Sean O'Connell Show w/Brice and Bianucci - Full POD 11-14-25

New Coordinator's Corner with Jason Beck, Brice Larson & Jordan Bianucci talk Big 12 FB with Shehan Jeyarajah, Sports betting with Lee Sterling, Airing of Grievances, Knowing notable jersey numbers + more

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Away we go on the Sean O'Connell Show on a
football Friday edition of the program, No Sean O'Connell this morning. No,
you may recognize my voice by now, I'm Bryce Larson.
That's Jordan Bianucci. It's bryceon Bianucci filling in four to
one Shan O'Connell on ESPN seven hundred ninety two one
FM here this morning. We appreciate you for being here

(00:50):
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on a Friday edition, our friend Chianja Raza is going

(01:13):
to join us, coming up here from CBS Sports at
eleven thirty. We'll talk to him about some college football
and more. Of course, Lee Sterling stops by for a
Friday conversation, as Sean does every single Friday on this program,
and then Jason Beck is gonna pop on in for
a coordinator's Corner conversation. That was Sean O'Connell that did

(01:36):
that interview earlier on in the week that we'll play
that for you coming up here at one pm later
on the program. As I mentioned, Jordan Bianucci along alongside
me here in the studio, Jordan, appreciate you being here
with me on a Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Hey, I'm feeling good, glad to be here. Usually we're
by the time we hit eleven o'clock, we're a little
back in bed, we're a little sluggish after doing the
morning show. But last night went to bed early because
Thursday Night football was the Jets and the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Less than inspiring.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I watched the I watched through the mid third quarter
and I was like, yeah, I think I'm good. To
be honest, the Jets made it more competitive than I
thought they would.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
The nice thing about this Friday is that it is
a loaded, jam packed weekend of sports that we've got
coming your way. A lot of stuff, plenty of NFL football,
a loaded slate of Sunday football coming up on Sunday,
but also college football, and it's a huge college football
weekend this weekend. Of course, your utes on the road

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at Baylor as they get ready for another Big twelve matchup.
This thing opened up according to ESPN bet at seven
and a half. It's now moved up to nine and
a half on ESPN Bet in favor of Utah on
the road. And let's jump right into that conversation, Jordan,
because Utah football, of course, with the latest edition of

(02:57):
the College Football Playoff rankings right on the cusp of
getting into that college football Playoff. They need some help
with some teams in front of them. But it should
be another exciting weekend of college football here well.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
And this is a great matchup for you, tom They
match up so well against Baylor. What does Baylor have
a problem with stopping the run? What does Utah sell
at running the football? Baylor not great at protecting the quarterback?
You get John Henry Daily after Sawyer Robertson. A lot
of things are going to have to go wrong for

(03:29):
Utah to lose this football game. And that's a good
thing because I think Utah needs to beat Baylor convincingly
just for the style points. I think that does matter
right now for Utah.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, strangely enough, news coming down from the college football
world that Baylor athletic director Mac Rhodes has stepped away
not only from his spot as the athletic director, but
also the College Football Playoff Committee where he is currently
the committee chairman and Jordan they're going to replace him
with one Mark Harlin.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
So that's news that came down yesterday.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
That is very important news for the future of the
college football Playoff And then of course you've got your
check that comes over from Arkansas, that's going to be
the committee chairman who's going to go out and speak
to the media and do all that stuff. But Harlan's
actually on the committee for college football Playoffs now, and
we'll be in those conversations now. Of course, there's the
refusal of any Big Twelve teams that are spoken about.

(04:27):
He has to leave the room. Any teams that he
has connections to, he'll have to leave the room. So
how much does it help the Big Twelve to have
him on that College Football Playoff committee? But all of
this comes at a time when Utah is going to
go on the road to play Baylor, and there's some
distractions out there right now for the Baylor athletic department,
it's in turmoil.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I don't know, I mean talk about two programs going
different directions. We're I don't know what's going on at Baylor,
but it is not good. Your football coach, it's you know,
widely believed is gone after this year. Your ad, like
you said, just stepped away. I don't know that that's

(05:07):
a mess down there. But I'll tell you this about
Harlan doesn't hurt him being on the committee. You can
argue with the recusal, you can't really lobby for Utah.
It does not hurt happen him there.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Though.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It'll be interesting to see how the College Football Playoff
Committee moves forward without mac Roads and what those explanations
are and if it changes much in what we see
in terms of what goes on in those College Football
Playoff rankings. But right now, I mean, the Big Twelve
has been pretty favored. It seems like with the spots
that they have been given, at least early on in

(05:42):
the first rankings. I think a lot of people are
surprised at how far up BYU Texas Tech Utah were
It's funny because there's this sentiment now looming that if
things happen a certain way, as more college Football Playoff
ranking come out, the less favored the Big Twelve will

(06:03):
be down the road, and that the committee sentiment of
what they've seen in terms of the body of work
from these Big twelve teams will change a little bit.
The closer we get to the actual college Football Playoff rankings,
the final ones that come out that actually mean something here.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Well, look, it hurt Utah to a certain degree that
BYU got just dominated in Lubbock because Utah lost a
close game to BYU. That loss doesn't look and we're
I'm nitpicking here, but that loss doesn't look quite as
great after you get just the Cougars get dominated in
Lubbock and then drop those those five spots. But yeah,

(06:42):
I mean, overall, three teams, all of which have losses,
have a legitimate shot at getting into the College Football Playoff.
That's a step forward. Look at the beginning of this
season on our morning show, we were really skeptical when
Brett Yormark favored the the college Football Playoff expansion plan

(07:02):
where the Big Twelve wasn't guaranteed just two teams he
wanted to go. You know what, No, well, we're not
guaranteed two spots. We'll take our chances with at large bids.
And we thought this guy's out of his mind, a
little risky based on the College Football Playoff committee not
exactly loving the Big twelve last year. But it's looking

(07:23):
good right now. He's looking yeah, pretty smart.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So along the lines of that same discussion, now all
of the reports on the college football Playoff in the
future of it, the expansion, everything, apparently it has to
be voted on by the end of December, so you
are going to get a lot of news about the
college Football Playoff, the way that it expands, the new
rules and everything voted on by college or by conference

(07:49):
commissioners in the next two months, well month and half really,
because we're halfway through the month of November right now.
That's going to be a sixteen team playoff expand they're
talking about that. Also, the seating rules. Right last year,
we had different seating rules than we see this year.
It's one through twelve this year that determines your seeding
instead of the weird way that had you know, first

(08:11):
round buys and everything last year. Then of course, the
way that how many automatic bids conferences get into the
new playoff. That's all going to be voted on in
the next month and a half here, and we'll talk
with you and Jay Raja about it a little bit.
That's some news that's going to be important for the
Big twelve moving forward because there has been a lot
of battle back and forth between Greg Sank and all

(08:35):
of these conference commissioners, Brett your mark to decide what
the best style is, what the best rules are, and
the way that this all shapes up for next year's
college football playoff.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
That news is coming here soon.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they decide. Has
your opinion changed on the four plus four so SEC
Big ten get four teams in it and then Big
twelve Autumn attic two bid league, or have you changed
and go now, let's just take our chances with some
at large bids as the Big Twelve.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I might be a little bit leaning towards what your
Mark was saying. Now I think I have shifted a
little bit because I see that they are going to
be somewhat favorable. I'm gonna put myself in wait and
see mode, though, because this might be just you know,
a little bit of fools gold with the first couple
of rankings saying, okay.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
We respect you the Big Twelve.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But as the as these rankings continue to come out,
there might be some ways that these this College Football
Playoff Committee can just pull the rug right underneath us.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Well, I'll say this, there are three at least three
teams maybe four in the Big Twelve that I think
you can pretty reliably count on to be at the
top of be in there for a conversation with college footballlayoff.
And that's BYU, Utah and Texas Tech. Because it was
Utah two years ago. Then BYU showed that I think

(09:56):
they can consistently be right there, and then this year
with the Cody Williams opening up the wallet, Texas Tech
should be there every year, they should be right there.
And then you add teams like Iowa State, UH and
I mean honestly TCU should should be better than they
are consistently, and then oh in Arizona State. So I
mean my opinions shifted a little bit in that there

(10:19):
are four teams that should be legitimate contenders in the
College Football Playoff pretty much every year.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
It's Cody Williams country singer.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
What's his name? Who's what's his actual name? Cody Campbell,
Kobe Campbell? Think who is Cody?

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Who's Cody? I don't know? Cody Johnson. There you go,
jazz man. Cody Williams funding Texas Tech out there in love.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
He's got some hobbies on the side.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I'm just messing with you, Cody Campbell.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, No, I agree with what you're saying in the
sentiment of the college football playoff and what what's to
come here? And this is going to be an exciting
month or so and month and a half where we're
going to find out what the future this callege football
playoff looks like. What Brett, you or Mark and how
much power the rest of college football actually has.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
The one thing that's going.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
For the rest of college football is the fact that
the SEC and the Big Ten still somehow are attached
to G five Conference commissioners and the American Athletic Conference,
the Mount West Conference commissioners are going to side with
the Big twelve and the ACC somewhat to get the
most access to the playoff that the rest can possibly have.

(11:29):
Now a little refresher, because I think this gets very confusing.
This is one of the college football's biggest problems is
that not enough people.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
They've made it.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
So so hard to understand, and their marketing of the
College Football Playoff and the way that they make this
so confusing is just awful. So here's a little refresher
on the College Football Playoff seeds one through twelve. The
rankings will seed though where you are at in those

(11:59):
they'll see the bracket by the rankings the College Football Playoffs, if.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
You win a conference championship doesn't come into play as
far as seating goes.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
As far as seating goes, that's correct. Okay, all that
matters is where you're ranked. Now, remember there are five
total conference champions that get in no matter what. There's
only four Power four leagues. That means one G five
is going to get in no matter what. The College
Football Playoff Committee continues to rank after twenty five until
they find the first G five champion that's the next

(12:30):
team in. They will very likely be the twelfth seed
because they will be ranked lower than the ACC's champion,
who's ranked lower than the Big twelve and everybody else
at this moment in time.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
We'll see if that changes. But I don't think it
will change.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
So that means that G five team will very likely
be the twelfth seeded team. ACC champion very likely going
to be the eleventh seeded team. That means the cutoff
right now is at number ten. Texas is the last
team in. Oklahoma will be the first team out, and BYU.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Is the second team out.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Where it stands right now, Texas number ten, Oklahoma number eleven,
BYU number twelve.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Utah's the third team out.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Utah to get into the College Football Playoff would have
to climb up to number ten in the committee's rankings
because you have a G five champion and the ACC
champion that will be eleven and twelve.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Does that make sense? We're all on the same page.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I got youa Okay, So you need, if you are
a Utah fan, Notre Dame to lose to Pittsburgh this weekend.
This is who you're cheering for, cheering for Pittsburgh. You
need Texas to lose to Georgia this weekend, and you
need Oklahoma to lose to Alabama this weekend. That's what

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you're looking at in terms of teams that you want
to lose. Now, if you want to go other teams
that are around you. Vanderbilt right behind at number fourteen,
wouldn't hurt to get them a third loss, and then
Miami at number fifteen wouldn't hurt to bump them down.
But they are the current acc quote unquote champion. They're
going to be number eleven anyway.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Who I'm worried about. And Vanderbilt has a buy this week,
but they next two games. I am slightly concerned about Vanderbilt.
I do not trust the committee to not let an
SEC team jump over Utah. Vandy has Kentucky, which if
they win that game that shouldn't matter, but then they
play at Tennessee. If Vanderbilt goes into Tennessee and beats

(14:31):
Tennessee that last weekend of the season and Utah is
still one spot ahead of Vanderbilt, that scares me a little.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
The one thing we've talked a lot about is the
advanced analytics and how much this committee has loved advanced analytics.
Right well, the advanced analytics leans towards Utah in terms
of SP plus over Vandy because Utah number seven right
now in SP plus, Vanderbilt comes in at number sixteen.
And I think the reason why they were talking and

(15:00):
they've put Vanderbilt behind Utah with both two teams have
two losses is because of those advanced analytics, and that
is one thing that will go your way when they're
talking about, Okay, this Vandy team versus this Utah team,
where do we think they are? Okay, we'll go with
Utah because that's what the advanced analytics say. Right now,
what where's Tennessee on the S and P plus? Because

(15:24):
I got a little bit conspiracy theory with Tennessee. Let
me do a quick shirt, real quick. Tennessee comes in
at number twenty six.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Okay, are there just you probably don't know offhand because
we don't cover balls football very closely. But I wonder if.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Excuse me, that was sorry, I have to correct myself.
This thing auto searched to a different strength of schedule.
They have the twenty six SP plus strength of schedule.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Strength of schedule.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Their sp plus comes in at number seventeen, right behind Vanderbilt.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
So decent. Here's my conspiracy theory. Their resume sucks. Tennise,
the falls, the valls the only thing they have going
for them. It's similar to Notre Dame, except Notre Dame
at least has a win over ranked team. It's similar
that we talked about Notre Dame though, where it's like
the best thing about your resume is that you lost

(16:16):
to good teams. So Tennessee's best win. They don't even
have a win over a team that's Bowl eligible at
this point, like they are their best win. Their best
thing about their resume is getting blown out by Alabama
and losing close games to Oklahoma and whoever else. Right,
there's one other ranked team, currently ranked team that they've

(16:37):
lost to, So they have no business being in the
top twenty five over a team like over like Cincinnati
last week. I'm glad Cincinnati's back in this week. They
they moved up anyway in the top twenty five. So
my conspiracy theory is this with Tennessee, they are in
there to allow a reason for vander Built to vault ahead.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
That's my conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
No, I've actually we've discussed this in previous years, where
there is a lot of shenanigans that happen at the
back end of those those rankings to give them a
quote unquote ranked win. Right, as you just barely mentioned,
they love their wins against ranked opponents. Now that Tennessee
jumps up to number twenty three, there's a chance that

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they get that win over Tennessee and that's another ranked
win on the resume.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
That's a good point, even though even though that would
be their fourth loss, and by the way, that would
drop them out of the top twenty five and the
next rankings, which that's the whole there. I have a
huge problem with the way that we consider what we
consider wins over ranked opponents.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
It should be what their ranking is today.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
There should not be like Georgia Tech, their sid department
is going to be talking about their ranked win over
Clemson earlier this year, and for eternity, Clemson is is
what three and four, four and five. Yeah they're not,
they haven't been ranked since that game in September. But
yet that's gonna be considered a ranked win in there

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in Georgia Techs records, and a rank and a and
a loss as a ranked team in Clemson's records.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Right.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
I don't think that the committee quite does that same thing,
but they do contradict themselves in those situations. In this
scenario that you just talked about, where it's like, oh, well,
they got another ranked win, except they didn't because you
don't have them ranked anymore.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
This is a problem with the college football playoff right now.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You're not kidding. It is a baffling how Tennessee is ranked.
If you look at they've beaten Syracuse, East ETSU, which
I assume Eastern Tennessee State. I think, yeah, They've lost
to Georgia, beat UAB Georgia was the other one that
I couldn't think of right.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
And and lost the two top ten teams, and they
did in the playoffs, but they played them real tough.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
James took them to overtime. They beat Mississippi's, they beat
Arkansas by three, lost in the lost to Alabama, beat
Tennis Or beat Kentucky, lost to Oklahoma. And then they
have New Mexico State, Florida and then Vanderbilt. But that's
unbelievable that they're in the top twenty five.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
I think Mississippi State is their best win in Mississippi State,
Like I said, hasn't they're a winning team right now.
They have a winning record, so that there's that, but
they haven't. They haven't gotten the six wins yet.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's just I have not paid that close attention to
Tennessee this year. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's part of the reason why it was so important
for Arizona State to win that game against Mississippi State
early on and they lost it on the last play
of the game, because then you at least have something
to say, Okay, look, Arizona State took care of business. No,
Now the SEC is like, well, what of our worst teams?
Mississippi State beat Arizona State. That's supposed to be one
of the Big twelve's best teams. Obviously they're not this

(19:50):
year and Sam Levitt's now injured and that's gone downhill
for them. But that's why those regular season early games
are so important for the Big Twelve.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
They really are.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
And just to add just a little bit more context
to this, then we can move off of the farce
that is Tennessee as a ranked team.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
I do uh.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
The last couple of years I started, I made my
own points system to evaluate resumes, and so it's pretty simple.
Three points for a win over currently ranked team, two
points for win over teams that are BULL eligible, and
one for teams I have a winning record but are
not yet BULL eligible or above or five hundred better

(20:30):
record but not yet bull eligible, which of course becomes
obsolete like next week, because if you have if you
have a if you're not, if you if you're not
bull eligible, you probably don't have a winning record. But anyway,
Tennessee when the best okay, the highest point total is
Indiana twelve points. They have the most, they have the
most resume points in that system. Tennessee is near the

(20:55):
bottom at negative two, so you you also get you
get minus Sorry I left out the part you you
lose a point for every loss.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Okay, it lose.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
An additional point for a loss if you lost to
a losing a team with a losing record. So so
Texas has three minus three points for their losses, even
though they don't have two losses because they lost to
Florida for example. So Tennessee three losses all against ranked opponents,
so that they're quality losses if you will, but only

(21:27):
one point otherwise, because they beat Mississippi State, they don't
have any they don't get any other points, so that
comes out as my negative two points. And that's a
ranked team, Like are we kidding?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Tell them?

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Like, give me another exploration that makes sense other than
you are trying to help the SEC get another team
in this.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
According Ivan, do you have a name for this, because
I like the Peterson Point Index, the PI.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
To get a website Peters point Index, So I I've
just been calling them college football playoff resume rankings. OC
likes James Peterson resume rankings, the JP that, but but
Peterson Points Index is a good one. Also to your
point with the SEC ESPN seven hundred sports dot com.

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By the way, if you want to see the latest
resume rank there we go.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
But to your point, how nice would it have been
for the Big twelve if Baylor could have beaten freaking
Auburn in Week one? Yeah, because then you have two
bad teams and you're going, well, our bad team is
better than.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Colorado almost beat Georgia Tech.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Guys, that would have been another loss for Georgia Tech.
They would not be They would not be near the
playoff line right now with two losses and one to
a bad Colorado team. And the point you just made,
maybe the worst team in the conference beat maybe the
best team in your conference.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, and Georgia Tech's got Georgia coming up here in
a couple of weeks, so we'll see how they fare
against the Bulldogs. And if they get punished or not
for losing that game, if they end up losing it,
it was a pretty good game between the two last year.
One other thing I want to point out Texas at
number ten. That's interesting. Seems like the College Football Playoff
Committee is not wanting to punish Texas for going on

(23:12):
the road and playing Ohio State early on, which I'm
fine with. I like that because we need bigger matchups
in college football earlier on in the season and have
those massive games, and we don't need teams getting punished
for losing those types of games.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
No, No, exactly right. And so lost a close game,
you'll lost by a touchdown at Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
So going back to our point rating system here, James,
one thing that I might suggest is somehow figure out
to add in some points for teams that shouldn't get
punished for playing those big time games going on the road,
maybe against a top five opponents something like that, where
they don't get punished for that, because that's what we're
seeing the College Football Playoff Committee do right here with Texas,

(23:54):
because I mean, you could make a real good argument
that they shouldn't be at number ten either.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
The other tweak and I'm mentioned this with OC on
the air last week. The other tweak that I've considered
making is with the gap widening so much between Group
of five and Power four, not giving as many points
for maybe giving they only count as half as many
points for if you beat a team, if you beat

(24:20):
a Group of five opponent with a five hundred better
record or as bull eligible and not ranked ranked, you
get I feel comfortable saying, hey, you get the full
three points because they you think you're a top twenty
five team. We think you belong with a lot of
the Power five. But otherwise maybe making it half as
many points. So yeah, there's a couple of tweaks I'm
considering for next season.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
All right, that's a look at the college football playoff
rankings right now. And of course Utah just went out,
just went out. You want some carnage ahead of you,
arnige all around, and if you can just take care
of business the rest of the way, we'll see what
happens with these college football playoff rankings. The advanced analytics
favor Utah and you, I mean, you should win the
rest of that schedule easily, the rest of the way,

(25:03):
so you never know what could happen with this Utah
football team.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Jordan, Oh yeah, just take care of business and see
what happens. I mean again, not even if you don't
get to the Big twelve Championship game, could play in
your favor. Good could work out because is the I
know we got to get a break, But is the
CFP taking a two loss b YU team that have
and let's let's let's say Texas Tech beats them soundly

(25:25):
again in the Big twelve Championship game. How big is
that head to head do they take you to?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Do they favor the advanced analytics over the head to head?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
That's right, get the get the paddles ready for the
BYU fans. Man, if that happens, and I don't blame them,
that would be brutal. Might be riots in the streets,
Oh man, if if if that were to happen.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Stay off of Cougar boards scenario.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I haven't seen a riot like that since they ran
out of Cougar tels down.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
There since Vancouver after the hockey playoffs. That one's all right,
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like doing so. Right now, we're going to continue our
conversation on college football. The college football Playoff in the
future of that college football playoff as well. We'll do
so with shahanja A Raja of CBS Sports. So let's
jump out to the ESPN hotline and welcome him in. Shahan,
how you doing, my friend, I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
Great, and also not Shawn O'Connell.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, you know, all three of us are going to
sit here and talk on Sean O'Connell's program, and hopefully
the people that are listening enjoy our conversation here this
morning as well.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Let's start here.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Uh, let's start with the college football playoff rankings and
where we see this going, specifically pertaining to the Big
Twelve conference, with three teams right there all kind of
vying for a spot in the future of the college
football playoff, how do you feel about where the Big
Twelve sits at this moment in time.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Yeah, you know, I think that the Big Twelve is
in very trusting shade because they've got three teams right
now in the top thirteen. If you look at the
sort of bracket, they've got two of the first three
teams out, and probably more important, two of the teams
right ahead of them are almost certainly going to lose
Texas goes on the road plate Georgia this weekend. Oklahoma

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goes to play Alabama. I would pick against both of
them in those spots. And if that happens, all of
a sudden, the door is very much open. And you know,
it's even get into the conversation of you know, could
Notre Dame struggle a little bit with a team like Pittsburgh.
You know, there's a lot of opportunities remaining for the
Big Twelve to continue to move up. So I think

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that this is a huge spot for them. It's a
good place for them to be. And I mean, look,
especially when you talk about Utah, I think that it
is very heartening for them that the Committee continues to
give them this much credit.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Now, when I watch that BYU speaking of the Big Twelve,
BYU Utah game or BYU Texas Tech game, I beg
your pardon, boy, It sure seems like Texas Tech is
just in a different tier right now in the conference.
Is that an overreaction or is Texas Tech just that
much better?

Speaker 7 (29:07):
They are just that much better? And you know, I
mean obviously they've gone and they've won almost all their
games by multiple scorers. The one that they didn't was
was a fresh and quarterback backup starting on the road,
and you know, I think they'd love to have that
one back as well. But I mean, Tech Tech is
just in a different weight class right now. If you
want to look at stuff like the sp plus analytics ratings,

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they rate Texas Tech as the number four team in
the country, ahead of every team in the SEC. This
is an analytics system that looks drive to drive wise
and so look, I mean, I think that Utah is
still a really high quality team. I think that BYU
is still a really high quality team.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
But there is a.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
Clear head of the snake in this conference, and it's
Texas Tech. Now, I will say this, I think that's
you know, obviously for BYU to go out there and
kind of get beat down on offense, the way that
they did was to struggle. But the other piece of
this as well is that I think that the committee
will give Tech Tech a lot of credibility. And so
if BYU, for example, were to make it through and

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make it back to Arlington and play at least a
closer game the second time around, I think that they
can get back a little bit of that credit. But
there is a clear it's top contender right now in
the Big Twelve, and it's Texas Tech.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
There's currently a conversation right now in college football in
general whether or not conference championship games should really hurt
teams that are vying to get into the College football Playoff. Now,
we've discussed a lot about Utah potentially getting the Big
Twelve championship game, even BYU, I think BYU more specifically
in this if they were to get to the conference

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championship game they lose, how much do you think the
College Football Playoff Committee is going to fault them for
losing in the conference championship game Because we've talked about
this in the past. We don't want these conference championship
games to hurt these teams from their chances at getting
into the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
No.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
I absolutely agree, and I am pleased frankly that the
committee did not do that last year that SMU lost
obviously in a close game, and they basically weren't punished
for it and still made the College Football Playoff. I
think that should be the case. If Utah still makes
the field, I think that should be or if they
make the Conference Bible Game, I think there should be
the case if the BYU makes it, even if Texas

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Tech makes it, and for example, loses a game to
one of those two teams, I think that they should
still probably make it now. I think what gets interesting,
right is last year you have a game that goes
down to the wire, goes to overtime between it. By
the way, Clemson team that was like number nineteen in
the country. So this is be different than playing a
top thirteen team like is projected right now. But I

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do think that let's say, for example, that BYU goes
and plays Tech and gets destroyed again, loses by four touchdowns,
I think that's that does put you in a separate situation.
I think even though you already have kind of that
loss on your schedule, but I think that overall, as
long as the result isn't disastrously bad, I expect that
teams will not be punished in any meaningful way for

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playing a conference championship game. Because RADI two right, you,
as a sport and as a committee and also as
a Totvision partner, want to make sure that these conference
championship games are still valued. We don't want conversations like
what Lady Kippen talked about last year of like, well
we should be angling to miss it. You want teams
to want to play in these games.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, I mean right now Utah and the I would
say Utah is probably angling to try and miss the
college or the Big Twelve Conference championship game. Obviously, if
you ask them, they're going to say, of course we
want to get there. But at this point, with the
third loss, it seems like, you know, they might not
go their way if that is the case. Shahanj Raja
is here with us from CBS Sports on the Sean
O'Connell Show, talking a little bit of college football. Let's

(32:48):
talk about Utah as they had two Baylor. Baylor in
a little bit of turmoil with the athletic director Mac
Rhodes at this moment in time. Give us a little
context here. You're a Baylor grad. What is way go like,
what's this athletic department dealing with this moment in time?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
And a little background on one Mac Rhoades.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Yeah, this is unfortunately another kind of messy moments for's
athletic department. Now, the thing that you do say is
at least it wasn't as messy as it was when
I graduated from school back in twenty sixteen. This is
a moment that I think is really just not great
one and not a great look for Baylor for a
couple of reasons. One, so for people who don't know, so,

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Macro's the athletic director who was also, by the way,
the college football playoff share, he has taken a personal
leave of absence. Now, talking to people down there, let's
just say that I think that that leave might have
been a little bit more, let's say, of a mutual
situation than him kind of doing it singularly. There's a
twenty eight day timeline that they've put forth. I think

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that there could be action taken before then. And while
nothing is set in stones, talking to people around the program,
there is kind of this expectation that he's probably not
going to be back whenever an investigation into him is
completed by Baylor. So what does that mean for Baylor? One,
I mean, you've got a coach right now in Dave
Branda that frankly is very much on the hot seat

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and people very much expected to be fired. Well, that
becomes a lot more complicated because look, if you could
fire the Aflinic director yesterday and get somebody new in
the door in a week or two.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
That's one thing.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
But if you have to go through this process potentially
from an HR perspective before any decision can be made, well,
that makes it a lot tougher to bring in somebody
in time. And Baylor's last game is on November twenty ninth,
and you know, so are they going to be able
to make a decision in the next two or three
weeks and get into the coaching market. And by the way,

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even if they do bring in somebody to make that firing,
they won't have done any legwork necessarily on the hiring process.
So it puts everything in a turmoil. It makes everything
a mess. And again, this is just kind of the
last thing that Baylor needed right now, especially by the way,
head into a game against Utah that, to be frank,
I think is going to go very poorly for them.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, you mentioned up the potential firing of Dave Randa
and the future coaching carousel, which was one of the
most interesting ones that we'll see in college football.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Ever, do you see any dominoes falling where big twelve
head coaches currently sitting head coaches might be up for
other gigs around the country, And do you think that
there's any big twelve fan bases out there that should
be worried about losing their head coach at this moment
in time.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
You know, I think the big one would be Matt
Campbell and Iowa States. That's going to ultimately be a
preference thing. We've seen Matt Campbell turn down some of
the best jobs in football over the past couple of years,
but you expect someday he's going to find an opportunity
that's right for him. I mean, you know, we'll see,
for example, how far Domino was Penn State gets. I
think that Matt Campbell would be an incredible hire at

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Penn State. So you know, that's I think probably the
biggest one that I'd say. I look around the rest
of the landscape, Like you know, people are probably going
to come for Kloney Stoki, I don't expect them to
be successful. You know, Kenny Dillingham has already said I'm
not going anywhere, So I don't necessarily see a lot
of other places where I expect coaches to go. Man,

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maybe Kansas, Wi Lands Lifeles could have been one, but
by the way, Kansas is coming off a pretty disappointing season,
So I don't know how attractive necessarily he is versus
how he might have been a couple of years ago.
And also the top job that you think might discomfor
him would have been Wisconsin, which is not going to
open this year, as the athletic director confirmed that he's
not coming back. So I think the biggest one when

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you talk about poaching would be Matt Campbell at Iowa State.
But I will say as well, the two other jobs
that I'm keeping a close eye on in terms of
changes being made are both retirement cases, right one. I mean,
I don't think it's a secret at the University of YUSAF.
We'll see when Kyle Whittingham is ready to hang it up.
Of course, they already have a head coach in waiting

(36:56):
in place, and I think that everybody kind of knows
what that next time will look like. Heather's Colorado with
Jan Sanders, and you know, obviously it's been a miserable
season for him. He's done with a lot of legitimate
health issues, and so you know, there could be a
time when they kind of mutually decide it's time to
move on to the next thing.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
If David Randa is fired. Where does Baylor rank among
the Big twelve schools as far as a desirable head
coaching job.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
Yeah, I think it's very high. I think it's very high.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
You know.

Speaker 7 (37:25):
I think that you kind of have a top group
of you know, let's say, Baylor and TCU. I think
text Tech in this moment, certainly Utah has to be there.
I think BYU probably has to be there. So I
think that's kind of how I would formulate my top group.
Let's say, and I think that Baylor is you know,
so if you were to rank it, like I know
that I think si I did a ranking of Big

(37:47):
twelve jobs and they counted Baylor and TCU as the
top two jobs in the Big twelve. I don't know
if i'd have them solidly top two, but I think
I would have them solidly top four or five. So
I think there'd be a lot of interest in this job.
Baylor's an interesting situation because it's a private school. They've
got solid funding, solid money, solid resources and support, and

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so you know, it's kind of a place where you're
able to come and build and not be bothered too
much and have a decent leash and figure some things out,
So I think it will actually be a very attractive
job when it opens to certain types of candidates. And
so you know, I know that people are going to
kind of point out, Hey, if Baylor open, it would
be the tenth job open in this market, with more

(38:29):
potentially to come. I don't necessarily know that you're fighting
with these same types of people who are having some
of these fights, right, Like, I don't think you're hiring
against LSU or Florida. I think you're more hiring against
Oklahoma State and Arkansas. I think you'd be able to
make a pretty good case against side of the schools.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
All Right, Shahan, Before we let you go, you've got
to get your opinion on this game coming up tomorrow,
five pm start on ESPN two. Utah on the road
at Baylor in Waco. It's a nine and a half
point line according to ESPN. Bett at this moment in time,
how do you see this one going? What do you
think happens between the Utes and the Bears tomorrow?

Speaker 7 (39:05):
Yeah, the short answer is Utah by a billion, But
the longer answer is I think that when you look
at Baylor's biggest weaknesses, it has been stopping the run.
And I think that Utah will be able to decimate
them in that area, especially when you talk about the
side to side run. I think Baylor has really struggled
at defensive ends with setting the edge, and you know,

(39:26):
their linebackers are honestly pretty decent. But I think that
if you're able to kind of run around the sides
from them, like Utah likes to do with this Jason
Beck offense, they're going to be able to move them
at will. So I expect that Utah is gonna have
a lot of success offensively. Now you know, Baylor has
a fantastic passing offense. I think they're going to be
able to make some stuff happen, you know, and put

(39:48):
at least some points up on the board. But I
think that this ends up being something like US. I
think this could legitimately be like a forty nine to
twenty one Tide game with with Utah running away with it.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, you'd hope, at least here in Lake City that
that is the case for Utah. As long as they
take care of that football, don't make many mistakes though,
they should be able to get the win out there
on the road.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Sean, thank you so much for your time. Thanks for
jumping on with us here.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
Thank you much for having me.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
That is shahanj Raja right here on the Sean O'Connell
Show on Bryce Larson.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
That's Jordan Bianucci as we continue to.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Talk some college football on a football Friday edition of
the programs. Some interesting commentary from Shahan right there about
not only the mac Roades situation, but of course he
thinks Utah by a billion tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of what we talked, what
OC's been talking about all week as well. That run
defense is just brutal and that may be one of
the big reasons why Iranda gets fired is he's a
defensive guy. He took over calling plays last year. Yeah,
and it's just been a disaster this season.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
But it is interesting what he mentioned. You don't have
an athletic director. Are you going to be able to
make the decision? Is the president going to step in
and take over the operational point of you here? Do
you have the money to be able to get the
buy out going? Do you have all of these things
have to be thought about. Is it really a viable
option to fire Dave Randa when they've fired everybody around him?

(41:10):
We're talking about Jeff Grimes, We're talking about Eric Mataos.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
You go down the list. They have fired everybody in
the last three years. Yeah, Dave Randa maybe the only
guy in Waco that's happy about what's going on in
the athletic department right now. He's like, all, maybe they'll
forget about me for a minute. I don't, You're right.
The other aspect to this is how many great head
coaching jobs are there vacant right now in college football?

(41:34):
A lot, a lot more than I can remember ever seeing.
So even if even if nothing, even if everything else
were great at Baylor and you with the athletic director
and all of that, who are you going to get
this thing?

Speaker 7 (41:47):
Like?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Because you may be, as you may be at the
top of the totem pole in the Big twelve or
toward the top, but you're not when Penn State's open?
When who else? My thing? I don't say UCLA, but
I don't know a great idea, but LSU, I don't know. Man.
It's a bad It's a yeah, that's a bad. It's

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bad timing right now.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
It is.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
It is bad timing to need and be in search
of a head coach I'm I'm curious to see which
Big twelve teams lose their head coaches this year in
the Domino effect. And it's not necessarily uh, you know
one right off the bat, where Matt Campbell would leave
to go to Penn State. No, it's Penn State hires
their head coach from somewhere else and Matt Campbell might

(42:30):
go to that school. Yeah, there's a lot of connections
around the country where that could happen, and we've got
a lot of examples of that happening in the past.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
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Speaker 3 (42:40):
Strap in people.

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The Sean O'Connell Show.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
I'm Bryce Larson.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
That's Jordan Bianucci filling in for one Sean O'Connell on
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Speaker 2 (43:46):
Well, Tom Sawyer by Rush bringing us back from the break.
I'm Bryce Larson. That is Jordan Bianucci. You know what's
really weird about this song playing right now? We didn't
tell James about this earlier, but we were talking about
us having gone to Hannibal.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Missouri earlier this morning. Oh yeah, how that came up?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
A little little weird hometown of one Mark Twain.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Right, yeah, Tom Sawyer, good call heard. That's why I
chose this song.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Ahasically, was this a little connection just to Sawyer Robertson,
A little back a little backdoor connection.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
There's that to Jordan's old high school friend Sawyer rock.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
My buddy Sawyer thought it all week James forgot that
was his first name, been calling him by his thought
it was his last name.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Everybody text Sawyer.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
That was thinking Robert old Robert Sawyer.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, everybody's texting in on our program seven to ten
am overround the other station that Hey, Jordan, sounds like
you're like buddies with this guy.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, I know, first name Basis.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
We went to Hannibal, Missouri together, went on a little trip,
went on, went out on this relatively, went out on
the boat. Did you know Bryce painted a pick of
fence in Hannibal? I did? You didn't pawn it off
on something?

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (45:00):
Was that like a was that like a tourist uh?
Event you could do, the activity you could do.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, it was Huckleberry Finn Days. When I was in Hannibal, Missouri.
Just happened to be. We're driving through and we're like, oh,
it's huckle Tough Finn Days. Okay, let's stop by. They
had they had a white picket fence that.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
You could paint.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
That was supposedly, you know, the the white picty de fence.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
So there you go, all right. I I too, actually
to have.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
What one time family did the you know, basically cross
country road trip from Saint George to Nauvoo and we
one way we went through the southern direction, so we
went through Missouri in Illinois. The other way we went
the northern north and you know, down through Wyoming into Utah, Nebraska,

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Wyoming into Utah. So we stopped in Hannibal. I didn't
I don't remember doing anything cool like that, though.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
We should have. We should have just we should have
bought some paint and started painting the fences.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
You didn't even need to be that fence, just just hey,
I found a picket fence.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Let's paint this there.

Speaker 6 (46:05):
You go, actually make someone else paint it for you
if you're really gonna do it the right way.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Now that I think there's probably a lot of people
that share have a shared experience for some reason in Hannibal, Missouri.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Well, I say there's a disproportionate amount of Mormons that
have been to Hannibal, Missouri.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Driving that same route. Yeah, we all stopped off in Hannibal.
Text in if you stopped off in Hannibal to Navu.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I liked Hannibal, I thought, because when you when you've
never been back there, you go and you see the
Mississippi River, and it was amazing. That blew me away.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
When I was a kidd, I think, can't you do?
Can you do the go into the Cave?

Speaker 3 (46:44):
I believe so.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
We we were going to do that, but some reason
didn't work out. Maybe we chickened out. I don't know,
maybe my parents chicken out. I was like nine, So
this was a long time ago while back.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I have a T shirt of the Cat House, which
is a barbecue joint on the river. A teacher with
the big caffish on it from the Cat insisted on
getting that tahert.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
All right, well that's good.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
If you haven't been to Hannibal, please go so then
you can tell us you've been the Hannibal.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Sounds like you're an outsider if you haven't.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah, what have you been doing?

Speaker 5 (47:16):
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The PGA Tour Leaderboard update right now from the Butterfield
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Let's see what is he through so far today in
the second round. It's not giving me that information. I
think he finished.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Oh yeah, he's finished.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
He finished out for the day one stroke on top
of a couple other guys.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
For the lead.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, Chandler Phillips, Sprayden Thornberry right behind him. Couple of
golfers from the state of Utah. Zach Blair T twenty
currently at four under. He's through nine on the day
so far. So shout out to Zach Blair. That's that's
not bad at this moment in time. From the Butterfield
Bermuda Championship. One of the two golfers that are in

(48:26):
the field from the state of Utah.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
And James the other one. You can uh pull out here,
Patrick Fishburn, Patrick Fishburn, former b y U. Great, there
you go. I'm not seeing him on here though. That's
why I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. Let's see. Yeah, you know
what he showed up yesterday.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
I don't know, day might not, might not have made.
Do they have an early cut for this tournament anyway?
Maybe not? Maybe not? Patrick Fishburn and you guys. Know
you guys, here we.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Go T thirty four minut it to scroll two under
right now at this moment time he's through eight so
far today.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
You found him.

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Uh And of course I I know that he's a
former BYU. Great because I listened to Utah Golf Radio
every Saturday eight to ten and they they they cover
college golf like no other. Paul Pugmyer and Jan Brownstein.

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we've got our golf insider on this program, Jordan b Ucci.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I ask me anything, and I'll tell you a lot
about golf. Hitting that all and trying to get it
into the hole. It's uh, I've been I've been golfing. Yeah,
that's right. The wedge, Oh, how about the wedge? You
know we were talking about the putting.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
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Speaker 4 (49:47):
You can tell us all about lag putting.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Never have heard of that.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
How about we get into something we do know a
lot about.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
This is one of the college football at college basketball.

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(50:23):
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eight three ESPN.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
The fan you were saying, Jordan, because they wait to
sell it. Sorry, sorry, everybody.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Sorry, it's not Sean O'Connell here this morning, but hopefully
we get you through your Friday and into your weekend
as Utah gets ready to play some football. Coming up tomorrow,
we'll discuss some more college football go around the Big
twelve and more here in just a couple of minutes
before we do so, do you want to remind you
our Daily Dump comes your way, and that's coming up
at twelve thirty, where we discussed the top headlines and

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interesting headlines over the last twenty four hours across the
state of Utah, Jordan. A lot of stuff going on,
so you don't want to go anywhere for those. We'll
make sure you're up to date with what's happening around
the state of Utah. Coming up in just a couple
of minutes.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
Before we running utes had a signing class announcement yesterday,
that's what they call it, these.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Guys for the Daily do.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I'm still surprised that we're signing high school athletes in
college athletics right now as it goes, and.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
They didn't sign anybody out of the G League. Come on,
we'll talk about that one too, coming up here in
just a little bit. Let's jump over to the college
football side of things. Take a look at this slate
of Big twelve games.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Now, I've been saying this all week long, Jordan, we
did not get TV times for next week's slate of games.
And I find that so interesting for like the entire
slate of Big twelve football. And that means that what
that tells me for the November twenty second slate of football,

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because there's only one game that's announced, it's like Oklahoma
State UCF.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
I believe it's ESPN plus kickoff.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
They were like, we're not even going to televise it.
Don't worry about it again.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
So yeah, you could just pick your time and you
can put it on the ESPN Plus. The other games,
none of those times were announced at all when they
normally announ and they put them in the six day
selection window. And that's because the suits, the television executives,
they believe there's gonna be carnage in the Big twelve

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this weekend.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Does that worry you about BYU and Utah or.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Does that not worry you because there's other teams like
Cincinnati who are probably on upset alert a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, I'm not so worried about BYU in Utah. I
think BYU bounces back after losing on the road. They're
at home. I'm not so worried Utah. If they lose
to Baylor, that'll be shocking. And yeah, I'm not worried
about that either. Cincinnati could very well get upset by Arizona.
So yeah, I mean, listen, it is the Big Twelve.

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You never know what's going to happen. But BYU and
Utah this week of all weeks, I'm not as worried about.
In fact, I'm surprised the line for BYU, which I
think what three and a half right now in favor
of BYU. I'm a little surprised. It's that love so well,
I'm interested to ask Lee about that when we have
on in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah, it opened up at four and a half in
favor of BYU. Now it's moved down to three and
a half. So some money coming in at on TCU.
That's all according to ESPN BET. Here's your slate of
games for the Big Twelve this weekend. Arizona takes on Cincinnati.
Cincinnati currently a five and a half point favorite at home.
It's a ten am kick on FS one. If you
take a look at some of these other games Utahon

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Baylor of course at five pm on ESPN two. That's
a nine and a half point line right now, opened
up at seven and a half, jumped up to nine
and a half already on ESPN BET. Then you have
BYU and TCU that are going to kick off at
eight fifteen pm on ESPN. You mentioned three and a
half there as it's moved a little bit. The rest
of these teams are in action. Texas Tech will take

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on UCF twenty three and a half points, is what
that line sets at.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
You think UCF covers in that ballgame? They haven't played
too bad.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
They scored three point three points against Baylor.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
That's not great.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
That's not great. So I don't feel confident at all. No,
does Texas Tech pitch the shutout against you? They very
well could, They should probably to be Yeah, let's be honestly.
Should you know another storyline about that Texas Tech team.
This is a different team.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
If Baron Morton and you know, Heaven forbid this happens,
further aggravates that injury. This is a completely different football
team down the stretch because number two behind him, mister Hammond,
tore his ACL the LDS kid out of a Texas
that came in against Utah in that game at rice
Ecles that just kind of tore it up. He tore

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his a cl and uh now you're to a third
string quarterback that didn't play college football last year.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Mormon kid?

Speaker 4 (55:41):
No, the second No, the second kid. Yeah, I bet
he has, thank you for being I was so confused.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I was like, Jordan, I've said this fifteen times since
we've talked about technically.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I thought you finally caught on that US LDS. I
bet Missouri, I bet he hasked. He's that's the first
Jordan's tourniment. Actually, yeah, never, thank you appreciate that. Uh
now you killed We should we call a gas station
in Hannibal to see if we should We definitely should

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have done that. Yeah. How many how many old ask
people you get through here? Like what in the minivans?

Speaker 3 (56:17):
They're like, ld what does that mean that? How many
of the Mormons you get in there? Oh? We got
a lot of them?

Speaker 4 (56:23):
All right?

Speaker 9 (56:24):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
I was what I was saying, is that third string
quarterback for Texas Tech, if he has to come in,
who's obviously now the backup. It's a kid that didn't
play college football last year. Yeah, transferred for Wake Forest.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
I believe.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
That's a completely different offense for Texas Tech. If Baron
Morton goes down. He had a hairline fracture in his
tibia last week playing against BUYU.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
He was wearing like an iron shin guard under his sock.
That I'm telling you. If Texas Tech can get out
to a big lead, they should. I wouldn't put that
kid out there in the second half at all. That's
the only thing that can slow down Texas Tech is
if he goes down.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
They are. They're a juggernaut right now.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
We'll keep an eye out on that one specifically with
the status of Baron Morton. The rest of the way
as well. West Virginia and Arizona State. They'll take place
TNT eleven AM kickoff. Arizona State's a ten and a
half point favorite there, and then we mentioned Kansas State
and Oklahoma State.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
It's on ESPN plus. Oh wait, no, that's a ESPNU.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
They're putting that on ESPNU.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Yeah, that's ESPNU.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Kansas State Oklahoma State nineteen and a half is a
line in favor of the Wildcats.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Is the Big twelve better or worse than you thought
it would be this year based on your preseason predictions.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
I think the top of the Big Twelve is better. Overall.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
There are very good teams in the Big Twelve conference.
It's better than I thought they would be. I thought
there'd be a lot more weird carnage. Now, remember last year,
the last four weeks of the season is where all
that chaos and carnage came from. So cross your fingers
that doesn't happen again if you're a fan of one
of the top three Big Twelve teams currently in the conference,

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because that very well could happen here.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
I mean, we'll get Houston coming into the ear. I
thought they'd be okay, they look pretty good, and then
they lose to West Virginia. So it's just, yeah, weird stuff.
And I mean, we can go through the scenarios. If
you're a Utah fan, what you're this week, what you're
cheering for is pretty simple. You want BYU and Cincinnati
to lose. Next week, it gets more complicated. Next week,

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you want Cincinnati to beat Utah. It gets it really
gets into the weeds.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
If you're a Utah fan, do you want your team
to get to the conference championship game. Like, to be
honest with you, if you want your best chance of
getting in the college football Playoff, is it really through
the conference championship game. Now, I'll say if Texas Tech
is without their starting quarterback, that's a different conversation. But
do you really want to get to the conference championship
game risk a third loss? Or do you want to

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slide into that number ten spot and say, hey, no
conference championship game, you get into the College FOOTBA Playoff,
you continue to play meetingful football.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Where's the question too? If b E YU gets into
that conference championship game and gets beat, they're not getting
into the playoff after that.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Well, in the past, and we just talked with Shahanji Raja,
in the past, college Football playff Committee has not penalized
teams for playing in the conference championship game. I know, now,
how would that be different with BYU versus Utah Utah?
If they lose that's a third loss, do they penalize.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
That they would? Yeah, you can't lose again if you're
in Utah. But if BYU doesn't get in, someone may
just leap frog Utah and get in. Because I don't
know if the committee how they actually pessimistic of you
over there? Well you should the committee at some point
you do have to value wins on the field in
head to head matchups. That is kind of the name

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of the game.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
This will become a lot clearer after this week when
Georgia and ali Obama play. That'll or excuse me, Texas
and Oklahoma play those two teams.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
If Texas and Oklahoma lose to Georgia and Alabama this weekend,
well you're gonna find out where Utah on BYU just
either they slide up. Does Vandy with their quote unquote
ranked win against Tennessee if that's a thing, they end
up winning that one later on in the season.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Where does all of this come to fruition?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yeah, this is going to be interesting down the stretch
with this college football slate this weekend, especially Notre Dame
in Pittsburgh. Is there any chance Notre Dame loses to
Pittsburgh They're twelve and a half point favorite at home
or on the road?

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Excuse me, yeah, I don't think so. A road game
is a road game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Come on now, stum, there's gonna be some bad weather
some bright lights. Pat McAfee's probably jumping into rivers this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Fantastic. I think going back to Utah, if they want
to get to the Big Twelve championship game, they have
a better chance of beating Texas Tech than BYU does
in that game, if if quarterbacks healthy, if they can
win the because they I don't know if they can
win the line of scrimmage. That's where they got beat

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baddly in that game against Texas Tech. But Dan Pierre
wasn't himself. I'm not I would pick Texas Tech because
I just think they're so good. But I have more
faith in Utah winning that game than I do anybody
else in the Big Twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
That's a fair statement.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
The other thing that I would say about that, though,
is have we seen anything else that's going to change
your mind about the downfield passing game of this Utah offense.
That's still a question mark for me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Oh it's yeah, it's a bad question.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Do you have an athlete a weapon to push the
ball down the field to bring those players out of
the box for Texas Tech, because you know what they did,
we all saw it. They lined up their safetyes ten
yards off the off the line of scrimmage and said,
we dare you to try a steep down the field
and it didn't work out for.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
Hey, one time it worked that Spencer Fano was ten
yards that's down on the field. No, uh, I I
would agree that Utah over even over by U has
a better chance at beating Texas Tech.

Speaker 7 (01:02:11):
But I'm not.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
I we do predictions on the game day pregame show
with Porter Larson, Trevor Riley, and Porter always asked my
prediction at the end, even though I don't say anything
else during the show.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
I appreciate the chance to give a prediction.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
No, No, I just mean like it might it might
sound random, like, hey, this guy over here's his prediction,
but uh, it's a I typically like every time, I'm like,
Utah is gonna win. If if it's like any doubt
that they might lose, I typically go, yeah, it's a
close game.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Utah wins by score right that game.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
If they make it back, if they make it to Arlington,
I'm probably picking Texas Tech. I just there's there's nothing
the downfield passing games of concern. The one thing that
gives me pause is when Baron Morton was in the game,
Utah's defense handled their offense other than the big play,

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the seventy yard player or whatever, where nobody could yeah,
where nobody could tackle. But that was only that only
led to one score. The rest of the game. With
Baron Morton in the game, they contained him really well. True,
it wasn't until Hammond got in there and that they
started dicing up Utah's defense. And you couple that with
the fact that that Morton was healthy at that point.

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He obviously got injured, that's why he left the game.
But they were handling a fully healthy Baron Morton led
Texas Tech offense this time. This is going to be
a compromised Baron Morton and if he goes down, like
you guys said, they really got nobody behind him. And
so I that's the one thing that makes me go

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if they have a chance to play that team again,
maybe with Morton in there the whole game, or you know,
a lot more injured Baron Morton for whatever reason, maybe
Utah can really can really pull that game out. But
I still man, Texas Tech's defense just does not let

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you move the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
They're very good.

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
Yeah, So I and Utah because of that down, because
of those down the field passing issues. I think that
they have to be ahead if that were to happen
in order to have a real chance at winning that game,
because they have to be able to run the ball
because they I'm not sure they can really come back
with the pass if they haven't been able to establish

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a run especially, So that's a yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
I Texas Tech just feels far and away the best
team in the conference. So let me ask you guys
this question, because a couple of years ago we saw
this from the College Football Playoff Committee. If Utah does
get to the conference championship game, let's say that they
play a Texas Tech with a hurt Baron Morton and
maybe he's not able to go the rest of the way.

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Does the College Football Playoff penalized Texas Tech as well
for losing in that converged championship game, but also for
the hurt quarterback situation like we saw at Florida State
a couple of years ago. And they're suddenly on the
outside of this College Football Playoff and Utah is the
only team in the College Football Playoff from the Big Twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
If is that a scenario that you see happening?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
If Morton is for some reason, like out for the season.
I can see them punishing Texas Tech for losing that game.
They'll they'll, you know, they'll come up with some rationale
for it. But if he's not, even if they lose
that game, you can't I don't like that. You can't
punish them for winning and getting to an extra game
and then and then losing it after having a great year.

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But I don't know the reason. But the reason I
think b why you might get punished is you lost
to the same team twice. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
It's a great question.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
That's a great question.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Well, you lose to the same team twice.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
OCS has said this, not only is it the same
team twice, but this is a no doubt playoff team. Yeah,
and so the committee might see that as like, why
are we giving them a chance to play no doubt
playoff teams if they've already proven they can't they there,
they can't hold their water. Yeah, exactly right, and they might.

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That's where the analytics that favor UTAH is like that.
I absolutely could see. I wouldn't agree with it. I
would take it as you know, we're home with the utes.
But I wouldn't. I wouldn't agree with it. I could
absolutely see Utah leap frogging BYU even though head to head,
even though they'd have the same mental losses, even though

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they got blown out by the same team just one
last time, because of those analytics favoring Utah so well.
I I, like I said, I would not agree with
it because head like the games have to matter. Like Jordan,
you said that earlier, the head to head has to matter.
But we've seen crazier things that the that the committee

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decided to do with Florida State situation, it's a good
one to bring up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
And how does this all change now that mac Rohads
is no longer on the College Football Playoff Committee as
well as the sitting chairman who's going to be sitting
in front of the media trying to explain all of
this stuff. Of course, Mark Harlan steps in and the
Arkansas ad Erachek steps in to be the committee chairman.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Harlan's on the Playoff committee.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
So now, how does all of this change in terms
of what the College Football Playoff Committee now discusses? Does
it change a lot with Harland in there at all?
Or because mac Rhodes was a Baylor guy. Was he
allowed to be in on the conversations or did he
have to recuse himself in the conversations of Utah and
BYU Texas Tech.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
That's that's my biggest question of all of this as well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Surely he had to The rule can't change just because
it's a different guy coming in, right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Well, it's a different connection.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
What connections to Utah and BYU does mac Rhodes have
to those institutions?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I thought the rule was that if you're they're talking
about your conference, you don't have to recruise recuse yourself.
Is that I believe it is specifically just teams that
you have connect school based.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
And then also now I think this year they've added
an extra layer to that to say if you have
a close person around you that is connected to any
other schools. For some weird reason, they've added like a
second layer, if you have a friend or a spouse
that attended this university, you can you now have to leave.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Works there or something.

Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
Your your son works in the in that certain schools
athletic department or something, or is it a professor there,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
That's right, so your step daughter is a professor or as.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
A student in school? Tell us that so some weird Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
So the question is, how does the committee change its
mind about the Big twelve, if at all, now that
Mark Carlin's in the room.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I don't know, I mean, my really, I don't. I
don't think much, but I don't know. Is there a
chance though? But I mean based on that that it
actually hurts you done BYU that he's in the room
because he has to accuse himself whereas Roads didn't have to.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
Potentially, does does your school being within four does the
school being within forty miles in like a really bitter
rivalry count as a connection to that school?

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Does he does he have to himself with BYU?

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Have you ever what it's on the questionnaire? Have you
ever been fined by the conference for making comments after
you played this school?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
So that's the criteria that they're going to have to fallout,
leave the room. Then I am very curious to see
what the next couple of iterations of these college football
playof rankings look like, and then where how far BYU
and Utah they continue to win. Can climb up there
to see if we could safely and I say we
is a Big twelve conference. We're all Big twelve fans here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
I hate the Big twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
If the Big twelve can possibly get three teams in,
is that a crazy thing to say.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
I'm an SEC guy, they should get Is it of
an SEC teams?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Is it lined up for the Big twelve to get
three teams in? And if things fall, the conference's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
A way if a lot of things fell, the conferences way,
But even then I don't think so. I just okay, Yes,
if by you were to be Texas Tech in the
championship game and Utah gets help with teams losing in
front of them, sure.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
You believe that's the only way that that that the
conference gets three teams in.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Yeah, because Texas Tech's too good. You can't drop them
all the way out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Now, b YU obviously would get that conference champion bid
into it, and then Utah can find themselves at nine
or ten you get in.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
I think uh.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
I think the simplest way is besides you know, one
of them winning the conference, like you say, by winning
winning the conference championship game, is the three teams ahead
of you that have tough games this week, all loose
and Texas. In the case of Texas, maybe they can
win and then lose to Texas, A and M right,

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Notre Dame loses the pitt Texas loses to Georgia this week,
Oklahoma loses to to Alabama. Even though Oklahoma is technically
outside the picture, they are ahead of you in the rankings.
Those three, those three things happen this weekend, then you're
looking at a scenario where at least as of next

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week there you're on track to having three teams. And unless,
like you've meant like you guys have both mentioned for
some reason they want to they want to leap frog
Vandy over Utah or b YU, then then maybe you
only have two. But that's like there's a path to
and at large for both b YU and Utah, which
is just insane to think of. To think, with the

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way the season is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I am very curious to see how they would treat
a three three loss SEC team versus these big twelve
teams exactly anything, and whether or not Texas and Oklahoma
actually move because we talk about it like it's a
for sure thing, because it makes sense to us, Oh yeah,
if they lose another game, you should move ahead of
them because you have one loss loss.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
That's that makes a lot of sense to us, you
know who.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
It doesn't make sense to everybody vouching for the SEC
inside that committee. How far do three loss SEC teams
move if they end up losing this coming weekend? That
will be fascinating to see.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
What if Texas, Texas has Alabama, right, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia.
So what if Texas or Texas or Oklahoma moves playing
getting I'm getting them.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
All Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
If Oklahoma loses to Alabama in overtime, how far do
they drop the same? And if Texas loses to Georgia,
it's a good loss Georgia, That's what I'm saying in
overtime because it is just a win in tuscal loose,
well it is, it's that I mean, to be fair,
that is a good loss, like like you know what
I mean, you can't I'm not and your reward them necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
But that's it's not a shame. There's no shame in losing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
No, it's on the road.

Speaker 6 (01:13:08):
So I just that's why that's why you I mean,
you probably have to root if you're Utah BYU fan,
you have to root for Bama to blow Oklahoma out
and then honestly you just want you want Texas to
lose to both Georgia and A and M because there's
no Okay, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Bryce.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
Logically, they probably shouldn't have those teams ahead of Utah
and by U if that if they were to lose.
But they don't aways apply basic logic to this thing,
the committee. But there's no way in hell they're putting
a four loss team in especially one that also lost
to A to a team that fired their coach and

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as a losing record in Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
Yeah right, that's one of their losses. It wasn't a
bad loss. Already started the propagain over there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Well, I think that the SEC last year got jipped
out of another playoff spot.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Three loss secs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
We play in the toughest comfort because it's suffered in
the country. So the propagand has already started for these
SEC schools. That fine bomb guy, Oh good, yeah, that guy,
he's all over it too. So I will say, don't
be surprised, because then you're gonna have a dilemma on
their hands where you've got a BYU team that's not
great in the advanced analytics sphere, and then they get

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into that problem and issue of Okay, well by you
beat Utah and that's ahead to d win. Do we
move both of them up a little bit further? I
this gets really tough for the college Football Playoff committee.
If there's a three loss SEC team, then they're looking
at advanced analytics and say, well, how can we have
Utah in here? When BYU beat them and the advanced

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analytics looked back. It gets very convoluted all of the sudden,
really fast.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
It does. And I think James is right. I don't
have any confidence where they're going to go. Let's go
with the analytics here, and yeah, sure they lost to
them on the field in a game they played against
each other like that would be just so crazy, but
I Yeahlute, that could absolutely happen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
All right, Well, we're in for some chaos this weekend
in college football, and we'll definitely keep you up to
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(01:17:12):
of Sports. You mentioned this a couple times throughout the
show so far already, but Mark Harlan will be replacing
Baylor athletic director Mac Rhoades on the College Football Playoff
Selection Committee. This will be the second time Harlan is
served on the committee. Rhodes is on a leave of
absence from Baylor and Arkansas Athletic director, Hunter You're a

(01:17:33):
Check will be replacing Rhodes as the committee chair. That
means you'll see him doing all the interviews to the media. Jordan, No, really, Hunter,
you're a check. Okay, Yes, the Arkansas Athletic director.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Didn't know who that was n't so he just said it.
But glad to see he's going to get out there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Well, he's got a coaching search too, I get out
there and take care of But no, he's going to
sit in on this college Football Playoff committee chair and
start answering questions. He's got the hardest job, Like, why
would anybody agree to that? I wonder how much they
got to pay him to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
They're they're pulling sticks, they're drawing You know that he
got the short end because no one wants.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Nobody wants to be the guy that has to go
on ESPN and then ESPN Radio and everybody just throws
him under the bus.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
I want to see him go on ESPN and ESPN
Radio and just say I'm just here so I don't
get fined.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
And you start talking yourself into circles, people pick apart
every single word that you say.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Yeah, that's a tough job to have right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
There, in terms of explaining what the committee was talking
about and everything, all those conversations, what they were like
inside that quote unquote war room as well. All right,
let's jump over to the basketball side of things. The
Running Utes have announced Alex Jensen's inaugural signing class. It's
the ninety seventh ranked signing class on on three as

(01:18:51):
of a few days ago. It could be higher because
they've added three or so guys since then. So here's
your list of dudes that are signed with Utah that
will be coming in. Four star Jackson Johnson, three star
Styles Clemmens, three star, David katoa unrated Zati Lubaki, and

(01:19:12):
then there's an unranked Simeon sugu to Raga. So that
will that is your new class of Running Utes so far.
Jordan Binucci, this is Alex Jensen's inaugural signing class. I'm
surprised that there's still the recruiting of high school players
at this moment in time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
You can get them from everywhere else. Some local guys too,
from Orum Sandy obviously. Johnson went to Alta and then
a Utah Prep guy in KATOA.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yeah, the Utah Prep of course. A j de Ban
says Utah Prep guy as well. That that's so Utah
got the better Utah Prep guys. What you're saying, oh,
maybe maybe six foot four guard, he's one hundred and
seventy pounds.

Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
A lot of these guys, like there's a couple of
these guys that are like big guards too, which obviously
I think vodes well for it gives you an advantage
when you have bigger guards. We saw yegor Demon with
Byu last year. I have that advantage of being a
being a bigger guy. Not but some of these guys
not just tall big, like a couple of guys six

(01:20:22):
y four to two or something pounds. You're like, all right,
they see you could do something with this guy. Zati
Lubaki is the junior college transfer Trinity Unity College.

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
So he he's a he's one he I think he's six',
nine big.

Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
Dude he's got some, range can can step out be
stretch four type guy or stretch five type.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
Guy so he's one of those unrated. GUYS i don't
know that the.

Speaker 6 (01:20:49):
Recruiting sites typically ranked the junior college players the same
way with everyone. Else so that so if he were
coming out of high, school maybe he's at least a
three star Two so some context to, hey ninety seventh
doesn't is not that high of a. Class but they
didn't have at least one of these players or at

(01:21:10):
least three of these players when on three published those
rankings a few days. Ago and you got a junior
college guy as part of this class, too which isn't
going to factor into, that but still gonna be you,
know next. YEAR i expect this still to be a
rebuilding year for The Running, uts BUT i would say.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Decent class they're bringing in.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Yeah the next question THAT i have in year number,
one what's everybody's expectations For Alex jensen and The Running
uts at this moment in, time with what we've seen
a couple of games in already.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
By for A ncaa tournament. Spot just be a, bubble
just be in the conversation In, february bubble. Team so
in The big twelve, conference we're talking second to, last
a lot of teams getting. In, NO i mean you're
talking what middle of the pack in The big. Twelve,
yeah five hundred team In big twelve plays. Well if
you could go five one hundred and make twelve, play

(01:22:01):
ABSOLUTELY i would take.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
That so even so you're talking to under five hundred
team on the, bubble that that could be where you're
where they're at right. Now and one thing THAT i
do want to recommend to people is a college, basketball
especially with a brand new, team a little bit different
than other sports as of right, now and it's different
than it has been over the past couple of. Years
you have guys transferring in trying to play basketball, altogether

(01:22:26):
and it takes a long time for these guys to
gel it. Does it took THAT byu team last year
all the way until like the month Of february until
they really started to look like That sweet sixteen team
that they. Were it's going to take This utah team
quite some time to gel this. Year you probably won't
see who they truly are Until january of the, Season

(01:22:50):
so don't give up on them. Early if they have
a couple of losses here and, there some maybe even
a bad, loss flush it move. On they won't be
the true team that they will really be until probably About.
January at that, point you just have to hope they
stay afloat and in the conversation for a bubble.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Spot, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Exactly and and the great thing about being in The
big twelve is you're gonna get the benefit of the.
Doubt so if you can just be competitive in, there
come you're right. There you don't you don't have to
figure it out In, november figure it out by Late, December.
January you're and you should be.

Speaker 6 (01:23:25):
Okay once you get into The big, twelve play, right
beat the beat the teams that you're supposed to beat
in the non, conference which they've done so. Far continue
to do, that be competitive against some of your tougher
non and your tougher non conference, games win or. Lose
that's that's gonna. Help and then be around five, hundred you,
know within two or three games of five, hundred if,

(01:23:48):
not if not five hundred And big twelve, play you're
gonna you're gonna be in that bubble. CONVERSATION i don't
think if anyone uses because of the tradition of running
mutes back basketball now going back twenty twenty thirty years,
ago ten years, ago in the Lyricus koviak, era if
you're if you're holding, them if you're holding this program

(01:24:09):
to that standard And Alex janson's first, year you're probably
it's probably too high of a. Standard but being in
the conversation for as long as you can in conference,
play that's a that's a successful year this.

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
YEAR i.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Think, YEAH i wouldn't get too discouraged with what happened
With Weaver state the other night, either because you see
That Weaver state.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Team oh my, goodness they go up to the. Spectrum,
yeah it's a close.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Game they lose by, ten but it was a much
closer game throughout the entire and that's a Good Utah
state basketball. Team, Yeah Weaver state's. Good Weaver state very
well could go on to win The Big sky this upcoming.
Season we'll see how that all checks out this. Year
but give him some time to gel, together to figure
out the, rotation to figure out what's going, on and
you'll see them make some strides this.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
Season that's WHAT i.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Think, Also, Look, Alex Alex jensen's never been a head,
coach let alone in, college so you got to give
him time to figure things out as.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Well while we're talking about out, basketball let's shift over to.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
This this news came down.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yesterday Cannard Davis junior was arrested on suspicion Of dui last.
Night the number seventh RANKED Byu cougars will be facing
off against yukon TOMORROW Td garden In. Boston this was
a situation that happened In, provo got into a car.
Crash thankfully nobody was hurt in that. Situation Canard Davis

(01:25:25):
junior was taken to The provo police, station later cited
for duy as. Well so that's an unfortunate story coming
out Of.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Provo, YEAH i mean from the if you take the
thirty thousand foot view on, THIS i think it'll be
interesting to see overtime HOW byu the administration responds to
stuff like this because the guys they're bringing in are
not your TYPICAL lds athletes that have always come TO,
Byu and so you're going to have more more of

(01:25:54):
this you Had jake retzlof that. Situation i'm not comparing
the two in terms of, severe but, yeah that you have,
this and what it is is it's just it's bad
publicity FOR. Byu and the what they will tell, you
the whole point they play athletics is for exposure for
THE lds. Church so that's What i'm kind of interested
to see going forward how that how they handle.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
That, yeah there is precedent for how they've handled this
in the. Past other former athletes at B yu have
gotten into trouble in this similar, path this similar, way
they've been dismissed from that specific team and then after
that season have been allowed to come back to rejoin
the team. Afterwards, yeah so we'll see if that is
the similar thing here or if it's a heavier punishment lesser.

(01:26:40):
Punishment we'll see how this all folds.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
OUT i think the difference now IS i think this,
UNFORTUNATELY i think this will happen more often than it
has in the, past just based on based on, yeah
how much money you're paying guys and who you're bringing
in who aren't familiar With. Byu so that's kind of
an interesting thing to look.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
For, yeah it's something to.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Monitor we MENTIONED byu on the road In boston taking
on A yukon team. Tomorrow that's an interesting matchup for.
Sure do you Think uyu has a chance to beat
This yukon team and the distractions now a little bit
too much for this?

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Team, NO i mean they have good talent on the
on the. Floor they have definitely a chance to beat.
HIM i don't know how Great connecticut, is but, YEAH
i Mean bayu has the athletes to beat.

Speaker 6 (01:27:21):
Anybody all, Right let's there's a starter they're losing In,
Davis so that's that's something to consider. Here is, like
he may not be a, star but he's a very
key rotation, player part of your starting. Five so it
may not just be a distraction that's a problem. Here
they could be losing a really important.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Player he's also fighting an injury and did not play
Against delaware as, well SO i don't know if he
was going to play Against yukon or if they sat
him out just To, YEAH i don't know what that
situation was as, well SO i don't know if he
was going to be available even to play tomorrow because
he didn't play Against delaware as.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Well so that's, Yeah and depending what details come, OUT
i think you're, right he could very well be done
for the. Year so that it'll be interesting on the
basketball court how they fill that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
Hole, yes it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Will let's shift over to this story where fourteen people
were arrested in a nationwide gambling ring backed by The.
Mafia Joseph Little Joe, perna a member of The you're
gonna have probably help me with this. One Lucesi Crime, Family,
Okay Lucesi Crime, Family, Kesse.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
I've heard lou case. Case it depends on The, yeah
thank You jordan Bing ucu for helping me out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
There the family directed several college athletes to operate illegal
sports books. Nationwide this was also a tie into The
rutgers wrestling team as.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
WELL i knew.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
IT i knew as soon AS i saw The.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Rutgers Wrestling it has exactly been zero days since the
latest largest sports gambling problem we've had.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Here, shocker this happened In. JERSEY i think we're all
just floored by.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
That retick that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Counter if anybody keep a track at, home we're back
to zero days since the last sports betting, incident.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Right Polly walnuts running this.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
One so that's a story that's coming, out. Right how
about how about Little, Joe Perna joseph.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
On our?

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Show this is WHEN i would hit The godfather soundtrack
be playing behind this segment that this. Is it is
just it's Turned it's almost if it wasn't so, serious
like with the integrity of, sports it would be.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Hilarious, well it just makes you think now that they're
cracking down really hard on all of.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
This how long has this been going, On, Jordan.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Yeah it's been going on for a Long and guess,
what you can crack down as hard as you, want
it's gonna keep. Happening it's just.

Speaker 6 (01:29:52):
When to the point you made about The Canard davis,
story at what point is, this even though it's a
good thing that you're able to catch these things and
punish and and make the necessary punishments or rest whatever,
suspensions whatever it might, Be.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
At what point is the bad publicity too high a?

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Cost?

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Yeah, right well it's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Not it's it's the, publicity because you're, right because once
we stop believing that the games are on the up and,
up there's zero reason to watch the games.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Anymore turns into, WELL i mean a lot of people
watch ww.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Wrestling, yeah so the fans of the, seriously the fans
Of if you like wrestling and you want what named
the sport to be, scripted like wrestling and enjoy. It
but that's not WHY i watch.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Sports so, yeah it's a dangerous path to be sliding.
Down that's why they're trying to crack down on. This
that's why just the other, day you saw THE nfl
try and get out in front of a lot of
this as, well saying that they're cracking down on prop
bets and they're limiting what action sports bets can take
at least legal sports books around the country in terms

(01:30:56):
of prop bets and eliminating a lot of other prop
bets in different things like that as. Well so this
will be an interesting story to follow with the sports
gambling probes that are currently going.

Speaker 5 (01:31:06):
On all.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Right one final Thing Quinn snyder just the other, day of,
course Is Atlanta hawks back here in the state Of
utah to take on The. Jazz he said That Alex
jensen was a no brainer higher for the Running.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Newts this is what he had to. Say, YEAH i,
mean to be, honest that. One to, me it's a no.

Speaker 8 (01:31:22):
BRAINER i could give you a long, list you. KNOW
i think First alex was someone that you could always rely,
on you know too and in multiple, situations whether it
would be with a game, plan you, know more specit

(01:31:45):
in basketball, rule you.

Speaker 9 (01:31:47):
Know dealing with the.

Speaker 8 (01:31:49):
PLAYER i think that is one of his many strengths
is his ability to communicate with the. Players he did
that for years across you, know all different, players you,
Know and he even though he wasn't a, guard and you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
Can still figure out how to talk to the.

Speaker 8 (01:32:06):
Guards and he's someone that you wouldn't. Want you feel
good About alex leading a group that your son was
a part, of and you, know and and the obvious
is that you know his passion for the university and the.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
Community and.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Sometimes you don't see all of his.

Speaker 8 (01:32:31):
Emotion he probably will more, now but he's incredibly, competitive
AND i think that that's a. MUST i Really i'm
excited for.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Him that's Former jazz head Coach Quinn, snyder Current Atlanta
hawks head man as, well On Alex jensen as a
no brainer hire for The Running. Utes all, Right coming up,
Next Lee stirling joins us From Paramount. Sports we're gonna
talk some more college football as we wrap up the
second hour of The sean O'Connell show right here On

(01:33:02):
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talk a little college football to send you in to
your college football. Weekend, lee glad to be chatting with
you here, again my.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Friend now are You i'm?

Speaker 9 (01:33:59):
Good i'm. Good can't complain in another, week big big
week for for all our teams in, State hurricanes here
In miami And utah and also B yu and even
a big game For Utah state. Too we're looking to
breakthrough on the road. Finally, yeah no.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Kidding that is going to be a big one for
them as they try to Get bowl. Eligible let's start,
here shall WE usc And IOWA. Us he's a six
and a half point. Favorite Over iowa at this moment in,
time where are you going with this? Game and what
do you think about this?

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Matchup?

Speaker 9 (01:34:33):
Yeah so, weather you've got a factor weather and we're
seeing one hundred percent chance of, rain which is crazy FOR.
La looks like it's going to rain for maybe two
three days. Straight so most people, say, oh, well THE
usc is a throwing, team you, Know, uh this would
definitely Favor. Iowa they're used to bad. Weather BUT usc
can run the. Football this, year two running Backs King

(01:34:56):
miller And Wayman, jordan these two guys have are combined
for a twelve hundred rushing, yards ten, touchdowns seven point
nine yards per carry For miller and six point five For.
Jordan and what defines it makes them different than the
LAST usc team's last couple of years is they played.
Defense last year only twenty one sacks on the entire.

(01:35:17):
Year this year they're averaging almost three per. Game they're
averaging one interception per. Game and who WHERE'S i was?
Head you, know after losing that game last, week all
their dreams are. Crushed and IF usc can run the,
table they're going to Be it looks like by over
a ninety five percent chance they'll be in The College Football,
playoff and they play really well at home five and

(01:35:38):
oh straight up four and one against the spread at
home this.

Speaker 5 (01:35:42):
Year, SO.

Speaker 9 (01:35:44):
I mean except for that one seventy five yard bomb
By Michigan state with less than three minutes to go
in that, game they've been perfect at home, here even
with a. RAIN i think sometimes you got to lay
it if you want to play AT usc twenty eight
to seventeen over The.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Hawkeyes well left over to these in state. Games You
Toest state heads down To vegas to take ON unlv
The rebels a six point, favorite, though what are you seeing?

Speaker 9 (01:36:08):
Here so they've been so good at, HOME i mean
you don't want to go against some developing you, know
a home field advantage. Here but on the, ROAD i
mean it's been. HORRIBLE i mean own four straight, up
one hundred and thirty third in points, allowed one hundred
and twenty ninth in yards per. PLAY i mean this
is out of one hundred and thirty six, teams and

(01:36:30):
those four losses a lot of total one hundred and
seventy six POINTS unlv ninth pest in the, country and
yards per play at home BEHIND i think an elite
line and running offense here on the Road Utah state
this year is allowed and average two hundred yards per game,
here AND i just don't think it's going to be good.

(01:36:50):
Enough they get some better recruits and some. Transfers defense
could end up being. Good that's always Been brockelmannenhall's calling,
Card but not yet HERE unlv forty four to.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Thirty all, Right, Lee i've got an ongoing theory that
the reason why we're not seeing any of these college
football games for The Big twelve next week having been
announced in CERTAIN tv, times is because THE tv executives
have a feeling that there's going to be chaos in
The Big twelve this coming. Weekend one of those teams
that might be a little bit hesitant IS, byu just

(01:37:25):
four and a half point favorites at home against A
tcu team led By Josh hoover and. Company what are
you feeling ABOUT? Byu are they on upset alert this?

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
Weekend?

Speaker 9 (01:37:34):
SO i think the reason THAT byu was dropped was
not just that they lost on the road to a good.
Team is? It they really. Weren't the game did not
play well at. All they just couldn't get anything. Going you,
know maybe they should have gone to hurry, up tried something,
different but just couldn't shake. It now they got to come,
back and they hadn't been tested a whole lot before

(01:37:57):
their big game Against Texas tech by good. Defense things
certainly failed that. One but as FOR, tcu they allowed
two touchdowns in a two minute, span one being a
seventy nine yard punt return to Give Iowa state the
lead in that. GAME i think that tc is just
one of these teams they played better as an, underdog
just the mentality their kids that they recruit and. HOOVER

(01:38:19):
i THINK byu is gonna win this game thirty to twenty,
seven but four and a half five, POINTS i think
you TAKE. TCU i think this is a one possession.

Speaker 5 (01:38:26):
Game.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
Lee when it comes To utah heading down To, waco
it sure seems like on paper that you have a
lot of advantages in this. One is that how you're
seeing this one or?

Speaker 9 (01:38:36):
No, well on paper they do, yeah, obviously and falling
short to b why you hurt their playoff? CHANCES i
think they run the. Table they're gonna find a way in.
There too many things are gonna, happen too many teams
are gonna have pressure and they're gonna. Fold, obviously they
can't lose. Anymore after back to back games allowing forty plus. Points,

(01:38:57):
BAYLOR i mean surprisingly Held Central florida to three last
game out had some great. Schemes they were playing with.
EMOTION i thought they should have been playing with a
long time. Ago utah is the top twenty ton of.
CATEGORIES i think they're capable of Solling baylor down. Here,
Sorry robinson's good quality. Quarterback their defense isn't, here SO

(01:39:19):
i think they'll hit on a lot of big plays
and Once baylor falls, behind that's when they usually start
falling a party. Here i'm late the eight and a half,
HERE i Have utah winning thirty five to twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
One all, Right, Lee jordan AND i are very familiar
with The La rams because the station we talk on
is the home of THE La rams right here in
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(01:39:49):
a massive divisional. Battle they're a three point. Favorite where
you headed with The rams And seahawks this.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
Weekend here here's what's.

Speaker 9 (01:39:57):
CRAZY i, mean you can make an argument here For,
stafford who's THROWN i think it's something like thirteens through three,
games thirteen zero ratio touchdowns. Interceptions Sam darnold has a
nine point nine yards per pass attempt average this. Year
it's one yard better than number, two which Is drake

(01:40:19):
made eight point nine yard for pass. Attempt you can
make a case for either one of the, guys maybe
Even taylor At indianapolis Or smith And jim At, seattle
so it doesn't have to be a quarterback in my opinion,
HERE i think the defense right now for The Seattle,

(01:40:39):
seahawks then get a couple guys back for this. Game
they got a shot. Here they've covered four straight road
games this. Year seem to be road warriors, here and
unless The rams defense does To donald what it did
to him in that wildcard, GAME i Think seattle's the
right side, here so they get pressure on the. Quarterback you,
know the only three sacks this is The rams giving

(01:41:00):
up here in the last three. Games We're seattle thirty
sacks so far thirty two and nine games run team
Favored seahawks with the upset thirty to twenty.

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Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
Com there you have, It, lee thanks so much for
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Us enjoy your uploaded. Weekend, okay you two, guys take,
care be, safe all. Right that Is lee's stairly.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Good Paramount sports always appreciate him joining us on A
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IF i agree with The. Rams play, There, Jordan Seahawks.

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
RAMS i like The.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
Seahawks i'll tell you what we picked earlier on our.
Show what DID i say ABOUT usc playing in the?

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
Rain my, friend that's going to be a torrential. Downpour
SC i.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
Took sc at home in the never rains in Southern.
California looks Like Albert hammond was.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
WRONG i told all the people here ON espn seven
hundred THAT i was gonna Beat. Oregon look how CLOSE i.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
Was and that's. True i'm doubling.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Down i'm doubling down BECAUSE i didn't think anybody THOUGHT
i was gonna Beat.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
Oregon and they. Didn't they lost.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Time and you know, What so your point is that
you were. Wrong the haters all, said good. Point the
haters all said that they couldn't do, it and they.
Couldn't good called by the.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Haters hery was on your, side whether you Catch.

Speaker 6 (01:43:24):
Herbie herbie went on McAfee h third Last thursday about
a week ago and SAID i was going to. Win
and then McAfee on on game day was, like, WELL
i was with, you and then you gave them bulleted board,
Material Dan lanning and then, anyway so So, herbie and
here's the here's the thing about that. Too hervey was,

(01:43:47):
like this is this is a dark, game weather's, rain
it's gonna be, like it's going to be fifteen, thirteen
two minutes to, play AND i was going to go
down and kick a game winning field.

Speaker 5 (01:43:59):
GOAL i.

Speaker 6 (01:44:00):
Said they almost did that exact. Score they went up
sixteen to fifteen with about two minutes to. Play that
Was herbie's final score. Prediction and then but unfortunately they
gave too much time For Dante moore to go and
get that put him in a position for that field.
Goal so THAT i was watching that, Closely i'm, like
so that's easy to predict it that, way because that's

(01:44:21):
how EVERY iowa game, goes but it was still, like no,
way it's gonna be fifteen, thirteen two minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
Left it wasn't quite, that but it was really. Close
so let the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
World know that On monday, MORNING i will be taking
victory laps over On Bryson bianucci When iowa BEATS usc
in torrential downpour in the worst weather you've ever. Seen
apparently there's some crazy weather going on In Los angeles
right now for the next three, days.

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Which means it's raining to the people In Lost, day
it's crazy out.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
HERE i was gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Win i've Got iowa knocking OFF usc this, weekend so
we'll see if that is the case or.

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
Not all, right this is The sean O'Connell.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Shell we'll head into our number three next coming up,
next it is The Coordinator's corner With Jason. Beck sean
O'Connell shot, up caught up With Jason, beck your offensive
coordinator of This utah football. Team you'll hear that next
right here on The sean O'Connell, Show utahs number One
Sports TALK espn seven hundred and ninety two one at Them.

Speaker 10 (01:45:19):
Yo on The sean O'Connell, show we have the pleasure
of checking in with the man calling the offensive plays
at The university Of, Utah Jason, beck offensive. Coordinator brought
to you by our friends over At America First Credit.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Union Coach, Beck welcome to the. Show how are, you?
Sir doing?

Speaker 5 (01:45:40):
Good good to be on with.

Speaker 10 (01:45:41):
You always enjoy these. Conversations been looking forward to it
now for a couple of. Weeks you guys obviously coming
off the bye. Week what did you do to maximize
this bye?

Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
Week you, know we uh with the point of the
season we're. At we were able to get a jumpstart
On baylor and get some extra practices in with, them
but also be able to rest up and get guys
healthy or have been banged. Up so it's kind of
those two. Things get as fresh as, possible but also

(01:46:13):
take advantage of the extra time to be as prepared as.

Speaker 10 (01:46:17):
Possible it might feel like a distant memory because of
how much work you have to put it On, baylor
BUT i hope you'll indulge me with some conversation about
The cincinnati. Win big win demolition by your. Team it
felt like the youths performed well in all three. Phases
your offense incredibly, productive the run game once again just

(01:46:37):
dominating the line of, scrimmage big chunk, plays consistent, yardage
and Way Sean Parker Kyle whittingham, said has kind of
emerged separated himself a little bit from the. Pack if
you go all the way back to you week one
or the first time we had this, conversation is that
something you thought might happen with one of your running
backs when you got to this juncture in the, season.

Speaker 5 (01:47:00):
You, know like you, said it does the last few,
weeks he's kind of started to, separate where early on
it was much more interchangeable between him And nikari and
the other running. Backs but, yeah it feels Like waihan's
just been getting stronger as the year's going on and

(01:47:21):
is really doing a nice. Job so we're always in that,
mindset in that mode of ride the hot hand if
somebody's playing really, well just kind of keep it getting more,
work more, touches and he's been doing that the last
few weeks and it's been great to see for our.

Speaker 10 (01:47:38):
Offense, ALSO i, mean we already had plenty of conversations
about The colorado game and the dominant run performance, there
but then to see it continue against The cincinnati team
that let's be honest is just they're a lot tougher.
Out they were a higher ranked. Team they've had a
lot more success this year than The buffaloes have. Had

(01:47:59):
and so to see your offensive line really dominate the
line of scrimmage in this game as, WELL i, mean
it's it's what we talked about all, year the capability
of this group in, particular and it seemed like they
are really firing on all. Cylinders now you would hope
that's the, case and lucky, enough they're mostly. Healthy we'll
get to that here in just a, second but when

(01:48:20):
you watch the film, back how did your offensive line
perform in The cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
Game, yeah they've really set the tone for our, offense
both in how well they're, playing how physical they're, playing
but also how consistently and high performing they. Are you,
know it's not weak to, week you don't you're not
quite sure what you're going to, get which is kind

(01:48:46):
of a case with some groups or some players and
the old, line they kind of show up every week
in are consistently high performers and set the tone for
our offense up. Front and so, yeah we're just continuing
to follow those, guys both leading through their, play but

(01:49:10):
also they're that way in. Practice they show up every,
day they work, hard and they set the. Tone from
a leadership.

Speaker 10 (01:49:17):
Standpoint we saw Against Cincinnati Spencer fano, temporarily thankfully temporarily
a little bit banged, up went into the tent on
the sideline and, THERE i MEAN i was sitting in
the stands for this game and there were you, know
there's like, this this nervous murmur that rolls through watching

(01:49:38):
him kind of be in help to the sideline by his.
Teammates but, uh he ended up finishing the, Game so no,
harm no, FOUL i suppose when you become aware of
the fact that a guy like, that a guy of
that importance in that, talent is limping off the, field
but you still have, to you, know call the next.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
Play how do you handle it?

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
Right like you, said you can hold your breath there
for a. Sec you obviously got to move on and
justin go from. There but fortunately he was able To
it was. Minor you, know he's able to keep. Playing
and also fortunately we're able to build a nice fourth

(01:50:17):
quarter lead where we could pull the one old line
and then timed out nice with the bye week to
be able to give him some extra days to get
helling up and fresher for This baylor. Run but he's
kind of battled a few things throughout the, season and

(01:50:40):
you wouldn't know because he just he's handled it so
well and shows up and plays Each saturday at such
a high.

Speaker 10 (01:50:47):
LEVEL i want to bite down on that here for a,
second because there is this this sort of sentiment in
the modernization of college football all of us old timers, like,
oh they're not as tough as they used to be
and everyone, now and it's obviously prevalent in pro sports
and things like, that but we it's an ignorance based
opinion in most, cases like we don't realize how much

(01:51:10):
guys are playing through and the injury report is supposed
to give a little bit more insight to. That but
if these guys are like you're, saying if they're just
showing up and doing it, anyway there's no reason for
them to be on an injury.

Speaker 4 (01:51:22):
Report so.

Speaker 10 (01:51:24):
We've seen This utah football team in past seasons be
really snake bit with the injury. Situation but your guys this,
year and a lot of guys this year seem like
even when the bumps and bruises are, accumulating they're just
they're just performing through. It AND i guess the question
is how common has that been this year where you you,

(01:51:46):
know you, know a guy's not one hundred, percent but
he's just gonna bite down on the mouthpiece and go.

Speaker 5 (01:51:50):
Anyway, YEAH i, mean that's, yeah always the. Case guys
are playing with and you, know they're they're getting it
out through practice and the course of the week to
get ready and they're playing On saturdays not being at their,
best and so that's more guys than, not you, know
more guys than not are in that situation of like

(01:52:11):
have something really hampering, them but they're playing through. It you,
know we've had a few guys we've lost for the,
season which is the part of every, year and it's been.
Hard you, know you kind of move on to the
next guy and try to adapt to what that looks.

Speaker 3 (01:52:31):
Like but.

Speaker 5 (01:52:35):
For the most, part we've been you, know we've been
fortunate that we've had had a lot of our best
players playing every.

Speaker 10 (01:52:43):
Week Jason beck is our guests here For Coordinator's corner
On The sean O'Connell, show brought to you By America
First Credit, union calling plays for This utah offense to
put up forty five points last time, out and of
course fifty plus against The Colorado buffalo's scoring at a
really high, clip, coach and doing so on the backs
of guys that at least in a couple of cases

(01:53:04):
you know really Well devin Dan.

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
Pierre there was this.

Speaker 10 (01:53:08):
Pretty overblown conversation rippling through some of the fan base
When Bird fickland had such a great, game, like, oh
what does this? Mean is there a choice to be made?
Here Is devon at one hundred percent or eighty five
percent or eighty? Percent he comes out Against cincinnati and
in my, opinion shows why HE'S qb. One all respect To,
bird WHO i think is talented and amazing and has

(01:53:29):
an incredible, Future BUT i thought this was an important
game For devin Dan, pierre Who i'm sure still wasn't
one hundred percent to come out and perform and make big.
Plays how did he grade out Against? Cincinnati and what
was it, like you, know making the call leading up
to the game to make sure he's ready to?

Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
Go, yeah you Know Devn like you, Said, bird we
really love everything he's doing and his ability and a
bright future that we're really excited. About But devin just
you know the point he's. At he just makes great

(01:54:07):
decisions at such a really high rate in the run,
game in the past, game with everything we ask him to,
do and so it's kind of an ideal situation for
us and For bird to be able to be developing
and to be learning From dev who's playing at such
a high. Level and that's the best thing you could

(01:54:28):
do for a young quarterback is to watch a guy
really operate and play at a high level and just
try to learn all that, information all that. Knowledge so
when it's your turn and your, opportunity you're able to
kind of do your, thing but you're you're learning by
watching it done really well versus, learning and you, know

(01:54:51):
when it's not being done, well learn a much harder.
Environment and so, no it's great Having Dev beck and you,
know work able to do everything With dev because he's
just makes such great decisions the throw, game the run,
game and all the different kind of options and decisions

(01:55:12):
we put into his lap to lead the.

Speaker 10 (01:55:14):
OFFENSE i Asked devin this AND i wanted to get
your perspective on, it because obviously you coach the, position
you played the, position and the sexy thing in college
football and at all levels of football that a quarterback can.
Do you, know when you throw that perfect tight spiral
deep ball that you drop in the, bucket everyone stadium goes,
crazy and from a grander, perspective it's, like, oh, yeah

(01:55:37):
you can take the top off a. Defense these are
the chunk plays that we've been asking for all. Year
we saw a couple of really really, great WHAT i
would consider deep throws Against, cincinnati and then we also
see where it looks like maybe the ball dies a little,
bit or maybe the timing on the throw is a
little bit, off so a receiver has to slow down
or has to come back to. It and LIKE i,

(01:55:57):
SAID i Asked dev about, it and he, said, well
sometimes when it's you, know like a big body guy
like A, jj if you can and maybe you want
it to be more of a jump, ball maybe you're
trying to get a pass interference. Call it would appear
that throwing the deep ball is still something that could
be a little bit more. Consistent how can that happen
in these final three games For? Devin is it a timing?

(01:56:19):
Thing is it an arm strength? Thing, Again i'm getting
real nitpicky, here but as everything else is going really really.
Well is that something that, well of course it is
something that can. Improve how can it?

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
Improve, YEAH i mean you definitely want to be able
to have that element because you'd love to be great at,
everything you, Know, so and it's quite a few. Factors you,
know it's both being able to get open and then
if they're, open the protection being good to allow THE

(01:56:52):
qb to make that, throw and then THE qb making that.
Throw and so it takes all of those things coming.
Together and you know when you look at the deep,
throws when you're throwing the ball down the, field if
you're able to be thirty, percent that's actually pretty good
in college. Football you, know you don't count on those
deep shots being fifty. Hits and so that's been a

(01:57:18):
weakness of our. Offense and you, know at times we
make some strategy and had some good plays in the,
games and then at, times you, know we're just missing.
Them and in each, one you, know one time we
had kind of a couple. Receivers you, know we had
a receiver do the wrong, thing so we got two
guys in a in a not a good spot in

(01:57:40):
a time we could have thrown a better. Ball and
then in a time we had a protection, issue so
so defenders getting up and getting a hit on the
quarterback as we're throwing that. Thing so you, know it's
a little bit of all those things coming. Together but
we got to continue to take our shots when we
can and continue to try to get better at that

(01:58:06):
and make progress because it would sure. Help you, know
the more you can do, that, man it just really
opens up the offense for everything.

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
Else did you Know.

Speaker 10 (01:58:15):
Ryan davis could be this level of a producer at
the power for. LEVEL i, MEAN i assume you had
some inkling or he wouldn't be here with. You but
he's not just like The utah leading. Receiver he's he's
in at top ten in the conference right.

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
Now you, know absolutely felt really confident R d would
come in and be the player that you, see really, reliable,
consistent get open versus whatever the coverages and make. Plays you,

(01:58:50):
KNOW i did not envision him being our number one,
guy you, know WOULD i would have envisioned him being
more a part of you, know your receiving cores and
he's doing his job at a really high. Level but
you're also you, know hoping there's two or three other
guys doing their job at a really high level. Too
the way it's worked, out he's just become more of

(01:59:12):
a primary guy and, thankfully you, know we've been able
to count on him and he's come through at a
really high. Level so that part doesn't surprise. ME i
just would have thought maybe there's another guy or too
that's in that same boat that would be getting some
of those catches as, Well and instead it just meant
more and more go TO rgu because he's coming to

(01:59:34):
at a really high level and getting the job done
at a really high level that nobody else has kind of,
emerged you, know to do that as.

Speaker 10 (01:59:42):
WELL i know that winning the game is the most important,
thing and it became pretty, APPARENT i mean by the
third quarter that your youths were going to win this.
Game when you get to that, level is there a
situation where you're, like all, RIGHT i want to get
this guy into the end. ZONE i want to get
this particular guy who's been really showing out of practice
or has had a rough road to.

Speaker 4 (02:00:03):
HEAR i want TO i want to get this guy.

Speaker 10 (02:00:05):
Involved And i'm thinking of creed within more specifically here
because you, Know Coach witt mentioned in the in the
press conference that, hey this, guy we thought it was
going to be a bigger. Impact earlier in the. Season
he's been battling some, stuff but he got in the end.
Zone his teammates were blowing up on the, Sideline. CELLAR i,
mean it felt like it was like a, win not

(02:00:26):
only for him, personally but kind of for everyone that
he got out. There AND i know he's not the only,
one but he's the Example i'm using right.

Speaker 5 (02:00:33):
Now, Yeah, no you love because you love that For
creed because he is a he's a great. Kid he
works hard every day and you can tell by the
reaction of his teammates how much he's liked and. Respected
and you, KNOW i Envisioned creed being able to take

(02:00:54):
over that OR d, role you, know going forward with
the type of player he, is and So Lake bird
learning From dat at a high. Level you, know that
same type of thing is going on with With creed
learning from OUR.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
D and.

Speaker 5 (02:01:14):
When that was opportunities come, man he made the most
of them and broke a bunch of tackles and scored
and it was it was awesome to. See and like you,
said he's there's a few things he's been working on
improving and, uh and he's gotten a lot better at
those things and hopefully was continue to make strides that,
way because one thing you don't, take you kind of

(02:01:35):
don't realize with R d you see the production catching the,
ball is he's doing that same type of thing in
the run game like he did a lot of that perimeter.
Blocking that's letting R d And Wasay sean or, sorry
letting Way sean And bray have a lot of the
guns that they're. Having so he's just as valuable and
in the run blocking as he is in that everything he's.

Speaker 10 (02:01:58):
Doing catching the, ball no no, block no. Rock is
that something that you tell your wide receivers coach that that?

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
Is i've never said, that BUT i definitely have heard
the wide receiver coach say that quite a. Bit so
that's definitely a Coach simon, saying.

Speaker 10 (02:02:14):
All, right Let's i've been asking you to look backward
to The cincinnati game and what's happened to this.

Speaker 4 (02:02:19):
Point let's talk about moving.

Speaker 10 (02:02:20):
Forward three games left in the, season coming off a bye,
week in a really good spot and A baylor. Matchup
that this is a bipolar. Team when you watch What
baylor is capable of the best version of them can
beat anyone in this. League the worst version of them
looks like they they belong in THE. Fcs SO i

(02:02:41):
don't know what you're gonna, Get but what are you
seeing on tape from The Baylor.

Speaker 5 (02:02:45):
Bears, no they. Are they're really good. DEFENSE i mean
they have when you put the tape, on every guy
looks like a really good big twelve. PLAYER i mean
they have, size they have, length they have. Athleticism up,
front they're really strong and. Stout the backers can really

(02:03:08):
move and cover, ground are, athletic and the secondary guys
are REALLY i mean really good cover. Guys so they're
a really, good good. Unit like you, said you, know
when you watch the, tape they can beat anybody any.
Week but they've been up and down and they've lost
to some good. Teams so we got to be ready

(02:03:28):
to play r a game because it's they have good,
players they have sound scheme and, structure and you got
to earn everything you get against.

Speaker 4 (02:03:41):
Them how well do you Know DAVE. A?

Speaker 10 (02:03:43):
RANDA i, mean was he was here In utah for
a while, obviously and there's a lot of connections coaching
staff to coaching.

Speaker 4 (02:03:51):
Staff how well do you, know Coach, RANDA.

Speaker 5 (02:03:53):
I don't know them well at. All quite a few
of the defensive Guys i've worked with over the years
ARE i, know close to them because they're in that
same tree and the scheme and those. Things SO i
know of, them BUT i don't know them well at.

Speaker 10 (02:04:07):
All we have two sets of college football playoff rankings right,
now AND i know you're focused on the game by
game in the week by, week but you also can't
ignore what's happening in the landscape of college, football and
the committee so far has shown a lot of respect
to The Big Twelve, conference and specifically a lot of
respect To utah right now ranked thirteenth for the second straight,

(02:04:31):
week kind of right on the outside of that playoff.
Picture looking, in it feels like as difficult a path
as there is to the conference championship, game there still
might be a path in some scenarios to the college football.
PLAYOFF i know what the players are supposed to think
about it and say about. It how do you as
a coaching staff process.

Speaker 5 (02:04:48):
This, NO i mean it's when you look at, it
it's a great spot and we just got to take
care of, business and obviously the next game most important.
Game but it's exciting because doors and opportunities are open in,
there and we just got to take care of business

(02:05:11):
and in approach each game that.

Speaker 4 (02:05:14):
Way you're seventy.

Speaker 10 (02:05:18):
Through your first season as the offensive coordinator at The
university Of. Utah has it gone faster slower kind of
how you thought it was going to? GO i, Mean
i'm asking you to be reflective when that's not exactly
the job for a college football.

Speaker 4 (02:05:32):
Coach but you're three quarters the way.

Speaker 5 (02:05:34):
Through, yeah it's. Interesting it's in every season is a
little bit this. Way in some ways you're shocked you're
going on game, ten like it's just flown by that,
fast and then in other ways it's LIKE ucla seems
like it was two years. Ago so it's both it's
flown by and it's like a lot has happened and

(02:05:56):
the course of these you, know going into game, ten
so you kind of fill both extremes of.

Speaker 10 (02:06:01):
That do you feel like your offense is still, growing,
developing you're able to add, things or is it more, like,
hey we're in a. Groove everyone knows the, playbook everyone
knows the meat and the, potatoes and that's what's gonna
win us these games.

Speaker 5 (02:06:17):
A little bit of. BOTH i, MEAN i think your
identity has totally emerged of who we are where we're.
At but that's been a, process you, know that has
not been just clear from day. One that's just taken
time through the, season and as things anything, changes you,
know that continues to. Adapt and of course you're always

(02:06:41):
aware of what you're doing and how teams are defending
you and what you're putting on tape to have complimentary answers.
To but you know your identity has taken, shape and
so it's a matter of really leaning into that and

(02:07:02):
making that better and better and better as we, go
versus trying to do some other totally, different you know.
Thing our identity is emerged. In it's a matter of
making that, sharper more focused and performing.

Speaker 4 (02:07:17):
Better this will be the last thing BEFORE i let you.

Speaker 10 (02:07:19):
Go how close is that identity to what you thought
it was going to be when you took this, job
when you first started to meet your players and the
other coaches on your. Staff is this how you thought
it would look when that identity took?

Speaker 4 (02:07:33):
Shape not.

Speaker 5 (02:07:35):
EXACTLY i mean it definitely emerged through the process of
who you know, What how guys are playing and what
you can count on.

Speaker 9 (02:07:49):
And all of.

Speaker 5 (02:07:49):
That so it's definitely emerged big picture. Wise you knew
the old line was the. Strength you Knew devin and
the really good player he. Is so from that, standpoint
no one would be a good running team is not a.
Surprise but all the other things of how it's played,

(02:08:12):
out you know that just unfolds as you're going through
the process and it. Happens but so, yeah a little
bit of.

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Both with that.

Speaker 4 (02:08:23):
Coach will turn you. LOOSE i always appreciate your. Time
thanks for jumping on.

Speaker 5 (02:08:26):
Again, yeah absolutely good to be on with.

Speaker 10 (02:08:29):
You Jason, beck offensive coordinator at The university Of. Utah
Little Coordinator's corner ON espn seven hundred and ninety two ONE.

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Fm well it's A, friday and you know what that.

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Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
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Speaker 4 (02:09:06):
Them We're Doc Chevrolet studio OF. Espn Al, right all,

(02:09:27):
right welcome back into The shan O'Connell.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
Show i'm gonna get into the airing of grievances coming
up here in just a couple of. Minutes it is
A friday on The sean O'Connell. Show I'm Bryce. Larson
That's Jordan. Bianucci you just Heard seawn's conversation with offensive
Coordinator Jason beck and now we'll get into the airing
of grievances coming up here in just.

Speaker 4 (02:09:48):
A couple of.

Speaker 6 (02:09:49):
Minutes it's my, bad, GUYS i missed the OLD i
miss the old. Clip here The seinfeld.

Speaker 4 (02:09:54):
Clip here we. Go the tradition of festive us begins
with the airing of.

Speaker 3 (02:09:58):
GRIEVANCES i got a lot of problems with your.

Speaker 9 (02:10:01):
People now you're going to hear about.

Speaker 4 (02:10:03):
It all, right, now it's we're into the. Segment now
that's WHAT i was. Waiting tell you what my grievance.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
Is we didn't get. That rejoin, In.

Speaker 4 (02:10:11):
So we'll start here with the airing of.

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
Grievances and by the, way you can hit the text
in line at eight seven seven three five three zero seven.
Hundred give us your grievances and they will be read
live on air here on The sean O'Connell show coming
up in just a little. BIT i do have a
grievance to, air AND i Told jordan this earlier on
our program and any of the listeners that may cross
over and listen to us from seven to ten am
on one of three nine to ninety eight THREE espn

(02:10:36):
The Fan weekday. MORNINGS i have a grievance with a
national college basketball writer Named Jeff. Goodman you, do because
the other day he tweeted out that no offense to
these four, schools but these are not the schools that
should be headlining college basketball on A wednesday night with

(02:10:58):
no football, on and guess what it Was North texas
And Oregon. State now you might be laughing in your
car because you're, like, well why the heck WOULD i
want to Watch North texas And Oregon.

Speaker 4 (02:11:07):
State, Well i'll tell you, Why.

Speaker 2 (02:11:09):
Jordan you laugh at me over, There the reason being
the ending of that basketball game was one of the
wackiest college basketball endings we will see all season.

Speaker 4 (02:11:20):
Long there was A Chris webber that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:22):
Happened the Poor North texas kid took the ball across half,
court called the.

Speaker 4 (02:11:25):
Timeout they didn't have any. Timeouts it was a tie ball.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
Game just five seconds, Left Oregon state knocked down the
two technical free throws and went home with the.

Speaker 4 (02:11:35):
Win that's, unfortunate wacky.

Speaker 2 (02:11:37):
Finish but here we have a national college basketball rider
who is saying the only games in college basketball that
matter are the ones with the top names in college.
Basketball Duke North, Carolina, yukon those are the only games that.
Matter this is a dude that professes to cover quote
unquote every single level of college.

Speaker 4 (02:11:58):
Basketball, WELL i, disagree Mister.

Speaker 2 (02:12:00):
Goodman the only thing that ruins college basketball and people
wanting to watch it is you talking bad about how
bad those games are when there's good games in college
basketball every single.

Speaker 4 (02:12:10):
Night that's my grievance.

Speaker 3 (02:12:11):
Today, YEAH i, mean if you're gonna sell the, game
sell the. Game like you, said they're good. FINISHES i
mean most, People you're, right not a ton of people into.
It but from a college basketball, WRITER i get what he's.
SAYING i get the. Point but but but it is
a little tone.

Speaker 4 (02:12:28):
Deaf it is it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:30):
Is i'll leave it to The i'll open it up
here for more. Grievances, james you got a grievance here
for us?

Speaker 4 (02:12:35):
TODAY i.

Speaker 6 (02:12:36):
Do Uh, so you guys all heard of the the
Old Sam hewart fake punt trick?

Speaker 4 (02:12:41):
Play?

Speaker 6 (02:12:42):
Yeah they, so just to explain it, again all, right
we've we've we've gone over a few times on The
sean O'Connell show this. Week but for anyone who missed
it Against northwestern last? Weekend was it A friday night
so a week? Ago Sam, hewert Former utah quarterbacks shout out.
Out he is listed as eighty in the game program

(02:13:05):
properly done before the game By Lincoln riley and usc
same number as their. Punter so they could run this
fake punt with the with the quarterback out there instead
of their. Punter right, now they didn't get penalized for
it during the. Game The northwestern coach, said, yeah they
shouldn't be penalized for it because he's thinking of that
first layer of the, rule which is they have to

(02:13:27):
give you. Notice it has to be on the game day, program, Right,
okay that the, Number but what The big Ten big
ten came out after the fact and, said, hey actually
this should have been a penalty after, all because yes you.
Can they did the right thing by putting it in
the game day. Program but you can't have the same,
player someone wearing the same number as someone else playing

(02:13:49):
the same.

Speaker 4 (02:13:49):
Position so he lined up as the.

Speaker 6 (02:13:52):
Punter that makes that play, illegal, Right that's why Like
devin Dan pierre And Don saunders For university both number. Four,
right you see, that you see an offense and a defensive.
Player those guys never play the same. Position you. Know
you don't See devin Dan pierre lining up his. Corner
if he, did that'd be. Illegal Don sanders is A
wildcat packages. Quarterback that's an illegal play right as number.

(02:14:15):
Four my grievance, is why are we still letting multiple
players have the same, Number, like just stop?

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
It do you want some higher? Numbers what's your explanation?
Here there's enough numbers that you don't need everybody to
wear the same. Numbers but see THE.

Speaker 4 (02:14:33):
Nfl THE nfl never has this.

Speaker 6 (02:14:35):
PROBLEM i mean they have more, players more players on
the college rosters than they do ON nfl. ROSTERS i
guess that's how they do. It but it's just, like
can we not with the same number? Here LIKE i
don't maybe you're, right maybe there's too many players on the. Roster,
honestly do trod out there with one hundred and ten?
ON i, mean how about do we have do they

(02:14:58):
do the double zero thing they do in? Basketball can
we have zero? Four like if you want, it if you,
like can we have zero? Whatever like that's, Ridiculous but
that's not near as ridiculous as two number, ones two number,
twos two number, twelves like two number eighties like this
SHOULD i said it. Before hats off To Lincoln riley

(02:15:22):
for trying this sort of thing by using these using
this system to his. Advantage but it's it's it's a stupid,
system like just, like let's have one player per. Number,
okay that's what the numbers are, for to help you
identify who the players.

Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
Are by the, way but related to, this by the,
WAY i don't like Buyer bachmeier wearing forty seven playing.
QUARTERBACK i have no.

Speaker 6 (02:15:47):
Thinking of THE nfl they outlawed certain numbers for. Position,
yes they still, do, right they've they've just expanded them
over the.

Speaker 3 (02:15:53):
Years, yeah and they've just kind of relaxed it a little. Recently.
YEAH i have no, logical legitimate argument for. This it's
just the WAY i feel it.

Speaker 4 (02:16:01):
Looks don't like.

Speaker 9 (02:16:02):
IT i don't like.

Speaker 3 (02:16:02):
It it looks. Weird it annoys, me and LIKE i
don't know. WHY i just, yeah that's.

Speaker 4 (02:16:09):
It that's.

Speaker 3 (02:16:09):
All that's that's my. RELATED i have nothing to back
that up except the way it makes me.

Speaker 6 (02:16:14):
Finish is THE nfl quarterbacks can be single digits up
to it has to be under twenty.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
Under, twenty, yeah because because you can go through them
like The Scott mitchell was nineteen Famously Johnny, unidas, yeah nineteen,
yeah so they more Famously stafford. Twenty, No stafford's six,
nine he's number.

Speaker 4 (02:16:37):
Nine that's. RIGHT i was gonna say he's.

Speaker 6 (02:16:39):
It i'm not thinking of it, now but it's the
it's The Drew, Brees Joe, Burrow Matthew, stafford number, nine.

Speaker 4 (02:16:44):
Number, Nine jim McMahon number. NINE i don't pay attention
to people's. Numbers that's.

Speaker 2 (02:16:49):
Weird LIKE i don't think Of jim McMahon is number.
Nine LIKE i wouldn't be able to tell you what
was people's. Numbers i'm going to touch you on this. One,
YEAH i won't be able to tell. You i'm gonna
sound like an.

Speaker 3 (02:16:58):
Idiot you really.

Speaker 4 (02:16:59):
Don't, YEAH i will not far number. Three oh my, gosh.

Speaker 3 (02:17:05):
This is you.

Speaker 2 (02:17:06):
DON'T i don't think OF i don't associate here we.
GO i don't Associate Brett favre to his jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:17:13):
NUMBER i understand that with like like, baseball the.

Speaker 2 (02:17:16):
Only TWO i can tell you Is Matt ryan And Michael.
Vick that's Because i'm A falcons.

Speaker 4 (02:17:20):
Fan that's.

Speaker 3 (02:17:22):
Insane what about who's a great? Quarter?

Speaker 4 (02:17:26):
Oh you guys got to? Stop is the?

Speaker 3 (02:17:29):
Thirteen it closed eighteen? EIGHTEEN i closed those threes and
you got? It Tom, brady you really don't, Know, OKAY
i Know Tom brady's you Know Patrick. Mahomes ACTUALLY i
actually don't Know. Patrick i'm TOTALLY i.

Speaker 2 (02:17:46):
DON'T i don't pay attention to people's. Numbers why DO
i need to pay attention to their. Number i'm not
calling the. GAMES i probably know college players numbers better
Because i've called college games.

Speaker 4 (02:17:54):
Before BUT i don't call the. GAMES i don't pay
attention to their.

Speaker 6 (02:17:58):
Numbers i'm with you When i'm watch Like Michael, Jordan
i've watched THE nfl ON.

Speaker 2 (02:18:02):
TV i can see the dude's face on the. CAMERA
i know who that is the helmets on the four. Camera,
YEAH i could see his face in.

Speaker 3 (02:18:11):
Football in, BASEBALL i get, it Like i'm BECAUSE i
don't unless they're a famous, PLAYER i. Don't it doesn't
ring a bell with me either with, baseball but with,
football the numbers are so big and it's like all
you see unless there is a close up of their
face That i'm that that doesn't.

Speaker 4 (02:18:27):
Feel LIKE i.

Speaker 6 (02:18:28):
KNOW i feel LIKE i know the other. Position the
numbers for players that or non, QUARTERBACKS i don't know
them near as.

Speaker 5 (02:18:37):
WELL i know for.

Speaker 6 (02:18:38):
QUARTERBACKS i agree that's that's, fair but, yeah that's. Wow
what about BACK i didn't. KNOW i didn't know there
was a biggest sports fan and someone who worked in
sports media that didn't doesn't know jersey. Numbers some of
these jersey, numbers like Like mahomes is, Fifteen Allen Josh allen's.

Speaker 4 (02:18:55):
Seventeen there's no reason for me to KNOW nfl players jersey.

Speaker 2 (02:19:00):
Numbers NAME a good reason is the reason of sports
media person to know his jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:19:05):
Number it doesn't. Matter it's Just i'm amazing that you
watch that many games and that's not something that.

Speaker 4 (02:19:09):
It doesn't connect because that's not What i'm paying. It
what Is Matt ryan's? Number i'm having trouble remembering number?
Two that's?

Speaker 3 (02:19:15):
Right do you know bat like old jazz? Players you
Know Carl malone's? Number Non John? Stockton, NOPE i couldn't tell.
You i've never THAT'S i don't.

Speaker 4 (02:19:26):
Even know if there's a doubt like a single or
a double dis.

Speaker 6 (02:19:29):
A there's a what about commercial that that reference as
a car dealer that Has stockton's.

Speaker 3 (02:19:36):
Number if you you Loved Jordan, clarkson what Was jordan
could Love Jordan?

Speaker 4 (02:19:40):
CLARKSON i couldn't tell. YOU i GOT i guess is
it thirty? Something is he in the?

Speaker 6 (02:19:46):
THIRTIES i got a hint for. You it's the same
number As Greg Oaster. Tag, WELL i couldn't tell you
that well one Of Oster tags.

Speaker 4 (02:19:52):
MEMBERS i don't.

Speaker 2 (02:19:53):
Know this is the one Thing i've never spent time
actually like looking at and like memorizing people's.

Speaker 6 (02:19:58):
Numbers, jordan did you this is this is an amazing. Discovery,
yeah let me.

Speaker 4 (02:20:04):
Know if there's any other sports fans out there that
are similar to, me you're gonna have to integrate like
To bryce and be a new no.

Speaker 3 (02:20:11):
Kid this is seriously text. Us is there anyone else
that has a, big huge sportsman that That it's okay
if you don't know all of, them but like super
famous guys that you.

Speaker 4 (02:20:21):
Like there's only there's probably only you.

Speaker 2 (02:20:23):
Know i'd get lucky IF i could name five famous
guys in their jersey.

Speaker 4 (02:20:27):
Numbers besides your top one of, them because they.

Speaker 2 (02:20:30):
And the only reason why is because they've Got he's
got his LIKE tb twelve workout.

Speaker 4 (02:20:34):
Thing that's the only reason WHY i know his. Number you, know.
Brands let's, see do you Know Steph curry's?

Speaker 9 (02:20:39):
Number is it?

Speaker 4 (02:20:40):
Thirty? Okay, okay so That's do you Know Lebron james's?

Speaker 2 (02:20:45):
Number?

Speaker 3 (02:20:46):
Yeah you Know lebron's?

Speaker 4 (02:20:47):
Number you really don't Know lebron's. Number he was six
with The Miami he, okay so that's.

Speaker 5 (02:20:52):
One of his.

Speaker 3 (02:20:53):
Numbers but do you Know Michael jordan's?

Speaker 4 (02:20:54):
Number twenty?

Speaker 1 (02:20:56):
Three?

Speaker 4 (02:20:57):
Okay SO i, know, yeah and Then kobe was twenty?
Four yeah for an eight.

Speaker 3 (02:21:04):
Eight YOUNG i. Know, yeah you wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (02:21:06):
Remember eight is lesser known because it was only the
first part of. This, yeah all, right SO i passed
those numbers two times four equals.

Speaker 1 (02:21:13):
Eight.

Speaker 6 (02:21:13):
Uh grievance from our text line handkerchief. Users my my
gag reflex automatically kicks in WHENEVER i see someone empty
their nasal contents into a small cloth and then fold
it up and put it back in their.

Speaker 4 (02:21:26):
Pocket nasty agree with.

Speaker 3 (02:21:27):
YOU i carry a, handkerchief you put it in the washing.
Machine it's not that big of a.

Speaker 4 (02:21:32):
Deal oh man.

Speaker 6 (02:21:35):
Grievance Cal rawley should have won m V. P, well
let's to Get jordan's thoughts on this day.

Speaker 4 (02:21:40):
With us right, NOW.

Speaker 3 (02:21:43):
I have the no you know that, UP i don't
have you know. What the truth though is it's a last.
Resort the handkerchief is a Last if you have a clean, action.

Speaker 4 (02:21:52):
That's the Clean. Yeah going back to this, One raley
should have want m V. P judge was. Good the
only reason he want is because he's A. Yankee for,
me that should be a.

Speaker 6 (02:22:02):
Demerit, NO i, Agree raleigh was probably the best defender
in the sport this year and he hit sixty. Homers,
seriously people that do you have any counterpoints, There, jordan
as our, Residents.

Speaker 3 (02:22:14):
WELL i, Do But, Bryce, BRYCE i don't have a
problem With raleigh winning THE. Mvp uh because what he,
Did like he, said.

Speaker 4 (02:22:24):
So judge Or judge, One judge.

Speaker 3 (02:22:27):
One BUT i don't have a problem with that grievance
in the, sense in the sense That raleigh what he
did was so spectacular as a. Catcher but to say
That judge was THE mvp just because he was A
yankee is. Insane, Uh Aaron judge's. Stats he had a
bet he hit three thirty One judge Did raley hit

(02:22:49):
two forty. Seven judge had an eleven forty five. Ops
raley was ninety. Eight judge scored one hundred and thirty seven.
RUNS i don't know how big of a Deal raleigh
one hundred, Ten judge out a higher war Than rally.

Speaker 4 (02:23:03):
Two but here's the reason.

Speaker 2 (02:23:05):
Why it's because we have too many young voters in
The Baseball Writers association at this moment in.

Speaker 3 (02:23:12):
Time that's the first time anyone in the history has
ever said we need more old base.

Speaker 4 (02:23:18):
Older the older writers all.

Speaker 2 (02:23:21):
VOTED I i can almost guarantee this all voted for
Cal raley because of what he did on the defensive.
Side there's too many young analytical writers in The Baseball Writers, association.

Speaker 3 (02:23:31):
RIGHT i, Agree, YEAH i unexpected grievance From. Yeah, NO
i think that that's a GREAT i think that's a great.
Point if two, GUYS i, say, guys two, people two
writers had changed their, Votes rally would have been THE.
Mvp SO i so just to, YEAH i DON'T i
would have Gone judge by a. Hair but What rally
did was so. AMAZING i have zero argument against him

(02:23:54):
being THE.

Speaker 6 (02:23:54):
Mp my my only thing With raleigh IS i don't
know how you can BE mvp and you hit under
two fits.

Speaker 4 (02:24:00):
Fifty but.

Speaker 6 (02:24:03):
That's what outweighs, it you, know triple DIGIT rbi and
the fact that he does is a. Catcher but the
the the batting average is like a glaring thing for.
Me it's, like come, on but but then you gotta, go,
well it's not that he's cleared out a bad.

Speaker 3 (02:24:17):
Hitter he it's sixty out of the. Park and you
name the OTHER i, know we gotta go to. Break
name the other Three yankees who HAVE i think what
three m vps, now the same As.

Speaker 4 (02:24:26):
JUDGE i can't name. NUMBER i don't THINK i can name.

Speaker 3 (02:24:29):
Them mantle number, seven damage on number, five and Bearra
i'm blanking On bear's.

Speaker 4 (02:24:35):
Number oh you don't Know jersey Number, No, Wow i'm an.

Speaker 3 (02:24:39):
Idiot you, know you want a real quick. Thing you
want to know Why Babe ruth was number. Three he's the,
first they're the first guys to get. Numbers he batted.
Third they that's Why garrek was number four because he
bat it.

Speaker 4 (02:24:49):
Clean number number.

Speaker 3 (02:24:51):
Eight DID i Say, BARRE i Mean Garreg, Oh barrow
is number. Eight, yeah, okay you Mean garreg though was
three time MVPs.

Speaker 5 (02:24:57):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (02:24:58):
No barrow was a three Time But garrig batted clean
up and that's why he was number.

Speaker 4 (02:25:02):
Four, well there you.

Speaker 2 (02:25:04):
Go there's some more baseball knowledge heaped upon. You on
The shaan O'Connell, show we'll take our final break of this.
Program we'll get into topical. TRIVIA i think we're giving
away a Baskin robbin's cake that looks like a. Turkey
that's coming up next here on The sean O'Connell, Show
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Speaker 1 (02:25:22):
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Speaker 2 (02:25:39):
All, right wrapping up The sean O'Connell show on A friday.
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Giveaway this is your last chance to text us your
score prediction For utah Versus baylor eight seven seven three
five three zero seven. Hundred the closest to the actual
final score with the right winning team is going to

(02:26:02):
win an ice cream cake decorated and shaped to look
exactly like a turkey From Baskin.

Speaker 4 (02:26:07):
Robbins how about that they ever had turkey, cake so.

Speaker 3 (02:26:10):
We're all looking For i've never have had a turkey.

Speaker 4 (02:26:13):
Cake either OF.

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
I but it's up for grabs right. Now eight seven
seven three five three zero seven. Hundred it's your prediction
for the score Between utah And. Baylor just wrap Up
The sean O'Connell show on A. Friday it Is Spence.
Check it's that joins us here in studio to drive
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Speaker 4 (02:26:29):
Next.

Speaker 11 (02:26:29):
Spence how you, Doing i'm excuse, Me i'm, fine but
you guys are bullying me and lying to.

Speaker 4 (02:26:34):
Me i'm not.

Speaker 11 (02:26:35):
Lying i'm hesitant to even do cross talk today BECAUSE
i this is a den of, thieves, DUDE a bunch
of liars in. Here i'm not buying this. Shtick what
do you mean you don't Know John stocke's jersey? Number
you're you're lying to.

Speaker 4 (02:26:47):
ME i promise, you on all things THAT i can
ever tell, You i'm not lying to. You you don't
Know Karl malone's jersey. NUMBER i.

Speaker 3 (02:26:53):
Don't it's one of the strangest. Things it's.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
This, no this is because WHEN i watch, Sports i'm
not paying attention to people's jersey.

Speaker 4 (02:27:01):
NUMBERS i.

Speaker 2 (02:27:01):
Don't If i'm calling the, game like doing play by,
PLAY i have to know their jersey.

Speaker 4 (02:27:05):
Number are You HAVE i ever done a play by
play for? Basketball for ever done A packers? GAME i
Know Brett farve's jersey.

Speaker 2 (02:27:14):
Number there's No my whole point IS tv, Nowadays, SPENCE
i can see the dude's.

Speaker 4 (02:27:19):
Face why DO i need to know his? Jersey? WAIT
i know who that?

Speaker 3 (02:27:21):
Is you're what you're The most of the shots are
from the. Fifty you're looking at the? Number you?

Speaker 4 (02:27:27):
DO i don't you? Do radio Is charlattan every?

Speaker 7 (02:27:30):
Day this.

Speaker 3 (02:27:30):
Liar the only REASON i buy this Is i've never
met anyone worse at math and numerically illiterate than, me
and it's.

Speaker 9 (02:27:41):
That that he is that.

Speaker 3 (02:27:42):
Guy you don't need to be good at math to
Know Brett farve's jersey. NUMBERS i think he has a
mental block with any orders. Number, okay is this every
sport at every? Level is it a certain?

Speaker 4 (02:27:53):
Sport is it a?

Speaker 11 (02:27:53):
Football obviously not because you don't Know John stockton And
Karl malone's jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:27:58):
Number you know, HOW i.

Speaker 2 (02:27:59):
Probably know more college football numbers than anything. Else john
The Tier, okay, YEAH i don't know that dude's. Number,
No i'm not talking, well, like are you just talking in?
States like you Know bear's? Number, yeah forty. Seven, yeah
everybody Knows, bears but that's a weird.

Speaker 4 (02:28:13):
One Like Chase. ROBERTS i know he's number, Two Devin
Dad peers. Four SO i know the guys that are.
Here you know both Of kobe's jersey.

Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
NUMBERS i, know randomly, Enough Tobias merriweather's. Eighteen, okay, Random,
yes it Was peyton freaking. MANY i didn't know. THAT
i said, thirteen close. THOUGH i just needed to close
off that. Thirteen you, said you know code you know
both Of Kobe's, well we talked about this in the last. Second,
okay twenty four and? Eight all, right, yeah do you
know jazz players jersey number ever in? History he Loves Jordan.

(02:28:43):
Clarkson What's Jordan? Clarkson, yeah that's an easy, one Since
i've NEVER i honestly cannot think of anybody's jersey. Numbers
you played for The do you do watch?

Speaker 4 (02:28:53):
Games?

Speaker 11 (02:28:54):
YES i do watch them play The hawks the other.
Night couldn't tell you any of their jersey. Numbers zero
jazz players right. Now zero off the top of my.
Head current jazz. Players no, Chance, james.

Speaker 4 (02:29:05):
Are you buying any of?

Speaker 9 (02:29:06):
THIS i.

Speaker 4 (02:29:07):
CAN'T i can't believe this is.

Speaker 6 (02:29:08):
True, Hey bryce is otherwise of morally upstanding young like
the sweetest guy in The.

Speaker 3 (02:29:14):
I'm not lying to, You.

Speaker 2 (02:29:18):
Spence i'm not watching the guys the back of their.
Jersey i'm watching what they're doing on the.

Speaker 4 (02:29:23):
Floor why does? It why DO i need to know their?

Speaker 2 (02:29:25):
Jersey what Is Reggie miller's jersey? Number here's the, Problem
here's here's my whole. Thing in the position THAT i
am in right. Now what DO i need to know
more than their jersey, number how they play, in.

Speaker 4 (02:29:34):
What they do and their? Names that are attached to
their jersey and the number is right underneath the.

Speaker 2 (02:29:38):
Name by the, way Unless i'm, calling Unless i'm calling
the game, MYSELF i don't need to know the.

Speaker 4 (02:29:43):
Jersey so you, know LIKE uvu soccer.

Speaker 11 (02:29:45):
Numbers, yeah actually the defensive holding mid FROM uvu wear's what?

Speaker 4 (02:29:50):
Number this is? Wild that's a low.

Speaker 11 (02:29:53):
Number i'll tell if you want to think IF i
was like slot receiver from The, Panthers i'll give you.
That But Peyton, Manning brett Fav Drew, brees it's an easy.
One they said it, earlier BUT i forgot what you guys.
Said is it number?

Speaker 3 (02:30:07):
Nine?

Speaker 4 (02:30:08):
Yes there you, Go, yes number, nine Warned Joe.

Speaker 3 (02:30:10):
Burrow Matthew. Stafford Matthew stafford was number. Twenty that's is
How Stanthew stafford's. Twenty they don't they don't wear wear
past nineteen. Nineteen, okay well you guys said one through.
Twenty see that's that's the other.

Speaker 2 (02:30:24):
Thing that's why this is how this all started is
because we were talking about which numbers are allowed in THE,
nfl AND i had no idea.

Speaker 4 (02:30:31):
BECAUSE i don't pay attention to. Numbers this is blowing my.
MIND i think we need to move on BECAUSE i
have a.

Speaker 11 (02:30:37):
REFEREE i feel Like i'm being lied to by this young,
man WHO i think is an awfully nice kids number that's.

Speaker 2 (02:30:43):
Gone there you go, anyway let, it let us move.
On what's coming up on The, yeah, uh less of.
This thankfully for those, listening none of. This it's one
of the biggest college football weekends of the. Year it
might be the biggest college football weekend of the.

Speaker 5 (02:30:59):
Year.

Speaker 11 (02:30:59):
UH i Thought Jazz hawks last night was well high level.
Offense The jazz continued to not. Guard so we'll do
a LITTLE. Nba dave mcmanaman's going to join us right
off the. Top we've Got rojo for Somerom Utah, football
the voice Of, Baylor John, morris and we'll do a
deep dive ON BYU. Tcu there are a lot of
people PICKING tcu in this. Game the line moved earlier
today down to three and a, half AND i think

(02:31:21):
some people jumped on, it SO i think it's back
up to four and a. HALF i think it, is
BUT i didn't know this UNTIL i was doing the
prep for. Today Texas tech has the best run grade
defense in the. Country according To Pro Football, focus tc was.

Speaker 5 (02:31:34):
Third.

Speaker 4 (02:31:35):
WOW i didn't know that until earlier. Today SO byu is.

Speaker 11 (02:31:39):
Gonna have to find a way to run the football
because really their, season LIKE i think they're Beating. Cincinnati you,
KNOW i talked about. This cincinnati's matchup With utah was
so bad for, them and by you play so much Like.
UTAH i don't know that they're gonna blow their brakes
off because it's a road. Game But saturday night feels
monumental FOR. Byu so we'll do a lot Of utah

(02:31:59):
bable or do a lot of B, yutcu and we
will not talk About thursday night football because The jets
are unseerious, Unfortunately yes they.

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
Are you do Know Tom brady's? Number, yeah, yeah it's. Twelve,
yeah and that's only because he's got HIS tv twelve.

Speaker 4 (02:32:13):
Brand.

Speaker 11 (02:32:13):
Okay John stockton also famously wore the number twelve for twenty.

Speaker 3 (02:32:18):
Years thank.

Speaker 11 (02:32:18):
YOU i also saw that was not alive When John
stockton was. Playing my five year old nephew knows That
John stockton was. Twelve you know they hang it in the, Banners,
YES i. KNOW I do you pay attention to seen?
It do you pay attention to the rafters the banners
when you're At jazz. GAME i try, to, okay but
obviously not. Enough you, remember this is wild to. Me
i'm gonna be thinking about this When i'm trying to
go to sleep. Tonight That bryce doesn't know these.

Speaker 2 (02:32:38):
NUMBERS i apologize now the all the sports fans out
there that are disappointed in a sports stock radio.

Speaker 4 (02:32:43):
Show it's not knowing the numbers of. Players it's just.

Speaker 3 (02:32:45):
Baffling i've never met a person like, that that's a
sports fan like.

Speaker 4 (02:32:49):
That it's just it's so.

Speaker 11 (02:32:51):
Next time we Do, CROSSTOCK i want you to have
studied the numbers of the great players in pro football
and pro. Basketball i'll bring it back to. You baseball
is one. Thing it's kind of hard to Like Aaron
joe is ninety. Nine you could grill me on. BASEBALL
i wouldn't. Know, yeah if you Remember jeter's, number of,
course the, legend the greatest of all. Time my favorite player,
O'Neil Like polly was twenty, seven twenty, one twenty twenty.

(02:33:15):
Something but of course my Dad jeet's number, two the
goat of all. Time good to see you, guys you
as well all? Right coming up next The drive With Spence.

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