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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm your host.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Gonaret, been a lot.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
And like I said, he gonna be talking about Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hm, well is he a good president? Is it bad? President?
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
Four three two one.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
All five? President? I mean, don't want to hurt the man? Yeah,

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I know, do We got balancing in the ars. So
Donald Trump, he stopped snack programs. He he shut down

(01:54):
the government, and he just making things very difficult for Americans,
I mean really difficult. But this is my continue serious

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about this man and everything else. But people, I don't
know how to describe Donald Trump. I mean, we had
some verse presidents before I was born, before J J. J.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
S K.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
We had some bad presidents. I think Teddy Rutles Bell
and the ninth the beneon of the Buffalo soldiers was
got there, got into a mountain first. But Teddy rose

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Abell some one of these presidents. He took the credit
from the black buff soldiers. Very incident, right, very incident story.
You can catch it on my YouTube podcasts. Come in,

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come in soon, okay, but r very interesting story. And
that just told me how bad that president was. Cause
the Buffalottle soldiers, they was all Black Union in the military.

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And I watched the show when the Buffalo was shoulder
Buffalo soldiers. He's a doctor. The memory on him, I
think it's on Amazon, so any Republicans, RedState people, and
I do see that. Yeah, it's a black history on

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our black soldiers called the buff of those soldiers, the
tenth in the three or in the Knife Cavalry. Now,
I think the Calvary is the Horst Division and the
Tenth is the Entail Division. I'll go back and check

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it out again, but I think I got it right
in the Injebury Division something like that, but very instrumstion
in Doctor Merrany on black soldiers in the early days
of the military. Well, they didn't get no credit to

(05:03):
what they did. And these people, they these men, I mean,
all of this history is now.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Being revoked.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right right here in the twentieth century, twenty first story
and all of the things that white people did to us.
And don't you know, I told you it's a white
black guy. I keep forgetting his name. He invented the

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ampling before the crisis, brothers did.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
And.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Boy he mended that's right, he offended it before the
white The writer brothers, the right brothers did. And his name.
I can't think about his name. I saw it on
YouTube again, and only only I can get his name right.

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Only I can get his name right. And I don't
know why I got echo echo in my thing, but anyway,
I hope everybody can hear me. So I turned it

(06:47):
up a little, so y'all can hear just just so
I can hear just one one thing. This It was

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echo in my ear. Still a little acting old now,
but yeah, back to the Buffalo soldiers. Looked 'em, look
'em up because we we can't boo to get our
black history people. And I see just a lot of

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stuff that I looked up up, looked up, and I
I found 'em on. I watched a lot of new too,
watch a lot of YouTube, and I just look on
look it up, you know, and it'll be telling me
a lot. It comes on my Facebook chain of Facebook

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page too, a lot about black history. So I'm gonna
give you a pre drive off some of this stuff
that I hear.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
The mystery of Area fifty one is finally exposed. This
theory is quite scary, so hold on tight. Area fifty
one is a place where the gun interacts and experiments
with aliens. It's considered the most secretive location on Earth.
Rumor suggests that the us GUP communicates with aliens for
human exchanges in scientific experiments. By the way, to make

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sure that the us GUP isn't tracking your phone, click share,
then scroll all the way over and select more. If
there is an unknown app before your contacts, you should
remove it. When UFOs crash on Earth, they undergo various
scientific experiments by the USA. However, the alien civilizations strongly.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Dislikes this idea.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
The USC proposed providing aliens with people every year to
establish a deal. Both sides agreed, and that's why numerous
Americans who vanish each year find themselves in Area fifty one,
where they are sent to other.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Planets or experiments.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
That sound like my book I told you. They sell Brussia, China,
North Korea, United Kingdom, and United States or involved in this.
So go to Ambazon and Boss and Noble and buy

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my book Data Blood. It tells what you just heard
about Area fifty one. People wake up in Area fifty
te one and then be sent to alien planets for
food off of slavery, and then the aliens get the
government's technology. That's the book that I wrote. You know,

(10:20):
I told you I get my ideas from this kind
of stuff. You heard it from another person, but mine
is science fiction. This one was telling you all the
government ready due to the stuff. There's no proof of nothing,
but people do get disappear in the woman's out in it.

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That's it. And then Alaxa Elasa the triangle Lassa Triangle.
People disappear there and it's an alien base there and
this is where they take people too as well. So

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m I mean, that's that's really cool. Many I told you.
But that's some more for you. This one of the
mystery is finally exposed. This theory is yeah, it'll still

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one more. It'll do dark history. This is the.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
True story blind in America, and it was truly terrifying.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
In nineteen forty three, before the war ended, the US
military launched a classified experiment known only as Project Sentinel.
Its goal was simple, create a soldier who never tired,
never disobeyed, and never died. The first volunteer was Elias Turner,
a young recruit chosen for his perfect health and his
willingness to serve as long as his country needed him.
At first, the serum looked like a miracle. Elias grew stronger, faster,

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and unnaturally resilient. Bullet wound sealed, burns vanished, broken bones
popped back into place. Scientists celebrated. They believed they had
created the perfect soldier.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
They were wrong.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
After two weeks, Elias stopped sleeping entirely. He stood for hours,
staring at blank walls, whispering names no one recognized. He
began answering questions before they were asked. He checked behind
doors every few minutes, certain someone was there.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
He wasn't just enhanced. He was becoming paranoid. And then
the real horror began.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Weapons went missing from storage, guards vanished from their posts.
Security laws should at lies walking the halls at night
and saluting empty rooms as if receiving new orders.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
One morning, the.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Scientists found Elias kneeling in the corner of his cell,
smiling at the wall. The voices won't stop, he said,
They keep giving orders even when no one's here. That
was the day Project Sentinel collapsed. Elias was sedated, shackled,
and transported to a classified underground facility designed to contain
irregular soldiers.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Failed prototypes. The public would never learn about it.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
This was the true story behind Captain America.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
So we don't know how true dead is the true
story behind Campain America, but we do know scientists and
the government did the experiments on people back in the thirties,
forties or fifties. But that's kind of fat bitch, you know.

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So take that story and runs whey one or not.
And he's not talking about the fantasy Captain America. No,
he ain't talking about the Marvel series Captain America. You
talking about a government experiment project that they took young

(14:23):
men the experiments on to make a purpose soldier. That's
what he talking about. It was not the Captain America
from Marvin Commons or on Destiny Captain America. Okay, So
don't get it furious. This is true. The government used

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to do that and they might be still doing it
because people disappear every day they disappear. They be I
believe they be so alleyens specially species. And it's that
area of fifty one, you know. And Raven's Mountain, Rocky

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Rent Ravens Mountain and Colorado Sharman Shart of rat and Coldorado,
Colorado called up rattle Rodd Okay, I can get the
I can get the state name right, Hey, Colorado. People

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don't don't laugh at it anyway, Charlotte Mountains in Colorado.
And that's it's more. It's a lot more secret basis
all around the world, even booting in the United States.

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It's teaming with China, in North Korea and the ninety Kingdom.
All the other stuff is on top of the news,
the main street news, let's get you your attention, while
the underground news they do the the underground news that

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you don't hear about, you know, like the underground railroad,
like the underground rap singing group, underground rap and the
rap music that you know, and the underground rap music.

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Something like the dark web you got, the regular web
you got, the dark lab and the dark lab you
don't go to. That's you want your idea and all
that story, you know. That's why I got life Flock
Life Flock protect you your id's credit cards, address, mother's

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maiden name, everything. I got it. I got it. Everybody
should get this. I felt my Gmail on a dark web,
and I haven't credit cards problems right now and Concord

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Credit and they keep changing my credit card number. Now
I think it's the bank doing this, but I don't know.
But on my credit cards is on life flock. It's
locked sealed. Anybody is get stolen anything, they'll send me

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a measuage and I would say, yes, I know if
I made a charge, you know, So go to the lifeblock,
my people, because it's a lot of evil, bad people
in the world. But we gonna get it. We're gonna

(18:18):
get to Donald Trump. Okay, We're gonna get to the
Donald Trump days. And once we get out this dark storm,
if we have to ride it for four years, we
gonna make it. Because Jesus says we are gay those
who pray, those who believe in Jesus. You know, it

(18:43):
says in one of my manors that I get every
morning that God put Donald Trump there on purpose. He
put that he put on there on purpose to teach
the Republicans and the white pressure of this people. Unlessen, Yep,

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he's there on purpose, and he'll be there long as
God n I'm there. Okay, that's why we can't get
rid of him, because he was there and pointed by
the Lord. And you will see all this on on

(19:27):
YouTube once I get it it up. Okay, But hey, people.
All I can tell you is just pray, you know, pray,
just pray, you know, and we'll get through this. And

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it just so much, so much. Okay, let's see what's
going on in the world on YouTube. Okay, So I'm
going to my YouTube page and I'm going to see
what's going on and then YouTube dn world. H all right,

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give me a minute and I'll get this up. So
I just wanna see and trying to kill a little
time and everything. Give y'all some things. Okay.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
This all.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Eight re fourth that was released on the fourth of November.
It pretty much confirmed the fact that there wasn't going
to be a fourth Kelvin film, or at least day
film featuring Chris Pine, es Acriquindo and Zoe Saldana made
by Paramount.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
This is in the wake of.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
All all the changes that new CEO David Elson has
been making in his brief time at Paramount, the Sky
Dance Corporation, paramt as.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Guy Dance Corporation, the merger basically Paramount as Guy Dance.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
You know the story at this stage.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
Well, the big story today is that Deadline has reported
that Jonathan Goldson and John Francis Daily have been hired by.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Paramount to write and direct a new Star Trek film.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
This my very first Rea actually straight away not a
surprise that there's a startup film on the way.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm really not surprised by that.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Paramount have made quite a bit of noise about upping
their theatrical output now over the next few years, so
news of the Star Trek film completely inevitable in my opinion,
when we heard that Star Trek four book, I'm gonna say, Kelvin,
Startrek four wasn't happening to me. It was a question
of right, what would it be instead? Not if we
will get one. There is one little thing now, Obviously

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you're gonna have to wait for official sources and for
you know, proper press releases in that respect, but it
seems as though their take is going to be unconnected
to any existing Star Trek film or television series. You
may commence lighting your pitchforks and pires lighting your pitchforks.

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So I'm feeling what mixed about this because, you know,
before something else, I want to say that these guys,
they have.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
A pretty good track record.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
They wrote Spider Man Homecoming, which I really enjoyed, and
they also directed the recent Dungeons and Dragons Honor among
the Thieves, which I had a great time with in
the cinema.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I've watched again since it's actually film.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I really really enjoyed, also featuring Chris Pine.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
So I like that kind of humor. I like that
kind of style. I'll say I quite enjoy that.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
The idea of that kind of style being included in Star.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Trek no worries as far as I desert.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm on board of that, and we know Star Trek
can do humor very very well. Look at lower decks,
look at I mean, look at something any really look
at some of the stronger episode of Strange New Worlds.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Now, I don't want to dance around it.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
It's the fact that it's seemingly not connected to any.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Other film or series.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
The fact that it's not connected to any other film.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Worries me less.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
You know, we know at the steps that there's not
gonna be able to Calvin film and also to connect
to the previous ten films. Means, even if you're gonna
make it, you know, a sequel to Nemesis, that itself
then would more or less make it, you know, at
least within the realm of lower decks, Prodigy, Star Trek, Picard,
none of which are have a problem with. Obviously, that

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would be lovely. I would love that shows up on
the big screen again. But in my heart of hearts,
I don't see that happening. And the reason I don't
see that happening is because of the lack of Star
Trek legacy. I know you might be like, I know this,
this news are worth nothing about Startred legacy, and you're right,
it doesn't. But if we look at the overall context

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of Star Trek over the last couple of years and
what we can perhaps assume is coming for the next
couple of years, what I don't see now is taking
the risk on connecting to those those stories.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
And the reason I say risk is because you know,
you know us. We will see this film. There's no
question it's a starterup film. Of course we're gonna watch it.
In a way, we're a safe audience. But in the
era of.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Increasing budgets, increasing just costs for everything, and a highly
diluted market, I'm just putting my business hat on here.
I understand the push to do something fresh and new,
something that doesn't require any homework to watch Now listen

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to be carefully. That does not mean I'm sitting here
gone by it being everything that came before, because I will.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Be quite upset if I was the thing these same sources.
And again now you must have.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Say Deadline has reported, and Deadline has got a pretty
good track record. I will say that, but again they
themselves say sources. So I want you to take everything
with the pinches out of the moment, right.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
So anything that seems confirmed, you know, it seems like
Goldstein and Francis Daily are on board, but yeah, everything
else is kind of open.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
The air's kind of the well of speculation book. But
one of these things that's being speculated is the fact
that it will feature all new characters.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
There's another way of reading this in a way, right.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
If you look at the Next Generation, with the exception
of DeForest Kenny turning up in Encounter at Firepoint, for
the most part, the next generation was with all new
characters Deep Space nine, with the exception of Miles O'Brien
moving over for a time, it was all new characters.

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So if it's as simple as that, it's a Star
Trek universe that just features a new ship in new characters, well,
That's just what we've gotten nearly every time that we've
got a new starter, Next Duration DS, My Voyager, Enterprise,
Lower Decks, Strange New Worlds. Yes, I know, Stranger Worlds
itself is kind of a spin off of the Cage
and you had Spot and everything, But do.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
You see what I mean?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Having something feature new characters, having something be fresh, not
necessarily laden with having to carry the story of the
next generation Star.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Track, Generation Space Nine, Discovering and Decks and Discovery. It
might not.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Be, but if it is, that was rumored to be
at least.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
So just like Discovery, My Decks, the Card, Strange New
Star Track, Strange New Worlds.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
And.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
The Space Nine and Wacher Next Generation, the Ration know
they planning to do a whole fish Star Track the
Star Tracking movie and not connect now that the other
characters to it. Alright, Hey, guys, if you know that

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we'll be getting a knight Rider movie, were getting a

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night Riding movie.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
Anniversary of the Jackson did form New York and that
was the only time I got to see my uncle
Michael before, just seeing the fans reactions and that really
inspired me to wanna.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Be yea we get the Michael Jackson movies and in
the trailer wrackets the trailer Michael Jackson movie both wrackets
jack could go see this movie.

Speaker 9 (29:23):
Jackson speaking playing Michael Jackson might look effortless from the outside,
but behind the scenes, something.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Far more intense was going on.

Speaker 9 (29:33):
There was pressure, pain and purpose colliding in the way
no one expected. Jaffar Jackson stepped into history, but the
world has no idea.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
What it really took until now. Let's dive in the name.

Speaker 9 (29:49):
There are families in entertainment who have shaped music, and
then there's the Jackson's. To say that Jaffar Jackson was
born into a legacy is an understatement. He inherited the
weight of a cultural dynasty. Born on July twenty fifth,
nineteen ninety six, in Los Angeles, Ja'afar is the son
of Jermaine Jackson, a founding.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Member of the Jackson Five.

Speaker 9 (30:11):
That makes him the nephew of Michael Jackson, arguably the
most influential pop artist in modern history, and from the
very beginning, Jaffar's path was anything but ordinary. Even as
a child, he was raised in the thick of the spotlight.
Family gatherings were peppered with musical legends, and living rooms
doubled as rehearsal spaces. His earliest memories are said to

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be filled with music, rhythm, and stories passed down from
one iconic generation to the next. But while most kids
might have been overwhelmed by such a towering lineage, Jaffar
seemed to absorb it quietly. By the age of twelve,
Insiders say he had already begun dabbling and singing and dancing.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
It came naturally.

Speaker 9 (30:53):
He reportedly took inspiration from artists like Bruno Mars and
Stevie Wonder, but the undeniable influence.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Of his uncle Michael was always present.

Speaker 9 (31:02):
Friends close to him have described watching him rehearse for hours,
trying to master the sub grace and intensity that defined
his uncle's performances, long before he ever imagined portraying.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Him on screen.

Speaker 9 (31:13):
But what's remarkable is how private Ja'afar was. Unlike other
celebrity children who rushed into the industry hungry for validation,
he stayed under the radar for most of his teens
and early twenties. He remained quiet in the public eye,
rarely appearing.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
In interviews or tabloids.

Speaker 9 (31:32):
He was selective with his presence almost as if he
was waiting for the right moment to step forward.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
And then there's the voice.

Speaker 9 (31:40):
People who've heard him sing said it smooth, controlled and
reminiscent of the Jackson sound, though not in imitation.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
There's a certain tone.

Speaker 9 (31:48):
He shares with his father's side of the family, that
mix of soul and clarity that cuts through any production.
But he's never pushed it to the forefront, never tried
to ride the family name into star arm. Those close
to him say he's always been focused on honoring the
legacy rather than exploiting it. Growing up, the shadow of
Michael loomed large, not just in the world, but within

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the family. There are stories of Ja'afar watching old concert
footage laid into the night, asking questions about stagecraft, about
how Michael moved a crowd, about the emotional weight behind
the music. According to family friends, he admired his uncle,
and he studied him. He did it to understand that
fascination would later become central to his biggest role yet.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
But in those early years, it was just part of
being Ja'far.

Speaker 9 (32:38):
What people don't always realize is how insulated some Jackson
family members tried to keep their younger generations. After the
media frenzy that surrounded Michael in his final years, the
family grew protective.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Jafar wasn't paraded around on.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
Red carpets or fed into the pop culture machine. His
childhood was relatively normal, at least as normal as it
could be inside the wall of one of music's most
watched families.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
He went to school, played sports, hung out with cousins.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
And learned how to navigate a world that never fully
let the Jackson name rest. Yet even in that privacy,
it was clear to those who knew him that Ja'afar
had inherited something intangible presence, a kind of quiet intensity,
the same kind that once made the world freeze the
moment Michael.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Stepped on stage.

Speaker 9 (33:25):
There's a story from someone close to the family that
during a holiday get together, Jaffar was asked to sing
just for fun, and halfway through the song, the room
went silent. No one expected it, but everyone recognized it
that spark.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
So while the world might have first.

Speaker 9 (33:42):
Noticed him when the biopic was announced, those who watched
him grow up weren't surprised. They saw it coming as
an inevitability. The spotlight eventually came to him, and when
it did. It came with a question, could anyone really
capture the essence of Michael Jackson? Could a nephew or
it into legace raised in quiet admiration, shaped by the

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very blood line that changed pop forever?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Possibly step into those shoes? That answer would come later
the journey.

Speaker 9 (34:14):
When Dews first broke that a Michael Jackson biopic was
in development, the announcement sent shock waves through the entertainment world.
There was immediate curiosity, skepticism, and overwhelming anticipation. Who could
possibly portray one of the most iconic figures in global
music history. According to reports, the casting process was exhaustive.

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It was all about finding someone who could embody the man,
the myth, and the complexity behind the King of Pop.
The studio reportedly searched across continents, holding auditions and reviewing
tapes from hundreds of potential candidates.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Producers and the director.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
Needed someone with the emotional depth to portray both the
meteoric rise and the often painful reality of Michael's life.
It was clear from the start this wouldn't be a
surface level re enactment. It would be a character study,
a biopic rooted in truth, vulnerability.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
And scale.

Speaker 9 (35:09):
And then, after more than two years of searching, the
unexpected happened.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
The role went to someone within the family.

Speaker 9 (35:16):
Ja'afar insiders say it wasn't a decision made out of sentimentality.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
In fact, the bar was even higher for him.

Speaker 9 (35:24):
With the world watching and the Jackson name attached, there
was no room for error. The producers reportedly reviewed his
early screen tests and movement tapes multiple times. According to
one insider, the moment he walked in and delivered his
first few lines, there was a.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Shift in the room.

Speaker 9 (35:40):
The decision to cast him was ultimately approved by the
Jackson estate and more significantly, by Michael's.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Mother, Catherine. Her support gave.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
The project emotional weight and credibility. Those involved in the
film have since shared that her blessing was deeply personal.
According to several crew members, she was moved to tears
water early rehearsals, noting how eerily similar Ja'afar was imposture, mannerisms,
and energy. Director Antoine Fuqua, known for his attention to

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detail and emotionally driven storytelling, was reportedly blown away by
Jaffar's early performances. He praised his ability to recreate iconic
dance routines. He emphasized how Jaffar had managed to channel
the internal world of Michael, the shy nature, the calculated intensity,
the burden of fame. But the casting didn't come without

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its share of public scrutiny. Critics questioned whether a family
member could bring enough objectivity to the role. Others speculated
that the estate's involvement might compromise the film's honesty. Yet
those closest to the project pushed back on that narrative,
arguing that Jaffar's perspective brought more truth, not less. They
insisted that someone who understood the emotional gravity from within

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could offer a portrayal that went beyond headlines and tabloid myths, and,
perhaps most importantly, audiences responded. When the first promotional photo
was released, Jaffar dressed in full costume mid performance. It
went viral within hours. Fans were stunned by the resemblance.
But it wasn't just the look. The expression, the stance,

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the sheer commitment radiating from the still image gave people pause.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
It wasn't a cheap impersonation. It felt authentic.

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Behind that photo was a long, quiet journey, not just
the two year casting process, but the years Jafar spent
unknowingly preparing, shaped by stories, memories, and the aura of
someone the world never really let go of. It was
the culmination of a search that, in the end didn't
need to look far. The answer was already in the family.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
The training.

Speaker 9 (37:53):
Portraying Michael Jackson is all about stepping into the skin
of one of the most electrifying performers the world has
ever seen, and for Jaffar Jackson that meant total immersion.
From the moment production began, every part of his daily
life became centered around transforming into his late uncle mentally, physically,
and emotionally. According to insiders close to the production, the

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training regiment Jaffar underwent was nothing short of extreme. It
started with dance, which was an essential part of Michael's identity.
Jaffar reportedly trained five to six hours a day, working
with choreographers who had either worked directly with Michael or were.

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Well versed in his intricate routines.

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It was about capturing the rhythm within the silence, the
sharpness of a single spin, and the gravity defying.

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Fluidity of the moon walk.

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Those who observed these rehearsals say that Jaffar pushed his
body to its limits. Even seasoned dancers have struggled to
replicate Michael's timing and execution, but Jaffar was determined to
get every move right. One person familiar with the training
sessions said that by week three he had developed noticeable
soreness in his knees and back, a common issue for

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dancers practicing hours of popping, gliding and heel slides on
hardwood floors, and it didn't stop there.

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He also took vocal training seriously.

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Michael's voice had a signature tone, high, breathy yet powerful.

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Ja'afar reportedly worked.

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With vocal coaches multiple times a week, not just to
sing like Michael, but to speak like him too, in
quiet seems, in interviews, in off stage moments, Michael had
a distinct softness to his voice, a sort.

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Of cautious elegance. Ja'afar had to.

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Learn how to express intensity without volume, how to embody
charisma without shouting. The physical transformation was another challenge altogether.
To match Michael's slender frame, Ja'afar had to lean out significantly.
Insider's claim he followed a strict diet and cardio heavy
fitness plan designed to reduce body fat while maintaining energy

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and flexibility. At one point, its reported that he dropped
nearly fifteen pounds in just over a month. Traders closely
monitored his stamina, as the dance routines alone required athletic conditioning.

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On par with professional performers.

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Between rehearsals, he was reportedly hydrating constantly and rotating through
ice baths to manage inflammation. But the hardest part, according
to those closest to the process, wasn't the dancing, the singing,
or even the hours. It was the emotional weight. Becoming
Michael meant stepping into a life filled with contradictions, global

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love and intense isolation, brilliance and controversy.

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Joy and profound pain.

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Ja'afarr was reliving moments that the family knew all too well,
the loneliness of hotel rooms, the scrutiny of the.

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Press, the quiet sadness behind the curtain.

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To help him through that emotional load, the production team
reportedly arranged private sessions with family members and consultants who
had known Michael personally. They shared worries about the fame
and about the man behind it. These moments gave Jaffar
context for scenes that required more than just imitation. They
gave him understanding, and through it all, Jaffar remained focused.

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He avoided distractions, stayed mostly offline, and didn't give many
interviews during this period. People who interacted with him said
he was in character nearly twenty four to seven, mainly
because the boundaries between Jaffar and Michael had temporarily blurred.
He walked like him, moved like him, carried himself with

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the same guarded intensity.

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It wasn't pretend it was lived.

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This chapter of preparation was a transformation, and by the
time cameras rolled, Jaffar was channeling his uncle.

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The emotions.

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This movie. We see this. It wasn't moving interview.

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It came quietly.

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Run playing Detroit.

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In this movie, he looked like Michael.

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He moved and all the things dismayed he went through
the story was something far more town. We gotta go
see this.

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Uncle, Michael Jackson really was Jeoffrar.

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Jackson revealed that it was emotionally draining on a level
he hadn't expected. According to production insiders, there were days
on set when he had to step away from the camera,
overwhelmed by the emotional weight of certain scenes. These weren't
scripted breakdowns. They were real moments of exhaustion, triggered by
scenes that echoed family pain, public scrutiny, and the suffocating

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loneliness that Michael endured in private.

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What surprised Jeoffar most, he admitted, was the psychological toll.

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One inside described a moment during filming when Jaffar had
to recreate a scene involving Michael's legal troubles. Though the
script was written with sensitivity, simply stepping into that world
dressed as Michael, speaking like him, standing under bright lights
while portraying his most vulnerable years hit him with a
force he didn't expect. It wasn't acting at that point,

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the source said.

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Jaffar used to cry almost every day.

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Playing Michael Jackson was just draining him, but he was
determined to give his best. In one rare conversation, offset,
Jaffar allegedly confided that some days he felt like he
had to fight his own emotions to stay grounded.

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When he looked in the mirror, he didn't always see himself.

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He saw someone in the world, adored, criticized, misunderstood, and
lost too soon.

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It bugged his.

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Sense of self in a way. He'd never experienced before.
There was also the matter of expectation. Jaffar was a
family member represented being someone.

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Who had shaped global culture. The government is banning this
thirty nine dollars.

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So it's a more time for me to go. I'm
gonna make another podcast. You don't wanna see this YouTube thing.
Just go to my YouTube code, Garayway Locked podcast YouTube
channel and I will show it again. But it's almost

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time to say goodbye my friends, and we gotta talk
about more about the Star Trek and the rest of
the world. I mean, just just be careful.

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You're silent about his holers in World War Two for
sixty five years.

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When he finally spoke it.

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Just be careful out there, people.

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Wiggins was silent about his horrors and the world.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Just be careful out there people. I mean, it's it's
rough right now, and we'll we'll make through. We make
it through this, okay, and more likely we will get

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through this more than ever gave my friends. And they
got the new Friday the Last Friday poster up on YouTube.
Go check it out. And I'm on vacation until next

(45:58):
Friday anyway, so and I will be doing a lot
of a lot of podcasting, So you gonna have a
lot of podcasts up here. Mm so. And I'm gonna
do a test on my YouTube, so check that out.
You gotta go find it, poor you with my podcast

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show YouTube. Okay, and I will up blink I blink
on a lot of videos. They won't be wrong, No,
they will just be tested tests, and me and my
manager we will get the wrong version of their you

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YouTube channel in this podcast. In Stories or Science Fiction,
December the fifth. The first service is called the Black
Sea Hurry or Orly and it's crew go to an
uncharted region of the galaxy called the Black Seat, deal

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with danger, new adventure, planets, everything. Go check it out
and start. Decemven the fifth. The first three episodes is ready.
Episode four will be written five and six before I

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get back to work. And also, don't forget my book
Day of Blood. Go buy it for a book word
science fiction or her. Buy it for Christmas for somebody.
It's on boson Noble website. And yes, you can go

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to Bond the bosson Noble and ask them to order
it for you. And you can order it bossing Noble
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or bossing uble on the holiday might go down around
Black Friday. So go get your copy and or you
can just download the e book all right, get example,
read example, really good book.

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You heard what they don't say.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Earlier about the government, Yeah, that's what they doing. But
go get your copy, and and so much thing's going on,

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and just start of lock to talk about YouTube. Facebook's
helping me out to find something this stuff. But remember,
say your prayers at night, say your prayers in the morning,
say your prayers in the evening. And then three pounds

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a day, just like you eat three times a day. Pray.
We need it more than ever right now. Pray for
your family. You pray for mine. I ain't hear nothing
from Jessica. She called me a couple of times, but

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now seeming like maybe her mother blocked her phone or something.
I don't know, but just pray. Pray for my kids,
especially Jessica. She's she having another child and she don't
have a good mother. People, I promise you on that line,

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he don't have a good one mother. I mean, please
believe me. I mean.

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That.

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Don't wanna get into it, but just pray, alright, and
just pray that he and my kids will have a
super relationship cause I'm I'm planning to stay here until
I'm in my late nineties. I all over asked God

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for a past, and I think he granted. Every time
I ask him for something, he give it to me.
I mean that it's the true. I mean ask him
to stay at the time cause I was, hey, I'm
his got a new job. Steven Mars got that job.

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The Bible said, if this ask, and it should be given,
and that's all you need so we have longer prosper
made the voice of Jesus be. Will you love each other,
pray for each other, look out for each other, and

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never never hate each other. They brothers and sisters in heaven.
You are my brother sister, and the earth kay and

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the strong look out for the weak. Okay, if you
have help someone else to get And that's all I
got to say. See you next time. I wanna quoe
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