Let Us Assume Aliens Are Here | The Present and History Connect with Dan Harary

If we assume extraterrestrials are indeed here and making contact with us, are we indeed seeing evidence of a modern disk shape flying saucer? Dan Harary discusses the latest UAP video from Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp. We connect the significance of past cases to the present and do a little debunker debunking for fun! We will also discuss Dan Harary’s new book, AFTER THEY CAME. Harary is a co-founder of The Hollywood Disclosure Alliance with Steve Bassett; and he is the founder of The WOW Signal newsletter. https://www.thewowsignal.news/

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome back to coffee and UFO's, two of my favorite things.
We have a great guest on here tonight, Dan Harrari.
He is the co founder of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance,
He founded the Wow Signal newsletter, and he is author
of After They Came. We'll speak to Dan in just
a minute. He has been on before and I love

(00:33):
having him on, so this will be a great conversation.
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as we continue to do. So thank you so much
for that. All right, and I'm going to jump right
into it because you know, we've got only so much time. Dan,

(00:56):
Welcome back. How are you hi there?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Alan P. Smith? What is the day there for?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Benjamin?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Alan Benjamin spid That's a good name. That's a good
hearty name, Like that's a real American name, you know, Benjamin,
you should sound like what are the founding fathers? Could
have been? Alan Benjamin Smith?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Well, my mother was thinking Benjamin and so after Ben Franklin.
So that's where that came from.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's and that's very funny because that's what exactly what
I just thought too.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
So you're a natural intuitive.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I've been known to do that. Actually, there have been
times I've pulled things out of the air that were remarkable.
That's in my book called My Paranormal Life, by.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
The way, Yeah, which we talked about last time was
just fantastic. This time we are going to focus on
after they came. But I do want to get your
take on Gosh, there's so much news in the UAP world.
So first I want to start with this recent drop
from Jeremy Corbel and George Knapp. They had received another

(01:54):
video from the government, assumedly the Pentagon of what looks
to be a UAP captured. They don't know the platform
that it was captured from, but at least from the
angle that you see the object, it looks like a
disc shaped object. So I'm just gonna play a clip

(02:16):
of that video now and then we.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Can direction abruptly and starts moving and then goes into
another cloud area.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
The following is video number two. You can just see
it drifting through the clouds, and then this is the
AI version, which helps make it more distinguishable. I mean,

(02:48):
there's no doubt that's a disc shape object.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
That appears to be a disc shaped object. Yeah in
p Smith. Yeah, when did they release that?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
That was just a few days ago. Now it could
it be? Could it be an orb shape and you're
just seeing it from this angle? I don't. I don't know.
But according to Jeremy Corbel, the way the whoever analyzed
it in the government, the way they titled it was
a disc. They referred to it as a disc. Now,

(03:23):
if we had other angles the shot, we'd be able
to better determine whether it was actually a disc or
or an orb or not. It looks like a disc.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
It seems to me that whoever is giving Lou and
George Knapp and Jeremy Corbel videos, it's like dating a
beautiful woman who never sleeps with you.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I be careful where you go, but you went there.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
So I just came up with that one. And I've
done that many many times. They did very very beautiful women,
and they just never slept with me. But the point,
my point is, you know, and I have a book
called Carrots, which you know, carrot on a stick, beautiful
supermodels that I get my mother. You always run after
the supermodels. They're so beautiful. What can I do? I

(04:13):
meet them? These videos are tantalizing crumbs, little baby crumbs,
right the three famous ones from the Navy in twenty seventeen,
you know they tic tac, the gimbal and what was
the go fast? Those three right now and this one.

(04:34):
It's not going to do it. What's it going to do.
It's not going to do anything. All it will do
is more people like us on podcasts, more interviews, more videos, more, more,
more interviews, more, more, more media coverage. It won't do anything.
I've become very contact. In the desert was two weeks
ago and I was I'm the publicist, so I was

(04:55):
there and I spoke and id metal kinds of wonderful people,
and half of the people like, like, you know, Steve Bassett,
our friend, he's like my brother, mister disclosure. Can't wait.
It's going to be Trump. It's going to be Trump.
Trump's going to be the one, he said, he says,
he says, Trump's the last president standing. When the music stops.

(05:17):
I thought that he just told CNN that it just
aired today.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh well, you know, I remember back, you know, a
few years more than a few years ago. Now he
was saying it was going to be Hillary. He was
he really believed Hillary was going to be the one.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, he worked. He according to Stephen, he helped to
this is in his bio. He helped to inject the
UAP issue through John Podesta into the Hillary Clinton twenty
sixteen campaign. Now, I believe Steven, he's never lied to me.
I believe that that to be the case. Now think
about it. You know, had Hillary won, she would have

(05:53):
really gone to bat pretty hard for disclosure. Not that
it would have happened, because in my opinion, whoever the
gatekeepers are, whoever, if you want to call it the
deep state, the black government. To me, the easiest analogy
is the grandsons and the great grandsons of the Majestic twelve.
Think about the think about Majestic twelve. These are twelve

(06:15):
men in nineteen forty seven who were commanded by President
Truman from day one. President Truman created the Truth Embargo
day one, July eighth, nineteen forty seven. That was day
one of the Truth Embargo. Why Roswell had happened? Earlier
that week, July seventh, Walter Hout issued a press release

(06:38):
that ran all over the world that said, hey, we
have a disc. Why would he have sent that out?
It got approved by Colonel Blanchard, his boss, the head
of that base. Sure you don't send out a press
release at that level of information unless that was true
and real. So my joke is that went all over

(06:58):
the world July seventh. The next morning, President Truman, you know,
his butler brings him his coffee and his Danish. You know,
good morning, mister President. Hear your newspaper. Truman reads it.
What Army has a disc? What? I'm the president? They
didn't clear this with me? Who the hell is this Walter?
Who does he think he is? They issued a press

(07:19):
release without my blessing. He or his people must have
screened the Blanchard and how on the phone they must
have Just how dare you do this without us? Reverse this?
Rescind this. Now, I'm a publisher, I've probably done ten
thousand press releases in forty five years. The hardest thing
to do if you're a publicist is to rescind a

(07:41):
press release that you went to ten thousand people. Right,
how do you send it. You know, it's unringing a bell,
it's putting two the base back in the tube. It
can't really be done. However, in nineteen forty seven they
did it. They had a the next day you know this,
your people know this. They did a press conference with

(08:01):
you know, aluminum foil sticks and twigs.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Steve Steve Bassett says it was Reynolds wrap that wrapped
Roger Ramy's fish, probably right, and poor Jesse Marcel, and
they said weather balloon. Oops, uh oh, weather How do
you go from a crash disc to a weather balloon
in twenty four hours? And these were the atomic guys.
These these are the only guys on the planet Earth

(08:26):
that had atomic weapons. These are the most brilliant military
guys probably.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
On the planet Earth at the time. They didn't know
a flying crashed disc from a weather balloon.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Of course, especially Marcel, because he was he was a
security officer. It was his job to know what's going
on there.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
And he's and he's and you you know, you've seen
that famous picture. He's on his knees with the aluminum
with the Reynolds wrap from Ramy's fish, and he's looking
up and he's trying to smile and you look at
it his face. It's really heartbreaking if you look at
his face. I'm friends with Jesse Marcel the third. I
don't know if you've ever interviewed him.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's Jesse Marcel's grandson. Jesse Marcelf the third told me
I interviewed him on my podcast last year. When he
was eight. He was in a boat with his grandfather,
Jesse Marcel's the original senior, and they were in a boat,
like a rowboat or something, fishing and Jesse Martin Sel
told his grandson, Jesse the third, it was an extraterrestrial

(09:28):
craft that we discovered. We found extraterrestrial bodies. What grandson
father was going to lie to his eight year old
grandson about something at that level. Well, the answer is
is not going to be a lie. It's not going
to happen. So that's that's where the whole disclosure truth
Embarco began. I don't remember how we got there, but
that's how. That was day one of the truth in Barko.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah. The interesting thing is the retraction of the story
was so so quick. It was the next day, So
that made it feel like like a whoopsie. But you know,
it's kind of it's kind of hard to accept that
considering you know, Marcel as an older man, said that

(10:16):
he told the people. He told I think it was
Stanton Friedman that what he had in his hands was
not what he found in the desert. And what good
reason would this man, who I believe he had cancer
at the time, and you know, he knew his time
was limited, What good reason would he have to lie

(10:37):
about such a thing. And firstly, you know, why would
he even be confused about about that?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, the bigger picture is in nineteen forty seven, this
is only two years after World War Two? Why would
why would Truman not want to tell the world he
just dropped two atomic bombs. Europe was in shambles, we
were negotiating where we and the Soviet Union stood at
that point. And then Truman's going to tell the world

(11:04):
there's aliens in UFOs and aliens like two years after
the bombs, So probably not, probably not going to want
to do that. The bigger pictures in nineteen forty seven,
the media trusted our government and the military one hundred
percent trusted. It's before JFK got his head blown off
by the CIA. I've studied that for forty five years,

(11:26):
so you believe that was CIA. Absolutely was the CIA.
The CIA orchestrated it. The CIA knew about Oswald from
nineteen fifty nine till the day of his death. He
was in their purview. They followed him every step of
his life from nineteen fifty nine. This was just released recently,
that the CIA knew all about Oswald for four years.

(11:46):
But anyway, before JFK, before before Watergate, before Iran Contrum,
before our wonderful president we have now who never lies
to people. Ever, he's a stable genius. In nineteen forty seven,
and if the military said, oh, we're so sorry, t
he he we really blew that one. The media said, boy,
you guys really blew that Okay, okay, and ran the

(12:10):
next day all over the world. Oops, weather balloon. Right.
So Stanton Freeman, who you've just mentioned, I think it
was in seventy five, got wind of the real story
and resurrected it and met with Jesse, Marcela and the
living witnesses, and poor Stanton Freeman's his head must have exploded,
like what the roswell crash? That was real. So thanks

(12:32):
to him, we know that that was real.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, and the great work you know of you know
raun Schmid and Kevin Randall and so many others in
those early years in the eighties that really dug deep
and got a lot of witnesses to come forward. It
is the most thoroughly investigated case, hands down. I mean,
it's it's phenomenal how much time and effort I was

(12:55):
put into that. Fortunately before many of those that general
passed away.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Right. And if you know what, if you ask the
average person, like my mother heard of Roswell, She's like, oh, yeah,
some it was a crash, something happened. I have no
idea what the average person doesn't know. I mean you
and I know because we're youu fologists. But I love
I love that word. By the way, you follow. I
call myself a twenty year student of uthology.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Can I tell you, Dan, I really appreciate that you
say chrammatically correct? Youufologists follow, you follow, you followed, just
you athology?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
You follow?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Logist threw it up. The guy from CNN screwed. Yeah,
that's it up. I love that word euthologist. I am
a ethologist. Steve Bassett doesn't like that word, but I
think it says it all perfectly.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, you could say you have a researcher if you
like that. The other thing is the retraction of the story.
So the first story that was was put out was
that there was a flying disc. They use the word disc. Yeah,
that was a recover to crash disc. And then later

(14:09):
it was oh, it's pieces of balloon. That My understanding
of the Ruzzell crash is when they recovered the debris,
according to like mac brasl it was debris. So why
if it was just debris, why would the press reliefs
initially say a flying sauce or disc whatever?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Ay, Here's how I understand this. A flying disc was
flying above New Mexico on a very stormy, lightning filled night.
I think. I think the common theory is that a
bolt of lightning struck this craft above mac Brassel's ranch

(14:52):
while it was in the air. So a part of
this craft figure if it's a you know, like a
member terminator too. I remember the bad guy was this
liquid liquid metal? Remember the liquid Robert Patrick. I actually
became friends with him, but Robert.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Patrick was the latest movies ever?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Is that the greatest movie? I saw that with my
son that got five hundred times. And he's the nicest
man on the planet, Robbert Patrick. So we used to
get allergy shots together in Hollywood. A bolt of lightning
hits this craft, so these liquid metal chunks fall and
cover mac Brasel's ranch. I don't know what one hundred

(15:29):
and twenty acres, one hundred whatever, how many acres it was,
but the craft kept flying. So that's field A field
A is mac Braseles field. The craft went another seventy
miles and crashed into the ground in Corona, New Mexico.
That's where the disc was. That's where four dead alien

(15:50):
bodies were. That's where one living alien they named eb
Ebe was. It was Apple's and it was Oranges. It
was two sights, the famous site mac Brasil with the
balloon and the you know aluminum foil that covers Ramy's fish.
And that's what they made Jesse do. But but your point,

(16:11):
Allen is so good because in the press release we
have the disc that means they went to the other site. Yeah,
and they got this huge Now think about it, in
a couple of days. They had a truck, they had
they must have had cranes. I mean, you would think
a flying saucer's got to be on the heavy side.
Maybe it's not. But to lift it onto a flatbag
and then cover it with the tarp and then drive

(16:33):
it to the Rosewell base and it's out in the
desert in the middle of nowhere. That took effort. So
for them to have the disc, this is way more
interesting than the Reynolds wrap aluminum foil balls of metal.
And so when they went forth they said, oh, weather balloon,
here's some metal, here's some aluminum foil. So it was

(16:54):
it was a magician's trick. It was don't look at
this hand. Look at this hand.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Right, And this is the thing. It's the two things.
There's a second site where the disc was found or
you know, a larger portion of the craft that was distinguished,
distinguishable as a disc right included in the report, which
means not only did they know about the second site,

(17:18):
but that it was something that was intact enough to
identify it as a disc. Because if it was just
a weather balloon, then it would have just been debris
and there would have been no confusion. No one would
have ever written a press release.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That said exactly alan. There would have been no press
release weather balloons crashed in the desert all the time.
They were used for years and years and years.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
So back back to this story. This is really interesting
with the image that or the video that Jeremy Corbell
and George Snap released. So often you do hear skeptics,
the muggers say, you know, UFOs go through phases, and
that's because humans go through phases. First it was the discs,
then it was the black triangles, and then it was

(18:01):
the cigars. And the reality is, if if you're an
investigator and you're on you know, MOF on site or
n CAP site or New Fork, you'll you'll do the
work to find out Wait a minute, there's all kinds
of reports of all kinds of shapes happening all the time,
and not just in the United States. And so I

(18:24):
love the fact that this video shows that there's a
disc and that this was captured by our government's platform.
Again I'm saying disc don't really know what that is,
but I just want to put up the still shot here.
So this was this was.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Allan you know what, The truth is, they have so
much better They have such better video. I mean, really, okay,
you and I are squinting like if we stand on
our head and squint with one eye. Yeah, maybe maybe
that's it. Maybe that's it.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
I'm not sure, true, true, But to imagine the incredible,
like the guys like Frav and the guys in in
these aircraft, well they have video cameras, but.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
You can imagine what we have. We commntioned what we've
not seen, the clarity, high death, color, right of the unbelievable.
And they're sending its, Like I said, they're sending crumbs
to Jeremy and George. Here here, guys, here's a crumb.
You know, a gay gazunt. It means living be well
in Yiddish, gay goazunt. Here's a little crumb of a craft.

(19:24):
If you squint and stand on in your head, you'll
see a disc This is why I don't know, that's why.
That's why I'm so frustrated.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Do you think crumb is the right word, because it's
it's obvious, especially with the Wall Street Journal a piece
that came.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Out recently, Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
There is still a disinformation campaign going on coming out
of the Pentagon. If that's true, why would they drip
something like this That doesn't really make sense to me?
It does seem to me that there are individuals that
are trying as best as they can to get whatever
they can out, or perhaps that's just naive day or optimism.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
The Wall Street Journal, our article is very damaging to
our friend and you maybe maybe you've interviewed him. Robert
sallis Bob Bob Sallas. Do you know Bob Sallas is?
Of course, yeah, okay, Bob Sallas is a friend of mine.
He's a good friend of Steve Bassett's. He's on the
board of directors of Hollywood Disclosure Lines in the Hollywood.

(20:22):
In the Wall Street Journal article, it said that when
the Orange UFO over his his base in nineteen sixty
seven at Marril Maelstrom, I can never say that word.
Malmstrom shut down the ICBMs. It was a military, top
secret military project of some kind of platform which had

(20:44):
an orange laser beam and they were shooting it into
the sky to see what it would do. So Bob
Sallas wrote a a rebuttal which is actually on my
website called the Wow Signal dot News. We ran his
rebuttal to the Wall Street Journal. He called that whole
article fantasy. He said, your article is a fantasy. It's fiction.

(21:07):
It's not what happened whatsoever. So and this is this
came out two weeks ago. The Wall Street Journal article
came out two weeks ago. So do I think that
little flying disc is a crumb? Yes, it's a crumb.
It's it's almost like torture. It's like, you know, it's
like if you have I have a dog, if you
go here, here boy, here boy, here's a bone, here's
the bone, and the dog comes, he's all excited, and

(21:27):
then you kick the dog really hard.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Right, I hope you've not done this.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Then I've not done this to my dog. But if
you kick the dog, he goes away. Then a day later,
here boy, here boy, and he comes and you kick
him hard, and he goes away. After by five or
six of those kicks, he's not going to want to
keep coming. It seems to me to give oh, I
see what you're saying, to give a crappy disc video,
crappy video to Jeremy and to George Nap, I don't

(21:53):
see the game. There's no game there.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't know. Let me let me just play this
one more time so you can see the AI enhance,
because I think that does help distinguish the disc from
the field. So let me just play that.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
One direction abruptly and starts moving and then goes into
another cloud area.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
The following is video number two. So this is unenhanced,
but you can clearly see this shadow ish disc going through.
And then this is the enhanced version. And what's interesting, Yeah,

(22:42):
that was pretty good that time exactly. So what's interesting
about the enhanced version is it kind of it emphasized
the reflect The reflection on the edge of the appears
to be a disc, so you can really get a
clear shape. You know, again, AI, you have to be

(23:03):
really careful with these enhanced but when you look at
the tube side by side, there's no doubt there's an
object there. And if they don't know what it is,
that's an odd object and it looks pretty large.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Well, what was cool at this time I noticed is
that it was vertical. It looked like it was horizontical,
and then it was fine vertical. Yeah, it maybe vertical
for a few seconds. Again, what are what? Whoever controls
the truth about NHI extraterrestrials on the earth craft? The

(23:36):
reverse engineering program side note, I'm quite convinced my father
was involved with the reverse engineering program. At Fort Mammouth,
New Jersey, and I wanted to tell you about this.
I'm reading a book, a book someone just told me
about this book called McCarthy, Monmouth and the Deep State.
Joe McCarthy had in the early fifties. No one knows

(24:00):
about his House on American Committee. You know, are you
a communist? But he did another hearings in Congress with
the army, with the US Army, and it was about
a side issue about Roy Cohen's gay lover and it
was not important. But during the course of that hearing,

(24:22):
as stated in this book, communists infiltrated Fort Mammoth, New
Jersey Army base, the Radar Branch division. Well, who worked
there for forty five years? My father, My father worked
at Fort Mammoth Army Base in the Radar Branch for
forty five years. According to this book Allen, and it

(24:45):
blew me away. There are references to that base working
with Project Blue Book. Now that this is in writing,
and it was from the army McCarthy army hearings. Now
I know my dad was involved. He never said a word.
He couldn't, he wasn't allowed to, never even tell my mother.

(25:05):
But my father was involved with radar and guided missiles.
My father helped invent drones. He told me this before
he died. He helped to invent drones. Where am I
going with this? He and his scientist fellows were not
allowed to tell anybody what they did, including my mother. Okay,

(25:29):
they were married for what thirty years? So my mother?
After my father died, I said, Mom, did Dad ever
talk about aliens or UFO craft? She said, in the
early sixties, they took my father into the vaults at
Fort Mammoth Army Base and they showed him something top secret.
My mother said. My father came home, and I had

(25:49):
never heard the story until after he died in twenty seventeen.
My mother said, my father came home. He was very
upset and pale and shaking and very nervous. My mother goes, honey,
what's wrong. My father looked at my mother and said,
I saw something today in the vaults at the base.
It's above top secret. I can never tell you or
anyone as long as I live. And he walked down

(26:12):
the hall and my mother said, your father was never
the same after that day. Now think about it. What
could my father have seen. He was a pretty powerful guy.
What could he have seen that upset him? It had
to be an at craft, a chunk of technology from
the future, an extraterrestrial living or dead. I think it

(26:36):
was a piece of technology because where he worked, anything
that crashed anywhere in the world, from Russia or China
or anything. Fort Mammoth was one of the bases that
it was brought to because they had these brilliant scientists there,
like my father, to reverse engineer and figure out how
these things worked. So my dad did not He was

(26:58):
not allowed to tell the world what he knew. Right,
He went to his grave, never said a word. Bob Sallas,
he's eighty four years old. Bob Sallas is like, hey,
extra terrestrials turned off our military nuclear weapons. He's still alive.
He just wrote a rebuttal to the Wall Street Journal,
and he's trying to say, hey, some of us are

(27:19):
still alive from an earlier era. Hear us out. Steve Bassett,
you know this. Steve Bassett and Danny Sheehan are trying
to get the nuclear witnesses before Congress. Robert Sallas, and
there's two other gentlemen. I always forget their names, but
they want them to testify before they pass away. So again,

(27:39):
going back to that video, it's a cool video of
a disc. I'm glad Jeremy Corbell got it. I met
Jeremy last year. Is that going to change the Is
that going to bring disclosure?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
It's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
No, but that is an interesting idea that indeed, this
might be a kind of a syops thing where you
tease something out and you just get people so frustrated
they just start to tune out. Right, it's like exactly
given just enough to get them excited. But when you
hit that peak of excitement and then it drops off again,
then you peak and then you drop.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You nailed it. Literally, I'm glad what you just said,
because Contacted the Desert was two weeks ago, and in
the last two weeks I've been really depressed. I've been
really depressed because the top people in the world were
Contacting the Desert and here we are two weeks later
and there's no disclosure. We're nowhere near that, and it's
getting very frustrating.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
No, but yeah, I'd like to believe that we're in
a kind of a soft disclosure. I have a question
from Greg Howie says, does Dan have info on the
age of disclosure distribution deals?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's is that Dan Farre's documentary? Yeah, yeah, no, I don't.
I don't. But on that similar related topic, Ron James
is a good friend of mine. His next film, Accidental
Truth Next, is coming out in the fall, and it's

(29:07):
going to be the most current of the films. Here's
what happened as I know it, in the last few years.
Accidental Truth came out from Ron James in twenty twenty three,
Then James Fox's movie The Program came out in twenty
twenty four. Then Dan Farres came out. I believe it

(29:28):
was early this year or either late last year early
this year?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Was now was it south By Southwest?

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, that's exactly right, You're exactly right. So that was
that one, And now Ron James's I told Ron James
to his face, I said, you Dan Farrah and James Fox,
you're leap frogging each other like you think you think
that's a good one. Wait do you see the program? Well?
Wait you see AHAs like wait you see Accidental Truth Next,
which Ron previewed at Contacting Does Next is going to

(29:56):
come out in September or October. So I don't I
know about that film in particular. But what's happening is
these high profile documentarians Ron James, Dan Farrah, James Fox,
who I finally met a contact, nice guy. They are
putting out more content, more often on a regular basis.

(30:18):
Now here's what's interesting. In the history of Hollywood. One
documentary film in the history of Hollywood, one has been
in theaters that's related to this topic, and that was
Chariots of the Gods, based on Eric von Danakin's book.
I believe that film came out to theaters in nineteen seventy.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
So Steve Bassett, he told me this, He said, Dan
in the history of film, there's been one one documentary
that's been in theaters, and Eric was you know, it
was the Ancient Alien Theory, which I absolutely believe in
and I'm a huge fan. And as soon as I
heard about it, it changed, literally changed my entire life.
Georgia Chucolos told me in two thousand and seven, I

(31:03):
changed my life. So if if a Farah or James
Fox or Ron James, if let's say Warner, I mean
Warner Brothers could do this tomorrow. They could call Ron
James and say, we hear you. You have the most
current UAP doc there is on the planet Earth. We
want to put it in theaters. Any studio could put

(31:25):
it out tomorrow. It doesn't happen. Why the media, Not
that the media is complicit. The media, in my opinion,
the media is ignorant. They're ignorant. They don't get it.
They just don't understand how huge this topic is.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, but that's that's the thing, is that it takes
a long long time to get it, even handle it.
On the UFO topic, it goes back decades. It's so rich.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, right, you.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Can't just jump into it and know it in a
week or in a couple of months even or a year.
I mean, it's a lot of work. As you know,
it's like it's and then that's ongoing.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
That's why that's why I refer to myself as a
I was interviewed by CNN. I said, I am a
twenty year student of upology exactly and literally twenty years, right,
and Alan, I know this much. I know this much,
which is way more than the average person. But like

(32:26):
Richard Dolan, you know, or or or Jacquesalle, I was
going to say I swear it's going to say Jacqueesly
or Paula Harris or some of these or some of
the Eric Vandanak and Georgia, some of these people who
have been around for decades, they.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Have doing it full time.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
They have a big picture. They see all the I've
been studying. You know, I know about Roswell, I know this,
I know this. There are things that come out. Oh
how about all right, I'll test you right now. Do
you know about the nineteen thirty three Magenta crash in Italy? Yeah? Yeah,
I do and helped to right exactly the Yeah, okay,

(33:07):
so I just heard about that recently. How did I
hear about this? Two members of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance
are filmmakers. They're in our group, and they this is cool.
They're working on a TV series about that crash. They
have an inside connection to the Vatican and they are

(33:28):
hoping with like fingers and toes crossed to get these
files from the Vatican about the Magenta nineteen thirty three crash.
And they think there. I had dinner with them two
weeks ago. They think they're going to get this. So
that's pretty cool. Now, I in twenty years, I never
heard of the Magenta crash. You know, everyone thinks it's
Roswell Ross. Well, I knew Roswell's forty seven. I know

(33:51):
the Foo Fighters are forty three, forty four. I know
the Battle of Los Angeles. You know, the Battle of
Los Angeles was forty two, right after Harbor and then
in eighteen I believe it was eighteen ninety eight Aurora,
Texas when the crash hit the windmill. But in nineteen
thirty three, think about in the modern era, modern one
hundred year era of our history. The Magenta Crash, according

(34:16):
to these friends of mine Steve Bassett was with me,
is a documented recovered craft by the Italian Army in
nineteen thirty three, and then the American Army during World
War Two apparently got this craft. It was very well protected.
When we were at war with Italy in the forties,

(34:36):
we got the craft and brought it, I think either
to Roswell or right Patterson.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Well, I'm looking forward to that because I think there's
a lot of details that are necessary that we're missing,
like how did we how did they get it out
of the hands of Musolini the Italians? How did it
get passed from one place to the other and not
and be a cover up at the same time. That's

(35:00):
astounding to me because you know, if that's true, then
presumably the Army was aware of this when the Roswell
crash occurred, because it means someone had to be studying this,
and since the Army was the air force for the

(35:22):
most point in those early years, they were the only
ones that would have had access to this.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
President Roosevelt knew about the Battle of Los Angeles. It
was at Nathan Twining And I think there's a famous
memo from a general to FDR and said there was
an unidentified craft over Santa Monica, of all places, Santa
Monica Ocean, Pacific Ocean. That was February nineteen forty two.

(35:49):
FDR knew about UFOs at the at least at least
in nineteen forty two. Okay, but again Magenta nineteen thirty three.
That blows my mind because it's that one. For me personally,
I never heard of that crash. I was like, Wow,
that's the coolest thing I need to know about it?
About it?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Have you ever talked to Darcy Weir?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I know Darcy wear Yes.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Okay, I have to tell you I love his multi
episode format like the Pasca Gula series. Gosh was the
one before that, Usos Usos. But but I love that
he's doing like a series instead of like an hour

(36:32):
and a half documentary or an hour forty five minutes,
he's doing five six episodes and he gets to do
a much deeper dive. And I just love his work
in that regard. A.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I know him, he's a member of my group. B
I've I've had I had at lunch with him once
a few years ago. I didn't I know he did
US shows. I heard he did Pasca Gula, which I've
been I have. I'm glad you brought that up. I
meaning to look into. That's a fascinating case. You know,
that's a fascinating all right review. Most people in this field.
Most people have heard of Travis Walton, very very famous, right,

(37:07):
that's a famous one. Most people like us, Betty and
Barney Hill, very very famous, very infamous, iconic, the Pascagoula
Calvin Parker and Charles Hickson, those guys that's just as
good as the other two. That's just as good, just
as good, and that never you know, my joke is
they didn't have a good publicist. They didn't have Betty

(37:30):
and Barney Hill or Travis Walton's publisher. That case is
not as well known in ufology as the other two.
I never understood why.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
I think there's a few elements for that. So Betty
and Barney Hill, that was the first real big abduction report,
So I think that alone, right, But they also had
a and maybe it shouldn't matter, and maybe it didn't matter.
I don't know, because they were an interracial couple. I
think that added something to the curiosity of it at

(38:00):
the time. Uh, Travis Walton, the crew members, they were
accused of murder and got headlines, headlines for that, so
you know, whereas Pasco Gula didn't. It didn't have any
kind of a flare other than the description of what
actually happened to them.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
And the deep out and the deep South.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, and and I hate to say it, but I
bet you that there are some people that didn't take
them as seriously because they're from Missouri.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
You know, like they did a great totally agreed unfairly.
So you nailed it, You absolutely nailed it. And Betty
and Barney only told their I think their neighbor, their relatives,
and they and their psychiatrists. The psychiatrist broke that story
to Simon. Yeah, which you know, if you think about that,
he didn't. I don't think he had their permission. He

(38:47):
should not have done that.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
No, I think I think he did so to do
that well for the book is the book that he wrote,
the forward to John Fuller's book, The Interrupted Journey, And they,
you know, did give him permission for that, because by
that time Benny and Barney had already gone out and
there started to do interviews and radio interviews that sort
of thing.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
That was a slow It was a slow trip.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
It was a slow drip because the event was sixty one.
The book came out I think in a couple of
years later. Yeah, it was like four years later or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah. And again, like you said, Travis had six He
had six coworkers with him. I witnessed his slash murder
murder suspects. They all passed light to attack their tests.
They all said, why would we kill him? He was
you know, he was the brother in law of Mike Rodgers,
one of the guys. It was his brother in law.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, his sister Dana was married to Mike. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
So the PASCA the poor Pasca Gula guys man. They're
as credible as any other of those stories, and so
so kudos to to Darcy where I've been meaning He
actually told me to watch that series. He told me
less time, my son, I've been meaning to watch that.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I really. I wish so many more the numbers
that that go see a James Fox film. I wish
they would go and watch Pascagoula series. It's so good.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I can't think it's praises any any higher.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Whitley Whitley Striebers another high profile one, and and his
book was like his book, I mean he he's probably
at the apex. His book was the best seller community.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
His book Communion was such a best seller that the
infamous Philip Philip Class, when he decided to to debunk abductions,
he used the same tactic.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Right, yeah, yeah, good old Philip Class. I'd like to
I'd like to see him get an anal probe on
a Martian ship and then still come back and say, oh,
there's no aliens, there's no aliens.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I don't know what his motive was. I do feel
like he was connected to the Pentagon somehow as a
disinformation agent, but you know, we don't know know.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
On that note, On that note, friends with Paul Heinek,
lovely guy. I'm good friends with him. His and he
said this publicly. His father, Jalen Heinick, was a total
skeptic when he was asked, and he did not just
blue Book, He did Sign and Grudge. Alan Heinick was
he did Project Sign, Project Grudge, project blue Book. He
did all three of them. He was a total skeptic

(41:19):
at first for years and years, and along the way
more and more and more credible evidence and witnesses, and
he's thinking, wait a minute, I might be on the
wrong side of this fence here. And then the famous
night I think it was nineteen sixty five swamp gas
and Michigan swamp guess, swamp guest. He got crucified. He
got crucified. And then he thought, did you ever see

(41:41):
the movie Bridge Over the River? Quiet? Do you ever
see that movie? No?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I don't think I have.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Actually I watched I watched it once a year.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Is that a Steve McQueen movie or no?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Sir Alecuinness, Sir Alcinnis is the star. At the end
of that movie. He builds a he builds a bridge
for his Japanese. He's a prisoner of war camp with
his men and they have to build a bridge as
part of their punishment. And he builds a magnificent, gorgeous,
beautiful bridge, and he's so proud of it. It's a

(42:11):
magnificent piece. But what he did was he's helping the
Japanese win the war. So at the tail end of
the movie, the British intelligence guys come up to him.
They go, they go, they go, look, they go, look
at the bridge. You're helping the Japanese. And he goes,
oh my god, what have I done? What have I done?
And then he falls on his plunger and on this

(42:31):
dynamite at the last possible second. It's a great movie,
and he blows up the bridge. At the tail end
of the movie, he blows up the bridge that he
spent a year building. That's like Alan heinek Alan Heine's like,
oh my god. The swamp guess He's like, oh my god,
what have I done? Right? And he turned and then
he realized there was a lot of credibility to this.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Hey, do you have any inside scoop on what Spielberg's
upcoming UFO movie is going to be.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
It's called Disclosure. It's filming in New Jersey. Emily Blunt
is the star. And that's all that has been released officially.
When Steve I was with Steve Bassett the day that
was announced, Allen, and you can imagine how Steve Bassett was.
We were at lunch and we saw it on our phones.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Spielberg's in the movie is called Disclosure, and I mean
he almost had literally almost like criteris of Joy. I'm
not even kidding that it would be like Steven's like
you know best. It's like finally, like I'm gonna get,
you know, some indirect credit for helping. So let's hope
Stephen Steven Spielberg's been ahead of the curve on this
since Close Encounters, so let's hope that's something. Also, there's

(43:40):
another film by Jerry Bruckheimer. Do you know that name.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Of course, he's huge.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Jerry Bruckheimer, major, huge, huge producer in Hollywood. He did
The Missioned Right, not Mission Impossible. He did Top Top Gun,
Beverly Hills, Cop, He m edd and he did a
lot of huge movies. He's doing a movie called The
Dish and guess who his advisor is, David Crush. Interesting,

(44:11):
David Grush is doing the dish, so Spielberg's and Jerry
and Simpson, Jerryson, uh Brockheimer, I'm sorry, his partner, his
partner was done, Simpsons, Bruckheimer and Spielberg. Next year that
each have and these are going to be big, multimillion
dollar films. So maybe next year, you know, maybe next
year is the year of disclosure.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
That could really at least shift the conversation in the
same way that Close Encounters the Third kind? Did you
know that that that really got the public discourse on
fire about the topic of UFOs and extraterrestrials. It was, well,
you need that on pop culture again to kind of
you know, wrote.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
That Close Encounters a was I watched. I literally watch
it once a year. I cry at the end every
single time. I think I've seen it sixty times five blushed.
I yes, this is I I never I could never,
ever get tired of the last hour of Close Encounters.
I'm enthralled. I've enthralled every single time. Alan Heinik was
Steven Spielberg's advisor on that film. I've heard from Paul

(45:13):
Heinik that parts of that film were inspired by some
true sightings and some true events. Boy did Stephen do
Wright by the ufology community, and that film came out
in seventy seven. Oh, I have this is very cool.
I have to tell you this. So I have a
new news website called the Wow Signal dot News, which

(45:35):
I mentioned earlier, and we post news from all over
the world from ufologists. It's the Wow Signal dot News.
When I launched that in March, Alan I got an
email from a guy in Greece and he wrote to me.
He said, Dan, I love your Wow Signal news website.
And he wrote to me and he said, did you
know that the original Wow Signal itself was a musical melody?

(46:00):
And he This guy is in Greece. He's the head
of the Contact Project. It's a UFO group in Greece.
He's a musician. He put the letters and numerals from
the actual Wow Signal to music. It's on my website.
It's on the Wow Signal. You can hear it. It's
a tune. It's a musical tune.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
And no one thought to consider this previously.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Court have you, No, No one has. So Okay, So
that's number one.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Here's Allan, here's where it gets really fascinating.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Here's where it gets good. And my mother, my mother,
ninety one year old mother, figured this out. Okay, I
told her about this, I said, Mom. In August nineteen
seventy seven, the real Wow signal happened from outer space
and a Guya known Greece said it to music, and
it's like a little you know, da da da da
da da da da da. It's like a little tune.

(46:53):
My mother said, that reminds me of the music from.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Encounter.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
So that's five notes now here, Alan, here's where it
gets good. The Wow signal happened in August seventy seven.
Close Encounters came out in December seventy seven. Now, did Spielberg, No,
I'm getting chills right now. I think you just think
about this. Did Spielberg know that the Wow signal was

(47:23):
a musical melody? Think about that.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I don't know. I mean, it's not the exact same
melody itself.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
No, no, no, no, no. The point is. The point is
a message from outer space was translated into a musical
tune in August, in real life in August, and then
in the film five six months later.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I could have I could imagine if if they were
pretty to the wow signal, that just as a creative person,
he and John Williams might have just said, hey, what
if it was because in the interviews about the movie
that that they did have that converse stations, how would
they communicate? Right? And they came to math represented in

(48:07):
the form of music as a way to do that.
So maybe that was sort of the seed of the idea.
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
It's a remarkable coincidence. It was that it was the
same year that it was the same year, right.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dan, before we went out of time,
let's talk about your book after they came.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
So thank you very much. So after they came. The
quick story is in March nineteen seventy, when I was thirteen,
my dad picked me up one day from school and
was driving me home suburban New Jersey afternoon sunny day.
As we're driving, a huge silver V letter v Craft
was hovering over my father's car and I saw it

(48:45):
through the windshield. I said, Dad, stop the car. There's
a UFO. Dad, stop the car. We stopped the car,
we got out, We're standing. I'm thirteen now and I'm
jumping up at the.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Dad look at Star Trek, at Star Trek, and.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
My dad looked at this giant silver now and if
this was you and me, man, we'd be breaking pinatas,
we'd be singing, dancing the horror. Right, my dad looked
at it. Couldn't care left four to the tears, four
to tears, huge silver v silent, no propellers, no smoke,
nothing hovering above his car. Wouldn't like wouldn't like you

(49:18):
be amazed at that?

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
I was. My father had no interest in this at all. Okay,
cut too. I forgot that that happened. For forty seven years,
that event was not thought about, and I never and
I regret this. I never ever discussed it with my
father ever. Never. Once forty seven years, I forgot that

(49:41):
that happened. What happened later with that? Forty seven years later,
my father died in Florida twenty seventeen. He died and
I was here in La Three days after he died.
I went to get to Deli to get a pastrami
sandwich in my father's honor, to just mourn my father.
And I swear I've told the story all over the world.
It's a true story. I'm sitting there mourning my father.

(50:03):
A beam of light hit me in the head from above, hard, bang,
really hard in my head, and then projected through my
eyes in front of me, like I'm looking at you
right now in the air color three D hologram home
movie of the nineteen seventy UFO siding I had with

(50:23):
my father. It played in the air from forty seven
years earlier. It played, now, can you imagine such a
thing happened?

Speaker 1 (50:33):
This is real, this is I swear on my daughter's life.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
This is a true story. This is a true story.
It played. It was a digital download. It played like this.
It was rectangular. It was like an HD screen suspended
in the air at the deli. I'm waiting for my
Pastrami sandwich right and I'm like, oh my god. Now
it wasn't a memory or my point of view. I
was in this little movie. It was my father's car, me,

(50:56):
my father, and then the V and it was like
God was the camera man, like Cecil b. De Mill,
you know, like God had like taken this. Now you
know what the Acashak record is. I just heard about
that recently and I asked an expert and she said, yeah,
that sounds like that. Download was given to me from
the Akashak records because it's library it was, it really was.

(51:19):
I watched it, okay, so I.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Said, a library guard. And you didn't even realize it.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Well, this is three days after my father died. Now
that's part of this story.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Too interesting book.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
And this time in the little video, he winked at me,
and he winked at me, and I remembered he had
said to me, come on, kid, let's go home. This
time he winked at me and said, come on, kid,
let's go home. Okay. Then it dissipated. Then in my ear,
I hear, get a pen, Get a pen, Get a pin.
You need a pen. I asked the waiter for a pen.
I wrote on the paper placement. My hand did automatic writing.

(51:47):
You heard of that, sure, okay? I never did it
before or since in my life. My hand wrote, write
a book about benevolent aliens. Lead character's father knew about UFOs.
And then I wrote capital A, capital T, capital C.
My hands stopped moving. I held the paper and I'm shaking.

(52:08):
I'm like, what is happening here? And after a few
minutes I came up with after they came ATC, this
book was given to me at the Delhi three days
after my father died. I think my father gave it
to me from heaven. Stephen Bassett thinks it was an
ET download from the nineteen seventy encounter that I had.

(52:30):
Either way, it gave me a book. That that's how
this book came to be. The book very simply is
two benevolent aliens come to Earth in the near future
from the Pleiades. They're the seven foot tall beautiful Nordics
manned woman in the movie Brad Pitt and Blake Lively,
the beautiful blondes on planet Earth in real life would

(52:51):
be the two aliens. And on page one of the book,
our hero is a seventy year old man. He hates
his life. He's miserable, he's suicidal, hates his life, wants
to He's drowning himself in the Pacific Ocean on his
seventieth birthday because he hates his life. That's how the
book starts. And as this Poorbassaard is drowning, a huge
craft comes out of the Pacific Ocean. In fact, you

(53:13):
know there's a UFL base off of Malibu that has
been identified. So my book takes place in Malibu. There
a craft comes out of the ocean, beams this guy
on board. They go to Dodger Stadium. They beam down
Dodger Stadium. All the media and the army and the military,
the police are all there, and the aliens te telepathically say,

(53:34):
people of the world, we love you. Don't be afraid.
We're here to help you. We love mankind. We've been
coming here for hundreds of thousands of years. We are
going to solve all of your problems working through this man. Now,
this guy was just drowning, right, he's naked. He was
drowning himself naked, so he's drowning. He's on second base.
He's completely out of it, no idea what's happening. And

(53:57):
aliens from God knows where are saying, this guy is
special to us. We have a relationship with him. Bring
your problems to him. He will be our conduit to mankind.
So during the entire course of the book, he meets
the President, he gets in office at the UN, he
becomes the ambassador to Earth for these for these aliens,

(54:19):
they solve hunger, they end the nuclear age, they get
rid of guns, they get rid of cancer. It's a
fairy to Nick Pope gave me the quote on the
on the cover, it says, it's a delightful tale of
wonder and hope. But the key here is in the book.
Along the way, this character finds out that his dead father,

(54:39):
who was a scientist, worked on UFO research and had
a relationship with the aliens years before this guy was
even born. How about that?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
That sounds sounds personal.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
So that's where this book came from. Now available on audiobook.
It'll be a year and a half to record, so Amazon, Amazon, Amazon,
after they came please check out my audio book. I'd
love to hear what people think about it.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah, yeah, so there is a paperback available plus the audiobook.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Paperback, ebook and audiobook just came out the other day.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
We got a great comment here from Jingis Khan. Jingas says,
saw some article which I also saw, about some type
of whales that may have been trying to communicate to
us humans by blowing circle bubbles. Did you see that, Dan,
that article that came out.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I did not see that. But whales and dolphins are
smarter than human beings. They have much much more sofic.
They have built in sonar. I believe they have sonar.
I think scientists figure it out sonar from dolphin brings.
They go yeah, and it bounces off of the distance
and comes back, so they'll know what's ahead of them.

(55:46):
I've not heard that, but oh, I have something related, true,
I have a minute you do yeah, okay, this is related.
Last Contact twenty twenty four, the last night of contact
in the last year, we had a CE five event.
Not two hundred people were outside and for two and
a half hours we're holding hands, looking up beautiful sky,

(56:08):
palm springs, clear night, and we're looking up, oh space, brothers,
please show yourselves. We love you, we know you love mankind.
We want to commune with you. Please show yourselves. We
really want to see you. And I thought it was lovely.
It was really it was really quite wonderful. I expected
absolutely nothing to happen. You know, after two and a

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half hours, you get like, okay, it's enough already, you
know that guy. Okay, So two and a half hours came,
and this is true. I look at my watch and
it's ten thirty at night. I had to get up
early the next morning. I look at my watch on
I said, if I swear, I said to myself, if
I don't see UFO in the next five minutes. I'm leaving.
As soon as I thought that bang in the sky

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above us, bang, a dark black cloud of smoke appeared
three hundred feet above us, no more, and a V,
a white V, came out of that black smoke. It
was bright white V rounded edges. It had a gold
color ribbon through it like it looked like vanilla ice
cream with caramels. And here's why I bring this up.

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The underpart of the V had octopus suction pods, three
on one wing, three on the other. They were translucent,
light brown with veins lit up, and they were pulsing
like this pulse poo, pum, pumpum, bumpum. And I saw
this with my own eyes. I said to the guy

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next to me, whatever that thing is, that's alive. It
was a craft that had some kind of live biologic
entity attached to it. Was almost like an octopus had
wrapped itself around a craft and was getting catching the
ride across the heavens. And I swear on my daughter
that's a true story. So I don't know it released
the whales, but I saw an octopus. You, well, that's

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pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Yeah, we don't know how technology will evolve. It will
be sort of integration between you know, silica and and
carbon based I mean, or there's some other iteration of
a hybrid technology. Were probably only one hundred or so
years away from something like that. I think for.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Us way, there's no way that that craft was a mill.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I know my father worked at military UFOs. I know
he did because he invented draw helped him vent drones,
and some of them were made to look like UFOs
to fool the enemy. But this thing, alan, this was
this was a living entity that was integrated into a
piece of technology. I don't think our military, if our
military has that there are thousand years ahead of what

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we know about.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Well that makes that video that Corbel and that just
released all the more interesting because they and others, when
you look at that video, it reminds of the movie Nope.
Did you see Nope?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah sure.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
And so that was kind of like the idea of
like there was this living thing being that it looks
like a UFO.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I show one with my own eyes, so I'm not pushy.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
That's really interesting. And the way that that disc is
moving through the clouds like it just like in the
movie Note right, it's kind of hiding using the cloud
slid to disguise its existence. Dan, I just want to
get this one second part to the whales blowing bubble
circles for communication. So Jing says that maybe we should

(59:27):
be looking at the crop circles in a similar way.
Maybe there's that kind of correlation there, or.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
I think, certainly I think us scientists, I think scientists
around the world in this day and age of computers
and AI. If you take some of the magnificent crop
circle photos and shove them into a computer and ask ai,
okay ai, what is this? What is this crop circle?

(59:54):
What is it? I truly believe some of them are
mathematical equations or scientific information or codes, or they're trying
to tell us where they are, what star system they're from.
I absolutely crop circles are incredibly important. And that's another thing.
Why why why every time there's an amazing crops are girl,

(01:00:15):
Why is that not the front page of the New
York Times? You know, David Grush testified in twenty twenty three.
It was on page nineteen of the LA Times and
a little column alan, a little tiny article. I'm thinking
this guy just went before Congress live swearing on a
bible in his children's lives that there's aliens in UFOs

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And the La Times couldn't put that on the front page.
They couldn't put that on the front page, that there's
aliens the next day. The media is so hesitant to
embrace this topic. It's just so frustrating, though it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Dan, we are at the end. Thank you so much.
I really enjoyed this conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
He said, we could do We could have done another
two hours other heads. I think, thank you man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I wish you were on the East Coat, but I
and I know you're You're a West Coaster, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
On the East coast. I'll check you out. Come to
l A. I'll buy you a Stravi.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Salings okay, or coffee. I'm a coffee guy. Coffee any
time of the day with you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Apparently, where do you want people to go to find
out more about your work?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Okay? So thank you very much for having me on
three things. Dan Harari author dot com, Dan Harari author
dot com. All my actually have written five books. They're
all there. Hollywood Disclosure Alliance dot org. Am I shirt here,
I can I always do it wrong. There it is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Let me get on the big screen.

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Okay, there it is. Okay.

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And the sign you have in the.

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Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
I am, and I believe I signed up already. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Are you a member?

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I get the Wow Signal and I'm pretty sure I
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Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Are you are you on the I'm not sure if
you're remember on the one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I'm not a member? No, but don't you send out
a newsletter on yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
Yeah? Yeah.

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And then the other thing is the Wow Signal dot News.
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Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Thank you, Dan, that's awesome. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Absolutely you should absolutely be there, so Dan Hurrari Author
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tip your waitresses. I used to do. I used to
stand up coming. Be sure you tip your waitress.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
And waiters because I was a waiter.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Waiter, the waitresses, we're always a luckiater than the waiters.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Dan, thanks so much man, good night.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
I really appreciate you. Have a great weekend.

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