September 28, 2025 • 46 mins
What if the cure for your joint pain, arthritis, or torn ligaments has been inside you all along? This week on ‘The Dr. Bob Martin Show’, we expose Big Pharma’s dirty secret—your body can HEAL ITSELF without risky surgeries or endless pills. Is YOUR doctor keeping you in the dark? Tune in—before you waste another dollar on ‘quick fixes’ that don’t work.
Special Guest: Grant Townsend, CEO of NuvoCell Biologics, advanced regenerative medicine
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Special Guest: Grant Townsend, CEO of NuvoCell Biologics, advanced regenerative medicine
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Good day to you, and welcome Doctor Adam Brockman here,
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health truths that actually work for real lives and whether
you're icing that bum knee from last night's softball game,
or stretching out that stubborn lower back at your standing desk.
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Listen up, because today's show is about to change how
you think about pain, relief and healing. So let's talk
about those screaming joints. We've got an entire generation that's
popping in SAIDs, you know, the advil, the leave, the aspirin,
the tilnd hall like they're candy. And then we got
surgeons that are pushing joint replacements as routine. And then
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we got those slick Instagram ads that are peddling these
miracle creams that don't do anything. They do zilch. Meanwhile,
your body's own repair system, the most advanced medical technology
on Earth. It's being ignored. So let's forget the quick
fixes that fizzle out by next week. Let's use some
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raw science today on how your stem cells can rebuild cartilage,
silence that inflammation and gets you back to doing what
you love, whether that's chasing your grandkids or deadlifting personal bests.
In this hour, we're gonna break down the shocking truth
about why cortisone shots are just a band aid and
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what actually works better. We're gonna get to real patient
stories of Regenda knees, shoulders in those spines without the
scalpels and the surgeries. Plus, I'm gonna bring in a
special guest. He's a former Division one basketball player who's
walked away from injuries and he's rebuilt his body with
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Regenda medicine after many surgeries. Wait till you hear his
comeback story. And hey, this is your show. The phone
lines are open at eight hundred six zero six eight
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pain cycle, or you heard myths about stem cells, call
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six zero six eight eight two two, or visit our
website at doctor Bob dot com. All right, folks, time
to ditch the just live with it pain lie and
unlock your bodies innate power to heal. So let's go
ahead and roll. As I've discussed often on the show,
I've been involved in advancing Rejetta medicine for years. I've
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seen first hand on countless patients in our own clinics,
in our family of clinics, the results of regenda therapies
that involve safe and effective methods that utilize your body's
own healing abilities, like the growth factors in our own
blood or by the use of stem cells. But the
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questions come up, and they come often, well what are
stem cells, where do they come from, and how do
they help me? Well, today I want to focus on
just that and show you how your stem cells help
with muscular skeletal pain. And your stem cells it's your
body's built in repair kit. So picture this. You're sitting
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on the couch your binge, watching your favorite show, and
the moment you stand up, pop crack creek, your knees
sound like they're auditioning for a percussion band. And if
you're laughing or maybe you're wincing right now, you're not alone.
By the time we hit thirty, our joints start throwing
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tantrums like top toddlers that we deny candy the muscular
skeletal pain isn't just a nuisance, it's a thief. It
steals that morning jog, your golf swing, even your ability
to pick up your grandkid without groaning like a rusty gait.
And the usual fixes or painkillers that turn your liver
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into a science experiment, those steroid shots that wear off
faster than a New Year's resolution, or surgery that leaves
you couch bound for months. But what if I told
you your body already has that built in repair crew.
I want you to meet stem cells, the tiny, hard
working construction workers of your body. They're the reason you
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might go from I can't bend down to tie my
shoes too, I just signed up for a salsa dancing class.
So let's dive in with no no jargon, just that
real talk about how Regenda medicine can put plant pain
in its place. So your muscular skeletal system, it's like
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the frame of a house. It's got the bones, the muscles,
the tendons, the ligaments in joints. They all need to
work together to keep you moving. But life in gravity
loves to throw wrenches into the works. Here, cartilage starts
to wear down the tendons, get cranky like rotator cuff.
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I'm looking at you. In the ligaments, they start to
throw in the towel after one wrong move. Think about
achilles injuries for that. They're very painful. So the traditional
fixes they're like slapping duct tape on a leaky pipe.
But stem cells they're the plumbers who actually fix the leak.
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Stem cells are like Swiss army knives. They can turn
into whatever your body needs. For muscles and joint repair,
doctors typically use two types, one being mesenchymal stem cells.
These are the ones that are found in bone marrow,
in fat, and yes, that belly fat is actually good
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for something. You could actually harvest those stem cells from there.
These stem cells, they're the ultimate multitaskers. They reduce inflammation
and they start to build new tissue. And then we
also got these stem cells called pernatal stem cells. These
come from the umbilical cord blood through healthy berths. And
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this is an ethically, this is one of those things
that for the last twenty years, all births they ask
you do you want to bank your cord blood? And
many times if you say yes, so that's got your
name on it, that cord blood. But if you don't.
It's still donated core blood where they're able to use
those stem cells for many things, including in this osteothritis
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type of pain, or or other ways. It's a it's
actually very it's very well well done in this and
it helps many many people through these through these healthy berths.
But these are packed with those growth factors. They're they're
like those expresso shots for your cells. They speed up
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healing throughout your whole body. I want to give you
example here. Let me tell you about a patient named Bob.
Not doctor Bob, although he's a big fan of this stuff,
but Bob. He's a fifty five year old. He's a
weekend warrior whose knees sounded like a gravel driveway. And
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this is how stem cells turned his life around. So
we took some of these stem cells from his hip
bone marrow, which is minimally evasive and it has no
big scars like a surgery, and little to no downtime,
and then we spun those in a centrifuge to concentrate
the good stuff in there, the growth factors, the stem cells,
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and then we injected him in his knee and the
result the stem cells went full HGTV on his joints.
They formed new cartilage, the inflammation dropped, and Bob went
from avoiding hikes to leading them. So this isn't sci
fi anymore. It's happening right now for conditions like osti arthritis.
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That's the number one joint wreckor, and it meets its
match here with these stem cells. These stem cells rebuild
cartilage naturally, so you're not just masking that pain, you're
fixing the problem. And studies are showing that patients report
less stiffness and more mobility in just weeks. It also
helps with rotator cuff tears. So there's no more of
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this just live with it nonsense. These stem cell injections,
they can help regenerate tendon tissue, They dodge risky surgeries
with iffy to little success rates. And then also we're
gonna talk more today about chronic back pain, those bulging
disc The stem cells reduce that nerve compression and inflammation.
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There some clinics, like the ones that I've taught, to
use these therapies. They use treatments to even mix the
stem cells with platelet rich plasma the PRP to turbo
charge results. So we're gonna talk about chronic back pain
and even some failed back surgeries. After we come back
with our special guests, he's gonna highlight some very affordable
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treatment options for you. So when we come back, we're
gonna listen. We're gonna have Grant Townsend with Nuvasel join us.
So if you're aiding questions about this, call us at
eight hundred six zero six eight eight two to two.
That's eight hundred and six zero six eight eight two
to two. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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If you are retired to chronic pain, stiff joints are
endless recovery from surgeries and medications. What if you could
heal naturally without risky procedures or breaking the bank. I'm
doctor Adam Brockman, and Nuvasel is changing the game. This
at home topical cream harnesses the power of stem cells
to target joints, muscles, and cartilage right where it hurts.
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No surgeries, no side effects, just science based regeneration delivered
deep into your tissues. Nouvacel offers the same proven technology
as costly injectables for a fraction of the price, and
for a limited time, get twenty percent off exclusively through
myself and Doctor Bob, but hurry for this offer. Call
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Call eight hundred six zero six eight eight two to
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Speaker 4 (11:59):
Thatchtch, Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I'm doctor Adam Brockman, and you're listening to the Doctor
Bob Martin Show, where we're all about smarter living and
thriving naturally and teaching you to become your own best doctor.
Most of the time. Remember if you've got questions about
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Bob and I are standing by to help you unlock
your best self. That's eight hundred six zero six eight
eight two two. All right, let's get back into it today,
I said in the first segment, our special guest is
here to talk about the proven potential of stem cell
therapy and an affordable at home topical cream. It's a
great new breakthrough that is getting not only great results,
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and I know this because I've seen it firsthand on
my own patients, on my son's football injury and on
my own planner fasci itis, but it's also affordable at home. So, folks,
we're talking about with muscular skeletal pain, it doesn't have
to be a life sentence. And thanks to Regenda Medicine,
we're rewriting the rules of aging and injury recovery. And
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while we're still in those early days, one thing's clear.
Your body holds the keys to healing itself better than
any pill or scalpel ever could, So keep asking those questions.
The future of pain free living is here, and let's
talk about it with our special guest. Let's give a
warm welcome to a man who's turned pain into purpose
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and those setbacks into solutions. Grand Townsend isn't just another expert.
He's lived through athletic injuries and came out with a
game changing solution. This former Division I basketball star saw
his career come to an end after multiple surgeries, endless
rehab in that soul crushing moment when his doctor said,
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you'll just have to live with the pain. But here's
where Grant rewrote the playbook. When traditional medicine failed him,
he discovered that stem cell therapy didn't just manage his
degerative dis disease, it gave him his life back. Combining
his elite athletic mindset with an engineering background, he did
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what true champions do, and that's he created a better way.
That's why he founded Nuvacell Biologics, and that's to deliver
cutting edge regeta medicine without the outrageous price tags or
the insurance nightmares. So today, this modern day medical innovator,
he's going to join us to share just how stem
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cells helped him dunk on chronic pain when nothing else worked.
In the science behind affordable, accessible regeneration, also why your
body might already hold that key to healing that you've
been searching for. Welcome Grant to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
How are you today, Grant.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Hey, doctor Brockman, I'm doing very very well. That's quite
the introduction there. I don't I don't know if I'm
if I'm worthy of that. That good of an introduction,
but definitely happy to be here, and then happy to
be on the show.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, I wish I had your basketball skills, that's for sure.
But we've been talking, Grant, I know when we have conversation,
we've been talking about some of the back surgeries that
you had. In traditional back surgeries, they can fail due
to the complications like that nerve damage to you know,
scar tissue build up, the and then also you got
those those segments the vertebra above and below that they
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start to have their own disease, especially after like a
spinal fusion. And then you got hardware failure, rejection, we
got surgical error. The list goes on and on. Doctor
Bob and I highlighted not too long ago with the
hul Cogan case, we are actually the first first to
bring up the concerns about his next surgery, and we're
always about looking for better options. We got so much
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feedback on this, I wanted to have you back on
the show to talk about why traditional back surgeries fail
and what we can do about that. But I want
you to go ahead and give our listeners some of
your feedback. Because you've had a couple of back surgeries.
Maybe you can say exactly what that was and how
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how you've came about to try to get some pain
relief there when when surgery was a didn't really work
for you.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Yeah, definitely. So you know, as you know, Doctor Brockman,
this is this is a subject I'm very very passionate
about personally. When I heard the segment on Hulk Holgan,
my blood was pumping there because I think this is
such a big issue in our country right now, and
it seems to be you know, swept under the rug.
But you know, starting with my experience, as you mentioned,
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I played basketball my whole entire life, being you know,
taller naturally. You know, my family, we have a lot
of back issues. Right So, right when I was seventeen
years old, I was diagnosed with with two herniated disc
in my lower lumbar, you know, which is a pretty
severe diagnosis for someone who's seventeen years old. You know.
I fought through it as much as I could, but
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the debilitating pain just wouldn't go away. I mean it
was it was so bad I couldn't sleep at night
and I was in so much pain, you know, as
a young teenager. So I ended up having a what
they call microskeptomy back sturgery age nineteen. That's when they
go in and basically clipped to the bulging piece of
the disc off since that bulging pieces of what's compressing
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on the nerve. And you know, pretty much after that surgery,
I had some you know relief called a week's after,
but you know, call it a month or two after.
I mean, my pinon went back to exactly how it was,
and you know, I classified it as a as a
complete failure. And you know, it wasn't really until I
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started diving into some of the other rehab modelities out there.
I'm really focusing on my muscle skeletal alignment, working with chiropractors,
working with physical therapists. You know that I was able
to start getting better. And then once I got exposed
to to stem cell therapy and was able to actually
regenerate the disc. But that's what that's what the game
changer for me was, and I was actually able to
get out of constant pain. But you know the reason
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I'm so passionate about this area and why you know,
I founded Nuvasel and I'm so passionate about our mission
at Uvasau is you know, me as a young nineteen
year old trying to figure out how can I just
sleep through the night. None of those other modalities weever
recommended to me, right, I mean, you know, my surgeon
at the time, you know, he wasn't pressuring me into surgery,
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but he didn't offer me any alternative means. And my
physical therapists ever didn't offer me alternative means. And you know,
I just think back, if I could have avoided that,
you know, surgery, how much pain and how much lack
of sleep and just you know, misery I could have avoided, right.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, And you know, I know I discussed this on
the previous segment with about talking about the hull coding case.
But failed back surgery is the only diagnosis, the only
surgery that has a diagnosis of a failed surgery. So
this is an ongoing issue for many patients. And the
statistics out there, you know, it says forty to fifty
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percent of these surgeries fail, but I see it in
practice much higher than that, maybe even seventy or eighty percent.
Have these debilitating effects of this the downsides of these
major invasive spinal surgeries, and beyond that risk of the
failure spine surgeries, they come with significant downsides like the
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downtime for recovery, the high infection rates, the potential surgery
complications like blood clots or the anesthesia reactions. It goes
on the cost of it, the huge cost of it.
Some of these surgeries are one hundred thousand dollars or more.
And then you have that risk of the painkiller, the
opiated dependency after surgery for the pain management. Do you
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see these as the major down sides with these invasive surgeries?
And what I'm just looking for answers how we can
do this. I know the answers, but I want to
hear it from you too as well as Grant.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, no, definitely, I mean you you outlined it there, right,
the infection risk, the risk of nicking a nerve and
the surgery of nerve damage or even hardware failure, and
the amounner of recovery after anesthesia. All that those are
the major risk that the other big one is. I mean,
we've all seen what the opoid crisis has done to
our country, and it's I mean, it's a crisis rate.
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And and you know, opioid addiction after invasive surgeries like
that are extremely common. I've experienced it with family members, right,
It's it's it's no joke, and so there's there's so
many risk factors in there, and when you start to
add up you you begin to think, why why does
this you know, why is this even recommended? Why why
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would someone go straight into back sturgery before trying you know,
non evasive means like chiropractic adjustments or spinal decompression, laser therapy,
shock wave, you know, physical therapy, and then now you
know regenitive medicine. Right there just seems like so many
better options to approach it first, right.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
H Yeah, you made a lot of good points there
with with chiropractic, spinal decompression, uh, physical therapy, acupunct for
the list goes on. I want to get that more
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of the way. We've been talking with Grant Townsend of
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Nuvasel Biologics, and Grant we've been talking about some of
the non invasive treatments like chiropractic care, smile de compression,
and physical therapy to avoid some of those invasive spine surgeries.
Can you talk a little bit more about why we
should try to avoid those spine surgeries and how these treatments,
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these other treatments may be a good benefit for listeners.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah, so there's a you know, there's a couple stats
I always like to refer to, especially when we talk
about back surgery. So there's actually an article that the
Journal of American Medical Associations posted this year saying that
the US waste over ten billion dollars per year on
unnecessary spinal surgeries. That's ten billion with a B. I mean,
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that number is staggering. I think you mentioned this earlier, right,
but failed back surgery is the only failed surgery that
has its own diagnosis code failed back surgery syndrome. Just,
you know, the moment to think about how absurd that is, right,
and then when you start to really look at these stats,
I mean, it just it becomes mind boggling for me personally.
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I know it does for a lot of others. But
I've got a direct quote here from an article I
was reading this past weekend. Researchers viewed records from one
four hundred and fifty patients in the Ohio Bureau of
Workers' Compensation database who had diagnosis of dis degeneration, discardation,
or ridiculopathy. And nerve condition that causes tingling and weakness
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in the libs. Half of the patients had surgery to
fuse two of the more vertebrae and hope securry in
the pain. The other half had no surgery, even though
they had comparable diagnosis. After two years, only twenty six
percent of those who had surgery had actually returned to work.
That translates to a resounding seventy four percent. That's a
failure y after surgery. This article also reveals that workers
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have a two hundred and fifty seven percent better chance
of returning to work if they avoid surgery in the
first place. That's because the sixty seven percent of patients
who had the same exact diagnosis but didn't get the
surgery did not return to work. I mean, when you
really think about those numbers, it's it's it's it's really
mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, And that's the question is why aren't we using
less invasive treatments? First? It just seems like a no
brainer to me. And we're talking about less invasive. We're
talking you know, the chiropractic care, the physical therapy, acupuncture,
shockwave treatment, there's so many other one spinal dey compression.
There's so many of them out there to try before this.
And then we always get the question when we talk
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about regina medicine, because that's what I've specialized that in
ten plus years now. The question is is the affordability option?
And then you come with this the nuvacell biologics, the
topical stem cell cream and grant exactly how does that
help with the say like disc damage, the disk degeneration
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and uh, and talk a little bit more about how
affordable it is to compared to other regenda medicine options,
which which are all great. That's the first line of
defense should definitely be that before back surgery.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Definitely definitely and and before I you know, step into
that just the you know, the backup for for a second.
We mentioned you know, different non invasive alternatives before you know,
reverting to back surgery, right, and you know, all these
modalities are are great for for different call it healing
measures within the body, right, whether it's inflammation modulation, it's
realignment of the spine, it's you know, helping stimulate uh
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celler at activity. Uh, these these are all it all
works together, right, But when you know, when you really
look at and this is my personal experience too. When
you really look at degenerative disc cases, right, that's the
that's the collapse of the disc, whether that's from you know,
uh degeneration over time or her neated disk where you
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lost a fluid and the disc and your disk are
not collapsing and compressing on the nerve. Is you need
to regenerate that disk to truly heal and and see
pain reduction, right, And and to do that, you know,
I think you mentioned this earlier. It's it's our body
naturally has the innate ability to regenerate itself, and it's
really supporting that supporting that ability. So that's what's so
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exciting about regenerative medicine, right, is by taking stem cell technology, uh,
which is you know, essentially using cell to cell communication
to to uh enable your body to the cells in
your body to essentially wake up at us in essence
to start regenerating again. That's that's how you can see
true lasting results. And you know what we've done with
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nuba cl is. Traditionally, those regenda, the medicine and stem
cells all offer through injections, which you know can be
costly and still an invasive procedure rate is formulated that
into a topical cream, buying capting those stem cell components,
particularly the axi zones that I know you've heard me
talk about on the show, encapsulate those in loop nano
particles to stabilize them, and then formulate it into a
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transdermal cream where you're getting the same you know, regenerative
cell to cell signaling benefits, but in a topical cream
that's non invasive, that's more cost effective typically you know,
eighty to ninety percent cheaper than injectibles. You know, you
don't you're you're not having to go into that invasive procedure.
Even with the injectibles, you still have risk of infection,
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you still have to have downtime, and obviously with a
topical cream there's none of that.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, in those those current non invasive modalities, you know
we're talking about the chiropractic, the smile decompression, the physical therapy,
they all focus on, say the root cause and some
symptom management there, but they lack that ability to regenerate
those damaged disc themselves. So we need that option to
heal it. And I say the combination of chiropractic and
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in also you know, neuva cell, it works great. The
regenda medicine option works great. There for that true healing
and those long term resolution that chronic back pain that's
caused by degenerative dis disease, we need these therapies that
promote the root cause, taking care of the symptoms, the
root cause, and also the biological regeneration. So how does
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neuva cell fit in with that dis regeneration?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah? So, I you know, personally you said using these
you know, using these different monalities together. Personally, that's that's
what I do, right I. I, you know, I still
use nuva cell in combination with chiropractic adjustments, with final
decompression red light therapy because one one way to think
of it, right is is typically we get into a
degenerative state or a chronic have a chronic degenerative case
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in our knees or backs because something is inherently wrong
with either the way you know, what we're doing in
our environment or the way we're walking, or how we
treat ourselves. Right, So you know, first you got to
look at you know, fixing that, right, and that's where
you know, a lot of those medalities can help with that.
And then two to your point is supporting the regeneration
through you know, a product like Nuvasel. It's a it's
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a combination effort. You can't just look at one or
the other. You have to look at you know, the
body holistically and and how you got to this that
you're currently in and how you can you fix the
reason you got there and then to fix the damage
that it coused.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, And uh we're talking with Grant Townsend
of Nuva cell Biologics. If you want more information on
Nuva cell Biologics, Uh, go head over to their website.
It's Nuva cell Biologics dot com. That's spelled and you
v O C E L L B I O L
O g I c S dot com. All Right, we'll
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be back back with Grant after this break. You're listening
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Speaker 3 (34:27):
Welcome back, Doctor Adam Brockman here as we return to
the Doctor Bob Martin Show, America's number one health talk
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zero six eight eight two two. All right, let's get
back in today's conversation with Grant Townsend, the CEO of
Nuvasel Biologics, a great topical stem cell cream, and Grant,
I want you to tell our listeners, uh, why patients
or the listeners should choose Nouvasel over surgery.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah. So, there's there's many, many reasons that I could
list off. But you know, earlier in this uh, in
this segment here, we talked about you know, the downside
of of surgery, right, infection, UH, hardware failure, nerve damage,
surgical error complications, this anaesthesia, the recovery time after you're
talking months of recovery time. And then you know, obviously
(35:31):
there's there's always the risk of drug addiction coming out
of a surgery. You know, with nuvasell, UH, essentially all
of that is eliminated, right by using a topical cream.
There's it's not invasive, there's there's no risk of infection. UH,
there's no downtime, right, you can continue on it your
regular life. It's it's all it's a natural product, no drugs,
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and that no risk of drug addiction. So the you know,
the the the when you line it up, you know,
comparison to comparison, it becomes you know, pretty clear that uh,
you know, trying neuvasel first should always be a first step, right.
I mean, there's there's so many reasons to to try
non invasive UH options including nuvasl before going into a
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back surgery.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And I also want you to tell, uh, tell our
listeners how they can get Nuvasel, how they can find it,
And you're also trying to expand your provider network. So
we have coverage throughout the throughout the United States and
we get a lot of questions on this, so so
how can how can listeners find Nuvasel.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, so for for those of you who are who
haven't heard of Nouvasel before, we're we're a relatively new company,
very new technology, cutting edge hasn't really been seen in
the market before. So we've got a growing network of
providers throughout the country. But obviously we want to keep
growing that network. So you know, first if if you
want to go see your local provider and ask them
(36:53):
about neuva Cell, please do that. You can referm to
our website. They can apply for a provider account there
and sign up with us. If you can go on
our website to the find a Provider tool to see
if there is a provider in your area first obviously,
and then if not, you can go ask your provider
about Nuvassel, and then as a as a another step,
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actually have a tell Health line through the doctor Bob
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information and make a recommendation on Nuvasel. And with that,
we also we're offering a discount for the Doctor Bob
Show as well, where normally our retail price is and
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fifty dollars per kit, and we're offering discounts on that
for one thousand dollars for one kit, or if you
want to buy multiple either for you or your family
or you have a more severe case, you can do
two kits for nine hundred dollars, three kits for for
eight hundred dollars, and once again we'll be able to
ship that right to your door.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
All right. And Nuvasel is a available only through a provider,
So these are your options, you know, go to Nuvasel
Biologics dot com. You can find your provider. If you're
a provider that's looking to add Nuvassel to your practice,
go ahead to the website as well, or you can
also we can we can set you up through our
telehealth line through the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Just go
go to doctor Bob dot com and look for the
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Nuvasel logo there and that we can help you out there,
and Grant's been kind enough to give that big discount.
It's definitely a product that we should if you have
any any type of osteoarthritis type of pain, or our
tenon ligament pain, strained sprains for athletes. The list goes
on and on, but Grant, you gave me a patient testimonial,
and Phil if we can go ahead and play that.
Speaker 9 (38:42):
Hey everyone, my name is Brian Massey. I am an entrepreneur.
I own several different businesses. We're standing right now in
two Horse Distillery, our latest business venture that we're in.
Also got a grading business. But more importantly, I rode
bucking horses for years. I was a three time world
champion barbreck rider, and throughout my career I had many
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bumps and bruises. Luckily not too many bad injuries. But
what I found myself with after ten years of competing
professionally is I wound up with some back pain in
my lower back. After years of dealing with that and
going through it, I finally got an MRI several years
ago and found out that I've got a bulging disc
and I just you know, have to deal with the
(39:23):
back pain. I've got a great doctor. He said that
you don't need surgery until you have more worse days
and you have a good day. So we're putting it off.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Putting it off.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
I deal with the pain, but what I found is
it was getting worse and worse going to chipractors and
that sort of stuff. And then a friend of mine
that we know introduced me to NUBASL. So this is
a stem cell cream that you apply, and so I've
been using that for almost a month now and my
back pain is dramatically less than what it used to be.
(39:53):
You know, it's still there. I mean, I don't think
that it's going to cure a bulging disc overnight, but
I will continue to use it, and I think you
should as well, because the pain that I experience on
a daily basis is less now than what used to be,
and I think it would be a good product for you.
I'm using it on my elbow other places because you know, Rodeo,
(40:13):
my back's not the only thing that has some pain,
so you know, I'm using it in other areas. So
whether it's back pain, knee, elbow, whatever joint pain or
inflammation you may have, I would recommend that you give
nubassel a try.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
All right, there's a great testimonial grant, and we're gonna
come back with grant Townshend of Nuva Cell Biologics after this.
If you're interested in and find out more about nuvasell topical
stem cell treatment, you can go to Nuvasell Biologics dot com,
or you can go to the Doctor Bob Martin Show
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Well we've reached the end of another hour, but don't
think for one second that the conversation ends here. It's
doctor Adam Brockman and we're gonna sign off from another
episode of Doctor Bob Martin Show where we've just taken
the lid off of one of modern medicine's best kept secrets,
and that's your body isn't broken beyond repair. It's waiting
for you to unleash its full potential with stem cells.
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So let's land this plane with three lightning round takeaways.
Your stem cells are not sci fi. They're your biological inheritance,
whether it's arthritic knees, a torn rotator cuff, or chronic
back pain. Regenda medicine is rewriting the rules for healing,
and not all stem cell therapies are created equal. Do
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your homework, because this is your health and your wallet
on the line, and pain isn't your eight Those inevitable
joint replacements and lifetime prescriptions maybe not as inevitable after all.
And thanks to Grant Townsend of Neuva Cell biologics for
joining me in this discussion in giving valuable insights, Grant,
(44:15):
I want you we just got a couple of minutes left,
go ahead and summarize, and is this going to take
the place of spinal fusion eventually, the neuva cell biological topical.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Cream, you know, as much as I hope it is,
you know, I think there's always going to be a
place and a need for that, right you know, at
the at the end of the day, we're we're you know,
enabling our bodies and the ability to heal itself. But
there's always going to be circumstances that come up where
(44:44):
you know, maybe a you know, a spinal fusion is
not required. But you know, from everything I've we've talked
about today, you can tell this is you know, this
is something I'm very very passionate about. You see, once
you look at the status of spinal surgeries, it's it's abysmal, right,
and and really this is one of the founding principles
of why I started Nuvasel. It's to give people a
(45:06):
better option to heal naturally. And that's what we're about,
and that's what you know, I'm so excited to you know,
talk about it. I'm glad, you know, very thankfully you
had me on the show today, you know, to share
my story on that and hope that we can help
more people in that fashion.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah. Absolutely, and I'm very passionate about it too. I've
seen the results firsthand on thousands of patients with Regenda medicine,
and so Grant, I really appreciate you coming by and listeners.
If if you're interested in and find out more about Nuvasel,
head over to Nuvasel Biologics dot com. Grant's been kind
enough to give a discount. You can find that through
(45:42):
our telehealth option at doctor Bob dot com. You can
find a huge network that may be in your back
door and you don't even know it. So what I
encourage you to do is share this episode. Tag someone
that's been drowning in painkillers or facing surgery they fear
may not actually work for him. Be there lifeline today.
So here's my final prescription. Stop accepting good enough, demand
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healing that honors how wonderfully you were made. The future
of medicine isn't coming, It's already flowing through your veins
and through your stem cells. Until next time, keep moving,
keep learning, and never let anyone tell you chronic pain
is just part of aging. This is doctor Adam Brockman
for the Doctor Bob Martin Show, reminding you your comeback
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Listen up, because today's show is about to change how
you think about pain, relief and healing. So let's talk
about those screaming joints. We've got an entire generation that's
popping in SAIDs, you know, the advil, the leave, the aspirin,
the tilnd hall like they're candy. And then we got
surgeons that are pushing joint replacements as routine. And then
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we got those slick Instagram ads that are peddling these
miracle creams that don't do anything. They do zilch. Meanwhile,
your body's own repair system, the most advanced medical technology
on Earth. It's being ignored. So let's forget the quick
fixes that fizzle out by next week. Let's use some
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raw science today on how your stem cells can rebuild cartilage,
silence that inflammation and gets you back to doing what
you love, whether that's chasing your grandkids or deadlifting personal bests.
In this hour, we're gonna break down the shocking truth
about why cortisone shots are just a band aid and
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what actually works better. We're gonna get to real patient
stories of Regenda knees, shoulders in those spines without the
scalpels and the surgeries. Plus, I'm gonna bring in a
special guest. He's a former Division one basketball player who's
walked away from injuries and he's rebuilt his body with
(02:54):
Regenda medicine after many surgeries. Wait till you hear his
comeback story. And hey, this is your show. The phone
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six zero six eight eight two two, or visit our
website at doctor Bob dot com. All right, folks, time
to ditch the just live with it pain lie and
unlock your bodies innate power to heal. So let's go
ahead and roll. As I've discussed often on the show,
I've been involved in advancing Rejetta medicine for years. I've
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seen first hand on countless patients in our own clinics,
in our family of clinics, the results of regenda therapies
that involve safe and effective methods that utilize your body's
own healing abilities, like the growth factors in our own
blood or by the use of stem cells. But the
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questions come up, and they come often, well what are
stem cells, where do they come from, and how do
they help me? Well, today I want to focus on
just that and show you how your stem cells help
with muscular skeletal pain. And your stem cells it's your
body's built in repair kit. So picture this. You're sitting
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on the couch your binge, watching your favorite show, and
the moment you stand up, pop crack creek, your knees
sound like they're auditioning for a percussion band. And if
you're laughing or maybe you're wincing right now, you're not alone.
By the time we hit thirty, our joints start throwing
(05:08):
tantrums like top toddlers that we deny candy the muscular
skeletal pain isn't just a nuisance, it's a thief. It
steals that morning jog, your golf swing, even your ability
to pick up your grandkid without groaning like a rusty gait.
And the usual fixes or painkillers that turn your liver
(05:30):
into a science experiment, those steroid shots that wear off
faster than a New Year's resolution, or surgery that leaves
you couch bound for months. But what if I told
you your body already has that built in repair crew.
I want you to meet stem cells, the tiny, hard
working construction workers of your body. They're the reason you
(05:54):
might go from I can't bend down to tie my
shoes too, I just signed up for a salsa dancing class.
So let's dive in with no no jargon, just that
real talk about how Regenda medicine can put plant pain
in its place. So your muscular skeletal system, it's like
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the frame of a house. It's got the bones, the muscles,
the tendons, the ligaments in joints. They all need to
work together to keep you moving. But life in gravity
loves to throw wrenches into the works. Here, cartilage starts
to wear down the tendons, get cranky like rotator cuff.
(06:38):
I'm looking at you. In the ligaments, they start to
throw in the towel after one wrong move. Think about
achilles injuries for that. They're very painful. So the traditional
fixes they're like slapping duct tape on a leaky pipe.
But stem cells they're the plumbers who actually fix the leak.
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Stem cells are like Swiss army knives. They can turn
into whatever your body needs. For muscles and joint repair,
doctors typically use two types, one being mesenchymal stem cells.
These are the ones that are found in bone marrow,
in fat, and yes, that belly fat is actually good
(07:21):
for something. You could actually harvest those stem cells from there.
These stem cells, they're the ultimate multitaskers. They reduce inflammation
and they start to build new tissue. And then we
also got these stem cells called pernatal stem cells. These
come from the umbilical cord blood through healthy berths. And
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this is an ethically, this is one of those things
that for the last twenty years, all births they ask
you do you want to bank your cord blood? And
many times if you say yes, so that's got your
name on it, that cord blood. But if you don't.
It's still donated core blood where they're able to use
those stem cells for many things, including in this osteothritis
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type of pain, or or other ways. It's a it's
actually very it's very well well done in this and
it helps many many people through these through these healthy berths.
But these are packed with those growth factors. They're they're
like those expresso shots for your cells. They speed up
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healing throughout your whole body. I want to give you
example here. Let me tell you about a patient named Bob.
Not doctor Bob, although he's a big fan of this stuff,
but Bob. He's a fifty five year old. He's a
weekend warrior whose knees sounded like a gravel driveway. And
(08:47):
this is how stem cells turned his life around. So
we took some of these stem cells from his hip
bone marrow, which is minimally evasive and it has no
big scars like a surgery, and little to no downtime,
and then we spun those in a centrifuge to concentrate
the good stuff in there, the growth factors, the stem cells,
(09:07):
and then we injected him in his knee and the
result the stem cells went full HGTV on his joints.
They formed new cartilage, the inflammation dropped, and Bob went
from avoiding hikes to leading them. So this isn't sci
fi anymore. It's happening right now for conditions like osti arthritis.
(09:32):
That's the number one joint wreckor, and it meets its
match here with these stem cells. These stem cells rebuild
cartilage naturally, so you're not just masking that pain, you're
fixing the problem. And studies are showing that patients report
less stiffness and more mobility in just weeks. It also
helps with rotator cuff tears. So there's no more of
(09:55):
this just live with it nonsense. These stem cell injections,
they can help regenerate tendon tissue, They dodge risky surgeries
with iffy to little success rates. And then also we're
gonna talk more today about chronic back pain, those bulging
disc The stem cells reduce that nerve compression and inflammation.
(10:15):
There some clinics, like the ones that I've taught, to
use these therapies. They use treatments to even mix the
stem cells with platelet rich plasma the PRP to turbo
charge results. So we're gonna talk about chronic back pain
and even some failed back surgeries. After we come back
with our special guests, he's gonna highlight some very affordable
(10:37):
treatment options for you. So when we come back, we're
gonna listen. We're gonna have Grant Townsend with Nuvasel join us.
So if you're aiding questions about this, call us at
eight hundred six zero six eight eight two to two.
That's eight hundred and six zero six eight eight two
to two. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
(11:00):
If you are retired to chronic pain, stiff joints are
endless recovery from surgeries and medications. What if you could
heal naturally without risky procedures or breaking the bank. I'm
doctor Adam Brockman, and Nuvasel is changing the game. This
at home topical cream harnesses the power of stem cells
to target joints, muscles, and cartilage right where it hurts.
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No surgeries, no side effects, just science based regeneration delivered
deep into your tissues. Nouvacel offers the same proven technology
as costly injectables for a fraction of the price, and
for a limited time, get twenty percent off exclusively through
myself and Doctor Bob, but hurry for this offer. Call
our hotline eight hundred sixt zero six eight eight two
(11:42):
to two now to be connected with a provider, or
visit Nuvasel Biologics dot com or doctor Bob dot com.
Nuvasel is prescription only. Don't just manage pain, reverse it.
Call eight hundred six zero six eight eight two to
two and ask for Nouvacel today.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Thatchtch, Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I'm doctor Adam Brockman, and you're listening to the Doctor
Bob Martin Show, where we're all about smarter living and
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Most of the time. Remember if you've got questions about
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(12:48):
Bob and I are standing by to help you unlock
your best self. That's eight hundred six zero six eight
eight two two. All right, let's get back into it today,
I said in the first segment, our special guest is
here to talk about the proven potential of stem cell
therapy and an affordable at home topical cream. It's a
great new breakthrough that is getting not only great results,
(13:12):
and I know this because I've seen it firsthand on
my own patients, on my son's football injury and on
my own planner fasci itis, but it's also affordable at home. So, folks,
we're talking about with muscular skeletal pain, it doesn't have
to be a life sentence. And thanks to Regenda Medicine,
we're rewriting the rules of aging and injury recovery. And
(13:35):
while we're still in those early days, one thing's clear.
Your body holds the keys to healing itself better than
any pill or scalpel ever could, So keep asking those questions.
The future of pain free living is here, and let's
talk about it with our special guest. Let's give a
warm welcome to a man who's turned pain into purpose
(13:55):
and those setbacks into solutions. Grand Townsend isn't just another expert.
He's lived through athletic injuries and came out with a
game changing solution. This former Division I basketball star saw
his career come to an end after multiple surgeries, endless
rehab in that soul crushing moment when his doctor said,
(14:15):
you'll just have to live with the pain. But here's
where Grant rewrote the playbook. When traditional medicine failed him,
he discovered that stem cell therapy didn't just manage his
degerative dis disease, it gave him his life back. Combining
his elite athletic mindset with an engineering background, he did
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what true champions do, and that's he created a better way.
That's why he founded Nuvacell Biologics, and that's to deliver
cutting edge regeta medicine without the outrageous price tags or
the insurance nightmares. So today, this modern day medical innovator,
he's going to join us to share just how stem
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cells helped him dunk on chronic pain when nothing else worked.
In the science behind affordable, accessible regeneration, also why your
body might already hold that key to healing that you've
been searching for. Welcome Grant to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
How are you today, Grant.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Hey, doctor Brockman, I'm doing very very well. That's quite
the introduction there. I don't I don't know if I'm
if I'm worthy of that. That good of an introduction,
but definitely happy to be here, and then happy to
be on the show.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, I wish I had your basketball skills, that's for sure.
But we've been talking, Grant, I know when we have conversation,
we've been talking about some of the back surgeries that
you had. In traditional back surgeries, they can fail due
to the complications like that nerve damage to you know,
scar tissue build up, the and then also you got
those those segments the vertebra above and below that they
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start to have their own disease, especially after like a
spinal fusion. And then you got hardware failure, rejection, we
got surgical error. The list goes on and on. Doctor
Bob and I highlighted not too long ago with the
hul Cogan case, we are actually the first first to
bring up the concerns about his next surgery, and we're
always about looking for better options. We got so much
(16:13):
feedback on this, I wanted to have you back on
the show to talk about why traditional back surgeries fail
and what we can do about that. But I want
you to go ahead and give our listeners some of
your feedback. Because you've had a couple of back surgeries.
Maybe you can say exactly what that was and how
(16:33):
how you've came about to try to get some pain
relief there when when surgery was a didn't really work
for you.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Yeah, definitely. So you know, as you know, Doctor Brockman,
this is this is a subject I'm very very passionate
about personally. When I heard the segment on Hulk Holgan,
my blood was pumping there because I think this is
such a big issue in our country right now, and
it seems to be you know, swept under the rug.
But you know, starting with my experience, as you mentioned,
(17:02):
I played basketball my whole entire life, being you know,
taller naturally. You know, my family, we have a lot
of back issues. Right So, right when I was seventeen
years old, I was diagnosed with with two herniated disc
in my lower lumbar, you know, which is a pretty
severe diagnosis for someone who's seventeen years old. You know.
I fought through it as much as I could, but
(17:25):
the debilitating pain just wouldn't go away. I mean it
was it was so bad I couldn't sleep at night
and I was in so much pain, you know, as
a young teenager. So I ended up having a what
they call microskeptomy back sturgery age nineteen. That's when they
go in and basically clipped to the bulging piece of
the disc off since that bulging pieces of what's compressing
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on the nerve. And you know, pretty much after that surgery,
I had some you know relief called a week's after,
but you know, call it a month or two after.
I mean, my pinon went back to exactly how it was,
and you know, I classified it as a as a
complete failure. And you know, it wasn't really until I
(18:09):
started diving into some of the other rehab modelities out there.
I'm really focusing on my muscle skeletal alignment, working with chiropractors,
working with physical therapists. You know that I was able
to start getting better. And then once I got exposed
to to stem cell therapy and was able to actually
regenerate the disc. But that's what that's what the game
changer for me was, and I was actually able to
get out of constant pain. But you know the reason
(18:32):
I'm so passionate about this area and why you know,
I founded Nuvasel and I'm so passionate about our mission
at Uvasau is you know, me as a young nineteen
year old trying to figure out how can I just
sleep through the night. None of those other modalities weever
recommended to me, right, I mean, you know, my surgeon
at the time, you know, he wasn't pressuring me into surgery,
(18:54):
but he didn't offer me any alternative means. And my
physical therapists ever didn't offer me alternative means. And you know,
I just think back, if I could have avoided that,
you know, surgery, how much pain and how much lack
of sleep and just you know, misery I could have avoided, right.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, And you know, I know I discussed this on
the previous segment with about talking about the hull coding case.
But failed back surgery is the only diagnosis, the only
surgery that has a diagnosis of a failed surgery. So
this is an ongoing issue for many patients. And the
statistics out there, you know, it says forty to fifty
(19:33):
percent of these surgeries fail, but I see it in
practice much higher than that, maybe even seventy or eighty percent.
Have these debilitating effects of this the downsides of these
major invasive spinal surgeries, and beyond that risk of the
failure spine surgeries, they come with significant downsides like the
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downtime for recovery, the high infection rates, the potential surgery
complications like blood clots or the anesthesia reactions. It goes
on the cost of it, the huge cost of it.
Some of these surgeries are one hundred thousand dollars or more.
And then you have that risk of the painkiller, the
opiated dependency after surgery for the pain management. Do you
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see these as the major down sides with these invasive surgeries?
And what I'm just looking for answers how we can
do this. I know the answers, but I want to
hear it from you too as well as Grant.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, no, definitely, I mean you you outlined it there, right,
the infection risk, the risk of nicking a nerve and
the surgery of nerve damage or even hardware failure, and
the amounner of recovery after anesthesia. All that those are
the major risk that the other big one is. I mean,
we've all seen what the opoid crisis has done to
our country, and it's I mean, it's a crisis rate.
(20:50):
And and you know, opioid addiction after invasive surgeries like
that are extremely common. I've experienced it with family members, right,
It's it's it's no joke, and so there's there's so
many risk factors in there, and when you start to
add up you you begin to think, why why does
this you know, why is this even recommended? Why why
(21:10):
would someone go straight into back sturgery before trying you know,
non evasive means like chiropractic adjustments or spinal decompression, laser therapy,
shock wave, you know, physical therapy, and then now you
know regenitive medicine. Right there just seems like so many
better options to approach it first, right.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
H Yeah, you made a lot of good points there
with with chiropractic, spinal decompression, uh, physical therapy, acupunct for
the list goes on. I want to get that more
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of the way. We've been talking with Grant Townsend of
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Nuvasel Biologics, and Grant we've been talking about some of
the non invasive treatments like chiropractic care, smile de compression,
and physical therapy to avoid some of those invasive spine surgeries.
Can you talk a little bit more about why we
should try to avoid those spine surgeries and how these treatments,
(23:32):
these other treatments may be a good benefit for listeners.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah, so there's a you know, there's a couple stats
I always like to refer to, especially when we talk
about back surgery. So there's actually an article that the
Journal of American Medical Associations posted this year saying that
the US waste over ten billion dollars per year on
unnecessary spinal surgeries. That's ten billion with a B. I mean,
(23:57):
that number is staggering. I think you mentioned this earlier, right,
but failed back surgery is the only failed surgery that
has its own diagnosis code failed back surgery syndrome. Just,
you know, the moment to think about how absurd that is, right,
and then when you start to really look at these stats,
I mean, it just it becomes mind boggling for me personally.
(24:20):
I know it does for a lot of others. But
I've got a direct quote here from an article I
was reading this past weekend. Researchers viewed records from one
four hundred and fifty patients in the Ohio Bureau of
Workers' Compensation database who had diagnosis of dis degeneration, discardation,
or ridiculopathy. And nerve condition that causes tingling and weakness
(24:40):
in the libs. Half of the patients had surgery to
fuse two of the more vertebrae and hope securry in
the pain. The other half had no surgery, even though
they had comparable diagnosis. After two years, only twenty six
percent of those who had surgery had actually returned to work.
That translates to a resounding seventy four percent. That's a
failure y after surgery. This article also reveals that workers
(25:04):
have a two hundred and fifty seven percent better chance
of returning to work if they avoid surgery in the
first place. That's because the sixty seven percent of patients
who had the same exact diagnosis but didn't get the
surgery did not return to work. I mean, when you
really think about those numbers, it's it's it's it's really
mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, And that's the question is why aren't we using
less invasive treatments? First? It just seems like a no
brainer to me. And we're talking about less invasive. We're
talking you know, the chiropractic care, the physical therapy, acupuncture,
shockwave treatment, there's so many other one spinal dey compression.
There's so many of them out there to try before this.
And then we always get the question when we talk
(25:45):
about regina medicine, because that's what I've specialized that in
ten plus years now. The question is is the affordability option?
And then you come with this the nuvacell biologics, the
topical stem cell cream and grant exactly how does that
help with the say like disc damage, the disk degeneration
(26:06):
and uh, and talk a little bit more about how
affordable it is to compared to other regenda medicine options,
which which are all great. That's the first line of
defense should definitely be that before back surgery.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Definitely definitely and and before I you know, step into
that just the you know, the backup for for a second.
We mentioned you know, different non invasive alternatives before you know,
reverting to back surgery, right, and you know, all these
modalities are are great for for different call it healing
measures within the body, right, whether it's inflammation modulation, it's
realignment of the spine, it's you know, helping stimulate uh
(26:41):
celler at activity. Uh, these these are all it all
works together, right, But when you know, when you really
look at and this is my personal experience too. When
you really look at degenerative disc cases, right, that's the
that's the collapse of the disc, whether that's from you know,
uh degeneration over time or her neated disk where you
(27:03):
lost a fluid and the disc and your disk are
not collapsing and compressing on the nerve. Is you need
to regenerate that disk to truly heal and and see
pain reduction, right, And and to do that, you know,
I think you mentioned this earlier. It's it's our body
naturally has the innate ability to regenerate itself, and it's
really supporting that supporting that ability. So that's what's so
(27:27):
exciting about regenerative medicine, right, is by taking stem cell technology, uh,
which is you know, essentially using cell to cell communication
to to uh enable your body to the cells in
your body to essentially wake up at us in essence
to start regenerating again. That's that's how you can see
true lasting results. And you know what we've done with
(27:48):
nuba cl is. Traditionally, those regenda, the medicine and stem
cells all offer through injections, which you know can be
costly and still an invasive procedure rate is formulated that
into a topical cream, buying capting those stem cell components,
particularly the axi zones that I know you've heard me
talk about on the show, encapsulate those in loop nano
particles to stabilize them, and then formulate it into a
(28:10):
transdermal cream where you're getting the same you know, regenerative
cell to cell signaling benefits, but in a topical cream
that's non invasive, that's more cost effective typically you know,
eighty to ninety percent cheaper than injectibles. You know, you
don't you're you're not having to go into that invasive procedure.
Even with the injectibles, you still have risk of infection,
(28:31):
you still have to have downtime, and obviously with a
topical cream there's none of that.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, in those those current non invasive modalities, you know
we're talking about the chiropractic, the smile decompression, the physical therapy,
they all focus on, say the root cause and some
symptom management there, but they lack that ability to regenerate
those damaged disc themselves. So we need that option to
heal it. And I say the combination of chiropractic and
(28:59):
in also you know, neuva cell, it works great. The
regenda medicine option works great. There for that true healing
and those long term resolution that chronic back pain that's
caused by degenerative dis disease, we need these therapies that
promote the root cause, taking care of the symptoms, the
root cause, and also the biological regeneration. So how does
(29:20):
neuva cell fit in with that dis regeneration?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah? So, I you know, personally you said using these
you know, using these different monalities together. Personally, that's that's
what I do, right I. I, you know, I still
use nuva cell in combination with chiropractic adjustments, with final
decompression red light therapy because one one way to think
of it, right is is typically we get into a
degenerative state or a chronic have a chronic degenerative case
(29:49):
in our knees or backs because something is inherently wrong
with either the way you know, what we're doing in
our environment or the way we're walking, or how we
treat ourselves. Right, So you know, first you got to
look at you know, fixing that, right, and that's where
you know, a lot of those medalities can help with that.
And then two to your point is supporting the regeneration
through you know, a product like Nuvasel. It's a it's
(30:11):
a combination effort. You can't just look at one or
the other. You have to look at you know, the
body holistically and and how you got to this that
you're currently in and how you can you fix the
reason you got there and then to fix the damage
that it coused.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, And uh we're talking with Grant Townsend
of Nuva cell Biologics. If you want more information on
Nuva cell Biologics, Uh, go head over to their website.
It's Nuva cell Biologics dot com. That's spelled and you
v O C E L L B I O L
O g I c S dot com. All Right, we'll
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zero six eight eight two two. All right, let's get
back in today's conversation with Grant Townsend, the CEO of
Nuvasel Biologics, a great topical stem cell cream, and Grant,
I want you to tell our listeners, uh, why patients
or the listeners should choose Nouvasel over surgery.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah. So, there's there's many, many reasons that I could
list off. But you know, earlier in this uh, in
this segment here, we talked about you know, the downside
of of surgery, right, infection, UH, hardware failure, nerve damage,
surgical error complications, this anaesthesia, the recovery time after you're
talking months of recovery time. And then you know, obviously
(35:31):
there's there's always the risk of drug addiction coming out
of a surgery. You know, with nuvasell, UH, essentially all
of that is eliminated, right by using a topical cream.
There's it's not invasive, there's there's no risk of infection. UH,
there's no downtime, right, you can continue on it your
regular life. It's it's all it's a natural product, no drugs,
(35:52):
and that no risk of drug addiction. So the you know,
the the the when you line it up, you know,
comparison to comparison, it becomes you know, pretty clear that uh,
you know, trying neuvasel first should always be a first step, right.
I mean, there's there's so many reasons to to try
non invasive UH options including nuvasl before going into a
(36:14):
back surgery.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And I also want you to tell, uh, tell our
listeners how they can get Nuvasel, how they can find it,
And you're also trying to expand your provider network. So
we have coverage throughout the throughout the United States and
we get a lot of questions on this, so so
how can how can listeners find Nuvasel.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, so for for those of you who are who
haven't heard of Nouvasel before, we're we're a relatively new company,
very new technology, cutting edge hasn't really been seen in
the market before. So we've got a growing network of
providers throughout the country. But obviously we want to keep
growing that network. So you know, first if if you
want to go see your local provider and ask them
(36:53):
about neuva Cell, please do that. You can referm to
our website. They can apply for a provider account there
and sign up with us. If you can go on
our website to the find a Provider tool to see
if there is a provider in your area first obviously,
and then if not, you can go ask your provider
about Nuvassel, and then as a as a another step,
(37:16):
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we also we're offering a discount for the Doctor Bob
Show as well, where normally our retail price is and
(37:41):
fifty dollars per kit, and we're offering discounts on that
for one thousand dollars for one kit, or if you
want to buy multiple either for you or your family
or you have a more severe case, you can do
two kits for nine hundred dollars, three kits for for
eight hundred dollars, and once again we'll be able to
ship that right to your door.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
All right. And Nuvasel is a available only through a provider,
So these are your options, you know, go to Nuvasel
Biologics dot com. You can find your provider. If you're
a provider that's looking to add Nuvassel to your practice,
go ahead to the website as well, or you can
also we can we can set you up through our
telehealth line through the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Just go
go to doctor Bob dot com and look for the
(38:20):
Nuvasel logo there and that we can help you out there,
and Grant's been kind enough to give that big discount.
It's definitely a product that we should if you have
any any type of osteoarthritis type of pain, or our
tenon ligament pain, strained sprains for athletes. The list goes
on and on, but Grant, you gave me a patient testimonial,
and Phil if we can go ahead and play that.
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I own several different businesses. We're standing right now in
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Also got a grading business. But more importantly, I rode
bucking horses for years. I was a three time world
champion barbreck rider, and throughout my career I had many
(39:02):
bumps and bruises. Luckily not too many bad injuries. But
what I found myself with after ten years of competing
professionally is I wound up with some back pain in
my lower back. After years of dealing with that and
going through it, I finally got an MRI several years
ago and found out that I've got a bulging disc
and I just you know, have to deal with the
(39:23):
back pain. I've got a great doctor. He said that
you don't need surgery until you have more worse days
and you have a good day. So we're putting it off.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Putting it off.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
I deal with the pain, but what I found is
it was getting worse and worse going to chipractors and
that sort of stuff. And then a friend of mine
that we know introduced me to NUBASL. So this is
a stem cell cream that you apply, and so I've
been using that for almost a month now and my
back pain is dramatically less than what it used to be.
(39:53):
You know, it's still there. I mean, I don't think
that it's going to cure a bulging disc overnight, but
I will continue to use it, and I think you
should as well, because the pain that I experience on
a daily basis is less now than what used to be,
and I think it would be a good product for you.
I'm using it on my elbow other places because you know, Rodeo,
(40:13):
my back's not the only thing that has some pain,
so you know, I'm using it in other areas. So
whether it's back pain, knee, elbow, whatever joint pain or
inflammation you may have, I would recommend that you give
nubassel a try.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
All right, there's a great testimonial grant, and we're gonna
come back with grant Townshend of Nuva Cell Biologics after this.
If you're interested in and find out more about nuvasell topical
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doctor Adam Brockman and we're gonna sign off from another
episode of Doctor Bob Martin Show where we've just taken
the lid off of one of modern medicine's best kept secrets,
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Your stem cells are not sci fi. They're your biological inheritance,
whether it's arthritic knees, a torn rotator cuff, or chronic
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And thanks to Grant Townsend of Neuva Cell biologics for
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I want you we just got a couple of minutes left,
go ahead and summarize, and is this going to take
the place of spinal fusion eventually, the neuva cell biological topical.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Cream, you know, as much as I hope it is,
you know, I think there's always going to be a
place and a need for that, right you know, at
the at the end of the day, we're we're you know,
enabling our bodies and the ability to heal itself. But
there's always going to be circumstances that come up where
(44:44):
you know, maybe a you know, a spinal fusion is
not required. But you know, from everything I've we've talked
about today, you can tell this is you know, this
is something I'm very very passionate about. You see, once
you look at the status of spinal surgeries, it's it's abysmal, right,
and and really this is one of the founding principles
of why I started Nuvasel. It's to give people a
(45:06):
better option to heal naturally. And that's what we're about,
and that's what you know, I'm so excited to you know,
talk about it. I'm glad, you know, very thankfully you
had me on the show today, you know, to share
my story on that and hope that we can help
more people in that fashion.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah. Absolutely, and I'm very passionate about it too. I've
seen the results firsthand on thousands of patients with Regenda medicine,
and so Grant, I really appreciate you coming by and listeners.
If if you're interested in and find out more about Nuvasel,
head over to Nuvasel Biologics dot com. Grant's been kind
enough to give a discount. You can find that through
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our telehealth option at doctor Bob dot com. You can
find a huge network that may be in your back
door and you don't even know it. So what I
encourage you to do is share this episode. Tag someone
that's been drowning in painkillers or facing surgery they fear
may not actually work for him. Be there lifeline today.
So here's my final prescription. Stop accepting good enough, demand
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healing that honors how wonderfully you were made. The future
of medicine isn't coming, It's already flowing through your veins
and through your stem cells. Until next time, keep moving,
keep learning, and never let anyone tell you chronic pain
is just part of aging. This is doctor Adam Brockman
for the Doctor Bob Martin Show, reminding you your comeback
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