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July 13, 2025 136 mins
July 13, 2025
Join hosts Tony Moore, Michael Mattes, Justin Hareld, and Araceli Aviles, as they recap episodes of Days of Our Lives from the week of July 7-11, 2025.

This week on Dishin’ Days, Leo and Javi care for Sophia’s baby, Gwen makes a splashy return to Salem, and Xander and Sarah tie with EJ for bad choices upon bad choices. In relationship news, Felicity continues to play matchmaker, Roman tries to block Ari’s access to Doug, but Stephanie and Alex affirm their love.

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all the older soap operas, including Young and the Restless
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James Lott Junior. Because James Lott Junior is my oldest
oldest oldest, oldest oldest friend that I know who took

(03:31):
a walk with Jesus while calling him on the mainline.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah he gets new material.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh also, this is and there she is. There she is,
Miss r Sally Abless.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I'm just saying, like you at this point, you could
look up a list of what's old.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Let's try this one, my dearest oldest oldest friend James
Lott Junior. No that doesn't work either, Well rcellly will
say the next one next week. Since she got your
degree and you know it.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I could do it right now. Oh okay, right now,
I can do it right now. Go ahead, go check
out James Lott Junior at j OLJ Media, where you'll
find content from Tony's oldest oldest, oldest friend who remembers
what is like when you could swim in the Rio

(04:42):
Grande without barbed wire.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
But I'm the one that needs new material.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm just saying it's the truth.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
How harved wire?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
You know? You know?

Speaker 3 (05:04):
And I don't. I don't. The Rio Grands in Texas?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh yeah, the real oh yeah is just in Texas.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Why do you need marred wire to swim in it?
At least Tony's reference, I.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Know.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I'm mes send Debbie Bright to educate you.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That has to be the funniest. Oh goodness, oh what
are we doing? Let's talk about Dave shall.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
We don't know?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yes, Yes, that's yes, Jack, that's what it was. Yes,
it's an immigration issue. That's why they had bob wire
in the Rio brand mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Ow that sucks.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's also like a three four year old like issue.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well for three or four years.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
That's why I've forgotten it. You can't trust what I
remember now.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I remember because this is something my grandfather actually did.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh, James Louduna is so old that he swaming with
your grandfather in the Rio Grande.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, there we go, there we go. That's a nice
little bit.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
All right, So let's let's talk about Davey, shall we?
What do we think of this week's episode?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
It was okay, there was some stuff that was interesting, Like,
it was okay, I'll say, yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I'll give it an okay, I'll give it a check,
not a check plus, not a check minus, but a
check or an S for satisfactory Sally.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I like did a lot. I liked it a lot.
I liked I liked a lot. I liked a lot
about this week. I didn't get quite as like animated,
so like I'm kind of similar with Michael, like a
check not necessarily a check plus. It didn't make me
like overly animated as it did my cousin and my

(07:22):
aunt who literally almost attacked me with questions.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I mean, this week was okay. It's one of those
moments where you're like, should we have taken last week
off or this week off?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I mean, I think yeah, but I think some stuff
from last week will spill over into this week because
it continued.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
So yeah, all right, well let's talk about it, shall we,
because I'm very interested in hearing well Rseli has to
say about this week because she loved it. So everyone,
ladies and jets, it is now time to start. Yeah,

(08:13):
we got it.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I always think we do.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, I mean it was closer than it has been
in the past. Uh So let's talk about our first storyline.
That's head is that how you pronounce.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
It, yeah, means treasure.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Treasure, that is what you does. That mean that song
will go to that soul.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
That.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
That is what you are.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Pretty much.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
That Okay, okay, let's let's let's touch on a little
bit of last week, because someone actually commented that they
wanted to hear our thoughts about Sophia and what she
did and not to make a joke out of everything.
But Sophia had that baby and said, listen, baby, I

(09:18):
got a future, Okay, I got a life. Okay, I'm
trying to do things. Baby, you got to go. Okay,
I love you.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
But I think people's reaction, I think there are a
lot of people had a really visceral reaction because not
that they didn't agree with Sophia given her baby up,
but they disagreed in the way that she did it.
And like she wasn't some homeless teen, she had resources
at her disposal other than that. But I think what

(09:50):
gets lost and that is that she listed out very
clearly her reasons for doing that, which is that she
felt try by other people's expectations and other people's what
other people were going to do, what other people's reactions.

(10:11):
Because I don't I don't disagree with her her thinking.
She's her thinking that there's no way once that baby
was there, that her mother was going to let her
give it up at this point because they still hadn't
they still hadn't found a family for the little boy.
And I actually do tend to agree with her that

(10:34):
Tate would have had trouble letting go, or he might
have insisted on an open adoption or something. And Sophia,
I'll give her credit for every step of the way,
knowing that this is not what she wanted. She does
not want to be a teen mother.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
No, he said it over and over.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
She made her feelings clear over and over again, like
this entire.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Time, shout out to Rachel Boyd, Right, I mean the
journey that she took us on when the baby was
the baby she she it. It takes a certain type

(11:20):
of person to be able to convey the feelings that
she did. And you, as a as a viewer, feel everything.
You felt the like, oh my god, the baby is coming,
and then the decision of like I don't want to
do this, but I have to and just and and

(11:45):
then even that night when she just went back to bed,
you you felt like I just want to like jump
through the TV and just give her a hug because
she's been through so much by herself. And I'm and
I was actually glad that she did reach out to Melinda. Yeah,
and that she has she at least has someone, because
I think to go through this alone would be way

(12:07):
too much. But man, shot out to Rachel Boyd, because
you did that, girl, like please pin that for your
for your emmy reel for for next year. That was
don't forget it.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I felt every emotion it was. It was guilt, it
was grief, it was heartbreak, it was all the things
that you know she needed to convey in those scenes.
It was perfection.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah. Yeah, and so now we you know it was.
It was interesting though, because now we're because normally we
see a fake pregnancy without a baby, now we're seeing
a fake pregnancy with a baby.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
And way to keep getting these fake fake belly butters
like Amazon, can you?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, they're like they're like way for like on practice
or like yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Let me see for practice. They're always I mean they're
always on sets.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
So you know what if I lived in in Salem, hm,
I would open up a store that would have all
this need a fake baby bomp, need a fake test,
need a test to like you know, need a syringe.
Like it just sells it all right there? Oh okay,

(13:32):
they do have fake bellies mm hmmm wow.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Probably not meant to fake a yeah yet but m
to bed miss prime.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Day, I could have bought one.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
So let me ask that. I'm a little confuzzled. Okay,
you went to Melinda for help. M Melinda helped her,
and now she's pretending to be pregnant.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
What's the goal here?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Like we don't know the particulars yet.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Did I miss something?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think she's I think she's Melinda comes in to
fake an adoption. That's what I think Milinda is there
so that the adoption looks good on paper. So it
was sloan basically. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Milinda
is there.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
For, and Melinda will be the one to kind of
maybe behind the scenes, track where the baby goes because
they know they know that the bait where the baby
ended up at this point, or at least Melinda can
find out, so it won't be hard for her to
track the baby and make sure that you know, all
rules are being followed and things like that, and you know,

(14:54):
God forbid, you know, you know, somebody finds out or
if you know, or so Fia changes her mind. I
doubt she will, but if she does, she does still
have that she does still have that two week window
where she can reclaim him.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Oh and she delivered early, she did.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah she delivered early. Yeah yeah, not too early, not
in early enough. But but yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I thought when I was saw the preview for this,
I thought I would be like angrier about this story aliined,
but I feel like not not. I think she's doing
something wrong in terms of the deceiving part, because I
think Tate has a right to know. But I think
the steaks are kind of low here because they were
already giving the baby up for adoption. I it's like,

(15:42):
how like mad can you be at her? I guess,
or like how exactly how you know a crooked or
how deceptive is she really being? I think I think
in her head she thought, if Tacy's the baby, he's
gonna want to keep the baby. That may somehow wrote
me into keeping the baby, or these being in the
baby's life, or if my mom sees me, she's gonna

(16:05):
stop me or convince me. And we saw when she
had the baby. I thought it was going to be
I thought all along, she's going to see the baby
change her mind, and it didn't play out. She very
much stuck to her guns and get you know, placed
the baby. And I thought she did it responsibly, I thought.
I originally myself, I thought it was going to be
like she left the baby in the park somewhere or

(16:25):
something like that. But no, she took it to the
fire station, she dropped it off where it was supposed
to go, and she essentially was responsible in that sense.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
So yeah, I mean, this is why that that program exists.
Those baby boxes exist for exactly that reason. It's for
for for mothers who don't feel that they can be mothers,
but they that doesn't mean that they don't care about
the well being of those children. She did, She did

(16:54):
what she felt at the time was right for her
and for the baby. Doesn't mean she doesn't care, you know,
quite the contrary. I think she cares. She cares so much,
she cares so much about the baby's well being that
she's like, I know in my soul that I cannot
be a good mother to you. I want better for you.

(17:17):
And if if anybody else tries to interfere, it's gonna
it's gonna be a lot of back and forth. Uh,
that is not fair to that little boy.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, question, would would do y'all like the way that
they did this just with her dealing with it, or
would you have rather had Tate involved, not not saying
that he would want to keep it, but have had
him involved in like you know, maybe she called him,

(17:50):
delivered the baby, they both made the dish, drop it
off at the fire station. Maybe he went and did it,
or maybe they went and did it together, and then
they came back and just kind of like Pinky's War,
a secrecy that like this is what they have to
do moving forward? Or is it just better without Okay, well,
judging by Michael's face, is better without Taate.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, I think this was.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I think it was better just seeing her. It made
it a little more I don't want to say traumatic,
but a little more impactful.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I think, yeah, her dealing with it by.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Herself rather than having because Tate is also I'm sorry,
but Tate's kind of who flip flapping.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Flip flopping.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
But also just like I don't think he would be
of any use, Like I feel like her watching I
honestly feel like her watching a YouTube video was better
than having a second at least Tate as a second
person there helping her.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Like, I just don't.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Trust that he would have been of any help. And
I don't trust that he would have. Yeah, Like I
feel like she was justified in her fear that he
would immediately get attached to the baby and not want
to give it up and and it And you know why,
I think because I think that's what Brady would do,
and he's Brady's son, and we've drawn a lot of
parallels between the two and and so no, I think

(19:10):
I think it was from a storyline perspective, it was
it was. It was executed the way it should have been,
like dealing with it by herself seeking out Melinda. Luckily,
Melinda has prior experience herself with you know, having a
baby and giving it up, so you know, she had support.

(19:31):
I think she had the proper support because and obviously
her mom wouldn't have been of any help. She would
have just like gotten a Bible and started praying or
some shit and and then probably forced her to keep
the baby.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I felt it was executed as it should have been.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, I still think on the other hand, though, like
Tate has a right to change his mind if he
wants to be a father and wants to keep it,
and I don't I don't know if like the message
is or should be, or even if Days is doing
this that like her, her perception of parenthood is Trump's

(20:09):
his maybe, do you know what I mean? Because he
can still say I want the baby and you can
sign your rights away. That's her parrogative to do. But
he now she took that chance away from him, or
as far as we know, he doesn't, you know that
chance is going to be taken away from him. So
that part of it I don't like because even if
even if he was on board until the last minute,

(20:31):
he has every right to change his mind. If he
wants to be a father to the baby or take
custody of the baby, he should have every reason to
do that.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh, I agree. But the issue with that is that
she is the one that has firmly known what she
wanted from the beginning, and she has not veered one
and he is the one who has flip flopped a lot.
He's kind of like one foot in, one foot out.
I'll support you, but I really have no say kind

(21:00):
of a thing. And so if he really wanted to say,
if if he wanted to be a single father to
his son, I would have totally respected that, ask Sophia
to sign her rights away, you know, take on the responsibility.
It's totally within his right to do that. But he
hasn't said anything to that effect up until this point.
He's really he's there for Sophia, but he's kind of

(21:23):
not And to that end, that's that's how Sophia ended
up in the position that she's in right now, where
Melinda was the only person that she could turn to
to answer your question, Tony, Like, in an ideal world, yes,
I would have loved for Sophia to be able to
turn to take and be able to count on him
one hundred percent for support in that moment, but she

(21:46):
knew she couldn't, so she had. She had, she'd handled
it on her own, and the first chance she got,
she reached out to the one person who actually listened
to her and took her at her word with what
she wanted.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't think that's her call, Tomate though, like her
total call to Meke, as far as he wants to,
he can flip flop eighty thousand times if he wants to.
What's I don't it's that's still his right to do that.
And also whether or not she wants to be a mother,
that's her right. His right is whether or not he
wants to be a father. The two can coincide, but

(22:21):
they don't have to. It's when you take someone else's
right away. That's that's that's the part, the bad, quote
unquote negative part of this.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I think, well, I think that whatever plan Melinda and
Sophia come up with, if at that point he says
he has a huge change of heart and says no,
I want to be a father, then okay, I would say,
maybe that's his last chance to really say something.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I think also, you know, we saw Sophia fighting the
urge to keep the baby too, because I think once
she saw the baby, once she held the baby and
she knew what she had to do, she I think
there was an internal conflict. It's like she knew she
had to because her future didn't include a baby. But

(23:12):
I think there were moments where she she wanted to
keep the baby. I also, I'm sorry Holly and Tate
back together. I'm like, this is like I'm like, after all,
like y'all have been y'all, y'all have been through just

(23:34):
as much as like some of the legacy couples have
been through, and y'all only been together for a hop
skipping a jump.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I just don't know, especially when you're like what two
high school kids are like, yeah, let's get back together.
We're both on our way to supposedly different places. Like
this is so obviously awkward and weird. It's like, just
let's have fun for the summer and see what happened.
Never mind this, Like I'm not going to go to
school away like this is I don't know. Whenever kids

(24:06):
make those decisions by like older. The older person in
me is like, oh please don't please, well, yes, change
your change, change your trajectory for some boy or some
high school girl, Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, yeah, because we're grown justin we know you're not
supposed to do that.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
No, I think some eighteen There are some eighteen year
olds who are probably like I'm not going to go
I'm going to go to Paris, so I'm going to
go to college and date a round and you know.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
And then there are some that are just as stupid
as you think they are.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, I at least like, hey, we're just going to
hook up all summer and see what happens, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
No, no, no, which.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Is, by the way, exactly where they were this time
last year. They've made it full circle. This is like
literally exact lee where they were.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Oh thanks to a fan. Wow that was three years ago.
Thank you. The second that y'all mentioned Holly going to
Paris and uh, you know, like danging around and stuff,
there's this this is TikTok or Instagram reel of this

(25:24):
girl sitting in her car and there's music playing and
it's like boom boom, boom boom, and she's like I'm
about to be. I feel like that should be. That
should be Holly's anthem. Like she's like bopping through Hortontown
Square and she's like, I'm about to be.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yes, She's like, I got rid of the ex boyfriend
and baby mama, I got Doug's trifling g d not
have it ass away from right like Harris like like.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
But yeah, uh, I don't know, like I think. I
think in the very beginning I rooted for Holly and
Uh and Tate, and then I think because they were
going through so much that I was kind of like,
you know what, I'm good like, I just don't I
don't need them to be in goal.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
M Yeah. No, I think they all spark between them
in the beginning, but a year later that they're Like
I said.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I don't even know if the was there in the beginning,
because it was very much this is when Jamie martin
Mann was playing Tate, but it was very much him
being like I like you and she being like, hmmm,
yeah she.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Was after Johnny at first.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, I think they need These two characters can benefit
from some time, like really apart from each other, even
though they haven't technically been a couple. They still in
each other's orbit.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'm just whatever, I'm whatever about it. I'm like, okay,
you're back together.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
We're all in our lukewarm feels on this.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's very much like if you like it, I love it.
If y'all want to be together because you're happy, Yeah,
I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy. Now what
is that?

Speaker 3 (27:31):
What did they say? What blessed the not? Bless her heart?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Who bless her heart?

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Like when you're like when you're when you're just like
you're you're Yeah, you make it another way of.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Saying if you like it, I love.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
It, or it's uh oh, how do they say it
if it's for you? Huh?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Sometimes they say love that for you.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yes, yes, love that for you. Love that.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Someone said that to me at work once.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
I was telling them about something and they were and
they were just like, love that for you. And I
was like, that was so fucking insincere, and it was like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Bothering you by and she was like, you could also
be a compliment, though I guess it depends on how
they're well in that particular instance.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
But I don't, like, I really don't love that for them.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Or or if someone says couldn't be me, that's how
if Holly came on the delivery.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
If if it's oh, I love that for you, and
it's a you know, you can read a person when
if they know it's yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
My favorite, or you're a better person than me or something.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah better than me? Yeah yeah. All all of
those fall under the umbrella of a bless your heart,
And it's all about how it's said, will depend on
like how it's taken. And I know if Holly ran
up to me talking about I'm so happy I'm back

(29:03):
with Tate, I'd be like, girl, I love that for you,
or couldn't be me? Better you than me? Bless your heart, blessed?
All those fits for for I feel like we should
get them like one of those shirts. You know, those
shirts that usually say someone's name and and they're all

(29:26):
connected somehow, Like uh, like if there was a shirt
that said like Rose Blanche, Sophia, Dorothy, Yeah, well you
should get one for them that says bless your heart,
couldn't be me, I love that for you. If you
like it, I love it, And then put Holly in
Tate back We're so I love that. What days is

(29:54):
trying to do with Hobby finding the baby and then
deciding to foster the baby with Leo. I feel like
it's kind of giving us a glimpse into, oh, what
could it be like for Hobby and Leo and building

(30:14):
their relationship and building a family.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
It's a lot to take on that early in a relationship.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
I appreciate his what do I want to call it,
like the do good or mentality that he has in
the nurturing part of him coming out, Like, I appreciate
that about him, and I don't think we quite know
if there's a back like there's got to be some
sort of backstory with him.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Of why he felt compelled to do this.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Oh yeah, because there was a picture of him and
a baby something.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, there was. There's something, And I don't think we
have full context yet. So I appreciate that part.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
But with the in terms of his relationship with Leo
like it and maybe just a little too early to
bring like, oh, let's raise this baby as are because
you know what I mean, and maybe the direction they're going,
but you know, it may work, you know, if Leo
can you know, stop talking about himself for you know,

(31:16):
a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, I'm with you, it seems way too soon. Also,
I like them as a couple, but I feel like
there's something like missing with them. I don't know what
it is. I feel like they can't put my finger
on it. I feel like they're they're like they move,
They're moving very fast, from like getting together to now
they're living together after X amount of dates, to now
they're considering raising a child together. I don't know if

(31:40):
there's something like missing in this, and I don't know
if that's them, if it's the show like hinting at
Hobby's past, because he's the one who's still a bit
of an open book here. You know, we've seen Leo
on the show X amount of years now, we know
his history, we know his parents background. I feel like
the Hobby stuff needs to be filled in a little

(32:00):
bit more. I think to get them as a couple.
There's just something missing here that it seems all these
like milestones that they're making are just like okay, they're
not like I don't know, they're not resonating for me,
even though I like them as a couple.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I think what it is is, and I think we
saw this this week, is how they don't still know
each other. I think there's still a lot of stuff
that they don't know about each other, which makes it like,
which makes it feel like their relationship is very more surface,
like what they know now is what they're in love with,
but like they haven't reached the part of their relationship

(32:34):
where they really like got to know the nitty gritty
of each other, especially Leo and all the stuff that
he did, Hi, Mom, especially all the stuff that he did.
So even and we'll get to this character return in
a second, even that interaction, yeah, you know, Hobby was
very much like wait what you know? And and it

(32:58):
wasn't even something that that it the way that I
feel like it was painted. It was like Leo was
in the wrong, but it was really Dmitri because he
was the one that like Leo.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
It was it was it was it was like I say,
they share almost equal amounting for that.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And it wasn't. It wasn't it was Dmitri that wanted
him to come to Finland.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeahd Madonna Madonna would never have done that. I need
to let that.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Go, though, you know, you know your girl, I do
appreciate Nikki Finn would never.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Perform Nobody was Nick Finn.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah, I appreciate when let me I'll finish the minute.
I appreciate when my two obsessions collide. But okay, So
in Hobby's Hobby has been a very good boyfriends Leo,
and that whenever he has found out an incident in
the past that Leo has been less than stellar, He's
accepted and whatever has it used it against him or

(34:08):
doesn't make him think twice about the relationship or anything.
There's got to be a limit, though, And I'm trying
to remember. I'm like, does he know everything now or is.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
There still stuff?

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Does he know about Craig and the wedding and the
drag queen?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
And does he know about him and Sonny and Will And.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, yeah, he may even know the Craig stuff. I
feel like this part was the stuff he didn't know
the more you get into it a minute, but I feel, yeah,
I feel like that part Leo obviously kept from him.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Oh yeah, yeah. And Leo has years of shenanigans outside
of Salem, of course that he probably hasn't told Hobby about. Yeah,
they have. In terms of milestones that they're hitting, they
have to hit bumps in the road, and that's the
thing they have to. They have to get to know
more about their pasts with each other on both sides,

(35:03):
and they have to start hitting bumps in the road
because getting over those bumps are in our milestones in
a relationship as well. Not just the good stuff, but
those are like the stuff that you get over and
you keep going good.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
And take the bad.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yes, take them both. There you have the facts of life.
When you take the good, you take it bag. You
take them both, and then you have the facts alive,
the facts alive. Oh Meanworld just said, uh, there's no
link in the description using my phone, there should be

(35:41):
an option for phone users. No, when you're using your phone,
the option is not there, But when you click using
your laptop, it's right there. So do that rules because
the four nine you spent to say this, you could

(36:02):
have joined for a month.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
But me, World's back. But she also owes me for
the uber trip to Julie's house. Oh and Julie owes
me a tip to a thank you tip for the necklace.
Thank you, thank you. But but yeah, it's uh, it's
cute to see like how they're dealing with a little,
uhs a lot.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
That is what you.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
I did have the reaction in the scene with with
Gabby and Ari and the kids screaming. Ari is me
whenever there's a screaming child or what is that noise?
And how do we stop it?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I feel like Gabby was just in there, like with
her wife.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I did love the Stephen Kayla call back to both
Benji and Tyler with them wanting to be foster parents.
I thought that was cute to like bring that back
up again.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah all right, well we have talked about that is
what you now Let's move on to our next stop storyline,
which is She's back, and he said, than ever, Brian

(37:38):
returns as Gwynn Risshak, which okay, So I thought about this,
you know, because I just can't get over it. It
was announced at Day of Days that she was coming back,
and I was like, girls July we talked about that

(37:59):
in no vent. We did that whole thing with like
Emi O'Brien came out because she was Teresa, but then
she took the wig off and then it was like
Gwen's coming back, and I feel like I like, like
I knew, but then I kind of forgot and then
I was, you know, then she came back as Teresa,
and I'm like, well, girl, when is Wynn coming? This
is July and Gwynn finally showed up. But when I

(38:21):
tell you, Gwen, this is.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
A blaze of it. She came back. She didn't go
out in a blaze of glory. She came back.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Back like she let me tell you something. She might
have went to the right as Gwen, but when she
exited back in, she is she is no longer Gwen.
Rest check, honey, she is Gwen. What Gwen val von Leuschner.

(38:54):
That's what I said, and she there's something now and
that I love. I love this because it's the sense
of like I was just beaching in the yeah, someplace

(39:19):
fancy and now hanging back with my jewels. It's just
very bouge like uppity, like Gwen is a little uppity now.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
And I love it.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, Like I felt like she wanted to look at
everybody and be like.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I want to like this. This was the week of Gwen.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Basically everything else for me just kind of took a
back seat. Once she came into the Horton house and
was like, bitch, I got your necklace. I'm not giving
it back a little confusing to me, and I don't
want to get stuck on It was the whole Bowen
Hope interaction and how they fe found her and thought
she was going to bring the necklace back, and why

(40:04):
they trusted her to bring the necklace back.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
That was all a bit confusing to me.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Well more so, why why it sounded kept it a secret?

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Well, why she kept the secret? And it sounded at
least one story was that they sought her out.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
They did what you guys got.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, No, they sought out the neck Oh, she bought
the necklace.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
They traced the purse of the necklace to her. Yeah,
they told They were like, oh, well can you take
it back to Salem?

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, and she she trusted her to do That led
them to believe she was going to return it, not
that she wouldn't be Okay, all right, Well good for them,
bless their hearts. But yeah, I love how like she
came in.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Totally antagonistic towards Chad and Julie, then went and had
a drink and became vulnerable with Xander, then became horny
with Xander, and then had that scene with JJ too
where I was like, this week alone is like they
really gave Emily a lot of good stuff to return

(41:15):
this character, oh everything, and I'm back to like, Okay,
I'm rooting for this character again.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
It went up and down for me last time.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Because just when she and it was during like the
whole Sarah when Sarah thought she was what's her face?
And she was supposed to she was supposed to give
Sarah the antidope, but then she didn't or something, and
I was like, Okay, I can't root for you anymore.
You had, you know, a chance to chance to do
the right thing, you didn't do it. But now that

(41:44):
she's back, I'm hoping like I can keep rooting for it.
I'm rooting for her and I want to root for
her and her taking.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
She took responsibility for that moment with Xander, basically said,
I let I led with my insecurities the last time,
and now I know better. Let's see if she does
know better. But yeah, I wish for all the petty.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Question, I know the answer. But this sparked huh because
I was trying to remember the time that Xander and
Gwyn were together and how I felt about it. Yeah,
and then you know, now seeing Xander and Sarah and

(42:27):
we'll get to that, but then seeing Gwen and Xander again,
I started to wonder, do we prefer Gwen and Xander
or Sarah and Xander.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
At this moment with everything going on, I am and
after their scenes together this week, I'm Gwen and Xander,
I'm like, let's explore that because I'm sorry, Sarah and
Xander have proven that this relationship is it can't work.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, time is gonna Time is going to be a
teller on this one.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Time will be absolutely But I do believe that a
lot of damage has been done between Sarah and Xander.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
They basically she said she hates him now.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
And Gwen and Xander I think, will accept each other
more as long as they don't as long as they
just keep as long as they were together, not against
each other, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, I'm open.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
To seeing where they go with Xander and and and Gwen.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, and I think I think because Gwen has that
different air about her, it just made you go sorry,
justin what were you gonna say?

Speaker 3 (43:46):
No, I've actually always preferred Gwen and Xander together, but
I do love Sarah and Xander together. I always give
the edge to Xander. It's Xander in and Gwen. Yeah,
I just I like the idea of them sort of.
Usually I don't like it if two people are exactly

(44:07):
almost exactly alike. I kind of think, like, Okay, it's
too much, But I like them being alike together, Yeah,
I think. But for the fact the last time that
Xander still had feelings for Sarah, I think that's that's
what got in the way of their relationship. Like if

(44:28):
she if you know what I mean, if if Gwen
did to someone else that Xander didn't care about like
he did to Sarah, I don't think that would have
stopped him from marrying her.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
And Gwen is going to have to prove this time
around that she is capable of being one hundred percent
honest and not. I mean, she can be petty as
hell and she can be hoty and hoity toity and
do all her shenanigans as long as she is upfront.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
But interesting they're dynamic now, is too. They bonded over
the fact that they were too sort of outcasts with
horrible childhoods, and now they're on the other side of it.
It's probably two of them people in Salem now and
they have money at their disposal can do whatever they want,
and so it's like, why why should I be good
at this point? Look what it got me. It got

(45:24):
me screwed over and I lost this and it wasn't
so great for my marriage, So.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Why I mean? And the thing is, unfortunately, like they both,
they both have points. It's like, you know, it's like
to Gwen's point, it's like, you know, you know that
conversation that she had with JJ, and it's like, you're one,
You're dismissing her childhood trauma. So that I didn't like.

(45:49):
But yes I do. I though I understand that there
is a certain point that you have to You can't
start blaming other people you're for for you mistakes. You
do have to take responsibility. So she has to take
responsibility for her actions, she has to take responsibility for
who she is. But by the same token, I do

(46:10):
understand her point of view, which is also Xander's point
of view right now, which is that I was trying.
I was trying to be good this whole time. I
make one mistake and you guys not only cut me off,
you try to grind me into the ground, say that
I'm a terrible person, say that nothing I've done up
to this point. Matters.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Yeah, sorry, And also their mistakes are due to at
least on Xander, his mistake was due to him finding
out that everyone around him was being dishonest and lying
to him and trying to cheat him out of stuff.
I just I you know, And again, you can only

(46:54):
excuse your like those kind of types of actions. You
can only use pasts like that to a certain extent,
but you can't completely dismiss it either. But it's you know,
if in Gwen's case, in Xander's case, he was making
an effort too, before everything came out, he was making
an effort to be a better person and work on himself.

(47:15):
Mostly a few times he wasn't. I don't see that
on Gwen, like like she just keeps blaze, you know,
excusing her actions rather than like working on herself.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
But to her point, I think she's like when she
was talking to you, JJ, I think she was like, well,
why why should I care at this point? You know,
you say, you know, you look at me and say
think that you know the balls all in my court
that I should approach Jack. Let's say I do that.
You know, do you really think that you know He's

(47:49):
not going to drop me the second I make a mistake.
I think for fear, I.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Think some people in Salem hold others to a completely
different standard because I think there were people that can
get away with things and things are forgiven. But then
there are other people who you just hold on to
that that thing, and so it becomes like, okay, fine,
Like if you you clearly don't like me or want
me to be a part of, so I'm just gonna

(48:16):
be whatever it is that you think I am. Because
I think that no one, under no one took the
time to understand Gwen, like the fact that the fact
that she went through what she went through, and you
have to you have to put her yourself in her shoes,
of like of a situation where I was abandoned, I

(48:39):
was done away with. You had parents who loved you
and cared for you. You had a mom and dad
that were there for you. Why couldn't like what was
so wrong with me that I couldn't get that? I
didn't know. I didn't do anything wrong. I was a kid,
that was y'all, So why why wasn't I deserving of that?

(49:01):
And then you know, of course you know her SCHEMEI
and everything you know didn't help the situation, but they
kept wanting to paint this this picture of her rather
than sometimes understanding why she's doing what she's doing. And
it's it's it's also just like the I mean, I
feel like, let me just always scroll through that. I mean,
we'll we'll talk about him, but it's this is a

(49:24):
great example of I will never understand why Julie just
can't get over Doug still in the damn necklace, like
he like he's been doing everything he can to get
it back and to make amends. It was a dumb mistake, yes,
but to completely throw someone out in that way, but

(49:46):
then say how important family is.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
This week, unfortunately, was really the week of the Horton hypocrisy.
The thing in multiple characters was the Horton hypocrisy was
just all out there on display. And it's not that
we excuse the behavior of all of these other characters
when they do something bad. It's that you want to

(50:11):
hold them to a different standard than you hold your
family members.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
And most of the Hortons have fucked up along the
way hugely.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
And it's the classic case of like Julie in particular,
it's like, go all the way back to the Nick
and Gabby stuff. She'll never ever ever forgive Gabby, but
she conveniently loves to forget that Nick was a bigot.
Nick was try to rape Gabby. Nick was violent, he

(50:44):
was blackmailing, and this isn't was just too Gabby. These
were two members of his own family. He was off
the rails. But Saint Nick will be forgiven for anything
because he was a horton.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Yeah, I'm particularly interested in this relationship with JJ because
I think with Abigail there also her being another girl.
There's that to sort of deal with. But I think
I find that Gwen and JJ are far more alike,
I think than she was to Abigail. So I'm interested
in to see them too interact because we never really

(51:21):
got to see them too before. I also thinks it's
as much as I feel for Gwen, she also is ignorantly.
I don't know if this is intentional or not, but
she has this idea of who Jack is as a
father and who he was to his children, and she's
completely wrong. We know the history of Jack. He was

(51:44):
not a loving great father. I think JJ probably got
the most of Jack as a dad. But like the
Abigail stuff, she's completely wrong. He was not there for Abigail.
He walked out on Jennifer many times. They've been divorced
many times, you know what I mean. Like she, I
think she has this idea of you know, Abigail and
JJ grew up with Jack in a white picket fence,

(52:06):
and their their history was great. It was slightly better
than her history, that's it. But she has this idea
in her head. And also JJ doesn't know where she's
coming from and all that she's dealt with. So I'm
interested to see these two come together, even if they
you know, they're not like, you know, hugging each other
in best friends in six months, I'm interested to see

(52:26):
that relationship develop.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah, thinks he was. He was a pretty outside of
the last like maybe fifteen years. Jack was not a
good father in any sense of the word.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
But also, Gwyn, just give the necklace back, girl, go
buy something else.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I want her to keep it.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
I appreciate the petty of keeping it, but I think eventually,
like I think eventually she'll, yeah, she'll she'll what's the
word surrender?

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Yeah, I feel like she has to play hardball at first,
and I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, I think when Gwen, Gwen needs to give Julia
a taste of her own.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Petty, did you did you?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Did you? Do you have proof of ownership? Is there
a photo?

Speaker 3 (53:14):
She's right? I mean, I was like, and you may
get it, but you're gonna have to fight me for it,
So go ahead.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I love it. And that's pretty much it with her return, right.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
I think I figured something out during this conversation. Yes,
I think I connected to dot, but I want to
wait and see.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
I don't want to say it.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (53:44):
There's another there?

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Okay, so there's something happening in another storyline that I
think Gwen might be involved in.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Because much money she has.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I think I see where you're where you're going? Yeah, yeah,
and I think we're where. I think you're right. I
think we're getting to that, but not not the same.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
And it would be somewhat of a screw to the
Hortons too, mm hmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, we'll get there.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Well, like you said to the like you brought up
last time, Tony, the Leo hobby part of it, where
she was sort of spilling that information and Hobby was
just dumbfounded, like mouth wide open. That was surprising to
me because they've established so far that Leo has been
honest with Hovey about a lot of what he's done.
Before we saw about the Will stuff, I feel like

(54:34):
they sort of addressed that Will in hobbybat. We probably
know he talked about the Craig stuff because that was
kind of you know, far enough in between that. But
it seems like this latest batch he's probably kept his
mouth shut surprisingly about which is interesting.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
And what you can do.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
What did you tell that was the last big sort
of relationship you had.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
But there's a lot to leave out of there.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
M But at some point you you have a conversation
about last relationships, and all of that should have came
up over a glass of wine or you know something.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
The fact that it's connected to your best your female
best friend, like, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Who you haven't talked to? Who also was I mean
the way she looked at him in total disgust, in
the most upiteouest discussed, well, if he.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Does have a heart, it's no bigger than the size
of a cockroach.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Or I gagged when she you know, she calls Hi
Maddie of course, and then Leo and peoples like who
and I was like, oh God, like yeah, that's that
part was like okay, like this is what's missing from
this relationship. I like you two together, but that should
have been a surprise to you. You should know his
actual name. I get it. He goes by Leo. We

(56:04):
all know hims Leo that he prefers to be, but
you should know his real name. That's that was a
big red flag.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, uh yeah, I mean so again, it's it's it's
it seems like a very like this is the honeymoon phase.
So this is like all the surface level stuff that
you know. What I like about you is what I
just know. But there's there's still a lot more to know.
So all right, well we learned enough about when's return.

(56:38):
Let's move on to our last top storyline. Did I
say stop or top top top storyline? Which is one, two,
three four, I declare war.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I can't remember the last time I saw you grown
ass adults make the wrong decision at every turn.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Of Like, I'm which adults are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Sarah and Dander?

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Yeah, I was like, well, same, Well it's particular Sarah
and Xander if Sarah wants okay, Sarah went.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
About that whole taking what's her face to Bermuda with Maggie.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
She should have had Maggie.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Go and asked Xander yeah, and the way she walked
walked into his office and was like, well, hopefully we'll
be on the beach with Victoria when we go to Bermuda.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
I'm like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (57:38):
And then when he says no, and and then has
his badness the overreaction of like, oh, you're trying to
steal my kid.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
You're trying to make.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Her disappear, like shit, okay, strike okay, Strike one for Zarah,
Strike one for Xander. Then she goes to Philip and
try says she can convince Alex and stephany.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I wanted to. I was like, girl, what is wrong
with you? And even the look on Philip's face was
like that, you're kidding, right? Did this just blow up
in your face?

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Exactly, blew up in your face and you want to
do round two and then say okay, so strike two
for Sarah.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Then what does Xander do?

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Goes and basically steals, not steals the kid, but demands
and takes the kid, strike two for Xander. I'm like,
y'all are dumb. Maybe Maggie should be raising this kid.
Take you two out of the equation.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Here's the thing that's very frustrating is that, first of all,
kudos to Paul and lindsay yeah, or their talent in
making us believe this storyline. Hm, you know, we absolutely

(59:02):
love the show. You know that there are times where
we're like, I don't understand, but we go through it
and we try to make sense of things and things
like that. In this moment, I do not understand why
they are going this far on the spectrum with Sarah

(59:24):
and Xander. Again, I will keep saying, it's like they
woke up that morning super in love with each other,
and then that night they absolutely hated each other, and
it just keeps going and it's to a point where

(59:45):
it's like no one is making sense over anything. And again,
I feel like I feel like the person who who
had every right to be upset and to be the
victim in this storyline was Xander, because he was betrayed

(01:00:07):
by Sarah, by Alex, by Stephanie, by Philip, by Vivian,
and it all came crashing down because everybody kept that
away from him. But I feel like he could have
got upset, he could have raised his voice, he could
have yelled, he could have had all of those feelings.

(01:00:30):
But it's something to recover back from. But for whatever reason,
they flipped the script to make it like, oh, poor Sarah,
and it's like, no, wait, it's not like we get
why she did it, and we can have a little

(01:00:51):
bit of empathy for her, But y'all did a one eighty.
And then on top of that, you go, I have
an idea to make everyone truly hate Xander. Let's have
them beat Philip to the brink of death. So then
now you have that, and it's like, are you serious?

(01:01:13):
Like what?

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Why? None of this makes sense now. Of course, y'all know.
I have all the faith that at some point the
dots will connect. But what I'm worried about is how
can this couple that we love so much recover and
we go, oh, We're so glad we're they're back together.

(01:01:43):
That's my biggest concern is that how do we then
look because just like Michael, I'm looking at Xander and
when like, I'll take that because I don't This is
so much of a mess that I don't know how
it can recover from that. And I also feel like
the growth of the character of Xander and everything that

(01:02:05):
he's been through when it caught up to this point,
I feel like he shouldn't have been meant to react
the way that he did, because even when he dressed
up in the blue suit as the clown, he did
it because he wanted to take care of Sarah and
he did not want to do any harm to Bonnie

(01:02:27):
or Susan. But he was just merely following orders. It
wasn't even in the Xander Matteo way, because that was
way back in the day. That was Xander at his worse.
It wasn't even that. It was like, I'm sorry, guys,
I got to kidnap you. Sorry, but I need money
for Sarah. But then you have him go to this extreme.

(01:02:50):
It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
My cousin, who is a licensed social worker and mental
health therapist, explained it to me this way, and let
me see if I let me see if I can
reenact how she bombarded me with this yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Not the bombard mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Oh yes, oh yes. I walk my little self outside,
I say hello, hello, Do I get a hello back, No,
I get a why Sarah and Xander doing this? Tell
me this is gonna end, Like I have this kind
of knowledge pre hand that I'm gonna like, this is
going to end sometime eminently. I have no idea, that's

(01:03:33):
my act. My cousin says, well, she know what, she
forgets that he has childhood drama and his mother lied
to him his whole life, and Victor abandoned him, and
so he has abandonment issues and they would conveniently like
to forget that and she should know better because she's
a doctor and it would. Yeah. So that's how that

(01:03:53):
was explained to me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Like, I, yeah, I think we're all confused because this
is because this is like, this is just such an
extreme it's it's it's we're we're It's not lost on
us that every time, like every now and then a
couple gets you know, we'll little shape little you know,

(01:04:19):
because you know, you can't have couples so happy, but this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Yeah, I think the the thing to worry about is
if they take them too far, because I do they
are one of unfortunately the only viable couples who can
who we can pencil in or even write in with
the pen now as a super couple, or the show
have to have a super couple, So I don't I

(01:04:45):
hope they don't go far, and I hope again we'll
talk about this in Part B. I also hope they
don't go too far with breaking up these couples and
giving them too much strife, because these are couples that
people are actually rooting for and you have to have
that on the show, So don't go so far to
the other end. I think for me, I agree with you,
Tony in the sense that it's for me this is
more rushed. Yeah, I don't know if it's out of nowhere.

(01:05:09):
I think they've slowly been hinting at trouble in this
marriage for a while now, and they've been showing us
their issues have been unresolved, but they've just been going
along with it to kind of get along. So I say,
my issue is that it's rushed. But yeah, my my
concern is that don't take them so far they can't
come back. Yeah, and they're almost there, They're almost there.

(01:05:31):
You have something great with this couple that even if
even if you know, do you put Xander with Gwen
for a couple of years or whatever, Like, I don't
know if the idea is to bring them back together
at some point you can't. You can only go so
far with them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
But I feel like at this point we are we
we've reached the moment of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Well, I say, last week though, when they were sitting
at the table and speaking reasonable to each other, it
was like, like, you can you can get along and
the anger can subside, and you know what, maybe they
can forgive each other. So I don't I don't know
if they've hit the breaking point yet. I honestly, I
think Xander taking the kid.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Xander taking the kid is going to be another setback,
a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I think that's like, that's a big one. Don't have
a problem with the hit. I know, everyone I know
the ideas that the mother has the right to the kids.
Don't necessarily have a problem with it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
It's that it's gonna just fuel Sarah's ship. It's just it's,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
But there was I think it's not as much as
her going and trying to put.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
No no, it's but it's the overarching problem that they
have right now, which is which that has I believe
all of us, if we were to pick a side
right now on if it wasn't Team Victoria, it would
be if we had to pick between Sarah and would
be Team Xander because the overarch and one of the biggest,

(01:07:04):
the big overarching theme that at least Sarah is not
willing to acknowledge, is that she's giving ultimatums. They sat
down at that table last week on the fourth, and
they were able to sit down Amiclee butt until the
moment that Sarah said, I will compromise if you do this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Yeah, and then she has the inner back pocket to
use his confession. It was like, Oh, this is so good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
She's she's speaking in ultimatums and that's the thing, and
that's the problem. And the conversation, I'm sorry, the conversation
with Bonnie didn't help. Bonnie. You need to butt out
that your situation, while tragic, is miles away from what
Xander and Sarah are doing. That it is one hundred

(01:07:55):
percent different. Now. Granted, and if Sarah, if Sarah's main
issue was that she thought that Xander could be violent
towards Victoria, that's a completely different thing. But she has
one underbents and animately said that that's not her issue

(01:08:15):
with the situation, but she likes to bring it up
as blackmail.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
I'll say this, I agree with you about the Bonnie
so which actually I love the Bonnie conversation. I thought
it was a great way to weave in Bonnie's history
and kind of not make it like exactly, but make
it give her a perspective on this which I and
I was also shocked that she told Sarah all that,
because up until this point only Justin and me me
know whatever, you know everything that happened with the husband.

(01:08:43):
But I will say this one point Bonnie did make
that I did resonate with. And I've never I've always
been on the side of Xander, would never lay a
finger on Victoria. I still believe that. But when Bonnie
said the idea of being raised by someone who may
not be violent to them but is vile themselves and
has violent tendencies, that actually resonated with me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
For once.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
I was like, Oh, okay, that I kind of see
if that was Sarah's point. I don't know if she's
been as successful at making that point, but I was like,
that that makes sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I agree with you, it makes sense if that if
that were the point that Sarah is resonating with. And
that's the problem is that that itself is not Sarah's
main issue, because if it were, she wouldn't be using
it as blackmail over Xander. She wouldn't be using that
sticking point as a strategy. She would absolutely just say

(01:09:40):
put nip it in the butt and say for that reason,
I will not compromise. But that's not what she's saying.
She's saying, admit it and then we can talk. So
that tells me that's not she's not fearful of that.
That's not her greatest fear. Her greatest fear is she

(01:10:01):
can't control what Xander does and she can't change him.
And that was I don't think she did it this week.
I think she said it last week. She says, uh,
the that was the big alarm bells that start going
off in my head when she said the magic words.
I thought I could change him enough. But oh, that's

(01:10:24):
kiss of death.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
But also I feel like Xander has changed but for
the better.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yes, But she said that. But what she said, and
you can go back and look at it, she said,
I thought my love could change him enough. I thought
it changed him more than it did. And it's like well,
what is enough for you? Like, are we is there
a certain scale that we're talking about, like when you
miss someone, yeah, you marry someone for the better or

(01:10:54):
for the worse, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Not yeah, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Oh, up to a certain point and then I'm out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Now that's up to her to decide, which is why
I would Yeah, that's now, that's what her limit is.
She has to decide. But the problem is is that
she wants to change course halfway down the line, yeah,
and keep and keep saying this is the limit. No,
this is the limit. No, this is the limit. You
don't get to do that, at least not separate from

(01:11:26):
your partner. If you want to keep having discussions with
your partner on like how we continue to communicate what
you know, what, what makes me uncomfortable? Things like that. Great,
but she's not having those conversations. She's actively having. They
are both now at the point where they're talking over
each other.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
They're both trying to win. That's that's what one's trying
to have power over the other instead of being like,
I know how much you love Victoria, so yes we
can have joint custody. Yes you can. No, It's it's
like She's like, well, you beat up, fill up to
a bloody polk. Just admit it. It's like, did you

(01:12:04):
admit that you kept the secret? From here now? And
it would't have got to that point had y'all just
said it in the beginning, had you instead of you,
instead of you, you should have went from the hospital
to the house. Didn't nobody tell you to stop buying?
And see, Philip, granted we were all with you, like, okay, girl,

(01:12:27):
keep the secret, but now look what the secret has done. Yes,
but it also didn't have to be written like that.
It don't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Well, here's the thing about it. I actually disagree with it,
and I'll tell you why, because that that it didn't
have to be written like that. I think. I think
for those of us who love Sandra and Sarah, we
we feel strongly that it came out of nowhere. But
to Justin's point, it if you, if you were watching
them closely the last few years, this was inevitable because

(01:13:03):
they they sweep. They have this history of sweeping their
problems under the rug of not of not a dressing
head on that thing, and while unraveled very quickly, they
got they getting through it means talking about it and
coming to terms with it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Not now watch episodes upon episodes of them talking about
him dressing up as.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
The clan no no but no.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
But per and and what all? He didn't know At
some point we just felt like they had an off
camera moment and things are better.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
But that was our assumption.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Well, we couldn't assuming that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
I'm even talking about the recent stuff, the killing Brady
stuff that was that was just fun. Oh you know
what I mean. I'm saying even that was something that
like they sort of swept under the rug because of
the idea of he hurt you Sarah, so I was
going to kill him but I wasn't sure and she
was lying about it, and then you know, like damn

(01:14:03):
issues that they under the rug.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Yeah, yeah, watch watch what's that movie called with the
Adam Driver and Scarlet Johanson marriage story. I think it's
called Yeah that those scenes really like it brings home
like just how quickly something like this can happen. It's

(01:14:26):
still as it's a hot mess.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Yeah, it didn't have to be this way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
They could have They could have they could have had
a little rumble. Great because we we you know, as
Justin said, there was some there were some things, but y'all,
this is this is extreme. This is extreme, yes, and
and I don't know. Again, kudos to Paul and Lindsay
for justifying everything and doing what they need to do

(01:14:54):
to to But it's it's a lot, Okay, it's a lot.
Like we were fine with where they were. Can we
go back to that morning where they woke up and
probably had a little nookie the night before or the
day in the morning of, and they were so in
love with each other and they had a baby and
everything was fine and dandy like HoTT and Candy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Yes, But in the meantime, I am fine with Philip
keeping his trap shut and not helping Sarah out because
Sarah doesn't need that kind of a win, you know,
Philip Felp. Don't get in the middle of it. You
aren't gotten in the middle of enough. Don't get in
the middle of it. Just go on, go on about
your business doing you know, your yoga in the office.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
That was a yoga that was like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
He had a yoga mat.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
He's a yoga mat to stretch, Yeah, stretching you whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I I love it, I love it all. Just do that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Can we move on to this next ridiculousness. Hi, I'm
e J Damia, who previously had issues with my son
to that made him so mad that I thought he
shot me. But then I realized he didn't shoot me,
which I'm very thankful for. But in order to save

(01:16:17):
my son, I'm now gonna pin it on his wife.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
I'll do you, Yes, I'll do you one better, Tony
and I will this will be I don't think it's
a first, but what a rarer occasion audition days, I
I say, I would less admit that I was wrong
about I previously said that I a few weeks back

(01:16:45):
that I thought that e J respected Chanel for standing
up to him.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Yeah, I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I was wrong use that right on against her.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
You know, he gave that there was a there was
a look. He gave some shit ass look this week,
and it was like, okay, it's obviously what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
They doctored the footage.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
They used some probably artificial intelli rita excuse me, probably
used some like artificial intelligence to doctor the footage like
there was probably so I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Because there was the confrontation.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
She Janelle did have a conversation, a confrontation with EJ
that night, but I know she didn't say some of
the stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
So this is what I was confused about, And it
looks like someone in the chat is answering it. I
wasn't sure if he we know that he altered it
by cutting out the Johnny stuff, so that's what I
thought it was. And then I was like, oh, is
this how the I couldn't remember the exact words of
the conversation, but I remembered it enough I was like, oh,
you know, he's just showing the conversation. He actually altered it,

(01:17:55):
So I'm curious to see what he altered because it
I thought she did say that when she was saying
I don't remember it, I thought she was just saying it, like,
you know, I didn't mean it, remember, But I didn't
actually think that he doctored it to make it look
like she said that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
So let me tell you where I think that that happened,
because I because it didn't make sense to me at first,
and then I remembered that not too long ago, Chanel
was on a soap opera, and because I was like, well,

(01:18:31):
how could he used AI to make it leak that good?
That I'm like? And then it popped into my head
he could have found some body and soul footage where
she said something like that, spliced it in and because yeah,
and that could have made it look like they had
that face to face conversation when it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Wasn't see I remembered it as I thought she did
threaten it, but not in a serious way. I thought
she was saying, you know, don't heard any one I
love or else kind of you know, like people say.
But I guess he could have was.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
I actually contemplated trying to go back and find the
episode where that happened and watch like but I was like,
that's too much effort.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Then well, one of the chats said they did, and
it's different dialogue. So that's why I'm thinking, Okay, he
actually did change the dialogue.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
But because when they showed, they showed the video and
I was like, I don't remember her saying about like
I won't let you live long enough to blah blah blah.
I was like, I don't remember her saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
But that seems very But then in the scenes she
was like.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
I don't remember saying that. I'm like, oh, that's why
I don't remember her saying that, because she didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Say that, and this is what Rita did.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Rita altered the footage by taking out Johnny's stuff and doctoring.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
She could have done Yeah, she could have done that
with Johnny's dialogue or I think Jendy could have found
something with because that's that's pretty elevated language. That could
have been on body and soul as well. So I
think either or a mixture of both would have done
the trick.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
I't when you hear the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Hm red A sure can't do a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Apparently Rita does the most. According to Tony, Rita does
the most that she's you know, she serves all, betrays none.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Lord Mercy. Oh yeah, I'm just I'm like I when
they played the video, I was like, oh man, they
don't see Johnny and did it. And then when they
showed the video, I was like, what is this?

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
That was his reaction. I was like, there has to
be some trick because if we know he sent the video,
but I was like, why would he send it with
Johnny's on it? That doesn't exonerate and like but then
when the Chadelle stuff, I was like, oh, it didn't
even pop into my mind he would do that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
But again it's like it's like, why would you like
you don't you dumb diddlely d like why would you do? Like?
Why would you do that? It's a good song.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Why it's really disappointing because he very one thing I
liked about EJ in terms of the Johnny Chanelle stuff,
outside of originally maybe thinking she was after his money,
like that small little plot point. Outside of that, he's
been very respectful of her, and like Arisela said, I
do believe he likes her being a sort of take

(01:21:31):
charge person. I mean, he was with Sammy for how
many years, Like I think he appreciated that about her.
So to see him sort of actively mess with his
son's marriage is a little I don't know. I'm like,
uh I kind of felt like above that, So now
I'm like, uh no, he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
And I think we hoped EJ would be above that,
but no, now he's just proven that he's not. He's
doing this a to give to give them another suspect,
to take the suspicion off Johnny and also be as
a personal thing for her.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
Coming at him saying it's personal. Now, I think I
think if he and Chanel weren't at odds he would
have never done this. I think part of it to that. Yeah, no,
he wouldn't have. No, this is EJ. BEINGJ. Is not changed.
He hasn't changed the definitely no. Mm hm. He's still
an asshole.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Yeah, yeah, he respected. I believe he respected Chanel's take
charge attitude until it was turned on him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
So rude, just so nasty, so rude.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Yeah, but Bell Bell, Bell still do know that once
she finds out that, once it comes once it comes
out that EJ had the footage doctored and that he
had a hand framing Chanel, let's see if she's still
taking him upstairs for afternoon delight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Bet So.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
I'm like, now she's not recused from the I'm like, what,
like to attempt to make it make sense, Yeah, I'm like,
you could also just say no, you're not. You can
refuse yourself. It's not like you the judge doesn't have
the power to make you be in a turny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
That's what I don't know enough. I don't know enough
about those things like the lot. I'm like, oh, I
guess it, judge.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
If a judge unrecuses you, then you you don't have
a choice.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Like what you're talking about. I mean, listen, everyone's related
to everyone, so I guess there's no.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
No, yeah, but I feel it's hard to avoid.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
The conflicts of interest.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
But I feel for Jada at this point because she's like,
there's no way that this isn't doesn't get messy, and
it's like it's it's really like Jada is like the
most innocent person in all of this, because it's like
she's doing she's not related to anybody, she's just doing
her job, and she's completely right that it's bonkers that,

(01:23:55):
you know, the the U, that the father and the
and the the victim should represent the accused, and that
the accused should be the prosecutor. Yeah, it's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Yeah, Iracuse.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
I decline. Iracuse I did kind of like that Paulina
sort of on her own, came to the realization that
Johnny was innocent and that she was still it was
kind of like, oh god, you still think he's guilty.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
But you know, there's a part of me that was, like,
you know, even though like, yes, it sucked that it
sucks that she had to take him in, but I
feel like you kind of had to do that to
like take him off the list of the suspect, like
you can't like, so there's no there's no reason to

(01:24:50):
be mad. It's like, make you do, do what you
need to do so you can and then leave him
alone because now it's you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Yeah, what is this? I like Jada?

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
But does she own any tops that have sleeves?

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
I don't know because I feel like she always has
own sleeves.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
Also, what why because she can't A woman can't show
off her arms.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Come on, if you've got them.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
I was gonna say, and she's she's got them, so
we should not have a problem with her wearing sleeveless.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
That's bizarre. I did want to make a comment.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
I'm glad we're seeing Jada like in work mode and
not like they didn't immediately throw her Like they're taking
a break from the Sean and Jada stuff and we're
just seeing her inside. She's commissioner, right, I'm keeping jack,
She's commissioner. We're just seeing her in commissioner mode and
they didn't throw her immediately back into a relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Yeah mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
All right, Well, now that we've declared war, I think
we have covered all bases on that and we are
still okay. Oh really quickly, I felt I felt a
little sad about this for two seconds, the Marlena of
it all when she was waiting up for bell mm hmm,

(01:26:26):
I was like, Marlena gotten.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
In to du Yeah, she just can't sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Yeah, she's not sleeping, she's grieving.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Her defenses are down.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Yeah, it's hard for her.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
It's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
The only thing that we missed last week that I
did want to touch upon with Marlena is her, which
if we had been if we had been here last week,
it would have been my gift of the week with
when Kristen was there in the apartment and Marlena walked
off the door and said, let me know when she leaves.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Shoot. So I felt like Marlena was like, Whitney Houston,
We're not doing this today. Nobody got time for that.
All right, y'all? Those are your top storylines for Days
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our tidbits and talk about Felicity the Matchmaker. Felicity is
a smart cookie hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
I love her, I love her, I love her.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Well, let me tell you who ain't smart cookies?

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
Chat and Kat No, No, I can't, I just can't
you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
I just it's white noise to me.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
The Felicity moment that I remember was Xander and the
Stuff dog that interaction I remember anything with Cat and Chad.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
It went in and out.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
I do not care anything about it, and I refuse
to invest any of my mental capacity with them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
You know, I can't, Michael can't, or Selly can't. Justin can't.
We can't, so we won't moving on to uh just
it's just more of like this is the second time
Felicity doesn't like put y'all together, and y'all still are.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
And look, let's be honest, Felicity's got better things to
do with her time.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Felicity trying to watch the fireworks and eat some food
like y'all are do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Look, Felicity has a job, Felicity has school, Felicity has gymnastics.
Felicity has a boyfriend. You know this girl, This girl
has a life.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
She's gottlike.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
God, there are things to do with her time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Mmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
It's like, you know what, none of us have time
for this. None of us have time. Anybody got time
for this, Because there are people who have been in
a relationship, not in a relationship, and back in a
relationship in the same amount of time that Chad and
Kat are still No. Maybe next time we'll actually eat

(01:30:42):
the food. Sorry, about the mustard. Let's go skydiving. M
moving on to Roman the cock blocker. Uh, Roman, sit down?

(01:31:03):
But also is that the okay? So I have a question.
So if I'm living in the Brady Pub and I
want you all to come over in kiki, is the
only way y'all can get in is if the Brady
Pub is open? Like what I have to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
You to be like a back door or something, or.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
You can get through the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Back which is also a back. Yeah, back to the
door they can go through.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
I'm like, I'm like, girl, you gotta walk through the
Brady Pub in order to get upstairs to get you
some coo. And then and then it's it's almost like
it's almost like he was waiting for like she's hey,
then you love to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Chain a command for me. It's the great great grandfather
calling the grandmother to call the ex husband who's the uncle,
to tell the mother who's the sister.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
I was like, what what what is this.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Game of telephone with characters who aren't even on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
And she like the lit her like the yeah, I thought,
I was like, what is I like dove too?

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Oh my god that that was a weird, Like I guess.
I guess it was just established everyone knows and she's
not as sneaky as she thought she was, which is cool.
But it was a weird and it was kind of clunky.
I liked it for the familiar aspect of it, of
like Roman colleagues saying me to be like your granddaughter,
you know, is is a little fast or something or whatever.

(01:32:37):
However exactly like I'm gonna call Reef because Will's out
of town and I don't talk to Gabby like that,
so I'm gonna call Reef to like watch her or something.
That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
But I'm not really into the whole uh Doug and
Ari thing anymore. That was like cute for a minute, but.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
Well that's because she's becoming says.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Well, well, it's not. Actually, it's not on her end
that I disagree with it, because she's just being a
teenager that and I I feel that pain all too Well,
it's the dog part of it, where you know, all
she has to do is climb into his room and
he forgets. He communely forgets that. You know, he has
a threatening picture of her sitting right next to the desk.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Well he didn't. He wasn't expecting the child to climb
up through the window. I mean that's what that's what
being digmatized to do to you and make you do
crazy things. Yes, so he wasn't expecting company. I'm sure
if he was, he would have cleaned up a little bit.

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That's why he flipped it over later because he was like, oh,
I got my stuff out.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
This plot is driving me crazy. I don't it's I
can't believe the new writers have picked this plot up. Well,
you just had him borrow one thousand dollars from what
three weeks ago? Because remember we're making fun of it,
being like, wait, a thousand dollars, that's all you need it.
So he gets a thousand from Leo, he pays it,
and he still owes more. He's owed more now for

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four different cycles.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Like I'm sorry, but let's let's go back. We thought
Holly paid for the dish.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
He did and it was the interest, which I'm like,
okay that I can kind of see that, but like,
now he's paid the thousand dollars interest and they still
and now they're threatening to women for what a few
hundred bucks or something. Maybe I would makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
I would have looked at that man and been like,
what y'all? Wow, what do you want? All right, I'm alright,
I'm paying y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Oh my god. I would just rather be a shakedown,
like just you know, make make say they're going to
blackmail him to steal something or something like this, like
he this never ending like money that he owes after
he's paid it back four times.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Or you know, be be like a way to plan
a seed when he paid them off. Oh wow, you
came up with this kind of money fast. Yeah, well
you know I know people you know, oh, you know
rich people. Yeah, huh okay, thanks, Exit stage left. Then

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we get to ask through the bushes and stuff, and
then they're back to do to threaten him to get
more money because he knows rich people. I would buy
that more than like, yeah, you're still owe some money, bitch,
What what other money do I owe you? I don't
owe you nothing. I paid you. See, I got the screenshot.

(01:35:45):
I paid you, I got my receiption. Moving on, let's
activate type and publishing, shall we.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
What happened with this? This was just Stephanie and Alex,
but it sort of was a continuation of last week
when they were in the park. They did it in
the park, okay, I remember. Yeah, all came back to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Me when I tell you, Stephanie said, I'm not only right,
but honey, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Just preparing for one one stormy night.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Two it's gonna rain it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Hi, Hi, we'll your weather girls. Uh huh. And have
we got news for you? You better listen, get ready,
all you lonely girls and leave those umbrellas out. And
I and not calling Alex out telling me she was like, well,

(01:36:55):
what if we don't go home? I know this hasn't
been your first time because she knows Alex is ah
and it's trying to justify like, oh, like, no one

(01:37:15):
like the second she said, it's just us, Like, no
one's gonna come to, one's gonna run. I just wish
somebody would jog along and be like.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
I was like, are we talking about the same park
where everyone goes to to discuss their crimes. Yeah, when
they get rid of damning evidence, when they like, what
are you talking to?

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
I mean cute. I guess they're honest. I guess they
still do nothing for.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
Me, you know, I like them.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
I just need this story. I need this plot to
like the most interesting thing about this is Kate being back.
Other than that I do and like maybe like seeing
the other women on the show react to the script
that's been that that was joy she was in it too. Yeah,

(01:38:10):
I feel like I need I need something from Stephanie
to make this interesting to me a word.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
I need Stephanie to find out that her mama and
daddy were reading her novel and then taking partners and
they had.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
It in bed with them taking foreigners.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
Were they said? They said? What they said? What does
she do? On on page uh on page page sixty?
What what does she do? She did that? Okay, I
still think Days needs to make this an actual book.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Mhmm mm hmm. I'd buy the book. The book would
be more interesting than this.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
I mean I want to I want to read. You
know what they should do if they do Day of Days.
I want Abigail Client and Stephanie to read excerpts of
One One Stormy Night.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
So instead of the like after the day players play
or before the day players play, there's like a.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Reading yes, yes, yeah, but the day.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
Players the day players can like provide.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
The music, the music behind music.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
While she's reading in the background. Every time explicit it's
like it's like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Like it's like he started to caress my big volumptuous
Oh my god, somebody please, nobody, please like like cut this.
And then.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
See we're already playing Day of Days. We got a
new activation going this.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
One Stormy Night X Day Players, Day Players X one
Stormy Night.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Listen, while people need something to do, you have Stephanie
or even if it's just Stephanie Carson and having their
own activation doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Doing something. All right, Well, y'all, that was your week
of Days of our lives, and now it's time for
our favorite part of our show, which are our segments,
and we're gonna start with mine, which is Tony's official
Three Snaps Awards. All right, listen, My three Snaps Award

(01:40:42):
has to go to the return of Gwynn von Okay,
who came sauntering into Salem with a stolen necklace, a
few billion dollars and a chip on her shoulder. When

(01:41:03):
I tell you, she woke that town up out of
their sleepy coma. So to Emily O'Brien, gwy Von Loshna,
Riz Check Devereaux, you get Tony's official heaps A Ward
and now it's time for it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
Mm hmm, all right. This week's caption. That photo comes
courtesy of e J M.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Bell In.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
This week's caption comes courtesy of friend of the show
and set designer on Days, Tom Early. Uh Tom Early
from Instagram with his caption, look at me, e j,
I had my red coat made into a smart dress.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Shout out to Tom Early Early.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
I thought that it was a cute quest, and then
I saw it was from him. I'm like, oh nice.
So I always love when someone from the show participated.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Yeah, oh wait, that's a callback.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
When she to red Coke killed Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Yes, yes, oh work Tom.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
And isn't the smart dress? Wasn't that a real housewife thing?

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
A reaching Maybe I'm always reaching.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
Around lady. Oh and that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
Was It's been one drought night over over in my area,
not one storm night. Well maybe raining over here.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Well maybe what we need to do is get you
a copy of one stormy night, Make it rain in
your house, flood your basements.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
Flood my basement, rust my bowt flex.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
And that has been, and now it's time.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
For every.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
He just saw it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
I am picturing my Rudolf now in my head.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Why are you picturing Maya Rudolph.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
Because see, oh you don't know, you don't know what
Michael was referencing the boat Lex say you you've seen it.
I'm sure. Why would you flood my basement? Rust my
boat flex to would end?

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
We are ridiculous?

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
Oh god? All right? Taking you back to July ninth,
twenty fifteen, going to Row Ridsome Junior and did a
seven year run as THEO Brandon Carver. Of course, he
later returned the Days at Jerry Prentice in twenty twenty three.
But yeah, I've talked about THEO before, but just wanted
to give a shout out to Durell here who was
such a gifted young actor on the show and finished

(01:44:16):
off his run as THEO and then of course came
back as Jerry, and I do a little bit of
a deep dive on those of the Days extended into
specifically Terrell sort of run a SEO over those seven years,
to see who we interacted with it or who we
interacted with and what sort of it was a theme
sort of behind who he was as a character that
I think was interesting. So if you're remember, go check

(01:44:38):
that out. But yeah, July nine, twenty fifteen went Terrell
Ransom and did his seven year run as Dale Carver.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
And if you're an exclusive member on our exclusive page,
exclusively on our YouTube channel, you can see a deeper
dive into those where the days brought to you by
Justin Lee Harold And now that was yes they were,

(01:45:06):
Yes they were.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
And now it's time for it's a gift, And this
week's it's a gift, like Tony goes to Miss Gwen
wrisk check In who just always knows how to make
an entrance. Surprise, surprise, and we have surprise, dearly girl.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
She came sauntering into the Horton Town, the Horton House.
I was like, you better, saunter. It's almost like she
was looking at everything.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Like commenters now like right, no, I used to sleep
on that couch. Now I can buy this whole town.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
Like like where do we get this furniture from Matthews brothers?

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
No one makes an entrance like family, O'Brien.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Usher, I realized we said that and they probably did.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
Sorry Tom anyway, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
It's a game. Well what was it Michael Maddison's And
now it's time for news and gossip.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
It still can't get over.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
We have a show to do, justin pull it together,
all right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
All right, starting off, gonna go over the Emmy Award nominees.
They were just announced this past week and Days came
out in full swing. I'll rent to the list here
and then I guess we'll have a little chat about
them here. For Lead Actor, we had nominees Paul Telfer,
Eric Mantzov, and Greg Ricard. Supporting Actress, we had Lindsay

(01:47:08):
Godfrey and Emily O'Brien as Teresa here Nominated Supporting Actor,
we had Blake Barris, and then a new category called
Emerging Talent, And I know people were a little bit
confused about this. It kind of replaces the young one,
but not really. It's for a It's for actors who
are essentially new to daytime, so that's why you have
such an age range for those nominees. But in that

(01:47:30):
category nominated for Days, we're in a Limacord and Ashley Puzemis.
They's also got nominated for writing. That's daytime drama, directing
and casting as well. And just want to give a
couple of special shout out before we continue with this
to Eileen Davidson and Kate Mansey former Day Stars who
were also nominated in in lead in supporting categories. And

(01:47:54):
we do know the Emmys are slated for Friday, October seventeenth.
My understanding is that as of right now, they are
going to be solely online at Emmy's dot com, but
will keep you updated if that changes.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
And they're only doing one ceremony, they're not. They're they're
doing the like the arts and then the main they're
doing one one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
Yeah, you guys think, yeah, it is smart.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
I know there are many out there. What no comments
about who didn't get nominated? Who did who?

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
First? I want to I do because sometimes we forget
behind the scenes. And so when Days got their nomination
for casting, we have praised Marnie and Bob for casting, yes,
because they truly do find some incredible talent and and

(01:48:57):
sometimes you know it's like it's like wow, like they
fit this character like to a t. You know, sometimes
they have to replace people and so you know, you
have to find someone that can still understand what the
foundation of this character is and everything like that. Casting
is not easy. So I will always continue to always

(01:49:18):
give a big shout out to to the folks behind
the scenes, Marnie and and Bob for casting also you
know again excuse me, they also Day's also got it
for directing, for writing, for lighting, and of course outstanding drama.
So shout out to all the people who do what

(01:49:42):
they do to make this, you know, to make this happen.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
And my voice is Martha just for a moment. Martha
Madison did a post at when the day that Emmy's
nominations came out, and she put it, like the best way,
like technically speaking from a technical standpoint, nobody is better
than soaps because they shoot the abundance of content they

(01:50:08):
shoot at like rapid fire. A friend of mine who
works in the industry was talking to someone on Beyond
the Gates and was flabbergast when they're like, oh, yeah,
we shoot seventy seventy to one hundred pages a day.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
And my friend was like, what, yes, it's unheard of.

Speaker 4 (01:50:25):
And like these shows like White Lotus it took seven
months to shoot eight one hour episodes. Yeah, on these
shows like It's and it takes you know, not just
the actors, but all of the people behind the scenes,
people running the cameras, the audio guys, editors, like everybody
so just the snowball off of Tony's mention of the

(01:50:46):
behind the scenes people. But Martha did a great post
and it just kind of summed it up really nicely.

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
Yeah, I'm really happy with the nominees this year. Of course,
some people don't get in who we may have thought,
but I really I've actually more than I thought about.
I really like the Emerging Talent category. I think it's
an interesting one because it just does the period of
time and a lot of people are like, oh I
need this person, but it's it's it's anyone who's new
to daytime. I think within maybe two years I think

(01:51:15):
is the cutoff. So yeah, the last new contract role specifically, yeah, yes, yeah,
as opposed to them trying to figure out whose birthday
is when, and it's like too much of it. It's
just whenever they're on screen for a short or a
new period of time on the show. So yeah, yes

(01:51:36):
to that moving forward.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
Yeah, and I have I have, I have my favorites.
I am the only one here that kind of watches
the whole breath of the stuff that the actors submitted
this year on all the shows. And I gotta say,
I mean, not for nothing that we have so many
nominees this year, but I really feel like I've seen

(01:52:01):
I've seen all of the content. I've seen the scenes
that they that they talked about in their reels that
they submitted for their reels. I really feel like a
lot of our our actors, a lot of and a
lot of and a lot of our behind the scenes
people have a really good shot this year. We are
contenders this year.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
They've better win something because I'm tired of them not
not being recognized. I mean, we recognized them during audition
days awards.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
Yes, the last time, the need to.

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
The last time they had a good year at the
Emmys was twenty eighteen. That's when Greg won James Wan. Yeah,
Susan and I think that was the year Susan and
Bill got their Lifetime and Achievement Awards and they won
Best Show that year too. Yes, But I one thing
I appreciate is that the people behind the Emmys are
being uh what's the word disclose, the transparent, being transparent

(01:52:56):
about certain They came out even before the nominations, they
were like, don't you tell at us that beyond the
Gates didn't get any nominating they weren't eligible and then
the day after the nominations, they clearly were responding to
feedback about the emerging talent and how that, how what
some what qualifies someone for that that you just mentioned before,

(01:53:17):
and how how a little bit more about how the
voting works and why, you know, how how the Emmy
voters vote a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:53:29):
They're being a little more transparent this year.

Speaker 4 (01:53:31):
I feel like then they're being but also about like, oh,
why don't you release the reels?

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
What about the reels?

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
And it's like, well, there's licensed content that they can't
release because they don't own it. But if an actor
wants to do it, that's their prerogative. But it's like
they can't release it because they don't own the content that's.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
On the reels. So yeah, basically, like stop yelling at
us to say, we'll be remiss if we don't mention this.
We noted. There was a lot of talk, and we
also shared disappointments about Susan. We all love Susan and
you know she should have been I do want to

(01:54:06):
shout out her response. A lot of people have have
spoken about this and given their opinion, but I think
she sort of released a really sort of classy interesting
response to it. So go check out her her Instagram,
Bill and Susan Hayes to see kind of what she
said about it. And she's just incredibly classy and a
pro of this business. And and again there's there's always

(01:54:26):
next year. There's a lot of Dug stuff that carried
over into this year that she can hopefully be nominated
for next year as well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
So yes, I still say, how dare you? How dare you?

Speaker 4 (01:54:44):
Apparently it's I would just assume that all Emmy voters
vote for every category, but I guess that's not the
case certain people. It's it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
They're assigned certain certain categories.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
How dare you?

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
I just I mean, it's it's you just have to
acknowledge the strength of Susan C. Fourth Hayes, because to
mourn the loss of the love of your life twice
is has got to be the most heart breaking thing ever.

(01:55:23):
And so we, I think we as viewers just we
were so with her on that journey because we knew
it was hard, but we also knew that you had
to celebrate this character, this man in such a way

(01:55:44):
that would honor his legacy as Bill and as Doug.
So you know what, we saw is real, just raw
emotions from someone who who's love was not only loved

(01:56:08):
on a show but also in life. So I think
it's I think sometimes it's a it's a rarity to
to see that. I feel like, one one other time
that this is gonna happen. I don't watch this show specifically,
but Christoph Saint John on Young and The Restless.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
Yeah that was that was rough. Yeah, that was that
was a really really really really really rough period because
it was it happened so unexpectedly and it was just
it was so so painful.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
So well, she's a nominee and a winner to us,
So shout out Susan c Fourth Hayes, and shout out
to the to the nominees uh as well. Some great choices,
some great work, even from those who are alumni of Days.

(01:57:03):
So congratulations everybody, very well deserved, very well deserved. I was,
I will say I was. I was extremely happy to
see Paul on there because I I feel like he
doesn't get recognized enough for the work that he does,
and so I was very very happy to see that

(01:57:24):
he was nominated. So, but shout out to everybody because
everyone has done great work. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
So excited to see Emily out there because it's not
for this is not the character that she came in playing.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
Pole, that she got in the beginning for Teresa. To
have it come full circle and Beverly.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
I mean, I think we said that we were just
those scenes that she was playing Teresa last year were
just so good. We believed it, we loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
Yeah, and so people understand it's for the calendar year
of twenty twenty four. I know, like it's always confusing
because they used to be in un now they're in October,
so it even stretches in people's minds when stuff happened.
But it's for the calendar year of twenty twenty four.
That's what the nominations are. So everything that's happened in
twenty twenty five is for next year's Emmys.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
Yes, for people who are wondering about our Audition Days Awards,
we follow the same model that the Emmys do, So
our twenty twenty five awards is going to cover twenty
twenty four content. And again it's like it's a lot
because basically for Days itself, Days probably is like it's
this is stuff they filmed like two years ago, So

(01:58:35):
you get all the other people in the industry. Now,
you know how Days of Our Lives feels that we
pushed this all the way to October.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
No, no, all right, well those are the nominees.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Next up, big news while we were away, we have
a new Chad Demarra. As we know, Billy Flynn has
sadly exited the role of Chadamara to take on the
role of Kane Ashby on The Young and the Restless.
But I Young and the Restless alum who actually is

(01:59:12):
only just barely recently an alum because he's technically had
scenes with Billy on the show on Young and the Restless,
uh not two weeks ago. We'll be moving over to
Days of Our Lives. Welcome Connor Floyd to Days of
Our Lives. He will be taking over the role of
Chadamara and to Tony Straggrin. This was announced very early

(01:59:35):
because he will not make his on screen appearance until
April twenty twenty six. Well, yes, you could see Tony
hair rolls. I am very excited about this news because
I have seen his work on Young the Restless. I
think he is a great asset. If you guys have
not caught his stuff, try to go check out a

(01:59:57):
couple of scenes of his they I think that this
is a great recast. I was not. I was still
in mourning for losing Billy, but this is a great choice.
Well again, once again to Marnie about well done, well done.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
Let's let's be clear. I am not unhappy with the
recast of Chad. I am very excited for Billy to
move on to YNR. Welcome Connor to Salem.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
My issue is, if you don't know what your issue is.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
I don't want to know who's coming in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (02:00:42):
April of twenty twenty six to boot. That was really
far out too.

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
Like the huge eye roll that I gave. And on
top of that, I believe this was his first day.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
So that's why they announced it, because probably nobody can
hold water until six But nobody told y'all to film
so far in advance to where you have to make
announcements about people who are coming on six mm. In
the words of R. S. L. E Avolz, get over it. Well,

(02:01:23):
I won't stop.

Speaker 3 (02:01:25):
Let's announce it.

Speaker 4 (02:01:26):
The words of JJ Demara the Devereaux, he said that
this week, didn't he?

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
Oh did he?

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
Yeah? He did.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
He did.

Speaker 1 (02:01:36):
Yeah, it's just so Welcome Connor.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
Welcome Connor. I think it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:01:43):
I love that these other soaps are taking these these
actors from Young and Restless that Young and the Restles
apparently have squandered, and they're like, yes, take our lead role.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
Oh my god, can can we start doing the daytime
draft where it's like when up next? Our drafted Billy
Flynn from Theays of Our Lives been playing Chad Deamer
for the past ten years. Nominated for a daytime Emmy
up for grabs anyone as going over to Young and
the Restless. I love it they should do that anyway.

(02:02:19):
Welcome Connor, April. He is fine, though, he is fine.
He is fine. Look at those arms.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
I sent you that real for a reason, Michael.

Speaker 1 (02:02:27):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (02:02:28):
You said, well, I'll have to go look at it again.

Speaker 2 (02:02:31):
You texted me like right away after I send.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
It to you. What night was it?

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
A night where it wasn't so so drying.

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
The other casting news, our own Jackie Harry has been
cast on the second season of Ted Danson's Netflix comedy
Man on the Inside. No word yet on how many
episodes she will be in, but the second season will
premiere later this year on Netflix. Booked and Busy are.

Speaker 3 (02:03:01):
Miss and I just saw her on Lifetime too. Oh yes,
here's a bunch of those movies.

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
Yeah, here, there, everywhere. It's hard to keep up with her.

Speaker 3 (02:03:12):
Mm hmm. Next up, we have a few birthdays in
the Day's family to celebrate this past week and today.
This past week we had Susan Rogers and Susan c
fth Hayes.

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
We had Judy.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
Evans, and then today was Leo Howard's birthday, so big, big,
happy birthday to all four of them. Hopefully they enjoyed it.
We a few clips, especially Judy I think was out
on the boat sort of living her best life. Yeah,
happy birthday to them. Next up, we want to this
actually is now has a premiere now since we've been

(02:03:44):
on a new podcast with Greg Rigor and Rebecca Butting
called Sophy. It's a new CBS podcast. Holl Stip by
them focuses sort of on part of it is sort
of reminiscing about their years on CBS soaps and also
bringing guest stars. Diitre Hall is slated to guests on
a future episode. We will, of course let you know

(02:04:05):
when we have that information, but new episodes drop every
week through September thirtieth, so at this point it's sort
of a limited limited episode podcasts and it's on all
streaming platforms and you can catch it off see the
video on CBS's YouTube.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Channel there and here's a trailer. Yes, Soaphy, Hello everybody.

Speaker 7 (02:04:27):
I'm Greg Rickhart, Daytime's favorite chaotic interloper, whether it's Leo
Stark on Is Our Lives or we formed bad Boy
Kevin Fisher on the own The Rustlers.

Speaker 8 (02:04:34):
And I'm Rebecca Budde whether you know me as Taylor
on the Gold and Beautiful Greatly from all my children,
Hayden from General Hospital, or Michelle from Guiding Light.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
We are so.

Speaker 8 (02:04:44):
Excited for you to join us on our podcast, Soapy.
So I don't know, we've spent a lot of our
lives on soaps and whether you are into daytime or nighttime,
are you going to talk all things sophy? So we decided,
since we know each other so well, that we should
interview all of people that we know and people that
we don't know, and.

Speaker 7 (02:05:03):
This show celebrate our genre, coming from a place of
love and reverence and respect for the incredibly challenging and
hard and fun work that we get to do daytime soaps.

Speaker 8 (02:05:13):
I'm really excited every week Reg and I are going
to sit down with actors, writers, producers, and other taste
makers who make all of these shows happen.

Speaker 1 (02:05:22):
From Eric Brayden, fame is a very dangerous thing.

Speaker 4 (02:05:28):
Hall, you don't end up leaving the soap, and we
both said, no, this isn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:38):
This is one thing, but this isn't the soap.

Speaker 7 (02:05:40):
Mark Terry.

Speaker 2 (02:05:41):
I came up with the title first Desperate Housewives, and
I wrote the script and it was the best thing
I'd ever written, and no one bought it.

Speaker 8 (02:05:48):
We're so excited to share Sophie with you starting Tuesday,
July eighth.

Speaker 7 (02:05:52):
Follow Sophie on the pre Odyssey app or wherever you
get your podcasts.

Speaker 3 (02:06:02):
SLPY, Yeah to check them out. Next up, we had
an interview with Josh Taylor. He sat down with the
Parade magazine, so really interesting. I urge people to go
check it out. Is really sort of insightful and nice
to just hear at Josh's perspective and we talked about
everything from fifty years being on daytime TV. He talked
about Kate and Marlena in those marriages as Roman and

(02:06:27):
I think they asked him if he was sort of
ready to retire and he said, hell no, he's having
way too much fun on days right now to retire,
and so he's playing mystick around for as long as
they have him. And you can check out that article
at Parade dot com. And then Camilla Bano's former Gabby,
she has a new movie. This one is. It's sort

(02:06:47):
of a comedy thriller called Get Off My Lawn. It's
starting her and Taja Maori as a couple moved into
this house that the previous owner sort of has a
deranged relative who is sort of kind of stopped being
them and it looks like really fun. It's on to B.
It's streaming right now.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
Go check it out.

Speaker 3 (02:07:05):
Seems like it's getting it's getting a lot of attention here,
so go check that out. Get Off My Law on
to B.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
Sorry you get off my Lawn?

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
All right? Next up, congratulations to us. The Million Podcasts,
which is a podcast research and database site, just ranked
the thirty best Soap Opera podcast and we came in
at number three, So thank you to Million Podcasts for that.
You can check out the full list at Millionpodcasts dot.

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Com have a four point eight rating out of five.

Speaker 6 (02:07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:07:40):
Yeah, and I did notice our ratings are huge and
also what sorry our rating huges And also compared to
the reviews, we had the largest number of reviews as well.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
So yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (02:07:54):
Yeah, nice to see everyone. Yeah, the reminders were starting
out with the day Players.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
The Archie The day Players.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
Yes, they are continuing their tour into two twenty five.
We know they're going to be a Glendale, Toronto, Lando.
They've actually added Cedar, Rapids, Desmoyd and Omaha, Nebraska through
September of this year. So for tickets at information you
go to the dayplaysband dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
The day Players.

Speaker 2 (02:08:31):
Next up, Starstruk Fan Events is going to be having
a special one day fan event Sunday, August third in
Long Beach, California. So if anybody around you want to
attend that starts. Attending will be Tayl penglis Lean Hunley,
Susan Hayes, Brian de Tilla, and Susan Rogers. For serious

(02:08:51):
inquiries for this event, you need to DM at Starstruk
Fanoments two or email Starstruck Fans to AOL for more
information because this is kind of an exclusive event, so
make sure that you get on that if you're in
the area. So there is there was an upcoming event

(02:09:16):
that was going to be held in Orlando later this
year on October, the weekend of the October seventeenth through
the nineteenth, and we have previously told you that this
event was canceled it we have since been updated that
it is in the process of being reworked. It has
to be reworked because this date clashes with the Emmys,

(02:09:37):
with the daytime Emmys, so it's going to be rescheduled
us but Starstruck Fans Fan Events is trying to get
it back off the ground. In this event that is
scheduled that was previously scheduled for October is to include
Stacy I Do, Casey Moss, Sherry man Is, Paul tel For,
Lindsay Godfrey, Matthew Afshard, and Brianda Tillow. So just keep

(02:09:58):
following Starstruck Fans on Instagram for upcoming updates if they
can possibly rework that around the Emmys and save the
date for this fan event that they are throwing a
Stone Mountain Park in Georgia. This will be the weekend
of just December thirteenth through fourteenth. Talent and details to

(02:10:19):
come soon.

Speaker 4 (02:10:21):
The Orlando event is going to be September nineteenth through
the twenty first, according to their Instagram okay as of
eight hours ago.

Speaker 2 (02:10:29):
Okay, as of eight hours ago. Okay, So we will
we will update that next week with updated information. But yeah,
just keep following if you if you're in the area
and want is tend to the event, make sure that
you follow them on social media.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
Next up we have Start Image Entertainment. We have of
course the Day Players Toronto show that they partnered with,
and then of course we have our Days of Our
Lives in Nashville. This event of course October, the weekend
of October fourth and fifth, at the Holiday Inn in
Nashville Downtown. All tickets and information you're going to event
bright dot com in Entertainment.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
And the Samantha and Friends has a couple of upcoming events.
As we've been mentioning, their Haunting Mansion event will be
taking place the weekend of September thirteenth through fourteenth, and
then they have added two new events. This next one
is going to be the Wizarding World of Harry Potter themed.

(02:11:26):
This will be May second and third of next year.
Confirmed so far are going to be Mike Manning, Christos
Andros from the Bay I Believe, and Gregory Martin. They
are confirmed to attend for now, so make sure that
you follow our information to stay updated on that. And
then there will be an Arabian Nights. So a year

(02:11:49):
from now, it's September twelfth through thirteenth, twenty twenty sixth
will be the Arabian Nights. The event, talent and details
will be confirmed at a later date and we'll keep
you up today on that. For tickets and information on
these events. To make sure you to go to Samantha's
Friends dot org.

Speaker 3 (02:12:10):
And let's but not least, we have a movie night fundraiser.
This one is for Stacey Haidake short film Brand New Cadillac.
Take a place Sunday, July seventh. You'll with that, you'll
get the full viewing of the short film and then
a chat with Stacy and the silent auction it'sposed to
buy Melissa and Michelle and you can go to Venmo
what is it Ruby Ruby Melissa at aol dot com

(02:12:33):
or PayPal, slash zell at Libo A two five at
gmail dot com and you can find the separation on
Stacy's Stacy's Instagram as well. So if you're interested in that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
And that has been new then gossip and now it's
time to find out what's coming up this week on
Peacock's Days of Our Lives.

Speaker 3 (02:13:02):
Next week on Days of Our Lives, the Keyoixonner writing
my son is simply recording what happened. I have an
idea that might help O.

Speaker 4 (02:13:08):
Wife stacks are claim I assume would have divorced you
out of prison.

Speaker 3 (02:13:13):
Nope, I'm still a mother, fights back. I'm not going
to let you control us like this. That's gonna end
up being a worseman.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
Say you have a name?

Speaker 3 (02:13:21):
Is that a threat?

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
I kidnapping may change everything.

Speaker 2 (02:13:25):
What if he doesn't have the money, then things are going.

Speaker 7 (02:13:27):
To get complication on new Days of Our Lives only
on Peacock.

Speaker 1 (02:13:32):
The way I would have picked up that phone and
called my grandmother and been like, already.

Speaker 3 (02:13:36):
Right, just digging. Let's dig in our pockets between the
both of us, who'll relate to the richest people.

Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
Around, Let's go to the bank, come out all right? Well,
everyone that has been audition days for this week, Thank
you so much. For tuning in and watching us. But
before we head out, Michael Madis, where can the folks
find you?

Speaker 4 (02:13:55):
You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at mL
metis and where else m l M images l A
m l MM. I'll put it in next time MLM
images LA for my photo account that has like five followers,
but thank you five followers.

Speaker 1 (02:14:16):
Well, y'all go show Michael Maddison love honey because he
only got about five followers because he don't even know
how to say his own tag thing, So y'all just
go go find it part of it. Justin Lee Harold,
where can they find you? From my Instagram at Justin
Lee Herald Rseli Adoles.

Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at ta
three two three out of Seli.

Speaker 1 (02:14:39):
And you can find a Little Lod Chocolate me on
all social media platforms at Lounger with Tony, or you
can find us at Audition Days on Facebook Edition Days,
on Instagram, Twitter x and threads, and also on the
YouTube's Thank you guys so much for tuning in to
another astoundingly pleasing, funny, hilarious huh.

Speaker 4 (02:14:59):
Six no kidding, and that I just literally just said
and Thattt Thompson followed you.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
I'll see Annette. Thank you, guys so much for tuning
in to another wonderful episode of Dish and days. We
will be back next week to give you another full
dish of this coming week's episodes of Peacock's exclusive number
one award winning hit soap opera Days of Our Lives.
In the meantime, y'all have a wonderful, safe week, enjoy yourselves.
Oh and don't forget make sure you tune in two

(02:15:28):
Days of Our Lives Monday through Friday on Peacock until
next week. Good night, everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:16:02):
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