Christian Talk That Rocks with Richie L Ep 11 12 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Start secrets five four three two words, now get in.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm a discussion now line are now here's your host,
Richie L.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, that would be me. A couple of websites for
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the can, it'll be at the newscasters dot com. All right,

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it's a lot to spew out, and I'm sure I
forgot something. It's just the show keeps going various different places,
and the rankings seem to keep creeping up by the
various podcast trackers. So we like that Lord's doing something
kind of cool. He is cool, is he not? I mean,
come on, the Lord is cool. If you saw something,

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if you live on the East coast anywhere from well
even in the upper Midwest, anywhere from say Wiscnson and
then cut cross down to maybe Alabama in northern or
central Florida, you might have seen this weird kind of
glow on the horizon or maybe even higher. If you
live in the Deep South, you probably saw a weird
glow on the horizon further north. You saw it way
up higher and almost maybe you look a little bit

(02:48):
like streamers or the kind of this orange is she
redish she look or something. Well, you weren't seeing things.
You might be seeing those again here in a few nights,
because it's called a solar store, and we got hit
by one pretty hard yesterday. The fact that messed with
and still is messing with some certain types of radio

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signals and causing some little glitches with little Internet things
and so forth all around the country. People, if you've
had some issues with things in your area, that might
be the reason why I radio sound a little fuzzy
and like, hey, what's wrong with the reception on this radio?
It kind of sounds all narrow and fuzzy. What's going
on kind of boxing? My radio sounds weird. It's not

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your radio, it's this the US saw vivid that's been
parted by the way by Rachel Tribesman, NPR. This is
probably one of the very few times I will ever
read an NPR story on this show. National Public Radio
write this one down. But it's a weird time we're
living in right, Strange things are happening. The US saw
vivid northern lights as far south as Florida and more
than becoming. The Royer Burry Alice lit up the night

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sky over Monroe was Canson on Tuesday night. The northern
lights were visible as far south as Alabama and Florida. Florida.
By the way, these geomagnetic storms are what's bringing the
northern lines brought you, brought you. These are large brought
to you by the geomagnetic storms and no charge well other

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than messing up radio signals sometimes and other sensitive tech things,
and they brought it to much of the US Tuesday night.
They were Boryalis was spotted in large SWASA states including Idaho,
I album Missura or Missouri Pan I pronounce it New Mexico,
New York, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, and Washington State

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doing a large are visible as far as south as
parts of Florida, Alabami And according to the weather folks
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administrations NOAH Space Weather Prediction Center,
they said, well, we had activity tonight, a lot of
geomagnetic storm bactor. This was actually last night, according to
Sean Dahl. Now they're saying that more may be on

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the way. These geo magnetic storms, by the way, happened
when charged particles from the Sun's atmosphere interact with the
Earth's magnetic field. In other words, the Sun's kind of belching,
kind of blowing some stuff outward, and these these magnetic storms,
these solar flare things or whatever, they blast out into
the into the Solar system. And we know we're not

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that far from the Sun, uh say, compared to you know,
like Uranus or I don't know, Jupiter or those guys Saturn,
we're a lot closer. So we kind of get a
hit on this. I mean they get it too, but
we we really get it because of our proximity to
the Sun. So they call this phenomenon a coronal mass

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ejection or CME. Remember everything has has initials these days CME.
So it's a CME which was able to be seen
on E A R T H on T U S
T A Y night anyway, could be seeing them uh
here again, real real soon, according to the to the

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to the watchers here they're awaiting a third and final CME,
which they expect will arrive. They expected to arrive today
and I think it probably did. What was interesting is
the lovy missus Ella and I were kind of putting
around town today. We both had some medical appointment things
and medical deals we had to deal with, and we

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noticed some guys in certain areas up on the up
on cherry pickers or places kind of closed down like
gas stations if you couldn't go in. Well, they were
having problems with their stuff. And these guys are up
on the poles. Well, there's something going on here with
this much of ma jigger do with Flacci coach Malanga
thing and whatever. And so I saw that just around

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town here in Little Low, UH, southern southwestern Virginia. So
I think in fact they see the huge storm is
keeping uh keeping power grid and sell it operations on edge.
They're having some issues. The space Whether Prediction Center says
you a or may become visible over much in the
northern half of the country, maybe as far as south

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as Alabama and northern California, UH this evening and maybe tomorrow.
The Met Office UK National Weather Service that says you
may also be visible overre parts of Great Britain. You know,
it's likely to be obscured by a cloud cover. Well
you know they kind of foggy old London town and
all that, you know. But Noah, space fiction Weather has

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said that the four K shows you that this, uh,
this is gonna be the last big blast uh for
a little while. But who knows. Uh, these things hit
every once in a while. They say. Smartphone cameras are
better at capturing the full array of the aura than
the naked eye. So they say to go out, you know,

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a little bit after after dark, after dusk, when it's
you know, fully fully dark, kind of looked towards the horizon,
northern horizon, if you're in the further south, say south
of the Mason Dixon line, and you can still see
a pretty decent spectrum of colors. Of course, further north
you are just look up and you'll see an even
greater spectrum of colors because it tends to a little
more tense than the northern skies and the northern portions

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of of the United States. Anyway, there you go. If
you're wondering what's going on, and well, I maybe your
internet was glitching a little bit. And if you went
to the gas station and they said, we're tamper out
a closed because computers ain't working. And the guy up
there and that's coming over gonna let's say that guy
up there on Ontario. Okay, that guy up there on
the phone pole. Yeah, So things going on, the sun belching.

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Of course, a lot of what's going on here on
earth makes you want to kind of have indigestion too,
doesn't it. Yeah, let's talk about it. Let's just get
it out of the way, get it over with. Let's
just talk about it. Let's talk about it. The shutdown,
probably the Lameas shut down. Every sums up how a
lot of folks feel about Congress right about now, being
puted by John Loftus. He is editor at large of

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the Daily Caller. And there's a reason why Congress has
approval rating across the political spectrum. Has been under water
for years. The historic shutdown, which has kept the government
shutter for over forty days and counting, captures it perfectly. Now.
It's important to note that in terms of Congress not

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doing much of anything, if you want to look at
the shutdown in those terms for years, I mean, in
the early days of our republicers, half the guys were farmers,
I mean they wouldn't do anything for six or eight months.
I mean for years, probably up until the early nineteen hundreds,
these guys were gone for you know, six seven, eight
months out of the year. Well they were farmers, most

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of them, a lot of them, and doing other things,
and you know, this is just sort of a side
being a lawmaker was somewhat of a side gig. You know.
They were lawyers and farmers and merchants and whatever. Some
were plantation or some weren't, YadA YadA, so they had
to go back home and work. So this Congress gig

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really for probably the first hundred years of our or
so of our nation was, or at least maybe the
first eighty was really sort of a kind of a
side gig for a lot of these guys. And then
right around the Civil War era, they you know, started
hanging out in town a lot a lot longer and
became more of a more of a fuller time gig.
But for years and years and even then a lot

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of times they would you know, come and go at
long length. Of course, this was the days of horse
and buggy and slow moving trains and all that really
not to you into the nineteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds.
So you see these people hanging out in town for
a very long time and sometimes buying houses in the
area and moving to the area. But prior to that,
I mean, you know, they had to travel pretty great

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distances in some cases, you know, across the nation. They
were from California or whatever, and a lot of the
would stay at places like what you see the old
Willard's Hotel and things of that nature there in d
C and in the Arlington area. But so just keep
that in perspective. But there's a reason why Congress's approval
rating across the political spectrum has been under water for years.

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Historic shutdown kept the government shut it for over forty days,
and it looks like they're going to be reopening here
just any minute now. But now the Senate has agreed
to a deal to end it and all that and
House to do anything and Donald Trump will will sprinkle
his magic dust on it and then blah blah while
I magically were open whatever. It's becoming clear that there

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was no really political winners neither side of the aisle,
only losers. And as is the usual case, the American
people lost the biggest thanks to the dysfunction and fectlessness
of Congress. For all of their fight, Democrats didn't gain anything.
Eight senators folded like a cheap house of cards and
agreed with Republicans to eventually vote on an extension to

(11:54):
the Formal Care Act subdidies. And actually what they've kind
of voted on was was more or less presented what
like the second or third a few days into this thing,
and Damns were like, no, heck, no, forget it, stick it.
And well, they eventually went for it, but they got

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in return. There was no extended healthcare subsets, but simply
a promise to vote and a whole lot of angry progressives,
some of whom are now calling for a coup against
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Yeah, he's in hot water
with his own party. Their deal won't go over with
the base as well, which has been begging for an
all out political dog fight with the Trump administration since
the very day he was inaugurated. And you could argue

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he's breaking the Dams monopoly on advice columns and hotakes
and anyway, Mike Johnson, and what did they gained Republican's
game from the shutdown After a speaker of the House
sideline lawmakers for weeks, nothing much besides some deserved heat
from Georgia represented Margore Taylor Green, who called Johnson's refusal

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to convene the House and embarrassment. She's not one of
the men's words, is she? She kind of let you
know that is some people think she's absolutely crazy. Maybe
up against the line. She called Johnson's refusal to convene
the House and embarrassment. In fact, they actually lost a
huge ground in their fight to trim away the entrenched

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federal bureaucracy. Daily Coller Senior editor Amber Duke pointed out
in a newsletter Tuesday that the shutdown amounted to a
GOP flop. The deal to reopen the government, which had
already been on the table, by the way, since the
two weeks into the shutdown, includes the reversal of the
Trump administration introductions in force that can thousands of federal
workers who are approximately four thousand bureaucracks laid off thanks to

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the Office of Management Budget or the OMB. The DOGE whatever,
Director Russell Allot will be reinstated with back pay and
word she Yet further RIfS are now banned, and this
continuing resolutions had to expire in January. So, as I've said,
the whole thing was unnecessary. They've been following the constitution.

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The House doesn't need to send it to the Senate.
They can say thanks, we got this, and that's the
end of it. But you see, the two parties like
to play this dance in this game, and then everybody
else is called the middle of their dysfunction. Quote the
GOP hand to them a completely unnecessary win. And now
as we look forward to the next Ciara would be

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surprised if a ban on IRFS becomes standard language and
spending bills. It's a horrible president. It rips away one
of the only bright spots the shutdown that wasn't helpful
for either party, She wrote. Democrats caved in on a
major issue that their base cares about healthcare and fighting
the Trump administration by any means necessary. Republicans caved on
a major issue that their base cares about, firing useless bureaucrats.

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And what do the American people get in return, Well,
not a lot. Kind of a very busy travel season.
Well flyers, airlines, and airports have been dealing with chaos
brought on by furloughed air traffic controllers was the flights
canceled roughly six percent of flights per day. Airlines and
customers will soon have to deal with a rippling effect
that might extend all the way until Thanksgiving. Even though

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the shutdown is for practical purposes basically over, they still
gotta get these airlines still got to kind of reshuffle
the decks and get caught up when manion federal workers
weren't getting paid. So in theory they're not going to
be spending much money, of course, which will have riple
effect in the economy to some extent whole some orgel

(15:30):
Ais and lots of our jazz. So anyway, there's a
little bit of ripple effect. But these folks will probably
get their checks here in a few days, a couple
of weeks whatever, which you know, easier said than done.
You got bills to paying kids to feed and all that.
So not a lot was accomplished here, just just gamesmanship, dramatics,

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drama which both parties seem to really really enjoy. I
think probably the biggest loser on a personal perspective, just
I mean from from just the point of an individual,
it's probably one chuck Schumer. We're gonna talk about that
because he's well, you know, Ruggins don't like him anyway. Now,

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a lot of people in his own party don't like him.
I don't know what old Chuck's gonna do. Might he
mightn't want to retire with old Nancy Pelosi. I don't know.
They can have a big retirement party for both of them.
You know, give him their goal watch and whatever, Pat
him on the back, and I'm go home, go fishing
and play with grandkids. Don't we got more?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
More?

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there now here's your host, Richie el So the least

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popular dem Senator ever, Schumer's poll numbers are plumbing to
record lows. If they want to hear a clip from
CNN's Harry Nton. Here just a second spring Born by
Jason Cohen, Daily Caller News Foundation, CNN Chief data analyst
Harry Enton said on Tuesday that cinemonority leader Chuck Schumer's
popularity stands at a record low for Democrats Senate leaders,

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dating back to at least nineteen eighty five. That was
during the Reagan era forty years ago. Some Dems are
calling for Schumer's ouster after eight Democrats advanced to stop
got bill to reopen the government amid the longest shutdown ever. Well,
in terms of you know, the kind of a shutdown,
Andon said on CNN his new central iss Shumer had
a minus four popularity. A minus four popularity, It's like

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he went into the negative territory below zero. It's how
do you do that? I don't know. It's somehow or
the other that that happened according to the polling data whatever.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's pretty wild, pretty wild. Let me let you hear
the clip. Yeah, a lot of people mad well, Gop
was mad, Addie. But I mean he's got everybody mad
at him right now, Gop, the Dems, some of the
more extrements of the dem Party. He's he's kind of

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He's not gonna be getting too many Christmas cards this year,
I think from anybody, I think Chuck's Chuck's on an
audio list for a lot of folks this year.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
I don't know what about Democrats nationwide feeling about Chuck Schumer.
I think the word of the day is he's terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible,
to quote another Charles Barkley, when it comes to Chuck Schumer.
Look at this least popular dem Senate leader ever. I
looked at all of the polls going all the way
back since nineteen hundred and eighty five. The one was

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the lowest rating among Democrats is in fact, Chuck Schumer.
Look at this, He's underwater with Democrats, his own party.
He's underwater. He's at minus four points.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
That makes him the.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
Least popular guy for a dem Senate leader going all
the way back since the mid nineteen eighties.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
At least, do.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
You have a sense of why, why why?

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Why why?

Speaker 7 (20:37):
It's because Democrats they want a fighter, they want a fighter.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
That's why I take.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
A look here, Democrats Dems in Congress do too little
to a post Trump during the first term, it was
just forty six percent in twenty seventeen. That's the percentage
of Democrats who said that the Demson Congress are doing
too little to a post down Trump. Look at where
we are now sixty nine percent. That is an increase
of get this twenty three points. The super super duper

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majority of Democrats believe that the Democrats in Congress are
not doing enough to oppose Donald Trump. And that of
course is a big, big, big, huge criticism of Chuck Schumer.
And that is why he is underwater.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
I knew you were gonna do the dip, all right.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
I always think that I need my exercise in the morning.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
There has been talks of a challenge to Schumer.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
What are you saying on that front?

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Who looks like they're in place to do it?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (21:33):
So you know, you see this opening slide here, and
you see, of course that Chuck Schumer is underwater with
Democrats nationally. But of course, the ultimate way to get
Chuck Schumer out of office is to beat him in
New York State. To how do New York State democrats
feel about Chuck Schumer? And take a look here the
net favorable among New York Democrats. Chuck Schumer is above
water with the Democrats in his home state, but just

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by sixteen points. Look at Alexandria Coshio Kretez running way ahead.
If she decides to challenge Chuck Schumer come twenty two,
twenty eight, she's got a real leg up on the competition.
I dare say at this point she would be the
favorite to beat him, which would be something that would
just blow my mind, even just a few years ago,
giving the Chuck Schumer of course, as a New York
born bred type of guy.

Speaker 8 (22:11):
Yeah, those are incredible.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
Look at that thirty points ahead, My goodness, gracious.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, and a lot of folks think that AOC is
probably going to be gunning for his gig because she'll
be old enough next go around. Pretty soon, she'll be
able to go for his to go for his spot.
He's been in there since nineteen eighty two, forty three years.
I mean, these guys, this is another reason for term limits.

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And the only way these guys usually leave the Senate
is if they die or gals is if they die
or somehow are just kind of forced out because you know,
things like this, they just they just fumble it so bad.
Everybody's like, you know, what, time to just cash it
in and retire. Being reported by Mark Swanson, Democrats strategist

(23:03):
David Axelrod said Tuesday that Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer
is in bigger trouble now with his party's far at
left wing, and predicted Schumer won't remain Democrat leader in
the Senate by twenty twenty seven. He's probably right. This
is from David Axelrod. He made the remarks on CNN
after eight members of the Senate Democratic Caucus broke ranks
to strike a deal with Republicans reopened the government. He said,

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I think he's been in trouble. I think he's in
bigger trouble now, Axelrod said. When I asked if Schumer
is in trouble here with the left flank of the party,
he said, Senator Schumer has been there since nineteen eighty two.
My guess is that he won't be leader of the
party in twenty twenty seven after this election lists something
I'm talking about the midterms unless something really surprising happens.

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Republican lawmakers branding the government stopped at the Schumer shut
Down'm blaming the Senate leader's deference to his party's far
left wing, and that label kind of stuck with him
a little bit in the early days, but as things
drug on, I mean, everybody was getting hated on I
mean Republicans too. In fact that some polls Republicans look
worse than the Dems. Although Schumer voted against the bipartists

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to continued resolution, extrots of the political fallouts still leaves
him in serious trouble, he said, quote we're talking about
the internal strife within the Democratic Party, Acerots said, which
he's confirming. There is a lot of people saying, oh,
there's all civil war in them. There's all civil war
of strife going on the Democrat Party. Well, David Axroz
says there is. The National Republican senatorl Committee said the
uproar has become a Schumer versus Bernie Sanders proxy war

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costs the twenty twenty six Senate map a new litmus
test for Democratic hopefuls. Quote that Chuck Schumer versus Bernie
Sanders proxy war is raising across the twenty twenty six
Senate map, and calls for an end to Schumer's reign
are the radical left's new battle cry. NRSC communications director
Johanna Rodriguez said she predicted Schumer's biggest problem will be
electing enough Democrats that will let him stay in power.

(24:47):
That's probably true, and there's a lot of there's more
and more talk and I'm seeing them from both sides
of the aisle that AOC is probably going to be
gunning for his gig. We'll have to see, we'll have
to see. But yeah, I think he's uh, I think
old Chucky Schumer as days are as a leader there

(25:09):
in the Senator probably probably number It could be wrong,
mind folio, but I doubt it. Let's go to a break.
He's just, he's really, I mean, I'm just I've seen
a lot of stuff from Dems on social media. Well,
of course Republicans don't like him, but a lot of
folks in his own party just not liking the way

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that he handled this whole thing. And they're and they're
blaming him for Democrats not getting what they want out
of this. Of course, the the Dems that crossed the line,
the eight or so that crossed the line and through
in with the Republicans that okay, we say, uncle, yeah,
they're catching heat too. Well. The government one way or
the other is open. We've got more Christian talked at

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Speaker 3 (27:14):
Well, one of the things that a lot of Dems insist,
uh one issue is far more important than climate change, schools,
gun violence, healthcare, even inflation. And that's fighting the Orange Man.
That's fighting the Orange man, no matter what, no matter what.

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We've got to shut down the Orange Man. And that
is that that's that's just it seems like it's the
whole mantra become the whole mantra of the majority of
the dams is let's shut down Trump, let's let's halt Trump,
let's stop Trump. Orange Man bad. Okay, maybe we're not

(28:06):
walking on water either, but we're not as bad as
him some some form of that. And it seemed to
work last Tuesday night, Tuesday the previous week. It seemed
to work. Of course it worked. That's gonna work in
blue and purple states, but even in a few red
states dims it due to bad And of course they

(28:26):
address some kitchen table issues, which is things aren't more expensive,
they just are now. Granted, the rate at which inflation
is creeping upwards has slowed down pretty significantly. But the
thing is, it's when Trump came into office, inflation was
at a pretty high rate. I mean, it was at
a pretty i should say, a pretty high up altitude,

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you know, and it's and it's still creeping upwards, and
wages aren't keeping up with the costs of rent and
the costs of groceries and the costs of well, you
name it. Gas has come down some, that's good. A
few things have trickled, have come back and gotten into
saner territory. I know my part of the country. Eggs

(29:08):
have gotten cheaper a little about your part of the country.
But here kind of back to what they were, We're
going to say, to what they were. But for Uncle
Joe took office, but a little closer than they than
they've been in a while. So a few things have
have gone down in price or gotten some kind of
sane levels, but the vast majority of things are holding
where they were, or they're going up. And usually when

(29:29):
prices of things go up, they tend to stay up
or creep up. I mean, that's just how it works.
I don't know why entirely, but that's just the way
it is. I'm sure there's a thousand reasons, but well,
I mean, if manufacturers retailers saying thing, get that out
of something, that's what they'll get out. I've also noticed
some shrinkflation. There's a brand of sausages that we like
to buy. They're they're the largest sausages. They are good

(29:52):
for grilling or I like to use them and making
some job balia or something like that. Put them on
a grill. I leave the brand aimless. They used to
give you seven in a pack for a certain price tag.
Now they only give you six for the same price.
Shrink Flation, you know, I'm noticing some of that. And

(30:15):
if you open a great big bag of chips, I
don't care if it's a store brand or Joe Blow's
brand of potato chips. Have you noticed about two thirds
of the bag is air And they used to say
seven point five ounces, seven and a quarter Now they say,
you know, five and a half five three quarter ounces,

(30:38):
five in a quarter ounces. Have you noticed that but
the same price. Yeah, it's not just me. Okay, so
we're seeing the little games and of course, you know,
manufactures me to play with certain food items. So, uh,
that's a kitchen table topic. Health Care going up. Of course,
Affordable Healthcare Act, which we were promised we'll bring the

(31:02):
cost of health care down. It did not, and as
many predicted, it would raise it up. Well, here we are.
This is why there's been a debate over supplements. Well,
people are just they're not gonna be able to afford
health care if we don't give them supplements. Well, so
you're finally man to Obamacare is a is a boondoggle? Okay,
of course he leave that part out a lot of times,
but you know there it is some weird It just

(31:25):
popped up on my computer. So uh, in line of
all this anyway, Uh, but this is but this is
a backdrop, you know, it's kitchen table issues. Yeah, there
are people who are saying, well, okay, we can do
something about some of this. The rent is still too
blank and high, so we'll we'll do something back. Of

(31:46):
course they don't say specifically. Well, they just say they're
going to but they don't say how. I didn't hear.
I didn't hear a whole lot of how out of
spam burger. I just heard a lot of what she
was going to do once she became governor. I thought, okay,
how put meat on the Well, she wouldn't, she couldn't.
It's all talk. But there are people that buy the talk.

(32:09):
They've smoked enough weed, they're on enough medications that mess
up their brain power. I'm not joking, being serious, and
they they goes okay and vote for these people. I
don't know. We start having drug testing before somebody votes.
I don't know. Uh, we're doing good just to have

(32:31):
people show IDs. You ain't got to show an idea
to get on a plane. You got to show an idea.
To get utility is hooked up, you got to show
an ID. You know, to go to doctors always usually
you got to show an ID.

Speaker 7 (32:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Sometimes go into certain types of movies. You got to
show an ID to buy alcohol you gotta show an
ID to copp when he stops showing the road. You know,
if you're driving, you got to sho an ID for
so many things. But if you're show an ID for voting,
that is racious. But it's not all the other times. Okay, Okay,
I get the logic. Yeah, still say it's but anyway,

(33:01):
I know I sound like Red Foreman on the what's
that that seventies show? Oh, you kids are on drugs? Yeah,
I think Red might be onto something. Anyway. It's more
important to climate change, schools, gun violence, health care, and inflation,
most significant, more significant than the economy, taxes and illegal immigration, abortion,

(33:23):
higher broady than crying morals, political divisions. It's fighting the
Orange Man, President Donald Trump. It's holding on to holding
on to that with everything, holding on to that. We've
got to beat the Orange Man. Now. That's a result
of pulling down by Atlanta Journal Constitution. Democrat voters in

(33:44):
the state of Georgia. Full twenty percent of the Democrats
responding said standing up to Donald Trump and Maga Republicans
is their most important issue. Forget the rest of it,
Forget the fact we've got thirty seven plus traeon dollars
in debt and growing a time bomb that will blow
our economy out of the water one day. Forget that

(34:06):
that the Chicoms are probably eyeball in Taiwan to the
point where they're about ready to jump it. Never forget that.
Forget the Middle East is on fire. You forget that.
Forget we've probably got terror sales in this country. Just wait, well,
there's no probable to it.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
We do.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Just waiting for that right phone call from the right
you know person and our group of persons, and they're
gonna do their thing. Forget the fact that we have
more league immigrants cross over our border in the past
half full of years and a lot of years combined.
Forget the human traffickings at record levels. Forget that people
are dying from fentanyl at like war levels like we

(34:45):
haven't seen since World War Two in terms of just
deaths of Americans. Forget all that, Forget these issues. Now,
it's we got to stop the Orange Man, Orange Man bad.
I don't remember with everything the guy has done either,

(35:06):
but some things he's done, I like, yeah, no taxes
on tips above a certain level or below a certain level. Well,
that's pretty good, pretty good deal. Not having to pay
taxes twice in ess, it's on your your social security,
social security disability. And I kind of like that. Porter

(35:27):
seems to be a lot better shape. I mean, there
still need some improvement down there, but it's a heck
a lot of barrier shape. And it was I like
that criminal gangs, foreign criminal gangs that have ensconced themselves
illegally in our nation are being deported. I like that.
That's a good thing. Drug runners in the Caribbean from

(35:48):
Venecuela getting blown out of the water. I kind of
like that. Yeah, that's pretty cool. The fact that he
gave the Iranians what for when they were bombing, shooting
missiles soeveral months back into Israel and then you know,
it took some of their nuke sides out.

Speaker 11 (36:04):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
I like that. Yeah, I like that. I can I
argue with that. That's pretty decent. Kind a little to
the government fab but it's a band aid. I mean,
come on, he hasn't done enough there, and he can

(36:26):
only do so much. He's just the president. He's not
the king, thank god, no need a king. By the way,
our original king, no King's Day is July the fourth. Kids.
If you're wondering, that's what that Fourth of July things
about every year? You know, it's not just about hot
dogs and fireworks and firecrackers and you know, doing stupid
stuff with explosive devices. That's the original. No King's Day,

(36:48):
you know. Oh, by the way, this Sunday, there's going
to be well, it's a series on PBS about the
American Revolutionary War. Ken Burnes, the guy did the Civil War.
Thing supposed to be six nights, I think in a row.
I'm not mistaken PBS. I don't have exact times in

(37:09):
front of me, but yeah, he did it. He did
a whole thing on that be interesting to see, you know,
his take on it, A plan on watching it if
it's you know, it's good checking it out. That that
starts again this Sunday. If you're wondered wanting something educational
on TV besides something mindless, uh, you know, people being

(37:33):
paid to a dramatic and and dumb on some kind
of island and falling in love with another person every
five minutes, and you know, one of those dumb reality
shows and all the drama.

Speaker 12 (37:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
If you want something besides that, you probably do. A
report from town Hall said that. The poll found that
among likely Georgia Democrat Party primary votvoters, seventeen percent cited
the inflation and the cause of livings are top concerns.
About fifteen percent said the economy and jobs are number one.
You know, when it comes to standing up to Donald
Trump and Maga Republicans, not just the Trump sure, but
Magi Republicans. About twenty percent in the k this is

(38:14):
their top issue. Forget the other stuff, it's mag Republicans
and Trump. Okay, Ford said so, despite the higher prices
at the grocery store and elsewhere, Democratic voters in the
Peach State believe that the Orange Man what is bad
is the most pressing issue facing them today. Yes, they

(38:36):
are concerned about economic issues. When you combine the numbers
for inflation and jobs or the fact that they are
still fixated on the president shows how deeply well some
people call it Trump arrangement centers. This article calls it,
calls it runs amongst the Dems. I used to think
that Trump arrangements, said, I was like, well, that's kind
of bloney sandwich. I don't know about that. I'm earned

(38:58):
to wonder maybe maybe a thing, Sorry to wonder if
that's a thing I really am. Of course she had
some of the never trumpers amongst Repubs too. They had
his guys. Again, I'm no big flag weaver for the
gether thing. He's not likes things, he said, and none.
I'm like this fifty year mortgage thing. Really, Now, for

(39:20):
commercial maybe that's where he's getting that from. For commercial properties,
you know, something along those lines is not unheard of.
But for somebody buying a house in the burbs, yeah,
I mean, I'm no real estate that expert. My late
father was a home builder. He'd never gone for something

(39:43):
like that. I can tell you that much is coming
to been in Morgen Champney's he worked with in the
North Texas area, Dallas, Fort Worth region and beyond, would
have said yeah no. In fact, they tended to prefer
the fifteen and twenties over the thirties. But you know
they got the thirty year mortage. I mean, people will
be dead by then in some cases. And the sad

(40:03):
reality is there's a lot of people can't afford a
home till they're forty. But here's what most of that
really lies. Gang boys and girls, shild, the ball ages,
the Fildgrimm can't do a whole lot about it because
a lot of that's local. It's state's county, it's local.
And we see cities like Rice used to live, like Austin,
a lot of the big cities. What in these bigger

(40:26):
counties in areas, what they like to do is I
mean sometimes they get the property tax rates capped, which
they did in Texas, so they get real creative because
they still, you know, they need that property tax money.
Of course, a lot of it's how they fund the schools,
and of course schools always need more money. You will
never ever hear a politician saying, taxpayers, we want you
to know that you've given too much money to our schools.

(40:47):
So we're gonna give some of it back, or we're
gonna put some of it in an escroal account because
you just paid too much. You will never hear that.
You'll always hear we just we just we got to
have more money for the children. We've got to have
more money for the schools. We just don't have enough
money for the schools. Now, look at their test scores.
This shells you right there, the kids, and we need

(41:08):
more money. We need more money. We need more teachers
with PhDs and master's degrees because the poor kids just
aren't getting it. We got to have We've just got
to have more money for the schools. That's all there
is to it. So what they do is they look
at you, mister and mus's homeowner. Okay, now only do

(41:30):
they might maybe raise opinion on local sales taxes can
go up too much because it looks like they're hammering
the poor people, which they are anyway, And they go
do it indirectly with a privatey tax increases because the
poor people rent in the apartments and rent the houses, well,
their rents go up to see with the privatey taxes.
So what some state lawmaker says, look enough with the
property taxes, We're going to give some of the governors
that run on property tax relief. And sometimes they offer

(41:52):
and sometimes state legislators offer it. So then the counties
and the cities go, well, that gone. We know we're
kept at such and such percent. We can't really, we
can't really raise the taxes any higher because you know,
we can only tax at four point two percent on
a home, so on a person's car and oh wait wait,

(42:17):
I know, let's overinflate the value of the house. Yeah,
let's creep it up. I mean, some homeowners like that
because when it's time to sell, well, here it comes
mister and missus real estate broker, and they say, well,
you know, I'm looking at the county records here on
your house or the city records, and well, yeah, I

(42:39):
mean your house four years ago was appraised at one
hundred and twenty thousand dollars for your little three bedroom
track house. But my gosh, right now they've appraised it
at two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And see, and
they'll like that because when they go to sell, that's
gonna look great. They can get more for the house. Yeah,
and we'll get more in property taxes because we've raised

(43:01):
the value of the house. We over inflate the value
on our appraisal and compare do the fair market value
with I don't know, places like San Francisco and Chicago
and Orlando and stuff in Charlotte, North Carolina. Well, see,
we can match those prices and we can just say, well, look,
you know you're you're just being competitive with the other
big cities. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that so that

(43:23):
way we can get more priverty taxes. We'll just double
the value of our house even though it's artificially inflated.
We won't tell them. So that's a little trick, maybe
minus the evil laughs, but probably not. That's your local
politicians at tax praiser people and the tax folks do
in your state, your county, and your city. So you

(43:47):
have these way over inflated property values for cracker boxes
in the Burbs. I mean, come on, three and fifty
four and fifty a half a million for our cracker
box in the Burbs, are you kidding me? So that
that's what they do. They overflate. And of course, you know,
anybody under the age of I don't know, forty five
who doesn't have a lot stuck back or another house

(44:08):
to sell to help get into them, maybe a newer house,
to go from a two bedroom or three bedroom to
a three bedroom or four bedroom. They unless you're in
that category, you can't do it. You can't do it.
So you're stuck renting, you're living with your folks, And
an extremely high number of people in their twenties and
thirties these days are living with their folks, or they're

(44:31):
living with their auntie or uncle Ray Ray or whoever
and they're stuck. They can't afford to move out. They
just can't. And the property values are just too high. Now,
you know, in some places out in the mistakes now
in the countryside, and some more economically depressed parts of

(44:52):
the country, Yeah, you can buy a decent house for
one hundred, three hundred and forty hundred fifty thousand dollars
if you look. And I'm not talking about some broke
down four clock. I mean, I'm talking about, you know,
pretty decent house three four or five bitter Mouse if
you look in the right places. But if you live
near one of the big metro areas and one of
the big metro areas, yeah you're good luck. I mean,

(45:13):
it's sort of a patchwork problem across the nation, but
that's usually where it's the worst. And that's why, in
large part, there's not much a government can do about that.
Federal government anyway, state local governments could, but they tend
not to, because you know, why strangle the golden goose
when it's still giving you golden coins at least at
the moment, that's not gonna last forever. And housing has
become unaffordable, there's another reason it's been driven up. We'll

(45:34):
get into that a little bit later on in the broadcast.
There's another thing of phenomenon that is driving that up
as well, in terms of like apartments costs, the rent
apartments and rental homes, so on and so forth, rental properties.
But that's one of the games it's being played. But
back to the meanwhile, back at the ranch of the
Trump haters. I mean, look, here's the bottom line. The

(46:04):
the Range Man is not going to be in office forever.
He will be out of office. I mean this poll
we're taken, I don't know, in eighteen sixty one, maybe
November of eighteen sixty we've been reading in a new

(46:27):
poll out of Georgia, Democrats say there are single most
important issues standing up to Abraham Lincoln and anti slavery Republicans.
I don't know. Uh, maybe in some ways, not a
lot has changed. I'm not putting the Orange Man in
the same category as a Lincoln. Of course, he probably
would put himself there in George Washington, but he might

(46:50):
and he seems to have hinted that he's good of
a president's best president. Since those guys are maybe equal,
I don't know, I don't think so. But but he's
not the worst present we've ever had. And I've lived
long enough to have lived under some pretty lousy ones,
and I can tell you right now from my experience,
ain't the worst, ain't the beast, but it ain't the worst. Okay.

(47:11):
So a lot of people that I mean, I see
so much stuff on social media, and I'm not here
to be an apologist for the guy.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I'm not a big flagwaiver. I don't have a I
don't have a red Maga hat that I walk around in,
nor does Lovely missus all for that matter. He's just
a guy, and I don't always agree with him. He's
done some good things, he's done some things. I'm like, yeah,
I don't know, dude. But again, me being the pesky

(47:39):
independent that I am and not real thrilled with either party.
By the way, we're about forty three percent now of
the electric acording the latest numbers i've seen. Uh. And
of course both parties try to couch out to us independence.
I get that, but he's he doesn't have horns on
his head, not to any christ He's really not. I think,

(48:04):
as far as presidents go, he's.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
So so.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I told buy a lot of the hype about the guy.
I just don't He's done some good things. I like
some of what he's done so far. I think there's
some things he needs to do that he's not done,
and I don't know if he ever will. And granted
the concerition limits is authoriti and there's only some things
he can do. Anyhow, we need to understand this about presidents.

(48:34):
They are limited because we have a limited government. So
in terms of bringing down to rant train, much he
can do, there's much the Republicans in Congress do. There's
much the Democrats can do, and they're gonna sit there
and harp about it. A lot of that goes back
to the states. Even some of the Obolmacare stuff goes
back to the states. A lot of the estate issues,
it's not federal government issues. They really don't have. I mean,

(48:55):
it's not their jurisdics. There's not the ballparks, not much
they can say or do, so it goes back to
the states. This is why local politics is so important.
Everybody focuses upstream. I get that, but you better start
looking downstream because that's where a lot of Shenanigans are
going on. A lot of crazy folks look downstream. I

(49:19):
think more and more folks are waking up to that fact.
But look at your local government's, your city council's, county allermen,
state government. There's a lot of crazy junk going on.
You've got a communist now running New York City. All right.
I saw some story. I said, oh, he's going to

(49:39):
be betting the need of trumpe little bit. He had
had some kind of phone call. He admitted he's going
to need a little help from Trump and blah blah blah, Okay,
yeah whatever. Maybe I don't know. This is uh, this
is all games, whole shutdown thing. Games. We don't need games.

(50:02):
We need seriousness. We do need to get a handle
on spending within our government. It is way too much.
Apparently there are politicians are getting that thirty seven trillion dollars.
Is that not enough spending for you? In terms of
debt that our great grandchildren will be paying off, possibly
their children paying off. I mean, it's insane, and nobody

(50:29):
in either party seems to have any real world idea
this plan on how to solve this stuff. Trump's Trump'su's
putting a band aid on it with the with the terrorists.
If those hold and I said that he is his
authority to do terrorists, Well, it's really not even constitutional.

(50:49):
But legally speaking, the concerts together, the president a little
bit of authority how to do a little bit of
some of that. But really it's Congress has to do that.
And again where it's Congress, and nobody likes Congress. And
what are they doing? Oh yeah, that's right. They're having games.
They're they're playing games. They're doing stuff that is not
even necessary. And here we set and we have handed

(51:13):
the keys through our republic over to these two private clubs.
Look how that's working out? See definition of insanities. Keep
doing the same thing over and over again and next time,
hoping that the results are different than they never are,
are they?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
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Speaker 13 (53:12):
Well.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Joe Rogan, who's got about what forty million viewers subscribers
to this podcast whatever, He's warning that the celebration of
the Charlie Kirk assassination and all this kind of other stuff.
So there's been recent polls that come out in the
past couple of months or so a month and a
half since then that show that a lot of Americans

(53:37):
are okay with killing somebody you kind of politically disagree
with it. That's kind of all good. Yeah, disturbing as
that is. What about Jason Cohen Daily Color News Foundation
podcast host Joe Rogan said on The Joe Rogan Experience Tuesday,
the American celebration of the September ten assassination of Turning
Point USA founder Charlie Kirk reflected a nation proceeding toward

(53:59):
a civil war. Now, let me interject here, I hope
him pray not. I hope him pray not. Is it plausible?
You know, I think it is, sadly, as a student
of history, is it plausible? It sure is, because I
haven't I mean argument, the nation has been this divided
since right before the Civil War, since probably the late

(54:21):
eighteen fifties. And we know what happened in the early
eighteen sixties, and that civil war, it's going to get
technical about it was a war between predominantly Northern Republicans
versus predominantly Southern Democrats. It was Republicans fighting democrats largely
a little bit of a few exceptions there fighting Southern democrats.
I mean, these statues of Confederates are Southern Democrats. You

(54:44):
want to know why many Democrats want to see those
statues come down. They're trying to erase their past. Those
were Southern Democrats. Those weren't Southern Republicans. In fact that
there were very few Republicans in the South at all
right before the Civil War and during the Civil War
very few. There were few, but there weren't many. And
the northern Democrats were kind of about midway through the

(55:05):
war were kind of said, you know, why don't we
just go ahead and just call it quits and just
let us let's let's have the Confederate States do their
thing and we'll do our thing, and just you know,
call it quits. And you know, there was anti war democrats,
so to speak, and not all in the North were
like that, but somewhere, And that's that's really what I mean,

(55:26):
if you want to boil it down, that's really what
it was. That's really what it was. And I hope
that we had learned something from that horrific moment in history.
I mean, yeah, good thing was that the Union was saved,
slavery was abolished. It's a good thing. But gosh, if

(55:47):
we didn't learn from from the bloodiest war we've ever
fought to present, six hundred and thirty five plus thousand casualties,
well dead, over a million casualties. I mean, we didn't
learn from that moment in history. I don't know what'll
teach us that we hopefully will never go down the
shoad ever again. But could we? Is it within the

(56:10):
realm of possibility? Sally? I think it probably is. I
hate to say that. I'm not predicting we're going there,
you know, sort of the Lord say what's going to happen.
I'm not promhisying it. I'm praying that it never We
aren't stupid enough to do that again. But you know, individuals,
multiple individual fire from their jobs online comments either rejoice

(56:31):
to get about Kirk's assassination or tagging him in the aftermath.
Rogan's on his podcast on the scale of one to
civil war, he put the US at around seven because
of this celebratory reaction to Kirk's killing. Let me let
you hear the clip about three minutes long on his show.
I don't know who the guest was that he had
on there at that particular moment, but it's an interesting conversation.

(56:55):
Of course, Joe Rogan does not want to shy away
from controversy at all. I already commentator on Fox Newsday.
I was just having to watch a bet of Fox News.
Just watched it a while so kind of see what
they're yaging on. And one of the one of the
commentaries on the panel, she was like, Oh, this is
irresponsible for him to be talking about this and this
dangerous and everything. Oh no, he's being honest. It's kind

(57:17):
of where we're at. I mean, I mean, you know,
this guy's got arguably the most popular and perhaps the
most influential podcasts on the planet at the moment, and
he reads a lot of emails and talks a lot
of people. Uh, sitting there in the middle of Austin, Texas,
and I can and you know, when you see things

(57:38):
like what people put in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination,
he kind of makes you scratch your head and go, really,
this is where we're at. Is this where we've come?
It's uh, it gets a little scary. Let me let
you hear the clip.

Speaker 13 (57:57):
Charlie kirk gets shot and people are so celebrating, like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You want people to die that you disagree with? Like,
where are we right now on the scale of one
to two civil war? Where are we?

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Are we at seven?

Speaker 13 (58:13):
Because I thought we were at five. I there were
like four, four or five. But after Charlie Kirkton, I'm like, oh,
we might be like seven. This might be like step
seven on the way to a bonafide civil war. As
soon as you start celebrate regular people celebrating somebody getting
murdered in front of their wife and kid on television,

(58:33):
in front of the whole world. As soon as you
celebrate that, like, man, you're in dark territory. You're in
dark territory. And if the worst thing you could say
about that guy is that he said some things I
disagree with, and you're celebrating that he got shot in
the neck in front of the world. Whoa, And you

(58:55):
work at an insurance company. This is nuts, and you
thought it was okay to say on Instagram this is nuts.
This is nuts?

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Like what are you guys on Like what's happening here
estrogen bills. I think it's adderall.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
I think there's a lot of folks out there, high productivity,
folks that are on amphetamines. You're an amphetamine person, you know,
which is why they're so mean, Like amfetamine people are mean.

Speaker 13 (59:27):
Weed people are like huh. We people are like, well,
you know, man, Like she's in a bubble and like
the people she's around, they all think it's the right
thing to do that you you know, you you have
the platform, and you know it's right. Like you don't
know what's right. I don't know what's right. Nobody knows
what's right. The only way you find out what's right

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is you got to talk to people and you all
you listen to like their logical arguments about something. Oh okay, hey,
you got a good point. I never thought about it
that way. But if you can't do that, then you
never figure it out. And if instead of of doing that,
you decide the other people can't talk, or you make
up some facts, or you edit some video together to
make it look like somebody said something they totally didn't say.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Have you seen it?

Speaker 13 (01:00:11):
You've seen the like what they edited Jamie. Do you
can you find it real quick an example of it
so we could see it because it's so nuts, Like,
how did you think you were going to get away
with this? But this is some thing done so many times.
They did that with that very Fine People hoax where
they tried to pretend that he was saying that some
of the neo Nazis are very fine people. That's not

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what he said. They cut edited out of that, and
then Obama was saying that during the campaign for Kamala Harris,
did you call it white nashls very five people? Like
are you saying that on the campaign trail? Like that's crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Wow? Yeah, it's the main sting media do in the
little editing, and then of course they give those little
talking points, those little five second verbs to their favorite
politicians and then say stuff that's not and he's referring
to you. You should go check it out. Joe Rogan's
referring to affect The Guardian. I think it was a
UK Guardian if I'm not mistaken that pointed it out

(01:01:13):
where they made it. They edited clip and it was
edited very cleverly to where it looked pretty seamless and
looked like Trump was telling people to go to storm
the Capitol Building. But if you look at the full
clip and context, which I think was like fifty some
odd minutes, it's not what he said. So but this
is the clever editing that you know is often done.
And of course now you've got AI, so who knows.

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You know, that's I mean, you get people to say
and do things they're totally AI, totally just not even
I mean complete fiction. And but it looks it sounds seamless,
like it's like it's really legit, and people are ohor
on it. You know, the what some people have called

(01:01:55):
the lot information voter that they read this stuff, see
it online. It must be true. It's online and all
my buddies are posting it, so it's got to be legit.
I had somebody questioned me about something going on one time,
uh with some stuff in the uh in the National Archives, uh,
well the Library of Congress, saying that somebody at the

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White House, the president all this, did that and to
remove some stuff. And I said, I'm like, no, that's
and I thought, well, let me go look there was
and I said, uh, here's a link and go look
for yourself. It's still there. Oh they must just put
it back, and I know I know people, but friends
of mine saw, they saw. I'm like, okay, some of
your friends I don't know about so people. Uh, people

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buy into things and don't do their homework. Always be
a skeptic about a lot of this stuff. Oh, I
don't care which party it is. Do your homework because
this this stuff's become a slick science of doing doing garbage.
But back to the point of the Civil War. How
close weedy civil War? I hope not close at all.
Joe Rogan is he's bringing up good point on a

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scale of one to civil war. He's like civil War
being you know, ten, and he things we maybe at
a seven. I don't know. I hope we're not. I
hope we're around two or three on that particular scale,
but we may not be. I don't know. Another reason
to pray, gang, another reason to pray. Let's go to
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you know, the screwgues are out. Oh you can't have
a Tevani scener. You're a little Christmas thing. I'm sure
finish people maybe Jesus offends a lot of people crying
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see who am I forgetting? I feel like I'm forgetting something.
I'll remember it about two in the morning. Oh, I
should have said, all right, I give a long breath,
all right, this mean what about John Bitter. Breitbart dot
Com analyzes to cease shows that mass immigration, including mass

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illegal immigration, it's pushing US housing market to the breaking point.
Mass immigration, legal and illegal has put a significant strain
on America's housing market. A new study from the Federation
for American Immigration Reform Affair details, adding to decades of
evidence that supports the same conclusion. The research import states

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that the nation's housing supply shortage would do not be
nearly a severe We're not for consistently high immigration and
of course I legal immigration levels stressing America's housing market
to the breaking point. As noted in the report of
the United States imports more than a million foreign nationals
on green cards each year, in addition to hundreds of

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thousands of foreign nationals who arrive on temporary work visashur
not to mention the ones in the past four years
or so have come here illegally, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. Countless more and foreign nationals arrival legally every year. Altogether,
these high levels drive up demand and thus home prices
and monthly rents of the fair. Report concludes that is

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one of the factors. It's not the only one. Certainly
outlined some others for you, which is greeting property tax folks.
But this is another piece of the puzzle. Immigration legal
quote immigration legal and illegal is one of the most
consequential factors affecting housing affordability because it directly generates a
significant housing demand in supply constrained areas least able to

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handle an influx of people. The report states a lot
of times those are urban areas. Noted States has by
far the largest foreign born population in the world, with
mainstream estimates of foreign residents at well above fifty million.
Depending on the essumme, I'd say that's probably too low
depending on the estimated size illegal alien population. The US
also takes in far more legal immigrants per year than

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any other country. Almost one point four million gained lawful
permanent residence status green cards in fiscal year twenty twenty
four alone. But where you need comprehensive immigration reform because
it should be easier for being able to come here
they need, you know, in nineteen ninety seven we have
the Immigration Reform Act. And within four or five years

(01:10:19):
when you need comprehensive immigration front, we just had it
five years ago. Did it not work? Is it broken? Now?
Already in five years you broke it. Yeah, there needs
to be some tweaks of the system. I agree it
ain't perfect, but it still works from one point for
a million people, right, it's it clunky as this, nearly

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six hundred thousand of whom were arrivals from abroad. However,
these illegal immigrants only amount for a small fraction of
immigrations total impact on the housing market. Even during periods
of relatively little illegal immigration like the US is currently experiencing.
Things to the Trump administration report policy, the consistent flow
of legal immigration puts pressure on the housing markets, and

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in fact, the construction collapsed at around four hundred thousand
annually in twenty ten and only recovered to pre Great
Recession totals by twenty twenty. However, there was no corresponding
drop in immigration driven demand for housing. In that same period,
eight hundred and twenty Green cards were issued more than

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one million annually, and far more came in on long
term a visas or illegally. These new arrivals alone were
enough to occupy all new housing built in that period
and contribute to the housing deficit that keeps prices at
their current record highs. For report sites research from the
Center for Immigration Studies, which finds that five percentage a
five percentage point increase in recent immigrant share of a

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metro area's population completed with a twelve percent increase a
correlated rather with a twelve percent increase in American born
household's rent. Because immigrants legally illegal are more likely to rent,
working class Americans, those living in major cities are hit
hardest by mass immigration's impact on the housing market. Quote.
This effect can be observed in metro areas that absorb

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a significant number of illegal aliens during the Bide administration,
and report states the Miami area, for example, absorbed more
illegal aliens released into the US by the Biden administration
than any other metro area, at least one for every
fifty existing residents. From twenty nineteen to twenty twenty four,
in the same metro area, the percentage of zip codes
with a median multi family rent below two thousand plummeted

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from eighty three percent to thirty three percent. Zip codes
of media single family rentals below two thousand fell from
thirty six percent to just two percent. In other words,
more expensive. Fair Port suggests that the Trump administration ought
to curb legal immigration levels to shore up cheaper homes
and rental units for the nation's working and middle class,

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who are disproportionately affected by mass immigration. Most recently, the
Wall Street Journal admitted that less immigration this year thanks
to President Donald Trump's policies, has resulted in a cooling
of sorts of rental prices a little bit. Quote runners
across much of the US have enjoyed easing prices and
months of free rent this year well some places. As

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President Trump cracks down on international immigration, the influx of
new foreign residents is also slowing. The Wall Street Journal
reported vpjd Vance has credited Trump's policies leading to less immigration.
For home prices coming down, of course, you're still high.
They came down from a high level, but they're still
pretty down high. And it's still keeping home ownership and
even in some cases decent rental out of reach of

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a whole lot of people, especially younger Americans, younger adults
who are strapped with college loans and everything else, which
of course can affect your credit and so forth in
terms of you getting qualified. And some of these so
these borgs companies have gotten pretty strict on credit, and

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they've gotten pretty strict on who they're allowing to get mortgages.
One minute, this spells an awful lot like what happened
in seven and eight, does it not? Are we headed
for another one of those I don't know. I don't know.
We will have to see. Just take a break. The

(01:14:29):
Latin Kings, they've put out pretty much hits. You'll find
out on who. Because we got more Christian talk at
Rocks around the coin.

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More talk continues next with Richie L.

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More Christian talked at Rocks.

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Next, this is Max McClain. God create all things by
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Because his word is a person. Listen to the Bible.
From John One.

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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
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Without him, nothing was made that has been made. In
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And now a man whose secret ambition is to become
a host of a Japanese game show, Ritchie. Oh, all right,

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so shoot on site. The Latin King's leadership authorizes deadly
ordered toward border patrol agents involved in Chicago's Operation Midway Blitz.
It's being bored by Christina the Laate of the Gateway Pundit.
It's growing a dangerous trend of violence and obstruction. Leadership
of the Latin Kings, one of the largest Hispanic street
gangs in the world, has authorized a shoot on site directive.

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This is toward federal agents mainly Border Patrol agents evolved
in Chicago's Operation Midway Blitz. Because there you've got Ice
and Border Patrol and some others, federal agents and so
forth working together. Border Patrol agents this weekend conducted immigrations
enforcement operations in Chicago. According News Nation corresponding Ali Bradley,
the Latin Kings are now targeting border patrol agents. On

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November eighth, Customers and Border Protection CBP received credible information
in Anything that Latin King's leadership has authorized a shoot
on site and directive targeting immigration officer agents conducting the
immigration enforcement activities there in Chicago. Officers agents are reminded
to maintain heightened situational awareness and exercise extreme caution when
conducting enforcement activities. News of the directive to shoot at

(01:17:17):
border patrol agents comes after agents were shot at on Saturday.
Of course it's in Chicago. Bar Patrol agents were shot
by a gunman driving a black jeep in Chicago, Illinois,
on Saturday. The shooter at vehicle are at large Other
anti ICE agitators through bricks and paint cans at federal agents. Quote. Today,

(01:17:38):
US Patrol was conducting immigration and enforcement operations near twenty
sixth Street and Kedzie Avenue in Chicago, Illinois, when an
unknown male driving a black jeep fired shots at agents
and fled the scene. The DHS set on Saturday quote.
An unknown number of agitators also through a paint can
and bricks at Border patrol vehicles. Chicago Police Department was

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called for assistance and it cleared the scene. DHS said
this incident is not is not isolated and reflects a
growing trend. Well, yeah, it's of course dangerous train of
violence construction. Of course, over the past couple of months
they've seen increase in these assaults. Well, they're doing their job,

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there are and most of the people that they're grabbing,
I mean it's not just you know what, eating the
kids or something. I mean, these tend to be in fact,
there tends to be other gang members, criminal guys who
have been convicted in most cases, and they have deportation
orders signed off on because they've been convicted. They fall
through the cracks or whatever and they're still out there

(01:18:46):
wanting the streets or what have you. So they're serving
stale deportation orders federal court orders get these people out
of the country. At the at the beginning of the
Trump administration on the books was approximately one point four
million of the said they've whittled into them, but there's
still espends. I've seen there's still around a million of
these things still need to be served. They're not gonna
do it all in one year. They'll probably be doing

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this for the next couple three years. That's how much
backlog there is on deportation orders signed off on by
federal judges both Republican and Democrat. And it's the law.
They're just executing the law. They're executing lawful, legal, federal
court orders in the vast majority of cases for these
people that have had their due process, in many cases

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long form due process, and the judges said, okay, they're
out of here. But because this federal jurisdiction has to
be served by federal agents within these sanctuary cities, they
won't fool with it. They go out the back door
of the court room and vanish. That's that. So the
federal engines have to hunt them down, serve these deportation

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orders he's warrants, and then get him on the next bus, plane,
trained automobile out of town, out of the country, put
them at a tension center processing, get them out as
fast as possible. And this is what they're doing. And
these are the laws in the books, passed by both
Democrats and Republicans. Okay, but in all the books, fears.

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Some of this came from that Immigration re Formact of
nineteen ninety. Well, it was passed in ninety six and
signed off on by then one President Bill Clinton, and
then they started serving it in executing it and early
nineteen ninety seven, went into law, went into a fact
in early nineteen ninety seven, and lo and behold four
or five years later were dude, comprehensive, remember grocer before

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you just had like it never happened, signed off on
by Democrat president who was all about it. I mean
talk about a short term memory loss. All you kids
are on drugs. I can here red forman right now anyway,

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So they're just executing the law as of LAMB. But
the Latin kings don't like that, well yeah, yeah, because
it's probably some of their people getting picked up, probably
some of their uh, some of their some of their
vathos being the being picked up, like thinning out their
finding out their numbers a bit.

Speaker 17 (01:21:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
The U I was coming with these us is cracking
down Indian born human smuggling ring vm CO, being reported
by Amanda bar to Lootaworldnetdaily dot com CEO. Several companies
in Maco, Indian, the United States, and United Arab Emirates
have been able to evade enforcement authorities while continuing to
profit from human smuggling and drug trafficking. A stificant enforcement

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moved by the US Department of the Treasury. The US
Department of the Treasury has exposed a sprawling human smuggling
enterprise led by an Indian born couple that is funneled
legal immigrants from multiple continents of vm CO ind the
United States. The individuals identified as vik Krant I'm not
gonna try it. It's it's a B H A R D.

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The W A J. Bardwage maybe I don't know, age
thirty nine, and his wife Indu Ranie aged thirty eight,
both originally from New Delhi. They are alleged to head
the so called bard Wage I think I'm pronounce said
human smuggling Organization HSO, which operated out of Cancun, Mexico

(01:22:22):
and Beautiful Place by the Way and maintained a network
of front companies from India, the United Arab Emirates and
Mexico about that at a Treasury department pressed him and
they said quote this this It was from again from
Presery department. It said migrants from Asia, Europe, Middle East,

(01:22:43):
and South America, including some from countries deemed at national
security where risks would fly into Cankun be housed in
hotels or hotels controlled by the newhere there's smic hotails
under two then traveled north along Mexico's coasts by land
via the Tapuchela cancun Icyli Corridor, ultimately arriving at the
US medical border. Bribery of airport in security personnel in

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cooperation with the notorious Cinealoa cartel are also alleged. This
blueprint was used to smuggle thousands of illegal immigrants into
the US, and parallel, the network is alleged to have
a laundered money through real estate and hospitality businesses. Indian
companies such as Vienna Chevanni Estates Private Limited are cited

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as part of the scheme. About that under the sanctions,
all US property or interests tied to the organization or
individuals are frozen and US persons are barred from transacting
with them. Significance is twofold for American interests. It underscores
international dimension of undocumented migration and human smuggling networks, and

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it raises questions about Indian nationals and companies factor into
pipelines that effectively bypassed border controls while undercutting legal migration channels. Well,
and then these people get jobs and American jobs and
high tech companies or whatever in this company that company,
and there you go. For you use policy and working
protection advocates, this case may trigger for the scrutiny of
India linked operations that exploit global mobility and migration systems

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for profit, especially when American labor and border security intersect.
While no arrest information was detailed in the Treasury release,
the sanctions themselves are being used as a lever to
choke off funds and disrupt logistics before full criminal prosecutions follow.
So they're kind of setting these people up. If you're

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going to cut off the flow of the funds and
then move in and grab them. It's an old g
Man strategery that still works. I guess then you got
this by Governor Gavin Nuisance busted by FEDS for issuing
stunning number of licenses to foreign born illegals truck drivers mean,

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what about Joe Kovac ruled in Daily An investigation by
the US Department of Transportation reveals California has issued seventeen
thousand commercial licenses to dangerous form more truckers, truck drivers
who are not here legally all right, Quite after weeks
of claiming they did nothing wrong, Gavin Nuisance in California
have been caught red handed. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said Wednesday,

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now that we've exposed there lie, seventeen thousand illegally issued
trucking licenses are being revoked. This is just a tip
of the iceberg. My team will continue to force California
to prove they have removed every illegal immigrant from behind
the wheel of semi trucks and school buses unquote. The
announcement comes in the wake of an ongoing Trump administration
probe into a fatal highway crashes involving illegal alien truckers

(01:25:48):
and how they received their licenses. In some cases, they
don't even have them. Those who currently possessed in legal
commercial driver's license, I mean some of their effake licenses
from the Golden State have been notified their CDO will
expire in sixty days. Additionally, to the USDA Department of
Transportation will examine California's audit of its CDL system to

(01:26:09):
verify that every illegally issued license has been revoked in
that the failures that allow these licenses to be issued
are corrected. Duffy began has cracked down after an Indian
National truck driver made an illegal U turn in Saint
Lucie County on Florida's Turnpike, causing three people to be
killed and a subsequent wreck multiple injuries as well. On

(01:26:31):
that one, the driver twenty and some people show in
the hospital. The driver, twenty eight year old Hard Gender Seeing,
was arrested in August. He is in the legal alien
and was issued a trucking permit by California. About them
apples dot figures released in September revealed more than twenty
five percent of a non domocil CDLs reviewed and its
audit were improperly issued by California. Yeah, that's ah. You

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want to know why I call him governor nuisance? There
you have it. Oh, he has aspirations to run for president.
I don't think it's happening. I mean, I don't think
he'll be elected. He might run, but you know, I
don't think he's gonna be elected. I don't even think
I'll win the primary. He may come in second or third.
You know, he's got good hair, he's tall, slender, tan,
you know, kind of the GQ looking guy, kind of

(01:27:24):
the middle aged model guy like you see in the
catalogs when you're selling the clothes for the middle aged businessman.
He has that look that really I think is his
career path. He would probably make great money in that.
He has sort of that GQ you know, blow dry
hair to look, has the tan, good teeth, all that

(01:27:45):
kind of slender kind of a clothes rack, you know,
a clothed mule. He'll be great in catalogs, men's catalogs
or just regular catalogs, online catalogs for for you know,
men's wear for the distinguished gentleman as they call it.
And he, you know, older guy's trying to look young, right,

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so he could work well in those catalogs. He really could.
He could be a runway model. Just get out of
politics and go do that. How hard is that? How
hard is it? Kind of you kind of got to
watch you die. You can't be you know, picking out
a certain restaurants. You got to keep that school girl figure.
But you know, if he can manage that, I think
he has a career in that direction. Forget the politics thing.

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He'd probably make more money. Well I don't know about that,
but he would make good money. He would make good money.
It'd be less of a problem for the rest of
the nation. I don't think he'll take my advice, though
I really know probably they'd be a great career path
for him. Think I'll manage it. For fifteen percent, we

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Some city officials had a problem with a Nativity scene
in the Christmas farmers market. A Christmas farmers market. Okay,
for Christmas. They're setting it up now. I know it's
pushing it. We haven't even gotten to Thanksgiving yet, but yeah,

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it comes earlier every year. I mean these Christmas in
the region here, just doing some travels in October and
throughout the region. Northern North Carol Line of Southern Virginia
Southwestern Virginia in October. I saw Christmas markets. Okay, I
saw advertisements for We're gonna have a Christmas market this
this weekend October whatever, pushing it. Look, I'm a Christmas

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a huge, Christmas freak huge. The lovely missus l is
a Christmas fanatic. H She starts pulling out stuff and
looking at it and buying Christmas stuff in August and September.
You know, we need new lights for the tree. So
she gets in August, we need this, and we need that,
and actually the dollar tree, you know, and some of

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the dollar trees in August September, they got the Christmas
stuff out. I mean, you know they do anyway. City
officials back down, but they did back down initially after
rejecting the Nativity display at a Christmas farmer's market. Which way,
what do they doing again with what's what's the problem?
It's been what a by Carlo Scotch Seatblaze dot Com.

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See he has no problem allowing displace for the Grinch,
saying in buddy the Elf, Yeah that's all good. Baby Jesus.
People kind of get a little nervous around Baby Jesus
because it's Baby Jesus. You know, Yeah, those wise guys
and the shepherds and Mary and Joseph and just some
people just get wigged out by that. You know, a

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woman who's organized a local farmers market for years in
the city of I think I'm gonna pronounce this right, Pataskella, Ohio?
Am I getting that right? Probably? I'll get I'll get
the email for that was prohibited from putting on a
live and activity display for a Christmas themed market until
officials finally back down. Now, this is in a red state,

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in a small town. That's why I'm saying this. You know,
a lot of this anti Jesus stuff isn't just all
happening in the in the big blue station and the
big blue shirters. More and more of these stories gang
are coming out of red states, or least purplish red
states and small towns. It was in Cleveland. This wasn't Cincinnati.

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There's my late grandfather's called Cincinnata. It wasn't Cincinnata. Susan
Conley requested in September to be allowed to set up
the Nativity scene on public grounds this year, which is
where they're hosting the whole thing, where they didn't have
a problem with the Christmas Fair, have bizarre thing or
whatever happening there, Christmas thing market, they'd have a problem

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with that. But and you just can't set up anything
with the little Baby Jesus. Little nervous spelled to be
allowed to put up the in Nativity scene on public
grounds this year, after previously having it located on private property.
The city deny the requests, despite allowing other displays that
include the Grinch, Santa Claus, Buddy the Elf. The town

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can man religious displays on public property just because they're
religious first. Liberty Institute, which represented Conley, said in a
press release that city officials backtracked after the organization sent
a latter to them on her behalf. They went, oh,
you know, when you get one of those letters from
Liberty Institute, it's got a pretty darn good track record.
It went in the majority of their lawsuits. And you're

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a tiny town.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
This is nothing new for Susan. She has worked with
the city for nearly a decade to set up Alive
of Nativity as part of the of the city's annual
mainStreet Christmas event. Read the statement from the organization, Conley
said she had organized light of duty to displayed on
private grounds in the city for about sixteen years. Anyway,
let me let you hear this clip on this because
the local or the regional news there and that part

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of Ohio jumped on this and it looks like they've
actually finally come to an agreement on this thing. But
let me let you hear this. But why was it
an issue to begin with? I mean, you know that's
come on, But let me let you hear this.

Speaker 11 (01:34:52):
Club the reason for this season for Christians.

Speaker 9 (01:34:56):
For many in the community, celebrating the season means coming
together to celebrate Jesus.

Speaker 11 (01:35:02):
Susan Conley's hoping to host a Christmas market with a
live nativity like this one at Veterans Green Park in Patascola.

Speaker 9 (01:35:10):
Is actually the very first holiday farmers market that we
are wanting to host, and we wanted to bring together
the community.

Speaker 11 (01:35:17):
Conley submitted this application in September, requesting a permit from
this city for the event. Her law firms shared it
with me. It came back to her with this note
from the city administrator. All items fine except live nativity,
cannot be on any property owned or leased by the city.

Speaker 9 (01:35:34):
It was very frustrating, you know, I couldn't understand really
why the city would deny my request, so.

Speaker 11 (01:35:42):
She's having attorneys step in. First Liberty Institute and the
Jones Day Firm sent this demand letter to Patascala leaders.

Speaker 8 (01:35:50):
It is unlawful, it's unconstitutional and really truly shameful to
treat religious expression as second class expression.

Speaker 11 (01:35:59):
Do you feel that this denying this request infringes on
Susan's religious freedom.

Speaker 8 (01:36:05):
No question, because she wants to express her beliefs on
public property just like anyone else.

Speaker 11 (01:36:12):
I sent this email to city leaders asking why did
the city deny Susan the ability to set up a
live Nativity scene and what policies would her live Nativity
scene at Veterans Green violate. The mayor called me and
said I would receive information from the tascal As law
director this Friday.

Speaker 8 (01:36:28):
We're waiting to hear from the city by this Friday, Halloween,
and if not, we intend to try to file lawsuits.

Speaker 11 (01:36:36):
This situation also has the attention of Ohio gubernatorial candidate
Vivek Ramaswami. He posted on x writing denying permits for
religious displays on public property because of their content is
a First Amendment violation and has a chilling effect on
all religious faiths.

Speaker 9 (01:36:53):
It's sad, really that the community can't come together and
celebrate something that's been so fundamental to the traditions of
this wonderful season.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
And again this boils down to constitutional illigorance. Mayor of
Mike Compton admitted that he and other officials initially had
concerns and by the way, that was WNSTV. Mayor Mike
Compton admitted that he and other officials initially had concerns
about religious expression on public grounds. This was brand new
we and we just said, hey, you know what, staying

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with our normal Paulisher, not mixing religion on city property.
Your permit is approved, but you cannot do the Nativity.
You will have to find another location. This is all
this fear about, well separation of church and stripe shop.
Well hold on separation church and state doesn't mean that
you bar someone on public property from expressing a religious

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point of view or a religious expression that violates the
First Amendment. In other words, it's a misinterpretation of that doctrine,
if you will, or of that part of the First
Amendment regarding establishment clause. Okay, Congress shall make no law
regarding the established or religion. Blah blah blah. That doesn't

(01:38:11):
nullify religious freedom. It's not a caveat to it. It's
not what you kind of do have religious freedom, but
you don't because that's the way you'd have to interpret
that if you felt that that were the true interpretation
of that. What that means is what it says, the
government will not establish a particular church or particular denomination
or particular religion and say you better tie to this thing,

(01:38:34):
intend of this thing, believe in this thing, or we're
putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger. Now,
that's kind of what happened you might recall in your
history in some parts of Europe, hence why people like
the Pilgrims and others fled to this country, and even
in this country after they fled here, some of these
folks set up that kind of mentality and started persecuting
other quote unquote Christian denominations that weren't jibing with their denominations.

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You had a lot of that happening in New England
in the later sixteenth und Darly seventeen hundred. So the
founding followers didn't want to go down that road. That
road wasn't good road. So that's why that's in there
to keep that out of there. But it doesn't mean
that that doesn't nullify religious freedom or any kind of
freedom of speech on government grounds. In fact, if anything,
the First Amendment up holds that, especially on government property.

(01:39:18):
In other words, your freedom of religion doesn't end when
you cross the thresholder your front door or your back
door in case may be. And the courts have consistently,
for the most part, maintained this. Founding followers meant this,
and that's what they believed. So I mean, my goodness,
when they dedicated the capital, the new Capitol building in

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the early eighteen hundreds, they had prayer. A lot of
big dignitaries are Thomas Jefferson and everything else about the
US capital. So this is historical and constitutional ignorance on
the part of Marin company. And this is what I've
been saying for a long time. Both biblical and constitutional

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are at the basis of so much stuff going on
in this country. But if they'd done their homework, then
they would have gotten threats from FLI. After Connie an
FLI threatened a lawsuits, city officials then reconsidered their decision
and now it's we are grateful that the city administration

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recognized that the constitution protectionists colony is right to put
up a Nativity at the farmers market, said First Liberty
Institute Senior Council Nate Colum. They probably somebody of the
city in the mayor and so forth, probably talked to
somebody who knew a lot more about this in their
city attorney. Probably knew a little bit more about the Constitution.
He said, Yeah, I know you can't do that Taskala

(01:40:42):
cannot and ban religious displays on public property just because
they're religious. He added, how good. Controllable. Candidate vivik Ramaswami
released a statement on his social media siding with Colley,
and he said the city recently denied a petition from
local residents set up a live Nativity scene at hollow
A themed farmers market. I mean, I had no problem
with the Christmas Market. I mean, hello, it's got Christ

(01:41:04):
in Mass. It's about Christ's Mass, It's about the birth
of Jesus. Hell lo, I mean, come on, he said,
this is blatantly unconstitutionally wrote denying primits for religious displays
on public property because of their content as a person
Amendment of violation and has a chilling effect on religious
faith in recent years, and Supreme Court agrees with that.
By the way, Christianity has been fairly targeted by secular
political leaders, and in the future it could it could

(01:41:26):
easily be other faiths too, But it's always wrong, unconsciutional
and un American. He had it, uh stand ready to
help local residents in my home state who stand up
for the constitutional rights. Romn Oswami concluded. So anyway, it
turned out all good. But it's a shame that went
there to begin with. I mean again, it boils down
to stupidity about the Constitution, just sheer stupidity. Let me

(01:41:51):
run through some more of these. I got a bunch
of these here. Authoritize this is in New York City.
Are on hunt for the rainbow flag vandal. It's being
reported by Hannahnuts and bridbart dot com. Authorities on the
hunt for a vandal using an LGBT rainbow flag targeting
churches or church buildings in New York City and accusing

(01:42:11):
them of being caught the suspect too. Well, sometimes that
is true, but not all churches. The suspect who paired
the rainbow and that is give you right to go
vandalize them. The suspect, who paired the rainbow flag with
a rainbow face covering, is believed to have defaced three
different church buildings in the Queen's area on October fifth
with what has been described as anti Christian statements. Video

(01:42:34):
footage actually shows a suspect first targeting Refuge Church of Christ,
an Apostolic church, spray painting anti gay cult in the
wee hours of the morning. The suspect then ventured to
nearby church City of Oasis, Church of Deliverance Pentecostal Church
of course with a name like that because you know

(01:42:54):
the bigger the name of the more you know Spiritfield
jar right, expressing since it seems to be the case,
expressing similar sentiments by writing anti gay cult on the
front door that according to New York Daily News, suspect
also vandalized the church with LGBTQ symbols. Building that is.
Suspect also wore sunglasses. Then targeted the Catholic church, Saint
Mary's Star of the Sea Church with the words welcome

(01:43:17):
cult members. According to the outlet, the suspect also blockinged
out the face of a statue of the Virgin Mary
and wrote cult on the statues base, whiles Prey paying
another statue as well. Pastor of Saint Mary's Star of
the Sea discovered the vandalism the next morning. According to
the Tablet, A receptious for Saint Mary's Star of the
Sea and Saint Gertrud's, which is nearby and share the

(01:43:38):
same rectory, told The Daily News in early October that
both the church buildings had been vandalized, with someone placing
plastic bags over the heads of the statues at both churches.
New York Post is reporting that the NYPD Hate Crime
Task Force is investigating these events. So there's that. I mean,

(01:43:59):
you know, that's kind of low key anti Christian bigotry.
I mean, it's kind of low key stuff. At least
a person wasn't killing Christians. But oh yeah, we've had
that happen too in this country in recent months. Not
as bad as what's going on in Nigeria, that's for sure,
but still this is showing you that this stuff is
growing and getting worse. And I've been saying that it's

(01:44:23):
Wisconsin in a lot of city governments, and Wisconsin by
a lot of politicians, and with politicians, here's a World
of Daily Bob Andrew, I'm gonna let you hear the
mayor of Idaho city spew vile ran condemning Christians. One
more elected official has been caught in a self promoting
video unleashing, perhaps spewing is a better word, a vile,
uncontrolled rant condemning Christians. This would be Mayor Don Gookin

(01:44:45):
of Courtelaine, Idaho. He called Christians bindless, cult member, morons,
amongst other names. Let me let you hear this clip.
This is a mayor American city in a red state game. Cordlina.
I know, small town, quite little town, been there, been

(01:45:06):
through it. God a family member that doesn't live too
far from there, and it's, you know, just nice, little quaint,
you know town. But this is how the mayor feels
about Christians and why these people's quite out of hotown
elected this guy. I don't know. I suspect maybe next
to go around, they might not. I would open up,

(01:45:26):
but anyway, you never you never know. Look what New
York City did, I.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
Don't know, don't give a and they all I'm a
Bible believe in Christian I believe in Jesus and it
guides my life as the Christian Conservative, so Christian family values,
Christian conservative, mindless cult member group thinking morons.

Speaker 12 (01:45:49):
Are you a point?

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
Europe Christians, they tend to be the rudest, most disrespectful
jerks I have ever seen. I seriously think if Jesus
here today, he would have a message for everyone who's
a Christian and he would just say, get those racists
and white supremacists.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
Gay.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
I felt really gay last night. Come over for a
gay time, really gay. Christian nationalism now, but let's cut
right to the chase. It's white nationalism, real hardcore Christians
and Christians to self and to go to hell.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Well, you know Jesus said, I mean, he sort of
simply proved the accuracy the Bible, in which an a
Testament explains where Jesus said, if the world hates you,
keep in mind that had hated me first. If you
belong to the world, it would love you as its own.
As it is. You do not belong to the world,
but I have chosen you out of the world. That
is why the world hates you. But he's the new

(01:46:49):
mayor of Quarterlain in Idaho. And of course, I guess
even if you're a Christian of mixed race like me,
you're still a white supremacist. Or even if you're black American,
well you're still a wat supremacist Native American. Yeah, it's
still watched premiss. So we brought in white supremacist supremacist

(01:47:11):
menybody that's a Christian and it's you know, and loves
their country and kind of likes constitution. Well you're one
of those white nationals. You know, I'm a mixed Tresch.
Well you still are, Okay. See, these folks have to
label that, they must put labels on things. They must
label you. They've got to You've got to label somebody.
Well you see, this is how it's often done in

(01:47:33):
totalitary regimes as well. You know you labeled. Well, remember
they put those yellow stars on the Jews in Germany
at one point. I remember that. Yeah, so you got
to label. Somebody got to have a label. So the
label that they throw around for Christians or Christians they

(01:47:56):
don't like or what have you, white nationalists Christian Okay,
even though Jesus is the Middle Eastern guy, you know,
all the all the you know, he's Semitic, all the
apostles were you know, Jews or you know, you got
Luke who's af jew have gentile, but I mean, you know,
they were all pretty much Jewish, the first Apostles, you know,

(01:48:19):
followers of Jesus Jewish, you know. Yeah, Okay, it's not
exactly Lily quite. Yeah, so there's that. But anyway, don't
confuse these people with the facts.

Speaker 13 (01:48:34):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
Christian soccer players slammed being transphobic for defending women's sports,
being reported by the Blaze staff. After NWSL player Elizabeth
Eddie cited that biological facts to argue that only women
should com beaten women's soccer, her teammates announced her When
Christian soccer player lives with Eddie wrote that only women

(01:48:55):
should play in the National Women's Soccer League, her teammates
called her transphobic and racist and you know every other
word in the book. Because see, if somebody calls you
transpho book a racist, they think that's that's kind of like.

Speaker 12 (01:49:08):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
It's gonna make you like wilt up and just shrivel up.
And you know, call of throwing water on the wicked
Witch and the Wizard of Oz, I'm outing beautiful wiganness.
You all that, Uh that if they do that, you know,
just somehow paralyze you and make you melt, you'll steam
up and you'll die in the floor of slow agony
or something that they'll call you a racist or transphoberic

(01:49:28):
or whatever. Look, I've been called every name of the book.
Here's my reaction. What hope anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
The professional soccer player for Angel City FC had her
op ed published in The New York Post, where she wrote,
I'm concerned that with thatot clarity about who the league
is four, it will lose its identity and it's momentum
unquote that he proposed specific testing method it's to verify
a player's eligibility, asking the NWSL to adopt a clear standard.
Here's the example that perhaps all players should be born

(01:50:09):
with ovaries as a requirement. You know, or at least
you know natural female gen to tell you how about that. See,
here's the thing. Even if you are a guy, and
even if you know you have said equipment removed or modified,
you don't have ovaries. You don't have a womb, you
don't have a uterus, you don't have eggs. You can't

(01:50:31):
have a child that way in the way a woman can.
You can't bear a child, So you're not a woman.
I don't care how how much you mutilate your body.
I don't care what make hip you put on, the
company wigs, you wearing, dresses you put on. The fact
the matter is, you will never become a true, fully
bioun biological functioning woman because a woman has all those parts.

(01:50:56):
And if you're not born with those parts. And yes,
I know there are rare bird deffects some people are
born with both. I get that. But unless you're one
of those, you are not and never will be a woman.
Vice versa. If you are a female and you do
not have the male genitalia, okay, you can never get

(01:51:16):
another woman pregnant and ay're going to happen. You will
not produce the sperm to make that happen, not on
your own anyway. So you are biologically who you are
when you're born, okay, and you can't fully at least
at this point in time in terms of what science

(01:51:37):
can do. Who knows down the road. But right now,
you cannot create, You cannot turn yourself. You have the
skeletal system and muscular system of a man. If you're
born a man a woman, same thing. This is I mean,
this is science. You know, it's funny, these same people
that probably are mad at her were all about I
bet you all these people were wearing all these gals
were wearing the masks and taking the jab when came out.

(01:52:00):
Because we're following the science. Okay, well she's asked you
to follow science too, but now you're going, well forget
the science. Okay, you're just you're just transphobic and you're
big and you're raighteous and you're the wicked witch of
the West, and we're gonna throw water on you and
watch you mount. You know, the production testas makes a
difference not only in puberty but also in utero, so

(01:52:23):
they're bone density and muscle mass, they're aerobic and anaerobic. Passy,
even if they go on across sex hormones is insurmountable.
A woman just cannot overcome that. Stucky said, it's so
stupid we even have to say this. Blaze TV hosts
Aliabatha Stucky commented on our relatables. Anyway, there's that, but
she's standing up and Eddie's standing up and being being hammered.

(01:52:45):
But that's all right. She's she's speaking the truth. It's funny.
There's a singer songwriter, a performer who's LGBTQ person, a
lesbian who's also saying the same thing. A black woman,
by the way, also saying the same thing. Look, you know,
guys can't be in women's rooms, locker rooms and dressing
rooms and bathrooms and you know, waving your stuff around. Uh,

(01:53:09):
people are are are are? They've had enough? I think
that's kind of where we're at all. I mean, and
again I don't know whether this. You know, there's people
of all stripes of persuasions, is what I'm saying, races, sexes,
Some even in the LGBTQ communiya come out and saying, yeah,
you know, you're not a dude. I mean, you're not
a woman. You're a dude. Come on this, you know

(01:53:32):
we're not buying it. News and uh, Gavin Newsom finally
broke his silence on the Berkeley protests TPUSA California clarussa
made at UC Berkeley on Monday night, being reported by
Andrew Mark Miller Fox News. UH DJs investigating the violent
you see Berkeley protests Antifa guys, it's some other folks.

(01:53:55):
Two days after agitators violently disrupted a t PA us
said that's you know, Charlie Kirk's organization event in Berkeley, California,
the state's governor, Gavin Newsom, finally broke his silence. Finally
it spoke out all the matter through a spokesperson. Of course,
you know, uh quote, violence is not a legitimate exercise
the First Amendment rights, the spokesperson, renews some office told

(01:54:17):
Fox News Digital on Wednesday afternoon. While people have the
right to protests, it must be done peacefully. You know,
that's kind of what the it's kind of what First
Amendments is. You got the right to gather protests, but
it's got to be peaceful, lawful assemblies, peaceful assembly A
Newsom's office pointed out that the majority of the demonstrators
peacefully protested. You know, you know how that goes. They

(01:54:39):
peacefully protested on only throwing things at cops and stuff,
with six arrests out of a total more than nine hundred,
and that the agitators were controlled by state and local
law enforcement. Well, eventually, I was kind of chuckling because
I saw this one big cop. He was a big dude.
He grabbed somebody. Some Antifa guys that look like bicycle
it was using it like a big shield. And like

(01:55:00):
a I don't know, like almost like he was holding
it sideways and just pushing the protesters back with it.
He's a big dude, and he was pushing the protesters back,
and they were kind of trying to jump him and
throw things, and he was just like pushing He was
using like a big shield and just pushing him down
and pushing him back. And I was watching some news.
I'm sorry, I had to kind of chuckle. I was like,
you know, and these little these little guys, well they

(01:55:24):
looked a little next to him, they might have been
only six feet tall, but this guy was big. He
looked like he was six and a half, maybe pushing
towards seven feet tall, you know, basketball. But they're gonna
be one of the big wrestler guys, you know, like
the Undertaker or somebody, big stout dude. And he, I mean,
he was. It was a big bicycle. And at first
of all, I was a motorcycle, because a big fat targin,
Holy cow, this guy's picking up a motorcycle, but he was.

(01:55:47):
It was a bicycle. He was pushing the protesters back
and kind of using the kind of why I'm a
little bit and get him into submission, pushing them back
as they were hitting his up, trying to jump on
his other fellow officers and stuff. And they looked like,
you know, midgets compared to this guy, little short people,
I should say, I don't say, but little short people
next to this ky. This guy was big. But I
believe this and all and I were kind of chucking,
like leaky, this big Paul Bunyan guy just literally mopping

(01:56:11):
the sidewalk with this bicycle he was holding sideways and
kind of using like a shield and a scoop to
just scoop these guys up and toss them to the
side like they were nothing. So I was laughing like, yeah,
you guys picked on the wrong on the wrong flat
foot that day. So I don't know. And I saw this.

(01:56:33):
We saw this one banner too. It was a red banner.
They said they were against fascism and all that, yet
it had the the symbol of the hammer and the sickle. Okay,
not that they were against it, they were for that.
You see. I'm thinking there, thinking, wait a minute, you
guys have no clue what fascism is. You guys have

(01:56:53):
no clue what fascism is. That's sort of like somebody
that's saying, you know, we're against women being exploited and
all this pornography. Yet you've got pornographic images, full on
port of pornographic images on your protest sign we're against pornography,

(01:57:15):
but then you got the pornographic images there. Okay, that's
kind of what it's like and maybe not be the
best best example there. You have no clue what fascism is.
They really don't, uh, do you see? Berkeley Police Department
confirmed that two other men were arrested during the night's activities.
I want you to hear clip from Jonathan Turley. He
was talking to one of the talking head guys there

(01:57:37):
on Fox News, but at least at least knew some
did say something to you know, a proxy, you know,
the guts come on and just say it outright himself,
but got one of his, uh, one of his flunkeys
to do it for him. I guess it's better than nothing.
Guess that's about the best we can we can hope
from uh from Gavin there. But let me let you
hear this clip, and this is constiutional expert and professor

(01:58:04):
law professor constiutional guy Jonathan Turley talked about this on
and Antif in their stagings on Fox News.

Speaker 16 (01:58:13):
Protests turning violent outside of Turning Point USA event and
UC Berkeley as agitators through rocks and set off flares
that try to block the campus. The chaos prompted an
investigation by the Department of Justice.

Speaker 18 (01:58:25):
The Joint Terrorism Task Force is going to be looking
into this together with the DOJ, my Civil Rights Division,
and the FBI and understand what happened here. How did
it come to be the case that when Berkeley has
noticed that this type of violence occurs on the campus,
when conservative speakers come to speaking by Rob Schneider had
been scheduled to speak, it was a sold out crowd.
So we have some serious questions and concerns about this,

(01:58:47):
and there'll be a full federal investigation.

Speaker 16 (01:58:49):
So Fox News contributor in George Washington University law professor
Jonathan Turley joins us now, So, professor, obviously there's a
problem there. This has been pervasive on a lot of
college campuses. But I guess if you had the security
they're on the campus and the police officers trying to
block the protest or what offense did the university commit here?

Speaker 19 (01:59:12):
Well, this is a serious and a longstanding problem. I
write about this in my book The Indispensable Right, because
there's been a lack of security on many campuses to
protect conservative libertarian speakers. Often universities will simply say security
is too demanding and just cancel those speakers. And so,
you know, what I say in the book is that

(01:59:33):
this is something that the federal government should look into.
There were complaints here that hundreds of people were not
able to get into the event, that the police kept
the corridor very narrow, which led to people being in
close proximity with these violent individuals.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
And you know, I think I joined many.

Speaker 19 (01:59:51):
I hope, in saying that one of the key responsibilities
of the government should be to protect these circles of
free speech activity, to tell people like Antifa, you're not
going to silence others.

Speaker 16 (02:00:04):
It's such a good point, Professor, and I think it's
the perfect segue because Antifa is now being classified as
a terrorist organization. You see, Berkeley released this statement. They
said that the university is conducting a full investigation and
intends to fully cooperate with and assist any federal investigation
and the FBI led Joint Terrorism Task force to identify

(02:00:26):
the outside agitators responsible for attempting to disrupt last night
TPUSA event. You see, Berkeley will take all appropriate steps
to safeguard the rights of every member of our community
to speak and as symbol freely. And I think that
last part is key. They're saying that the people that
were a part of this weren't even part of the universe.

Speaker 3 (02:00:48):
They were outsiders there.

Speaker 19 (02:00:50):
Now, this is a signature event for Antifa. It has
all of those elements that many of us have written about.
Antifa is the most violent anti free speech movement in
the history of the United States, and those of us
on university campuses have been aware and hounded by Antifa
for years.

Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
This is how they operate.

Speaker 19 (02:01:10):
And they get in there and they try to agitate
the crowd.

Speaker 3 (02:01:15):
Yeah, it's just standard original seizure and they act like
fascists even though they claim to be against fascist. Go
figure it out. I don't know it's it's I don't
know what kind of drugs these people are on, but
in their world makes sense. I'm going, Okay, you guys
have no clue what fascism is. Finally we end up
with this being reported by John mac gleontheblaze dot com.

(02:01:35):
They think Christian AI will hasten christ second Coming, and
now they're building it. Where's a line between information and idolatry?
He writes, artificial intelligence in Christianity, we're never meant to
share a few let me let me toss this in
your other I'm not scared necessarily of AI. AI to
me is a tool. It's a computer, high tech kind
of a tool, just like other programs and tools and

(02:01:57):
wind you know, Windows and Mac and blah blah blah blah.
All right. I know there's a lot of people spooked
up by AI right now, and I get why they've
seen the you know, the Terminator movies and all that.
But as someone who worked in the high tech field
for a little while when I lived in Austin, Texas,
worked for Big Blue IBM, work for some other companies,
I'll leave nameless and helping to put together computers and

(02:02:22):
populate mother boards and test motherboards and watch little things
pop off the motherboards and populate boards with super duper
high tech high speed component placement machines and fixed problems
and rub shoulders with the nerds, with the with the
glasses and the and the pocket calculators and all that,
and enjoyed every minute of it. By the way, computers

(02:02:46):
real simple garbage in, garbage out computer programs. I don't care, say,
I don't care what it is. Garbage and garbage out. Okay,
that's how that works. It's a tool. It's like a knife.
You can cut up a fancy gourmet dinner. You can
kill somebody with it, like my Cole Myers in the
Halloween movies. It's a toolkay. It can be good. It
be used for good or evil. It's like the Internet
in itself is a tool be good, used for good

(02:03:08):
or evil. Podcasts like this could be used for good
or evil. Technology can be used for good or evil,
depends on what you do with it, how you handle it.
So that's the way I personally approach AI. Now, having
read my Bible backwards and frontwards, and especially this stuff
about eschatology and the end times, I could see where

(02:03:29):
perhaps the anti Christ and false profit may and probably
will utilize this stuff, along with other technologies and things
we may not even be aware of yet haven't been
invented or whatever. Or these folks may come up with
some stuff, who knows, But you know, the anti Christ
will incorporate I'm sure plenty of this kind of stuff
into his overall deception, okay, And there will be it

(02:03:52):
looks like the idols of him that people will worship,
and so on and so forth. So artificial intelligence could definitely,
I could see play a part and things of that nature, okay.
But again it's what you do with it, how you
utilize it. He goes on to say, one was built
on the mystery of divine creation, the other on the
arrogance of recreation. One asks for faith, the other for feedback.

(02:04:14):
Christ said, I am the way the truth in the life.
Silicon Valley says, we're still in Beta two, about as
compatible as a Garden of Eden in a Google campus.
Without swift changes, the trajectory is clear. AI becomes man's
latest Tower of Babel, the cathedral without God, where worshippers
speaking code and measured divinity and data points. It promises
omniscience without morality, communion without confession, salvation without sin. If

(02:04:35):
AI seeks to simulate humanity rather than serve it. When
imitation becomes indistinguishable from incarnation, the heresy is complete. We're
reluctant to realize until it's too late that we built
a golden calf with customer support. There is something absurd
about watching tech CEO's quote scripture as they roll out
a new ral networks. Patrick Gelsinger's christian AI through his

(02:05:02):
company Glue that spelled Glo. You may have heard about
it is a fine example and attempted to digitize devotion
automate the altered outsourced to soul. He speaks of hastening
the coming of Christ's return, as if the second coming
might now depend on cloud storage and quarterly funding rounds.
The Reformation had Luther and the printing press Silicon Valley
has sermon slides in subscription tiars. To say AI and

(02:05:27):
Christianity neatly aligned is to confuse omniscience with omnipotence, a
mix up Guessinger seems to find profitable. The AI Bible
is here, but something important is missing. Christianity begins with
the admission of imperfection, that man is fallen and must
be redeemed. The nascent Church of AI begins with the
belief that perfection is achievable. Just one data set of

(02:05:49):
funding round away. One kneels before mystery, the other dissects
it to the Christian knowledge without humility is literally the
oldest sin of the book. To the es caton and
mandetizing technologists, it is the business model what sermon can
stop the theological train wreck. AI is coming for everything art, law, love,

(02:06:13):
and inevitably faith. It will write psalms, confess sins, and
deliver humblies with the warmth of a toaster. It will
perform digital miracles that leave priests wondering if they should
have learned Python already, chatbot, sue the lonely, and council
the broken. Tomorrow they'll offer absolution completely with it forgive
me button and instant feedback on spiritual progress. The modern
professional booth will be equipped with terms of service. The

(02:06:36):
danger I suggest isn't that AI will destroy religion, but
in our convention, in our convenience and Greek culture out
market it, in the words, have become a new religion
hope with a progress barred, delivered quietly, efficiently, and with
better ux. People won't pray but prompt. They won't seek
God's voice. They'll find a tune a model. They'll find
tune a model until it tells them exactly what they wish.

(02:06:58):
He'd say, that's the tragedy of this new Gospel. It
offers comfort without convictions, certainty without sacrifice. It gives you
grace without God. Still mere mockery of Gelsinger's Christian AI
misses this deeper truth. The age of AI is that
waiting for our theological approval, a machine doesn't care whether
you call it sacred or satanic. Regardless, it can learn

(02:07:19):
your hymns, mirror your morality, and sell you an app
that scores your sanctity. The church can ignore it, or
it can prepare for the reckoning, because, whether you like
it or not, the algorithm is coming for Sunday Service.
So what what a respectable Christian AI look like? Not
glues shipper chatbot that mistakes engagement metrics for evangelism, not

(02:07:40):
another faith tech product design to optimize ministry engagement or
gammify discipleship. A respectable CHRISTIANY I'd reflect restraint, not reach
for reverence. It would refuse to pretend it knows God's will,
and it would never change charge a fee to interpret it.
It would encourage silence over speak each and contemplation over computation.

(02:08:03):
Here's another theological era that these people are making with
this glue. Organization. If you know, if there if the
author of the author of this article is interpreting their
belief system, right, and I'll just taking him as his
word for now. But on that without having spoken with
these people, myself or Doug had a chance to dig
a little deeper, and I will in the future. But
there there are churches out there that really feel that

(02:08:24):
when this happens, when they do this, and when they
do that, it will usher Christ, It will force Jesus
to It will force a father to say to Jesus, okay, son,
you know, head down there. That's that's trying to manipulate God.
God cannot be manipulated. God cannot be poke. Even Jesus
himself said, no man will know the day or the
hour of my return. So somebody trying to provoke Jesus

(02:08:48):
to hurry up and jump off that chair beside God
and come on down, that's manipulation. That's you kind of
setting up a date and forcing Jesus to comply with this.
That's gonna happen. God, the Father is not going to
work like that. Okay. No man knows the day or
the hour. So if no man knows a day or
the hour, you can't manipulate the day or the hour

(02:09:09):
into happening either. I mean that sort of the conversion
that would be true true as well. Right, So this
idea that somehow God the Father can kind of be
nuts to send the sun down here by whatever means,

(02:09:32):
is pure arrogance and a lack of understanding of scripture
on that particular topic. Just not reading your Bible carefully.
So I don't care what kind of ai thing they create.
They're not going to force Jesus to get up out
of the chair that's seated next to the Father in Heaven,

(02:09:52):
you know, whenever he's sitting in and you know, just say, well,
you know, Dad, guess I better go. Yeah, Son, looks
like the AA people are kind of forced us into
a corner here. Yeah. That's not how it's going to work. Okay,
It's just not how it's going to happen. It is
not the way God the Father rolls from what I'm
reading in my Bible. Okay, far be it from me
to tell the Lord how to run things. But from

(02:10:13):
what I see in my scripture, he cannot be pushed
into a corner like that. He cannot be cajoled, nudge manipulated,
backed into a corner. It's just not going to happen.
I don't care how fancy you're and how wonderful your
AI equipment and software and machines are, it ain't going
to happen. So that is a real naivety. If this

(02:10:36):
is what these people truly believe, that's totally unscriptural and
quite said. And what this points out, what this what
I'm springboarding from this into is, Look, we've got to
be so familiar with the truth that when the garbage hits,
we can smell a million miles away. And I've said
that before. We've got to be We've got to have
our nose in the word. We've got to be familiar
with the word. We've got to be on top of

(02:10:58):
things so that we can discern, because these days are evil,
there's no doubt about it, so that we can discern,
have discernment and continue on with the Gospel message and
serving and loving others all right, and taking care of
our brothers and decissors. In the faith it says to
give to all men, but especially those of the household
of faith, and being the light of Christ in a

(02:11:22):
world that, for Heaven's sake, really needs it now more
than ever. And there is something happening. These TPUs said things.
You know, I have a little spark of hope in
some of that. I'm keeping an eye on it, you
know me. I'm king of this skeptics, but I'm kind
of keeping an eye on it. I think it may
be part of something a lot bigger. I think maybe
just a small component of something much bigger than I believe.
It has been hitting our country for some time, which

(02:11:42):
is an awakening. It's beyond a revival. It's an awakening.
And I still say it's probably in the early stages,
but in the earlier stages, maybe the earlier half. But
it's picking up steam. And we see a lot of
things happening on college campuses regarding this stuff. We see
a lots of just happening on the streets and then
the highways and byways. But there is something going on,
and the soul of America has been moved. God is

(02:12:06):
moving it. And there are people in this country who
realize they need a savior, they need Christ. They cannot
handle this madness on their own. Something's missing. They're realizing
something is missing.

Speaker 12 (02:12:17):
Here.

Speaker 3 (02:12:18):
We are on the two and fiftyth anniversary of declaring
our independence from Great Britain. That was a very religious time,
actually very spiritual time. If you go back and look. Heck,
there was one or two of those guys at the
Reverends that signed the declaration of independence. It was a
very very spiritual time. Now, they weren't all what I
would call the Finding followers. Weren't all evangelical Christians, that's true.
Some of them are deists and unitarians and this and

(02:12:39):
that and so on and so forth. And perhaps Thomas
Paine was an agnostic. I think it was an atheist,
but I think he was probably the best an agnostic.
But they had some sense of an appreciation for the
Judaeo Christian ethos. You have to give him credit for that.
And that was a weal from which they dipped from
often and often and deeply. All this stuff together, they

(02:13:01):
looked at other things too. They looked at the Greco
Roman systems of representative democracy and republics and so on
and so forth, the British tourt system, blah blah blah.
They looked at all these components, and you know, kind
of went through a buffet lie of things, a buffet
line of things that they you know, the better parts
of those governments and empires that they pulled from in
terms of how they set up their governments. But even

(02:13:21):
James Madison, chief Arcretary of the Constitution, said he was
pretty much inspired by what he saw in Scripture in
terms of sort of a three branch of government. You
see this sort of threeness, you know, fathers on Holy Spirit,
and even in the way Israel was set up with
the judges and the elders and the tribes and the
clans and so forth. He saw kind of a triune
system of government, and he you know, with the with

(02:13:46):
the judicial, the legislative, and the executive. So he was
to some extent inspired by what he saw in Scripture.
So these were men who appreciated, even if they didn't
fully buy it, they appreciated God's word. I think some
of them did fully buy I think some of them
were what we were today we'll call pretty close to
evangelical Christians. Some them were not. Regardless, they had some
sort of a belief in a God, in a higher power.

(02:14:09):
And look at the fruit of that, look at the
evidence of that. I don't think they could have pulled
off what they pulled off without that. And George Washington,
man of these men and these founding fathers, were men
of prayer, and they would get on their needs and pray.
During Valley Forge, George Washington was praying, his guys were starving,
and miracles did happen. So we're in another kind of crossroads,

(02:14:34):
pivotal moment I think in our American history and Christian
your friend the center, like it or not, and you
need to be praying. You need to be praying if
you want to change the laws of a land, change
the hearts of the lawmakers. I've said that a bazillion
times on this show. Well okay, maybe not a bazillion,
but a half a bazillion. I said that before, and
I'll say it again. I want to change the laws,
change the hearts of the lawmaker, the lawmakers. So this

(02:14:58):
nation needs a touch from the Lord, a big hug
from the Lord, the fire of the Lord, repentance if
we're gonna have genuine, lasting change. And I think this
might be the last two raw for our nation to
get this right before the Lord comes back, before the
acts of judgment is laid at the root, and it

(02:15:18):
may already be. Then we need to return to the Lord.
That's it. We've got to return to the Gospel. We've
got to return to all that. Otherwise we're kind of
spitting in the winds. Christian on that got to call
it today. Sure check out the websites christian Talk at rocks,
dot edor dot com. Take care of those around you,

(02:15:42):
your loved ones around you, love on those around you,
and remember that God is Love. See you next time.

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