The Student Of The Game Report

Earnest ‘EJ’ Christian and Kyle Nash aka. The Student Of The Game give midterm letter grades for all 32 teams in the NFL at the half way point of the 2025 regular season.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The Earnestly Speaking Podcast is a show that is founded
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mature subjects.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Listener discretion is advised.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
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(00:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
My own way, supply yourself and comfort.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Earnestly speaking, my ego is well fand earnestly speaking, good
of people.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
And nont bread. See I'm like a hurricane, durable breeze.
Earnestly speaking, leave it eat like a time podcast. It
is once again the student Geir Report. This is three
weeks in a row.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh my god, hey man, it's been simple by the way.
It just struck me, you know. Obviously, missus Christian provides
our verbal disclaimer here on earnestly speaking, I say hour
as if I have any ownership and I've been here
that long.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I feel like, y, yeah, you have some come on,
you know, but I feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
That that's my fault, that that things venture into mature
mature subjects because like, of all that, that's what she said,
jokes I make.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
That's a prit point. It's a prit point. Actually, I
don't hate that, bro. All right, So here's deal. Recording
setem thirty morning. I have a heart out at eleven forty.
My heart is out, okay, because.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Now you're making it venture into mature subject I have.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, well I'm you know, I don't know. I have
a massage at two o'clock. That's why you haven't going.
So I have to get out here. I want to
get there in time. It's about ten minutes way from
the holes stuff. So we're gonna try it normally, sure, yeah,
but no nobody. This is one of our longest podcasts
of the year. When we do this because the mid
terms are we do like this, you know, dive into

(02:20):
the minutia a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
But out smooth, and then you say something silly and
then I get you know, you.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Don't how this you know how this way still works? Bro?
You know how this works? Come on. So we're gonna
as we do every year. I love doing this with
every year our yearly midterms. We do because we are
now officially at the halfway twenty year week ten of
the NFL season. And after you do, we could do
it every year. We do it in alphabutic order. Let's
start the first team here first, the Arizona Cardinals. What

(02:48):
kind of great to give them?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
And and and three six?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Wait with that? Oh yeah, three six of course?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
No and and and Listen for me, this is one
that's that's a little harder, right it It starts out good,
they beat teams they should starts out, and then they
struggle and then lose the teams that they air quotes
should and then you lose to the damn Titans. Like
what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Right? For me?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
I mean, beating the Cowboys is adorable, but it's the
Cowboys who cares? No.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I say that jokingly.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I'm gonna just really not knowing what more to make
of them today, Like they still have room to get
better in what is a very much harder than we thought.
NFC West, I'm inclined to give to do the always
the easy thing for me to do what I'm confused
is just give me a C to wait as in
weight and see you know what I mean. But yeah,

(03:40):
not that you know, Kyler Murley's you know, doing Kyler
Murray things. The defenses, you know, relatively good, right. The
highest point total they've given up is what is it
twenty seven and they did, yeah, twenty seven points to
the Packers. You know that's that's not or excuse me,
it did give up thirty one to the Colts, who's
the highest scoring offense least they were at one point,

(04:01):
uh this year. The team that's completely overrated and we
saw that this past week against the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
More on that later, but yeah, see for the card, Yeah,
I'm rather I see minus actually, but yeah, then a
competitive and the dude call Calinmory, you know, you know
with the star quarterback who you know, we may have
an lot of penions about Kylin Murray and when he's
a great good, great quarterback, but you know he's definitely
productive and you know, to do this about him. Last
couple of weeks they've been they should have beaten Green
Bay a couple of games, don't one should have beat

(04:28):
in Tennessee obviously that that disaster there. But you know
Jacobs has been okay, and you know that they're playing
in right now, what I believe you for bringing that in. Yeah, right,
and they and and they're playing right now which is
probably the best division of football. You know you have
six or three niners? Well, I said probably, I said probably
Seattle six and two two. You got three teams right

(04:50):
now that have six onins already in that division right now.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Well, and honestly, you see, you know, I find it
annoying that well, and you're not one of the cats
that do this, but like you know, they have Can
we look at schedules too? I know it doesn't in
college football, but this the the the NFC West. One
could argue as a team that's beating up on themselves,
right capitalization to call that cannibalization? Correct, So yeah, I

(05:16):
it's in the it's in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I'll be honest.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
The reason why I'm hesitating is I haven't had the
time to do that thought process in my head. You
could be right. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, that's
that's I'm not saying knee jerk, but you got there quick, right,
all right?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, A lot of falcons streen fires.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Uh, you know, it's not the three and five as
much as it also is how they got there. Listen,
tying the Cardinals was already its own problem. Can we
be on not the Cardinals? Excuse me? The Cowboys was
already its own problem.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You're giving up?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Or yeah, they gave you forty points, you're allowing them
to score forty? I don't know. Then you lose to
the Panthers. I you know, no, this this is not
it for me. I'm gonna go see minus for the
pack There's still time to come back in what is
turning out to again be a competitive NFC North. I
think this is a conversation.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Where the falcons.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Right, No, you said I thought you said Packers. I'm
sorry Falcons. I thought that was weird because you said
Now then yeah, let's but you know, spoiler alert see
minus for the.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Fraud cons.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Oh see, well, now when you say the name correctly,
of course I get it. Yeah, screw these side seriously.
Let me let me just walk through the list. Right,
the Dolphins is an l losing to the Patriots. Okay,
well that was you know, that was two frauds pointing
at each other. More on that and losing to the
Panthers hit a shut out. Yeah no, dog, I will

(06:54):
give you a a magnanimous D. There's probably a joke
in there somewhere for getting past the commanders and bills.
But yeah, you're not. You're you're a fraud. Okay, it's
a D.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's a D for me. It's easy because hey, they
beat Buffalo Coal, were like, oh maybe this team could
be uh maybe a bit of spoiler MC and then
they re off three straight losses. I'm like, okay, you
guys are really you guys aren't.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
For real, it's just the three straight losses. It's the uh,
it's the fact that one of them was the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Look, yeah, that's right. And not only that they got
blown out by Dolphins. It is are we the worst
two in football? Argably? Argubly Let's say they are, but
the argument that's a little strong.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
But they still fraud?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Do it anyway? Exact? All right, next team here, just
just be fun one Bolt Ravens Stream five.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I mean, you gotta go f right, And part of
that is the expectation, like they have been struggling.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Mightily.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
He did Christian right, Like, I is there a better
word than struggling mightily. For this group, I don't see
what there is. So this is a short one for me. Yeah, disappointing.
I don't even need to look at the schedule that much.
I mean, you beat the Browns, cool, and that's your
only win in the first win my counting six weeks.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, yeah, and then they went to in rows then
but and the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Let's get sighted, nah, so the only week give me something.
The only way to improve is if they somehow sneak
into the playoffs, and then we'll talk about maybe a beat,
which I think they still.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Will the old The only reason I didn't go was
because they were missing Lamar Jackson for schelling those games.
If Lamar was not was healthy.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Easy, if he had a worse backup than Tyler Huntley,
I might agree with you that defense is awful.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, I agree, But they are getting healthy and have
played better last three weeks, and so you have that
they have. They're playing worse, I mean, but there's something
to be said that the you to trade. The opponents
are definitely much weaker now. And as I said, the
reason why they'll get back into things because their schedule
is easy now and so for so far they are too.
And there are two in that schedules for what I mentioned,

(09:11):
you know, weeks ago, so they're doing what I thought.
What happened now obviously is a disappointment, absolutely without question.
But you know they're they're D plus, but they are
slowly rising. So I'll limit a lot.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Of disappointing teams remaining on their schedule. Like there's very
well talk here that the toughest game remaining maybe the Vikings.
I won't say that the Steelers obviously are in the
in the running, but maybe the Patriots and the Packers.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
By by the but by the time they get the
Steelers game though they may have never ready caught Pittsburgh
this point.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Well, and you got to remember with the Steelers that
being the rivalry game that it is that I still
think is the best rivalry currently in the NFL, even
after Ben and Flacco. Well Flacco has retired yet, but
he's not there playing for the Ravens. You know. Yeah,
I feel like that those games are funny physics too,
so you never all.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Right, next one, Buffalo Bills, it's two.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, okay, Lissen, you threw in some extra credit
by dominating Patrick Levon Mahomes the second in a way
that frankly was a career low for Patrick Levon Mahomes.
The second incompletion, right, that matters. Okay, you beat the Ravens,
well they were still good at for full strength. A'll

(10:25):
be it by a single point. But nonetheless you beat them,
you lost to the fraud cons. Yeah, that that was.
That was, That was where we're coming from. You know,
people talk about the Bills are this big disaster. You
forget they only lost two games right now. Granted it's
it's it's because you know, they let two teams steal

(10:46):
their lunch money, because the ones they are facing are
both frauds, both the Pats and the Falcons. I said
what I said, but uh, give me a beat, give
me a bee. There one could have argued for a
C until they beat Patrick Levon maho Homes the second income.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I'm with you, I won't be minus. But the
reason why is that way? It was because there's a
letdown factor, like the beating team is supposed to but also.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
They were supposed to beat the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
No, the other other ones like the Winds against for example,
I see where.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
You're going until I get to the divisional factor. But yeah,
it's also it's also a fair point. And I've been
a little rough, but haven't been terrible so far, Yeah
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I also been a little rough on both Bill Mafia
because I love I love both Mafia guys a record,
you know, I love you guys. However, you're Boys fan.
You don't fan, you don't love Bills. But again you
you okay? You being Casey in October November is nothing new.
You do this every year. Now, upunk command in January.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
You're not grading for the past, you're greeting.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I agree, I'm talking big picture, of.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Course, if your if your response is that they clearly
have taken a step back in this year and the
window was starting to close, and it shows I can
see that. But like, oh well, we're used to being
Patrick Levon mahomes a second, That.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Is no excuse to quarter record for the record, though, Listen,
their window will always be open as long as that
quarterback is still their quarterback.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
I don't agree, because if their defense continues to get worse,
they'll become the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
M frippoint frippoint all right?

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Carolin Panthers five to four, buddy, if you said to
me nine games in that the Panthers would have the
same record, not only as the Kansas City Chiefs and
Patrick Levon Mahomes the second, I would also tell you
your nuts for trying to sell me five and four
with this team. And granted they showed the Falcons fraudulent.

(12:39):
I get all that they beat the Cowboys. Okay, cool,
it's another one. I mean, I joke about the Cowboys.
I do give them credit. That's not necessarily when you
expect them to get especially coming into this year. The
way they run the football is the way they run
the football, it's it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Overall.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I gotta give them a B minus. They're out performing
what I thought they do, and I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I want a minus actually, because I mean that's our
biggest I think. I'm not mad at you, you know
what I mean? Yeah? No, The thing is I was
with b until Sunday and then you went in Lambo.
I mean, I know, green based kind of a fraudulent,
but you still win a Lambo. That's the big win.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
It if if they had done it with more than
sixteen points, I could take that seriously. But truth this
is what this Panthers team is is run it and
make games ugly.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, and and to your point, though about you the
some team team five and four seam record as they say,
not all uh five or four.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Teams create equal and maybe even though your alleged boy,
Bill Parcell says you are what your record says you are,
which I still hockey.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
But no, I think it's a bit a bit a
misnomordy said there, But it is what it is, all right,
Chico Bears five and three?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
God, do you know what to make of this damn
team three?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's I know, Yeah, and I don't to your point
that told me that what I'm saying, you know, it's
this I it's every even we're about to do this.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
There are teams I pick out going. I have no
idea what I'm gonna give these humpy bumps. They're literally
a showtime decision, right, Yeah. Losing to a revamped h
Ravens team, or I shouldn't say revamped, but shall we
say on the rise raven teams coming back out of
the slump. Okay, I'm mad at it. Losing to the Lions, big.

(14:32):
You hate to see a thirty point anything but Okay,
then you got you got three games straight with the Raiders, Commenders,
and Saints.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
You're not.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
I'm not riding home and beating the Bengals in the shootout.
No I see to see.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I was close to seeing see I wouldn't be minus.
But yes, yes, yes, plus. But also it's weird because
there is some kind of fake hustle to this team.
I agree there is, but they're like you see momost like, okay,
well maybe they're pretty good that that Baltimore game was

(15:07):
a letdown.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
It was, you know why.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
You know why, because one you win that game, you'll
see probably at worse six than two, you know, at
this point now.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
And we start hearing that allegedly you know, Ben Johnson
and Caleb Williams's you know, air quotes starting to work,
and then that game happens where they only put up
sixteen against that defense.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
No I hear that.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Uh I it's the shame the mid turns don't come
after like a Vikings game or a Steelers game like
they have in the next two weeks. I'm skipping the
Giants because you know why, if you're a Giants fan
you would, so you may not. But anyways, Uh, yeah,

(15:49):
you can't meet me at C plus.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You're all the way up to the Yeah maybe, I mean,
I mean we can see plus is fine or whatever. Boom, Okay,
so you sold me, but it wasn't see accidentally my grade.
So all right, your jingles. The Bengals threen.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Six, you know, with expectation, I'm gonna mark this. I
don't often do this, but once every two or three
years there's a team I'm compelled to mark incomplete. Joey
Burr got hurt again. How many different quarterbacks have they

(16:26):
gone through? I'm counting three, including the Immortal, a name
I have not bestowed on a quarterback since Chris Chandler
and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Flacco has attained the status the Immortal,
even though he has not come back from the dead.
More HM.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
But and this event, this team's they're on a fire.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
You could give them an F on the strength of
the gmming perhaps, but for me on the field, evaluating
what I see on Sundays and other days of game days,
they're they're marked incomplete. And so by extension, I guess
because the the the general management failed them. So ham
with a big H there, Yeah, I got to put

(17:11):
f then just on the district.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I don't don't blame you. I wasn't d plus just
but the thing is they're even without Burrow. They're still
in these games, and they gave Way two games without
Burrow as is anyway, you know.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
The game game when you have Jamar Chase and t
Higgins right, And.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I will say that Joe flock move was actually a
good move because he's been phenomenal there. He ain't the problem.
The problem.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
No, I don't think anybody's into the line of I
will say the credits with the Vegels, their online has
held up pretty well.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Better than I thought it would be. To be honestly,
if you ain't Kyle, he ain't dead yet. He's throwing
the ball with.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
It is impossible and granted, let me show you my
credentials again with my Aaron Evid's original painting and me
with my O line swags at a state. Yes, it
is impossible for me to let an O line slide. Yep,
that got their quarterback knocked out for the season by
a team who is currently among the worst at rushing

(18:13):
the passer in the league.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Right, make sense? Carry on all right? Clean rounds.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Rounds F next I mean, what are we doing here?
You know, first of all, you know what you need
to do. Accept the fact you suck. Start seedor Sanders,
justify he doesn't belong in the league, or make him
good trade bait. You're losing all the way around by
concentrating on the sockhowker that is doing?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You're gonna kill me. Here's why dabill C minus though
they're actually chads. They're actually better I thought they'd be
this year. Oh, because your expectations were too low. You
know what, You've come up with worse answers than that
in the past. I accept the fact that your grade
sucks because you missed that hard with your expectations. Yeah,

(19:01):
I thought that'd be horrible with the core situation and horrible.
What are we talking about? The bad? But they are
defen Look that deepense is still top league.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Listen, you're using you're using what I would dub the
ugly friend at the club defense. Okay, just because the
Saints and Raiders are a thing does not mean you
get to say you're good.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Fair point point, all right? The Dallas Cowboys three five
and one.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I mean, is it crazy for me to say this
is at or about where I thought they'd be anyway,
Like I mean, yeah, I mean the Parkers thing, Parker's
Parsons thing. I said, try to say Micah and Parsons
at the same time, and I came up with Parkins.
I don't know anyways, Micah, Yeah, exactly, practice.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Where there's many million, you.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Know, just because the expectations are low, and you did
help expose the Packers, I give you a little bit
of credit. But also there's a whole butt ton of
stupid with his team. I'm gonna say a see, because
I will give them a chance to improve. For me,
I won't crap all over them, you know, but I

(20:29):
will say a nice, firm c.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I wouldn't d because I thought it'd be a little
better than this.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, let's see, that's your fan boy sneaking in.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Stop it stop it stop it stop it stop stop
that stop that. I am not James. Yeah, for that joke,
I am a big Jim James. Okay, No, he's not
you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
He's not a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
He's a Chargers fans. He's on the way out, bro.
He can't stand Jerry Jones's Wolverines fan. Yeah, that have
to be a little better. Plus, I have that bet
my buddy who happens to be.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
A oh sorry, he's an Irish fan. I see, I
can't keep track of it all. Yes, takes your your
colors there.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I bet my buddy Mario like, who's a Hernela bet
where like I thought that I was nine plus games?
He said no, and he's got a white fan. I
almot good here, buddy, I'm about to pay him U
pretty soon. So all right, next team here, the Denver Broncos.
Who are I believe seven and two?

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Buddy?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I weird? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yes, yes, absolutely correct with the Broncos. I expected them
to be better than people expected. I did not have
seven and the two on the goddang Bingo cards. And oh,
by the way, there's a great argument for the to
be eight and one, and the only thing that stops
them from undefeated to this point is justin effing Herbert And.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Actually wait, wait, say hold on, it's funny he said
that because they can be nine and no, because the
other loss was the Indie which they had that game one.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
What I'm talking about exactly what you said, just they Yeah,
they would be eight and one with that game and
could be undefeated. If it weren't for Justin Herbert.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, that's what I was saying, right, yeah, so this team.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Is defending Super Bowl champs, including Oh, I mean the
rest of the schedule is relatively light. Granted, do I
expland to to to get to fourteen? Uh and and
three with the record? Hell to the now? To the now?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
No?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
No, So yeah, the back half of the schedule gets good.
Right if they opened with seven and two, which they have,
if they close, how many games they have remaining? If
they have nine at six?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Right? Yeah? Yeah? If they seven? Seven?

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Oh yeah it is yeah, yeah, it's eight, okay, will yeah, eight.
I had it messed up because I knew it would
be a five hundred record.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Eighteen.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
It's because you're all that's okay that but yeah, eight
games remaining. If they go four and four, I would
maintain with an A for the year.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Sure, So it's tough because the record is really really good.
I think the best record football, not mistaken.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Well, it's in the conversation, I think the right.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, well, the same record, but the stole points also
gonna get kind of bounce that out. You know, the
Giants game should have lost, but Giant the Giants the
Giants Giants, and of course you know what I mean.
So I wouldn't be because the in the day in
a wonky but B plus in a wonky season, I

(23:40):
gotta give him credit.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
What did you expect them to do that?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I thought they'd be a little worse than now. But
you know what, do you give me what you give them?
Hold on you give them? I gave him an A okay,
B plus for me? You're you're high. Well I wasn't
a sually. I'm still kind of high.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, So I mean, yeah, listen once the edible you
may want to like record a separate addition to this
particular part and edited in that you realize that you're
being cruel for no particular reason other than the sativa
is hitting a little too hard.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
You know what, fuck scham Peyton. Next team, Detroit Lions.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Oh okay, I didn't realize you carry on the six and.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
If five and three? Actually the Lions. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
When we talk expectations, as we often do in this process,
because they're a big part of where anybody ends up
grading them any team for that matter. With Detroit, I
didn't have clear expectations. It's a tough thing to get
as far as they get without getting there and then
come back to try to make a run and and listen,
the Packers loss isn't great, but I give you divisional

(24:47):
what is it divisional physics? Cool, same thing for losing.
I'm more hurt by the loss of the Vikings in
my mind, the question you should be right and losing
to the Chiefs. I mean, you know sometimes Levon Leavn's
it is what it is. But they do have good
rent wins against the Ravens. I think they were still
good at that point. Uh the Bucks, which was dominant

(25:11):
against the team. That's not great, but certainly at the
very least good. I would like to see more before
I get too inspired, but I'm happy to give him
a B B minus.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I went to see C plus. They're there their way
they should I thought they'd be a C plus and
l a slat C plus. They're there. They there, I
thought they'd be. I thought that did be a little
a questions to me. The really hurt though, because that's
if you're coming. Minnesota lost, that's cool, those divisional optics, man,

(25:47):
and maybe okay, okay, you win in the game my
three I cannderstand that office. But you lose them out
right to a returning Jitch McCarthy, a team that was
kind in shambles too.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Let's be real, Minnesota, that a great either just gotten
dominated by the Chargers on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
P Yeah, I mean what are we doing? I mean
your team was to look at the Super Bowl contender.
You see you put up bad like, okay, that's that's
a problem your case because I picked these win that game.
And there's no way I saw a world that I
see Mahomes and Andy Reid being too and four at
that point, I didn't see the world. But that loss
is bad. That the minitual losses are very, very bad.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
So if you didn't see a world where Mahomes and
Reid would be two and four, you haven't been paying
attention to the slow starts and the cheats Chiefs have
traditionally had, but never never that bad though, never that
and then they go on to the Super Bowl. No,
I don't agree. I believe they've been this bad before.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Now I think they were like three and three and like,
you know whatever, five hundred.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
But so it's one game different and you're not not fair.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
NFL is one game is worth like fucking eight in
the NBA. What we what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
I mean, but yet after one or two games, NBA
coaches be getting fired.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
But that's a seen because we have a lot of
we got a lot of stupid ass teams in the NBA.
You know, come on now, all right, the Green May Packers, uh,
who are five to one?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
You know, it's fun for us. As disappointing as the
Packers allegedly are, they're essentially five and three, which if
that's disappointing, maybe our expectations were too high. I think
they're right where they need to be. But it's some
of the losses that have just looked well, for lack
of a better word, awful, Right, So that's why what

(27:19):
I put them before see Minus. That's why they got
to see Minus.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Moving on, I gave a game as well, again for the.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Reason see but the damn Broncos can't get an a
out of you? What the fuck are we doing here?
He says, is where.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
He is where I thought they would be. But it
does feel kind of fake hustle to with this team
as well, Like they come out the gate week first
two weeks and they dominate Washington, dominate.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
The True Minus Like I am you just argued my
point because most of the fucking Browns, EJ. What are
we doing here? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I know, I know, I get it. I get it.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Points against the Cleveland brown they should be They should
be A B or A right now, Broy not So
it's some of some of these wins have they've eked
out And I don't know Joe Loveson has good, had
a good, Ear has had a good.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
And you won't join me at a C minus. I
don't get it, dude, se bro ce ce C minus. Okay,
when when the ballpark, like I'm saying, fucking like B
plus and you know, no, no, no, not garbage.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
All right, Next team Houston, You're not chasing the d.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Houston Texans who are fuck you met three and five.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
F an entire AF and not just for their actions
on the field.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Let me be clear.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
For one, Tamiko Ryans gets an f trying to act
like that his boy C. J. Stroud was this victim
after staring the camera in the face and defending a
h Al said uh uh against excuse me defending ode
Ear and his hit on Lawrence last year. So point

(29:00):
for that and no that's not me. Air quotes fan Boying.
That's me calling hypocrisy where I see it. Don't worry,
it'll come up with the Niners a little later. But
you've I've said it before on this podcast. I'm sure
EJ is the moment they got rid of laring me Tunsel.
I knew there were problems and I was right. GMing

(29:22):
already has them in trouble.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
C J.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Stroud has not been able to overcome. He is tanking
and by the way, no one is giving him a
fraction of the guff that one Trevor Lawrence has gotten.
But nobody wants to have that conversation because it's too smart.
They're not gonna get any better with Davis Mills at
the Helm either, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
They were trending that for me. But they they've also
won three games since the own three start, so they're
back in it. So I had to go d because
this is a thispointment because it should be leaning the division.
Obviously we all thought they would.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
They were supposed to be AFC contenders at one part
RCT correct.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
So there are different disappointments. The reason that happened an
f because they are still in it, because they've caught
and they and they still didn't and they didn't climb
out of own free hole. Easy f F plus.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
I would have called that, but in fairness, okay, well,
they beat a super injured Niners team and an awful
Titans team. The only air quotes good win would be
the Ravens, and if I remember correctly, that's that defense.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's the Mars. First game also missed no uh not
to be pretty Houston too. They were also someer injuries
well too. In that seam game. A lot of receives
are out.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
So we do not care. You're just giving me more
of a reason why it means less.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Okay, I get it it, Okay, I'm imagine, all right,
the Colts seven to two.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I've said it before, people have resisted incorrectly, but I'll
say it again. If this were an SEC team, you'd
be bitching about the fact they're even being considered for
the playoff. And guess what happened, J Christian. They played somebody,
not a great team, just a good team and lost
and lost suddenly too well.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I'm know about sound. Let's buy a touchdown now here
really close though, Here's.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Where I will give the Colts a little bit of grace.
Pointed they outperform my guy. I. I am on record
somewhere on the Duvall Dive with a former NFL tight
end Ben Trup and of course my personal champion, Travis D. Holmes,
saying I cannot find five wins on the Colts schedule

(31:31):
back to the August. Okay, and they've called me up
and said, hey, Kyle, here they are. But if you
need a couple more, we fucking got them for you too.
Jonathan Taylor is an MVP candidate. You can grammy your
dines into your couch because I'm not searching for them.
What I'm searching for is death for Jonathan Taylor held
any running back to get attention that isn't named Derek

(31:53):
Henry or Christian McCaffrey. Okay, this team is going to
get an A. I I'm going to dare them to
survive the rest of this schedule if you want an
A plus, but I expect they're grade to drop significantly
between now and January.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Totally with you A as well. Two. I'm worried now,
That's why that's what I lost. Kind of sucks with
them too, also because the perception now is like, Okay,
we'll ecn doubt. Now, Okay, you lose the second second
loss of a year, but now a little tough up
Chiefs two weeks and co other tough games coming up.
So see HOSK game altitude toughie as well. So you
look at the situation now where Okay, is there fake

(32:31):
hustle here with this team? I don't know, but they're
a great Where.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
In December they drop three straight games heading into week
seventeen not eighteen, but.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Run those three games. Run it.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Those three games are the Jaguars, which they have a
lot of trouble by that history of that ever bank,
I think if they lose this year, it's the twelfth
straight time they've lost it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's correct.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yes, of course it's correct. I cover the Jaguars in Yeah,
but if I don't say it hard, it's not genuine anyway.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
That's what we do here, brother. The Seahawks have surprised
a lot of us. Will get to that later. That's
a los. I'm gonna say it's a loss.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
And the Niners based on their health, you know, Oh.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Wake up there, I have questions you about the Niners
and their health. Yeah, and so give me They'll keep
it cults, all right, your your team, the Jaguars, who
are I think ey team that the Duval Dive covers
five and three? Lessen, explain this one.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I know that the Jaguars and and the Duval Devout
would pound the table hard back in September if I
said to them five and three at this point of
the year, because the way that schedule opened, and oh,
by the way, that's with a sneaky good emerging Seahawks team.
The really the biggest disappointment in my opinion on the

(33:57):
Jags schedule is clearly the Bengals game where they lost
to a friggin too Yeah, after knocking Burrow Joey Burr out,
no one had back to back wins over the Niners
and Cheaps. Though I am on record saying if I
was to take this Jags team seriously as a playoff threat,
even though I mentioned them as my crack headiest prediction

(34:19):
in September, you see, I'm hesitating because it's just they
lost to two good teams. They've beaten two good teams.
They snuck by a Raiders team where if you look
on that final plane overtime on the two point conversion,

(34:40):
that if Devon Hamilton does not bat that ball down.
There is a wide ass open Tyler Lockett, who is
doing the surrender cobra in midair once the ball is batted,
because he knows he had it and it was taken
from him, which, by the way, excellent point by Julian
Edelman in the post game mentioning that you knew Pete
Carroll was gonna throw it on the goal line anyways.

(35:03):
By the way, also worth mentioning that the Jaguars kept
running the fucking football to secure the victory in overtime.
Make sure you look at that anyways. Give me agreed,
Pete Carroll sucks anyway?

Speaker 6 (35:16):
You still hat Pete Carrol? My god, Oh, it never
goes away. He's Oh I know, I know, I know.
He's overrated. Man, You know how I feel about that.
You have to take you have to pick a B right.
I picked this team to win eight games this year.
What they've achieved in the first half of football for
the season is beating last year's record, which, okay, low bar,

(35:40):
I get it. But they have five of those eight
wins I predict with a garbage schedule remaining, I can
make the argument their toughest remaining team is in fact
the Los Angeles Chargers, who are currently injured AF themselves,
and then after that playing the Colts twice, and the
Broncos are there too. We'll see where they're at December.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
I think there's still some I mean, the Broncos are
a tough team too, no question, I think those but
those are the three three teams remaining that are tough
on their schedule. Everything else is Texans twice, Titans twice, Cardinals, Jets.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
If you can't land the plane with four and four,
you're already.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well actually my doing the bath right because they're five
and three. Yeah, it's not four and four.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
If you can't land the plane with five and four
and make the playoffs, you don't deserve higher than to be.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
But for today, I'll give them a big I'm gonna
give them a C. See plus actually see plus is perfect, yeah,
because the only thing I that's troubling here, and I
don't know how you how much, how much weight you
put in this. You know they have a winning record
with a minus eight point evidential. He won't come to
that one, I get it, but you know his thing though,

(36:55):
they are kind of where I thought they would be anyway,
This one year.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
The only reason, the only reason they're there with that
point to differential EJ is m v P John Matthew
Stafford right, VP candidate John Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Excuse me, I thought the Jacks will be hanging around
anyway for the division title. Hanging around?

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Sure, I thought the division.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I thought I thought they'd be anywhere between a eight
win and a ten win team this year. So they're
on target for that. Actually more on talk for that.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, that's the point I made with eight wins. So,
but but it does feel like who is this team?
I don't know so and you you will know even
less because of all the injuries. They're like, sure they'll
be getting Britain Strange back soon. He's still had a
couple of weeks as an emergency emerging tight end. Uh
something on I R B TJ's hurt. Devin Lloyd is

(37:47):
actually supposed to come back this week. Uh So there's
been significant injury impacts to every team's No, this is different.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
So I need trouble launching stuff the fuck up the
second half of the year, like to really become the
guy that we thought he'd be after this drafted.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Final drive in the Raiders game should be the first
step to what you're looking for.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
I agree, right, all right, next team can't see the
Chiefs who are five to four, see like I'm there,
I don't know what to do with them.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
You trust them, you trust them to be there in
the end.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
I trust Andy Reid, I trust Patrick Levin Mahomes the
second and that's about it. But do you need more?

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I sure the Buffalo loss wasn't surprising. I thought they
lose that game any way too, also because that's what
they do, because Buffalo. But it wasn't must when for
for two reasons. I will say this because of their schedule,
because they you know, yeah that game was Buffalo. Then
he got Denver after the buy, and then you have
the Colts after that. So that's the reason why opening
with the Chargers.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Really, that's what we're doing now.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
No, I'm not saying that these couple of weeks coming up,
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
But I'm just noting your disrespect for the Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
But but knowing the Chiefs. Though people say the tough schedule,
watch these assholes win in a row and those two
games in a run away, because that's what they do.
That's when we cut them out like Detroit, Remember Detroit. Oh,
they're fucking Detroit. And then he blew them out.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
But again, you're bringing previous years into this year's grading evaluation.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
And I'm a little guilty of it too, because those
guys to stole there and I'm told they are left
for dead. I'm gonna come to in trust in them.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
I'll say this. All three teams that they lost to,
minus the Bills, were expected to be tough games. The
Bills were a little surprising because they're skidding and and
and and now that you know that, winning that game
was the Bills are back moment for for Bills Mafia.
So like, I almost kind of will let they've won

(39:42):
what the ciosed too and lost ones that were tough
except for the Lions, So right.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Okay, Next one the Vegas Raiders, who are two and six.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Trash.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's easy, same here, easy easy, and.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Respect to brock Powers and and all al genty by
the way, but like or Ashton genty, Sorry, the Raiders
were the best version of the Raiders team we had
seen all the all year, and they still lost to
a depleted Jackson Pete Carroll sucks.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Next question, the Chargers who are six and three.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
If you put them in anything less than an A,
tell me you don't respect offensive line play. Without telling
me you don't respect offense, you're gonna hate me because
you're wrong, and you can continue to be wrong. All
you're doing is proven. You've not watched a single Town
of Chargers football all year. Just don't watch them.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I have because they played my team this year. They
played this team this year and lost. What's that play
this team and lost this year? That doesn't make any sense.
The charge pe the Giants this year and lost. Okay,
and how many you said I din't watch the play,
I watch the plate, I watch them plays of giants.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
What does the Giants have to do with you watching games?
You're a Cowboys fan?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Moving on to calm down?

Speaker 4 (41:02):
You keep taking the same.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I gave a C because here's why. No, it's unaccepted.
Here's why it's unaccepted. But here's the thing, though, they're
doing what I thought they would do. It you didn't.
You didn't think you didn't.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
They didn't think of it. With ray Sean Slater out
and Joel All missing games and Khalil Maner going.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
On IR the second week vision this bro I had
them winning the division, so technically they're actually a little
less thought so anything.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
You're you're the worst Chiefs fan I've ever seen. So wait,
so they're right on pace while being severely limited for
six wins, and you only give them a C with
division they had, with their top defensive pass rusher out,
with two of their top you know V two opt
off in, top offensive lineman out, and what else? Oh yeah,

(42:00):
and at some point Derwin James missed some games too
as well, if I remember correctly. So yeah, you're just wrong.
The answer is, I'm going to say a B, but
there's a strong argument for an A here. And by
the way, justin Herbert MVP conversation.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, yeah, I'm there, I'm there.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Just look at how much they throw the fucking ball.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Ej oh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
I forgot to mention Najie Harris and Omari and Hampton
missing time as well. But no, please tell me about
how they're a C and the words have red from
that seventies show.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Dumbass like that one, you big man? All right? All right?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
L A rams l A rams all day every day.
If you have them at anything less than an A,
you need to pack up your fucking microphone and stop podcast,
or at least at least convert at least convert to
a policy format B plus a bitch plus.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'll say why the reason why would be stop?

Speaker 4 (43:08):
You said B plus plus plus. What the fuck are
we doing right now?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Adding plus is buddy?

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
The reason that gave man that's terrible. Hey, this is
why you roll. Uh. The reason why game would be
the hope is because the fact that they that Niners game.
You're still won that game.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
It's that's usually I get it on a short week
without see this is now. I know you don't pay
any attention to West Coast games.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's Niners country.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
To buddy, that is a quirky rivalry. It is fucking wacko.
It might be all logic you're going to completely leave
out by the way that they are only one score
away from beating the defending Super Bowl champions. That's cute,
actually beating the Colts. Course, although you can make the

(43:55):
argument that they should have lost that game, fine, whatever,
mm hmm. And seriously, I can see a little bit
of the fraud argument in some of the wins, perhaps,
but man, uh, with them doing what they with them
revitalizing Davante Adams with that defense being is just absolutely

(44:17):
awesome as it is.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I mean, it'scyle. Here's the thing, though, they're not a fraud.
They they are they are a stender, I said, I
said the podcast, how do they not get a name?
Follow me? Because because they're where they are where I
thought they'd be. They are who we thought they were too,
I thought they'd be this point. And here's the thing,
also to you more from little Sean McVay is and
a wacky in a wacky season right now. As you've seen,

(44:43):
there were only three teams in the league. I trust
they're one of the three.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Okay, Chiefs Eagles, Chiefs Eagles and Rams seven and one
is the only way you can get an a boyd.
That's some bullshit. I'll leave it at that. And by
the way, as a member of the division, and you
just told me was the best in the n f L, Okay,
I said, Arguably he was. Arguably that doesn't change. That
does not change my answer. Arguably, one of the toughest

(45:11):
divisions in the league has one of their losses in
a weird divisional rivalry and the defending Super Bowl Chances
champions both engaged in games decided by a score.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
You big mad bro.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
No, you big dog, I'm not. I'm not trying to
give these fools props.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I know all right. Next team Dolphins, Uh TOI is
two sevens?

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
They got F plus.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Now that would be an F minus. You're looking for
plus M plus worse than F minus. No, F minus
is lower. See minus is no, I'm bolding the whole
bad here. Let me help you F minus minus.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Fine minus minus. Next team, uh, Minnesota Vikings. Oh, by
the way, good on them for getting rid of Chris Greer.
By the way, continues to four and four likes.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Boy, this is confusing.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
It is confusing.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Listen. I see so yeah. Well, and if if that
isn't proof of your confusion, I don't know what more
is right? Uh? I mean scoring only one touchdown against
the fraud Uh the fraud cons is one thing. I mean,
here's the thing. They don't have a loss here that
I would call a bad loss. And then they beat

(46:38):
the Lions.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Damn it.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
I gotta go see plus.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I think you're on the side. No, I'm with you
on that because here's the thing too. Also, they navigate
the car. I thought Carson Bunch was actually okay for
the most part. He did. Okay, it was horrible.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
You may have you may have missed that Thursday game
against the Chargers because you obviously don't.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Know the bad. That was the bad. That was the
bad performance. But then okaycause the Eagles, he was a
kay against another team that they played, you know, a
week before that. He made some big thorls with the
Browns in that Sunday So in London North Island, Hurda
was so they did okay, holding the fourth that without him,
but McCarthy for those a couple weeks, so see is
where it should be. I'm with you, you said, ce plus,
I'm with you, all right. Oh boy, here we go

(47:20):
the New England Patriots, who was seven and two. This
one's fucking hard. I'll do you say right now, if
I'm just grading on the first nine weeks of the year,
they got a plus.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
They are way better than I thought. I did not
see it. I did bro. Everybody everybody was saying eight
half wins over possible wildcard team. I didn't see it.
And then I'm seeing this ship.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
I'm like, oh, okay, okay, let's have a conversation because
their schedule is ass in the words of Agreed, Agreed,
the only reason anybody was talking playoffs for this team
was that the schedules that easy, right, And it's funny
how people came out, Oh the niners of nah, fam,
this is easy. This is what easy looks like. In

(48:12):
an AFC East that is awful this year, and the
team that was supposed to be clearly dominant tanked. So no,
and listen, division physics in the AFC East are special
in their own right as well. I will give the
only reason I'm not giving you a D because I'm

(48:32):
insulted by your fraud is because you expose the Falcons,
so their wins are as follows. Browns are in Saints. No,
they lost to the Raiders. Excuse me Brown's Type one dolphins,
which again divisional physics, I get it. And the Panthers
m just looks like a decent wind now not really, No,

(48:58):
like decent at best. I guess I'll meet you at
I don't know. People are peeing their parts entirely too much,
saying stupid ship like Drake May for m v P.
What the fuck is going on here? Now Here's what
I'll tell you. I expected an uptick from last year

(49:18):
because Rabel was a coach who should not have been
fired in Tennessee hashtag. I said, but it's said they are,
they are overachieving.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I'd agree on that.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Do they deserve better than to see because of that?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Of course?

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yes, be minus, but y'all better beat somebody if you
want to be your better to finish the year. It
did be Buffalo while they were struggling individual physics like
the game. The games I'll be watching close are if
they if they if they have another close game to
the Bills for the second one that they're hosting.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
There's a bus game there. All that for a fact,
I'm getting there.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Uh, I'm good that that will help their if they
the Bucks are on the road as well, that.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Will be interesting to observe.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Uh. The Raveish on the schedule is the last get
and depending on their status. Hell, who knows. Like there's
a long way between now and Christmas.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Eve Eve, eve Eve. Let me be clear with you, Kyle,
real quick. Yeah, there's seven and two over achieve and
I agree, are they super the tenders? In my opinion? No,
I gotta see more. I'm with you on that part,
but I'm great saying be minus. But if I'm grading
the first nine weeks, I have to give what I've
seen firs nine weeks. They over the more order chief
of me because I didn't see this coming. Did actually

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because the mean I should, I should pull what I should?
Just pull it that you say, give them a with
some moove for growth, as you always say on.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
This, and you need to give the concos an a two.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Let me make a trade. Shut up. You need to
get that's what you're doing. But never expect, never replace,
expect this from the little bit.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
You did not expect seven and two from the broncos.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
You're a little bit maybe a little bit maybe a
little bit. Let me a little fake news there, servant A.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
You just proved it.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Okay, all right, New Len Saints uh uh Saints of
One ionic that they have a quarterback named Spencer Rattler
because this franchise is snake bit. They got D minus
for me, and I'll tell you why. Let me tell
you I got D minus. They actually are better than
I thought they would be. I'm joking, bro bro Kyle.
You you're laughing, by mean serious laughing because I think

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you're wrong. I said, I said before your started, Dad.
This is a team that might go on seventeen and
they make and they make competitive half these games.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Oh you see you're giving you're giving reports for more
are rewards for more of this way?

Speaker 2 (51:43):
They are, in my opinion, on the worsting football. Now
they're not. This team is cheeks, but they still gave
you something to clap about.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
I'm with that.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
There you go, maybe speaking of cheeks by New York
Giants two and seven cheeks my New York Giants.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
You know they say the sign of a fit booty
is that you could bounce a quarter off of it. Ironically,
they bounced a dime off theirs and got worse.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
So that's from the hamp Son it is.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
I really have no idea how I came up with
that like that.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
That was anyways, No, Yeah, the Giants are bad. Can
we move on? At least I made it entertaining.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
How they beat. They beat the chart and it's fair
because they beat the Eagles and the Chargers, two good teams.
I'm not mad at that. I give them an F
because I see the fraud. One is the divisional thing.
The Eagles always seem to piss around and lose to
one of their divisional rivals that they shouldn't at least once,
if not twice a year. The Chargers were in such
samples with Joe out and raised on Slater being hurt.

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I think Joe Walt may still have been playing at
that point. Khalil Mack was out and the emergence of
Cam Scataboo, the league was not ready for him quite yet.
So just on the strength if you want to give
me a sale for a D minus, just on the
strength strength of releasing uh Scataboo cool. But now that

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he's hurt the cheeks again, I'll tell you what I'll
give him. With D and honor of Jackson Dart.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Everything falls on Jackson dark and because he's been very
very good so far. Is White not and f I
don't know about very very but he's doing and he's
doing that with the weapons he's especially was out for
the year. Uh he lost his other second receiver for
a chunk of the stretch. They have a lot of injuries. Obviously,
the Scattaboo thing not standing the course, so them in

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competitive now. Obviously, the scheduled injury I think took the
soul from the team because they ever since that injury
they looked lost, so d's why so, but I the whole,
the the Giants. The priority here is development of dark
so that matters for now. I wouldn't mind.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
What do you picked thee It had to be consistent, Yeah, exactly, Okay,
that's say New York the Jets, who are one and.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Next D minus this one. You're an idiot. They could
have been competitive, competitive andrey competitive year.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
You're you're, you're, you're pension for Steelers should be the
Bucks me and Steelers de minus the make competitive.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Aaron Lennison lost that team.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Yet you need to say that with your Trump voice
if you're gonna do this, because you're trying to hustle
me right here.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Be weird,
all right. The Eagles six and six and seven, and
I think rather.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Six two, sorry six, having achieved seven and two, even
with some of the alleged drama and bad optics.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I'm gonna give him a pee. I think that's what
sa me. I'm a fee you know. And Jealen Hurts
I think has grown a lot this year. Anything he
showed me, he's he's asking better, even better than I
thought he was It's good he's wouldn't be bitching, but true.
But but Jalen hurts guy. But it's the two games
where like they need him to win the game for them,

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and he's done that and won the game for them.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
He is the next edition of a young Russell Carrington Wilson.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I agree, that's correct that I totally on that one.
All right, uh almost done here the Steelers who are
currently five or three.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
God, this is a hard one to invest, you know,
but the Steelers are doing Steeler things. And I know
I preach not to grade based on the previous year.
So where I'm at is is I thought the Rogers
experiment was going to be an abject disaster, and then

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they turn around and you know, hold firm and beat
the Colts. You know, So losing to the Seahawks, we listen,
that looked bad at the time. We're realizing the Seahawks
are a decent thing, right, Losing to the Bengals divisional
physics are a thing. I get it. Still humiliated losing
to the Packers that was a vergain revenge game for
the Packers. Fuck all, y'all. I think that's just the

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same as the divisional game.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
For me.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
So with all that in mind, like the most impressive
win is exposing the Colts as frauds, which I take
a lot to heart personally, and it made me smile
in that way. But five and three is still five
and three. Give me B minus C plus yeah, yeah, see,
give me c.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Okay, this is whom we grow like. I do think
there dangerous though, yes.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
There is room for improvement. I agree with that. And
their closing schedule is relatively weak minus two games against
the Ravens and the Lions, right, oh and the Bills
and the.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Bills still relatively to top Lineman's there. But yeah, they
can get better. Levins could get better. Aarondgs get better.
Who knows? So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
I don't know A plus forty year old dude gets better.
I think, just maybe play better. I'm saying play better.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
It's not play bad this record, you know. But yeah,
all right, your boys and Niners who are six and three. Surprisingly,
my god.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
I you know the correct answer. Let's lead with this,
the correct answer. For the San Francisco forty nine ers.
This should be the first year I think I did
it maybe one other time, like a decade ago. This
is This is the first year that I could make
a case for two teams to have an incomplete card.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Yet here are the Niners at six and three, and
they had to shoot themselves in the foot roup heatedly
to lose to the Jaguars. They lost to the Texans.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Boy was that awful?

Speaker 4 (57:32):
And also I think it matters too that they were
hyped up for Demico Ryans facing his former team. I
think that's the thing that matters. You know, call me
crazy if you're so inclined, but you're crazy. Sorry, I mean,
just because you're correct there doesn't mean I'm wrong about
my assessment.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Right.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
The Niners have been doing a lot with you know, bonding, wired,
chewing gum, a hockey ticket, and masking tape. Right, they
don't even get duct tape, you know. I think I
think the Rams will smash them this weekend. So if
you're listening to this and think my B plus is
too low should they beat the Rams on Sunday here,

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please feel free to mark me in as an a
at that point for the Niners. But yeah, I I
have to go with the God this is really hard.
I'm going to say B plus so I don't get
accused of being a homer. But if they end up
sweeping the Rams after this weekend, you need to jack
that ship to an a period. Yeah, that's alternating between

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mccorkyl Jones and Brock Party at quarterback. That's missing Bosa Warner,
so many defensive players. You know what?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Fuck it?

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Hey, why want why?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I want to? I just have b plus I say
you know what, No, you got reward this This is
exactly why content hit right now? Is pikelch of the year?

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Yeah if that if if he if he sneaks this
team into the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
C O T y all Day, Yeah, why it's obviously
Seams Tyking and and it's this guy so unbelievable what
you're doing here? All right? Come more teams out here? Uh,
Seattle Seahawks who are six and two as well?

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Hey, safense is great, the offense is acceptable. Mm and
then and arguably the toughest division in the NFL. Next question,
the kid and Jig was amazing.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Jason Jason Jackson ning But Jackson, yeah, he's really really
good as Donald Jags.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
It was embarrassing for them.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
How about Sam Donald? Every bad now.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Really good, He's he's been very consistent, He's managed the
game well, and the Seahawks defense is carrying this.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Jack Sam Donald top talking record you know.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Say that again, Gilmore girls.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Sam Donald's top twelve cor record league right now? Oh
of course, okay, good, I'm glad you were. Because people
say didn't do? Are't that cool?

Speaker 4 (59:55):
They're also idiots?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Next question? Yeah? Cool? All right? The tim Buccaneers six
and two, your boy m VP candidate in Mayfield.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Right, hey, all day, especially with the injuries. I only
what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
A minus? But yeah, same for the reason, same reason.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
You know what, I will go to an a minus.
I'm gonna match you there that that Lions game not great, Bob,
but uh, beyond that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
They were there were bangups over that game, but give
been a little better. I'm with you. Moving on, Okay,
we the same page. Okay, cool? All right? Uh ship
to our teams Tennessee Stans. Yeah, that's easy one and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Cam War It's so hard. This offensive line is so
fucking bad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
It is horrible. All right. Finally, Washington commanders who are
three and six her Now is that official? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
That is official. I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna do. It.
I think this is the second This is a second
incomplete card, though I did eventually end up giving the
Bengals an F on the strength of poor GM decisions.
It's different with the Red Tails, sorry, commanders, because Scary
Terry's been hurt, Daniels is hurt, obviously been hurt part

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of this, and yeah, correct, you're not wrong. Yeah, I'm
gonna go with the old I on and and if
you think it's a cop out, fine, I got it.
But I this this team is not that's not only
not who we expected, but it's not fair to have
expectations for them at this point with all that misfortune.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I went D for that same reason. This is winning.
But I can't go crazy and say that it's a
failure because you mentioned those injuries are a thing. You
also I have to, you know, Grein on a curve there,
That's why. And I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
I can't give somebody a D because that still tells
me they're just bad, bad, But I think the injuries
put them there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
So that's why one point for a point for point,
I think, uh, that is it for us. We got
a ride right right eleven? Thok at that bro, Look
at that good the shit talent bitch. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
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