Christian Talk That Rocks with Richie L Ep 10/29/2025

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Start secrets five four three two words.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now get in. I'm a discussion. Now blinds are now
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out in podcast format of course, plenty plenty plenty to

(02:06):
get into lots of sound clips I want. I think
we're an eleven. I want you to hear. Let's talk
about the shutdown meltdown that is still going on now.
One of the deadlines it's fast approaching. This would be Wednesday,
the twenty ninth of October. If you're listening live or
maybe post recording, or if you're listening to day later,

(02:27):
it doesn't matter. But as of the time of this
particular broadcast, that's the date now November one, Saturday, This
Saturday is the deadline for funding and Snap is saying, well,

(02:48):
there's no supplemental funds that we can allow me by
law tap into. So once well we have in the
I guess, and their general fund goes out, that's end
of it. That that that's that's that I'm going to
touch on something here a little later on this show.

(03:08):
That that speaks right now of how our government is
funded or not funded, as the case may be. Okay, So,
because I know some of yours senire thinking, you know,
I pay a lot in taxes, what's the what's the
deal here? And we're getting tariff money and et cetera,
et cetera. What is going on? Well, there's there's something

(03:31):
going on, and we'll get into that in a bit.
But there are a lot of people posting on social
media that well, as soon as as soon as my
SNAP benefits run out, and so I'm already doing it.
I'm just going to steal groceries. Now, I understand that
there's forty two million Americans that receive some sort of

(03:53):
SNAP benefits. That's a supplement nutrition assistant program if you're
wondering food stamps and what the US call it. But
you've got about forty two million Americans, roughly about one
sixth well probably not one six let's say, what do
you say that hasn't been well, probably about it, probably

(04:16):
about one eighth or so, one ninth, one eighth, one
ninth of the population of this country who who has
to get some kind of supplement on there because they
don't make enough in order to afford to buy food. Well,
there's a problem there anyway, for sure, but it's a

(04:40):
problem that cuts different directions. But what these folks are
saying is they're gonna go ahead and just steal the
stuff and for storage where the security is a little
too tight for them to get away with it. What
they're gonna do is way down the parking lot just
start stealing groceries from I don't know, Grandma, I don't know,
but they're gonna start stealing groceries out of people's carts
after they paid for it. I'm all to cheer some

(05:01):
clips in a moment, but let me let me share
some a couple of articles with you before we get
into that. And again, the uh, the Snap folks are saying, well, this,
this is gonna this is gonna create a problem because

(05:24):
there's just there's just not enough money in the in
the system there the SNAP benefit system too to afford
to pay folks just just isn't gonna happen. Uh. Now,
the Trumpster has said that he's going to be value
to get it done on SNAP before this deadline. Speaking

(05:46):
portted by Charlie McCarthy Newsmax, President Donald Trump assistant, we're
gonna get it done. After being asked about funding for
the Supplement Nutrition Assistance program during the Democrats government shutdown.
While speaking with reporters at board Air Force One on Wednesday,
Trump was told that the Department of Agriculture said it
did not have contingency funding for SNAP after Saturday's deadline.

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He said, we're going to get it done. Well, okay,
he says, Democrats have caused the problem. Unfortunately. All they
have to do is sign, and if they sign, I'll
meet with them. Trump then linked the SNAP impass to
broader negotiations over healthcare, suggesting a deal could emerge once
Democrats agree to reopen the government. He said, we have

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to fix health care because Obamacare is a disaster. He said,
when you see the increases in Obamacare, it never worked,
it never will work. And we could do something with
the Democrats much better than Obamacare, less money and better
health care. President of that insurance companies are making too
much money and call for bipartisan talks, wants to shut
down ends. Of course, I think it's a great time

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for Republicans and the Democrats to get together and make
something that will work. He said. SNAP provides food assistants
to roughly forty two million lower income Americans each month.
The programs futures and jeopardy because federal appropriations have not
been improved amid the shutdown, which is due to Democrats
refusing to vote for a clean continuing resolution. The usde
website says without any new funding, benefits cannot be paid.

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Warning quote at this time, there will be no benefits
issued November. First Department said it's a five billion dollars
in contingency funds cannot be used for SNAP as those
dollars are reserved for disaster and other schol nutrition programs.
Now that allegedly is per law. Democrat led states have
sued the Trump administration, claiming the USDA is legally obligated

(07:34):
to use contingency funds to cover the lapse. But White
House countered that over forty million Americans face the risk
of losing critical SNAP food benefits because Democrats have prioritize
political games over the needs of American people. Unquote, well
they're both playing games, let's be honest. But so that's
the backdrop to all this. That's a backdropp to all this.

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Let me let you hear some clips here, this being
part about Jo Kovac's Worldnit Daily Get out there and
a ravish woman out of foodstamp shows off stolen goods,
urges others to steal it will and infiltrate churches for cash.
Infiltrate churches for cash. Four weeks into the federal government

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shut down, a woman claiming she's out of food stamps
will actually sits you in at twenty bucks left is
breaking on line about stealing from a grocery store while
urging others to steal it will and infiltrate churches to
get cash. Now, the woman who goes by Consira conspiracy
qt and has a user name of I'm gonna try

(08:42):
this it's a La Golden Attitude posted her illegal shop
lifting exploits on social media using extremely graphic language. And
I've done a lot of bleeping here, So let me
let you hear her and two other people who agree
that sealing from grocery stores is the thing to do

(09:02):
at this point in time. And what one man said
is going to happen if somebody tries to steal groceries
from his grocery card as he's taking him through the
parking lot to his car. Let me let you hear
all these and this potentially could be sitting up for
a lot of violence if we're not careful, this could
be setting up for a lot of violence. Although I

(09:22):
have sat on the show for some time, if the
federal government goes broken off and the benefits don't go out,
there will be violence. I have said that there are
people who are so dependent upon government subsidies, government supplements,
government this, and government that, and becomes so government dependent. Okay,

(09:43):
our federal government has veered itself into things that does
not really have constitutional authority to be of me doing anyway.
I would refer you to Furderlist forty eight. I'm sorry,
Furdles's forty five, Federalist seventy eight, et cetera. There's a
lot of others. I did a whole show on this,
not a whole show, but a part of a show
on this go back on this Narchives several weeks back

(10:04):
about government dependency and how we've got to learn to
get off of it in this country. And the government
has veered into things that it does not does not
have constitutional authority to be involved with. Now, if the
states want to do it, that's a different story, because
the states do have a tenth Amendment, do have some
some sovereignty. In fact, I want to let you hear
a piece from or a clip actually from Constitutional attorney

(10:27):
Chris Ann Hall on this. I've talked about it before too,
but just to hear another voice besides mine rattling on
because something thing, well it's a still crazy rich yell
rattling on And here's interpretation, concience, No, it's it's what
it says and what it is. We'll get into that
a little bit later. But I want you to hear
these folks and what they're saying and suggesting and suggesting,

(10:47):
and that they have the right to do it and talk.
And we talk about it an entitlement, right, And these
are younger folks, all right. These are younger Americans that
believe they have an entitlement to if they can't afford it,
by golly, they can just go out and steal it
from you or whoever they feel that they need to
steal it from that that is justified. But this is

(11:09):
what they've been spoon fed by media, by the educational system.
These are the socialists, Communist, Marxist monsters that have been created,
all right. They have been created over the years in
part by folks yammering in our governments are our local governments,
our state governments. Politicians and our local governments, our state

(11:30):
governments and our federal governments have created government dependents and
entitlement monsters. Now you think that the Halloween is the
only time of year for monsters, You're going to be
seeing a lot of monsters probably during Halloween and after Halloween.
If this goes off according to what's not planned but

(11:51):
planned by these folks, it's going to be a rough weekend.
And there are people talking about they aren't even going
to go to grocery stores. Don't nesscessarily blame them. Let
me let you hear this clip. It's actually several clips
sewed together. I've had to edit them in terms of
not what they're saying, but bleeping stuff out because it's
pretty foul mouthed rant by these folks. And then at

(12:16):
the end, some guys saying, here's what's going to happen
if you try to grab groceries from my car as
I'm walking through the parking lot to go to my car.
And I think he's pretty serious. And I think a
lot of parking lots could be looking like the OK
Corral before it's over with. And I expect some of
these folks you are going to be stealing food are
gonna be doing it at gunpoint. And I expect there's
gonna be some folks shooting back. So if we're not careful,

(12:37):
so this weekend could be very deadly and violental around
the nation. Is this what the Democrats want? Is this
what the Republicans want? Let me let you hear these clips.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Here we go, how you guys, I'm out of the store.
So they wanted seven dollars for this, Mind you, I
don't have food stemps anymore. They cut me down. Only
had twenty two dollars left in food stamps. So this
is what I stole. Okay, they wanted nine dollars for this,

(13:20):
I said, Then they wanted Then they wanted two dollars
for this. They wanted Sorry, is all has been in
my first seven dollars for this. I'm making some stuff
salmon today. These are needed. I'm making seven dollars. Okay,
let me show you the most important thing to me.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Short ribs.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Take off the label so that you.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Don't How many do you think that I got get
trouble packages and short ribs?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
How many short ribs is that? And can I be
real more? Y'all should have started taking shit from the
corporations a long time ago. Y'all just didn't have that
your mother phones. Get out there and get in the
mother Feel like I've told you everything. Y'all here is yours,
whether or not you take it.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
They call that shit you will.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
I call that imminent domain. You know what I'm seeing?
One thing I learned from the white men.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Take it?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Why take it? I don't give a who's already sitting there.
I don't give if your land was already established. It's
mine now and I want it. That is what we
should be preaching in the land to the masses. Act
more like a white man. Take it for yourself, and

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you won't be worried about who don't got it. You
see what I'm saying, Get out there.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
And ride it shut.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's been not at least going that church and infiltrate.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Don't be stupid.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Get in there, ask them for some rent money, Ask
them for some help. You've been tithing, Say your lights
is off, you need a stipend, you need some food.
Go to the church.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
That's for help.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
If the pastor don't help you, out blast them on
social media. Quickest way to fil up the church's money
is ask for some.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Go do it.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
See what you get, report back to let me know.
If the church doesn't help you after all those times
you gave, well, go ask for your times back. See
if they can give you a donation form and they
can just redonate your money.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
Back to you.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
See if they can do that.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
If they can't, I want you to come back under
this post and give me the reason why they said
they cannot reimburse you back the money you and your
family have given to them for years. Also why they
can't help you.

Speaker 9 (15:55):
Let me know.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Look.

Speaker 10 (15:57):
In light of the government cutting snap benefits November first,
I want to remind everybody.

Speaker 9 (16:02):
That stealing is never wrong.

Speaker 11 (16:05):
Stealing from multi billion dollars is always okay.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
If not encouraged.

Speaker 10 (16:12):
Right five finger discount, It's the best discount you could
ever get. Five finger disc.

Speaker 12 (16:18):
Okay, so they're supposed to be cutting your food stamps
off next month, right, so y'all gonna go steal? Let
me know if y'all gonna go steal because they cut
your off, let me know who I could go steal
with y'all because.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
They can never give me.

Speaker 9 (16:31):
How about that?

Speaker 12 (16:32):
Let's band together and take these mother markets down? You
feel me because I'm just as frustrated. I'm just as
angry and.

Speaker 13 (16:41):
And honestly just as broke.

Speaker 12 (16:43):
So if y'all gonna go not once they take y'all stamps,
put me in the same coach because I need that.

Speaker 8 (16:50):
So you're gonna steal my basketball the growth for you
after I leave the store?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, I don't think so, Hilarium.

Speaker 14 (16:57):
I'm seeing a lot of videos, don't matter how people
see beat getting cut off and so they're gonna be
stealing groceries straight out of the store. But I've also
seen a lot of videos talking about how people are
gonna grab baskets whenever they come out of the store.
That way, they're not stealing from the store, they're stealing
from an individual. Well, you grab my shopping cort full

(17:18):
of groceries that I've bought and paid for with my money,
and you're gonna hear two sounds. They're gonna be three sounds.
Maybe there's certainly going to be two sounds. The first
sound you're gonna hear me saying, now, han, that's a
bad idea. There better walk on. If you don't walk on,

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that would be the next sound you hear. And the
third sound, son, I'll hear it. You won't, no, sir,
I'll hear it, and you won't.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
Now, people are gonna come back on this video and say,
oh you then somebody over a basket full of groceries.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, I would be.

Speaker 8 (18:02):
Right, because the person's deciding to steal from me, they've
already decided that that's what their life is worth.

Speaker 15 (18:11):
Well, they made that decision, they made that choice.

Speaker 9 (18:16):
You don't steal from me, run and find out.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I think he means it. And here's the problem. This
is probably what's gonna happen. Uh. If we're not careful,
there's gonna be there's gonna be bloodshed. It's gonna get
weird at stores. I'm sure security will be heightened, but
you know, if somebody comes in or a mob comes in,

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weapons and guns and blazing, what a you gonna do?
So this is sort of reaching critical mass, and there's
a lot of ya who's out there too, that are
ready for a target rich moment that they can open
up their weapons that they've been hoarding back and their AMMO.

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And then of course there's a lot of preppers saying,
I told you so now. I have urged a certain
level of preparation on this show for a long time,
and I hope that you are and have done it already,
because it after this weekend, it might be a little tougher,
but hopefully you have prepared. You've got stuff stuck back,

(19:26):
You've got water stuck back, You've got necessity necessary supplies
stuck back, enough food to last at least a few weeks,
maybe not a few months. Now. I'm not one of
these kind of preppers that says you need to have
a bunker to dive into with, you know, ten thousand
rounds of AMMO and fifteen machine guns and bazookahs and

(19:46):
grenades and rocket launchers and twenty five years of food.
That's you know, that's a bit much. But we should
have home defense weapons and equipment. We should have if
you're legally to have them. We should have you know,
you should have yourself stocked with that. Should have some
cash on hand. You should have some can't get your

(20:07):
bank if there's a run on banks. If if you have,
you know, some foods stuck back. Non perishables okay, if
electricity happens, go off, power grid goes down. Non perishables,
things that don't need refrigeration or that have a long
shelf life, you know, usually dried foods or sometimes dried meats.

(20:29):
Kind of jerk. You can make your own. You can
get one of these food dehydrators. I've got one. You
can make your own stuff. Familiar with certain things you're
still growing even this time of year that you can
that are if that's in your yard, go for about
two or three weeks without cutting your yard. If you
neighborhood association, you won't have a heart attack. Hopefully you're
living a neighborhood that doesn't have one of those. You'd
be amazed at what's in your yard. You can eat
field greens that grow naturally. You have golden rod, different

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kinds of parsleys that grow naturally, all sorts of stuff,
good King Henry, what else is kind of I think
of my neck of the woods with grows. No golden
rod does. You've got a dand alliance crisis time, they're
pretty much out of there. But you do have certain
things that you can eat. If you need vitamin C
and you live in an area that's got pine trees,

(21:16):
blah blah, these are the best, but almost any pine
tree with long needles will work. It's old Native American trick.
You pull those needles off, you put them in a cup,
you boil them while instant vitamin C rich in vitamin
C so you don't get scurvy. You can drink it
and it's actually not too bad. It's like a tea.
It's actually good for what ails you if you got

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a cold, sonus infection, sore throat, look, congestion in the
old lungs. It's an old Cherokee Native American trick. So
there's a lot of stuff out there. There's survival. You know,
hopefully you familiarize yourself with things in case you really
you know, hits the fans, as they say, but please,
I hope and pray that you have done your prepping.

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You maybe got a couple of days left to do
that a little bit, but you know, stuff's gonna be
flying off shelves or getting snatched off shelves, as the
case may be. So please do what you got to
do to protect yourself from your family. I'd probably stay away,
maybe from grocery stores the next few days, unless you
just got to go. Could be a little wild West.
She let's hope not. But you know, this stuff is

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all over the country. When people get hungry, and they
got hungry kids, they're gonna get desperate. Churches should be
hopefully open and available to help folks out. Actually, I'd
say a lot of these in terms of in terms
of Christians having to get on food stamps, in terms
of Christians having to get help from the government's it's
actually a diamond on the church. I've harped and harped

(22:42):
in harp for years that churches need to be quit
putting so much emphasis on the sound system in the
church building. You need to be putting emphasis on the
people in the building and preparing for these times. And
you are your brother's keeper. If there's somebody in your

(23:02):
church that's falling on hard times, is gentlemanly hungry, not
because they're goofing off and doing drugs and acting stupid. Well,
then okay, then you're gonna go hungry. It's called the
price you pay for sin. You're experiencing some distant judgment.
But if you're doing what you need to be doing.
You know, you are working a gig or two and
doing the best you can, but you're still having a

(23:24):
rough time making is meet, then yes, the Church needs
a step in for you and help you if you
are a member of the body of Christ. And that's
the priority of giving. Scripture says gift to all men,
but it says especially to those of the household of faith.
So the party of giving is to the saints. In
fact one Grientthey chapter sixteen, verse one, Apostle Paul Refirst.
You now now concerning the contribution for the saints, for

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who the saints? For who the saints? That's what the
bulk of the contribution needs to be going towards, is
the Saints, not religious systems, not financing the buildings and
all the junk, all the tinkertories of religion. I've been
saying this for years that the church better have a
game plan that's a heck of a lot more first
century and biblical to take care of its own when

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it's owned genuinely and legitimately need taking care of, not
people builking the system or trying to work to gain
the system as this girl was suggesting. But this and
again it goes back to this whole tithening thing that
the church preaches, which is neither the Old Testament model
nor a New Testament model. It's a parascriptural model. And

(24:32):
I've gone into that ad noisy man, if anitom, please
go back and list the archives. Don't have time to
retread that today. But just understand that even even back
in the in the day, a big chunk of the
tie that win to feed the poor. It said that
there may be food in my house. So that's the
agricultural products, which is what they tie. They very rarely

(24:54):
ever tied money. It was almost always, you know, the
vast majority of the time it was food items. In fact,
the only time money was tied, there's really only one
time where they would tithe money is when it was
too the place to take the tithe was too far,
and the tithe it was too bulky, too much to
bring in and it was too far. Then you could
sell it converted to cash at about a fifth again
to it and then bring that in. But otherwise it

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went to the storehouse, so that there may be food
not cash. Food in my house. Cash money was always
free will offered. It was offered. Jesus looked at the
offering and saw what the widow put in. What he
was looking at the offering, not the tithe storehouse. Agricultural

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products is what was tithed. He told that the Fabisee
described as phrases you tithe mint dial in Kuman. Those
are agricultural products. There are seasonings, okay, and the tithe
was pretty much at tax on farmers okay. Money, except
for the one exception that I gave you, was never tithed,
nor was it encouraged to be tied in the New Testament.

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New Testament there's a different model of giving. In fact,
in the Old Testament model they probably arguably, well a
couple of years they would tie twenty percent, and then
the year of tie of the third year tithe of
tithing was probably thirty percent, I guess, so it's even
more than ten percent, to be honest. But again it
was agricultural products. But we're not under the law. There's

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a curse to be under the law, all right, we're
under a new covenant. We're under a blood covenant, actually
a sealed by the blood of the Lamb I E.
Jesus Christ. So churches need to be making sure that
their folks are taken care of first. Then we got
a little extra fine and help you know whoever else
walks in the door, I guess. But the primary bulk

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of giving again first Corientthia chapter sixteen, concerning the contributions
for the saints. Okay, the bulk of the bulk of
what's given needs to be given to the congregants who
are in genuine, legitimate need again, not somebody making the
system or kicking back and playing video games all day
because 're too lazy to work. Let those folks go

(27:02):
a little bit hungry, my Bible says, let whom we
not work not eat. Okay, if you're doing the best
you can and you know, working a job or two
and still can't make ends me, okay, that's that's something different.
At least you're trying. But if you're not trying, oh well,
then yeah, go hungry. Let your ache and belly be

(27:23):
a motivation to get you to work, do something to
earn a living. Okay, to get a job. I mean,
not be the career path you want, but I've been there.
I've done a lot of jobs at stank. But I
did it because I had bills to pay, and you know,
I wanted to have a little food on my tummy.
So you do what you got to do that's legally

(27:44):
moral and ethical to earn a living. And that's just
that's just the way it is. That's how it works.
But we have an entitlement generation. It feels like they
are old. There was a lot of entitlement there, a
lot of twisted thinking. But where did it come from?
Mainstinc media, politicians, the educational system making these folks think

(28:08):
that they are entitled. If and if somebody, the government
or somebody doesn't give it to them, then they'll go
out and steal it rather than earn it. They're gonna
go out and take it from somebody, because by god,
they're entitled. We're gonna do like the white man did. Okay, Well, yeah,
there were white settlers that did that stuff, you know,

(28:28):
one hundred and fifty two and fifty years ago. But
we're past that now. We're past all that now, and
that's not how things flow and roll and operate. And
two wrongs don't make it right. These people's minds, it
doesn't matter. But this is the mentality of folks that

(28:49):
are out there. Uh, some of these folks better be
careful because they're going to roll up on the wrong
the wrong vato. That's you know, they might show up
to a gunfight with a knife, or they might show
up to a gunfight with a smaller gun and somebody's
got a bigger one. I mean, you know, it can happen,
and this is not a good scenario. But this is

(29:09):
exactly what the socialists, communist Marxists who have infiltrated our
government and our institutions. This is exactly the moment that
they've been hoping for. This is it. And I'm gonna
let you hear something from a few years ago from
somebody who said, if they wanted to take over America
and really cripple out America, what that plan would look like. Furthermore,

(29:34):
we're going to take a look at what the Constitution
actually says in terms of Okay, government's shut down, you
know it shut down a fine, what can the states
do Because the states have some authority, some responsibility, and
some power to do some things on their own, and
they don't need permission from Uncle Samam. Uncle Sam was

(29:55):
actually taking upon itself too much power and helped create
this mess. There are a culprit in some of this.
I'm talking about the federal government and those running it,
because they veered away from the Constitution and have assumed
and taken upon themselves over the decades powers that the
Constitution does not grant. The federal government. Well, I was

(30:16):
going to talk about the seventeenth Amendment. Maybe it's time
for repealing of the seventeenth Amendment, which really messed up
the Senate. Although, as I have documented on this show,
the Senate doesn't necessarily have to have a part in
any of this. This is where the logjam is. But
per the Constitution, I've made it clear the Senate doesn't
necessarily have to have a part in this. It can

(30:38):
all begin an end with the House. Per the Constitution,
they alone hold the power of the purse, according to
the founders, and according to the Constitution, not the Senate.
It's the House. It says the Senate may confer, it
says the Senate may amend. They don't have to. It

(30:59):
doesn't say shall. The House can say we're not sending
this to you for anything else. We're done here, thank you.
That's fully constitutional. I've shared that portion in Article one
with you that basically says that. But this is a
game that the two parties play, both the Republican and
the Democrat Party, and they have this it's a poker

(31:21):
game that they play pretty regularly, and they're hoping that
they will make hay in the midterms, that somebody will
be blamed the most, punished the most at the polls,
especially by the people who are entitled and heha, we
get to stay in power. And it's a nasty, rotten
game that both of these parties play. Because we, the

(31:45):
sheeple of the United States of America, have handed the
keys over of our constitutional republic, which is what we are.
We're not a democracy. I mean, I don't care about
how many times are screaming on MSNBC or CNN or
Fox News or any other news channel. We are not
a democracy, never have been, never should be. We are

(32:07):
a constitutional republic. Yes, we utilize the tools of a
representative form of democracy to get things done, but that
sits under the umbrella, if you will, of a constitutional republic.
That is ultimately what we are so these people that
screen We need greater democracy, No, we don't. We've got

(32:31):
plenty and probably more than enough. Actually, let's take a pause.
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(34:49):
done voting for her party. That's been reported by Jason
Cohen Daily Call Her News Foundation. They have to get
together and stop holding Americans hostage. Pennsylvania Democrat, a Democratic
Sea SPAN caller on Tuesday said that she was by
the way, they don't like you singing a Democrat voter
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Democrat party. Democrats get real funny about that because it's
a reveal. That's why Pennsylvania a Democratic or Democrat a
se SPAN caller on Tuesday said that she was done
voting for Democrats amid dissatisfy. I know I'm picking on
the Democrats. Don't worry, I blast Republicans to everybody gets hit,
everybody gets a hit. Has said she was done voting

(35:35):
for Democrats and amid dissatisfaction with the party over the
ongoing government shutdown. Shutdown started on October first, after Democratic
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer rallied nearly all Senate Dems
to block a bipartisan funding bill. The caller suggested on
Washington Journal the Democrats should vote to end the shutdown,
particularly appearing to express concern about Americans potentially losing food aid.

(35:59):
On November one, she said, I'm well, I'll let you
hear the clip. We'll let you hear what she has
to say, and I think she probably speaks for a
lot of folks right now. The poll seem to suggest
there's there's about equal blame going around, but it may
be tilted a little bit more in against the Dems

(36:22):
according to some of the polls. Depends on which poll
you look at, but according to the polls, I'm singing,
I think a little bit more finger pointings going towards
the Dems and her pubs are both getting it, and
they both deserve it, frankly, but because again, this is
a stupid game that they continue to play time after time,
and if they would just follow the letter of the
law of the Constitution, we wouldn't be in this, in

(36:43):
this type of mess, in this type of way, I
think we'd still be in a mess, but not to
this extent. But let me let you hear this clip.

Speaker 17 (36:52):
In the Pennsylvania Democrats, and I would like to tell
my party in those that the American people voted for
to be sit in those chairs, that they need to
vote yes.

Speaker 16 (37:04):
This.

Speaker 17 (37:05):
And I don't know if everybody gets their news from
social media, but I have watched for the past couple
of days the YouTube and the people that are receiving
the benefits stating what their plans are. And I don't
want to be in the grocery store when this goes down.

(37:27):
I have a problem with my party, and I'm not
going to change my party. I just want to vote
for a Democrat.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
And I think she probably speaks for a lot of folks.
Is this a vision, shall we say? Of coming attractions?
What may be around the corner for the midterm elections,
which campaigning is already beginning in some places on that Now,
the voting won't happen to lab the first year for

(37:56):
these midterms. But is this a preview of coming attractions
of the midterms. I don't know, a lot of people
are looking at the election happening here in Virginia, which
is a purple state, if you will, it's not a
red state. I mean, it's not a blue state. It's
not what it's not a red state either, but it's
it's I would say, at best, it's a purple state.
With this race between Spanburger some people call her Spamburger

(38:21):
and when some seers, when some seers stands to be
the first black female governor and first generation immigrant in
United States history, and who's standing against her, an elite
white woman. Now again, I know, let's let the irony
of that so again if if if it were in reverse, uh,

(38:45):
Spanburger would be demonized all over the place. But Obama
stepped in to endorse her. I don't know, it's you know,
it's it's uh, it's it's one of those times where
you want to kind of test gravity and under if
you know, we went sideways into an alternate reality, but
we didn't, and that's not biblical anyway. And you've got

(39:08):
right now people who are pretty upset about the way
things are going out. A lot of unions, for example,
Pilot Unions Association call for a passage of a clean
CR to reopen government in the end of the shutdown.
This is being reported by Elizabeth Wible Breitbart dot com.
Several pilot unions and associations of issue statements calling for
the passage of a clean Continuing Resolution c R in

(39:30):
order to open the government and in the ongoing shut down,
we other little concerned because air traffic controllers ain't getting
paid right about now. Unions such as the Coalition, the
Airline Pilots Association, the CAAPA, net Jets Association of Shared
Aircraft Pilots, the Allied Pilots Association, and the Southwest Airlines
Pilots Association also known to swap Up, have issue statements

(39:53):
calling upon lawmakers as port of clean CR, which Democrats
have continued to oppose, and according to USA Today, statements
from the unions come as roughly third teen thousand air
traffic controllers are currently working without being paid and I
think it will last long. That will not last long,
And pretty soon you're gonna have enough air traffic controllers
in those in those towers to handle the air traffic

(40:13):
or and that's going to create some problems like wrecks
crashes which tend to be oftentimes on airplanes fatal. You know,
very few people walk away from an airplane crash. Some
do a lot don't. Well, we have seen the stress
intention this year on the national airspace system due to

(40:33):
short staffed air traffic controllers. The c APA said the statement.
According to the outlets shut down only compounds of pressures
they face as they now report to work without a paycheck.
And they're not gonna be doing that forever. And I
don't blame them. My Bible says the labors and Tyler
news wages and don't muzzle the ox, you know. In
a statement shared by the White House, Nick silvera President

(40:56):
and first officer of APA, stressed that Congress quote Congress
should reconven to work in a bipart of some manner
to pass clean continuing resolution of fund to reopen the government.
Quote Okay, so yeah, that's going down. There's also they're
also catching heat from the uh, government workers unions around
the country. In fact, Dick Durbin says AFGE union calling

(41:21):
for government shutdown inn has a lot of impact. He's like, well, yeah,
he's kind of standing up now listening to that. It's
being imported by Paul Boys Breitbart dot Com. Senator Dick Durbin,
he's from Illinois. Then, of course, the number two highest
ranking them in the US Senate recently admitted that the
American Federation of Government Employees union calling for an end
to the government shutdown could impact Democrats. You think they

(41:44):
tend to vote Democrat. Reporter Burgess, average Congressional Bureau chief
for Semaphore, announced on Monday that Durbin admitted the AFGE
e hold tremendous way over Democrats. Quote Senator Derbin, number
two Democrats, says AFGE calling for an endo the shutdown
has a lot of impact. Burgess announced on Exit's something

(42:07):
we will be discussing this week. I'm not announcing any
change in my position at this time. There are friends,
we take them seriously. Says he'd support bills to pay
snap and air traffic controllers. Well, hopefully the military too,
because they're kind of in the same boat. Some of
them are, although that's been changing. As Breitbart News reported
on Monday, the American Federation of Government Employees AFGE, the

(42:28):
largest union in the country representing federal employees, call for
the passage of for clean Continuing Resolution CR while calling
on lawmakers in the shutdown precisely what Republicans have continued
to call for and pass. Unquote Everet Kelly, afg e's
national president, rode in a post on Monday that both
political parties have made to their point and there's still
no clear end in sight. So kind of blame in

(42:51):
both both parties for this, for this mess. And it's
a game again that's played every year, just about every
other year, two years, three years. Whatever shut down talks
gain urgency, as demonstrutted through these as deadlines, union's pressure mounts.
Being reported again by Charlie mccarthik NEWSMAX, talks in the

(43:13):
government shutdown have reportedly picked up amid crucial deadlines and
mounting outside pressure. Nearly a month into the stalemate, the
vibes might finally be shifting. Political reported Wednesday as looming
food and aid cutoffs, travel lays, and calls from the
nation's largest federal workers union to reopen the government push
lawmakers towards a deal. By the way, I'm not a

(43:35):
fan of unionizing federal government workers. Never been a big
fan of unionizing anybody works on federal government. I think
they've picked up. Senate Majority Leader John Thune, Republican from
South Dakota, told Politico of bipartisan talks, the deadlines have
a way of doing that. Publican leaders, including House Speaker
Mike Johnson, believe mounting pressure may soon convince enough centrist

(43:57):
Dems to accept a short term funding measure, potentially by
in other words, of band aid by early next week.
Options under the discussion include temporary stop gaps that would
extend government funding through January to even March. So there's that, ah,
I'm not holding my breath. They may, they may. Dems

(44:23):
admit to weaponizing shutdown for leverage against GOP while Americans
feel the sting being imported by Candae Hathaway the Blaze
dot com the government's running through. These Democrats face mounting
pressure to pass clean and continuing resolution. DEM's narrative penny
blame for the government shutdown on Republicans or Donald Trump
is losing steam. Left Leaning lawmakers have openly admitted that

(44:44):
they are using the impending expiration of stamp benefits is
leverage against their GOP counterparts. This tactic has igniting significant
backlash even from those who typically align with them, including
CNN anchored Jake Tappram Will at hear that cliping a
bit and the American Federation of Government Employees. Who's winning,
who's losing? Well, one hundred percent America loses with this.

(45:07):
The fallout is increasing the pressure on Congressional Democrats to
work across the aisle to pass a clean continuing resolution
averting disruptions for snap recipients as benefits are set to
lapse this Saturday. Republicans control of the House, the Senate,
and the White House. Frankly, this is our only moment
of leverage. Senator Chris Coon's, a Democrat from Delaware, told
c SPAN on Thursday last week, and a reference to

(45:30):
the government shut down, Coons admitted that it was a
very unpleasant tool to use. Well, yeah, Senate Republicans called
Kon's comments absolutely deranged. Chris Coons. No, these people are
telling you who they are. Let me make it very clear,
and this isn't me saying yay vote republican. This is
me telling you what time of day it is and

(45:52):
calling a duck a duck. Marxists, communists, and socialists have
ensconced themselves over the years and they become a greater
in number within the Democrat Party. Okay, they do not
like limited government. They do not want limited government. They

(46:13):
want big, gargantuan government. They want as many people as
possible dependent upon government. Government is their god. You must
understand that government is their religion and their god. They
are for something our founders never imagine in their worst nightmares.
That's what they want, that's what they want. They want gargantuan, huge, expensive,

(46:42):
I was just expensive or thirty seven plus trellion dollars
in the whole. They want huge, expensive, gargantuan government to
carry you from cradle to grave, which is not what
our founders in vision nor what they handed us with
our constitution. They gave us a very limited government. James
Madison said. The power the authorities delegated to the federal

(47:03):
government are few and defined. It's a short list. These
guys want control over everything. They're power hungry, and they
don't care if you go hungry yourself. They don't care
if you go without, they don't care if you go broke.
You know, their attitude is let them be cake, because
that didn't work real well in the French Revolution. If

(47:23):
we ain't real careful, that's what we're gonna end up
with is something that looks more like a French Revolution.
If we're not careful, we don't learn from history, we're
destined to repeat it. She is a harsh task master,
but you've got idiots like Chris Coons who don't care
because it's all about party, you see, it's all about

(47:43):
keeping dims on the upper hand, and even if that
means you hurt. Republicans are about the same. They don't
care these parties. The majority of the people in both parties.
There's good people in both parties, but you can probably
count on a few hands. They are all about themselves

(48:04):
and keeping their party in charge. Their private club. And
that's what these are is two private clubs. Go look
at their websites. These are two private clubs that are
power hungry, that want to keep their gang in power
no matter who it hurts or who it crushes. Both
these parties are out of control, but we've let them. Well,

(48:28):
here was the two party shoes from says who. That's
what's evolved, that's what we've led of all the constitutions
require two party system. Here are people that really think that.
Who are that ignorant about the Constitution. I keep saying
that the bulk of our issues going on in this
country right now are due to two things, Biblical ignorance
and constitutional ignorance.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Both.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Here we sit, here, we sit when you toss aside
the instruction manual and it's five point forty five Christmas morning,
and you know the kids will be rousing in a
few minutes or an hour, and you're in the closet
and you've tossed the construction manual away because you think

(49:11):
you can put the bicycle together better without it. And
this bicycle is starting to look like a wheelbarrow. Well,
then something's wrong, right, because you were stupid and you
toss the instruction manual aside because you thought you could
do it. Now, this bicycle ain't gonna be ready for
Christmas morning. That's where we're at. Our politicians tossed the

(49:39):
instruction Manual, our constitution aside. Well, now we've got problems.
Well imagine that. Gee whiz, wonder why Scooter wonder why
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Too easy for you, you're.

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Put you here. An interview here just a second of
John Fetterman, Senator Fetterman. He is, uh, he's for reopening
the government. He's like, he's pretty much letting his fellow
Dems know, Okay, it's we made the point, let's go
let's you know, let's go ahead and sign on this
year and we can make this other stuff later and
get what we want later, but let's just get the
government back open. And that makes sense. And he's making

(52:26):
sense for once in his life. The guy is really
making some some literal sense. And I know he's making
enemies and he'll admit it in the damn party. He's
he's making some big enemies. But let me let your
a clip from him from an interview.

Speaker 20 (52:46):
Democrats have at this point. I mean, Whip Clark said
the only leverage left is the shutdown and working families
in order to get the GOP to fix Obamacare.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Where do we standing? Do you think right.

Speaker 21 (52:58):
Now that's just not I would ever you say, I'm
not going to describe the lives of millions of Americans
as like a euphemism as leverage. I mean, this isn't
a political game. I'm not checking about how it's polling
or who's gonna blink or whatever. You know, two million
Pennsylvanians are gonna lose their SNAP benefits, and I think

(53:19):
we should have them both at the same time. Open
this up. SNAP comes back, and then I believe we
can have an honest conversation with our colleagues on the
other side and develop those and extending those text credits.
You know, I think plenty of them are gonna want
this to have that conversation. Open up this governor a government,
because that's not leverage.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
This is a fail.

Speaker 20 (53:43):
Does it make the Democrats look bad? You think right now?
The optics of it, who's gonna I know, just.

Speaker 21 (53:49):
I think that's kind of where I'm at with that.
It's just like, open it up. I mean, this thing
has run its course. Let's just open this up again.
It's a failure. You now, who's winning, who's losing? Well,
one hundred America loses.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
With this, that's right, we all lose. And it's not necessary.
That's the thing. This isn't necessary. Now Listen, I'm for
our government getting control and it's spending big time. You will.

(54:23):
You'd be hard pressed to find anybody doing a podcast,
any talk radio anywhere who's more on board than I
am for our government needs to tighten his belt and
get this crazy spending under control. That just it's just
gone insane. But again, this is part and partial for

(54:44):
people who have a philosophy. Uh And again most of
them fall into somewhere in the socialist, communist Marxist camp
who want ever expanding, growing, gargantuan, monstrous h into every
crevice of your life government and not just on a

(55:04):
feral and will be on a state, on a local level.
And these people have no idea what our founders gave us,
and frankly could care less. And if they do have
an idea, they don't like it. They want huge government.
They don't want limited government, they want monstrous, gargantuan, controlling

(55:25):
every aspect of your life. Government, well, ladies and gentlemen,
boys and girls, trill of all ages. That's not liberty,
that's slavery. And you suddenly quit being a citizen and
start being a subject to government, a slave to government.

(55:47):
That's what you become. That's what we've become. That's where
we're headed. Some would say we're already there to some extent,
and I don't know that I could argue much with that,
but that wasn't what our founder's vision. I'm gonna let
you hear a clip in just a sec from Jake Tapper.

(56:07):
He kind of got into it on you know when
when Champer? When when when Tamper gets kind of up
your nose on something with his fellow Dems because he
leans that direction. I'll let you know where you're at.
That's kind of your canary in the coal mine. This
has been reported by uh Hannah Pendrick Fox News. A

(56:31):
scene in host clashes with Democratic lawmaker over government shutdown
and stamp funds and seeing it Host battles democratic lawmaker
was shut down a food Assisztens program. Jake tapperck in
front of Democratic Representative Melanie Stansbury, all the government shut
down on Tuesday and her party's stance, as she argued
the White House was choosing to starve children. You know,
it's all the Orange Man's problem. Everything, you know, every

(56:54):
sin on the calendar is the Orange Man's problem. And
there's people who truly believe that that every every single
thing that has gone wrong in society, in the world today,
in the universe. You know, it could be meteorite coming
as well. That's Trump's you know, it's the Orange Man's problem.
And it's getting silly. It's starting to get kind of weird.
I'm beginning to believe there is something to the Trump
Arrangement syndrome thing. I thought it's just, you know, it's

(57:15):
kind of a yes, But I'm starting to think maybe
for some folks it's it's a real it's a it's
a real thing. And if you guys listen to the
show long enough, I am no big flagwaiver for the
Orange Man. I've got some beats with him, but come on, now,
let's let's grow up, not be fifth graders or third
graders creating Boogeyman. But let me let you hear this clip.

(57:38):
This is a clash between Jake Tapper uh and representative
of Melanie Stansbury. Of course she she does the usual
tactic of filibustering, rolling over top of him, because you
know that the thing is, if somebody starts to confront you,
you just keep on rolling and roll over top of them.
That's what the politicians do nowadays. If you confront them,
you just roll over top of the host, run over
top of the interview, just keep on talking over top

(57:59):
of them and shouting and getting your voice louder and
so on and so forth, which is I find rather
rude and annoying. But that that's that's the filibuster game
that's played when uh you start to kind of pinning
these h slimy, slithery folks down. This is the way
they they tend to act. And Jake Taber is getting

(58:20):
a good taste of this. Good for Jake. I'm glad
Jake is he needs to understand who and what he's
been backing for years. Uh let me uh, let me
let you hear the clip.

Speaker 22 (58:37):
Let me be clear. The administration is choosing to starve
American children with money that they already have appropriate.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
The White House.

Speaker 22 (58:52):
This is a choice by the White House, also.

Speaker 23 (58:57):
A choice by Senate Democrats to not to open the government.

Speaker 9 (59:01):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 23 (59:02):
I understand why they're doing it. They're doing it because
they want Medicaid funds restored. They're doing it because they
want Obamacare premiums to be extended past the end of
the year.

Speaker 11 (59:11):
I understand the reason.

Speaker 22 (59:12):
I let me just be clear. The money for contingency
plans is sitting there. That is why the states are
suing the White Houses withholding funds.

Speaker 23 (59:21):
From two to three weeks worth of SNAP funds.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (59:24):
Yeah, well you may not be a big deal to you,
but it is a big deal to make the grandparents
for Grid, this is the big deal to literally are
feeding their children. My point is that it's a shorts accounts.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
It's a short term.

Speaker 22 (59:36):
At the end of the day, people need to be
able to feed their families. And Saturday is when those
funds feel so strong.

Speaker 23 (59:43):
Congresswoman, why not asking the Senate Democrats from New Mexico
to vote to open the government so that the SNAP funds.

Speaker 22 (59:52):
I am here in the House of Representatives. It is
shut down. I am fighting to get the government reopen.
I am fighting to get funding put back into SNAP
that has already existed. I am here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
That's what you get for enough on the Constitution here
see for me. I said, well, ma'am, this is what
you guys get for enough. Follow the constitution. What do
you mean when I find the Constitution? Well, I'll go
back and read very carefully Article one that the part
of the person is held solely by the House and
the Senate is is a may, not a shall. You
guys should never said this to the Senate and we
wouldn't be here. Well, you have to know you don't

(01:00:25):
go back and read the constitutions, or I would have
the copy of in front of me and read the
language to it where it used the word may, and
I would say, matter, representative, it's his mate. It doesn't
say shall. It's an option. You don't have to. But
you wanted to both both parties, both your colleagues, and
both parties wanted to, so this game can continue on.
I'd have nailed her, pardon my french, her highd end
of the floorboard. But this is why I never get

(01:00:48):
a gig any of these big networks, because you know
I don't play nice with politicians, and I've had a
couple on this show. I've asked some tough questions to uh,
in both party. So listen. Uh, Jake's right, Tapper's right,
and Uh, it's all game playing. This is this is

(01:01:11):
in a way, I'm glad this is all happening because
the mask is now coming off. We can see who
these people really are. And when they tell you who
they are, believe them, absolutely believe them. I want to
play something from constitutional attorney Chris Ann Hall. Uh, you
go to a website it's the three WS dot Well,

(01:01:33):
I'll spell her name out k R I S A
N N E H A l L dot com Chris
Ann Hall dot com. She's a constitutional attorney and loved
her on the show. She's a conscoutional attorney and a
constitutional expert. Teaches goes all around the country. Her her
and her hobby, who's actually a pastor. Uh, they go

(01:01:56):
around teaching constitutional stuff all around the country. They educate
law enforcement on certain things about the Constitution and their
duties and what their duties aren't aren't as the case
may be. And they do these seminars all over the nation,
educating people about the Constitution and constitutional rights, constitutional duties,
et cetera, et cetera, what the federal government can and

(01:02:17):
can't do, per our constitution. Let me let you hear
this clip from her before we go to break. I
wanted to air it because I think she's bringing up
some good points about the state's sovereignty and per the
Tenth Amendment, and that part of the reason we're in
the fix that we're in is because the federal government
has taken upon itself responsibilities constitution doesn't give it in

(01:02:40):
powers that the Constitution doesn't give it, and therefore is
trying to control and pay for everything all at once themselves,
when a lot of this really should be the purview
of the states and not the federal government anyway, and
the states should have contingency plans, frankly, in case the
federal government drops the ball. What you do all the
time to be able to deal with things as well.

(01:03:02):
Some states do, some don't, and you may you may
recall it hearing news reports where in some states or
they've got surpluses, they're gonna go ahead and fund snap themselves.
They're gonna go ahead and just pay for it out
of their own pocket and keep the thing rolling and
make sure that those that need it can get it,
or whatever other benefits that they need can get them

(01:03:22):
up to a point can't go on forever. But again,
why do we have so many people in this country
on food stamps to begin with, on SNAP assistance? To
begin with? What's the deal? So what is going on there?
And the abuses are abuses in the program? I know

(01:03:45):
of people who sell their food stamps to get money
to others. Plus there are there people swept down that
illegals are not on SNAP. Yes they are. I saw
it in Texas. I witnessed it. I saw it with
my tone two eyes. I witnessed them going into the
benefits departments down there and getting the stuff. I saw it.

(01:04:07):
Don't tell me that they're not. I've seen it personally firsthand.
They walk in with fake documents that they can buy
at the local flea market in Austin, Texas. Would walk
into the places with what were fake documents. They look
pretty good, goodenough for the clerk sitting there, and all
of a sudden they get all these goodies. Seen it,

(01:04:34):
seen the more than once.

Speaker 13 (01:04:41):
Hi, everybody, Chris Annhall here, you're constitutional attorney, and I
have a very important message to our sovereign states of
America and to our governors and legislators. The federal government
is once again shut down, and meanwhile the people of
your states suffered the financial an economic fallout of the

(01:05:02):
political theater in Washington, d C. I want to say
to you very seriously, this is your moment. Now is
the time to reclaim the authority that has always been yours.
The Supreme Court in nfibv. Sabellius confirmed that the states
are independent sovereigns and must act like it. The federal

(01:05:24):
government has usurped power far beyond its constitutional limits, and
the Tenth Amendment is clear.

Speaker 24 (01:05:31):
Powers not delegated are reserved to the states.

Speaker 13 (01:05:37):
The power to create or deny economic benefit for your
citizens is not a federal power. It's never been delegated
to the federal government. And if you have questions about that,
see James Madison's debate on the Codfishery Bill and Federalists
Number forty five. So that which is not delegate cannot

(01:06:01):
be taken. What has been taken beyond delegation is theft.
And that's what the Kentucky Resolution of seventeen ninety eight
so accurately points out. A stolen power is no power
at all, and the federal government's claim on that power
is null and void. This is exactly what Article six,

(01:06:25):
Clause two of the Constitution says, and it is reaffirmed
in Federalists seventy eight. So let's be perfectly clear. Silence
from the states over all these years does not equal
constructive abandonment of your authority. Delay does not equal consent.

(01:06:47):
The neglect from Washington.

Speaker 24 (01:06:49):
Does not extinguish the authority of the states or the
rights of the people. While the federal government sleeps at
the wheel, our states must awaken, reassert your rightful dominion
over your power. Use the power entrusted to you by
the Constitution, by the people of.

Speaker 13 (01:07:11):
Your states, of whom you represent. Stand now, Act now,
secure the prosperity and liberty of your people. You don't
need the permission of Washington d C. The Constitution does
not wait for your reply. The people have entrusted you

(01:07:37):
with the responsibility of securing their rights, their rights to life,
to liberty to property, to the defense of their rights.
We don't need to wait around for Washington DC to
make up their minds. They have stolen a power from you,
and now they're handling it irresponsibly, negligently as well as unconstitutionally.

(01:08:04):
Don't wait any longer. Be the sovereign state you were
created to be. Take back what is rightfully yours and
secure the rights of your people, and never ever surrender
this power to the federal government. Again, the states have

(01:08:29):
the authority to defund the federal government. The states have
the authority to restrict the federal government to delegated powers alone.
You are not colonies and your people are not subjects.

(01:08:53):
In the words of Justice Roberts and nfib Sibelius, it's
time that you now act like the sovereign states that
you are.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Yeah, a lot of people don't understand the constitutional impact
of Sivilita or affirmation really of Sibelius. And again we
go back to she did to the tenth Amendment. Because
the watershed of power isn't reserved for the federal government.
We're bought supremacire claus. All supremacy clause means is that
all the states agreed that the Constitution would be the

(01:09:25):
highest law pardoning the land save God's law. It's evidence
of the its tacit evidence of the agreement. That's what
the supremacy clause really is. Yes, federal laws passed constitutionally
would trump no pun intended there would trump state laws
true if they're constitutional, if they're under constitutional authority of

(01:09:47):
the federal government. But therein lies the rob the federal
governments taken upon itself powers that were never intended by
the constitutional granted by the Constitution. You've had a lot
of slick lawyers in the government and running for political
offices and and achieving political offices, and government lawyers who
have said, well, uh, yeah, it doesn't matter whether it's

(01:10:08):
constitutional or not. Of course, we're called a supremacy clause.
And that's a misapplication and a misconstruing of the supremacy clause.
It's not what it means. They take attack the wealth
the constitutions. That doesn't say we can. If the conscution
doesn't tell us we can't do it, then obviously we
can do it. No, because and what's the point of
a limited government, which was the whole point of the
constitution anyway, Then you're just making that null and void

(01:10:30):
the whole the whole doctrine of the whole premises of
limited government to begin with, because what you're creating is
unlimited government. That was not what our founders wanted, didn't
want to get back under another king just called the
president of the United States or a little group of
kings called Congress. That wasn't what they wanted. Uh, that

(01:10:51):
would be their worst nightmare come to life. But that's
kind of what what we have on our hands. This
being course, this being reported by Nicole Weatherholts Newsmax shut
down to shave up to fourteen billion from the US economy.
The now partisan Congressional Budget Officer the CBO said today
Wednesday that the US economy stands to lose billions and
real gross domestic product or GDP because of the ongoing

(01:11:12):
federal government shutdown and letter of House Budget Committee Chairman
Jody Errington. CBO director Phillip Swaggle said, most of the
decline in GDP and by the way, if you're wanting
Arrington's Republican from Texas. Swaggle said most of the decline
and GDP will eventually be recovered once a shutdown end.
So over between seven bill and fourteen billion will not
be that that's kind of gone for good. Of course,

(01:11:35):
this doesn't go to real detail US what's at the
base of that. But CBO also estimated that the government
shutdown will annualized real GDP growth in the fourth quarter
by one to two percentage points. The agency prepared estimates
of the shutdowns effects under four week, six week, and
eight week scenarios. According to the letter, and all three
scenarios that agency analyzed, the shutdown leads the temporary economic slowdown.

(01:11:58):
Real GDP is lower in the fourth quarter of twenty
twenty five that otherwise would have been. The rebound and
federal spending for employee compensation, the purchases of goods and services,
and snaps of the malnutrition Assistance Program benefits that occur
after the shutdown ends reverses most of the reduction in
the economic activity. But what does that tell you? So
that's double ed sort what else? What does that tell

(01:12:20):
you that all the government entitlements, all the government goodies,
as part of what our economy is based upon, that's
soaking for a little while. That without that our economy suffers,
which means our government is controlling too much of our economy,

(01:12:42):
that our economy is not as free market as you
think it is. It's more government controlled now than you
realize it is. And that's one of the things that's
being revealed. And the government shut down. There's a lot
of revealing going on here, is it not? Oh? Yeah,
a lot of revealing stuff is happening. And I hope

(01:13:02):
for many of you listing, the light bulb is going
on over top of your head and you're going to
wait a minute, uh huh exactly and how much and
again how much power are you willing to allow the
federal government to subsume to itself, until you finally said,
wait a minute, Maybe this is we've gone too far

(01:13:25):
in the States, as Christianna Hall suggesting, you have virtually
become colonies of the federal government. Did we get rid
of that colum? I mean, here we are in the irony.
Here is we're on the we're celebrating the tw hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of our declaration of independence and more
of independence against Great Britain. But we've almost become callingists again,
except this time too, another big over arching governments, not

(01:13:46):
the government of Great Britain. It's the federal government of
the United States. We're callingists again, and some of you,
whether you realize, and not to become slaves again on
plantations run by this time. Yes, older men and women,
but they're not all white. But they are all politicians,

(01:14:09):
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and they sit in courts and government bureaucracies, and you're
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(01:18:30):
we got a little bit more to discuss here on
the shutdown, the mood, other thanks users, other news in
the world. We're going to get into. But I wanted
you to hear this exchange. This is between Representative Jim
Jordan from Ohio and Katie tur CNN talking about why,
you know, the sticking point in all this has been

(01:18:53):
wanting to give either directly or indirectly, some kind of
healthcare benefit too, you know, have it in trying in
law governmentally too illegal aliens. And there they're pushing back saying, well, no, no,
we're not going to supplement this stuff. And now it's

(01:19:14):
sort of happening indirectly because hospitals must take on indigent care. Folks.
You cannot be under federal law turned away from from
a hospital. And if you are on an er and
you need basic medical attention, they cannot turn you away
because well, you don't have money, you don't have insurance
or whatever. And a lot of illegals go to ers. Okay,

(01:19:38):
I'll see this out in Texas. In fact, they passed
when I was in Austin. They passed a property tax
that went onto your house, added about two hundreds of
dollars of the average homeowner to pay for integen care
at the local city hospitals, the ones that took on
that kind of an engine care, and a big chunk
of that, if not the majority of it was illegals.

(01:20:01):
And this happens in some municipalities. Is awesome, one alone, it's
happening in some states. Whatever, But a lot of times
they turn around and then ask federal government for a
little bit of help with that. In federal government was okay, Well,
the Repubs want to see that. Just want to want
to see that. Stop. It's like if if, if you're
going to do it, okay, do it, but do it
show an expense, not federal tax payer expense, not from

(01:20:21):
you know. In other words, if you're running a hospital
in I don't know, Idaho, somewhere the other fort the
United States, shouldn't pay for your hospital. People in those
states shouldn't pay for the federal government for your for
your hospital. Bill regarding h taking everly of limitates. So

(01:20:43):
that's what that's what some of the rub is at
this point in time. Because they're wanting to extend benefits
to hospitals and and so forth. In in that regard,
and and and and by and indirectly sort of or directly,
if you want to look at it, extend those benefits
outward to those who are here illegally. That's a benefit
to them. Now they are not, by law entitleton benefits
of any sort. They get them. Anybody tells you that

(01:21:06):
they don't is lying, because I've watched it. Because all
they've got to do is produce reasonable facsimiles to some
clerk in some social services office. I've watched it happen
with my own two eyes, and I saw it happen
right there in Austin, Texas, and bing go back and go.
They get the minies, they get them, they get the
federal benefits. Okay, it happens. It happens, uh is. Some

(01:21:33):
states are a little tighter about it, some aren't. Some
states dupervide benefits for illegally, and so they didn't turn
around and want some subjects from the federal government. From
the federal government goes o quirer. So it happens. Okay,
it's a game that's been going on for years and
having lived in a waterer state. I've seen it firsthand.
All right. It's not supposed to happen, but it does
by law. It's not supposed to have it by law.

(01:21:54):
A lot of things aren't supposed toppen, but they do so. Uh.
Any politician that tells you that is lying through his
or her yellow teeth or fangs or whatever they have,
that's a lie. I have witnessed it, and a lot
of Texans out a lot of people. Would you know,
I could, I could back people out the door of

(01:22:14):
the studio that would tell you what they've witnessed. Got good, buddy, mine,
it's it's a combat veteran marine. He witnessed it. Couldn't
believe it. He couldn't get help. He was a veteran
marine and he saw people that couldn't speak a licking
unless she came across the boarder thirty days ago. They
were standing there getting all kinds of goodies, and he
clocked him on it. He clocked him on it, and

(01:22:35):
they told him he needed to believe. So it happens,
all right. Let me let you let me let you
hear this clip. This exchange. This is between CNN Katy
Tour and Representative Jordan, and she just wants to she
wants control the narrative and talk over, you know, kind
of roll over him. Uh. That's that's what the socialists do. Okay,

(01:22:58):
that's what the that's what they do. That's what trained
to do. It's what a lot of the talking hands.
It's what politicians do, the til fed direction, that's what
they do.

Speaker 25 (01:23:04):
Sally wrote, No, people can't afford it. They don't have
health care, and then the people the burden on people
who are sick.

Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
And you know, I hear what the Democrats want. The
Democrats want health care for people who are non citizens.
That's driving up health Can we talk too, but we
got to travel.

Speaker 25 (01:23:22):
Don't don't change the subject from subjects.

Speaker 6 (01:23:25):
You're talking about healthcare. And all I know is Maxie
Waters said, we want health care for illegal immigrants. But
I'm talking every single Democrat presidential candidate in the back.
In twenty twenty, they ask them, how many of you
will support health care for people who are non citizen,
for illeg immigrants.

Speaker 9 (01:23:38):
Everyone on stage races.

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
Tomala Harris raised her hand, Joe Biden raised his hand,
and he Budgen. They all raised their hand. That's what
they're for that's what they want here in this bill.

Speaker 25 (01:23:46):
That'sn't you're We went through all this with the House
Speaker Mike Johnson last week, trust me. But my point
was on the subsidien.

Speaker 6 (01:23:51):
Because that's where that's their position, and we're opposed to
that position. We don't think that is we don't think
that's common since we don't think that's good for the country.

Speaker 9 (01:23:59):
We don't think that's the right approach.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
What we do think is we can have a debate
on what's better for healthcare, but we don't think extending
and expanding Obamacare and giving it to illegal migrants, how's.

Speaker 9 (01:24:09):
That going to help?

Speaker 6 (01:24:10):
As I represent stay on the subject.

Speaker 25 (01:24:11):
And people who are in Obamacare subsidies, which I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
About health He was on the subject. It wasn't a
subject she wanted to dive into in terms of the subsidies.
She want to stay more on the Obamacare subsidies. But look, look,
something that you have to continually subsidize with taxpayer dollarge,
it tells you there's a problem with it. Something's wrong.
If you've got to continually subsidize the whole industry, if

(01:24:34):
you've got to continually subsidize something, then there's something wrong.
And the federal government has keep throwing money at something
to keep something propped up year after year after year
after year after year, decade, decade. Okay, then there's something wrong.
Now we're not talking about paying for the military and
stuff that the government's supposed to be doing. We're talking
about certain industries. We're talking about corporate welfare is really
what we're talking about. Okay, Why are people having to

(01:25:01):
be subsidized, why are companies having to be subsidized? Because
there's a problem. There's a problem. And Affordable Care Act
made exactly what everybody predicted it would, healthcare less affordable.
They should have called it the less affordable or the
Unaffordable health Care Act. Remember you get to keep your
doctrine now, you know, not necessarily. It's made things more expensive.

(01:25:26):
See we've already been down this road. But see now
they want supplements forkd to prop it up because it's broken.
Obamacare is broken. It's been broken. It's unaffordable for most people.
It's unaffordable. Doesn't work. The fact that the exchanges, in
terms of how many options you got in many states,
have gone almost nothing. There are very few options and

(01:25:47):
they're incredibly sky high. It's really the Unaffordable Healthcare Act,
and people just can't swing it. Day to day. People
just you know, working the nine to five jobs, working
in the hourly wage jobs, can't afford it. You're making
it even if you're making fourteen fifteen, sixteen bucks an hour.
It's still tough. It's a tough go by the time

(01:26:08):
you pay for everything else to try and have them,
to try and afford obamacareing, and let's say even talk
about outrageous deductibles of six thousands, sixty five hundred seven
thousand dollars in some places, in some cases for a
lot of plans, even for basic crummy plans. It's like,
what's the point in even hamming it. It's almost like
you don't even have it. It's crummy healthcare. But that's

(01:26:31):
what the industry has devolved to thanks to this crummy
Obamacare bill that people were told don't all Nancy Nancy Pelosy,
the Disease of Congress, said don't vote, I mean, don't
read it. Just vote for it and then you read
it later. No, well, okay, it's just usually not a
good way to pass or deal with legislation. There, Nan,

(01:26:51):
and here we sit in people including yours truly, who's
yacking on this microphone, predicted way back then this was
going to be a disaster. You want to prove from
the put Obamacare was a disaster. They've gotten, they've got
now poor supplements said it keep the whole thing propped
up because it doesn't work. It stinks, it stinks, it

(01:27:13):
doesn't work. So now we have unaffordable health care. Do
you want people to keep more of their money to
afford healthcare? Lower their taxes. I sat down one time
a number of years ago, when this whole debate was
going on, and I don't make a ton of money,
and I was just sitting there just looking at all

(01:27:35):
my all my expense. I was looking at what I
was taxed on my federal income tax. I lived in
a state at the time it did not have a
state tax, that's Texas. I looked at the gasoline taxes
when I go to the pump, look at the taxes
on my phone bill, looked at the taxes on my
utility bills, looked at looked at all the different taxes,

(01:27:55):
sales taxes, federal taxes, federal taxes on my phone bill, Okay,
all the different federal taxes I paid, not just income tax,
gasoline taxes, this tax at, surch charge that, this other
surch charge, blah blah blah blah blah. When I ended

(01:28:15):
up all the money that was going to some sort
of government entity, it was it was roughly forty percent
of my income. And gang, I don't make a ton
of mine, don't makel I wasn't back back then making
a lot of money by any stretch. I wasn't making
six figures. I would probably be considered at that moment
in time lower middle class. I was working at a

(01:28:37):
radio station in the Austin, Texas area. Nothing against that station,
and then doing other things I couldn't make money, odd
jobs and whatever you know, side gigs and side holes
as I could get scraping money, and roughly forty percent
of my income was going out the door in some
sort of a tax to somebody. I thought, wow, that's
a pretty high tax rate. I was being squeezed, and yeah,

(01:29:01):
I was taking the deductions. I could take a man
come tax. It wasn't a lot. Is getting hammered property
taxes on the home I lived in. We're outrageous because
Austin has outrageous property taxes, as do many big cities.
It's got some of the highest in the country. So
I was just getting hammered right and left. You want

(01:29:23):
me to be able to afford my healthcare? When they
were saying back then, twenty percent of a person's income
usually has to go to healthcare some sort of health
care costs. That's outrageous. You have what forty percent of
man comes going to a tax that's not outrageous. Reduced
my taxes by twenty percent, and I could use the
additional twenty percent to a forward some pretty nice healthcare.

(01:29:44):
How about them, apples? So let's do that mathematics. But
you see, most of these politicians are lawyers. You're not mathematicians.
So joke, what do you call three hundred and third
what do you call five hundred and thirty five odd
lawyers in one building? That would be in Congress anyway,

(01:30:05):
Moving on, Ah, speaking of the RS, churches rise up
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(01:30:25):
of pastors are tearing up their RS paperwork and reclaiming
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are tax deductible. Then you do. But there's no law
that says, if you are a church you must have
a five oh one C three If you're not doing that.

(01:30:49):
In what some are calling a second grade awakening of
political courage, dozens of churches in Texas, for example, Tennessee, Florida,
all over the place, how publicly renounced, are five oh
one C three taxes and status of this fall is
citing moral do and First Amendment principle over financial advantage.
Good for them, Good for them. Maybe some congrests that
don't like well good deductors. Now, well, no, you can't.

(01:31:11):
The reasoning is simple. Washington doesn't get to decide what
a pastor you can say about the soul of a nation.
But we've been muzzled for too long. And by the way,
that law came online in the nineteen fifties. Let me
give you a little background here. In fact, it was
in Texas when one Lyndon Baines Johnson was getting trashed
by preachers and pulpits, and it was hurting his election chances.

(01:31:33):
So he finally did get in to the halls of Congress.
He got a law passed which basically said, if you're
gonna be a five o' one c three with tax
exam status as far as the RSK is concerned, then
you cannot engage in any kind of speech other than
religious speech. You can't go into political speech or anything

(01:31:55):
like that, which, by the way, was a violation on
the First Amendment. Uh. And so there was a movement
a few years back. I can remember a lot of
churches where they were actually recording their sermons and then
sending them to the rs hoping the rs would bust.
When they didn't, Cauzarius knew wouldn't stand up at court
to be blown out as a First Amendment violation. But

(01:32:16):
thank you, Lynda Bangs Johnson for that now nonsense, because
he didn't like the fact that they were criticizing him.
I'll get you, I'll get you preachers back, and that's
what he did. True story, look it up. We've been
muzzled for too long. Pastor Mark Riggins of Liberty Fellowship
in Dallas, said one of the first congregations to follow

(01:32:37):
the solution papers in September. If Caesar wants to tax
the church for telling the truth, so be it. We'll
pay in silver before we sell our convictions for silence. Actually,
in our country, we don't have a Caesar, and our
country guess what you are, Caesar. What did Ole Ab
Blincoln say, Government of the people, by the people for

(01:32:59):
the people. Didn't say government of the government, by the
government for the government. Now, that's close to what we have.
That's evolved, but that's not constitutional. That's not where our
framers founders gave us. Under federal tax law, churches that
operate as five O one see three non profits must
refrain from endorsing or opposing political candidates. But enforcement has
been inconsistent for decades h O because there's a lot

(01:33:20):
of First Amendment violations in there that if they go
to Supreme Court, it's solving a blown out of the water.
And in an area of Trump's popular survival, and with
the twenty twenty six min terms approaching, a new way
of faith leaders is rejecting what they call spiritual gag order.
A quiet rebellion turns public throughout October twenty twenty five
legal groups like Liberty Council the First Liberty Institute have
hosted webinars guiding pastors through the process or voluntarily surrendering

(01:33:43):
their taxiam status and impressed in a movement in modern
American Christianity. By the way, Chris hann Hall, you heard
last Hour. At the end of the last hour, pardon me.
She's been a big part of that movement, trying to
encourage pastors to ditch that. According to leaked registration to
obtain by Big League Politics, at least three in the
two churches have taken steps to restructure as faith based

(01:34:04):
associations or ecclesiastical corporations independent of the IRS Code since
August where we're watching a modern day exodus. That attorney
Denise Parker, who has represented multiple churches making the transition.
These pastors aren't running from the law, They're standing on it.
The First Amendment came before the tax code. Thank you.

(01:34:25):
Culture wars from the pulpit. Many of the pastors leading
the charge say their congregations demanded stronger voices on issues
like abortion, gender ideology, border security in public education. They
argue that remaining politically neutral while the moral fabric of
American ribels would make them complicit and evil. Yeah, there's
truth in that. The Internal Revenue Service is not publicly
commented on the movement because they know they's smacked now,

(01:34:48):
but several regional offices have reportedly sent warning letters to
churches that continue to use their tax exempt ei nds
after filing withdrawals. Legal experts say the government faces a
difficult decision cracked down on churches and risking noting a
constitutional firestorm and losing in the Supreme Court, by the way,
pretty badly, or to quietly allow the rebellion to grow.
I mean, it's kind of darned if they do, da'n
if they don't. Meanwhile, the movement is already rippling into

(01:35:10):
the electoral politics. Some pastors are opening endorsing candidates who
support paranal rights, border enforcement, pro life legislation, a direct
challenge to decades of politically sanitized sermons. Founders never quote.
The Founders never visioned pastors waiting for permission to defend liberty,
said Reverend Joel Morgan of Faith Harvest Church in Knoxville.
Were not activists, were shepherds, and the wolves are at
the door. True, and by the way, it was northern preachers,

(01:35:37):
in some southern, but northern preachers there were some of
the biggest abolitionists that preached from the pulpit abolition of slavery.
Of course, I ultimately led to our Civil war, but
it was one of the causes that led to our
civil war the numerous causes. Actually it was one of
the bigger ones, but there was others, and they were
I main screaming from the pulpits American Revolution. There was

(01:36:01):
was what was known as a black Robe regiment. There
were a lot of pastors and a lot of churches
all over the country, north and south. A lot of
preachers who parsons and so forth, who were preaching revolution
from tyranny to their concretants. Some of them, their churches

(01:36:24):
were busted in on in the mornings by the British
Red Coats and British officials and saying, yeah, you're coming
with us, And some of them were in militia units.
They take off their their their robe to then reveal
a uniform underneath say who's with me, Let's go get them. Uh.

(01:36:45):
So we have a history of this. It's it was
part of the fabrica of our American Revolution. It's historical fact,
it's documented.

Speaker 16 (01:36:56):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
You actually had a couple uh folks who were who
were Rever pastors who signed that First of Independence. As
a matter of fact, it's like a pause here, go
to break, got more to get into on this. I've

(01:37:18):
been saying there's an assault on your religious liberties, your
first member liberties, free speech, liberties for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
More talk continues next with richiel More Christian talked that rocks.

Speaker 15 (01:37:40):
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and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

(01:38:03):
He was with God in the beginning. Through him, all
things were made. Without him. Nothing was made that has
been made. In him was life, and that life was
the light of men. The light shines in the darkness,
but the darkness has not understood it. He was in
the world, and though the world was made through him,

(01:38:27):
the world did not recognize him. From John One, Listen
to the Bible. It's great for the soul.

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Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
And now a man voted the most popular talk show
host two years in a row and Kuzbekistan Richiel all Right,
US City has been challenged for creating a sys that

(01:39:00):
allows critics to suppress anyone's speech, but it's been worned
a bout Bobo New World Daily. A suburb of Atlanta.
This is in the South Gang This is in a
fairly read state. This is in the South Bible Belt,
a suburb of Atlanta's being challenged for a scheme it
created that allows anyone to silence the speech of anyone
else if they don't like the speech. The dispute, which
appears to be a direct challenge of the First Amendment,
erupted because someone objected to the Christian message being offered

(01:39:24):
on a city street and with a city permit by
preacher Jason Cantrell. Okay, it is the American Center for
Law and Justice that explained he has for years shared
the Gospel on the public side walk outside of an
abortion business. Quote he preaches two pastors by and offers
encouragement and prayor to women entering the organization said, like
many speaking in public areas where a street, noise and

(01:39:45):
more can interfere, he used with a city permit a
small system amplify his voice. This summer, Forest Park police
issued him a citation anyway, and he was cited after
officers claimed he'd been asked three times to turn the
volume down. The problem wasn't that Jackson didn't have a permit.
He did. Instead the city's permit it includes a troubling
clause stating that it becomes null and void if any
complaints are received about the noise level. The legal team

(01:40:08):
noted the officers simply declare the permit void and ticketed him.
In other words, the city has created a system in
which anyone who dislikes the message can silence the speaker
simply by complaining. That is not how the First Amendment works.
The ACL jay explained that it's correct. They are absolutely correct.
Under the city scheme, officials have made a lawful speech
entirely contingent all whether listeners react favorably once anyone complains,

(01:40:29):
regardless of whether the sound exceeded legal limits or not,
city automatically treats a primitives void. That means police can
punish a speaker who was fully in compliance with the
permit's terms simply because others objected to the message being spoken.
The ACLJ noted, that's called the Heckler's veto, and long
has been demanded by critics of Christian messaging, but also
long has been struck down by the Supreme Court. The

(01:40:51):
quote the conscution does not allow speech to be restricted
based on a listener reaction or public hostility, the legal
team said, and the Forest Park plan does exactly what
the High Court has forbidden ken Trell's and whatsoe is
a constitution for that matter. Contraill's efforts to follow the
requirements were confirmed because the city's renewed renewed as permit
even after police ticketed him, although the faulty condition remained. Quote.

(01:41:13):
Jason's case unerscores how such policies operate in practice. When
the government ties speech rights to audience approval on popular
religious expression will always be the first target. The preacher's
message about faith or the sanctity of life may be
deeply meaningful to some and uncomfortable to others, but usually
under our constitution, discomfort is not a basis for censorship.

(01:41:37):
The ACLJ said, Yeah, there's no uncomfortable clause at the Constitution.
The Constitution that that first amendment, the free speech portion
of the First Amendment exists to protect unpopular speech, not
just speech that you agree with, but speech that you
may vehemently disagree with. Well tough, they've got a right
to say it. Taking them to court, and it looks

(01:42:01):
like they're forest Park's I think going to roll over
and go ahead and correct that problem. But here in
lies again the rub where you have so many cities
and councils and city councils and city governments and county
governments and even state governments that just don't are just
ignorant the Constitution and what they can and can't do.
They think they can be constitutional for his z owes,

(01:42:22):
you can't. Sorry, it applies all across the border, across
the country and cities, county, states, whatever, in all governments.
Therein is your supremacy clause. That's what that means. Got
this one trust Christ? He paid the price. Town pays

(01:42:45):
damages for going full Antichrist on a man promoting Jesus
being What about Bob by New World? It daily no one,
No one should be forestasit governman's permission to express their
faith in a public space. First moment is your permit?

(01:43:12):
Town in South Carolina get part of the Bible Belt
Red state. Are you hearing, Republicans one of your states
is changing its ordinances finally and has agreed to pay
damages for its scheme to censor a Christian residence statement

(01:43:35):
of faith. It's first liberty institute. The battle in court
on behalf of Ernest Giardino talked about this battle before
on the show and reached the settlement. While the town
of Chapmain will pay normal damages for its actions, so
it's got to pay attorney's fees, it will also be

(01:43:56):
able to count for lawyers fees. The consent order adopted
by a federal court that now enjoins Sheppin and its
officials from enforcing an ordinance which kept Jerdno from holy
religious signs on public ways in the town without a permit. See,

(01:44:16):
if they had been following the constitutions, wouldn't even happened
to begin with. It would have cost taxpayers money. Are
going to be on the hook for this to side
degreed on the contents of the order after town officials
moved to change their ordinance. Goot mister Geredno just wants
to share his Christian faith with others, said Nate Kellum,
lawyer for First Liberty institute, pardon me, we command the

(01:44:38):
town for revising the ordinance language so mister Jeeredni can
live out his faith in the public square because they'd
been hammering him for that. Couldn't do that, didn't do that.
In fact, he was told that the city required acquirements.

(01:44:58):
The city law demanded a two week not to him
to proclaim his beliefs, and they limited him to thirty minutes,
claiming that he would need to change sidewalk corners every
fifteen minutes. But First Liberty stepped in said, yeah, no,
that's unconstitutional. Accuse the town of violent the First and
fourteenth amendments actually of the US Constitution, as well as

(01:45:19):
the state's Religious Freedomact. Again, read the Constitution, Read your
state constitution for that matter, read your state laws. Be
where you start doing stupid stuff. But this is the
kind of stupid stuff the city councils and mayors and
governments and the local cops do. By the way, the
local cops are supposed to be in the sheriff. Everybody
is supposed to be the guardians of his civil liberties,

(01:45:42):
not the hammerers of his civil liberties. This is why
there needs to be education within law enforcement on what
the Constitution says. A lot of cops try to shy
away from civil matters. So sorry, you can't do that,
because this is a civil matter. This is civil law.
It's not just constitutional law. These are civil rights, and

(01:46:04):
you are sworn to uphold these rights. That's why you
can't go searching people or searching premises and so forth
without warrants, typically unless there's probable cause that the crime
is in the process being committed, someone's life might be
in danger, that kind of thing. Otherwise, getna warrant. I mean,
you know that's the law. Anyway, Again, I keep going

(01:46:32):
back to most of the eels of our country right
now gonna be taken down to not following the constitution
and not following the bottle they can pick. Gosh, I
got so much to talk about it. I'm gonna have
time to get into some of this. Let's go here.

(01:46:53):
I think Bill Mara makes a point. I don't always
agree with them so much, but he's saying that this
and man, Donnie case this Ma'm donnie uh issue. If
you will, fai running from mayor, He's probably gonna get it.
In New York City. He's saying that it's a sister
Soldier moment while the them grab party in the country

(01:47:16):
is on the ballot, that this thing is gonna have
ricochet in his mind, ricochet effects for better for worse,
probably for worse for the Dems around the country. He's
been trying to talk some sense into some of the
the socialist communists and man, look, ma'n Donnie is not
a socialists a communist based on just things coming out

(01:47:38):
of his mouth. And Bill Martin has been trying to say, hey, guys,
you might want to rain some of the wackos in
watch some of these guys. Let me that you're this clip.

Speaker 27 (01:47:58):
I was gonna run out of time with the go
but I was going to ask him about a sister
soldier issue, which is what there's been talking about a
lot because the Democrats, let's face it, they're kind of split.
Now there's the far left version that did not do
too well in recent elections, and then people like the
governors say we've got to come back to the middle
common sense, and whenever this discussion comes up, this is

(01:48:18):
what you hear a lot. We need a sister soldier
moment a time when the some issue with the Democrat says, Look,
I'm not with the far left, and.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
This is how you know you can trust me that
I'm not. I think I have the issue, okay, and
it's the mayor's race in New York.

Speaker 27 (01:48:34):
I think he seems like a sweet guy, Mom Tommy.
But I would just like to say, because the election
is in a couple of weeks, this is not just
New York that's on the ballot. I think the whole
Democratic Party in the country is on the ballot, and
the whole country would be looking at this race to
see which way are the Democrats going to go. No,

(01:48:57):
Andrew Cuomo may not be that exciting and that inspiration,
but you know, for a party that said we want
to get back to normal, he's kind of normal.

Speaker 25 (01:49:07):
I mean, what, well, he got some things in his
history that I know, well, we.

Speaker 27 (01:49:15):
Did a deep dive on that because we had him
on the show. A lot of it is kind of
I mean, maybe he was a little too handsy, a
little too Italian, uh, a little too tachy.

Speaker 28 (01:49:25):
You know, he did not a little too Italian, that's
what he said.

Speaker 27 (01:49:29):
You know, yes, you know, you know did not get
the memo. If you Democrats want to keep doing this
throwing guys like that under the bus, because that's not
good enough and pure enough. You're going to wind with
the wind up with a guy who did a little
more than what Andrew Cuomo did. Anyway, the point is
they're going to have to decide on this mayor's race.
Now they say it's getting closer if it is Mondami

(01:49:52):
in New York Again, I think this has very important
national implications.

Speaker 25 (01:49:58):
So I disagree with you a little, but I both
agree and disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
I'm only in that there. But anyhow, I think he's right,
and it's kind of happened. Look that that's there's two
bell Weathers. That's one of them. Elections coming up this fall.
That's one of them. I think he's the one in
New York City, the one here in Virginia as well,
are gonna are gonna I think Democrats are looking at

(01:50:24):
these very closely, very globle. Everybody is, but they're especially
looking at it real closely, and probably with some nervousness.
Probably with some nervousness. Even even Governor hochel Men is
like to call her even she can't quite bring herself

(01:50:45):
around to endorsing Mom Donnie. She just can't do it,
and I'm gonna blame her. I wouldn't do it either,
and she's a big socialist. She can't even get on
board with Mom Donnie either. The guys off the rails.
But nevertheless, I think the people I hate to say this,

(01:51:08):
but I think the people in New York City are
just ignorant enough that they will vote for the man.
But there's no saying that says you get the government
you deserve. You get the government you deserve. So we'll
see how this all this all plays out. Ice ice
maybe ICE leadership shakeup exposes growing DHS friction over deportation tactics,

(01:51:32):
miss bring what about Greg Wimmer and Bill Malusian Fox News.
DHS Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Tricia McLaughlin weighs in
on members of the Democratic Party who are pushing for
ICE tracking apps and even more on the Big weekend show.
A mass shakeup of US Immigration and Customs and Enforcement
leaderships in the way I make growing friction inside the
Department of Homeland and Security over Department ad deportation tactics

(01:51:55):
and priorities. According to Ford, senior DHS officials, the overhaul
effects ICE Field office isn't at least eight cities and
will replace many senior leaders with border patrol officials, making
an unprecedented power shift inside the HS and exposing sharp
divisions over how far to go in or ramping up deportations.
The officials told Fox News UH the the changes are

(01:52:16):
being driven by by competing camps inside the HS. On
one side of the as borders are Tom Homan and
ICE Director Todd Lyons, who have advocated focusing on criminal
aliens and those with final deportation orders, who, by the way,
at that point have had their you know, their their
new process. Okay, it's that they've had it. That's it,
it's over with Borders are Tom Homan and Homeland Security

(01:52:38):
Secretary of Christian Noam. They're they're they're of course all
for you know this enforcement Christian OMI as part of
full man security Serity boarders are Tom Homan, pretty big
on that. On the other side of the HS, UH Secretary,
UH Senior Advisor Corey Lewandowski and Barber Tokomata Greg Bomino,

(01:52:59):
who have pushed for a broader and more aggressive approach
targeting anyone in the US legally to boost deportation numbers.
Two senior officials described the mood inside DHS as tense
and combative, with some ICE leaders warning the new approach
it could he rowe public support, blur the line between
ICE and Border patrol operations. Well, in my mind that
paus put it all one ubrella. Anyway, Border Patrol I

(01:53:20):
ins ICE should probably all be under one thing. Anyhow Well,
I thought it was weird to have three different agencies
that kind of do the same thing. I started off
with the worst of the worst, knowing every target they're hitting.
But since Border Patrol came to LA in June, we've
lost our focus, going too hard, too fast, with limited prioritization.
Once your DHS official told Fox it's getting numbers, but

(01:53:42):
at what cost? Those senior official put it them on
the ICE's arresting criminal aliens. They bred patroller hitting home
depots and car washes. Border Patrol agents have defended the
new strategy. What did everyone think mass deportations meant only
the worst, one agent told Fox News. Tom Homan has
said it himself. Any one in the US illegally is
on the table. A USBP Chief Patrol agent of the

(01:54:03):
El Centro Section, Greg and Greg Bamino also is on
that The internal friction comes as deportation totals remained below
targets set by the administration earlier this year. Ficial stow
Fox News at the latest round of re assignments impact
sized field agents in Los Angeles, San Diego, Phoenix, stand Reportland,
blah blah blah blah, different big cities. A desperate DHS

(01:54:25):
official confirmed that the personnel changes, describing them as performance
based and designed to move people around for the best results.
DHS spokesperson Natricia McLaughlin said in the statement that while
we have no personal changes to announce at this time
from administration remains laser focused on delivering results and removing

(01:54:45):
violent criminals in illegal landings from this country. So anyway,
that's kind of but there is a little bit of
in house fighting there on how the best approach to
the best approach at this time with the resources that
they have, which of course would probably have some limitations
on at the moment, the best way to move forward
that I knew that was going to happen. I knew
it was going to happen. You get enough enough people

(01:55:10):
in there arguing about stuff, that's what's going to happen.
So that's what the that's what's going on to some
extent with ICE there. Then you've got ICE halts overnight visits.
The mid shutdown just mean wanted to buy Michael katznewsmax
dot com Immigration's a customers Forcemith City can no longer

(01:55:31):
provide congressional access to its attention facilities for overnight over
sight visits rather not overnight oversights because of the government shutdown,
A Democrat lawmakers filed a lawsuit in July against ICE
over access to real time inspections of the tention facilities
and new guidelines were crying at least seven days advance
notice for visits. In October twenty first filing the US
District Court of Washington, D C. Bred Shoemate, Principal Deputy

(01:55:53):
Assistant Attorney General, and ICE said ICE lacks the staff
and funding to support such visits during the shutdown. That is.
The lawsuit, led by Representative Joe Nigous, Democrat from Colorado,
decided a section of the twenty twenty four fiscal year
spending law that provision extended through the continuing Resolution for

(01:56:13):
fiscal twenty twenty five, bars use of federal funds to
block lawmakers or their staff from entering immigration detention facilities
for oversight. She wrote, the provision expired October first with
the spending law, and that ongoing spending is not subject
to the expired general Provision known as section five to
twenty seven. ICE is no longer funding the operation of

(01:56:36):
its attention facilities, including the adoption and implementation of the
Congressional Visitation Protocols at issue, and this action with any
funds that were appropriated subject to section five two seven.
She wrote, ICE is incurring obligations in advance of fiscal
twenty twenty six appropriations, and those obligations are not subject
to the expired General Provision known as section five two seven. Anyway,

(01:56:56):
that's they're pushed back on all that. This is all
becoming a political football to kick around. Anyway, Then you've
got a playing a little bit of a clip here
in just a moment. You've got a guy who's working
in a college who wasn't real happy, bad eyes and

(01:57:25):
saying that, well, you know, it's a college manager just saying, well,
you know, just I mean shoot them. College manager urged
ice a just to be shot and wiped out, gets fired.
It's meaning what about jo Kovacs World in Daily college
staff who the publicly urged the murder of federal ice ages,

(01:57:46):
specifically saying they should be shot and wiped out. Imagine
that has now been fired. These are the kinds of
people teaching your kids in college. Okay, he's not alone.
I'm sure he's got a lot of colleagues who didn't
open their mouths quite so big that probably feel the
same way. A spokesperson from Wilbur Write College and the
City Colleges of Chicago to a World Nit Daily on

(01:58:08):
Monday regarding the case of Moyses Bernal Puentiss, the individual
is not employed by Wilbwriight College, on any or any
affiliated colleges. They booted him out. Our college system does
not tolerate violence nor incitement under the circum under any circumstances.
It was during an October eighteen No Kings protest in

(01:58:29):
Chicago that the man who was the adult education manager
at Wilverwriight College was recorded on camera openly calling for
the murder of federal law enforcement officials. I'll let you
hear it.

Speaker 13 (01:58:45):
The God we gotta churn around the cause of this
fascist system.

Speaker 29 (01:58:51):
These ice Asians gonna get shot and wiped up.

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
The state machinery.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
That's a fan display right there, got to get wiped out.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
Oh there you go. So for those comments, he was canned,
and I think rightfully so. But this again reveals who
these people are, revealing you who they are. The people
are revealing to you who they are. This is what
they're all about. This is what the Marxist socialist communists
are about. Because they're not winning as much as they

(01:59:26):
want to at the ballot box, so they're not telling
you to grab the bullet box and go to town.
That's this is who they are. That's who these folks
ultimately are when they say things. Believe what they're saying. Oh,
crazy as it may be, Crazy as it may be.

(01:59:51):
MSNBC's Nicole I'm running through these. Nicole Wallace claims no
Democrats have everyone playing the Trump is Hitler or that
he's a fascist or anything like that. We'll cue the tape,
shall we say it? MSNBC n Cole Wallash actually claims
no Democrats have implied Trump as Hitler's being imported by
the Daily Color News Foundation. Jason Cohen, MSNBC host to

(02:00:11):
Cole Wallace claimed on the Best People with Nikloe Wallace Monday,
that she did not believe a single Democrat had ever
implied President Trump was equivalent to Adolf Hitler. She was
interviewing Democrat Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker, who asserted on Wallace's podcast,
he never suggested Donald Trumps Hitler, but then goes on
to suggested he's acting like Hitler. I'm gonna let you

(02:00:34):
hear it, and some other things that talking heads and
folks have been saying comparing Trump to Adolf Hiller, the
arts man that he's pretty much, you know, reincarnation of
Adolf Hitler or whatever. We ll let me let you
hear the clip. We ingested that Donald Trump is Hitler.

(02:01:05):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 30 (02:01:06):
I don't think any Democrat has. I actually and I
and I think it's a it's a smear that they
project back on to critics.

Speaker 31 (02:01:15):
But I JD. E.

Speaker 30 (02:01:16):
Vance called Donald Trump cultural heroine. He called him America's Hitler.
I mean the attacks on Donald Trump as a fascist
came from three generals who worked for him. I mean,
the most brutal critiques have come from people that have
seen him far more closely than you or I combine.
But I think that that gets lumped in with what
is a very thoughtful analysis about all of us that

(02:01:39):
looking the other way has an equally harrowing echo in history.

Speaker 3 (02:01:43):
Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 31 (02:01:45):
And my point, and I think the point you're making
is that you know, we've seen this before with totalitarians
and authoritarians, that there's a well worn path throughout history
and you can recognize the signs of it, and that
it just happens that the the authoritarian and totalitarian history

(02:02:09):
that I know best is having built a Holocaust museum,
sitting next to those survivors for ten years, doing and
learning so much about the Holocaust and my own family's experience,
you know, escaping the Russian killings of Jews in the
nineteenth century in Ukraine. I think it's easy to recognize this.

(02:02:31):
The question is are people going to you know, the
I think we all ought to go reread Martin Nimoler's poem.

Speaker 17 (02:02:40):
First.

Speaker 31 (02:02:40):
They came, it's the name of it, and you know,
because it's it's right. I mean, you can substitute different
names in there for you know, for socialists or Jews
or you know, trade unionists, and it all applies today.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
You know, it happens that what the Nazis.

Speaker 31 (02:02:56):
Did was they went after immigrants first, just so happens,
you know, and then they and then they categorized people
who were German citizens but weren't maybe multi generational German
citizens as immigrants, after they had demonized immigrants. Right now
you're put in a demonized category.

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
And so on.

Speaker 31 (02:03:17):
So I think we you know, again, you can recognize
all this and and and yeah, it's deeply concerning, and
I do. I think more and more, and I just
you know, I was at a union rally. These guys
are you know, this is southern Illinois. These are older,
you know, a lot of kind of middle aged white
trade unionists. And their leader, you know, got up and

(02:03:40):
I would not describe him as a progressive or a liberal.
And he got up and he was accepting an award, uh,
and he read Niemueller's poem Wow to a room of
essentially all white trade union guys, you know, plumbers and carpenters.

Speaker 8 (02:04:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:04:02):
Basically he went on to compare Trump to the mag
of people and his administration and a bunch of Nazis.
By the way, Nazi stands for National and Socialist Party.
Hitler was a socialist. Okay, Pritch could probably agrees more
with socialism than constitutionalism. Right. So he's a full tilt hipocrite,

(02:04:24):
full tilt hypocrite. But he's not alone. He's got a
lot of company, a lot of.

Speaker 28 (02:04:35):
Donald Trump's modern dagas scopo. Escapo is scooping folks up
off the streets. They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks. This
is being shipped off to FOURG tort walls. More chance
tomount of defense, not even a chance to kiss the
love one goodbye, just grabbed up by massed agents, shoved
into those fans and disappeared.

Speaker 32 (02:04:54):
When you compare the old films of the Gestapo grabbing,
grabbing people off the street Poland, and you compare them
to those nondescript thugs who grabbed that that student, that
graduate student, it does look like a Gestapo operation. You know,
my dad served in Second World War.

Speaker 29 (02:05:15):
He fought the Nazis in Northern Africa. He fought the
Nazis on the Italian peninsula. And I think he's looking
down right now when he's happy that I'm fighting today's Nazis.

Speaker 33 (02:05:27):
Because if we just rolled this clock on the wall
back seventy five years, we'd be looking at a time
in Nazi Germany, where people ran around with signs like
this new ICE sign that says, report all foreign invaders
to ICE, with Uncle Sam there holding up the sign.
This could have been a Gestapo member seventy five years ago.

(02:05:50):
Report all Jews.

Speaker 34 (02:05:51):
You're calling ICE agents modern day Nazis given the attacks
on ICE agents that took place in Los Angeles over
the weekend. Don't do you regard your dangerous inflammatory rhetoric
is a problem.

Speaker 35 (02:06:04):
Governor, do you and other Democrat politicians understand why referencing
Ice as Gestapo is offensive? I'm going to explain the
Department Holdland Security is reporting that ICE agents are now
experiencing a four hundred and thirteen percent rise in assaults.

Speaker 36 (02:06:22):
I understand very well why it is wrong to compare
Adolf Hitler's third Right to any other movement.

Speaker 9 (02:06:28):
It was uniquely evil, full stop.

Speaker 36 (02:06:30):
The tumorstration is insisting on trying to create their at
home a preferred version of reality.

Speaker 26 (02:06:38):
Forty percent of Americans don't trust mainstream media.

Speaker 3 (02:06:42):
Why is that? How did we get here?

Speaker 1 (02:06:43):
Listen?

Speaker 37 (02:06:44):
We are seeing a huge loss in trust of all
of our institutions.

Speaker 4 (02:06:47):
Sort of losing that trust is not by accident, It's
by designs.

Speaker 26 (02:06:53):
This is where I would push back when I see
this kind of insight and passion being directed at the
current administration and the lack of this kind of insight
and passion being directed at the previous administration, where again
I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about left leaning
news media organizations were kind of like.

Speaker 29 (02:07:14):
La la la, la la.

Speaker 9 (02:07:15):
Eventhing's fine, Look the environments.

Speaker 26 (02:07:17):
I mean, look the economy's great, la la la.

Speaker 37 (02:07:21):
That was Saturday at a rally in Florida. Trump was
asking supporters to raise their hands vowing to vote for
him in the March fifteenth primary. But that led to
headlines like these where some compared that moment to something
that might have happened at a rally in Nazi Germany.
And we noticed four other moments in the past week
where people have compared Trump to Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 19 (02:07:41):
Adolf Hitler, we all look at Adolf Hitler in nineteen forty.
We should look at Adolf Hitler in nineteen twenty nine.
He was a kind of a funny, kind of character
that said the things that people were thinking. Where Donald
Trump takes it, I have absolutely no idea, but Donald
Trump is a dangerous man with the things that he
has been saying.

Speaker 27 (02:08:00):
So I had one of Hitler's speeches translated into English,
and I think this tells us a lot about where
Donald Trump is getting his ideas. Look at this Hitler speech,
and we've translated it for you.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 27 (02:08:14):
We're gonna make Germany great again.

Speaker 3 (02:08:17):
That I can tell you, believe me.

Speaker 19 (02:08:20):
So when people ask why you support Donald Trump, you
just tell.

Speaker 9 (02:08:24):
Them he's going to take our economy from here to here.

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (02:08:31):
He's not some cautious politician.

Speaker 9 (02:08:33):
He says what I'm thinking.

Speaker 32 (02:08:37):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:08:38):
I just like the guy.

Speaker 5 (02:08:43):
A message from recent.

Speaker 3 (02:08:44):
It was like Nazi Trump. There's like Nazi stuff they
were showing in there.

Speaker 37 (02:08:48):
Comedian Lewis c Kay wrote this in an email to fans,
please stop it with voting for Trump. It was funny
for a little while, but the guy is Hitler, and
by that I mean that we are being Germany in
the thirties. Do you think they saw the expletive coming?
Hitler was just some hilarious and refreshing dude with a
weird comover who would say anything at all. Trump assed
voters again on Monday, this time in North Carolina to

(02:09:11):
raise their hands and take the loyalty pledge.

Speaker 6 (02:09:15):
There are plenty of people in your districts who voted
in the Republican primary for Donald Trump.

Speaker 35 (02:09:19):
What's your thirty second pitch to them for why this
is a bad idea.

Speaker 6 (02:09:23):
You just said it's something that you're passionate about.

Speaker 38 (02:09:25):
My thirty second pitch is that we are a country
based on fundamental values that Donald Trump is fundamentally opposed to.
We are not a racist country. We are not a
country that just says the hell with the Constitution. I
don't care what it says. You know, unlawful detentions targeting

(02:09:46):
specific religions or ecthtics beliefs, not not following the Geneva
Convention on torture. I mean, these are not American values.
And so as frustrated as you might be with the
political scene, not vote for someone who doesn't represent our values.

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
And you know, and I'll say something else.

Speaker 38 (02:10:10):
When you're in politics, one of those sort of like
cardinal rules is you never say what I'm about to say.
But people should read the history of how Germany elected Hitler.
Read that history and just try to understand the analogies.
And I think that's important at this At this.

Speaker 39 (02:10:31):
Time, Trump's speech was well received by a lot of people,
even a handful of Democratic commentators. One person who was
far from happy, though, was attorney Eric Guster, who was
enraged be tweeted during the speech. Did Hitler draft part
of this speech? Also tweeted that you are the civil
rights issue of our time.

Speaker 3 (02:10:48):
Potus strong words.

Speaker 39 (02:10:49):
Eric Guster joins US tonight Firmingham. So, Eric, I've known
you a long time. I think you're pretty reasonable guy,
smart guy, lawyer. I see what's happening to you as
something that's it's very similar to what's happening to a
lot of Democrats that know in Washington. You dislike Trump
so much. His personal affect is so offensive to you
that you can't hear clearly what he says. You're possessed

(02:11:12):
and it's affecting your judgment.

Speaker 10 (02:11:15):
That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard within the
last twenty four hours. Besides some of the lines in
Trump's speech, I do not totally dislike Donald Trump. What
I'm disliking is his message and the things that he
says about people, and the hatred that he's incited in people,
and him not speaking out against the racial hatred that
has done in his name, the attacks on Muslims, the
attacks on Blacks, the attacks on Jewish cemetaries that he's

(02:11:39):
touched on a little bit in the last few days,
but not forcuately enough so that those the things I'm
totally against.

Speaker 39 (02:11:44):
So I don't even plan to address directly your tweet
comparing him to Hitler, because I think it's embarrassing to you.
But I want to get to what you just said.

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
No, you read it. You know you read it.

Speaker 39 (02:11:54):
I know, but I'm embarrassed to bring it directly to
you because I think you're above that and I think
it diminishes you. But let me ask you what you
did about what he just said. You said Trump's speech
last night contained racial hatred. I watched the whole thing.
I don't think anyone could agree with all of it,
but where was the race hatred in it?

Speaker 10 (02:12:09):
Trump has had a message of racial hate throughout this campaign,
throughout his presidency that's only a few weeks old. But
what Trump has done is he has created this racial
divide between Mexicans and Americans, through between immigrants and Americans.
So what he's done is created this divide and That's

(02:12:30):
what I mean in reference to the Hitler comment, in
that Hitler used immigration and racism as their base, and
that is what Trump has done.

Speaker 39 (02:12:39):
I'm in Alabama, Steven, I don't even know what.

Speaker 33 (02:12:42):
No, No, let me finish, let me finish.

Speaker 1 (02:12:44):
Let's let me just finish it.

Speaker 39 (02:12:46):
Okay, please finish, let me finish.

Speaker 10 (02:12:48):
For example, he was he was in he was in Alabama,
and there were rebel flags and people who were saying
racial things to protesters, and that was something that inside
of his base. And those are things I'm speaking of
refence to Hitler, not saying he is Hitler, but he's Hitler.

Speaker 3 (02:13:03):
Resk. But according to Coole Wallace, nobody's ever said that.
That's a Democrat going to to Cole Wallace, nobody's ever
said Prinsker, Yeah, I haven't heard it. Well you just
heard it. I just played a six and a half
some one minute clip and then you heard what Pritzker said.
Oh I don't, I don't. I don't compare to go
to Donald Trump. Hilter and then turns around comparison to Hitler. Look,

(02:13:26):
I don't care whether you like Donald Trumper hate him.
He's not Hitler, Okay, he's not. He's not Hitler, and
we've got to quit throwing that term around as loosely
as we do. And again, what does NAZI stand for? Nationalist? Socialist?
Hitler was a socialist. He wasn't a right winger. He
was a left winger. Let's get that straight historically. All right, Uh,

(02:13:53):
finally there's this.

Speaker 15 (02:13:56):
This was it a.

Speaker 3 (02:13:59):
This was it a particular row. Actually Victor David Hanson
was at and it was a group of that he
was addressing in a group of political forward thinkers. And
this was in two thousand and three Gang two thousand
and three. I think Mark Levin played it on a
broadcast in twenty thirteen, if I'm not mistaken, But the

(02:14:21):
former governor of carlorad Gon for a lot of years,
Richard Lamb, call him Big Lamb. But Richard Lamb down't
know if he's being tongue in cheek or he really
meant this, But either way, he laid out a formula
for how really to destroy America in the coming days ahead. Again,
this is from a two thousand and three get together

(02:14:42):
of a bunch of political and these were Democrats and Republicans,
a leader getting together. Okay, this is a conference and
I want you to hear what he said and think
about where we're at right now in this country. And
he lists seven points of how to up end America,

(02:15:02):
how to pretty much rip America apart, Seven things that
need to happen. And the spooky part is they've all
a either happened or b are happening right now. And
this is from two thousand and three. Was this a
playbook from politicians on how to tear this place apart?
Could be? I don't know, And I again, I don't
know if he's being tongue in cheek or he really

(02:15:22):
meant it, but I'll give him the benefit of the
down and saying he was being tongue in cheek, but
he nailed it. Eighth were way. But let me let
you hear this from former Colorado Governor Richard Lamb.

Speaker 9 (02:15:40):
I would like to share with you my plan to
destroy America.

Speaker 40 (02:15:44):
If you think in some do that America is too
smug or too rich to self satisfied, not diverse enough
to white bread, I have this plan.

Speaker 9 (02:15:54):
Coinbe.

Speaker 40 (02:15:55):
You know said that hal great nations rise and they
all fall. And he said in the Autopsy of History,
is all great nations commit suicide? So here's my plan
eight parts. Number one, not make it a bilingual by
cultural country. History shows us, but no bilingual bicultural country lives.

Speaker 9 (02:16:12):
At peace with itself.

Speaker 40 (02:16:14):
There's not one I believe that doesn't exist with an
incredible amount of tension and conflict, if not civil war.
My second part of my plan would be to invent
something called multiculturalism. Those would be two parts. Number one,
I would say that all cultures are created equal. That
would make no difference and wo make it impossible to
talk about such things as culture. And the second one

(02:16:37):
is that I would really try very hard to make
people continue their cultural identity.

Speaker 9 (02:16:42):
I would replace the melting pot with the salid goal.

Speaker 40 (02:16:46):
My third part of my plan would be to make
the fastest growing demographic.

Speaker 9 (02:16:49):
Group in that country the least educated.

Speaker 40 (02:16:51):
I would add a second under class to the first
under class, unassimilated, under educated, antagonistic, and then I'd have
fifty percent of them drop.

Speaker 9 (02:16:59):
Out of school, not graduate from high school.

Speaker 40 (02:17:02):
The fourth part of my plan would be to get
the big foundations to fund and big business to fund
these efforts.

Speaker 9 (02:17:08):
With lots of money.

Speaker 40 (02:17:09):
I would invest in ethnic identity and victimology. I would
get them to think about their lack of success was
only the fault of the majority. I would start a
grievance industry. The fifth part of my plan is I
would develop dual citizenship. I would promise people actually divided loyalties,
allow them to allow both vote for both VINCENTE. Fox

(02:17:31):
and George Bush. The sixth part of this is important.
I would place all of these subjects off limits. I
would make it taboo to talk about actually our criticize
this whole thing. I would make it come up with
a word like heretic used to be two hundred years ago.
Let's say we'd call it racist, and I would try
to accuse anybody of this that would object to my ideas.

(02:17:55):
My seventh part, then, I would make it impossible to
enforce our immigration laws.

Speaker 9 (02:17:59):
I would develop a mantra.

Speaker 40 (02:18:00):
Let's call it this that because immigration has been good
in the past for America, that will continue to be good.

Speaker 9 (02:18:07):
In the future.

Speaker 3 (02:18:10):
That kind of sounds like where we're at, doesn't It
kind of spooky, kind of spooky. It's working. That plan
is working. It's in full effect. It's in full effect.
We've got probably a crazy weekend coming. Of course, Halloween's
Friday Night, that can also be kind of crazy itself.

(02:18:33):
And then with if they don't get something resolved on
these food stamps, on these snap benefits. Yeah, I think
some stuff is really going to start hitting the fan
this weekend possibly, So if and pray it doesn't wherever
you are, be safe. What boy, the devil's going to
have his night in the next day, right, But be careful.

(02:18:54):
Pray beyond your guard, beyond watch do you got to do,
take care of your family, don't steal. Lean on the
Lord to provide for you. He will if you let him,
he will provide for you. King David s, I have
never seen the righteous forsaken or begging bread or their
seed begging bread. So you gotta put your eyes on Christ.

(02:19:19):
Okay more now than ever. Do what you gotta do
to prepare, be safe, take care of yourself, take care
of your family. On that note, gotta go sure check
out the websites Christian Talk at Rocks dot Nutter dot com.
You be sure to take care of yourselves, care of

(02:19:41):
your loved ones, care of your neighbors, even be kind
to your enemies. And remember God is love. See you
next time.

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