November 12, 2025 • 40 mins
Earnest ‘EJ’ Christian and Zack ‘The Degenerate discuss their Week 11 NFL Power Rankings, BEST BETS, preview Florida State/Virginia Tech and react to Nico Harrison’s dismissal with the Dallas Mavericks.
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Speaker 5 (01:08):
It is once again the week eleven edition of e
J Versus Degenerate, And of course we're joined here by
America's for Degenerate Zachary with us. What's up, Zach Happy
veteran day by way, oh man, thank you, yeah, by
the way, you want again this week?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Oh oh.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Hell, that's what happens from going to all those wars
and getting their ass and getting my ass beat by you.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well, we got a lot to get today in the show.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Of course, our power rankings coming in sich a second,
our best battery do every week?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Em Stryt preview. Who the places we can go for? God?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Does that matter? Our season's over?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Don't give a fuck questions. Here's the question. They do
we make a bowl game? That's the question. And who knows?
Do you want that?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I didn't care if we made a bowl game.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I wanted to beat beat Daboo Sweeny and it be
the nail in the coffin in his career there at Clemson.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I love you say. I like to say his name.
Daboo is dabbo. You go, dab boo boo, that's what
it is. Man's da boo. Oh God. And we'll get
to all that in just a second. But we're playing
Virginia Zechu giu about that game.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
But before we get there, let's go tell power rankings.
We've been doing top ten, bottom five, Zach, roll at
your bottom five?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
What you got?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh, bottom five? Worst team in all of football?
Speaker 6 (02:42):
They had the number one pick this past draft, they're
probably gonna have the number one pick this coming draft, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
M all right, thirty one, thirty one it's.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Cleveland, another team taking a whole new quarterback. And at
thirty it's gonna be vague, a whole nother team taking
a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, you see this little trajectory we got going.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And a draping no quarterback to take.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
I don't know, man, That's what they said about this
past year's And guess what giants hit hit the lot
of with their draft pick.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
That's very true, that's true.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Uh, twenty nine, at twenty nine, I've got the Jets,
and then at number twenty eight, I've got these Saints.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Wow, only because they screwed me on my money. You
were supposed to get your ass beat by Carolina and instead.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You became Sames. These same these Sames these here all right?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
No, no, in terms of like that bet not sms
of like the probably because our mind's a lot tweaked
differently than yours. Now I do have the same number
thirty two. The Tansy Titans the worst team football. You
know they they they didn't plase weekend and they're still
worst being team football.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well that thirty one though, but my boys, the Giants.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
When you considered the firing right, considering Jack the Domainian
play next week, things have want the Rails now for
this team. So thirty the Saints only they won, they
moved up a little bit. Twenty nine to Browns. They're
going backwards now, and twenty eight the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, I don't know how you.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Can say the Browns are going backwards and yet you
put them ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Of the Saints as far as true power rankings.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, but uh, Saints won their game this week also too.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, exactly, That's why the Saints should be.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Still some free back though Saints might.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Have a quarterback, they might have a franchise quarterback. They're
gonna find out.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
What are you buying on Tyler Show.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
What I'm saying is those first four teams Tennessee, Cleveland, Vegas, Jets,
they don't have a quarterback. You get to the Jets,
or I mean you get to the Saints, they got it.
They might have a quarterback. Then you look at your
team at twenty seven, the Giant they have a quarterback
of the future.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Thank god, we do well.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I mean you see healthy of course, I mean fucking
you've been a quartercall even four times.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
You already that's the only position in football that matters
going forward.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We look looking to play this week.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Good.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
He still probably played more games than Jayden Daniels has.
So what's your point?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Let me ask a question. Do you agree with the
Giants firing Medeble?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yes? And I said it to you as precisely as
I could.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
If you're going to run your quarterback intentionally, not to
mention all of his scrambles as often as you did.
I think they said they had twenty seven designed run
plays for your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Already. You're not trying to preserve your quarterback. You're trying
to get your quarterback hurt. Yeah, you can't win without
your quarterback on the field. That back in general, exactly,
it's like what we call a design run for a
guy who just came back from a hamstring injury.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah. Oh oh, you're like dan quinn um. Hum, interesting, interesting, interesting?
So all right, number ten, tell what you got at
number ten.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
I have Kansas City talk about a massive letdown this
past week.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
So yeah, well, then plays the weekend, but.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know the week before last, look right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
That lost looks bad now because about how bad Buffle
look looking at Miami this week exactly, so number ten,
I'm gonna shock you guys, probably make we'll see Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh yeah, they don't belong there. I'm sorry, I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I'm playing the long game here, but on the Boltim
Ravens here.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Really the long game where they look like ship this
past weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
It's it's it's okay. They won their game. Okay, this
is the sixth game. That's about another foign. Now on
the stretch, now, oh three, no three, the stretch. It
went through the hardest game of the stretch this Minnesota
in Minnesota, so they damon.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Going against the quarterback making his fourth start of his
career is the hardest game.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Okay. Yeah, that's that same quarterback that has beat Detroit
last week on the road. Don't give me that. Don't
give me that. No, you'll get the passes on that one. No,
hell no.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
We both expected him to have a shake game. We
literally went over it.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
And okay, I'm playing a long I'm playing a long
game here. Baltimore may not lose another game until week sixteen.
The foreign apart right now, I see their schedule and
they may nine to five before losing who they posts
the next game because New England, that's even that gets
(07:59):
Maybe we'll see, we'll but the air game better than
deman Is played much better football.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Now Lamar is back. You know the boys are back. Man,
I was gonna say the boys are back, all right,
number nine.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You got at number nine, I've got Tampa Bay. Okay,
they have already dropped on my list, but I had
other teams.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Ahead of them this week.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Tough, tough loss with those boys.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Number nine for me is Green Bay. It was tough too,
because like they could I had him. Initially, I was like,
you know what, I'm just not I don't I don't
believe this team and then banged up. You know, it's
so hot and cold week the week and look not
to say feel it was a bad loss because obviously
Philly is champs, but they had chances to win that
(08:46):
game and they did not take advantage of that. That
was a fucking no score game most of the way.
They will street nothing in the middle and fourth quarter
at Lambo.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You have you don't deserve to be in the top
ten after that game. You play that bad after losing
to Carolina, I'm sorry you don't even get to be
in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
That's a good point, and I feel the new world.
It's two on top of that. So all right, number.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Eight, at number eight, I have a team that barely
moved up on my list from last week, Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I believe this is they just can't lose, no matter
how bad they play. They just don't lose. Bro.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I'm gonna piss off people off your mouth. They're not
my top ten. They're not my top ten. I understand
eight and two.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I just don't. This team is just.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I don't care how bad boad next plays, they would
still be Baltimore, Baltimore. What happens, Baltimore would have no
chance against I.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Think, promise you still you You've been so like burned
by Baltimore first couple weeks of the year that even
though they won three in a row, you're still on
the fence of this team.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So look at who they played. They played the worst
defenses in football.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I get it for me, Tampa again. They're still banged up.
And you know that game they I mean that passed
that pass the game. I thought they win that game
out a bye. But tough loss there, but it's still
a good team. I just wonder if, like, what's you're
ceiling now?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
The ceiling now? Second round now is supposed to the
conference championship or even a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I know.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I feel like certain teams NFC have pulled away now
from the pack, and Tampa's not one of them, unfortunately
for them. So all right, number seven, you got.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
At number seven.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
This team pulled out a squeaker and because of that
they bare that.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They also moved up on my list. It's the Detroit Lions.
You managed to be a practice squad team from the
DC area by twenty plus points. Congratulations. That was so low.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
But they've been kind of they've been kind of like
Jackal High this year a little bit. So I understand
that logic Number seven for me, actually he's gonna be
the Colts. A Tina knows he has sweak down to
win in uh in Europe and a game. I said
that before the week started that was a must win
for the Colts. That was a must win because they
if they lose to to Row the seventy and three
(11:20):
goals in by a week playing the Chiefs after that,
there's doubts seeping in.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Now, you know, what I'm saying, but instead they won
the game. They won the game.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Look, it wasn't pretty, Atlanta's kind of Jackal the High,
but Atlanta's one of those teams that can beat any
given Sunday, and they won a game because as a
team that is capable winning against anyone in this league.
Seem Pokas need to be buffal a couple weeks ago.
So I get colt kudos here. They find a way
to win in a not very pretty game. So all right,
number six, you.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Got at number six, I've got Seattle, a team that
is but top top top ten and offense, top ten
in defense, just outstanding play.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
On both sides.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
That feels low bro.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Wait until you see the top five teams.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I'm already scared to see it now because like, who's
in there? But we'll for a second.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I think I think every one of my time five
teams could be Seattle.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I think at this point, I think anybody could be
anybody given Sunday. Though.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
That's the thing that's the that's the this season very special,
is the fact that this season is so wide open.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It feels that way anyway. Six for me, what helme?
I think though?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Six for me is the Patriots ibably get some love.
So now they have their second center winning the year,
winning in Buffalo one month ago, a month and so ago,
and now he went in Tampa.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
That's a good win.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
No, he got a soft schedule and I'm slowly buying
in by the way, for the record, all they'll talk
about Shane Styke.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
And coach of the year Coyllee Shannon coach of the year.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
I think Mike Raybills went up, went up and passed
them this week after this, after this win, Mike Raybell
was doing something really special doing right now they get
him credit.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
So all right, number five at.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Number five, I've got New England. Okay, their quarterback is
actually the number one betting favorite right now for m
v P.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I saw that. It's crazy. I don't know. I don't
know if I believe that though.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Be honestly, I think it should be Jonathan Taylor or
Matthew Stafford before him. But I prick maas in coversation.
I agree should be in a conversation, but I'm like,
you should be the betting.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Favorite New England. Money man, I get it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Five for me though? Is Detroit again?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
This is a team that still figure things out a
little bit, you know. Uh, but you know they beat
your boys way you're supposed to. The probably should be
been so the same way to last week, but they.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Probably should have. That's why they're not in the top five.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Agree, and I see why this is this. There's some
things they're concerned me with Detroit forward. But we'll see
this game, got Philadelphia coming up, Well, we'll watch. We'll
be in our best bets. We'll say a lot going forward.
But out apply for me.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Four. Who you got at number four? A team that
wasn't even in my top ten last week? The Chargers.
It is about time to give them the love they deserve.
All the big wins they've had, you've got to give them,
give them their respects.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, I oh, another team that promised my top ten.
Not there should surprised you. I do have a I
have an AC West team them before no charges though
it is the can't see Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah that's a sphrase. I'm five and four. You are
just betting on the last few years.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I bet that's free years an the future. Who I've
been on trust.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
People say, well, give me a football reason, Well, I
don't think your football reason to whit trust, that's it,
just little bit it.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Yeah, they played like shit this year, but hey man,
you know what they did in twenty eighteen they.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Won exactly exactly Je Rakings, that's acts.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, I go by this season.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
But that's boring though, that's boring. You know, it's trust.
I trust this team. I mean, oh, by the way,
I know you've seen. We'll get to the second. But
Casey on the road his favorite as Denver. What a
record so Vegas gives me also too?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
All right, you got at number three. I've got a
far quarterback from the New York Giants. I've got Indiana
Jones with the actual MVP of the league.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
That part, Dothan Taylor John that part I agree with
you on there.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Let's say, guest seventeen touchdowns down.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Ship, he's around, he's scoring and skipping, sipping.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I think it's four games now with three touchdowns, all right.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Every time same he's skipping and scoring. So he's he's
very very active.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Three for me though, is DC Yawks. I still questioned
their super Bowl contender. But the more Seawie week is
like the winning the games, I guess the team's supposed
to be supposed to beat down like Arizona, the winning
when you're supposed to like it was weird seeing them
only six point favorite against the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, there's optics. I think going to the smash the
word for the world.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Go.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
That's that's something to me. That's that's a lot to
he said there. So that big game is the MSAS week.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Can't wait for Okay, wait for that game because we
have really big games this week after coming up.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
So all right, two add.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Number two the La Rams and he just went by
the last five games for this season. They should probably
be number one.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
And but my god, Matthew Stafford looks like he can
play another five years if he wanted.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Twenty five touchdowns two interceptions. Oh you're okay?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, I think he's got twenty touchdowns and his last five.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, it's insane how good he is.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I also have the reps number two, and there's an
argue for number one, but unfortunate number one.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
They lost to exactly, so the Eagles number one, right,
you go, you two.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
His thing.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's not pretty, but his thing.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
They're champs and they're gonna get your boy's best shot
every week. So you gotta bake that in They're finding
ways to win no matter what. That's all that matters.
Two champions due and I hate saying that, but god,
that's so good. So anyway, Zachary, let's get your best bets.
(17:28):
We got two buys this week, only two the Colts
in the Saints. Who who needs to buy more?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
In your opinion?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh? Man, the Colts need it. Tonathan Taylor needs a rest.
Let him. He'll love. He's taking a few bruises along
the way the last ten games.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I agree, I agree, I definitely get it. I think
at the right time, you can recalibrate your eight. That's
why that This is why that win against Atlanta was huge.
You can recalibrate now you're eight and two, feeling good
about things though. Okay, you come back after buy against
k C and how you make you make you a
sense now.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
To win number one. So that's a huge, huge win
flo him. That's why.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
That's why said they was they almost win with the goals.
So all right, here we go Thursday night, Zach. You
got Jets at Patriots. The Pats are thirteen point favorites
the over under Zach, it's forty three and a half.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Game in the Pats all right, they're gonna smoke this team.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I know it's a division game and you're gonna be like, oh,
you know they always play each others out. No, no,
right now, the way, unless the Pats are playing, they're
going to blow the Jets.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Out of the water.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
The thing is, though, they just just makes the football though,
did once in a row. Never mind taking the over
those game though I agree with you on that. I
think you over this one's the best bet.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
At the Jets. Score man. That run defense for the
Pats incredible.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Mm hmm to over this one, all right, commanders at
Dolphins Dolphins people favorites forty seven?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
You going to get.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Nah? Actually, I'm pretty sure I gotta work that night,
so no chance of me going to that game. Last
time I went to that game, I got fried sitting
on the Washington sideline.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Oh really yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Man, the way, when I stayed to that stadium, you
cannot be be sitting on the visitors side.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
We are the one though, huh.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I don't care if the sun is out blaring on you,
you're gonna get burnt, baby. But give me my team. Anyways,
Dolphins are due for a letdown.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
No I wanna I'm gonna ride this train, the big
wings and Bills.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
We're gonna right his train one, two, last three, they're gonna,
they're gonna, they're gonna say mcdehill's job here now. But
when you put more games in the back end, So
give me the dolphins. When this game out right, they're done, brother,
they're cooked.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
They're done. They're done. They're so cooked, all right. Panthers
at Falcons. The Falcons preappoint favorites you over under Zachs
words would happen?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Ah Christ, give me the under this game. I just
feel like this is gonna be a disappointing game all
the way.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Around, opposite to the over slow enough, let's give you
some points. Let's go all right, Buck, there's a huge
game here. Bucks at Bills. The Bills are favo favorites
you over under forty eight.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Give me the Bucks plus the points.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Unless it's a massive snowstorm going up on up there,
because I haven't checked the weather, I'm pretty sure Baker
will be able to keep them with keep them close
and maybe pull something out.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Are you not trusting the Bills here?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
No? Did you hear their name called in my top ten? No?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Hmm, okay, well I'm gonna go with the over on
this game.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Actually see not scoring on this one, actually knowing what
you know whether it is gonna be like, but I'll
take you over in this one.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
All right.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
We got Texans at Titans. The Texas at some point
favorites you over under Zach is three and a half.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
How lucky can the Texans be? And they're gonna have
any chance of stout and staving their season and continuing
to make a push for the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Perfect time to play the Titans. Give me the Texans.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Same here, Tennessee's Ah, they're just done, They're cooked. You
have a bye. I'm taking a taking Houston stroutchery back
of this game, right I ho.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
But man, hey those didn't look too bad. He had
a nice little run at the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Jack Wars like, really fucking shit on themselves last minute,
last quarter anyway, What they.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Had two freaking yards going into the last thirty seconds
of that fourth quarter was so embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Is it time to talk about Trebor Lawrence?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Sure? Uh.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
If I was a Jaguars owner, as soon as I
don't have guaranteed money, I would be drafting a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
If I can find a team gollible enough to trade
for him, I would trade him right now to the Jets.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I will I would not go so far as to
say as a flop. What I will say, though, is
that he's definitely disappointment. He's a average quarterback at elite money. Yeah, okay,
he's way or paid for what the production Gibson, he's not.
He has not matched the expectations they came to the league. Look,
we were looking at him as a generational court I remember, yeah,
(22:52):
people did. So he's not match after that first Uh, well,
he had the one bad year with urban Meyer. Was
scratch that one, of course. But then yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Don't even think that's fair to say, oh you know,
I have that one bad here with Ervin. Dude, once
you're on the field, you're the one throwing the football,
You're the one reading the defense.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
At a certain point, you can't use the coach as
you're crutch.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I agree with you on that. Well, more on that later.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
All right, we got Bears at vikings, the vikings of
people in favorites, the over unders forty eight.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Give me the Bears. Man. Caleb is cooking right now.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
So I did this on the podcast I did earlier
today I recorded, I did a segment if you had
to redraft the quarterbacks last year, you know, Drake May,
Jane Daniels and Kill Williams, how would you do it?
And honestly, I really don't know because it's still a
full discussion because Jane Danilson is still reach the higher
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ceiling of the three. So because he went to he
was a gaming from the Super Bowl and he had
a phenomenal over the year, but the injuries are in
this year now going forward, Okay, Drake May is starting
to pick up now this year.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Killed Williams the same thing.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
He came in with a lot of hype, number one pick,
and then he was coma dune last first year and
then he's.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Starting to really pick up now.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
So if you if you were to do a redraft
right now, all those three guys, who would you how would.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
You do it?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Same teams? Drafting in that order, whatever, Washington going number two?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
No, no, no, let's go in order, like who who who?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Who are the better who the better quarterbacks in that order?
And in your opinion, based on that, this team don't matter.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
It does it does for the team that drafted number
two overall fine Caleb one, May two and Daniels three.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Mm hmm. You know, is it because the injuries on
Daniels one thing els?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yes, absolutely again, you cannot keep messing games because of
lower body injuries. And as soon as you come back
saying you're healthy, taking off running and going out.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Again for weeks on end. All right, there comes a
point you gotta stop running. Awesome, your first instinct is
to run. It's not the throat.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Maybe it's because Terry McLaren hasn't been there for part
of the season, but and we don't have really a
number two.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I don't know. But if every time you drop back
within one second, your decision is to run, we got problems.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I knew there would be a rection to the mean.
I didn't think we this fucking bad. I'll say that,
but we'll give a chance. Come out next year, clean, clean, break,
HOPI is healthy. That point we'll stee happens there, all right,
Packers are giants. The Packers some point favorites over under
his Zach forty three and a.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Half oh Man.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
As the Packers can't count of this week, they're one
and done in the playoffs. If they even make it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Give me the Packers same here, especially give in the
fact that dart Mad didn't play this week anyway. I mean,
if they announced he's playing this week, that line drops
a couple points, I think. But uh, Packers, they need
to get right game. They need to get right game. Okay,
we are to be taken seriously because after those first
two weeks, they have falled the cliff in my opinion, And.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Can he be real Jackson darts on his way to
looking like r G three, You're gonna he's gonna be
done with him one year.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
If he's gonna keep running and getting hit the way
he's getting.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Hit, What's why they've all got fired. I think I
think that was part of reason he got fired, honestly,
I believe for crocussion protocols and what he hasn't played.
He hasn't played a full year. That's the worst pound.
So Packers all right. Bengals at Steelers The Steels five
half one favorites, the over under Zach forty nine.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
That first game a classic. Remember the flack Ogans Rogers
a part too.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Now, Yeah, you know what, shout out to Chris.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I'm taking the Bengals, man, really yeah, this this Steel
team is really mid.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
And Davids twice to Cincinnati. Man, Aaron, you should take
a break for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Let Rudolph come in, just so you can feel a
little fresher at the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I see a world when now if the Steel twas year,
I think Tomman's done. I see a world it's I mean,
what is that?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Because you're hoping he comes to the Giants.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I'll be right, I actually want I watched, actually want
came a Stefanski. To be honest with you, I mean,
I clear my earlier day, so I'm thinking the over
this game though, We'll be deepest a stink.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
So why not all right? Chargers at Jaguars charges people
on favorites under forty four.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Chargers, man, I mean, come on, Jackson is gonna blow it.
Even if they were in the game late, They're gonna
blow it.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And Chargers a cover.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
So I'm not even concerned, dude, Nope, t the over
this one, over this one. I don't trust Jaguars at all, don't.
I do not trust them.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
They what happened last week. I think it's gonna be
a two point if it went missed. The playoffs. That
game last week is gonna be a reason why. Honestly,
the two point that was a horrible loss. And the Chargers,
you know, they they're they're still banged up, but they're
finally ways to win games. That was a huge menas
Pittsburgh at home, very impressive. In fact, they probably swim
(28:58):
in my top ten. But I want to see a
week before you start doing that. So give me, give
me you over this one.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Though, all right, you got probably one of the games
of the week here.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Can't wait for this game. Seahawks at Rams. The Rams
on three point favorite see over under is forty eight
and a half. I'm surprised it's not three and a
half or four points because the Rams, given a well
they've been playing this year, they're actually half point or
extra point.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
So I would want to go out on the limb
and pick the Rams. But this is where I'll play,
play like I'm a little bit of a chicken shit
and I'll just take the over.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I don't blame you, I don't blame you at all,
but I'm confident the Rams they're they're healthy.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Who goads? Who Goad's healthy?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Stafford's dealing Adams is playing phenomenal to you. On top
of that, the defas is woking up. Give me the Rams.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Seattle have to prove to me. I gotta see it.
I gotta see it. If you if you're a Super
Bowl contending team, you win this game.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Didn't you have them top five?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Number four three in fact?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
And yeah, you're saying they got.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
To prove it well against the Rams because the top
two teams in the league, or the top teams in
the NFC right now are Eagles and Rams. So you
want me tak taking seriously as a Super Bowl attender,
you win this game, so give me the Rams.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Star all right?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
We got Niners at Cardinals. The Niners of two and
a half point favorites. The over under is forty eight
and a half.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
Yeah, I think all the magic and hype have washed off, Prissette.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Give me the Niners and are coming back after a
terrible game.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
M I'll take an under this one. Actually clout a
point here. Mac Jones still the quarterback? Uh, nowhere to property?
Could we just say Proppers up for a year? We're
just going this assume he's up for the year.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
We're not because he might come back week fifteen.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
For what he's playing fucking like thirteen weeks that point.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
He'll be fresh. Okay, okay, I mean like getting the
quarterback gosh off of by Man.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I guess some something to say about that. I'll say
the Owners one though. Let me under all right, we
got Ravens at Brown's. The Brown Ravens rather eight point favorites,
the over unders forty trap trap trap historically be a
trap game.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
But yeah, I wanna the I'm gonna take the over
in the game. I'm hoping Baltimore shows up, or at
least Lamar shows up.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
The thing is any other year, I would say take
the take the Browns and the points, but because they
are so bad on one side the ball, I can
see Baltimore defense making making plays on their own alone.
And then Lamar is having a Coast coast.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Of the day.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
So I'm gonna take Baltimore this one. Actually, Norman, Norman,
I wouldn't do this, but I'll say Baltimore this one
to cover. So all right, another huge game, Chiefs at Broncos.
The Chiefs are the Chiefs rather are three half one favorites.
The over under Zach is forty four.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Oh, give me the under same same.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I mean again, this is one of those where I
would actually be willing to bet Broncos and the under.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
But if I got to pick one, I'm taking the under.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, I'm with you, two walls and if the BRONXO
chants went this game, but be under. That's your strength,
that's your strength. So all right, game of the week
probably Sunday Football. I think is it two games because
only one one day?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Man, you know more than I do.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I got kids.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Hold on, I haven't even looked at these lines yet.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Oh my god, the worst. No, it's it's one game.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
It's these are all reactionary picks. I get out.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Okay, okay, these are okay, this is a sun night game. Actually,
Lions at Eagles.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
The Eagles of two and a half pint favorites over
under forty six and a half.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
That is disrespectful to the Eagles that half point going
on the way.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Man, you know what, you only scored ten freaking points
against Green Bay? Are you kidding me? Give me the
Lions real Dave Campbell. I believed Dave Campbell's gonna be
our Dan Campbell's gonna be calling players for the second time.
So yeah, give me the Lions.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Oh, I'm gonna put the Eagles this one actually because
of disrespect here alone, the old I gotta say the
lane Johns's injury.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Could be a problem, maybe.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
His problem.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Yeah, I mean they'll look good. I imaginely, I imagine
missing the one week not more so. But I was
an Eagles anyway. And finally, Mondaynight football, we have the
Cowboys at the Raiders. Cowboys pre point favorites over under
Zach is fifty.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I know, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I mean, I'm begging you to bet the over, but
you don't know. Both these teams are just trash anyways.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
So like is that the Cardinals game two against the
Cowboys begging for you over at fifty four to forty
five points, even come closely over m.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Screw it. I'll still I'll still be dumb enough to
bet the over.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I'm taking Dallas.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I'll trust dat on that night for me to be
a lot of there'll be a lot of Coway fans
in the game two.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Also if we like a home game, So.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
All right, uh, quick minute and very quick. I don't
at this point, I'm dumb. This team lose the Clemson
last week. Fuck you guys, good thoughts.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, we're going against for ginger Tech. We should be
able to beat them. Old Dominion can beat them, We
should be able to beat them.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Vot Tech is what they are. Three five we should
we should win that game. But come on, bro, bro,
long time ago? What was one time she was? Three?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
One time four five?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah? And when your logic with the past. Once upon
a time they played each other in the national title game,
so hey.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yeah, un tilly nine one times? Yeah, Chris Chris winky.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Chris Finkey versus Michaelvits the oldest.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
And Peter Ward was the MVP, wasn't heave? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
So all right, so I got uh, I'm gonna takes
you too. You know what, I don't give a ship
for su to wins. You to cover what you got sae.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Yeah, I gotta takes to win because if he loses,
just an embarrassment.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
We're not gonna fire the fucking coach.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, tell me about it, all right.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Finally, one extra topic here, Nico Harrison fired by the
Bavericks today. Uh. I had my reaction on my on
the Potter earlier. I want to let's spoor as yours.
What your are you shocked happened.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
As soon this soon, man, this is years in the making.
First off, the moment they made the announcement that actually correction,
the moment you went to ownership to say, hey, let's
trade Luca, you should have been fired, like right then
and there it told me the job was too big
(36:24):
for you and you needed to go. But when you
made once you made that trade, you should have been fired. Really,
you probably should have been fired when you let Jalen
Bronson leave all right, that you have been making horrible
mistake after a horrible mistake, after a horrible mistake. I
(36:49):
think this is where like Republicans on the right would
be like, this is what happens when you keep a
DEI higher because this guy should not have had a
job or well over a fucking year.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Again, I will say it one more time. When you
go up to ownership and you have a generational talent
who's one of the three best players in the league,
and you go, hey, I think our best chance at
leinning is to trade him, that's when he should have
been fired.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I think the president of that organization should also lose
his job. Dude, your your only ability is to run
a casino in Vegas. You don't deserve to run an
NBA franchise.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
So the error, the biggest error of all, wasn't even
trading Luca. The bigger error was was what they got
back for him. They got nothing back for him. They
got d and one for frum pick. Michael Bridges got
five for frund picks. That's why, that's.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Why the whole collusion and conspiracy theories about this, because
the Lakers and the NBA, it's I can I can
buy it. I can buy it for that reason alone,
Like like I can't understand the concern of not wanting
to pay Luca because of concerned about his.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Weight, this and that and bullsh.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Yeah, but but even so, we're gonna trade him, get
something back from him, put on up market. Teams will
give up the fucking kidneys with this guy.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, you're gonna have.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
You could have had Paolo banzero and our next five
fucking first round draft picks.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Because they gave four of them for Desmond Dan who
comes to Orlando and make a fucking three.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah, pinself on three by way, Oh bad bad, bad, bad, bad,
bad bad bad one first round pick and any neighbors
who can't stay healthy bye way, where's eighty right now?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah? That's yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
On top of a guy again, we're also forgetting he
gave what one hundred and sixty million dollars to Kyrie
Irving after he had an injury and was gonna miss
the season. Like, dude, you have every possible chance you
have had to make the right decision. You've made the
absolute worst possible decision.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
And yet yet I still think ownership is enough blame
for this, because there's knowing hell that own allow him
to trade the best player with them, okaying the fucking deal,
knowing hell.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
That is why I said Nico Harrison should have been
fired as soon as he brought it. But the president
of the organization, Dumont, whose only technical skills so far
in his entire life was running a casino, should be
out of a job as well.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I agree, talker with you bullshit. So anyway, gouch picks
this week, Zach hat trick time three in a row
for you. Huh coming up? Do you think me?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
No chance? No chance?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
I'm not you street streak ends this week? All right?
That good job. I use always.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
We'll talk to you guys too, all right, man, good luck,
good night you gotta buddy it.
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It is once again the week eleven edition of e
J Versus Degenerate, And of course we're joined here by
America's for Degenerate Zachary with us. What's up, Zach Happy
veteran day by way, oh man, thank you, yeah, by
the way, you want again this week?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Oh oh.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Hell, that's what happens from going to all those wars
and getting their ass and getting my ass beat by you.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well, we got a lot to get today in the show.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Of course, our power rankings coming in sich a second,
our best battery do every week?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Em Stryt preview. Who the places we can go for? God?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Does that matter? Our season's over?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Don't give a fuck questions. Here's the question. They do
we make a bowl game? That's the question. And who knows?
Do you want that?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I didn't care if we made a bowl game.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I wanted to beat beat Daboo Sweeny and it be
the nail in the coffin in his career there at Clemson.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I love you say. I like to say his name.
Daboo is dabbo. You go, dab boo boo, that's what
it is. Man's da boo. Oh God. And we'll get
to all that in just a second. But we're playing
Virginia Zechu giu about that game.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
But before we get there, let's go tell power rankings.
We've been doing top ten, bottom five, Zach, roll at
your bottom five?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
What you got?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh, bottom five? Worst team in all of football?
Speaker 6 (02:42):
They had the number one pick this past draft, they're
probably gonna have the number one pick this coming draft, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
M all right, thirty one, thirty one it's.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Cleveland, another team taking a whole new quarterback. And at
thirty it's gonna be vague, a whole nother team taking
a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, you see this little trajectory we got going.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And a draping no quarterback to take.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
I don't know, man, That's what they said about this
past year's And guess what giants hit hit the lot
of with their draft pick.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
That's very true, that's true.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Uh, twenty nine, at twenty nine, I've got the Jets,
and then at number twenty eight, I've got these Saints.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Wow, only because they screwed me on my money. You
were supposed to get your ass beat by Carolina and instead.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You became Sames. These same these Sames these here all right?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
No, no, in terms of like that bet not sms
of like the probably because our mind's a lot tweaked
differently than yours. Now I do have the same number
thirty two. The Tansy Titans the worst team football. You
know they they they didn't plase weekend and they're still
worst being team football.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well that thirty one though, but my boys, the Giants.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
When you considered the firing right, considering Jack the Domainian
play next week, things have want the Rails now for
this team. So thirty the Saints only they won, they
moved up a little bit. Twenty nine to Browns. They're
going backwards now, and twenty eight the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, I don't know how you.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Can say the Browns are going backwards and yet you
put them ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Of the Saints as far as true power rankings.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, but uh, Saints won their game this week also too.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, exactly, That's why the Saints should be.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Still some free back though Saints might.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Have a quarterback, they might have a franchise quarterback. They're
gonna find out.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
What are you buying on Tyler Show.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
What I'm saying is those first four teams Tennessee, Cleveland, Vegas, Jets,
they don't have a quarterback. You get to the Jets,
or I mean you get to the Saints, they got it.
They might have a quarterback. Then you look at your
team at twenty seven, the Giant they have a quarterback
of the future.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Thank god, we do well.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I mean you see healthy of course, I mean fucking
you've been a quartercall even four times.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
You already that's the only position in football that matters
going forward.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We look looking to play this week.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Good.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
He still probably played more games than Jayden Daniels has.
So what's your point?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Let me ask a question. Do you agree with the
Giants firing Medeble?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yes? And I said it to you as precisely as
I could.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
If you're going to run your quarterback intentionally, not to
mention all of his scrambles as often as you did.
I think they said they had twenty seven designed run
plays for your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Already. You're not trying to preserve your quarterback. You're trying
to get your quarterback hurt. Yeah, you can't win without
your quarterback on the field. That back in general, exactly,
it's like what we call a design run for a
guy who just came back from a hamstring injury.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah. Oh oh, you're like dan quinn um. Hum, interesting, interesting, interesting?
So all right, number ten, tell what you got at
number ten.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
I have Kansas City talk about a massive letdown this
past week.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
So yeah, well, then plays the weekend, but.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know the week before last, look right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
That lost looks bad now because about how bad Buffle
look looking at Miami this week exactly, so number ten,
I'm gonna shock you guys, probably make we'll see Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh yeah, they don't belong there. I'm sorry, I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I'm playing the long game here, but on the Boltim
Ravens here.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Really the long game where they look like ship this
past weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
It's it's it's okay. They won their game. Okay, this
is the sixth game. That's about another foign. Now on
the stretch, now, oh three, no three, the stretch. It
went through the hardest game of the stretch this Minnesota
in Minnesota, so they damon.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Going against the quarterback making his fourth start of his
career is the hardest game.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Okay. Yeah, that's that same quarterback that has beat Detroit
last week on the road. Don't give me that. Don't
give me that. No, you'll get the passes on that one. No,
hell no.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
We both expected him to have a shake game. We
literally went over it.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
And okay, I'm playing a long I'm playing a long
game here. Baltimore may not lose another game until week sixteen.
The foreign apart right now, I see their schedule and
they may nine to five before losing who they posts
the next game because New England, that's even that gets
(07:59):
Maybe we'll see, we'll but the air game better than
deman Is played much better football.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Now Lamar is back. You know the boys are back. Man,
I was gonna say the boys are back, all right,
number nine.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You got at number nine, I've got Tampa Bay. Okay,
they have already dropped on my list, but I had
other teams.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Ahead of them this week.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Tough, tough loss with those boys.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Number nine for me is Green Bay. It was tough too,
because like they could I had him. Initially, I was like,
you know what, I'm just not I don't I don't
believe this team and then banged up. You know, it's
so hot and cold week the week and look not
to say feel it was a bad loss because obviously
Philly is champs, but they had chances to win that
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game and they did not take advantage of that. That
was a fucking no score game most of the way.
They will street nothing in the middle and fourth quarter
at Lambo.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You have you don't deserve to be in the top
ten after that game. You play that bad after losing
to Carolina, I'm sorry you don't even get to be
in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
That's a good point, and I feel the new world.
It's two on top of that. So all right, number.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Eight, at number eight, I have a team that barely
moved up on my list from last week, Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I believe this is they just can't lose, no matter
how bad they play. They just don't lose. Bro.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I'm gonna piss off people off your mouth. They're not
my top ten. They're not my top ten. I understand
eight and two.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I just don't. This team is just.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I don't care how bad boad next plays, they would
still be Baltimore, Baltimore. What happens, Baltimore would have no
chance against I.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Think, promise you still you You've been so like burned
by Baltimore first couple weeks of the year that even
though they won three in a row, you're still on
the fence of this team.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So look at who they played. They played the worst
defenses in football.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I get it for me, Tampa again. They're still banged up.
And you know that game they I mean that passed
that pass the game. I thought they win that game
out a bye. But tough loss there, but it's still
a good team. I just wonder if, like, what's you're
ceiling now?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
The ceiling now? Second round now is supposed to the
conference championship or even a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I know.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I feel like certain teams NFC have pulled away now
from the pack, and Tampa's not one of them, unfortunately
for them. So all right, number seven, you got.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
At number seven.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
This team pulled out a squeaker and because of that
they bare that.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They also moved up on my list. It's the Detroit Lions.
You managed to be a practice squad team from the
DC area by twenty plus points. Congratulations. That was so low.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
But they've been kind of they've been kind of like
Jackal High this year a little bit. So I understand
that logic Number seven for me, actually he's gonna be
the Colts. A Tina knows he has sweak down to
win in uh in Europe and a game. I said
that before the week started that was a must win
for the Colts. That was a must win because they
if they lose to to Row the seventy and three
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goals in by a week playing the Chiefs after that,
there's doubts seeping in.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Now, you know, what I'm saying, but instead they won
the game. They won the game.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Look, it wasn't pretty, Atlanta's kind of Jackal the High,
but Atlanta's one of those teams that can beat any
given Sunday, and they won a game because as a
team that is capable winning against anyone in this league.
Seem Pokas need to be buffal a couple weeks ago.
So I get colt kudos here. They find a way
to win in a not very pretty game. So all right,
number six, you.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Got at number six, I've got Seattle, a team that
is but top top top ten and offense, top ten
in defense, just outstanding play.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
On both sides.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
That feels low bro.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Wait until you see the top five teams.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I'm already scared to see it now because like, who's
in there? But we'll for a second.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I think I think every one of my time five
teams could be Seattle.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I think at this point, I think anybody could be
anybody given Sunday. Though.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
That's the thing that's the that's the this season very special,
is the fact that this season is so wide open.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It feels that way anyway. Six for me, what helme?
I think though?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Six for me is the Patriots ibably get some love.
So now they have their second center winning the year,
winning in Buffalo one month ago, a month and so ago,
and now he went in Tampa.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
That's a good win.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
No, he got a soft schedule and I'm slowly buying
in by the way, for the record, all they'll talk
about Shane Styke.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
And coach of the year Coyllee Shannon coach of the year.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
I think Mike Raybills went up, went up and passed
them this week after this, after this win, Mike Raybell
was doing something really special doing right now they get
him credit.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
So all right, number five at.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Number five, I've got New England. Okay, their quarterback is
actually the number one betting favorite right now for m
v P.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I saw that. It's crazy. I don't know. I don't
know if I believe that though.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Be honestly, I think it should be Jonathan Taylor or
Matthew Stafford before him. But I prick maas in coversation.
I agree should be in a conversation, but I'm like,
you should be the betting.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Favorite New England. Money man, I get it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Five for me though? Is Detroit again?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
This is a team that still figure things out a
little bit, you know. Uh, but you know they beat
your boys way you're supposed to. The probably should be
been so the same way to last week, but they.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Probably should have. That's why they're not in the top five.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Agree, and I see why this is this. There's some
things they're concerned me with Detroit forward. But we'll see
this game, got Philadelphia coming up, Well, we'll watch. We'll
be in our best bets. We'll say a lot going forward.
But out apply for me.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Four. Who you got at number four? A team that
wasn't even in my top ten last week? The Chargers.
It is about time to give them the love they deserve.
All the big wins they've had, you've got to give them,
give them their respects.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, I oh, another team that promised my top ten.
Not there should surprised you. I do have a I
have an AC West team them before no charges though
it is the can't see Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah that's a sphrase. I'm five and four. You are
just betting on the last few years.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I bet that's free years an the future. Who I've
been on trust.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
People say, well, give me a football reason, Well, I
don't think your football reason to whit trust, that's it,
just little bit it.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Yeah, they played like shit this year, but hey man,
you know what they did in twenty eighteen they.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Won exactly exactly Je Rakings, that's acts.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, I go by this season.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
But that's boring though, that's boring. You know, it's trust.
I trust this team. I mean, oh, by the way,
I know you've seen. We'll get to the second. But
Casey on the road his favorite as Denver. What a
record so Vegas gives me also too?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
All right, you got at number three. I've got a
far quarterback from the New York Giants. I've got Indiana
Jones with the actual MVP of the league.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
That part, Dothan Taylor John that part I agree with
you on there.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Let's say, guest seventeen touchdowns down.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Ship, he's around, he's scoring and skipping, sipping.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I think it's four games now with three touchdowns, all right.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Every time same he's skipping and scoring. So he's he's
very very active.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Three for me though, is DC Yawks. I still questioned
their super Bowl contender. But the more Seawie week is
like the winning the games, I guess the team's supposed
to be supposed to beat down like Arizona, the winning
when you're supposed to like it was weird seeing them
only six point favorite against the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, there's optics. I think going to the smash the
word for the world.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Go.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
That's that's something to me. That's that's a lot to
he said there. So that big game is the MSAS week.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Can't wait for Okay, wait for that game because we
have really big games this week after coming up.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
So all right, two add.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Number two the La Rams and he just went by
the last five games for this season. They should probably
be number one.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
And but my god, Matthew Stafford looks like he can
play another five years if he wanted.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Twenty five touchdowns two interceptions. Oh you're okay?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, I think he's got twenty touchdowns and his last five.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, it's insane how good he is.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I also have the reps number two, and there's an
argue for number one, but unfortunate number one.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
They lost to exactly, so the Eagles number one, right,
you go, you two.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
His thing.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's not pretty, but his thing.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
They're champs and they're gonna get your boy's best shot
every week. So you gotta bake that in They're finding
ways to win no matter what. That's all that matters.
Two champions due and I hate saying that, but god,
that's so good. So anyway, Zachary, let's get your best bets.
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We got two buys this week, only two the Colts
in the Saints. Who who needs to buy more?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
In your opinion?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh? Man, the Colts need it. Tonathan Taylor needs a rest.
Let him. He'll love. He's taking a few bruises along
the way the last ten games.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I agree, I agree, I definitely get it. I think
at the right time, you can recalibrate your eight. That's
why that This is why that win against Atlanta was huge.
You can recalibrate now you're eight and two, feeling good
about things though. Okay, you come back after buy against
k C and how you make you make you a
sense now.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
To win number one. So that's a huge, huge win
flo him. That's why.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
That's why said they was they almost win with the goals.
So all right, here we go Thursday night, Zach. You
got Jets at Patriots. The Pats are thirteen point favorites
the over under Zach, it's forty three and a half.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Game in the Pats all right, they're gonna smoke this team.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I know it's a division game and you're gonna be like, oh,
you know they always play each others out. No, no,
right now, the way, unless the Pats are playing, they're
going to blow the Jets.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Out of the water.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
The thing is, though, they just just makes the football though,
did once in a row. Never mind taking the over
those game though I agree with you on that. I
think you over this one's the best bet.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
At the Jets. Score man. That run defense for the
Pats incredible.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Mm hmm to over this one, all right, commanders at
Dolphins Dolphins people favorites forty seven?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
You going to get.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Nah? Actually, I'm pretty sure I gotta work that night,
so no chance of me going to that game. Last
time I went to that game, I got fried sitting
on the Washington sideline.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Oh really yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Man, the way, when I stayed to that stadium, you
cannot be be sitting on the visitors side.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
We are the one though, huh.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I don't care if the sun is out blaring on you,
you're gonna get burnt, baby. But give me my team. Anyways,
Dolphins are due for a letdown.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
No I wanna I'm gonna ride this train, the big
wings and Bills.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
We're gonna right his train one, two, last three, they're gonna,
they're gonna, they're gonna say mcdehill's job here now. But
when you put more games in the back end, So
give me the dolphins. When this game out right, they're done, brother,
they're cooked.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
They're done. They're done. They're so cooked, all right. Panthers
at Falcons. The Falcons preappoint favorites you over under Zachs
words would happen?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Ah Christ, give me the under this game. I just
feel like this is gonna be a disappointing game all
the way.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Around, opposite to the over slow enough, let's give you
some points. Let's go all right, Buck, there's a huge
game here. Bucks at Bills. The Bills are favo favorites
you over under forty eight.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Give me the Bucks plus the points.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Unless it's a massive snowstorm going up on up there,
because I haven't checked the weather, I'm pretty sure Baker
will be able to keep them with keep them close
and maybe pull something out.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Are you not trusting the Bills here?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
No? Did you hear their name called in my top ten? No?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Hmm, okay, well I'm gonna go with the over on
this game.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Actually see not scoring on this one, actually knowing what
you know whether it is gonna be like, but I'll
take you over in this one.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
All right.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
We got Texans at Titans. The Texas at some point
favorites you over under Zach is three and a half.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
How lucky can the Texans be? And they're gonna have
any chance of stout and staving their season and continuing
to make a push for the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Perfect time to play the Titans. Give me the Texans.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Same here, Tennessee's Ah, they're just done, They're cooked. You
have a bye. I'm taking a taking Houston stroutchery back
of this game, right I ho.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
But man, hey those didn't look too bad. He had
a nice little run at the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Jack Wars like, really fucking shit on themselves last minute,
last quarter anyway, What they.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Had two freaking yards going into the last thirty seconds
of that fourth quarter was so embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Is it time to talk about Trebor Lawrence?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Sure? Uh.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
If I was a Jaguars owner, as soon as I
don't have guaranteed money, I would be drafting a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
If I can find a team gollible enough to trade
for him, I would trade him right now to the Jets.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I will I would not go so far as to
say as a flop. What I will say, though, is
that he's definitely disappointment. He's a average quarterback at elite money. Yeah, okay,
he's way or paid for what the production Gibson, he's not.
He has not matched the expectations they came to the league. Look,
we were looking at him as a generational court I remember, yeah,
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people did. So he's not match after that first Uh, well,
he had the one bad year with urban Meyer. Was
scratch that one, of course. But then yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Don't even think that's fair to say, oh you know,
I have that one bad here with Ervin. Dude, once
you're on the field, you're the one throwing the football,
You're the one reading the defense.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
At a certain point, you can't use the coach as
you're crutch.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I agree with you on that. Well, more on that later.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
All right, we got Bears at vikings, the vikings of
people in favorites, the over unders forty eight.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Give me the Bears. Man. Caleb is cooking right now.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
So I did this on the podcast I did earlier
today I recorded, I did a segment if you had
to redraft the quarterbacks last year, you know, Drake May,
Jane Daniels and Kill Williams, how would you do it?
And honestly, I really don't know because it's still a
full discussion because Jane Danilson is still reach the higher
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ceiling of the three. So because he went to he
was a gaming from the Super Bowl and he had
a phenomenal over the year, but the injuries are in
this year now going forward, Okay, Drake May is starting
to pick up now this year.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Killed Williams the same thing.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
He came in with a lot of hype, number one pick,
and then he was coma dune last first year and
then he's.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Starting to really pick up now.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
So if you if you were to do a redraft
right now, all those three guys, who would you how would.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
You do it?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Same teams? Drafting in that order, whatever, Washington going number two?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
No, no, no, let's go in order, like who who who?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Who are the better who the better quarterbacks in that order?
And in your opinion, based on that, this team don't matter.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
It does it does for the team that drafted number
two overall fine Caleb one, May two and Daniels three.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Mm hmm. You know, is it because the injuries on
Daniels one thing els?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yes, absolutely again, you cannot keep messing games because of
lower body injuries. And as soon as you come back
saying you're healthy, taking off running and going out.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Again for weeks on end. All right, there comes a
point you gotta stop running. Awesome, your first instinct is
to run. It's not the throat.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Maybe it's because Terry McLaren hasn't been there for part
of the season, but and we don't have really a
number two.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I don't know. But if every time you drop back
within one second, your decision is to run, we got problems.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I knew there would be a rection to the mean.
I didn't think we this fucking bad. I'll say that,
but we'll give a chance. Come out next year, clean, clean, break,
HOPI is healthy. That point we'll stee happens there, all right,
Packers are giants. The Packers some point favorites over under
his Zach forty three and a.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Half oh Man.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
As the Packers can't count of this week, they're one
and done in the playoffs. If they even make it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Give me the Packers same here, especially give in the
fact that dart Mad didn't play this week anyway. I mean,
if they announced he's playing this week, that line drops
a couple points, I think. But uh, Packers, they need
to get right game. They need to get right game. Okay,
we are to be taken seriously because after those first
two weeks, they have falled the cliff in my opinion, And.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Can he be real Jackson darts on his way to
looking like r G three, You're gonna he's gonna be
done with him one year.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
If he's gonna keep running and getting hit the way
he's getting.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Hit, What's why they've all got fired. I think I
think that was part of reason he got fired, honestly,
I believe for crocussion protocols and what he hasn't played.
He hasn't played a full year. That's the worst pound.
So Packers all right. Bengals at Steelers The Steels five
half one favorites, the over under Zach forty nine.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
That first game a classic. Remember the flack Ogans Rogers
a part too.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Now, Yeah, you know what, shout out to Chris.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I'm taking the Bengals, man, really yeah, this this Steel
team is really mid.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
And Davids twice to Cincinnati. Man, Aaron, you should take
a break for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Let Rudolph come in, just so you can feel a
little fresher at the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I see a world when now if the Steel twas year,
I think Tomman's done. I see a world it's I mean,
what is that?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Because you're hoping he comes to the Giants.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I'll be right, I actually want I watched, actually want
came a Stefanski. To be honest with you, I mean,
I clear my earlier day, so I'm thinking the over
this game though, We'll be deepest a stink.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
So why not all right? Chargers at Jaguars charges people
on favorites under forty four.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Chargers, man, I mean, come on, Jackson is gonna blow it.
Even if they were in the game late, They're gonna
blow it.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And Chargers a cover.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
So I'm not even concerned, dude, Nope, t the over
this one, over this one. I don't trust Jaguars at all, don't.
I do not trust them.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
They what happened last week. I think it's gonna be
a two point if it went missed. The playoffs. That
game last week is gonna be a reason why. Honestly,
the two point that was a horrible loss. And the Chargers,
you know, they they're they're still banged up, but they're
finally ways to win games. That was a huge menas
Pittsburgh at home, very impressive. In fact, they probably swim
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in my top ten. But I want to see a
week before you start doing that. So give me, give
me you over this one.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Though, all right, you got probably one of the games
of the week here.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Can't wait for this game. Seahawks at Rams. The Rams
on three point favorite see over under is forty eight
and a half. I'm surprised it's not three and a
half or four points because the Rams, given a well
they've been playing this year, they're actually half point or
extra point.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
So I would want to go out on the limb
and pick the Rams. But this is where I'll play,
play like I'm a little bit of a chicken shit
and I'll just take the over.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I don't blame you, I don't blame you at all,
but I'm confident the Rams they're they're healthy.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Who goads? Who Goad's healthy?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Stafford's dealing Adams is playing phenomenal to you. On top
of that, the defas is woking up. Give me the Rams.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Seattle have to prove to me. I gotta see it.
I gotta see it. If you if you're a Super
Bowl contending team, you win this game.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Didn't you have them top five?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Number four three in fact?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
And yeah, you're saying they got.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
To prove it well against the Rams because the top
two teams in the league, or the top teams in
the NFC right now are Eagles and Rams. So you
want me tak taking seriously as a Super Bowl attender,
you win this game, so give me the Rams.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Star all right?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
We got Niners at Cardinals. The Niners of two and
a half point favorites. The over under is forty eight
and a half.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
Yeah, I think all the magic and hype have washed off, Prissette.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Give me the Niners and are coming back after a
terrible game.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
M I'll take an under this one. Actually clout a
point here. Mac Jones still the quarterback? Uh, nowhere to property?
Could we just say Proppers up for a year? We're
just going this assume he's up for the year.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
We're not because he might come back week fifteen.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
For what he's playing fucking like thirteen weeks that point.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
He'll be fresh. Okay, okay, I mean like getting the
quarterback gosh off of by Man.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I guess some something to say about that. I'll say
the Owners one though. Let me under all right, we
got Ravens at Brown's. The Brown Ravens rather eight point favorites,
the over unders forty trap trap trap historically be a
trap game.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
But yeah, I wanna the I'm gonna take the over
in the game. I'm hoping Baltimore shows up, or at
least Lamar shows up.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
The thing is any other year, I would say take
the take the Browns and the points, but because they
are so bad on one side the ball, I can
see Baltimore defense making making plays on their own alone.
And then Lamar is having a Coast coast.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Of the day.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
So I'm gonna take Baltimore this one. Actually, Norman, Norman,
I wouldn't do this, but I'll say Baltimore this one
to cover. So all right, another huge game, Chiefs at Broncos.
The Chiefs are the Chiefs rather are three half one favorites.
The over under Zach is forty four.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Oh, give me the under same same.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I mean again, this is one of those where I
would actually be willing to bet Broncos and the under.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
But if I got to pick one, I'm taking the under.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, I'm with you, two walls and if the BRONXO
chants went this game, but be under. That's your strength,
that's your strength. So all right, game of the week
probably Sunday Football. I think is it two games because
only one one day?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Man, you know more than I do.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I got kids.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Hold on, I haven't even looked at these lines yet.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Oh my god, the worst. No, it's it's one game.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
It's these are all reactionary picks. I get out.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Okay, okay, these are okay, this is a sun night game. Actually,
Lions at Eagles.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
The Eagles of two and a half pint favorites over
under forty six and a half.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
That is disrespectful to the Eagles that half point going
on the way.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Man, you know what, you only scored ten freaking points
against Green Bay? Are you kidding me? Give me the
Lions real Dave Campbell. I believed Dave Campbell's gonna be
our Dan Campbell's gonna be calling players for the second time.
So yeah, give me the Lions.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Oh, I'm gonna put the Eagles this one actually because
of disrespect here alone, the old I gotta say the
lane Johns's injury.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Could be a problem, maybe.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
His problem.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Yeah, I mean they'll look good. I imaginely, I imagine
missing the one week not more so. But I was
an Eagles anyway. And finally, Mondaynight football, we have the
Cowboys at the Raiders. Cowboys pre point favorites over under
Zach is fifty.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I know, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I mean, I'm begging you to bet the over, but
you don't know. Both these teams are just trash anyways.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
So like is that the Cardinals game two against the
Cowboys begging for you over at fifty four to forty
five points, even come closely over m.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Screw it. I'll still I'll still be dumb enough to
bet the over.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I'm taking Dallas.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I'll trust dat on that night for me to be
a lot of there'll be a lot of Coway fans
in the game two.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Also if we like a home game, So.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
All right, uh, quick minute and very quick. I don't
at this point, I'm dumb. This team lose the Clemson
last week. Fuck you guys, good thoughts.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, we're going against for ginger Tech. We should be
able to beat them. Old Dominion can beat them, We
should be able to beat them.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Vot Tech is what they are. Three five we should
we should win that game. But come on, bro, bro,
long time ago? What was one time she was? Three?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
One time four five?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah? And when your logic with the past. Once upon
a time they played each other in the national title game,
so hey.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yeah, un tilly nine one times? Yeah, Chris Chris winky.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Chris Finkey versus Michaelvits the oldest.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
And Peter Ward was the MVP, wasn't heave? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
So all right, so I got uh, I'm gonna takes
you too. You know what, I don't give a ship
for su to wins. You to cover what you got sae.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Yeah, I gotta takes to win because if he loses,
just an embarrassment.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
We're not gonna fire the fucking coach.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, tell me about it, all right.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Finally, one extra topic here, Nico Harrison fired by the
Bavericks today. Uh. I had my reaction on my on
the Potter earlier. I want to let's spoor as yours.
What your are you shocked happened.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
As soon this soon, man, this is years in the making.
First off, the moment they made the announcement that actually correction,
the moment you went to ownership to say, hey, let's
trade Luca, you should have been fired, like right then
and there it told me the job was too big
(36:24):
for you and you needed to go. But when you
made once you made that trade, you should have been fired. Really,
you probably should have been fired when you let Jalen
Bronson leave all right, that you have been making horrible
mistake after a horrible mistake, after a horrible mistake. I
(36:49):
think this is where like Republicans on the right would
be like, this is what happens when you keep a
DEI higher because this guy should not have had a
job or well over a fucking year.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Again, I will say it one more time. When you
go up to ownership and you have a generational talent
who's one of the three best players in the league,
and you go, hey, I think our best chance at
leinning is to trade him, that's when he should have
been fired.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I think the president of that organization should also lose
his job. Dude, your your only ability is to run
a casino in Vegas. You don't deserve to run an
NBA franchise.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
So the error, the biggest error of all, wasn't even
trading Luca. The bigger error was was what they got
back for him. They got nothing back for him. They
got d and one for frum pick. Michael Bridges got
five for frund picks. That's why, that's.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Why the whole collusion and conspiracy theories about this, because
the Lakers and the NBA, it's I can I can
buy it. I can buy it for that reason alone,
Like like I can't understand the concern of not wanting
to pay Luca because of concerned about his.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Weight, this and that and bullsh.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Yeah, but but even so, we're gonna trade him, get
something back from him, put on up market. Teams will
give up the fucking kidneys with this guy.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, you're gonna have.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
You could have had Paolo banzero and our next five
fucking first round draft picks.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Because they gave four of them for Desmond Dan who
comes to Orlando and make a fucking three.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah, pinself on three by way, Oh bad bad, bad, bad, bad,
bad bad bad one first round pick and any neighbors
who can't stay healthy bye way, where's eighty right now?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah? That's yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
On top of a guy again, we're also forgetting he
gave what one hundred and sixty million dollars to Kyrie
Irving after he had an injury and was gonna miss
the season. Like, dude, you have every possible chance you
have had to make the right decision. You've made the
absolute worst possible decision.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
And yet yet I still think ownership is enough blame
for this, because there's knowing hell that own allow him
to trade the best player with them, okaying the fucking deal,
knowing hell.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
That is why I said Nico Harrison should have been
fired as soon as he brought it. But the president
of the organization, Dumont, whose only technical skills so far
in his entire life was running a casino, should be
out of a job as well.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I agree, talker with you bullshit. So anyway, gouch picks
this week, Zach hat trick time three in a row
for you. Huh coming up? Do you think me?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
No chance? No chance?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
I'm not you street streak ends this week? All right?
That good job. I use always.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
We'll talk to you guys too, all right, man, good luck,
good night you gotta buddy it.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Later, later,
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