and so
on and so forth about you know, here's what the
Constitution says and doesn't say, Here's what it's all about.

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And trying to get back trying to get our government
back to following it, and trying to get our society
back to following it. And because it is our constitution,
it doesn't belong to the government, doesn't belong to the politicians.
It's ours, okay, it's mine and yours anyway. This by
Chris Anne Hall j D. Attorneys. When a society begins
to divide itself by identity through race, class, gender, religion,

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or political tribe, and it only steps into a well
worn path map by history's darkest moments, and then the
politics thrives by separating people into groups and finding them
not by character or conviction, but by labels. And you know,
when you speaking the jobs, when you fill out an application,
you know what, well, what are you?

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Are you a non are you a non white Hispanic
or a non Anglo Hispanic? Sometimes well you can be
Hispanic and have some white in you, okay, and still
be part of that culture. I mean it's like they
kind of make it, you know what. I use plays
Over the years, this has just been a habit of
mine whenever I've applied for a gig somewhere, going to

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work for whoever, whatever, because I'm a mixed race and ancestry,
so I just put other or sometimes if if that's
not an option, I just check off as many boxes
as I can. And and it's interesting because invariably the
person interviewing me or h, what are you most of?

Speaker 12 (01:21:59):
What?

Speaker 7 (01:21:59):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
What do you identify yourself? I'm all those? Okay? But
but but what would you say I'm all of those? Well,
I don't really have a well, make one. I'm not
trying to be difficult, but I'm I'm Native American. I'm
to Hano Hispanic, I'm Anglo. I mean, you know, what
do you And sometimes I'll be sarcastic and said, well,
what do you need this month to fill your quota?
And you just use that if you want. I don't care.

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Here's what I am. I'm just being honest with you,
and you know, just be honest on job applications. I've
head back and forth with these people, which sometimes resulted
in them kind of just saying, well, you know, we'll
give you a call, which means hit the door and
get out of here because you're bugging me. But I'm
honest about it, not gonna lie. But I mean it's
you know, a lot of this comes from government and

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hr and you know, and lawyers in whovenscons themselves, in
big corporations and even sometimes small companies. But this is
all part of the thing, right. The fragment of the
fragmentation mirrors the nine stages of genocide, where each phase
from a classification of the symbolization and to dehumanization and
polarization depends upon the deliberate creation of us and them.

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When media and political parties amplify these divisions for power
over our profit, the result is not unity under justice,
but suspicion, resentment, and ultimately violence. This process is fundamentally
anathetical to the foundation of the American Republic. Our constitution
established a system where government tects individual rights without regard

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to class or category. Our constitutional Republic was built on
the principle that liberty belongs to the person, not the group.
Justice must be blind to race, creed, or party identity.
Politics replaces we the people with we the factions, treating
the equality of natural rights for the tyranny of collective identity.

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The solution lies in returning to the first principles to
restore the understanding that government's sole legitimate purpose is to
cure the rights of individuals, not to manage groups. This
requires education and constitutional truth, media literacy rooted in discernment
rather than emotion, and I would add propaganda and a

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citizen's willing to reject tribal loyalty for moral and civic virtue.
When Americans once again see each other as equals in
liberty rather than opponents on a battlefield of tribal banners,
the Republic can heal and endure. And again it puts
those of us you know this, All this tribalism, both

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furgative and literal, and all this, Uh, well, how do
you so far identify nonsense? Puts those of us who
are you know, of mixed ethnicities and and racist kind
of in a in a weird spot. Well you know
which one do you? I mean, you want to deny
one over the other. I'm, you know, kind of equal
parts here, enough of each one or the other? What

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do you want? For example, I'm over one eighth Cherokee
from what I can tell, which would be more than
enough to I think allow me to join and to
join most of the Cherokee groups. So I was just say, well,
you know, just deny that. I don't know, just just
as an example, there's also a patchy in there too,
according to my mother's side of the family. And so

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it's like, you know, what is a person like Moir?
And I'm not alone because there's a lot of us
mixed racers. What do we do? What do you put
on there? How are we classified? Because you know, they
want to put you in a box, they want to
stick a peg in a hole. And that's coming from government.
You know, I'm all about civil rights. I'm glad we

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had our civil rights you know stuff, And we've struggled
for civil rights since almost day one on this country.
I get that, but I think we're in a pretty
dark spot there. But I think some holdovers from the
civil rights era of trying to sort of swing the
pensil as far as we could to quickly as possible
correct wrongs. Now they we're in a place where that's

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not really necessary. We've kind of got some weird things
happening and it's opened up now some cans of worms.
And we still have you know, old hiring forms from nineteen,
you know, seventy eight because the company have bothered change
of forms in that many years. They're kind of irrelevant.
It's like, who cares, really, I'm an American citizen. Here's

(01:26:24):
my ID to prove that I am. You have a
birth certificate? There it is, but so scary number. Now
what else you need to know? Who cares what my
race is or mixtures as races are, or you know,
I'm a whether I'm whatever I am? Who cares to
do my skill sets match what you need at this moment.

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But you see a lot of companies that have government contracts. Wow,
I've got quotas. We've got to fill. Well, that's that's discriminatory,
that's wrong. And again what does a mixpace person do
they where do they fit? Which there are plenty in
this country as the mixes all get together, and you know,

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races all mixed together, and people different races marry others
have different races, and we all kind of I've said
it before, if this nation lasts another couple hundred years,
we're gonna look like we're all gonna look like Argentinians.
Medium to light brown hair, mostly brown eyes, but some
with blue and green eyes, very light brown skin. And

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that ain't bad because there's I mean, Argentinian people are
very handsome, women are very beautiful. Miss Argentina is usually
a lot of times I've noticed in the top ten
in the in the Miss World beauty pageants. They're good
looking folks, not a bad thing in that regard, I guess.

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So if you can last another one or two hundred years,
or if we can last on the one hundred years
as a nation, it will be some of the best
looking folks on the planet, I think. But anyway, let's
take a break. More Christian talk, a rock straight ahead sticks.

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Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Little old school disco music for you there. Don't don't
don't freak out, Baptists. You don't have to dance. Don't
judge others who are It's okay, uh dance, but not
in the way that you shake your hip to make
your brother's slip.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
That's that's the the caveat there, all right. So well,
look when they when the children of Visual got on
the other side of the river after Pharaoh was after him,
and you know he took a bath and the rest
of his army and the Red Sea. What was what
was one of the first things they did, and in
fact the women let it. Miriam and all that crowd.

(01:30:39):
They broke into song and dance. I mean they broke
out the instruments. They jammed a jam session. Man, they rocked,
they danced and celebrated. You know, Pharaoh's army was destroyed.
They were out of Egypt, out of harm's way. Of
course they were fix would go into the wilderness. But
you know they they were praising them ord for what

(01:31:00):
he did for him pretty pretty wild thing. I mean,
you know, it's one of the more wilder things the
lerd did in the Bible, wipe out Pharaoh's army, and
some believe perhaps they row himself. I don't know for sure,
but good possibility he took a bath to or he
might have been standing, or he might have crawled back

(01:31:21):
up to the shoreliner's been standing on the shore line
as he like in the in the movie the tank
Commandmaentery may have been standing on the shore line and
watched everybody drown, or he may have actually been in
there himself and maybe got out and it was okay,
but but pretty depressed. His army was gone, and it
was it was a cream of his crop too, the
charo tiers and all that stuff, and a lot of

(01:31:41):
military equipment and stuff literally down the drain. But after that,
I mean, the children of visions were like, whoa, I mean,
why wouldn't they be I mean, they thought they were goners,
They thought they were goners, but they weren't. The Lord

(01:32:03):
held favor at bay with that big pillar of fire,
big wallle fire in front of him in his army
as he blew all night on the the winds blue
all night on the on that red sea and opened
up that passage for him where they could cross on
dry land. By the way, it wasn't mud, it's perfectly dry.
And then when that finger of fire lifts up and

(01:32:24):
farewell goes, well, there's dry land and that and that
that thing is still opened up. I can run my
guys that still go grab them. I mean, how how
big of an idiot and how hard of a heart
do you have to have to say that way? I mean,
the pillar of fire should have been enough to say, yeah,
let's just go ahead and go back home and call
today guys. I think we're done here. But he's just
like no. I mean, and that's a pretty hard heart.

(01:32:45):
I mean, that's that's that's insanity, frankly. But nevertheless, they're
on the other side of the of the Red Sea
there and they break into two song and dance, right.
I mean, they're rocking. They're rocking. A lot was led
by by the gals. They're rocking, and they were praising

(01:33:06):
the Lord. And they had they had the you know,
the instruments and and the singing. Well sorry Church of
Christ people, but there were instruments, uh, And they were
having a great time, having a great time before the
Lord and celebrating, well it was your attachment. Well okay,

(01:33:27):
but that the Lord I'm sure was pleased by that.
But that they broke into praise. Of course, I know
a year or two later they're murmuring. But man of
Bread again, this is the three hundred and sixty fifth
time this year, and you know they were wanting, uh,

(01:33:53):
you know, meet and they were wanting pot roast and whatever.
And he gave him the he flew with what was it,
the feather for the birthingyway, He gave him some poetry
and you need it till it comes out your nose.
But uh yeah, it was one of those moments where
you know it that that wilderness time was kind of
rough for the whole gang there. But but my point
is they partied, Okay, they partied. King David dance naked.

(01:34:19):
And I'm not saying start dancing naked by any means,
And if you do that out in public, you will
probably go to jail. Don't do that. But King David,
in his own goofy way, was trying not to put
any pretenses between him and the Lord and just saying, look, Lord,
take me as I am sinner and all. And he
was dancing and praise. Of course, this old lady said
get back in the house here, boy, and God said,

(01:34:42):
oh no, no, no, no, no no. And for that
little remark, you're not gonna have any kids. I mean,
that's like, wow, that was pretty harsh. Go back and
read that. You are some wild stories in your Bible.
Let me tell you, if you read the Bible, it's
it's kind of wild. It's a pretty wild book, some
wild stuff. Haven't read it. And see, I'm not telling

(01:35:04):
you where to find those things. I don't want you
to dig him out on your own. And you know,
look him up, google him whatever, and dig into your
Bible and and dig stuff out the Bible is I
get your nose in the Bible. There's there's some cool
and wild there's crazy stuff in there. That's just wild.
That's why the Bible is even just his book of literature.
From people who don't believe it's say it's a work
of it's a masterpiece, greatest book ever written.

Speaker 13 (01:35:25):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
There's been a bit of a well tete a tay
between a couple of musicians and one of them, who
I think is Christian. Seems to be Christian friendly from
some things that I've heard him say and saw a
video of him, you know, kind of thanking the Lord
and all that. Jelly rolls between Forest Forest Frank and
jelly Roll, jelly rolls losing some way. He's not a
big of a jelly roll as used to be. He

(01:35:51):
seems to be kind of tramming up a bit. But
there was a bit of a debate tet to tab
between him on music, money and faith, and it's kind
of kind of blown up on the internet and hit
the hit the news wires. Country star questioned why Forest
Frank rejects awards but accepts profits from worship songs because

(01:36:11):
he writes a lot of worship songs. This's been reported
by Stephanie Young ponin by This is Fox News, by
the way, But Forest Frank's trying to set the record straight.

Speaker 7 (01:36:25):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
After Country superstar jelly Roll publicly questioned why he would
reject Christian music awards while still profiting from worship songs,
Frank took to the too his Instagram account to clarify
his stance. He may agree or disagree, but here's what
we said. In the video. Frank shared Instagram Tuesday. He
said he initially hesitated to speak publicly because I didn't
want to bring any unnecessary drama. I get that, but

(01:36:49):
attention from news outlets prompted him to respond because you
know they, oh, look, you know the news media. Does
they want to stir up a good uh, you know,
a good a good fist fight, don't they? Forest Frank
and He's been performing live at places like co Cola
Coliseum in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and Rose performing his post

(01:37:11):
Malone supporting act in recent days, even though he's more
of a country guy. But he gave a pretty much
faithfilled response to Jilly Rolls controverse. He said, quote all
I'm going to say to you, Jelly, is I love
this question. This is the question that kept me from
making Christian music for so many years because I didn't
want to make a business out of worship music. I

(01:37:32):
didn't want to make a business out of Jesus. Now,
Jilly Rold's original comment to Frank, won't receive trophy for
something from Jesus from Jesus for Jesus, but will take
the profits from something from Jesus for Jesus. Maybe I'm
missing something here Hello. Well, for Frank's hesitation, he acknowledged
held him back for years, but eventually he believed God

(01:37:53):
urged him to share his music, especially with this song
quiet Time, which he said he wrote and produced himself. Quote,
legally that money comes to me, What I do with
that money after it legally comes to me? I'm never
going to tell anybody because your left hand isn't supposed
to know from your right hand. And let me interject
some stuff. Here's someone who's been in the music business
off and on since I was about twelve, and I'm

(01:38:17):
a licensed songwriter publisher with BMI Music and all that.
So if churches, radio stations, your song gets in a movie, etc.
If that song is public and published in a license
than they typically are, there's licensing entities the biggies are

(01:38:39):
going to be asked at BMI. Well, you also have
Sound Exchange on the Internet for Internet type of things.
And then you have CEASAC, which does an awful lot
of music that happens to be church music or religiously
not not exclusively, but they do a lot of that.
So churches are supposed to report their playlist at the

(01:39:01):
worship band plays supposed to report that a lot of
them don't, but they're supposed to to places like see
Second other licensing entities, and they pay these royalties. Okay,
well you get a little piece of that. You're paid out.
So if you have a hit worship song on you know,
I don't know, K Love or some Christian radio station
or whatever, or Christian song, what have you, then in

(01:39:24):
six months, a year whatever, you start getting the royalty checks. Okay,
as a songwriter, as a publisher, whatever you ow in
the publishing, the songwriting royalties at sertainy. These are royalty checks,
and they legally have to be reported, and they legally
have to cut them and send them to you. Okay,
that's how that works, part of the copyright laws of
the United States. So you're getting a check on one

(01:39:44):
or not. I guess it's kind of what he's saying.
So then, of course what you do with it is
your business at that point more or less. But apparently
he's sort of suggesting here that maybe I pocket ten
percent of it, maybe I give away percent it, maybe
I give away ninety percent. You know, he's thinking, Look,
it's my business. I get that. Frank concluded his message

(01:40:06):
and extended an olive branch to Jelly Role, reaffirming support
and spiritual unity. He added, I might give ninety percent
of my money away, I might give ten percent of
my money away somewhere in between, but y'all never going
to know, because that's my relationship with Jesus, between him
and the Lord. In other words, by all others conversation
and willing to be refined in any area. Frank concluded

(01:40:26):
by extending an olid branch to Jelly Role, reaffirming support
and spiritual unity, said, anyway, I'm just stoked by this comment.
This is in other words, he's not getting mad about it.
He's using as an opportunity to, you know, explain himself
and extend a hand of friendship to Jelly Roll. He said,
this is something that I would love to figure out.
And in the meantime, I'm a safe place for you, bro,

(01:40:48):
whether that's on the phone or on here on social media.
I'm for you, bro. God is for you. He has
a plan for you. So that was more or less
his response to Jelly Roll on the whole thing. The
Christian music singer reiterated his message in his social media caption, writing,
we serve God, We serve God of Unity, and forgiveness.

(01:41:10):
His name is Jesus at jelly Roll or I think
it's sixty one five, and I got to hop on
the phone recently and we are good. Actually, in my head,
we were never not good. I love these questions and
I don't think we should ever shy away from them
as believers unquote. Converts began, of course, after Frank announced
that he would no longer accept awards for his Christian music,

(01:41:33):
citing personal conviction. Other words, he's not gonna go to
dove wards and I get that. Last week, Frank shared
a video on Instagram explaining his decision not to attend
award shows or accept trophies for music he considers from
Jesus and for Jesus. Joe Well then made that comment
question when he viewed as a contradiction. But anyway, it
looks like they've kind of worked it out and that's cool.

(01:41:54):
And I've seen jelly Roll saying some things that seemed
to be pretty pretty pro Christian, and it seemed to
perhaps hint at a a genuine spiritual relationship maybe with
him and the Lord. I hope so for his own sake,
he seems to be He's definitely not down almost all
those folks from what I can tell all as far
as like things, I've heard him say, Uh, you never

(01:42:17):
know know about anybody's heart in full only the Lord does,
but seems like he certainly certainly leans in that direction
if he's not already there. So I hope that, you know,
And maybe this is a chance for for some discipleship
from from Forrest Frank, perhaps towards Jelly Roll if that's

(01:42:37):
what's needed, or maybe the way around. Who knows, But
I'm glad they sorted that out. And there the media
was hoping for a big you know, mud wrestle and
it didn't happen. Well haha. That's always good when the
main stink media gets gets foiled in their plans, isn't it?
As much as I pick on the main stink media,

(01:42:58):
So I call him the main stink media, the main stinkers,
And they're always trying to kick up a stink, aren't they.
They're always They're always about all that. So some nice
news there, and that kind of dovetails into what I
want to say in terms of this show. I've never
done this show for the money. Do I make money
at it?

Speaker 6 (01:43:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
Is it enough for me? Just to kick back and
live off of completely no, never has been, maybe never
will be. And most broadcasters don't enjoy that. Most broadcasters
of other streams of income, some of you might actually
be rather eyebrow raise it. How little I'd make off
this show actually, even though the audience is growing. I'm

(01:43:40):
ranked according to or it was last month. I don't
know where I'm at now, but was ranked last month
towards the beginning of this month, whatever it was according
to one ranking organization was ranked domestically here in the
US that ranks podcasts in a Christian category was ranked
a number four out of one hundred, well forty four

(01:44:02):
out of fifty really in the top Christian podcasts in
the United States. That ain't bad. That ain't bad. And
in fact, I've got some folks pounding on the door
a little bit that want to get guests on here.
We're gonna get some guests on here. That's coming up
in the near future. I've got some very cool guests
coming on. One I haven't had on a long time,

(01:44:23):
been too long to not have him on. And speaking
of music, he's a musician himself and actually goes way
back to the sixties when he was a teenager in
a particular band which all the name was, but had
a huge hit, kind of a novelty hit, but a
big hit song. It still gets played in the Christmas
version of that song that still gets played all over
the place. And he's got a workout, he's got to

(01:44:47):
see these and things out too. We'll talk about that.
We'll get him on, but I'm just teasing it here.
Probably get him on sometime next month. Well maybe telling
of this month first part next month. I won't try
to get him on if we can make it happen,
because I think he's got a real cool, real cool
something for Christmas coming up, So we're gonna try to
get him on here pretty quick. But he's a great guy.
He's Christian, and the music is back in the days

(01:45:09):
when it was kind of dark and sketchy. A lot
of crooks were and a lot of crooks are still
in it. I got news for you. Well look what
happened to p Diddy. But it looked that the Bible
says of labor is entitled to his to his wages.
So I don't have a problem with personally with Frank
getting his getting a check. I don't have a problem

(01:45:33):
with that, and I respect where he's at about the
whole award show things. I'm kind of with him on
that myself, kind of great with him on where he's
coming from, really coming the same category. So I get it.
And back when I was doing Christian music a little
more full time and had CDs, I was, you know,

(01:45:54):
out there and so forth. The way we would do it,
it's kind of way Keith Green did it. It was like, look,
if you can pay for the city paid for it,
and here's what it costs. If you can't, then give
me what you can. You can't give anything to take one,
but take only one. It's free. The Lord will take
care of me, and you always did. Gang the bunker

(01:46:15):
that the lovely missus Ellen and I live in. I'm
going to say this as a praise to the Lord,
not to ourselves. I don't have a mortgage on it.
It's paid for. How many people can say that, So
the Lord's blessed me, Lord's blessed us. And we've always
had that. I mean, I've always had that attitude. I've
always had that attitude. Now again labor's and child his wages.

(01:46:41):
Paul talked about this. He said, look, I have my
own tent making business, so I'm not taking a check
from the churches. I'm paraphrasing, he said, But Peter does,
and that's cool either way. You know, Peter does get
supported by the church, by his fellow christ And he said,
you know, either way, that's cool. He was more con

(01:47:04):
turned about where's your heart about it? Are you doing
it just to make money? Because there were people in
his day, even though they didn't have TV and radio,
there were still you know, preachers and Christians in his
day that were doing it for you know, to make it.
They turned it into a business. Even in his day,
even in the early days of the church, there were
hustis after trying to make a business out of this
whole thing and doing it strictly for that. And that's

(01:47:25):
not cool either. That's not cool either. In fact, I
heard a theologian say one time that Christianity started in
Palestine as a relationship, moved to Greece, became a concept,
moved to Italy and became an institution, moved west, you know,

(01:47:47):
to the Americas and so forth, and became an enterprise
of business, became a business, and they were in Lize.
Some of the problem. And I'm not saying a person
who worked diligently for the Lord should you know, be
living in a trash can and or in a cardboard
box on the side of the road. Because Scripture also

(01:48:08):
says that I've never seen the righteous forsaken or to
seed begging bread. But that doesn't mean you're necessarily going
to live in a mansion either, Okay for some of
the prosperity people, and in fact, Scripture says that it
indicates that some of have been called to be poor,
and some of those are those that work for the Lord.
I mean, most of the apostles weren't making a bunch

(01:48:29):
of money, you know, and they were all h except
for the original twelve. They were all executed except for
the apostle John John, the revel lator. I believe it's
the same person, and they try to kill him, but
you know, it seemed to so they just put him
on this is of Patmos to rot. And instead of

(01:48:50):
rotting and dying and in this prison farm on Patmas
breaking rocks or whatever they were doing, or sitting in
a jail cell just you know, half starving, he gets
a book of revelation. You know, Lord, it's like, I
ain't done with you yet, I'm gonna give you. So
it's like, can you imagine they were probably like this
guy gets a book. We wanted him to die and

(01:49:13):
God gives him a book called Revelation, no war. I
mean if I think the Romans just said, you know,
I just whatever, it's just give up. So it's your
attitude on how you approached them. Yeah, I'm not making
a ton of money at this thing. I'm really not.
Uh some of you would probably be shocked at a
little I'm making. That's and that's not and that's not

(01:49:35):
a trash against the Lord. It's just you know, the
Lord's got o their revenue streams for me and I'm okay.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
And the house we live in is not a mansion,
but it's a decent sized house. It's decent from me
and the lovely missus Allen. And I've got company here
right now, actually, uh, daughters here, father in law's here,
and we got plenty of room for everybody. Okay, we're
not in each other's.

Speaker 7 (01:49:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
You know, we got two bathrooms, which one You've got
two ladies in the house. Uh, normally there's only one,
but now they've got two you know, you know that
goes guys that I think we get a little tied
upretty quick. Let's go to a quick break and then
we'll come back.

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Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
Well, it's certainly a lot going on in the world around.
There's a lot to be praying about and praying for
at least a lull in the action there in the Middle,
least at least in terms of how it evolves Israel
if nothing else but hopeless with the whole place. But
h and again I do fall back on EXeCO thirty dight,
which seems to show Israel in a pretty good spot
at that moment of Cohich you can read Ezcal thirty

(01:52:34):
eight and seah it works out. It doesn't work out
real well for Huh, the armies of Russia, Turkey, Uh, Syria.
I think Libya is probably thrown in there Iraq and
some of the Russian so called satellite republics and little
nations and places that join in, and who knows there
maybe some other Eastern European folks who jump in on that.
But but the gang that's coming against uh Israel at

(01:52:56):
that time, in the EXeCO thirty eight, they get trounced
pretty good, really bad actually in the end, so it
doesn't work out real well, and supernaturally the Lord steps
in and you know, the forces of Gagamaga are just
you know, they're wiped out. So again we can read
the back of the book, no know how it ends,

(01:53:16):
and Jesus finally says that's enough when he returns. But
until then there's going to be and there will be
that lull, and maybe this is the beginning of that law.
I don't know. I hope pray it is. It may
not be, okay, this could be just a tiny lull
and then we're gonna be brought back at it. I
don't know. I really do feel that Israel's not gonna
put up with much more. I mean, if a mass

(01:53:38):
does break this peace agreement, I think they really all
just signed their own death warrants. I think Israel just say,
you know what, enough, we're coming in and taking the
whole place over and all you guys are gone. Tick.
So I don't know, this could go different ways. So
you know, ultimately the lords will be done, but a

(01:53:58):
lot to pray about. I wouldn't freak out about any
of this for you know, for any reason. As Christians,
we have the confidence of knowing how this thing ends. Okay,
we can see the end of the story. The Lord's
been generous enough to let us see the end. And
he could have withheld it and said, you know, you're
just gonna move by faith in this whole thing and
you know, leave it up to me to work it
out and it's none your business. But he gave us

(01:54:20):
the end of the book, okay, So we know how
the story ends. He's already told us, and it's a
good ending, okay. And in the end to you know,
he wins and his team wins and Satan's team loses,
and you know that's that final final, you know, final
tality at the scoreboard. That's how it works out. Okay.

(01:54:42):
So we have that hope, we have that joy and
that hope that it all works out. It scriptures that
everything works out for good, for them that love the Lord.
And Chris. You know God always wins in the end.
He always wins. You know you're on his team. You're
a winner. That's the way it works, So keep that

(01:55:02):
in the back of your mind. Gotta go. Be sure
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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