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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots. Welcome Fello to Portbulls,
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But then if you think the way George Landrath does,
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the Conservative Commandos radio show. And I'm Rick Trader coming

(00:30):
to you from the My Pila studios and My Story
studios of the AUN TV network and joining me today
as he does to lead off the week, is the
president and CEO of Frontier's Freedom and that is George Landers.
And George, welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's great to be here. This is the place to be.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I always enjoyed doing the show with you because we
talk about important issues. Of course, the Conservative Commandos AU
and TV network, so it's like a win.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Win win indeed. Indeed, indeed, so George, what's on your
radar screen?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, there's a lot of things on my radar screen.
It can be sometimes puzzling, but I thought the government
shutdown ending is interesting because it was a record. It
was the longest shutdown in history of forty three days.
And of course the government's now opened up again. But
it's interesting kind of what exposed. The shutdown exposed a

(01:29):
lot of very interesting things. And one, of course, with
one of our guests, will discuss a conversation we had
with Roger Arnoff about this. And it was the first
time around this spring when there was the vote to
have a continuing resolution, and Schumer interestingly enough supported the
continuing resolution in the spring, but then this fall, no,

(01:51):
he did not. He was all about the shutdown, and
yet it was the same basic issues.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
But what we've now revealed is.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
The fact that things like this, they want to make
sure that we're funding and providing money for illegal aliens
so that they can keep them here because one of
the dangers in their minds of getting rid of all
these benefits that we've been handing out hundreds of millions
of dollars is that they leave, because if there's not

(02:19):
all kinds of you know, free food, free housing, free everything,
then they'll go, oh, okay, well I'll just leave. And
they don't want them to leave because that will harm
their political power because they've very carefully made sure that
they were in blue states to give them an extra
fifteen to twenty congressional seats and also to give them

(02:43):
an extra fifteen to twenty electoral votes. They don't want
to lose that because imagine if they lost the last
election by another fifteen or twenty electoral votes, it was
already a landslide, but then it would become epic. And then,
of course if they were to lose the House and
the cent by even more than they have, and it
wasn't a thin majority for the Republicans, So it's very

(03:05):
clear why all of a sudden they changed on that.
And then on top of that, that's not the only issue.
The other issue is that they basically want to have
the average American be lied to about Obamacare. In other words,
Obamacare has increased healthcare premiums by over three hundred percent,
and it's getting close to four hundred percent, and yet
it was supposedly it was called the Affordable Care Act.

(03:29):
It reminds me also of the Inflation Reduction Act. Of course,
it didn't do that. It wasn't even intended to do that.
That was just a name they gave it to lie
to you. It's like when Obama told you, if you
like your healthcare, you can keep it. If you like
your doctor, you can keep it. The statute didn't provide
for that. I remember reading it and going, what's he saying?

(03:49):
That's not even in that's just nuts. And the answer is,
and we now know because some of his own staff
have told us that they did polling, and they understood
that they had to convince the average America that this
Obamacare would not do damage to their current situations. And
so the lie was designed to defraud the Americans and

(04:10):
get them to support something that was a bad idea.
And now we know because now we have fifteen years
of experience, or ten to fifteen years, and guess what,
it's three to four hundred percent higher than it was then.
And they want to make sure that the government hides
that fact from the average American by providing very large subsidies.

(04:31):
And what's interesting is they'll provide subsidies to people who
are multi millionaires to hide it from them too. So,
to be honest, it's becoming clear and clear, like the
election in Virginia demonstrates, like the election in New York
City demonstrates, that the Democratic Party is no longer a
party of normal people it's a party of extremists and kooks,

(04:54):
and it's just funny. How like in Virginia, the governor
candidate spanburgerd to be, as she did when she ran
for Congress, a moderate.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
She was a moderate, she told you.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
But if you look at her track record, her voting record,
there's nothing moderate about her at all.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
She is not a moderate.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
And ask yourself, would a moderate be okay with running
and endorsing a guy who says he wants to kill
his opponent and his opponent's children in their mother's arms.
I'm thinking to myself, that doesn't sound very moderate to me.
That sounds kind of fascist and communist, another's totalitarian. Some

(05:34):
gonna say you can't call them that, and answers, oh,
yes I can, because you've been calling every conservative for
the last decade that, And.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
This is true.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I know enough history to know who the fascists were.
One they were socialists, they were Marxists, they were not
right wingers. And so if you have a college professor
who tells you that fascists were right wingers, then you
need to drop out of that college because it means
you have a professor who's a moron and doesn't know
anything about history, and that he's ripping you off, that

(06:05):
you're spending money to get an education from an idiot.
That would be like having a math professor who told
you that two plus two is twenty two. And so
bottom line is, for example, the Nazi Party was the
National Socialist Party. There you go, and Hitler was a
card carrying socialist and internationally he knew all the major

(06:27):
socialists and was there at friend and ally. People say, oh, well,
he didn't like the Communist because he declared war on them.
The answer is, he didn't dislike Communism or Marxism. He
just wanted to control Russia and so it was his
goal to use the power. Because it's like bottom line is,
at one point he was controlling Italy and Italy was fascist.

(06:48):
You know, it's kind of interesting. So what did he
hate fascism? No, he wanted to control all of Europe
and so it wasn't about ideology, it was about control.
And so these professors say this kind of stuff, they
are low IQ individuals or they're just indoctrinating people falsehood.
And if I were the dean of the college, if

(07:09):
I had a math professor who was teaching students that
two plus two was twenty two. I would tell them,
you do that one more time, you're fired because we're
not going to spend money paying you one hundred thousand
dollars a year away.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, see, George, there's that's the problem. Stuff, that's the problem.
You're not in charge. See, and unfortunately you're not a
position to to make that decision. But George, you've given
me so much to unpack. I don't know that we're
going to have time in this segment, but I will try.
First of all, this idea that oh wait, was the
Republicans that shut down Congress? Well, do the math, do

(07:46):
the simple math. Republicans, how many votes were there topah government?
Like fifteen each and every time there was a vote taken,
every Republican voted except for one. On Every Republican except
for one in the Senate voted to keep the government open.

(08:07):
Every Democrat, every Democrat in the Senate but three voted
to keep it shut, shut it down, and to keep
it shut down. So if you can do simple math,
which maybe today in America is hard to do, and
we'll explain. I'll talk about that in a minute or two.
If he just do the simple math, you know you

(08:27):
know who shutdown this is.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, you had to get your sixty and the Republicans
only had fifty three votes, so they had to get
at least seven or eight of those votes from the Democrats,
and they didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, there's two independents. There's two independents that's also needed
to be considered in there. So the Democrats are trying
to cover up for Obamacare. They were told from the
very beginning, this is disastrous. The American people were told

(08:59):
from the beginning that it was full of lies. Remember
remember Joe Wilson at the State of the Union message
said to Obama when Obama said illegals will not be
on Obamacare, Joe Wilson says, you lie. Well, Joe Wilson
was correct, So was everyone that said that Obamacare was

(09:23):
unworkable and it would lead to a disaster. The other
thing we have to be very careful of as far
as these Democrats wanting to keep these illegals here to
add to the electoral the total and also their totals
in House and Senate. If the Democrats ever get back

(09:45):
in office again, they've got some very dangerous plans and
a couple of those plans is to practice Supreme Court.
That's number one. Number Two, they want to give Puerto
Rico in Washington, d C. Statehood because that would mean
four more Democrat senators and up to ten more Democrat

(10:07):
members in the House of Representatives. So that's disastrous. A
man who I admire, whose show we run here on
the aun TV network, Victor Davis Hansen, was said something today,
but it's hard for me to say, but I disagree
with him. He was talking about a not a blanket amnesty.

(10:30):
But these people that came here illegally pay it fine
and then they're allowed to stay. Well, Number one, that
fine would never be paid. Number two, if you give
the Democrat in office, they probably forgive those debts, forgive
that penalty, and probably reimburse the money back anyone who

(10:51):
paid into it. And then they're going to say, well, look,
Ronald Reagan ranted three million amnesty, and now we're we're
granting another five million amnesty. No, George, anybody who's here
illegally must go back, and they must go back right now. Uh.

(11:12):
You mentioned academia, and I look at academia as one
of the two major one of the two major problems
in the country today. What is media. The other is academia,
because academia, especially the colleges and the universities, they're just
so out there, George, They're just so out there to
the left. I pity, I pity any kid going to

(11:36):
college these days, because you know they're going to be indoctrinated.
And George, finally, when you talk about fascism, when you
talk about you like this guy in New York, the
Democrat socialists remember the DDR, Yeah, the the George Democrat Republic,

(11:58):
which actually was East Germany. So when you hear these
leftists like ma'am Danny talk about he's a Democrat socialist,
think about what it was like to live in East Germany.
Think about what it was like to live in East Berlin.

(12:19):
And if it was so wonderful, George, why did thousands
and thousands risk their lives to get out of East Germany,
get out of East Berlin? And when the walk come down,
they come over in the millions. So socialism is that great,
this democrat socialist idea. Tell that to people who lived

(12:43):
in Germany under a Democrat socialist system.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah. Or how about in Cuba they have a socialist
system there and what do you have? You have people
who build boats out of garbage to escape, And why
is it that, for example, nobody is actually trying to
get to that country. Why is it that they don't
have a problem with illegal immigration there? Why because nobody

(13:09):
actually wants to go there? And it's just very interesting
to me to see these problems that exist, because it's
just nutty that, like you said, there's a long history
of you know, like, how do college kids have a
good opinion of socialism? Like, oh, it's kind.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well, where do they get that opinion? George from their professors?
By saying, we have a real problem with academia. We
have a problem with the media telling lies and repeating lies,
and we have a problem with academia these professors that
are pumping this nonsense into the heads of students. George,

(13:45):
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Speaker 1 (17:13):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos. Were
George Landers and Immeric Trader coming to you from the
My Pillar studios and My Story studios of the a
un TV network. Well, George Shear has been cracked downs
in Chicago, in Los Angeles, and San Francisco, Portland, Seattle,

(17:34):
and over the weekend there's been a new target Charlotte,
North Carolina. Can they tell us about it?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
What I read was that a federal agents have arrested
one hundred and thirty or more people in just forty
eight hours during what they call Operation Charlotte's Web. And
I remember that book as a kid, you know, Charlotte's Web,
But I think this is a little different. But anyhow,
oh little yeah. The protests of course, of ap in
North Carolina, where activists are opposing Trump's immigration and again

(18:06):
that shouldn't just be activists. It's Democrats who are opposing
Trump's immigration enforcement. And I just think it's very interesting
because this is about border security, law and order, and
protecting Americans from crime, because it wasn't it North Carolina
where they've had some crime committed against people because stupid
judges have let violent criminals out, Like there was that

(18:28):
woman who was stabbed to death on a train or
a bus or something. So it's time to start enforcing
the law. It's time to make sure we have border security,
and it's time to protect Americans and stuff like that.
And yet these people want to.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
You know, oh, we're outraged.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's kind of like, that's interesting because every other country
and the planet, if you, for example, tried to invade
our neighbor like Mexico, you'd end up going to prison.
They wouldn't just be like, Oh, it's no big deal,
no problem, welcome, and then that's interesting. In Wisconsin, Democrats
are planning a training seminar to help people learn how

(19:06):
to obstruct ICE. Incredible and it's just like wow. So
the left's war against ice continues. And in Wisconsin, as
I said, the Democrats in the State Assembly are promoting
I radical leftist training event.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
It will teach people how to.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Obstruct and interfere with federal law enforcement. So I would
argue that every single state assembly member who's doing this
can be arrested and put in jail because we have
laws that prohibit people.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
George, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's my point. It's a crime.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Like if you and I, for example, let's say some
guy down the street from us rob the bank, and
then we decided to help him hide the fact that
he robbed the bank, and maybe he said, hey, can
I can I put all the cash I got in
your basement to hide it so if they come to
my house they won't get it there. And then also,
can you tell them that I was out mowing my
lawn by the time the bank was robbed. That really

(20:02):
helped me out a lot and we go, sure.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
We'll do that.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Then we would be guilty of essentially helping him rob
a bank, and it would be obstruction of justice for
which we would go to prison if they could find
that out and prove it in the court of law.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
And what about these demonstrators, George, aren't they also guilty
of obstructing justice?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
They are.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I want to see some of those arrested. I want
to see a great, big piticion bus come and the
National Guard just pick these people out of the crowd,
put them on the bus and charge them with obstructing
of justice.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, if all they were doing was standing somewhere, like
in a park in the city saying we support illegal immigration,
that wouldn't be a crime. It's just stupid. They have
bad policy in mind. But what they're doing is trying
to interfere with ice, but either by physically putting themselves
so that Ice can't get through them, and they kind

(20:55):
of create a barrier, which is not free speech. And
if they were just like some guy gets on the
radio in a call in show and says, hey, I'm
for illegal immigration. That's not a crime. That just means
he's signing up and admitting to the public he's an
idiot and he's anti America.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
But it's still free speech. But as soon as you as.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
A crowd, say a couple hundred of you or several
thousand of you, show up trying to interfere with ice
performing their duties and forcing a law, then you're not
engaging in free speech. That is an attempt to interfere.
You know, speech is speech, That's what I call it free.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Speech, Georgia. And it really bothers me that again, we
have the media that seems to be right on right,
in lockstep with these people who are obstructing justice, who
are in lockstep with people who are here illegally. Somebody say,
we've got these these two major problems in America, the

(21:53):
media and academia, and many times you're working together, especially
with these these ill George. I really want to see
Donald Trump come out and make a proclamation. So say
to anyone here that is here illegally, Look, you know
who you are, you know here, you know you have
no real right to be here. You know all these

(22:15):
claims of am this saying all that that was just
a bunch of garbage. You came here to steal from
the American people. You came here to steal from the
American economy. So I give you two months. I give
you two months to register with the government that you
are here illegally, and after that you've got one month

(22:37):
to be out because if you and if you don't
comply with this, and we pick you up and send
you out the first way, you'll have an opportunity in
the future to enter this country legally, either as a visitor,
a guest, to work, or maybe even to become a citizen.

(22:57):
But if after this sixty days that you have to
register and one month after that to get out, if
we pick you up, you permanently lose your right ever
to step foot into the United States again for any reason.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, I think that would make sense. I think they
kind of have that policy out there. That's what they've
tried to, you know, promote, because you see the ads.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It worth but there's no deadline. I think the deadline,
there's no deadline.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's My point
is what you're suggesting is not a radical change. It's
a basically just making it very clear. And of course
when the president speaks, it makes bigger news because the
president absolutely, So if he were to say that, and
you know, like you said, give them two months, because
you've seen the ads with Christy Nomes saying that if

(23:46):
you sign up and we'll pay for your flight home
and so forth, as long as you're not a criminal,
you could come back to America legally in the future.
But if you don't, like you said, you'll never come back.
We'll find you, we'll deport you, and you know, so forth.
So I just I think what you're describing would make
a lot of sense because having a lot of them
self deport We know that probably a million or more

(24:08):
of self deported, but of course many were really.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Do we really? I haven't seen I haven't seen official numbers. Jews. Well,
this is what they this is what they're saying, this
is what's being reported. But you know what, when I
go into my local Walmart, I see just as many
illegals in there as I ever have. Well I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, and you know who they are. Well, we

(24:32):
have ones that does speak English. Yeah, they're the ones
that doesn't speak English.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
We had twenty or thirty millions. So the fact is,
I think a ton of people as soon as Trump
won self deported because but they but they didn't use
the government program, so we don't have an official number
yet because what they did is they just left and said,
oh crap, I got to get out of here. And
that was helpful. But we you know, and you can
kind of track that a little bit because in some
cases there's a lot of flights leaving or in some cases.

(25:00):
But my point is doing it officially is probably help
more helpful because then we can kind of track more.
And so I think your idea makes a lot of sense.
I have another idea for a proclamation. It would guarantee
that Conservatives could win every election in the future, and
that is he could get on and talk about how
he's very pro oxygen and very pro breathing, and the

(25:22):
people with trunk derangement syndrome would go, oh, my gosh,
I'm not for breathing. I hate oxygen, and they'd all
hold their breath until they died. And that'd be the
liberal KuPS that hate our country and hate our constitution.
And then we wouldn't have to worry about it anymore
because they would essentially self deport themselves. I'm joking, of course,
but my point is I think that maybe.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Georgia, you may be joking, but I would be willing
to bet that if Donald Trump come out and made
that proclamation that breathing is good for you, that oxygen
is good for you, there would be some liberals out
there that would that would fight that idea.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
How dare he is he making us up? There's no
science behind that'd like?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
What?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Oh? Can syndrome makes you profoundly stupid?

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Hey, George. Right after this break, we're going to be
playing a couple of best of interviews here in the
Conservative Commandos and Reverend Ben Johnson we'll be joining us
as his senior reporter and editor at the Washington Stand.
Also Roger Aronoff. He's the executive director and editor of
the Citizens Commission on National Security, And Roger's going to

(26:39):
talk about how Chuck Schumer at one time he was
all for keeping the government open, but now he's changed
his tune. Don't go wait. We'll be back with our
guests right after this break.

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Speaker 1 (29:53):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commands Radio
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Mike Phillis Studio, the My Stewart Studio of the aun
TV network. Hey, George, your guest this year. You know
what to do? Take it away.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I always enjoy introducing our guests because we always are
the very best guests, and so it's a real honor
and a real privilege. And I'm excited to introduce Reverend
Ben Johnson. He's a senior reporter and editor at The
Washington Stand and his writings have appeared not just at
the Washington Stand but all over the place, for example,
in The Guardian, which is in the United Kingdom, Human Events,

(30:34):
The Stream, Real Clear Policy, Conservative Review, the Daily Caller.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
He's also been cited.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
His work and things that he's had to say in
his analysis has been cited by National Review, CBS News,
and Fox News. And he was managing editor of Front
Page magazine and the US Bureau chief at Life Site News.
And he is also the author of two books on
tax exempt foundations, as well as Party of Defeat, which

(31:05):
I think is again a very interesting book that I
think he wrote if Our Call with David Horowitz. Before
turning to journalism and editing, he spent more than a
decade doing radio broadcasting and all kinds of news and
talk and those sorts of things. So we're really glad
to have Reverend Ben Johnson with us. So, Reverend Johnson,

(31:26):
welcome back to the Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 9 (31:28):
Always a pleasure to be with you. George.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I wanted to ask you about there's all this discussion
about trying to get things back in order and get
things fixed, and so Donald Trump is fined an executive
order just this past week that directed his cabinet to
begin taking the necessary steps to facilitate closing down the
Department of Education. And for many of us, I'm old

(31:50):
enough to remember when Ronald Reagan talked about doing that,
but he wasn't able to get it done. Not that
he didn't want to, it's just that he didn't have
enough support in the House and the Senate to get
it done at the time. And so Donald Trump is
being obviously more aggressive and more focused on that because
the time has come because back then, Department of Education

(32:11):
was new, and so it hadn't yet wrecked American education
because when it was passed, we were considered the having
the best educational system in the world. And after forty
five years of this insanity, it's slipped and now we're
down in the mid to late twenties and it's like, okay,
so now I think you definitely have the AMMO if

(32:32):
you will factual AMMO. It's not just an idea of
saying I think it's a bad idea. It's like it's
kind of obvious it's a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
It'd be kind of like if someone said, I think
we should feed children arsenic, and we didn't know a
lot about arsenic, but someone told us I think it's
poisonous and toxic, and then he say, oh, what do
you know, Well, after forty five years of feeding children
arsenic and then they die, I think you have the
evidence to say stop feeding kids arsnake. And that's basically
what the Department of Education. So I wanted to ask

(33:00):
it to help us way through this.

Speaker 10 (33:03):
Well, that's a perfect analogy because the federal government far
too long has been feeding children intellectual and spiritual arsenic
There's no question about that. With the educational guidelines, obviously,
we've had, as you said, a brand new department back
in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
So when Reagan talked about it, they said, give it
a chance. But the results are in.

Speaker 10 (33:21):
We've seen the fact that NATE scores have not increased
in any way, shape or form. In fact, the nation's
report card, the NAPE scores as they're known, had to
announce back in June of twenty twenty three that reading
scores for fourth grade children were not materially different than
in nineteen seventy one. And that's after they've done down
the test. So you've seen a massive shift in public perception,

(33:46):
especially once parents stayed home during COVID. They saw what
teachers were teaching, They saw what was being presented as education,
and so you had a content problem as well as
a competency problem, and the two were not unrelated. Instead
of focusing on reading and writing and arithmetic, as the
Lady Phyllis Schlaughey always talked about, and instead they asked,
how do you feel about two plus two is four?
Where they talk about different ESL components, emotional and social learning, DEI,

(34:13):
critical theory. All of that smuggled into the curriculum, and
as a result you have test scores and haven't budged
or have fallen in real terms ever since the formation
of the Department of Education.

Speaker 9 (34:25):
In nineteen eighty.

Speaker 10 (34:26):
Our friend Ronald Reagan did his very best, as you say,
and sometimes conservatives give him a hard time. We know
that he didn't accomplish everything that he campaigned on. No
president ever does. But he set a standard. He said
that I do not want ineffective government funded by the
US government. This is an ineffective agency. It was a
payoff to teachers' unions. The National Education and Association endorsed

(34:48):
Jimmy Carter in nineteen eighty. Nobody endorsed Jimmy Carter in
nineteen eighty. The Liberals didn't let Jimmy Carter. By nineteen
eighty they had had enough, so they voted for Ted
Kennedy in the primaries and John Anderson of the General
They endorsed Jimmy Carter, and so Jimmy Carter unveiled this
new department, which went forward and it's spent a lot
of money. It's reinforced the teachers' unions. It has done

(35:09):
absolutely nothing for our children. It's time that come to
an end. And by the way, I think this is
a big mark against the never Trump people because they
always said he's not a real conservative, he doesn't want
to deal with entitlement reform and other issues which I.

Speaker 9 (35:21):
Think are important.

Speaker 10 (35:22):
But here he is following through keeping a forty five
year old campaign promise that conservatives have sought after for
so long.

Speaker 9 (35:29):
It's a very good point.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Years ago, I served on a public school board and
one of the things I noticed while I was on
that school board was that the federal government wasn't doing
much of fund education. They produced somewhere in the neighborhood
of two to three percent of the funding for the
county schools that I was on the school board for.
Yet they produced about seventy five to ninety percent of

(35:52):
the kind of crazy rules and regulations, So we had
to hire tons of bureaucrats to comply with all the
different rules they were set, but not people in the classroom.
So we were spending a lot of money on education,
but it wasn't in the classroom. It was to have
bureaucrats so that we could correspond with and you know,
deal with the federal bureaucracy. So it's just it was

(36:15):
just like a transaction cost that was ridiculous and stupid.
And it was very interesting because when I was younger,
I think I would have well, I agreed with with
Ron Reagan, but I didn't have the practicality of that
part of it. It didn't really occur to me that
all it was going to be was a bunch of
crazy bureaucracy. And who's ever said my favorite bureaucrat when

(36:37):
I was in school was so and so because they
taught me so much about math and science and history.
The answer is, nobody's ever said that nobody has a
favorite bureaucrat that they can say helped teach them something
that Matt changed their life and helped get them well
educated and prepared to learn more and grow more intellectually.
So I just wanted to ask you kind of what's

(36:59):
your take this idea is what I'm saying about the
Department Education. I think it makes sense or might being
too harsh on them.

Speaker 10 (37:05):
You couldn't be more spot on, George. As usual, that's
not unusual for your commentary. But you are completely correct.
The main thing that the Department of Education is produced
is not outstanding students. It's not even really education, it's
bureaucratic compliance costs. And they've shoveled that off onto local
school districts. As you say, they don't belie even fund
education that much. In your case was two to three percent.

(37:27):
In some places it's a size fourteen or fifteen. I
think the average is about ten percent of federal funding
is ten percent of local schools is funded by the
federal government through the DEDEA, through the DOE rather and
so as a result, they are essentially spending a lot
of their own money in order to keep up with
the regulatory compliance that is necessary. They have to buy

(37:49):
new curricula, which means you have to hire new curriculum advisors.
You have to hire people in order to who can
navigate these very intricate navigational pathways for federal compliance and
federal regulation. And that means that you have to have
people who have education degrees or who have pedagogy degrees
but aren't teaching.

Speaker 9 (38:09):
You hire, as you say, bureaucrats.

Speaker 10 (38:11):
And if you look at what Linda McMahon I think
really put her finger on. She talked about bureaucratic bloat.
That's what's going to be cut when they cut. President
Trump cut half of the Department of Education from about
forty one hundred to about twenty two hundred employees. That's
what got cut, and that's what every single federal school
district has replicated and must end up eventually rectifying is

(38:35):
getting rid of all of the additional layers of administrators
and bureaucrats. My mother was a public school teacher, taught
special needs children special education, and there are a lot
of wonderful frontline teachers who are doing their very best
just to instill the basics in people who may not
be the most responsive. But the majority of the growth
since the formation of the Department of Education in nineteen

(38:56):
seventy nine has been administrative. It's completely useless. That should
be handed to local schools and said they should be told,
with the ninety percent of the money that you are
funding now, you are completely free to teach children however
you wish, in whatever way you wish.

Speaker 9 (39:10):
And by the way, the former Education Secretary Bill.

Speaker 10 (39:13):
Bennett had a good point the other day, we don't
just have to hand it back to schools in the
local or state arena.

Speaker 9 (39:19):
We can hand this back to parents.

Speaker 10 (39:20):
You can hand this money to parents and tell them
you educate the children any way you want, whether it's
through private school, online school, or homeschool.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
That's a very very good point. One of the things
I think is kind of interesting is people like to
act as if Republicans hate the Department of Education because
we hate education or something like that. And yet if
you go back in history, back to nineteen seventy nine,
when Jimmy Carter was president, he had people in his
own cabinet who did not like the idea of the

(39:49):
Apartment of Education, because you did have the point, you
had an apartment called health, Education, Human Services, and so forth.
So it wasn't as if the federal government didn't have
some finger in the education process. But what you did
now was entire bureaucracy completely devoted to it.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
And some of these were pretty liberal people.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
For example, the American Federation of Teachers was against it.
The New York Times, of all things, its editorial board
was against it. And then of course I remember Democratic
Senator Daniel Patrick moynihan, who was from New York and
who was a famous liberal he was against it, And
so I'm trying to figure out why is it that
the press likes to pretend that somehow getting rid of

(40:26):
the Department of Education means your anti education and all
this other stuff, because I'm thinking to myself, So, I
guess that means that Daniel Patrick moynihan, a liberal Democrat,
was against education, and the American Federation of the Teachers,
people who actually teach there, against education too.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I don't think so. I think you're lying to us.
So fill us in on that one.

Speaker 10 (40:45):
Yeah, the idea that brandy Winegardon's predecessors were against education,
I think is untenable, although you can certainly make the
case for herself perhaps over the last few years, but
you're absolutely right is typically that the Department of Education
had internal opposition. Couldn't get more liberal than Pad mooynihan.
He was the leading Senate lion of liberalism along with
Ted Kennedy for a whole generation of people. But he

(41:07):
was pragmatic, unlike so many others. He looked at the
bottom line and said, this is not going to materially
improve things. It's only going to increase costs, and it's
going to give the federal government even more control. Why
is it that the media always say that Conservatives are
opposed to education because we're opposed to the Department of
Education for the same reason that everything else. They take

(41:29):
this line with every other conservative department or every other position.
First of all, because the media is really just a
hermadan at the Democratic Party. They simply repeat the talking
points of what's being presented. Second of all, because they
make that material mistake with some well meeting people do that.

Speaker 9 (41:45):
Frederick bossy A pointed out a long time ago. He
said that people who.

Speaker 10 (41:48):
Believe that Conservatives or others are opposed to public funding
believe that you were opposed to the underlying issue. So
if I'm opposed to the federal funding of childbirth, I'm
against children. That's obviously not the case. So when it
comes to this issue, we've had this material formal concern
for a very long time. This error that is going

(42:09):
on Intellectually, people don't understand how new education funding is.
Until nineteen sixty five, when Lynden Johnson signed the Elementary
and Secondary Education Act, there was essentially no federal funding
of local schools, very very little of colleges. Going back
to the Eisenhower administration. But before that there was very

(42:30):
little formal clear funding. There was always research going on,
but there was very little line item funding of education
until nineteen sixty five. And like so many ideas, it
came out of the great society we've seen. They've crashed
and burned. People don't respond to statist answers. They respond
to local teachers who care for them. No one cares
about the bureaucrats. The bureaucrats don't really care about the kids.

(42:52):
It's a job protection racket. Teachers care about kids. On
with their teachers. That's where we need to invest our
education dollars.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Very very good point, and that's a great place for us.
Take a quick break, so folks don't go away, because
the Conservative commandos with Rick Trader and George Landreth and
our guest Reverend Ben Johnson, will be right back and
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(47:55):
our guests. He's a senior reporter and editor at the
Washington Stand. We're discussing an article that Reverend Johnson wrote, unconstitutional, ineffective, incompetent, unnecessary.
Trump moves to abolish the Department of Education. Reverend Johnson,
thank you for holding through that break. We appreciate your

(48:16):
time and a little bit of inside baseball. This show
is actually videotage on Monday afternoon, and President Trump had
Linda McMahon in the White House today they discussed ridding
the country of the Department of Education. But Reverend Johnson,

(48:37):
there's a couple of groups out there that aren't too happy,
the NEA and the NAACP. They are actually taking President
Trump and his administration the court to stop this. And
it's me, Reverend Johnson. I'm wanted to get your opinion
of this, and it just shows how out of touch
the Democrats are right now. I mean, this is no secret.

(48:59):
President and Trump ran on this. This was one of
the major planks in his platform. Every battleground state voted
for this man. He won the electoral vote, he had
a gains to the House in the Senate. It should
be a message to organizations like the NEA, Teachers Association, ZNAAZP,

(49:24):
anyone else that didn't like it. This is what the
people voted for. Your thoughts.

Speaker 10 (49:30):
I think this is one of the things that says
President and Trump apart from so many other presidents, which
is that he's following through He said I will govern
by a simple model. Promises made, promises keptain. Here's another
one that's been kept. And that's not how Republican presidents,
frankly have governed for at least the last twenty five
years at a minimum. So this when Bob Dole said
he wanted to do abolish the Department of Education, I

(49:51):
don't know that people believed him. And then of course
you had McCain and Romney didn't even give us the rhetoric,
let alone the action if they've gotten into office. So
conservative Republicans have sought after this for decades. As you
say that, the real of him promising to abolish the
Department of Education went viral. Every single swing state supported him.
There was no question what he was going to do
when he got into office. The fact that the NAACP

(50:13):
and the NEA are bringing this lawsuit, it's just another
front in the never ending lawfare against this administration.

Speaker 9 (50:19):
There have been.

Speaker 10 (50:20):
Already dozens of national injunctions, which you're controversial in themselves.
Those are also a relatively recent phenomenon, which I wrote
about with the Washington Stand in a different article, But
they are fairly recent, and they're trying to stop everything
that President Trump does. Ultimately, since the DOE was founded
by a congressional statute, it has to be repealed from

(50:40):
congressional legislation.

Speaker 9 (50:42):
There's an excellent bill.

Speaker 10 (50:43):
I think it's Senate Bill eight ninety nine, if I'm
not wrong, or HR eight ninety nine and maybe eight
ninety nine, I believe it is.

Speaker 9 (50:49):
Thomas Massey is introduced so one buying.

Speaker 10 (50:52):
Bill that simply says the Department of Education shall terminate
on December thirty first, twenty twenty six period.

Speaker 9 (50:58):
That would end the.

Speaker 10 (51:00):
Federal involvement in education, turn it back to the states,
let them set their own curriculum, their own guidelines, make
sure that competence finally replaces feral regulation in the curriculum.
So I hope that Congress will take this up. I
think particularly it's very important to do so within the
next two years, while we're sure that we have a
congressional majority.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Reverend Johnson, how many children has the Department of Education educated?
And how much money, how much money passes through its hands,
and how much of that money is absorbed in just
administration costs? And you know, I learned a lot. I
learned a lot from guests like you. I learned a
lot from my cost like George Landrath. When Jorge said,

(51:42):
when he was a member of a school board, because
of what the Department of Education told them, they may
must do all the additional costs that the school board
had to had to pay out to make the Department

(52:02):
of Education happy. What I'm getting at is this was
the Department of Education was nothing but more than a
money transfer, and a lot of that money got absorbed.

Speaker 10 (52:14):
It's domestic usaid is essentially what we're looking at. It's
always been a money transfer from the federal government to
teachers unions, never ending certification requirements that have increased over
the years, which take away from very talented people could
be teachers but don't have the right check mark next
to them. But you're asking how many people how much money?
Three trillion dollars since nineteen eighty three trillion dollars. That's

(52:37):
one twelfth of our federal deficit. Our national debt is
simply wrapped up in the DOE want out of every
eight dollars because of the national education And again we've
talked about the results. The results have been static, even
after the test has the qualifications. Frankly, the curricula have
gone down, the testing standards have gone down. Even when

(53:00):
you factor all that in, the scores are absolutely unchanged
for most of our entire lifetime. So you're going back
to nineteen seventy one there's a significant cohort of Americans
who weren't alive at that point. They have never seen
an improvement in education under the DOE.

Speaker 9 (53:15):
How much is.

Speaker 10 (53:16):
Absorbed by administration the estimates that I've seen again, remember,
only about one out of every eleven or twelve dollars
comes from the federal government. We're talking let's say, let's
round it up and say ten percent of all these
dollars are coming from the federal government. According to the
figures and the estimates that I've seen, approximately sixty percent
of that goes to administrative costs. So for every federal dollar,

(53:40):
you're getting about four dimes. Out of every federal dollar
that's spent actually getting through to frontline teachers and real
educational concepts. The rest is absorbed by administration. It's a
complete and total waste. It's bureaucratic bloat, and unfortunately, US
taxpayers are paying the front end of it. Financially, American
children are paying the back end of it through an

(54:00):
inferior education.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Reverend Johnson helped me out here. I am led to
believe that when the Department of Education was created in
the Carter administration, America and the school children led the
world that were number one. Now they're like number forty.

Speaker 10 (54:18):
No, you're You're absolutely right. They are very much a
more middling result. We have tests that measure what the
standing of the average American versus other countries around the world.
We've had basically the same basket. People have continually joined
that test, so it's not completely the same, but it's
largely the same group of countries. Over the last several

(54:38):
decades in America, you can just see this precipitous fall,
this very steady, slow slide that has been going on
for decades, the entire time that the Department of Education
supposedly is curing this problem with federal interventions. So the
more that the federal government has involved, the less power
the parent has, the less say that parents have, the

(54:59):
less say the local school and local teachers have. Everyone
should be against this, except usually I always have this
saying when things don't make sense, they make sense. You
just don't understand the reason. There's nothing arounding financial incentive
for them never to cut these programs.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Reverend Johnson, and your article Trump moves to abolish the
Department of Education, you lead it. You lead that title
with for a very interesting where it's unconstitutional, ineffective, incompetent, unnecessary.
Let's talk about that first word, unconstitutional.

Speaker 10 (55:31):
There is absolutely no constitutional authorization for the federal government
to be involved in education of any sort. Article one,
section eight has all of the delegated powers that the
states gave to the federal government, and they reserved all
others under the ninth and tenth Amendments. Under those amendments,
the powers that are reserved to the states are many.
Those that are delegated to the federal government are fuel

(55:54):
according to the founding fathers, and so there shouldn't have
been any concern about the federal government overstepping its bounds.
Problem is that the states have refused to enforce their
own boundaries. Obviously, the federal government has failed to police itself.

Speaker 9 (56:05):
There is.

Speaker 10 (56:06):
Education is not mentioned anywhere in that list. Of course,
so much of what the federal government does is not
mentioned in that list. It's been a slow absorption of
state power of state prerogatives for decades, going back at
least to the New Deal and progressing certainly metastasizing with
the Great Society. So that's where education ended up getting
swept up into the federal government. And at one time

(56:29):
we had a Supreme Court that was willing to stand up,
a judiciary who was willing to stand up for the
supreme law of the land, which is the US Constitution. Unfortunately,
after the nineteen thirty six election, fter Ar threatened to
pack the court, and you had one justice who changed
his position. By the way, his name was Justice Roberts.
So I think it's very fitting, considering the current state
of jurisprudence, appointed as a constitutional conservative, ended up changing

(56:53):
his views and signing off on all the New Deal legislation.
The history books called the switch in time that saves nine. Ultimately,
instead of packing the court, he simply went along and
signed off on everything, and from that day forward it
was open season on the US Constitution. Anything that you
could pass, it didn't necessarily have to be justified by
the US Constitution. The Department of Education certainly wasn't and

(57:16):
we've dealt with those results ever since. Again, we paid
a cost, but the greatest cost is what's born by
US students who didn't get the kind of education that
people did in nineteen thirty six.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Reverend Johnson, Reverend Ben Johnson, we appreciate you, but before
you leave, tell us a little bit about The Washington Stand,
which you are a senior reporter and editor of.

Speaker 10 (57:37):
Sure, The Washington Stand is a publication of the Family
Research Council. You can find us at Washingtonstand dot com.
Of course, many people are familiar with Tony Perkins. His
program runs on these television stations and radio stations, so
we're always good to always thrill that we have that partnership,
and so you can read much of what happens and

(57:58):
takes place. We have either news or commentary about it
every day Washington Stand dot com.

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Also you can follow me on.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Absolutely, I always have to do it because we always
have the very best guests, and we've got Roger Aronoff
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(01:02:23):
produced and directed six documentaries, and he also has produced
a weekly series on PBS called think Tank with Ben Wattenberg.
So he deals with these important issues all the time,
and we're really glad to have him be a part
of this discussion today because heaven knows, there's a lot
of important things happening in the world. So Roger, welcome

(01:02:44):
back to the Conservative Commando is very glad to have you.

Speaker 15 (01:02:47):
Thank you so much, George, great to be with you,
and Rick.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
As always, I wanted to ask you about this question
of it's just kind of an odd thing because normally speaking,
the left is fair loyal to their friends and allies,
and yet recently what we've seen is a real kind
of vicious attack on the sentimentority leader Chuck Schumer, and
what was weird is that he basically saved the Democratic

(01:03:13):
Party from looking like morons and the people in their
party who are truly stupid, like AOC, truly low IQ.
Individuals have been acting like he's the big problem in
America today and somehow, oh my gosh, the Democratic Party
has got this problem that people like Chuck Schumer. And
I'm thinking to myself, I'm not a big fan of
Chuck Schumer, so I'm not trying to argue in his behalf.

(01:03:33):
But this decision was not designed necessarily to promote Donald
Trump's agenda. It was basically just to make sure that
he and the Democrats didn't get blamed for shutting down
the government, which would not have necessarily been helpful to them.
So I want to ask you to help us kind
of wade through all this.

Speaker 16 (01:03:50):
Yeah, and so I'm happy too, and thank you. And yeah,
though you're referring to my new column up on our
website ccnational Security dot or work. I encourage everyone to
go to check it out. We have some great people there.
But to answer your question, yes, Schumer faced a dilemma
and the first day he came up and he said, no,

(01:04:13):
we're not going to provide the eight votes necessary to
reach sixty in the Senate to pass this continuing Resolution
that the House just passed. We are going to let
the government shut down and it'll be on the Republicans
for doing it, for not negotiating with us. And then
the next day, after an apparent meeting where he was

(01:04:34):
yelled at, based on reports by New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand,
he caved and he said, Okay, we're going to go
ahead and we don't want to shut the government down.

Speaker 15 (01:04:46):
And as I point out, there are different theories.

Speaker 16 (01:04:49):
One is to say that he thought that the Democrats
would be blamed for it. My response to that is
Democrats are never blamed for it.

Speaker 15 (01:05:01):
New York Times.

Speaker 16 (01:05:01):
They will always find a way to blame the Republicans
and Trump. So I think that was an unfounded reason
if that was his real reason. But the problem is
that Trump derangement syndrome is so widespread and is so
infected the media and the Democratic Party that to even

(01:05:22):
take a position that appears to be giving Trump his way,
letting him have his way, is unacceptable.

Speaker 15 (01:05:29):
So not just the.

Speaker 16 (01:05:31):
AOC and Bernie Sanders and came out and condemned him
for doing this. But again, as I point out, they
in the House had a very easy vote because their
vote they could vote against it, and there was no
chance that their vote was going to make a difference.

Speaker 15 (01:05:47):
But the Schumer was.

Speaker 16 (01:05:50):
Faced with we either have to come up with eight
votes to help the Republicans get this through and avoid
shutting the government down, or you know, working be blamed,
or you know, we need to show that we can
work with them in some way. But he was just
so hammered in the media and all these calls now
for him to step down as the leader of the party.

Speaker 15 (01:06:13):
It just shows where they are. They're so divided.

Speaker 16 (01:06:17):
And I point to a Paul that shows how how
low their approval writings have fallen by over thirty points,
almost forty points, and from a year ago. That's Democrats
approving the Democratic Party. There's so much antipathy there, and
so they're looking at it as a situation that do

(01:06:40):
we want to move to the left, you know with
AOC and Bernie, do we want to show that we're
more moderate in other words like Gavin Newsom, you know,
And he started a podcast and in his first interview,
which was with Charlie Kirk, he said, yes, this issue
of men and women's sports is an issue of fairness.

Speaker 15 (01:07:00):
Need to be more sensitive to that.

Speaker 16 (01:07:04):
But the point is is by doing that again he
got hammered, and he obviously has presidential aspirations, so they're
not sure which way to turn and what to do,
and Trump is just playing this masterfully, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Yeah, I think you're right about that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
It's kind of a weird thing that I see, Like
you point out that the Democratic Party's popularity has dropped dramatically,
and I'm trying to figure out is it one or.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Two issues or dozens of issues?

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
And I have a feeling, at least my theory is
it might need lots of issues. An example would be
I would argue border security, the fact that the Democrats
for four years defended and protected and made sure that
literally millions of people were pouring across our border every
quarter and maybe in some cases every month, and Americans

(01:07:54):
are ring, wait a minute, this is crazy. Look at
the crime in my neighborhood, Look at all the problems
have created, all those other things. They're saying, this is stupid,
and or maybe, like you said, it's this whole concept
of everything from the not being sure what a man
is or a woman is or you know that kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Just like, really, that's not that complicated.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
You don't have to have a degree in biology to
be able to tell a woman from a man, a
man from a woman, but other things as well. So
I just wanted to ask you, do you think there's,
if you will, a wide variety of issues that the
Democrats have just gone far, far too left on and
that Americans are starting to go whoa, whoa, that's too much.

Speaker 16 (01:08:33):
And yes, and Trump in these first two months in
office to show them what done. In other words, they
after that bill that James Langford had endorsed and pushed,
which would have allowed five thousand a day to keep
coming in. You know, when I asked, Biden said, this
is all we can do without Congress joining in and

(01:08:55):
coming up with some kind of bipartisan solution. And yet
Trump in and within the first thirty days he shuts
the border down almost completely, with mainly by reversing the
executive orders that Biden had put in place when he
came in.

Speaker 15 (01:09:10):
So that's one.

Speaker 16 (01:09:12):
Then you have the issue of men in women's sports,
and you just see, like the main governor, she first
said we'll see you in.

Speaker 15 (01:09:20):
Court, and then they buckle.

Speaker 16 (01:09:22):
And you know, these issues, they seem such common sense
issues that it's so obvious that.

Speaker 15 (01:09:31):
Men shouldn't be competing in women's sports.

Speaker 16 (01:09:33):
So then it becomes the definition of what do you
mean men, you mean trans women?

Speaker 15 (01:09:37):
And so these things that like the.

Speaker 16 (01:09:41):
Border, that issue, and then you know, you look at
what's happening with Russia, Ukraine and in the Middle East,
and all of a sudden, after three years of this
war and never even reaching out to Russia to try
to maybe see, is there some basis to have a
cease fire and then a solution to this war. So

(01:10:02):
they've stepped into doing all these things that seemed quite
obvious now. But yet the people are just so they
can't accept anything that Trump does it's possibly being good,
a good thing, or for the right reason. So they're
stuck in that dilemma. That's the dilemma that are trying

(01:10:24):
to capture in this article.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
No, I think your articles are very good and I
would definitely recommend that our viewers and listeners look it
up because lots of really good points. And one of
the points you I think rays that was very interesting
to me was there's polling out right now about who
among the various Democratic leaders are leading, if you will,
as an early leader in the polls to be the

(01:10:48):
twenty twenty eight presidential candidate, And it kind of surprised
me that Kamala Harris apparently is leading. And I'm thinking, myself,
she just lost and she was a joke of a candidate.
I'm thinking to myself, I think I could have not
that it would have been constitutionally acceptable, because you can't
be an eighteen year old and run for president. But
I could have gone to a local high school and
found an eighteen year old and with a months or

(01:11:10):
two of training, gotten them to where they could have
performed better on the campaign trail and on debates and
looked more like a serious candidate than she did. And
that's how bad a candidate she was. And it wasn't
just she had a bad day here or there. She's
been in office for a long time and consistently been
a complete idiot and constantly saying stupid things and speaking

(01:11:32):
in word salads.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
And so I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
What is going on that they're not looking for someone else?
Is there bench that week that she's the best person
they've got, Because I'm thinking to myself, Wow, that means.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
That they're in deep trouble.

Speaker 15 (01:11:47):
Well they are.

Speaker 16 (01:11:48):
They have again that that pull that you're referring to,
shows her leading the pack with thirty six percent in
second place, Deep Bootage Inage in second place at ten percent,
and below that AOC and a number of others, you know,
Elizabeth Warren. They throw in Bernie I guess he's even
still considered somebody. But the point is is, yes, their

(01:12:13):
benches that week, and I think Gavin Newsom was the
one who presumed to be the candidate. But you know,
with the situations going on in California, I mean, they're
just not sure which way to turn. Do they go
further left? Do they try to go more Trumpian?

Speaker 15 (01:12:32):
And he's not really right wing, you know, I mean
his policies.

Speaker 16 (01:12:35):
Are they're not taken from the standard conservative playbook, you know,
things like tariffs and free trade and on a number
of issues. But they hate him so much that they
branded as you know, right wing fascist, nazi, you know,
the way they try to label everything that he does,

(01:12:59):
so well, you have that issue with him.

Speaker 15 (01:13:02):
So yeah, they are.

Speaker 16 (01:13:04):
And if they just start from debates and primaries, I
don't think Kamala is going to last. I mean, she
could never sit down in a real interview where they
really challenge her views. And ask her these kind of questions.
She will never show up as being someone well informed

(01:13:24):
able to.

Speaker 15 (01:13:25):
Deal with these issues.

Speaker 16 (01:13:26):
And then the contrast is Trump will sit there for
whether it's three hours with Joe Rogan or these where
he has all the press in while he's signing executive orders,
taking questions for an hour and a half, and he
lets all of his people go out there, Pam Bondi
and Musk and all of them can just take questions

(01:13:47):
from the press because they have nothing to hide, you know.

Speaker 15 (01:13:50):
Which is kind of what was going on before.

Speaker 16 (01:13:52):
They couldn't really reveal their true positions to the media,
so they stayed away from them, you know what Biden
was in office and kamalas So that's such a become
an obvious contrast between the two parties today is the
complete transparency of Trump, whether you like him or not

(01:14:13):
or the way he puts things. He's out there and
he'll take questions and it's not just from Fox News
or Real America's Voice. He'll take him from anybody and everybody,
and he does and.

Speaker 15 (01:14:26):
So you get and you get to see his thinking
in real time. It's just right there for you.

Speaker 16 (01:14:31):
And so that's the choice what we're faced with today.
I mean, he is he has shown such transparency and
and I think most people are happy with his issues
and the way he fights back against issues like men
and women's sports, and you know, the various other issues,

(01:14:53):
the energy issue, and how we're trying to you know,
taxation and regulation, all these things, and then of course
digging into with DOGE and all the fraud and you know,
the Stacy Abrams two billion dollars project for MGOS that

(01:15:14):
you're finding. Just today in their cabinet meeting, they went
through a whole list of these new contracts that they've
found with MGOS and others that are just obvious fraud
and things that are so ridiculous that we would ever.

Speaker 15 (01:15:30):
Give grants for for millions.

Speaker 16 (01:15:32):
Of dollars and hundreds of thousands of dollars to look into,
you know, various issues to do with transgender and DEI
and all that. So it's quite an amazing time. And
I just came back from Seapack and it was quite
a celebration of this whole change in what our government

(01:15:54):
has become.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Indeed, that's a very good point, and that's a great
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And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
Show with George Landreth and you're shrewdly Rick Trader coming
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(01:19:57):
our guest this segment. He's the executive director of this
Citizens Committee on Nationals or the Citizens Commission on National Security.
He also co founded the Citizens Committee on Benghazi. Hey, Roger,
thank you for holding through that break. We appreciate your
time and appreciate you being with us. Roger, I just

(01:20:20):
think that what we're seeing now in history is absolutely astonishing.
Everything that's transpired over the last four years. I mean,
here you've got You've got all the investigations, indictments, impeachments, trials, mugshots,

(01:20:43):
Donald Trump rallying to win every battleground state, increasing gains
in the Senate. And now what we're seeing during the
first two months of his administration, I've never I've never
seen anything like it, have you, Roger.

Speaker 16 (01:21:01):
No, It's it's amazing because they have thrown everything at him,
starting in his first administration, from the Russia Gate oaks
to all of the two impeachments, and then since he's
been out of office since he announced again in twenty
twenty two he was running. Then they started up just

(01:21:24):
unprecedented law fair against him in every one of those cases,
and I've linked.

Speaker 15 (01:21:29):
To them because I've written about him in the past.

Speaker 16 (01:21:31):
How each one was really orchestrated by the White House?

Speaker 15 (01:21:35):
I'm talking about the John.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Did ask you about that for it? Was it orchestrated
by the White House? I e. Joe o'biden, or was
it instigated by his autopen crew. I'm serious, Roger. You
know what we're hearing now about the auto pen And
we've seen evidence how the signatures on somebody had these

(01:22:00):
executive orders coming from Joe o'biden match exactly to each other,
exactly to each other. Something was who knows if Joe
o'biden knew those executive actions were quote unquote signed by
him and put in law, or it was his autopen gang.

(01:22:20):
And who's to say his autopen gang wasn't responsible for
a lot of the things we're talking about.

Speaker 15 (01:22:28):
Well, I think very likely.

Speaker 16 (01:22:30):
So, I mean, I think that's the whole point of Biden,
is that they pretended that this guy was reading national
security briefings every day and making big decisions. But every
time you'd see him up in front of an audience,
he obviously couldn't put together two sentences and he really
didn't know what was going on, and so you had

(01:22:53):
a lot of examples of that that he didn't.

Speaker 15 (01:22:56):
Even know what orders had been signed. I mean, we
been hearing those sort of things.

Speaker 16 (01:23:01):
But yeah, but then the point is, like Fanny willis
the Rico case out of Georgia. I mean the guy
she Nathan Wade, who she had assigned to that case,
spent two full days in the White House before they
really came out with this old Rico case.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Do you think he spent two full days with Joe o'biden.
He spent that time with somebody. I mean, Joe had
to get his nap in. Maybe he sold him for
five or ten minutes. But again you gotta ask the
question how much of this was Joe and how much
of this was his autopen crew.

Speaker 16 (01:23:39):
Well, it was his autopen crew, I mean, and whether
we're talking the Obamas, whether we're talking sorrows, I mean,
the people who are behind the throne there doing all
this stuff. Was Yeah, I mean, the decision was made
we're going after Trump and with Letitia James, with the

(01:24:01):
Alvin Bragg, judge, Jan mershawan Jack Smith have clear ties
back to the White House. So again I'm not saying
Biden himself conceived and orchestrated all this, but it was
done in his name, I mean. And early on there
was an article that I point to from the New

(01:24:22):
York Times where he was upset with Merrick Garland because
he wanted him to be more like a prosecutor and
go after Trump. And he made that clear. So and
again that was reported by the New York Times, so
you can't doubt it. But all these cases were Again

(01:24:43):
you look at the classified documents case mar Lago and
then compare that it was in a secure place. He
had been president, he had the rights to keep most of,
if not all, those documents, compared to Joe Biden, who
had been having classified documents in seven different locations, including

(01:25:04):
the garage in his Delaware home where he wasn't even.

Speaker 15 (01:25:07):
Staying there but Hunter was. And you know, you have
so many of those kind of thing.

Speaker 16 (01:25:13):
But they said, now he's a sympathetic old man who
probably didn't know what he was doing. And you know,
the Robert hurb defense of Biden why they didn't prosecute
him for that. And then the Letitia James Casey wanted,
they tried to find him half a billion dollars. And

(01:25:34):
this was all over a case where they said that
he gave false evaluations to get favorable loan and insurance rates.
And you know, the people who they brought to testify,
like deutsche Bach said no, you know, we don't take
what he says as being the absolute truth about the

(01:25:56):
value of the land. We do our own checking and
we're perfectly happy and we got all our money.

Speaker 15 (01:26:02):
And so no one was defrauded. No one claimed to
be defrauded.

Speaker 16 (01:26:06):
But they came up with this case and they confined
jury's in New York and in some cases just judges
making these calls. So yeah, on and on they went
with these and again the Rico case in Georgia was
over this phone call where he was with Raffensberger and

(01:26:28):
basically he said, find me eleven thousand votes, you know,
but the full context of it is there were hundreds
of thousands of votes that were suspect in Georgia that
you know, just saying that's all I needed, you know,
to have He didn't go out and manufacture votes. I mean,
that's what they did in Pennsylvania, for instance, to win

(01:26:51):
Pennsylvania in that twenty twenty election.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Right, Hey, Roger, I know you've got another appointment you've
got to get to. We could keep another eye we're
on this subject. But Roger Aronoff, Executive director, editor of
the Citizens Commission on National Security. Roger, we want to
thank you so much for joining us here, but before
you go, please tell our listeners and viewers how they
could keep track of you and read the things you write.

Speaker 15 (01:27:17):
Thank you. Go to CC national Security dot org.

Speaker 16 (01:27:22):
That's CC for Citizens Commission Ccnationalsecurity dot org. And among
our members are Alan West you mentioned earlier. We have
Claire Lopez, former CIA officer. We have General Saint Tom
McInerney and Paul Valley. Pete Hookster, a former chairman of

(01:27:43):
the House Intelligence Committee who's now taken leave to the
Ambassador to Canada. So we have some great people. We
have some great guest columns. We're not we don't publish
every day, but we try to keep go, keep up
with everything we think. We have great articles and interviews
up there, and we you know, we work behind the scenes.

(01:28:07):
We do a lot of things and I actually have
some projects that we could do if we had more money.

Speaker 15 (01:28:13):
So I know we all feel that way, so indeed
we did.

Speaker 16 (01:28:17):
I encourage your viewers to contact me through the website
and I'd love to be in touch with you all.
And so again Ccnationalsecurity dot Org.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Again, Roger, we want to thank you so much for
joining us. Take care and God bless thank you both.

Speaker 16 (01:28:36):
You guys are great. You do great work and I
appreciate you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
And welcome back. Welcome back to your Conservative Commandos with
George Landreth and I'm Rick Trader, come a to you
from the My Pillar Studios, the My Stuart Studios of
the U n TV network. I want to thank the
Reverend Ben Johnson and also our good friend Roger Aronoff
for joining us and Georgia. Who else is on your

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two minute stingy screen?

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Well, I was just I saw an interesting news story
that George Soros has been funding a left wing group
from the UK to bankrolling them so that they could
work to censor conservative news websites and social media companies,
and including a plot to kill Twitter by pressuring advertisers

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and investors to boycott the company. So it's very interesting
and yet a lot of the money. A lot of
people think, oh, well, he's a philanthropist, and the answer
is no, he's not. He got money through USAID millions
of dollars and then he reinvested that in leftist causes.
In other words, he takes your and my tax dollars
and then uses it to destroy America. George Soros is

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an evil human being. My view would be is he
should be banned from America, and if he comes to America,
we should imprison him for fraud and for to destroy
our country and to take away people's constitutional rights and
so forth. And this is an example where he take
he steals your money and my money, and the Democrats

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have cooperated with him, meaning that he didn't steal it
in the sense that they didn't know about it. They
knew about it. They gave it to him, and they
gladly gave it to him, but he's stealing our money
from us with the aid and accomplishment. Example would be
if you robbed a bank, but inside the bank there

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were several tellers who worked with you to help you
rob the bank. You couldn't say, well, see, I had
their permission. The tellers were helping me, So it's not bad.
It's like, no, that's not how it works. That just
means that they are helping. And so the Democrats who
helped give him money to do unconstitutional, illegal things are

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also guilty of robbing taxpayers. It's just frustrating to me.
At some point, we've got to figure out how to
stop this, and of course Donald Trump's been working to
stop it through doges and other things, with the help
of Elon Musk. And yet the Democrats act as if
saving tax dollars and not giving hundreds of millions of

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dollars to idiots like George Soros, because if he were
a real philanthropist, he has billions of dollars, he could
just give his own money. But instead he funds not
just that, but he funds, for example, violence in America.
He funds riots and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
Why isn't this guy Ben investigated, George, Why you think
he has where.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Not already has? I think he will be.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
I think that the Congress is probably going to at
this point because the evidence is mounted, and so it's
no longer kind of a conspiracy theory. There's actually strong
evidence of it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
He needs to be brought to justice. Hey, George, I'm
going to thank you for sitting in today as my
co host. But before you go, tell us about your book.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
Oh sure, got this book let Freedom Ring Again? And
of course the subtitle here is can self evident Truths
save America from further decline? And of course I get
the idea of self evident truths from Thomas Jefferson, who
said that we were all endowed by our creator, and

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among these are life liber in pursuit of happiness. But
he also referred to self evident truths in the Declaration
of Independence, and so I feel like those are very
important because our nation is built upon that foundation. And
I would argue that's what built America into a great
society and made us And we were thirteen insignificant colonies

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in seventeen seventy six, and even after we won the
Revolutionary War, we were still then thirteen relatively insignificant states,
and we had massive debt because of the war, so
we really weren't in a position to become a world power.
And yet we became a world power fairly rapidly, and
all of a sudden, before most people even realized it,

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we became the world's economic and military superpower. Took the
world a while to recognize that, and they began to
recognize that, say, during World War one and two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
With the fact is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
We were probably the world superpower in this eighteen seventies,
shortly after the Civil War. And it's just interesting to
me that people act like, oh, we need to get
away from the Constitution because it's it's old fashioned. It's like, actually,
that's what made us a successful, great nation. And interestingly,
the further we've stepped away from it, the more trouble

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we've had, the more our nation has begun to decline.
And you look at people like Barack Obama, who had
no interest in the Constitution whatsoever, and Joe Biden, and
what has happened. Our nation has done a lot of backsliding.
So going back to what helped us work, what helped
our nation function, and there was a time when that

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was universal there was a time you could be a
democrat and you were very pro constitution, very profounding fathers.
You know, that didn't used to be what divided us,
but now it is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Well. Thank God our founding fathers, inner infinite wisdom made
it so it was not easy to change or constitution. Hey,
George again, I want to thank you for a sitting again.
By the way, give out your website where people can
get the book.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Oh sure, well you can get it on Amazon. You
can search for let Freedoming again and you can then
type in Landreth L A N D R I T
H and that'll bring it up. Or you can go
to f F dot org and you'll see a picture
of the book at the very top of the page.
If you recognize that, you'll see it at be the
top of the page, and you click on that link.
It will then give you information about the book, as

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well as links to basically most of the places you
can buy books, including Amazon and Barnes and Noble and
many others you know, Kindle And all.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Right, George again, thank you for sitting in today. But
for right now we are out of tide. That means
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