Adult Decisions! Dishin' Days week of Sept 1st-5th, 2025

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because he's hard at hearing, and having a birthday celebratory
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Make sure y'all give a shout out to our very
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wish a happy happy birthday to Rally. Happy happy birthday
to Rli Hey, thank.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
You, Thank you everyone, Yes you're still standing. It's been
a fun birthday week and I got to spend the
whole my whole birthday with just me and my sister,
which was really nice. And then my mom took me
to a concert yesterday. Yes I guess, yeah, that'd be

(04:15):
My My cake was delicious. I had I had strawberry
shortcake as I I was serenaded by Josh Grobin. Yes, yes, yes,
I'm always He's always such a treat and you know
he's an LA native, so it's always I always enjoy

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his concerts very much. And yes, this is my tr
M very sparkly. I think Michelle at Hal said something
somewhere in the comments that I was right. I'm right
about so many things I'm curious to somebody needs to important.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I'm sorry, you're what.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
It's true, I'm right about so many things, but I
just was, I mean, too many people.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Let's do a poll right now.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Are you.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Are you one of the many people that Rcelly you're
talking about? Do you think she's often right? Let us
know in the comments. I also love that Rcelly will
always make her way to the Hollywood Bowl, Yet we
can't get her to come to West Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
There there is a difference because I'm not hitting traffic
on the way to the ball.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
You're not hitting traffic on the way to the bowl.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
No, because I take the bus.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh, the Hollywood Bowl bus.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yes, yes, it takes you literally right there. M And
I get to bring my own snacks and I get
to bring my own booze. Nobody's overcharging me for things. Seriously,
if you're ever in the l LA area during the summer,
I can't say enough good things about a venue. If
you're if the venue you're going to let you bring

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in your own booze.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
This is not aid promotional.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
This is not a paid promotion, although that.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Won't give us anything. Now watch us get tickets to
the Hollywood Bowl and we can't get.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Before we take a deep tive into all things Salem
and RSEL. You may have noticed that Michael Madison is
not with us today because he's doing other stuff, So
shout out to Michael Madison MLM images. But we're here

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to talk about this week's episodes of Days, And speaking
of of, what did we think of this week's episodes
of Days?

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Actually, late this week, I thought we got some good movement. Yeah,
some definitely like movement on a particular story we've been
pitching and complaining about for a year now. I guess
so thankful for that and like things are moving along.
I thought it was a big improvement over the last
couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
M R. Sally definitely movement. I teetered on yay at
the beginning of the week, and by the end of
the week, I was like, all these hypocrites need to
shut up. Those are my main two opinions of the week.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I'm gonna have to be honest, y'all, and y'all know
I love this show with all my heart. Y'all know
I started this podcast for us to come and talk
about the show and you know, be real yet and
honest yet respectful because we know that so many people

(08:11):
put in hard work. However, comma, I think this week.
This week I had to have a talk with myself
and I said, I have to admit I'm bored.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I I watched you know, I can't even say, I
I it's the show is on, but I don't know
if i'm if it's if it's pulling me in. Because
even when I watched, you know, a few episodes earlier
in the week, and then I finished up today and

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as I pressed play, I was like, what happened this week?
And then I was just like, you know, I'm just
not I have to be honest and saying that I'm
not paying attention because nothing, I feel like, nothing is
pulling me in. To keep my attention. I just kind
of feel like if I if I miss something, it'll

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probably I'll figure it out later on in the episode
or or later on a different episode. But it's the pacing,
and I just feel like I'm just watching the same
stuff week after week.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I can understand that there's there's nothing super super exciting.
There's not like an end of the end of the
day or end of the week cliffhanger right now. So
I totally understand why you're saying that. I think I
just feel more comfortable and how days is writing right now,
because it feels it feels it feels comfortable. It feels comfortable,

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and I'm in my comfort zone and that's a nice
place to be where other places are like making me
want to rip my hair out or making me want
to rip somebody else's hair out.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, And I mean, I you know, soaps or soaps,
you know, and you know, it's it's a lot of work,
you know, it's a lot of decades, a lot of characters,
you know, having to keep people's interests with new stuff.
But I'm just like it feels like a struggle. It
feels like twenty fifteen The White Elephant, that's.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
A white elephant.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, yeah, it really feels like that. So let's take
a deeper dive into that, shall we. Yeah, and hopefully
I'm able to It is now time to start.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
A day.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, as close as close as it could be one day,
we'll actually record it, all right, everyone, Let's kick things
off with our first storyline, which is Babe Befiever. Oh
you got that, Babe Befiever. Ooh you got that, baby Befiever?

(11:23):
Got that, Babe Befiever. Okay, thank you me, world. Uh.
Aaron was channeling his inner Hulk with inviting Ari to
his room to play Xianald Blade. He was really filling it,
get it, filling it? Okay, show main character catchphrase. You

(11:44):
still don't get it?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
No one, Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
We'll get that. We'll get to that in a second,
but see, okay, I will say it's it's very interesting
that I stand so strongly with Sophia, even though she's

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in the wrong. I stand so strong next to her
only because I just feel like Tate Brady her mother.
No one has no idea except Melinda what she's going through. Yeah,
and for some reason, I just I know that she's lying.

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I know that she's covering up and things like that,
but I feel like it's what she's doing is justifiable
in a way, I.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
One hundred percent agree with you, Tony. However, in fairness
to members of our audience who disagree, and in fairness
to Justin who has tried to argue this point with me,
I did actively try to take a step back and
really look at the whole picture and really look at

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Tate's point of view and Brady's point of view, and
even Steve's point of view on this, because I do
I think that they all made valid points from their perspective.
And if I were involved in this situation and I
were advising these men on what they should do next, however,

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I shouldn't have to advise men on what to do
about what women doesn't do with their their bodies and
their babies. But I digress. My next question would then be,
you want to get to the truth. You want to
make sure that this baby is okay. That's all understandable.

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My next question would be, then, once you find out
the truth and you see that either the baby is
okay or you maybe you have an opinion on that
the baby is not okay. My next question would then be,
what then you find out the truth, you see where

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the baby has been placed this during this whole time,
you discover Sophia's decision making. What then? And that's where
I think there, that's where that's I think is my
sticking point in this whole thing, is that they're so
focused on that aspect that they're not thinking far enough ahead.

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And I'm like, okay, okay, but I want you to once,
once the dust settles and you find out everything there
is to know, because nobody can keep a secret, what
is your plan?

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think I think their whole approach could be different.
I think that if they suspect what they do, like
that they suspect that Sophia is lying, sit her down
and say, listen, we can only imagine that this is
probably a trying time for you, but we want to

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let you know that we as in Tate and Brady,
we want to be here for you, and some things
are just not adding up for us. So if there's
anything that you want to tell us about this situation,
please we are begging you tell us and allow them

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and allow Sophia to really just be vulnerable and say,
because we all know she had to make a decision,
because she didn't want the baby. She knows Tate didn't
want the baby, but her mother was going to push
for her to probably keep the baby if there was

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no adoption in place, so she made the decision to
drop it off safely at the fire station. But I
don't think anyone is taking and even though no one
knows that except Melinda, which thank god, she someone knows,
and maybe Sarah knows.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I think Sarah Sarah. Yeah, Sarah knows the whole story, right.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
But it's like mentally, physically, she's probably just going through
it and no one's really there for her. Because now
you have Tate, where's the adoption papers? Where's my baby?
Why'd you do the fuck? It's like, Tate, why don't
you take a second and think connect the dots if

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need be? She had she probably had the baby by herself.
There was no one there. She she she gave it.
Like there's so many things that she had to endure
by herself.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, Like even if even if the situation had been
what she told him it was that she gave birth
in Chicago with the adoptive parents, Even if that had
been the truth, the reality is that's still technically by herself,
that is absolutely no emotional No one in the room

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was there emotionally for her. And that is that is now.
That is the mentality that she has now been living
with for months and months and months. Nobody. Everybody says
that they're here for me, but nobody is actually here
for me in this situation. Nobody understands the very real
fear that I have been living with for months that

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I was never going to get my life back, and
that this baby was going to be forced to stay
with a mother who didn't want uh who who didn't
want to raise him. That's a real fear. Yeah, and
and and and Sophia said that again this week, and
Tae just kind of brushed it off.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's like, I want to see my baby. I wanted to,
but you're, oh, but you're a teen.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Oh but oh, but she wouldn't have been able to.
You don't know what would have been able to to happen,
because I guarante the people throw around that like it's
something grandparents are able to petition for custody of children.
It's happened plenty of times. It's that's a very that

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was a very real fear that Sophia had. Sophia did
not want her mother to step into that situation, and
they just blew right past that, as if that wasn't
a real fear, right.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Justin you've been quiet. What you got to say my my.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
For Sophia, I'll say, is waning or better, I'll say,
I think it's grossly misplaced. I everything you just said
makes sense in a situation of Sophia versus amy CHOI.
I don't think any of it makes sense in a

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situation of Sophia versus Tate Black. And I think we're
allowing Tate to be some sort of collateral damage because
of whatever pressure she's feeling from her mother, which I
think are real. And I loved it this week when
she did voice those concerns, because I do think those
are real. I don't understand how they transfer from amy

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CHOI forcing her to be a mother, which I one
hundred percent believe she would, or she would at least
pressure her to be a mother to keep the baby.
Totally get that. I understand Sophia versus mom amy CHOI
controlling mother, forcing me. I don't agree that Tate is
allowed to be collateral damage to that, And I don't

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understand all these other factors that really, to me, have
nothing to do with parentage. I think people are brought
up he has a girlfriend. People allowed to have girlfriends.
I don't know what that has to do with your
parental rights being taken away by someone. Tit and Sophia
are not married. It's not like he's forcing you know,
they're not under the same roof. If she doesn't want,

(20:28):
if she doesn't want her parental rights, I'm full agreement
of that. I don't think that now imparts on Tate's
ability and what I'm not hearing. What I'm not hearing
is their baby. I'm hearing it from her position of
it's her baby because she's the mother and she's the
gestational parent, which I respect. That doesn't that doesn't extend

(20:54):
past the birth of the baby. I'm sorry. I know
people think it does. It doesn't. That's not how our
country is run, it's not how parental rights work in reality.
I think in regards to her being the gestational period
gestational parent, excuse me, she is one hundred percent in
control of that situation and in control of her body

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and any decisions she wants to make. And I think
that's been respected by everyone except Amy CHOI, so I understand.
I still understand and agree with Sophia versus Amy CHOI.
I don't know how all of that baggage and that
stuff gets transferred over to Tate. I also don't like
I said. I don't agree he becomes collateral damage. It's

(21:37):
not her baby, it's their baby. And I think when
you recome when you come at it from that perspective,
I think you look at things differently. I think my
point in most of this, this ongoing conversation we've been
having since to start it, I think Steve sort of
I'm looking at it as all of the people who've
kept all of the parents who've kept children away from

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the other parent that we've seen examples on the show.
I think a lot of them we jump on board
with because they make sense. When Sammy was pregnant with
the twins and you want to keep them from dj
I e her rapist, we got along with that. Steve
made a great, a great reference of history when his
mother Joe gave or placed him in Jack because one

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parent was an abusive rapist who would most likely have
abused them. I can get behind all of those. I
don't I don't get behind this reasoning is not strong
enough for me to keep the baby from Tait. It's
just not I also think that last. I'll make this
last point, so.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I'm not rambling, no, no antique.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Whatever can come of whatever, whatever is going to come
from him seeing the baby, his choice and his right.
If he decides the baby is fine and he just
wants closure, cool, if he decides, you know what, I
changed my mind. I do want to be a parent,
a single parent, with the help and support of my
father and my grandmother and the rest of my family

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and all their money and everything that comes with that,
perfectly fine too. What he doesn't have a right to
is for Sophia to be a parent. I don't think
at any point he's ever said that or any point
and he's ever done that. So I'm not getting it.
I like I said, I understand her position versus her mother,
just I don't understand how Tate becomes collateral damage to that.

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I think he's being a bit annoying, but he's also
looking for the truth of his baby.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So you know what I think it is. I think
that maybe we are feeling that Tate has no general
concern for Sophia, and it's all about what he wants.
He wants to know where the child like, he like like,
I just feel like maybe I wasn't paying attention. I

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just feel like he hasn't had a moment of like
checking in with Sophia to make sure she's okay. And
it's this consistent where what happened to the baby? Who?
What's the address? I want to send a gift. I
want to see my baby. I want to It's it's
more so about his needs and what he wants and

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what he missed out on, rather than ever taking the
time to check in on her.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
And I'll expand on what Tony is is saying is
that you know, you said that Tate and his family
have been supported on Sophia, and to an extent that
is true. But I think that there's there's there's a
there's there's a difference in how it's done. Because saying

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you support someone and saying that you support their decisions
and you know, being there for appointments and everything is great,
but there is a step further than that in what
Tony mentioned earlier, and really just sitting down making a
point to sit down with someone and say I'm gonna

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I'm gonna sit here with no judgment, with only concern
and say whatever, some things are not adding up and
I'm not here to blame or shame you, but I
need to know if you're okay and if and if
everything is okay, and I'm not going to be upset

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or angry, it's you know that extra step. You know
that that's that because Sophia has been operating from a
place of fear and anxiety for months and months and
months and months, and telling someone that you support them
and actually taking that extra step, there's a difference. So
that's that's that's I think that's I think where we're

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feeling the disconnect with with Tatum a character where it's
like we're not we're not saying that he doesn't deserve
his parental rights, we're not saying that he didn't deserve
to be included in the decision. But it seems to
me that I think it just it just feels it
feels to all of us, to more of us than

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not that those extra steps And now I'm not just
saying Tate everybody in her life no one has taken,
but Melinda has taken that extra step to say, with
literally no blame, no shame, no judgment. Are you okay?
Is the baby okay? Everybody everybody else has said has

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has kind of said that and then followed it up
with but don't you think and don't you feel like it?
You should like And that was one of the first
things that I learned in my in my empathy training
is that when you follow up that kind of a
support with a butt, you froze the.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Middle of a point. You have to yeah. I hope
she realizes she froze, mm hmm. She's probably still talking
and not realize she froze.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I thought you guys, is that you.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
When you when you played yeah, when you when you
played this back, you'll realize you were like.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
You yes, yeah. So my point, my point is that
when you use that's it's literally it's one of the
things that they teach you when you're using communications training
is when you use the word butt or however and
when you're having a conversation when with someone, you completely
negate the argument that you were previously trying to make.
And so that's why I think we all feel the
disconnect in the people that are in this situation now.

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On the Brady and Steve side of it. Again, I
think their intentions are great, and it seems like they're
probably going to figure this out sooner rather than later.
And my and my I go back to my original argument,
which was, once you find out everything, what then.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I think that's you need to I think very honest
conversations are going to need to be had.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
But I don't think they know that information because they
haven't gone through the process of every every you know
what I mean, it started from a lie. Honestly, it's
hard for me to have sympathy for Sophia when you're
perpetrating a lie. So it's I don't I don't know
about quantifying tates, tats, empathy or sympathy for her when

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it's it's based on a lie.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
But yeah, I'm willing to give him actually more grace
to an extent at this point because because he's young,
Whereas I think that Brady and Eve, I think, especially
with Steve's history personal history with adoption and things like that,
and him knowing just how nuanced and how scary it

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can be for a mother to give up her own child,
that I think that they they as adults, need to
be a few steps ahead in this scenario and and
say to themselves that or make a path that whatever
whatever they find out, an honest conversation is going to

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be needed to had with Tate about what he really wants.
H Is it closure like he's been saying, or has
is has the situation gone so emotionally far that he
actually wants to be a parent and in that or
or or have a real honest of an adoption and

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that case And if that's the case, then he is
going to have to come to terms with the fact
that he is going to be the sole parent making
those decisions.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Oh yeah, totally yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, Well he's like, that's not.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Going to be fully invested. He's too busy humping Holly
in the dorm day one.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
And that well, I mean, and that's the thing is,
like we people say, like justin you said, like you
it shouldn't matter that he has a girlfriend. No, no,
And it shouldn't matter that he has a girlfriend. How
I'm not going and it shouldn't matter that he has
a girlfriend. And he's going to have to deal with

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the full reality of his life when the truth comes out.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
None of these none of these characters outside of a
handful of them that we can probably name would we
say are going to be amazing great parents off the start?
Everything is a gamble when you have a child, you
know what I mean. I don't know. I think Tate is.
I think Tate is as responsible and as irresponsible as
anybody else. But that has nothing to do with pulling

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his parential rights because you assume his focus is on
a girlfriend. Listen, listen, my focus is on men. I'll
tell you that if someone my baby showed up at
my doorstep, my focus would switch because now I'm a father,
So I you know, I don't I don't know what
any of that means. Really, I mean, listen if you.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Know, no, but it's you as an adult knowing that,
knowing the difference where it's like we just collectively think
that Tate isn't really like his mind has not really
adjusted to that. His mind is very much split on them.
He thinks that he can put one part of his

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life in one box and one part of his life
in another box. And that's just when you have a child,
that it just everything else not does not disappears, but
your life focuses in.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
I think that's him, and that's most of Americans, quite
and quite honestly, most parents.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I wish I could say that about I wish that
I could say I could say that about Brady, but
I can't.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
I think he's as clueless and as intelligent as most parents,
whether he's eighteen or twenty eight or I know lots
of grown adults who probably should not have children. But
it's not my right. It's not my right to take
their parental rights away because I think they're going to
be silly, or they're going to be an experience.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Like I don't know.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
I think there are people where we reserve that right
to people who are harmful or people who are destructive people.
I don't think that. I think Tait's a silly teenager,
but that has nothing to do I don't know. I
don't make the connect between him his attention being with
Holly or his attention being at school. I think you

(32:46):
work it out. If that's what his choice is. Maybe
his choice isn't that. Maybe it's choices. I just want
to see my baby. I want to Sometimes it's just
I want the truth, and sometimes someone said the chat
the truth does matter.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
It doesn't matter, I mean, sure, but it's how you
go about it.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, I think there.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Just hasn't been any There just hasn't been any concern
about Sophia. It's all about what he wants and and
and what he needs and not considering the fact. And
I know that we're as viewers, we know this, not
considering the fact that like she gave birth by herself,
she made this decision by herself, like.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
That we're having this problem with it's the how.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
But honestly, go ahead, what concern And I'm being honest,
I'm not talking about just empathy. What concern does he
owe Sophia versus his own his own stuff? Do you
know what I'm saying? Like Sophia is not his wife?
Like do you know what I'm saying? Though, not just
concerned for her? Like like people are like, oh, you

(33:53):
should get over it. No, he's a parent, it's his
Like I'm trying to connect the dots between her her
situation trumping his rights. That's I guess That's what I'm
really having an issue with.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
But that's but the thing is, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on. But but that's the thing is that
is that there is a care right even though even
if they're not together, they're not a couple, they're not married,
there there is still like a friendship and a care
and a connection that that two people have when you

(34:28):
make someone else. Right. And we saw, we saw how
close they got throughout their the pregnancy and how they
really stayed on on one page. Right, It wasn't until
she gave birth and she had to make this decision

(34:50):
on on on what to do right that, and and
she couldn't and and I think she was also in
this state of I think also just going back a
little bit, there was a moment where she knew also
his interests didn't lie with the baby one hundred percent

(35:15):
because he was also concentrating on being with Holly. So
if we think back to the day that she gave birth,
and and you know, she she did all this stuff,
you know, basically by by herself. Oh sorry, I'm thinking
of the wrong timeline. And then it wasn't until like
a couple of days later where where he was just

(35:39):
like she could give birth any minute, Oh I'm going
to go to the lake. Like this man was still
just like living his life. Oh, that was the other
part of it. She eventually had to be bedridden, missing
senior year stuff, missing you know, prom and and all
all these important things in life while he was still

(36:03):
able to to enjoy life. So cut to her having
the baby and having to make this decision. I think
in that moment she was like, none of us want this,
and there's no way in the world I can reveal

(36:23):
that I now have this baby in hand, I have
to make a decision. That decision was to take that
baby safely to the fire station, pretend like she's pregnant,
devise a plan to where when he goes to the lake,
I'm at like, I go to Chicago and have the baby,
a doubled adoption. So that way, it's like clear, right,

(36:46):
was that right?

Speaker 5 (36:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Because yes, justin she was taken away like his right
and his you know, decision of wanting to maybe just
see the baby, hold the baby one time, right, But
in that instance, she was just like, don't nobody want
this kid. This kid is gonna get in the way
of life. Let me just deal with this. But when

(37:11):
all is said and done, no one sat Sophia down
and said, how are you just with the simple fact
that she had this baby, Like, even even not knowing
what we know, she had this baby in Chicago by herself. Yes,

(37:33):
and according to her with a family that's you had
the baby ready to take it, but no one, no
one took a moment to be like are you okay?
Like how like do you need to talk to someone?
Do you need to go see Marlena. There's postpartum depression

(37:53):
that happens with pregnancy and stuff that There's a lot
of things that I only know because I'm I'm that
I've heard of it because I'm not a woman. That
affects a woman once they give birth. But all we
keep seeing is Tate just being like, I want to
know this, I want to know this information. I want

(38:14):
to and.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
And you just hit it right on the head Tony.
That where I completely disagree with one of justin points
that like I I will, I will you know, bend
to a couple of your points, Justin, But the fact
that you said earlier in the show, like characterized Sophia
as an a gestational character, I want one hundred percent
disagree on that, because when you make a baby with someone,

(38:38):
if you then say okay, I'm going to go with
this pregnancy with you, he could have washed his hands
of the situation from the beginning, and I would say, Okay,
you're out, You're out. Okay, that's totally totally valid. But
he chose to go through this pregnancy with Sophia from
that point on. Yes, he had to care about emotional state,

(39:01):
and he was right there. I give him credit. He
was right there, up up, up, up up up until
the few weeks before when she started having those false
labors and she kept telling him, I'm getting nervous, I'm
I feel with such anxiety it's bringing on false labor.
At that point, he should have stepped up and said, Okay,
let's get this done now so you don't have to

(39:22):
worry about this when the baby is born. Instead, he
was just kind of he was just floundering and again
and he and he's a kid. I get it, you know,
part part of me gets it. But you can't have
a baby with someone, agree to go through the pregnancy
with them and just check out, check in and check

(39:43):
check in and check out at your leisure. It doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Half it was half out, for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
It doesn't work like that. And it has it has
nothing to do with Holly. It has I'm going to
take a completely outit equation. It has nothing to do
with his relationship with Holly because I know plenty of
people who that's the case, or they have different partners.
When they have they have you know, people grow and
grow apart. Whatever. Has nothing to Dolly Hollywood Brown Conspersus

(40:10):
is completely out of the situation at that point, has
nothing to do has nothing to do with her. It's
him and the fact that he was half in half
out emotionally.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
So I think if I'm going with you, I think
you call him an asshole, and you criss him out,
and you scream and him. I don't know if that
translates to I control your parental rights. That's what I'm saying.
I I it doesn't translate that to that. To me,
it translates if if if I agree with you wholeheartedly here,
I think he's a stupid kid, he needs to be

(40:43):
screamed at, he needs to be what, whatever the case
may be, whatever name you want to call him. It
doesn't translate to I take you, I control your parental rights.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
For me, and I can I can agree with that.
I think I can agree with that.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I think it's very much like Sophie looking at him,
like girl, you you have not been concerned that concerned
about this baby? Why why don't you just forget it.
Here's the answer that you want. The baby went to
a loving family, and I know that for sure. Good day.
I think internally that's what Sophia ultimately wants to say,

(41:19):
like you were so concerned about everything else, like we
didn't want this to be a hindrance in our life.
It is no longer have a good day.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
And you know what, when all of a sudden done,
maybe that's what they need. Maybe maybe maybe maybe that's
where this needs to head, where they just have a
one on one, just full out confrontation. I actually think
now that I say, I think that's necessary. Just get it,

(41:50):
get it all out, to get it, all the cards,
all your emotions, just splay them all out.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Should I give Should I give Sophia another monologue to say?
But back to.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
I feel like the issue still is with the mom.
The concern is still the concern is still I will
be forced to raise this child. And again it's not
coming from Tate. It's still coming from the mom. Even
if I agree with you and I go one hundred
percent with what you're saying about Tate's wrong in the pregnancy,
of the of the duration of the pregnancy. If I

(42:27):
even if I go with you, which I'm not saying
one hundredsent agree, but I'm going with that. The threat,
that is the actual threat is still coming from the mom.
It's not coming from Tate, nor has she expressed that
it will would come from Tate. She's not saying if
Tate had the baby, Tate would force me to be
the mother.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Of I think no, I think what she's no, I
see your point on that, and actually what I think
it is and I think what she's not saying is
that Tate wouldn't stand up for Sophia with her mother,
with her mother during the pregnancy. So I think I
think what she's not saying is, how can I trust

(43:10):
that he is going to stand by my side and
make it make in front of my mother and say firmly,
you have no rights here. I think that. I think
I think that might be another one. Again, she's acting
from a place to fear. I think that's a genuine
fear that she has that he is just that he

(43:34):
will go along to get along, which is kind of
what he did during most of the pregnancy. Because remember
Brady was the one who had to step in in
the beginning and put his foot down with missus Choyan
saying these two kids are not getting married.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Wait, I'm trying to understand what you're saying. You're saying
that if if Amy forced her to keep the baby,
you're saying Tate would like.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Join if Amy well, Amy, well, well, I mean legally,
Amy can't force Sophia to keep the baby, so that's
partially true, but she would do her level best to
hinder the situation. So then if that's the case and
Sophia wants out, then it's up to Tate, and solely
on Tate to have the strength of character to put

(44:17):
his foot down with missus CHOI in front of her,
in front of a court of lot, in front of
anyone who will listen, and say, I am willing to
fight for the rights of this child, whether that be
I keep the child or whether that be I make
sure that this child has absolutely no contact with the grandmother.
And he needs to have the strength of character to
step up and do that. And I and I suspect

(44:39):
that Sophia doesn't think that he has that.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
It seems a weird roundabout way too, because it it
sort of invalidates that if you take the baby away
to begin with, so it's I mean, it's it's sort
of like you you know, it's like me saying you
were I think Arocelli would do this, but you also
not giving that person the chance to, so it it

(45:04):
strengthens your point.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
I think he I know, I think he had the
chance to. I think he had the chance to every
step of Sophia's pregnancy when he was just kind of
going along to get.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Along with Amy, I thought he was always no.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
No, there's but like like again, there's not. You don't
have to agree with someone outright or disagree with someone outright.
But he was just kind of like, oh, I'm not
going to make waves. I'm gonna kind of put her off.
And that was the thing everybody kept putting off, putting
off Misschoy and say and and and and capitulating to

(45:41):
what Amy Troy wanted in terms of a parent. And
I think that that was probably the starting point of
where this all went wrong, where they both were going
along to get along with Amy's definition of what a
proper parent was going to be instead of banning together
and saying this is our child, this is these are
the kind of parents that we want, and this is

(46:04):
the decision that we are going to make And since
neither one of them did that, and neither one of
them feels that they are in a position to do that,
this is the mess that we're left in.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
The whole situation was buddled from the beginning, and Sophia
was getting it from everywhere. She had Tate, but she didn't.
I think at some point in the pregnancy she also
realized Tate is trying to live his life. She made
a decision that she thought was best for her, the baby,
and everyone around her, and all she's now trying to

(46:36):
do is protect that decision. Period. That's it. We've been
talking about this for like thirty five forty minutes, yes,
and at the end of the day, that's just what
it is. She made a decision based on everything that
she had been going through up until this point and
everything that she has realized up until this point, and

(46:59):
when the baby popped out without the plan in mind,
she had to set something in motion. And I don't
think she felt like she could depend on Tate because
Tate was his His thought, his thoughts were elsewhere. It
wasn't with her.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
And we've been discussing this for so long that we
completely forgot about the actual baby. I apologize for not
actually because I thing that we forgot about the actual baby.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Little Tea is fine. Little Tea is over there eating
Grandmama's tortillasu and and living his best life with Hobby
and Leo is fine.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, let's very quickly talk about let's very quickly talk
about baby Tea, who currently Sophia's parntal rights by law
have been taken away. So no matter what happens here,
she don't she don't get to come back for him.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Well, she had two weeks to go back for him,
but she was she wasn't. She wasn't gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yes, So so that that part's done. Now he's with Hobby,
and Hobby is we got finally got backstory. Hobby is
looking into adopting Theo, and I guess at one point
he had a daughter who passed away.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Right, yeah, we will get but see here's but here's
the thing in true days fashion, when I sat up
and was like, they just did away with it, and
I'm like I get it. So, so are we gonna
come back to this in a month?

Speaker 3 (48:30):
No no, no, no, no, it's like next week.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
But still it's like it's like, get like girl, because
it was it was months ago that we saw the
picture of him and and it's now months later that, oh, yeah,
I had a baby girl and she died okay, And
then a few months later he's gonna tell Leo I

(48:55):
had a baby girl and she died. Okay.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
We didn't get that and we just didn't get that
information because it was in front of Melinda. And I
think we're going to get that information when he tells
Leo which food which is going to be Sue? Yeah,
because he wants he if he wants to keep the
baby and he wants to raise a baby with Leo,
then yeah, he's going to have to have an honest
conversation about his past totally.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
You know. Yeah, Yeah, I feel like it's gonna I
feel like there was some sort of negligence there and
unintentional of course, that the baby died. And that's why
he doesn't want because it's not just that he had
a baby, it's that the baby died in there's sort
of there's some sort of criminal history there, whatever that is.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I think the SIDS, that's a very real thing, but.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
I don't think he would be scared of them. Finding
that out, I feel like.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Oh, yeah, you know what I mean, Like, I don't
think it's it's it's it's it's it's not a criminal thing.
I think it's that parents whose babies die of SIDS.
That's the number one thing is that they blame themselves.
They think that they you know, they they you know,
they blame themselves for being bad parents. Why did this happen?
You know, when it's like it's it's very just random.

(50:09):
There's no you know, there's no blame in that.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
But I feel like and this is like like I
wish they would tell the actors what's to come, because
then I feel like you can play things a little
bit differently and better because now knowing that he had
a baby that died, I think his interaction with with

(50:37):
Tosto would be different. Does that make sense? Yeah, Like
I feel like right now it's like, oh my god,
this cutest thing was dropped off at the fire station
and there's and needed a home, and so I decided,
you know what I mean, Like it feels like that
versus like not this obsession, but but this like almost

(51:00):
extra care for the baby or maybe nervousness of of
of bringing the baby home because of what happened before,
Like you know what I mean, Like it's just like
like sometimes it's like it's like because then yeah, yeah,
because then once we find out, we'd be like, are
you just comfortable having a baby in the house? Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Uh that being said a show of hands. Who actually
wants Chanell to adopt the baby?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
We didn't even talk about that. I'm still I'm still
trying to I'm still trying to figure out how Johnny
just gotten off a trial for potential murder got two jobs.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, Like with all the stuff that's going on with
Johnny and Chanel, I just I looked at that scene
of her looking all excited at the baby announcement, and
I'm like, oh, not again, No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
No no, IMR Well, I think I.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
I think I think she needs to go talk to
Johnny and they need to together and whatever that outcome
is moving forward. I think I think before Johnny showed regret,
I think we were all on board with them adopting
a baby. I don't think there was any concerns about
them being parents. So I think if whatever wherever Johnny's

(52:22):
at in his life, the trial is over, they seem
to be stable. You know, whatever comes from that, I wouldn't.
I'm not opposed to it. If they're on board as
a couple to wanting the baby, then you know, fair
shot for them versus anyone else who wants a baby.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
But they need to breathe, They need to breathe. They
just first of all, they got they you was going
to adopt the baby. You decided not to. That broke
that almost broke up y'all's relationship. Y'all got back together.
Johnny went to trial. Now the trial is over. Let

(52:58):
family talk is not on the table right now. What's
on the table right now is creating a stable household
for them and then keep it moving.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Yeah, but then like, don't don't jump steps. Stop. That's
my thing, whole thing with the with this whole baby
thing with them. You keep jumping steps like, oh, we're
just gonna It's not let's have a sit down discussion
about whether we're ready for parenthood. It's I see that baby,
let's go adopt it. That one right there.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, I think that alcohol is sitting in.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Oh no, the trust me. This is yeah. I would
still say.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
That and shout out to Ms Patsy who went along
with Melinda's uh playing in time. She said, baby, I
got you, mm hmm, I got you, honey.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
All right, the Melina has friends, well, yeah, in.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
The places she needs them. Are we We're we're done
talking about babies, right, I mean, that's been the show. Everybody,
Thank you guys so much. All right, let's move on
to the next storyline, which is minigolf.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Yahoo. Now the alcohols. I got my wish.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Yeah, finally a year and two months later or three months.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
The thing about it, the thing about it is, I'm
not even excited because I'm just like and then now,
y'all are so concerned that Rachel saw y'all kids, which
Rachel did see you kids, but Rachel just told mar
Lena and didn't make a big y'all are making a
big deal out of it, and you decide to have
a heart to heart about everything, which great. I'm glad

(54:59):
you guys for getting back on the same page. But listen,
here's the thing. At this point, we know why she
had to pretend to be Abigail. Everybody, get over it.
She was apologetic. She is sorry, she did what she
had to do. Poor her family. She's sorry. Let's move on.

(55:23):
If Chad. If you like her, then' like her. Cad.
If you like him, then like him. But damn it,
y'all need to move forward quickly because this y'all are
too grown to be passing notes to each other. Do
you like me? Yes the no, Yes, he likes you.

(55:45):
Felicity told you that nine months ago. Yeah, get it together.
I'm not excited like at this point. I just just
be together, just start dating, just start doing. And then nigga,
well we got to do in the secret because the
family in the words an excuse you give me, excuse
me mom for saying this, but in the words of

(56:06):
Terry from Soul Food, oh fuck the family.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Finishing to.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
You know, the family fucked my husband, Faith fucked my husband.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Damn like you sure you sure you haven't had anything?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
I haven't. I'm just y'all. I'm telling y'all that the
pacing of this show is driving me enough, which is
what like, Actually, my mom texts me and she was like,
stop looking down and stop hanging out so late, because
you look tired and you're not paying attention. And I
and I think that's another thing I had to say,
is that I'm just it's boring, like like, there are

(56:54):
moments where I come in and I'm very excited and
I want to talk and I want to do a
deep dive and everything like that. But then there are
moments where I'm like, we have been saying the same
thing every week.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
I will say, Tony, I feel like there's scenes. This
week had some a little more spark now that they
were leaning into being affectionate with each other. So I
like that. I like that where we're moving away from
the do we like each other? Do we don't? Like?
I feel like that's behind them now now I feel like,
what what? What obstacles they're facing are far more interesting

(57:25):
the tension with Jack and Jennifer. The tension or the
tension with the Hortons is one the fact that Kat's
working for EJ, not only just Chad, and I like
it just because it's EJ. But we know he doesn't
know the real reason she's there to investigate his family,
which he wouldn't like anyway.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
I like.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
I like the emphasis on the Green family this week.
I like that they brought up Ark again, which.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Was really good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Yeah, So I'm actually interested in in this coupledom versus
what they're up against I think it's interesting at least now.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Yeah, and that the Mark part of it, to me,
I think was really intriguing because it really it really
puts them not on opposite ends, I don't think, but
it really puts Chad in a position of really having
to hone in on his personal on on just just

(58:17):
how he feels. Yeah, because he knows that whatever decision
he makes, he it can't be what the Hortons want,
and it can't be what Cat wants. It has to
be what what he himself feels comfortable with. The only
difference is Cat's probably gonna respect whatever decision he makes.

(58:39):
The Hortons are not.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Here's here's the other thing too, when they were talking
about him coming up for parole and you know, being
excited about potentially him like you know, maybe getting out
and that everyone like, and then Jack and Jennifer were
talking about how they had to write a letter and

(59:03):
basically wanted to keep him in there. I'm just like,
people in Salem have done far worse. Why is it
that the Hortons are always the people who seem to
hold onto things tighter than they need to let that

(59:23):
boy out of jail. Yes, he did a lot of
crooked things. But and at this point, I we we
may have to review them. Oh yeah, because it's been
so long we've done forgot. So I just wanted it
just like.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
You had to do it because they think people forgot.
I think they and they reminded us that he's not
in jail for trying to kill Jack Chad. That's not
what he's in jail for, which I know. He's in
jail for switching the paternity results, which I was like,
oh shit, I got fourteen months for that, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Like, do you know how many people would be in jail?
Sammy will still be in jail she don't switch the
paternity death.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
I also say, I'll say this, tonyo, I think there's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
To me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
I don't have a problem if they're angry at people
or they're mad. I think it's insisting that everyone else
be mad, you know what I mean. I feel like
their own feelings are their own. So I think if
Jennifer I think she's I think they should all forgive
Kat just in general, but I also reserve their right
to hate her. First longest, I think one of the
greatest things that I always loved, and this is digging

(01:00:30):
from the past that like Lucas always hated Daniel no
matter the fact that he was Maggie's son, because Daniel
had an affair with his wife and no amount of
you know, to forgiveness or kumbaya up until the day
Daniel died. Lucas hated his guts and I was okay
with that, you know what I mean, Like I don't
think he should run around town getting everyone else to

(01:00:51):
hate him, but I was totally fine with Like they
never repaired that or never made Lucas come to some
sort of forgiveness for Daniel. It was always I hate
this motherfucker peaks up with my wife, ruined my marriage,
and I hate him, and that was it. Like I'm
okay with that. It's it's the righteousness of telling Chad
who he should date or telling other people who they

(01:01:12):
should be involved in. That part I think is too far.
But if they want to hate Kat or Mark, I
think that's okay too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Yeah, But but it just feels like this situation like
there should be healing from that. Was Was it messed
up that she pretended to be Abigail? Yeah? Absolutely, But
also people have pretended to be other people many times
using a using a whole mask. They pretended to be
other people, right, and and it's but. But the thing

(01:01:41):
about it is I could see them being upset if
she did it in a way to gain money, to
get in with their family, some sort of almost like
like how Gwen was when when she first came, just
trying to get in and get back. That would be

(01:02:01):
one thing. But she did it because she had to
save her mother from Clyde. And no one is taking
the moment to be like Clyde. We get it, we understand.
That would be like when when Stephano was around and
you had to do something because Stephano ordered you to,

(01:02:26):
and then them to being mad like, well, you didn't
have to do what Stephano wanted you to do. It's
stephan no, m M, what do you want me to do?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I do think though, there's a part of them that
feels like you had support to ask for help or
to find a different way. And I think that was
the point in the beginning, from him or from anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
She didn't know those people.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
She didn't know them, To be fair, she knew that
when she's manipulating them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
So when she was, yeah, she she got to know
them as as she she cultivated the plan and then
got put into the scenario. She got to know them, yes,
but but but still in the in the initial thing
she know them, she did like she didn't have anyone
to go to to be that she could trust to be. Like,

(01:03:19):
so I'm in this situation. I am not Abigail.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
It's it's it's a it's an awful situation, yes, but
like girl, it's it's like y'all, come on, she has
you you you now have all the facts. You have
all the facts like at some point forgever. She didn't
do it with ill intent. She did it. She had

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a choice. It was either her family or y'all's. Yes,
she chose hers because she know yea, she said, they'll
be all right. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
I don't care if they forgive her, because honestly, I
don't think that she needs their forgiveness. She knows what
she did was wrong, but she knows that she didn't
do it for selfish reasons. So I don't think I
think she needs to stop apologizing at this point, because
she's apologized as much as she needs to. The real
thing is that Chad needs to set some boundaries, which

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he started to. He did great with Julie setting that
boundary of like, I'm not going to try to change
your opinion, but you also need to respect mine. And
that's the same boundary he needs to start setting with
everybody else. And if Chad doesn't want to forgive Mark,
that's also his right too. If he's in a position
where it's like I'm never gonna really you know, feel

(01:04:49):
comfortable around this guy and never really want to trust
him that he's gonna be okay, if he wants to
set boundaries where that's concerned, and even if he wants
to speak up and and deny his parole, that's one
hundred percent is right. That to me is him, that's
him setting a boundary. It's not saying I'm never going
to forgive him and I'm going to continue to blame
him for the end of time, or saying or trying

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or trying to do what his in laws are doing
and tell Kat that her brother is a terrible person. Yeah,
he's just setting his own boundaries, which is what he
should be doing. And I firmly believe that if he
if he says that, and if he is honest with
Kat and says I don't feel comfortable with him being out.
I think she'll be disappointed, but I think that she'll understand.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
Yeah. Also, well else play. I'll say this, I think
he made a great point when he said it wasn't
or trying to like talk to Cat about it. It
was like, it wasn't just the attempt. It's also the
fact that my wife has been killed the other parent.
I'm the surviving parent for my children and I was
almost killed. Like it's it's a different layer and it's

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a different understanding than oopsie, you know you did something wrong.
So yeah, like I said, it's if he doesn't want
to forgive Mark, then cool, that's fine too. But he
doesn't have a right to like dictate anything to Cat, like, oh,
you know, Mark doesn't need to be here or Mark
like you can't control that. That's that's the same thing
Julie is trying to do to you that you put

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your foot down up, which was great, But.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Yeah, let the boy out of jail.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
I don't think it should be out of jail though.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, okay, Well, and it was great to
see the interaction between you know, that's that's a plus
that days is doing is you know, we are getting
a lot of interaction with family and with people and
things like that. Great. So it was great to see
Tate and Aaron, you know, hanging out again after their

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whole summer flip flopped debacle.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
And with their siblings and everyone just.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Has Rachel and Felicity and yeah, yeah, all right, Well
after getting a hole in one, let's uh move over
to some anger management, shall we with I can't, I can't,
I can't which which?

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Okay? Which which part? Specifically? Are can you not with?

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
I thought this was a bad and for people. This
is the Xander, Philip, Gabby Marlena sort of Tony situation.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
We're talking about, why do y'all fill the need to
discuss things that we that you already know was there
was there was there any any reason for Xander and
Philip to bring up the fact that the let the
letter was a forgery. No, they did that because the

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pen was recording and they needed Gabby to hear it.
And now I'm sitting here like, great, now she knows, great,
Now she's going to tell Tony great. But now she's
in this dilemma because she slightly has a crush on
Xander and Philip, and it's just like, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
But she doesn't have any significant personal attachment to either
one of them yet to risk her career for them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Gabby, you have a thriving career. Though you don't have
to be CEO. You are CEO of Gabby she You
don't have to be CEO of Titan Demara. You don't
have to be that. Like girl, you got your own company,
you got your own email address, you got your own
dealings with your own company. You want to you want

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to now be over everything because if you're over, if
you're over Titanedamara, guess what, You're not gonna have time
for Gabby she.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
I kind of understand that in the sense of, like if, if,
and if these two companies are going to be the
parent company to my business and it seems like she
can't get out of these contracts or whatever. We're just
going with that. I guess it ensures Gaby Sheik will

(01:09:21):
always be there if she's in charge of the parent company,
which I kind of get. And she's ambitious and she's
had to mirror before and it was taken from her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
And you know, then Gabby be the smart businesswoman that
you are, and you walk into that office with Philipp
and Xander after, you know, showing them a little leg
and taking it right back and let them know. I
don't care what happens to Titan, Demyra Gabby Sheek will
always be write that down. But you're trying to be

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CEO and do all just like And for two seconds
I thought she was gonna have a heart. She did
the flashback of her and Xander, she did the flashback
of her and Philip, and then she she just couldn't
call Tony. But then she decided, Oh, I'm gonna just
tell you in person.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
But though, like, why would she have a heart or
is that having a heart? Like she has no loyalty
to She has more loyalty to the Mirrors than she
does to Phillip and Xander.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Yeah this is yeah she yeah, okay, okay, So she
kissed Xander one time, she slept with Philip one time.
That doesn't equate to any kind of loyalty to them.
She has a contract with Tony. That's it. That's at
least on paper, that's worth more.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
I don't, I don't it is. It's not you know,
a longing for or a loyalty to them. But it's
like it's like, if you think about your business again,
you gained control of Gabby She to where no matter
what you ari, your company will be fine. You didn't

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have to bring Tony wants nothing to do with Titan
de Mira and it's kind of using you as around
about to be involved in Titan Demera. But you don't
have to be the CEO of that. You be the
CEO of Gabby She And if Titan de Mirror goes down, baby,

(01:11:26):
you now now you're gonna take it to I don't know,
but you can start Hernandez Incorporations.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Well that's the interesting part because he doesn't want Titan.
He just wants De Mirror back. He's not taking over
both companies. What, he's just getting de Mira back. What
Tony wants it for his family's company company, but.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Don't nobody wants but nobody in the fuck the family.
I don't want it either.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
He's a bad guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
You guys were worried about me. Jeez.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Today Kristen has had the company, ej has had the company.
Johnny don't want the company, Chad don't want to be
a part of it. Tony doesn't want to be a
part of it. That's why the Mirror Enterprises ended up
with Titan.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Well, he says he doesn't. We'll see if there's some
ulterior motives there, then he is a bad guy here.
I actually liked the competition between the businesses. I think
this is what we've always wanted with them to like
have genuine business storylines from back when they had them
in the nineties. Yeah, I don't think there's like a
bad I don't think like Tony's bad for wanting the

(01:12:42):
company back or finding, you know, trying to take it back.
I don't think Gaddy's bad either. She's going with what
makes sense for her and she's ambitious.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
There's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Be ambitious with your own stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
That is not how ambition works. This It is no
And I even don't think that there's a bad guy
in the whole. Xander versus Philip uh this week. I
thought they both had a really great conversation this week
until he choked.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Yeah. I was like, why would you reveal that? Just
keep that to yourse. Even if you did it, I
was like, why reveal it? Keep it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Up until that point.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Yeah, But again, I don't think don't even get me
started on this situation because I still don't should have happened.
Calm down, Mom, I'm quoting. I'm quoting soul Food.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Yeah, he's just he's an acting. He's acting, Mama, war.
He can't be playing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Also, there's a part of me that wants to be
like I'm forty two, but I can't because because you know,
I can play. But here's the thing though, okay, this
is this is a side note. This is a side note.
This is a generational thing. Even at my age, my
my I still have healthy fear of my mother because

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my mother is an authority in my life right even
though I'm grown. But that's that's the problem with this
younger generation. They don't they they you know, they don't.
They don't fear their parents because they want to be
best friends with their parents. My mama always said, I
ain't one of your low friends, even though low key.

(01:14:37):
She is the person that I can go to that's
going to be there. But she had to establish that
that like, first and foremost, I am your mother, and yeah,
but she will also still knock the doctors out of
me if if I if I act up, you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Know, you know how you're you become a healthy best
friend with your child. You raise them the right way
to be the kind of person that you would want
to hang out with. Yes, if you don't want to
hang out with your kid when they're older, that means
that there's something wrong there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
This shoot and okay anyway, sorry side no back to
days anyway. Like the whole the whole situation is muddled
to me because again I still don't feel like Xander
should have beat Philip to a pulse, Like like, I like, see,
I told you see, I already got her started exactly,

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But I like, like that whole situation is just muddled,
and I feel like right now, like they they can
just do great work together and I and my hope
is this that they figure out that it was Gabby
and that they just work together to make sure that
the company is good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Yeah, I wouldn't mind that. I'm I'm up for some
like Demera versus Titan.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I'm up for that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Whatever you know, and for me, it's good. It's good
if you switch sides of you know, this week you're
with Tony and Gabby and next week you're with Xander
and Philip. Like, I'm all for it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Well, also like and im and I know this is
a soap and it's supposed to be soapy and drama
or whatever, but it's like, why here's here's another plan.
Why not just have a meeting with Xander and and
and Philip to just run like you you YouTube can

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be co CEO of the Titan side of things. I
will be CEO of the Demera side of things. Because
you got you got to you got two companies. Anybody
can't do everything.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
They don't want that. I think they figured there's two
people under Titan will be fine. I wouldn't. I'm not
giving Gaddy any of my company. That's yeah, they would
give you some of my company. I have bloody like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
What, Yeah, they wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Well don't know the marijuana except Tony.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
And then to the people who are saying, like Xander
is ruined, why they make him such a bad guy.
I I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you people. Xander
is not the bad guy. Xander has made some poor
choices as of late. Philip recognizes that Xander has made

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some poor choices. Philip also recognizes that he has made
some poor choices, and the difference here is that Philip
has spent much more extensive time in therapy than Xander has,
which is why he is very encouraged to see Xander
in therapy with Marlena, and why we should all be

(01:18:02):
sitting down and paying attention to those scenes that Xander
has with Marlena because she's actually getting to some route issues. Yeah,
and we should be encouraged by that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Yeah. I love the way they had Xander express the
stuff with Sarah and Philip. I was like, even though
we knew it and we heard it, having him express
it to a neutral party, I think was a really
good way to go, and to have him sort of
I think up until this point he's been he's kind
of doing the therapy mostly for Victoria, even though I

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think a part of him recognizes he needs help, but
he's been fighting that part and I think he's I
think Marlena will help him get to that point where
it's not just about Victoria and yeah, you should do
it for your kid, but also for yourself, and I
think he's I think if he continues with this, which
hopefully does, he'll get that. But I thought those seems
were really well done.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
And look at how much calm he was coming out
of that session with mar Lena. You know that his
tone was definitely different, and you know, from one conversation,
you know, from the conversation he had with Philip to
before Marlena to after way different. You know, it didn't
take away the anger completely, but his tone was more level.

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He was able to actually think clearly, having actually expressed
those emotions, and not be immediately judged for them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
I tell you this, though, Marlena tired of everybody. She's like,
I'm sick of carrying everybody's secrets. I'm tired y'all are
leaving me restless.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I did laugh, young and restless when.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
He revealed what Sarah did, and but Laina was just
kind of like, oh, okay, maybe maybe things are a
little bit more even keeled there. I thought that was
interesting because her and Sarah have been getting so close,
so it was a little bit of like, you know,
Sarah's not so innocent here, Marlena.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Yeah, And I think that that that that definitely helps
Marlena and her treatment of Xander because she's able to
see the full picture of like, oh, here's Xander expressing
himself honestly and trying to work to take accountability, and
I've only been getting one side of it. Now I'm
getting both sides.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
He made sure not to reveal beating up Phillup, which
I was like, Okay, you're kind of you know, you're
kind of teetering the line there, but okay, we'll go
with it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
Yeah, yeah, all right, we've been just pounding away and stuff,
haven't we.

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with Salem. You everybody going to college.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
I know about you guys, but I actually enjoyed this
little like I don't know, there was something like wholesome
and something about it of like sending the kids off
to college and the parents going and you know, helping
you move your stuff in. I don't know, I just
got like a weird like kick out of this little
this little section here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
It's a fun dynamic that we're heading into.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, they tried the
high school years with the last blast and instead of
doing it with this glad, It's like, let's just do
it in college. Yeah, so this feels like saved by
the bill to college of years.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
No, I was just gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
That, but them dorm rooms are big.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
Yeah somebody, Yeah, who is it who said that the
dorm rooms are tiny? I'm like, that is what you
considered tiny?

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Yeah, they weren't tiny, definitely. No, I remember when huge,
but they weren't tiny.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
When I when I went to college, I could I
could lay in my bed. My my roommate's bed was
literally right across from mine, but if I stood up,
I took two steps and I could be in his bed.
Like that's how Yes, yeah, that's how small the rooms were.
There was one year, though, or like two years where

(01:23:23):
the room had bunk beds and I was in the
bottom bunk my roommate was at the top bunk, and
that that gave us more room in our room because
I would like rehearse dances and stuff in the room.
But but dorm rooms were not We're not big at all. Also,
the I remember the concept of being like because I

(01:23:45):
didn't know anyone from my high school or like any
of my friends were going to the same college, so
I was just like just put me in the room
with someone, And now looking back, I'm like, I just
trusted the school to put me in right with someone,
And it was this anticipation of like, Okay, one of
us is gonna get there first, someone is gonna get

(01:24:07):
their second, Like who's gonna be into Like are they
gonna be cool? Are they gonna like, well.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Luckily mmate beforehand, because for us they are. My college
did it where they told us our roommate was, but
they gave us each other's contact information, so we talked. Yeah,
we met each other.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Yeah, I met them that day.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
I believe I did. Because we had to configure like
who was gonna for the room, yeah, to divide everything
up evenly. And that first year was an experience.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Mine were great. I'm still good friends with my college
roommate and then my broader sense the roommates I moved
in when we when we had like more room where
we were in like suites and houses and stuff. So yeah,
maybe that was it for me. It brought up a
lot of nostalgia, which was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
I am oh, I forgot about one of them, so
I don't talk to him anymore. I don't talk to
him anymore. There's two of my roommates that I that
I still talk to, And then I moved into an
off campus but on campus apartment with my two besties,

(01:25:26):
Kim Andry shout out the Kimentry. They had one They
had one side of the apartment and I had the other.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm best friends with my second year
college roomy, and we hit each other for the first
three months of living together because.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Y'all were so similar.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
No, that's that's why we hate each other. We were
complete opposites and we did not understand each other at all,
and then like count to six months later, we're best friends.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Yeah. Yeah, uh so yeah, so everyone's there, Ari, Tate, Holly, Aaron.
Everyone's excited to see uh, everyone progress uh with their
college years, Maggie, Kat and Brady, you know, dropping, dropping

(01:26:21):
the kiddo's off and getting everything set up and and
all of that. So that was great. I could have
done without Tate and Holly doing it in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Yeah, that was weird.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
That was a little weird.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
There's always there's always that one roommate. Unfortunately, there's always
that one roommate who thinks that now that you can
go to college, that you're you can just deal with
your boyfriend whenever you want, just completely forgetting that you
have roommates there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Luckily I ever had to deal with that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Oh no, yeah, my advice to Holly set boundaries quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Well, she did have the boundary.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
No, she walked out of the room. She capitulated, girl,
if you're feeling, if you're being put in an uncomfortable
position in your own room on day one, uh, I
don't care if a written contracts at the boundary, she said.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
She looked at Tate and said, early in the moon
and you want this, late in the evening, you won't this,
and he gonna get it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
I mean, it's also not weird, but also complicated that
he's her cousin. So there's that part of it too.
It's like you know what that Arian? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Yeah, I was like, we feel bad, we feel bad
for Ari.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Now, were they trying to indicate something happening between Aaron
and Arim?

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
We'll see, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Yeah, first day of college.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
If we come on Monday and they laying in bed.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Oh god, no, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Not gonna happen. Guys, calm down.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Definitely worked out all summer, as we see, So you know,
we'll see, we'll see if he has better luck in
college than he did in high school. I mean he
was all right, yeah, I mean very tight shirt see through.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Oh in his college years when they were.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
Moving in, they were oh yeah yeah, I could definitely
see worked out over his break.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Aaron definitely represents and we all knew this person, this
person who in college decided to reinvent themselves. There were
there were so many and I never I don't know,
I just I just stayed who I was because I
I didn't I didn't feel like I needed to change.
But like there were people who like presented themselves one

(01:29:09):
way in college and then there would be one random
person or somebody that would be like, oh they were
not like that in high school. Yeah, and then and
then we'll show you like proof and then like how
they were like nerdy or maybe a little chubby or
something like that, but then in college they were just
like they were like it's like you know, oh, no,
my name isn't Stephan anymore. It's Stefan. And it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
The girl.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Yeah, that's what That's what Aaron is given. Aaron is
given like you know, oh, you didn't think I was
ricosabe in high school, but in college, I'm about to
be a Rico. All right, Well that was saving you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
Yeah, just because we were talking about that, we forgot
to mention the Mama Green is in a pace liity nearby,
so you know, like they might pick that up at
some other point to have her come out. But apparently
she's still dealing with the effects of what Clyde did
to her, Like they were never really sort of clear

(01:30:13):
about what she was going through, like before it was
like the legal trouble. So that's why Aaron was there
to help her with that. But now I guess they're
they're sort of implying she still needs some mental help
with with what happened to her. So just a little reminder.
Maybe we'll see her in the future.

Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
Yeah, yeah, we shall see. Yeah, all right. The next one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
For those most of it, this is the sixty year sentence.
This obviously Kristen sentencing and Johnny and yeah what do you?
What do you? Who annoyed you?

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
I'm so bad for Eric Martsough right now because the
because the to me, the amount of just pure hate
that his character is getting right now online is just
like who Granted that's the worst I've seen. But I

(01:31:29):
get it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
I know that everyone is trying to keep it from
Rachel and other people. Someone needs to tell Brady. Yeah,
someone needs to tell Brady and just be like, this
is what's happening. Yeah, But I also just feel like

(01:31:53):
how harsh he's been. It's just kind of like, I
get it, it's Kristen, but it's also like girl, like.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
It's way overkilled, Like she's already been sentenced. Why are
you coming in saying give her the map? Like, I
don't know, there's something because he's angry, but the level
of anger in relation to him, like I guess, I
guess the context is Kristen did this to Rachel essentially,
like put her on the stand and made her agonized

(01:32:22):
in the weeks that she stomach problems and all that stuff.
I guess he's The consensus is he's attributing all that
to Kristin's fault, which I get, but I don't know
if it's worth going in and advocating for her to
be in jail longer.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
And that's the real reason that people are so pissed
at him, is that even if that were the case,
he's not seeing the forest for the trees. Yeah, that
he is letting his anger dictate his long term decisions
towards Rachel and her well being, like her mother being

(01:33:02):
in sick. Like this situation is bad, already bad. And yes,
it's not your fault. It is you know, you know
Kristin has at least not to his knowledge, to his knowledge,
this is all Kristen's fault. But even if that were
the case, you pushing the judge for more time does
not make the situation better.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
No, I love, but I love seeing Marlene have some sympathy.
When Belle kind of went in and Marlene was just
like stop, stop stopping. Christ Bell was like, yeah, girl,
are you okay? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
Now, I hope they continue that. I actually like that,
not that not that I think these two are like
gonna officially bury the hatchet and be best friends, but
I think we also if they're they've sort of put
Kristin in Marlene in the same family now for a while,
so like at some point their relationship has to change,
especially now John's gone. John hasn't been a factor for years,

(01:34:00):
Like Brady and her were kind of getting along for
the most part before this, So I think, yeah, there's
a there's a time where certain relationships need to change.
So maybe that's, you know what the good thing that
might come out of this maybe yeah, but yeah, I
don't understand keeping it from Brady. It still doesn't make
sense to me. He's not the type to ruin anything.

(01:34:22):
If anything, I think it would develop a healthy respect
for Kristin for doing this. He may not like the
fact that she's doing it. But also like the Rachel side,
like we talked about last week, So if he was,
this is now on Marlena to like help Rachel, do
you know what I mean? Like she's the only one
who knows the truth is she's supposed to be Like

(01:34:43):
I know Kristin asked her to keep an eye on Rachel. Yes,
and she's she has a grandmother. But still like now
she has to like make sure Rachel doesn't exhibit any
signs and make sure mental health is intact. Like how
do you do that without involving Brady? Like, I don't know,
it doesn't it's just not connecting for me. Oh, we're

(01:35:14):
moving on, okay, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Happy birthday JJ Gwen, y'all get it together. Welcome back
Jack and Jennifer and that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Cake did not fit in that box.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Why are you yelling about the cake?

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Because because everybody noticed that the cake did not fit
in the box, also that the cake did not look delicious,
which I think is a personal insult to Chanell. Don't
put that nasty looking cake on Chanell's bakery because I
know it didn't come from there.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
I came from Ralps.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
I love the loving the Gwen scenes love her with
JJ their little like Now it's starting to become a
little back and forth. Before it was I hate you,
I hate you too. Now it's sort of like I
can throw you a compliment, I can be nice to you.
I can kind of accept it. I'm a little hesitant,
but I love the thing. But Jack, I still think

(01:36:13):
like she she is her father's daughter, as much as
they like to fight it, and like she she very
much is a Johnson and I I think they're overplaying
a little bit. And maybe my memory is about like
how much the Whrtons quote unquote did to her. I
wouldn't say they treated her amazingly well, but I don't

(01:36:34):
know if they're I don't know if like the the
ire or the like disdain she has for them equals
how much they they treated her. I don't remember, maybe
someone else can remind. Maybe I'm misremembering to certain things.
But I did like when Gwen said, you're choosing the
whore Ends over because it makes a distinction of like,
you are my family. I know you're married into the

(01:36:55):
Hortons and you have been for years, and your kids
are Hortons, but I'm much Johnson and Youora Johnson, and
we have way more in common with each other than
we do with the whore Ends. And I like that.
I like to for bringing that up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
I think it's it's it's it's it's coming back to
what we talked about earlier, which is it's the hypocrisy,
like not so much from JJ. I think JJ is
one of those people that you know, he's he's got
a history. He can't talk, but he could. But he
also he doesn't constantly throw Gwen's mistakes in her face.
He's he The conversations that they have had Leiy have

(01:37:31):
really been fair in terms of like, well, if you
want things to change, you know, you know where to
find me kind of a thing. It's the it's it's
the rest, it's it's Jennifer Well to say it's Jennifer.
It's Jennifer and her blatant hatred and hypocrisy and convenient
forgetting of history, like do you not remember how bad

(01:37:55):
Jack was before you married him? Like do we need
to go over his list of crimes?

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
I was surprised JJ sort of respectfully brought that up
without sort of really taking her to task, but also
being respectful about it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Happy birthday, JJ.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Happy birthday, and happy birthday to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Me, and happy birthday to you, Happy.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
Birthday to me, who actually, despite having a drink in
her hand, kept her cool because Tony was the one
that was all trigger happy this whole episode.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
I wasn't trigger happy. I was merely just making a point.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Many with very explicit words.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Points were made.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Points were made.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
Now you can ask you, we can do a survey
of the people. Was I right? Or was I right?
Or was I right?

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
You know, the only person who's opinion matters is mom?

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
No more true? But who was who did you agree
with most today? Myself? Justin or Rselly comment below? Actually,
you know what, let me put that as a as
one of our one of our things. Right now, hold

(01:39:18):
on a minute, right now, if you go to our Instagram.
Who did you agree with more in episode? Okay, I
got that. We're now going to create where we are

(01:39:41):
creating a poll live right now, Tony, Justin Rselly or nobody.
There we go. The poll is now officially see right
here the poll Wait, you can't see it. Whatever, There

(01:40:02):
you go. The poll is officially going up.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Vote however you want. People. I take no offense to
anyone's opinion because I don't think this is fairy guy,
you don't think it's fair?

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
No, Why.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
Because I don't like putting our audience in that position.
Why because I like them.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
And if they like you, they'll vote for you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
I don't need them to vote for me to like me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
We'll see. We'll see what they say. Well, Justin has
a vote.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
A couple above that too.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Everything's fine. I will love you all no matter what.
As long as you're you don't come for my Irish
garlic chips, we're still friends.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
Let me do a poll of if you had to
get rid of one of us, who would it be.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Oh my god, that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Pole isn't going up. But what is going up? Right now?
Our our favorite part of the show, which are our segments?
Oh man, I just realized I have to breast the buttons. Okay,
now that I'm back, Uh, that was your That was
days of our lives, everybody. We're now going into our

(01:41:43):
favorite part of the show, which are our segments, and
we're going to start with mine, which is Tony's Official
Please Snap's Award. Here we go, all right, I three
Snaps Award goes to an amazing couple who is such

(01:42:07):
an interest and intricate part to a storyline that we
see them just as often as the storyline is discussed.
I don't know who these people are. I don't know
how this photo was made, if it's a stock photo

(01:42:29):
or did they actually call people in. But to whoever
this fake family is, you are doing a good job.
You you doing a good job. You are doing a
good job for this storyline. So to the redhead mama
and the hot daddy with the new baby, you get

(01:42:51):
Tony's Official three Snaps Award. There we go, all right,
and we don't have caption that because Michael Madis isn't here.
So take a moment with us and let's travel back

(01:43:13):
to Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
I right, everyone, I'm taking back to September second, nineteen
ninety seven, when Carrie stopped Sammy in Austin's wedding with
the bomb show news that Will was not Austin's son
and giving us one of our most memorable sort of
slaps here when Carrie bitch slapped Sammy and actually knocked
her to the ground. Yeah, if you remember this, this

(01:43:42):
was a nice book. And to win, Sammy showed up
to ruin Carrie and Austin's wedding announcing that she was pregnant.
So flashed forward sort of three years later and we
have sort of this scene that kind of Carrie sort
of gets a little bit of her revenge, and after
the show on we would drop those were Days Extended
where I sort of do a little Sammy versus Carrie

(01:44:03):
and sort of get my opinion on their their sort
of epic feud over the over the decades and who
was right, who was wrong, which character was better represented
vice versa, and what I thought, what I think moving
forward with these two. So so go check that out
after the show. But that was September second, nineteen ninety seven,
when Carrie stops Sammy in Austin's wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
Thank you so much, And now we know those well
and we love those days. Make sure after the show
you go check out those were the days extended and
share with a friend. And now it was time for

(01:44:46):
It's a Gift and this.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
Week's It's a Gift goes to John Paulovassier as Philip Kuriacus,
just really selling that he's on the verge of dying.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
I mean, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
JP is just such a character actor. It's nice to
give him dews.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
I don't like that it was did you see when
he spit it out and it like I was like, okay,
that was that was a good job spitting it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Out and he did he did, Yeah, he sold it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Yeah, well, thank you are Sally for that. And that was.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
It's a game.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
And now it's time for HM News and gossip.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
And to start off, we have some casting news. Some
of you may have heard, we have a new THEO
in town next week. This is newcomer Tyler Joseph Andrews,
who has been cast as our new THEO who make
his way back to Salem on Tuesday's episode. Congratulations Tyler.
We look forward to seeing kind of what THEO is
going to be up to next They think we all
were sort of expecting this. They've been hinting at him

(01:46:05):
for the last few months. So yeah, we got a
brand new THEO so that we'll see. Yeah, we'll see
next week. How if the characterization has changed, if he's
still the same theo what they lean into versus what
they don't, How has he changed? So yeah, they congrats
to Tyler and we'll see him this week.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
And you know when they made the announcement that this
THEO was coming this week? Yeah, and do you know
when he's arriving next week? Interesting how they made this
casting news, you know, in the way that it should
rather than saying a brand new THEO is coming next year,

(01:46:46):
we get to see him right away, and that's how
you share casting news.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
In addition to that, we want to give some congrats
to front of the Show Lucas Adams. He actually has
been cast as the new Noah Newman on yan R
where he will join of course, Billy Flynn and Tim
Rabraun and he'll begin airing US sometime this fall, So
big congrats to Lucas well. We'll miss him at days
this trip. But but yeah, we're all for people working,

(01:47:15):
and seems like why an are is snatching up some
days people and some other people, and they're looking to
sort of yeah, not revamp their show, but to add
to add to their cast, so big congrats to Lucas.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Yeah. Oh and uh do you know when the Fall
is coming up? Do you know when they announced that
Lucas Adams was coming this week shortly before what the Fall?

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
Okay, next up? Happy birthday to our Hope Brady Christian
al Fonso, who celebrated her last her birthday this past
Friday with me, we're waking ones Yay.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Yeah, I always uh, she's always so nice. At least
I hope it's her that's running her Instagram because I
wish her a happy birthday to uh as she reposted
the photo of her and James Lott Junior and it
has to be one of my favorite stories of of
Distion Days when James Lott Junior got to finally meet

(01:48:28):
his idol and it was like I saw her Well,
I love telling this story. This is going to be
in you know, for for her birthday. But but James,
like this is during day of days. James Junior wasn't
on the show but on Diition Days. But I said, listen,

(01:48:48):
no one will be able to do this interview justice
other than you. You have to come. You can come
as as part of us, just to do this interview.
And he came, and there was one moment where she
went up the stairs and and Tammy Govea, who was
one of the hosts at the time, was like, oh,
there she is. And James was like, oh my god.

(01:49:09):
And Tammy was like, girl, go in the corner and
get yourself together. And then finally it was time because
her and Galen came together and I walked over and
I said, James Slott junior Christian Alfonso, and James describes
that it's almost like everyone parted ways and there she was,
and she just went finally and they embraced and it

(01:49:33):
was you can check that interview out on our on
our YouTube channel. But it was such an amazing interview,
and I was I'm just always happy that that he
got to meet someone that he's idolized for so long,
Like what was so amazing? So happy birthday, Christian.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
Sorry, yeah, he still watched that interview when James sort
of expresses to Christian. And usually sometimes those things can
be uncomfortable for the actor, or they can come off
really weird or like fat or or whatever. But she
actually really took it well, and she was actually surprised
he do so much not just about her stuff as Hope,
but other characters she played, and she just took it well.

(01:50:13):
And Galen sort of sitting in there beaming like, oh,
like you're getting your flowers. So go check out that interview.
It's really really well.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
I'm so impressed that James was able to keep his
composure and actually sit down and have a cohesive conversation
because it could have it could have gone way the
other directions.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
He's a professional. He's a professional.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
Even professionals there. You know, there's always that one person.
It's never who you expect it's going to be. There's
like one person who you like, oh you think I
have on my questions. I'm going to get the interview right,
and then they're.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Like yeah, okay, oh man out of this. Next year,
for Christian Alfonso's birthday, I'm going to find the clip
where James Junior reveals the meeting behind his screen name

(01:51:08):
at the time, which was Black Hope and Mark J.
Freeman and I sat in awe because we both thought
it was like Black Hope, but he was like, oh no,
I consider myself the Black Hope and I was like,
that's what that means. We were in shock. Shock. I

(01:51:33):
have to find that clip and I have to say
happy birthday, Christian Alfonso. Here's the Black Hope Anniversary. Yeah,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
AnyWho, all right, sorry, on with more news and gossip.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Attention all Electure Women and Dinah Girl fans. Peter Hall
and her former co star Judy Strands are making two
of their favorite prints available to fans. Both prints will
be personalized and autographs, but there are limited copies, so
go to her official social media page at ddre Hall

(01:52:10):
Underscore Official for details and information on how you can
get the official Electrowoman and Dina Girl. Next up, Curson
Boatman and Raven Bowens took a trip to the Valley
Relic Museum in Van Nuys, California to take a walk
down old Hollywood memory Lane. This paid tribute to original

(01:52:33):
NBC stage lights that date back to the early twenties
and you can up to this July that they were
used on the set of Day's Sound stages in Bird Banks.
So that's over one hundred year old staleage lights. That's crazy.
So you can see that and a ton of other

(01:52:54):
memorabilia at the museum and you can go to add
Day's Peacock to see their contribution to the.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
Yem nice And let's been at least we have a
little update for the day Players band. They've actually doesn't
mean day Players new cake for the new year. February
twenty first, they're going to be in Tacoma, Washington, and
of course for the rest of the year you can
catch them in Cedar Rapids, Des Moines, Omaha, Kansas City, Naperville, Brookfield,

(01:53:26):
and Batavia through October. And all tickets and information you
can go to the day Players band dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
Thank you and ladies and gentlemen. That was news and gossa.
And now let's take a look at what's coming up
on this week's episodes of Peacock's Days of Our Lives.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Time goes so quickly quickly for some, slowly for others.

Speaker 4 (01:53:56):
The waiting periods. O. Really, tons of people are going
to be competing with the cutest baby.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
On the planet. I already have a baby in mind.
Do you remember how I told you that that firehouse
baby could not have been sophieus?

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
So is he right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
Could the baby be theirs?

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
Daddy six six years my person.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
Well, welcome home. That's what's this proposal you have for me?
How they announced the O and there he is. He
looks great on.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
Camera, intriguing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
What is.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
I like? This is the perfect time to bring a
character like THEO home?

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Mm hmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Yeah, like you forget the THEO is a demera and
then he comes in and you're like.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Hmmm, they hope. Oh he eventually beats like his mama
and just you know for a hot second. Yeah, well
can you imagine if they got him like a red soup.

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
We already did that with Johnny.

Speaker 4 (01:55:12):
Oh yeah, well whatever, something something similar homage to Lexi
back then.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
Well, maybe this week Days will wake me up. And
when we come back next week, I'll be super excited
to dive into what happened this week on Peacock's Days
of Our Lives. But in the meantime, that's been our show. Everyone.
Thank you guys so much for tuning into Adition Days.
We are here every Sunday, live and in living color
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(01:56:29):
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