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Earnest ‘EJ’ Christian and Zack ‘The Degenerate discuss election returns in real time, NFL Week 10 Power Rankings, BEST BETS and preview Florida State vs. Clemson.

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Speaker 2 (01:07):
Perthc Podcast since once again the week ten edition of
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for Degenerate and Valius all as well. Mister Zachary was
zach what's up, buddy?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Listen more today than I do against you all year.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So well, here's the good news for you. You finally
won this week, although we weren't Imprinceville all this week
on our picks, we were horrible. I only got three
games right this week.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Wait, so can I trade this week's went against you
for I do on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I won't go go what we discussed off the air,
but yes, I would definitely do that.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, just three one, twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
That's all I need, twenty four fucking hours.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
You you had literally only four wins four. You only
hit four games. I hit three.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, I knew three of the games, and I hit
compared to you, but I couldn't remember.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I failured.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
He still smoked me because I couldn't even remember the
games I picked against you. But I can't remember big games.
H And damn, I can't believe it was four to three.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, four to three. But you got it in
the first thing in the year. So hope, maybe start
a streak. Who knows what happens here before we get
to uh, because we actually have a load of show
to day a little bit, we'll get to up, we'll
get to up rankings in a second, we'll get to
the picks of best bets, and of course we previous
and Clemson. But tonight, well, of course on recording this
for the Wednesday show, but Tuesday night, U, we're actually

(02:39):
recording three eight forty five at night time. It is
election night. You and I both political, you know, honks.
So we were watching all the returns come in. Now
they called Virginia for spamburger. So the Democrats, the Democrats
to sweep tonight all the races here. I mean, what
I'm really what I'm really keet in here more more
so is the margins, because if these elections can have

(03:03):
a kind of a peak, a peak or aa a
previo was to come next to the midterms. So so
far we have that the Virginia, the Virginia governs race
has been called ready for Spanburger. The New York polls
will closed in about fifteen minutes as a recording for
the mayor's race, of course, and of course the New
Jersey race, which I'm very much interested in because I
have a lot of friends in Jersey. On the Democrats

(03:24):
shoals up right now by twenty points, right now, with
the villag already in so any any any thoughts right
now and this on the on nothing necessarily the races
were it's at large with the election tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, I'm really sucked that the attorney general candidate for
Virginia long.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
But no, he's still leading, but he's not. That's that's
a title race though.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
But yes, oh okay, good because like that was out there,
I knew the Democratic candidate for governor would win for
the simple fact the largest part of the population for
Virginia surrounds the DC area.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
When you have had all of the people who have
lost their jobs because of Doge this year and the
for load workers, the Republican cannon could have been Jesus
Christ himself and he would not have won.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
All right.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
There is no way you have that many people lose
their jobs or get laid off or give her load
that you you would have a Republican cannon that wins.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
So yeah, what what's so happens? Like I said, I'm
very much intrigued by the New York New York City
das race between Hamdi and Cuomo and Sliwa.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I really hope Monne wins at least vose.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's not saying there's no doubt, there's no doubt he
win the election. I think it's more so your margins,
like can he cross the fifty percent threshold? Because you
have a lot of pushback now from when you got
Donald Trump endorsing Andrew Cuomo, who's who's really a Democrat
who's running as an independent. You know, it's a lot
of weird things there because and then using all the
the rhetoric of tho he's like an anti Semite, which

(05:02):
is I don't believe he is, but a lot of
a lot of a lot of a lot of quota
language in this race now. So it's become very ugly
a little bit for a record.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So well, it got ugly on one side, like Donnie
could have literally hit him about sacrificing the elderly population
during COVID, and he took the high road. For the
most part.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
He has literally just been about trying to improve New
Yorker's lives instead of being hitting hitting people low where
they should like Andrew Como, the fact anyone will vote
for Andrew Como after what happened during COVID, Joe.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I agree. In fact, I was talking to my friends.
I was so fast. Some principle, just some principle. See
that's the thing, what you know, I'm a leftleting guy,
Like I'm leftleting guy. Here's the deal. I'm also principle,
I don't give a if you have, say Paul's I do.
If it was a corupt human being, I'm not supporting
him in discussion.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, him and his brother are both corrupt.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
You think Chris two wolfs is corrupt?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oh my god, he might. He might actually be more
corrupt and fake than his brother Andrew.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
But interesting, interesting, I shouldn't take there all right, So
I said, Uh, by the time this podcast comes out,
we're ready over to the results of the race. But uh, anyway,
let's got two power rankings here. If you mean if
we started doing last week on the show, we do
power ten bottom five, so we're week ten power rankings.
I'm go ahead, run down your five teams, the bottom
of five teams in the league right now for you.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
So absolutely worst. It's got to be the just hands down. Now.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
They traded away any talent that they had on defense,
so they're I think they they should.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Be the lock to the one pick.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Okay, at thirty one, I've got the Saints. They were
already trash and trying to be number one, and they
got rid of probably their best at least their best
Steve Threat and maybe their best wide receiver overall. Right,
Tennessee comes in at thirty for me again, another team

(07:09):
who's been trading away parts and it's just complete hot garbage.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And you have Cleveland. They're about to test out their
other rookie quarterback to figure out, hey, do we really
draft the quarterback in the first round or do we
take best player? And finally at twenty eight, I got Miami.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, so we have relatively the same teams in here.
Mightus one thirty two? Have the Saints still when I
still have Saints now? Three two?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Thirty one, I haf the Titans thirty up of Dolphins,
twenty nine I have the Raiders, actually Raiders went momb
Pipe still and twenty the Jets. It's possible. You know.
The Jets take is interesting with you and your run.
I think they won. I think they want to trade
on line today.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
They got nothing back two right now, No worry, we're
doing bottom five for.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
No no, no, I don't know. I don't I'm not disagreeing
with your butch of bottom five. I'm saying though, in
terms of the train deadline, I think.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
They would trade deadline that massive hall twenty twenty seven,
they're gonna have at least three.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Picks, yeah, round picks next two years.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, if they're smart, they will trade back whatever they get,
whatever position they get this year. If it's not the
number one pick in the draft with the quarterback they love,
you trade back and you pick up a fourth first
rounder for next year.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
For the twenty twenty seventh.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Season, I'm probably on these teams that he made some
major moves and the Raiders. The Raiders could have dumped
off some guys the same time guys and dump off
two all. So the Dolphins and the guys. I know
Dolphins did get rid of get rid of gal Pops
to Piladelpia yesterday, but they could have gotten rid of Wall.
So jail waddles Wall too, So I'm surprised they maken
moves there. But look, if you're a bad team, you
know you're bad in the media, and you know you

(09:05):
have to pay these guys going ward, which when reset,
the Jets did the right thing. They got rid of
the really good talent, a light haul back for them,
and I think a reset going forward.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, I would say the two biggest disappointments on this
trade deadline were literally Vegas and Cincinnati. All right, trade Hendrickson.
He's on a one year deal. What are you gonna
franchise him. You don't have money, You've you've wrapped all
your money up on offense, and you had to sure
up that offensive line to protect your quarterback who's gotten

(09:37):
annihilated and knocked out for two out of the last
three years. Right, So why would you not trade him
for first round pick?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Totally?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Totally and Max Crosby same thing.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, there's no doubt that we got a haul for Crossby,
at least two first rounders for him, no doubt about that.
So all right, number ten? Who you got.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
At number ten? I believe they're making my list for
the first time a Denver.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm still not buying just yet. They might be the
worst seven two team ever. I'm gonna swear to God
because they could be easily than I know number one.
But at the same time, they can be easily also
like the other way, like fucking doing seven right, I
mean has been sexy, But you have to get the doubles?

(10:28):
Do they? They won the games they finally to win,
and that's all all it takes and the way the
winning games is the way you're gonna need to win
in the postseason anyway too. Also, now, granted the lower
competition might be much better than it faced so far,
but it's a nice practice round on how they get
things done. I'm gonna tell right now, Dever's not my
top test though people don't be surprised of that. I

(10:50):
just I just there's still a little bit of pay
hustle on this team. I don't know what it is.
Number Nuner ten, this team I penalize heavily packers. I
just I you lose to Cleveland, you lose to fucking Carolina.
What are we doing? Like, are you a super ball team?
We're not superwl team. What are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
No?

Speaker 5 (11:11):
I penalized him a ton for this loss. Yeah, that
just happened. And I don't know it's just because I
lost money on them, But.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
But that too, I mean them and and Detroit both
fucked me this weekend. But you know, it is what
it is. Noumber nine, he got Nember.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Nine, I got Green Bay.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Like, yes, you have beaten a couple of good teams,
but again you have lost to two of the worst
teams in all of football and you tried another one
of them.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Mm hmm. So Nomber nine for me had the Patriots
and again very impressed what they're doing this year. I
did the mid terms, great race with Kyle earlier All
Yes Straight's podcast greet them a plus because I didn't
see this coming. But again, would I still consider what

(12:05):
do I think? Do I think they're still small the
tender not yet. I got to see bigger. I gotta
see more. Let's say to end this year, first fight
go there. You don't get you get. You don't get
to cut the line of confidence immediately just because you
have a subject record, because you can either be seventy
five or three weeks an the way too, you know
what I mean. So let's let's burn your way to
the to the top first. But for now, three weeks
in a nine weeks rather, they've been impressive, so you know,

(12:27):
pass them nine eight.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
I agreed with you on the New England thing, but
when you look at their schedule, they're beating nothing but
trash and so that's why I had to drop them
out of my top ten.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Worse than me. While you go, yeah at.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Number eight, I have Green Bay or at number.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Eight I have Detroit excuse me, yes, but I still
trust them a little more, at least.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
At least A couple of their losses are against good teams. Yes,
Minnesota had a rookie quarterback, but they have a great
off a great defensive team, so I can't fault them
for that Green Bay they were when they lost the
Green Bay Week one, Green Bay had all the hype
in the world.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, yeap. Number eight for me is the Buccaneers. It
probaces me will higher. But the injuries also is the thing.
I don't know how healthy Canna be this week. I
do think they're super protender, though I do believe Baker Mayfield.
I do think that team, once they're healthy, will be
a problem going forward in the NC playoffs. But we'll see.
We'll see, uh, if they get healthy and if those
things happen first, you know, they knocking have Mike Evans
probably for the year, and you know, things of nature.

(13:34):
I mean Buko's hurt. I mean I don't I don't
know who's hurt last week. Whatever, See he's healthy aafter
the bye week, we'll see, We'll see, all right, Number
seven he got.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
At number seven.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
I have to knock them down just for the fact
they knocked my quarterback out for the season.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's gonna be Seattle at number seven, right, you gotta.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Wait, wait, you knocked them because they not the quarterback
on that's it.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
That's no.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Because every team ahead of them, I could justify being
ahead of them.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
So I just had to put them seven there.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
They are a great team, but again everything above them,
I will argue deserves to be ahead of them.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Would you put the super contender this point? Now you
still have to wait and see.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh no, they're They're definitely a Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Okay, okay, interesting, all right, Number seventh the Lions. I
pedalyize this these guys too also because again Detroit, you
have now you have three losses. Now you've got a
bad loss against Tampa, against h Minnesota that was a
bad loss, really bad loss. And then and you had
a bad loss because being May week one, which I
we forgave after a while. But now you've seen some

(14:44):
things here like concerning now, are they still a contender? Absolutely,
but you've seen some concerning things there that you still
have to wait and see if they play out. But
you know for now, Mis seven, you know they that
missile loss the battle you lose to Jason McCarthy on
his first game back over a month. Look at home?
Really we're doing here?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Who are doing so? Not good? All right? Number six?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
We got at number six.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
I have Tampa Bay. Literally they they know how to
win the game. They always managed to pull it out
at the end. And the name of the game is winning.
So doesn't matter who Baker Mayfield has to throw to,
doesn't matter who he has protecting him.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
He finds the way to win. And that's why he's
the top three MVP candidate.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Mm hmmm hmm. Number six for me is the Buffalo
Bills Big Wingers Kansas City. But and I everybody on
on social media on Sunday that winded me anything big picture.
We've seen this before the last five years. They own
the Kansas City and regular season, doing the playoffs. We
all picked them to win the game. I think you

(15:49):
picked the muscle win the game against the Sunday No,
I oh ship okay, yeah, I be Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah that was the one one game I knew you
had against me that you won.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
No one surprising the results. But do it in January.
It's all so that's what I'm gonna say about that. So Buffalo,
you're a good team, you know, super contender, but you
got you still gotta prove to me in January. It's
it matters to me, all right.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Five, you got the biggest fall of the entire week
for me, The Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Same for me.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Man, everyone everyone deserves to have a letdown game. But really,
five freaking turnovers by Indiana Jones. Dude, you're looking like
Danny Dimes again. You can't have that.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, and then their schedule without going forward, you got
the Falcons coming up next week, Chiefs week after that.
They should be okay for the most parts. I mean,
the top the top games here going forward really is
the end of the year, really is the Chiefs. The
Jaguars game is always gonna be tough because they wasn't
gonna misues, Seahawks, Niners, and then jag Wars again.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, that's a tough five weeks right there. Those are
those are four playoff teams that they will be playing.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah. So but yeah, let's see. You want to you
want to hope I picked put them in this game.
You want to hope though that Indeed, Indians, it's a
falling make us a trend. It will say a lot
to me if they bounce back and win. This game.
Was Atlanta, I'm a little dangerous of times that they're
not a good team, but they are debut frisky. They

(17:35):
can They would be this week to Bebuthoth three weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
So is you know, cover Drake London and you'll be
all right.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, And that game is also an interesting game too
on top of that. So therefore there was some something
to be said about Atlanta maybe having a chance there. So,
but we'll see how these next week or two, these
next two three weeks, I'm gonna tell off from me
how Indianapolis are as a contender. All right, Number four you.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Got, and number four I have the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Alright.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I don't think I've ever seen an aging quarterback play
so well. Yeah, but my god, are the Rams clicking
on all cylinders?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yes? They are? They are? They? They to me might
be the clear second best tea in the NC Yeah,
and there's an argument that could be the best in
the NFC. But I'm gonna aways gonna give it to
the champs first before they put me wrong. Four for
me is the Chiefs again. I'm not surprised they lost
the game. They were number one for me last week

(18:42):
and knocked them a little bit if they weren't, if
the plassar they were not in. But I am confident. Look,
people say all the schedule getting tough. If they've done
for next week and they play indiev after knowing Casey
in her history, they'll go to those games just because
who they are.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
When shocking about No, what shocks me is you predicted
they would lose, and yet you still had them at
number one last week and then you knock them all
the way down the fourth this week.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Is that bad? That that?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (19:17):
That makes zero sense when you had the team that
beat them still behind them at like six.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
The team that beat them was like number ten last week.
I think it was, though, So that's why why, Yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Can make a huge jump. I mean, I don't know
if you know that.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
But we'll see, we'll see. I'm playing the long game here,
these two teams. So number three we.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Got at number three out of Kansas City, Yeah, I do,
because they're they're they're the number two team in the
a C.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
To me that I can trust right now, God, Zachary,
you're crazy.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
No, I'm not crazy because guess what, I have the
team ahead of them that beat them.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Mm hmm, all right, numb three for me to Seattle Seahawks.
Sam Donald is I too. I see enough, Bro, there's
two hund a row. He's on this ship, got in Minnesota?
Does this in the regular season? Now, obviously, somedden be
said with Donald, in the playoffs in games that matter,
but you still got to get there. You still got
to get to them. You still have to get to

(20:19):
the playoffs first to make that to have an opportunity
to fail and at least for that time. Me and
Sam Donald's definitely Kirk Cousins some time being which is better,
which is better when he was he FO Minnesota. So
hey this he's he's he's he's He's dealing, Bro, he's dealing.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
You've got me all confused on this trust and ranking ship.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Welcome the right world.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, man, you need to lay off the shrips. Bro.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's a It'sativa.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh my god, Number two at No.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Two had the team I would say is the best
team when it.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Comes to the playoffs. Buffalo Bills the AFC, All right,
they may be the the runner up in this past
Super Bowl and the team who has been in the
AFC Championship for what the last five, six, seven years,
so they can keep doing it.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
They've gotten screwed on poor defensive plays at the end
against the Chiefs a couple of times, but we're talking
regular season, and it's regular season rankings. Right now, they
are the second best team in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Okay, all right, the Rams, that's that probably right now.
In my opinion, Stafford's dealing. They got back, he dominates.
You have Devonte Adams, the defense lobally good, and I
feel like they're getting better at season progresses, and that's
what stams for them. I think that they might be
only team I think the NFC people being the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
So real quick, mhm. If the Rams in Seattle, we're
to play the Bills and the Chiefs, are you taking
Seattle and the Rams to beat both those teams?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean, combine the rosters.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
No, Like, if it's head's up, Rand is playing the Bills,
RAN's playing the Chiefs, Seattle playing playing the playing the Chiefs,
Seattle playing the Bills. Who would you take? Would you
take those two NFC teams over those two AFC.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Teams right now? Probably yes, wow, right now, probably yes,
Now I could change goop weeks to come, but right now, yeah,
all right? Uh number one for you to be easy.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
You haven't seen the one, right, yeah, defending champion.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
That goes out for everybody.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Bro, they went before to one of my lists and
didn't even play this week.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I want to know how you had forty million under
the cap or something something insane and all those players.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I'm gonna say something right now, Howie Roseman is the
best executive in football and it's not. There's not a
close second in discussion.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
So there's a cheat in the salary caps. Somehow that
math does not at a right.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
All right, let's get to our best bets. We have
four buys this week. We have the Browns, the Jets,
the Eagles, and the Buccaneers. Wait no, that's wrong. I
called this. That's wrong one wrong page, buddy, Sorry, over time,
the Bengals, the Cowboys, the Chiefs and the Titans. Of
these four teams, who needs us by the most?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, the Chiefs are the other ones playing for anything
at this point, So Ship, they got it. You're the
most just to get a little healthier. Everyone else, who
the fuck Cares.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, Dallas. I think Dallas cooked. That's why I saw
last night. They're cooked. Yeah, everyone when they'll get training
a little loss so that that puts you what my
bettest fried my my my wager, it's fried about one.
All right, let's go the first game here, Furst Night football.
We have Raiders at Broncos. The Broncos nine half point favorites.
The over under Zach is forty two and a half.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Give me the under. The Broncos are gonna shut down
down the Raiders. But will the Raiders score or will
will the Broncos score enough points to get get past
that over? I don't know, so give me the under.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Call me crazy, I'm I'm gonna. I wanna rely on
the division optics here. Give me the Raiders and points.
Broncos win the game, no doubt about that. But nine
points a lot of points in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
This lose this week besides bronc powers.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
But it's not all you need, bro, I mean, these
these Bronco Raiders games are always weird. Okay, divisional games
you throw away the records, Bro, These teams hate ea chair.
I think the ABC. I think the AMC West combination
of the four teams. I think the AFC West teams
hate each other more than any of the Division of Football.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
As a toss up between the NFC East, I would say.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Maybe the Chiefs Raiders things brutal Broncos Raiders, brutal Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Yeah, whatever, its natur is natural to hate Dallas, and
it's natural to hate New York.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's just like something that's built into.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
The gens and you come you come out of the womb,
and you hate New York and you.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Hate Texas Philly fans, well, yeah, they're just assholes.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
So the Washington is the only thing you really can't hate,
like like, I don't like the Skins, like the Commanders
because it's because my rivals. But I never hated them though.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
You can't hate us because we we either are great
for a year or we just sucked for a ten.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
That's very true. I'm going Vegas heard the point here,
all right, it's gonna the Sunday Momoso game. You got Falcons,
that Colts. The Colts are six one favorites. You'll runners
for to have sack.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Oh give me the Colts. This has gotta be a kid, right.
I gotta believe the cult will show up. They will
dominate this game.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, I've been culture are too. Also, the line is
low enough. I know Atlanta to be first FID times,
but that was that that was done last week. You
know that had a chance to be first game win
last week they lost that chance. Atlanta's not I just
can't trust them. Indian needs it needs a bounce back here,
and I think I think he's a serious team. I
think they're a serious team, and I think they'll mean
business weeks. So give me Indian on the road. Well
and a Bojo site game here. All right, here you

(26:29):
go one o'clock games. You got Giants at Bears. The
Bears are three half pint favorites. The over under it
is forty eight.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Hey, what's the spread.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
The spread is Bears minus three and a half.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
And you'll give me the Bear, give me the Bears. Alright, Yeah,
you're gonna have an emotional let down. There's no weapons.
I don't care what Jackson Dark does now.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
No, I do think there's something to be said that
the you know one, the diminute they lost uh skattaboo
the heart and that this the just the fire that
team went with them, because ever since that that second
quarter of that Eagles game, they just have not looked
the same. So, but having but having said that, though,
because because of dark because because the thing, here's the thing.

(27:13):
Dart not the issue. Dart had a good game, even
gainst Francisco, no tourn mbers. You know, he had a
very pretty pretty pishing game, you know, for what it
was with no receivers to play with, you know, and
yet they got dominated. So I'm gonna I'm gonna get
I'm gonna bet the under this game actually best passily
under piers win this game. But give me under this one.
So all right, Bills are dolphins. The Bills on the

(27:36):
road are nine half point favorites. Over under is forty
nine and a half. A lot of fucking points. Bro.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
No, it's dolphins are so cooked, so cooked. Give me
give me the Bills to cover this.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Bro, I don't know why I'm doing this, though, I'm
thinking doubts in points. That's a lot of points, bro,
it's a lot of points. I'm sorry, a lot of points.
The Doves always pay the bill as well when they losing.
When when they lose, the games they always made the
Bills were in competitive So give me doubles to the points.
All right, we got Ravens at Vikings. The Ravens are
four point favorites. The over under is forty nine.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Give me the Ravens in this one. I the way
it's gone for JJ McCarthy. Play a great game, play
a crappy game. Play a great game playing crap that's correct.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yet the Ravens. This might be the toughest game of
the Ravens stretcher I told you about. Remember told me
the six game stretch that they should go the werst one.
This is the hardest game of stretch, and I think
they'll dominate here. Lamar's back. You saw Lamar cook against
mind me last week. He's back. The defense is playing better.
Two on top of that, give me the Ravens a
win and then winning and run away. So all right,
we got Browns at Jets. Who will watched this ship?

(28:47):
Browns are two and that point favorites. The over under
thirty eight. Oh my god, is your doors starting this week?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I certainly so.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
The way the way you sound early in the podcast,
is it sound like though that you got some like
you know, you got some ins information here?

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Well, I don't believe Gabriel even if Gabriel were starting,
he doesn't make it past halftime. If it if they're
not winning, I want to take actually because it's two
ship teams and there are two best defenders just got
traded from the Jets.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Give me the over thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Really, I'm went on the way, and then the under
any under none the Stevens fucking score. This's gonna be
a seventeen thirteen game all day. This is seventeen thirteen
all day. And if if she Door plays this game too, also,
especially I doubt he's starting now. If if he were starting,
you would hear reports today that he was thinking first
team reps. That hasn't happened yet. So give me the under.

(29:50):
All right, we got this is one of the best
games the weekend. Patriots at Bucks, the Bucks two that
point favorites the over under it is forty eight. This is.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
What a week.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
I just took New England off of my top ten.
I actually bummed up Tampa Bay from where they were
the week before, and I want to take New England in.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
The match up.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I see why because of the Bucks injuries, but they're
off of buy they're at home. That half points interesting too,
because Tampa. Don't be the home thing is that's three points,
but then it's going to half point yell away, so
Vegan's what you're doing there. But I do think the
paths to do that down though. I mean though they
that could have been last week though too. Also, you
know he won. I'm gonna Tampa, bro, I'm go to Tampa.

(30:43):
I think I'm a buye baker. You know there should
be ably healthier this week. Obviously, obviously this is this podcast.
Check the injury report first before you bet this game.
But right now, on Tuesday nights, I record this. I
bet the Bucks best best the Bucks. All right, we
have another well yeah ship game, Saint said Panthers. The

(31:05):
Panthers a fin half point favorites over under is forty Zach.
The Panthers are four four by way, buddy.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
God, and they're probably gonna be six and four.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
I technically hope they will because I want to take
the Panthers in this game to cover.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Didn't Chris, Chris was on the shoulders. It wasn't this year,
no Christmas to show us. Didn't Chris say that the
Panthers will be good this year?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I think he did.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I gotta go back to the listen to the podcast again,
though all.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
I remember is him saying Tennessee was gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, no, no, that that that might be Chris's worst
take of the entire Thomas podcast. And he had some
bad ones. He's got a really bad ones. Kyrie Irvings
takes and Kevin Durant takes and Kawhi takes. That's the
worst one, haven't Sai Niamhan? You over in this game?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
You over?

Speaker 4 (31:55):
All?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Right? We got Jaguars at Texans. The Texans at one point,
Facy over under Zach and thirty eight.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Shiit Taxan's defense. Give give me the under in this game,
Jacksonville failing to score points. They know if they get
in the red zone, good lord, Trevor Lawrence doesn't know
how to get in the end zone. Is the most
mind bod wing thing to watch, a team that struggles

(32:26):
so mightily inside the red zone.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
So she Strow had a concussion, right, yeah, so he's
probably playing on this this game. I'm looking. I'm checking
down to see his uh, his status for the game.
He's being evaluated in he had you know, Davis Mills
is the backup. There's been no he's still in Portocasta yesterday,
no uh reports on him returning yet. So for the

(32:58):
time being, I'm gonna assume up playing this week. Give
me Jaguars won this game, Jaguars five and three. That
that's your team by way. You know, got in this
one five and three.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's why I took the under. I can't pick him
because Houston's defense is for real.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yes, I agree, I think Jaguars is gonna I'm gonna
just a better team at this point. Now, all right,
we got Cardinals at Seahawks. The Seahawks six and a
half one favorite see over under zac that's forty five
and a half.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Oh, give me the Seahawks. It's easy. I don't care professed.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
So still you just he'll be the starter started next week.
This isn't even Colors healthy. That starting? What does that
mean the Cardinals?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:47):
At this point, what what is the buyout money? What
is the dang cap money? Can't can't any what any
team trade for Kyle Murray.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
He's he's still a good quarterback. He's had a rough
year though, let's be real, hasn't been good this year.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
We we gotta be careful with that. We're good all right,
he's an okay quarterback.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
He hasn't been okay. Look, he has been good this
year though, I know, but.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
You just said he's he's a he's a good quarterback.
But he's not a good quarterback. He's an Okay, he
is a he's a starter in this league being paid
max money.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I still think the top six money aside, I think
the top sixteen correct league.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I don't. I think he's there. He might be twentieth,
might be twenty.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
In any case, I got Seattle this game. Seattle's cooking it.
I don't see why it stopped. Now at home, he
be Seattle. All right, another big game here we go,
the Rams at Niners. The Rams are three and a
half one favorites. The over under Zack is forty nine
and a half.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Oh gaming the Rams?

Speaker 4 (34:49):
All right, you're getting me basically a fully healthy Rams
team going against the mash unit of the forty nine Ers.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
No, all right, they're not. I gotta compete this week.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
The problem is is that when they played early in
the year, it was the same scenario, bangedt Niners team,
healthy Rams team, and still the Rams lost that game
at home. Yes, this is actually one of the weirdest.
It's actually one of the better live reies in league
right now. Rams and Niners very weird reverie very No
matter what the records are, the always tight games, I'm

(35:24):
gonna go over in this one. Actually, I'm gonna go over.
Mac Jell's playing very good football right now. But for
the record, I think Rams do win the game, but
I'm not as confident about that being the best bet,
so I'm gonna go over in that one. All right,
we got Lions at Commanders. That's the house Bowl here,
you guys, you and the wife a Lion's half. My
favorite Sea over under is four and a half of that.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Uh oh, first off this week? Aware a Lions jersey?
All right, I give up? Okay, there comes a limit.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
And when do you play? Guys?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
You have a quarterback coming off a leg injury for
the second time, and what does he do all game long?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Coming off leg injury? Run? Run, run. At a certain point,
you have to throw the ball if you're gonna convince
me you had a real leg injury.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Mariota has a good But no, it's Detroit.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
They just lost to the Vikings. They're gonna come out
with some vengeance. They're gonna they're going to embarrass my team.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah that that that line is too low. And I
know what's the same thing lastic with the Vikings. I said,
when Mat smash the Lions and they ruined it this
week special Lions. Daniel's out now. They haven't said the
top of a year. They say he could be out
only a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I said, what is the point of bringing him back?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
I I totyree you on that one, toy bree you
on that one. I think I think after this week,
the seventh seed right now in the NFC is gonna
come down to the Niners and the Beers. Coge. I
think College are out. I think College are out. I
think the Commanders are out now.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Everybody's and look, bringing him back now is like leaving
him in the game was seven minutes to go down
thirty one to seven. There's no point. There's just no point.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So you do blame mister one day in Quinn for that.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
I don't know who made that decision to put put
them back in, but yeah, at a certain point, your
IQ needs to be checked when you're playing guys.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Like this, right, all right, Sunday Football game. We have
Steelers at Chargers. The Charges are three point favorites. Over
under is forty five zat man.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Steelers are so banged up or not?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
The Steelers, sam f Chargers are so banged up they
got no offensive line.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
But I still am gonna take the Chargers. Mmm.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I'm a little over this one actually for the same reason.
I don't know if I could trust eyteen to win
this game. Because it's the Steelers. They did they what
they did against the Colts, fucking anomaly. The defense that
he showed up one week. The offense is actually okay.
But the Chargers, I don't know. The Chargers are banged
up and still winning games.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I saw, yeah, I saw stat about the Steelers this
past weekend. Aaron Rodgers threw a total of three passes
more than ten yards.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Correct. Yeah he had a Yeah, most of those under
ten yards. That's that's checkdown city like Brady, that's all
he does. Yeah, I'm gonna go over in this one.
Over is my best bet here, all right. And finally,
the game of the week one night Football certainly have
been an even bigger game they won this week, But
Eagles at Packers. The Packers are two and a half

(38:58):
one favorites see over others forty five. They got this
one wrong. Record, I'll play in the second qu No.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I agree with you, they got it wrong.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
I'll take the Eagles all right. All the men's Eagles
made this past week. Their offense is gelling. I wanna
believe they're gonna feed safe.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
On and a J. Brown if A J. Brown plays, So.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, give me Philly just I'm sorry. I after what
we watched this team all season long, and I know
the record is still pretty good overall, besiness the performances here,
there's no way in how the package would be two
of my favorites gainst the Eagles, even at home. I'm sorry,
I'll give I'll give you a pick them at best.
If even Eagles be one my favorite at least, I
agree and off by week two on top of that. So,

(39:48):
but the best bet is the over. I sense this
be going to being a very It was a high
scoring game, but forty is low enough to uh to
uh to bet. So the best BET's the over all. Right, Well,
asking me to get you out of here, it is
at the FC minute time. Well, we won this week,
make Forest in dominant fashion. I barely watched the game though,

(40:09):
because I was watching the World Series.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, so I should eat my words.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I mean a little bit, a little bit like.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I was convinced you should take make Forest just because
FSU hasn't proven anything for the last month, month.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
And a half. And you weren't wrong. You were not
wrong about that.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
But man, I'm still convinced we will not get rid
of my Mike Rvell.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
You know the buyouts just too, the buyouts way higher
than Brian Kelly's buyout. Yes, so I don't I don't
see if I say copping out this yet. I think
give know the year and then they'll do my next year.
But if they feel again, all right, I hadn't said that.
Though we're at Clemson. We are Clemson twenty point favorites,
the over run of fifty six points. Clemson has been
another failure this year too. Well, so Dad will talk

(40:57):
about like I might get fired this week. You know
Tables was talking about that shit publicly. What a mess
therew Clemson? Huh.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I will here's how much I hate daboo. I will
not complain again about the money I lost in the market.
If we can beat Clemson and Dad and it's the
nail in the coffin for Daboo.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
I don't think it's I think it's a ripe this year.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
I agree, But if it could be the nail in
the coffin that gets them fired, I won't even ever.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Complain again about this past twenty four hours.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
So what's the record right now? The record is what
Clemson is real quick? Five three and five? My god,
they're fucking horrible. Yeah, as bad as we've been this year. Wow?
What better than they are? Wow? And yet I don't think.
I don't think. I don't think he gets fired. I
think we'll give one more year.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, he'll get one more year, and then I'll be like, look,
you have to check test the portal. You have to
bring you guys to the portal.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I think I think he wants to get fire, to
be honest, I think once because he's the thing, he's
done so much good in that school that if he
gets fired now, with all the good jobs out there Auburn, Florida,
Penn State, you know, and other jobs can be opening
up in their future, I would not doubt that he

(42:23):
will still get a lot of money to go some elsewhere.
So I maybe maybe he's trying to test the ad
to fire him now so he can hit hit the market.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
I don't know it won't be LSU, but I could
easily see him and lu I forgot l s U.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I forgot about that one.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I can see him in a UF Jersey or Penn State.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
There's a lot of good jobs out there now that
that that if Dabo hits the market, no matter how
bad his team did this year, there will be a
school or two or more that will probably go ask
for services. Trust me, but you don't like David Sweeney.
He is still a pretty big name.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
So if we bring on this were to stay on
switching teams, on switching school.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
We got no we we got no wins, weekend puins.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Oh again, I'm taking Florida State. I want us to
be the nail in the coffin.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I'm thinking f SQ two. So here we go. All right?
That was it for me, Zach good love with the picks.
Uh anything else we got here?

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah? Native run like the Ravens, like like the Ravens
that you predict are gonna have. I gotta catch up.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Well, there's two games in for more to go to
get six in a row. So we'll see all right, Zach,
we'll talk to him. Brother, all right, man kettle, you
got a brother.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Later later,
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