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11-3-25 Conservative Commandos: The Future Of Fair And Honest Elections Depends On Bold Leadership by Sharron Angle
In a previous article, I discussed Executive Order 14248 which contains the following
elements that put “teeth” into enforcing election integrity laws in Nevada and across the
nation.
1. Voter Roll Maintenance (Cleaning Voter Rolls): EO 14248 Section 2(b)(iii) requires
federal review of voter rolls, citing 52 U.S.C. §20507 (NVRA), and HAVA §303(a)(2)(A)
mandating states make a “reasonable effort” to remove ineligible voters. The Executive
Order directs the Federal Attorney General to act against states failing to clean their rolls.
2. Proof of Citizenship for Voter Registration: EO 14248 Section 2(a)(i–ii) requires
documentary proof of U.S. citizenship. NVRA currently allows self-attestation of
citizenship under penalty of perjury — applicants must check a box and sign but not show
documentation.
3. Inactive Voter Waiting Periods: The EO does not shorten or bypass the two-federalelections
(NVRA and HAVA) waiting periods before a voter can be purged. It directs the DOJ
to enforce list maintenance procedures.
4. Federal Databases for Voter Eligibility Verification: EO 14248 Section 2(b–c), 3(a)
requires federal agencies (DHS, SSA, State, DoD) to give states access to immigration,
death, and ID records to cross-check voter rolls. HAVA §303 allows registration matches
with DMV, SSA, and death records.
5. Election Day Deadlines: EO Section 7 mandates ballots must be received by Election
Day, based on 2 U.S.C. §7 and 3 U.S.C. §1. Nevada’s Constitution Article 15 Section 5
defines Election Day and where NRS conflicts, the state Constitution is the ultimate
authority.
6. Blocking Biden’s Executive Order 14019: EO 14248 Section 9 halts implementation by
voter registration by Federal Agencies.
7. Voting System Standards and Security: EO Section 4(b) requires paper ballots and
disallows encoded-only barcodes. HAVA mandates voting system standards, including
voter-verifiable audit trails.
After the executive order was signed, Nevada’s present Secretary of State, Francisco
Aguilar said: “This Executive Order…is a federal overreach on the duties and obligations of
the states.” He noted that Nevada has no evidence of widespread fraud. Those who oppose
election integrity efforts often deny or diminish election crimes. (I wrote about this in the
Angle Examiner available free on my website VoteSharronAngle.com)
In a joint press release with Nevada Attorney General Aaron Ford, Aguilar said: “The Trump
administration’s executive order on elections is an unlawful attempt to grab power from
both the states and Congress. The United States Constitution is clear: states have primary
responsibility for the administration of elections.” Given his rhetoric, Aguilar is signaling
that he will not comply with or help enforce Trump’s order acting in coordination with the
Nevada Attorney General to block key provisions of the executive order. He does not
address the provisions of existing law or the Executive Order only repeating a “political
soundbite” about “power grabs” of what he perceives to be his authority.
The future of free, honest, and fair elections depends on bold leadership and enforcing the
election laws that secure our vote. President Trump has set the standard with his Executive
Order. I have a proven record of boldly standing for the rule of law and the Constitution.
That’s why I’m running for Nevada Secretary of State.
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11-3-25 Conservative Commandos: The Future Of Fair And Honest Elections Depends On Bold Leadership by Sharron Angle
In a previous article, I discussed Executive Order 14248 which contains the following
elements that put “teeth” into enforcing election integrity laws in Nevada and across the
nation.
1. Voter Roll Maintenance (Cleaning Voter Rolls): EO 14248 Section 2(b)(iii) requires
federal review of voter rolls, citing 52 U.S.C. §20507 (NVRA), and HAVA §303(a)(2)(A)
mandating states make a “reasonable effort” to remove ineligible voters. The Executive
Order directs the Federal Attorney General to act against states failing to clean their rolls.
2. Proof of Citizenship for Voter Registration: EO 14248 Section 2(a)(i–ii) requires
documentary proof of U.S. citizenship. NVRA currently allows self-attestation of
citizenship under penalty of perjury — applicants must check a box and sign but not show
documentation.
3. Inactive Voter Waiting Periods: The EO does not shorten or bypass the two-federalelections
(NVRA and HAVA) waiting periods before a voter can be purged. It directs the DOJ
to enforce list maintenance procedures.
4. Federal Databases for Voter Eligibility Verification: EO 14248 Section 2(b–c), 3(a)
requires federal agencies (DHS, SSA, State, DoD) to give states access to immigration,
death, and ID records to cross-check voter rolls. HAVA §303 allows registration matches
with DMV, SSA, and death records.
5. Election Day Deadlines: EO Section 7 mandates ballots must be received by Election
Day, based on 2 U.S.C. §7 and 3 U.S.C. §1. Nevada’s Constitution Article 15 Section 5
defines Election Day and where NRS conflicts, the state Constitution is the ultimate
authority.
6. Blocking Biden’s Executive Order 14019: EO 14248 Section 9 halts implementation by
voter registration by Federal Agencies.
7. Voting System Standards and Security: EO Section 4(b) requires paper ballots and
disallows encoded-only barcodes. HAVA mandates voting system standards, including
voter-verifiable audit trails.
After the executive order was signed, Nevada’s present Secretary of State, Francisco
Aguilar said: “This Executive Order…is a federal overreach on the duties and obligations of
the states.” He noted that Nevada has no evidence of widespread fraud. Those who oppose
election integrity efforts often deny or diminish election crimes. (I wrote about this in the
Angle Examiner available free on my website VoteSharronAngle.com)
In a joint press release with Nevada Attorney General Aaron Ford, Aguilar said: “The Trump
administration’s executive order on elections is an unlawful attempt to grab power from
both the states and Congress. The United States Constitution is clear: states have primary
responsibility for the administration of elections.” Given his rhetoric, Aguilar is signaling
that he will not comply with or help enforce Trump’s order acting in coordination with the
Nevada Attorney General to block key provisions of the executive order. He does not
address the provisions of existing law or the Executive Order only repeating a “political
soundbite” about “power grabs” of what he perceives to be his authority.
The future of free, honest, and fair elections depends on bold leadership and enforcing the
election laws that secure our vote. President Trump has set the standard with his Executive
Order. I have a proven record of boldly standing for the rule of law and the Constitution.
That’s why I’m running for Nevada Secretary of State.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow Patriots, Welcome, fellow plurb rules,
Welcome all of your dresses. Society of Rock to Willows.
You're sick, offense, you sinkers, you're mega Nazis, you offul
awful people, but you know we think of you as friends,
allies and patriots and you're always welcome here. And this
place is the Conservative Commando's Radio show, and I'm Rick Trader,
(00:43):
coming to you from the my Pillar studios and my
Store studios of the a UN TV network. And joining
me today as my co host is the patriot from
the battleground state, the battle born state, the Silver state
of Nevada, and that is Sharon Angling. Sharon, welcome back,
Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Thank you so much. Rick, It's great to be here.
And I guess I wanted to start out the show
with my favorite topic, which is always election integrity and
what they're doing with the president's executive order. You know,
he had an executive order put out with seven points
(01:26):
and they're they're really nothing. I mean, the points are
already there in the law. That's the thing that really
gets you. And now the judges have decided to rule
against his executive order. There's no there there, So I
guess I wanted to go through first of all the.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Stuff currently seven points, and then I wanted to know
what judges again? Is it these low level district court judges?
Once again? See, I really think that the Supreme Court
needs to be ready to step in on these rulings automatically.
(02:07):
You know, like tomorrow at the Supreme Court they're going
to discuss Trump's tars at the Supreme Court. All right now,
I don't know how long this has been in the course,
but the Supreme Court needs to step in on this
all the time. And you're going to tell us the
seven points, and you already told us that these seven
points are already in the law. So where are these
(02:29):
judges coming from?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, and when you when you look at it, you'll see,
you know, okay, maybe maybe this much, they've got room
to do this. But really the first point is voter
roll maintenance. Clean up the voter rolls. This is no
Brier Executive Order one four two four eight, right, and
(02:54):
it's in his executive order, but already in PAVA I
Help America Vote Act and NVRA, which is the National
Voter Registration Act already they say that they must make
a reasonable effort to remove ineligible voters. So the executive
(03:14):
order just directs the Attorney General to act against vote
the states that aren't cleaning up their roles. So that's
all he does. He says, enforce that law, the one
they're already there. Just enforce it, right. The second point
of the executive order is that they must prove that
(03:35):
they are a citizen. Aready already in NVRA it says
they must self attest under penalty of perjury to be citizens.
So they they already have to check the box saying
I'm a citizen. The only difference is right now they
don't have to show documentation, but with the executive order,
(03:58):
they do. They have to show documentary proof that they're
a US citizen if they have, if they are coming
from a foreign country, they have to show that. Now
your smart I D or.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Whatever they what is that?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
The the one that you have to have to get
on the airplane. It's not smart, but I think everybody
I can't think of there there real real your real ID.
The reason I call it smart is because encoded within
(04:36):
that real ID is your proof of citizenship. So if
you have a real id. It shows whether or not
you are. But honestly, to get a real idea, you
have to be a citizen. So you know there's there's that.
The third thing is the end active voter waiting periods.
(04:57):
The Executive of Murder doesn't shorten bypass the two federal
election laws that waiting periods before the voter can be purged,
so it just says enforce this. There is a long
waiting period. You have to miss at least one election
(05:17):
before they can send you a postcard saying we noticed
you didn't vote. Are you still here? If they fail
to answer that, then you wait for the next election,
and if they don't vote again, then you send them
(05:39):
another card that says we noticed you didn't vote in
two elections. Please respond to we're taking you off the
active role and putting you on the inactive role. Then
they have to be on the inactive role before they
can and have missed those two two more elections basically,
(06:01):
so it's six elections altogether. You haven't voted for six years,
So three elections six years. You haven't voted for six years.
They can finally say we're removing you, and at any
time you can come back and say, wait a second,
don't remove me. I just haven't voted, but I'm going
to vote now. So Sharon just put them on an
(06:23):
inactive list, and all the executive Varder says is to
enforce that law. Don't wait, Sharon.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know me, I always vote right at my courthouse
using an absentee ballot. Well, when I went down there
last week to vote, guess what I was on the
inactive voter list. You know what I voted in the
last election. I voted in the last election, which was
the presidential election. I didn't vote in the primary election
(06:52):
because I don't I don't associate myself with the Republican
Party per se. You know, I usually vote Reportuplican, but
I'm not I'm not registered as a Republican, Okay, but
I end up on the inactive list. I ended up
on the inactive list. And last year was a presidential election,
(07:14):
and you know, Rick Trader did not miss the presidential
election classified as an act.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So it's there is a there is a disconnect here
on who gets on the inactive list. But generally speaking,
it's kind of difficult to get on the inactive list.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So not for me, not for you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Not for rec Trader. No, okay. So we're discussing the
sixth Executive Order one four two four eight, which is
Trump's executive order on election integrity. The fourth provision is
that voter databases for voter eligibility verification requires the federal
(07:58):
agencies to give state across states access to immigration lists,
deathless identification records, those kinds of things. LAVA will help
America Vote Act just suggested that they could do that
(08:18):
if they wanted to, so that they could they could
go to other lists and see if someone had died
or you know, just do those registration matches with other lists,
which is helpful to decide where a person is, if
they died, where they were, did they get naturalized, those
(08:38):
kinds of things. And so it's just a suggestion in
the national law, and Trump said, no, we're going to
make it. So they required these federal agencies to share
their information. The fifth provision is election date deadlines. So
this he man dates that all ballots must be received
(09:03):
by election day, and in fact, we have an election
day here in in Nevada, and he based this all
day ballots must be received by election day based on
(09:23):
our laws federally as well, and based on some codes
that tell you when election day is, and it's been
there for hundreds of years now. The sixth provision is
to block Biden's executive order which implemented voter registration across
(09:45):
the federal agency. So anytime you go into a federal agency,
you get reregistered, and it's automatic. We have automatic registration
here at our DMV. Every time you make call to
the DMV, you get reregistered. And then the registrar or
(10:07):
the county clerk hast to mail out and say did
you want to be registered? Well, some people have religious
you know, like Jehovah witnesses, don't want to be registered
to vote. They don't vote. It's against their religion. So
they get irritated because now they're registered again and they
have to go in and unregistered. And every time they
(10:31):
make a trip to the Department of More Vehicles, this
happens to them autouomatically. They can't they don't have any
opt in or opt out say so at the DMV.
It just automatically happens. And Biden wanted to do that
across all federal agencies. So anytime you went to visit
the IRS or you know, the welfare officer or anything
(10:55):
that has to do with federal There you are automatically registered.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The problem with Joe Biden's there is anybody goes to
the DMV gets registered, even non citizens.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
The fillains you know, people that have had their citizenship
there rights revoked. Like I said, there's religious reasons, there's
there's just plain personal reasons why you don't want to
be on that voter registration rule. So anyway, uh, he
revoked that, So he's blocked that said, that's not going
(11:34):
to happen. And then the seventh one is that the
voting System Standards and security requires a paper ballot and
this allows encoded only barcodes. Help America Vote Act mandates
that the voting system standards include voter verifiable audit trails. Well,
what he's doing is providing the audit trail, which is
(11:56):
that has to be on paper, so that if you
have to go back and do a recount, you don't
have to use whatever the machine told you. You actually
can see the ballot. And the way they have it
set up now in Nevada and many states are going
to this is that you go to a machine and
(12:19):
you do it like you did. You check all of
the boxes that you want to vote for, and then
it prints out a ballot. You look at that printed
ballot to make sure that all the boxes that you
checked are the ones that you want. So it's basically
a printer. It is what it is. You take that
printed ballot to a tabulator and you slip it into
(12:42):
the tabulator and you watch it count your votes on
that machine. If for some reason you need to have
a handcount or verify the votes that went to a
certain election, every one of those ballots is there and
you can actually see the paper ballot and people can
(13:06):
actually count it. So they are getting to that place
where they can they can provide a very secure and
give confidence to you that you know, I got my ballot,
I cast my ballot. And none of these are hooked
up to the internet, these machines, and so hopefully this
(13:28):
time through we will have less question about what's going
to happen in our roles, but I mean in our elections.
But now back to what the court did. So, a
federal judge walked his efforts to protect election integrity by
(13:50):
requiring proof of United States citizenship on voter registration forms,
finding that Trump lacks the authority to direct such changes. Remember,
he didn't make a change in the federal law with
regard to this. The for A law says you have
to be a citizen to vote. The JAVA or Help
(14:13):
America Vote Act and the National Voter Registration Act say
that you have to attest to it. You have to say,
under penalty of perjury, that you are a citizen before
you will be allowed to vote. All Trump said is
that instead of just taking your word for it, we
(14:33):
want to see documentary proof. We want to make sure
that you really are a citizen. Provide your documentary proof,
which is a birth certificate, passport. You know, there are
all kinds of documentary proofs that you.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Think that everyone should have anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And you put those on file and you're good to go.
But what he's saying is basically he's saying, I think
you might lie to me, and in fact we probably
have good evidence. In fact, we have some proof. Even
in the battle. We had a case about twelve years
ago now where an illegal alien had voted in every
(15:11):
election and what they finally caught her doing was voting.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Twice and as citizen, make a citizens arrest if they
noticed somebody has voted illegally.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
They can, but you know the citizens arrest. Yeah, well,
a citizens arrest is always verified by the police.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
All right, let's get that break in and you are
listening to the Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angle. I'm Rick Trader.
We're talking about voting, voting rights and what rights you
shouldn't have, especially if you're a non citizens. And today's
showed like each and every one of our shows being
brought to you by the First Amendment protected by the second.
(15:57):
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go to break and we'll be right back.
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Speaker 1 (17:41):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders with
Sharon Engel and I'm Rick Trader, coming to you from
the Michaelis Studios and My Store studios of the a
U n TV Network. In the first segment, Sharon and
I were talking about voter integrity, how Donald Trump has
been suited again by one of these district judges will
(18:04):
start trying to stop his executive orders, and Sharon, we
left off with citizens arrest. Can I, as a citizen
arrest someone who has voted illegally tell us about citizens arrest?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, it varies from state to state, so I just
looked up in my state, but I think that there
are probably similar requirements. It says that in Nevada, citizens
arrest is legal under specific conditions. So that's the thing
that makes me think that each state is going to
(18:41):
have a specific condition for a public offense committed or
attempted in a person's presence. This means that if you
witness someone committing your crime, you can detain them until
law enforcement arrives when a felony has been committed, even
if not in the person's presence. If you have a
(19:03):
reasonable cause to believe that a felony has occurred and
that person you are entertaining is the perpetrator, you can
also make that arrest, but you have to wait until
law enforcement arrives. And for misdemeanors or gross misdemeanors. You
can only arrest someone for these offense if you've witnessed
the crime being committed, so a felony. You know, I
(19:26):
think we're using this specifically for voting purposes. If you
commit some kind of voting crime, that would be a felony,
So under that you would you could make that arrest,
and then that you'd have to wait till law enforcement arrives.
(19:48):
You can only use force necessary to detain the subjects,
so you can't use force if you're not wanting to
detain them. Deadly force is not permitted unless you are
acting in self defense, so you can't, you know, pull
(20:09):
a gun on him, I guess, but I'm not a lawyer,
so I'm not sure what constitutes steadily forced. If a
citizen's arrest is deemed unlawful, the person making the arrest
could face criminal charges or civil liability. This includes potential
(20:30):
restitution payments to the person who has unlawfully detained. Therefore,
it is crucial tossert sure that the arrest is justified
under the law. So what they're saying is you better
make sure that they actually did the crime, or you
then will be punished for detaining them illegally well shared.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I also looked up citizens arrested in Jersey. Was very
similar to what you read. But then I looked up
citizens arrest in New Jersey of voting crimes. What I
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(21:17):
legal risks. The safest course of action is to have
observed the situation, report it immediately to a law enforcement
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That kind of makes sense. But you know what, Sharon,
if you see somebody voting who you know is not
(21:42):
legally voting for maybe even you suspect that this person
is not a legal voter, then you should report it.
Then you should call you police.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I think we're so surprised by it when we see it.
I'm reminded of a fellow in Elco that came up
to me after I was there speaking on election integrity,
and he says, well, this happened to me. My name
is Fred Smith, and I went went into my voter
registrar to vote on election day and I stepped up
(22:16):
to the window and the guy next to me said
to the clerk, my name is fred Smith and I
want my ballot m h. And he said, wait a second,
I'm fred Smith, and the guy next to him said, oh,
so sorry, my mistake, and turned around and left. He
was so shocked by it, and so were the people
(22:39):
behind the desk that they just stood there and looked
at one another. One a fellow went and got in
his car and drove away. So what they could have
done was gone out and got a yes, yeah, you know,
the the license plate number and all of those things.
But I think that that's just a case of where
(23:03):
when we see it sometimes we're so shocked by it
that we don't realize what we should do, and after
it's happened, the should of what it could is come
in and we don't have that same opportunity anymore because
that person was using your name. So how do you know, right,
how do you know? This is why we need voter
(23:27):
ID because that is the proof, that is the thing
that says, yes, I am this person, Yes I should
be voting this ballot so that Fred Smith doesn't get
his ballot stolen. That's one of the purposes for that
deputizing that person behind the the that's take that are
(23:51):
watching the polls might also be a determ just because
they know if they try to do this, there's somebody
that it's not going to make a citizens arrest. This
has a little more official flavor to it. This is
someone who's really able to determine whether a crime has
(24:13):
been committed or not. So that would make a stronger deterrent,
as you say, to doing something like this. But with
mail in ballots, you don't get that same opportunity to
test not just for citizenship, but just for who are you,
(24:34):
because mail in ballots have that opportunity for anyone to
vote those ballots. One person I know got seven ballots
in the mail. Now he turned those in, that's how
we know he got seven, but he could just as
well have voted them all. So you know, there is
(24:55):
a problem with mail in ballots in that the opportunity
is there or for mischief. And that's why as we
tighten this up, and I believe that the president is
right not to trust you to tell the truth by
checking the box as a citizen that we do mean documentation. However,
(25:21):
this judge calling Kohler Cotelli obviously doesn't agree. She thinks
that it's good enough to go on there, say so. Rick,
I wanted you to hear what our President had to
say about this judge and her decision, and what he
(25:42):
said when she said you can't do this. He said, free, fires, fair,
and honest elections, unmarred by fraud, errors, or suspicion, are
fundamental to maintaining our constitutional republic. The right of Americans
to have their votes properly counted and tabulated without illegal
(26:04):
elution is vital to determining the rightful winner of an
election under the safety Under the Constitution, state governments must
safeguard American elections in compliance with federal laws that protect
americans voting rights and guard against the lution by illegal voting, discrimination, fraud,
(26:26):
and other forms of malfeasance and error. Yet the United
States has not adequately enforced federal election requirements that, for example,
prohibit states from counting ballots received after election day or
prohibit non citizens from registering to vote. So right, and
(26:46):
I couldn't have said it better. And that's why the
executive order was made. And this judge now is saying, yeah,
they're say so is enough? And she's striking down his
ability to mandate this, which I think every citizen should
(27:06):
know that we have an activist judge one more time
judge calling Coller Hotel a federal judge blocking the rights
of citizens to have a fair, free, honest folk.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I would not be a bit surprised if that
was an Obama judge, or a no Biden judge, or
a Clinton judge. And with that, Sharon, I knew we
were going to go along on this segment. But you
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And as we thank you for saying with this, this
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we left the last segment. We're talking about this federal judge,
(29:40):
a DC federal judge who is trying to stop President
Trump's executive order on election integrity. What else do we
know about this woman?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, we know that she was appointed by William Rehnquist,
but it was under the Bill Clinton administration. So she's
been there a long time. And that's that, I guess
brings up this whole idea that once you're appointed to
the bench, you stay for your lifetime. These are lifetime appointments.
(30:17):
They don't just go away. So she's been there, like
I said, a long time. She's a senior judge now.
But one of the most interesting pieces of all of
her resume is that she was the judge who found
(30:41):
a dominic box. And I don't know exactly what she
found him guilty of. Let's see, he participated in the
January sixth capital attacks guilty on six charges. So we
know that most of those jan sixth charges were Trump
(31:01):
up and not to be punning, but the six charges
are you know, this is this was a political I
guess that is what I'm saying. She was the judge
who found him guilty on six charges, and before he
(31:23):
was sentenced, Donald Trump pardoned him, and this judge then
criticized Donald Trump's blake had pardons. So to me, she's
looking was looking for something that she could retaliate with
against Donald Trump, and this was it. So to me,
(31:45):
this is a political warfare here. She she is proving
her dominance over the presidency. Right, the judges, well have
the last word. The president may think that he's in charge,
but we really are. That's what this judge is saying
(32:08):
to me is that she had a personal reason to
deny his executive order and this was it. She had
made this, as I say, a political sentencing of this
fellow for whatever she felt his participation was in January sixth,
(32:33):
and then and then when Trump pardoned this fellow, she
made it her personal vendetta to get back at him.
And this is one of those ways. And she's just
asserting herself here into this by saying, I will have
(32:53):
the last say, so, mister president.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I just picked up dominic box. It says he waved
the right to a jury trial and declined a plea
deal offered by the prosecutors, opting instead for a bench
trial overseen by a Kohler or whatever name is, in
which Box admitted his involvement while retaining his appeal rights.
(33:21):
The ruling was the case delayed in part by the
US Supreme Court decision issued shortly after his trial, in
which justice is ruled that obstruction of an official proceeding
the most serious of charges box space, does not apply
to January sixth defendants. Box argued that dismissal of the
(33:46):
extruction charges were necessities the missal of all remaining charges,
but the judge ruled against him, writing in his writing
that his arguments quote lack merit. Sentencing has not been scheduled.
Box face several years in prison, as each of his
(34:09):
two felony conviction carries up to five years of imprisonment.
And you know, here is a guy who was offered
a deal. He said, no, I want to go to trial.
I went a jury charge. I want to judge a
bench trial. But the problem is the problem is he
got the wrong judge. He absolutely got his wrong day wrong.
(34:33):
You got the wrong judge.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
That is even I've missed some statement by you. Because
this judge is a judge with senior status, and what
that means is she's semi retired. She doesn't take a
full workload. They typically handle about fifteen percent of the
Federal Court's workload annually, So there is she didn't even
(34:59):
have to be that one judge. Roberts said that senior
judges are eligible for retirement with full pay, but still
continue to work, most in a part time capacity. So
but they don't get additional compensation for their work. But
(35:21):
this is so her status as a court judge did
not meant that she didn't need to be the one
that was on this case at all. And that even
says that they chose her specifically. So that and I
(35:42):
wonder how many others of the jan six offenders were
given to senior judges because they don't carry the same
weight as another judge. You know that some of the
Federal Court judges being a pointed might be taken out
(36:03):
of their appointment or or you know.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
What it says to me, Yes, she could retire, but
she just wants to be a pinioned about to Donald Trump.
And she's afraid if she resigns that her her place
is going to be uh, her seat is going to
be given to a Trump judge. You know, Sharon, maybe
it is time. Maybe it is time to get the
(36:30):
federal government out of wash out of Washington, d C. Seriously, seriously,
let's move it. Let's move it somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, don't you think also that it's time to consider
the role of judges and that Congress needs to act.
These judges are are overreaching their constitutional duties and they
are legislating from the bench. This is one of those
(37:02):
cases where he issued an executive order completely within his
legal parameters of his office and said, I just want
to make sure that it's not just your word about citizenship.
(37:23):
I just want to know for sure that you are
a citizen. Give me a document. And she's saying, no,
you can't require that document. Not because it's against the
law to require that document, not because the law doesn't
say that you have to be a citizen. It's her
(37:43):
personal opinion, really, and so she is putting her personal
opinion into the law rather than deciding.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
On what the law says.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
And when that happens, we call that legislating from the bench.
And we know that court precedence is really has almost
the same force and effect as law. So they are
making laws through that judicial branch, and the Congress needs
to say you can't do that, and anything that you've
(38:16):
done in the past is not legal because you can't
do that. It's not within your right to make laws
from the manch and it's completely within the Congressional right
to do that was given to them by the Constitution.
So that's my feeling on it is that we need
(38:39):
to ring these judges in and it's duty to do that.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I agree, I agree, big time, big time. Well, Sharon,
let's get another break in Why we have to It's
the law and this is the Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angle.
I'm a trader going nowhere, Sharon, and I'll be back
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Speaker 2 (43:17):
I suppose this is on my radar screen because the
person I'm running against in Nevada has taken money from
the Sorows brothers. Nice nice, right, and so Souruce's Open
Society has given eighty million dollars to pro terror groups. Well,
(43:45):
they found that these groups include Center for Third World Organizing,
a militant party partner of Rockets Society, which trains activists
and property destruction and sabotage during the twenty twenty riots,
the Sunrise Movement, which endorsed the Antifa link Stop Cop
(44:06):
City campaign, which activists currently face over forty domestic terrorism
charges and sixty racketeering indictments. They awarded eighteen million to
a Movement for Black Lives, a group that authorized the
Radical Guide that glorifies Hamas October seventh massacre and instructed
(44:31):
Africa's advoc activists to use false IDs, blockades and economic disruption.
They also funnel more than two point three million into
All Hawk, a non governmental organization in Goo based on
the West Bank which is now Judy and Samaria, we
(44:53):
don't call it that anymore, and also has ties to
Popular Front for the Liberal of Palestine. So it's inside
and outside the country that they are fomenting this terror.
(45:13):
So you know, all of that said that, I believe
anybody who is taking money from those kinds of sources
is probably at least turning a blind eye to what
they do, if not agreeing with what they do.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
I agree with that. I totally agree with that. That's
you know, one of the things I'd love to see
President Trump and Cash Patel and Pam BONDI get to
is the foundations like the Tied Foundation, sous and god
(45:56):
knows what the motivation for this man is. Is the
only way that I could look at is to destroy
the United States the way it is. That's the only
thing I can get at. But I agree anybody that's
taking money. You know, a lesson I learned from my
mother a long time ago is you're judged by who
(46:17):
you associate with. And it seems like anybody that associates
with George Sorows or any of his money, they're bad people.
They're bad people, and they need to be pointed out.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
The you know, it's interesting how they always tell the
truth about what they're about. And George so Sorow's naming
his foundation open Society. Talks about globalism, doesn't it no borders?
Everybody's one world order. The whole idea that we break
(47:01):
down a society in order to make it a world
society or a global society. And how do we do that?
How does sorrows think that's the best way to do it?
It's through this terrorism it's through hiring people to cause
(47:22):
disruptions within society that caused the reaction of military and
police force to put down these kinds of terrorists insurrections,
and of course anytime that the military or the police
(47:42):
come into a situation, it's often difficult to tell the
innocent from the guilty in a situation like that, because
they do get the useful idiots out to these protests.
They may hire people to go in and get the
protests started, but then some locals will come in and say, oh, yeah,
(48:05):
I think they're right, and they'll pick up a sign,
or maybe they get paid for picking up the sign.
They haven't got any idea where this is going. They're
just there because they got paid for it, or they
thought that sounded good and so they stood up for
that cause. So it's very difficult when someone like that
(48:27):
then gets caught up in the police gragnet, and then
that person becomes the focal point rather than what started
it in the first place. In you know, we were
just talking about John six. That's what happened, is that
(48:49):
they had terrorists that were inciting the crowd, not inciting
them to violence, but just saying directing them. You need
to go to the capital. You need to go inside
the capital, you need to you know, they invited them
in and these people were just going for a They
(49:10):
thought they were going for a tour of the capital,
and what they got caught in was a dragnet. Not
for the terrorists. Those people by and large escaped. We
do know some of them that started that, but there
were a lot of innocent people caught up in that dragnet,
(49:32):
prosecuted for crimes that they weren't even involved in. They
were just touring the capital. They were just there. There
are people on watch lists that weren't even there, but
they had a ticket to go, and they found out
that they were in the DC area during that time,
and now they've been questioned. So it has really opened
(49:54):
up as such a broad investigation that there's been push
back then from those of us who are freedom loving
saying you can't do this to innocent citizens. But it
was all started and I think we could probably trace
it back if we wanted to, to something like Soros's
(50:18):
open society. It was an attempt to cause domestic violence
in order to disrupt a peaceful society and move us
forward into an open society.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Sure, before we get to the end of this segment,
which is the end of the show, before we start
our interviews, you had mentioned that your opponent in a
race for a secretary of State is taking money from
the TIDES Foundation. Why would why would somebody who's running
for secretary of State in a state like Nevada, what
(50:56):
would ideological how would they mesh with the TIDES Foundation
and George Sorrows.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Well, I need to correct you. The the money actually
comes from individuals. They are two of Sorrows's sons, not
this Alexander who is with the Open Society Foundation.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
But it is and it doesn't matter if it's from
George himself or one of his sons.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
And this goes back to two thousand and six I believe.
I'll have to check my dates, but George Sorows started
a Secretary of States project, and this project was to
get Secretary of States into the battleground states. So it
(51:58):
was just a very limited project where he would put
in people chosen because they were attorneys first, because they
were aligned with his ideology, the democrat ideology second. But
really I believe their directive was probably to weaponize, centralize,
(52:24):
and politicize that office. And so there you have. It's
a continuation of the Soros Secretary of State's project, he said,
since then abandoned it as a dormant but he started
another project, which is the eternal Attorney General's project. And
(52:45):
those attorney generals have that same agenda. And because they
work so closely with the Secretary of State and the
prosecution of election crimes, it has become that you need both,
(53:07):
You need the Attorney General and the Secretary of State
to keep those prosecutions down. So I believe that it does.
And of course we've talked about this open society. The
underlying purpose for it is to weaken America so that
(53:28):
they can have a global society, weaken the borders. That's
why this judge that we've been talking about has said no, no,
just you say so is good enough. You don't have
to die of documentation, and has kicked the executive order
out based on that, because it's another part of this
(53:50):
weakening our system, the basic system that ensures our freedom.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Suar, and I wish we had more time because that
triggers another thought, how people that are coming here illegally
are not coming here to assimilate into our society. They're
coming here to bring their society from wherever they come
from here and make our society theirs. But that's for
another time because we've got to go for breaking. Right
(54:20):
after this break, we're going to be playing some of
the best of interviews here in the Conservative Commandos. I'm
Ritury to my cos to Sharon Angle. We'll be back
with those interviews right after this break.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
It's kind of fun how.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
It'll cheer before you talk. Stop the record.
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Speaker 1 (56:17):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commander this
radio show with Sharon Angele and you're Shulely rich Rader
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next guest. I've oh, I've had communications with for quite
some time, and I said Frank if you ever get
(56:40):
the skypework that we're going to make your regular guests
here in Conservative Commandos and we're improving it. Sharon, please
make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
So it's my pleasure to introduce Frank Salvado, who is
the co host of the Underground USA podcast. His writing
has been recognized by the US House International Relationships Committee
and the Japan Center for Conflict Prevention. His analysis has
been published by the American Enterprise Institute, The Washington Times,
(57:09):
National File, and Accuracy and Media, and it's nationally syndicated.
Frank appeared on The Oreli Factor on Fox News Channel
and is the author of six monographs examining internal and
external threats facing our country. He can be heard twice
weekly on The Captain's America Third Watch radio programs syndicated
(57:33):
nationally on the Salem Broadcasting Network and Genesis Communications affiliate stations. Frank,
welcome back to the Conservative Commandos radio show.
Speaker 5 (57:45):
Always a pleasure to spend some time.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
It's our pleasure, Frank, and we want to discuss an
article you wrote the Left Stupidity Games. I'm not even
sure where to start on this, but you start with
DEI I'll start there with you. So let's talk about
this stuff.
Speaker 5 (58:05):
There are so many of these stupidity games that it
is hard to know where to begin. But Dei is
the chief among them. For them to say that it's
about creating fairness and opportunity is just a flat out lie.
Dei is a discriminatory practice that that elevates special interest
(58:28):
groups above the whole. It's you know, it's especially And
this isn't a popular thing to say because people get
a little squeamish about it. But if you're a white
heterosexual male in the in the Western culture, in the
woke Western culture, you are the demon. You are you
are the person we're all blame lies, and you shall
(58:50):
be demonized from this point forward. Well, when you remove
the Dei philosophy, that ideology from the mix, and you
create opportunity for all on an equal plane instead of
equity of outcome, we get back to being colorblind, which
(59:12):
is kind of where we were. I don't know, maybe
everybody else's experience isn't the same as mine, but we
were kind of there at the end of the eighties
and the beginning of the nineties where we were moving
beyond the color of somebody's skin, and we were actually
looking at the content of their character and whether they
had merit to hold the station that they were holding.
(59:35):
You know, with Barack Obama coming into power, suddenly we
were all racist again, less you were anything other than
a white HETEROSEXU in the world.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Well, I think you're right, Frank. I know, we have
always been kind of there in the West. It has
always been shocking to me that when you get a
little bit east of the Mississippi start to run into
this stuff. But for the most part we were pretty
much any everybody's okay with us. And then Obama hit
(01:00:15):
and that I guess that was the one where you know,
they started making a problem of something that wasn't a problem,
calling it out as a problem. When Obama got in
and he was going to straighten that out, but he
really didn't, did it, Frank.
Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
No, No, As a matter of fact, he supercharged it.
You know, he supercharged it. He wasn't truthful about the past.
He helped facilitate things like the sixteen nineteen project and
the institutionalized racism and law enforcement, which the numbers just
aren't there to validate that statement. Even if you go
(01:00:52):
to the most jaded set of numbers from the FBI
and the history. There's no proof of that whatsoever, yet
the media ran with it. I like to remind people,
and it's just something that history isn't teaching anymore, probably
because they're just not teaching history anymore in the in
elementary schools and high schools, and we absolutely are teaching
(01:01:15):
it in higher education. That's all in doctrination today.
Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
But we're the.
Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Only country on the face of the earth throughout the
history of men who ever went to war to say
that slavery races it. It's all wrong, it's all wrong.
You know, we count six hundred thousand Americans who put
their lives on the line, and many of them giving
(01:01:42):
the ultimate sacrifice, to say this is wrong, and we're
not going to do this anymore. Even the Framers, which
the left likes to demonize all the time, at their core,
whether they were trapped in the institutions of the time
or not, we're saying we've got to get rid of this.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
And I think, as you say, we're the most impartial country,
I mean, we're the melting pot, and we've had our
little hiccups through history. And as you say that, we
even fought a big war just to say, is this wrong.
We once in a while have to do a little
(01:02:26):
course correction. I mean, Martin Luther King said he made
a course correction on this. But then it seems like
this has just gone completely off its rails and we
are back to what I feel like is even worse
than before we fought the war, if that's possible. I mean,
(01:02:48):
I'm hearing things like people that are taking in Haitian
refugees now are saying, this is the greatest thing I
ever did. Did they do my laundry, they do my cooking,
they clear in my house. Everybody should have a Haitian
what I just want to bang my head on the
table over at you know, it's just nuts to hear
(01:03:10):
that kind of commentary.
Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
Yeah, there's a there's a meme going around that's addressing
the issue at the southern border and the fact that
we're closing it because there's a way to come to
our country in a way not to come to our country.
And it says it juxtaposes the days of slavery in
the United States. That says, but if we free the slaves,
who will pick our cotton? And the next panel is
(01:03:34):
today and it says, well, if we don't have illegal
immigrants who will pick our who will harvest our vegetables.
That's the kind of mentality that you know, it's an
entitled mentality that really shouldn't exist here in the twenty
first century here in the United States, but it does.
And why because the left operates off chaos. They need
(01:03:57):
to have the crisis. It's an Olynski rule that they
need to have the crisis to create the chaos so
they can introduce the solution, which is always something that
they're in complete control of. You know. It's the transformative
power that the left wants to project on the United States,
and it's a it's a transformative power that has absolutely
(01:04:20):
nothing to do with individualism or freedom. It has to
do with we doing what we're told. Wear your mask,
get vaccinated, don't question what we're doing. Spending is good,
open borders are better, and we should listen to the globalists.
That's what they want. But a free thinking nation that's
(01:04:42):
built on liberty, freedom, and individualism, we get to say
no and we get to question things. And that's why
you see them coming one against free speech. They don't
like to call it that. They'd like to say they're
they're promoting facts checking and disinformation and misinformation. But the
(01:05:04):
fact is they're trying to control what's being said in thought,
and that's something we all have to rebel against.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Well, what you're talking about is the insults that we
have been receiving on our end. I think the first
one that just shocked me was for President Obama to
say that we were ignorant clinging to our guns and religion.
That was I mean, it was the most insulting thing
(01:05:37):
to the majority of our country. And they have now
so badly infiltrated many of our institutions. The military, I
can't think of any institution that is more level In fact,
boot camp is all about making everybody equal. You don't
(01:05:59):
come in with your daddy's name, you know, you know,
you come in there and you you don't even get
to keep your own underwear. I mean, you're just there.
You don't get to keep your hair, your sideburns, your mustache,
you're anything. You are leveled. Everybody becomes the same in
the military, and then they build you into a fighting
(01:06:23):
unit where everybody watches everybody's back. But that's not the
way it is anymore in the military. It's just astounding.
Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
Well, hopefully with Hagsiths, we're turning that corner and getting
back to it. The the cancelation of DEI practices at
the Pentagon was just so important, so important. And then
the and the idea of urging ideologues, whether there's civilian
(01:06:52):
employees or appointments or whether they're wearing the uniform. You know,
just because you're wearing a uniform doesn't mean that you're
not susceptible to that kind of indoctrination and thinking, we've
got to get back to our military being the fighting
machine that's feared around the world and revered by people
who are oppressed, and leave the nation building, which was
(01:07:15):
something that Obama wanted to do so badly with our
military to the State Department. You know, our war machine
should be a war machine, you know, and not an
NGO organization that's that's building hospitals and this, that and the other.
It's a wonderful thing to do, don't get me wrong.
You know, you want to help develop a nation. You
(01:07:36):
want to you want us to be seen as the
good guys on the world stage. That's great, but that's
what USAID is for. That's what the State Department is
for it's not what our warriors are for. Our warriors
are there to protect the United States, our assets, our interests,
and our people in our country. So let them have
(01:07:57):
that singular job. It's like the Secret Service. How about
we just have them do protection details for the elected
officials who warrant it, and let the FBI and the
Treasury Department deal with counterfeiting and everything else. Singular issues.
Singular focus always makes for a better apparatus.
Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Well, and I think that that is that idea piece
or strength. When you've got a focused military, everybody knows it,
and when you don't, everybody knows that too.
Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Frank Savado as a guess. He's the host of the
Underground USA podcast also puts out a newsletter, Underground USA,
which I'm proud to get every week. And Frank, thank
you for holding through that break. We appreciate your time anytime.
And always the left stupidity games, you know, Frank, DEI,
(01:08:52):
I think what DEEI did is DEI gave lesson give
license for liberals to outstupid each other with the next
wacky idea. They try to outwacky each other. Frank, I
mean they got to one level then a deeper level
than a deeper level, and these seemed like they had
(01:09:14):
to out wacky outstupid each other. And this is what
this is what's put us in the position that we
are in right now. How do you feel about that statement, Frank.
Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Well, it's accurate. I think it's the cause of it
is what we have to look at. And I think
the constitutional illiteracy of the far left and the tolerance
of it by the American people is something that allows
that kind of stupidity. You call it wackiness. I just
(01:09:47):
call it stupidity to go forward in the halls of power,
which are supposed to be the halls that sanctify what
are ow documents and what we're supposed to be about
as American. If you get elected the office, a prerequisite
should be a pretty decent understanding of how it works.
(01:10:12):
And that doesn't mean how the political parties work, although
you should know that if you're going to go through
against sharing those this very well, if you're going through
the process of trying to get a nomination, you better
know how the political parties work. But that doesn't have
anything to do with governance. There's a set of rules
laid out by the US Constitution, and they are rained
(01:10:37):
in by the Bill of Rights what the government can
and can't do, what they can step on, where they
can go their limitations. The Constitution and the Bill of
Rights are a set of limitations for a federal government,
each branch. And it seems to me the people who
are doing the wackiness, the stupidity, they either don't have
(01:11:01):
a solid working knowledge of what those rules are and
how government's supposed to work, or they just don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Frank, I think the American people are too nice for
the room good because they accept this stuff and they
don't they want everybody to like them. They don't want
to be insulting. They don't want to look at some
girl with pink hair, tattoos all over her body, rings
(01:11:32):
coming out of her nose, her eyebrow, her mouth and
say you're weird. You know, they're just afraid to say
what things really are because they don't want to be insulting.
And so he has gotten so far. When you put
point out the stupid, wacky ideas for what they are,
(01:11:55):
stupid wacky ideas, then you're the demon. You're the demon.
And again I think we've gotten to this point. Americans
are just too nice. We should have been tough parents
from the beginning, and so and pointed out the weirdness
to whacking this. My gosh, you go through the mall today,
(01:12:17):
go through the mall today, and it's like going to
a freak show. The way people dress and what people
do to them with the rings and this tattoo and
the hair and the clothing. I mean, I was in
the hospital a couple of weeks ago and this girl
walked in with a pair of jeans and there was
(01:12:38):
not much thread there. Frank, they were all ripped up.
I'm serious, from the from the top of the hips
to the ankles. These pants were all ripped up. So
you know what I said to her, Well, I'm glad
you survived the grizzly bear attack. We've just got We're
so nice, we've accepted this and the other. The other
(01:13:00):
thing that gets me about our culture today, and you
kind of alluded to it in your article here, And
I'll tell you where I'm going from. You know, for
years and years and years at least, since I was
a child in the and could understand things. In the
late fifties and through the sixties, it was integration, integration, integration.
(01:13:23):
We had to add segregation. But what has happened now
segregation is coming back, but it's not The segregation isn't
coming back through the white race. It's coming back from
people of color. You know, there are Harvard Harvard, there
(01:13:43):
were there were classes and there were dorms for African
American students. Only whites were prohibited.
Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
I'm gonna I'm gonna drill down a little bit further. Yeah,
And and the saying you have to look at the
hierarchy that's instituting this lunacy. There are a lot of
white people in there who are doing this, So it's
really not a race thing. It is a power position
ideology type of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Sot me to stop.
Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
You there, let me stop you. I hate to interrupt guests,
But again, I think this is because of the wacky
stupity this that they that they try to olt wacky
and now stupid to each other. You know, they fall
over themselves to be nice, they fall over each other
come up with the next wacky, stupid idea. We have
(01:14:36):
been including a lot of white people.
Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
We've been told for as long as I've been alive
that it's impolite to discuss politics and religion and current
events at the dinner table, that you shouldn't bring it
up with friends because people might think differently than you do.
That's where this started, this let's be polite thing. There
are ways to express yourself and talk about politics, religion,
(01:15:04):
current events, important things that aren't abrasive, that aren't that
aren't offensive. You have to use your language to do this,
and you have to make sure that you can. You
know you can have that conversation. But I say this
at the end of every single podcast that I have.
(01:15:25):
If you have these conversations, we all find out we
have more in common. Whether it's the girl with the
ripped up genes or the person with the thirty piercings
on our ear, we find out that we've got more
in common than we do in difference. And that spotlights
these deep state bureaucrats who thrive, whose only ability to
(01:15:45):
maintain power is to divide us into these demographics that
they can cobble together fifty one percent for election. If
we say no to that and work naturally, organically diverse,
that's what a big pot is. That's what Epler Bazoonam
is supposed to be. Out of many one when we
do that, then this deep state bureaucracy that wants to
(01:16:09):
make sure that we're angry with each other and we
don't like this, and that person's outside and I'm inside,
and we can't have this anymore. They lose their power
because they can't organize us to get that fifty one
percent for the elections. That's when populism comes and explodes
on the scene, exactly what Donald Trump did.
Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Frank and your article. Well, before I go there, let
me say this in Chermonte, I love everything that flies.
Flying has been one of my passions in life. In fact,
many years ago, a friend and I built a little
airplane called an ultralight airplane. And for those of you
that don't know what altars are, their lawn chairs with
(01:16:54):
wings that are propelled by Snamma bill engines. Now have
to build something you want to you wanna see how
it works? Right? Well, I ended up flying this ultra
light from New Jersey to Florida, to Texas to California,
through Canada to Alaska to the Arc, circling back to
New Jersey, and in doing so, I kind of made
(01:17:16):
myself a little minor star in minor world of sport. Aviation.
The best thing that I got out of that whole experience, Frank,
is I met some of the best people you can imagine.
And some of those people were the Tuskegeeerman, you know,
I was fortunate to meet them while they were still alive.
I also met many, many, many woman wax who served
(01:17:41):
in the WASP as a ferrier pilots. And I spoke
with a guy by name of Gabby Garbeski, who was
the top American ace in the European theater in this
Second World War, and I said, Gabby, it says, you know,
I know it's a pilot. It can get pretty hairy.
You know, you can get real white knuckle. I can't
(01:18:03):
imagine flying an airplane and having somebody shoot at You
can't imagine it. So where I'm getting at is the Tuskegearman.
In my opinion, they were real heroes, and I think
they would have been great pilots even if the services
were integrated at that day, the Woman Air Force Service pilots,
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they did a yeoman's job. But I'll tell you what
has happened today is once again these groups have been segregated.
They've been segregated. The Tueske gearmen were great pilots. But
it seems like whenever you talk about aviation history, you
gotta put in there the Teskegee pilots. You just can't
(01:18:48):
talk about the great pilots of World War Two when
you talk about the WASP. Well, now you know the
reason they were ferrying aircraft is at the time and
we did not want our women in combat. Now, to
be fair to everybody, we got to put our women
in combat. And some of those women have suffered. Some
(01:19:13):
of those women were taken prisoner during the Golf War,
and some of the treatment that they went through is
almost unspeakable. And the things that were done to them
that the perpetrators were on the streets of New York
or Philadelphia deserve to be in jail for long periods
of time. But this political correctness, Frank, this political correctness ole.
(01:19:38):
Whenever you talk about aviation, you got to include the
Tuskee Gierman. Whenever you talk about baseball, you got to
include a conversation about Jackie Robinson. I mean, here we go,
we're another couple of weeks, We're coming up on the
Super Bowl. You know what the big work, Oh, two
African American quarterbacks I mean, when you look at the
(01:20:01):
quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs, he looks more white
than black. But the conversation is another matchup between African
American quarterbacks. Frank, what I'm getting at is, I would
love love to stop talking about race, looping, separating. Then
we need to start.
Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
Then we need to stop talking about race. There's there's
someone there who is a regent of the University of
California system, but the name of Ward Connorley, who I'm
friends with, and that's what he's been saying for almost
twenty years. You want to erase race, erase it, stop
talking about it. When we when we're constantly going back,
even even if we're taking issue with it, we're still
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talking about race.
Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
The point that I was making about the Tuskegee Airman
and the wasps in my latest article was that di co
opted it and they made it. They tried to make
it their issue to be able to pontificate on and
say this something we're pushing in our training. And somebody
who makes these decisions, and I think that he would
(01:21:07):
fall into your category of the wacky, made a decision
that well, you know, if he wants to get rid
of the EI, then we got to get rid of
this history. We can't teach this lesson anymore. So that's
the way we've got to be. That's disingenuous at every level.
You know, it's part of the history of the Air Force.
You teach the history of the Air Force, you don't
(01:21:29):
need to mention race, you don't need to mention gender,
you know, but you don't shy away from it. Why
it's reality. So we say what it is. With the
Skegee Airmen, Yeah, they were a black squadron. They they
did great work. God bless them. I'm glad they were there.
The women who of the wasps excellent. I commend them.
(01:21:51):
They did a great service. They were all part of
the team. But as Americans, we don't need to say, well,
see if you didn't have if we didn't have affirmative action,
if we didn't have equal rights. Hey, we have an
all volunteer army. Now, if a woman is a great
fighter and can and make sure that she has all
(01:22:12):
of the levels that anybody should have on the field.
And this is coming from somebody who was in the
Fire Service and worked alongside women who were just as
capable as any man that I took as a partner
going in there, then fine, outstanding. But it has to
be based on merit, not your gender, not your race,
not your religion. It has to be merit based. And
(01:22:35):
I think that's where you know, if you're reading Donald
Trump's stuff, right, that's where we want to go. It's
the disingenuous players out there who are trying to make
into something that it's not. And they're the ones that
keep trying to advance the Balkanization of the United States
and the demographics based on the stuff that they can
put together to cobble together fifty one percent.
Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
You know, Frank, as I said that, I've met many
it's uske gear and I met a lot of WASP.
They were all find great people. They really were. They're
really find great people. And I agree with you. I
especially agree with you. If you want to if you
want to stop talking about race, you stop talking about race.
(01:23:19):
If you want to end the divide between the races,
you know what you do, Frank, You treat everyone the
way you want to be treated. That ends it all.
That ends it all right there, and then and take.
Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
All the and take all the boxes off the forms
who cares if you're applying for a job in my corporation,
Why do I care? If you have the merit to
be there and the ability to be there, and you're
the best candidate for the job, That's the way it
should be. Orchestras do it all the time. Everybody auditions
behind a screen, no one gets to see who's playing,
(01:23:56):
because they want the best person for that position. Why
does it stop there?
Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
With the arts, Frank Savada, we want to thank you
for joining us. Enjoy the time with you, Frank, but
before you leave, please give our audience to get information
how they could follow you. Read the things that you're right,
listen to your radio show time anything.
Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
Everything that we that we do, anything that we produce
is at underground USA dot com as far as the
podcast goes. Anywhere podcasts can be heard, but the best
way to get to get the straight portal straight into
your email inbox for conventing the centers and the fact
checkers is to go to Underground USA dot com.
Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
As I do. Frank Savada, again, thank you so much
for joining us. Take care and God.
Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
Bless anytime and always.
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Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Well, it's my pleasure to introduce Matthew Ganione, who is
the Chief executive officer of the Main Policy Institute of
free market policy think tank based in Portland, Maine. Matt
has also been a columnist for The Banger Daily News
and hosts The WGAN Morning News, the highest rated news
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talk radio program in southern Maine. Prior to joining Maine
Policy Institute, Met spent roughly a decade in Washington, d C.
Working for the Republican Governors Association, the National Republican Senatorial Committee,
and on Capitol Hill. He has been involved in more
than one hundred high profile political races in forty nine states,
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in one industry recognition being named by Campaign and Election
Magazine as one of the top campaign strategies just in
the country in twenty thirteen. Matt, Welcome to the Conservative
Commando's radio show.
Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
It's my pleasure to be here. Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Well, we invited you because you've written a great article
that really hits home for us. California's suspension of environmental
regulations should be permanent. I couldn't say as stronger thank
you for writing this and aimen to that. Let's go
through some of those things and talk about what has
(01:28:35):
happened in California. It's basically what you're talking about in
this article has been the demise of that once great
state of California, and really it's, say, a cautionary tale
for the rest of the United States.
Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
I would say, yeah, I think it is, and I
think it actually makes a lot of sense to sort
of start at the beginning. We're obviously talking about this
because the wildfires and what's been taking place in southern California.
That's really why I wrote the article, because it was
talking about sort of how do you recover from that
and what might be standing in the way. But if
you back up, California has had problems for a long time.
(01:29:14):
This isn't brand new, This isn't something that's all that surprising.
People who actually live in the state would tell you
that they have a tremendous housing shortage, which has caused
prices to skyrocket. It's impossible to find affordable housing basically
anywhere in the state these days. I've seen a number
of studies that have tried to estimate exactly how many
houses short they are, and it's anywhere from two point
(01:29:35):
six million to three point two million or somewhere in between.
So they just don't build things. They just don't produce
what needs to be produced, and anybody who's familiar with
markets and capitalism knows if there's demand for something, people
will try to fill it, and they will fill it
by building more widgets or creating more houses, or whatever
it is that you're trying to talk about in a market.
(01:29:56):
And if they're not, there's something wrong. There's something that's
interfering with that. In California, the answer to the question
of what's interfering with that is, predictably, the government. Gavin
Newsom just issued an executive order in response to these wildfires,
basically trying to find a way to help people rebuild quickly.
And what he did in this executive order is he
(01:30:16):
suspended the California Environmental Quality Act. For the people who
are rebuilding. This is a pretty infamous program, some regulations
in California that have been around since the nineteen seventies
and for decades they've been strangling the state and anybody's
attempt to put an addition on their garage, let alone
try to have ten thousand houses built. And by suspending
(01:30:37):
these I think that Newsom is acknowledging that there's something
standing in the way. It's going to make projects take
a lot longer than they should be. Much more expensive
than they should and basically make the whole rebuilding process fail.
So in doing this, I think he inadvertently kind of
acknowledges that there's a really huge problem in California that
needs to be solved. The problem, of course, is that
(01:30:57):
he gets halfway there and doesn't actually understand the true lesson,
which is that they shouldn't be there in the first place,
and they should be permanently repealed, and that would go
a long way towards solving a lot of California's housing problems.
Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Well, I think that is a deficit that the Democrats
have at large. They get about halfway there, they speak
half of what really needs to happen, and that encourages us, Matt.
We get encouraged and we think, oh, well, these guys
aren't so bad as we thought they were, but they
(01:31:30):
really are. Because it is that kind of halfway stuff
that's gotten us in the trouble that we're in.
Speaker 6 (01:31:37):
Yeah, and I think that, you know, if you're trying
to be charitable, a lot of this stuff comes from,
I guess, a desire to help or do the right
thing or whatnot right. The whole law in general began
with Ronald Reagan. Most people don't know this. He's the
one that signed the California Environmental Quality Act in nineteen
seventy And there was actually a Republican legislature in California
at the time, and when it began, it was and
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really that much of a problem. They were trying to
find ways of making sure that when you build stuff
that you didn't do something insane, like, you know, dumb
mercury in the water or something. But what happened is
over the years, a lot of do gooder politicians in California,
and in California it became one party that really did this,
used that law and just built more requirements on top
(01:32:21):
of more requirements on top of more requirements. And now
when you try to engage in a building project in California,
it can take you months years, and your price can
go up by twenty five, fifty, seventy five percent, and
it just takes the bottom out of any developer that's
trying to actually produce anything, making it not worth it.
And so when it's not worth it, nothing is built,
(01:32:41):
and the price goes up.
Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
And you asked the question, which is an interesting question,
and I want you I know we've kind of talked
about it in general, but I want you to really
talk about this. The question is, if these regulations are
an unnecessary hindrance for those recovering from the wildfires, why
are they necessary at all?
Speaker 6 (01:33:06):
I think it's a pretty important question. I think it's
a pretty common sense question, you know. I guess really
what I would get to is the core of the
issue here. They're either important or they're not. And if
they're important, when someone is trying to, you know, install
some stairs in an apartment complex of theirs, and they
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have to wait a year and a half for the
approvals and the permits to come through and the environmental
studies to be done and the reports to be produced
before they can do that kind of thing, why is
it not important when we're going to be doing that
times ten thousand, when we're going to be having all
of these homes, all of these apartment complexes, all of
these businesses rebuilt. Because if it is important here, it
(01:33:48):
should be important there. And I think the real answer
is that it's actually not important. And it's the right
thing to tell these people when they're rebuilding that they
don't have to put up with that they don't have
to they don't have to worry about this particular set
of regulations ruining their you know, chances of maybe rebuilding
their home that they lost. And imagine being one of
these people, right and having to wait like two years
(01:34:09):
before you can actually move back into the house that
was burned down in a California wildfire that was largely
the responsibility of politicians who didn't do what they were
supposed to do to make sure this kind of thing
didn't happen in the first place. It would turn you insane.
I can't imagine being that kind of person, and that's
ultimately why Newsom did this. The thing that makes me
really mad about it, Sharon, is that what he's trying
(01:34:31):
to do here is he's trying to kind of wrap
himself in the problem solver cloak and make himself look
like someone who's you know, helping people to rebuild. He
wants to become the hero. And now these environmental regulations
are easily dispensed with when it makes Gavim Newsom into
a hero. But in any other context, he's happy to
champion them, and he says that they're great and we
(01:34:53):
should continue to use them, maybe just reform them and
tweak them a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Well, and that banks the political question. Are they really
truly interested in affordable housing. I know we're having this
same discussion here in Nevada. We need affordable housing, and
they're building apartments like crazy, but nobody can afford twenty
three hundred a month. That's not affordable housing. And so
(01:35:20):
then you have to say, well, they really aren't building
affordable housing. They're just building out. This is this is
about making more money. And that's why they don't really
want to repeal these permanently because it would it's kind
of cut into the market, you know, you know how
politics work. So so take me take me back from
(01:35:43):
this wall here where I'm on the ledge, and I'm
saying this is all a political problem and it's not
going to it's not going to be solved at all.
Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
I'd love to walk you back from the ledge, but
I live in the Greater Portland region of where we're
doing the exact same thing. I mean, it's it's interesting
that most of the country actually has the same problem.
It's not just a California thing. They may be one
of the worst offenders, but basically everywhere in the country
has some sort of a housing crisis right now, and
it's always the same things that created at the end
(01:36:16):
of the day. It's funny that you described the issue
the way that you did share in because honestly, the
developers are going to find a way to make money
no matter what happens, whether you have these regulations, you
don't have these regulations. They're gonna build what they can
to make a profit. I think that this is so
insidious because what it's ultimately done is it has disincentivized
(01:36:37):
anybody from being from making a project that would actually
be reasonably affordable because the costs have been piled up
on them so much that having like a you know,
a big complex that actually might be reasonably affordable doesn't
make any sense anymore. Here in Portland, Maine, we have
things like inclusionary zoning, we have rent control, we have
a Green New Deal, you know sort of proposal in
(01:37:00):
the city that that just inflates costs to such a
degree that why would I make a low income type,
you know, large scale housing project when I could do
condos or I could create a you know, a larger
complex for wealthier individuals and make my margin there. So
by trying to help and making it so unaffordable to
(01:37:20):
do this. All they've done is they've incentivized exactly the
wrong kind of housing that they don't want to incentivize.
And we're all complaining about that. That's not that's not
a real part is an issue.
Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Well, and here's here's the appshot of the whole thing.
Our homeless population has increased. And the reason is because
it's cheaper to couch surfe, cheaper to have a cardboard box.
It's less responsibility, less having to worry about bills, less
less having to consider how do I make ends meet?
(01:37:52):
If I just go on the homeless market, get a
shower down there at you know, join the gym and
get a show once in a while, sleep in my car,
whatever it is there, they have priced themselves clear into it.
Another problem is what we're seeing.
Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
I think that they've so ruined the economics of this
that people make rational decisions. And if your rational decision
is to pursue a path that you know, sort of
makes you more able to afford your life over here,
and it's you know, less than less than advantageous. You know,
maybe you're a homeless person, maybe you're in Section eight housing,
whatever it is you're going to take it. It's you know,
(01:38:34):
people are rational economic actors. They're going to do what's
in their own financial best interest, which is one of
the reasons why the United States and states like California,
their welfare systems are so backwards and upside down. There.
They're incentivizing all the wrong kind of behavior and they're
basically creating the very thing that they purport to solve.
Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
The affordable housing one drives me nuts because the government
solution to that is always government centric, taxpayer funded low
income housing project and they build these things, they take forever.
They're terrible, nobody wants to live in them, and there's
nowhere near enough, and you know, the market is demanding
something that they can't possibly satisfy and provide, and so
(01:39:14):
people end up doing other things, whether that's being homeless
or or having other options. Moving further out. I mean,
it increases urban sprawl. You want to look at the
problems of California, one of the big ones is that
everything is spread out like that, and that's because people
keep going further and further away because it's the last
affordable thing. You know, and you commute in forty five
minutes or an hour. I mean, I when I lived
(01:39:35):
in Washington, I consider doing that. I was not really
making a heck of a lot of money at the time,
and in order to work in the city, the only
place I could really think about living that made any
sense whatsoever, was like almost an hour away, and it
was an insane commute to come in. You know, that's
the decision we're making people do right now because of
our policies.
Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Absolutely correct. It's just an amazing thing to me that
you and I can sit here and talk about this
and in ten minutes we can solve the problem. And
we elect people like Gavin Newsom. I should not say
that I did not elect him. I did not vote
for him. But you know, people like Gavin Newsom are
(01:40:18):
elected and they pat us on the head and say
we'll solve this. But the solution they come up with
takes months, if not years, and it's never the correct one.
It's mind boggling to me. And because of that, we're
going to go to a commercial break and I'll let
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(01:43:33):
the Main Policy Institute and we're talking about California's suspension
of environmental regulations should be permanent. Hey, Matt, thank you
for holding through that break. We really do appreciate your time. Sir.
Speaker 6 (01:43:46):
Oh, always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
Hey Matt, Before we go any father, why don't you
tell us a little bit about the Main Policy Center.
Speaker 6 (01:43:54):
Yeah. I Main Policy Institute is one of I don't
know more than fifty thing tanks across the country that
work on individual state policy issues for places like may
in California, Texas, Colorado, wherever. We've been around for about
twenty two years, and we work primarily in Augusta on
things affecting main policy from the state side of things.
(01:44:15):
We do touch on some federal policy, but a lot
of what we do actually is very similar to what
we're talking about today, talking about housing regulations, talking about taxes,
talking about sort of the unintended consequences of a lot
of very silly government decisions. That's got all my day
jobs all about.
Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
All right, you know any in your article you talk
about crises, and you're right, and I quote you, sir,
like most of the rest of the country, California has
largely self created housing crisis. Well, I think creating crisis
is a California think. They've created a power crisis, an
(01:44:53):
auto crisis, a tax crisis, so now they have the
housing crisis. And I'll be honest with you, I don't
know how optimistic you are about California not only suspending
their regulations but permanently suspending regulations and do the things
(01:45:13):
that it needs to do to rebuild California. And I'll
tell you where I'm coming from that. On May thirteenth,
nineteen eighty five, May thirteenth, nineteen eighty five, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
a liberal run city. They haven't had a Republican mayor
in my lifetime, and that's pretty darn long lifetime now.
(01:45:37):
But there was a group called move group called Move
and they were radical back to the nature type group.
They had two row homes that they barricaded off there
was some reports that the children were being abused, rats, roaches,
place was infested with them. So the city that license
(01:46:01):
and inspection out to do an investigation of these accusations
child abuse. They wouldn't license an inspection in so then
the police showed up and what ensued was a five
hour running gun battle. Over five thousand rounds of ammunition
was fired, was exchanged. The mayor at that time, Wilson Good,
(01:46:27):
ended this situation by dropping a bomb on the top
of the house. The bomb exploded, put the house on fire,
put the neighboring houses on fire. One hundred and fifty
one houses burnt down before Wilson Good let the fire
company go into put the fire out. Now why I'm
(01:46:50):
pessimistic about lessons learned in California? Do you know who
are the people of Philadelphia reelected as the mayor next
to the license Wilson Good. Wilson Good now Matt Five
years ago there was the Paradise Fire in California. Ten
(01:47:10):
thousand houses burnt down in that fire. You know how
many have been rebuilt? Five years later, about twenty five hundred,
about twenty five hundred out of the right thousand, and
speaking to some of the people because we broadcast up
in that area, we got towers up in that area,
(01:47:32):
and speaking to some of the people, they say, part
of it's the it's the regulations. It's the regulations. So, Matt,
what makes you think that this, these count the southern
California fires are finally going to get these people in California,
like Gabin Newssom, to finally come to their senses and say,
(01:47:54):
we got to do things differently. I mean, we had
the Paradise fires, now we've got the the fires in
southern California. And these fires, aren't you unique? It seems
like every year California is on fire.
Speaker 6 (01:48:10):
They are. To be very clear, I'm not optimistic at all.
I hate to be the rain cloud on our conversation,
but I'm really not. But with a caveat, I'll add
a little caveat to my pessimism about this. I think
the main reason I'm not very optimistic is because I
have two eyes and I can see that California is
at this point in dystopia and they continue to send
(01:48:30):
back exactly the wrong kind of people doing the exact
wrong kind of things. The little twinge, the little tiny
bit of optimism I have is not about like in
the next year or two. It's in the longer term
for California. In the longer term for California. Someday they
will emerge from this. They will. I really do believe
that someday they will emerge from this when it really
(01:48:51):
does get so bad that they have no option. I mean,
look at Argentina right now and what's going on down
there with Tovi here, Malay and everything that's happening in
that country. It got so bad that they elected basically
a guy who wants to entire entirely destroy the state,
which is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (01:49:08):
You know, you can go to America, though, and you
can look at examples here it's not quite that dramatic.
But if you go to the you know, New York
City in the nineteen eighties in early nineteen nineties, you
see a crumbling social fabric. I mean, you couldn't take
the subway without feeling like you were going to get
mugged or or perhaps you know, physically assaulted. You have
graffiti everywhere, you have prostitution everywhere. You have a city
(01:49:32):
that just is falling apart, and at some level, you know,
people got so fed up with it that they turned
to Mayor Rudy Giuliani and said, please, for the love
of all that is only clean this up for us,
please do this. And there was a smashing success in
doing so, which really kind of carried that city through
for multiple decades. Now they've obviously sipped slipped back since.
And this is kind of the pattern we see, right
(01:49:53):
is you know, you fix things, things get better, and
then you have the same problems that created it in
the first place re emerging because the do goods come
back again and say, well, we can make this really
good society just a little bit better if you just
listen to us and we institute these regulations, we have
these new laws, et cetera. And it doesn't work, but
that doesn't mean it can't change. And I do think
it can, but it really is going to require the
(01:50:13):
people in California being fed up to such a degree
that they demand change.
Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Well, Matt, it seems like the southern California fires are
probably they're going to be one of them, if not
the most expensive disaster in our country's history, one of them.
And I've got a solution, and I want to put
this out there for our friends out there in California,
because I do have a solution. Off the coast of
(01:50:40):
California is a billion barrels of oil, a couple billions
of cubic feet of natural gas, Matt. They have the
resources to rebuild, is what I'm getting it. But again,
they've got to change their mindset. They've got to change
your think. They got to do what they said they
(01:51:03):
don't want to do. Oh, they want to go to
the American people. They want to go to Sharon, Nevada,
Matt Maine, Rick in New Jersey, and everywhere else. And
they want us to make them whole again when they
have the ability to make themselves whole.
Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
Yeah, no, they do indeed. And if you want to
start listing the things that California has for advantages that
it isn't exploiting, you can talk about the gigantic deposits
of rare earth materials that they have sitting under the
earth that they refuse to allow themselves to go mine
because it would be a devastating environmental problem. You know,
they don't do that kind of thing. And instead, now
we offshore all production of those types of materials which
(01:51:45):
are essential to circuits and everything we do in our
modern age to China and we have them do it,
which you know, I think feeds us something like ninety
five percent of the rare earth materials that we actually use.
Great idea, awesome, And sitting right there in California is
a gold mine, literal gold mine for them, and they
could exploit it and they don't. And that's repeated in
(01:52:06):
you know, so many different ways, issue after issue in
that state.
Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
You know, they when you were talking with Sharon about
this California Environmental Quality Act and you said it was
actually signed by Ronald Reagan. Doesn't approve they rode the
hell is paved with good intentions, It certainly does. I mean,
that's that's the thought that Ronald Reagan would be rolling
into grave with that. And I used to think that
the only mistake that Ronald Reagan made was when he
(01:52:35):
granted amnesty the three million people. But maybe this is
number two.
Speaker 6 (01:52:40):
I think it's a similar logic, right you. It really
presupposes good intentions in the people who would follow up
that act. I mean, you talk about the amnesty that
he that he sort of spearheaded, right, you know, if
the country actually took its border seriously and it reformed
its immigration process and whatnot. You know, granting an amnesty
like that for one time and then fixing the rest
(01:53:01):
of it for all time wouldn't have been that offensive
to anyone. The problem was that everybody that came after
him decided to just pretend like we didn't have a
border and pretend like we actually didn't need to manage
that situation whatsoever. And the same is true here. He
assumed that some very minor, some very marginal environmental protections
was you know, something that was worth doing and to
(01:53:21):
try to protect people and whatnot. I probably, you know,
if I could go back in time, would have told
him not to do it. But the problem was everyone
that came after him and everybody. See, the thing about
government is they always build on what exists. You are
creating a base upon which everyone is going to build upon.
They will never pull them back, they will only add
to them. So that's one of the reasons why I
(01:53:43):
always tell people on the political right, never agree ever
to expand government to you know, have a new department
to grow things, because twenty years, thirty years from now,
that little baby thing that you just created, that seed
will germinate and create a plant, and you know, Department
of Educations like that, right, started as a little thing,
and now it's taken over our entire lives federally. This
(01:54:05):
happens all the time, you.
Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
Know, Matt. Even though I'm in my deep seventies now
and my short term memory is not as good as
it was when I was in my forties, my long
term memories pretty good. I can remember when I was
a young teenager, like thirteen, fourteen years old, hearing news
in California about fires, floods, mud slides, the need for water.
(01:54:31):
And at that time, the population of California was fourteen
million people. Now it's so for forty million people. They've
done nothing to solve these problems. Over fifty years. They've
done nothing to solve these problems. Over fifteen years you
talk about, You talked about New York City. New York
(01:54:53):
City got so bad they have finally elected somebody like
Rudy Giuliani to clean it up. But again, does California
have to get to the bottom of the drain before
they start to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps?
(01:55:16):
Does it have to get that bad? Cannot people learn
from lessons that they've experienced already?
Speaker 6 (01:55:23):
You would hope, so you would hope.
Speaker 5 (01:55:24):
So.
Speaker 6 (01:55:25):
I think there is one key element that we need
to make sure that we also acknowledge too. It's not
just that the opportunity has provided to you because the
state or the city, or you know, the country or
whatever has fallen to such a state. You also have
to have the ability to take advantage of that failure.
And the thing about Juliani was that he made sense
to a lot of people in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Right.
Speaker 6 (01:55:45):
He was a law and order justice kind of guy,
and he was, you know, all about cleaning things up,
and he's well spoken, and he was able to really
take how people felt and turn it into something that
was politically potent that would allow him to win. I
think you definitely saw that with Trump and both of
his election wins, certainly this last one which was far
more successful with him having the popular vote, and one
(01:56:06):
on I think in California it's going to require not
only everyone being fed up, but somebody or a movement
has to be there, be able to actually say to people, look,
you are unhappy, here is why you are unhappy, and
here is a better way forward that'll fix these things.
And in telling, unless someone like that comes around, to
be able to actually articulate to people. I think they're
(01:56:26):
going to be waiting for change, right, Matt.
Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
Gun John, We want to thank you so much to join.
Matt is the chief executive officer of the Main Policy Institute. Hey, Matt,
please leave our audience with way to connect with you
to read the things that you write. Find out more
about the Main Policy Institute.
Speaker 6 (01:56:47):
Main Policy Institute can be found online at mainpolicy dot org.
We also have a substack at Mainpolicy dot substack dot com.
You can find me pretty much anywhere. I'm all over
the place, but I'm certainly on ex Twitter or whatever
it's called these days. You can find me there. And
I have my own substacked pretensive knowledge dot substack dot com,
so you can find me there as well. And I'm
always doing interviews like this, so anytime you see.
Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
My face, Hey Matt, do you miss the Swamp?
Speaker 6 (01:57:12):
Do I miss it? Absolutely not. I loved the city,
but I did not miss the swamp at all when
I left, all right, not in Elisha.
Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
Matt view Kenyon. Again, thank you so much for joining us,
Take care and God.
Speaker 6 (01:57:24):
Bless Thanks so much, guys, and.
Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Thank you so much. Rick, It's great to be here.
And I guess I wanted to start out the show
with my favorite topic, which is always election integrity and
what they're doing with the president's executive order. You know,
he had an executive order put out with seven points
(01:26):
and they're they're really nothing. I mean, the points are
already there in the law. That's the thing that really
gets you. And now the judges have decided to rule
against his executive order. There's no there there, So I
guess I wanted to go through first of all the.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Stuff currently seven points, and then I wanted to know
what judges again? Is it these low level district court judges?
Once again? See, I really think that the Supreme Court
needs to be ready to step in on these rulings automatically.
(02:07):
You know, like tomorrow at the Supreme Court they're going
to discuss Trump's tars at the Supreme Court. All right now,
I don't know how long this has been in the course,
but the Supreme Court needs to step in on this
all the time. And you're going to tell us the
seven points, and you already told us that these seven
points are already in the law. So where are these
(02:29):
judges coming from?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, and when you when you look at it, you'll see,
you know, okay, maybe maybe this much, they've got room
to do this. But really the first point is voter
roll maintenance. Clean up the voter rolls. This is no
Brier Executive Order one four two four eight, right, and
(02:54):
it's in his executive order, but already in PAVA I
Help America Vote Act and NVRA, which is the National
Voter Registration Act already they say that they must make
a reasonable effort to remove ineligible voters. So the executive
(03:14):
order just directs the Attorney General to act against vote
the states that aren't cleaning up their roles. So that's
all he does. He says, enforce that law, the one
they're already there. Just enforce it, right. The second point
of the executive order is that they must prove that
(03:35):
they are a citizen. Aready already in NVRA it says
they must self attest under penalty of perjury to be citizens.
So they they already have to check the box saying
I'm a citizen. The only difference is right now they
don't have to show documentation, but with the executive order,
(03:58):
they do. They have to show documentary proof that they're
a US citizen if they have, if they are coming
from a foreign country, they have to show that. Now
your smart I D or.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Whatever they what is that?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
The the one that you have to have to get
on the airplane. It's not smart, but I think everybody
I can't think of there there real real your real ID.
The reason I call it smart is because encoded within
(04:36):
that real ID is your proof of citizenship. So if
you have a real id. It shows whether or not
you are. But honestly, to get a real idea, you
have to be a citizen. So you know there's there's that.
The third thing is the end active voter waiting periods.
(04:57):
The Executive of Murder doesn't shorten bypass the two federal
election laws that waiting periods before the voter can be purged,
so it just says enforce this. There is a long
waiting period. You have to miss at least one election
(05:17):
before they can send you a postcard saying we noticed
you didn't vote. Are you still here? If they fail
to answer that, then you wait for the next election,
and if they don't vote again, then you send them
(05:39):
another card that says we noticed you didn't vote in
two elections. Please respond to we're taking you off the
active role and putting you on the inactive role. Then
they have to be on the inactive role before they
can and have missed those two two more elections basically,
(06:01):
so it's six elections altogether. You haven't voted for six years,
So three elections six years. You haven't voted for six years.
They can finally say we're removing you, and at any
time you can come back and say, wait a second,
don't remove me. I just haven't voted, but I'm going
to vote now. So Sharon just put them on an
(06:23):
inactive list, and all the executive Varder says is to
enforce that law. Don't wait, Sharon.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know me, I always vote right at my courthouse
using an absentee ballot. Well, when I went down there
last week to vote, guess what I was on the
inactive voter list. You know what I voted in the
last election. I voted in the last election, which was
the presidential election. I didn't vote in the primary election
(06:52):
because I don't I don't associate myself with the Republican
Party per se. You know, I usually vote Reportuplican, but
I'm not I'm not registered as a Republican, Okay, but
I end up on the inactive list. I ended up
on the inactive list. And last year was a presidential election,
(07:14):
and you know, Rick Trader did not miss the presidential
election classified as an act.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So it's there is a there is a disconnect here
on who gets on the inactive list. But generally speaking,
it's kind of difficult to get on the inactive list.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So not for me, not for you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Not for rec Trader. No, okay. So we're discussing the
sixth Executive Order one four two four eight, which is
Trump's executive order on election integrity. The fourth provision is
that voter databases for voter eligibility verification requires the federal
(07:58):
agencies to give state across states access to immigration lists,
deathless identification records, those kinds of things. LAVA will help
America Vote Act just suggested that they could do that
(08:18):
if they wanted to, so that they could they could
go to other lists and see if someone had died
or you know, just do those registration matches with other lists,
which is helpful to decide where a person is, if
they died, where they were, did they get naturalized, those
(08:38):
kinds of things. And so it's just a suggestion in
the national law, and Trump said, no, we're going to
make it. So they required these federal agencies to share
their information. The fifth provision is election date deadlines. So
this he man dates that all ballots must be received
(09:03):
by election day, and in fact, we have an election
day here in in Nevada, and he based this all
day ballots must be received by election day based on
(09:23):
our laws federally as well, and based on some codes
that tell you when election day is, and it's been
there for hundreds of years now. The sixth provision is
to block Biden's executive order which implemented voter registration across
(09:45):
the federal agency. So anytime you go into a federal agency,
you get reregistered, and it's automatic. We have automatic registration
here at our DMV. Every time you make call to
the DMV, you get reregistered. And then the registrar or
(10:07):
the county clerk hast to mail out and say did
you want to be registered? Well, some people have religious
you know, like Jehovah witnesses, don't want to be registered
to vote. They don't vote. It's against their religion. So
they get irritated because now they're registered again and they
have to go in and unregistered. And every time they
(10:31):
make a trip to the Department of More Vehicles, this
happens to them autouomatically. They can't they don't have any
opt in or opt out say so at the DMV.
It just automatically happens. And Biden wanted to do that
across all federal agencies. So anytime you went to visit
the IRS or you know, the welfare officer or anything
(10:55):
that has to do with federal There you are automatically registered.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The problem with Joe Biden's there is anybody goes to
the DMV gets registered, even non citizens.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
The fillains you know, people that have had their citizenship
there rights revoked. Like I said, there's religious reasons, there's
there's just plain personal reasons why you don't want to
be on that voter registration rule. So anyway, uh, he
revoked that, So he's blocked that said, that's not going
(11:34):
to happen. And then the seventh one is that the
voting System Standards and security requires a paper ballot and
this allows encoded only barcodes. Help America Vote Act mandates
that the voting system standards include voter verifiable audit trails. Well,
what he's doing is providing the audit trail, which is
(11:56):
that has to be on paper, so that if you
have to go back and do a recount, you don't
have to use whatever the machine told you. You actually
can see the ballot. And the way they have it
set up now in Nevada and many states are going
to this is that you go to a machine and
(12:19):
you do it like you did. You check all of
the boxes that you want to vote for, and then
it prints out a ballot. You look at that printed
ballot to make sure that all the boxes that you
checked are the ones that you want. So it's basically
a printer. It is what it is. You take that
printed ballot to a tabulator and you slip it into
(12:42):
the tabulator and you watch it count your votes on
that machine. If for some reason you need to have
a handcount or verify the votes that went to a
certain election, every one of those ballots is there and
you can actually see the paper ballot and people can
(13:06):
actually count it. So they are getting to that place
where they can they can provide a very secure and
give confidence to you that you know, I got my ballot,
I cast my ballot. And none of these are hooked
up to the internet, these machines, and so hopefully this
(13:28):
time through we will have less question about what's going
to happen in our roles, but I mean in our elections.
But now back to what the court did. So, a
federal judge walked his efforts to protect election integrity by
(13:50):
requiring proof of United States citizenship on voter registration forms,
finding that Trump lacks the authority to direct such changes. Remember,
he didn't make a change in the federal law with
regard to this. The for A law says you have
to be a citizen to vote. The JAVA or Help
(14:13):
America Vote Act and the National Voter Registration Act say
that you have to attest to it. You have to say,
under penalty of perjury, that you are a citizen before
you will be allowed to vote. All Trump said is
that instead of just taking your word for it, we
(14:33):
want to see documentary proof. We want to make sure
that you really are a citizen. Provide your documentary proof,
which is a birth certificate, passport. You know, there are
all kinds of documentary proofs that you.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Think that everyone should have anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And you put those on file and you're good to go.
But what he's saying is basically he's saying, I think
you might lie to me, and in fact we probably
have good evidence. In fact, we have some proof. Even
in the battle. We had a case about twelve years
ago now where an illegal alien had voted in every
(15:11):
election and what they finally caught her doing was voting.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Twice and as citizen, make a citizens arrest if they
noticed somebody has voted illegally.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
They can, but you know the citizens arrest. Yeah, well,
a citizens arrest is always verified by the police.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
All right, let's get that break in and you are
listening to the Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angle. I'm Rick Trader.
We're talking about voting, voting rights and what rights you
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And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders with
Sharon Engel and I'm Rick Trader, coming to you from
the Michaelis Studios and My Store studios of the a
U n TV Network. In the first segment, Sharon and
I were talking about voter integrity, how Donald Trump has
been suited again by one of these district judges will
(18:04):
start trying to stop his executive orders, and Sharon, we
left off with citizens arrest. Can I, as a citizen
arrest someone who has voted illegally tell us about citizens arrest?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, it varies from state to state, so I just
looked up in my state, but I think that there
are probably similar requirements. It says that in Nevada, citizens
arrest is legal under specific conditions. So that's the thing
that makes me think that each state is going to
(18:41):
have a specific condition for a public offense committed or
attempted in a person's presence. This means that if you
witness someone committing your crime, you can detain them until
law enforcement arrives when a felony has been committed, even
if not in the person's presence. If you have a
(19:03):
reasonable cause to believe that a felony has occurred and
that person you are entertaining is the perpetrator, you can
also make that arrest, but you have to wait until
law enforcement arrives. And for misdemeanors or gross misdemeanors. You
can only arrest someone for these offense if you've witnessed
the crime being committed, so a felony. You know, I
(19:26):
think we're using this specifically for voting purposes. If you
commit some kind of voting crime, that would be a felony,
So under that you would you could make that arrest,
and then that you'd have to wait till law enforcement arrives.
(19:48):
You can only use force necessary to detain the subjects,
so you can't use force if you're not wanting to
detain them. Deadly force is not permitted unless you are
acting in self defense, so you can't, you know, pull
(20:09):
a gun on him, I guess, but I'm not a lawyer,
so I'm not sure what constitutes steadily forced. If a
citizen's arrest is deemed unlawful, the person making the arrest
could face criminal charges or civil liability. This includes potential
(20:30):
restitution payments to the person who has unlawfully detained. Therefore,
it is crucial tossert sure that the arrest is justified
under the law. So what they're saying is you better
make sure that they actually did the crime, or you
then will be punished for detaining them illegally well shared.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I also looked up citizens arrested in Jersey. Was very
similar to what you read. But then I looked up
citizens arrest in New Jersey of voting crimes. What I
got was in New Jersey, a private citizen may make
a citizen's arrest for certain voting crimes under specific and
limited conditions, but doing so is complex and carry significant
(21:17):
legal risks. The safest course of action is to have
observed the situation, report it immediately to a law enforcement
or state election hotline, and let trained officials handle it.
That kind of makes sense. But you know what, Sharon,
if you see somebody voting who you know is not
(21:42):
legally voting for maybe even you suspect that this person
is not a legal voter, then you should report it.
Then you should call you police.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I think we're so surprised by it when we see it.
I'm reminded of a fellow in Elco that came up
to me after I was there speaking on election integrity,
and he says, well, this happened to me. My name
is Fred Smith, and I went went into my voter
registrar to vote on election day and I stepped up
(22:16):
to the window and the guy next to me said
to the clerk, my name is fred Smith and I
want my ballot m h. And he said, wait a second,
I'm fred Smith, and the guy next to him said, oh,
so sorry, my mistake, and turned around and left. He
was so shocked by it, and so were the people
(22:39):
behind the desk that they just stood there and looked
at one another. One a fellow went and got in
his car and drove away. So what they could have
done was gone out and got a yes, yeah, you know,
the the license plate number and all of those things.
But I think that that's just a case of where
(23:03):
when we see it sometimes we're so shocked by it
that we don't realize what we should do, and after
it's happened, the should of what it could is come
in and we don't have that same opportunity anymore because
that person was using your name. So how do you know, right,
how do you know? This is why we need voter
(23:27):
ID because that is the proof, that is the thing
that says, yes, I am this person, Yes I should
be voting this ballot so that Fred Smith doesn't get
his ballot stolen. That's one of the purposes for that
deputizing that person behind the the that's take that are
(23:51):
watching the polls might also be a determ just because
they know if they try to do this, there's somebody
that it's not going to make a citizens arrest. This
has a little more official flavor to it. This is
someone who's really able to determine whether a crime has
(24:13):
been committed or not. So that would make a stronger deterrent,
as you say, to doing something like this. But with
mail in ballots, you don't get that same opportunity to
test not just for citizenship, but just for who are you,
(24:34):
because mail in ballots have that opportunity for anyone to
vote those ballots. One person I know got seven ballots
in the mail. Now he turned those in, that's how
we know he got seven, but he could just as
well have voted them all. So you know, there is
(24:55):
a problem with mail in ballots in that the opportunity
is there or for mischief. And that's why as we
tighten this up, and I believe that the president is
right not to trust you to tell the truth by
checking the box as a citizen that we do mean documentation. However,
(25:21):
this judge calling Kohler Cotelli obviously doesn't agree. She thinks
that it's good enough to go on there, say so. Rick,
I wanted you to hear what our President had to
say about this judge and her decision, and what he
(25:42):
said when she said you can't do this. He said, free, fires, fair,
and honest elections, unmarred by fraud, errors, or suspicion, are
fundamental to maintaining our constitutional republic. The right of Americans
to have their votes properly counted and tabulated without illegal
(26:04):
elution is vital to determining the rightful winner of an
election under the safety Under the Constitution, state governments must
safeguard American elections in compliance with federal laws that protect
americans voting rights and guard against the lution by illegal voting, discrimination, fraud,
(26:26):
and other forms of malfeasance and error. Yet the United
States has not adequately enforced federal election requirements that, for example,
prohibit states from counting ballots received after election day or
prohibit non citizens from registering to vote. So right, and
(26:46):
I couldn't have said it better. And that's why the
executive order was made. And this judge now is saying, yeah,
they're say so is enough? And she's striking down his
ability to mandate this, which I think every citizen should
(27:06):
know that we have an activist judge one more time
judge calling Coller Hotel a federal judge blocking the rights
of citizens to have a fair, free, honest folk.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I would not be a bit surprised if that
was an Obama judge, or a no Biden judge, or
a Clinton judge. And with that, Sharon, I knew we
were going to go along on this segment. But you
are listening to and watching the Conservative Commandos with Sharon Angle.
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And as we thank you for saying with this, this
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Store studios of the a U N TV network. So Sharon,
we left the last segment. We're talking about this federal judge,
(29:40):
a DC federal judge who is trying to stop President
Trump's executive order on election integrity. What else do we
know about this woman?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, we know that she was appointed by William Rehnquist,
but it was under the Bill Clinton administration. So she's
been there a long time. And that's that, I guess
brings up this whole idea that once you're appointed to
the bench, you stay for your lifetime. These are lifetime appointments.
(30:17):
They don't just go away. So she's been there, like
I said, a long time. She's a senior judge now.
But one of the most interesting pieces of all of
her resume is that she was the judge who found
(30:41):
a dominic box. And I don't know exactly what she
found him guilty of. Let's see, he participated in the
January sixth capital attacks guilty on six charges. So we
know that most of those jan sixth charges were Trump
(31:01):
up and not to be punning, but the six charges
are you know, this is this was a political I
guess that is what I'm saying. She was the judge
who found him guilty on six charges, and before he
(31:23):
was sentenced, Donald Trump pardoned him, and this judge then
criticized Donald Trump's blake had pardons. So to me, she's
looking was looking for something that she could retaliate with
against Donald Trump, and this was it. So to me,
(31:45):
this is a political warfare here. She she is proving
her dominance over the presidency. Right, the judges, well have
the last word. The president may think that he's in charge,
but we really are. That's what this judge is saying
(32:08):
to me is that she had a personal reason to
deny his executive order and this was it. She had
made this, as I say, a political sentencing of this
fellow for whatever she felt his participation was in January sixth,
(32:33):
and then and then when Trump pardoned this fellow, she
made it her personal vendetta to get back at him.
And this is one of those ways. And she's just
asserting herself here into this by saying, I will have
(32:53):
the last say, so, mister president.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I just picked up dominic box. It says he waved
the right to a jury trial and declined a plea
deal offered by the prosecutors, opting instead for a bench
trial overseen by a Kohler or whatever name is, in
which Box admitted his involvement while retaining his appeal rights.
(33:21):
The ruling was the case delayed in part by the
US Supreme Court decision issued shortly after his trial, in
which justice is ruled that obstruction of an official proceeding
the most serious of charges box space, does not apply
to January sixth defendants. Box argued that dismissal of the
(33:46):
extruction charges were necessities the missal of all remaining charges,
but the judge ruled against him, writing in his writing
that his arguments quote lack merit. Sentencing has not been scheduled.
Box face several years in prison, as each of his
(34:09):
two felony conviction carries up to five years of imprisonment.
And you know, here is a guy who was offered
a deal. He said, no, I want to go to trial.
I went a jury charge. I want to judge a
bench trial. But the problem is the problem is he
got the wrong judge. He absolutely got his wrong day wrong.
(34:33):
You got the wrong judge.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
That is even I've missed some statement by you. Because
this judge is a judge with senior status, and what
that means is she's semi retired. She doesn't take a
full workload. They typically handle about fifteen percent of the
Federal Court's workload annually, So there is she didn't even
(34:59):
have to be that one judge. Roberts said that senior
judges are eligible for retirement with full pay, but still
continue to work, most in a part time capacity. So
but they don't get additional compensation for their work. But
(35:21):
this is so her status as a court judge did
not meant that she didn't need to be the one
that was on this case at all. And that even
says that they chose her specifically. So that and I
(35:42):
wonder how many others of the jan six offenders were
given to senior judges because they don't carry the same
weight as another judge. You know that some of the
Federal Court judges being a pointed might be taken out
(36:03):
of their appointment or or you know.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
What it says to me, Yes, she could retire, but
she just wants to be a pinioned about to Donald Trump.
And she's afraid if she resigns that her her place
is going to be uh, her seat is going to
be given to a Trump judge. You know, Sharon, maybe
it is time. Maybe it is time to get the
(36:30):
federal government out of wash out of Washington, d C. Seriously, seriously,
let's move it. Let's move it somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, don't you think also that it's time to consider
the role of judges and that Congress needs to act.
These judges are are overreaching their constitutional duties and they
are legislating from the bench. This is one of those
(37:02):
cases where he issued an executive order completely within his
legal parameters of his office and said, I just want
to make sure that it's not just your word about citizenship.
(37:23):
I just want to know for sure that you are
a citizen. Give me a document. And she's saying, no,
you can't require that document. Not because it's against the
law to require that document, not because the law doesn't
say that you have to be a citizen. It's her
(37:43):
personal opinion, really, and so she is putting her personal
opinion into the law rather than deciding.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
On what the law says.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
And when that happens, we call that legislating from the bench.
And we know that court precedence is really has almost
the same force and effect as law. So they are
making laws through that judicial branch, and the Congress needs
to say you can't do that, and anything that you've
(38:16):
done in the past is not legal because you can't
do that. It's not within your right to make laws
from the manch and it's completely within the Congressional right
to do that was given to them by the Constitution.
So that's my feeling on it is that we need
(38:39):
to ring these judges in and it's duty to do that.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I agree, I agree, big time, big time. Well, Sharon,
let's get another break in Why we have to It's
the law and this is the Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angle.
I'm a trader going nowhere, Sharon, and I'll be back
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Speaker 2 (43:17):
I suppose this is on my radar screen because the
person I'm running against in Nevada has taken money from
the Sorows brothers. Nice nice, right, and so Souruce's Open
Society has given eighty million dollars to pro terror groups. Well,
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they found that these groups include Center for Third World Organizing,
a militant party partner of Rockets Society, which trains activists
and property destruction and sabotage during the twenty twenty riots,
the Sunrise Movement, which endorsed the Antifa link Stop Cop
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City campaign, which activists currently face over forty domestic terrorism
charges and sixty racketeering indictments. They awarded eighteen million to
a Movement for Black Lives, a group that authorized the
Radical Guide that glorifies Hamas October seventh massacre and instructed
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Africa's advoc activists to use false IDs, blockades and economic disruption.
They also funnel more than two point three million into
All Hawk, a non governmental organization in Goo based on
the West Bank which is now Judy and Samaria, we
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don't call it that anymore, and also has ties to
Popular Front for the Liberal of Palestine. So it's inside
and outside the country that they are fomenting this terror.
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So you know, all of that said that, I believe
anybody who is taking money from those kinds of sources
is probably at least turning a blind eye to what
they do, if not agreeing with what they do.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
I agree with that. I totally agree with that. That's
you know, one of the things I'd love to see
President Trump and Cash Patel and Pam BONDI get to
is the foundations like the Tied Foundation, sous and god
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knows what the motivation for this man is. Is the
only way that I could look at is to destroy
the United States the way it is. That's the only
thing I can get at. But I agree anybody that's
taking money. You know, a lesson I learned from my
mother a long time ago is you're judged by who
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you associate with. And it seems like anybody that associates
with George Sorows or any of his money, they're bad people.
They're bad people, and they need to be pointed out.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
The you know, it's interesting how they always tell the
truth about what they're about. And George so Sorow's naming
his foundation open Society. Talks about globalism, doesn't it no borders?
Everybody's one world order. The whole idea that we break
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down a society in order to make it a world
society or a global society. And how do we do that?
How does sorrows think that's the best way to do it?
It's through this terrorism it's through hiring people to cause
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disruptions within society that caused the reaction of military and
police force to put down these kinds of terrorists insurrections,
and of course anytime that the military or the police
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come into a situation, it's often difficult to tell the
innocent from the guilty in a situation like that, because
they do get the useful idiots out to these protests.
They may hire people to go in and get the
protests started, but then some locals will come in and say, oh, yeah,
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I think they're right, and they'll pick up a sign,
or maybe they get paid for picking up the sign.
They haven't got any idea where this is going. They're
just there because they got paid for it, or they
thought that sounded good and so they stood up for
that cause. So it's very difficult when someone like that
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then gets caught up in the police gragnet, and then
that person becomes the focal point rather than what started
it in the first place. In you know, we were
just talking about John six. That's what happened, is that
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they had terrorists that were inciting the crowd, not inciting
them to violence, but just saying directing them. You need
to go to the capital. You need to go inside
the capital, you need to you know, they invited them
in and these people were just going for a They
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thought they were going for a tour of the capital,
and what they got caught in was a dragnet. Not
for the terrorists. Those people by and large escaped. We
do know some of them that started that, but there
were a lot of innocent people caught up in that dragnet,
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prosecuted for crimes that they weren't even involved in. They
were just touring the capital. They were just there. There
are people on watch lists that weren't even there, but
they had a ticket to go, and they found out
that they were in the DC area during that time,
and now they've been questioned. So it has really opened
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up as such a broad investigation that there's been push
back then from those of us who are freedom loving
saying you can't do this to innocent citizens. But it
was all started and I think we could probably trace
it back if we wanted to, to something like Soros's
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open society. It was an attempt to cause domestic violence
in order to disrupt a peaceful society and move us
forward into an open society.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Sure, before we get to the end of this segment,
which is the end of the show, before we start
our interviews, you had mentioned that your opponent in a
race for a secretary of State is taking money from
the TIDES Foundation. Why would why would somebody who's running
for secretary of State in a state like Nevada, what
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would ideological how would they mesh with the TIDES Foundation
and George Sorrows.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Well, I need to correct you. The the money actually
comes from individuals. They are two of Sorrows's sons, not
this Alexander who is with the Open Society Foundation.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
But it is and it doesn't matter if it's from
George himself or one of his sons.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
And this goes back to two thousand and six I believe.
I'll have to check my dates, but George Sorows started
a Secretary of States project, and this project was to
get Secretary of States into the battleground states. So it
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was just a very limited project where he would put
in people chosen because they were attorneys first, because they
were aligned with his ideology, the democrat ideology second. But
really I believe their directive was probably to weaponize, centralize,
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and politicize that office. And so there you have. It's
a continuation of the Soros Secretary of State's project, he said,
since then abandoned it as a dormant but he started
another project, which is the eternal Attorney General's project. And
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those attorney generals have that same agenda. And because they
work so closely with the Secretary of State and the
prosecution of election crimes, it has become that you need both,
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You need the Attorney General and the Secretary of State
to keep those prosecutions down. So I believe that it does.
And of course we've talked about this open society. The
underlying purpose for it is to weaken America so that
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they can have a global society, weaken the borders. That's
why this judge that we've been talking about has said no, no,
just you say so is good enough. You don't have
to die of documentation, and has kicked the executive order
out based on that, because it's another part of this
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weakening our system, the basic system that ensures our freedom.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Suar, and I wish we had more time because that
triggers another thought, how people that are coming here illegally
are not coming here to assimilate into our society. They're
coming here to bring their society from wherever they come
from here and make our society theirs. But that's for
another time because we've got to go for breaking. Right
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after this break, we're going to be playing some of
the best of interviews here in the Conservative Commandos. I'm
Ritury to my cos to Sharon Angle. We'll be back
with those interviews right after this break.
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Speaker 1 (56:17):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commander this
radio show with Sharon Angele and you're Shulely rich Rader
coming to you from the My Pillow Studio, the Maisterre
Studios of the au n TV network and sharing this
next guest. I've oh, I've had communications with for quite
some time, and I said Frank if you ever get
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the skypework that we're going to make your regular guests
here in Conservative Commandos and we're improving it. Sharon, please
make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
So it's my pleasure to introduce Frank Salvado, who is
the co host of the Underground USA podcast. His writing
has been recognized by the US House International Relationships Committee
and the Japan Center for Conflict Prevention. His analysis has
been published by the American Enterprise Institute, The Washington Times,
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National File, and Accuracy and Media, and it's nationally syndicated.
Frank appeared on The Oreli Factor on Fox News Channel
and is the author of six monographs examining internal and
external threats facing our country. He can be heard twice
weekly on The Captain's America Third Watch radio programs syndicated
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nationally on the Salem Broadcasting Network and Genesis Communications affiliate stations. Frank,
welcome back to the Conservative Commandos radio show.
Speaker 5 (57:45):
Always a pleasure to spend some time.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
It's our pleasure, Frank, and we want to discuss an
article you wrote the Left Stupidity Games. I'm not even
sure where to start on this, but you start with
DEI I'll start there with you. So let's talk about
this stuff.
Speaker 5 (58:05):
There are so many of these stupidity games that it
is hard to know where to begin. But Dei is
the chief among them. For them to say that it's
about creating fairness and opportunity is just a flat out lie.
Dei is a discriminatory practice that that elevates special interest
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groups above the whole. It's you know, it's especially And
this isn't a popular thing to say because people get
a little squeamish about it. But if you're a white
heterosexual male in the in the Western culture, in the
woke Western culture, you are the demon. You are you
are the person we're all blame lies, and you shall
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be demonized from this point forward. Well, when you remove
the Dei philosophy, that ideology from the mix, and you
create opportunity for all on an equal plane instead of
equity of outcome, we get back to being colorblind, which
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is kind of where we were. I don't know, maybe
everybody else's experience isn't the same as mine, but we
were kind of there at the end of the eighties
and the beginning of the nineties where we were moving
beyond the color of somebody's skin, and we were actually
looking at the content of their character and whether they
had merit to hold the station that they were holding.
(59:35):
You know, with Barack Obama coming into power, suddenly we
were all racist again, less you were anything other than
a white HETEROSEXU in the world.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Well, I think you're right, Frank. I know, we have
always been kind of there in the West. It has
always been shocking to me that when you get a
little bit east of the Mississippi start to run into
this stuff. But for the most part we were pretty
much any everybody's okay with us. And then Obama hit
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and that I guess that was the one where you know,
they started making a problem of something that wasn't a problem,
calling it out as a problem. When Obama got in
and he was going to straighten that out, but he
really didn't, did it, Frank.
Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
No, No, As a matter of fact, he supercharged it.
You know, he supercharged it. He wasn't truthful about the past.
He helped facilitate things like the sixteen nineteen project and
the institutionalized racism and law enforcement, which the numbers just
aren't there to validate that statement. Even if you go
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to the most jaded set of numbers from the FBI
and the history. There's no proof of that whatsoever, yet
the media ran with it. I like to remind people,
and it's just something that history isn't teaching anymore, probably
because they're just not teaching history anymore in the in
elementary schools and high schools, and we absolutely are teaching
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it in higher education. That's all in doctrination today.
Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
But we're the.
Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Only country on the face of the earth throughout the
history of men who ever went to war to say
that slavery races it. It's all wrong, it's all wrong.
You know, we count six hundred thousand Americans who put
their lives on the line, and many of them giving
(01:01:42):
the ultimate sacrifice, to say this is wrong, and we're
not going to do this anymore. Even the Framers, which
the left likes to demonize all the time, at their core,
whether they were trapped in the institutions of the time
or not, we're saying we've got to get rid of this.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
And I think, as you say, we're the most impartial country,
I mean, we're the melting pot, and we've had our
little hiccups through history. And as you say that, we
even fought a big war just to say, is this wrong.
We once in a while have to do a little
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course correction. I mean, Martin Luther King said he made
a course correction on this. But then it seems like
this has just gone completely off its rails and we
are back to what I feel like is even worse
than before we fought the war, if that's possible. I mean,
(01:02:48):
I'm hearing things like people that are taking in Haitian
refugees now are saying, this is the greatest thing I
ever did. Did they do my laundry, they do my cooking,
they clear in my house. Everybody should have a Haitian
what I just want to bang my head on the
table over at you know, it's just nuts to hear
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that kind of commentary.
Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
Yeah, there's a there's a meme going around that's addressing
the issue at the southern border and the fact that
we're closing it because there's a way to come to
our country in a way not to come to our country.
And it says it juxtaposes the days of slavery in
the United States. That says, but if we free the slaves,
who will pick our cotton? And the next panel is
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today and it says, well, if we don't have illegal
immigrants who will pick our who will harvest our vegetables.
That's the kind of mentality that you know, it's an
entitled mentality that really shouldn't exist here in the twenty
first century here in the United States, but it does.
And why because the left operates off chaos. They need
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to have the crisis. It's an Olynski rule that they
need to have the crisis to create the chaos so
they can introduce the solution, which is always something that
they're in complete control of. You know. It's the transformative
power that the left wants to project on the United States,
and it's a it's a transformative power that has absolutely
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nothing to do with individualism or freedom. It has to
do with we doing what we're told. Wear your mask,
get vaccinated, don't question what we're doing. Spending is good,
open borders are better, and we should listen to the globalists.
That's what they want. But a free thinking nation that's
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built on liberty, freedom, and individualism, we get to say
no and we get to question things. And that's why
you see them coming one against free speech. They don't
like to call it that. They'd like to say they're
they're promoting facts checking and disinformation and misinformation. But the
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fact is they're trying to control what's being said in thought,
and that's something we all have to rebel against.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Well, what you're talking about is the insults that we
have been receiving on our end. I think the first
one that just shocked me was for President Obama to
say that we were ignorant clinging to our guns and religion.
That was I mean, it was the most insulting thing
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to the majority of our country. And they have now
so badly infiltrated many of our institutions. The military, I
can't think of any institution that is more level In fact,
boot camp is all about making everybody equal. You don't
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come in with your daddy's name, you know, you know,
you come in there and you you don't even get
to keep your own underwear. I mean, you're just there.
You don't get to keep your hair, your sideburns, your mustache,
you're anything. You are leveled. Everybody becomes the same in
the military, and then they build you into a fighting
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unit where everybody watches everybody's back. But that's not the
way it is anymore in the military. It's just astounding.
Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
Well, hopefully with Hagsiths, we're turning that corner and getting
back to it. The the cancelation of DEI practices at
the Pentagon was just so important, so important. And then
the and the idea of urging ideologues, whether there's civilian
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employees or appointments or whether they're wearing the uniform. You know,
just because you're wearing a uniform doesn't mean that you're
not susceptible to that kind of indoctrination and thinking, we've
got to get back to our military being the fighting
machine that's feared around the world and revered by people
who are oppressed, and leave the nation building, which was
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something that Obama wanted to do so badly with our
military to the State Department. You know, our war machine
should be a war machine, you know, and not an
NGO organization that's that's building hospitals and this, that and the other.
It's a wonderful thing to do, don't get me wrong.
You know, you want to help develop a nation. You
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want to you want us to be seen as the
good guys on the world stage. That's great, but that's
what USAID is for. That's what the State Department is
for it's not what our warriors are for. Our warriors
are there to protect the United States, our assets, our interests,
and our people in our country. So let them have
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that singular job. It's like the Secret Service. How about
we just have them do protection details for the elected
officials who warrant it, and let the FBI and the
Treasury Department deal with counterfeiting and everything else. Singular issues.
Singular focus always makes for a better apparatus.
Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Well, and I think that that is that idea piece
or strength. When you've got a focused military, everybody knows it,
and when you don't, everybody knows that too.
Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Frank Savado as a guess. He's the host of the
Underground USA podcast also puts out a newsletter, Underground USA,
which I'm proud to get every week. And Frank, thank
you for holding through that break. We appreciate your time anytime.
And always the left stupidity games, you know, Frank, DEI,
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I think what DEEI did is DEI gave lesson give
license for liberals to outstupid each other with the next
wacky idea. They try to outwacky each other. Frank, I
mean they got to one level then a deeper level
than a deeper level, and these seemed like they had
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to out wacky outstupid each other. And this is what
this is what's put us in the position that we
are in right now. How do you feel about that statement, Frank.
Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Well, it's accurate. I think it's the cause of it
is what we have to look at. And I think
the constitutional illiteracy of the far left and the tolerance
of it by the American people is something that allows
that kind of stupidity. You call it wackiness. I just
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call it stupidity to go forward in the halls of power,
which are supposed to be the halls that sanctify what
are ow documents and what we're supposed to be about
as American. If you get elected the office, a prerequisite
should be a pretty decent understanding of how it works.
(01:10:12):
And that doesn't mean how the political parties work, although
you should know that if you're going to go through
against sharing those this very well, if you're going through
the process of trying to get a nomination, you better
know how the political parties work. But that doesn't have
anything to do with governance. There's a set of rules
laid out by the US Constitution, and they are rained
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in by the Bill of Rights what the government can
and can't do, what they can step on, where they
can go their limitations. The Constitution and the Bill of
Rights are a set of limitations for a federal government,
each branch. And it seems to me the people who
are doing the wackiness, the stupidity, they either don't have
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a solid working knowledge of what those rules are and
how government's supposed to work, or they just don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Frank, I think the American people are too nice for
the room good because they accept this stuff and they
don't they want everybody to like them. They don't want
to be insulting. They don't want to look at some
girl with pink hair, tattoos all over her body, rings
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coming out of her nose, her eyebrow, her mouth and
say you're weird. You know, they're just afraid to say
what things really are because they don't want to be insulting.
And so he has gotten so far. When you put
point out the stupid, wacky ideas for what they are,
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stupid wacky ideas, then you're the demon. You're the demon.
And again I think we've gotten to this point. Americans
are just too nice. We should have been tough parents
from the beginning, and so and pointed out the weirdness
to whacking this. My gosh, you go through the mall today,
(01:12:17):
go through the mall today, and it's like going to
a freak show. The way people dress and what people
do to them with the rings and this tattoo and
the hair and the clothing. I mean, I was in
the hospital a couple of weeks ago and this girl
walked in with a pair of jeans and there was
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not much thread there. Frank, they were all ripped up.
I'm serious, from the from the top of the hips
to the ankles. These pants were all ripped up. So
you know what I said to her, Well, I'm glad
you survived the grizzly bear attack. We've just got We're
so nice, we've accepted this and the other. The other
(01:13:00):
thing that gets me about our culture today, and you
kind of alluded to it in your article here, And
I'll tell you where I'm going from. You know, for
years and years and years at least, since I was
a child in the and could understand things. In the
late fifties and through the sixties, it was integration, integration, integration.
(01:13:23):
We had to add segregation. But what has happened now
segregation is coming back, but it's not The segregation isn't
coming back through the white race. It's coming back from
people of color. You know, there are Harvard Harvard, there
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were there were classes and there were dorms for African
American students. Only whites were prohibited.
Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
I'm gonna I'm gonna drill down a little bit further. Yeah,
And and the saying you have to look at the
hierarchy that's instituting this lunacy. There are a lot of
white people in there who are doing this, So it's
really not a race thing. It is a power position
ideology type of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Sot me to stop.
Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
You there, let me stop you. I hate to interrupt guests,
But again, I think this is because of the wacky
stupity this that they that they try to olt wacky
and now stupid to each other. You know, they fall
over themselves to be nice, they fall over each other
come up with the next wacky, stupid idea. We have
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been including a lot of white people.
Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
We've been told for as long as I've been alive
that it's impolite to discuss politics and religion and current
events at the dinner table, that you shouldn't bring it
up with friends because people might think differently than you do.
That's where this started, this let's be polite thing. There
are ways to express yourself and talk about politics, religion,
(01:15:04):
current events, important things that aren't abrasive, that aren't that
aren't offensive. You have to use your language to do this,
and you have to make sure that you can. You
know you can have that conversation. But I say this
at the end of every single podcast that I have.
(01:15:25):
If you have these conversations, we all find out we
have more in common. Whether it's the girl with the
ripped up genes or the person with the thirty piercings
on our ear, we find out that we've got more
in common than we do in difference. And that spotlights
these deep state bureaucrats who thrive, whose only ability to
(01:15:45):
maintain power is to divide us into these demographics that
they can cobble together fifty one percent for election. If
we say no to that and work naturally, organically diverse,
that's what a big pot is. That's what Epler Bazoonam
is supposed to be. Out of many one when we
do that, then this deep state bureaucracy that wants to
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make sure that we're angry with each other and we
don't like this, and that person's outside and I'm inside,
and we can't have this anymore. They lose their power
because they can't organize us to get that fifty one
percent for the elections. That's when populism comes and explodes
on the scene, exactly what Donald Trump did.
Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Frank and your article. Well, before I go there, let
me say this in Chermonte, I love everything that flies.
Flying has been one of my passions in life. In fact,
many years ago, a friend and I built a little
airplane called an ultralight airplane. And for those of you
that don't know what altars are, their lawn chairs with
(01:16:54):
wings that are propelled by Snamma bill engines. Now have
to build something you want to you wanna see how
it works? Right? Well, I ended up flying this ultra
light from New Jersey to Florida, to Texas to California,
through Canada to Alaska to the Arc, circling back to
New Jersey, and in doing so, I kind of made
(01:17:16):
myself a little minor star in minor world of sport. Aviation.
The best thing that I got out of that whole experience, Frank,
is I met some of the best people you can imagine.
And some of those people were the Tuskegeeerman, you know,
I was fortunate to meet them while they were still alive.
I also met many, many, many woman wax who served
(01:17:41):
in the WASP as a ferrier pilots. And I spoke
with a guy by name of Gabby Garbeski, who was
the top American ace in the European theater in this
Second World War, and I said, Gabby, it says, you know,
I know it's a pilot. It can get pretty hairy.
You know, you can get real white knuckle. I can't
(01:18:03):
imagine flying an airplane and having somebody shoot at You
can't imagine it. So where I'm getting at is the Tuskegearman.
In my opinion, they were real heroes, and I think
they would have been great pilots even if the services
were integrated at that day, the Woman Air Force Service pilots,
(01:18:26):
they did a yeoman's job. But I'll tell you what
has happened today is once again these groups have been segregated.
They've been segregated. The Tueske gearmen were great pilots. But
it seems like whenever you talk about aviation history, you
gotta put in there the Teskegee pilots. You just can't
(01:18:48):
talk about the great pilots of World War Two when
you talk about the WASP. Well, now you know the
reason they were ferrying aircraft is at the time and
we did not want our women in combat. Now, to
be fair to everybody, we got to put our women
in combat. And some of those women have suffered. Some
(01:19:13):
of those women were taken prisoner during the Golf War,
and some of the treatment that they went through is
almost unspeakable. And the things that were done to them
that the perpetrators were on the streets of New York
or Philadelphia deserve to be in jail for long periods
of time. But this political correctness, Frank, this political correctness ole.
(01:19:38):
Whenever you talk about aviation, you got to include the
Tuskee Gierman. Whenever you talk about baseball, you got to
include a conversation about Jackie Robinson. I mean, here we go,
we're another couple of weeks, We're coming up on the
Super Bowl. You know what the big work, Oh, two
African American quarterbacks I mean, when you look at the
(01:20:01):
quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs, he looks more white
than black. But the conversation is another matchup between African
American quarterbacks. Frank, what I'm getting at is, I would
love love to stop talking about race, looping, separating. Then
we need to start.
Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
Then we need to stop talking about race. There's there's
someone there who is a regent of the University of
California system, but the name of Ward Connorley, who I'm
friends with, and that's what he's been saying for almost
twenty years. You want to erase race, erase it, stop
talking about it. When we when we're constantly going back,
even even if we're taking issue with it, we're still
(01:20:42):
talking about race.
Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
The point that I was making about the Tuskegee Airman
and the wasps in my latest article was that di co
opted it and they made it. They tried to make
it their issue to be able to pontificate on and
say this something we're pushing in our training. And somebody
who makes these decisions, and I think that he would
(01:21:07):
fall into your category of the wacky, made a decision
that well, you know, if he wants to get rid
of the EI, then we got to get rid of
this history. We can't teach this lesson anymore. So that's
the way we've got to be. That's disingenuous at every level.
You know, it's part of the history of the Air Force.
You teach the history of the Air Force, you don't
(01:21:29):
need to mention race, you don't need to mention gender,
you know, but you don't shy away from it. Why
it's reality. So we say what it is. With the
Skegee Airmen, Yeah, they were a black squadron. They they
did great work. God bless them. I'm glad they were there.
The women who of the wasps excellent. I commend them.
(01:21:51):
They did a great service. They were all part of
the team. But as Americans, we don't need to say, well,
see if you didn't have if we didn't have affirmative action,
if we didn't have equal rights. Hey, we have an
all volunteer army. Now, if a woman is a great
fighter and can and make sure that she has all
(01:22:12):
of the levels that anybody should have on the field.
And this is coming from somebody who was in the
Fire Service and worked alongside women who were just as
capable as any man that I took as a partner
going in there, then fine, outstanding. But it has to
be based on merit, not your gender, not your race,
not your religion. It has to be merit based. And
(01:22:35):
I think that's where you know, if you're reading Donald
Trump's stuff, right, that's where we want to go. It's
the disingenuous players out there who are trying to make
into something that it's not. And they're the ones that
keep trying to advance the Balkanization of the United States
and the demographics based on the stuff that they can
put together to cobble together fifty one percent.
Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
You know, Frank, as I said that, I've met many
it's uske gear and I met a lot of WASP.
They were all find great people. They really were. They're
really find great people. And I agree with you. I
especially agree with you. If you want to if you
want to stop talking about race, you stop talking about race.
(01:23:19):
If you want to end the divide between the races,
you know what you do, Frank, You treat everyone the
way you want to be treated. That ends it all.
That ends it all right there, and then and take.
Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
All the and take all the boxes off the forms
who cares if you're applying for a job in my corporation,
Why do I care? If you have the merit to
be there and the ability to be there, and you're
the best candidate for the job, That's the way it
should be. Orchestras do it all the time. Everybody auditions
behind a screen, no one gets to see who's playing,
(01:23:56):
because they want the best person for that position. Why
does it stop there?
Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
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Bless anytime and always.
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And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Command This
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is with him. It's great to meet him, but please
make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Well, it's my pleasure to introduce Matthew Ganione, who is
the Chief executive officer of the Main Policy Institute of
free market policy think tank based in Portland, Maine. Matt
has also been a columnist for The Banger Daily News
and hosts The WGAN Morning News, the highest rated news
(01:27:31):
talk radio program in southern Maine. Prior to joining Maine
Policy Institute, Met spent roughly a decade in Washington, d C.
Working for the Republican Governors Association, the National Republican Senatorial Committee,
and on Capitol Hill. He has been involved in more
than one hundred high profile political races in forty nine states,
(01:27:53):
in one industry recognition being named by Campaign and Election
Magazine as one of the top campaign strategies just in
the country in twenty thirteen. Matt, Welcome to the Conservative
Commando's radio show.
Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
It's my pleasure to be here. Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Well, we invited you because you've written a great article
that really hits home for us. California's suspension of environmental
regulations should be permanent. I couldn't say as stronger thank
you for writing this and aimen to that. Let's go
through some of those things and talk about what has
(01:28:35):
happened in California. It's basically what you're talking about in
this article has been the demise of that once great
state of California, and really it's, say, a cautionary tale
for the rest of the United States.
Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
I would say, yeah, I think it is, and I
think it actually makes a lot of sense to sort
of start at the beginning. We're obviously talking about this
because the wildfires and what's been taking place in southern California.
That's really why I wrote the article, because it was
talking about sort of how do you recover from that
and what might be standing in the way. But if
you back up, California has had problems for a long time.
(01:29:14):
This isn't brand new, This isn't something that's all that surprising.
People who actually live in the state would tell you
that they have a tremendous housing shortage, which has caused
prices to skyrocket. It's impossible to find affordable housing basically
anywhere in the state these days. I've seen a number
of studies that have tried to estimate exactly how many
houses short they are, and it's anywhere from two point
(01:29:35):
six million to three point two million or somewhere in between.
So they just don't build things. They just don't produce
what needs to be produced, and anybody who's familiar with
markets and capitalism knows if there's demand for something, people
will try to fill it, and they will fill it
by building more widgets or creating more houses, or whatever
it is that you're trying to talk about in a market.
(01:29:56):
And if they're not, there's something wrong. There's something that's
interfering with that. In California, the answer to the question
of what's interfering with that is, predictably, the government. Gavin
Newsom just issued an executive order in response to these wildfires,
basically trying to find a way to help people rebuild quickly.
And what he did in this executive order is he
(01:30:16):
suspended the California Environmental Quality Act. For the people who
are rebuilding. This is a pretty infamous program, some regulations
in California that have been around since the nineteen seventies
and for decades they've been strangling the state and anybody's
attempt to put an addition on their garage, let alone
try to have ten thousand houses built. And by suspending
(01:30:37):
these I think that Newsom is acknowledging that there's something
standing in the way. It's going to make projects take
a lot longer than they should be. Much more expensive
than they should and basically make the whole rebuilding process fail.
So in doing this, I think he inadvertently kind of
acknowledges that there's a really huge problem in California that
needs to be solved. The problem, of course, is that
(01:30:57):
he gets halfway there and doesn't actually understand the true lesson,
which is that they shouldn't be there in the first place,
and they should be permanently repealed, and that would go
a long way towards solving a lot of California's housing problems.
Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Well, I think that is a deficit that the Democrats
have at large. They get about halfway there, they speak
half of what really needs to happen, and that encourages us, Matt.
We get encouraged and we think, oh, well, these guys
aren't so bad as we thought they were, but they
(01:31:30):
really are. Because it is that kind of halfway stuff
that's gotten us in the trouble that we're in.
Speaker 6 (01:31:37):
Yeah, and I think that, you know, if you're trying
to be charitable, a lot of this stuff comes from,
I guess, a desire to help or do the right
thing or whatnot right. The whole law in general began
with Ronald Reagan. Most people don't know this. He's the
one that signed the California Environmental Quality Act in nineteen
seventy And there was actually a Republican legislature in California
at the time, and when it began, it was and
(01:32:00):
really that much of a problem. They were trying to
find ways of making sure that when you build stuff
that you didn't do something insane, like, you know, dumb
mercury in the water or something. But what happened is
over the years, a lot of do gooder politicians in California,
and in California it became one party that really did this,
used that law and just built more requirements on top
(01:32:21):
of more requirements on top of more requirements. And now
when you try to engage in a building project in California,
it can take you months years, and your price can
go up by twenty five, fifty, seventy five percent, and
it just takes the bottom out of any developer that's
trying to actually produce anything, making it not worth it.
And so when it's not worth it, nothing is built,
(01:32:41):
and the price goes up.
Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
And you asked the question, which is an interesting question,
and I want you I know we've kind of talked
about it in general, but I want you to really
talk about this. The question is, if these regulations are
an unnecessary hindrance for those recovering from the wildfires, why
are they necessary at all?
Speaker 6 (01:33:06):
I think it's a pretty important question. I think it's
a pretty common sense question, you know. I guess really
what I would get to is the core of the
issue here. They're either important or they're not. And if
they're important, when someone is trying to, you know, install
some stairs in an apartment complex of theirs, and they
(01:33:27):
have to wait a year and a half for the
approvals and the permits to come through and the environmental
studies to be done and the reports to be produced
before they can do that kind of thing, why is
it not important when we're going to be doing that
times ten thousand, when we're going to be having all
of these homes, all of these apartment complexes, all of
these businesses rebuilt. Because if it is important here, it
(01:33:48):
should be important there. And I think the real answer
is that it's actually not important. And it's the right
thing to tell these people when they're rebuilding that they
don't have to put up with that they don't have
to they don't have to worry about this particular set
of regulations ruining their you know, chances of maybe rebuilding
their home that they lost. And imagine being one of
these people, right and having to wait like two years
(01:34:09):
before you can actually move back into the house that
was burned down in a California wildfire that was largely
the responsibility of politicians who didn't do what they were
supposed to do to make sure this kind of thing
didn't happen in the first place. It would turn you insane.
I can't imagine being that kind of person, and that's
ultimately why Newsom did this. The thing that makes me
really mad about it, Sharon, is that what he's trying
(01:34:31):
to do here is he's trying to kind of wrap
himself in the problem solver cloak and make himself look
like someone who's you know, helping people to rebuild. He
wants to become the hero. And now these environmental regulations
are easily dispensed with when it makes Gavim Newsom into
a hero. But in any other context, he's happy to
champion them, and he says that they're great and we
(01:34:53):
should continue to use them, maybe just reform them and
tweak them a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Well, and that banks the political question. Are they really
truly interested in affordable housing. I know we're having this
same discussion here in Nevada. We need affordable housing, and
they're building apartments like crazy, but nobody can afford twenty
three hundred a month. That's not affordable housing. And so
(01:35:20):
then you have to say, well, they really aren't building
affordable housing. They're just building out. This is this is
about making more money. And that's why they don't really
want to repeal these permanently because it would it's kind
of cut into the market, you know, you know how
politics work. So so take me take me back from
(01:35:43):
this wall here where I'm on the ledge, and I'm
saying this is all a political problem and it's not
going to it's not going to be solved at all.
Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
I'd love to walk you back from the ledge, but
I live in the Greater Portland region of where we're
doing the exact same thing. I mean, it's it's interesting
that most of the country actually has the same problem.
It's not just a California thing. They may be one
of the worst offenders, but basically everywhere in the country
has some sort of a housing crisis right now, and
it's always the same things that created at the end
(01:36:16):
of the day. It's funny that you described the issue
the way that you did share in because honestly, the
developers are going to find a way to make money
no matter what happens, whether you have these regulations, you
don't have these regulations. They're gonna build what they can
to make a profit. I think that this is so
insidious because what it's ultimately done is it has disincentivized
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anybody from being from making a project that would actually
be reasonably affordable because the costs have been piled up
on them so much that having like a you know,
a big complex that actually might be reasonably affordable doesn't
make any sense anymore. Here in Portland, Maine, we have
things like inclusionary zoning, we have rent control, we have
a Green New Deal, you know sort of proposal in
(01:37:00):
the city that that just inflates costs to such a
degree that why would I make a low income type,
you know, large scale housing project when I could do
condos or I could create a you know, a larger
complex for wealthier individuals and make my margin there. So
by trying to help and making it so unaffordable to
(01:37:20):
do this. All they've done is they've incentivized exactly the
wrong kind of housing that they don't want to incentivize.
And we're all complaining about that. That's not that's not
a real part is an issue.
Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Well, and here's here's the appshot of the whole thing.
Our homeless population has increased. And the reason is because
it's cheaper to couch surfe, cheaper to have a cardboard box.
It's less responsibility, less having to worry about bills, less
less having to consider how do I make ends meet?
(01:37:52):
If I just go on the homeless market, get a
shower down there at you know, join the gym and
get a show once in a while, sleep in my car,
whatever it is there, they have priced themselves clear into it.
Another problem is what we're seeing.
Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
I think that they've so ruined the economics of this
that people make rational decisions. And if your rational decision
is to pursue a path that you know, sort of
makes you more able to afford your life over here,
and it's you know, less than less than advantageous. You know,
maybe you're a homeless person, maybe you're in Section eight housing,
whatever it is you're going to take it. It's you know,
(01:38:34):
people are rational economic actors. They're going to do what's
in their own financial best interest, which is one of
the reasons why the United States and states like California,
their welfare systems are so backwards and upside down. There.
They're incentivizing all the wrong kind of behavior and they're
basically creating the very thing that they purport to solve.
Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
The affordable housing one drives me nuts because the government
solution to that is always government centric, taxpayer funded low
income housing project and they build these things, they take forever.
They're terrible, nobody wants to live in them, and there's
nowhere near enough, and you know, the market is demanding
something that they can't possibly satisfy and provide, and so
(01:39:14):
people end up doing other things, whether that's being homeless
or or having other options. Moving further out. I mean,
it increases urban sprawl. You want to look at the
problems of California, one of the big ones is that
everything is spread out like that, and that's because people
keep going further and further away because it's the last
affordable thing. You know, and you commute in forty five
minutes or an hour. I mean, I when I lived
(01:39:35):
in Washington, I consider doing that. I was not really
making a heck of a lot of money at the time,
and in order to work in the city, the only
place I could really think about living that made any
sense whatsoever, was like almost an hour away, and it
was an insane commute to come in. You know, that's
the decision we're making people do right now because of
our policies.
Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Absolutely correct. It's just an amazing thing to me that
you and I can sit here and talk about this
and in ten minutes we can solve the problem. And
we elect people like Gavin Newsom. I should not say
that I did not elect him. I did not vote
for him. But you know, people like Gavin Newsom are
(01:40:18):
elected and they pat us on the head and say
we'll solve this. But the solution they come up with
takes months, if not years, and it's never the correct one.
It's mind boggling to me. And because of that, we're
going to go to a commercial break and I'll let
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Welcome Back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders Radio Show
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of environmental regulations should be permanent. Hey, Matt, thank you
for holding through that break. We really do appreciate your time. Sir.
Speaker 6 (01:43:46):
Oh, always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
Hey Matt, Before we go any father, why don't you
tell us a little bit about the Main Policy Center.
Speaker 6 (01:43:54):
Yeah. I Main Policy Institute is one of I don't
know more than fifty thing tanks across the country that
work on individual state policy issues for places like may
in California, Texas, Colorado, wherever. We've been around for about
twenty two years, and we work primarily in Augusta on
things affecting main policy from the state side of things.
(01:44:15):
We do touch on some federal policy, but a lot
of what we do actually is very similar to what
we're talking about today, talking about housing regulations, talking about taxes,
talking about sort of the unintended consequences of a lot
of very silly government decisions. That's got all my day
jobs all about.
Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
All right, you know any in your article you talk
about crises, and you're right, and I quote you, sir,
like most of the rest of the country, California has
largely self created housing crisis. Well, I think creating crisis
is a California think. They've created a power crisis, an
(01:44:53):
auto crisis, a tax crisis, so now they have the
housing crisis. And I'll be honest with you, I don't
know how optimistic you are about California not only suspending
their regulations but permanently suspending regulations and do the things
(01:45:13):
that it needs to do to rebuild California. And I'll
tell you where I'm coming from that. On May thirteenth,
nineteen eighty five, May thirteenth, nineteen eighty five, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
a liberal run city. They haven't had a Republican mayor
in my lifetime, and that's pretty darn long lifetime now.
(01:45:37):
But there was a group called move group called Move
and they were radical back to the nature type group.
They had two row homes that they barricaded off there
was some reports that the children were being abused, rats, roaches,
place was infested with them. So the city that license
(01:46:01):
and inspection out to do an investigation of these accusations
child abuse. They wouldn't license an inspection in so then
the police showed up and what ensued was a five
hour running gun battle. Over five thousand rounds of ammunition
was fired, was exchanged. The mayor at that time, Wilson Good,
(01:46:27):
ended this situation by dropping a bomb on the top
of the house. The bomb exploded, put the house on fire,
put the neighboring houses on fire. One hundred and fifty
one houses burnt down before Wilson Good let the fire
company go into put the fire out. Now why I'm
(01:46:50):
pessimistic about lessons learned in California? Do you know who
are the people of Philadelphia reelected as the mayor next
to the license Wilson Good. Wilson Good now Matt Five
years ago there was the Paradise Fire in California. Ten
(01:47:10):
thousand houses burnt down in that fire. You know how
many have been rebuilt? Five years later, about twenty five hundred,
about twenty five hundred out of the right thousand, and
speaking to some of the people because we broadcast up
in that area, we got towers up in that area,
(01:47:32):
and speaking to some of the people, they say, part
of it's the it's the regulations. It's the regulations. So, Matt,
what makes you think that this, these count the southern
California fires are finally going to get these people in California,
like Gabin Newssom, to finally come to their senses and say,
(01:47:54):
we got to do things differently. I mean, we had
the Paradise fires, now we've got the the fires in
southern California. And these fires, aren't you unique? It seems
like every year California is on fire.
Speaker 6 (01:48:10):
They are. To be very clear, I'm not optimistic at all.
I hate to be the rain cloud on our conversation,
but I'm really not. But with a caveat, I'll add
a little caveat to my pessimism about this. I think
the main reason I'm not very optimistic is because I
have two eyes and I can see that California is
at this point in dystopia and they continue to send
(01:48:30):
back exactly the wrong kind of people doing the exact
wrong kind of things. The little twinge, the little tiny
bit of optimism I have is not about like in
the next year or two. It's in the longer term
for California. In the longer term for California. Someday they
will emerge from this. They will. I really do believe
that someday they will emerge from this when it really
(01:48:51):
does get so bad that they have no option. I mean,
look at Argentina right now and what's going on down
there with Tovi here, Malay and everything that's happening in
that country. It got so bad that they elected basically
a guy who wants to entire entirely destroy the state,
which is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (01:49:08):
You know, you can go to America, though, and you
can look at examples here it's not quite that dramatic.
But if you go to the you know, New York
City in the nineteen eighties in early nineteen nineties, you
see a crumbling social fabric. I mean, you couldn't take
the subway without feeling like you were going to get
mugged or or perhaps you know, physically assaulted. You have
graffiti everywhere, you have prostitution everywhere. You have a city
(01:49:32):
that just is falling apart, and at some level, you know,
people got so fed up with it that they turned
to Mayor Rudy Giuliani and said, please, for the love
of all that is only clean this up for us,
please do this. And there was a smashing success in
doing so, which really kind of carried that city through
for multiple decades. Now they've obviously sipped slipped back since.
And this is kind of the pattern we see, right
(01:49:53):
is you know, you fix things, things get better, and
then you have the same problems that created it in
the first place re emerging because the do goods come
back again and say, well, we can make this really
good society just a little bit better if you just
listen to us and we institute these regulations, we have
these new laws, et cetera. And it doesn't work, but
that doesn't mean it can't change. And I do think
it can, but it really is going to require the
(01:50:13):
people in California being fed up to such a degree
that they demand change.
Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Well, Matt, it seems like the southern California fires are
probably they're going to be one of them, if not
the most expensive disaster in our country's history, one of them.
And I've got a solution, and I want to put
this out there for our friends out there in California,
because I do have a solution. Off the coast of
(01:50:40):
California is a billion barrels of oil, a couple billions
of cubic feet of natural gas, Matt. They have the
resources to rebuild, is what I'm getting it. But again,
they've got to change their mindset. They've got to change
your think. They got to do what they said they
(01:51:03):
don't want to do. Oh, they want to go to
the American people. They want to go to Sharon, Nevada,
Matt Maine, Rick in New Jersey, and everywhere else. And
they want us to make them whole again when they
have the ability to make themselves whole.
Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
Yeah, no, they do indeed. And if you want to
start listing the things that California has for advantages that
it isn't exploiting, you can talk about the gigantic deposits
of rare earth materials that they have sitting under the
earth that they refuse to allow themselves to go mine
because it would be a devastating environmental problem. You know,
they don't do that kind of thing. And instead, now
we offshore all production of those types of materials which
(01:51:45):
are essential to circuits and everything we do in our
modern age to China and we have them do it,
which you know, I think feeds us something like ninety
five percent of the rare earth materials that we actually use.
Great idea, awesome, And sitting right there in California is
a gold mine, literal gold mine for them, and they
could exploit it and they don't. And that's repeated in
(01:52:06):
you know, so many different ways, issue after issue in
that state.
Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
You know, they when you were talking with Sharon about
this California Environmental Quality Act and you said it was
actually signed by Ronald Reagan. Doesn't approve they rode the
hell is paved with good intentions, It certainly does. I mean,
that's that's the thought that Ronald Reagan would be rolling
into grave with that. And I used to think that
the only mistake that Ronald Reagan made was when he
(01:52:35):
granted amnesty the three million people. But maybe this is
number two.
Speaker 6 (01:52:40):
I think it's a similar logic, right you. It really
presupposes good intentions in the people who would follow up
that act. I mean, you talk about the amnesty that
he that he sort of spearheaded, right, you know, if
the country actually took its border seriously and it reformed
its immigration process and whatnot. You know, granting an amnesty
like that for one time and then fixing the rest
(01:53:01):
of it for all time wouldn't have been that offensive
to anyone. The problem was that everybody that came after
him decided to just pretend like we didn't have a
border and pretend like we actually didn't need to manage
that situation whatsoever. And the same is true here. He
assumed that some very minor, some very marginal environmental protections
was you know, something that was worth doing and to
(01:53:21):
try to protect people and whatnot. I probably, you know,
if I could go back in time, would have told
him not to do it. But the problem was everyone
that came after him and everybody. See, the thing about
government is they always build on what exists. You are
creating a base upon which everyone is going to build upon.
They will never pull them back, they will only add
to them. So that's one of the reasons why I
(01:53:43):
always tell people on the political right, never agree ever
to expand government to you know, have a new department
to grow things, because twenty years, thirty years from now,
that little baby thing that you just created, that seed
will germinate and create a plant, and you know, Department
of Educations like that, right, started as a little thing,
and now it's taken over our entire lives federally. This
(01:54:05):
happens all the time, you.
Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
Know, Matt. Even though I'm in my deep seventies now
and my short term memory is not as good as
it was when I was in my forties, my long
term memories pretty good. I can remember when I was
a young teenager, like thirteen, fourteen years old, hearing news
in California about fires, floods, mud slides, the need for water.
(01:54:31):
And at that time, the population of California was fourteen
million people. Now it's so for forty million people. They've
done nothing to solve these problems. Over fifty years. They've
done nothing to solve these problems. Over fifteen years you
talk about, You talked about New York City. New York
(01:54:53):
City got so bad they have finally elected somebody like
Rudy Giuliani to clean it up. But again, does California
have to get to the bottom of the drain before
they start to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps?
(01:55:16):
Does it have to get that bad? Cannot people learn
from lessons that they've experienced already?
Speaker 6 (01:55:23):
You would hope, so you would hope.
Speaker 5 (01:55:24):
So.
Speaker 6 (01:55:25):
I think there is one key element that we need
to make sure that we also acknowledge too. It's not
just that the opportunity has provided to you because the
state or the city, or you know, the country or
whatever has fallen to such a state. You also have
to have the ability to take advantage of that failure.
And the thing about Juliani was that he made sense
to a lot of people in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Right.
Speaker 6 (01:55:45):
He was a law and order justice kind of guy,
and he was, you know, all about cleaning things up,
and he's well spoken, and he was able to really
take how people felt and turn it into something that
was politically potent that would allow him to win. I
think you definitely saw that with Trump and both of
his election wins, certainly this last one which was far
more successful with him having the popular vote, and one
(01:56:06):
on I think in California it's going to require not
only everyone being fed up, but somebody or a movement
has to be there, be able to actually say to people, look,
you are unhappy, here is why you are unhappy, and
here is a better way forward that'll fix these things.
And in telling, unless someone like that comes around, to
be able to actually articulate to people. I think they're
(01:56:26):
going to be waiting for change, right, Matt.
Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
Gun John, We want to thank you so much to join.
Matt is the chief executive officer of the Main Policy Institute. Hey, Matt,
please leave our audience with way to connect with you
to read the things that you write. Find out more
about the Main Policy Institute.
Speaker 6 (01:56:47):
Main Policy Institute can be found online at mainpolicy dot org.
We also have a substack at Mainpolicy dot substack dot com.
You can find me pretty much anywhere. I'm all over
the place, but I'm certainly on ex Twitter or whatever
it's called these days. You can find me there. And
I have my own substacked pretensive knowledge dot substack dot com,
so you can find me there as well. And I'm
always doing interviews like this, so anytime you see.
Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
My face, Hey Matt, do you miss the Swamp?
Speaker 6 (01:57:12):
Do I miss it? Absolutely not. I loved the city,
but I did not miss the swamp at all when
I left, all right, not in Elisha.
Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
Matt view Kenyon. Again, thank you so much for joining us,
Take care and God.
Speaker 6 (01:57:24):
Bless Thanks so much, guys, and.
Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
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