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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome everybody, Welcome to the Conservative Commander's Radio Show. This
is a very special edition. I'm Rick Trada. My cost
today is Sharon angle In. Joining us live is Michael Letz.
Michael is the president CEO of invest USA and he
has a lifelong career in law enforcement. And Michael, thank

(00:42):
you for joining us. We're starting this show with very
very very sad news that conservative icon Charlie Kirk has
been shot in Utah. At the present, there is conflicting
reports about what conditioning is in. Some sites are already

(01:05):
saying that he has passed. Some sites say he's in
critical condition. Michael, do you know anything that we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It was a few minutes ago he was still alive,
but he's fighting for his life. The shot was very traumatic.
It was a lot of loss of blood and of course,
you know when it takes you let's just be blood.
Unless you're being shot right here in the hospital, you
can be treated immediately. There's transportation time. Yes, we are
you know, medics and we were you know, especially of

(01:39):
military operations, we do this all the time in the
field with a traumatic injury. But you've got to stop
the loss of blood and you've got to keep the
Bible over is intact, making sure they get blood supply,
because once they start shutting down the rick, it's hard
to reverse that. And unfortunately he's had a huge loss
of blood and so there he's he's fighting, and our

(02:00):
prayers are there. But you know, I mean, I think
every moment could change it, and any moment.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Michael, already, there are videos out there showing the actual shooting.
The video that I shaw I saw was taken from
mere feet away. Looks like the person that was taking
the video was in the first or second row this crowd.
I saw maybe a different video than what Sharon saw.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Counting we're not counting gang violence.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Oh my god, you know how many matches are there
being in America over the last ten years counting were
not counting gang violence?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Great?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Counting gang violence great.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
The video that I shaw showed him immediately like paralyzed
and he fell back. I didn't see any blood, Sharon
says she saw a video with blood gushing out and
a shot. You've seen both. What is your impression of

(03:18):
that type of gunshot? Michael? How survivable? I know you're
not a doctor, you don't even play one on television,
but in your estimation, how survivable is a shot like that?
And I don't know. I guess we already got to
talk about long term, long term life aspects or Charlie Kirky,

(03:41):
if he survives this type of wound, a shot to
the neck, I mean, you've got the the spinal column,
you've got the spinal cords, you've got nerves. I mean,
I'm searching, Michael, because this is all so sudden, But
what is your impression of the video you saw?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well, let's take a look at Let's go back to
you and step back, say two frames before they actually hit,
and as you advance it forward, you'll see on both
of both videos they hit show then upward thrust initially
of Charlie. Now, the upward thrust.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Had it been.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Higher in the neck, you would have not have had
an upward thrust. Okay, we've had a backward immedia backward thrust,
not an upward and then backward thrust. So if it
was a little lower, that would give him the chance that, yes,
it nicked the the artery, but it would have also
given the ability to put a stop, to stop the

(04:47):
bleeding long enough to be able to keep him alive
of course the downside of this, and and I'm upset
rickcause had he had an active shoot a vest on,
that bullet would not have penetrated. Now, if you're talking
about upper neck, okay, then obviously that's a different story.
But now let's deal with both videos. The first one

(05:08):
that you talked about, Rick, there was a hit or
an upper thrust and then back, but no blood. The
second one there's a hit upper back and then the
blood comes gushing. I'm not so sure that the videos
are not different. For say, they're just segments, they're just
micro seconds in difference in timing. You now, with an

(05:29):
amount of blood coming out in the second video definitely
shows that that Arrety was Nick, if not totally separate.
And that's where we're getting into. You asked the initially
when we came on. Is he alive as he did?
When you get hits? The same thing that happened with
the poor young lady that was stabbed on the train

(05:50):
in Charlotte. When you cut an artery like that, it
bleeds profusely. It doesn't take very long to bleed out,
and that's how you die. You just simply bleed out.
So Charlie was.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I'm not, You're not losing my attention. I'm also keeping
track of the of the news that is coming in.
I'm looking for any updates on condition or anything like that.
And you know, Michael, you mentioned the young lady in
North Carolina who is stabbed in the neck by a

(06:25):
lifelong criminal. Looks like right away the left comes out
and say, well, we can't make this political, we can't
make this political. But the first words out of their
mouths Michael, And this has got me going to the
first word out of the left's mouth is well, now
that they shot the shot Charlie Kirk, one of their own,

(06:49):
maybe finally we're going to get gun control.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know why you hear me chuckling Rick again, I've
never seen a gun shoot itself. It's always the person,
and it's the motivation behind the person. Whether it is
an assailant killing a young girl who's been release pre release,
early release is exact terminology fourteen separate times, because he's

(07:18):
been in prison for fourteen separate times. Whether it was
you know, right down the street there here in Columbia
we had a girl that was killed the same way
he had been arrested forty times, and get it let
out and shot and killed the young girl here at
the University of South Carolina, or whether it's somebody shooting
Charlie Kirk because of this hatred the left eyeology has.

(07:40):
You know, it's one thing for us to have debates, Charlie,
I mean, Rick, sorry about that, but one thing you
united disagree philosophically. It's another thing to not be able
to live with differences and to feel like if we
have differences that mine will prevail at the cost of
your life if necessary. Those kind of people don't belong

(08:02):
to be walking freely in our society. They want a
wat freely. Either find another country to go to, or
we're going to find the two by four and make
sure that you don't want freely anymore. So it's very simple.
And what happens now is with the kind of political
ideology that the left is portrayed, and they always like
to shift the blames. They never want to assume responsibility.

(08:25):
That's the whole problem we've talked about for years on
your show. Rick. Nobody wants to be accountable for me anymore.
And so the left is saying we're not responsible for
these shooting, even though we're the ones crying for them,
even the ones we're excusing the hate, it's always somebody
else's fart. You made us to it. Now, you made
that decision, and that's where we have to rain in
and start really forcing people to see that they're going

(08:45):
to be accountable. And I don't think we've done a
very good job with that so far. And I think
we're trying to now Rick, you.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Know, Michael, very coincidentally or not, Charlie Kirk was taking
questions from the audience the way he usually does. He
got the first question, and the shot happened during the
second question, and the second question was about taking guns

(09:13):
away from transvestates transsexuals. Do you find any irony in that,
Michael Letts or maybe that was the plan?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, that was the plan, I think, you know, I
don't think it's hired, and I think it was established
that way. He set up that way. And the reason
why I say that is, let's just be very blunt,
let's just deal with this issue since you brought it up.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Break.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I pulled the records just for the last nine active
shooter cases we've had across the country, whether they've been
in elementary schools, shopping malls, churches, restaurants, whatever, makes no difference.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
All nine.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
We're done by transgenders, okay, all nine. And so even
the American Medical Association is now kind of but legally saying,
maybe it's mental illness. Maybe maybe maybe there's something wrong
with these people that are doing that. Now we both
know it's not mental illness. It's a problem with just
a warped, sinful outlook on life. But that having been said,

(10:13):
they take great offense to somehow being said that their
actions and their lifestyle is not normal. It's it's sick,
it's the immoral, it's an illness. I don't use the
word illness. It's a sin problem. But they're even admitting
that it's an illness. And so because that is being said,
they want to silence that. And so these people that

(10:34):
are feeling offended that they're being told that they're mentally skewed,
shall we say, are more than happy to be participants
in taking out people that they think are propagating that
there's something wrong with them. So, yes, I think it
was there deliberately to bring attention to this issue that
we will to send a message. Okay, the left always
loves to do either. If you don't agree with this.

(10:56):
You either keep silent or we're going to make it
pay a price for it. Here to let them know,
we just on another show a few minutes ago. You're
not going to silence our voices. We pray for Charlie.
Charlie is a good friend, and you know we're rallying
and he will pull through this. But just because you
take out one does not mean you're going to intimidate
Fear and the rest of us and we're gonna be silent.

(11:18):
If anything, We're gonna be more aggressive, and we're gonna
make sure you're held accountable. And I got plenty of
ways in a lot of other people that want to
do it. And we're going to make sure we stand
now for the truth and we make sure that we
do not silence ourselves. We become even more vocal, more out,
more forceful than what needs to be done to bring
this country back to sanity once again.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well what to talk about being for us full being
talk about being out there with our voices. Charlie Kirk
an assassination attempt on Charlie Kirk to assassination attempts son
Donald Trump, should people like Sharon Angle Rick Trader Michael
Lettz start to fear, should we are to fear for

(12:01):
our own.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Safety, I think they would low us to do that,
and that is why we've got to accept it for
what it is. We are in a war now. That
means you and I and Ann and the rest of us, Sharon,
we need to all make sure that we take our precautions,
we use common sense. But no, I think quite frankly,
we're on the winning side. We're on the side of righteousness,

(12:22):
on the side of might, and God will provide the
protection that we need as long as we're doing standing
for the truth. And we're going to do that, and
we're not going to be bout and intimidated by anyone.
Our forefathers are not. That's not part of America's makeup,
that's not part of our geneological background. We're fighters.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
We said that, Michael and Blady just said that because
it reminds me of what what Benjamin Franklin said during
the founding of our countries. We either hanged together, surely
we're going to hang separately. And I think there's a
message in there or us at this present time. This
is the Conservative Commanders Radio show. I'm Ricturita to my

(13:03):
coast is Sharon Engel, and our guest is Michael Latz.
And Michael life kind of monopulated this conversation up to down,
and I want to give a Sharon a chance to
get at you. Sharon.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
I am stunned. I think the whole nation is stunned.
That someone would do this to a thirty one year
old man with two little children. It's just incredible. And
that they were able to capture this fellow alive. Do

(13:36):
you find that incredible as well? Michael? It's usually you
know this kind of thing. The guy is he kills
himself almost immediately after he does the crime.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
What's more generating on this particular issue is that the
university and the local area and I reporting that that
person has been released, they do not have a suspected customer.
And even if they did, I suspected what I first
saw that would be a patsy. I mean again, I've
been around the blog log enough. That's something guy you're

(14:10):
looking for. Unfortunately, what I think is what you're going
to see is this is a well orchestrated, syndicated criminal
enterprise by the Deep State. I know people don't want
to use that, but that's yes, that's true. That's just
the way it is. They're trying to do two things.
Silence us I'm not going to work. But if they

(14:31):
can't silence, it's what they really would like to do.
They would like to provoke us into a civil war.
And here's what I would ask us to consider. I'm
not saying that that won't occur, but I'd ask us
to consider. Roughly eighty percent of Americans, I think understand
now begin to wake up what really is going on.
We're not going to allow twenty percent to overturn our constitution,
to overthrow our government and to enslave us. It's just

(14:54):
not going to happen. So I don't think eighty percent
need to be baited by twenty percent. What I do
think we need to get on the stick, utilize the
resources that we had with special forces, with our military
intelligence can drop.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
These people out. Michael, I'm sorry to interrupt. My wife
just come in with the very sad news that it's
announced that Charlie Kirk has died. Okay, thirty one years old, husband,
father of two children. I can remember fourteen years ago
first meeting Charlie Kirk at Seapack when we were on

(15:29):
radio road, Sharon. We interviewed Charlie Kirk several times on
radio at Sea Pack. Charlie Kirk has died. What a
very very sad day, very very sad day.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Very tragic. And you know, well, we will not let
this death go in vain. I can assure you that
we knew that when we elected a new president and
then when we begin to stand for truth. I've said
all along on the air, the you know, the opposition
was not going to go down without a fight. This

(16:03):
is part of the battle. This is part of the war.
There are casualties, but uh, we're going to ultimately prevail.
Were just and it steals in me a little bit
more forced and a little bit more strengthen the backbonee
we say.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
And what you're saying, Michael Letz is that this was
planned and that it was an assassinate assassination. This was
not the man that they have arrested is not the
one this this shooting came from a different place than
anyone is suspecting right now.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
You know, I mean, here's what we need to be
concerned with. And I recognize that when they first showed
the picture of the older gentleman bent over puffed, we
have a.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Suspect, according to I'm sorry to interrupt again. According to
Seeing then headlines, Trump says Conservative act of it's Charlie
kirkis it? And this is apparently through CNN quoting Charlie

(17:11):
excuse me quoting President Donald Trump. Justin, President Donald Trump
says Charlie Kirk is dead. After the conservative activists we
shot in events at Utah Value University early today. The
suspect for the shooting is not in custody, according to

(17:31):
the spokesman from Utah Valley University, despite the schools saying
earlier police did have a suspect. Donald Trump previously praised
her as critical to his gains among young voters voters
in last year's presidential election.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
That is.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Great tragedy.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, Michael Lett's, Michael Let's presidency. Kussay, take care, God
bless and thank you for joining us.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Michael, thank you so much for al majude.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
Only moments earlier, the nightmare played out homeless repeat. Felon
de Carlos Brown Junior was seen sitting behind Serutzka, and
she was seemingly absorbed in her phone on her way
home from work He then allegedly stabbed her multiple times.
After the shocking, unprovoked attack, Serutzka looked up at her
killer with terror in her eyes. She was seen cowering

(18:30):
in fear and covering her face with her hands. About
fifteen seconds later, she fell to the floor while.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Some rushed to her aid.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
Other passengers were seemingly frozen in a state of shock,
as the video reveals multiple people looking confused in the
immediate aftermath of the attack. A man in a gray
hoodie was seen standing up and following Brown as he
splattered blood up and down the train, while a woman
in red glanced over at Zarutzka before grabbing her things
and leaving her seat. On Monday, the FBI announced that

(18:59):
Brown was hit with feed charges on top of the
state murder rap he already faces. He could face the
death penalty if convicted. The career criminal had thirteen prior convictions,
including for armed robbery, and was released without bail and
had a trial pending when he allegedly killed Zurutzka. Meanwhile,
his family said the troubled man never should have been
on the streets and that the system failed him.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
He was a high risk. He was not in his
right mind. He was not safe for society.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
We know what he has been dealing with the last
three years, and now an innocent woman is dead, his sister,
Tracy told The Daily Mail. Tracy's mother told CNN she
tried to get Brown placed in a long term mental
care facility but couldn't because she wasn't his legal guardian.

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Speaker 1 (22:54):
Today.

Speaker 14 (23:01):
Right, mhmm, yeah, you know how many maschars there are

(23:26):
being in America over the last ten years, counting we're
not counting gang violence.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Great counting gang violence great.

Speaker 15 (23:45):
Her name is Aubrey, a student at Utah Valley University.
I understand Aubrey if you can hear us. Tell us
where you were. Were you inside the auditorium at the
time of the shooting.

Speaker 16 (23:56):
Yes, I was. I was gathered around everyone watching him
have conversations with people.

Speaker 15 (24:04):
Well, tell me how things played out from your perspective
and where you were seated in relation to the stage
and where Charlie Kirk was speaking.

Speaker 16 (24:14):
So I was probably about thirty or forty feet away
from him. There's tears in the amphitheater and I was
on the third tier and he was having a discussion
about transgender people and school shootings, and he was commenting
about mass shootings and he was shot in the neck.

Speaker 15 (24:35):
He was in the he was in the process of
talking about mass shootings when they had a bullet And yes,
what did that sound like when when the shot was fired?
And could you tell where it came from?

Speaker 16 (24:48):
It came from behind me. I believe it came from
one of the upper buildings. It wasn't very loud. It
sounded almost like fireworks, so at first I didn't think
it was real, and a lot of the people around
me didn't realized what was going on either.

Speaker 15 (25:01):
You are are part of a generation that has grown
up with school shootings and the knowledge that something like
this could happen at any time. The fact that a
shooting happened where you were today, how do you begin
to process that? It must be so raw for you
right now?

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 16 (25:22):
It was really really scary because the shooting happened and
everyone around me just fell on the ground. And I've
never experienced anything like that before. I've never felt so
unsafe and unsure.

Speaker 15 (25:34):
Yeah, when you were in high school, I mean, did
you have shooting drills in class when you were younger?

Speaker 16 (25:41):
Yes, all through elementary school, middle school, high school. I've
always had shooting drills and lockdown drills.

Speaker 15 (25:46):
Did you think back to those when you were in
this situation today? Did any of those memories come back
to you?

Speaker 16 (25:53):
Not really, just because this was so real and so
different and I was just out on the open right
where it was happening.

Speaker 15 (26:00):
How long did it take you to leave the area
and get to a safe place.

Speaker 16 (26:06):
Probably about a minute. I was laying on the ground
for forty five seconds maybe, and then I just ran
to the nearest building.

Speaker 15 (26:14):
Yeah, and you checked in with your friends, with your family,
you let them know that you're okay.

Speaker 16 (26:18):
Yeah, I was. I was alone at the Charlie Kirk discussion.
But I found a friend from high school and so
that helped call me down a lot. And I called
my mom and made sure I was doing all right.
Have your made sure as okay?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Is she in the room with you?

Speaker 16 (26:34):
Yeah, my mom's with me right now.

Speaker 15 (26:36):
If she wants to join, I'd love to ask her
some questions, yeah, she would love to. Okay, Hi, Mom,
what's your name?

Speaker 6 (26:44):
My name is Carrie.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Carrie?

Speaker 9 (26:46):
When you when did.

Speaker 15 (26:48):
You get word that's something like this happened today when
the shooting happened.

Speaker 11 (26:52):
How did you get word?

Speaker 15 (26:53):
And what was that like for you as a parent.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
The first thing that I heard from Aubrey, it was
a phone call right from Aubrey. I think that she
called me almost immediately after it happened. I could tell
right away that she was very upset, and so I
didn't know exactly what had happened. And this is not
what I expected her to say. I thought maybe she
had been in a car accident or something, and this
is not what I expected. And she just repeated over

(27:21):
and over again.

Speaker 11 (27:22):
Mom, this is so bad.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
This is really really bad.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Sharon. I'm a little bit shocked here, sorry for that.
I remember Charlie Kirk meeting him at Seapack when he
was eighteen years old. I actually met him at the
hotel that we stayed at when we would go to Seapac.
I remember seeing him in the breakfast arey, and at

(27:48):
that time he would have a lot of young people
there with him, and I admired him from what he
was doing a young man like that, and how hard
he was working. Also, it was very I also admired
him for the way he handled himself when he was
in crowds of young people and taking their questions. What

(28:12):
Charlie did. Charlie would go to a university, set up
a table, set up a tent, give a microphone to
anyone who'd want to come up and ask him a question.
He never dodged a question, He never dodged the situation.
And now today we get this terrible, terrible news that

(28:34):
Charlie Kirk has passed at the hands of an assassin.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
I think that Michael Letts I opened the door that
we've not wanted to open. We want to make this
mental illness. We want to make this is less than
what it really is. And when Michael Lett's law enforcement,

(29:08):
someone who knows who has seen this time and time
again says, this is not mental illness. This was planned.
This was carried out, of course, as an assassination. That
they didn't get the shooter. They got somebody they thought

(29:31):
might be the shooter, but the shooter got away. And
when you watch the video of the shooting, you say
that was a kill shot.

Speaker 10 (29:45):
That was not.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
That was not just as somebody pulling a gun and
aiming right from the crowd. Someone would have seen that
and knocked that gun or or you know it, would
that have been that simple to get that kind of
a clean shot off. This was a shot that came prepared,

(30:09):
a prepared shot. That's what I thought when I saw it.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Read conservative activists. Charlie Kirkus died after being shot at
the Compass event in Utah, says President Donald Trump. Kirk
an influential ally of the president, was known for holding
open air debates that campus is that's what he was
doing across the nation. The great and even legendary Charlie

(30:38):
Kirkus dead, writes Donald Trump. Quote no one understood or
had the heart of the youth in the United States
of America better than Charlie the suspect. I was taken
in custody but later released. The university said that shot
was fired from around two hundred feet away, and you know,

(31:01):
you got to think of Butler. That shot was only
one hundred and thirty yards away. This shot was farther away.
One video shows Kirk being asked about mass shootings before
the shot was fired. I mentioned that there is shock
in the White House when the news broke. Kirk was

(31:25):
close to both the President and his family. In January,
he flew to Greenland with Donald Trump Junior. I mean,
this is a horrible day in America, Sharon, horrible day
in America. And Sharon, we talk about liberalism being a
mental disease. This is just more proof of it, Sharon.

(31:48):
This is just more proof of liberalism being a mental disease.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
We're at war. This is a domestic war that we're
at and we have terrorists here. This was terrorism, This
was assassination. This was coming from the left against us.
And just the way that Israel has been fighting a

(32:16):
war against terrorists, we are too. There is not an
army here that is shooting at us. This is terrorists
within that are shooting at anyone who dares to take
a differing opinion. And you know, it's no longer a

(32:36):
war of words. And you say, should we be afraid?
I don't know if we should be afraid, but we
should be prepared.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I think we should be prepared. I think we should
be afraid. I think we should be cautious. I mean,
it's becoming more and more apparent, Sharon, the left is unhinged.
The left is totally unhinged. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder,
and apparently we have millions of people across the country

(33:07):
that are affected from this disorder. We'll have to wrap
up this segment time constraints, so we'll pick it up
after the break. But here's the latest conservative pundit. Charlie
Kirk was shot in the neck during a speaking engagement
at Utah Valley University. The shot was fired at twelve

(33:29):
twenty local time, that would be three twenty East Coast time,
as Kirk was taking a question from a student. Video
shows he immediately collapsed. He was first listed in critical condition,
but now it has been announced that Charlie Kirk has
passed from this injury. The shot was taken from about

(33:53):
two hundred yards away. The initial suspect who was taken
in to custody has been released. That means no one,
no one is in custody, and there's a mad gunman loose. Sharon,
can we can we conclude this segment with the prayer?

Speaker 5 (34:17):
With the prayer I'm most happy to pray. Precious Holy Lord, God,
Our Almighty, You know our broken heartedness of what's just happened.
You understand our grief over losing Charlie Kirk, and you

(34:39):
understand the deeper loss for his wife and his children. Lord.
We pray at this moment that you would somehow bring
comfort to them in their loss, that they would be
able to continue, That you would raise up support from
all areas to come and hold them so that they

(35:05):
won't feel so. There's nothing to say. Lord, we can't
understand this kind of loss, We can only read it.
We also ask for our country, Lord, that you would

(35:27):
take us into consideration. Lord, we know that we have
sinned as a country. We understand what has brought us
to this place. The killing of one told children in
the womb, the the denial of marriage and those things

(35:50):
that you hold. Dear Lord, we know that we have
departed as a country from from the place where our
founders gave us a righteous country. When we grieve over
that lost Lord, but we asked that you would fulfill
your promise to us, which you said, if we sin,

(36:11):
and we recognize that sin, then you said, if my
people who are called by my name will humble themselves
and pray and seek my face and turn from their
wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven forgive their
sin and heal their land. Lord, we ask for this.

(36:34):
We know it's late in the in the time clock
of humanity to be asking what we ask Lord to
forgive our sin, then heal our land in Jesus' name. Amen.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
This is the Conservative Commando's radio show with Sharon Angle.
I'm Rick Trader, God bless Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 15 (40:02):
Commentary coming in from all over the state, all over
the country. Governor Spencer Cox shared a short time ago
on social media, I'm being briefed by law enforcement following
the violence directed to Charlie Kirk during his visit to
Utah Valley University.

Speaker 13 (40:15):
Today.

Speaker 15 (40:16):
We will continue to share updates. Those responsible will be
held fully accountable. Violence has no place in our public life,
and this is the man, the governor.

Speaker 17 (40:27):
I've been in touch with President Trump, with FBI Director
Cash Pttel. We are completely aligned with our state and
federal partners as we work through this case. Now, this
is a dark day for our state. It's a tragic
day for our nation. And I want to be very

(40:49):
clear that this is a political assassination.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
We are.

Speaker 17 (41:00):
Celebrating two hundred and fifty years of the founding of
this great nation, that founding document, the Declaration of Independence,
That this great experiment on which we embark together two
hundred and fifty years ago, that we are endowed by
our creator with certain unalienable rights. The first one of

(41:20):
those is life, and today the life was taken. Charlie
Kirk was first and foremost a husband and a dad.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
To young children. He was also.

Speaker 17 (41:47):
Very much politically involved, and that's why he was here
on campus. Charlie believed in the power of free speech
and debate to shape ideas and to persuade people. Historically,
our university campuses in this nation and here in the

(42:08):
State of Utah have been the place where truth and
ideas are formulated and debated. And that's what he does.
He comes on college campuses and he debates as foundational
to the formation of our country, to our most basic
constitutional rights. And when someone takes the life of a

(42:33):
person because of their ideas or their ideals, then that
very constitutional foundation is threatened. Now we have a person
of interest in custody. The investigation is ongoing, but I
want to make it crystal clear right now to whoever

(42:57):
did this, we will find you, we will try you,
and we will hold you accountable to the furthest extent
of the law. And I just want to remind people
that we still have the death penalty here in the
state of Utah. Our nation is broken.

Speaker 10 (43:27):
We've had.

Speaker 17 (43:30):
Political assassinations recently in Minnesota. We had an attempted assassination
on the governor of Pennsylvania, and we had an attempted
assassination on a presidential candidate and former President of the
United States and now current President of the United States.

(43:55):
Nothing I say can unit us as a country. Nothing
I can say right now can fix what is broken.
Nothing I can say can bring back Charlie Kirk. Our
hearts are broken. We mourn with his wife, his children,
his family, his friends. We mourn as a nation.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
If anyone, in the sound.

Speaker 17 (44:20):
Of my voice celebrated even a little bit at the
news of this shooting, I would beg you to look
in the mirror and to see if you can find
a better angel in there somewhere. I don't care what
his politics are. I care that he was an American.

(44:47):
We desperately need our country. We desperately need leaders in
our country. But more than the leaders, we just need
every single person in this country to think about where
we are and where we want to be, to ask ourselves,

(45:07):
is this it is this what two hundred and fifty
years has wrought on us. I pray that that's not
the case. I pray that those who hated what Charlie
Cooks stood for will put down their social media and

(45:28):
their pens and pray for his family, and that all
of us, all of us will try to find a
way to stop hating our fellow Americans.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commando's radio
show with Sharon Engel, Rick Trader. And when this very
very sad day our guest joining us right now, is
there a good friend Frank for Natio. Frank is the
president and founder of the New York Analysis of Policy
and Government. He's also a fellow radio talk show host,

(46:02):
the American Political Zone that airs here on the aun
TV network. And Frank, number one, thanks for joining us
today on this very sad occasion. And number two, when
I called you to ask you to do a segment
with us, you said to me, before we said anything else,

(46:22):
watch your back. Rick.

Speaker 18 (46:26):
We have had now two assassination attempts against a presidential candidate.
We have seen the assassination of someone who is the
future of the youth movement in the United States. We've
seen on a train in Charlotte a young woman, an immigrant,
stabbed to death by someone who a judge has let

(46:47):
go fourteen separate times for violent crimes. Clearly, there is
a target on the back not only a very conservative activist,
but in the back of most normal citizens. And you
cannot help but look at the totality of what we
are enduring at this point, when normal citizens had their

(47:10):
lives at risk simply for taking public transit, When a
young man I believe he was about thirty one thirty
two years old, is assassinated for simply speaking his mind,
When a former and then future president is the subject
of two assassination attempts, and Rick, let me be very blunt,

(47:34):
this is not just a cultural thing. Because you don't
see this happening against leftist candidates. Do you see this
happening against our candidate? It's against conservative candidates, against Republican
candidates and spokesman. You do not see a Democrat or
a liberal or a leftist spokesperson being jeered out or

(47:56):
chased out of a college campus. Do you see that,
with conservative spokesperson Charlie Kirk being a prime example. We
are looking at a movement now that is seditious, that
is violent, that is becoming very encompassing in the United
States when if the left doesn't get its way on

(48:19):
the streets or on the ballot box, they will be violent.
They will shoot you, they will knife you, they will
beat you. It's a subject that Bredia is not paying
any attention to Indeed, we saw in the Charlotte case
where the media went out of its way to hush
up the details of this horrible incident. You know, we

(48:41):
we are looking at a seditious movement in this country
that is covered up by the media, that is ignored
and foster is ignored in some extent, but fostered on
college campuses. When you see people corrouding around our major
universities shouting anti Semitic slurs, being violent to anyone who

(49:08):
disagrees with them, when chasing a conservative speaker off campus,
this is no longer an isolated incident here or there.
This now must be seen as a coordinated leftist effort
dominated by people prone to violence. When you saw we
had four years of a presidential administration who brought twenty

(49:31):
million people into this country because they didn't like the
people who were here. I don't care if you call
me a racist, because I believe in a replacement theory,
which is what the Democrats did for four years. When
they can't get their way by chasing citizens out of
their neighborhoods, they'll get their way by shooting their spokesman.
We have got to come together as a movement as

(49:53):
a country, no matter what your political beliefs are, and
say enough is enough. We are putting our foot this violence,
this censorship, this hatred from the left, Hasta stop, period.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Rank. I can remember about fourteen years ago being down
at Seapack, the hotel that we usually stay at, and
I told this story a little earlier. There was a
young man in there by name of Charlie Kirk. He
was eighteen years old at the time. He was with
a group of young people that he busted into the

(50:30):
Seapack rally. And at that time, Charlie Kirk was a
real nobody. I mean, no one knew who Charlie Kirk was.
But sure, surely, meeting this young man, you were impressed
by his knowledge, You were impressed by his leadership, You

(50:52):
were impressed by his commitment to the United States of
America and conservative values. You know, Frank Fort quite some time,
I've said this, you're in the conservative commandos and elsewhere,
that liberalism is a mental disease. It is a true
mental disease, and we're seeing more and more and more

(51:16):
evidence of it all the time. You talk about the
young girl who was killed in Charlotte, you talk about
Charlie Kirk. You listen to the left and the left
will say about the incident and Charlotte, Oh, they don't,
they don't want him even talk about it. It was
not reported on the mainstream media. Not one second was

(51:38):
reported on the mainstream media. And when they're finally forced
to talk about it, what they say is, we can't politicize,
We cannot politicize the tragedy like that. The moment was
reported that Charlie Kirk was shot, the left was out
there saying, well, now they got one of their own,

(52:00):
maybe now they'll get rid of the guns. If that's
not making political Frank Ernutio, I don't know what is
Frank am I being When I say that this is
liberalism is a mental disease? Am I over Am I overreaching?

Speaker 18 (52:22):
When you look for the fact that for the past
one hundred and twenty five years or so, socialism has
been tried in just about every inhabited continent and it's
failed absolutely every single time, and yet the left wants
to bring socialism to the United States. I believe it

(52:44):
was Einstein who said doing the same thing over and
over again and expecting a different result is insanity and
that's exactly what we're facing. So no, Rick, I don't
think you're wrong. I think you have people who are
ignoring history, ignore facts, ignore reality, And when someone deigns

(53:05):
to bring light to their misconceptions, their reply isn't to
argue with it. Their reply is to either censor or shoot.
And that's exactly the situation that we are in today.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
This is the Conservative Commander's Radio Show with Sharon Angle.
I'm Rick Trader. Our guest sentiment is Frank Vernuccio. President
Donald Trump announced that Charlie Kirk is dead after the
Conservative Act of This was shot an event at Utah
Valley University earlier today. The suspect in the shooting is

(53:43):
not yet in custody, according to a spokesman from that university,
despite the schools saying earlier police did have someone in custody. Frank,
we've got a gunman at loose. The gunman is still
at loose.

Speaker 18 (54:05):
You know, I'm not so much concerned with one gunman
as I'm concerned about an entire movement that thinks that
it's okay to shoot people who disagree with you, that
it's okay to chase hundreds of people off college campuses
because they disagree with them, that think it's okay to
engage in acts of violence and hate from one end

(54:25):
of this country to another, that thinks it's okay that
a brain dead president in an administration ruled by usurpers,
and frankly, people who have engaged in the coup, it's
okay to ignore that it's okay because hey, they're on
our side. They'll say that's okay. That's what disturbs them
even more than one gunman.

Speaker 13 (54:47):
Man.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
Go to your your comment, frank On, it's coordinated. We
had Michael Lettz on earlier and he said it was planned.
And I look to see what I could find on
the news. First number one hit with Google was Wikipedia,
and they already had Charlie Kirk shot in dead less

(55:08):
than an hour after the incident. Talk to me about this.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
This by the way, this was before this was before
it was announced that he had died. And you know,
one of the things that Sharon and I talked with
Michael Leutz about was the last question that Charlie Kirk
was asked before he was shot was about taking guns

(55:33):
away from transvestites. He was answering that question when he
was shot, right do you think that's mere coincidence?

Speaker 18 (55:44):
You know, it was fascinating, is that. Look, when an
adult wants to do with their own private life is
their business. But we're now seeing a movement, a transvestite movement,
that seems becoming more and more militant. One of the
things the press refuses to report is how many of
these shooting insidence are the work of transvestites. Now, I'm
not saying every transvestite is an assassin or a shootest,

(56:06):
but perhaps there is a subculture within that movement that
is violent and that is expressing its violence very astutely.
And of course the public's not going to be much
aware of that because the press manages to censor those facts.
You know, God forbid, if a normal, straight white male
engaged in a crime, it's going to be headline news

(56:28):
the next day all over the place. But if you
are not a straight white male, if you are a consider,
if you are you know, a leftist, then it's going
to be brushed under the rug. And that's becoming more
a problem. When you can't discuss the problem, you can't
begin to address it or solve it. But that's the

(56:48):
situation the media, for the most part has put us in.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Alex McKinley, identified as a trans mail, was involved twenty
nineteen shooting at Stem School Highlands Ranch in Denver, Colorado.
Audrey Hill identified as a trans mail authorities and was
the perpetrator of the twenty twenty three shooting at the

(57:17):
Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee. Robin Westman, identified as a
trans woman, was the SEC suspect in the August twenty
twenty five shooting at Immaculation Catholic School in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
It's just the very start of the list.

Speaker 18 (57:37):
Yeah, Our candidates are shot at, our spokespersons, spokespeople are
being assassinated, Our students are discriminated against on campuses. You
go even further back, let's go to the Obama administration.
You might recall Rick and that if you were a
conservative organization that was going for your five oh one

(57:58):
C three, your application was lost. If you're a left
wing organization, you got your grant almost immediately. You're you're
your grant of your five oh one C three. Is
there any further indication that we need that the right,
that the conservative movement is being oppressed in this country?

(58:19):
Sometimes Bureautic bureaucratically and sometimes violently.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Back array. A civil war is the left is the
left fighting as civil war against the right, and the
right just doesn't know it yet. Are you using the
word civil war? Is that too strong? Is that too

(58:47):
strong a term?

Speaker 18 (58:50):
No, because I think we are at something that happened
before Fort Sumter. You might recall the concept of southern
states nullifying or attempting to nullify federal laws. Well, look
what's going on in places like California and in all
the blue cities across the country. We have immigration laws
in this country, we have border laws. They nullified those laws,

(59:14):
they ignored those laws, and that's a symbol of perhaps rebellion, secession,
civil war, whatever you want to call it. But we
don't recognize it as such yet because the media won't
talk about it.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
Well, it's a very small segment too. To be able
to declare war, you have to have you have to
have an army, not a bunch of terrorists. And I
feel like we're being victimized by terror rather than by
an all out overt action. When you say this is planned,

(59:53):
it's coordinated, it's covert. As you said, it's been covered
by the media. They're not willing to bring it out
in the open, and it's terrorism. They're trying to make
sure that our leaders are taken out and that we're afraid.

(01:00:13):
Michael Let's when he came on, you came, you said,
watch your back. Michael Lets said he needed to have
a vest on and a bulletproof vest on. How are
we supposed to react to this? They would like to

(01:00:33):
have violence in the streets. I think I think that
would be there. The thing that they want us to
go to is to declare to civil war, grab our
guns and go out and shoot every transgender person we see,
every gay person we see. I mean, I don't know
exactly who they think we should target that. It seems

(01:00:57):
like they want us to react to this violence.

Speaker 18 (01:01:04):
Great point shared the way we should react, the way
as a nation we should react. Let's enforce the laws
we already have on the books. We have border laws. Well,
finally President Trump is enforcing those. When you have violence
in the streets, put those sons of bitches in jail.
When they take over college campuses and intimidate other students,

(01:01:26):
put them in jail, expel them from the campus. Enforce
the laws.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
You already have.

Speaker 18 (01:01:31):
You don't need to have new laws. You don't have
to have draconian measures. You have laws on the books
enforce them. What we have done now is established an
environment where a certain segment of the population is immune
from being from having to follow those laws. We see

(01:01:52):
this in many other politicians as well. You know, it
seems that there's a bevy of Democrat left wing politicians
who simply don't think they have to be honest on
their mortgage applications. We see Democratic politicians who simply believe
it's okay to lie incessantly in public and provoke the public.

(01:02:14):
You know, when you have senators like the gentleman from
California using the term gentleman very loosely, who lied for
four years about Donald Trump and a Russian collusion. Not
only did he do it on the halls of this
Congress where he's immune, but he did it in press
comforts after prent comforts. He lied, he perjured, he slandered,

(01:02:37):
and he gets away with it. In fact, he got
a promotion. He went from Congress to the United States Senate.
Adam Schiff one of the most despicable people ever to
walk upon the face of the earth, and he's being
rewarded for his despicableness. Enforce the laws we already have.
And Adam Schiff when he lies in a public in
a press conference, when he perjurees himself and tests simony,

(01:03:00):
the man belongs in jail, but he gets away with
it because for a certain segment of the population, leftist activists,
the laws don't seem to be enforced at all.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
You used another word that I want you to kind
of dig deeper with, and that is sedition. We have
a law against sedition, so kind of expand upon that
idea of what we're dealing with here. When you said
this is a seditious act.

Speaker 18 (01:03:30):
When you look at what President Trump had to go
through in his first term, when elements of the government
intentionally attempted to destroy his administration, when they attempted to
overturn the people's choice in that election, that sedition. When
you have someone like the former chief of staff who

(01:03:52):
said he would warn China of any Trump actions, that's
a court martial offense. Why the hell wasn't he court martialed?
Why is he still walking free? When you have people
like Colonel Vindermann who will say things like, well, the
president should be impeached because he didn't listen to what
I told him. Starting to get the picture, and it's

(01:04:18):
one segment of the population that is immune from the law.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
That's got to stop.

Speaker 18 (01:04:22):
Nothing traycdian, nothing new, nothing unusual. Just follow the laws
that are on the books.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Another thing that I wanted to talk to you a
little bit about is an end to our audience. We've
seen these kids flooding into our states during the twenty
twenty four election with TP Action turning Point Action. This
is Charlie Kirk's grassroots group, and these are young guys

(01:04:53):
that he's been hiring and they've been fired up. They've
been coming to every meeting that I'm at. I'm I'm
politically active here in my state. They show up at
Central Committee meetings for Republicans, they show up for Republican
women's luncheons, they show up for If you have a

(01:05:16):
meet and greet at your home, they'll show up. If
you have a walk the neighborhood's gathering, they show up there.
They are there, they are gathering more to come in.
They're they're using a kind of a interesting app to

(01:05:39):
bring people out who haven't ever voted before. I know
this must be a devastating blow to that group. And
having met those fired up young adults, knowing that they
have been personally attacked by the people within their country,

(01:06:04):
say to that, I didn't have to deal with kat
when I was growing up in America. I didn't have
to deal with that running for office.

Speaker 18 (01:06:13):
What message have we given? What message?

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
What do we say to them?

Speaker 18 (01:06:17):
Consider the message that our young people have in college.
They're basically told be quiet or get out. Yes, if
they become active in politics, they have targets on their backs.
They're taught from kindergarten through college lies and deceit about America.
They're given textbooks that are nothing but slander written by communists.

(01:06:41):
You know, I admired young conservative activists because the hurdles
they have had to overcome are extraordinary, extraordinary, And I
think that I hope that is a legacy of Charlie Kirk,
that rather than discourage anyone, that they realize how great

(01:07:04):
and how monstrous the task is before them. I hope
they are invigorated. I hope the spirit of Charlie Kirk
invigorates and emboldens those young people to do what they
have to do to save this country. From the lawlessness,
from the perniciousness of what we're seeing in our nation.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
I hope you're right, Frank, I hope that's exactly what
this does, is that they see that the hour is late,
that we are on the edge of losing our country.
That that's the reason that we stood so strongly, and
why Charlie Kirk was such an advocate for President Donald Trump.

(01:07:47):
It's because of this. This is what we're fighting against.
So if you were going to give a call to action,
Frank Ernuccio, what would that call be.

Speaker 18 (01:08:01):
You have to save our country. It is in serious danger,
or danger that most people don't even comprehend. You know,
President Reagan said we always one generation away from from
losing our freedom. Well, when you're shot at, when you're
run out for college campuses, when you are ignored, when
you're censored, how much closer can you get? This is

(01:08:24):
the moment of freedom. We are the heirs of the
people who rebelled against the British monarch. We are the
heirs of the people who save this world from Nazism, fascism,
and communism. It's our turn now to step up and
do what has to be done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
President Trump has ordered all flags to be flung half staff.
A little bit about turning Point. Charlie Kirk started Turning
Point us say, at the age of eighteen, using his
parents' garage in Illinois as its headquarters. A gifted communicator

(01:09:02):
with a passion for Donald Trump's style of conservative politics,
he grew up. He grew the group into a massive
nationwide network, comprising more than one thousand high school and
college chapters. Kirk with their leaders, the group promoted policies

(01:09:24):
like free market capitalism and limited government, and you get
shot for that.

Speaker 18 (01:09:30):
He also an interesting of contrast, So I just wanted
to throw this in, sort of interrupting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
With that's all right.

Speaker 18 (01:09:36):
When you're on the left and you start a little organization,
you'll get flooded with stolen taxpayer dollars through devices like NGO,
pass throughs like USAID, all sorts of things. That's what
happens on the left. When you're on the right, you

(01:09:58):
get discriminated against them, you get shot at. Hell of
a contrast, isn't it It is?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Y'all? Suit you also, Dovin had first on the cultural
war were battles and specifically hot button issues of race
and gender. America first spreads this message throughout provocated posters, videos,
and high tech conferences. Charlie Kirk was truly truly a

(01:10:30):
leader when I met him at eighteen years old, When
he was eighteen years old at that little hotel in Oxenhill,
Merlin in the breakfast room. I had no idea what
a giant of a man Charlie Kirk would become. And
unfortunately it's cost the life of a father and of

(01:10:56):
a husband and a great leader and communicator that was
Charlie Kirk. What we know up to now is he
was shot a little after twelve o'clock. He was doing
a college rally in Utah. The shooter has not been

(01:11:18):
found as of this point. Frank, do you have any idea,
any feelings as far as what kind of a man hunt,
what kind of an investigation will be taking place from
this point. I always thought it was miraculous that they
were able to capture Lee Harvey Oswalt so quickly. I

(01:11:42):
thought it was miraculous that we what was his name,
Ruth Robert Ruth Robert Robin, the fellow who was set
in a sniper's lair to assassinate President Trump in Florida
during the summer. I thought it was amazing that they
caught that man so soon. Same thing with the the

(01:12:04):
Oklahoma bomber. You know, I was shocked how fast they
caught that guy. What kind of man hunt do you
think is taking place right now, Frank.

Speaker 18 (01:12:16):
Well, hopefully it's extremely intense. But I don't have any
inside information on it, but hopefully it's an intense man hunt.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
Well, Cash Btel has already said he's sending agents right now.
They're on their way, so I know that this won't
be taken lightly as far as the intensity of the
man hunt. But when we when we talk about these

(01:12:45):
other man hunts, Rick, you know, I hate to I
hate to be so cynical, but was it real or
was it just what we had happened in Utah? Today?
They grabbed a guy, said we got it, and that
was supposed to be the end of it, but they
really didn't have him. And you know, when we look

(01:13:08):
at the CIA, the uncovering of those documents about the
JFK and RFK assassinations and now and we find out
that there was, as Frank said, a plan, a coordinated effort,

(01:13:32):
that those things just didn't happen because someone went crazy
there was something else, very diabolical behind that. And as
Frank said, we can pin it all on the left.
There is no doubt about where this is coming from
or who's doing this. It's just will we get another

(01:13:54):
scapegoat or will we get the one who really plotted, planned,
who ordinated this, and bring them to justice. What will
we get at the end of our manhunt?

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
It's hard to tell. Remember, I remember very well with
Lee Harvey Oswald said that he was a patsy, he
was a passy. And for all these years, since nineteen
sixty three, the great debate is did Lee Harvey Oswald
act alone? Okay, we haven't gotten any answers from the

(01:14:29):
butler of Pennsylvania shooting, no answers from that yet. Okay,
where is that investigation? You can go back to Sir Hans,
Sir hand the attempt on Donald on Ronald Reagan's life.
Do we have we really gotten the answers from any

(01:14:50):
of these assassination attempts? I don't know, I really don't know.
And Frank, it seems like we right think, right thinking
Americans are on attack from the left, from the liberals.
We're on the attack from the college campuses, the Muslims

(01:15:13):
and the Muslims. It seems like we're starting to get
surrounded by our enemies. And our enemies don't like They
don't like our constitution, they don't like.

Speaker 18 (01:15:27):
We Now even have elected officials in Congress, several of
them were saying the first loyalty is not to America.
One says it's to Guatemala. Another says it's to Somalia.
You know, it's becoming more and more difficult to find
your footing right now. When you even have elected officials

(01:15:49):
who don't want to pledge their loyalty to America, when
you have judges who don't want to pledge their loyalty
to upholding the law, it's more and more frightening.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Right for Neuciow, we want to thank you for joining
us here in this one. The Conservative commandos on a
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are also going to remember nine ten when a great leader,
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Speaker 19 (01:16:37):
Break environment in which a shooting like this happens.

Speaker 20 (01:16:44):
Yeah, and again emphasize what you just emphasized. We don't
know any of the bull details of this that we
don't know if this was a supporter shooting their gun
off in celebration or so. We have no idea about this.

Speaker 19 (01:16:54):
By the way, our affiliate in Utah and the aftermath
of the shooting, you could see people running away pretty quickly,
as you would imagine they would do at gunshots. The
FBI Director Cash Patel has weighed.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
In on this.

Speaker 19 (01:17:10):
He just tweeted the following We're closely monitoring reports of
the tragic shooting involving Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University.

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Our thoughts are with Charlie, his.

Speaker 19 (01:17:19):
Loved ones, and everyone affected. Agents will be on the
scene quickly, and the FBI stands in full support of
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Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Were you in the crowd when everything happened. I was.

Speaker 25 (01:22:16):
I was fifteen feet away and it was really hard
to witness. He he had just finished talking about his
first subject, was talking about, you know, the Mormon faith,
and somebody had come up that converted from atheism to
the Mormon faith. You talked about how much he loves us,
and you know, it feels like they just have different

(01:22:36):
opinions and that's okay, but he loves our Mormon faith
and he loves everybody. And it was just a lot
of love and joining kindness, you know. And then the
next person came up, and it almost it almost felt
like a cue to me because they talked about transgender
gun violence. And then as the guy said shooting or
shooters or something like that, you just hear the gunshot
and I'm sorry. You see his neck just like open up,

(01:23:02):
and there's just like so much blood that just came out.
It was horrible and all I felt was like everybody
bringing me down to the ground, and I was sorry.
I just all I hear is screaming and I see
people running, and I'm like, it's not safe to run,
it's not safe to get up. It's not And all
I'm saying is please God, Please God, Please God, because

(01:23:23):
I don't want to die. I don't want anybody else
to die. And I think I just saw a guy die,
you know. And we ended up getting up and about
twenty thirty seconds later and running into the building, and
they took all the witnesses that were pretty close to
me and about twelve other people and we sat there
for about an hour and we're all just crying and
seeing people posting the videos on social media. It was horrifying.

(01:23:45):
It was horrible. I looked to see if there was
a shooter. I didn't see anything. All I could see
was Charlie was taken right away, and we were just
still on the ground, freaking out, not knowing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
What to do.

Speaker 25 (01:23:57):
What was that like, I mean, I don't think Charlie
is necessarily contentious. I think he's very good at saying
his points and being very blatant if you're interrupting him.
There was only maybe I would say, sixty sixty people
on this balcony that couldn't even see Charlie. They were
like on a balcony above like his tent, that were
all saying, you know, chanting f Charlie Kirk things like that,

(01:24:18):
and had signs saying some pretty upsetting things about him.
That was it. Everybody else was drowning out the sound
and saying how grateful we are that he took the
time to see us and talk to us. We had questions,
we wanted to talk to him, and instead somebody selfish
didn't care. Yeah, And to be clear, if I'm gonna

(01:24:39):
be honest, I had friends coming in asking if they
needed tickets, and I said, they didn't even check for
my ticket, which I did get a ticket. They did
not pat us down. I feel like I maybe saw
three or four police officers in this whole environment of
hundreds of people, I would guess, which I thought was
a little odd. But at the same time I thought, well,
you know, it's Utah, which is ignorant thought to think.

(01:25:01):
But there was not much security precautions taken. There was none, right, But.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Did it sound like the shot came from behind.

Speaker 25 (01:25:09):
Yes, it sounded exactly from behind us. And that's why
I was so worried. And I looked, but I couldn't
find anything. But you could also see obviously from the
way that the blood just it definitely goes from mind
so or in front of him, I would say, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
But and welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos.
I'm your trader, my cos is Sharon Engel and Charlie Kirk,
the mega activists who built a conservative student group into
America first. One of the most influential forces in American
politics died today in Utah, the victim of an assassin's bullet.

(01:25:52):
And we like to thank our next guests for joining us.
And it's Reverend James Hardin. He's a CEO of Compass
Care Pregnancy Surfaces Services. He lives outside of Rochester, New York,
and he's also been a victim, a victim of crime

(01:26:12):
perpetrated by the left. Reverend Harden, we appreciate you joining
us on this what I believe is a horrible, horrible day.
But thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 11 (01:26:24):
It is a horrible day. Thanks for having me on. Rick,
I'm always honored to be with you. But under these circumstances,
I it is is a sad day. I I it's
with very deep sadness. When you called me a few
minutes ago, I you know, I asked you how you're doing,
and you said not well? And I said me either,

(01:26:45):
And I knew instantly, of course what you what? What
what you were going to talk about? And you know,
I have a I'm sad, but I'm also very angry.
And the Bible says it's okay to be angry. Right,
There is such a thing as righteous anger. God has
righteous anger. We are made in His image, and I

(01:27:06):
and I believe that when when we're faced with such injustice,
that it's okay to be angry. It's just that we
should we shouldn't let this, you know, we shouldn't cause
our anger to to to cause us to sin like this.
This barbaric assassin, he, you know, whoever it was, he
was certainly cowardly. But my, my, my condolences, my my

(01:27:30):
deepest sympathy and respect go to his wife and his
two young kids, Erica and their and their children. They're
going to be marred forever by this act of barbarism.
Perpetrated by this, you know, likely a Marxist and and
but and quite quite frankly, we're we're all, as Americans
are going to be marred. I mean, anybody who loves

(01:27:51):
civilized order should be very concerned at this moment because
this is a bald faced act of domestic terror. This is,
as Benjamin Ninyaho would say, a demonstration of the forces
of barbarism against the forces of civilized And this is
a it's it's you know, I looked at h when

(01:28:13):
it first when it first happened, instantly, instantly I saw
Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom and Chuck
Schumer and all the other mascots for for the political
left controlling the Democrat Party saying the exact same soulless, stupid,

(01:28:36):
heartless thing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:28:38):
Whoever told them they should say this talking point over
and over and over again was an idiot? But what
should find out who it is, because they're probably at
the heart of a lot of this, and they they
all said the same soulless thing. You know, there's no
place for political violence in America or some iteration some
some some immediate iteration thereof and uh, and it makes

(01:29:00):
me think, well, gosh, they recognize and they're attempting to
distance themselves from the obvious domestic terrorism and the ideology
that drives it. And by the way, the ideology that
drives the domestic terror that assassinated our friend Charlie Kirk
is the same political ideology espoused by Chuck Schumer and

(01:29:21):
Kamala Harris and Senator Horando out of Hawaii and you
name it. The Senator Horando out of Hawaii three years ago,
almost to the day, three years ago, almost the day
September fourteenth, she came out on the floor of the
Senate and issued a call to arms over the abortion
band debate. Do you remember this. It was absolutely I

(01:29:45):
couldn't believe why there wasn't some sort of sanction, some
sort of censoring of this raised woman who was actually
holding political office. You know, we are we need to
be careful here, We need to be for those Americans
not to view the assassination of Charlie Kirk as an
isolated incident. And the reason is because it's just another

(01:30:08):
incident in a long line of violent domestic terror attacks
actually promise by Marxist Antifa. And I say that let
me let me just quote something to you, okay, this instantly,
of course I live this. We've been attacked and threatened
by by Marxist Antifa for ever since the since before
the Dobs case came out, before when it was, when

(01:30:30):
it was released, when it was leaked illegally, by the way,
and we still know who did it. They said this.
They took responsibility for the fire bombing of our one
of our medical officers in Buffalo, which injured two firefighters,
caused a half a million dollars of damage. They said
this in their communicat when they took responsibility for the
fire bombing, they said, we fight not just for abortion rights,
but for transliberation, ecological harmony, decolonization, the destruction of white

(01:30:55):
supremacy and capitalism, and the uprooting of the entire global civilization.
We will hunt you down and make your lives a
living hell. So far, it's just been pregnancy centers. That's
that was us. But tomorrow it might be your cars,
it might be your homes. Think the governor of Pennsylvania, okay,
and and even your lives.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Think.

Speaker 11 (01:31:15):
The assassination attempted a Trump, the assassination of Charlie Kirky.
They were actively engaging in domestic terror of violence to
shut down the rule of law based on the on
the Jerdaeo Christian ethic. That's what they're doing. That's their
stated intent. And so this is not a mere coincidence,
uh that that it is not a mere coincidence that

(01:31:35):
Charlie was was was shot when he was talking about
transgender violence. Rick, That's what he was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
We were discussing this on the show. And I can't
see how that is mere coincidence that he was shot
when he was taking your question and he was asked
should rifles be taken away from trance individuals? And and
while he was answering that question, he that's when he
was shot. Yes, tell me, tell me that was just

(01:32:04):
mere coincidence. And Sharon and I were just watching a
piece of video and in the piece of video, the
speaker on the house floor was asking for a moment
of silence and prayer, and the Democrats were yelling no, no, no, no, no,

(01:32:26):
these were This was coming from the Democrat leaders of
our country.

Speaker 11 (01:32:32):
Yeah, it is. What's reprehensible here is the ideology that's
being promoted by these Marxists that have somehow insinuated themselves
into the upper echelons of government, which is one of
the things that President Trump has been fighting at the
at the federal level with respect to the dj the DHS,

(01:32:54):
the Department of Defense, I mean, you name it. The
Marxists have a long term plan to undermine the rule
of law in America because they know that if they can,
if they can get America to fall, uh, the rest
of the of the nation state system, the global nation
and state system will fall with it. And guess what.

(01:33:14):
One of the reasons why Charlie Kirk was uh targeted,
one of the reasons why pregnancy centers are targeted is
because we espouse the very uh, the very core values
that make for a civilized order based on a constitutional
rule of law. And it is not acceptable for people

(01:33:35):
to to run and hold office in a democratic, rule
of law society who espouse an ideology that undermines it,
that literally works against it. It is not acceptable. And
so you know, when you've got these these politicians all
coming out in heart in in in three part harmony
saying the exact same soulless thing. Oh well, political violence

(01:33:58):
is no place and in American democracy. Look, they don't
mean it political violence. Well, if there's any other kind
of violence, that's fine. I mean, they never denounced the
violence against pregnancy centers. We've never found out who bombed us.
You know, if the violence is associated with an attack
on a person or group of people that are politically disfavored,

(01:34:21):
they'll turn a blind eye all day long. In fact,
they'll join in it. They look, we've got Letitia James
that filed a lossit against us. She's the Attorney General
of New York. She's getting basically bring all the resources
of the largest attorney's general's office in the nation against
peaceful pro life Christians, insisting that we're committing fraud against
women by telling them the truth that chemical abortion is

(01:34:42):
dangerous and sends one and ten women to the emergency room,
and we have the ability to reverse it. She wants
to shut us down. That's exactly what James revenge. That
was exactly their goal is to shut us down. And
that's why they issued death threats. That's why they fire
bombed us, and that's why they killed Charlie Kirk. And
I'm telling you it needs to stop, and and and
and here's the thing I was looking at the the

(01:35:03):
the unfortunate events as they had folded in horror certainly,
but I I was, I was, I was, I was
amazed at the what was what Charlie Kirk represented in
that moment when he was being shot. And Charlie Kirk,
I am certain, has had many death threats. We've had
death threats.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:35:20):
And if we've had death threats, I know Charlie's had
death threats. So you know, Charlie's behind He's a friend
of mine, he was. I was on his shows a
couple of times. He said he's behind us one hundred percent.
He was one of the first ones out front, uh,
letting people know what happened to us when we were
firebombing and when we were attacked. And uh, you know,
he is a picture of courage, That's what he was
sitting there. And when when he puts himself on the

(01:35:43):
stage and is willing to talk about controversy issues in
a way that is respectful and profound, Uh, you know,
he puts himself in the crosshairs. And every pastor does
that every Sunday, and and and what you and I
are doing right now is doing doing that. We know
that there are people that have no ability, no mental

(01:36:05):
ability to combat the reasonable arguments that we make for
what it means to be human and the role of
government and human affairs. They just can't stand it. And
so there their only recourse is violence. And so this
is a this is a monster that America has created
and allowed to grow in and amongst us. These are

(01:36:27):
these are uh, you know, weeds and tears growing up
among the weeds of American democracy. And somehow or other,
we need to recognize that as being that that Marxist, communist,
atheistic ideology has been promoted, paid for, and protected by
these Democrat politicians who have funded it through the Education Department,
through USA i D, through through all these these other

(01:36:50):
efforts all throughout America, from the federal government to blue
state governments like New York and California. And it needs
to stop. People need to right recognize that it's emanating
from the very people that instantly attempted to distance themselves
from the domestic terrorism. It is domestic terrorism planning, a
simple cash matel Director of the FBI needs to say so,

(01:37:10):
and they need to connect it to all the other
domestic terrorist violence that has been perpetrated over the last
three years. Against Christians. And by the way, Charlie Kirk
is a is a devout Christian. And I'm using present
tense language because as Christians, we know that our relationship
with Charlie has not ended. It's just changed for a

(01:37:30):
little while.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
He has Reverend, he's with the Lord. Reverend. I asked
you to come on today because I need something. I
need a little solace, I need a little reasoning. Reverend.
If you ask me who Rick Trader is, I would
tell you I'm a Christian, I'm a patriot. I love

(01:37:55):
my country. But right now I'm feeling very, very angry,
and I don't feel very Christian like now you said earlier,
Let's not let these acts drive us in the sin.
I'm very angry right now. I really am. I'm a
work in progress as far as being a Christian and

(01:38:17):
being a good person. But I am mad. I am
mad to see what's not just happening to Charlie Kirk,
but to our country. Sixty five years ago, I lost
my father. It was due to a heart attack. It
wasn't anything as horrible as this. But Charlie Kirk had

(01:38:38):
little children, and those little children are going to live
their lives without their father, and I know what that's like.
I am angry for his family, I'm angry for his wife,
I'm angry for his children. I'm asking questions like why
does good things happen to good people? And you say

(01:39:02):
to me, Rick, we don't want to let their actions
drive us to sin. You've been the victim of this
radical leftism. And I say, I've been saying all day,
and I've been saying all the time on the Conservative
commanders that liberalism is a mental disease. I feel that

(01:39:23):
we as conservatives, we as patriots, we are under attack,
literally and figuratively, under attack, Yeah, physically and intellectually. And
I'm mad. I'm like the guy that was on network.

(01:39:44):
I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to
take it anymore. Reverend James Hart, please walk me back
from this cliff.

Speaker 11 (01:39:56):
You know, from our advantage point, our nation was robbed
today of a hero by a cowardly domestic terrorist. And
I think the best way that we can honor his
memory his legacy is to continue to stand with courage

(01:40:18):
in the face of death and even be willing to
die ourselves for what is right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
It is.

Speaker 11 (01:40:25):
It's one thing to suffer for doing what is wrong.
And the and the and the and the man who
or woman who shot Charlie will suffer for doing what
is wrong. God helped them because they're going to be
facing their creator one day.

Speaker 25 (01:40:39):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:40:40):
And you know, no sin will go unpunished, No sin
will go unpunished. And either we will fall at the
foot of the cross and pray to God for his
forgiveness through Christ, or we will have to face our
maker and pay the penalty for all of our sins
ourselves forever. And I'm saying this because God is the

(01:41:00):
one who plants the ear. Does he not hear? God
is the one who plants the eye? Does he not
see who shot Charlie Kirk? And the answer is yes
he does. And it's just a matter of time before
he's brought And by the way, the to just justice,
the justice system. The sword, as as the Bible calls it,

(01:41:20):
is given to government. The sword is given to government.
And by the way, the sword is referring to the
ability to take life uh for the for uh. You know,
because people do the wrong thing, when people engage in
evil and evil acts, the government bears the sword to
bring punishment upon those people. But Ultimately, justice is performed

(01:41:42):
by God Almighty, and I and I and I think that, look,
we we have the best thing that we can do
to to demonstrate our our our our love for the
core values that made America great, is to continue to
represent those core values that in the in the the
infinite value of humanity, in the dignity of humanity. By

(01:42:02):
standing courageously in the face of this evil and speaking
out against it courageously, we will not run in fear,
we will not panic, We will stand strong, and we
will not stop. I don't care how many times we
get sued. I don't care how many times people issue
death threats. I don't care how many times you get firebombs.

(01:42:23):
I don't care. I don't care. What is right is
right and always will be right, and what is wrong
is wrong and always will be wrong. There is a
God in heaven, and he sees and he sees it all,
and he is exacting, and he is just, but he's
also loving. If you submit to him now, but at
some point in the future, if you refuse to submit
to him, God help you, because you're gonna be brought

(01:42:43):
kicking and screaming to the to the to the throne
room of God, and he's going to call you to
account for every single one of these sins that you've committed,
not just against Charlie Kirk, but against the against against
the country, against the nature, against yourself, against against the
cosmos right. I mean, look, people, there are people out there,
transgender people that are re using to acknowledge basic nature right.

(01:43:04):
They are an absolute rebellion against the moral law, but
they're also an absolute rebellion against the natural law. These
people are outside their mind and where where where We're
trying to coddle them and applaud them and say, you know,
your fiction is reality. How is that helping anybody? It's
killing people, not just them, it is killing them, but
it's killing other people because they're so out outside their mind,

(01:43:24):
they're so crazed. And these are transgender communist Marxists. Uh, look,
the these these these Marxists, these antifa Marxists. This is
a global problem and their goal is to the way
they the way they operate is by fourth generation warfare.
They piggyback off of these left wing causes and attempt

(01:43:45):
to recruit these weak minded, disaffected individuals like the transgender people,
like the pro abortion people like uh, you know, the
the the eco terrorist type people, these the environmentalists, these
are all the same people. And I've been saying this
for years now, three years. Fourth ground racial warfare tactics
are being deployed in America today. And if I were
to say that in in a in a in a

(01:44:05):
room full of of of of you know, war chiefs,
they would all nod their heads the Department of Defense
and say, yep, yep, you're you're right on gym, that's
exactly what's happening. But you know, how are they going
to explain that you can't bring force on force to
to an embedded enemy and in a and and and
you know in in the United States of America you can't.

(01:44:26):
It's what do you do? You just have to beef
up the Department of want Security. You got to beef
up uh Ice, you got to beef up the FBI,
I got it, and all these things. But these people
and these organizations have been embedded themselves, they've been the
DEI hiring practices have all. But you know, guaranteed that
the rank and file hold to these these insane communist

(01:44:49):
Marxist ideologies, and so of course they're not going to
be interested in in in actually uh you know, the
rule of law, or protecting all people equally under under law.
Uh So, so we've got got a long road ahead
of us.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
And this is just an example.

Speaker 11 (01:45:03):
Charlie's unfortunate assassination today is just another example of how
far this comfort this country has gone. And we have
to heed the words of Charlie Kirk. We have to
get back to the principles that build this country. He's
a conservative, he espoused conservative principles. But we must remember
that conservative principles that we seek to conserve are the
ones that are those very principles that allow a civilization

(01:45:25):
to continue into the future for our children and grandchildren.
And we're tempting through through these these these progressive liberal
Democrat Marxist ideologies, to re imagine humanity, to rethink uh
you know, the rule of law, to reinterpret the constitution.
All these things are designed to undermine, uh, humanity, and

(01:45:48):
to and to give the power, more and more power
to a very small elite group of people. This is
called Nietzscheism. This is this is uh, this is sheer
will to power. If you can eliminate God from the equation,
then you can Uh, you can eliminate the basic relationships
that take priority over government. My relationship with my wife
takes priority of government. My relationship with my God takes

(01:46:11):
priority over government. My relationship with my children takes priority
over government. My job is to is to teach my
children and the next generations how to be a human
and how to walk with God and and and your
family and your community in a way that is righteous.
And everything that the government has been doing, from state
government to federal government under the Democrat power, has been

(01:46:33):
designed to undermine marriage, the family, and and and God.
They've espoused atheism through Darwinian education in our in our
school systems. They've they've espoused the destruction of the marriage
relationship through the legalization of of same sex marriage, whoever
else you wanted to marry to. They've espoused that, you know, look,
the destruction of of children and their ability to even

(01:46:55):
have healthy relationships through this transgender you know, evil experimentation
that's been going on with hormone therapy and transgender mutilation surgeries.
It all needs to stop. And you and I are
the ones going to be out there stepping in the
gap for Charlie Kirk saying this far and no further.
It doesn't make any sense for us to continue down

(01:47:17):
this road, unless, of course, we want to destroy ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
Reverend Hardin, earlier you said that the shooter will be
known by God, but just literally just handed to me
as they say. The FBI director and the governor of
Utah have now said a person of interest, the shooter
is in custody. So this is a good thing. So

(01:47:42):
maybe we can come to the bottom of their motivation,
and maybe by coming to the bottom of their motivation,
the motivation of a lot of these other lunatics will
be will become clear. Sharon, how we doing on time?
Sharon's my clock keeper today.

Speaker 5 (01:48:02):
To tell right now, I've been so engrossed in your conversation,
but it looks like we've got time still. I earlier
this afternoon called upon God with second chronicle seven fourteen,

(01:48:22):
talking just where you're talking, Pastor Jim, about how far
our country has gone and can we get back? He
gave us the formula for getting back is that where
our hope lies is in that coming together as a

(01:48:43):
nation and repenting of the sins that you've named. We
know them, and some of us have stood by and
allowed it. To happen. Some of us have stood by
and said, we don't want this to happen. We've tried
to fight. Some of us have willingly gone forward and

(01:49:09):
promoted this stuff. How do we as a nation come
back from this? What is the solution for us? As
a pastor? Jim Harden, these are the words that we need.

Speaker 11 (01:49:25):
I think that we can go to the words of
Jesus himself when he was asked about the news of
the day. A tower tower of Silom fell on fourteen
people and killed them, tragic accident. But then there was
this other piece of news that was given to him

(01:49:48):
about how there were Jews in one town that were
intentionally killed and their blood was mingled with the sacrifice.
And he was asked, you think about that? What do
you think about that? Jesus, this terrible, terrible things have happened,
And he didn't. It's interesting he he What he said was,

(01:50:12):
when you see these terrible things that happen, either they
look like tragedies that are that are not necessarily specific
or caused by anyone, or specifically specific injustices that actually
harm our own people, our first response should be to repent.
That's exactly what you said Sharon. Our first, our first

(01:50:33):
and immediate inclination should be God, forgive me, help me
to follow you, because I have no idea if I'm next,
I have no idea if a fatal accident is going
to occur when I'm driving home, I have no idea
if if the next time I'm speaking at a speaking engagement,
I'm going to get shot.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
I have no idea.

Speaker 11 (01:50:51):
I think about these things. I know Charlie was thinking
about these things. I know he had his own personal security.
I've had personal security. The reality is I know that
that that the best thing for me and the best
thing for everyone is to be in right relationship with
God at all times and then I don't have to
worry about it right. And I believe that's where Charlie was.

(01:51:12):
You know, he he knew that he was. Everywhere he went,
he was, he was at risk, and he wasn't taking
his life in his own hand, in his own hands.
He was giving his life to God. And that's what
we should do too. And that's what repentance basically is.
It's I'm giving my life to God in submission to
Jesus Christ, and I'm going to do what he calls
me to do.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
I'm going to.

Speaker 11 (01:51:31):
Stand for righteousness. Look, here's what sin is. My wife
called me today and she said, Jim, what is sin?
And I said, I said, why do you know? She said,
because one of our sons is asking me. I said, well,
sin is essentially, you know, doing something that is not
consistent with the character and nature of God, in whose

(01:51:53):
image we are made. That's sin we are. We are
made in his image and designed to reflect the the
glory of God Almighty, as human beings is the crown
of creation. And so because of that, it's incumbent upon
us to walk with him daily, to know his character,
to know his nature, and to reflect that back to

(01:52:13):
each other in respect and dignity, but also reflect it
back to him in submission to to who he is,
because that's who we are, and that's what we're missing
in America. The abortion debate is not about someone's opinion
about whether or not it's okay to end the life
of a pregnancy or an end life of a baby
people and boy and girl in pregnancy. The abortion debate
at heart is a debate about what it means to

(01:52:36):
be human. When does human life begin to what extent
am I responsible for other humans to what extent a
were responsible for protecting the lives of preborn boys and girls,
et cetera, et cetera. This is the debate about humanity transgenderism.
The very issue that Charlie Kirk was talking about when
he got assassinated is an issue that at heart is
a debate about what it means to be human. Can

(01:52:58):
I determine my own sex? The answer is no, No,
you can't. God has designed humanity in his image, male
and female. He created them, and he designed each, the
male and the female, with a very specific role in
the in the ability to glorify God, and together in
marriage or marriage relationship, it's even more amazing to see

(01:53:20):
the glory of God coming out through that relationship. And
so it's it's important for us to continue to educate,
to stand strong, to stand strong in our faith, and
to repent, to take this opportunity to look in inward
and say, God, I forgive me, and now let me
go forward encourage and in strength and in righteousness. Because look,

(01:53:42):
Satan never rests, but Satan always overplays his hand always,
and so if evil never rests, neither can we. We
cannot slacken, We cannot slacken our pace. We canno take
our freot off the gas. We cannot shrink back, we
cannot run in panic. As I said before, we must
stand and stand up tall, because when we see these

(01:54:03):
kinds of persecutions happening, Jesus said, stand up straight and
look up. For your redemption draws nigh. The time is short,
and so let's speak the truth and love. And yes,
let's be angry, that's fine, but let's leverage the energy
of the anger for righteousness and and and see a
change in America.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
It's time, Reverd James Hard and I'm gonna ask you
to end this segment with us by leading us in
a prayer for Charlie kirk Oh.

Speaker 11 (01:54:33):
I would be honored. Thank you, Rick, and Lord Jesus,
Heavenly Father, Holy Spirit. We asked that you would comfort
with the with your very presence, Charlie's wife, Erica, and
his children, and his parents, and Erica's parents and their

(01:54:56):
extended family. We pray that you would you would walk
with them, that they would they would feel a deep, deep,
abiding sense of your presence, and that not just today,
but for for the rest of their lives, That that
you would give them a special blessing, and that you
would infuse Charlie's children with faith and the courage that

(01:55:21):
that that is the Charlie's legacy. We pray Lord, that
you would infuse America with with with a deep sense
of the need to repent of our own sin and
to follow hard after you, for the sake of civilization
today and for the sake of of of of freedom tomorrow,
for our children and grandchildren. Help us Lord, to to

(01:55:42):
to live righteously and to speak courageously, and to sacrifice
in an uncalculated way for each other, for humanity, but
most of all for your glory. For we are made
in your imasion, designed to reflect You and Jesus name
me pray.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
Amen, Amen, Mississity. Conservative Commando's radio show with Sharon Angle,
ourm Rick Trader. Our guest has been Reverend James Harden.
He's a CEO of Compass Care and Reverend Harden again,
we want to thank you so much for joining us.
Take care and God bless God, bless you.

Speaker 26 (01:56:20):
Thank you to my great fellow Americans.

Speaker 10 (01:56:24):
I am filled with grief and anger.

Speaker 26 (01:56:27):
At the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk on a college
campus in Utah. Charlie inspired millions, and tonight all who
knew him and loved him are united in shock and horror.
Charlie was a patriot who devoted his life to the
cause of open debate and the country that he loved

(01:56:48):
so much, the United States of America. He fought for liberty, democracy, justice,
and the American people. He's a martyr for truth and freedom,
and there's never been anyone who was so respected by youth.
Charlie was also a man of.

Speaker 10 (01:57:06):
Deep, deep faith, and we take comfort in the knowledge
that he is now at peace with God in Heaven.

Speaker 26 (01:57:14):
Our prayers are with his wife, Erica, the two young
beloved children, and his entire family, who he loved more
than anything in the world. We asked God to watch
over them in this terrible hour of heartache and pain.

Speaker 10 (01:57:30):
This is a dark moment for America.

Speaker 26 (01:57:34):
Charlie Kirk traveled the nation, joyfully engaging with everyone interested
in good faith debate.

Speaker 10 (01:57:41):
His mission was to bring.

Speaker 26 (01:57:43):
Young people into the political process, which he did better
than anybody ever, to share his love of country, and
to spread the simple words of common sense on campuses nationwide.
He championed his ideas with current logic humor and grace.
It's a long past time for all Americans and the

(01:58:06):
media to confront the fact that violence and murder are
the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree,
day after day, year after year, in the most hateful
and despicable way possible. For years, those on the radical
left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and

(01:58:28):
the world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of
rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing
in our country today, and it.

Speaker 10 (01:58:41):
Must stop right now.

Speaker 26 (01:58:44):
My administration will find each and every one of those
who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence,
including the organizations that fund it and support it, as
well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials,
and everyone else who brings order to our country. From

(01:59:05):
the attack on my life in Butler, Pennsylvania last year,
which killed a husband and father, to the attacks on
ice agents, to the vicious murder of a healthcare executive
in the streets of New York, to the shooting of
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise and three others, radical of
political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken

(01:59:28):
too many lives. Tonight, they asked all Americans to commit
themselves to the American values for which Charlie Kirk lived
and died the values of free speech, citizenship, the rule
of law, and the patriotic.

Speaker 10 (01:59:43):
Devotion and love of God.

Speaker 26 (01:59:46):
Charlie was the best of America, and the monster who
attacked him was attacking our whole country. An assassin tried
to silence him with a bullet, but he failed because
together we will ensure that his voice, his message, and
his legacy will live on for countless generations to come. Today,

(02:00:06):
because of this heinous act, Charlie's voice has become bigger
and grander than ever before, and it's not even close.
May God bless his memory, May God watch over his family,
and may God bless the United States of America.

Speaker 10 (02:00:23):
Thank you,

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