On The Edge!! Dishin' Days week of Oct 20th-24th, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's time to start Tition Days with your host Tony Moore,
Michael Madis, Justin, Lee Harrold and Atta Sadi Alalys.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
And now let's dish.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
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through these topics and go through the show. Yeah, starting off,
what did you guys think of this week's episode and episodes?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was good. We had a lot of forward movement
this week.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, really intense conversations the last few weeks. So for
our audience members. We were not here last week to
discuss the last two weeks content because we were very
very much in recovery from covering the Daytime Emmys, and
I'll plug right here that you can watch all of
our interviews with the various stars, past, present, and future

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of Days of our Lives. They're currently on our YouTube
channel right now. Please subscribe and go and check out
those interviews. Because it was a whirlwind of a day
and we got a lot of great content from a
lot of our favorites, some old, some new, some yet
to air. So it was really really good. So the

(03:37):
last few weeks we didn't get to cover and there
was a lot of really intense conversations being had. I
think we might get into some debate today about certain things.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh lord, debate.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I actually think we'll be on. I think we will
be on. I'll be on the same side of dates
to day. I don't I should I should say going
to be conversation. I don't think. I don't anticipate much
debate amongst each other.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, now that you said it, it's gonna be this
is gonna be a five thirty show.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Oh god, I'm so I think off by five so
I don't know, I'm having on.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Five no matter what arguments over or not.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Aren't you no glad that you don't that you only
have to deal with MOA.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Sure, as you can see, Tony is actually out today.
He will be back next week. But yeah, this week
was good. It was a lot. I feel like, I
feel like one of our biggest complaints has been we
love the new writing and we love seeing so many
different characters at once and their stories lines are interchanging,
which is great. I think our biggest complaint has been

(04:50):
like the pacing. But I feel like this week the
pacing was good, Like it was a lot, a lot
like it usually is. It's a lot of characters, there's
a lot of intersection. But I the pacing was really
good this week. So see, I thought it was a
really good week. Yeah, we're ready to dive in and
get it, get into these debates. We'll see yeah right.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm yeah, I'm just chuckling because Dylan Matthews said it's
scorpio season, so he'll just debate for the heck of it.
I'm already dealing with so many scorpios it's ridiculous. I'll
use scorpios, all right.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well I got you got the hour glass right here
ready in one and two and three.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh, dition day.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's Dition days.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
One two three, one two three one day.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
We will report it.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Sophia's breakdown.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Let's go. We're starting with our first storyline, Sophia.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Okay, so we were having a breakdown to well, well, yeah,
we are a little bit today. So I will say
the one word that came out of this week, and
it wasn't just because it happened recently, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy.
That Emmy is coming to Rachel Boyd next year. And

(06:19):
the good news is the girl is not probably is
probably not going to have to do a lot of
homework because I think the fans are just going to
put together her real for her.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, she was great thinking about the fans. They will
definitely tell her what to put on there.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
This is I mean Sophia's breakdown. This is every so
via Amy Tate, Holly, Ari Chanel, Johnny. Then we had
Steve Brady, Sarah, a little bit of EJ and Bell
mixed in, and then Leo and Hobby. Of course this
ef what did you guys, think of how this all
played out.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
As expected.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
You know, I think we've been talking for a few
weeks about how it's kind of inevitable that she's you know,
she she she had some kind of or she was
on the verge of having some sort of break, which
was why she was acting the way she was, and
because of all that she had to deal with, you know,
all by herself taking it on while.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Being pregnant and being young and with everything else going on.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
So it played out as expected, everyone confronting her and
just like piling piling on, and she just.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
She cracked.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
It.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
When I when someone says the word anxiety, that entire
scene in the pub, that's what that is. That was
It was to me, that was the outward manifestation of
what anxiety looks like, where it's just one on top

(08:00):
of the other and you can't get a word in,
you can't get it under control until it just builds
and builds and build, and then that's it.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, there's some speculation that she's faking, but we're just
gonna go on the assumption right now that she's not.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, yeah, I don't get that she's fake. I will
say I was waiting for that. Was it Friday? Was
that the last day we saw or maybe when she
was hugging her mother, I was looking for like a
hint of a smile or something, or like something to
indicate to us the audience that she was faking. But
I don't think so. I think also what I don't

(08:42):
know if the faking is any is better than I mean,
she's being sent to it, to an institution that's better.
I don't know if she wins in that situation versus,
you know, facing the truth here. I will say Monday,
I was a little bit disappointed. I gotta say rachel
performance was amazing. I loved seeing everyone gathered in the pub.

(09:03):
I was a little disappointed. I was expecting that to
go a little further. I felt like once it got started,
it was over with m I liked, well, you know
what I mean, and I understand. I guess there it's
it's to keep things going. I guess. I don't know.
There's still some things that are open ended regarding her
moving forward. But I love the performance. I wish it

(09:25):
was a little bit more of a back and forth
or like a fight, a bit you know, not physical,
but you know, maybe I don't know, maybe even see
her like tell off certain people. We got a little
bit of that with Tate, we got a little bit
of Johnny Johnny. Yeah, Yeah, I was excited for that.

(09:48):
I wanted to see more of it. Yeah, I was
a little disappointed there, but but I thought the performances
were great.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
If anything, I think that lends more to the argument
that she is not because she she literally couldn't get
control of her emotions. She was she this whole time,
and you could see it in that conversation with her
mother where she was explaining, you know, I am not
the person that you have in your head, and it

(10:21):
was all that was. I think that kind of lends
to everyone who is in that room. Everybody had their
own opinions of who Sophia was and why she did
what she did, but nobody, I think the only person
who genuinely was asking questions with one hundred empathy and

(10:42):
with genuine concern was Melinda the week prior. M Now. Granted,
Melinda definitely has her own, you know, reasons for wanting
for her wanting Sophia not to go off the rails,
but the conversation last week that between Sophia and Melinda.

(11:04):
You could see the empathy in her eyes where she
was really trying to get Sophia to calm down, where
she was just sitting with She was doing exactly what
you're supposed to do when someone is like spinning out.
She was trying to sit her down, calmly, trying to
just say, I am here for you. Just explain it

(11:24):
to me, Explain to me what you're feeling, why you
did with you did, and then then putting it backwards
on her saying it's not that I am mad at you,
I am afraid for you. She was showing her empathy
in that moment, and that is what Sophia needed more

(11:46):
up m h.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, yeah, they just you know, the thing is, it's
tough for them because they they were kind of an
ignorant bliss about everything thing that Sophia had told them
and happened.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, and so if they you know, obviously, if they.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Had known all that she had been through, they would
have more empathy. Instead, they just knew what they were seeing,
taking it face value, she was doing all these things
and that's why they were bombarding her with the accusations.
And now you know, now she's getting the empathy from most.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Everybody, most everybody, most everybody.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Of course, the one we all we would all expect
to not be to be kind of a d bag
about it is being a d bag about it, Yeah,
talking about But I don't know if we're there yet.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I mean, well, I mean we could go I mean
we could go there. I mean you think he's the
only one, and you know what, he's just EJ being EJ.
And I'm glad that Belle shut him down right away.
And he was just the last in a very long
line of people who had no business getting in Sophie

(13:00):
his face. And I and I say that because that's
what that confrontation in the pub was. That it's not
the same thing as getting answers, as sitting down with
someone and saying, hey, I need clarification on this. That
was like a swarm m hm.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I also think though, too, like I, you know, I
have my sympathy and empathy for Sophia, but I feel
like there's a line there that you know, it only
lasts so long or it only stretches so far, and
I wonder, like, I don't know, I think empathy and
sympathy are not forgiveness. I think she there's there's still

(13:43):
in the exact same position they were before. All of
this truth that they know has has come from external places.
I mean, I don't know. I think maybe Holly said
it best when she was like later on when she
was taught thing. I think maybe with Ari I think
it was, or maybe tape I can't remember. She was

(14:07):
saying how much she feels bad for Sophia, but also
that's still not an excuse for all of the terrible
things she just did and has been doing for the
last several months. And what does that mean. I mean,
on one hand, we got we got the drama of it,
the confrontation, but nothing, they're They're in the exact same
position they were before, probably even a worse position now

(14:29):
because she's she's sort of catatonic, so she's not answering,
she's not giving them any They're not Johnny and Chanelle
are making any headway when it comes to the adoption.
Now we see that Amy Choy has like taken up
the mantle, which honestly made me just roll my eyes.
And that's the the avoidance, the not taking responsibility. Now

(14:55):
now everything is still Johnny's fault, Like Johnny is still
the devil in all the like.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, let let's be clear, every
look everybody in this situation. It got so complicated and
so out of control. There's a lot of there's everyone
made a lot of missteps, mostly based on false information,
on assumptions, on crankly dealing with their own drama. That

(15:23):
they left this poor girl to uh kind of to
deal with the fallout of her emotions on her own,
and but that's not their responsibility. The only person whose
responsibility actually was was her mother, and she continues not
to take any yeah, or to shift it towards what

(15:47):
looks right or what the situation should be, instead of
dealing with what is mm hmmm, Yeah, I mean, I
mean we could look, I'm I'm using a lot of
PC language right now. We all know what Amy Choye is.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, I mean it was pretty evident too. And again
it's this sort of small scene sort of summed up
I think my whole position the last couple of months
on this when she was when Sophia started to explain
herself before she kind of lost it and she started saying, Tate,
you know, they would make me keep the baby. And
then Tate's like girl, what the hell are you talking about?

(16:28):
And then Amy CHOI jumped in and I'm sitting there like,
exactly what are you talking about? He was never going
to make you keep the baby. This is all stems
from the I won't say irrational fear, but I don't
know the trauma of your mother's stuff and all her
baggage put on you that and he sort of like
translates to they were going to make me do it.

(16:51):
They were never going to make you do it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't think that. I don't think that Tate was
necessary was going to make her keep the baby. I
don't think that he would have been able to stop Amy.
I don't. I don't think he would have. He would
have been able to do enough, and not not because
of any any character flaw on his part necessarily, but

(17:17):
because Amy is just such a damn steam roller that
it would have been She would have just never ever
ever stopped pushing, and we would have ended up with
the same result, with her just rolling right over Sophia.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah yeah, and yeah, now she's still hole bent on.
Johnny is to blame, so she's going to keep.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
They will get that baby over my dead body. Let them.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Let them have let them want.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Really, after all of that, do we really think that
Johnny and Chanell need to be adopting to Sorrow.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'm on the fence.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I'm on the fence, Like I part of me doesn't,
you know, thinks yeah, why not. But it just it
started out just it's it has started out so not great.
And you know, Johnny going back and forth, and he
had his reasons and now he and Chanel are are

(18:31):
stable and that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
But yeah, I'm just I'm on the fence about it.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, Like I guess I wouldn't be mad if if
it worked out, I wouldn't be upset about it.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
But like, do you need to adopt this baby?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
They do seem to have it. They do seem to
be stuck on this him in particular.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean, like it's it's just it's just so complicated.
The biological mother does not want you to have this baby.
The biological grandmother is going to steamroll you into losing
your minds if you try to adopt this baby. Even

(19:09):
the people, even the Foster family who has been taking
character Sorrow day in and day out, has some reservations.
Granted they would they you know, they have no no,
no legal, no moral reason to you know, speak up.
But even they have their concerns. I'm just saying, like,
pick another baby. There's thousands of beautiful children in the

(19:30):
world who are waiting to be adopted. Pick another kid,
any other kid, kid, any kid.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, I don't I don't know if adoption were it
that way. I don't think there are a thousand of
newborn babies that are ready to be adopted. And seems
not even.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Saying newborn like open yourself up to the possibility a foster.
Like like I'm just saying, it's like they've seen me
stuck on just this baby, like not adopting, not fostering,
not trying for like they just want this baby and
this baby alone.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
But I also think the I think the people who
are objecting to this, I don't know if they're their
opinion to me, is even worthy to go up against
Johnny and Chanel, Like Sophia doesn't want them. Sophia's got
her own issues that she needs to worry about. Amy
CHOI doesn't want them. Amy Choi, for various reasons, is
the reason why Sophia is in this situation. I'm not

(20:27):
even acknowledging your opinion, Like if I were, I mean
Leo and Hobby Leo, you don't have a leg to
stand on discussing other people's characters, like you know, like listen.
If if they want to make the case Tsura has
been with us, we want to go for it, then
I think they have every right to throw their in

(20:48):
the ring. I'm surprised that they're sort of I wouldn't
say give up, but they sort of bowed out of
it so far. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
They have seemed to just kind of resign the fact
that the baby's eventually going somewhere else, that they're not
even they don't even feel that they're It's almost like
they don't even feel like they're an option for it.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, I'd be in totally supportive they wanted to do it,
and then I feel like, you know, all's fair if
whoever wants to maybe you know, you apply in whoever
gets some you know, whatever kind of thing. But I
don't know, I just don't think those I don't think
those reasons are enough. If I were Johnny and Chanelle
to throw in the towel.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I don't, well, then let me let me flip it around.
It's it's not that their opinions matter or that they
should matter necessarily, but they are a fact that all
of these people in this complicated situation, they exist, and
that is just a fact that is not going to
go away. And if I'm playing devil's advocate on behalf

(21:43):
of Johnny and Chanelle, then I'm going to tell them this.
You need to be prepared for this to be a fight,
not just in order to adopt him, but maybe for
the rest of this kid's life. For the rest to
think about that, for the rest of this kid's life,
you may be fighting the biological family. You may be

(22:06):
they may be a constant stressor say you say, you
go through all the trouble, you get legal custody, you
raise them as your own. You're still gonna be in
a constant battle with these people. They're not going away
because they have such strong objections. Are you ready for
a lifetime of that?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
M I mean, welcome to Salem, Welcome to every other
facet of all their their lives for you know, like
I mean, it's and be the son of Sammy j
Get you know.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
You say it all the time. You gotta be careful
who you have kids with so you know, I mean,
and and that's just the natural way. If you actually
are choosing to make it more difficult for yourself, then
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
We're also focusing really have on Sophia's family's side of things.
We still have Aaron as the other factor here on
the Green family they decide and and you know, we
were gone last night reveal happened that what everybody didn't
want to happen happened where Aaron had a light bulb

(23:21):
moment and was like, oh yeah, maybe I could be
the father and we were just it was like okay, great,
and it was very anti climatic and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
So there's still that hanging.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Around that, yes, Aaron and Sophia did stoop at one
time and he thinks he might be the father.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
So I mean it could.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
I mean, there hasn't been I don't we so we
have seen there has not been like any kind.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Of I like how that was. There hasn't been a test,
has there. Wouldn't that be like the one of the
first things that after all the other DNA tests, it's
going to get well, it's.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Going to get done. Kat No. Aaron talked to Kat
and Kat said, you know, she said, that's the first
thing that we're going to do. So it's in the works,
and I think that it's coming sooner rather than later,
and so hopefully once that happens, we can put all
of this to bed or at least have have some

(24:20):
direction going forward.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
And you know, like that my point being about the test,
like it's still could end up not being Aaron's. There
still could be another twist coming. They could This could
just be a red herring for you know, but then
we need to figure Okay, whoever to my original point
of like we're focusing so much on the interference of

(24:43):
Sophia's family, we also need to worry about the family
of whoever the dad is possibly trying to Yeah, my
my thing, the kids should probably.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Be adopted outside of Salem.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yes, I go.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Just away from all of the interference.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think that's something that everybody at this point agrees
on that it's just gotten to be such a dang
mess and this kid deserves better.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, as yeah, but as Justin said, welcome to Salem.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, I mean I always I always harken back to
like the one time that they actually pulled the trigger
on the adoption route, which was when they gave away
Philip's son, Tyler back in the day. And I was
always very grateful that they pulled the trigger on that,
because Philip was very upfront about not being ready to

(25:45):
be a dad, let alone being a dad to a
son who he had really no tie to other than biology.
It was, you know, those were such crazy circumstances too,
you know, and that's a too long story to get into,
but he knew that just the kid deserves better. The

(26:05):
kid deserved a fresh, clean start with a family that
was going to love him unconditionally from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I don't remember this, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I must have been out, Yeah, Philip and Navi's baby
because the Black Gloves switched them.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Member, I was actually, well, yeah, I was out of
the show then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
A son together out there who should be who should
be what two three years younger than Clay. She should
be an adult now. Yeah, and I'm making his way
back to Salem in the next twelve months.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
We help, We hope, we can always hope. Yeah, like
not that I don't ever want to see that that kid,
but that was that to me, was just the right
decision at that time. For that character, and if they,
if they were astute, would do it again.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
I assume what do we think of the Tate and
Holly end of it now that this seemed like not like, oh,
everything's all resolved now, but you know clear, you know,
all things clear for us to move forward.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
But Tate's goal this week after the reveal and oh,
I'm not a dad. His goal was to get into
the get into Holly's panties.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Like He's like, I'm over.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
It, let's go fuck like and Holly's like, uh, I
got a study and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I just.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
They put Holly and Tate back together, and I'm just like, okay,
here we go again.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
We're not into it, Like I'm just.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'm not I don't hate it, but I'm also not
very I'm just like, okay, that's happening. It's and Tate's
still acting like a butt hit.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Look on the bright side, it did seem like hollywoods
at least acknowledging for the first time that even with
Sophia out of the way, so much has happened that
you know, they're they're not the same people that they were,
And I do hope that they lean into that because

(28:23):
it's it's true. And again this I'm it's not a
character flaw to say that we don't fit right now,
or we don't work right now, or we're you know,
stuff has happened. Yeah, and yeah that's the thing. Nobody's
saying you gotta break up forever. But it's like it's
a lot, It's been a lot, and I'll admit it's

(28:44):
it's it's not their fault. They're just kids and they
should have the right to be kids and to actually
take a breather from all this serious stuff and figure
out who they are.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
And forget like you know, just started college, you know,
focus on school, get your bearings there.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, like there's nothing wrong. Yeah, too much has happened.
They just need to be apart for now.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, they're very much hot and heavy. And even if
they're not apart, like take things slow, let's let's light
lighten things up a bit. I know, it's a lom
I know, like let's go to a movie, let's go
to the arcade, Let's go do something silly and fun
and reflective of the fact that we're to eighteen year
old freshman in college, like you know what I mean,

(29:37):
Like let's take a even if the breather isn't a
breakup or a break like, let's let's lighten this relationship.
Ever since they it's been hot and heavy with them,
whether it's trauma, whether it's it's the drugs, the arrests, imprisonment,
it's the mothers, it's it's Sophia. The last few months,
then it's them back and forth with each other. It's like, Okay,

(30:00):
you've got enough relationship woes for a couple that's been
together a year, a year and a half. Maybe this
has all been maybe two years at this point. It's
a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, they need the lightness to bounce it out, and
the lightness is what is what keeps a real relationship going.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, we'll see if they if they get it, I do.
I don't want to break from these two characters, but
I think I want to see these two characters in
other things, like give them a a freshman college storyline,
or like make them part of other people's storyline for
a minute, like I need a I need a break
from the seriousness of of Tit and Holly for a minute.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, and then what else of this? Well, we got
Leo and Hobby didn't really. I mean they're more throwing again,
throwing their support in with Johnny and Chanelle. They I
like that they warned them about Amy sort of, you
know whatever, she has upper sleeve, and again we don't

(31:05):
know is it. I guess, well, maybe we'll find out
this week. Is she saying I now want to raise
the baby, so I'm gonna put into which again I
mean that the same, but she she has the.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Upper hand, she's the biological grandmother.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, if that's what, Or is she just saying I'm
gonna mess it up so you don't get to adopt
it and maybe someone else can. That's still fine. But yeah,
we'll see kind of what is upper sleeve, I guess
in the next weel.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, I did the one thing I will give And
maybe it was more about the performance than the character,
because we haven't really we Amy CHOI.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Has kind of been a one track character or like
a one note character. But those scenes with Sophia in
the hospital with her and.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh god, Brady.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
No, the bedside with her and Rachel yes, thank you.
I wanted to say, Linday, that's not Lindsay, But.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Those were like really really great, really great, great scenes,
and it was great to see is her name Shana.
Great to see Shanee be given some some real material
that she can you know, work with and when you know,
and then you know the moment like she like put
her hand over and Sophia yanked it away and the

(32:27):
tears with oh my gosh, that girl like Rachel with
the tears, Like I don't know how she does that,
but she did a couple of weeks ago, and she
did it again, and I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
That's that's yeah. Like the fans will give her their
their opinions on the scenes, and she can just watch
our show tell us when the exact moments work for
her amy real.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I also liked to scene with Brady in the hospital
where they were she's you know, he's been very combative.
That's a little bit of a combative relationship, and then
just to see him sort of really actually be kind
to her and and helpful, and you know, I thought
that scene between them was good.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
To relating to each other's yeah you just said it
related to each other as parents, and having you know,
him having empathy for her because you know there were yeah, empathy.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I had empathy for her as much as you could.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
And yeah, I think it helps that not saying I
don't want to use the term they're off the hook,
but I think it's easy for Brady to now be
empathetic to her now that Tate has been removed from
the equation, you know what I mean. Like when it's
when it's family against family, then it just becomes people
get defensive and antagonistic. But now that you know Brady's

(33:45):
they're they're sort of, you know, we're slowly removing themselves
from this saga a bit, and they can afford to,
you know, just disembark from from this mess that is
happening now. So I think it's easy for him or
easy for him to be to be helpful. And then
with like when she was missing, bringing in Steve to help,

(34:05):
which I thought was nice, and and I thought everyone
was being very kind to her. They were sort of
putting away their issues with Sophie and everything that they
had just learned about her in the last couple of
weeks to to just you know, put put every put
our heads together and find this girl.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, h was that it regarding Sophie's to recover everything there? Yeah,
I like Sarah's conversation with Yeah, I think Shani just
was great this week between Rachel Brady and now Sarah
sort of really getting to her, I thought was good.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, I think that's it.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I guess we can move on to our next storyline,
and that is business and pleasure. This is the Xander, THEO, Gabby, Phillip, Alex,
Johnny Abe, and Paulina basically surrounding Titan Amrah in their dissolution,
the disillusion, the merger, disillusion, the unmergering.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, call me, call me crazy, but as far as
the business aspect goes, I think this actually works out
well for everybody.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
On paper.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
On the surface, it kind of does, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Like they keep saying that Titan's in like the ship
the Shiitter right now, But you know, like I do
think it's it's for the best. Demira is with Demera,
Titan is with the Curiocus side, Gabby's in the mix.
I'm still like Gabby chic did Okay, wait a minute,
I need to Okay. Gabby was working with Tony to

(35:50):
get information about Titan so that he could blackmail Titan
into the unmergering or getting both companies whatever with the
promise of being CEO. Well he louched on that deal,
made theo CEO. But Gabby has Gaby she yes, yes,

(36:12):
is a separate company now. It's her now, a separate
company from Demira antit. Yes, yeah, exactly underneath.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Which is never which I don't think has been the case,
or if it was ever the case, I think it
was only ever the case in the beginning. And then
she folded into Demarra and it's been under Demera ever since,
and she's always she's been trying to wrestle back control
of the company ever since.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Got it okay, okay, so yeah, it works out for everybody.
She's got her company, they got their companies.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
She's very much a full reset. Although this week I
did get annoyed when she was talking to Philip. It
was like, well, I am a business woman, so make
me an offer. I was like, no, no, no, please
like you you finally got Kabby, She to yourself, do
not make an offer for Titan. Was like she was
trying to like I don't know, maybe because of the

(37:02):
mixed and feelings with Philip, or she was or maybe
she was trying to think. I'm you know, trying to
think business wise like I need I need some cash,
maybe an infusion, but like Philip told her, we're not
in a position to even offer you anything to bring
you into the fold of this company.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's not, which is fine because then they can keep
doing their little business in the bedroom. Yeah, no conflict there.
As long as he never finds out that she was
the corporate spire, all things are good.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Well, yeah, there's there's always that outlier secret.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
And now THEO knows about and THEO knows about it,
so yeah, so she's trying to keep it.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
She's trying to convince THEO to keep it. Yeah, which that.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Was was any Did anyone else find that strange? I
was like, but she like, I don't know. I felt
like it was weird that he sort of brought that up,
or like it was even on the table to even
like expose her. I'm like, well, technically she's the reason
you have demre Like, do you know what I mean?
It seemed weird for them to be arguing over that
secret or point when she did it essentially not solely

(38:11):
for them, but again they are the benefactor of her,
of her doing it in the first place, so it
seemed weird to have it on the table of like
a secret that THEO could expose her. It was like, well, no,
you're on you two were technically on the same team here,
like yeah, you know, threatening to expose her. It just
seemed weird to me. But again, they seemed like they

(38:33):
came to an understanding about it. I just didn't like that.
It seemed like this is something in the back pocket
that can be exposed by that. It seemed to me
Theo's positions should have been like, of course, I'm never
gonna say anything like you did what you did, so
now you know we have our family company back you
know you're all right with me. It just seemed weird
that I don't know, it was a bone of contention

(38:55):
for a second between them. I didn't get that.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I I think it's a sign that THEO is a
lot savvier than a lot of people are giving him
credit for, and that this is a new THEO. This
is a much more not just business savvy THEO, but
maybe trying to find the right word because he's not

(39:21):
as bloodthirsty as his relatives. But he's not the little
boy that his father wants to make him out to be.
And I know that people are saying there there there
there's a there's a faction of people that would say
that THEO is going to this naively, that he has

(39:43):
no idea what he's signing up for, that you know,
people are going to try to control him. And it
could be true. However, I do think that they're underestimating
him to.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
A point absolutely. I I fuddy think this whole week,
the whole life, mixing an Abe and Paulina into the story.
I was one hundred percent on Paulina's side. I think
Abe is one hundred percent overreacting. I just think there's
so many different factors. One, I think some people were trying,

(40:15):
like when he brought up like oh, you know, he
brought up I think eight brought up Chanel and like
what would you do? And I was like, well, first
of all, that's a completely different situation. Chanelle is a
Demur by marriage. She married into this family a couple
of years ago. Paulina, yes, has her reservations about the Demurs,
but she very much has never been you know, she's

(40:37):
never sort of planted herself in between Johnny and his family.
She's been incredibly supportive of Johnny's stuff with EJ and
being a support for him. But but one THEO is.
First of all, THEO is a Demira, so that you
can't change that no matter how much you relent. He
was raised knowing he was a demurror. He was raised

(40:59):
with all of these people around him. Also, I think
we're forgetting.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
We're not.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
We're forgetting. But I feel like Abe's forgetting Like when Lexi. Yes,
Lexi went to the dark side that one time, but
for the majority of her knowing that she was Stefano's daughter,
which was what twenty something years before she eventually died.
Especially that last leg, I felt like she was in
an incredibly great place with her family, where she had

(41:25):
strict boundaries about what she would do and not do
regarding them. She had strict boundaries about how much she
let them into her life and vice versa. She had
strict boundaries about them influencing THEO, about her getting mixed
up in their stuff. And I felt like it was
a really great place for Lexi to be at. And
so I feel like Abe is like missing all of

(41:46):
that stuff he's missing that he's also missing. I was
thinking to myself of like, first of all, Tony say
what you want's but he's pretty much even keeled at
this point, like he can, he can get down and
dirty when he needs to be. But he's not. He's
not Andre Kristen is in jail. Ej is not part
of the company in Chad who he's never you know,

(42:08):
Abe has never had a problem with it, is very
fond of as his own business. You know, it just
seems I don't this like retreat of stay away from
the de mirror is they're going to hurt you. It
just seems a little bit much.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
It's not Ej.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
I disagree to a point. I do think at some
point he needs to let it go. But Abe has
history with the Demiras, even before Lexi, Like he knows Stephano,
he knows what this family can be capable of, even
before Lexi and her demirified personality came into the picture.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
So one on one hand, I can I can see.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Why he would be a little bit why he would
have reservations about his son going to work for that
company and what it does to people, seemingly does to
people to be a part of that, to be integrated
with that family, to be a part of that company.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
And Paulina's point, she doesn't have that history.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
She only has a couple of years of history with
the Demiras, mostly EJ and Johnny, so she doesn't have
the firsthand experience that he has.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So of course they're gonna they're gonna butt heads.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
I kind of saw both sides of it, Like I
honestly see why Abe is. He didn't need to be
so nasty with Yeah, I think I think his delivery
could have could have used some work. But I can
see both sides of it, and I can see why
Pauline would be like why not, like let him go?

Speaker 1 (43:40):
You know, he's an adult.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Let him And it's like Abe has this like thirty
some year history with this family, so so you know,
I can I can understand why. But you know, to
your point, Justin, at the end of the day, theo
is an adult. He can do what he wants, He
can do what he wants to do. And yes, was
not as dastardly. She had her moments, but she was

(44:03):
not as as villainous as the Demiras can get.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, I mean it's not that the fear and the
anxiety that Abe is feeling is without merit. However, like
you said, it's the delivery. It's the it's the blame
game that he wants to put on it. Oh it's

(44:31):
Oh Tony shouldn't have done this, Oh Paulina shouldn't have
done that. Your son is a grown man. He can
make his own decisions. Now. You can decide to fight
him every step of the way and isolate him, or
you can say I'm going to be there for you
no matter how this shakes out.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah, And to its point, I think I would feel
differently about this if like Stefano was still alive. Yes,
if was a part of this, I would totally be
I would actually find myself more on ape side. But
I think this is a different iteration of that. So
I kind of feel like, Abe, you're still holding onto
the Stefano andre ej at his worst kind of days

(45:13):
as opposed to looking at the Demurr family as it
is now. And yes, I do think there is always
room to corrupt. But I also think like THEO is
a Demurra, So unless you're gonna lock him in a
tower and not have him, my thing is like he
could also be corrupted not working for them, you know
what I mean? Like THEO has a strong relationship with
these people. He if he's not working with them. He

(45:37):
may live in that house. He may go and be,
you know, be amongst family with them like he always
was before. So I kind of think like his approach
should be a little bit more even keeled. I also think,
do you guys remember when Kristen was pretending to be
in a coal and of course because she was pretending
to be in the coal, she was acting erratic an Abe.

(45:58):
Do you guys remember Abe starting working at Demira.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
To oh yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
And I feel like, not that he should be doing
that this time, not that he should be like I
want to I want to work at Tamia too, But
I feel like his approach back then made more sense
of like, yeah, let me let me come at this
a different place. He didn't send a cold down and
scream at her and say you can't work for the Demiras,
I'm your pseudo father, I bandon you know, I forbid

(46:24):
you from it. No, he found he found a more
even killed way to sort of do it. And I
feel like this is where I think Abe's wisdom should
be coming in and he should be maybe advising THEO
on ways he can sort of redo Demira, because ideas
like he's coming in THEO is a good guy. He's
going to help change demir around. Well, help him with that,

(46:44):
like maybe not officially like as an employee, but like
be supportive of that of like, I see what you're doing, son,
I see you're trying to like change your family name
so it means something better in the community. I don't know,
I feel like his approach is just a little fire
and brimstone and like calm down, a.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Little harsh little heart.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
But but you know, it's it's very it's at the
very beginning stages of this, like he still has a
chance to to soften to it and to take what
Paulina is saying and what THEO is saying to heart,
and maybe, you know, maybe some maybe realize that he
just kind of needs to let it happen and let
THEO discover for himself, and yeah, support him along, you know,

(47:25):
support him along the way and be a be a
shoulder when he needs one, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, that being said, if Abe continues on this blaming
Paulina train and begin and continues to raise his voice
and to continues to spout out words like like betrayal. Uh, Paulina,
you have my full blessing to put that man on
the couch.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Will oh yeah, like Paulina's Paulina doesn't you know, she
doesn't put up with ship.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
The best way to say.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
It, yeah, you don't talk to your wife like that.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Ironically, I find, buddy, I find well, this to be
the most rational in like Paulina has ever been on
the show in the last five years, Like you know
what I mean, Like usually it's it's her being hysterical
or being excited about something, and I'm like, no, Paulina
is making complete sense to me. Like THEO came to her,

(48:23):
she gave him really good sound advice and she wasn't
also like, oh my god, go do it. Go be
a demyror, embrace it like she you know, she gave
him some warning. She listened to him as an adult
and said, you can do some real good here. I
trust you, and you know, I'm I'm it's supportive you
and I'm waiting for aid to like get that and

(48:44):
you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, I mean, let's be clear. Her daughter has lived
in the Demara house longer than THEO has. THEO never
lived a day of his life in that house. Chanel
was there for for dang on years. And you know
what she was. She was there to support her daughter,

(49:07):
even if she disagreed with it, Even though she hates
EJ with every fiber of her being, she supported her daughter.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, I mean it's a hopefully he'll come
I mean, I'm sure come around or be proven right
or something. I don't know. I just think like you
have to like like and also.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Like let it happen, let it, let it happen, yeah,
and try to relax about it, and then if shit
goes down, just try to be there for him, you know.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, and also nothing else but like, feel's not perfect
like every you know, everyone makes mistakes. Everyone who knows
if maybe THEO ends up being a little bit cutthroat,
now do you do you automatically ascribe that to oh,
he's being influenced by the demis like maybe, you know,
I think you're coming at it from this idea that
your son is like perfection. Yeah, you know, he's so

(49:56):
sweet and nice. It's like, yeah, he's a great guy.
That doesn't translate to I think what we saw of
him this week with Xander, I think was a perfect example.
He came in, it was like, hey, I'm here to
help make this smoother. And then when I think Xander
quipps something back, he says, oh, no, don't make don't
don't mistake me. I'm gonna make sure Demira is number one,

(50:18):
like healthy competition. But I'm not here to like sabotage you.
I'm not here to do some like corporate espionage espionage stuff.
So I feel like that's that's the Theo. I think
that is needed. Like you want someone who's tough, who's
like not afraid of competition. He's not backing down from
Xander or Philip or Alex. He's you know, he's he's

(50:41):
ready to go toe to toe with them. And I
think that's great. I just I feel like Abe would
look at that scene and think, oh, Theo's getting corrupted,
look at him changing. It's like, no, he's he's becoming
his own person. He's not you know, little THEO who's
running around, who's you know, afraid to interact with people
because of his autism or for you to get close

(51:01):
to people like that that THEO was in. You know,
he's he's that deal doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yes, And I credit I do credit Tony for recognizing
that for actually this wasn't a you know, this wasn't
an impromptu move on Tony's part. He looked at the
way that the family is right now. He looked at
what was needed and I mean they think he explained it.

(51:27):
It made me chuckle when he explained it to EJ perfectly,
was like, well, why wasn't Johnny in the wedding? And
He's like, uh, have you seen yourself?

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Really?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Really?

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Even Johnny would be like, no, Johnny's never had an
interest either, Like it's not even no offense against Johnny.
It's just it's not it's always been.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
There's always been EJ. It's like it's like E's a
dance mom.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
He wants his mom to live out his idea of success.
And Johnny's like, nah, I'm cool. Yeah, I'll just I'll
just shoot videos over it tight and thank you very much, right, yes,
which you'll be.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
So I'm I'm interested in this. I feel like, like you
said you guys said earlier, this is like a reset now.
So like with Tamira's Titans with the Curious Gabby as
her company and will maybe we'll see how they fight
each other moving forward or whatever the conflict or business
storylines will get out of this, but I'm looking forward
to it. Yeah yeah, okay, Onto.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
No, just to answer del fans question, I mean he
could try, but it's like any parental moves that EJ
has done and any recently is just been fail fail
fail fail. Like you can't even hold a conversation with
his son right now, So.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Leave Johony alone. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're already in
hot water.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Your opinion is not needed EJ on this or any
other subject.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Just chill out like things will slowly work themselves out. Okay,
just give give Johnny some space and not Yeah, don't
make this another.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Parent can't help themselves, but try to hover when what
will get results is giving them space.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yeah yeah, okay. Onto our last top storyline here. This
one is Secrets are out, and this is two different secrets.
This is the Xander Sarah Philip Maggie side of it,
and then of course the Stephanie Alex Kayla Anastasia. I
keep want to say, Anastasia paper Housing, Anastasia Sands.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
The whole town's gonna know the secret be for this
goddamn book line, know, Oh god, Okay, let's let's do that.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Since we just let's do the Stephanie Anastasia sands secret. First, Yeah,
what do we do? Just just put it in the spectator.
Let's let him do seriously, just under the tower and
town Square and screaming out, why don't you.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Another business decision that works out for everyone?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yeah, I mean crew, even tight ass.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Julie's on board with it.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
See look, where's where's the harm? Where's the where's the fire?
I don't see it?

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Oh god?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
And she grits her, I know where the fire is.
Those fella.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Okay, let me let me ask you guys about that. Okay.
So so we're going through now all week of people
in invertently finding out if first it was Julie, then
then she tells Chanel, then Johnny finds out. Then it's
revealed that Philip knows. The Alex stuff. Kind of threw
me for a loop literally at the end there. I

(54:50):
didn't get it, of all the things, to be weirded
out or to now be jealous about it, like that's it,
that's it, that's I see.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
I thought, I was like, oh, yeah, this is the
This tracks with Alex. Alex's personality, like he under okay,
so though he understands that his lady has had suitors
in the past, we'll call them.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
He doesn't.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
He is now face to face with one every day
and has now read oh too now and has now
read exactly what happened betwixt her, and Yeah, I can understand.
I guess I can understand why he he has a
little bit of the ick with it.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, he'll get over it, though, get over it.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
It's it's it's like it's it's a minor, it's a
drop in the bucket. It's it's it's just a little
startling to him because he he was he was dealing
with the Jeremy aspect of it. Uh, you know, going
with the assumption that Jeremy was the one who told
Leo that Jeremy is the problem, no knowing the exact
scene that Stephanie based off her interactions with Jeremy. So

(56:05):
he was kind of his brain was busy dealing with
that that it was the stuff with with Philip that
just kind of blindsided him. He'll get over it quickly.
It's Jeremy is still really kind of the main forefront
problem in his mind.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I think that's why it threw me, because I think
when it came up in the boardroom when they were
trying to tell Johnny, I thought it again. It was
awkward of course when he was like wait, you know,
and then you know, he described how he put it together,
which is like, I mean, duh, like we've already he
just found out that Jeremy put it together from you know,

(56:42):
why why wouldn't Philip, I guess. But I thought it
was just going to be the awkward moment and then
you know, it would let it pass by. I feel
like he extended it and made it a thing. It's like,
I don't know, like this is one this is your
cousin the fact that you've shared women just in general,
you need to you should have already been gotten over that.
So I don't know, like, of course he's in the book,

(57:06):
you know, And if he's not in the book, they
still had a relationship. They were engaged years ago. Like
I don't know, this seemed weird to me. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
It may have been like it may have been something
that he realized but just blissfully ignored it or just
didn't until until that moment in the office with Philip.
He may have just been, you know, aware of it,
but not I don't know. I don't know it didn't,
but all it didn't bother me or seemed weird to me.

(57:35):
I was just like, Okay, yeah, Alex's gonna be bothered
by it because you knew his one, you know, in detail.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Now it's real.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
It's not just something you know, you know happened, but
it's real. It's in your face now, you know. Someone
to Chad not make the book was like, well, yeah,
we need to discuss when we think when it was
said that she wrote this book, Yeah, he could have

(58:04):
written it during the time she that Stefan the character
was off, And yeah, I I got the the intention
the excuse me, sorry, that not the intention. The idea
that I got about when the book was written was
during the time when we weren't seeing Stephanie before she

(58:24):
came back and had the Alex and Chad relationships. That
it was kind of it kind of seemed like it
was something she wrote then tucked away and forgot about.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
For But she's also been doing editing on the book
since it became part of you know, being published with Kate,
and also who knows what she added to it. Who
knows if Evert's not in the book, you know, like
she's not naming people, of course by name, and it's
not direct. You know, she's not writing about specific romances
all the time, so it seems it just seems like

(58:54):
specific sexual encounters that people are trying to figure out
who is who kind of a thing. So I don't know,
Like I said, I never really bought into the fact
of this would ruin her pr image. So I don't know.
I never thought it was that big of a deal
to be enough of a secret.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I guess I'm I'm happy that no one's yet really
shamed her for you know what I mean, They've all
been kind of accepting. I would expect at least there
should be at least one naysayer in the bunch. Now
who that would be, I don't know, but I feel
like there needs to be at least one detractor.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I think we got that a little bit with EJ.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
It'll be Jennifer.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I mean, I think I think we got a little
bit of that with EJ. But I don't I don't
think it's going to be that thing that is going
to ruin her like she thought. Like even Kayla said
last week, like, look, your dad will blush a little
bit when when the truth comes out. But he's but
you're I mean, you're a best seller author. He there's

(01:00:01):
no reason to not be proud of that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Missus missus Choy is not going to shame her. Missus
Toy was almost getting her jollyes off in the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I think missus Toy is actually going to publicly say
that she has she has read the material that is
in the book.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
She was reading it in public.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
They're just like, oh, yeah, listen, Julie's just Julie's focusing
on her you know, book saying so she's not she
doesn't give its just like you want to make another
appearance next week so I could weekly reading.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
The story. Yeah, yeah, okay, I wasn't even thinking Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Steve doesn't know yet, right, No, he as the dad
is going to be that that that makes complete. He's
not a naysayer, but he's going to be he's going
to be bothered by it because.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
That's that's the little girl.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
He doesn't need.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
He can know that she's a woman and that that
it doesn't need to be you know, he doesn't need
to read about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Yeah, it's more embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
It's not embarrassing that she wrote it. It's embarrassing that
he read it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yeah, it's like if you were an actor did a
sexy it's like, yeah that I'm proud of it, but
you may not sit down your parents to say watch this,
you know. It's like yeah, But I'm more interested in
her when she finds out, because I feel like it's
gonna come to a head because the prevalent thought is
that it's Jeremy and when she finds out that it's

(01:01:36):
actually ej. I mean, Leo is sort of the lynchpin here,
so I feel like it needs to come from and
it seems like they built they they went back this week,
which actually liked about him and Stephanie being friends because
they did start to get close during the Body and
Soul stuff, and I feel like since then they've dropped it.

(01:01:56):
And they also dropped They also brought up like her
friendship with Channell again this which I was like, oh, yeah,
I forgot, Like I forget like she's friends with these
people because we never see or interact with them anymore
and we haven't sent the body and some little stuff.
So yeah, I did at least like the Leo stuff,
but I did think like, okay, well you know, we
used to be such good friends. Okay, now, like, are

(01:02:17):
you going to tell her the truth now when things
start getting crazy when she starts throwing around these Jeremy
accusations or accuses you of of you know, getting information
from him, are you going to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I need to remind her?

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
How so, how did the reveal of her being anistate?
She admitted it to EJ? Yeah, she admitted it to
EJ because he was accusing Caleb too much internet bandwidth
and so he she did it to come to the
defense of her mom.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
How did Leo found out from EJ? Because Leo was
onto EJ's secret plot kind of a thing about the hospital,
so he was like that scent. Okay, let me give
you a bigger scoop that right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Okay, it was his attempt to throw which did not work.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
And the whole thing about they're just assuming she's just
assuming Jermy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Was the rat.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Yeah, because he knows he's in the book. But yeah, exactly, yeah,
thank you, Yeah, m.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Hm thatts are all connected?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah, no, se and then the only reason she thinks
because he's new in town and who else could it be?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Kind of a thing?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
But yeah, got it? Okay, cool, yeah, yeah, onto our
second Onto our second secret, that is the Xander, Sarah, Philip, Maggie,
a little bit of more Lena.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
It needed to happen, like it needed to happen, this
this relationship that we root for between Xander and Lynds, Xander.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
And Sarah like it. As long as that secret was
hanging up there, It's just it was not gonna last.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
And the further it went, the worse it was going
to get. And to Sarah's like, Sarah, you know obviously
read him the Riot Act. You know, you let me
apologize to you, blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
She I.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
I can't not defend her obviously for being upset about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
It and for wind fal for divorce. Now do we think, Like,
I guess I can see why she's like, oh, well,
what if I make you that mad? What if Victoria makes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
You that mad?

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
And and and you know you're like, okay, girl, he's
not this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Is Philip like, but I can see I can understand
why that she has that fear, Like, do I think
she's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
I hesitate to think that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
She's overreacting to this because it's just another example of
it's too much trust ruined.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Yeah, unfortunately, as which as.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
I want, as much as I love them together and
want them to be a couple and rooting for Xander
and Xander for all of the progress he's made, this
is the one, like, the one infraction, but unfortunately it's
it's a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Every you know, no marriage has a simple set of rules.
Everybody has, you know that one thing that they will
or won't tolerate in their marriage, and for many people,
violence is that thing. Uh, you know, rightfully. So the

(01:05:40):
issue with Sarah is always that this is always who
Xander has been.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
You have you have? You have?

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
You knew all of his crimes, many of them were violent,
happened before he even met you, and you still married
him twice and chose to have a child with him
and raised that child together. And the argument that you

(01:06:12):
had ample warning and still chose made a decision for
yourself and your child to be with this man, and
then went around and said, oh, but I thought he
would change, not on your side on that one. That
one's on you. Sorry he did.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
It's frustrating because he did change, and it was just
this one giant infraction, but it's just the trust has
been broken. From both sides the relationship and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Now it's just here's another one and so like and
you know, yeah, it's just a shitty situation. But I
can I understand I understand Sarah's it's more. I think
it's just disappointed, you know, obviously disappointment, and it's just
there was no the hope was lost, like there needs

(01:07:09):
to be now that I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Think everything is out between them at.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Least right, like now everything is out now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Everything is out, like like there's not something Sarah did
that we don't like that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
We know that thing's out right now. Everything's out right now.
So if they have hope to rebuild, maybe, you know,
couples get divorced and remarried in real life and on
the show. So maybe, as we were talking about Holly
and what's his face taking a break, Sarah and Xander
need a break and whether that's a divorce for a while,

(01:07:41):
you know, it's you know, it's needed with these two.
There's just been too much, too much between them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Yeah, I agree. I think there's a level of gas
lighting that has been happening the last few weeks regarding Sarah,
that she has a genuine reason to be pissed about
because get this, this this revelation brings them back to
square one where they were at what eight weeks ago
or whatever it was. I think the difference now in
her reaction is, like you said, Michael, complete disappointment. It

(01:08:14):
wasn't screaming, yelling, It was really like what the hell?
I just like I just started to like forgive you.
You obviously forgave me. We were moving forward with things,
and you're still doing it like you're still doing it.
I also think there's a statue of limitations. I think, yeah,

(01:08:34):
I agree with you Ricelli in terms of once you
get with him, you have to let go of the
other stuff. But also if the person continues to do
that behavior even after they're with you, then it's hard
not to bring up the other stuff at least to
sort of reveal a pattern or to try and get
through to the person of like, yeah, limit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
And I think in terms of divorce, I agree. In
terms of her making a choice that she doesn't want
to continue to put up with that behavior and her marriage,
that's fine if that's a choice you make, okay. But
in terms of Victoria, oh, in terms of the company,

(01:09:18):
I hope she doesn't start taking those steps, because that's
not an argument you're gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
I hope not. And I'm glad that this iteration she
didn't mention Victoria because I was like, oh, please, don't
go back to the custody thing. And I feel like
maybe that's that's what's going to be different here. I
feel like the Victoria stuff I'm hoping is off the table,
and that she's just saying I don't want you. I
want to move forward with the divorce. You know, we'll

(01:09:43):
keep whatever the custody agreement we have we still have
with Victoria because he moved in five seconds ago, so
there's still up until up until they slept together three
days ago, they were still with this custody arrange. So
I have hope that because that's where her mind, she
didn't go there, that that's not We're not getting a

(01:10:05):
custody We're not getting Victoria's custody battle now for the
third time. We had it once before they were married,
we had it, we had it three months ago, and
I hope we're not getting it again. So I hope
at least that's the bridge they've crossed that Victoria isn't
an issue, and it really is. The disappointment of I
was we were just starting to do it like right

(01:10:28):
this time and actually get counseling in.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
You know, I don't know, do we think there's a
little debate in the chat about should Maggie have brought
it up or should she have just let it come
out on its own. I kind of and and maybe
I just appreciated the scenes as they were, but like,

(01:10:52):
you know, now, because I feel like it was a
very mother thing to do, to be like, okay, you're
we're starting this over.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Are you sure? You're everything's out in the open? Are
you sure?

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
And she brought up She's like, yeah, you came home
that day and your hands were all bloody, and you know,
I feel like it was reasonable for her to just
be like, okay, before we now we're starting this trajectory again,
before we go full ahead with it, anything you need
to say, like I, you know, I and you know,

(01:11:27):
she mentioned I got used to, you know, seeing the
signs with Victor when he would do something that when
he was keeping something from me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
I I thought it was reasonable of her, and I
don't know, I didn't have a problem with her doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
But apparently some people do Yeah for me, apparently everybody
in the chat room.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I was actually glad she brought up this is this
has been like a little bit of a pet peeve
of mine. This best that I felt like her and
Sarah for quote unquote for Gabe Xander too quickly once
Phillip said it wasn't me, it wasn't him, they completely
shifted and I was like, wait, why you've been so
adamant that it's been him. You've seen evidence that it's
been him. He all but said, even in their fights

(01:12:11):
and in their arguments, he's basically, you know, without saying
I did it, he's basically almost sort of admitted he
did it. So for them, whenever they did the one eighty,
originally it was kind of like, oh, that doesn't make
much sense. So this made sense to me. Maggie's saying
we were sort of going along because you know, we
got the family and we're trying to make things right.

(01:12:33):
And I also think it makes sense in terms of
I think I maybe even said this weeks ago, like
if if him and Sarah aren't together, then who cares
about the secret? Do you know what I mean? It
doesn't offend me, It doesn't offend me that he's lying
to her about the Phillip stuff if they're not a couple.
But now they're coming back together, they're sleeping together, he's

(01:12:56):
now moving into the house in a guest room, but
he's back in the house. They're seeing they're seeing Marlena
for a couple counseling. So I think at that point
you kind of everything has to come to a head
in a way. And it's I mean, I applaud Maggie
for kind of pushing the issue of being like something
is it still sitting right here? You probably did it,
so just kind of admit it so we can all

(01:13:18):
move on. And I don't know if she I don't
know if Maggie one hundred knew that Sarah would want
a divorce. Maybe she thought, well, at you know, you're
going to couples counseling, maybe like, you know, be honest,
maybe we might have a different outcome here. I don't know.
I don't think. I don't think her goal was tell

(01:13:40):
the truth so my daughter can dump you, you know
what I mean. I don't think that was her her agenda.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
No, I don't think it was her agenda to break
them up. Yeah, No, No, it was just the agenda,
like if you're going to start again, yeah, but fresh,
and that means all your all your business needs to
be out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Yeah, that's that's how I enter.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
I appreciated the way the way Suzanne Rogers like acted
or the way she you know, the way she was
Maggie in those scenes. And Paul I felt this was
a great week for him just off of his his
Emmy win last week obviously you know, wasn't planned that way,
but you know we got some some good stuff from
him this week.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Yeah, Well I think you guys said it all there
and uh, you guys said that perspective, and the other
perspective was it was a very very loud tirade by
my aunt and my cousin last night with it on
Team Xander.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
I watched it. I watched it before the before the show.
That was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Yes. Uh So, all I will say is my opinion,
as it were, I think is going to depend on
what happens next.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yeah, I mean, we'll see, We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
On what decisions Maggie and Sarah and Xander choose to
make next. Do they choose to keep this peaceful? Do
they choose to say this is where I leave you.
I can't put up with this behavior, or do they
all choose to overreact and take unnecessary steps that hurt

(01:15:26):
their personal relationships, hurt the business relationships, because that's the
part that I'm not on board with.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
The business relationships may be interesting because now it's like
Xander was the offender, but now they also have Philip
who was lying and being dishonest and saying that Xander
didn't attack him, and now she now Maggie's in business
with both of them, And.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
That might be the one positive that has come out
of all of this is that Philip has genuinely forgiven Xander.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Yea, they.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Went to like who'd have thought that would and they
you know, some some bro time and beers and I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I'm I'm I'm not a male, but I know of
very I know some heterosexual males that that's that's just
what they do. I mean, not to like beat you
up to the point of almost killing you, but that's
how they choose to. Like they get aggressive with each
other and then it's done and then yeah, and then

(01:16:33):
they're cool and I mean, like, look like it's not
the way I would settle on argument. It's not necessarily
what I would call healthy. But if at the end
of the day, they're cool and it works for them
and nobody's picking up that argument years later as a dig,
then I mean, who am I to say that it
doesn't work. It seems it seems that that is the

(01:16:54):
case here. They seem to have put it behind them.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Yeah, just I just hope that, you know, Maggie doesn't
Maggie doesn't go in and try to be like, well,
now that y'all are raggedy, I'm I'm running things or
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
I hope that she you know, I hope that it's
more of a yeah, we have our issues.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
We need to keep it separate from We need to
try to keep it separate from the business to save Titan.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Yeah, well we'll see. Yeah, we're looking forward to help
both those the secret these quote unquote secrets which are
finally well. Stephanie still has a little bit more revealing
to do, but for the most part it's out because
it's half of Salem knows now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
I was a one, one last thing, and then we
can we can move on.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
I expected there once, like Chanel and Johnny separately, new
I was like, oh, are they going to make this
a cute little thing between them?

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Like they go home and they're like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Well, how was your day? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Fine, how was your day?

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
And then they'll both realize together that but no, it
was really kind of yeah. I was like, oh I
told shell, Oh I told Johnny and like no, okay,
it didn't have to be like a big thing, but
it was like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
They know and they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Lea had a good line to describe it this week
that you know, once more than two people know a secret,
it's no longer a secret. It's it's a it's a
plate of our drves being passed around.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Yeah. True, yeah, mm hmm. Well that was your top
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(01:19:11):
check out our former co host, James Lott Junior on
his channel Jail Joe Media, where he covers the rest
of the soap block j Janie, Wrestless and Beautiful now
be on the Gates, and of course a lot of
his enemy coverage that he had last week as well. Yeah,
so getting into our two tobits today. First one is

(01:19:32):
Mark Green is released. Finally we Mark is back in
the picture here, played by the original actor that played Yes. Yes, yeah, yes,
this was news to me at.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Least I didn't realize this actor was.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
I didn't realize we were getting Mark on screen like
they had built up to it. But usually you know,
there's i mean even eight nine months ago, I don't
remember them dropping the news. So this was a this
is a pleasant surprise. And now we have like another
the other Green family member, and I'm curious, but I'm

(01:20:08):
intrigued by by this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yes, well, it's made all the more intriguing because it
would have been easy to have him go off, you know,
or come back off screen, find him with the mother,
but instead now he's going to be a character that
is put to use. People are asking why is he back, Well,
he's back because EJ heeds a patsy mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Yeah. I think he's back for a lot of different
I think he I think he's feeling a few different
for lack of a better term, holes here, because we
have the EJ stuff. EJ has now hired him to
do research for this secret the secret project, and he's
going to sign a non disclosure so and a funny thing,

(01:20:54):
I feel like it was. It was funny because Mark
was like, I don't want to get into any shady
stuff and then like it won't be and I'm thinking myself, yeah, yeah,
we still don't know. So I feel like EJ was
trying to say, like, your part won't be shady, like
you know what I mean, but the rest of the
stuff that we're doing is shady.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
But oh that's good, works clean.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
If that's I don't know. I feel like that's what
he was trying to say because Mark Mark specifically said
I can't get involved in anything crazy or shady, and
he's like, you'll be fine. I thought that was more
of like a yeah, I'm off this a bullshit. But
your stuff is legitimate, Like whatever whatever you research for
me will be legitimate, But what I do with that
information will be you know, I can't say. But we

(01:21:39):
also still don't know what it is. Like we know,
we know he's it's secretive, but we don't one hundred
percent know if it's illegal where we're assuming it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
But I'm I'm gonna assume, based on actually what you
just said justin I'm going to assume that maybe the
development of whatever he's doing is maybe not so legal,
but maybe that the end result would be if that makes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Sense, it's something for the greater good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
But he has to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Underhand, he has to cut. Yeah, yeah, he has to
do in a not so legal way that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Yeah, we'll so. I mean, he's still not a thorn
in the side, but complicates things a little bit even
if Chad and Kat aren't together. We saw Chad's reaction
and also, I'll just put this out there, we still
left his sexuality up to debate member last time. And

(01:22:39):
then there was that interaction with Leo where we were like, oh,
no or no, remember he was going to confess something
to Leo and then he immediately was like taken away
to prison, remember, because Leo assumed he was gay, and
then he was saying, I'm not gay. What are you
talking about? I'm not gay? And then there was that
scene where he was going to say something to Leo
and then make it their conversation. Yeah, so I think

(01:23:01):
he is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
I think also he may be coming in to stir
up some trouble with the other gay couple.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
You know, we know a lot of change.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
We're gonna have a change with one of the actors there,
so who knows how how things are going to play
out here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
So yeah, yeah, I mean it's never the Yeah, as
we said before, it's never the character. It's always you know,
the positions that you put the character in that makes
for a great return. And if you make good use
of Mark Green, there's a lot, there's a lot to
be done.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
And he's a solid, you know actor, He's got a
good presence on screen. So yeah, hopefully they utilize him
well properly.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Yeah, Kat is doing too much on her own, that's
the thing. Yeah, Cat Kat's shouldering seems to be shouldering
a lot right now with her siblings. Now Aaron might
be a dad, you know, she's been pretty much a
soul parent to Felicity, like she needs help.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Also, like, again we have the cat aspect of it
of she's quote unquote working for EJ, but really investigating him.
So now does she investigate her brother? Does this put
a strain on their sibling relationship?

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Because you know, this is the part that actually very
much puzzled me. I assumed that the way this story
was going to go, that Mark would take the initiative
to go apologize to Chad and EJ, and that he

(01:24:30):
would then hit up EJ for a job and then
after the fact tell his sister. I did not anticipate
that Kat would encourage Mark to go to EJ when
she already knows that he's doing shady things at the hospital.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Well, and that depends I thought she. I thought she
was more like, he'll give you a research job. Or
remember we got the scene earlier where EJ was saying
the lab is short or you know, short of people,
qualified people, and Sarah was like on him about that.
That's what I thought she was alluding to, like we

(01:25:08):
need good people at the hospital. Not necessarily you would
work for EJ specifically, like in a sort of like
soul capacity I think if she thought that was gonna happen,
she probably wouldn't have suggested it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Yeah, it's still it was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
I think it was. I mean, it was kind of
a dumb move on her part to not think that
he might rope Mark into something shady.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
Because or I mean, because it's like she could be
being another another in another another another person to gather info.
But again, would she put her brother in that predicament.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
I don't think she would have a choice.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Unless and then someone in the chatter.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
What if there's a deal behind the scenes that we
don't know that he you know, I don't know if
that that may be out there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Yeah, I mean I don't know if I don't know
if he would be like I mean, this seems like
on the up and up right now. But if he
if he just pulls him into something shady and Kats
gets wind of it, she's not gonna have a choice
but to try to bring Mark in and use him
in order to save his butt, because he's still on parole.

(01:26:21):
He literally just cut out on parole. He can't. The
only way that he comes out of this if he
is if he fully cooperates with the authorities because otherwise
e J is going to is going to use him
and then discard him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Yeah, h yeah, I mean yeah, the character, there's there's
many different options for this character to go with that.
We also got speaking of Jeremy earlier, we got Thomas
in Jeremy or Jeremy giving Thomas a little perspective here

(01:26:59):
on on dating, in adult dating and his dad, you
know what Chad might be going through here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
It was and this is where it gets complicated because
I think we just have we had such strong opinions
about Jeremy the character we knew, and everything about Jeremy
now is so unknown that it's it's like what I
mean the advice he gave to Thomas with sound this week,

(01:27:30):
the conversation that they had with Chad was really just
spot on, Yeah, spot on calling out. I mean he
called them all out, Julie, Jack, Jennifer's like, they all
have skeletons in their closet that we would they would
rather not bring up facts.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
I think what's interesting too, especially with the Chad stuff,
is they're they're slowly forming this friendship with them, but
then it's also waiting for the other shoe to drop
of Chad finding out the Stephanie history here, So I
think there's I'm wondering how they're gonna play that. Do
we come out of this with either Chad like getting

(01:28:13):
close to Jeremy and then either feeling betrayed, or do
we come out of this with Chad as Jeremy's biggest
supporter now thinking he's changed and he's a different person
and differently and I love you, steph but he's not
that say you know what I mean? Does a way?
I don't know how that would go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
They gest supporter, No, because that's Julie always will be.
Julie has never met a hort and that she won't support.
They could be a murderer, rapist, whatever, She's never met
a hort in that she wouldn't support.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
I don't know. I think Jeremy is gonna need some out.
If Jeremy truly has changed, or even honestly, even if
he hasn't, then this is a at least a storyline
that he's fooling people. I think he's gonna need some
support in Salem, and that's got to come from more
than just Julie. I think so. Maybe I don't know,
Maybe Chad does become a supporter.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Of his or I mean, his brother is a j. Demarra,
so mhmm. It's not like it's not like he hasn't
done that before.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Mm hmm. But also the question of does he not
deserve a second chance to like, like, you know, at
least maybe not for Stephanie. I don't I think that's
totally no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
No, no, no, no no. Stephanie as his victim one,
she is one hundred percent within her rights to never
want to see Hay's face again. Yeah, that being said,
public opinion, Yeah, public opinion. I mean even Stephanie would
agree that that's that's not hers to say.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, I'm I'm I'm intrigued. I
still think we, like I said, a lot of Jeremy
is still unknown. Is he has he changed? Is he
still the person he was before?

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
But also, I it's this thing that they do sometimes.
He also doesn't have to be perfect either, do you
know what I mean? He just doesn't have to be
the person he was before. So you know, maybe he's
a little bit mischievous, maybe he's you know, maybe he's
a good guy overall, but he's not going to take
any of Alex's shit or you know what I mean,

(01:30:19):
it doesn't it doesn't have to be an either, or
he doesn't have to be the villain in the main
villain in stephanely his life, or he doesn't have to
be reinvented as some angel who rescues puppies every day.
You know, it's like he could still be a complicated
person just as well, because he's not evil.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
I do want to bring up one scene that was
I think it would because I think it aired last
week that we didn't get to talk about that, because
I think we all were kind of like we had
it yet seeing Alex and Jeremy interact before, and there
was some worry that Alex might overreact, and I don't.
I still don't think he has. I don't think he's

(01:30:56):
overreacted at all. He's very He's just been very protective
of stuff me. But one of the things that I
clocked in their first interaction was did you see that
Rafe was in the room And Rafe's face kind of
perked up at the pub at the pub, yes, that interaction,
and so I I I remember it just because it

(01:31:19):
was it's a reminder to keep everybody keep their eyes open,
that it's not just Alex and Stephanie in their immediate
circle that is that is watching this guy. Steve has
now officially put Raife on the case. He's asked Rafe
to investigate Jeremy. So slowly but surely, you know, it's
not just the immediate circle and the people that care

(01:31:42):
about Stephanie that are going to start creeping into this.
There are gonna be others that are there that are
watching this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Mm hmmm. And there's also I mean, Rafe was also
around back then too. Maybe I don't have known what
interaction he had with Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
He wasn't on he was no, he wasn't He wasn't
around then.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Rafe wasn't No.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Raf was not no.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Two thousand and not late two thousand and eight, early
two thousand and nine was when Rafe came on. Jeremy
was gone by then.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Okay, Jeremy wasn't on that that long? Was he like
six months?

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Maybe it was.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
It was very painful for some.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
Reason, I remember chatting Gabby. Weren't there. I just thought
for some reason Rape was around back then, But I
guess not.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Yeah, Ray, Rafe and Lindsay Hartley, who did she play Arianna?

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Yeah, all after Passions was flushed, and then Eric martinsof
came on as Brain.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
That all happened around the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
It was, they all. They all came on in like
October November of two thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Yeah. Jeremy was gone about a year from Salem. I
want to say, so.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
There it seems like they're making sort of this point
that is Stephanie the only one, but she can't because
again we know that Stephanie kept the Jeremy stuff, that
part of it somewhat secret. But also Jeremy was not
a beloved character back then, so trying to think who

(01:33:17):
was around that even still just in general was around
then that still was like Jeremy, you're an asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
I know you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
You know, they don't know what he did to Stephanie.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
But aside from the whore ends, not many. Yeah, because
Bow and Hope. Bow and Hope were around back then,
but they were but they're gone.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
Yeah, I guess, Yeah, I guess a lot of people around.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
From that time that at least would have I would
have had even peripheral knowledge of.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Yeah, maybe that's why I thought rape was around then,
because that that that that interaction he or that Facy made,
I thought like, oh he remembers Jeremy, but I guess
not very many people do that were around and even
because even Rome Man was like good to see you,
kid or whatever, and it was like, oh, like he
was an asshole back then when you knew him too.
So I mean, he was never a great guy, like

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even even though they don't know what he did to Stephanie,
he was a bit of an aspect.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Then even well, I mean, and that's the thing about time.
It's like this, this is coming up on almost twenty
years ago. So of course it's like you that's the
way you would greet anyone who saw like maybe you
wouldn't have the fonnest memories of him, but you wouldn't
outright treat him as an asshole coming into the pub.
It's only the people who have been told, no, he

(01:34:37):
was much worse than you think.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
M Yeah, is that? Oh no. We also got the
in addition to this is kind of roped in here,
we got Leo and Rita and of course Jay thrown
in there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Kind of I think I've been waiting and I think
I just didn't realize that they never had a scene together,
the Leo and Rita interaction.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Sleep. He's like, nope, it was a good one to
see she's on top of this project and she's she's
still around. She's behind the scenes sort of doing her magic.
And I don't want to make I want to make
a correction. Someone corrected us earlier. It was it was
Leo was onto the Rachel secret and that's what EJ
was throwing him off with.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Oh yeah, and I remember because I remember because if
we had been on last week, that would have been
my it's a gift that that face, that that that
he met, that was that was the quickest reaction that
I think I've ever seen from.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Each Yeah, that's right, because Leo was asking him about
being shot or like are they closing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
So fast?

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Yeah? Yeah, thanks shot for reminding us. I was like, yes, yeah, yeah,
good to see Rita is still around and popping back
in and up to no good and she's it's funny
because it's nice to have it's nice to have a
Demira Henchman back again. I mean we you know, we
were from the days of like bart In Martin, Doctor Rolf,

(01:36:15):
which can be so silly and I like that she's
she's a little bit quirky, but she's also on top
of things, and like it makes sense that she was
Stefano's sort of secretary attracts. So I like that she's.
I think that she's you know, she's, she's, she's she's
essentially is a bad character. I mean, let's be real.

(01:36:36):
To be able to do the things that she does
with and to be able to do them with ease,
she is, But they've infused her with enough enough likability
that we sort of we like seeing her when she
pops up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Yeah, tis the season for our love of villains.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Yes, and of course you know we love you guys
love her too, since you gave her Edition Day's Award
for best news of her. So yeah, so we're here's
to see more Maggie Carter. She's great as Rita. Yeah,
and that's been our least. For our last tidbit, here
we have Bell's birthday, which was a whole bunch of

(01:37:14):
this was Bell Brady, Marlena Tate, Rachel. There were a
couple of different storylines here, sort of emerging on this
one event here at at at the Brady Pub.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
With the best thing about this story.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
This Part of the story this week was Marlena's reaction
when Rachel was giving Bell her gift.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
Marlne because marlet you know, Marlena knows everything about Rachel
and the rape. Rachel, you know, shot a bitch up,
so like like she had this pensive look on her face, like,
oh God, what's she gonna do? Which but oh, I
want you to have great Grandpa baseball card because I
just thought you might want to feel cool. I'm like,
this manipulative little ship. I was like, like, that's what

(01:38:01):
I got from I was like this little brat.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Oh wait, you thought she was like playing something or
doing like wait, I.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
Just like Rachel like making Belle like, on one hand,
she's over at the Horton house with the other little
kid stirring up ship. Then she's going back and be
like I just thought you would want to be close
to Grandpa John today.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
And I'm like, you're such an evil little brat, Like
look at you. You're writing Belle into thinking that you're
this sweet little kid.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
At lighting her. She's she's she's she's a very complex
young girl. And yeah, she is a brat, is what
she is. She's a brat. She can also have a
genuine moment. Look, I am not doing Look I straight
up I will be manipulative as heck in my gift giving.
If I haven't given you a gift that makes you cry,

(01:38:57):
then I'm not doing my job correctly.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
M Yeah, I didn't get any like deviousness with the gift.
I thought it was. I mean, I feel like she
Rachel likes who she likes, and she does it like
what I.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Feel like there was just I feel like there was
just a little twins twinge of manipulation to be like, no,
I need to make these people believe that I am
not the little ship that I really am.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Oh, because of stuff with Thomas recently, kind of thing like,
oh I have some points to score. Maybe is that okay?
I mean not crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
She didn't heart of Marlena.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Look, I thought that, but not in that moment. I
think the moment, the moment that you might like that
your point makes your point more valid is when Marlena
took her over to the Horton house and she was
all sweet with Chad and apologizing. Now, that was manipulative

(01:39:55):
as hell.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
So it stands to reason that this whole I want
you to have a buzz baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Card letter, let her, let her love her grandpa.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Oh my gosh, the chat is with me, by the way,
the chat unanimously, well not unanimously agrees with me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Yeah anyway, Yeah, and then what do they do? What
do they do?

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
They take her and get her all sugared up at
the pub.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
I'm so tired of these scenes where she comes into
the pub. Okay, Roman is like, get this little witch
away from me. Every time she comes into the pub,
they're pawning off on Roman. Roman. Roman is making you something.
Roman is working. Leave Roman. This little girl ice cream
every time she shows up to something.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
I'm like, are some complex milkshakes?

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Yeah, We've got to like change the pattern how they
deal with children whenever. It's always like go go eat
ice cream, Go get a cookie from the kitchen. It's
like just go tell to sit down somewhere, like go,
I'm rare this walked into the pub and she's like
handed a milkshake, a Sunday cookies, like go by the Roman.

(01:41:12):
Why talk. It's like it's like, give your fucking kids
out of the Brady pub your center. Wow conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
It's like, b see Roman, Wow, who peeding your cheerios.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
I'm like romans back, they're flipping burgers at eighty years old,
Like you doesn't want fucking Rachel in his face, you know,
making him a Sunday Like, I have a question.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
I have a question. This is now genuinely puzzling for
me between you two, this this uh, this fine day,
your lack of love for children.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
And my child talking about one specific people child.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
And the pair of drama queens I had to deal
with last night. My genuine question is how I the
rational one right now?

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
I I like Rachel. I just don't know why they're
always hyping her up on sugar all the time. Every
time she goes somewhere. It's like their way of shutting
her up or something exactly. Yeah, yeah, give her some
ice cream so she won't.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
She won't shoot anybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
I love that. That's Marlene's tree badge. Keep her done
on sugar and endorphins, he says, keep her happy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Sometimes a milkshake is just a milkshake.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
Oh god, how funny. I didn't notice that this weekend,
Like she came it literally came in and it was like,
oh god, another yeah, Tait in his Yeah, we got
a new milkshake for you to test out or something,
and then later they were like, oh yeah, I get some,
go get some ex.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
I would like it stated for the record that Annette
is right that if we are not finished by five today,
justin it is not on me. It is all on you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
I just said, I'm not saying the five thirty or
that's whatever we finished.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
When we finished.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Yeah, it's all good. Yeah, yeah we got. We got
Rachel having a little bidding a flashback kind of or
flashback to the paper weight, to flashback to having a
almost flashback to shooting someone. So so she's two degrees
away from remembering that she shot someone, so.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
Yeah, and it's this we are, well, I think we
had a debate about this before. Do we think that
it is in her best Rachel's best interest for them?

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Not? But we all agreed that this was all that's
interest right to just.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Keep this terrible ideamber on her own.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
Like and it was pretty pretty evident this week when
she was having it. Marlena's like, uh uh, let's go outside, girls,
Like she's rushing her out to like what like, the
replies her for a few minutes before she brings her
second and Brady's sitting there in Belle like, what the
hell does happened with? Neither of them know? Like, wait,
does Belle know?

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
No, nobody, Brady doesn't know. Kristin knows, but she's in
jail and we're not seeing her.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
So Kristin, e J, and Marlena know are the only three?

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Right? Right? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Yeah, for a hot second, I thought that this week
that e J was gonna start coming to the conclusion
that he that people need to start stop cutting Rachel's slack,
because when he heard that Rachel got involved in Chad's
business and traumatized Thomas, he looked pissed. Yeah, yeah, I

(01:44:58):
mean I think in the back of his mind he
was going, why the hell am I protecting this kid?

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Yeah? Or maybe this isn't the best course of action
for Yeah, for I still wanted to take the blame
into us to keep this a secret and not really
get this girl, and he helps.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Wouldn't it be interesting if he did? Is the one
that comes to that rational conclusion?

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
I mean, well, he's he is the victim that Yeah,
it's sort of got completely swept under the rug because
he's an asshole. But you know, he did get shot
by a nine year old, which not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
I mean, not much better than getting shot by a
fourteen year old.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
So yeah, and we got Brady. So again, do we
all see where this is going with Brady? That is
going to be Black Patch Part two?

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
I mean suddenly he's very he's very of Salem now
just solving all the all the mysteries.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Yeah, himself. So yeah, this has been a little here.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
Yeah, it was a nice moment between him and him
and Marlena about how I just don't know what I'm
doing with my life, and I don't want to give
up black Patch or not black Patch, basic Black, because
and I don't want to betray him, and just the
reassurance that you know, John would John would have supported
him no matter what he decided to do.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
So yeah, I'm wondering if Basic Black that'll be a
plot point for something in the field, because he keeps
saying it over and over, like I don't want to
give it up. I want to keep it in the family.
I want to do this, I want to do that,
And I'm like, okay, well, there isn't is this, There
isn't anyone in the family who would take it over.

(01:46:41):
No one, there is no family, you know, And I'm like,
this is this an entrant for Teresa to come back?
Is this a Honestly, what would be would would be
poetic would be for Kate to run it because she
was the originally. Yeah, when John first brought or came
up with it, it was Kate who who launched it. Ironically,

(01:47:02):
it was Kay who mentored Brady. I know they don't
get a lot of scenes together, but when he was younger,
he was very much attached to Kate. She was his
mentor during that whole period. Yeah. Yeah, I like to
see and it's owned by Titan. I like to see,
like a little poetic Kate sort of going into that lane.
I know she's I know she's doing the publishing thing,
but it'd be nice if if that was revisited, like

(01:47:24):
her going back to running it, that would be nice.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
I mean, he could. I mean there's I mean, he's
attached to it because it bears his dad's name. I mean,
there's nothing saying that it still has to be into
the Titan umbrella. Gabby did make him an offer for it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Mm hmm, yeah, oh that's true. Yeah, Well it's also
well well, we'll tighten let it go with it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Yeah, probably, I mean probably not that's more of a fight.
Yeah yeah, I mean the idea that that you can
you can be, you can have had have like a
full career, well multiple careers, and still be kind of
at a loss, still feel like it's not the path
that you want to take. I think that's a good
storyline to go for. I'm not necessarily sure he needs

(01:48:13):
to jump from one of his dad's companies to another
one of his dad's companies. I'm not sure that that's
necessarily the right move, but I guess we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
I'm actually kind of excited about it. Usually I'm like,
you know, the Brady stuff, it's usually it's all about
who he's with and who he's dating, and I feel
like they've hid an impasse here with him when in
regards to women and like trying to really make something work.
So it's like, I'm all in favor of a work
storyline that you know, is it tight and related or

(01:48:46):
basic black Like, I'd be interested to see him and
Steve as the new Black Patch and see Brady as
a PI moving forward. I think this past it's been
what maybe two three months they've slowly moved into the
Let's let's show Brady being a little bit more intelligent.
Let's show Brady being a little bit more astute. Let's
show him be you know, a little bit more of

(01:49:07):
a detective here. So I think it's worked so far,
and yeah, I'm kind of interested in it. It's something.
I think it'd be something new, something maybe fun for
Eric to kind of delve into that he's never really
got to do before. Yeah, using his brain, not his Yeah, yeah,

(01:49:28):
we don't need another Brady falls in love with rand
you know X person.

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
Like and completely fucks it up. Yeah, don't been there,
done that. No, many a time.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
We got a little bit of a revisit of Marlena
in these whatever, these spells whatever, which I mean, it's
how long until we we need answers for this? Like
this is a very very s please.

Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
So we I don't want her almost passing out through
twenty twenty six, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
The best example that I can give how this needs
to be wrapped up is like that episode of The
Golden Girls that they did when Dorothy had fatigue syndrome
that and they couldn't diagnose it now, In that timeline
and that in that episode, they they they they indicated

(01:50:19):
that it had that months had gone by because it
was a two episode it was it was two episodes.
It was covered in two episodes half an hour each,
but it was indicated that months had gone by. So
the best way to do it would be like that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
I think we're already there, are we.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
It's it's been long enough. She's been in, she's talked
to Sarah, she's been in for tests. It is following,
it is following that Dorothy storyline from from the Golden Girls.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
But we need, yeah, we need some some resolution for
it before it just before it gets stale.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Its getting on that, it's getting on the cusp of stale.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
Yeah, no, I'm with you. I'm at least I'm glad
we're not getting these flashbacks that are sort of maybe
don't lead anywhere. It's like unless unless we're gonna get answers,
don't bring them back up again, or yeah, if they're
not related to the plot, which we're assuming they are,
but yeah, let's get some movement on that storyline.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
Yeah, Well that concludes this week Days. That was a lot.
I feel like we you know, that was a lot
what we always go into it and then you know,
sometimes even the most mundane plot still there's a lot
to talk about and get into. Yeah, that was your week,
and now we will head into our segments. Of course,
Tony is a here today, so we don't have the

(01:51:38):
three snaps, but we do have a.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
Ten all right, this caption that moment speaking of Rachel
and all of her cherry. This week's caption that photo
comes courtesy of Eric Martzov and uh Alice Hall's Rachel
with her Bitch What Look? And this week's caption za

(01:52:08):
plural first goes to Annette Thompson, one.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Of our favorite members, with her caption ant Belle, are
you still digmatized by Uncle e J.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
I love it. It's like.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
Eric Martzof gave his option of wait, dad buried who
in a sarcophagus? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
I love that one reference seeing when Brady put Vivian
alimeophagus as she did to Carly Manning and even had
a video walkie talkie everything to Yeah, no, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Gonna say, that wasn't the caption I read.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
Yeah, there was another one I thought too, Yeah, I
saw the second one to.

Speaker 4 (01:53:02):
Third caption third caption is from Tony Moore with his caption, Uh,
you know, I make a bitch disappear, right, A lot.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
Of participation this week.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Yeah, there we go, pick your fave, and that was
Let'm just lap it up.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
I didn't see the first one though, Michael, because he
held I want to I want to get his second one,
the second one. He said, hold up, are you telling
me that bartender back there is the only one in town?

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
Dad hasn't uh did that on his story, didn't he?

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
Yeah, that was his second one. So uh, this now,
this is the lesson that Eric Marsoff really does love
our caption.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
That mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
That's why I I tag the actors in case they
want to, you know, Rowe in the fire, not in
the fire, but throwing in the caption hat hat anyway,
Can we move on and.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
All right? Take me back to October twenty first, nineteen
ninety four. This is during her birthday party. This is
when Sammy decided to break up Austin and carry So
this was the genesis of the eventual I will drug Austin,
sleep with him, eventual will pregnancy. That wasn't a will
pregnancy by Austin release. So this is the genesis of that.

(01:54:34):
This sent me on a wild sort of not goose Chase,
but down sort of memory lane. And after the show
you can see those are days extended where I explored
the ninety eighteen scene of teen scene slash young adult
scene of Austin Carrey, Sammy Lucas, and Jamie of course,
and specially shout out to Jamie, which I spent some

(01:54:56):
good time on because she is often the character that
is forgotten from the nineties who was very very We're
in an instrumental and you know the rise of Sammy
back then, so so go check that out after the
show he did it. Those are days extended on the
nineties teen young adult scene and that was this This
week's those the Days was October thirty first, nineteen ninety four,

(01:55:19):
when Sandy decided to break up Austin and carry those well.
And next up we have It's a Game, and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
This week's It's a Gift will be on my on
for myself and I'll behalf of Tony Moore, who I think,
if he were here, would also have picked this moment
because as we know, Tony is a fan of the
single tier and Miss Rachel Boyd delivered m look at

(01:55:57):
that the single tier just once, but twe once twice.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
That's the second time she's done that, she dido.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
I'm just as equally impressed at the not blinking too.

Speaker 4 (01:56:08):
I mean that that of itself is hard, is just
as hard to let the tears without that little you know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
Yeah, yeah, miss Rachel's boy, Sophia Choy, you get this
week's it's a gift and you are killing it and
we love you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Yes, those are our segments. And next up, before we
say goodbye, we have Oh no, sorry, I'm just gonna
go break completely skipping news and gossip. But now we
have news and gossip, and we have some casting news

(01:56:47):
to start off. We unfortunately, but not a huge surprise,
we are going to be saying goodbye to Carrie. Christopher
played Thomas Demurr for the last several years. The actor
has announced that he is leaving days or has actually
days that theysues so far in advance. He filmed his
last scene several months ago. We're little unsure on his
last air day. I did know he mentioned he is

(01:57:08):
on this coming Friday, but I don't know if that's
his actual last air day. But we'll soon find that out.
But again Big Wall wishes to carry Christopher. He's just
such an incredibly given actor and if we the last
few months, he has been loooking like crazy, So this
again is not a huge shock that he is leaving days.
In addition to that, you can find him this coming

(01:57:31):
week Wednesday, October twenty ninth on Chicago med Here. He
also has Weapons That's Hits streaming this coming week. He
of course has the series Regular on It's not like that.
This is the Amazon show where he plays Scott speed
vin Son. I'm excusing Scott foley Son that is coming
early next year. He has Spider Noir with Nicholas Cage

(01:57:54):
coming out next year. He also has Lanterns coming out
next year. So he has three different television shows all
coming out next year that he is starting in. So yes,
that is that is why we are sort of saying
goodbye to Yeah, so good luck to him. We will
see him, I mean on the screen, on the big screen,

(01:58:15):
on the small screen in the future. So yeah, I
mean it was Yeah, he was Emmy nominated last year
as well. Just yeah, I think I'm pretty sure we
have a new Thomas. I might be might be able
to announce that maybe next week or the next couple
of weeks. But yeah, we know of course that the

(01:58:35):
character is probably not going anywhere. But yeah, we are
saying goodbye to Characterristophers, so best of luck to him
in all of his future projects. Kid is so talented.
Next up, we have some casting news. Tim Or Braun
has been cast as Floor in the new short from Floor.
It's a short film about art, life and mortality. Also

(01:58:55):
check out her interview with Us and Lucas Adams and
specifically silly that we did at the Embys last week
that we will get into a little bit in a
few minutes. But yeah, big congrats to Tamra. She of
course now is on Young and the Restless where you
can catch her of that, so yeah, go support that's
the luck to her. And then of course Al Carl Derone.

(01:59:17):
He premiered actually last week on Brilliant Minds, but please
be sure to catch him every Monday. Next show is tomorrow,
the twentieth of the course Brilliant Mindes made his debut
last week as Nurse Nico Silva. You catch him as
a series regular on the show this season, So yeah, again,
big congrats to Al. We know he left days and

(01:59:38):
why he left Days for Brilliant Mind. So yeah, go
support him there if you're a fan of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
Yes, it was a great opportunity for him. But we
miss you terribly. Yeah, we will miss you terribly when
you leave her. Yeah right, yeah, Next up, Ari Zucker
has finally settled her lawsuit with both Core Day Productions
and a former executive producer, Albert al. In February twenty
twenty four, Ari filed a discrimination and sexual harassment suit

(02:00:07):
against Ailar and Corde Productions. No details have been disclosed
on what a settlement they reached, but all parties seem
to have come to an agreement. We wish everyone the
best of luck moving forward.

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
Yeah, mixed up, some days A long long we have
some birthday wishes. Have big, big happy birthdays to both
Christopher Sean and Connor Floyd, who both celebrated birthdays this
past week. I think the Christophers was yesterday Saturday, But
please after go check out our interview with Connor Floyd
that he did with Aricelli from the Emmys, giving us

(02:00:43):
a little little preview into his time as Chad coming up.
So yeah, big, big happy birthday to both Connor and Christopher.
Then of course, Stephen Nichols and Mary Beth Evans took
his down memory Lane to discuss days in the nineties
and early two thousands. This is the series that they've
been doing in the social media space where having an
actor come in and talk about just their time during

(02:01:05):
that decade and what the show was like. They talk
about how different it was than taping back then. Of course,
back then soaps wire taped very much differently. They talked
about all the rehearsal time they would have and then
sort of the shoot days they would have to sort
of shoot. That was of course back when you know,
the show was a little bit closer to air date.
Now we are at this point nine to ten months ahead.

(02:01:26):
But yeah, they talked about that. They talked about their
favorite storyline and of course the epic Bubble Bass you
will find out when you tune in, and that little
sit down they did you can find it at on
social media at Dace Peacock. So it's nice when those
two sit down. There's so much history with them in
the show going back almost forty years.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
And yeah, yes, next up, Starstark Faniments has added a
Misery Loves Company after party event in connection with the
play that Julie Dove will be performing with Sean Ferris, who,
as you know, is the husband of our very own
cherry Y Menace. The show is going to be Sunday,

(02:02:09):
February fifteenth, directly after the closing Mattine show, So this
will be a special event that's taking place after the
final show. Take us in. Information for that particular event
are currently on sale at Starstruckfanevents dot com. And if
you want to see the play any other time, please
go to the Please go to their socials to go

(02:02:32):
and pick that. You can go open to night, you
can go any time between. I forget how many weeks
it runs.

Speaker 3 (02:02:37):
It's like three, maybe three consecutive weekends. I think, yes, three.

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
Please go if you're in the area. Also, Kevin Spiratus
will be having an Evening of Hope and Elegance charity gala.
So this is going to be taking place November sixth
here in Studio City. This is supporting the mission to
rebuild the ADC Grammar School in Nigeria, so Kevin will

(02:03:06):
be performing there. For tickets and information go to his
social at Kevin Spiratus and Libra Prostatistickets available can be
found at thetra Hamilton Foundation dot org.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
Yeah, let's be not at least we want to take
just a little few minutes and kind of all all
of us here just kind of go over sort of
NB day with us last week and our experiences first
probably start off with Michael Mattison's epic NB photo he
got here that has been shared by almost everyone. And

(02:03:43):
you want to tell us how you were able to
get this particular shot.

Speaker 4 (02:03:46):
They all lined up, they all were standing there. It
got quiet for one moment and I said, hey, look
over here, and it was very herpeful, But it was
one of the few times you don't understand how, for
whatever reason, difficult it is when you have even two
people you're trying to get a shot of, when you
have like a line of photographers, to get the even

(02:04:09):
two people to be looking at your at your camera
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (02:04:14):
Without blinking, without making a weird face.

Speaker 4 (02:04:17):
And when I went to my computer later and saw
this shot and I looked, I was like one, two, three,
four or five. So I was like, they're all looking
at me, none of them were making any weird faces.
I was like, I told Andrea the PR, the head
of PR for days, I was like, you've trained them
very well, because that's literally the only time I have
taken a group shot where every single person eyes to

(02:04:40):
me not making a weird face. So yeah, it was
really fun and I had a good spot on the
carpet and got to be in the you know, the
winner's room.

Speaker 1 (02:04:49):
Afterwards, which was really fun because we got.

Speaker 4 (02:04:51):
To be there when Paul won his Emmy, Like, oh
the night he was genuinely like he came into the
press room, got his Emmy, did an interview, then came
over to take pictures and like we made eye contact
and he just looks at me.

Speaker 1 (02:05:06):
And was like.

Speaker 3 (02:05:08):
Yeah, we know, yeah, you're you're big shit. You know,
we we knew this.

Speaker 4 (02:05:14):
So so yeah, it was just a long day, but
a fun day and it was nice to see you
know some some days some days love from from the Emmys.

Speaker 1 (02:05:25):
Yeah, just a fun day.

Speaker 3 (02:05:26):
Good.

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
I want to say big congrats again to Paul for
winning Best Actor, but also to Marnie and Marni Sayda
and Bob Lambert for yeah, big, big congrats to them,
And of course shout out to James Reynovals, who was
inducted as a silver inductee into the Academy sort of
kind of like Hall of Fame, their version of Hall

(02:05:48):
of Fame. Yeah, some big congrats to them or so.
How was your experience on the red carpet. You were
doing a lot of kind of double duty since you
watched some of the other soaps and being able to
get those actors as well.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
Yeah, you know what I mean there, I mean there
there were a lot of hiccups throughout the day and
I heard some complaining, but I thought inters just in
terms of the content we got and the behind the
scenes getting to interact with a lot of our fellow
hosts that cover other soaps, you know, from other you know,
whether it be from like Daytime Confidential, from Jail j Media,

(02:06:25):
you know, we it's the one time that we're all
in a room together that we get to connect. And
then what was great was that there were so many
of us that were approved this year that you feel
the love, you really feel the love from the soap people,
from the from the producers, from you know, like Marnie
and and all the actors like they know us and

(02:06:48):
so when they see us, that was that was a
thrilling moment for me that they get they get excited
to see us because they know that like we're there
for them, We're there to really we really like we're
cheering them on so hard from the beginning of the
carpet to the very end of the night. So that
was so that I hope that that reflected in the

(02:07:10):
interviews that we took, and I hope that our audience
sees that, like there was a lot of genuine excitement
from you know, that we that we all had together
like they would they would all they would clock Michael
behind the camera, they would clock us when we were
in the in the in the in the middle of
all of those other cameras on the other side. It
was a lot of genuine love in the room. And

(02:07:31):
I will say one of my favorite moments was, uh
was not just when Paul won, but when Paul came
behind the scenes and and uh, they got a really
great shot of the days Peacock, got a really great
shot of him like getting his like actually like engraved,
like it's always has his name on and everything. And
in that same video you saw the entire press room

(02:07:54):
lit up for Nancy ln Graham winning lead actress. That
was the moment that she won. When he was getting
his engraved. So it was kind of like a double
joy moment for me of just like I'm so glad
that that moment was captured because it was like, oh my,
all the people that I love getting their flowers.

Speaker 3 (02:08:14):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (02:08:15):
He was like, He's like, it's got my name on it.
It's like, yeah, he's got your name on it. Genuinely overjoyed,
you know. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:08:24):
I think for me that was one of the highlights
was being there and seeing Paul. We're all such good
fans of his and a friend to us and to
the show, and so being being able to be there
as he was a wader, which was really great, as
well as Marnie and Bob, who we talk about endlessly
and they're hosting.

Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
And being recognized for that deserved.

Speaker 3 (02:08:44):
Yeah, And of course James, who is a legend, and
to see him be honored on stage, and I think
that for me is the highlight. We got some really
great interviews or so, I got some great interviews. I
got like I talked to James and Northrope, who you
will see I think this coming week, some interviews there. Again,

(02:09:05):
like we said, it is a lot, and also being
able to see everyone people from Jail Jay media and
other people we know, Melody and Errol and friends that
we've made over the years. Is really great. It is
a trek for you guys to be one hundred real.
The other stuff that I just named is what makes
it worth it and to be there. But it is

(02:09:26):
a lot, there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff.
There's a lot of craziness that goes on. Nobody to
get caught up in the machine of the MBS and
being in sort of for us quote unquote working the MBS.
So we're just hopefully I hope that people tune into
the interviews and like the photos and all that kind
of stuff, just because it's it's always not so easy

(02:09:47):
to always do every single year, but but it's worth
it to be in in the space when stuff like
that happens with days and we get to celebrate with them.
And we also got a little quote how can I
say this, We got word that it was it's always
appreciated that we're there and that we the Day's people

(02:10:08):
are always interested in speaking with us. I'll put it
that way.

Speaker 2 (02:10:13):
Yeah, and even when they jump to other soaps, like
they recognize us and they always come over first like
oh my, like the first time I saw Lucas Adams,
I'm like I made on contact with him. I'm like, yeah,
come come this way, come this.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
Way, and it's good to have that relationship where some
behind disease stuff. He came over, we were trying to
get him and Tamra tamber wasn't ready. He very much
was like cool, I'm away for Tambra to get this
moment because I know this moment means something today's fans,
and it means something to do it at addition days,
So it's things like and again it's that wouldn't have happened.

(02:10:48):
And trust me, there are there are some people who
either don't know us or don't care about our outlet
and they will very easily breathe their actor by us.
And sometimes it's a fight to get the interviews. So
it's nice when we recognize our day's family and they
recognize us and we're able to do stuff like that,
because it's it's not always guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (02:11:11):
Yeah no, in terms of like that, like everybody that
we got this year was just so appreciative of us,
and the ones that we didn't get it was, I
promise you it was just because there was not enough time.
Tim Yeah, but like if anybody says like, well, why
didn't you get this person, why don't you get that person? Guys,
we just didn't have enough time. It was once we were.

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
Going, it was hard.

Speaker 4 (02:11:32):
That carpet there was a hard stop, like all of
a sudden it was full, and literally three minutes later
that room was empty.

Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
I was like, I looked at oh everyone.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
We tried, we tried to give you.

Speaker 3 (02:11:45):
I can't remember what is one of the last interviews,
but if you watch closely, you will see your lights
being turned off.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
It was.

Speaker 3 (02:11:55):
Yep, you can see the lights being turned off on us.
That is them trying to rush all the actors in there.
So if you see people there that you didn't see,
it's because they were probably right after Craig and they
were being literally rushed in and they were shutting the
lights off on us.

Speaker 2 (02:12:12):
Again, only because he knew us. He gave me two
minutes and everyone's like something like did They were telling
me like go go go. I'm like I'm trying to drag.

Speaker 3 (02:12:20):
Yeah. So yeah, it's it can be hectic and crazy,
but it's worth it when we when we have days
like that where people from our day's family get to
get to win and be celebrated, so it's nice I did.

Speaker 4 (02:12:33):
I did get a few messages speaking going back to
my photo because I posted it on I posted on
Instagram and I was like the rock stars of days Peacock.

Speaker 3 (02:12:42):
Then I went back.

Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
I was like, I got to revisit this photo.

Speaker 4 (02:12:44):
Again because my feel about even when I get two people,
like the other night I shot a carpet and it's
like two people, ones looking this way, ones looking that way.
I got but and I was like, oh, that's just
how professional the day's cast is. Abigail Climb and Martha
send both messages being they're like, oh, you're.

Speaker 1 (02:13:01):
Just our favorite, and I was like, yeah, but I
did a lot of them. You know, the recognition factor
when they see one of us or you know, they're
oh yeah, and you know they'll make.

Speaker 4 (02:13:15):
Sure to give us, give us love, give us time.
So it always it's appreciated. The mutual appreciation is yes,
always made a parent in those moments.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
Yes, And it's also a testament to you guys, to
the to the fans, like they like they appreciate your
support so so much, especially at the Emmys, that that's
like when they see us, and they know we're going
to ask fun questions, We're going to ask stuff that
makes them makes the audience want to tune in. It's
because they appreciate you guys too.

Speaker 3 (02:13:49):
Yeah, and this, I'll say this lost. There's something about
also knowing where the content is going. And I think
when they know they come to us, they know that
the whole entirety of the interview was going to be shown.
They know that it's going to be shown Today's fans
who love and appreciate them. Sometimes you know, the people

(02:14:09):
go to different outlets because they may or may not
be bigger than us, and then you don't even see
the interview. You don't even or you see a two
second clip that you can.

Speaker 1 (02:14:21):
As Days of Our Lives people about something that happened
to General Hospital.

Speaker 3 (02:14:24):
Yes, exactly, So talking to us who someone people that
they trust, which is nice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
Yeah, I got a lot of people from other soaps
as well, So go check that out. Please support, please
support everybody, Tony. Tony got people from Beyond the Gates,
I got people from General Hospital and why are a
lot of love in the room.

Speaker 3 (02:14:46):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, be sure check out those videos
are all on our YouTube page, So go check them out. Yeah,
before we close out, we have a preview of next week.

Speaker 1 (02:14:58):
This is a rage room where you all your anger
and frustrations. Can you just start smashing everything. I will
do everything in my power to send you to person.

Speaker 3 (02:15:08):
Philip will go right alongside me. Why didn't you tell
me about this before? You have not been easy to
talk to my foster son's biological father, mister Silenko.

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
Did you just call me Leo?

Speaker 3 (02:15:19):
Oh, slow down, I can't understand what you're saying. My
brother Tony, he's passive.

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
Well, we got an answer about how Meg's going to
react on the Titan front.

Speaker 2 (02:15:34):
The Pourtants are not on my Christmas card list this year,
I leave.

Speaker 3 (02:15:40):
Okay, So yeah, more stuff, more more intrigue and yeah
stuff next week to get into.

Speaker 1 (02:15:47):
Get Hank Northrop.

Speaker 3 (02:15:48):
Yeah, oh yeah, go check out the interview we did
with them. He yeah, really really charming, really talked about
a funny story. He talked about James working with him
and you know him, James and his dad, late father Wayne,
were very close and work together side by side for years.
And there was a little bit of a surprise with

(02:16:10):
bringing Hank into the show. So go check out that
interview to hear what he had to say. It was
really really sweet. Yeah, before we head out, Where can
we find you? Michael?

Speaker 4 (02:16:22):
You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at mL
Mattison excuse me, at mL Mattis and at mL images.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
M l M images LA.

Speaker 3 (02:16:38):
This is your page, right, You did come up with
the name.

Speaker 1 (02:16:42):
Where can they find?

Speaker 2 (02:16:43):
You?

Speaker 3 (02:16:44):
Find me on Instagram at Justin Lee, Harold.

Speaker 2 (02:16:47):
R. Sally you can find me on Instagram and Twitter
at TA three two three are Sally.

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
You can find Tony everywhere at Lanju and Tony And
you can find all of us social media at Edition
Day Show on Facebook, at Edition DA on Instagram, Edition
Days on X and threads. And that concludes our show.
We will see you guys next week. We'll give you
another recap of Peacock's Number one Award winning so proper
Days of our Lives and see you next week. Thanks everyone,

(02:17:13):
Bye bye, m

Speaker 1 (02:17:21):
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