Ep.572: Was the Rams WIN more IMPRESSIVE than we thought?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, guys, welcome back to Downtown Rams. As always,
I'm Alexis Kraft. Join here with my co host Jake
ellen Bogan, and guys, we are coming to you live
tonight to recap the Rams win over the Baltimore Ravens
yesterday in Baltimore seventeen to three. Jake, the Rams are
back in the win column and it feels great, feels

(00:23):
good coming off that Thursday night football game. The Rams
went to Baltimore, took care of business, and the score
wasn't quite what I think people expected it to be,
but nevertheless, it's a Rams win and we saw a
lot of good things from this football team against Baltimore,
and that's what matters. I think a win is a win,
is a win is a win. Rams moved to four

(00:45):
and two, which feels nice, feels good. What are your
overall thoughts about what you saw yesterday, Jake?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, I mean if you had asked me this right
after the game, I was a little annoyed that we
only got seventeen points. Okay, like we only got seventeen
points out of the Rams. That annoyed me. But then
I watched the film and I have a different perspective.
I had the perspective of Sean Dolak plays thirty five
snaps and looks like a stud Waram mcclennon junior looks

(01:15):
better than Rob haven Stein has looked at any point
this year. You start to see the Rams having to
play in an uncomfortable position without Pukinakua and adjusting on
the fly, Matthew Stafford looking like an MVP like he has,
and you start to see the defense after last week
being there at so far and watching the defense just

(01:38):
give up dink and dunk after dink and dunk and
just let Mac Jones march all over you. The defense
really stepped up big in this game and the Ravens.
There was a lot of misconceptions about the Ravens coming
into this game. First off, the misconception was that the
Ravens are really good. Now that proven to be wrong

(02:01):
with the Texans, so of course that nullified the win
against you know, the Lions, had it nullified the Bills.
As we can see, you know, on on Monday Night football,
the Bills don't look so great. So the Ravens aren't
who we thought that they were going to be. That said,
the Ravens also aren't as bad as the iteration of
the Ravens against the Texans last week. And I don't

(02:22):
feel like everyone realized that. I broke that down in
a video and I said, look, they're going after a
Loie Gilman here, they get him, They're going to address
the issue. The guy that started for them, Lowry Ruben
Lowry the third last week, was cut. He just got
claimed by the Colts. So he gave up two touchdowns

(02:44):
in that game to C. J.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Stroud.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Now Kyle Hamilton's back, who's one of the best, if
not the best, safety in football. Marlon Humphrey's back for
this game, and you added a Lowe Gilman and you
added Chauncey Gardner Johnson. So I'm not saying saying that
they had a full clean bill of health. I'm not
saying that Lamar Jackson played, I know, but their offensive

(03:07):
line was pretty healthy. They also got back Ronnie Stanley
before he left the game and Joe Nopum took over,
and we can definitely see what happened there. But the
point being is that it is hard to win in
the NFL. This isn't Alabama versus Citadel, This is a
Baltimore Ravens team that was in the AFC Championship Game

(03:28):
last year and they could have gone to the Super Bowl.
That's what we're talking about right now. We're talking about
a team that is one of the best, one of
the class of you know, the AFC. And I know
they're banged up and they're having a down year, but
you went across country. You played at ten am. Your

(03:49):
time jet lagged, for sure, and you showed up off
a ten day break after a brutal loss at home
to your division rival, and you stepped up and you
know you held you know you held Derrick Henry, You
held the Ravens at the goal line, and you never

(04:10):
looked back. And so while it was seventeen to three guys,
I mean, they just dominated this football game. It really
wasn't close in the second half. They left a lot
of points on the field. And I get that, but
that's a good problem to have when you're winning games.
That becomes a problem when you're not winning games. The
Rams continue to make stupid mistakes, no doubt about it,

(04:31):
but they're still finding a way to win. And when
your only two losses come down to the wire on
the final play, of the game, and there's some flukey
plays at that with the block field goal, you have
to feel good about where this team is at. Anybody
that you know wants to say the Rams aren't a
playoff team or wants to overreact, that's fine, that's your prerogative.

(04:52):
But like I said, look at the Bills losing twenty
one to seven on mon Ani Football against the Falcons.
Look at the Eagles losing two straight, including one of
which they lost Thursday Night Football by seventeen points to
Jackson Dart and the Giants without Malik Neighbors. This is
what the league is right now. I've been saying this

(05:13):
for a while, but the league doesn't have a ton
of great teams. The great teams are going to come
out of the woodwork in the second half in the season.
And luckily you're rooting for the Rams. They're a team
that has been one of the more dominant teams in
the second half of the season the last two years.
And that team right there, those two teams in twenty

(05:35):
twenty three and twenty twenty four simply do not have
in common with this team. Has those two teams started horribly.
This team is four and two and has people complaining
about it.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
That's the difference.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, I thought, you know, this game, as I mentioned earlier,
it didn't go maybe how a lot of people thought
it was going to go. But I think that's some
of the issues, you know, that we have are really
the same issues that stemmed from stuff that we've talked
about in previous episodes. Right leaving points off the board
seventeen to three, when this Rams team very easily could

(06:11):
have put up a lot more points against the Ravens
with the way that the Ravens played, and it was
that same red zone. I mean, there's a couple of mistakes,
but you look at red zone play calling again, mishappens
in the red zone, special teams with the kicks. You know,
we got the missfield goal and then we had, you know,
a Stafford fumble. Like the game just started off a

(06:32):
little bit shaky, which again is not all that unusual
considering the fact that the Rams are on the road,
They're on the East Coast. It was a very windy day.
It was ten am, you know their time, right, so whatever,
but you show up and you play football. So the
game started off a little bit shaky. But again, as
you mentioned, the second half, the Rams really really took off,

(06:52):
and I thought that what you start to see there
is with this football team is that our defense has
its flaws, but over all is playing very well. I mean,
this defense stepped up against Derrick Henry, right, we talked
about that the last episode, and how you know the Ravens. Obviously,
with Cooper Russian there, we're gonna probably try to get

(07:13):
Dereck Henry involved. And it looked right away the first
couple defensive drives Derrick Henry did really well, and I
remember thinking, oh, no, here we go, right, Derrick Henry,
he's in there, He's getting all these yards. I was like,
maybe this is gonna work.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
For the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
But the defense figured it out. It just took a
couple drives and then all of a sudden you started
to see a similar story with Derrick Henry as we
saw with Saquon Barkley and Jonathan Taylor. This Rams defense
played very very well against the run. And then you
look at offensively, right, we start off having kind of
those issues getting points on the board, scoring, you know,

(07:47):
kind of diversifying a little bit, we a little bit
on offense, but it was nice to see Jordan Whittington
get involved, which I liked. I think we both talked
about how we expected Whittington to have a big game
and then two two out one ended up being out,
you know, last minute due to hamstring injury, so you know,
that opened the door I think a little bit more
for Jordan Whittington, and we saw kier and Williams have

(08:12):
an incredible game, arguably his best of the season, with
two crucial back to back plays, right that insane catch
on fourth down and then scoring in the red zone,
which is something I think Sean McVay, in all honesty
should get back to utilizing Kyle Williams maybe more in
the red zone considering that seems to be a problem

(08:33):
for us right now. But Jake terrece ferguson sightings right,
I mean, he wasn't quite utilized the way that I
would have liked to have seen him utilize, but at
least he's there. I think that that's the idea. I
think it's like they're testing the waters. They're getting him
in there a little bit, although I do think he
needs a bigger role.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
And I just thought that things started to kind of
especially that fourth quarter, third, fourth quarter, start to like
look more fluid for the Rams, particularly offensively, which I
think right now is the concern with the Rams. It's
I mean, we have maybe.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
A corner cornerback discussion.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Although I thought they looked great this game, but offensively, Jake,
what were your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, I thought offensively, you know, Stafford looked really good.
I thought Kyron Williams was really good. I actually thought
his best game was against the forty nine ers. To
be honest with you, I thought he was fantastic in
that game, and the funble just kind of clouded what
was a fantastic effort in the passing game. But you know,
give Sean McVay a lot of credit. Hey, Kyron Williams,

(09:37):
he works in the red zone. You're having a hard time, Like,
trust me, I get it.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
You want to go back to when you know you
were able to throw in the red zone with some confidence,
you know, Robert Woods, Cooper Cup all that. Well, right now,
you're not there yet. Okay, you will get there. You're
not there yet, so just run it, just throw it.
Just get it to Kyroen right, because he is the
guy that has a nose for the end zone and
that is just evident on film. But Kyra Williams in

(10:03):
the passing game, they didn't like feature him, but when
push came to shove, he made some really big plays.
So I like that he was activated in the passing
game once again a little bit more than he has
been and I think that was a big reason why
that they were able to kind of pull away. And
I know it was only seventeen to three, but I
was thinking about this, like someone asked this to you,

(10:23):
and then I'll get back to you know, answering your question.
Would you rather the Rams win seventeen to three or
would you rather them win because it's a fourteen point win?
Or would you rather have let's say twenty four to ten,
or let's just say twenty seven to thirteen. Personally, I

(10:44):
think seventeen to three because I think the defense doing
what they did, holding him to three points, the second
fewest points in Raven's history in Baltimore, I think that
was more impressive.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I think that you know, anytime that you can hold
a team to three points is a statement game, and
I think, especially kind of where the Rams.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Are at, for the defense to be able to do
that yeah, very great.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So so going back to the offense, you know we
talk about Pooka Nakua, he gets hurt. Yeah, but you
are you just mentioned too too Outwell was hurt. So
it wasn't just as simple, oh well, Nikoua is out,
but you have at Well. No, it was more so, hmm,
you don't have Atwell who is the deep threat. You
don't have Nikua who's the underneath threat. And now DeVante
Adams has to win, likely going to be double team

(11:35):
the rest of the game. At that point, Jordan Whittington
had some drops. Was kind of disappointing. I mean, I
like they got opportunities, but was disappointing that he didn't
make the most of them. But you did see that explosiveness.
And I'm not out on him or anything like that.
Knate Mumfield caught his first pass of his career, so
shout out to him on the bubble screen to pick
up the first down. It's funny they've done that now twice.

(11:58):
Last week it was to Terrence first Sin on that
back shoulder fade had to have it on a third
and four, and then this week, you know, I think
it was like a third and four third and five,
they go seven yards to Kanate Mumfield And first thing
I thought was, oh, they're running the ball because when
they Kannant Mumfield's out there, he's just out there to block.

(12:18):
And they had me fooled. They actually threw it to him.
So you like to see things like that. You like
to see Xavier Smith getting involved, but they missed too
too out Well, there are a lot of things that
they were trying to activate in this offense, especially with
I mean, let's be honest here, when you look at
the offensive line the way they protected, you got to
give a lot of credit. I don't care that there
was help with the chipping. I do not care. Wara

(12:41):
mcclennon Jr. Looked better than at any point Rob haven
Siginns looked this year. I'm a huge Rob fan. And
then in addition to that, Alerc Jackson was great. In
addition to that, Steve Avula returned and he looked the
part I said it. Sixteen reps is all he had
in pass Pro and Week one against the Texans, and
I'm like, that's Steve Ovula. That he is back to

(13:04):
where he was his rookie year. He is that good.
He made an immediate impact. Was one of the highest
rated offensive guards in the league according to PFF this week,
and there's a reason he was outstanding, really impressive stuff
from the offensive line. And this is where I bring
my final point, although I really like seeing what Tyler

(13:25):
Higbee did as well, But my final point here is
this not having two two out well, not having Pookinakua.
There's a lot of moments in the game where Stafford
has more time than maybe he needed, and I think
those are the moments where now a long, developing deep
ball would have made a lot of sense. Maybe maybe
McVeigh could have gotten you know, Jordan Whittington to stretch

(13:47):
the field a little bit, and he could absolutely do that,
but he didn't. It feels like there's a comfortability with
Atwell but nobody else, and so I think they were
really missing at Well in this game, especially when Nakua
went down and so you saw extra time and Stafford
kind of ended up holding onto the football and not
throwing the football that I think he probably throws last year.

(14:07):
In the year prior, there's definitely been conversations and there's
ben decisions made on the part of Stafford. You can
tell he's not trying to fit it into a tight
window as often because even though he can and he's
got the crazy, god given talent, he also is aware
the way he's playing football right now is at an
MVP clip and he's not trying to essentially keep his

(14:29):
stats looking good. He's trying to make sure he doesn't
turn the ball over. Only two interceptions this year. The
fumble sucks. That was a blown up rep by Coleman Shelton.
But alexis only three pressures from this offensive line. That
is just what the doctor ordered for the Rams. And
I'm excited for the future because I understand this was
not the best pass rush we talked about it. Odefey

(14:50):
Away is out, non de Madabike is out, but I
was really impressed with those guys. I'm hoping it translates
because next week it's not going to be easy against
a really good defense, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I agree. I think that you know both both things
can be true. That you know and Blaine Grisak, who
you and I both know and who's a great content creator,
you know for the Rams as well on X and
I'm gonna butcher this. I don't remember what he said
word for a word, but he pulled up some stats
and basically said, two things can be true. The Ravens
pass pass rush can be like not great, but the

(15:23):
Rams offensive line also played really good. Those can be
simultaneously true. And I think, you know, for a game
like this, for where the Rams are at and really
kind of needing to prove that they could have that chemistry,
that they could protect Stafford, that they can put together
a complete game, they made the most of their opportunities
that you know, all you can do is make the
most of the opportunities you're given, and I thought they
did a really good job really for most of the

(15:46):
game against Baltimore. I mean, you mentioned the fumble that
was unfortunate, but you know, we got that out of
the way. Stafford fumble just you know whatever, first drive,
Uh it was. I think what was unfortunate about that
is the fact that it came just after a Quinton
Lake interception, because we get the Quinton Lakes interception and
then the next play was the fumble, So that was

(16:08):
a little bit of a bummer.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
But again, that.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
First quarter was just really weird. I think we can
all agree that the first quarter was just really weird.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
It was strange. Maybe it was a.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Thirty mile an hour wins whatever, weird energy in the air.
So yeah, no, I I I'm very optimistic for how
you know, this offense looks, you know, going forward, and
I know, you know, you bring up pookin Akua who
got injured. Sounds like it's an ankle sprain, and it
sounds like, you know, the game in London for him
is a little bit up in the air. Probably could go.

(16:40):
Maybe some people think, other people think not. I think
I'm in kind of the camp like when you have
a talent like pokin Akua, like you're not pushing it.
In my opinion, I know that it's tough because you know,
Jacksonville is a very very good team and that's going
to be a really hard game. And all of the
London games this year have been so bizarre that it's

(17:03):
like who knows what's in store next Sunday for the
Rams and the Jaguars. But I just I don't want
Puka to be in a position where he makes that
injury worse and then you know, we lose him for
more time.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
But we'll see.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
But the point of that was, you know, Puka Nukua
gets hurt, you know, he goes out. Blake Korm was
injured for a little bit. He ended up coming back
as well, which was a good sign. But we did,
you know, see in Puka's absence, you know, some of
these other receivers getting touches. Jake, what were your thoughts
about the call with Terrence Ferguson on the down kind

(17:38):
of the jet suite.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Part of me likes it because I like the creativity.
Part of me doesn't like it because I know who
Terrence Ferguson is and while he's a great athlete, he's
he's got build up speed. What I mean is it
takes him about ten fifteen yards to really move up field,
and that's why as a deep threat he can be
a problem. But he doesn't have that explosion that you're

(18:02):
looking for. Fannin didn't have that.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean Warren, I guess to a agree, but like
none of the tight ends have that explosion where you
could just do an end around and they're just gonna explode,
you know what I mean. I would probably say the
closest thing maybe Arroyo in Seattle, but like that's the
thing you do something like that. The guy has to
be like quick and just take off like a rocket,

(18:27):
and I just didn't feel like that was the best
course of action. I don't think Tyler Higbee scores on that,
Davis Allen definitely doesn't Tyler Kobe Parkinson. So Terrence Ferguson
might have had the best shot, but I just don't
think that is a winning play there, especially because I
didn't like the way it was blocked.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Either.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I would have done that to Jordan. I would have
I would have faked it to Jordan Winnington and thrown
into the flat and had some sort of like maybe
like a screen or something like that for Ferguson. But
I think they gotta throw the ball to him, you know,
you got to get him involved in the receiving game.
I do think we are going to see more of
that moving forward. Do we see that against Jacksonville That

(19:08):
I don't know, but I do think off the buy
is what I'm expecting to see eighteen kind of get
let loose a little bit, maybe like four catches fifty
yards in a touchdown soon, right, we'll see. But if
this pukin Akua injury is going to hold him out longer,
than maybe a game or two even post buy, then

(19:31):
I think it does open the door for them to
want to use you know, Terrence Ferguson more So, Yeah,
I mean I agree. I don't think that they should
put out pukin Akua until he's ready. I don't think
they should even waste any time putting him out there
having to play injured, because let me ask you this
would would the Rams have won Super Bowl fifty six

(19:56):
without Cooper Cup?

Speaker 4 (19:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
No, right, Poka Nakua is Cooper Cup in twenty twenty one,
right now, That's what he is to this team. As
much as I love this team and I believe they
are going to win the Super Bowl, that is with
the understanding they have a clean bill of health, where yeah,
injuries can happen, but you can't lose Nakua. You can't
lose Stafford like you can't have those guys gone. And

(20:23):
so for me, I'm just trying to make sure he's healthy,
he's one hundred percent ready to go uh when he can.
But I do think this is a blessing in disguise
because one think about it, even though the injury happened,
that's wear and tear off of him. Okay, he's gonna
mis he missed most of the game. He's gonna probably
miss the Jacksonville game. Then he gets a bye. You

(20:45):
could hold him out another week against the Saints and
then have him for the forty nine Ers game. That's
two full games and then a full week off in
basically a half a game off where there's nowhere and tear,
and the way he plays the position, there's gonna beware
and tear. So I actually think it's a blessing in
disguise in that regard, as well as the fact that

(21:05):
they can get other guys involved and maybe get them
more reps than they normally would have had you talk
about it too too out well, Jordan Winnington, Momfield, Xavier Smith,
maybe you call it Brennan Presley from the practice squad.
Guys like that, right, So I do think that's an opportunity.
And Stafford like people act like Stafford needs all these
top weapons, and that just couldn't be further from the truth.

(21:27):
I remember he was throwing to Adrian Peterson in Detroit,
who was on his way out the door and out
of the NFL. He was throwing to Danny Amandola at
the very end of his career, he's throwing to guys
like Zach Zenner. You know, he's throwing to like That's
the thing is that Stafford has thrown all sorts of receivers.

(21:48):
He doesn't just need to throw to the big names.
So I think that'll be good for him. I think, yeah,
it's a blessing in disguise because he doesn't need to
go out there and get you know, potentially hurt, playing
injured because of how deep the RAMS weapons are. And
does this mean that maybe you know, you use Kyra

(22:10):
Williams in the slot sometimes and you put Blake korme
At running back on those plays, or maybe bring in,
you know, a Jarquiz Hunter and you put Kyra in
the slot. I think Kyron's past catching ability offers something
that they didn't have before. They can put him out
in the slot. We see the Bills do this sometimes

(22:30):
with James Cook. We've seen this with Bjon Robinson with
the Falcons. We've seen this with Christian McCaffrey in the
forty nine ers. I would like to see them do
stuff like that. I'd like to see them get t
Ferg involved more. We saw Tyler Higbee get more involved
in look like Tyler Higbee. So it's gonna be interesting.
But I do believe this is a blessing in disguise

(22:51):
and the Rams should not be forcing their hand to
get Puka Nakua involved if he's not healthy.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
I agree, I just don't think it's worth it. I
think that you know, you you risk not having him
involved for one game, maybe two games, instead of putting
him out there and then risking he's out the entire season. Right,
You just you can't afford to take that risk with him,
and then you know you're gonna have to look at
guys like DeVante Adams right getting him more involved. And
he's been involved, but I think the chemistry with Stafford

(23:21):
at times is still not quite where maybe Rams fans
would like it to be. I think Stafford's been missing
Adams on a couple of these. Although I do think
that that play in the red zone, I thought Adams
should have came down with that.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know, that could have been a touchdown. But they'll
get there.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean they still have their moments as well. I
mean his chemistry with Kyrien as a receiver I think
is heating up. I mean we've seen Kien get really
involved in the passing game, you know, particularly the game
against the forty nine ers two receiving touchdowns, his play
on fourth down this game, I mean you talk about
a play of the game. It felt like that was
like the turning point for the Rams, you know, because

(23:58):
that set up his touchdown. Then the Rams were kind
of able. So I feel like defensively, then keep it
up and then offensively, you know, close out the game.
But you know, maybe we start to see Jordan Winnington
get some more touches, you know, to to out well
is going to come back. It sounds like it was
just a one game injury, so you know he'll be
involved again. But I really want to see Terrence Varguson involved.

(24:22):
You know, he's your second round pick at tight end.
You know that he could be a vertical threat. You
know that he's a red zone threat. The Rams have
to fix the red zone problem.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
They just have to.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I don't care if you run the ball three times
when your first and goal, if that's what it takes,
because we have to start walking away from the red
zone with touchdowns, especially because our special teams unit and
kicking unit is struggling, and I think it's really really frustrating.
You know, we talk about seventeen to three. This could
have been twenty seven to three, could have been twenty

(24:54):
to three, right, you know, you look at all of
the drives. You know that that stall out because the
rams can't figure it out in the red zone. And
I think it's a couple of different things. But I
think number one play calling is just not sufficient.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
And the reds.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I mean that that third and fourth call I thought
was ridiculous with like Terrence Ferguson. I don't know what
he was trying to prove there McVeigh, but like it
was bad that you don't put your six five tight
end running the Jets sweep on third and four. Like
it just was so bizarre to me. Like these these
play calls have to be better, like I said, if
you have to run it three times and it has
to be the most boring drive ever, I mean, at

(25:29):
least it's not we don't do the tush push or
some shade there, right at least, so at least we're
not doing But you know, like like I don't care
what you have to do, but just get it done
in the red zone. I think that that we're at
a place now in the season where the Rams really
need to figure it out. But other than that, like offensively,
not too many complaints, especially when the offensive line it

(25:50):
looks like it's starting to kind of hold up. I mean,
we'll see how they do against Jacksonville. It'll be a
much different story, a much different pass rush. But I
think first and foremost, I think that's, you know, the issue.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Right now. The biggest issue for the Rams, I think
is the red zone.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, well, absolutely, the red zone is the biggest issue,
aside from the special teams obviously, which is the the
biggest issue. I mean so much so, I don't really
know what to say at this point. You know, I
don't like calling for people's jobs, but Chase Blackburn needs

(26:28):
to turn this thing around. Without a doubt. They are
ranked thirtieth, tied with the Packers for second worst in
the league according to PFF. And I don't know, I
don't know if you saw my tweet, but I thought
it was interesting. I was doing some research today and like, look,
I don't look at PFF like it's the Bible, but

(26:49):
I do think that some of their metrics are interesting.
And I don't know if you knew this, but PFF
has the Rams is the number one overall team in
the NFL. They have them as the second offensive team,
they have them as the third defensive team. They have
the number one passing offense, they have the fourth run defense,

(27:11):
the fifth pass rush, fifth coverage. There's a lot of
stuff there, but the point being is PFF thinks the
Rams are doing a great job. And I keep saying this,
and I keep I was saying it with the forty
nine Ers game, and I just think if they had
lost that game to anyone that's not the forty nine Ers,
I think that there's a bias there. Rightfully, so there's

(27:32):
a rivalry, and I think, especially people in LA, they
needed that win, and so it doesn't matter. It wouldn't
have mattered what the Rams did against the Ravens. There
are a lot of people that are still really upset
that they lost to the forty nine Ers the way
they did. If they lost that same way to the Seahawks,
to the Cardinals, to the Patriots, to the Steelers, it

(27:55):
wouldn't have mattered. The Raiders would not have mattered the
forty nine ers. It's different, and so I think, Alexai
is what I'm noticing that there are a lot of
fans that are actually clouding really what the Rams truly are.
They're not really being satisfied with what they are, and
like I understand it. But at the same time, I
think they got something special here, and I think when

(28:16):
you look across the league, as I mentioned earlier, there's
not really anybody that's playing great football. But I found
it interesting because PFF has them is the number one
overall team. So again not the Bible, right, but they
are tied with the Steelers for second in takeaways, and
they forced the most fumbles. They average a fumble forced

(28:38):
a game, Thank you kaugh cough Nate Landman, who was insane.
They score a team score against them eighteen point three
points per game. That's third behind only Houston and Denver.
That would be the best for their entire McVeigh run.
That would be the best defensive output. They're on pace

(28:59):
at twenty eight turnovers, which would be the second most
since actually it would be tied for the most since
twenty seventeen. And I'll just say this, my father brought
this up his research. The last twenty teams in the
Super Bowl the last ten years, right, only five finished

(29:21):
outside the top four in PFF rankings. Nine of the
last ten years, the team that was number one in
PFF rankings was in the Super Bowl. So I understand
there's a lot of people that want to be like, oh,
Rams didn't play anybody, and it was Cooper Rush and
they lost to the good the forty nine ers JV
team and they lost to the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
And but here's the thing. Everyone, out of every team in.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
This league, no one has really stood up and said
I'm the best, I'm the alpha dog, I'm the captain
of the ship. When you look at the Rams, they
have a lot of different things that are going well
for them quietly, and when things come together, this could
compile and just they could go nuclear in the second half.
And that's kind of what I'm expecting. So yeah, I

(30:11):
think really just kind of looking at the way the
defense is playing, look at the passing attack. I don't
think people realize what the Rams are building. But again,
a team that has already shown you, Sean McVay, that
has already shown you he's figured out how to coach
in the second half of seasons like watch out, like
you know, and so I understand, like, yeah, not the

(30:33):
most exciting win, but it was a good win, and
I'm expecting him to keep this thing going.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, I mean, I agree, and I think, you know,
I'm really curious to see going forward what happens with
special teams, because that's just it's just it's a massive
red flag and I don't particularly know.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
What the course of action is.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I think that there's been a lot of unfair blame
put on Joshua Cardy, and I think that's really unfortunate.
And I think that, you know, obviously the team knows
what's going on, you know, and I think McVeigh was
very fair with his comments about special teams and standing
by Joshua Carty, and I think if the Rams can
figure that out, then everything else is just kind of

(31:20):
like these these minor tweaks that you need to make.
And I think that, you know, we talk about the
offensive line. They looked good this game. We might be
having a different discussion, like I said, after next week,
but you know, for now, I'm really happy to see
what the progress is with the offensive line. We could
figure things out and you know, in the red zone,
and you know, Jake closing out this episode talking about stars.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Of the game looking at the defense.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I mean Nate Lambman, Jared vers I mean, listen, people
can people are sometimes hard on Jared Versus, I think unjustifiably.
So I know that sometimes he leaves sacks out there, right,
But I mean he has been playing great football.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
He is him and he.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Again nobody's perfect. These little things that he can work on.
But you look at like the game that like him
and Ladman had and the kind of just the stand
that the defense makes. I mean, this defense is no joke.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
And I know that.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
There's some concerns in the secondary. Those will see if
the Rams address those or not. I thought they had
a much better game against the Ravens than they have
in previous games. But I mean the defense for the
Rams right now has been what's been keeping the Rams
in games, especially with these red zone problems that we
talk about. I mean, the Rams offense is getting I

(32:30):
think they're figuring it out, but you know they aren't
going out there and just like lighting it up and
scoring touchdowns every drive and you know, letting the defense
have room for error. The defense is the one kind
of going out there giving the offense room for error.
So and they're only going to get better in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Going forward, I agree completely. Like how I see the
red zone offense is going to get better. I think
this defense is only going to get better, and they're
already really good. That forty nine er game just has
people kind of focused on, Oh, well, they gave it
up to They made Kendrick Bourne look like Jerry Rice.
You're right, they absolutely did. They let Mac Jones go

(33:09):
for three hundred and forty two yards. That did happen.
But you know what they did this week. They went
back to what they've been doing against CJ. Stroud, what
they did against Jalen Hurts, what they've just been doing,
and that is just dominating off the edge, dominating in coverage.
They did a really nice job. I was really impressed.
One the pass rush was really good. Okay, you look

(33:31):
at Byron Young, He's absolutely taken another step. He has
as many sacks this year as he had all of
last year. Through six games he has He had six
pressures in this game. Jared Verse had eight pressures in
this game. Josiah Stewart looks like one of the best
rookies in the league and they're not even asking him
to play a ton of reps. But when he comes in.
He's like an energizer. Bunny can stop the run, can

(33:54):
rush the passer, can disengage. He won over forty percent
of his pass run rushing snaps. He also can drop
into coverage. He was great. Okay, Nick Hampton helps you
in the run game. Then the interior right Braden Fisk
didn't think that was his best game against the run.
I did think that was one of his better pass
rushing games. One over twenty percent of his reps. That's

(34:18):
insane for an interior defensive lineman that isn't named Aaron Donald.
In addition to that, Poona Ford Poona Ford blew up
that fourth down run to Derrick Henry. Poon of Ford
blows up almost every run. It feels like he's a
big reason why they're so dominant against the run. Poon
of Ford had three pressures to go with his dominance

(34:39):
in the run game and basically won over fourteen percent
of those those pass rushing reps. Kobe Turner didn't win
as many, but he still had three pressures. He still
helped in the run game and he was great. So
you have that pass rush, you have that run defense,
you have the defensive front. Then you factor in the
job Nate Landman is doing. He needs to be signed.

(35:01):
He looks like a combination of a few different players
that played for the Rams. You look at Corey Littleton,
I think he shows some of that. He shows some
of James laurniitis. He has some Mark Barron in his game.
There's a lot. I mean, he's a combination of a
lot of different inside backers for the Rams in the past,
and he's somebody that would one hundred percent bring back.

(35:21):
Then you have Troy Reeder play a little bit and
he wasn't bad, but I like him a lot more
on special teams, where I think he's one of the
better special teamers. Doesn't get credit. Sean Dolak was everywhere
as well. So in six games his first six games
as a Ram, Nate Landman just set a record for
most tackles in a game in franchise history was seventeen.

(35:44):
It was so crazy. The broadcast had no idea if
he had the record. They just put he has. It's
the most tackled since. It was like since two thousand
and four, are likely?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Likely?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Like what like? They had no idea. It is is
a franchise record. He's been on a tear, he forced
to fumble. The linebacker room was great, the corners were great.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Darius Williams turned back the clock and basically said fu
to the Ravens for, you know, letting him go for
Jimmy Smith back in the day when the Rams got
him and Emmanuel Forbes. Probably the most comfortable he's looked
like as a ram. I thought he looked really good.
Kobe Durant was good. Quinton Lake was. I mean, every

(36:31):
week we're talking about Quintin Lake being a star. He
gets his first interception, obviously he had one against the
Seahawks' rookie year, got called back due to penalty, but
he gets his first career interception, gets a fumble recovery.
Lake was everywhere. He's so good. Cam Kinchins, Cam Curle,
Jalen McCullough. This is one of the best defenses in
all of football. They continue to show that. Yeah, that

(36:54):
game against the forty nine ers on a short week sucked,
but they only gave up twenty six.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
It's not like they gave up forty six.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And then they follow it up by traveling across the
country that we all take for granted that is not
an easy trip. I, for one know this. I was
not feeling myself when I came back from LA. Now,
imagine you know you come back like say you're coming
from New York. You're going to LA or LA to
New York or whatever. Right, you're going across the country

(37:21):
and now you have to go out there and you
have to play. You have to play in a game,
you have to play football.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
But Sean McVay has had this thing throughout his tenure
as a Rams head coach where he makes sure that
these guys are ready to play when it matters, and
that is something I've always appreciated. Sean McVay gets his
guys prepared to play. On the East Coast, a lot
of teams have automatic losses on the schedule because everyone

(37:49):
and their mother knows they will not be ready when
the time comes to travel across the country. The Rams
almost always are, and that is a really underrated.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Aspect of it.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
So, yes, Alexis, this defense looks really freaking good. And
they're without a Kello Witherspoon, They're without omar spades, and
yet look how good they already look. Imagine what happens
when they get a Kello Witherspoon back who can match
up against any big bodied receiver in the league. That
right there is what they're missing.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, I mean it's been really really fun to watch
this defense when they get in stride and you know,
they get get hot for sure. I mean, like I said,
I think that this that's a huge part of what
is making.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
The Rams successful.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
And you bring up kind of the traveling, it's gonna
be really interesting to see, you know, the London game,
and we're gonna have a whole episode about that. We
won't you know, start previewing that yet, but you know,
they are playing next week in London against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
So for you Pacific Coasters that's going to be a
very early football game for you guys. It's still gonna

(38:53):
be early, you know, for me in the Midwest and
you know you and the the East Coast. But yeah,
sounds like based on what I say, we've seen on socials,
you know, the Rams are just staying in Baltimore. They're
not even coming back to Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
They're having practice at the Baltimore Orioles Stadium. So if
you guys didn't know that, go check it out. There's
some picks on social media. They've turned Camden Yards into
a football field in the outfield. It's pretty wild. But
you know, the Rams that are staying there obviously to
just try and avoid kind of what Jake was talking

(39:27):
about of like going from Baltimore back to La La
to London, Like it's it's already going to be a
big adjustment going to London, so I think they're just
trying to take as much travel out of it as possible.
So that's where the Rams are going to be for
the remainder of the week out in Baltimore before the
London game. But Jake, I think just in closing, you know,

(39:48):
this game against the Ravens, was really was really pleased
by the majority of things you know, we saw. I
think the same the complaints that I think we all
had are just the same things been complaining about. We
were mad about what's going on in the red zone,
you know, special teams which we touched on.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
You know, these are things that.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
There's no new issues that I think we really saw
a rise and hopefully going against Jacksonville, which like I said,
will preview, these things can get cleaned up because that
is a very good football.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
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(41:23):
here with Cheeky Metro. Who would you pick at Keller
or be Young for a new contract, So thank you
Cheeky thank you for the super chat. This is like
kind of interesting because a Kella wouldn't really cost much
compared to Byron Young. A Kello's in his thirties, he

(41:45):
should cost a decent amount, but I don't. I don't
think he's gonna cost a lot, whereas I think Byron
Young could be really expensive. You're talking about potentially a
twenty six, twenty seven year old pass rusher who right
now has seven and a half sacks, who right now

(42:05):
is one of the better pass rushers in if he
keeps this going. Because I think the biggest thing, biggest
knock on Byron Young is that second half of the
season he kind of starts to fade off a little bit.
If he doesn't do that, he's gonna get paid. So
that's the thing. Byron. I don't think it's as simple
as just going Byron Young because of how much money
you're gonna have to pay him. Who's the better player,

(42:29):
it's probably Byron Young right now. I haven't seen a
Kello play in a minute, but I think when a
Kello's back, you're gonna understand why. I mean, his presence
is already missing. Okay, So it's a good question. Chiky Alexis.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
What would you say, I mean, if I had to
choose between both of them, if it came down to
could only be one of the other, I would say
Byron Young. And I think that, you know, the Rams
are gonna need to pay him sooner than later. I
think that, you know, there's a chance that he really
explodes the second half of the season, and it'll be curious.

(43:07):
I think it'll be curious though, because it is interesting.
He is, like I don't want to say older, but
you know, twenty six twenty seven race is different than
signing a twenty four year old, twenty five year old
just coming out.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I mean, this is gonna be his first big contract,
so and I think with the way that he's playing,
I'm interested what that number will be because there's a
lot of discussion about that. But it's gonna be a big,
big price.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, it's definitely interesting. And I see will Keller be
back this year? Yes, he'll be back. I'm not worried
about a Kello returning. It's more so when does he return.
I will say this, I think my I think he's
just gonna miss Alexis in that Seattle game, unfortunately. I'd

(43:53):
love to see him where the black uniform. Yes I'm
calling it black. I don't care what they call it.
I'd love to see him where the black. I don't
think he's gonna get a chance to. I think it'll
be the So what is that for people that are wondering.
That would be against the Buccaneers on Sunday Night football,
Probably the most important game left on the schedule because

(44:14):
that could decide the number one seed the way things
are looking, so yeah, that's kind of what I see.
I don't know about you, Alexis, but I mean he's
been out since the Titans game, and okay, so that
would be he missed the Eagles, Colts, forty nine Ers, Ravens.
That's four games, Jaguars would be five, then a bye,

(44:36):
So count that as six weeks seven with the Saints,
eight with the forty nine Ers, nine with the Seahawks.
That would be ten going into the Buccaneers. I think
he could be back by the Buccaneers game. I think
he'll definitely be back by the Lions game. I'll say that.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
But yeah, it it's so frustrating.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I mean it's kind of I guess in a way,
It's a little bit of a blessing in disgui because
now when you get a Kello Witherspoon back, he's gonna
be playing like he's already acclimated in the system. He
had a full off season, but now he has nowhere
and tear whatsoever. Like obviously at the injury, but if
he rehabs and you know, successfully comes back from it,

(45:17):
he is just gonna be very ready to go. He's
not gonna be a corner that's been playing for fourteen weeks.
He's just gonna be ready to go in the second
half of the year, and that can be very critical
for having him, you know, on their postseason run. So
there's something interesting about that. Also, you know, absence makes
the heart grow fonder, and his absence in this defense

(45:41):
Lexis you're on Twitter, you see it. I feel like
people are finally And obviously there are fans out there,
people that watch this they appreciate a Kello, but there
are people that even used to not appreciate a Kello,
they used to hate on him, and they're even saying, man,
we really took four for granted, and I'm like kind
of t told you this, so hey, that could bode

(46:04):
well for him too. Maybe the Rams also are seeing
that and they're like, yeah, we did kind of take
him for granted.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
So yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Appreciate the Super eighty eight Horror fan. Thank you for
the five. Hey hey, Jake, I'm glad we won. A
win is a win. However, I still can't believe how
McVeigh chose not to take the three points and make
it a three possession game in the fourth. I understand
that I would say this in that moment that just
felt like I really need I want a touchdown here.

(46:34):
I want to get these guys going. I want to
start doing things in the red zone. I don't mind
being aggressive. I don't think I had anything to do
with Josh Cardy. I probably had more to do with
just the kicking operation itself, but I think it had
less to do with the kicking operation more that I
just want to put up six. I feel like, you know,

(46:55):
they should have had the touchdown to Devonte Adams that
he dropped. I know staff kind of putting it a
little high, but Adam's got two hands on it. You
got to catch it. That's how I viewed it. But alexis,
how did you view it? Because I had zero issue
with going for the touchdown.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I think I agree with you. I think it was
just like, we gotta start proving that we can score touchdowns,
and so I think it was just that mindset, let's
do it. I didn't have an issue with it, so yeah,
but not really.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, and this one, JAYU appreciate the super CARDI has
to go Jake enuff already. I think if you if
you saw my j E Live, you know my take
on this. Uh, I really just can't. I can't disagree enough.
I appreciate the super but you know, with all due respect,

(47:51):
I just think it's a very like emotionally reactive reaction.
If you will with Josh Cardy, if you guys want
to go to Lucas Haversick and Brett Maher all over again,
by all means, sign sign yourselves up, but don't sign
me up. I'm not about that. Josh Carty was fantastic
last year. He hit like twenty six straight kicks before

(48:13):
actually missing one, which of course was blocked. I think
it's in his head because guys in front of him
have failed miserably and they're trying to get it fixed.
And I think it's getting better. But now it's a
matter of I think a lot of what Pat McAfee said.
There could be some truth to him having that knuckleball kick,
and now all of a sudden, you know he does that.

(48:36):
Maybe it's affecting his kicking rhythm, but I just, yeah,
I just think it's it's it's a very knee jerk reaction,
and I try to avoid those.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
So again, respect your opinion.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I just I personally don't subscribe to the notion that
Cardy is the issue. I don't think Cardy needs to go.
I think we have to have some patience. I saw
people saying, why didn't they bring in Eddie Pinero to,
you know, compete, And I'll just say, I hate the
idea of bringing any kicker to compete unless your guy
is really that bad. You drafted this guy last year,

(49:12):
he was a breath of fresh air, and then he
was great in the postseason, and now a few fluky
things have gone on, and now you want to move
on from him. Be careful what you wish for, because
I'll tell you right now, first off, kicker competition is
about as useful as having a fallback on your roster,
absolutely useless. In twenty twenty five, there are fifty three

(49:35):
men on a roster. There is no way that I
am keeping two kickers. Okay, it's just not happening. They
cut Chris Paul Junior, right, they cut Willie Lampkin. They
cut these guys because they didn't have enough room, because
of how talented they are. You want them to cut
one of these guys to bring in a backup kicker?
That is, it just doesn't make any sense. So obviously

(49:59):
I'm not saying that that's you, Jayu, but a lot
of people bring that up and I just think it's
a lot of knee jerk reactions.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
But alexis, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Yeah, I've been the same school as thought, a school.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Of thought as you.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I just think, you know, what we've seen really to
start the season with these kicking woes is really stemming
from what's up front, and not so much Joshuacarty. I
don't think he's been perfect, but I think that that
whole unit is just bad. And I think it's hard
to be able to judge Joshuacarty based on people failing
to do their jobs right. So it's kind of like,

(50:34):
you know, if we had a perfect blocking, perfect special
Teams Unit and Joshuaccarty was just going out there and
getting perfect balls and just missing them, it would be
a different story. But it's just absolutely not what's happening.
You know.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
I think that they need to fix it.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
And I think that, you know, if games go on
and they do fix everything else and Cardi still is
unable to, you know, make some of these kicks or
still has these weird fluky things happen, then we can
have that conversation. But I just think it's kind of
unfair to judge him based off what we've seen happen,
which is just the Special Teams Unit falling apart, which
is bad. I mean, it's torrible, and the RAMS need

(51:11):
to fix it, but I don't think that particularly falls
just on Joshua Carty.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
So yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah, I think you got you gotta worry about flying
too close to the sun on those things, because when
you start see that's the thing I keep seeing Carty has.
What Carti has is mental. Well, if you think it's mental,
then going online and trying to push this guy out
the door, I don't think it's gonna help those mental lapses, right.

(51:43):
I don't want to see the entire city push him out.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
This is not Jake Moody. And I'm so tired of
hearing that.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Jake Moody is kicking right now for the Bears, and
people are like, well, the forty nine ers got Eddie
Pinero and he's doing great. You know, maybe that's what
we should do. Jake Moody was a top three round pick.
I believe he was picked in the third round by
the forty nine ers a few years ago and was horrendous.

(52:14):
He was so bad, like CARDI was great his rookie year,
and now people want to give up on him after
six games his second year. Like, I just don't subscribe
to that. And I mean, people keep saying, well, he
missed all these field goals. No, we didn't, like three
of them were blocked. I mean, then I hear the

(52:38):
trajectory talk, and I'm like, okay, you want to talk
about trajectory, how about this? Okay, if Ethan Evans had
three blocked punts, are you complaining about his trajectory or
is that just hey, they screwed up, because guess what,
that's what's happening with the kicker. Okay, they're screwing up.
They're not doing their job. That's the reality of that.
I don't care what anyone says. That is now gotten

(52:59):
in already's head, and we'll see if it gets out.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
I'm not giving up on him.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
And the last thing I'll say is we can't just
say all the time, Jake and Alexis and who for
you know, so forth, you guys should trust in Sean McVay.
When there are people that don't trust in Sean McVay.
It's like, well, you know, like we have, we have
a difference of opinion, and that's fine, but like you know,
we're trying to offer up solutions and you know we've

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been met with oh, well, well, we'll trust in the experts,
we'll trust in Sean McVay, we'll trust in less need.
But then on the flip side of that, the same
people that say that will tell us well, uh, yeah,
Sean McVay is wrong. It's like, so yeah, I'm I'm
kind of just I'm kind of over the rapid reaction,

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knee jerk reaction discord on Josh Carty. I think it's
just I just don't think it's based in reality. Personally,
everyone's entitled their opinion, but I can't even compute, like
I honestly think people are joking, Like I can't even
tell if people are serious.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I almost feel like it's kind of like I'm.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Being punked because it's so ridiculous to get rid of
Josh Cardi when they were They had an issue in
twenty a legitimate kicker issue in twenty twenty three with
Lucas Haversik and Brett Maher if you want to go
back to that, by all means, but anyway, let's see here.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
So we got a WSG. Good, thank you for the five.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Hey, Jake and ak who do you think UH will
trade for at the deadline? And also you think not
having Lafleur at least influenced play calling effect the red zone?
It's interesting. I would like to see McVeigh give up
play calling. I've always said that, just because I'd like

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him to focus on other things.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
I think he gets too into it.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I think he calls some great plays, he has some
great play designs, but I think there's sometimes where he
just tries to get too cute. I mean, the evidence
is right there, alexis, how many times should they just
have run it with Kiren and they'd have way more
touchdowns than they currently have. That said, I also like,

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I don't really feel like he's ever gonna give up
play calling, so I've kind of almost waived the white
flag on that. As far as who I think will
trade for at the deadline, it's tough to say. I
can't tell who's good who's bad. I mean, really, it
doesn't seem like anybody's good. It doesn't seem like, you know,
anybody knows who's bad except for the Jets.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
So I don't know who's going to be sellers. That's
the problem.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
There's nobody.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Everybody that I kind of was looking at is not
an option or isn't happening anymore. So like there's nobody
that I really want the Rams to trade for. I
want them to like explore, probably looking for a corner.
You know, I'm not opposed to looking for offensive line help,
but there's nothing really in my mind that I'm like

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dying for the Rams to do in terms of play calling.
I would like to see la Floor at least influence it.
I'm not happy with it. So I'm kind of in
that school thought. I mean, something has to give in
the red zone. I mean, we've said it like a
million times. So I know people are probably like over it,
but like it has to change, Like we cannot keep

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going into the red zone and not scoring. And in
my opinion, the play calling is the biggest problem that
we're seeing in the red zone. So I would like
to see somebody else take that over.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, I mean, I totally hear you. The trade deadline
one really appreciate the super chat. This is such a
great question. I just don't have the answer in week six.
I have guys that maybe they could be interested in.
I just don't know if they'll be available. Like I
look at you know, the Ravens as bad as it looks,
and they're one in five, they have a winnable schedule.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
They get back to five hundred and.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Then potentially go on a little bit of a run
when you know, Lamar Jackson comes back. So if the
Ravens aren't trade anybody, or if they are, then you know,
I think Cheetah, Baya, Woozy A, Marlon Humphrey could be options.
Maybe Gyr Alexander, But like, I don't know, man, I
kind of feel like the Rams are It's weird because

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every year the Rams have gone to the Super Bowl
they've made a big trade, whether that's Dante Fowler Junior
or Von Miller, that they don't have an edge need.
That's kind of the thing that kind of changes everything
is that typically edge defenders are the ones that get traded.
Trading a cornerback is tough. Trading an offensive lineman's tough.

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I just I don't know, and I mean, I don't know.
So that that's kind of where I'm at on that.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
We're in agreement, and we think everybody for tuning in.
It's much more fun to do these types of game
recaps when they're wins. Yes, And so the last game
recap that we had not so much a good vibe.
But guys, you know, as we mentioned earlier, the next
game is going to be in London against the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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So that will be a fun one to kind of
preview and cover, and Jake and I will be back
Friday night previewing that and we will be up early
Sunday morning with all of you watching it as well.
And so these London games, they have been fluky and weird.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
As hell this season.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
It has been just really really interesting to see what
goes on in London. So it'll be like an interesting
game to kind of talk about and witness and see
what happens, you know, And we hope that the Rams
are able to go overseas and get the win.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
But I think that's going to do it for us, Jake,
it's going to do it.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Do it for us tonight, guys. As always, if you
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be back Friday night, but until then, stay safe, take care,
and go Rams. Mhm