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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome fellow deplorables, Welcome
all of you, drace to society, rock dwellers, you sick
offense and stinkos. Of course, translated means welcome our friends,
alas and you patriots out there, and you're always welcome here.
And this is the Conservative Commandos radio show. And I'm

(00:28):
Rick Trader comming to you from the my Pillar studios
and my store studios of the AU and TV Network.
And joining me today as my co host is George Landreth,
the president and CEO of Frontiers of Freedom. And George,
welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's great to be here. This is the place to
be like Win Win you know, and the AU and
TV Network.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Indeed it is indeed this so George, what's speaking your interest?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, those sixty minutes is oftentimes not worth watching. But
yesterday Donald Trump was on and Nora O'Donnell interviewed him,
and he seemed to have a decent relationship with her.
I didn't get the impression that her interview was trying
to do a hatchet job on him. She seemed to
be being a little more what you call reasonable or fair.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Respectful, a little bit more respectful.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
So I thought it was that very interesting. He covered
a ton of topics, obviously, or she did, and then
he of course answered the questions. But an example be
I think they started off with the deal in China,
and what do we get out of that, and what
was good about that. It's kind of interesting because he
did a good I think history lesson on what has happened.
He pointed out that hey, we got everything we wanted.

(01:40):
We got the rare earth threat was ended. We also
got tremendous amounts of money coming in because while we
got rid of some of the tariffs, the tariffs still
apparently are almost at fifty percent. They used to be
like one hundred percent, and so but that means there'll
still be a lot of money coming in because.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
A lot of room yet for negotiation too. Right, he
didn't get the entire farm away, right, and he's still
got a lot of tools to play a crops for
next year. So you know, at first, when you talk
about tariffs, and I saw it that way, he brought
it from fifty seven down to forty seven. I'm thinking
that's a little weird. But then I thought, well, this

(02:21):
is Trump, this is the deal maker. He didn't want
to get the entire farm away. He wanted to have
room to negotiate next month, next year, whatever. And I
thought that, Okay, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, and it's you know, so it's he pointed out
that part of the reason why we need to keep
these tariffs going is because quote, you know, China's ripped
us off so much. He points out how they've taken
trillions of dollars out of our country, and now it's
the opposite. We're starting to get it back now. And
so his point was that's just the way it's got

(02:55):
to be. And I'm thinking to myself, that's a pretty
good deal, that's what you want. And an example would be,
I understand correctly, for a year or so, they weren't
buying any soybeans from America, and that was harming the
soybean farmers in America. But now they've made a major
commitment to buy I think millions of tons of American
soybeans in a George.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
A lot of the American people will go, well, what
does the soybeans have to do with me? All right, Well,
they need to think about down downriver, down line that
by the farmers selling those soybeans, that's a lot more
money that the farmers have to spend on equipment, on
repairs on their farms, more money for them and their

(03:36):
families to live on. You know that that money just
doesn't go to soybeans. That money goes throughout the community,
throughout the state, throughout the region, throughout the country.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
So that was a big deal exactly. You know, it's
kind of like when we have a something hits a
major sector of our economy, it impacts us all. You know, sure,
if one guy in the country loses his job, it
probably doesn't impact us all. But when hundreds of thousands
of people are being hit hard economically, it has its

(04:10):
impact because then they're not shopping as much, they're you know,
other things, and so it kind of winds down the economy.
So this is a good move, and you're right, it's
not just for the soybean farmers or even farmers. It
spreads out you much further than that.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, I'm sure there's farmers that are going to buy tractors,
they are going to buy refrigerators, TVs, cars, trucks. I
mean that that money gets spread throughout the country. So
anytime you make a deal that huge, bringing that kind
of money into the country, it's good for the entire country,
not just the soybean farmers.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, that's a good point. Anyhow, he's done, you know,
pointed out that all kinds of different factors that they
worked on to try to essentially make sure that the
economy in the US was not being harmed by doing
business with the communist regime and instead that we derive
a benefit from it. And you know, obviously in an

(05:10):
economic situation, both sides have to get some benefit, but
he's making sure that we get a big benefit because
for years we've been stupid allowing them to basically rob us.
So to me, it's a very interesting thing that he
did so well with that, and yet the press doesn't
seem to want to cover it. They seem to just
kind of want to ignore it. It's kind of like

(05:31):
when crime has collapsed in DC. Do you see much
coverage on the main news about that?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, But I'll tell you what I did see big
coverage of there is kind of like a ride or
a couple of hundred teenagers got together on the on
the National Mall or wherever it was that got covered
George Right, that got coverage, That got covered.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah. So it's just interesting that they seem the press
seems to be very interested in covering only certain segments
of what's going on. They don't want to cover anything
that makes Donald Trump look like he's being successful. An
example would be they all act like sending the National
Guard to DC or talking about sending it into Chicago

(06:14):
is outrageous, you know, And it's kind of like, Okay,
that's interesting. So I wonder when Eisenhower did it, was
it outrageous? When John F. Kennedy did it, was it outrageous?
And many other presidents. I mean, it's it's kind of like,
this has happened more than a dozen times where presidents
have sent in the National Guard to protect American citizens

(06:39):
from having their rights taken from them by mobs or
by criminals, or by other circumstances, and all of a sudden,
now when Donald Trump wants to do it, it's outrageous
and unprecedented. It's like, come on, man, unprecedented. If it's
happened a dozen times in just our lifetimes, I don't

(06:59):
think you can say that that's unprecedented, And yet they
say it. And so what it tells you is the
mainstream media is either unbelievably stupid, meaning they don't bother
to do any research on the history so that when
they talk about things. Because if I'm writing a paper
and I'm going to call something unprecedented, you know what
I'm going to do. I'm going to do to make

(07:21):
sure that I'm not saying that this has never happened before,
because that's what the word unprecedented means. And so it's
very interesting to me that if you look at part
of their they were talking also about some of the
crime stuff and what he might do. They again address
this idea of Donald Trump wants to see Americans live

(07:41):
in a safe society. They want to pretend that it's
that some political gamesmanship of his. It's like, no, these
are cities. Sure, they're all democratic cities. That's true. That
doesn't make a political gamesmanship. That just means that certain
Democrats when they're liberal kooks, kind of like the governor
of Illinois and the mayor of Chicago, and the governor

(08:03):
of California and the governor of New York and the
you know, so forth, you go around and you look
at some of these cities and you realize or in
some cases it may maybe it's not the mayor's fault.
I in Philadelphia, I don't know that it is. It
might be the prosecutor's fault there. But the point is
you have people who don't seem to care about enforcing
the law and protecting law abiding citizens from criminals. And

(08:27):
so he's saying Americans have a constitutional right to be safe,
and if the state or the local government refuses to
protect those rights, we will. And it's interesting because our Constitution,
for example, also guarantees us the right to every person.
We obviously have a constitutional republic for the United States,

(08:49):
but every state has to have a representative democracy approach
to government. So no state could crown a king, no
state could decide to change their system of government so
that there's not a legislature that's elected, there's not a
governor that's elected, et cetera, et cetera. They have to
have that. That's the Constitution says, and so it shouldn't

(09:14):
be shocking that a president has an interest in making
sure that Americans are well protected, and he's done that. Anyhow,
other things that were in the interview that I thought
were interesting. They talked about the AI race, artificial intelligence
and so forth, and China has some advantages as it
were in that. And what I mean by that is,

(09:34):
if you're a totalitarian regime, it's easier to develop artificial
intelligence because in the US we have certain privacy rights,
and so they have to develop our artificial intelligence without
requiring us to participate. We can participate, but it's by
our choice. There, it's not so much. But also he's

(09:57):
basically pointing out, and I think he's right about this,
is that artificial intelligence is going to be a major,
exactly national security issue. An example would be you can
use artificial intelligence in targeting and in other methodology and defense,
and it would make sense to do so because a
human mind might have to think about it for a
while and look at the you know where, the trajectory

(10:19):
and all this other stuff. It's kind of like we
have computers that help us target with our tanks. When
our tanks were taking on the Russian tanks in Iraq,
we destroyed them just out of the just totally obliterated them.
Why because we could shoot at ten different targets at
once and they could only shoot one at a time.

(10:42):
And part of that was again because of computer aided technology,
and AI is kind of taking that to the next level.
So there's lots of reasons for us to make sure
that we're the world leader in AI.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I too, another really interesting thing about and he was
talking about AI and the chips. There's a company out
there that's the largest corporation in the world right now,
and Video and Vidio makes the best chips for AI,
and the president during that interview has said that and

(11:16):
Vidia can sell chips to China, but will not be
selling the best chips to China. I found that very interesting.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, exactly, if we have the best chips and the
highest technology, let's not be transporting like like would we
have done that? During World War Two? We decided to say,
let's make sure that the Nazis have the same technology
that we have. I'm sure glad we didn't do that
with the atomic.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
And I'll tell you another thing. If the Chinese got
hold of these these advanced chips put out by the Video,
I guarantee they would re engineer it. Yeah, and you
know that that would that would really hurt the hurt
this company and Vidio, would hurt our country because then
the Chinese part with us no anyway, George, and nothing

(12:04):
you meant you brought up kings? All right, we do
got to go to a break. But I want to
end this subject by saying this, if we did have
a king, I would want our king to love America
the way Donald Trump does. That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, yeah, I mean you would obviously. I mean I
don't want a king, and I know you don't either,
but you'd want a king, you know. An example would
be if you had a king who respected the constitutional
rights of the citizens and saw it as his job
to protect your rights, then that king wouldn't be one
of the kind of bad historical kings we've seen through history.
The guys that don't get the job done right are

(12:41):
the guys that think, hey, I'm important, you're not. I'm powerful,
you're not. And you know, and I don't really care
about you because you don't matter that. We've had kings
like that throughout history, and that's why kings have a
bad reputation. But there's probably been a couple of kings
that were if you will, not the norm, but any rate,

(13:04):
because the real key is is does your government respect
your rights? Because even if they're elected officials, but they
don't respect your rights, like say Chuck Schumer. The fact
that you elected him doesn't make him okay. He's dangerous
to your freedom. Why because he has the wrong attitude.
The fact that you elected him doesn't actually change that.

(13:25):
We have to understand that elections are not what makes
our government legitimate. What makes our government legitimate is they
abide by the Constitution and they abide by the belief
that we are all created equal and endowed by our creator,
not by them, within aniable rights.

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(19:16):
that interview, by the way, took over an hour and
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Speaker 2 (19:54):
That was interesting. He also was asked about the trickle
down effect of what he's been doing for the average worker,
and he pointed out that it's helping us create jobs.
And you know, they're building plants all over the country,
new factories. We're bringing the auto industry back into our country.
For example, he pointed out that we've lost fifty eight

(20:15):
percent of the automobile manufacturing business in the United States
to other countries, and he's pointing out that we're now
in the process of rebuilding that and he says, within
a year or two at the most, we're going to
be back to being essentially the premiere automobile manufacturer again.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
And George, you know why that's you know another reason
why I find that very very important won the Second
World War because the United States outproduced China and out
produced not China, Japan and Germany. When when the war
broke out, we converted our car manufacturing to trucks to

(21:00):
thanks to war machinery. Now without that, without that manufacturing base,
if something would happen and we would need to rent
our industry up in a time of war, if that
industry is in the home of our enemy, like China,

(21:21):
we've got a world to hurt here. So I think
that that manufacturing is so important to be here, not
just for the present time, not just to produce cars
and trucks here in the United States now and for
the jobs, for the taxation and all the other things.
But we always have to be forever vigilant and we

(21:44):
have to be prepared that if we ever do go
to work back into a war. So I think that
is hugely strategic.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh yeah, I agree with you there. The other thing
that I think it's why it's strategic is because he's
building jobs that are self supporting. What I mean by
that is all Biden did was any jobs that he
created or government jobs, which basically just means you and
I and all of our listeners had to pay for
those jobs because those jobs don't actually make money. You know,

(22:17):
if Ford Motor Company or GM or Apple Computer or
Microsoft hire new people, you and I don't have to
pay for that. They pay for that out of the
revenue that they create. And so they only hire new
people if they think they're going to be able to
make more stuff and therefore sell more stuff, and so

(22:38):
it's self supporting, meaning that we don't have to cover
the cost of it. But when government hires new people
and decides that they're going to hire eighty five thousand
new employees, that's coming out of your pocketbook. You're paying
every nickel of that, not just for their salaries, but
for the buildings they work in, for the utilities required
to heat and cool the building, and for the stuff

(23:02):
that they get during well, like their retirement plans and
things like that. You cover all of that. So it's
exorbitantly expensive. So what we don't want to do is
create a ton of government jobs unless they are jobs
that we really need, Like if they're just bureaucrats, that's
something like, what do we need another eighty five thousand

(23:24):
bureaucrats for? It may well be that we need for example,
more border security agents, or in some cities they may
need more policemen, but there the public does well. They're
paying for it. They also get the benefit, meaning their
streets are safer or their border is more secure, and
that makes sense. It's kind of like having the US Army.

(23:45):
I'm not upset that we have a US Army and
that I'm having to help pay for those salaries, because
those are the guys and gals that are working to
make sure that America is safe and that the world's
evil actors, whether it be the Houthis or terrorists or
other communist regimes, that we are protected from them. Because
we don't look like an easy victory. We look like, yeah,

(24:10):
I don't think we want to do that. It looks
like a bad day on the battlefield. And that's a
good thing. We want that. But the point is having
what an extra hundred thousand bureaucrats? What does that do?
That just costs a lot of money, costs jobs because
economic people have done studies to point out that every
bureaucrat the government hires reduces the number of actual jobs

(24:31):
there are because they regulate and make it more costly
to hire people, and so you're paying twice for that one.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Indeed you were, Indeed you were. I have never seen
a government job that made money, that made anything. They
just take and take and take. So anything else during
that interview that piqued your interest.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Sure, Well, one thing was the question was to him,
our grocery price is going up because you hear people
act like that's what's happening, And the funny thing is
is that's actually what happened under Biden. But right now
they've been going down. And I think he pointed out
that other than beef, which he says they're working on
and he thinks they'll be able to solve quickly, that

(25:15):
that will because beef ranchers apparently took a real drub
drubbing over a thirty year period, and he doesn't necessarily
want to put them out of business, but he wants
to find a way to have them be self sustaining
and profitable at the same time reduced prices. But everything else,
whether it's you know, eggs or you know, if you
go to the grocery store today, you may find one

(25:37):
or two items on your list is more expensive, but
the vast majority of almost everything on your list will
be less expensive, not just eggs, but many other things,
because they were at one point triple and quadruple the
price that they are now.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Maybe like seven or eight dollars a dozen, George, you know,
and now you can get them for about two bucks
a dozen, which is just slight lee higher than what
they were in Donald Trump's first term. Right, Guess the
other day, I got Guess for two dollars and sixty
five cents a gallon, which is just which is cheaper

(26:15):
than I've gotten gas since Donald Trump was in the
White House the last time. So things are coming down,
and if they're not coming down, at least they're not
going up astronomically thirty forty like they were during the
Joe Oh Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
M Yeah, I think it's very interesting that people kind
of don't seem to be paying attention to reality because
if you look at your bills, whether it's filling your
tank with gas or filling your grocery cart with groceries,
the prices are going down, and that if you'll notice,
inflation has gone down, like so it's not just now

(26:54):
another crisis, you know, because of inflation, the prices may
not go down to what they used to be ten
years ago. But they will go down. It's just it
might take a while. But I just I feel like
people are not there. They were willing to overlook prices
skyrocketing when mister Biden was president, but now when they're dropping,

(27:17):
they're acting like, well, but they're not dropping that fast.
That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Well, George, before we go to our break, which we
have to in a minute, it who I just went
to talk about another Democrat lie, and that's that it
is the Republicans that are locking down the government. And again,
I just want to remind all our friends out there,
just do the math. Let's just do the math. Thirteen
times every Republican in the Senate save for one, voted

(27:47):
to keep the government open. Conversely, every Democrat but three
voted to shut the government down. And every time that
they've had a vote, thirteen or fourteen times now, every
time all those Republicans voted to open the government, all
those Democrats, say for three, voted to keep it shut.

(28:11):
So who's shutting down the government?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Well, yeah, and they have to have sixty votes because
this that's the Senate rules right now to force a vote.
And so since the Republicans have fifty three. That means
they need seven votes. That means they need four more
than the three. And it's pretty interesting because like one
of the newest elected Democrats, and he was a pretty

(28:36):
clearly liberal, you know, left winger when he was running
in Fetterman, John Fetterman, so I was I wouldn't have
expected to have this conversation when he was running for office.
I would not have predicted this. But he actually seems
fairly rational because he's pointing out the kind of what
this very obvious thing is that you and I just discussed,

(28:56):
because he can do math. Apparently even after having a stroke,
he can still do math. And he points out that
it's the Democrats that are voting consistently to keep the
government shut down, and he calls upon them to cut
the crap and to vote to open the government up.
And he's right. But I guess the Democrats can be

(29:17):
angry with him because how dare he speak the truth?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I bet here we'll be primed to when he's up
for reelection. Hey, George, let's get a break in here.
And after this break, we do have a couple of
great interviews planned for you here on the Conservative Commander,
So stay tuned. For that, and don't go wait. We'll
be back with those interviews right after this break.

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And welcome back, Welcome back to that conservative Commanders radio
show with George Landrathin. You're Shredlely Rick Trader coming to
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you know, I always always appreciate it when our longtime
friends of the show that join us, but it's always

(32:59):
great to make a new friend, and I think we
got one here today.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Well, we do a new friend for the show and
for you for me. You know, Carrie and I have
been friends a long time, but I'm excited to introduce
her because she has been a very strong advocate for
freedom and opportunity in America for a very long time.
She's she is the well, she's with the Election Integrity Network.

(33:25):
She's their executive vice president. And you might guess that
the Election Integrity Network works on things like election integrity,
but anyhow, she is in charge of their communication marketing
and their external partnership relations and media outreach. And she
also chairs several of their national working groups, and she
conducts their media training and is a senior advisor to

(33:50):
Only Citizens Vote Coalition. Thinking to myself, that's a good coalition. Anyhow,
she's obviously well known in conservative circles. She's worked a
lot of different groups. An example these some include the
Conservative and Partnership Institute. She's also been at the Institute

(34:11):
for Liberty, and she's been with, for example, Frontiers of Freedom.
So that's why I say I've known her for a
long time because she used to be a VP here.
And so the bottom line is she has a lot
of experience. She's worked for governor excuse me, for Senator
Rick Scott and his plan to help parents rights or

(34:33):
procusing patience rights, and then she's you know, she just
has a lot of experience. So Carrie, welcome to the
Conservative Commandos. We're very glad to have you.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
Yeah, I'm so glad to be with you. It's a thrill. Thanks, George.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I wanted to ask you to kind of if you
will give us some idea about this, you know, idea
of election integrity, because some people think that that means, oh,
why do you want election integrity? You know, if you're
a woke kooki leftist, what you want is for legal
aliens and criminals to be able to vote. And I

(35:05):
want everybody who's a citizen to be able to vote.
But you know, some people act like, what you want
to limit it to citizens? How dare you so help
me figure out what's going on in the world.

Speaker 8 (35:16):
Oh gosh, that's a big question. Do we only have
a little bit of time?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
You know?

Speaker 8 (35:20):
It sort of kind of goes back to the Declaration
of Independence, if we can go back in history a
little bit. So in the Declaration of Independence, it says
that the government shall derive its just powers. And we
could have an argument about just powers from the consent
of the government. And the way that the American citizen
either provides or withdraws his or her consent is through voting.

(35:45):
Like there's no other greater way. There's no other way
that we do that really, including voting, you know, up
for balance amendments, voting for president, voting for state legislators,
no matter what it is. And the security of our
elections has really gone downhill over the last let's just
say twenty years for the sake of argument, and what

(36:07):
that has done. It has created a lot of fraudulent results.
Some of them are knowable, some of them are provable.
We all know what happened in twenty twenty. Is it
provable in the court la Maybe yes, maybe no, but
we all know what happened and what it does. The
worst part of all of that is a voting voter confidence.
And when you're road voter confidence, you're basically suppressing the

(36:28):
vote because people think, why bother. You know, if I
vote in Detroit, then the left is going to bring
in sixteen boxes of ballots to count and put the
pizza boxes up in the wall and no one will know.
So really, what I guess, really at the bottom of
what we do at Election Integrity Network is work on
those issues that one make sure that people have confidence

(36:48):
in their results and two that they're fair results, that
they're fair, accurate, provable, demonstrable, results.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
It's a very interesting point because it used to be
long before say, the democracy became a concept, or in
our case, a we're a democratic republic, and so we
still you know, people vote, but we don't vote on everything.
An example would be the first ten Amendments give us
a long list of things we won't be voting on.
We don't vote on whether or not your religion is acceptable.
We don't vote on whether your opinions are acceptable. We

(37:18):
don't vote on whether or not you get a fair trial,
you know. And yet people a lot on the left
when they want democracy, I think what they want is
to get rid of those limits on government because they
want unlimited government power. But I wanted to ask you
this question. As you go back in history, the way
we used to make decisions was the the group of
people that had the essentially the largest army or the

(37:40):
best weapons were the ones who got to decide who
ruled and what the tax rate would be and what
the policies would be. And as a result, you can
see all kinds of battles and constant wars in you know,
we go back to you go back to the island
of England before it was great Britain or the UK,
and he had all these kingships that were fighting with

(38:02):
each other to see who could have control, and that's
how they decided things. They had voted, They never got
together to vote. And so I guess my question is
if I guess what it worries me is if we
get to a point where people believe that voting is
not legitimate and that it's going to be a cheating process,
then all you're really doing is begging people to go

(38:23):
back to the old methodology, you know, And I don't
want to do that. I don't want to create a
world in which my children and grandchildren return to the
world that my great great great great great great great
great great great grandparents were in, in which there was
constant wars and constant you know, battles to settle disputes
between people claiming power. And it seems to me it's

(38:46):
much better if we just hold regular elections and then
we can trust those elections we follow the rule. So
I want to ask you to help us sort that out.
Am I being a little unrealistic? Is it not actually
a potential worry or problem?

Speaker 8 (38:59):
It is very much potential worry because there is so
much manipulation going on in the election system. It's really
really a huge problem. So the left figured out a
long time ago that the way to control elections is
through process. We don't do that on the conservative side.
We're concerned with the issues. We're concerned with people voting

(39:23):
on policy, on good people and integrity, and with the
left is gone and it done. It's tried to reak
havoc on all the provisions that states have in running elections.
Rank choice voting, which people may or may not be
familiar with, is something that they've pushed. They've funded a
lot of election offices with private left wing money to

(39:47):
influence the outcomes of those offices, which is being banned
in a number of states. They've done endless things and
they try to win the pr ward to George because
they're constantly ca us a bunch of racist and suppressionists
every time we try to fix the election system, and
you know, an election integrity network, we say all the time,

(40:07):
we're nonpartisan. We really need that. When we go out
and we do sort of some kind of legislative advocacy
or making sure that election officials are following the law,
we don't say, oh, we just want that for conservative
voters and just leave the liberal ballots in the trash can, Like,
we don't do that, but the left kind of does
do that. They try to put the conservative ballots in

(40:29):
the trash can by changing laws, by unduly and unlawfully
and unconstitutionally trying to impact elections. And we even have
foreign governments to foreign actors trying to do that. There's
a lot of states now that are trying to pass
a ballot amendment to ban foreign actors and foreign donors

(40:51):
for giving money to ballot initiatives because under the under
federal law, they can't contribute. A foreigner can't contribute to
a candidate, but there's nothing barring them from giving money
to ballot initiative. So in Florida, where I lived last year,
we had a ballot initiative, a pro life ballot initiative,
and a foreign actor, a guy named Hans yorg Vis,

(41:14):
who lives in Switzerland and who is busy trying to
destroy the American economy and other aspects of it, said
millions of dollars into Florida to push against the pro
life amendment. So you know, that's just another way they
do it. And again looking at non citizen voting. There's
all kinds of reasons and examples of we know why,

(41:36):
we know that non citizens are voting in our elections,
we know they're doing it, we know how they're registering.
We're trying to change the laws to make sure that
that doesn't happen anymore, and the endless amount of pushback
we get is just insane.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
It's very interesting. I'm very surprised that they are so
obviously trying to do things that are unfair and unreasonable
because it kind of demonstrates who they are and what
they're really about. It does I'm trying to figure out.
You know, I don't think it used to be like that.
I think there was a time when, you know, example
would be today, we debate whether or not we should

(42:12):
have free speech or not. But when I was a
kid growing up, that wasn't really a debate. Everybody agreed. Basically,
ninety nine point nine percent of the populace thought the
First Amendment was inspired and made sense, and all of
a sudden, now free speech is violence. Oh no, but violence,
by the way, is not violence. It's the free speech
that's violence.

Speaker 8 (42:32):
Well, if they don't like it, it's bad. Yeah, yeah,
and you know that, and you bring up a really
good point, George. Times have changed. Forty years ago. We
didn't really have an illegal immigrant problem. Twenty years ago,
we didn't have a bunch of Democrats fighting against any
kind of law that makes sure that a new registrant,

(42:52):
a new voter registrant, provides documentary proof of citizenship, because
our laws are no longer adequate. That The National a
Registration Act was passed in nineteen ninety three, and it
codifies what's basically in a number of places in the
Constitution that says only citizens are allowed to vote in
American elections. Well, that makes kind of sense, but there

(43:14):
was no provision to prove that you're a citizen, because
you could argue that you didn't really need to back then,
and there was no provision for enforcements. So recently at AIM,
we've really promoted the Save Act, which is a congressional
piece of congressional legislation that passed in the House last
week and now was onto the Senate. And all that
it says is not well, it doesn't say this part.

(43:36):
But now that we have twenty five forty million illegal
immigrants in our country and there are several states that
give drivers' licenses to them, and we have a federal
government that gives them Social Security cards. No matter what,
we need a provision for anybody newly registering to vote
that says you need to prove that you're a citizen

(43:56):
with your passport, with your birth certificate, with whatever you like,
you can prove it. And honestly, they're just going appplectic
over there. Their latest argument was that it is disenfranchising
married women, because the Left contend that married women who've
gotten married in changing their name are too dumb to
figure out how to change their voter registration. They could

(44:18):
change their driver's license, they could change all kinds of
you know, their insurance policy, all kinds of various things,
but they're too dumb to figure out how to change
their voter registration. And you just think, how do they
even make this argument? And people listen, but they do,
and you know, it's just it's just craziest thing.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, that's a good point. It's very interesting that because
I think of myself when I've gone into foreign countries
and I was there for you know, a week or
more for business or other reasons. I'm wondering, would they
let me walk into a voter registration department of government
and registered to vote because I'm there. Yeah, no, I'm
sure they wouldn't. They'd say, no, sorry, you're welcome to visit,

(44:57):
but you ain't welcome to vote because this is not
your home and you don't live here, and like, yeah,
that makes sense. I agree with that. That's why I
have never bothered to try to register to vote when
I visit a foreign country, because it's it just makes
sense to you.

Speaker 8 (45:10):
Yeah, it's insulting to the foreign country that they would
that you would think that their elections are so unimportant
that you can wander off across the border and influence them,
which is but you know, it's the same argument they
use about voter ID. I am endlessly stunned that they
continue to say that voter ID is mean, racist and

(45:30):
suppressionist because minorities are incapable of going to get a
voter ID. How do they even get away with that rhetoric.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
We did some point that rhetoric is racist.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
It is, it's so.

Speaker 8 (45:43):
Insulting and ridiculous, and yet they see it all the time.
We did some polling with Scott Rasmussen recently and one
of the questions in it's Republicans, Democrats, you know, all
all different racial groups. Do you think it's okay to
how do you think we should demand voter ID? It
was something like eighty three percent, and of course we
should have voter ID. And you know, I think about Georgia.

(46:04):
So they changed the law, the voter ID law in
Georgia in twenty twenty one, right before the twenty twenty
two midterms, and one of the requirements now was you
had to have an ID to vote. And they got
rid of the All Star Game out of Atlanta because
all the people in Georgia were racist and you know,
the poor black people couldn't go get an ID. And
God bless African American community. They came out in twenty

(46:26):
twenty two and voted in larger numbers than they had
ever voted before. So it's just a ridiculous, insulting and
spicious argument. So that's what we're up against a lot
of the times, is you can't really have an organized,
reasonable policy discussion with these people because they just throw
crazy terms at you, and you think, how can you
even say that out loud?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, that's a very good point, very good point. And
that's a great place for us to take a quick break,
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Speaker 1 (50:33):
Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio Show with George
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Hey you see all that great stuff here with the
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(51:14):
guests for sticking with us. And it's Kerry Alaska. She's
the Election Integrity Network's executive vice president. And Kerry, we
want to thank you for holding through that break. We
appreciate you your time. And before we start talking more
about election integrity, let's talk about the Election Integrity Network.

(51:34):
And I know you told George a little bit about
what you guys do, but tell us more.

Speaker 8 (51:40):
I would love to so. At Election Integrity Network, we
were founded in January of twenty twenty one by a
well known election integrity attorney, Cleta Mitchell, who woke up
like the rest of us, the week after the twenty
twenty election and said, something doesn't smell right. We need
to do something about this. So she created EI in.

(52:00):
We do two things at Election Integrity Network. We do
a lot of things, but two main things is we
are truly a network. We run a number of state
coalitions which we reach out and grow. We have twenty
three states with very active state coalitions that work on
state legislation, fighting ballot amendments that are bad, advocating for

(52:20):
ballid amendments that are good, all that kind of stuff.
That's one side of what we do. The other side
of what we do is called National working Groups, and
that is our policy arm and so we have people
from all fifty states who join us on our national
working groups. We cover vulnerable voters, voter rolls, machines, and
technology legislation, blah blah blah. You could go through the
whole lone in nonsitizen voting, go through the whole laundry list.

(52:44):
We have a new website coming out, but right now
we're at Who's Counting dot US. So if anybody wants
to sign up to join a state coalition or we'd
like to join us on national work national working group,
we would be delighted to have you. Just go to
Who's Counting dot M and on the bottom you will
find a join us button and we'd be happy to
get back to you. Because we are the people. We

(53:06):
have a small staff and a giant group of very
active people out in the in the network. I tell
everybody they're the ten percent that do the ninety percent
of the work. It's not just being on the phone
having a nice zoom twice a month going blah blah
blah blah blah. I mean, these people really get a
lot of stuff done, so God bless every last one
of them. We give people who you know, I say,

(53:26):
sometimes Mary and Joe from a tamoi Iowa my example.
Don't ask me why. Like Mary and Joe for tama
Iowa used to sit around their kitchen table and canvetch about,
oh my gosh, these elections are terrible. I know that
they're stealing it, and I know and there's nothing I
can do well. Our goal is to give them something
to do well.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
You know, Kerry, it's interesting you say that because as
head of the aun TV network, we've got this voice
text sideline let me plug that were awais sex hotline
four one five eight five four two six seven seven.
We give people an opportunity to call us and text
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I read every single one of these comments. I respond

(54:02):
to most of them, and especially right before the twenty
twenty four election, so many comments. So I got, hey, Rick,
is my voice? Is my vote going to account? Or
how can I assure that my vote is going to count?
Or you know what I give up with? My vote's
not going to count, So I'm not even going to vote.
So many people feel that way. Unfortunately, so many people

(54:25):
feel that way.

Speaker 8 (54:26):
It's very distressing and it is nice for me because
my heart is really in the coalition world. It's to
have an organization for those people who call in in
your voice line to actually be part of a group
that can actually do something like we tell people you
don't have to know what you're doing when you come
on our calls. We're here to help you.

Speaker 13 (54:47):
To teach you.

Speaker 8 (54:47):
We tell people, you know, elections don't happen in your
state capital. They don't happen in Washington, you see, they
happen in your local precinct or whatever your voting jurisdiction is.
And you have every right to walk into your officials,
your election officials office, and ask nicely, always nicely, ask questions, well,
how do you clean the voter roles? And how do

(55:09):
you make sure dead people are taking off the voter rolls?
And how do you make sure you stop counting, you
stop letting people in line after set carry not to.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Her up, but in made many many cases. In fact,
one of our co hosts here on the Conservative Commanders
is Sharon Engele. And Sharon has been very, very involved
in voter integrity, and she has gone door to door
and knocked on doors and asked for particular voters, speak
to particular voters. One place she went to she had

(55:37):
eight names. She had eight names, it's one particular address.
So she knocked on the door. Lady came to do
it door and she says, does some and so and
so and so live here? And the lady said, well,
if they did, they have a real problem because this
is a funeral home. Oh my gosh. And you know
what did you get those names? To get those names

(55:58):
removed from the ballots is like pulling teeth out of
a lion.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Read.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
I mean when it comes to when it comes to
going to the county or even going to the course.
Sharon tells the story that she had I forget the
exact number, like six thousand cases of people who had
voted in Nevada who actually lived in California. And she
went to court. And when she went to the court,
the judge said to her, that's not enough voter fraud.

(56:26):
Wait a minute, you know, a single case of voter
fraud should be enough. But the judge, well, that's not
enough voter fraud. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
It is.

Speaker 8 (56:35):
We get that argument all the time on the non
citizen of voting, and the left will say, well, it's
not that many people. And my question is always the same, Well,
how many is acceptable to you? That's the first question,
and the second question is okay, so every unlawful voter, however,
are they're unlawful, whether a non citizen, whether they're dead,
whether they're from Idaho and they're voting in California. However,

(56:56):
that is so, how many US citizens are you comfortable
with having their vote counteracted and negated by the unlawful ones?
Do tell us what that number is like? It should
be zero. Nobody should ever play zero. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Yeah, Harry, Are we finally winning this battle?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Are we finally winning this battle of voter front? We are?

Speaker 8 (57:18):
And I'll tell you why, because everybody's talking about it.
Right November one, twenty twenty, nobody was talking about it. Now,
everybody's talking about it. We we rejoice in the hit
pieces that we get. Cleta and I get hit pieces
on us all the time, and we rejoice in them
every single time. And one of the left wing publications

(57:39):
actually said in their article it was I think last
October sixty three percent of people we polled on Twitter
said they had heard of non citizen voting for the
first time on they contribute election sixty three percent, they said,
Now where they to know? But the bottom line is
everybody's talking about it now, just not just we nerdy

(58:01):
people who live in think tank world, but just regular
folks are thinking, you know, it's okay to go to
my election office and ask how they're doing this. It's
okay to be suspicious when this, that or the other
thing happens. It's okay to show voter id So I
think just the fact that everybody's talking about it so
much is a gigantic when and you know the whole
sunshine thing, right, it's a kid in the candy store.

(58:21):
If the kid, the little kid walks in the candy
store and there's no grown ups in there, he may
steal a piece of candy. If the little kid walks
in the candy store and there's fifteen grown ups standing
at him like pole watchers, that kid is not going
to steal the candy. So it's all about the eyeballs.
And you know, those eyeballs belong to Patriot volunteers who
are just regular folks who have just really had it.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
You know, Carrie, what I hate is yes, but I
hate that term. Yes, but but I have to use
it here. Yes, but Carrie, it's some must like whack
them hole. Every time we are putting out wildfires. You
put out one here, another one pops up over there,
and you put out that one pops up over there.
So now the left, now the left with all this

(59:05):
illegal immigration, and if you listen to the news right now,
this illegal immigrant from Marlin, who the left wants to
call the Marlin Man or the Maryland Dad. I mean,
they want to bring him back from wherever Ol Salvador
or wherever the plane took him. They want to bring
him back. They call him the Maryland Man. Next, they're

(59:28):
going to make sure that Maryland man votes, that non
citizens votes. And we see in many areas of the
country today where they're allowing or encouraging non citizens to vote.
Not only that, Carrie, the other whack them old popping
up out of the whole. Last week, they had elections

(59:51):
in Newark, New Jersey, for the school board where they
allowed sixteen and seventeen year olds to vote. Carrie, don't
tell me the sixteen that's seventeen year olds are not
going to think they can now vote in any election.

Speaker 8 (01:00:04):
Yeah no, I mean that that's definitely a problem. That
So a couple of thoughts. Number One, states are getting smarter. So,
just on the non citizen thing, New.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Jersey isn't, Carrie, I'm sorry, New Jersey isn't.

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
Yeah no, I listen, Yeah, I gotcha. But this last
election we had in twenty twenty four, six states, including
Oregon past legislation are past a state ballot amendment by
the citizens, codifying in their state constitutions that only citizens vote.

(01:00:39):
That wouldn't happen four years ago. And the lowest number
of votes they that was given in the six states
was sixty three percent. I think that was Oregon. Some
of the other states that passed by seventy two percent.
So what that tells me is that we're making Is
it perfect? No, I would never say it's perfect. The
other thing we have is President Trump, who two weeks
ago ago now I guess, put out an executive order

(01:01:02):
on things that he wants the DOJ to do to
DHS to do. So here's one of the biggest problems
we've had all along is the databases don't talk to
each other. The state databases within the state don't talk
to each other, which would be the DMV records, which
you have to say I'm not a citizen to get
your real ID, and the voter roles don't talk. And

(01:01:24):
then Maryland doesn't talk to Virginia. So when somebody leaves
Virginia and moves to Maryland, those databases they can't connect
them because they're deliberate. The worst offender is Joe Biden
who refused to allow state secretaries of state to access
what's called the HAVE database. It is basically a Social
Security database that does have a box for MI a citizen,

(01:01:45):
and also a DHS database that shows the who is
here lawfully and who is here not lawfully. Neither of
those are perfect, but they would cut down on voter
role problems hugely. So any executive word or one thing
that President Trump said is henceforth, social Security and DHS.

(01:02:06):
You have to allow every state secretary of state to
run a query of your database against their voter rules.
And I guarantee once they figure out how to magically
connect those buttons, that will knock out a ton of
unlawful voters, whether they're dead, illegal, no matter what, the
of somewhere else. And also the NCOA, which is the

(01:02:26):
national the little card you make out when you move,
that's the NCOA database. The state agencies are not allowed
to integrate with that database. So even that one thing
that President Trump is demanding that the agencies do is
just really really helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Carry it out. If Ronald Reagan was here right now,
you know what he'd say about that guy Rick Trader
say well, there you go again, Rick Trader, especially when
I say yes, but again another yes, but Carrie, another yes.
But in Wisconsin last week they had one of these elections. Yes,
eight seventy eight percent, seventy eight percent carried to Alasco.

(01:03:07):
Eighty seven percent of the people voted for voter I D.
But those same people voted on the Supreme Court a
judge who said they believe in anybody can vote. So
some again, whack them all. You get, all right, you
got your voter ID. But then you're going to elect

(01:03:29):
a judge on a Supreme Court. That Supreme Court will
say voter ID is illegal. How do you combat that?
How do you combat these state supreme courts with these
liberal judges saying no, no voter right D, voter IDA
is it's racist, it's discriminatory, it's illegal. How do you

(01:03:50):
battle that battle?

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
Yeah, that was a huge problem. I mean, Wisconsin was
so weird that the spread voted for voter ID and
who voted for Crawford were huge to flip over the ballot.
So if you're a political party and you're doing a
get out of vote event and you're saying vote for
voter I D, you got to aline people to flip
over the other side of the ballot and vote for

(01:04:11):
the Supreme Court justice. But there was a lot going
on there, a lot actually centered around the abortion issue
for those judges. But that we were so flabbergasted, but
not we not so much by the results but by
the variance and the results that was. That was just
why we all looked at each other and said, how
is that possible that you have a thirty point spread?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, that was That was not fun.

Speaker 8 (01:04:36):
Nobody and again again you know this one, that one,
this thing, that thing is bad, this thing, that thing
still needs work. But but we can't forget that there's
really has been great progress. It's it's uh, you know,
it's it's a I wish it were a sprint, but
it's not. It's a marathon. And the more you guys
talk about it, the better it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Well, we talked about it a lot of Voter integrity
is whatever hot spets yea carry. I know that George
Landra has said to you about twenty five minutes, but
can I ask you one more question of you know,
I think we got a problem, not just did in
voter registration and voter ID but it seems like we
have to we have to do whatever we can to

(01:05:17):
make sure that your vote counts, Georgian's counts, my votes counts,
only counts once. It seems like we need more than
just tight voter rolls. We need tighter control of the ballots.
And you know, carry every dollar bill, five dollar bill,
ten dollar bill, twenty dollar bill you pick up has
unique serial number on it. I believe that every ballot

(01:05:41):
should have a unique serial Now about a number one,
not to not to figure out who voted for who,
but to guarantee that that vote is counted and only
counted once. Number two. With the technology today, a fingerprint
or voter ID or DNA, I think there should be
something on the ballot where somebody could put a thumbprint

(01:06:01):
fingerprint again, not to identify how they voted it, but
to make sure that that ballot is only voted one time.
I love the idea that they had in Iraq. Dip
a thumb in a bottle of ink. Let's see them
go home, wash that out and go vote again. And
you know I talked about my dear friend Sharon Angle
and her case with going to a funeral home and

(01:06:22):
finding out eight people were registered to vote there. I
have another very good friend who's a co host here,
that guy George Landrath. And George tells a story, and
I'll let George tell it that he was working a
poll one day and a bus pulled up and George,
can you tell that story to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Carry Yeah, I'll tell it real quick because it runs
for on time. But I was there, as you know,
to help stop a voter fraud in Ohio in the
twenty four election, that's the one with Bush and John
Kerry and this we had a we were giving information
when the bus pulls up, I type in and give
information to that the license number of the bus, and

(01:07:02):
I found out that that bus had just left another
voting place that was five minutes away, five minutes ago,
meaning it didn't stop anywhere to unload the people and
get a new group of voters to come vote at
this precinct. It was the same people. So I jumped
up on the bus and pointed that out that I
knew that was the fact and if they were there
to vote for a second, third, or fourth time, they

(01:07:24):
were committing a crime, and that that was going to
be a problem because we were going to make sure
and enforce the law. And if they hadn't voted yet,
if this was their very first time voting, I did
not want to prevent anyone from voting. I made it
very clear. And then I, you know, they were someone
guy that was on the front but or started shouting
at me about getting off the bus. So I got
off the bus. And then they were having a pretty

(01:07:45):
tense conversation in the bus for about five minutes, and
then the bus pulled off and left because apparently the
people in the bus were like, yeah, you ain't paying
me enough to deal with the possible criminal stuff, So
I'm going home now anyhow, And the buses started slowing
down that day. All morning long, they've been rolling and
we've been doing this, and then by mid afternoon I

(01:08:06):
didn't have any more buses. I had to get on
and give that speech to one last thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
George. How many of these people cut off that bus
to vote, George.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
None, So that doesn't mean that was the first time,
And they may have voted already several times. Right at
eleven o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Carry that's right, go. I think that we need or
that's where I'm going. I think that we need more
integrity than just a voter registration. I think we need
ballot integrity also.

Speaker 8 (01:08:33):
Your thoughts, Oh, yeah, you verify the voter, you verify
the ballot, you verify the count. One of the things
we're looking at, and we have to remember when we
talk about this that it costs municipalities money. So there's
your problem, right, But one of the things we're looking
at there's a couple of vendors who have sent a
sample ballots that are watermarked and they have unique identifiers

(01:08:54):
on them and the only way you can see them
is with a UV light, so you'd have to have
a UV flashlight. It's so sim and so brilliant, but again,
it costs an awful lot of money. There are a
lot of vendors out there, you know, the EAC, the
Election Assistance Commission, is supposed to look at that stuff.
They don't really bother so we're doing it instead. But again,
it's a process. But there are solutions rick out there

(01:09:16):
to what your concern is that there already technical solutions
to that. The question is does the municipality want to
spend the money on a new machine that can need
a UV only And it's it's just what you're saying like,
there's a watermark with a unique identification number. So therefore,
if you don't have that, and you pull the ballots

(01:09:37):
out of your suitcase and bring them in in a
little tub at you know, twelve oh one in Milwaukee,
you're kind of sunk because now not only you don't
even need a human because the machine's not going to
read the ballot, there's nothing you can do about it.
So there are solutions out there. Again, it's you know,
a sort of a time, a time and money issue.
Unfortunately for a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Of is pretty cheap. Carry carry Harry to Alasko. The
Election Integrity Network, Curry, we want to thank you so
much for joining us, but before you go, give us
all the good information. For one one, how people connect
can connect with you, and also the Election Integrity Network.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
I would be delighted to have people to go to
our website, which is who's counting dot us or who's
counting us if they're familiar with mister Stalin who said
it doesn't matter who votes in the ballots, who counts
a ballot, So that's our stick in the eye to
mister Stalin who's counting dot us. We're also at Twitter
at EI Watchdogs, and that's also a great way I

(01:10:44):
do the Twitter, So getting in touch with me is
the same as getting in touch with EI Watchdogs. So
and thank you both for taking the time to really
talk about this. Because everything happens at the ballot box.
If that's one thought, I will leave you with your guns,
your pro life, your tax regulation, everything happens at the
ballot box. So we always feel like it's an issue
that everybody should be concerned about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Curry to Alaska. Again, we want to thank you so
much for joining us. It was great to meet you.
Just we are kindred souls. We are kindred souls, and
as you say, this is such such a huge important issue.
That's why we love talking about it here on Conservative Commanders.
But again, Kerry, thank you so much for joining us.
Take care and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
God bless Thank you same to you.

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Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
George Landreth and I'm Rick Trader coming to you from
the My Pillar Studios and my Stewart Studios of the
a U n TV network. Hey, Georgia, our next guest
is with us, and please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I'm very happy to do that because we always have
the best guests to do a great job of lining
up the best guests on TV and radio, and we
have Stephanie Taub here to prove that. She serves as
the senior Council with First Liberty Institute and they focus
of course, primarily on things like religious liberty, and I
think that's a pretty important thing. After all, it made

(01:15:14):
it in the First Amendment, which I would suggest suggest
our founders saw that as a very high priority. It
didn't make it in that fifty second Amendment. It was
the first one, and so at first liberty. She advocates
for rights of employees and business leaders of faith to
work with integrity and consistent with their religious convictions, because

(01:15:34):
those who hate religion and who hate faith would like
very much to make it hard for people of faith
to operate with freedom and opportunity. And Stephanie has authored
pieces that have been published by a National Review and
the Federal Society, and also has appeared on Fox News
and the Texas Review of Law and Politics published her

(01:15:56):
article on federal employment law protections for faith based employers,
and so she is a really good source on these important,
what you would call high priority First Amendment rights. So, Stephanie,
welcome to the Conservative Commandos. We're very glad to have you.

Speaker 13 (01:16:14):
Thank you so much for having me on your show.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
I used to teach constitutional law at George Mason, and
I went to the University of Virginia Law School and
so forth, and I kind of find it weird that
people seem not to grasp that the Constitution laid out
some very important inaliable rights, as Jefferson referred to them,
and that those enalable rights are not up for a vote.

(01:16:37):
We vote in our society and all kinds of things.
We vote on policy questions and things like that, but
what we don't vote on is our enalable rights. In
other words, your right to free speech, your right to
freedom of religion, your right, for example, to a fair trial.
Those are things that are not subject to votes. And
that's what makes us a very special place. And yet

(01:16:57):
some people act like, well, that's not very democratic. It's
kind of like, well, actually, our founders wanted to make
sure that we were put a bigger emphasis on freedom,
and so we weren't going to vote on whether or
not the church you choose to go to, or whether
you choose to go to church or not go to
church is an acceptable choice by the majority. So I

(01:17:18):
want to ask you to help fill us in on
all of this, because I think the Trump administration has
signaled to us that it's a pro First Amendment, pro
religious freedom administration.

Speaker 13 (01:17:31):
That is absolutely right and very well put.

Speaker 14 (01:17:34):
One of the wonderful things about the Trump administration is
that they are really cracking down on DEI initiatives, and
especially the DEI initiatives that have gone so far as
to violate our rights, not only our constitutional rights, but
also our statutory rights, because it's very important that the

(01:17:55):
Constitution isn't our only protection for our religious liberty. We
also have the federal law protects us from religious discrimination
in employment, for example, and so what we're seeing is
companies across the countries using these DEI initiatives to crack

(01:18:15):
down on employees of faith who might have different perspectives
on controversial issues these days. And so it's really encouraging
to see the Trump administration respecting religious liberty and cracking
down on these illegal uses of these policies.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
That's very interesting because when you hear the left talk
about DEI, they make it sound like they're trying to
promote constitutional freedoms and liberties and make sure we get
rid of things that are unfair. And yet I think
that's clearly not the case because they're promoting you like,
as you said, it sounds like DII initiatives in some
case actually go after people who have faith, and that's

(01:18:55):
a part of their life, and instead of being tolerant
of them, it basically says, yeah, we're not going to
tolerating that, We're going to punish you for your faith.
And so is that fair? Am I mischaracterizing it?

Speaker 11 (01:19:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:19:07):
I think it can depend on the company, but I
think that's fair. We've definitely seen that these sorts of
policies can come with sometimes embrace of radical gender ideology,
for example, that can conflict with quite a few people's
as people of faith. They're religious convictions, and so companies
need to remember that they have an obligation obligation under

(01:19:29):
the law to respect employees of faith and to grant
reasonable religious accommodations were required.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
I wanted to ask you about this one because I've
seen that, you know, several states have tried to pass
laws in I think they just recently didn't Colorado, which basically,
if you have a child who tells you they think they're,
you know, the other gender than what they were born as,
if you don't go along with that, then they will
take away your parental rights and remove the child from

(01:19:57):
your home and so forth. And I'm thinking myself that
strikes me as blatantly unconstitutional, and that strikes me as
something that to be very blunt. If some were to
show up at my house claiming they're going to take
my child from me because I didn't go with the
he she thing, I think I would actually be prepared
to defend my child and my family because them coming

(01:20:20):
in and saying that they're going to take my child.
It's kind of like in Nazi Germany if someone if
a Nazi came to my house and said, I understand
that you don't hate Jews enough, so we're taking your
kids from you, I'd be like, sorry, come back later.
And so I'm trying to figure out is what's going
on with this because this is just nuts. It's like,
how is it that we can live in a society

(01:20:41):
where people want to basically tell parents, we can take
your children from you because we don't like your faith
based way of seeing the world.

Speaker 14 (01:20:50):
There are so many issues right now in this in
this area, with these conflicts where fortunately the Supreme Court
has taken up some similar not quite that case, but
some similar cases having to do with parental rights when
it comes to educating, educating children, when it comes to
receiving counseling, those sorts of those sorts of very important issues.

(01:21:12):
So we're hopeful that the Supreme Court will grant positive
precedents that will help restore religious liberty, help restore freedom
of speech in these really crucial areas.

Speaker 13 (01:21:23):
So it doesn't come to any of any of So didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Come to that, well, I agree, because I don't want
to sound like I'm supporting or interested in seeing violence happen,
because I'm not. I just I'm just saying though that
I do think that there's a point at which and
I think it's part of our founders recognize that one
of the things you wanted to do was make sure
that totalitarians understood that they might have to confront people

(01:21:51):
who would be in a position to push back at them.
And I think it's important that, as you know, people
who believe in freedom and opportunity, that when govern tries
to take our freedom, we do have to push back,
and hopefully we can just push back at the ballot box.
That's what I would hope. But you know, if I
lived in Germany during World War Two, that wasn't gonna work.

(01:22:13):
And so you know, if I lived in Germany, I'd
have been very happy to use violence to stop the
Nazis from rounding up all the people they hated and
wanted to kill, because at some point I'd be like,
I'm not going to participate in this. And I don't
care if the government claims it's legitimate. If it's doing this,

(01:22:33):
it's not.

Speaker 13 (01:22:36):
And I mean, as you.

Speaker 14 (01:22:38):
Said earlier in the segment, that there is a reason
why religious liberty is our first liberty in the in
the Bill of Rights. This is a really this is foundational,
the right to be able to worship and to live
in accordance with your faith, consistent with your convictions. And
if you have a government that's routinely aresting people, routinely

(01:23:01):
calling on people to violate their most deeply held tenants,
this is unsustainable. And so this is the reason why
freedom of speech freedom of religion are so crucial.

Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
And in.

Speaker 14 (01:23:15):
Governments that eventually fall or become totalitarian, freedom of religion
is usually the first to fall.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah, in freedom of speech, you're exactly right, because if
you're totalitarian, you don't want people to have the ability
to think on their own. And that people who love
big government don't like people of faith because people of
faith generally put God first, not government first, and people
who believe in big government want government first in all instances.

(01:23:45):
And you saw that, for example, in communist China, you
saw that in communist Russia, So the Union, you've seen
that in. You know, in every totalitarian regime sees religion
as something that stands between them and power. And I
would say the same thing with free speech. So you
make a very very good point, and I'm glad that

(01:24:07):
you're a champion of freedom and a champion of the
First Amendment because we need more of those nowadays. Did
it used to be like this? This used to be
something that everybody agreed on. It used to be that
left and right agreed on things like freedom of speech,
freedom of religions, etc. And something has happened in the
last generation where that's no longer the case, and it
worries me.

Speaker 14 (01:24:28):
Yeah, you see some statistics when they pull I don't
have them off the top of my head, but pulling
some of the generation z about freedom of speech issues,
and they're a lot more in favor of censorship than
I would have ever guessed.

Speaker 13 (01:24:43):
And that really is scary.

Speaker 14 (01:24:46):
But there have been some positive signs too, maybe a
resurgence of faith or a resurgence in the generation that's
coming after them, So we're in Generation Z and hopefully
the generation that's coming after them.

Speaker 13 (01:25:00):
So we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yeah, well that's a great place for us to take
a quick break. We'll handle a little bit of business here, folks,
But don't go away, because the Conservative Commander is Rick Trader,
George Landorth and our special guest Stephanie Tau will be
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Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Now, welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders with
George Landerth and I'm Rick Trader coming to you from
the Mypillar Studios and My Story Studios of the aun
TV network. Our guest's segment is Stephanie Tabbs. She's the
senior counselor with First Liberty Institute and Stephanie, thank you
for holding through that break we really do appreciate your time. Now,

(01:28:37):
you've read an article that's appeared on I Believe on
the Hill, and in this article you talk about a
case that First Liberty is involved with with two employees
of Alaskan Airlines who lost their jobs lost their jobs
because they stood up to their company. Could you explain

(01:28:59):
that case for us please?

Speaker 13 (01:29:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:29:02):
So we represent Lazy Smith and Marley Brown, two exceptional
flight attendants who used to work for Alaskan Airlines. But
when Alaskan Airlines put up a post on their internal
company website about how Alaska supports that proposed a Quality Act?

(01:29:22):
Are my clients Marlee and Lacey? They posted one comment
each just respectfully expressing their Christian beliefs. One of them asked,
as a company, do you think it's possible to regulate morality?
And the other one asked about the implications on religious freedom,
on the church and in particular on women's spaces when

(01:29:45):
they're being opened up by the potential Equality Act. And
so because of these two comments, they were investigated, they
were suspended, and then they were ultimately fired.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Did they get to process within the company? Was their hearing?

Speaker 6 (01:30:01):
Did this?

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
I know you're first celebrity as representing them. But was
it that cut and dry? Look, you put up these posts.
We didn't like it. It doesn't follow what this company
is looking to do here with DEI and you're gone, ladies.

Speaker 14 (01:30:17):
I mean, it strikes me as that cut and dry.
We have the Uh, it's a great question about due process.
So we have the We all were also assuming the
union that was supposed to be representing Marley and Lacy,
the union president reported them to the company.

Speaker 13 (01:30:35):
But this is these are union.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
As you say, I'm sorry, it didn't mean to interrupt.
I was you shocked that the union, who's who they
paid dues to, that they are members of, who's supposed
to represent their best interests, reported them to the company.

Speaker 13 (01:30:53):
Yes, yeah, that's absolutely right.

Speaker 14 (01:30:55):
So the union reported them to the company, and then
on the day they're fired, they published an articles saying
that employees can't use your protected class as a basis
to discriminate, so very very thinly veiled comments advocating against
against Marley and lazy on even when they're supposed to
be still in the process of representing them before their grievance.

(01:31:18):
So it's not only the company, it's also the union.
That are engaging in religious discrimination here?

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
What is Lazy and Marlee looking to get out of it?
Are they looking for a financial settlement? Are they looking
for their jobs back? Are they looking to set a
standard for other employees? What are the goals?

Speaker 14 (01:31:40):
It's about the principle of the thing. So this is
what they've gone through, no one else should have to
go through. And it is a devastating effect on our clients,
their health.

Speaker 13 (01:31:53):
Their ability to continue, and it's still difficult to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
So this is a.

Speaker 13 (01:32:01):
So this is a they're standing up not only.

Speaker 14 (01:32:04):
For themselves, but also for other employees across the country
that are facing similar situations. So right now we're currently
on appeal at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and
hopefully we'll get a positive outcome that says that these
companies cannot discriminate against you. They can't fire you simply
for holding traditional Christian or religious beliefs on these sorts

(01:32:26):
of issues. This seems to me bee blatant, blatant religious discrimination.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Sephanie said, it's under appeal. So is there already one trial?
The other thing that you mentioned that makes my eyes
roll is the Nice Circuit.

Speaker 14 (01:32:45):
Yes, so Ninth circuit is over California, it's over Washington,
it's over the West coast, and it does have quite
a reputation there there are so it does. It does
depend quite a lot on what judges you get for it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Wow. Yeah, that's unfair. I'll tell you what else is
unfair to Stephanie. If I'm looking at this right, if
I'm reading it correctly, this all took place in two
thousand and twenty twenty one, so that's like four years ago.
What are these two? What's Marlee and stays Lacey? What

(01:33:22):
have they been doing in the past four years?

Speaker 14 (01:33:26):
So one of them has moved to an airline that
is more respectful of her religious freedom, which is wonderful.
So she's a flight still a flight attendant, and the
other is currently a mom.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Well, you know, Stephanie, I know you gotta go. We
you have you have to leave it shortly. But it's
what really bothers me is this idea of separate separation
of church and state. We here on the au N
TV network have been running a short video from the

(01:34:00):
Wall Builders where they talked about the first Bible in
America was sponsored help sponsored by Congress to get Bibles
in school, and for years, for decades, we've been having
this argument about separation of church and state. And I'm

(01:34:24):
wondering if you had any comment on that.

Speaker 14 (01:34:27):
Yeah, So we do see that phrase being misused, unfortunately,
and used to often to justify or sometimes government officials
mistakenly think that they need to censor any sort of
mention of religion in the public square, and so that
can lead them to go way too far and to
infringe on free exercise rights of teachers, of students, of employees.

(01:34:54):
And so we do see that all the time from
just this mistaken understanding because the as you I'm sure
you know, that letter comes from a letter from Jefferson
to the Danbury Baptist Church and where the Jefferson was
encouraging the church and saying, no, the government's not going
to come and invade your sacred space. But here it's

(01:35:18):
being twisted to be somehow a requirement to scrub the
public sphere from anything that's religious. And so that's unfortunate.
But we are seeing good outcomes in the Supreme Court
correcting this understanding. It might take some time to filter
through the lower courts and popular understanding, but we are
seeing positive.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Developments Stephanie tell senior counsel with Fort Celebrity is to Stephanie.
We want to thank you for joining us today. But
before you go, please tell our listeners and viewers how
they can follow the work of the First Liberty Institute
and find out more about this case.

Speaker 14 (01:35:58):
Yes, you can follow this case and all of our
other cases at Firstliberty dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
First Liberty dot Org. Again, Stephanie, thank you so much
for joining us. Take care, God bless and you are
listening to and watching the Conservative Commanders with George Landrath
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Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
And welcome back, Welcome back to your Conservative command as
with George Landrath and I'm Rick Trader, coming to you
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a U n TV network. Well, George, Election Day, you
know it's been happening for the last two weeks. Early
Election Tuesday. The country is going to the polls today.

(01:40:08):
Cup three really really big races, one up in New
York City, one down in years Commonwealth of Virginia, the
other in my state of New Jersey. And George, let's
do just a minute or so in each race.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Sure. Well. One of the things I think is interesting
is in New Jersey, it's generally viewed as a Democratic state,
and yet right now the polls suggest that it's a
dead heat and that the Republican could very well win
because apparently a number of Democrats have come out and
endorsed him and said enough of the craziness of the

(01:40:44):
other side. So it's interesting to me because I believe
in the power of the people to vote, but I'm
always hoping they'll be wise and how they cast their votes.
And it sounds like a lot of New Jerseyans are saying,
I don't think I want to vote for the left
wing Cooke talk and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
Talk about the left wing Cooke. She's been in Washington
for the last six years, so all the bad news
that's come out of Washington as Mikey Sheryl's fingerprints on it.
Georgia very interesting race, then in your I'm in wealth Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean we've got wins and sars running.
She is a black woman and she's a conservative. She
serves currently with Glenn Youngkin. She's the lieutenant governor. Of
course he's the governor, and she's running now for governor
because in Virginia you can't run for governor for a
second term unless you've set out for a year mean

(01:41:43):
or fees me for a term. You can't run as
an incumbent under our constitution. In Virginia. So she's running
with his support. And what's interesting was for most of
the year, polling suggested that she was down by you know,
close to double digit nine, ten, eleven, twelve points, and
now all of a sudden, the Poles says she's in

(01:42:04):
a dead heat. And I think that it's very what
the one interesting thing about that is is that when
Glen Youngkin ran, he was supposedly down by two or
three points going into election day, and he managed to
win by two or three points. And so I'm wondering
if that doesn't mean that when some seers might not
win because she's in a dead heat and so she's

(01:42:27):
a little closer to victory than Glen Youngkin was. And
it's very interesting to me because you know, one she'd
be the very first black woman elected to be a
governor of any state in the entire country. And guess
what this would be that capital of the state that
was the capital of the Confederacy. And so to me,

(01:42:49):
that's a very very important development because what it shows
is that people who want to act like, oh yeah
in the South are all a bunch of racists. It's like,
I guess not because they were the first ones. We
also elected Doug Wilder back in the eighties to be
governor of Virginia, and he was black. And so it's

(01:43:09):
just interesting to me that we are seeing this sort
of ideological advantage. And I'm hoping that she wins because
she's a very, very committed conservative. She is also a
very rational, reasonable person. If you listen to her talk,
she doesn't sound like an egghead or anything like that.
She actually sounds like she knows what she's doing, whereas

(01:43:32):
her opponent, Abigail Spanberger, sounds like an idiot when she talks. Well,
I didn't even answer the question she's asked.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
Spamberger wouldn't even condemn a candidate who called for the
killing of a of an elected for official in Virginia
and his kids. And she stood there and wouldn't condemn that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Yeah, she still endorses him. She just says, I'm not
comfortable with what he said. Yeah, but he's a really
good guy and I endorse him. That's interesting. So I'm
just trying to think, how many good guys do you
know that walk around talking about killing people and their children.
Not very many, ye say, I would say the answer
is zero. I've never met anybody who has acted like

(01:44:19):
killing somebody they don't like. You know, it's one thing
to say, I would like if somebody broke into your
home and was going to try to harm your wife
and children, Sure you might be willing to kill them
to protect your family. But that's not what this guy
was doing. This guy was saying he wanted to kill
somebody who was a political opponent just because he disagreed

(01:44:39):
with him, so he wanted to kill him. And he well,
it wasn't enough to kill him. He wanted to put
two bullets in his head, he said, But he also
wanted to kill his children in his wife's arms. And
I'm thinking to myself, Yeah, that disqualifies you from me.
A good man, Absolutely not a good man. You're a
piece of crap.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
Well, George tells us how you really feel. But another
race that the country's really watching is the the the
mayor's race in New York City, and jewsh what shocks
me about this race? After nine to eleven. Remember, the
motto was we will never forget, but obviously, obviously New

(01:45:21):
Yorkers I forgot because just twenty four years after nine
to eleven, they're about to elect a radical Muslim, not
just a radical Muslim, but a Muslim who hates America,
hates Jews, and hates Christians. They're about to elect this.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
Man may Yeah, exactly, he's also a communist. You know,
he admits he's a socialist, but he if you look
at him, he is he's actually a communist. And it's
not just a few people who say that. There was
actually a study done by a group of historians who
basically said he aligns with communists. And so I'm thinking

(01:46:01):
to myself, yeah, exactly, I noticed the same thing. And
so and he admits that he's a socialist, but all
he's trying to do is probably hide the hardcore Communism
in him, but not real heart, not real easy for
him to do that because if you look carefully at
his rhetoric and what he's.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Done and how you know, well, even his mother admits
he's not an American, that his heart is Ugandan. That's
and that's the man the New York City is about
to elect Mayorage. Well, George, it's going to be an
interesting experiment. It's going to be an interesting four years

(01:46:40):
in New York City. But I'll tell you one thing, George,
as long as he Mayor is mayor. I'm not going
to step foot in New York. I'm absolutely not going
to step foot in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
That's that's my will not be a safe place. If
you do, will not be, It'll come. It'll make Chicago
look like a safe place. If he's the mayor.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Incredible, Well, George, I want to thank you for sitting
in today as my co host your book Frontiers of Freedom.
Give us the skinny.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
Sure, well, here's my book. You can see it right here.
Let freedom ring again. And one of the purposes of
this book is to help people understand about our heritage,
the constitutional heritage, the heritage from the Declaration of Independence,
those kinds of things. And I talk about a lot
of I think, you know, influential people since then. I

(01:47:32):
refer to them as when people talk and sound like
they are perhaps aligned with our founders, then they're pretty
good sources. An example, one of the ones I pointed
out that you know, Reagan sounded like that, but guess what,
so did Martin Luther King. Martin Luther King could have
been an angry American who acted like America stinks because

(01:47:54):
it didn't always treat him fairly, and yet his speeches
he always talked about the importance the Constitution, the wisdom
of the Declaration of Independence, and his attitude was we
need to fix America by getting back to the Constitution,
by getting back to the Declaration of Independence, not by
abandoning them. And so that demonstrates to me that he

(01:48:16):
was an American who cared about America. And so I
talk about him in one of the chapters of my book,
because my goal is to point out that we need
to listen to how people talk, and if they act
like the Constitution of the United States is the problem,
then they're the problem. If they act like the Constitution
is a great blessing and that it leads us towards

(01:48:38):
freedom and opportunity for all, and that it's led our
nation in that direction as long as we're willing to
follow it, then it seems to me that you're talking
to somebody who actually wants to lead America in the
right direction. But anyhow, there's lots of economics in there,
there's lots of studies in there about things like what
happened during the pandemic except but hopefully it's a book

(01:49:02):
that people who care about Freedmam Opportunity will enjoy reading
it will help them understand how to argue for freedom
and opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
Right again, George, thanks for sitting in to thank our guest.
But for right now, we are at a time that
means that we got to run it. We got to
go take care of Godless, and we're going to see
it tomorrow and that's going to be a DVN on radio.

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