October 29, 2025 • 39 mins
Earnest ‘EJ’ Christian and Zack ‘The Degenerate discuss the return of their NFL Week 9 Power Ten/Bottom Five Power Rankings, their BEST BETS for Week 9, and preview Florida State vs. Wake Forest in this week’s ‘FSU Minute’.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Breeze, earnestly speaking.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Leaving eli as podcasts once again, It is the week
nine edition of e J Versus the Degenerates, and of
course joined here by Our America's food degenerate.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Shoty, my fairite degenerate. You know he's getting his ass
whooped this shirt on O picks. Zachary wants up, body.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Dude, did you even lose the fucking game.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Last week I hit uh, I was like eleven others
fifty fourteen games like, I don't know quick course of that?
Hold on, I had one, two, three, four, six, Yeah
I only got three. No, dude, you're right two games wrong?
One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And did you bet any spreads or did you play
all pussy?
Speaker 7 (01:55):
I played all pussy on my line. And guess what
I hit most of the games is for one? One
game fucked me. Well, I guess the game?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh man off and I got it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, wait, you like the Ravens game, and you were
liking the Atlanta game, but that.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Game thought game either a party?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's the Giants.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
No, come on, bro, come on, I was right that
almost correct about it. Actually know the Jets the Bengals
and knowing that they were up at fourteen to fourth quarter, bro,
so I would have made money. So whatever, I went
again this week.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
So this week we're going to actually, going forward, we're
gonna do some some old school, something old we should
do back to day.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
We're gonna start adding it to the show.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Now going forward, we're gonna bring back our weekly power
rankings now, you guys remember this.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Podcast we just back and back in the day.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
You're going way back to year one of the show,
when we do doing the show back in your old house,
back in freaking village, back in the day we were
doing power rankings every week and debating that stuff. It
won't be as long. We're just touching it a little.
We're gonna do a top ten bottom of five every week.
Will this run through five bot five quickly, cond debate
bottom five a quick and then we'll go top ten
(03:08):
each each week in this compared compare it, and then
of course we'll do our picks, and then we'll do
the man course back in the show, Zachary, since you were,
of course to guests here, give me your bottom five
this week, Teams twenty three to two.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Run all five down.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So you want me to start at twenty eight or
start with thirty two?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
What do you want to do? You want to do?
What what we're doing?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'm starting with thirty the worst team, the thirty second.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Words, okay, tights with you with you thirty two as
well for me?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Then I'm want to go jets.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Oh, I have seen I have seen thirty one.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
Actually, after that performance, by I'm like, okay, yeah, get
back to the bottom of the two.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I mean I could easily switch. I mean thirty is
the Saint.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So thirty I have the Raiders. You don't even play
this weekend? Damn yeah yeah, yeah. See the jetsman competitive
in their games, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, they've also had games where their quarterback was so
horrible they had zero chance.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Ever if that, if they had even a average offense,
they have two three wins on the bord already.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, they could have maybe stolen the Steeler game to
start the season.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But yep, so thirty other Raiders, twenty one you got.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
At twenty nine, I got the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Okay, so when when when the pocket there? So twenty
nine haf the Jets and then twenty eight? Who do
you have?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Miami?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So do I? So we have put the same The
five was easy that the bottom five very week now,
the last two week has been pretty easy for me.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
So these are clearly the worst things of football. Clearly
the only team I think you can make a case
for really outside these five, really Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
But Cleveland competitive though, and they're.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Two defense but zero offense, right, but football.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
They beat Green Bay, They beat who else they beat
this year? They have two wins this year. They beat
somebody else this year for Cody beat.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Uh they yeah, they want two games to beat the
Was it with Flaco though, No, No, was it with
Flaco thing when that game? No, they wanted with Flacco
against green Bay? Green Bay?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And then they won another game. I thought, yeah, remember
that was not important because no one one's talking about
it was that Miami, Yes, Miami. Correct, that was the blowout? Yeah,
that was that was it.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
I don't mean ship, but the way they want to
beat Penny Passes, I will say that. So all right,
is it the top ten?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
All right?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Number ten for me?
Speaker 7 (05:39):
I had the Buffalo Bills. I gotta see more, brother,
gotta see more. I gotta see some quality wins. Look
great bounce back against Carolina. I love it, but I
gotta see more.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You got ten.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So it was a toss up between the Bills, m
H and the end.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I decided to take the team that beat them and
leaves the division New England.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I'm slowly I'm buying in. Finally they're my ten.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I find me my ten first time this week, the
first time this year. I'm buying in on the on
the pets. That that's uh yeah that I like that one.
And Drake May is really really starting to uh grow
on me now too. Also, uh number nine, I have
a Seattle Seahawks going to buy this week. Obviously they are.
They've been very impressive, Sam Darnold an underrated MVP candidate.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So I got see number nine.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You got nom nine Seattle.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
There you go, brother, and quite possibly the favorite win
the AMC West now based on the injuries, Like if
the Rams don't get Pooka back soon, I could see
the ale in the division.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Oh yeah, I can see him get getting so far
out and they don't fall back.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
I knowing that Zach, we might be in a place
right now through eight weeks that we might already know
the seven playoff teams. Now I think we're in the place,
so we we I think, what if I told you
right now the seve playoff team right now this year? Okay,
division winners Philly with the when when's the Philly? When's
the uh the East? Detroit wins the North or Green
(07:07):
Bay whenever, uh, Atlanta, Tampa wins it definitely in the South,
and then either combination of Rams to win the West Okay,
those two teams in the West, that's that's you know,
those two teams they have Green Bay or Detroit. That's
two for six teams. And then the seventh team will
come out come around, and the seven team is probably
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
A combination of.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Who they San Fran if they get help.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Stan Fran maybe one or Chicago maybe if they fall together.
I don't trust them, but you know, yeah, I think
we I think we have idea who the sixth the
six teams in the NMC are maybe it maybe a
sneinaky seventh team San Francisco get healthy.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah, that's it done in a discussion. All right, Remember
eight for me the Patriots. I got a Patriot number eight.
That's that's where I had the Pats. Uh again, an
impressive six to start first place names the East.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So who for you number eight?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And the right for me is the Rams. I feel
like the only thing that is keeping them so low
on this list is really the health of the of
their weapons.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
But if everyone's healthy, they are scary.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
They're scary on defense, absolutely, they're scary on offense.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So and I feel like you know that race for
number two.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Look, we remember we're saying for the first couple of years,
a couple weeks, best team in the in the East
is probably an MC rather's funny Eagles.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's not so clear anymore.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
There's no clear top team in the NMC, and it's
only no clear top top two teams in MC. I
think it's like the case we made for I think three,
three or four teams sort of top spot right.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Now based on a plane. So which is fun of course.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
Uh, one of those teams who has a case is
just number seven for me, Tampa Taps.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, I agree, I have on the spot higher. I
put Denver there at seven. They were a little more consistent,
they would be higher on this list. But man, when
you have to wait to the fourth quarter multiple games,
granted you did pull up both those victories.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
I mean to be to be thar of them to also,
they have not looked back since that that that fourth
quarter against the Giants. And when I say look back,
meaning the offense will anything else, the defense will question
the best probably in football, but it was the offensive
worried about could the offensive pull away? If that comes
all together going forward, now, situation with the AMC, where
maybe they were entering the conversation with Superowl contenders because
(09:27):
their defense is fantastic, you know, I mean so, so
you had uh at Temple seven, you had Denver seven,
yea temp yeah, Tempa six?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Right? Yeah, yeah, have the Rams at six.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Okay, Baker Mayfield, he's got to be a top five
MVP candidate with every five the top two or three.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Uh, that's up for debate too.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
But Jonathan Taylor number one right now? Obviously what's that
Jonathan Tani number one? Obviously Jonathan Taylor in Indie. And
then that for me is a Baker Bakes number two
for me. So yeah, okay, so no sex for me?
Was the Rams, Like I told you, Stafford. Look, if
they're healthy, they are the they are the biggest threat
(10:11):
to win the to the Eagles in the NFC. I
believe still because I think that that quarterbacks full top
of cork in the league. That was weapons and the
defense is really good.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Still.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Look, they gave Way that San Fran game weeks ago,
but I think Alter the Rams were on a long
playing game, long play team. They've been to the Super Bowl,
they make deep runs in the playoffs, so I trust them.
Uh five, you said six, right? Sex Stamp of right,
you said. Yeah, Five for me is the Packers, great
winning Pittsburgh. You still want to see more.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Because they it kind of feels like that, it doesn't
it feel like they have like more than one loss.
You know, the don't have one loss, but I feel
like the Packs have more to one loss.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, I mean they have that disappointing time, but I
mean that that really should have been win for them,
if not for the best fall.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, I aree with you on that. I agree with
him that who's fire for you?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That Five for me is the Lions.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Wow, that feel.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Amazing football like, but still you almost have to look
at who they have been playing and beating.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
In that case. That case, he loss was kind of
a that's a tough one. Yeah, yeah, I agree, I
agree with that part. But there was fuelow though.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
I feel like I feel like if you ask right
now what the snap call the best team MC, I
probably Detroy, but it's not by much, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But you know you still gonna proved to me, all right?
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Four for me is the Eagles and again, I mean, look,
the Giants win was Let's be real that I want
make an excuses here because they don't want to give anyway,
but the refereason didn't make that an easier. They took
away fourteen points of the Giants in that game.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
So they maybe now on a national broadcast like that
where you get to see a fumble get taken away,
maybe they're gonna do something about this touch push.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
I think I think it's the first massive case of
what being put away because now if you can't get
this right, but it was blatantly obvious, it wasn't down.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You know, that's a problem. That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
All right, Four for you, we got Four for me
is Philly, all right.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
All right? Three for me is Detroit. Like I said,
I feel like they're they're probably the best team NC,
but it's not by much. If there's a game interesting them,
the Rams and and Detroit, Detroit Rams and the Eagles.
You know, but I think Philadelpia higher power is part
of better team because they've they've done more, obviously, but
they seem kind of sluggish. So but Detroit right now,
the best high of power is so far through eight weeks.
(12:40):
All right, Three for you, Three for me is Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Mmmmm, though that Cleveland game where.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't even think their head was in the game
for it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Then they would be under They would be easily the
best team in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Yeah, Like I'm yeah, it's funny because they have the
best because right now the playoff all today, then in
the one seed.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, and they they to me, they've had the two
of the biggest wins on the season.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, the Detroit went obviously, yes, and then I guess
in Pittsburgh too. So yeah, but you know, vision you know.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
It's not that good, to be honest, you and I
think the Ravens come up with a division, but that's
that's the new They're there, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Two for me is the Colts.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Two for me is Kansas City man.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
All right, So I got numb one Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Then I mean again, to me, it's more when I
when I say Casey number one, I recognized Indie's playing better.
When I put Keystamber one, it's more of the long play.
I trust them more. Okay, the Colts are playing the
best football right now in the league. However, they're not
a team that's been in this in this space, you know,
(13:55):
in the last five or six years. You don't get
to cut the line. That's because you you have a
sumlar record. The Chiefs have earned this to be, to
earn the right to be to to have faith in
even though they start zero to two. You know, the
Eagles earned that, earned that respect. The Detroit line earn
that respect. You're the fucking Colts. You gotta do more
to earn it. However, you are number two in the AFC.
(14:15):
You all playing the best. I will also say that
at this point outside of the Chiefs right now, they
are clearly the best in the conference. Like I will
take over Buffalo, I will take them over, Uh, gonna
be done with the year. I'll take them over for now,
Baltimore now, and so get together. They are the most complete.
They are probably the most complete team in football right now.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Look, right now, I don't see any team who they
stepped down the field and he would lose too.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Also, they're not cutting the line. Guess who gets the
one seed right now? It's the Colts.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Everybody lines up behind them. They get home field advantage
for everything right now. So you have to record in
the top ten list who is playing the best currently,
not from last year, since twenty eighteen, but right.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now, Zachary, you know how these ranks WI come with me?
You know, I take a lot of things in consideration
when I do the rankings, and not just to hearing now.
And it's boring, you know what's boring for me to
do that?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Bro Okay, So you're gonna have to explain how you
put green Bay or I mean put the lines ahead
of green Bay.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They lost at the head last time I checked, I
got on the second round.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Last I have I have some I have some trust
issues with the packers right now, dude, I really did
I do? That's probably why. So all right, let's get
right picks.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
The week we got s we got four buyers this
week we have the Browns, the Jacks, the Eagles and
the Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Of these four teams, who need it more?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh man, it's the Buccaneers they got They need a
week where they don't lose anybody on the field and
maybe someone gets healthy.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
They could use another weapon getting healthy.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
They they are banged the hell up obviously with you know,
off the linemen and receivers out. So then I agree
with you there definitely the Buccaneers, Eagles. You know, age
Browns hamstring.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Was out this week. They gave Doumble week Regod.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
But it's definitely Buccaneers, I mean, especially we make their
run for the top scene NFC.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So I agree with you that one, all right, if
it's their picks, all right. First game we have the
Thursday night game. We have Ravens at Dolphins. Their Ravens
are eight point favorites over under it's fifty one. Zach,
what you got.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm gonna go real chickeny and just take the over.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I am too. I am too because I know, first off, look,
I expect Lamar to play this game. But we also
said that last week on the show and then like
they pulled the plug, pulled the rug on the road
saying that Lamar's out, but it s took out that
the win he needed. And but for the record, I
think I do think they will win win the division.
I think they will come back. Pittsburg has not pulled away,
and after I saw on Sunday, I don't trust him.
(17:00):
The Bengals think, and the Browns on the Browns.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So the Bengals think just because they lost to the Jets,
they put up thirty eight points against a good defense.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
That's my point though, because they can do that and
that's my whole point. They will do that, so I
don't trust them and Baltimore wolf gel together. They get
guys back now and not for enough in the defense
play better last four weeks, so maybe they start They
finally finally found the find the way to uh get
that old organized, plug those holes and the Lamar gets
(17:31):
back this weekend. All is all good. So over as
well too. All right, speak of those Bengals. We've got
Bears at Bengals. Uh the Bears right now to that
one favorite two over under Zac is fifty two and
a half.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I gotta believe the Bears will get their offense in
line going against this Bengals defense. Maybe Flaco was just
another one hit won, or he was one man for Cleveland,
one man for Cincinnati, and maybe he gets traded but
before never number fourth, so you can have a third
win for a third franchise.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
So he's going on you on Cincinnati.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
I'm going to the Bears on Bears.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Okay, Okay, I would too. They need to win by way.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
That that lost to Baltimore was a big letdown for
me because that because number one, if you the Bears,
you buried the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
One, you buried.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
The Ravens were good, but also you now put some
because just whitch went out, you're five and two and
now you're probably in that spot to get that wildcard.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I mean, we discussed on only podcasts and number seventh spot.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Are there to be in five and two because that's
what happened last year there were four and two help
and everything went down hill.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
But we could agree with kill Bills the better quarterback
this year any was last year? Maybe? I guess. Oh,
I think, so okay, there we go.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
So I mean, I don't know, man, that that letdown
for the Beers, But I'm gonna go over this one
actually too, because I think these depends are pretty man,
So you need over in this one. All right, We
got Vikings at Lions. The Lions are nine point favorites,
the over under forty time of it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So he basically have to assume JJ McCarthy is playing
this week?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Right, What what in the fuck is one of that situation?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, you gave him two games.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Basically, he pulled a miracle in on Monday night, then
has a bad game, then gets hurt, and all of
a sudden you were gonna write him off for the season.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, I don't get what's going on there. Wait, have
they flown town on the home mcarfee thing?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Is that what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It kind of feels that way.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But you know, so many teams are overreacting on these
young quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He's played on three games with them, if that.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Three total games, not even finished the third game.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
But they're seeing something in practice maybe is why they're
doing this. They're seeing something. Boy, are they regretting between
you know, letting go Sam Darnold?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Huh? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I had him for thirty million.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yep from bargain too.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So I'm taking the Lions.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
I think the lines will blow up. So who I
don't know who the quarterback is. I mean mcarthy might
be the quarterback, but that doesn't really help you much.
Kidsn't played in weeks.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Detroit. I'll fly to on top of that nine points.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I feel I'm stealing money here with Detroit, honestly so
even Detroity won this game in cover easy and nine.
All right, we got Panthers at Packers. The Packers are
thirteen point favorites. The over under Zach is forty four
and a half.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I gotta believe this past weekend was I get right,
get everything lined up, green ball, just calm out and
destroy the Panthers. Whether Brian Shon comes back, actually I
really hope he comes back.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
For the way Andy Dalton looked, this has got to
be his last season in the league.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, me too. I'm going Packers, well,
I think, uh there and do a easy win. I
gotta say easy opponent. I don't know if it really
helps perception of them going forward for me because I
got to see another big win that gets a good opponent.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
But Jordan Love is enough nothing. Jordan Love probably his
best game of his career this past Sunday. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
People won't say the Dallas game was, but to go
into Pittsburgh, and let's been real, Going in Dallas is
one thing, but everybody went in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's not impressive to me.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Going to Pittsburgh and in that environment on Sunday football,
that's a little more impressive than me. And I know
Stield Damons as bad this year, but to do that
in Pittsburgh, that's pretty shit. That's pretty shocking, and not
only in the artist he threw, but how efficient he
was to yes on Sunday. So very impressive, but give
you factors from this one and maybe huh, can.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
We give a shout out to the announcers and Jason
his completion streak they go twenty completions in a row
times Brent far for the routine record.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And yep, sorry, all right, we got charges at Titans.
The Chargers are nine and a half point favorites the
over under Zach, it's forty three and a half.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Wow. Do I feel like this This line is low
for as bad as the Titans are, and I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The Chargers are.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Working with a banged up offensive line, no left tackle,
really no run game.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't think it really matters.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Give me the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
They win the game. Does Tennessee continue playing?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Is bad?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
I mean, do we get a good performance here? I
might include the Arizona game. That thing was was a fluke.
Give me under this game, actually, give me under. I
don't see how scoring this game at all. Chargers have
guys out Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
This sucks. This is say what twenty to fourteen game?
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Maybe like Charters will win if I should cover, but
I don't know if I don't know if they're good
enough right now with their health issues to cover anything.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So I'll take the under on this one. Oh but
we'll say they are no, no, they play on Thursdays.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
It's not a blue week for them actually, So all right,
you took the charges, right, he said, yeah, okay. Next
one we have Falcons at Patriots. The Patriots, I would
have one favorites thee over under Zach is forty four
to a half.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I mean, this game does kind of matter on She's
just gonna play quarterback. But I'm gonna assume it's gonna
be Michael Pennox Jr.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, Kirk Cousins, Kirk Coussins is done. Bro, Kirk Cousins
is Kirk Cousins is cooked. Any last gas we had
had a going getting traded to another team. That's out
the window. Now no one is touching them now. Nobody
is not Minnesota, No one is now that contract.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
There, yeah, they are fucked beyond belief. He isn't say
so he got Patriots.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I'm actually gonna take the under just because it is
a big line for on the road there.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well yeah, it's a it's a uh Foxborough.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It isn't Foxboro. Yeah, damn, you know what, I'll take
the Pats.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Then, are you believe in the past. Are they super
centercy yet? Oh yes, yes, see Moore.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I wouldn't say super Bowl contenders, but I mean they're
to me, I feel like they're gonna win that division.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Oh okay, you're there, Okay, cool, all right, I got
passed the ball to all So because the Corbacks, which
I know who's playing, what, I don't know who's playing.
So therefore I'm gonna take the Pats on that one.
And Drake Mayin is dealing it now, he is dealing
all right. We got niners at Giants, the niners of
people on favorites. He over under Zach is forty nine.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Good lord, that's a high over too after losing Skattaboo.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I kind of feel like there's gonna be a little
bit of a letdown.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So give me the give you under. Yeah, so I
got unders well too, that's way too the I'm surprised
that high. I thought maybe maybe forty six. At most
forty nine. That's a lot of points, you know. I
think they're thinking that because both of these teams have
banged up that the media defenses before just let loose
and you know whatever not that plays well and jump,
(25:14):
I mean mac Jones's other than last week. Mac Joneses
had a really solid solid the season. Uh here's my question,
rock Party, what what are we gonna see him again?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Turf till and uh, I've watched Dion Sanders basically have
to retire because of it.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's a really tricky injury.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Yeah, all right, we got underrated game a week here.
Underrated anyway, we got Colts at Steelers. The Colts are
three point favorites. The over under Zach is fifty.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh give me the Colts.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh wow, snap call too, you snap called that one.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, until they can't do it. I'm buying into this
right now.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
No, I don't blame for that either, man.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
But but you know, it's funny, like this is the
kind of year where like you start seeing the trends
and like just when you get on the trend, it
gets bucked because that's what the season is right now.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Everything it's so wonky this year. So the best bet,
while the coach should in this game because the steels
even sucks, the best best the over not the over
here can pick a thirty eight, thirty seven to twenty
four game here something something high scoring.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
It was a team to a score. You know, the
question is going to defense is step up and I
don't think steels defense can. So give me the over
on this one.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
All right.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
We got Broncos at Texans. The Texans at one point
favorites the over under, Zach is is that forty?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It is forty? Yeah, that's pretty low.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Actually, so this is this was a tough one for me.
I feel like the Houston defense has kind of massive
with bow necks, and so I didn't want to take Denver.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm gonna we's see out and take the under. These
defenses are gonna hold the offenses.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
And check to me, I'm gonna take Houston ash out right, Wow,
I think I think Houston's gonna I think Houston's on
a little bit and the come up.
Speaker 10 (27:10):
Now.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
CD Stroud had his best game in a while on
Sunday against Yeah, BEng The Niners defense was still a
solid unit, and then that said a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Houston. Look, they're not a super contender, none of those things.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
They're not gonna catch the Colton Division, but can't get
back in the walk Art situation, I win here puto
and four after a rough start, so Denver, I gotta
see more Denver before I really buy in.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, you beat Dallas. Cool, good job.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Dallas is probably the most instant the team in the league.
And you should lost to the Giants two weeks ago.
So now we win this game. They maybe I'll have
a other conversation. But I like Houston here.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I think Houston's kind of back, kind of back now
saying fully bad, but kind of back.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
All right, we got Jaguars at Raiders. Man, you got
Jags a few point favorites. The over under Zach is
forty five.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So as you what, did you have them number thirty
one on your list?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Had Raiders at number thirty thirty? Actually, oh at.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Thirty Okay, the fact they're in the bottom five. You
gotta take Jacksonville. I just don't see it.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Jacksonville's got a pass rush to be able to pressure
Gino Smith into probably another two interceptions on the day.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
He loves to turn it over this season. Jimme, Jacksonville,
I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
The off a bye to on top of that, yeah,
off a bye. But the best bet is the over.
That number is low enough. Actually forty five. Raiders can score.
They just can't score anyone two.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I can't remember last time they scored. And that brings
me to a side note. Who's really been the bigger
draft bust this seasons?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
It was it Hunter or is it Gent? Well?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Good question, because I lean Hunter, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
But are you leaning Hunter because of the trade?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No, because of his fault, because he's because pick a
fucking position. He's turning himself playing both.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I think that's what's HEARDing him is he's not playing
but positions enough. He's not getting enough plays. And for me,
it's Genty.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Genty's had one decent game.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
The Bearers game, right, the Bearers game.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Otherwise he has been.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Trash, but he's so he's so reliant though on the
offense line to do well, which is not been the
case this year.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The Hunter thing is that, okay, impact, there's no impact
on either side the ball. Impact. I'm not saying that
he's not playing. I'm gonna say's play bad. I'm gonnay,
he's not making any impact. That's all. If you're playing
both sides the ball, you gotta make impact plays and
I'm not seeing that yet. So best bats over for me.
All Right, We've got the same said Rams.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
The Rams are fourteen point favorites the over under Zach
it's forty four and a half.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Give me the Rams. There's they're gonna problem there. I
really believe they're starting the new kid, Uh that they drafted.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
What is it sal Uh a receiver?
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Oh no, no, no, I mean I'm put this on
saying to me the quarterbacks a slight sloan. What a
fuck his name is?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, I'm showing shown believe I think sal sALS we
see let me see his name of quick get for
you right now? All right? So, uh it was show
tell the show Shao s h o u g h
spell it so show how bow don't matter? Give me
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the fucking Rams fourteen points cover because number one off
a bye. Number two saying suck that simple. So I
we both have both had the Rams here, all right?
Three more games here you got Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Gave the week Chiefs at Bills. The Chiefs are one
and a half point favorites. Over under is fifty two
and a half.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Sack.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
This is the game every year, every year, and I
want to go chief really yes, So.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Every year during the regular season Buffalo wins this every year,
I don't think Chi's won this game. Is Buffalo Judo
ego season a.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Couple of years actually, But it doesn't matter because when
they played in the playoffs when but it matters, the
Chiefs win those games anyway, whether it be in Buffalo,
will be in in Arrowhead, it doesn't matter. So I'll
stay with I think I think the Bills win this game, actually,
but I think I'm best bet is the over. Buffalo
needs this game more, I guess. However, the Chiefs schedule
(31:52):
coming up, though, can make an argument the other way too,
because the Chiefs play this game, then the Colts.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I think that the Broncos after that.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
So there's a stretch of games here that Nina, this
could be a good one, wouldn't have under their the
belt just to kind.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Of move, you know, to go do that stretch.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
But even when I say that, I don't worry about
the big picture because they're Chiefs. So but the best
means the over for me. But that's it, all right,
Sunday football. You got Seahawks at Commanders, your Commanders rather
the Seahawks three that one favority over under his forty six.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Give me the Seahawks, all right. I actually have faith
in and that team showing up to play. I have
no idea who will show up to play for Washington,
whether or not to be out there trying. And their
defense is just terrible. I don't think we have a corner.
Maybe Amis can keep up with Jackson, but I really
(32:53):
have no faith in our defense.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I don't blame you. I would say the biggest letdown
this year. But the thing is, though we kind of
saw this coming. I knew to be a little worse
than last year. I did to be this bad.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
And then but then you have the excuses you have.
You have the injuries for Jane Daniels, He's missed three
games a year.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
That's not good. That's not good.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
The best bet though, like the under here, give me
under this one. I don't know, pick Seattle off of Bye.
I just think there's still letdowns to be to be
made here, and I think Washington's not Washington's not three
and Quive bad. They're not that bad. Okay, they have
(33:36):
our defense, Yeah, but I feel like I don't know
many maybe handle last year.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Still, I guess it is an under than Washington wins
wing under all right, thank you?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Because I don't see it happening.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Oh they went not the question Jane plays a week
he should.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I mean they were saying it wasn't significant injury.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, but they dispassed by how many weeks? Though?
Speaker 7 (34:03):
And here's the thing to also, you know, you know,
he says in the podcast last week, I'm not in
a situation now where there are teams that NFC running
away with the running away with the the playoff spots. Now,
there was gonna be that last seventh spot. It's still open,
Sam friend right now. I think it might might have
right now currently, but they're banged up, Chicago hasn't put
(34:25):
together all yet, so this is it's still space there.
There's still Dallas hanging around, so there's still space for
the seventh team. And I think Washington is still in
that conversation. So I'll say the under this one though,
all right? And finally, uh, the mon Night football game,
we have the Cardinals at Cowboys. Cowboys to that one
favorite the over under Zac is.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Am I read this right? Fifty four?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Who I thought it was like fifty one.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Damn, I'm gonna make sure that hold one, but it's
fifty four. I think, yeah, it was right open, open,
forty one and a half, not fifty four.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
Crazy man, Man, do you know if Kyle Murray is
going to be back? No clue, Yeah, Murray was back.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'd really go for the over.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So I want to go with the hope that Murray
does come back this week and take the over over
fifty four. I know it's an insane over, but Dallas
has a crappy team. Arizona can score some points.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
We reach a real quick Caylin Murray.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
Now they're off a bye too, which helps your case.
Uh ask for Kyle murray injury. He did practice this week.
He did practice, so that helps.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Man, Monday, what do you do on a Monday walk? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
So thin to Also, you have a bye week and
he is a plane in three weeks plus to buy
this week plus your given Monday football to get back.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
If I hadn't put off this, I would say he
comes back this week. Yeah, so Kim and the out
and if Parison wants me.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
To playoff two also because it's one of those other
teams that stole kind of the mix for the same spot.
So give me to you over, but I'm taking Dallas one.
Actually regardless, I'm saying Dallas and dak in that offense.
So so there is your Week nine best bets.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
All right, before we get going quick a minute, we
have we've had our bye week this week fake for us.
Ah boy, here's here's my question, real quick. What can
Mike Novell do to save his job? Because I'm convinced
he's gone through this year. I'm convinced now that's for
many many people. What can you do to save his job?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Refuse to negotiate his buyout. As long as he refuses
to negotiate his buyout, he'll be there next season. Ship
that that that Fursday, fs Y is going to refuse
to pay him the amount of money that it is.
But I believe it'll be fifty three million dollars and
(37:04):
there's no way at the end of the season FSD
is paying that kind of money.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Let me see him quick, I'll go buy out.
Speaker 10 (37:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
The buyout is Jesus.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Fifty four to fifty eight point six million dollars right
now currently. Yeah, so by the end he ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
No, And can you imagine that he has a higher
buyout than Brian Kelly?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, good freaking coach.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, let me ask you that. Let's says she does
by the bullet instead of fire him. Do you would
you actually take on Brian Kelly?
Speaker 7 (37:49):
I say yes, unless why can't stay Brian Kelly the
person why Tay my head coach of this team? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, because Brian whatever contract you get Ryan Kelly,
he'll get every year that because there's no way FS you.
I just honestly, first off, we're not signing if we
were to buy out Norvell, there's no way we're signing
a big.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Name coach because there's no way we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Spend that kind of money on a buyout and then a.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Big name coach.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Anyway, coming back for cheap is what I think it
would take.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
Okay, anyway, we do play this weekend, we play Wake Forest.
We are nine half one favorites or runners fifty? Uh
who you like this game?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I like FS you buy a field goal.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
To waking the points?
Speaker 10 (38:42):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Way?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Absolutely, we're going here take the points. Whoever FS you plays,
take the points?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
You know what.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Buy?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Maybe maybe it's having to much more faith of my team.
You know, you stink. Ifish you cover the spread, why not,
that's I'm covered. And if they don't cover them. Fuck
them because he's the reality. You're gonna have no pell
fast for the year.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
They're not fire no, absolutely, and and and this.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Financial reason why not that's gonna happen. So whatever. But
you know what, for one week, make me happy, give
me fus you. That's one hundred and we call from
there anyway, Zach with your picks as always. Uh yeah,
maybe we're gonna get a win this week finally.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Who knows, no chance, the fact that just won before
I did this.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
All right, buddy, take it easy, go luck with your picks.
We'll talk to laterbody
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
Shoty, my fairite degenerate. You know he's getting his ass
whooped this shirt on O picks. Zachary wants up, body.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Dude, did you even lose the fucking game.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Last week I hit uh, I was like eleven others
fifty fourteen games like, I don't know quick course of that?
Hold on, I had one, two, three, four, six, Yeah
I only got three. No, dude, you're right two games wrong?
One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And did you bet any spreads or did you play
all pussy?
Speaker 7 (01:55):
I played all pussy on my line. And guess what
I hit most of the games is for one? One
game fucked me. Well, I guess the game?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh man off and I got it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, wait, you like the Ravens game, and you were
liking the Atlanta game, but that.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Game thought game either a party?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's the Giants.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
No, come on, bro, come on, I was right that
almost correct about it. Actually know the Jets the Bengals
and knowing that they were up at fourteen to fourth quarter, bro,
so I would have made money. So whatever, I went
again this week.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
So this week we're going to actually, going forward, we're
gonna do some some old school, something old we should
do back to day.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
We're gonna start adding it to the show.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Now going forward, we're gonna bring back our weekly power
rankings now, you guys remember this.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Podcast we just back and back in the day.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
You're going way back to year one of the show,
when we do doing the show back in your old house,
back in freaking village, back in the day we were
doing power rankings every week and debating that stuff. It
won't be as long. We're just touching it a little.
We're gonna do a top ten bottom of five every week.
Will this run through five bot five quickly, cond debate
bottom five a quick and then we'll go top ten
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each each week in this compared compare it, and then
of course we'll do our picks, and then we'll do
the man course back in the show, Zachary, since you were,
of course to guests here, give me your bottom five
this week, Teams twenty three to two.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Run all five down.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So you want me to start at twenty eight or
start with thirty two?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
What do you want to do? You want to do?
What what we're doing?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'm starting with thirty the worst team, the thirty second.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Words, okay, tights with you with you thirty two as
well for me?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Then I'm want to go jets.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Oh, I have seen I have seen thirty one.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
Actually, after that performance, by I'm like, okay, yeah, get
back to the bottom of the two.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I mean I could easily switch. I mean thirty is
the Saint.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So thirty I have the Raiders. You don't even play
this weekend? Damn yeah yeah, yeah. See the jetsman competitive
in their games, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, they've also had games where their quarterback was so
horrible they had zero chance.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Ever if that, if they had even a average offense,
they have two three wins on the bord already.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, they could have maybe stolen the Steeler game to
start the season.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But yep, so thirty other Raiders, twenty one you got.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
At twenty nine, I got the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Okay, so when when when the pocket there? So twenty
nine haf the Jets and then twenty eight? Who do
you have?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Miami?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So do I? So we have put the same The
five was easy that the bottom five very week now,
the last two week has been pretty easy for me.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
So these are clearly the worst things of football. Clearly
the only team I think you can make a case
for really outside these five, really Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
But Cleveland competitive though, and they're.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Two defense but zero offense, right, but football.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
They beat Green Bay, They beat who else they beat
this year? They have two wins this year. They beat
somebody else this year for Cody beat.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Uh they yeah, they want two games to beat the
Was it with Flaco though, No, No, was it with
Flaco thing when that game? No, they wanted with Flacco
against green Bay? Green Bay?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And then they won another game. I thought, yeah, remember
that was not important because no one one's talking about
it was that Miami, Yes, Miami. Correct, that was the blowout? Yeah,
that was that was it.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
I don't mean ship, but the way they want to
beat Penny Passes, I will say that. So all right,
is it the top ten?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
All right?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Number ten for me?
Speaker 7 (05:39):
I had the Buffalo Bills. I gotta see more, brother,
gotta see more. I gotta see some quality wins. Look
great bounce back against Carolina. I love it, but I
gotta see more.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You got ten.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So it was a toss up between the Bills, m
H and the end.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I decided to take the team that beat them and
leaves the division New England.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I'm slowly I'm buying in. Finally they're my ten.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I find me my ten first time this week, the
first time this year. I'm buying in on the on
the pets. That that's uh yeah that I like that one.
And Drake May is really really starting to uh grow
on me now too. Also, uh number nine, I have
a Seattle Seahawks going to buy this week. Obviously they are.
They've been very impressive, Sam Darnold an underrated MVP candidate.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So I got see number nine.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You got nom nine Seattle.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
There you go, brother, and quite possibly the favorite win
the AMC West now based on the injuries, Like if
the Rams don't get Pooka back soon, I could see
the ale in the division.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Oh yeah, I can see him get getting so far
out and they don't fall back.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
I knowing that Zach, we might be in a place
right now through eight weeks that we might already know
the seven playoff teams. Now I think we're in the place,
so we we I think, what if I told you
right now the seve playoff team right now this year? Okay,
division winners Philly with the when when's the Philly? When's
the uh the East? Detroit wins the North or Green
(07:07):
Bay whenever, uh, Atlanta, Tampa wins it definitely in the South,
and then either combination of Rams to win the West Okay,
those two teams in the West, that's that's you know,
those two teams they have Green Bay or Detroit. That's
two for six teams. And then the seventh team will
come out come around, and the seven team is probably
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
A combination of.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Who they San Fran if they get help.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Stan Fran maybe one or Chicago maybe if they fall together.
I don't trust them, but you know, yeah, I think
we I think we have idea who the sixth the
six teams in the NMC are maybe it maybe a
sneinaky seventh team San Francisco get healthy.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah, that's it done in a discussion. All right, Remember
eight for me the Patriots. I got a Patriot number eight.
That's that's where I had the Pats. Uh again, an
impressive six to start first place names the East.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So who for you number eight?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And the right for me is the Rams. I feel
like the only thing that is keeping them so low
on this list is really the health of the of
their weapons.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
But if everyone's healthy, they are scary.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
They're scary on defense, absolutely, they're scary on offense.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So and I feel like you know that race for
number two.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Look, we remember we're saying for the first couple of years,
a couple weeks, best team in the in the East
is probably an MC rather's funny Eagles.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's not so clear anymore.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
There's no clear top team in the NMC, and it's
only no clear top top two teams in MC. I
think it's like the case we made for I think three,
three or four teams sort of top spot right.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Now based on a plane. So which is fun of course.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
Uh, one of those teams who has a case is
just number seven for me, Tampa Taps.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, I agree, I have on the spot higher. I
put Denver there at seven. They were a little more consistent,
they would be higher on this list. But man, when
you have to wait to the fourth quarter multiple games,
granted you did pull up both those victories.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
I mean to be to be thar of them to also,
they have not looked back since that that that fourth
quarter against the Giants. And when I say look back,
meaning the offense will anything else, the defense will question
the best probably in football, but it was the offensive
worried about could the offensive pull away? If that comes
all together going forward, now, situation with the AMC, where
maybe they were entering the conversation with Superowl contenders because
(09:27):
their defense is fantastic, you know, I mean so, so
you had uh at Temple seven, you had Denver seven,
yea temp yeah, Tempa six?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Right? Yeah, yeah, have the Rams at six.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Okay, Baker Mayfield, he's got to be a top five
MVP candidate with every five the top two or three.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Uh, that's up for debate too.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
But Jonathan Taylor number one right now? Obviously what's that
Jonathan Tani number one? Obviously Jonathan Taylor in Indie. And
then that for me is a Baker Bakes number two
for me. So yeah, okay, so no sex for me?
Was the Rams, Like I told you, Stafford. Look, if
they're healthy, they are the they are the biggest threat
(10:11):
to win the to the Eagles in the NFC. I
believe still because I think that that quarterbacks full top
of cork in the league. That was weapons and the
defense is really good.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Still.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Look, they gave Way that San Fran game weeks ago,
but I think Alter the Rams were on a long
playing game, long play team. They've been to the Super Bowl,
they make deep runs in the playoffs, so I trust them.
Uh five, you said six, right? Sex Stamp of right,
you said. Yeah, Five for me is the Packers, great
winning Pittsburgh. You still want to see more.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Because they it kind of feels like that, it doesn't
it feel like they have like more than one loss.
You know, the don't have one loss, but I feel
like the Packs have more to one loss.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, I mean they have that disappointing time, but I
mean that that really should have been win for them,
if not for the best fall.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, I aree with you on that. I agree with
him that who's fire for you?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That Five for me is the Lions.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Wow, that feel.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Amazing football like, but still you almost have to look
at who they have been playing and beating.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
In that case. That case, he loss was kind of
a that's a tough one. Yeah, yeah, I agree, I
agree with that part. But there was fuelow though.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
I feel like I feel like if you ask right
now what the snap call the best team MC, I
probably Detroy, but it's not by much, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But you know you still gonna proved to me, all right?
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Four for me is the Eagles and again, I mean, look,
the Giants win was Let's be real that I want
make an excuses here because they don't want to give anyway,
but the refereason didn't make that an easier. They took
away fourteen points of the Giants in that game.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
So they maybe now on a national broadcast like that
where you get to see a fumble get taken away,
maybe they're gonna do something about this touch push.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
I think I think it's the first massive case of
what being put away because now if you can't get
this right, but it was blatantly obvious, it wasn't down.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You know, that's a problem. That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
All right, Four for you, we got Four for me
is Philly, all right.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
All right? Three for me is Detroit. Like I said,
I feel like they're they're probably the best team NC,
but it's not by much. If there's a game interesting them,
the Rams and and Detroit, Detroit Rams and the Eagles.
You know, but I think Philadelpia higher power is part
of better team because they've they've done more, obviously, but
they seem kind of sluggish. So but Detroit right now,
the best high of power is so far through eight weeks.
(12:40):
All right, Three for you, Three for me is Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Mmmmm, though that Cleveland game where.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't even think their head was in the game
for it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Then they would be under They would be easily the
best team in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Yeah, Like I'm yeah, it's funny because they have the
best because right now the playoff all today, then in
the one seed.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, and they they to me, they've had the two
of the biggest wins on the season.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, the Detroit went obviously, yes, and then I guess
in Pittsburgh too. So yeah, but you know, vision you know.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
It's not that good, to be honest, you and I
think the Ravens come up with a division, but that's
that's the new They're there, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Two for me is the Colts.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Two for me is Kansas City man.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
All right, So I got numb one Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Then I mean again, to me, it's more when I
when I say Casey number one, I recognized Indie's playing better.
When I put Keystamber one, it's more of the long play.
I trust them more. Okay, the Colts are playing the
best football right now in the league. However, they're not
a team that's been in this in this space, you know,
(13:55):
in the last five or six years. You don't get
to cut the line. That's because you you have a
sumlar record. The Chiefs have earned this to be, to
earn the right to be to to have faith in
even though they start zero to two. You know, the
Eagles earned that, earned that respect. The Detroit line earn
that respect. You're the fucking Colts. You gotta do more
to earn it. However, you are number two in the AFC.
(14:15):
You all playing the best. I will also say that
at this point outside of the Chiefs right now, they
are clearly the best in the conference. Like I will
take over Buffalo, I will take them over, Uh, gonna
be done with the year. I'll take them over for now,
Baltimore now, and so get together. They are the most complete.
They are probably the most complete team in football right now.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Look, right now, I don't see any team who they
stepped down the field and he would lose too.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Also, they're not cutting the line. Guess who gets the
one seed right now? It's the Colts.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Everybody lines up behind them. They get home field advantage
for everything right now. So you have to record in
the top ten list who is playing the best currently,
not from last year, since twenty eighteen, but right.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now, Zachary, you know how these ranks WI come with me?
You know, I take a lot of things in consideration
when I do the rankings, and not just to hearing now.
And it's boring, you know what's boring for me to
do that?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Bro Okay, So you're gonna have to explain how you
put green Bay or I mean put the lines ahead
of green Bay.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They lost at the head last time I checked, I
got on the second round.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Last I have I have some I have some trust
issues with the packers right now, dude, I really did
I do? That's probably why. So all right, let's get
right picks.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
The week we got s we got four buyers this
week we have the Browns, the Jacks, the Eagles and
the Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Of these four teams, who need it more?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh man, it's the Buccaneers they got They need a
week where they don't lose anybody on the field and
maybe someone gets healthy.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
They could use another weapon getting healthy.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
They they are banged the hell up obviously with you know,
off the linemen and receivers out. So then I agree
with you there definitely the Buccaneers, Eagles. You know, age
Browns hamstring.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Was out this week. They gave Doumble week Regod.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
But it's definitely Buccaneers, I mean, especially we make their
run for the top scene NFC.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So I agree with you that one, all right, if
it's their picks, all right. First game we have the
Thursday night game. We have Ravens at Dolphins. Their Ravens
are eight point favorites over under it's fifty one. Zach,
what you got.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm gonna go real chickeny and just take the over.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I am too. I am too because I know, first off, look,
I expect Lamar to play this game. But we also
said that last week on the show and then like
they pulled the plug, pulled the rug on the road
saying that Lamar's out, but it s took out that
the win he needed. And but for the record, I
think I do think they will win win the division.
I think they will come back. Pittsburg has not pulled away,
and after I saw on Sunday, I don't trust him.
(17:00):
The Bengals think, and the Browns on the Browns.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So the Bengals think just because they lost to the Jets,
they put up thirty eight points against a good defense.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
That's my point though, because they can do that and
that's my whole point. They will do that, so I
don't trust them and Baltimore wolf gel together. They get
guys back now and not for enough in the defense
play better last four weeks, so maybe they start They
finally finally found the find the way to uh get
that old organized, plug those holes and the Lamar gets
(17:31):
back this weekend. All is all good. So over as
well too. All right, speak of those Bengals. We've got
Bears at Bengals. Uh the Bears right now to that
one favorite two over under Zac is fifty two and
a half.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I gotta believe the Bears will get their offense in
line going against this Bengals defense. Maybe Flaco was just
another one hit won, or he was one man for Cleveland,
one man for Cincinnati, and maybe he gets traded but
before never number fourth, so you can have a third
win for a third franchise.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
So he's going on you on Cincinnati.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
I'm going to the Bears on Bears.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Okay, Okay, I would too. They need to win by way.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
That that lost to Baltimore was a big letdown for
me because that because number one, if you the Bears,
you buried the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
One, you buried.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
The Ravens were good, but also you now put some
because just whitch went out, you're five and two and
now you're probably in that spot to get that wildcard.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I mean, we discussed on only podcasts and number seventh spot.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Are there to be in five and two because that's
what happened last year there were four and two help
and everything went down hill.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
But we could agree with kill Bills the better quarterback
this year any was last year? Maybe? I guess. Oh,
I think, so okay, there we go.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
So I mean, I don't know, man, that that letdown
for the Beers, But I'm gonna go over this one
actually too, because I think these depends are pretty man,
So you need over in this one. All right, We
got Vikings at Lions. The Lions are nine point favorites,
the over under forty time of it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So he basically have to assume JJ McCarthy is playing
this week?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Right, What what in the fuck is one of that situation?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, you gave him two games.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Basically, he pulled a miracle in on Monday night, then
has a bad game, then gets hurt, and all of
a sudden you were gonna write him off for the season.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, I don't get what's going on there. Wait, have
they flown town on the home mcarfee thing?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Is that what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It kind of feels that way.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But you know, so many teams are overreacting on these
young quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He's played on three games with them, if that.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Three total games, not even finished the third game.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
But they're seeing something in practice maybe is why they're
doing this. They're seeing something. Boy, are they regretting between
you know, letting go Sam Darnold?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Huh? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I had him for thirty million.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yep from bargain too.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So I'm taking the Lions.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
I think the lines will blow up. So who I
don't know who the quarterback is. I mean mcarthy might
be the quarterback, but that doesn't really help you much.
Kidsn't played in weeks.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Detroit. I'll fly to on top of that nine points.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I feel I'm stealing money here with Detroit, honestly so
even Detroity won this game in cover easy and nine.
All right, we got Panthers at Packers. The Packers are
thirteen point favorites. The over under Zach is forty four
and a half.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I gotta believe this past weekend was I get right,
get everything lined up, green ball, just calm out and
destroy the Panthers. Whether Brian Shon comes back, actually I
really hope he comes back.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
For the way Andy Dalton looked, this has got to
be his last season in the league.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, me too. I'm going Packers, well,
I think, uh there and do a easy win. I
gotta say easy opponent. I don't know if it really
helps perception of them going forward for me because I
got to see another big win that gets a good opponent.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
But Jordan Love is enough nothing. Jordan Love probably his
best game of his career this past Sunday. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
People won't say the Dallas game was, but to go
into Pittsburgh, and let's been real, Going in Dallas is
one thing, but everybody went in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's not impressive to me.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Going to Pittsburgh and in that environment on Sunday football,
that's a little more impressive than me. And I know
Stield Damons as bad this year, but to do that
in Pittsburgh, that's pretty shit. That's pretty shocking, and not
only in the artist he threw, but how efficient he
was to yes on Sunday. So very impressive, but give
you factors from this one and maybe huh, can.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
We give a shout out to the announcers and Jason
his completion streak they go twenty completions in a row
times Brent far for the routine record.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And yep, sorry, all right, we got charges at Titans.
The Chargers are nine and a half point favorites the
over under Zach, it's forty three and a half.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Wow. Do I feel like this This line is low
for as bad as the Titans are, and I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The Chargers are.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Working with a banged up offensive line, no left tackle,
really no run game.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't think it really matters.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Give me the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
They win the game. Does Tennessee continue playing?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Is bad?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
I mean, do we get a good performance here? I
might include the Arizona game. That thing was was a fluke.
Give me under this game, actually, give me under. I
don't see how scoring this game at all. Chargers have
guys out Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
This sucks. This is say what twenty to fourteen game?
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Maybe like Charters will win if I should cover, but
I don't know if I don't know if they're good
enough right now with their health issues to cover anything.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So I'll take the under on this one. Oh but
we'll say they are no, no, they play on Thursdays.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
It's not a blue week for them actually, So all right,
you took the charges, right, he said, yeah, okay. Next
one we have Falcons at Patriots. The Patriots, I would
have one favorites thee over under Zach is forty four
to a half.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I mean, this game does kind of matter on She's
just gonna play quarterback. But I'm gonna assume it's gonna
be Michael Pennox Jr.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, Kirk Cousins, Kirk Coussins is done. Bro, Kirk Cousins
is Kirk Cousins is cooked. Any last gas we had
had a going getting traded to another team. That's out
the window. Now no one is touching them now. Nobody
is not Minnesota, No one is now that contract.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
There, yeah, they are fucked beyond belief. He isn't say
so he got Patriots.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I'm actually gonna take the under just because it is
a big line for on the road there.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well yeah, it's a it's a uh Foxborough.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It isn't Foxboro. Yeah, damn, you know what, I'll take
the Pats.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Then, are you believe in the past. Are they super
centercy yet? Oh yes, yes, see Moore.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I wouldn't say super Bowl contenders, but I mean they're
to me, I feel like they're gonna win that division.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Oh okay, you're there, Okay, cool, all right, I got
passed the ball to all So because the Corbacks, which
I know who's playing, what, I don't know who's playing.
So therefore I'm gonna take the Pats on that one.
And Drake Mayin is dealing it now, he is dealing
all right. We got niners at Giants, the niners of
people on favorites. He over under Zach is forty nine.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Good lord, that's a high over too after losing Skattaboo.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I kind of feel like there's gonna be a little
bit of a letdown.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So give me the give you under. Yeah, so I
got unders well too, that's way too the I'm surprised
that high. I thought maybe maybe forty six. At most
forty nine. That's a lot of points, you know. I
think they're thinking that because both of these teams have
banged up that the media defenses before just let loose
and you know whatever not that plays well and jump,
(25:14):
I mean mac Jones's other than last week. Mac Joneses
had a really solid solid the season. Uh here's my question,
rock Party, what what are we gonna see him again?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Turf till and uh, I've watched Dion Sanders basically have
to retire because of it.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's a really tricky injury.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Yeah, all right, we got underrated game a week here.
Underrated anyway, we got Colts at Steelers. The Colts are
three point favorites. The over under Zach is fifty.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh give me the Colts.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh wow, snap call too, you snap called that one.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, until they can't do it. I'm buying into this
right now.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
No, I don't blame for that either, man.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
But but you know, it's funny, like this is the
kind of year where like you start seeing the trends
and like just when you get on the trend, it
gets bucked because that's what the season is right now.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Everything it's so wonky this year. So the best bet,
while the coach should in this game because the steels
even sucks, the best best the over not the over
here can pick a thirty eight, thirty seven to twenty
four game here something something high scoring.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
It was a team to a score. You know, the
question is going to defense is step up and I
don't think steels defense can. So give me the over
on this one.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
All right.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
We got Broncos at Texans. The Texans at one point
favorites the over under, Zach is is that forty?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It is forty? Yeah, that's pretty low.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Actually, so this is this was a tough one for me.
I feel like the Houston defense has kind of massive
with bow necks, and so I didn't want to take Denver.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm gonna we's see out and take the under. These
defenses are gonna hold the offenses.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
And check to me, I'm gonna take Houston ash out right, Wow,
I think I think Houston's gonna I think Houston's on
a little bit and the come up.
Speaker 10 (27:10):
Now.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
CD Stroud had his best game in a while on
Sunday against Yeah, BEng The Niners defense was still a
solid unit, and then that said a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Houston. Look, they're not a super contender, none of those things.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
They're not gonna catch the Colton Division, but can't get
back in the walk Art situation, I win here puto
and four after a rough start, so Denver, I gotta
see more Denver before I really buy in.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, you beat Dallas. Cool, good job.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Dallas is probably the most instant the team in the league.
And you should lost to the Giants two weeks ago.
So now we win this game. They maybe I'll have
a other conversation. But I like Houston here.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I think Houston's kind of back, kind of back now
saying fully bad, but kind of back.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
All right, we got Jaguars at Raiders. Man, you got
Jags a few point favorites. The over under Zach is
forty five.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So as you what, did you have them number thirty
one on your list?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Had Raiders at number thirty thirty? Actually, oh at.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Thirty Okay, the fact they're in the bottom five. You
gotta take Jacksonville. I just don't see it.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Jacksonville's got a pass rush to be able to pressure
Gino Smith into probably another two interceptions on the day.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
He loves to turn it over this season. Jimme, Jacksonville,
I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
The off a bye to on top of that, yeah,
off a bye. But the best bet is the over.
That number is low enough. Actually forty five. Raiders can score.
They just can't score anyone two.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I can't remember last time they scored. And that brings
me to a side note. Who's really been the bigger
draft bust this seasons?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
It was it Hunter or is it Gent? Well?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Good question, because I lean Hunter, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
But are you leaning Hunter because of the trade?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No, because of his fault, because he's because pick a
fucking position. He's turning himself playing both.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I think that's what's HEARDing him is he's not playing
but positions enough. He's not getting enough plays. And for me,
it's Genty.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Genty's had one decent game.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
The Bearers game, right, the Bearers game.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Otherwise he has been.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Trash, but he's so he's so reliant though on the
offense line to do well, which is not been the
case this year.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The Hunter thing is that, okay, impact, there's no impact
on either side the ball. Impact. I'm not saying that
he's not playing. I'm gonna say's play bad. I'm gonnay,
he's not making any impact. That's all. If you're playing
both sides the ball, you gotta make impact plays and
I'm not seeing that yet. So best bats over for me.
All Right, We've got the same said Rams.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
The Rams are fourteen point favorites the over under Zach
it's forty four and a half.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Give me the Rams. There's they're gonna problem there. I
really believe they're starting the new kid, Uh that they drafted.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
What is it sal Uh a receiver?
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Oh no, no, no, I mean I'm put this on
saying to me the quarterbacks a slight sloan. What a
fuck his name is?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, I'm showing shown believe I think sal sALS we
see let me see his name of quick get for
you right now? All right? So, uh it was show
tell the show Shao s h o u g h
spell it so show how bow don't matter? Give me
(30:48):
the fucking Rams fourteen points cover because number one off
a bye. Number two saying suck that simple. So I
we both have both had the Rams here, all right?
Three more games here you got Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Gave the week Chiefs at Bills. The Chiefs are one
and a half point favorites. Over under is fifty two
and a half.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Sack.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
This is the game every year, every year, and I
want to go chief really yes, So.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Every year during the regular season Buffalo wins this every year,
I don't think Chi's won this game. Is Buffalo Judo
ego season a.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Couple of years actually, But it doesn't matter because when
they played in the playoffs when but it matters, the
Chiefs win those games anyway, whether it be in Buffalo,
will be in in Arrowhead, it doesn't matter. So I'll
stay with I think I think the Bills win this game, actually,
but I think I'm best bet is the over. Buffalo
needs this game more, I guess. However, the Chiefs schedule
(31:52):
coming up, though, can make an argument the other way too,
because the Chiefs play this game, then the Colts.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I think that the Broncos after that.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
So there's a stretch of games here that Nina, this
could be a good one, wouldn't have under their the
belt just to kind.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Of move, you know, to go do that stretch.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
But even when I say that, I don't worry about
the big picture because they're Chiefs. So but the best
means the over for me. But that's it, all right,
Sunday football. You got Seahawks at Commanders, your Commanders rather
the Seahawks three that one favority over under his forty six.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Give me the Seahawks, all right. I actually have faith
in and that team showing up to play. I have
no idea who will show up to play for Washington,
whether or not to be out there trying. And their
defense is just terrible. I don't think we have a corner.
Maybe Amis can keep up with Jackson, but I really
(32:53):
have no faith in our defense.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I don't blame you. I would say the biggest letdown
this year. But the thing is, though we kind of
saw this coming. I knew to be a little worse
than last year. I did to be this bad.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
And then but then you have the excuses you have.
You have the injuries for Jane Daniels, He's missed three
games a year.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
That's not good. That's not good.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
The best bet though, like the under here, give me
under this one. I don't know, pick Seattle off of Bye.
I just think there's still letdowns to be to be
made here, and I think Washington's not Washington's not three
and Quive bad. They're not that bad. Okay, they have
(33:36):
our defense, Yeah, but I feel like I don't know
many maybe handle last year.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Still, I guess it is an under than Washington wins
wing under all right, thank you?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Because I don't see it happening.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Oh they went not the question Jane plays a week
he should.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I mean they were saying it wasn't significant injury.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, but they dispassed by how many weeks? Though?
Speaker 7 (34:03):
And here's the thing to also, you know, you know,
he says in the podcast last week, I'm not in
a situation now where there are teams that NFC running
away with the running away with the the playoff spots. Now,
there was gonna be that last seventh spot. It's still open,
Sam friend right now. I think it might might have
right now currently, but they're banged up, Chicago hasn't put
(34:25):
together all yet, so this is it's still space there.
There's still Dallas hanging around, so there's still space for
the seventh team. And I think Washington is still in
that conversation. So I'll say the under this one though,
all right? And finally, uh, the mon Night football game,
we have the Cardinals at Cowboys. Cowboys to that one
favorite the over under Zac is.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Am I read this right? Fifty four?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Who I thought it was like fifty one.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Damn, I'm gonna make sure that hold one, but it's
fifty four. I think, yeah, it was right open, open,
forty one and a half, not fifty four.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
Crazy man, Man, do you know if Kyle Murray is
going to be back? No clue, Yeah, Murray was back.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'd really go for the over.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So I want to go with the hope that Murray
does come back this week and take the over over
fifty four. I know it's an insane over, but Dallas
has a crappy team. Arizona can score some points.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
We reach a real quick Caylin Murray.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
Now they're off a bye too, which helps your case.
Uh ask for Kyle murray injury. He did practice this week.
He did practice, so that helps.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Man, Monday, what do you do on a Monday walk? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
So thin to Also, you have a bye week and
he is a plane in three weeks plus to buy
this week plus your given Monday football to get back.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
If I hadn't put off this, I would say he
comes back this week. Yeah, so Kim and the out
and if Parison wants me.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
To playoff two also because it's one of those other
teams that stole kind of the mix for the same spot.
So give me to you over, but I'm taking Dallas one.
Actually regardless, I'm saying Dallas and dak in that offense.
So so there is your Week nine best bets.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
All right, before we get going quick a minute, we
have we've had our bye week this week fake for us.
Ah boy, here's here's my question, real quick. What can
Mike Novell do to save his job? Because I'm convinced
he's gone through this year. I'm convinced now that's for
many many people. What can you do to save his job?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Refuse to negotiate his buyout. As long as he refuses
to negotiate his buyout, he'll be there next season. Ship
that that that Fursday, fs Y is going to refuse
to pay him the amount of money that it is.
But I believe it'll be fifty three million dollars and
(37:04):
there's no way at the end of the season FSD
is paying that kind of money.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Let me see him quick, I'll go buy out.
Speaker 10 (37:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
The buyout is Jesus.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Fifty four to fifty eight point six million dollars right
now currently. Yeah, so by the end he ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
No, And can you imagine that he has a higher
buyout than Brian Kelly?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, good freaking coach.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, let me ask you that. Let's says she does
by the bullet instead of fire him. Do you would
you actually take on Brian Kelly?
Speaker 7 (37:49):
I say yes, unless why can't stay Brian Kelly the
person why Tay my head coach of this team? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, because Brian whatever contract you get Ryan Kelly,
he'll get every year that because there's no way FS you.
I just honestly, first off, we're not signing if we
were to buy out Norvell, there's no way we're signing
a big.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Name coach because there's no way we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Spend that kind of money on a buyout and then a.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Big name coach.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Anyway, coming back for cheap is what I think it
would take.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
Okay, anyway, we do play this weekend, we play Wake Forest.
We are nine half one favorites or runners fifty? Uh
who you like this game?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I like FS you buy a field goal.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
To waking the points?
Speaker 10 (38:42):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Way?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Absolutely, we're going here take the points. Whoever FS you plays,
take the points?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
You know what.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Buy?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Maybe maybe it's having to much more faith of my team.
You know, you stink. Ifish you cover the spread, why not,
that's I'm covered. And if they don't cover them. Fuck
them because he's the reality. You're gonna have no pell
fast for the year.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
They're not fire no, absolutely, and and and this.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Financial reason why not that's gonna happen. So whatever. But
you know what, for one week, make me happy, give
me fus you. That's one hundred and we call from
there anyway, Zach with your picks as always. Uh yeah,
maybe we're gonna get a win this week finally.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Who knows, no chance, the fact that just won before
I did this.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
All right, buddy, take it easy, go luck with your picks.
We'll talk to laterbody
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