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is this the biggest regular season for these Kansas City
Chiefs since when?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I don't know. I remember the first year that Andy
Reid was here. I was sent to Denver because the
Chiefs had won every game, and you know then they
were so good that and the other teams have been
intermittently not so good that I can't think of one
that came later in the year that carried this kind
of import And part of the reason is because the
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Chiefs haven't done there. The Chiefs are seven and two
right now. This would still be a big game, but
it would be a big game for both teams to
buy for the division. But it's not like it's elimination
game for the Chiefs, but it's a game to push
it to the brink. And for the Broncos, they can't
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feel an intense amount of pressure in this game. I
don't think they're the underdogs at home and they've still
got a lead. They'll still have a lead even if
they lose it. They just played a terrible game, but
one they had time to think about it. I think
the Chiefs will get a much better version of the Broncos.
Does that mean they can't beat them? No, it does not,
and I'm going to pick the Chiefs to win, but
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I do since a huge dose of overconfidence in Chiefs Nation,
I will say that I would agree.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I think Chiefs fans have got this on the board.
To me, Chiefs fans have already got like seven more
wins on the board. And I think that's why I
think that's one of the reasons why I think this
game is so important is because with they win, Chiefs
fans can continue to think that way. And with they win,
you're talking division championship and you're talking of fighting for
the one seed were they lost. The one seed is dead.
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The division championship, I believe, is dead when you couple
in the Broncos schedule and you're talking about a team
that's now just fighting to get in the playoffs. And
so the tone of what this team is from being like, no,
we can still be the best team in the AFC
versus I'm not sure we're gonna make the postseason. That
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is a big gap.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
It's a huge gap. And also, I think we still
see that perception of the Chiefs nationally by the odds makers,
by the odds, by the experts who are still saying
that they think the Chiefs are the pick to go
to the Super Bowl or super Bowl favorite period. If
they lose, they're a five hundred team that probably will
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have played like it because if they lose this game,
you would imagine it would not be it would be
a game where the offense didn't look very good. I
don't see the Broncos beating the Chiefs thirty one to
twenty eight, right, so there'd be more questions about the offense.
I think people would have to say, oh, well, at
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Denver defense, I guess they're for real. They weren't just
beaten up on a bunch of Patsy's. So yes, I
think it's probably less important than some other game on
the build for the Chiefs because they hadn't won all
that much. I mean, if the Chiefs say the Chiefs
didn't make the playoffs this year. I mean, it would
be shocking, but they've won three Super Bowls, so you can't,
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you know, you can't really cry that much. I still
expect them to make the playoffs. I expect them to
win this game, but I think it's going to be
a lot more difficult than people are making it out
to be. And you know, that air of confidence I
think may finally be a little bit dashed if they
were to lose the game, too, because at this point
in time, you'd be Bill Parcell's slogan, you are what
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your record says you are. They'd be a five hundred
team and they will just come off a loss, and
the stretch where they looked like they were world beaters
again is out the window. And the other part of
it is if they lose this game, it probably will
be come with a cavalcade of a pass rush against
their offensive line, So all those things are in play.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Here for sure. You kind of touched on it. What
does a Bronco win look like in my mind is
like sixteen fourteen, Yes, fourteen thirteen.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I think it'd probably be more like a sixteen thirteen
type of thing where they held the Chiefs through a
couple of field goals or maybe you know with sixteen twelve.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Or seventeen sixteen, right, you know, yeah, I'm with you.
That's I think. At Chiefs win, then the numbers get higher.
And that is one thing I think. Not only are
that she's favored by three and a half, but the
total is forty four and a.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Half, which says about twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Four to twenty by conventional scores. I think if they
were thinking Broncos, that number would be down around forty
forty one.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
And if this game is to get out it is.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Two teams that rank very highly on the defensive side.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Right, And if it's a game that's going to get
out the gate, I think it'd be the Chiefs who
would be the ones who would I don't see the
Broncos winning handily, Like I see a scenario where the
Chiefs could win this game ten or thirteen points, I do.
I don't expect that, but they certainly could frustrate the Broncos.
Broncos offense could be terrible all day. Chiefs could get
a turnover in a short field. They could be pretty
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good on offense themselves. Scheme up a game plan where
the pass rush becomes a little less effective. Chiefs probably
don't care about running the ball. They never really do.
So you know, somebody said the other day, no, no,
Isaiah Pacheco.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Again.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I was listening to the words came out of somebody's
mouth on this station, I think, and I was like,
I immediately said out loud in my car, so what.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
The other thing? That?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
No, really, Oh my god, I just changed my thought
on the game.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Ten by fifty. Yeah, it will be interesting to see
who that is who's brought up. Last week it was
Clyde Edwards Hilaire. Will it be Elijah Mitchell? I just
call him the myth because there's no evidence and he's
existed since the beginning of the season. But I think
Matt Naggie said yesterday that it was more of a
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matchup thing, which is why they had Clyde there in Buffalo.
Isn't a matchup thing this week? I guess we'll we'll
find out. Among the things we'll find out at two
o'clock on Sunday, is or maybe before that. Who's he
getting the elevation?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I mean, Mitchell just must have completely just that's weird.
He's done. I done as an NFL football player, it
has been healthy and then the last Pett Edwards Hilaire,
the last thing we've heard from the coaching staff about
him was that he had work to do and picking
this up or there are certain things he has wasn't
up to snuff about. Andy Reid says, well, you know,
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he had a serious injury, and last week he said, well,
obviously we love Elijah, not obviously to most people because
he's been in active entire season. So we'll see how
how maybe he's a heck of a guy.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
It might be a heck of a guy, but we
I don't want to play in running back right exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah. I think if the Chiefs are gonna win, then
they do get some things going on offense. I'm gonna
be intrigued about whether or not Josh Simmons plays. Seems
like everybody's kind of trending towards the fact that they
think he is gonna play. I'm kind of surprised by that.
How you can be inactive for five weeks. I don't
care if you're working out, you can't do you can't
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play football. And he's already a guy that's coming back
from a potella injury. Now shut it down for five
weeks and I start a back up does not seem
like the best way to take care of that.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
But unless it's gamesmanship, could be We also have no
we since we don't know anything about really, we're just
it's just supposition as to why he's missed all this football.
Don't have any idea whether he's ready to play football,
not just not physically, but mentally mentally. You know, if
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this if it was to the point where he couldn't
play football and that was the issue, and it wasn't
a family issue or whatever they were trying to trot
out there, then that's not just something you just say, Okay,
I'm ready to play football. I mean it's not. Yeah,
if you're to the point where you can't do what
you do best and what you supposedly have poured your
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life's work into when you love and you can't do it,
and that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, And there's a mentality that you have to be
able to get to to play this game at a
high level. It is a very aggressive game. And if
you are not in the right mindset and you can't
be aggressive and you can't focus while being aggressive, or.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
You can't Aaron Trump can't take it. You know that
people are going to say he struggles undo play. I mean,
he's gonna hear it. He's going to hear all kinds
of things that he doesn't want to hear that may
or may not be accurate. You get to absorbed that too,
and not exactly the best place to go for your
first time back. Hey here's the Broncos front four.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Well Nick Medinho puts his hand in the ground and
he's a talker. Yeah right, like Chris, you've been seventy one. Yeah, right,
you picked the wrong week to come back here, kid, right,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Chris Dolman just turns some guy. Hey, Mags, Mags, at
this point, you got to be at least a little nervous, Yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, Don Maggs was trying to block Chris Dolman.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, Yeah, it's yeah, I mean, it's it's a real thing,
the mental side of it. If he does play, and
he can and he can play like he was playing
at the end, then they got a lot better chance.
And I think if they can handle the pass rush,
you know, and I you know, they blitz more than
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people realize, right, they've they've got talent up front, no doubt,
but they they come at you with a lot of people,
and so you've got to be able to, you know, one,
be smart. I think Sam said this morning, they blitz
more than Steve Pagnolo, So they're bringing extra people. So
not only is it they're good, but you got to
you got to understand where they're coming from.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
And the other aspect of it is we've seen that
for all his laundry list of attributes, you can get
into Patrick Mahomes's head with the rush that he sees
ghosts a little bit after, you know, seeing real NFL
football players in his backfield. Then he sometimes sees them
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when they're not necessarily there.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Yeah, and if he can get enough time the fact that,
I mean one of the best cover corners in the
game is not going to be there some dangland patrickstand
can it? Can they give them enough time to take
advantage of that? And how do they do that? How
do they take advantage of it?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's another reason why I think this is so big,
as is that point well, and Satan's not playing and
Dobbins is not playing, So if they run all over
you then that that's it. You can't you you definitively
cannot stop the run. Right if they then that that
is an issue?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I think RJ. Harvey is a good back, but I
think he's also a smaller back that's a finesse back
and a big play guy, not really a guy that's
going to pound away. So I think it'll be interesting
to see how they do feature the running backs in
this game. But then the flip side is, if you
don't move the ball through the air, and if you
can't get anybody downfield at least a little bit into
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the intermediate range when certain's not there, why to think
you're going to be able to do it with any
regularity against anybody.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Right against the quality opponent. I mean, there's a lot
of things that play in this particular game, and it's
just after all this, you don't really need to have
this one, but it's for this season. It's a prove
it game. Are you really a legitimate playoff and Super
Bowl contender this year? Because you're not winning this game.
(14:51):
You could lose to the Colts certainly, I mean you're
I'm not saying it's not like you're playing a bad team.
So you're not saying you can lose to anybody, but
I think we can all see that the Broncos are
a flawed team. That they've stolen a few games. They're
probably more like a five hundred ishame team with average
quarterback play and you know, a fantastic pass rush for
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an attribute, but they're no world beaters, so and all
the chips are there. I just want to see the
start of the game and see. It's been remarkable to
me that through all this success that the last few years,
after the part where they just tore people apart for
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a couple of years, how slow the Chiefs start game
after game after game. They just don't seem ready to
go right at the start. You can explain it, well,
we're going to see what they're doing and then we're
going to adjust to it and whatever it just come
out and kick somebody's teeth in. Right from the start.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
The routine laid down like seven nothing here. It is
now generally tickle on the defensive side, like boy, they
just went right down the field against the Chiefs. Holy hell.
And then at the end of the game, we're going
they have thirteen points and.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Two dred and seventy that's a lot of times they
do consistent.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
But yes, I.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Will say that going right down the field, you make
it sound like it's like, you know, four plays. No,
but I'm d I mean, it does drive do I
agree with you, But I just want to specify. They
present problems. They just don't ever seem to get the
other team off the field on that first drive. And
I do think part of it is their counterpunchers. I mean,
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I think they come come and say they don't throw
their best out immediately, and they're holding that back. And
I don't think you can argue with the results years.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
No, I don't. I think being a puncher is better
than being a counter puncher. If I had to choose,
I'd rather punch.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Is it better to be that way on offense or defense?
I mean, or is it the same?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Well, during this period, I also a lot of times
had a nice first drive and then just gone fallow
for a while.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, No, I agree. I They've also they've also been
early in the year we were talking about like the
script sucks, right, and they got they got to fix
the script and they and they've been better. So I mean,
I do think there's an element of Okay, you want
to probe the defense, but along the way, you can't
keep spotting the other team seven to nothing, ten nothing
while you're figuring out what they're doing. I listen, a
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counterpuncher doesn't just stand there and never throw a punch
until the other guy punches. It's just that he is, Okay,
I see where my opening.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Movie he's using his jab a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, we're taking the boxing analogy a long way,
but the idea of a counterpuncher is while you're bringing
the hand back from well, the other person's bringing the
hand back from punching, that's when the best opening is
because their hand is not up protecting themselves. So that's
the idea of counter punching. It doesn't quite apply as
much in football, but I think, you know the I
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do think that they need to have a better they
need to be I definitely think they need to be
unleashing some fury early on offense because I do think
the defense is susceptible to the ground game. I think
they cannot get a consistent pass rush, and they're a
lot better when they know the other team has to
throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yes, it's no coincidence that their best pass rush games
have been games when they've been up by double digits.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, it gets tough to blitz the corner when you
think that they're going to run at you, right.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And they have a quarterback who could cause problems with
his legs, that'll be interesting. You know, you have a
fine play caller on the other team who's probably can
see that his quarterback is not aces right now, and
he's going to conjure up some kind of you know,
I expect to see some bootlegs and you know, stuff
like that that could make him feel better about where
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he's at, because they haven't. He's not been playing well period.
You know, They've had a couple of nice comebacks. He's
had some heroics, but generally he hasn't played nearly as
well as he did last year. So, but Sean Payton
knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And the Broncos have a really good offensive line.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yes, that's probably the well they're both lines and what
we've seen in games where the Chiefs haven't looked particularly good,
gotten beaten, whatever is at the end of the game
you're saying, Wow, you just got killed in the trenches.
You know, that's the prescription for the Broncos. Their offensive
lines real good, their defensive lines real good. As you say,
they add in you know they spice it up with
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But you can lean on that offensive line, Yeah you can.
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Clark all right, The Nick and Jakes end of the
Hour Answer four Chiefs have scored at least five touchdowns
against the Broncos in Denver. I asked for any one
of them.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Four Chiefs have scored five touchdowns total or in a
game five career touchdowns. Well, Jamal charleslos no, only four? Wow?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
So the only four touchdowns you got from that one game, it.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Would appear Jamal Charles has scored. They only showed three
full td long Yeah three? Is this just rushing or
just score just scoring any kind of touchdowns, any kind
of touchdowns?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Four and one game against the Raiders he did oh
in Denver, like it was there late.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I remember best games, the big monster performance against them.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Well, maybe he didn't have a big monster performance. I
remember the two hundred and some yards. I don't think
he scored four touches. The four touchdown game I remember
from him was was against was against the game at Oakland.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Thought he had like a kick return for a touchdown
and a couple of rushing rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You can career game Loge was hallucinating.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Verify that, But according to profit Pro Football Reference or
stat head, he has three.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Really, well, so five career touchdowns Marcus Allen of any
kind of any.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Kind well Tyreek Hill travel is Kelsey four?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Was Kelsey has two?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Eddie Kennison Nope, Reek Revenge. No, Tony Gazalas he has four?
How many did you say? Is that the question is
how many or.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Five or more? How many? No? I said, I said
there were four. I asked, any one of the four
scored five or scored five or more? Well, I'm I'm fuddled.
Now got a running back word. Two wide receivers are
towards the top at the top along with the guy
who otis te Fan Otis Taylor. Otis Taylor is the
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all time leader with eight. Chris Burford, Okay, Bert Cohne.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Priest Holmes, we should have got that one. That's You're
pretty bad not getting that one. Danny.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, it's excusable for me, but you that's a problem
Motus Taylor contained. And when I saw his name up there,
I smiled. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I guess maybe I'm trying to avoid any priest Home's
touchdown talk, because he went out and said the Priestones
was going to score more touchdowns that season, and then
they just handed them the ball every time they inside.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The five well, and they had the line that they
could bully them if the Chiefs could do that, now.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Good idea. But the previous year he hadn't scored many
touchdowns or something.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
And he had eight in leading the league in rushing,
and he had eight. The next year he had twenty
one than twenty seven. That's forty eight touchdowns in two years.
Is getting it done?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
To Danny's point, rushing touchdowns against the Broncos one zero
zero one zero zero zero zero zero two one. That's
five right there. So your stat sucks, Curtis, maybe their
search suck.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Let me see what they have.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
It's only relying.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I've got five rushing touchdowns at Denver. Oh, at Denver.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, this was at Denver.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Two at Denver.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, it's probably right.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's probably right though, that makes sense. Yeah, I have
to look at his receiving touchdowns as well. But dazzling radio.
For me to sit here and study.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
This blundering around trying to find five was dabbling radio two?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Three? Yeah, I got three, Danny, real quick. I want
to ask you about supporting Kansas City, all about the
MLS making the jump to the international window in twenty seven.
I'm not sure why they're not doing it.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I know, I think it was I think it would
be great this year because I think it would allow
them to have a big kickoff to this new idea
coming off the World wld Cup instead of instead of
playing games while the world.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
You're going to show down during the World Cup?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Are they shutting?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I think so?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Okay, longs time, I know. So I think it's good.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I think it's long overdue.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I think you know, people are thinking, oh my god,
you're gonna have I play and then dead or winner. Well,
your playoffs are then now, I mean we all anybody
who went to the game where they won the championship,
it was brutal. It was outside outside press box seating.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It was always told to me that the idea was
they they did not want to be kicking off their
season going opposite of the NFL Mike. So instead you
finished your season. And in America, every sport, the value
of your television contract is in the playoffs, right, and
so now Baseball's it's it. They say the formula is
basically seventy to seventy five percent of the value of
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having a Major League Baseball contract is in showing the playoffs,
because that's the only time you really get any viewers, right, well,
it's gonna be the same thing for soccer, at least
for the next forty to fifty years. So why would
you bury your playoffs against the NFL when the rest
of the world doesn't do that, And so now your
playoffs have an opportunity to shine opposite nothing that carries
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the kind of ratings that football.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Does against baseball pretty much.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I mean, I will actually watch MLS playoffs over watching
a reds Pirates game because there's something on it. But
I'm not going to watch an MLS playoff game over
Titans Bengals. I mean, it's just football is the behemoth.
This is so long overdue. Plus I think they are
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players that don't want to play at the time that
you do. Plus I don't think your products is good
playing in the heat.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I think another thing that played into it too is
now in this modern era we stop games for lightning
and during the summer, that happens a lot, a lot.
It's probably happened five times for sporting games this year.
I would think home and away. Maybe that's low. So
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there's still whether to be To be honest, soccer probably
shouldn't you know, No, ideally is not a sport you
want to play when it's one hundred degrees.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Oh, I agree. I think it harms the product. I
think you're going to get a better product when you're
not playing in ninety four with eighty percent humanity. Like
it's it's.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I mean, it doesn't really snow or anything there, but
the whole Premier League season. I mean it's when you
watch a game and the sun's out, You're like, oh, hey, wow,
how about that, Hey the sun's out. Like the other day,
I was watching, you know, Manchester City play and the
announcer goes, well, there, rain's coming down here in Manchester.
Hardly headline news. Yeah, it rains all the time in Manchester,
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so you know, and it's kind of chilly and whatever.
So yeah, I think it's great. I think it's great.
You know, they you're just never going to have the
kind of juice to your league season, however, but it's America,
so that the world's different without I don't think we're
ever going to get to promotion, regulation relegation in America.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
But not any time soon, not for a long time.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
But which is such a cool thing. But this is
a great step. I think it's a great step and
matches up with the you know, transfer windows and and
and all the things that are important about soccer.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, I think we could get to the I think
we could eventually get there because I think it does
when you can increase the television ratings and right now
they got to get ratings up there that matter more.
But like we know that the two turds playing in
the Premier League is a big game if it's for
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staying in the Premier League.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Imagine the Giants and the Bears are playing, and you
know the loser is going to this because going to
the sec BFL or.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I'm with you, So I think it could eventually get there.
But I will say this I've always said about the schedule.
They they the league was saved. If you read the
biography about Lamar Hunt, there's a chapter they detail saving
the MLS. Three guys got together, Lamar Hunt, Antshoots, and Craft.
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Because Antshoots owned like six or seven of the teams,
Lamar owned like three of them, in Craft owned one, right,
they were the only owners. And they're like, do we
shut this thing down? And they said no, We're gonna
give it a go. But they came up with a
list of things they were gonna change. They'd done all
this research, like one the fans, like there are all
these people watching EPL games on a Sunday morning, like,
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well you're going to the MS game? Like no, well
why because your clock counts down. That's not how soccer is.
You have shootouts instead of ties, that's not how soccer is.
They went through and they basically like, okay, we have
to adopt. They tried to americanize it, and that walled
off all the soccer fans and it was not attracting
the non soccer fans, and so they changed it all
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to it. And I'm like, so, right then, why didn't
you change the schedule?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I mean, and they did. That's the one thing.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
And part of is because all three guys were football
owners too, and they're like, I want something to do
when it's not football. I think it was half of it,
but this, to me is the last holder, and I
think it'll be a big boom for the league.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Also, they're at the same time they announced they're they're
getting risk rid of the specific MLS pass for Apple TV.
You're just gonna have to be able to have Apple.
If you have Apple TV, you get to watch the
mls now well, which another good thing.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Because Apple found out people aren't paying for.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
It, right.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Probably, I mean I didn't because I'm a media member,
but I would have. Probably I would have.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I would have watched.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I mean, I have Peacock so I can watch the
EPL games that aren't on USA. So I don't use
it probably as often. It's probably not worth it because
there's enough games on USA that I usually don't get
through them all. But if Arsenal it's my team, if
they're playing on exclusively on Peacock, which they are next Sunday,
then I have Peacock and I can watch the game.
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So I haven't broken down and gotten Paramount yet for
the Champions League.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
But I may do that. So you're not up to
date on Tulsa King.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
No, No, My wife has just started watching land Man.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I will say that, well that's a Paramount.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I don't know how she's well, maybe she's goot.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Paraly you know. You know what they did was they
brought they put land Man on the Paramount network, which
if you have a cable or what a description is, yeah,
it's streamed on Paramount Plus. But then their little thing
is they get you hooked on it, hoping. Okay, now
here's season two. But to watch season two, you know,
watch on Paramount Plus. That's the same thing they did
(31:33):
with with Yellowstone. It's like, oh, okay, well we'll run
the old seasons, try to get you hooked so you
go subscribe to get the new ones. But all right,
let's take a break. I want to get into eli drink.
What's saying it's not just about the playoffs with Danny
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got to get past this, you know, playoffs or bus mentality.
You know enough of this.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Well, I think I somewhat agree with his sentiment.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
And and and by the way he wants a trophy
for being in contention for the playoffs into November.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Well, I didn't hear that part, but I think it's he.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Didn't say he wants a trophy. He just like we
were in contention into mid November. I'm like, not, not really,
you were knocked out of contention on on the you
hadn't been a little right.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
So it's you know, I think it's terrible timing, whether
he's you know.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Bad ideas. So the first time he said something, I
think he's pissing Mazoo fans.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Off because you know, you just basically lost a couple
of games and dropped yourself out of playoff contention. I gen,
you know, I sort of agree that if you're Missouri,
any school that's like Missouri, if not Georgia, not whatever,
I mean, like Indiana, No, but to the for the
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expectation to make Indiana to be right. Right, if you
were like Indiana this year and you had playoff aspirations
and it went sideways and you weren't in a playoff team,
that shouldn't make the season of failure. Now, for instance,
what Iowa State's doing this year, they're kind of failing
at it at their own good level. You know, that's
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that's worth being mad about. They're supposed to be good
and they're no good at all.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
But my point about bringing up Indiana. Is I hear
what you're saying, And I think that's where it's like,
you know, we look at like, well, if you're Iowa,
you know, and you're not going to make the playoffs. Yeah,
you're a good program, which Missouri is a good program,
but you know, thinking you're going to make the playoffs
is really it's going to take a special year. And
I'm like, like Indiana, like Indiana was more like Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky. Right,
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three schools that are not supposed to get anywhere near
the playoffs, and Indiana's barreling, barreling towards their second consecutive
playoff in a state that's not popular, not heavily populated,
like Indiana, to me, is making it Kurt Signetti is
making it really hard on a lot of other people.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Well, I agree, But if Indiana next year has a
good season again, but they're not, you know, they're knocked
out of the there like Missouri, they're out of play
and then and the fans were like up in arms,
I think that would be wrong. That's That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Okay, but Indiana will have been been Yes, that will
be wrong on the fans, But let's now back up
about what the expectations should be. Can you, as an
SEC coach, stand at a podium and make the statement
it shouldn't be about the playoffs. When Indy blanking Anna
is going to its second straight playoffs, I mean to
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me that there are no more excuses. Frank, there's no
excuse for Lance Leipoldt. Like my buddy, our buddy's always like, hey,
can't I be able to say, yes, you can be upset, right,
But when you're an SEC school, maybe Vanderbilt and they're academics,
but look at Vanderbilt, they're not that far from getting
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into the playoff conversation. I don't think when Indiana has
done what it has done that anybody in the Big
Ten or the SEC, with the exception of perhaps Vanderbilt
and Northwestern, should ever be saying people got to calm
down about this playoff talk. No, you got to raise
the program.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I think we're saying the same thing. I think we're agreeing.
I think, yes, you should have aspirations. To me, but
if Missouri has a ten win season, it still should
be considered a fine season.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yes, right at that point. But if they have a
ten win season, they'll be in the playoff talk. They're
not going to have a ten win season, well, they
still could have it. A ten win season in the
regular season will put them into the playoff talk. Right,
he should he should be acknowledging yes, it's a disappointment. Agreed,
he should not be telling the fans. You people got
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to figure this ysel.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Like I said, it was a horrendous It was horrendous timing.
And also he still has to rally the troops to
get to a fine season for Missouri, a season that
they are going to be. If they win all the
rest of their games and win ten games, then it's
a good season. Whether they had this part that put
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them out of playoff contention on November fourteenth or whenever
he said it November twelfth or not. So yeah, I
think terrible timing. Just something that should not be said
out loud one way or the other. Just don't say it.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
And it wasn't like it was a response to a
direct question about should should this talk go away? He
was asked about what you know, what's left to play for?
And he literally stopped and said, now, by the way,
I want to say this, and he got that. He
said I said this back at the SEC media a
day as well, and so it was something he wanted
to get out. There wasn't. Sometimes I think people will
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take an answer and think when he thinks that, well
was what was the question that was asked? The question
wasn't asked about whether that should leave the lexicon. He
he went there, right, he also shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
I thought he was somebody who was sort of above
being overtly sensitive to you know, he's supposed to be
the guy with swagger and.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
You know, right, so k Kurt Signetti was kind of
the Dan Campbell of college coaches when he walked out
onto the center of the court at Indiana basketball game
after being hired and talked about kicking Ohio State's ass.
We're like, settle down, Yeah, settle When he said down,
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google me yeah, and it's like, well, this is what
we're gonna do. Like and he did it. Now, there
are plenty of people I'm sure that I've talked that
talk and didn't walk it, but I don't. I don't. Yeah,
I mean yes, And now Dion is going to tell
you about how they don't have enough money on the roster. Yeah,
we'll take a four million dollar pay cut. You know,
there's four million to spent on the roster exactly. But yeah,
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I mean, I just I just I to me, it's
the first chink in his armor.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I mean it's also to me, it's almost him going on.
I don't know that we're ever going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
And you would think that, well, he probably you know,
lost his way into having a job offer that he
would take now, but it probably would give you an
indication that he got hot again and had a big
year next year, that he might would just walk as well.
I don't think we can do it.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
He completely eliminated himself from Florida and LSU. I watched
what the message board said and they had those quotes,
they're like cross then it was like the KGB from
Rounders or no, no, it was the Major League owner
cross him off. Then right he got across.
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