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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome fellow de plorables.
Welcome all of you Triggs to society. You rocked while
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Hopefully you hear what we call you. That's friends, Ali's
and patriots, and you're always welcome here, and you're always

(00:42):
going to be welcome here. And this is the Conservative
Commander's Radio Show. And I'm Rick Trader, coming to you
from the My Pillow studios and my Store studios of
the a U and TV network and joining me today
as my co host is Sharon Engel. And Sharon, welcome back,
Welcome back to Conservative command Us.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Thank you, Rick. It's always a pleasure to be here
to talk about those things that maybe other people aren't
talking about, or maybe they take they're talking about. But
we have a little difference, lant I, haven't you know.
We we got over the shutdown, the Schumer shut down, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
And by the way, before we're go any further, yes,
I take every opportunity I can to remind people it
was the Democrats that shut down the government. Just do
the mass. Every Republican save for one in the Senate
voted to keep the government open. Every Democrat save for

(01:45):
three voted to shut down the government. And now who's
who's shut down? That was it, as you said, it
was the Schumer shut down. Excuse me for interrupting. I
always liked to get no.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
And that's why I deliberately called it the humor shut down.
I know our senatorial group and congressmen knew they couldn't
keep it up, even though they know we're all in
for the Democrat strategy. They in the end, they all
came flying over to the other side because it was

(02:18):
a loser of a strategy and it kept opening up
these new places where people said, why are we spending
money on that.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Let me just make this one comment I just heard
come from Linda McMahon, who's the Secretary of Education, and
I think there's something good, Sharon, that came out of
the shutdown, because Linda McMahon said that during the government shutdown,
ninety percent of employees of the Department of Education were furloughed.

(02:53):
Not a single school closed, not a single teacher got fired,
not a single teacher didn't get their paycheck. I mean,
nothing happened. Yet ninety percent of the Department of Education
was shut down for at least forty three days. So
if there's anything that could come out of this shutdown,

(03:13):
maybe it just shows people we really don't need this
bloated government that we've got.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Now absolutely correct. That's why I kind of wanted to
talk about post mortem, because it really opened up a
lot of topics that they'd be saying, Oh, we couldn't
do that, we can't do that, we don't need to
do that. And yet when it happened, like you said,
we found out we don't need a Department of Education.

(03:42):
We've been saying that for years, Rick, and actually Trump
that was his mandate to the Secretary of Education. He said,
your job is to get rid of this. And now
she has the perfect reason to get rid of it.
She just aimed the statistic that went along with the

(04:02):
Schumer shutdown. We now know it's not a well what
will happen if we don't have a Department of Education.
We now know exactly what will happen if we don't
have one.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know, another thought, Sharon, just think of all the
money that's been wasted since the department since the Department
of Education was created, all the money that was wasted.
Somebody ought to do a study on that. One shouldn't
be too hard to figure out. Just figure out the
budget for the Department of Education since it was created.

(04:37):
When was that? Was it seventy two? I think during
the There was it during the Jimmy Carter Minish.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think it was Jimmy Carter that.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, that would have been in the later part of
the nineteen seventies. Just take the budget for the Department
of Education and figure it out for the last fifty years,
and there you go, all the money it was wasted.
You know what, Sharon? Another thing I know I'm going on.
I should let you talk.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
No, But.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
When the Department of Education was created the United States,
the class the results was number one across the board.
Now it's like twenty fifth around the world. The results
of our kids. Our kids are coming out of school,
they know nothing, nothing that there was a college. I'm

(05:30):
forgetting what college it was? That well known college. I
wish I real You know, Sharon and I never prepare.
I mean we just we just sit down together. I'm
what to mean by prepare. We don't discuss what we're
going to talk about beforehand. But if I knew we
were going to go this way, I would have found
out what college it was, but what a large percent

(05:53):
of their student population was on basic mathematics because they
didn't know basic math. Thematic sharing is.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, the problem is for the Democrats is that the
light is being shined shown on the education system in
a big way, you know, because of course they wanted
to say, well, these children are going to suffer. That's
always the thing when you don't have the education dollars

(06:26):
coming into the States, the children are going to suffer.
Well they didn't suffer. They didn't suffer with this shutdown
so exposed that they also said, well, the poor people
are going to shut down, they're not going to get
their food stamps. Well, what did we find out when
we got to get a chance to really look at
where the food stamps were going and who was collecting
and where the money was really being spent. We found

(06:49):
out there's a whole lot of waste, fraud and abuse
in that food stamp program. And that light shining on
that program has now no precipitated cuts. They're saying, we
don't need to spend that money, you know. And and
Americans now are starting to really make up to this all.

(07:11):
Seventy eight percent of Americans requires support requiring able body
adults to work. I think that's our our position as well.
If your able body, you should work. You shouldn't be
on welfare on these benefits like food stamps shouldn't be
going to able bodied workers. That's not what they were
what they're there for. And so they're starting to look

(07:34):
into who's participating in that. Sixty three percent of Americans
suppose allowing tax dollars to pay for health care for
illegal immigrants. Absolutely, absolutely, So we shined the light again.

(07:54):
The light was bright on this health care the health
care problems in our country, and they came up wanting.
And so it's we're starting to wake the culture up
to what the Democrats have been doing, which is just

(08:14):
spending us into a hole. You know. Seventy three percent
of Americans believe that we could save hundreds of billions
of dollars by cutting waste and fraud from government programs. Well, yes,
and those showed us where those cuts could be made.
Now the Democrats pooh poohed that, Oh no, doges you

(08:35):
know they're wrong. That's not really what's going on. Well,
it is really what's going on, and the shooting.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Be a politician that didn't run a campaign to get
elected on abolishing waste for an abuse. I mean, they
all talk about a Sharon. They do. By the way,
I just looked this up. A report released last week
by the University of californ for the San Diego which

(09:02):
has about forty five thousand students, is one of America's
highest rank public universities, said that the number of enrolling
first year of students who math whose math skills fall
below middle school level but falls below middle school level

(09:24):
increased by nearly thirtyfold from twenty twenty to twenty twenty
five to roughly one out of every eight students are
enrolled in the basic math class at the University of
California in San Diego. That's disgusting, Sharon. What are we

(09:46):
spending all this money on education for? Forget the Department
of Education. All the money that's being spent on education
incredible and these are the results we get.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, that's why we are seeing so many people opting
out of the government school system because they know that
they're not getting an education there. It's proven. It's not
just California universities they're having to do its remedial education
for math and language. It's every university. They all offer it.

(10:24):
When I was going to college, we didn't have remedial education.
We well take that back. We had what you call
bonehead classes, and if you couldn't pass it, you might
be able to get into a bonehead class. And you know,
it was it was a it was not a norm,

(10:44):
and you couldn't have too many of those classes, or
they just tell you you're not college material, we're not
accepting you. You can't come to this school, you know.
And the University of Nevada was one of those schools
that accepted. Everybody from California couldn't get into a California
school because they couldn't pass the math and the language

(11:06):
portions of the acts. And we took them because we
knew they were going to flunk out. And our tuition
was so high that we were making money. And that
was how it was. When I went to the University
of Nevada, I had a chemistry teacher. He had a
huge class. I think there were three hundred in our class,
and he said, look to the left, look to the right.

(11:29):
Only one of you will will be back next semester.
The three people sitting there, only we'll be back. He said,
it's my job. It's my job to get rid of
two of you.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And he was just very, very plain spoken about what
was going to go on with the freshman class. So
we all knew it was our it was ours to lose.
And since then, we've made it so easy for for
kids to stay in school and spend that money. So
you know, it's all about the money.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's all about the money and getting a degree in
f you in other than than getting an MBA, it's
getting a degree. And if you had Charon, let's get
break in here. We could come back to this if
you'd like you in this next section. But so you
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos for
Sharon Angle and I'm Rick Trader, coming to you from
the Mypila sudi as the Mystora studios of the au
n TV network. So Sharon, what else do you follow me?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well, Christy Noum, I guess she declared victory in Florida
as Operation dirt Bag takes down two hundred and thirty
plus criminal illegal aliens. Most of these criminals were targeting children,
and that's why they call it Operation dirt Bag, because
these are the worst of the worst, anyone who commits

(14:40):
a crime against a child. But I like that number,
two hundred and thirty plus criminal illegal aliens. They are
taking them into custody and their convict them. I haven't

(15:03):
got to the point of their all going someplace else
than US prisons. I hope that that's the case, because
they don't belong here certainly, and the countries that they
come from need to take care of their criminals rather
than expecting us to do.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
How about it?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
How about this idea.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
How about this idea, Sharon, Let's send their native country
is are built? No, I was listening. I was listening
to something yesterday on the AU and TV network. And
by the way, if you're not watching and listening to
the AU and TV network, you're missing a lot of
the news that the mainstream media wants talk about. Fox

(15:46):
want to talk about uh news, Maximon talk about it.
But you'll hear about it here. This woman goes to
the hospital and tries to get pills, and what she
was saying was it was nitro glycer and tatless she

(16:07):
was trying to get and she was saying that her
mother was here from Mexico and she ran out of pills.
She forgot her pills, so she went to the hospital
to get nitro glisser and pills. Well, the hospital had
her going get her mother and bring her in. Well,
it turned out that this was really really a sick lady.

(16:32):
She had bypassed surgery and you know that's very, very
very expensive. However, when they sent the bill to the
address she had no insurance. By the way, when the
hospital sent the bill to the address of the doorter,
it coming back as no such person at this address.

(16:57):
Why instead of the American taxpayer absorbing that cost, why
don't they build Mexico. That is the citizen of Mexico,
That woman was a citizen of Mexico. Why don't you
bill the country of Mexico for this woman's care. Why

(17:22):
should the American taxpayer be straddled with that bill?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, that's right, that's right, And why should we be settled,
as you say, with the bill for these ones that
are going to be.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And I would think it'd be very easy, Sharon, to
collect because in most cases, with foreign aid and everything,
the United States probably still sending money to these countries
around the world who are sending their people up here.

(18:00):
Send them the bill for that for their medical bill,
medical care, send them a bill for imprison imprisoning them,
send them a bill for all the destruction that their
citizens are doing in this country like Mexico. It would
be easy. I think it would be easy for Donald

(18:22):
Trump to put the screws on Mexico for Mexico to
pay for that woman's operation. Why should the American tax
fair be held responsible? And forget this idea of free
medical care. There is no free Sharon. Somebody has to
pay for it and what happens. What happens Sharon happened

(18:47):
in the little town in New Jersey called Hamilton. The
hospital was so underwater with bills they couldn't collect on.
It closed down. Didn't sell out or anything to another hospital.
It shut down. Now that town of Hamilton has no hospital.
They have to go a dozen miles one way or

(19:08):
another to get to a hospital. It's a little community
to hospital, right, but now it no longer exists. Why
And I'll give you an example when I've told this
story here, and if I'm repeating myself, so be it.
But my mother was a heart patient and she was

(19:29):
having an episode, and I took her to the emergency
care at this particular hospital. And while I'm sitting in
the waiting room as my mother is being treated, a
young girl about sixteen comes in with her mother. Okay,
they had no insurance, they had no money, the mother
did not speak English, and the girl was in there.

(19:54):
The girl was actually the patient.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
She went to the hospital for, Sharon lauryngitis. Okay, laurenitis. Now,
hospitals can't turn anybody away, right, so they treated that
girl for laurence laryngitis in a hospital or emergency room.

(20:19):
Now who paid for that? Well, the town Hamilton did,
they lost their hospital, American taxpayer did. I mean, I'm
sure that doctor didn't work free, those nurses didn't work
for free. Somebody paid the electric at that hospital. I mean,
but the American taxpayer paid for that girl to be

(20:42):
treated for laurenitis at an emergency clinic, at an emergency room. Yes,
I saw this charme with my own eyes, so don't
tell me it's not true. It didn't happen. I saw
it with my own eyes. And this was back I
don't know, in the nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties, and that,

(21:07):
you know, before we had this massive invasion into this
country of people that are coming here with no job,
no money, no education, no skill, come here probably with
the clothes in their backs.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Right right. Well, it's the same way with prison or incarceration.
We put the total bill for that. We put foot
the bill for their room and board, which is you know,
where they sleep and what they eat, but also for
their medical.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Fifty thousand dollars a year of sharing forty fifty thousand
dollars a year for inmate in federaration.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
And so these illegals that are going into our penitentiary
are costing us once again that way. And you know,
even though they aren't saying that they are deporting them,
they should be that we don't have room in our
prisons for these folks. And as you say, they're country

(22:14):
of origin should be paying that and any time that
they're incarcerated in our prisons, we should send that bill
along with them when we send them back.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Here's another way to collect the sharon. Anybody who comes
to this country for any reason, say there they want
to go to Disneyland, right, hit them with attacks. Hit
them with one hundred dollars. Let's say name a country.

(22:46):
Name a country, all right, somebody from Mexico or no,
that's let's say somebody.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
That's about Thailand.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Let's gold one Thailand. Somebody from Thailand is coming to
this country to go to Disneyland. All right, Let's hit
them with one hundred dollars surcharge to pay for all
the Taiwanese Thailand Taiwan Taiwan Thailand pilot all right.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
All the ties, the die, the ties, all the all
the hospital stays, all the doctor visits, all.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
The incarcerations people from Thailand. Hit them with a nice
search arg one hundred dollars, two hundred dollars whatever. That's
one way to do it. That's one way to do it.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Well, here's another thought. I was getting a rental car
and the person next to me was getting a rental
car also, and the lady said, the rental car agent
said to her, that'll be seven hundred for cleaning. And
the lady said what, and she said, yeah, you'll have

(24:03):
to put in a seven hundred and fifty dollars cleaning
deposit on this car. And she said, well, that's out rageous.
And she said, well, you'll get it back when you
bring the car back. And she says, but why are
you charging me that in the first place. She says,
because everybody that's runting cars right now is going to

(24:24):
Burning Man. They come back trashed, and so we just
it costs US seven hundred and fifty dollars to clean
the car up. So if you don't go to burning Man,
you'll get your deposit back. If you do, you won't.
And the lady said, I'm not going to Burning Man.
And the rental agent said that's what they all say,

(24:46):
of course would say, And she said, so I'm putting
the seven hundred and fifty dollars on your card. And
that's kind of what it would be like because we
know that many people come to disney Land but they
overstay their visitors. Are they overstay their education visa or whatever?
So if they had a deposit here, because that's what

(25:08):
they all say, they're going home, but positive that we
just took to pay for their medical to pay for
their like I'm there, they're here. If you do go home,
we'll refriend.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, you know, when you go into a hotel, you've
got to give a credit card, right and what what
that is? That is to cover any damage that you
do to the room. Basically, that's right. If you don't
do any damage, well they don't church it. Maybe we
should do that with everybody centering the country shared. Let's

(25:47):
put two thousand dollars on their card and this is
to cover Let's say that visitor goes to Disneyland, that
visitor from Thailand goes, they land falls in, cuts their
head open. So got to take that person to a hospital,

(26:09):
got to take them to a doctor for treatment. Right, Well,
chances are thailands medical care, you know, they don't They're
not going to have Blue Cross blue shield or things
like that. Who's going to pay for that? Well, guess
what the credit card, the credit card that that two

(26:34):
thousand dollars that you reserved on the credit card that
goes to pay. Or let's say they commit a crime,
Well that two thousand dollars is to cover fines on that.
Let's say they get speeding tickets. Or you know when
you rent a car, Sharon, if you rent a car
and you get a parking ticket, guess what the police

(26:58):
collects somebody from the rent a card company, the rent
a car company puts it on your credit card. That
happens to me. Once happened to in the in the
Halifax Nova, Scotia. We got a parking ticket. This is
many many, many years ago. Got a parking ticket. Guess
what it got charged to my credit card?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, you know, out of country credit cards wouldn't work.
I don't think just because they don't have to Canada.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
That was Canada. That was Canada. That's another country.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I think. I think if you got cash, no, you
need be better off. And we just got good old
US dollars.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
You know you have to one way or another. I'll
tell you another thing we got to do. And let's
take a break. And this is the Conservative Commander with
Sharon Angle Alumrick Trader. Hey, if you've got an idea,
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Speaker 1 (30:14):
And Welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
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Speaker 2 (30:27):
What else she hast Sharon, Well, I guess I'm into
embarrassing the Democrats today.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
That's not that hard to do. The only, the only
problem with embarrassing the Democrats is no matter how stupid
they are, no matter how ridiculous something they do, they're
proud of it. Like lighting men and women's bathrooms, They're
proud of that. Sharon. Okay, boys that think they're girls

(30:58):
and girls that think they're boys and changing their sex,
and they're proud of that. Sharon. So what do you
got that's going to embarrass the Democrats?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well, we we had a problem before Trump was elected
with Jeffrey Epstein, and the Democrats didn't want anything revealed
about jess Jeffrey Epstein. They were closed mouthed about that
nothing to see here. They redacted all of the files

(31:28):
Trump get selected. They say, open the files. Right, everybody's
crying open the files because Donald Trump must be there
in the bottom of all this. It must be all him.
That's in those files. That's why you won't open up. Well,
he kind of sucked them in on that because they

(31:50):
were all clamoring for this, open it up, open it up,
open it up. And guess what, they opened it up.
But it wasn't Donald Trump that they exposed. It's their guys,
and we know the pervert in chief is Bill Quinton.

(32:11):
It just goes on with this stuff. You know, they
really need to be careful what they ask for here,
because what they're asking for it's just like the Schumer shutdown.
They ask for the shutdown. They're gonna you know, they're
gonna hurt Donald Trump with this shutdown. Well what they

(32:31):
did was they hurt their own agenda with this shutdown.
They need to, you know, quit digging a hole right
when you're finding when you find yourself in the hole,
quin digging. And yet they don't seem to get it.
They don't seem to get it that the things that
they have been trying to pin on Republicans and especially

(32:55):
Donald Trump are backfiring in a big way. And yet
they they keep pursuing this stuff. It's just amazing to
watch them dig their own hole.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
As I say, Sharon, what this reminds me of Russia
Gate all over again. Remember it was Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia,
all right. Everything that Donald Trump was doing was to
distract him from his Russia Gate, from his Russian problems.
The same thing with this Epstein thing.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Oh, the shutdown was all about distracting people from the
from the Epstein. Hello, we've seen this, don't people understand?
This is what the Democrats do. They did it with
Russia Gate, they did it with their doing it with Epstein.
They are going to do anything they can to try

(33:49):
to smear Donald Trump. Lie. It's nothing for a Democrat
to lie. I mean, Schumer did it millions of times.
Adam Cheff, he did it all the time. I mean
your guy Harry Reid lied all the time. But it
doesn't matter to a Democrat. Lying doesn't matter to them

(34:12):
as long as it helps him win elections. So the
last Trump administration is Russia RuSHA rush, your RuSHA Russia.
This time it's Epstein and epsseyn Nepstein, Epstein, Epstein. It
doesn't matter that it was their guy. Wasn't our guy?
Was their guy? Sharon? You know when you're going to

(34:36):
hear the end of this, probably January twenty first of
twenty twenty nine. That's when you're going to hear the
end of the Epstein stuff, because even if everything is
released and there's nothing on it about Donald Trump, they're

(34:57):
going to insist there were and that it was hidden,
it was thrown out, it was covered over, it was redacted,
it was bleach bitted. You know. I'm telling you, Sharon,
let them release the Epstein files and you'll see it

(35:17):
won't be the end of it. They will continue continue,
continue this Epstein, Epstein Epstein until January twenty first, twenty
twenty nine, or no, yeah, twenty twenty nine, the day
Donald Trump leaves office, and then they'll pick if it's
a Republican, they'll find something on the next guy, or

(35:40):
they'll try, or they'll they'll lie and create something. Remember
the whole Russia thing that was created, that was created
by Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yep, you're exactly right, and it will continue on. The
sad thing is is that people have such such a
small attention span, such as a short memory for these things.
When you talk about Russigate, THEIRS I doesn't remember that

(36:20):
Russigate was their issue. They're the ones that performed that,
not that then going and used it, then used it
and used it. They don't remember that Epstein came out
with their guys on the list, not our guys. They

(36:41):
don't do enough homework to really look into these accusations
to remember it to the next election, and all they
can do is do their three sentences about how bad
Donald Trump is. That's always when you get into a
debate with a liberal, you get into their sound bites,

(37:05):
and at the end of those three sound bites, they're
done talking. And then they they tell you that they
can't be their friend anymore. You know, they cancel you whatever.
It's just an amazing problem that we have in politics.
I wonder if they're going to remember this man, Danny's
promises when he can't fulfill the promises or when.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
He does that matter. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
And let me tell you, I'll make this prediction, okay,
And Danny can't come through with the free buses or
the community grocery stores, or the rank control or the
family daycare. He doesn't do anything right, I guarantee he

(37:53):
gets re elected. I guarantee you sharing you will get
re elected. And I've told this story here on Conservative
Commandos before I learned this lesson May thirteenth, nineteen eighty five.
I learned this lesson, and let me tell you what
happened on May thirteenth, nineteen eighty five and my birthplace

(38:16):
specific date, pretty specific date. In my birthplace at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
there was a group, a radical group called Move all Right,
and they controlled two row homes in Philadelphia, and Ellen

(38:37):
I was called into an investigate a claimed that children
there were being abused. So Ellen and I went to
the or no not Elani Duyphus went to the homes,
couldn't get access, so from what they could see from

(38:58):
the outside, they could see a lot code violations, trash,
garbage strewn all over place. So then they called ELLENI,
and ell and I came and they weren't allowed entry,
so they called the police. A gun battle broke out,
a litter five thousand rounds of ammunition were exchanged between

(39:23):
this group Move and the Philadelphia police. It was a
war zone share and five thousand rounds of ammunition. So
to break this up the merit at that time, Wilson
Good devised a plan to drop a bomb made a
ce four drop a bomb onto the roof of this house. Okay,

(39:49):
a fire erupted. Not only did it kill twenty people
in this house, including a dozen children, it burnt down
the neighborhood. And I literally mean burnt down that neighborhood.
The fire were not allowed to go in to put
the fire out. Wilson Good refused a lot the fire

(40:11):
department in to put the fire out. When I say literally,
an entire neighborhood burned down, I mean it. One hundred
and fifty one row homes burnt down, Sharon, one hundred
and fifty one row homes burned down. Now would you
think the city of Philadelphia would re elect a mayor

(40:36):
who dropped a bomb on a building, killing a couple
of dozen people, including like a dozen children, Sharon, you
think they reelect this man? Well, they did, they did,
they did. They re elected Wilson Good. By the way,
the city had rebuild those homes, and there were row homes, Sharon.

(40:58):
This was in nineteen eighty five, Sharon. Each row home
that the city rebuilt over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
And by the way, today that area is a slum
because the construction was so Shody after a few years,

(41:18):
the homes that were worthless. Yeah to Philadelphia. The people
of Philadelphia have elected Democrat after Democrat after Democrat after
Democrat for the last seventy five years, in including Wilson
good Burn. With that, Sharmon, we got to go to

(41:41):
a break and you are listening to and watching the
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Speaker 1 (43:30):
This is the Conservative Commander's Radio Show with Sharon Angle,
and you're Shirley Rick Trader coming to you from the
My Pillar Studios and My Store studios of the au
n TV network. Without Sharon, what else is By the
way we ended, I wanted to just put a tag
on something, you know. The last segment, I told that

(43:50):
story about Wilson Good Hallie burnt down the city city
block to city blocks. You got reelected. Mon Daney will
get re elected. If he make keeps no promises at all,
he will get real likes. I just wanted to say
that before we move on.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Well, we've got this issue going on in the Republican
Party and I think that we probably need to talk
about it a little bit. There is this discussion going
on about Israel. Are the Jews in Israel true Jews?

(44:36):
And what that means is that there was a promise
made to Abraham way back in the Old Testament that said,
God promises this, those who bless Israel, my nation, my people.
Those who bless Israel will be blessed. Those who curse
Israel will be cursed. And so it has been a

(44:58):
long time stand for Christians to bless Israel. That's you
want to be on the right side with God. You
don't want to be fighting against him. And yet Tucker Carlson,
Canda Soans, and Steve Bennon have now said that these

(45:19):
are not the Jews that God was talking about. Those
Jews are no longer in existence. The Christian Church has
taken the place of those Jews. And since they're no
longer in existence. What's going on in Israel is Zionism,
and they're totally against the Zionists. And so now we

(45:43):
have this conflict within that segment of the megablock of
the Make America Great block of the Trump supporters, and
it has really closed such controversy that it is flowing
over into things like a TP action, which is Charlie

(46:12):
Kirk's group, and they have even now asked some of
their collegiate members not to come back because they've taken
this stand which is an aseemitic and they say, you know,
Charlie was not anna Semitic. He was a supporter of Israel,

(46:36):
and so we can't have we can't have this going
on in our groups. It's just been a trigger point
and place where actually we're giving the left so much
ammunition to go forward with their and semitic stuff. It

(47:02):
it is not a controversy that we should be getting
into it all, and yet here we are, and it's
based on folks that we have trusted, trusted with our news,
trusted with their opinions, trusted in the past, and now
they're coming in and bringing these people that say such

(47:27):
terrible things. This flentis for example, goes on X and
says Trump's second term is objectively a colossal disappointment and
a strophic failure in whose book, mister fent in whose book?
Because all we can see is that Donald Trump has
been keeping his promises. He's not a colossive catastrophic failure. Uh,

(47:54):
why are we even giving fluent as a place to
talk about these things? Who is this guy that we
should say Nick Flentis has any right to be talking
about government or politics or anything. It's only because Tucker
Carlson gave him a platform to do that. And you know,

(48:18):
we've flung been of the mind that we don't bring
on our adversaries. We are not. We are not that
those people on conservative commandos. If you want to get
the other sides view, go to the other sides media.
They got plenty of it. But we hear, we here

(48:38):
have been saying all along, you don't invite the enemy
into your camp just just about their stuff and talk
about things that we don't agree with. Why would we
do that? Why would they get we give them our
platform to do that? And so that Tucker Carlson has
done this has just made it such a division point

(49:03):
within Republicans. Tucker's good on our conservative values for the
most part. Stick to that. Stick to that, Tucker, don't
be bringing people in like Nick Flints, who Ted Kruz
calls the little Nazi. And Tucker even criticized Ted Cruz

(49:26):
for his stand with Israel because he said, my stand
is one a biblical stand. I stand with Israel because
God told me to stand with them, and I you know,
and God has never been wrong about that stand. We
have prospered because we have been on the right side
with Israel. And he says, I'll continue to be on

(49:50):
God's side when it comes to Israel. And Tucker just
gave him such a critical uh tunlashing on his show,
slammed him for that. Also, you know, people ask us,
why don't you have the other side on sometimes, Well we.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Make we made that decision right based on as you say,
we're not. You know, we are here to counterbalance with
the left. Says we're not going to bring lefties on
to to spew whatever their agenda is. I think different
shows have different philosophies about this. This is our philosophy.

(50:35):
We don't bring the other sideline. This is the American
Uncensored News network, So we try not to censor what
people say. But for anyone to say these people are
not Jews, what do you mean they're not Jews. Jew
is a religion. Judy is a religion, just like your

(50:57):
your Baptist. And I'm a Catholic, and we consider ourselves
a particular religion because of the church we go to,
because of the thought of the religion, the following of
the religion, the traditions or whatever. So I'm a Catholic

(51:21):
and this is twenty twenty five. Is it the same
Catholicism that Jesus created? No? Is it the same Catholicism
of a one hundred years ago where a thousand years ago? No,
I wasn't there one hundred years ago, a thousand years ago,
but I'm here today and I'm Catholic. So done tell

(51:43):
me I'm not Catholic just because you don't think or
because you say I'm not Catholic. The Jews of long
ago aren't there anymore? Of course not, of course not.
They live their life. But these people that are Jewish

(52:05):
in worship in the religion, I don't say they're not Jews. Well,
you know that's so ridiculous. So ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
It is ridiculous. I want to just make a point
that Cruz said, and this is quoting him, just to
be clear. I called Fwentis a little Nazi, not as
an empty epithet, but rather as an accurate description of
what he says. He believes. Twentis says, Hitler is awesome.
Hitler was right, col Holocaust didn't happen. And we talked

(52:39):
a little bit about how TP action turning point USA
University of Flora Chapter moved moved to remove dozens of
College Republicans from its group, citing their support for Carlson
and Fuentas as violations of hate speech speech.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
How much of that is is and the group was infiltrated.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Well, who knows, but they said we won't tolerate rhetic
rhetoric promoting xenophobia, misogyny, racism, anti Semitism, or any ideology
rooted in discrimination or violence. That's why they said we're
removing these College Republicans. So it has under this argument,

(53:27):
this whatever it is that Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, and
Steve Bannon have brought into the Republican Party is causing schism.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
And when Tucker was on Fox I enjoyed listening to
I thought at that time he made a lot of sense.
Logic and regime made a lot of sense. But I
think most of the time, well with that chair, And
we're going to have to leave it there? Why because

(53:59):
of clock? Me or men? The clock is their mester.
And this is the Conservative Commandos for Sharon Aggel, I'm
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And Welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders. Ready
our show we share at Angle in your Streley. Rick
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next guest is getting to be real regularly here in
the Conservative Commandos, which is our treat We always appreciate

(56:15):
his time with us, and Sharon please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Well, it's my pleasure to introduce Jim Paff, who is
the President of the Conservative Caucus. Jim's political career stretches
over three decades. He also served as chief of staff
for the Colorado House Republican Caucus. He served as founder
and executive director of Americans for Prosperity in Colorado, president

(56:40):
of the Colorado Family Institute, and a national representative for
Family Policy Councils have folks on the family. Jim served
as chief of staff for two different congressmen, Congressman Tom
Massey and Congressman Tim hills Camp. Jim, welcome back to
the Conservative Commando's radio show.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Glad to be with you, Sharon and Rick. Always a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Well, I want to start, I guess with the big things.
I'm not sure whether to start, and you can decide
whether you which one of these you want to talk
about if you want to talk about both of them.
My indecision is Siria a big dig deal, Damascus has fallen,
and the other one is these drones that people are

(57:28):
seeing on the East coast, especially around Rick Trader's neck
of the woods. Yeah, there you go, those are my two.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
No, that's great, it's crazy. Let's talk about Siria just
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Okay, you know.

Speaker 7 (57:42):
Once again, Well, let me preface it by saying, there's
no doubt the Assad family has.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Been evil in many ways.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
I do not want what I'm about to say to
be any endorsement of the Assad family.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
I don't think that that's the case at all. His
father was brutal, He.

Speaker 7 (58:03):
Ordered brutality on people in that country. There's not a
grant of liberty in that country at all. But I
have to say the frustration I have that once again
it seems that our countries going around trying to change
the leaders of countries, meddling in those political affairs, and

(58:27):
it might turn out much worse than it already was,
because what you're likely to have is ISIS in control,
or some factions related to ISIS.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
In control of that country.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
They are the supposed leader of this group that took
down the sod regime is already out.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
There saying we're going to march to Jerusalem.

Speaker 7 (58:49):
I mean, these guys are totally apparently about continuing the
are at least causing the down turn into violence of
everywhere in the Middle East. And the thing is, the
greatest threat are Jewish people in that area, of course,

(59:11):
because you've got radical Muslim populations that want to destroy
the Jewish state and the Jewish people, no.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
But it's not just them. They want to cause problems
for other Muslims in the area.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
You know, Saudi Arabia, there's a push by Isis would
like to take down the Saudi Arabian regime.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
And again, not a great regime that we.

Speaker 7 (59:34):
Have this moral affinity for or that provides any moral clarity.
They're doing better than they used to do, but it's
still a problem of freedom there. But this is a
government that's not destroying people. You even look at what
happened with Asad and the Coptic Christian population in Syria

(59:57):
was at its least risk with someone I have said
is an evil leader of a country. But they were
at relative peace and able to thrive and continue there
where they are thrown out of other places. So this
is the stupid stuff that we do as a government
that we should.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Never be doing.

Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
We need to keep out of this, and I'm very
disappointed by the fact that it seems that the Biden
administration had a little bit to do with this, and
look what the outcome is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
It is crazy. We saw a map last night of
the Kurds and they have come they have come down.
They've become now a force to be reckoned with in Syria.
And also the Israelis are pushing back now across the
goal on Hypes into Syria and levin On building a

(01:00:51):
no man's land that is more defensible for the country
of Israel. They've taken Mount Hermann back, which that's the
headwaters of the Jordan Rivers, so now their water supply
is fairly secured. So there are some good things about this. Sure,
it's this flip over, but like you say, it's kind

(01:01:14):
of a free for all there and not so clear
exactly what's going on. I was surprised that Iran it
has really retracted from this whole thing. They've just said,
we're not involved here anymore. However, they seem to be

(01:01:34):
kind of aiming at us, the big Satan they call us.

Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
They're always going to be that way because they have
such a radicalized nature and the founding of the present
regime in Iran was centered around the takeover of the
American embassy in nineteen seventy nine and all that debacle.
But you know, by the way, it's very interesting. I
haven't heard this talked about publicly, but Mount Hermon is

(01:02:02):
specifically stated as the place of the Transfiguration in the
New Testament, where Jesus and Moses and Elijah talked in
the presence of Peter, John and James.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
I find that really fascinating and intriguing.

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
And I'm not saying there's some any real close connection
to that, but how interesting is that and a reminder
of the historical nature of that entire area.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
But taking full control of the goal.

Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
On Heights and of Mount Hermon, which provided a problem
for the Israeli government because Mount Herman shielded a lot
of their radar capabilities in the area. Now they can
stick their radars straight down into Syria and into Lebanon,
and of course all of them are going to hate it,
but it does give them a better strategic situation, no

(01:02:55):
doubt about it. But it's still even with that, the
instability in the region is getting worse. It's once again
because our government, through the CIA. I guess I heard,
and I haven't got this confirmed, but there was a
report that the CIA we're backing one faction, the State
Department was working with another.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
I mean, how crazy is this?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Here's your favorite team.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
We've got to stop getting into forever wars, getting into
nation building.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
That's not our role as a country.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
We need to focus on helping our situation here so
that we can be very strong. And as we're already
seeing with Donald Trump not even yet inaugurated, peace is
breaking out in a lot of other areas of the
world because a lot of these leaders are coming to
heal recognizing that Donald Trump's about to come on the

(01:03:48):
scene and they're not going to be able to get
by with the stupid crap that they've been getting by with,
proving one of Donald Trump's points throughout his campaign. So
encouragement and great threat all at the same time. And
it's sad to see that we've done this once again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Well, how about Dan in Turkey, So he he's kind
of got his eye on this region as well, and
he's not pro Israel, but he kind of comes into
the mix as well.

Speaker 7 (01:04:16):
What about him, Well, he is an ambitious guy who
loves power. One of the key problems with Ertuwan is
that having come into power after we brought Turkey into
NATO again for the purpose of bringing them into the

(01:04:38):
international community.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
They've gotten more radicalized ever since.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
Erduwan gives cover and help to the most radical Islamic
factions within his country, and it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
Causes a problem that really kind of it provides a
base for other activities that are happening in the area.

Speaker 7 (01:05:03):
This is significant, of course when it comes to Syria,
because Syria shares a border with Turkey and the absolute
when I want to put this the the efforts that
Ertawan and folks in Turkey have been causing against the
Kurdish population. You know they have a key interest in

(01:05:26):
here because there are Kurds in Syria as well too.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
So Erduwan's not.

Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
A very good actor, and I guess he plays the
NATO game fairly well, but there's always instability.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
With his regime.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
In fact, he puts such restrictions on our US Air
Force base and Interlik that really restricts OUR operations in
the area.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Where the ones that are obvious to do so.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
I don't know, it's it's crazy, it's not a well
thought plan on our part. It allows act like Ertawan
to gain more power and influence in the region, and
he has ambitions far beyond his borders, at least politically,
if not geographically.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
So it's a challenge that we've got to deal with.
I think Donald Trump can come on the scene and
clean it up.

Speaker 7 (01:06:15):
A bit, but he's got a lot of work to
do from the State Department immediately out the gate.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Well, and I'm glad you mentioned Trump. I'm glad you
mentioned the Kurds. And there's another little factor in here,
and those are the Drus. Israel would like to see
the Kurds and the Drus kind of get together take
over Syria. The Kurds would like to have their own homeland,
just like Israel has their own homeland. They'd like to

(01:06:44):
kind of get a place for themselves. Do you think
that's even a possibility, knowing that Trump and Nahu are
talking about this, and you know, I don't think it's
any secret that not you would like to work on
that border with folks that are at least halfway friendly,

(01:07:06):
the Drus and the Kurds.

Speaker 7 (01:07:08):
Well, to make that happen, there will have to be
a war in Syria that the Kurds will have to overwhelmingly.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
Yes, in my opinion, yeah, definitely. It doesn't seem like.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
It, but yes, I think it would require that, which
which provides a lot of instability.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
I'm not an expert on that, but I can tell
you this I am.

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
I I do know my history, and this whole problem
with the Kurds was created after World War One with
the Syke's Pico Treaty and other treaties that came into place.
We very poorly, or I should say Great Britain mostly
very poorly, broke up that region and it really set

(01:07:49):
about some time bombs that are blowing up right now.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
There are still land mines there to be had.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
That would be one of them that said we have
a friendly relationship with the Kurdish people, and as does Israel,
and now who's right to wish that? And it would
bring some degree of stability in that country and it
would provide a backstop to a lot of other problems.
But I can guarantee you that Erduwan does not want

(01:08:18):
that to happen at all, because it would strengthen the
courtage population in the region. And I just think it
really opens up the door for some very real problems.
If they were to do that, I think it would
be a great development. If they did, there would be
a much more peace seemingly, a much more peaceful country
in Syria than there presently is.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
But it does open the door to so many problems
that are not easily.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Solved in the Middle East. It is not easily, no,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Jim Path is our guests segment. He's the president of
the Conservative Caucus, and seems like this conversation like a
lot of conversations around Syria. And Hey, Jim, thank you
for holding through that break. We really appreciate your time,
you know, Jim, Ike, this is like a real Pandora's Box,
as I see it. I'll put out my feelings and

(01:09:13):
you tell me where I'm right and where I'm wrong.
Number One by Syria, by the government of Syria fallen.
Russia and Iran, actually, I think are weaker in the
Middle East because of it. Russia, from what I understand,
lose is a seaport. Iran loses a way to get

(01:09:35):
weapons to Hesbala and Hamas that you know. On the
other hand, it's the devil we do versus the devil
you don't you know which is worse to deal with?
You're talking about the forever wars and c in the
Middle East. I remember when there was an eight year

(01:09:56):
war between a Ran and Iraq, there was relative peace.
That's everywhere else and in the least because that word.
I wonder if if of a likelihood of war now
between Siri and Iran, and maybe that'll take some of
the pressure off Israel. The way that war between Iran

(01:10:18):
and Iraq took place.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
Well that that very well might happen. But I will
tell you the Iran Iraq war we meddled in here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
We meddle in all of them.

Speaker 7 (01:10:30):
It does I mean, it's just another for our fortunes
to be laid out so other people can die. And
uh and then I mean, this is what's so crazy
about what we do. We were supporting Saddam Hussein against Iran,
and then after.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
That war was over, we go out and try to destroy.

Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
Saddam Mussin on flimsy evidence like the there was no
evidence that they were supporting how Kaida, and there might
there are certain we were people who liked Al Kayda Interac,
I'm sure at the time, but we support Saddam Mussein,
then we try to take him down. This is this
is crazy time and there in so many ways we

(01:11:17):
create these problems. So the degree to which there was
relative peace in the region at the time of the
Iran Iraq war, okay, I guess yeah, as hundreds of
thousands of people are dying, uh families and others. So
we've got to figure out a way to encourage peace,
which you can do through trade, you can do by

(01:11:40):
us being strong and protecting ourselves and and then really
being fair and honest with everyone in the region. One
of the things that Donald Trump did so well in
his first administration was he he remained He helped us
strengthen our relationships with.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
The allies we already had in Middle East, Israel in.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
Particular, but he also extended those relationships in a positive direction.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
Everywhere else in the Middle East.

Speaker 7 (01:12:07):
We kind of played off or allowed Israel to be
played off against other Arab states and there was no
need for that. He strengthened the relationship with Saudi Arabia,
He did outreach throughout the region, strengthened with Jordan.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
And other places.

Speaker 7 (01:12:25):
We need to get back on that track where we're
talking about peace, talking about how we can build relationships
that are valuable for everyone, and we got to get
back to that talk. So I'm going to be very disappointed.
If we have a major Middle East war. It probably
does take the pressure off of Israel. Frankly, if the Kurds,

(01:12:45):
for example, had some desire to go in there. But
once that seems to take the pressure off Israel, it's
not our job to come in and throw hundreds of
millions of dollars in to get the outcome that we want.
We need to let these things play out. That's exactly
what Donald try I've talked about, by the way, in
this relationship, in this in relation to this most recent development,

(01:13:05):
and that is the attitude that we need to have.
We need to back off of all this and let
other countries figure out their own problems and just protect
our people from threats and harms.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Well, one thing Donald Trump has promised, the end of
the Forever warris thirty nine to forty days Donald Trump
is back in office. But over the past month we've
seen several instances where situations have been elevated. For instance,
in Ukraine, Ukraine's are now using American made rockets to

(01:13:42):
launch attacks into Russia. That's aggravating. Putin, we see what's
happening in Saran right now. I ran in serious Oran.
You know here you go? Is it a rapper in
my merging two countries together. We're seeing what is happening

(01:14:02):
Interan and is Syria now thirty nine forty days and
so the next administration, Jim, it's almost like, Okay, let's
get it all out now, because when Trump comes in,
things are going to change. So any grudges we have
to settle must be settled now. You've seen this, see

(01:14:26):
what I'm talking about, Jim.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
There's going to be some people who are going to
try to settle the.

Speaker 7 (01:14:29):
Grudges now because they feel like that Biden is weak
until Trump comes in. But every country, it seemingly every
country around the world's waking up and putting on the
pause button for a moment. Even Putin, like if Joe
Biden had gotten reelected or Kamala Harris had gotten elected
and the same thing we're happening in Ukraine right now,

(01:14:53):
then Russia would be taking much more aggressive action.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
I guarantee you that that would be the case.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
The threat of localized small effect nuclear weapons, we probably
would have had them being shot at over to Ukraine
to end this thing right away. I mean, we could
be in a very serious situation, because again, don't I
think Putin is evil. I think the guy evily went

(01:15:21):
after Ukraine and invaded Ukraine. I totally reject any rightness
that even some people on our side of it every
once in a while will say.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
But I don't think he had any right to go
at Ukraine. But that said, he's not a dumb guy.

Speaker 7 (01:15:39):
He's actually very intelligent as a politician, and he does
not seem to take actions in a flighty way. And
I think he's just gonna wait and see what happens
when Donald Trump gets in, although he's not going to
make himself look weak and so there's still some threat.
Don't get me wrong, But if Donald Trump can't help

(01:16:02):
find a solution and work with Zelensky and Putin to
find a solution in that region, then it could all
blow up again. So I'm not saying it's all perfect
and sunshine and rainbows, but the best chance of getting
that situation fixed is with Donald Trump. But it is
an outrageous aggressive act for Joe Biden to authorize the

(01:16:25):
shooting of missiles into Russia.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
He is putting the military.

Speaker 7 (01:16:31):
Situation there at risk of escalation and getting far worse.
And he's talking about bringing Ukraine into NATO, which I
don't think Ukraine needs to come into NATO. That's what
Zelensky wants. I don't want it, and I think that
that's overly aggressive as well.

Speaker 8 (01:16:47):
So we've had.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
The good news is we've had such a screwed.

Speaker 7 (01:16:50):
Up international policy from the Biden administration, we just might
be able to set things back in order. We need
to make it really firm and solid over the next
four years. Find a good successor to Donald Trump, because
we're going to need another eight to twelve years for
this to get back into its right order.

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
That's how screwed up things are after the Biden administration.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I agree with you, and as I mentioned earlier, I
think that both the rush Russia and Iran has been
weakened by this, and I think it's not going to
get any better for those parties. No, when Donald Trump
he said first day in office, drill baby, Drill drill here,
dririll now. And what I think that's going to do
is that's going to lower the price of will those

(01:17:34):
oil dollars said Vladimir Putin has been using to fight
this war in the Ukraine. The oil dollars that RAND
that has been using to support terrorism, I think are
going to be greatly diminished. So I think that it
might be a time for Donald Trump to work with
those parties because they are weakened. There would be more

(01:17:57):
willing to negotiate. I don't know if you can negotiate
with the RAN, but I think he can negotiate with Putin.

Speaker 7 (01:18:05):
I think he's going to have negotiating power with a
RAN too, because they know they're about to lose it all.
They were in desperate financial situation at the end of
the Trump administration. Joe Biden totally rescued them. I think
he's going to be able to negotiate with them all.
I mean, remember he negotiated with North Korea. He had

(01:18:27):
a meeting with Kim Jong un, and everyone thought it
was crazy, and yet it helped reset that situation that
both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, even Barack Obama
had made into a bad situation.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
So lots of.

Speaker 7 (01:18:42):
Hope and opportunity there. But yes, Donald Trump negotiating on
the international stage.

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
He's one of the best.

Speaker 7 (01:18:49):
He's had one of the best foreign policies then we've
had in this country, certainly since rom O Reagan. That's
been rare to have such a good situation as we're
about to have now. We've got to take advantage of
it because don't forget all these countries that are potential
threats around the world.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
They will respect Donald Trump and know that.

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
He's serious, but they're still out for their own interests.
It's going to be a touchy, difficult situation. I'm hopeful
that Marco Rubio's up to the task from the State
Department because he's got a lot of heavy work to
do as well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
But I'm very hopeful for the future now and and.

Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
I think hopefully the Middle East gets back in order
as you get the Abraham Accords back in line, and
maybe with this development, Israel can now be able to
pull back from the war that they're undertaking, which they haven't,
by the way, done in ways that I'm entirely pleased with,
I have to tell you, but they have done it

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and their right to do it because they were attacked.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
We need all this to get back in order. Thanks
to Donald Trump, I think we can make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Hey, Jimmy Before I let you go, I want to
talk about something else, something that Sharon alluded to in
her opening, These drones flying over New York and New Jersey.
It's amazing to me that nothing's been done about these
drones up to now. It's amazing to me that these
drones haven't been taken out of the sky. It's amazing

(01:20:22):
to me that a helicopter or helicopters haven't been going
to investigate this. But probably my least favorite Republican congressman today,
and that's Jeff Andrew has said he believed there's an
Iranian ship setting off the coast of the United States

(01:20:43):
that's launching these drones. I wanted to see if you
had any thoughts about that or if you heard the same.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
Story I heard him say this. I have no idea
if it is at all, and I'd like to see
the intelligence behind it. But what it does show is
that we have weak political leaders in this country. This
has got to change. You know, you're the governor of
New Jersey.

Speaker 7 (01:21:10):
Is just outrageous that he is not doing taking any
steps to deal with this, or getting any help from
the Biden administration to deal with it. This this goes
right back to the spy balloon thing with Joe Biden
totally blowing it off, not taking any steps about it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
This is an aggressive action and until we can figure.

Speaker 7 (01:21:29):
Out what the heck is going on with this, then
then it makes us look like fools.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
I mean, we.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
Totally looks foolish. They should be shot down from the
sky by the way.

Speaker 7 (01:21:39):
I recognize and I do respect the fact that you've
got to be really careful with heck as you can
kill people. I understand the challenges and the difficulties, but
we've got a lot of ingenuity in this country. You've
got National Guard bases with aircraft all around the area
who are totally capable of helping deal with this when

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reports come.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Hey, Jim, I think that I think the Channel six
traffic helipicopter to take care of the situation. But you
know these are these are not man their they're drones.
There's no human on them. It would not take very
much to knock these things out of the air. Drones
basically are propeller driven. All it would take is for

(01:22:25):
one of those propellers to be knocked out, that drune's
going to go out of out of whack. I understand
what you say about you have to be careful of
human life and human life on the ground. I wouldn't
I wouldn't advise F thirty five is to be shooting
rockets at these things. But in my opinion, there's got

(01:22:48):
to be a way to bring these things down. Bring
them down, find out where they are, track them back
to wherever they're going, find out where they're coming from,
and deal with it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
Metro area. They've been all over the state of New
Jersey like, there.

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
Are plenty of opportunities to shoot these down, no doubt
about it, and figure out what is going on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Right Jim, Jim Path the Conservative Caucus. Jim, we appreciate
you spending time with us, as we always do. Before
you go, tell us a little bit about the Conservative Caucus,
what you guys do, and how people can keep track
of you and find out more about Conservative Caucus well.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
The Conservative Caucus.

Speaker 7 (01:23:29):
The Conservative Caucus is the oldest conservative grassroots organization in
the nation. When this is our fifty year anniversary this year.
We were found in nineteen seventy four by a great patriot,
Howard Phillips, who we all respected in the conservative movement.
I came on this year to help direct us into
a new generation of work. And we've got grassroots people

(01:23:51):
all over the country ready to get active. In fact,
they're waiting for me to do a lot more to
help them get active, and we're going to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
We got excited. We got new state leaders coming on
all the time.

Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
If people would like to get involved, they need to
go to our website, the Conservative Caucus dot org. Click
on the sign up logo at the top right of
the page. We have training resources for people who want
to be effective in their local community for grassroots.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
We can help them with that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
We're gonna be doing grassroots trainings around the country coming up.
We're gonna have action items happening out of Washington, DC
to support Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
We're going to be involved with that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:32):
And so if people would like to figure out what
we're doing, get on our email list, get involved, and
learn how to be effective grassroots leaders. They need to
go to the Conservative Caucus dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
You know, Jim I warned people all the time donald
Trump's victory, I wouldn't even call that a battle. You know,
that was just a skirmis in an ongoing battle, in
an ongoing where we won. That we won that scrimas,
but we just can't let up. We just cannot let up.

(01:25:06):
We've got to be forever vigilant, forever active. We're up
against a very motivated, very well funded left that will
not be just walking away from this.

Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
That's quite true, and what's encouraging is that message, I
think is getting to Trump supporters. When you look at
the fact that Joni Ernst, for example, was not going
to support Peek head Seth and Trump World came out
in droves on social media and elsewhere and said, now,
we're not going to have that. She had to react

(01:25:41):
to that. That's the power of citizen grassroots politics. That's
what we want to inspire as an organization. But Trump
supporters totally get it. They know they've only got four
years of Donald Trump and we got to do it right.
There's no room for error. I'm very encouraged by that.
We want to do our part to support peaceeople who
have that attitude and to help train them to do

(01:26:04):
that much better.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
But that is the hope for the future. And you
are absolutely right.

Speaker 7 (01:26:08):
Our enemy is not going to back down. They're going
to find every way they can to take us out,
just like they did before. And they'll do in the future.
So now's the time, folks. We got to do all
the work to win immediately. And if you if you
want us to help you with that, go to Theconservative
Caucus dot Org Jim Path.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Conservative Caucus says Jim, Thank you so much for joining us,
Take care and God bless Thanks Sharon.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
Thanks Rick and you are.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Listening to and watching The Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angle.
I'm Rick Trader. On the other side, we're going to
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Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
My pleasure to introduce Adam Milsapp, who is a senior
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(01:29:18):
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in economics at John Hopkins University, Florida State University, and
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(01:29:38):
Radio Show.

Speaker 8 (01:29:40):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Well, I'm kind of excited to get into a topic
with you, and that is executive orders. I guess you
know there's a plan for one hundred executive orders that
should be done immediately. I was thinking, mean to repeal
a few but talk to me a little bit about

(01:30:04):
how that works, what an executive order really is, and
why it doesn't have to go through Congress, and how
I guess how binding it is to us, how legal
it is.

Speaker 8 (01:30:17):
Yeah, so thank you so much again for having me.

Speaker 9 (01:30:19):
My colleagues and I co authors and I recently released
a booklet talking about how to restore the Republic.

Speaker 8 (01:30:26):
And this involves both restoring what some people call.

Speaker 9 (01:30:30):
Horizontal federalism, so the powers between Congress and the executive branch,
which have been completely messed up mostly over the last
you know, eighty or so years since the New Deal,
what was going on before that as well. And then
there's and then there's vertical federalism, so thinking about the
relationship between the states and the federal government. And so

(01:30:50):
part of this, part, part of this reforming and restoring
the Republic to the way the Constitution and our bounding
fathers intended, does involve some things that the executive branch
can do when it's so some executive orders.

Speaker 8 (01:31:01):
So this could be a regulatory budget.

Speaker 9 (01:31:05):
This was something that Trump did in his first administration,
and so a regulatory budget just requires agencies to constrain
their regulations up to some amounts, so they have to
think about trade offs. Right, They can't just regulate everything
in sight and do whatever they want to do. They
have to think about, well, if we regulate this, it's
going to cost this much. It's going to impose this
kind of burden on the private sector. So that might

(01:31:26):
stop them from doing then another regulation so that regulations
don't just continue to pile up. So Trump did that
under an executive order because again, the president controls the agencies,
so we can kind of dictate to.

Speaker 8 (01:31:37):
Them how they should behave and how they should think
about regulation.

Speaker 9 (01:31:40):
So that's one example of an executive order that Trump
or another president who cares about restoring the proper relationship
between the executive branch and the legislative branch could go
about trying to do that so that the you know,
like I said, the agencies don't run rough shot over
are appointed, are voted on our elected lawmakers, right, I mean,
ideally we want Congress to be deciding what the laws

(01:32:02):
of the land are. They're the people that we elect
to do that job, not writing vague laws and then.

Speaker 8 (01:32:09):
Letting the agencies fill in the gaps.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Okay, you mentioned the appointments clause of the Constitution. I
thought that was really interesting. Let's talk about that appointment's clause.

Speaker 9 (01:32:21):
Yeah, So appointments, so the Senate has to so the president,
you know, appoints people to certain roles.

Speaker 8 (01:32:26):
We're seeing that right now right Trump's picking his cabinet.

Speaker 9 (01:32:28):
He's picking various people to fill certain positions, and for
a lot of those positions, the Senate has to has
to confirm them. Sometimes what happens when you think about
the federal government again not really obeying at least the
spirit of the Constitution is you might not have someone
who's confirmed by the sentence by the Senate who's actually
signing off on agency orders. So sometimes there's appointments that happen.

(01:32:52):
You have an acting person who's there who hasn't been
confirmed by the Senate or they've been unable to fill
the role. So a lifetime bureaucrat is fulfilling the responsibilities.
And the idea is that we should have someone who
is appointed by the president that we elected, again trying
to tie this to who we elected, and then is
then appointed and confirmed by the people in the Senate

(01:33:13):
who we also elected. So that you don't have some
bureaucrat who's running around, who's never who's not being held accountable,
you know, promulgating and signing off on regulations that these
agencies are then imposing on American citizens.

Speaker 8 (01:33:26):
So yes, it's really just about, like I.

Speaker 9 (01:33:27):
Said, making sure that both branches are acting not only
it like what the Constitution says illegally, but also given
the spirit of the Constitution and not trying to subvert it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Okay, So Congress can do a few things too, like
the private tiering provisions that invests enforcement powers in private parties.
Talk about that a little bit. How what the goal
would be there? I really this kind of touched me.

Speaker 8 (01:33:57):
Yeah, so this is so this is something that a
lot of people don't know about. I didn'tally know about
it as I started working with my co authors on
this on this booklet.

Speaker 9 (01:34:04):
Is that there are the way some laws and some
rules are written is that a private organization can can
alert the government to some rule being violated, and then
if the government rules against that other party and in
the settlement, they might order that some of the settlement
be given to a private organization. Right, So, say you

(01:34:24):
do like an EPA violation. You violated some environmental law
on the Sierra Club identifies it, the government might order
as part of the settlement that that company has to
pay the Sierra Club twenty million dollars.

Speaker 8 (01:34:35):
Right, And so it creates this weird, perverse.

Speaker 9 (01:34:37):
Incentive for private companies to basically be enforcing federal rules.
The idea is that the executive branch has discretion over
which rules it enforces.

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:34:49):
Again, this is part of the powers vested in the
Constitution to the executive branch. That's why different administrations enforce
different rules.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:34:54):
You might get some administrations who really care about, you know,
the environments, so really they're really heavy and that environmental
les I mean, I think the FDC right now is
a great example. Right, Lena Khan at the FDC is
being very strict or at least in her or in
her determination, is being very strict on enforcing antitrust, whereas
another FTC commissioner might let more things go through, let

(01:35:15):
more mergers happen. Right, So they can be there's some
discretion in the level of enforcement you can do, but
that belongs to the executive branch, not to the Sierra
Club or some other organization out there saying oh, no,
we're going to go enforce this rule and then we're
going to reap some of the rewards.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:35:28):
That's just privateering ideas that they're reaping some of the
rewards and it's not really their duty to be enforcing
it in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Well, you know, I like this idea that we need
accountability that is close to the people, and you talk
a little bit about how we get some of that
accountability back into the states.

Speaker 8 (01:35:47):
Yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 9 (01:35:49):
I mean we talk about I think the federal federalism
gets most of the attention.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:35:53):
People get concerned about the administrative state and all these
rules that are happening, but less people realize how much
the relationship between this states and the federal government has
been eroded over the years, where in some cases it
seems like the states are basically just administrative units of
the federal government.

Speaker 8 (01:36:08):
The federal government hasses policies and then the states implement them.

Speaker 9 (01:36:11):
They're kind of passive observers to like the world around them,
and everything just happens at the federal level.

Speaker 8 (01:36:15):
So what we argue in this booklet is that there's
ways to correct that. One of them is to make
grants block grants.

Speaker 9 (01:36:22):
So this has been talked about a lot in terms
of Medicaid, but the idea is that when this if
the federal government is going to give states to money,
they should do it in the form of block grants.

Speaker 8 (01:36:29):
That allow the details to be filled out by the
state or the state. Can can you pass that.

Speaker 9 (01:36:34):
Power on to say a local official if it's a
city program or something like that, a mayor or city council.

Speaker 8 (01:36:38):
The idea being that the states get the right to details.

Speaker 9 (01:36:41):
They're the ones who are closest to the people that
are interacting with these programs. And then if the programs
aren't functioning properly, citizens nowhere to go. They go to
the state or local officials and say, hey, this program's
not working really well, how can we make it better?

Speaker 8 (01:36:52):
Whereas now they go to the state of local official
and they say, hey, our hands was high. This is
not our program. We just hand out the money. But
the government rights, but the federal government rites the rules.

Speaker 9 (01:37:00):
Now the citizen who's trying to understand the programs like,
oh great, so I have to go to like my representative,
Do I go to my senator, Do I go to
the do I make a complaint to the Department of Labor.

Speaker 8 (01:37:07):
You know who do I complain to? And so the
idea is just to.

Speaker 9 (01:37:10):
Make it easier for the states to hold their elected
officials accountable for the programs when they don't work.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Right well, and I think that you've really hit on
something as the state legislator. These things that come down
from the federal government are definitely often almost always unfunded mandates.
You only get a part and a small part of
that of the required money that it takes to implement.

(01:37:37):
So I would think that something like that would be
really appealing to state lawmakers because when you're trying to
juggle a budget and figure out how to fund something
that the Feds have have rolled down at you, it's
very difficult.

Speaker 8 (01:37:53):
Yeah, absolutely right.

Speaker 9 (01:37:54):
A lot of these things come down and the federal
government promise is part of the funding. People get excited
from from what they is free money. Oh, look at
we're getting this free money from the federal government. But
really there's long term obligations that come along with this
kind of stuff, and so that's something that the state's
also need to be aware of. Another one of our
reforms that we suggest is that any kind of grant
should specify what proportion of the federal money that it's

(01:38:17):
covering over the long term cost. So take an example
like the Department of Justice has a lot of grants
that can do to say support local law enforcement. So
say you get a grant from the DOJ that says, hey,
we're going to give you a million dollars to help
you hire a new police officer. So you hire a
new police officer, and that police officer is expected to
make one hundred thousand dollars over a twenty five year period.
So that's two and a half million dollars total costs
of that police officer, say, over the course of his career. Well,

(01:38:38):
if you only get a million dollars, that's only covering
forty percent of the total cost. Where's the other sixty
percent coming from? Right, that's going to be on the
local jurisdiction is going to have to think about how
we're going to come up with the other sixty percent.
But that should be really clear and upfront, you know,
and the federal government should be required to make to
make sure that the state realizes there's some ongoing liabilities
that you're going to have to worry about.

Speaker 8 (01:38:57):
If you take this money.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Now, we have an unfunded mandate requirement in our constitution
here in Nevada, and what it says is that the
Legislative Council Bureau, that's the lawyers that work for the
legislature have to alert everyone that a bill is an
unfunded mandate from the FEDS, that it only covers education

(01:39:24):
is notoriously bad for this They and health and human services.
When we get a mandate down from them, and we've
actually said unless it's completely funded, we don't want it.
We can reject it at our state line. Is that
something that you're recommending states to do is take art
or alignment the Feds. If you're going to tell us

(01:39:45):
to do something, make sure it's completely funded, or don't
bring it into our state.

Speaker 9 (01:39:51):
As great advice, and states can do this on their own,
and like you said, some states do. Our recommendation is
that the federal government should take the responsibility to do that.
But if they're not going to, which is the case currently,
and like I said, we'd love to see that reform.
States that should step up and say, listen, we're going
to calculate this upfront. If we're getting a grant for
only part of it, and we're going to be on
the hook for the rest. We're going to make sure
that our state lawmakers know what we're on the hook for,

(01:40:12):
and we have some plan about where we're going to
get that money in the future, whether that's levying new taxes,
cutting some.

Speaker 8 (01:40:17):
Other program so that we're not surprised right the government.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
And it's great cover for a conservative legislator who wants
to say to the press, I didn't vote for this
bill because it is an unfunded mandate. And also in
our constitution we have a balanced budget amendment, which says
that at the end of the day, you can't spend
more money than you've got and so you're either going

(01:40:44):
to have to tax the people more or figure out
where you're not going to spend the money. So those
two things should keep us, should keep us fairly fairly solvent.
But it doesn't because the legislators themselves ignore them. Have
you got a plan to say to legislators, we're going
to expose you if you you know, if you do this,

(01:41:06):
And at the federal level and also at the state level,
it seems like the people need to know. I guess
that's what I'm getting.

Speaker 9 (01:41:13):
To Yeah, no, there needs to be more transparency, and
like I said, this is up to every level of government.
We shouldn't be trying to hide things from our citizens. Right,
these are truly good ideas. If policymakers really think these
are all good ideas, then just just be upfront about
what they're going to cost instead of playing these little
games and you know, office skating and who's paying for it.

Speaker 8 (01:41:29):
We'll worry about that later, right, Let's just pass it now.
You know, this is this is what too many of
our politicians do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:41:35):
They don't want to be upfront and transparent with this
because they're afraid we're going to reject their their their
little pet program.

Speaker 8 (01:41:41):
But that's really their responsibility, it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
And you know we as I've watched legislators do this,
they'll say, well, the federal government is paying for it,
but honestly, the federal government probably is only paying for
about ten percent or maybe even less of that program.
They're just one to put their name on this grand
program that's going to benefit so many people, and actually

(01:42:06):
it all goes right to the next election rather than
the next generation.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
I want to thank our guests for Adam Millsap. He's
a senior fellow working on economic issues that stand together trust,
Restoring the Republic a blueprint for constitutional administration. Thank god
you didn't say restoring the democracy. Now I'm going to
get on my soapbox a little bit here, Hey, Adam,

(01:42:32):
does it does it call at you when people call
our nation our republican democracy?

Speaker 8 (01:42:40):
I mean, I definitely like the term republic better, right,
I mean, that's what it is. We use democracy, voting
as a as a means to, you know, construct the
republic when we.

Speaker 9 (01:42:48):
Think about our life. That officials right, but republic for
a reason. And I think, I think that's actually one
of the big downfalls in America. So if I could
plug a book from my friend Randy Holcomb, he wrote
a book from called a From Liberty to Democracy, and
the idea being that at the founding liberty was the
primary principle that everyone kind of rallied around and agreed
with what America stood for. And then over the last

(01:43:10):
two hundred and fifty years it's really slid over to
this idea of democracy. Everything's about protecting our democracy, protecting democracy,
but democracy is just a means to an end, right,
the end being protected liberty and democracy is a pretty.

Speaker 8 (01:43:22):
Good way to do that.

Speaker 9 (01:43:23):
Voting on things is a pretty good way to do
that relative to like a monarchy or dictatorship. But that's
the only reason democracy is good is because it's better
at protecting liberty.

Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
If it was bad at that, then it would also
be bad.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Okay, And now I'm going to continue my little soapbucks here.
Sharonell love this Oxtokfel said, the American Republic will endure
until the day Congress discovers the way it can bribe
the public with the public's money. Adam, isn't that what
all these mandates are? Bribing the public? A politician finding

(01:43:57):
a way to reward the people who voted for him
for put him in office, to keep him in office.
Isn't that what this the Isn't that what has driven
this country into thirty five trillion dollars in debts, These
on these mandates that are not in this little book
called the Constitution.

Speaker 9 (01:44:18):
Absolutely, I mean totally, I totally agree with you, right,
I mean, we have a huge problem in this country
of special interest, you know, being maintaining their hold over
certain policy makers to make sure certain programs are funded
while the rest of the Americans end up paying for it,
and everyone has a special program. That's why everyone's in
favor of cutting spending. You talk to any policy maker, oh,
the debts a problem, the deficits are a problem.

Speaker 8 (01:44:38):
We need to cut spending.

Speaker 9 (01:44:40):
They're okay with it in the abstract, But the minute
you start talking about, okay, what are the real cuts
going to be, everyone says, oh, you can't touch that
that benefits mine, that benefits the people in my district,
or that benefic is company in my district. Right you're
seeing some of that right now with the inflation production
at something that no Republicans signed off on, it completely
passed through Democrats has a bunch of spending on green
energy subsidies, electric vehicles, all these subsidies, and what you're

(01:45:02):
hearing those is a lot of Republicans now want to
keep it because they think that some factory in their
district is benefiting from it.

Speaker 8 (01:45:07):
You know, and this is a huge problem.

Speaker 9 (01:45:09):
We're never going to make progress on the deficit of
the debt until people are willing to make hard choices.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
Adam, what's you're feeling about those? Do you think it's
going to have a real effect.

Speaker 9 (01:45:19):
I think it's an exciting opportunity. Whether it has a
real effect, We'll have to see what kind of powers
is granted by Congress and what kind of budget it gives,
and how it's exactly going to work.

Speaker 8 (01:45:28):
But I'm excited about it. It's bringing attention to the
problem if nothing else.

Speaker 9 (01:45:31):
Right, people are talking about government efficiency, people are talking
about cutting spending, you know, right, sizing regulation. So it's
a great inflection point and promotional opportunity for the ideas
that I think us on this call have been talking about,
you know for decades.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
Your booklet Blueprint for Constitutional Administration Bineer Institute offers Blueprint
for Federal Administrative Reform. It talks about a booklet. Is
this a booklet that's available? Bolts everybody?

Speaker 8 (01:46:01):
Absolutely? Yeah, you can download a pdf.

Speaker 9 (01:46:03):
There will be some hard copies, but you can download
a pdf on the Pioneer Institute's website. I mean, we
would love to get this in the hands of dough
So if anybody, hey, Eli, if you're listening the veck, hey, well,
we love to send you a copy with some great
ideas in here that I would love to see them
run with.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
They have they reached out to you or you to
them not yet.

Speaker 9 (01:46:19):
Unfortunately, I've been talking with some people who have also
been trying to figure out the best avenue to get
in front of them. So I think everyone's anxious to
get ideas in front of them. And there's tons of
good ideas. I mean, you know, cutting spending and right
sizing regulation is something the right of center groups have
been talking about for years.

Speaker 8 (01:46:34):
There's no shortage of ideas.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
You know, well it has in here. The Guide Device
proposed reforms into four categories. Number one, restoring the Presidential
Management Authority. Can you describe that to Whissel? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:46:49):
So the idea is you saw some of this one
of the first Trump administration. The idea is that you
have a lot of.

Speaker 9 (01:46:54):
Agencies that aren't beholden to some of the checks and balances,
even within the own executive branch. Right, So, within the
Office of Management of Budgetment, there's this institution called the
Office of Regulatory Affairs a WIRA, and they're supposed to
review regulations that are promulgated by the agencies to make
sure they do a cost benefit analysis comply with the
Administrative Procedures Act. But some agencies don't have to send

(01:47:15):
their stuff to AHIRA, Right, and this is like something like,
why don't they have to send them? Well, I mean
some reason we decide that they were independent agencies, and
there aren't. They aren't accountable to the elected president. That's ridiculous, Right,
those agencies should have to go along with the same
rules that all the other agencies have to have to
abide by. There's also reforms about the labor market. Right,
there's some people who out and some of these are

(01:47:36):
good ideas, right as if there's too many unelected bureaucrats
in senior positions that aren't necessarily aligned with the president's agenda, so.

Speaker 8 (01:47:44):
What should have done about that? Perhaps we need more more.

Speaker 9 (01:47:46):
Appointed positions, less and less lifetime bureaucrats so that the
president can get the people in the agencies that are
going to execute the agenda that the American people elected.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Right, Adam might have this little solution with that is
it's to take get all these government departments and agencies
to move them to No Malaska and tell these people
they have to show up for work tomorrow morning, no
matter what the temperature is. Also also in the guy
that talks about restoring separation of powers within with a
particular focus on restoring the power to Congress. Yes, explain

(01:48:20):
the anithwist please.

Speaker 8 (01:48:22):
So Congress is, you know Congress.

Speaker 9 (01:48:24):
Everyone thought the founding filers that they're writing the Constitution,
and they were thinking about their republic. They thought that
the Congress was going to be the most powerful branch
of government. Right, it had the power of the purse,
It writes the laws. The executive branch and the judicial
branch were kind of going to be a check on Congress.

Speaker 8 (01:48:37):
But that's not what's happened.

Speaker 9 (01:48:38):
Instead, we've we've pretty much Congress has pretty much given
all of its powers over to the executive branch and
the president, right, I mean, the agencies write most of
the laws now through their rules. There are barely ever
laws that are passed from like Congress itself. You know,
spending is basically on autopilot because Congress can't pass a budget,
and so the president has a ton of discretion over
how funds are allocated, you know, within agencies and stuff

(01:49:01):
like that. So it's up to Congress to really reassert
its power and to do what the Constitution intended.

Speaker 8 (01:49:08):
The judicial branch helped us a.

Speaker 9 (01:49:10):
Little bit along with this recent Supreme Court season with
getting rid of Chevron, defference. Right, So now you know,
Congresses have to think a little harder about how it
writes its laws because it can't just expect the agencies
to interpret them and write them however they want, because
the courts might strike them down and say, hey, Congress,
you weren't very specific when you wrote this, and.

Speaker 8 (01:49:27):
This agency is not doing it's just doing whatever it wants.
We're not going to allow that.

Speaker 9 (01:49:32):
You need to write your laws a little more, with
a little more detail here, rather than just deferring to
the agencies to fill in all the gaps.

Speaker 8 (01:49:38):
So hopefully things like.

Speaker 9 (01:49:39):
That will force Congress to be a little more thoughtful
about the laws that it passes.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Well, do you think the Chevron decision will actually change
things or just make Congress think a little harder how
to write these things to get around.

Speaker 8 (01:49:53):
I think it will change things.

Speaker 9 (01:49:54):
I think Congress will definitely think a little harder before
it does something. I think the agencies l also think
a little harder.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:49:59):
They won't necessarily be able to put forth rules and
just say, well, Congress was a little vague about how
it wrote this, so we should be okay. The course
will give us a pass because they're going to defert us.
Now they're gonna have to be like, well, well, this
Congress really give us this authority? Is that really in
the statute anywhere? Because if we try to push this
rule over and it's not in the statue, there's a
good chance the courts are going to strike it down
or we're gonna have to start from scratch. So hopefully

(01:50:20):
it will force the agencies to also be a little
more thoughtful and think and think really hard about how
this ties to the statute that Congress actually passed.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Well, you and Sharon touched a little bit about this
by making the division of the states and federal government.
Wre mean, if you guys talked about the mandates, but
does Supreme Court decisions like the I'm Not Real vw
Waight but bringing down review weight putting that back on

(01:50:48):
the states. Do you think this is the beginning of
more power going back to the states.

Speaker 9 (01:50:56):
I hope so, I mean, we absolutely need the states
to kind of reassert their authority. Right, they're sovereign under
the Constitution. They are not just departments of the federal government.
The Constitution gives some powers to the federal government reserves
all the other powers to the states. And it's really
time for the states that are saying, hey, federal government,
that's not your area, right us, let us handle that.
Not only is it just constitutionally correct to do that,

(01:51:16):
but it's also just going to leave the better government.
The federal government just does too much and it can't
do any of it well. It's spread so thin because
it's trying to be everything to everybody. If we allow
the fifty states, these laboratories of democracy, more experimentation, let
them try things, and then the citizens can hold them
accountable because it's very clear who's doing what. You know,
It's like I was telling Sharon earlier, right now, it's
just confusing. You complain to your state of you can
plain to your local official because they're the ones who are.

Speaker 8 (01:51:38):
Seemingly administering the program.

Speaker 9 (01:51:40):
But then they just say, hey, we're just doing what
the federal government tells us, right, And that's just confusing
for citizens.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:51:46):
So we're just going to make it easier for.

Speaker 9 (01:51:47):
Citizens to hold their governments accountable, and that starts by
allowing the states to do more in the federal government
doing less.

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Job's decision is what I'm was looking for. Mitigating the
threats to individual liberty. I think we've seen a lot
of that in the past four years and during the
Obama administration, mitigating the threats to individual liberty that are
posed by expansion of the administrative state.

Speaker 9 (01:52:15):
Yeah, and that's what we've been seeing over the last year,
like I said, the last eighty years, right, I mean,
the federal regulations just go up and up and up.

Speaker 5 (01:52:21):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:52:22):
People are committing crimes all the time, right, there's the
book that ever, you know, came out several years ago.
Now that everyone's committing two crimes a day or three
times a day or whatever it is.

Speaker 8 (01:52:28):
We don't even know that we're.

Speaker 9 (01:52:31):
Violating because there's so many I mean, you go to
Congress and you ask, you ask a representative how many
crimes are there in the United States.

Speaker 8 (01:52:38):
No one can answer you. That's a problem.

Speaker 9 (01:52:42):
We don't know how many crimes, how many criminal uh,
you know statutes are out there that we might be violating. Right,
So it basically creates world where if someone doesn't like you, right,
they can find a crime. Right, everyone's committing one. If
someone doesn't like you, they can find someone you're violating.
And that's not how a free society should operate.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
You know, Adam, and then you've got committing crimes by
not committing crimes. And I use an example. There was
a New Jersey beach town that was told that they
had to put ramps making the beach accessible to the handicap.
And then another group of bureaucrats come along and find
the same town, you know what for putting the ramps

(01:53:20):
onto the beaches to make it accessible to the handicap.
One last thing, and then we'll let you go at him. Notably,
the authors also called for seventeen executive orders to be
issued in the first hundred days. Adam, I'm excited for
January twenty first. I told Sharon the other day, we're

(01:53:40):
having a special show on January twenty first, because I
want to see what Trump does in the first day,
forget the first hundred days. Are you looking forward to
that also?

Speaker 9 (01:53:52):
Yeah, I think it'll be very I think it'll be interesting, right.
I think it's going to be way more prepared this time.
You know, last time it was his first time holding
any kind of office. I don't think it really knew
what he was getting in to. I mean, it's a
tough job obviously. This time, though, he knows he's done
it before. He's prepared.

Speaker 8 (01:54:05):
He's ready to go.

Speaker 9 (01:54:06):
There have been groups behind the scenes getting stuff ready.
I think he's going to hit the ground running. I
hope there's some good ones. There's a lot of good
options out there. I think he'll definitely be able to
get stuff done on the first day. He'll be able
to fill more of the positions he needs to fill
so that the government can start operating on day one.
So yeah, I think he's going to be way more
productive this time than he was last time, not only
on that first day, but in that first one hundred

(01:54:27):
days and then again just throughout the presidency, because he
just has experience now, right, and I think people are.

Speaker 8 (01:54:32):
Ready with ideas that I think the.

Speaker 9 (01:54:33):
American people are behind, you know, reducing regulation, make it
easier to produce energy, you know, lowering taxes, and then
hopefully cutting spending along with that so that we get
our deficits under control.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
Adam, I think you have seen that experience with his
cabinet picks. I think you're seeing that experience that he learned.
I think he learned a lesson from his first administration,
and I think he learned lessons of how to avoid
some of the pitfalls he fell into at a Millset

(01:55:03):
senior fellow and we're working on economic ushoes that Stand
Together Trust. We want to thank you so much for
joining us here, Adam, But before you go, tell our audience,
our viewers, and our listeners how they could follow you,
follow you work, get this booklet and tell us a
little bit about more about the Stand Together Trust.

Speaker 9 (01:55:22):
Absolutely So, I'm on LinkedIn, I'm on Twitter at a
underscore millsap. The book is published by the Pioneer Institute
out of Massachusetts. You can go to their website and
you've been download a COPDF copy.

Speaker 8 (01:55:33):
It is dense reading.

Speaker 9 (01:55:34):
I don't expect you to get through all of it,
but certainly peruse it if administrative state reform is your thing.
Stand Together Trust, where I spend most of my time,
is a grant making organization, part of the Stand Together
philanthropic community, and we support social entrepreneurs, a lot of
policy organizations, the kind of groups and people that are
giving these good ideas to Trump and Doge about reforming regulation,

(01:55:55):
cutting red tape, unleashing energy, and getting our fiscal house
in order.

Speaker 8 (01:55:59):
So that's what we do is Together Trust, and.

Speaker 9 (01:56:01):
It's a great organization, and we think we're doing really
important work and hopefully we see some of the fruits
of that.

Speaker 8 (01:56:05):
Work here over the next four years.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Website.

Speaker 9 (01:56:09):
Our website is a standogether dot org and like I said,
I'm also on you'd also find me on LinkedIn and Twitter.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
And do you have a website for the Pioneer Institute.

Speaker 8 (01:56:19):
Yeah, I think I believe it's Pioneer Institute dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
Okay at a milse up Again, thank you so much
for joining us, Take care and God.

Speaker 8 (01:56:26):
Bless Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
I appreciate it. Have a good one and you are
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Speaker 8 (01:59:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
And is it's always my great pleasure to thank our
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