Dogs Years Aren't Real (Ep. 162)

Zach and Jake talk about coaching press conferences, NFL Week 11, Thanksgiving and much more!

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Episode Transcript

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Hello, Hello, Welcome to TurkeyWeek, the Flurry Sports podcast edition.
It's Thanksgiving week, holiday week.I feel like it crept up on us.
It might be the daylight savings timethat's really thrown me off. I'm
still still a little beefing about that. But I'm Zach Brunner. Jake Osmond
is here with me. Saw youthis weekend. Good to see you.

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I feel like we've really rekindled thechemistry that really the show needed this past
week on Jake, how you doing. We're doing great. It was a
good run in. I think wefound one of the best seltzers I've ever
had. That pear Pie. Neverwould have seen that coming. Pear No
secret doesn't taste of god damn thinglike pair apple pie drink if I've ever

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had one. But the pear Pie. Uh, it was unbelievable. No,
it was, you know, somerekindling uh glory there. I think,
Uh, what was the first sportsthing we talked about? I think
right away we went to a sportstopic. Yeah something, of course,
Oh yeah, of course. Yeah. We we were cheering God Draymond Green

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as everybody across the world also.Did. I feel like Draymond really locked
in that headlock for everybody, youknow, the millions and millions of humans
that lost their life as a resultof Rudy Gobert and Rudy's eyes just bulging
out of his head. With Draymondseemed to squeeze pretty tightly. He was

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he locked it in five games worthit? That's not that bitt so worth
it, by the way, soworth it. They should have at least
him for as many games as goBear made his miss for COVID. I
think that was the like tie off. He also broke down his fine right
away too, And it's like,I guess it kind of is a lot,

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but they're like, he got suspendedfive games. That means he has
to surrender eight hundred thousand dollars,Like, okay, we're talking NBA Cup
prize money now, I guess,but it's not that much. Also,
I think he had one of theworst defenses ever, which was or the
league did because they won. Thereasons they said they didn't suspend him longer,

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he probably would have appealed it.Cool. It's like how suspensions work,
like, yeah, that's part ofthe that's why you suspend him longer,
so he misses more time. Ididn't want to punish him too hard
because he wouldn't have liked it.Yeah, meanwhile, guess what happened.
He still came out and he waslike, I'm persecuted, you know,

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and like apparently they were also like, well, we gave him the biggest
suspension of his career, which happened. This is the longest suspension of his
career, five games. Well,most of his previous suspensions were near playoff
time, so they were just allvery short term. I love that for
Draymond. I mean, well,okay, now that we've my favorite NBA

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thing revisiting twenty sixteen, so it'slike my favorite thing to do. So
come with me everyone, Now thatwe're all past it, I get it.
We're all rooting against the bron God, I gotta got it. Now
that we're all past it, howwas that a one game suspension? I
mean beating full game Jake, youknow he's stone cold of them. Yeah,

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I mean, we need to punisha but we shouldn't punish ourselves in
the process. Who's your favorite dirtyplayer who can't control his own body?
Is it Draymond Green or Mac Jones? I mean Mac Jones seems a little
premeditated everything he does. Yeah,either like heat secrets. I don't know.

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Rashid Wallace has zero had zero controlof his arms. Every time he
complained about a call, which wasevery trip down the floor, he hit
somebody because he's like, oh thathe hit a ref and he does this
Carlos Boozer same thing. You know. He notably may have punched Raf.

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I'm not sure. Debatable. Allegedlythat's the great it's the greatest video UH
that in the time the NBA refpulled a hammy running down the corner of
my two favorite sports videos of alltime, so Sniper Cotton Run he went.
Also, by the way, Ithink one of my favorite wrestling spots

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all time happened this weekend. Reallyaw had their latest pay per view and
in a blood feud, Zach HangmanPage swerved Strickland, two of my favorites
right now. In that comedy,UH had a match that was so heated
it included, by the way,love a wrestling breaking an entering spot for

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wrestling fans. That may sound weird, but you know if you teed him,
when someone breaks into someone's family homeand swerved during this feud, broken
a Hangman's house and left him oneof his t shirts in his baby's crib,
which is that's a heel move.That's a Hangman responded, this was
a no rules bar like hardcore match. Won the opening spots. Hangman took

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a tied him up in the ropes, Love that Can't get out, took
a stapler and was first stapling him, which great, great hardcore. Spot
two took a drawing that his kidmade like a child's draw, stapled it
to his forehead. Wow, greatspot revenge. My kid showed up and

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it's like, is that a Ohmy god, it's his kid strong.
I'm like, that's great, that'sreally good. That's very funny. That
is good. That is that's oldschool wrestling feud. It seems like that
feud is old school. This isgoing to immediately turn off people. Hangman
drink the other guy's blood at onepoint, so confirmed broods back right.

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Yeah, Grel came out gimmick confringement, but no, it's wild. So
that was like a it was likea Mick Foley type feud feud. So
a w is good about that.They've got a mix of like stuff.
But I want to call that outbecause I love the idea of hating someone
so much that you were like mychildren's drawing, right, Yeah, you

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gave my kid and your T shirt, you son of a bitch. Here's
a drying that by the way,great, he'll move. That's so funny,
like very menacing, but also verycocky shipping, like I love to
you a T shirt. So no, all the way around good, But
I had that spot. And thenZach, I mean, I think my
through line for the show, wegot a lot of good things for the
fans. Yeah, I think Ithink it's a matter of time before some

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some reporter in a media scrumb's gonnaget decked. We are heated in the
world of sports right now. It'sit's been a tough time to be in
the news box, I mean rightfully. So though, like, let's you
know what, these reporters have beengegging off a little too easily all of

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a sudden, you know, forlike two years they were behind their computer
screens just firing away questions during COVIDtimes. You know, they'll face to
face meetings there and then now theykept that same energy in person, and
Brendon Staley is not fucking having it. Jake Staley not having it. I

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won't answer this question anymore. Stopasking me if I'm gonna call the place.
Yeah, yeah, it's my fault. He is. It's like we
lost because of me. It's myfault. Everyone in Unison, I think,
said, we know, we know, Brandonley, what are you gonna
do? Fire me? And nowit seems like and by the way,
I've turned on Brain and Staley afterthat press conference. I don't know about

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you. I think he deserves thatjob for another decade because he does not
want that job anymore. And nowI think the punishment is you're stuck.
You got it. I've never seena coach like that. Is that's real
person frustration of Yeah, I can'ttell you enough that it's not my job.
It's not my choice to keep meon. I've remember, like we've

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been there before, like it's like, listen, you could fire me.
I am like, it's like,it's about as long as I'm here,
I'm gonna do the work, which, by the way, that's not the
right that answer I kind of likebecause I'm kind of rooting for him,
because at this point I am donehating on him. It's totally it's on
Chargers management at this point for sure, for sure, there they are.

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I mean they are buying time untilJim Harbaugh has another allegation that's like,
okay, Staley, you could goand this Sunday guest coach appearance, Jim
Harbaugh is gonna be on the sidelinedoing something and then they're just gonna let
him wear his khaki's on the sidelineand naturally transition. I think it's true.

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I will say it was a funnyresponse. I do think the only
asshole part of it was he hadthis response planned no matter what the question
was. Yeah, yeah, likeas soon as it got close, because
the question the way he answers it, he literally says, I'm not answering
that question anymore. Who's gonna callthe plays? That's not what was asked

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that. The ask was how areyou all gonna make changes to things like
play calling and pieces going forward tolike adjust. The question was just like,
hey, things are bad, whatare you gonna do different? And
Staley took it as like no,I'm not being fired, and it was
like, Okay, it's not whathe said, but I get it.
He's you know, he's a littleantsy. He's antsy. He's thrown off

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is you could say his schedule isnot exactly what he wanted it to be.
And you know what, Brandon Staleyis a man of schedule. He's
a man of probably militaristic, likea timesheet breakdown of his day. And
when everyone thought Daily Savings is over, including myself, all of a sudden,
Brandon Staley's thrown off. He's like, oh I got another hour.

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That he started to freak out andnow he's a little bit upset. We
saw it with Jim Harbaugh. Hehad an extra hour in the day.
What's he supposed to do? Notsend this guy to another He had more
time to travel and all the time. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, the
cheeseburger. There's so much things likeDaily Savings has ruined our lives. It

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may have ruined Brandon and Staley's marriage, we don't know. We see Bill
Belichick, he split up with hislongtime girlfriend. All of a sudden,
he's shirtless coming out of an apartmentand now he's gonna lose his job.
You can't tell me that all ofthis is a coincidence, Like it's it's
not okay. The NFL starting athird of the league is starting backup quarterbacks,

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like the sports is going down theshit or quickly. I wish when
you know, when our staff getsbig enough that I can have Emily and
Hannah or whoever else we trust.I want someone to scour the press stays
for the dumbest questions each week.I was thinking that I just want a

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clip of like, cause there's onequestion per thing where I'm like, why
do we do it? I heardone, I don't know if you heard
it. In the Packers scrum someoneasks Jordan Love, you know, how's
the game change for you when you'refeeling good about your throwing? What?
Basically I'm like making it sound worse, but it was basically like does the

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game feel different to you when you'replaying better? I sure fuck helps out?
What do we do it? Like? There's and like I've listened to
some this week, like I thinkthat's good, and I want like the
I want the wildest reactions from coachesbecause I think when a manager snaps,
it's the funniest thing in the worldbecause if you look back at the best
reactions of all time. I didthis today as like an experiment, like

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practice, like playoffs, that questionis not dumb right question is like a
normal all those like it's just likethe straw that breaks the cable's back.
So I like that idea that likesome reporter takes it on the chin.
Yeah, well, like they've beenasking dumb shit all year long, the
past four weeks and then you knowyou you walk into it's like, what

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fucking stupid shit is Jim gonna askme today? Like I am sick of
Jim. Yes, I lost Jim. What the hell do you got to
say to me today? And thathe asked the normal questions like no,
no, no, like that youget angry because he didn't give you what
you want, that you spat uh. But yes, I would love any
I mean listeners, anything like that. If you work for Flurry Sports already

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do this as well. Yeah,if you can assemble some of the best
stuff, especially if you can getsound clips, if there's video specifically,
I would love that every single week. I would love to have that be
a segment, a five to tenminute segment of just funny or stupid stuff
from NFL press conferences or other sports, college football especially Actually, I'm sure

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college football is gonna start having aton of them, especially now that there's
been some firings and stuff like that. I know things are getting juicy.
I also, this is a promisecoming to you next week a segment,
and you're gonna give me the coachesyou want me to do with right now.
I will go back through their transcripts. I'm gonna tell you I want
some cliche ass couches. You giveme Campbell, Tomlin, there's some good

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ones. You can pick whatever coachyou want, and I'm gonna give you
their answer to a question. You'regonna tell me what question you think they're
answering. Okay, does it haveto be NFL? No, it doesn't
have to be NFL. But it'sjust I heard the guy from the Bills
this week, and not fucking kiddingyou. His answer was like, we're
that kind of team. We're reallygood. We do things together as a

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team. And the question was,what does this win mean for you today?
What do you mean again? Youknow you wanted to say something and
you didn't care what the question was, So I think that'd be fun.
So that's the segment for next time, but send it in people. The
Brandon Staley quotes were unbelievable. Imean, last week, you asked me

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some hotm questions. My return toyou is like this, can Staley make
the season? I don't think so. They have a they places next Sunday
night, so they play in primetime. I think it's against the Ravens.
I think that's the only reason theydidn't fire him, Like they're not
going to fire him and have thenew guy come in and face a buzzsaw

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like that just doesn't make sense.So I think assuming they lose that game,
they'll fire him. The issue islike who do they promote as the
head coach there? And is itgoing to be the offensive coordinator Kellen?
Like is Kellen more gonna finally gethis audition as a head coach? Is
that what that's going to be orI don't know, any will depend you

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know, there were some rumors fora while that they really liked Kellen Moore.
So if that's the case, maybethey save him so he can truly
like go for it, you know, not tainted by halfway see right.
Otherwise, Like I'm just looking attheir coaching staff right now, I don't
know who really makes sense. Theyhave a lot of inexperience. Obviously that's

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not really a surprise given Brandon Staleyis the fucking head coach here. Yeah,
Derek Ansley, maybe he would getit, but probably not. I
don't know. I don't know.I don't think there's a good ans HELI
which I think is also probably thereason. But you know shit's going bad
when you got Justin Herbert, likein the game, starting to scream at
people like he hasn't talked to anybodyin three years, and all of a

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sudden, now he's yelling at people. Not a good look, Not a
good look. I think that thetide might be turning on Justin Herbert a
little bit. Justin Herbert slamming thatball down kind of awesome, little little
too aggressive, You know what,maybe you should have snapped the ball earlier.
It's not be a little louder,use your outside voice so that the
sunder would have heard you. Thatit relaxed a little bit. Stupid,

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that all game was dumb, thewhole this whole week of football has been
dumb. There really hasn't been muchgood. And truthfully, like like I
said earlier, liter a literal thirdof the league is starting backup quarterbacks and
people ask like, why is theUSFL bad? Why is the XFL bad.
Why is it tough to watch isbecause usually there aren't good quarterbacks,

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and now it's like it's leaked intothe NFL. The NFL doesn't really have
good quarterback play, and now JoeBurrow out like that's another star that gets
taken away as well. It's justugly. It's really bad. NFL is
lucky they have the Eagles and Chiefsthe Super Bowl rematch tonight. But if
tonight that goes badly, people aregonna start to get angry. I think,

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because I mean Thanksgiving. Let mejust look at the Thanksgiving slate really
quick. I know we've got PackersLions to start. That could be very
ugly we have it could also begood. That's the one I'm secretly most
hopeful for. But if that,if that game is close, I don't
think there's any way it's good.Like that just means the line shite.

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I. The Packers are playing abrand of football this year that's winning me
over. That is not going tobe a popular opinion on this podcast.
What does that mean? What?What's that brand? What do you mean?
What's that brand? They are thedegree deodorant of the NFL, which
is not that great, but they'vegot a certain they got a certain quality

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to them, like what is it? You don't remember when you bought it?
You're just like throw it on thereand sometimes it works, sometimes it
doesn't. Here's the quality. I'mtrying to find the words to say it.
They are like watching Tulsa football likecollege. It's like when they win

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a game, I'm genuinely baffled.How do they win? How does it
happen? And then seeing teams strugglewith them is so funny to me because
it's like they are clearly a birdtrying to learn how to fly, and
that the hunter can't figure it out. Like they keep shooting and accidentally you

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know that they're vice president in USwhat was his name? The guy who
shot us? How did you shootyour friend? Quail Hunting? Yeah?
Like how that's become a running jokesometime I can bring it anytime, I
can bring it up. You know, I don't know. I listen years

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of watching Rogers, like and thatlevel of Packers team, Like what I
was never happy? We want agame? Good? Like we lost a
game? What did we do?We're never gonna We're never gonna achieve.
Now everything's crapy, we're terrible.Fine, we win a game. What

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I'm If this continues, I'm notgonna have a good time. But this
year it's a little fun. It'sa little wacky. We had some wacky
plays this week. The other teamcatch the ball. Yeah, great defense.
If if I am able to startwatching through that lens, I think
I could have fun. The issueis I live in in the media where

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everyone has been saying all off seasonto me, Zach, you're an idiot.
This Packer team is actually better thanthe one we had last year.
That's why, like it's hard andthe comparison idea of the Packers this week,
which I think is perfect. Soon Lombardi's sweep, I was talking
about how the Packers, you know, we keep treading water, right,

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we're not actually making changes to thepoint where this isn't a new era,
Like we didn't actually try to rebuild. This is still the end of the
previous era. We're just trying toget a new cast in there like the
start, and we're just running intothe fucking ground. And it's like,
this is terrible. This is theseason nine of Scrubs for the Packers.
This shouldn't exist. This isn't new. It's just fucking terrible, and we're

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never gonna speak of it in acouple of years. It's just gonna be
like, yeah, Rogers is gone, and then X quarterback came in,
not Jordan Love. Jordan Love willnever be talked about again. Matt Lafleur
will barely be talked about. That'swhere this regime is gonna be. But
I mean, if I can startthinking of it as if we are the
fucking the JV team that went outthere on varsity, because we did,

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for sure, that's what's happening,dude, that's what's happening. Imagine this
is season nine to scrutch, Butwhat was the issue? They didn't rebrand?
Rebrand them. In your brain,it's a lost season. It's already
over. I know that. Butwatch to run out there and in your
head thing that's helping me get throughit. Like when we beat a team,

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it's like a wing cushion goes off. Gotcha of all the teams,
Kenny Clark swung down passes for allthe teams for the Packers to beat.
Though it does seem very obvious thatwe beat the Chargers. That's like,
that's what's insane like this, Like, listen, is this season funny?

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That's okay? Every most people listeningto our Packer fans, am I gonna
I'm gonna do this bit. Let'sgo through the Packers schedule right now,
because the ones I'm thinking of,I can definitely do this bit with every
game is funny so far. Okay, I got some highlights in my head,
but we're gonna go through them quick. God, there's been a lot
of games this season. Okay.So we start out, Zach, We're

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good. We beat the Bears.We're back. We're back. Everyone's like,
wow, look at that. We'relike doing good things. We lose
to the Falcons. Very funny.Falcons like come back, their coaches wearing
a beanie that whole game. We'relike the commentators say, the Packers have
it wrapped up when we are downlike one late, like we've got it

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in the bag. That's awesome.We lose to them. We beat the
Saints by a point in a gamewhere I think we uh like almost fumbled
two punts like ya, and Jamiscame in at like halftime. Awesome,
Jamis is in. That's what we'redoing to win games. Act with Jamis
Winston's coming in, we get smokedby the Lions, like it's like we

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got him. No killed good.That Raiders game so funny. No one
knows who's playing for the Raizers,Like the Adams doesn't play that game.
There's an injury there. The Broncosgame, we're like fumblings that, like
there's grease on the ball. We'regoing in and then some of our big
hit sack the Vikings, right,smoke us, what a game? Just

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whoop us? What do we do? Sorry? Kirk got yah right at
the end, just when you couldn'tunderstand the joke. See you cousins,
we don't go down alone, Likethat's like, what's the punchline that you
don't have a quarterback? Uh?Then we just whooped the Rams. Just
no reason for that. We absolutelydominate the Rams. Brett Rippin, but

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yeah, Brett Rippan plays and we'reback. We beat Brett Rippon. And
then we played the Steelers and dothe same thing every team's done against the
Steelers all year. And you havecommentators going the Packers got it. No
teacher t J. Watt like swatsdown three passes, road Love throws away
another game at the end. Mmhmmm, mm hmmm, it's all and

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then we we beat the Chargers.Yeah, the next the next guy.
I mean, by the way,same draft class. I do believe too,
who got who got the better player? Justin Herbert with the Chargers or
Jordan Love with the Packers because JordanLove's one and oh now too. It's
a question for you. But Zach, that's what you're saying. This is
a wrestling brain. I'm not deliveringthis a bad message. This podcast isn't

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for anyone else. It's for you. This is my This is my message
to you, Zach, and forfolks listening who have listened to us long
enough. The world will tell you. The Packers were supposed to be stone
cold this year. You knew thatwas a lie. Were Eugene And Eugene's
great on the card? You needEugene. We're out there, we're making

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people slip on the banana peel.We're having a fun time. Sometimes we're
overbooked, we're pushed too high upthe card. So what's the goal.
Does Eugene make the playoffs this year? What are you talking about? No,
we're close. Will that be funny? That'd be awesome we're cheering for

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Eugene. This is where it getswild. By the end, people wanted
Eugene to win a title. That'snot what should have happened. That's true.
You want Eugene to come back?I do. I do. I
think he's got another run in him. This is a character whose whole thing
was he had down syndrome. Youcan't do that. He can't come back
fair enough, I mean I thinkhe could. We're Doink the clown.

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You can't over push Dink the Clown. What happened this year? We beat
someone to ruin that like, that'swhy we're here. We we beat someone
who has no like we stop theVikings from getting in. That's what we
do. Like, what's what's ourrole? We maybe we squeak into the

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playoffs and we beat brock Party.We finally beat the forty nine ers.
That's why that would make me soangry. If this is the package,
that's what we do. You wereready for a stone cold stunner. You
weren't ready for a poke to theeye. We're a different wrestler now,
Zach. We're rebuilt. Uh so, I don't know. I'm in on
it. I'm in on it.Because here's the like, okay, all

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of that jib versus side. I'mback, I'm back, I'm back.
My expectations are an all time low. What a band, and like that's
the thing, it's all, it'sall gravy, it's all great. We're
bad. We're bad this year.And guess what, though we are not
Panthers bad. Like I can watchthe games with some level of whoa,

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Like it's not forty two right away, and I'm thankful for somewhat close games.
I do think your lens is moreaccurate. And it's so aggravating that
people think, like here's here's thetrick we are the fans. Matt Lafleur
thinks Eugene is over and so he'sgonna keep pushing him. And that's that's

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what makes me upset, is likewe're not gonna like it is frustrating to
think that we won't retool and rebuildand like just totally go for something new
next year. That's frustrating. Butfor this year, Aaron Jones has avoided
a season ending knee injury for Ithink the third time. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean he needsto just go away at this point,

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go rest up. I don't knoware top receivers named Reid. I just
remember Romeo Dobbs played for US.True, true, we got Tucker Craft
making great plays, but stepping outof balance. I just think the NFL
this year is a really weird,like you said, yuckie season. Our

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mid card is an all time high. I don't know if we've ever had
a better mid card than Vikings broncostI mean, that's a great point.
That's a great point. Gave upseventy points earlier this year and they just
beat a team who I had toread an article this week saying why the

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Vikings clearly have the coach of theyear. What, Like the Broncos are
so weird because, yeah, yourpoint, seventy points. They gave up
a healthy seventy points and everyone shouldhave been fired. Then they traded away
they're good players, cut other playerswho they couldn't trade, and now they're
on a winning streak and they mightmake the playoffs because Joe Burr like Bengals

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are done, so now Broncos mightsneak in Bronco. I don't There's so
many games where you watch it's likeboth of these teams are tear like Steelers
Browns one of the best games ofthe weekend. Both teams horrible, terrible
game. But it's like, Okay, I mean, who are your favorite
mid card teams? Mine? IfI find like the crop of the mid

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card, I would go Vikings Broncasbecause their games are electric and the Vikings,
like, God, what a funteam to watch. No one,
no one takes a better bump thanthe Vikings. No, no, So
they're in there for me for sure. I the Steelers this year. I

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love barely playing every game. It'slike, I've never seen a team like
that. Defense hates that offense.Oh yeah, I would be. I
mean same thing with the Jets defensehating their offense. If I was like
a die hard either of them,I would be losing my mind because they
legitimately have Like you could make acase if their offense was average, both

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defenses could be in the case ofone of the best defenses ever, like
they have the tools to be there. But then you got fucking Zach Wilson
doing like a Jason Williams elbow passout there. That's essentially what he's doing
it, and now they're like fake. Any team who's like thank God,
we're switching to Tim Boyle. That'snot good. That's not the spot to

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be in. No, those fourteams, and then an honorable mention to
whatever the fuck's happening in the AFCSouth, like it's fun. Texans are
really are fun. Doug Peterson isputting Trevor Lawrence on blast like it's awesome.
The Jags are super fun, Likethis is a fun mid card.

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Yes, it is. That,that's very true. And I think we've
got a weak top of the roster, like our top of the roster's limpen
a little bit, because it's clearwe are the nineties. Ww We've got
Rockstone Cold, We've got the Kelseybrothers, and we can't figure what they
else to do with them. Likeit's like, yes, we're like,
I guess the Niners. The Lionsare getting the big push, like get

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up there, get up there,get up there. We need to get
in. We're still trying to makeuh, we're still trying to make the
Bills happen. Insane them And bythe way, the Bills need to knock
it off. They had another playerget stretchered off this week, and then
they're like, and see when Isaw that happen. That's the point I

(31:41):
thought Bills are back because like that'swhat they need. They need a guy
to go off on a stretcher.And then they beat the Jets, and
then everyone else is saying they're back, But like, how many how many
stretchers are you allowed at allotted ina season before we start saying, let's
let's change something. So let's movethe team, let's break the curse,

(32:02):
because this isn't good. They havemultiple players dying. I mean what literal,
but it's not okay, it's notgood. The Bills. Also,
never has a team been more Neverhas a team been more happy beating a

(32:22):
team they could never lose to.Every time they beat a shitty team,
they're like, the last time Isaw him like this was when they beat
the Commanders. They were like,told you we're good. Stop. It's
like, yeah, you've won thosegames, No one doubts that. Whenever
it's it's a little sad to see, but I love it when it happens

(32:44):
in the first month of the season. But after that win, yeah,
Josh Allen doing the old We gottaremember it's a game and games are fun.
Football is supposed to be fun.There's a little bit of a sadness
to it because it's like, oh, he has been wanting to kill himself
the past month, and maybe that'swhy he wasn't throwing the ball. Well
maybe that's you know, it's it'sokay. I will say I really am

(33:08):
just not a Sean McDermott fan,But I will say the weird hate of
the Bills I'm over a little bitbecause why do people not like the Bills
because they like they should be better? Like that's a weird like it's like,
you know, for sure, noone feels that more than they do,
Like I don't know, also shouldthey I don't know, Like it's

(33:31):
they were just over hyped. Theywere hyped as because you needed somebody to
compete against the Chiefs, and theypicked the Bills, and then the Bengals
kind of came out of nowhere andthey're like, oh, it's a triple
threat, and then they kind oftried to push all three of them.
I feel like that's the only reason. Well, they listen, we've been
looking for someone to be the nextbest team in the ANFC for a long

(33:52):
time. I think we're begrudging tosay it's the Dolphins, and I get
that. Yeah, I mean that'smy pick currently for who could beat the
Chiefs in a foot race. ButI don't, you know Ravens. Yeah,
the Ravens are weird. I justhave a feeling they're gonna get hurt.

(34:13):
But besides that, they're good.That's how it happened the past few
years. But no one's wanting tocredit Lamar Jackson still, and we need
to like just watch him play like. People are still being like, uh,
I mean, he can run,but could he do anything else?
He's doing so well. He's throwingbetter than your favorite quarterback. Right,
He's clearly a top three quarterback.I should be the MVP. He really

(34:37):
sure, he for sure should bethe MVP, and it for sure will
be Jalen Hurts, but I mean, uh, you know maybe or CJ.
Stroud, Hey Stroud. I wasreally hoping they'd lose that game because
I was I wasn't gonna actually meetit, but I was gonna be so

(34:58):
loud on Oh see, I toldyou how told your highest state quarterbacks suck.
CEJ. Stroud experiment done. Hethrew like two or three interceptions.
Insane, insane, But they wantalso can I tell you something. This
is very our show. I'm lookingin the background. We're recording here.
This is not related anything, folks, now, and if you don't like
slightly gross things, skip ahead aboutthree minutes. I was just sitting in

(35:22):
here and I was looking around andI for the last ten minutes we've been
talking, there's something on the groundin the corner, and I'm like,
what the fuck is that? Doyou have a weird necktie? Like what
is going on? And I did. Our dog took the biggest shit I've
ever seen. Like it's just inthe corner of our room. Absolutely,
there's definitely like that's a big pileof dog turns. I've been like trying

(35:45):
to figure it out. Our dog'snineteen pounds. That's that's like a third,
that's twunder. Yeah, that's that'sa big like it looks like a
necktie kind of thing tied around likea ribbon. You see that. I
don't know, so I did.I took him on an hour walk earlier
and he didn't go, probably becauseyou just desecrated my studio. Yeah,

(36:08):
wait till this motherfucker brings me home. He's gonna be so excited. Really,
when I'm gonna turn it loose.But I don't know. I'm just
like the things about a pet ownerthat they never tell you, you know,
they never really grow out of it. Our doggie is forty two in
talkiers? Is that a I don'tthink that's a real thing. By the

(36:28):
way, you know, Oh thisis good, let's talk about it.
You don't think doggies are real?Do you just not want to accept the
news is about to turn twenty one? Well, like the scientific study words
like, yeah, every one isseven to them. If we were all
like I agree, Like there's noscience spy that the dog years real.

(36:52):
Yeah, okay, you do that. I'm gonna say doggie is not real.
And well he's just at the Universityof California and San Diego Medicine.
I found that this is not true. Come on, dude, Like,
there's no shot from the Jerusalem Post. New new study debunks dog years myth.

(37:13):
Interesting, that's why they are.But yeah, there's no shot.
That's the same article I'm in.But I might want to look at a
different source. Let's how about FXFox six Milwaukee. Everything good comes from
Milwaukee. Dog years is just amyth. New research shows nonlinear relationship with

(37:34):
yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Like the first year of a dog's
life is equivalent to fifteen human years. Okay, the first year of a
dog's life is equal to about fifteenhuman years. The second year of a
dog's life is equal to about ninehuman years. This makes sense, Like
I'm thinking of like cows when wegrew up like all that. You know.
Yeah, two, they're having kids, so yeah, that makes sense.

(37:58):
So after a dog, Once adog turns three, it's about twenty
four okay, and then each additionalyear is about four or five human years.
So lou, let's give him fiveeach, No, let's give him
four and then five, so it'sadding eighteen to twenty four. He's forty

(38:24):
two. It still ends up.I'm back. What you just did is
the equivalent of the stupid motherfucking TikToktread where it's like, if you take
twenty twenty three minus your birth year, it's the same as how old you
are right now. Yeah, ofof course it is. That's called your

(38:46):
aged motherfucker Like this is so Istill don't agree with what old holds.
Howld's the boy either seven or eightlike seven ish, Okay, you don't
want it to and that's fan dude. No, that's not it's not what
I'm saying. I just think peopleare stupid. They're just trying to like

(39:07):
make something. But there's a changeof view of your dog. If you
look at me, you're like,God, you're fifty four, that's what's
happening. Yeah, yeah, alittle bit. But also we don't do
it for any other animal none.Why why we like what? How many
years is a year for a fuckingbird? Forty eight? Yeah, I
think so. Bumble bees. Bumblebees live about fifty years and fifteen minutes.

(39:30):
I mean, drinking flies live oneday. Like every second is three
years. Cats are supposed to bethe same. And by the way,
breed of dog matters too, Likethere's so many things where it's like there's
no shot. Yeah, trees,you just open up and count the rings.

(39:50):
Yeah. Why haven't we tried thatwith a dog? Have you tried
to asking bark? How old areyou? True? It's a great point.
I mean, that's a funny thingthat you don't believe it, Like
what, I don't like being toldsomething and just be like, yeah,
accept it, give me the proof. And there's that is a very funny

(40:14):
reason to make that argument. Iagree with you about that because it's almost
impossible to argue with that. Yes, I agree that you should be able
to prove things, But I willsay I think we've let our dogs off
the hook. I think for years, like I'm gonna go out there,
I'm not gonna talk to Lou likehe's a fucking six year old. I'm
gonna talk to him like he's afucking forty two year old who just booped

(40:35):
to my thing. That's fair,that's not okay. Who's someone who's forty
two that you know in real life? So that's a tough age for me
right now? What about what about? Okay, so Frid who appeared on
the Plane Catchup podcast is thirty six? Is that close someone? Someone who's
in the ballpark is our cousin Christine. So if Christine came over, it

(40:57):
just shipped in the corner, likethat's okay. You have a daughter,
she graduated in high school, that'strue, And you're pooping in the thing
and that's you can't do that,you know, But if you know Emily
comes over and does it, shestill got a little spunk in her.
But hey, you know what,like you rubber knows it a little bit,
but you know, I'm not gonnablame her. Honestly, that is

(41:19):
so true. Like, my leastfavorite phrase is somebody who works with college
students kids will be kids. Ifucking hate that. Yeah. A maintenance
man told me that this week becauseI had students throwing craft singles at windows
to see if they would freeze.They said, said that they would freeze
tough the windows, and they said, kids will be kids. I said,
what the fuck are you talking about? You know what I did when
I was a kid, learned allthe names of the dinosaurs. Yeah,

(41:44):
also eight all the singles I couldfigured out counts, loved them. So,
okay, do you you firmly disagreewith kids will be kids? However,
what's your stance on boys will beboys? Because I agree with that
one. I think, you know, it got us out a lot of
stuff. I don't think. Idon't think I love Saturdays for the boys.

(42:04):
Sure, Okay, okay, Idon't like boys will be boys,
but I do like, uh,dudes will be dudes. But just guys
being dudes. That's always just guysbeing dudes is a fun one. Okay,
Okay, I'm glad we landed onthat at least before we get off

(42:28):
the topic of Emily, I dowant to bring up to the listeners.
Yes, that's what we mainly talkedabout this week. Yes, yeah,
I really think we need to doa dating call. Uh, like a
little bachelorette competition here with all ofthe bull riders listening, in all of

(42:49):
your friends as well. If youare an eligible bachelor and you happen to
own a cowboy hat, maybe spurs, you have at least two belt buckles,
you would describe yourself as a littleeh yeah, absolutely absolutely. If
you have a pickup and you knowit's lifted to a certain height, we'll

(43:09):
set the specification if you should haveshaved a couple of days ago. But
there's we need to we would liketo hear from you. I think we
need to have a competition, whetherit be on the show or if we
do a spinoff. And I don'tcare, but I think send us a
description, send us a photo anda description. Also for anyone listening.

(43:32):
Who listening knew that Facebook had adating app. H You're out of the
game a little bit. I knewthat one. Why Facebook, what was
that decision? I think it's aspin off of Marketplace. I uh,
like, what's the social media thatall of our parents are on? Facebook?
Let's put a dating app on that. But that's what it's for,

(43:53):
dude. It's like the number onedating app for people like age forty or
nan. Emily, Well, she'sgot it. Well, Emily's doing that
thing right now. I know She'sgonna get pissed at this. Emily's doing
that thing right now where she's she'sgot dating apps that actually are working,
and then she spends all of hertime on the funny one. That's fair.

(44:15):
We go through those phases. I'vebeen in those moods. Yeah,
I mean I relate to that,So, I mean, that's what's happening.
But honestly, second person I talkedto, I just talked to someone
at that Iowa conference who met someoneon Facebook dating, which the people on
her fucking thing were from Iowa.I don't think it's at least anywhere else.
That guy went to u W.Whitewater, which also seems fair.

(44:37):
But I mean, yeah, thatyou know, seems right. But yeah,
I yes. Seriously, though,fun listeners of the show, do
you meet this criteria? Are youa nice guy? Do you know how
to treat a lady. Yep,you want to have some fun. Okay,
check your check and little cowboy,yeah, at least a little bit,

(45:02):
not too cowboy. I'm gonna drawthe line. Do you believe in
women's rights? Okay? Okay,however, we will make an exception if
you owe a lasso or your nameis Lasso. Yeah, either or either
or the lasso exception for that,but yeah, let us know. Otherwise,

(45:23):
I'm just gonna start going down theprofessional bull riding. If you have
two first names, you're also in. That's also very yeah, for sure,
for sure, some great stuff.If it sounds like your first name
is actually a last name, that'susually also very useful. If you have
two last names, you're also in. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's

(45:44):
that's no names true. I've gotone last sports thing for you before we
do our turkey thing. It's gonnatake two seconds, but you're gonna get
a kick out of it. Okay. The New York Yankees baseball team.
This happened a week ago, butwe didn't have a chance to talk about
and fit our press conference topic.These years ach they really struggled. It

(46:05):
was their worst record since nineteen ninetyone for a team that's parentally good.
They just finished with a winning record. If they had a losing record,
it would have been their first losingrecord since the seventies in a sport with
one hundred and sixty games, sothey've been pretty good. Their owner came
out, famously owned by one ofthe biggest like asshole families, the Steinbrenner's.

(46:30):
Well it's the sun now since Halpassed away, so or since Hank
passed away, and so some cameout. He starts his press conference act
and he's like, totally unacceptable.This is not the Yankees way. You
got to get better. We haveto make adjustments, we have to go.
Then their GM came out. TheirGM has been there since the nineties,

(46:51):
and people have been calling for hishead. Little branded stay action,
but much longer period. And he'slike no, no, no, and
they've said nope, he's staying there. He's part of the he's part of
the furniture. You know, he'scoming through. He comes out. That's
what his owner just said. Hecomes out, there, opens up and
I've got the exact quote here becauseI didn't want to get it wrong.

(47:12):
I'm proud of our people, andI'm proud of our process. Doesn't mean
we're firing on all cylinders, doesn'tmean we're the best in class, but
I think we're pretty fucking good.This is for a team who lost their
division. Also came out Zach andsaid some awesome things like people get on
us for how much we use statistics, and now we lean on statistics too

(47:35):
much. Well, we have thesmallest analytics department in the Al East.
It's weird flex Okay. Then hegets in. He gets into an argument
with a reporter, which is thereal highlight of the press conference. Reporter
comes down and says, this rookie, you know, he was starting to
hit at the end of the yeara little bit, but hadn't hit too

(47:58):
much. But you've all already saidwith the numbers that like you were gonna
stick with these guys who weren't doinggood. Is there a reason you weren't
gonna start him no matter what?And Cashman goes the GM's like, well,
why would you say we were gonnastart no matter what? He wasn't
hitting, And the other guy goes, well, if he started hitting,
you've already said there wasn't a spotfor him. Well, if he was

(48:20):
hitting, maybe the other guy wouldhave been hitting. He like, doesn't
understand hypotheticals. He was like,no, no, no, then then
the other guy would have been better. Well what if and he's like,
no, that wouldn't have happened.It just it's a screaming match back and
forth, and it's all semantics.And then after stating how they don't lean
on statistics, he ended that argumentwas saying, our statistics department showed we

(48:44):
made the right ball. The ALUjust so funny to me that it's like,
that's what these things do. Like, I don't care what the owner
says. When the GM comes out, it is like, that's the thing.
The owner has no one above them, so they can come out and
be like, hey we got itwrong. But the GM's got out there

(49:07):
and be like I'm fucking hite,damn it. Yeah, I don't care
how many people I killed to provemy point. Yeah, don't yeah,
don't bring up any correct points.I got my point. That's true.
That's funny. I'm gonna what's hisname, uh, Brian Cashman, which
again great name for the Yankees GM. That is true. I do need

(49:29):
to go check that out and Anotherthing I think we all need to check
out is the NBA In Season Tournament. Yeah, we need. We need
to have a quick little update herebecause it was quite the week. It
was the first week. You know, we're in week three of the NBA
In Season Tournament. First week thatwe've had a full tournament week uh,
two games, so a lot ofchanges in the standings, a lot of

(49:52):
changes in the award race. We'llstart though, with one that stays the
same, the Dekembe Award. MotherfuckingBrook Lopez in two games has blocked fourteen
shots. He does not let anybody'sscore this year, and I absolutely love
it. Now, Jake, itseems we have run into another hurdle,

(50:15):
if you can believe it, withour statistics process, and we will have
to decide how we want to goforward. I'll start with the Will Levis
Award. That's the total assists,and leading in that currently is someone who's
played three games. That is NicolaJokic, who has thirty six assists in
three games. I think you mayhave already encountered the hurdle. We have

(50:37):
tripped and fell right over it.We'll get to it further in a second.
The Matthew Dela Vedova Award. Thoughassists per game we got last week.
We had four people tied for this, one of which got hurt,
but we got a new leader.It's Devin Booker, who played his first
tournament game. Fifteen assists. Fifteeninsists are pretty good. The Gordon Dragisch

(51:00):
Award, which is clutch assist,Drew Holiday leads with three per game,
so pretty good. There assists undersix foot the Short King Award, again
only one player qualified, Jacob Gilliard. He is averaging four per game in
the tournament, pretty good, andthe Jason Kelsey is Nikola Jokic averaging twelve

(51:22):
per game. So Jake, ifthere's a tie, we were doing five,
we were making our All NBA teamand we currently have one player who
we forgot about the rating back toback we forgot about. Yeah, but
he is currently in for two ofthem. So do we do a tiebreaker

(51:45):
if this happens in the future,And what is that tiebreaker? What should
it be in for which award?Because we can't do a tyebreaker for both,
you know, I mean, Idon't know if we need a tiebreaker,
I'm gonna throw it out that wecould have it like a boxing like
UFC thing. You can't, youknow, you gotta pick away class.
Okay, Okay, So but Ithink if there's one award that's more specific,

(52:10):
you keep the more specific one andwe move down the list. Okay,
when we get closer to the WorldCup, I'll reach out to Nikole
Jokic's brothers who seem pretty active indefending him, and we will see.
He'll have to pick one. Youcan't have both. We'll see what happens.
And the overall winner currently in thelead. So most total free throws

(52:35):
is also the Nuggets. They havemade ninety six through three games. They
are getting to the line, they'rehitting free throws, and they are passing
the ball a lot through Jokich.So I have thought about this a little
bit this week. There is aworse possible outcome for this tournament, which
is okay, it's just it's justthe normal playoff tournament. I can't like.

(53:00):
I think the whole fun thing waslet's see some other teams like get
in there and all this other stuff. But if just the best NBA team
wins this, that's boring. Imean, that was my pick. I
picked the Nuggets. I know,and like, listen for next year.
We gotta it makes no sense.You have to make these matchups not have

(53:22):
to be East and West. Yeah, that's so stupid. I can't stress
enough how this tournament doesn't matter.It's like, let it be fun,
Like, what are you doing?We already have a tournament at the end
of Let's make it just like theend of the year tournament, but with
no stakes. Yeah. Yeah,Truthfully, every decision in planning this they

(53:45):
made the wrong decision. They madethe wrong choice and every step of the
way. And there's something beautiful aboutthat. But it's also not good.
It's not like twenty wrongs makes aright in this situation. But through all
the odds, Jake, I mean, you've said it, I've said it,

(54:06):
a lot of people have said it. It's been fun basketball. I
don't know how. It doesn't makesense. It's been really fun. We
don't need much to care about basketball. It's the most exciting game. Yeah,
fair, fair enough, I mean, and I don't know if the
players are getting extra motivated on tournamentnights or if it's just the the shock

(54:29):
of the amount of color that's entering. If it's like a sensory overload from
the courts that's making them go alittle bit crazy. I don't know,
but it's been fun. I feellike they've turned it up a little bit,
and uh, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. But
the Nuggets are certainly the best team. I don't think that's even a topic
of discussion at this point. Yeah, I mean, no, they've been

(54:52):
the best team. I think what'shappening with the Warriors is interesting. My
only quick thing is I think we'vebeen and so quick to put the blame
on James Harden in La, Ithink we've missed the real culprit. Who's
that? I mean, it's definitelyRussell Westbrook. Wow, what's right?

(55:14):
The reverse mit is touched everywhere hetouches his ship. No, no,
no, Like, how is hegetting it? Finally happened? Remember the
one year he got so sad becausewe were so mean to him. Yeah,
I'm telling you, I mean almosteveryone agrees with you. By the
way, people hate James Harden,they also hate Russell Westbrook. It's not

(55:37):
mutually exclusive, that's true. However, I like Russell Westbrook, and I'm
not saying he's the greatest player.I'm not saying he helps his team win.
I'm not saying he's good, buthe's great, Okay, he is.
I love Mesa Russell West, whichis fair. It's also how I
feel about Harder right now. Heturned me with two of my Faceaver quotes

(56:00):
all the time this week. Itjust needs some time to get into James
Harden shape. Okay, great,which you shouldn't take that much time?
Are getting in James arn shape acouple of hours? Yeah, nuggets,
you know, get in there somestrippers James Orange allegedly. Uh and then

(56:22):
uh part two, I'm not assistantplayer on the system. So good.
I mean, I love it that. I mean, this is, by
the way, how it's Paul Pierce'sattitude. I can't believe it. Someone
believed d'An TONI was talking that allthe time and he just bought it.

(56:45):
Hook bine and singer. He's like, A right, I gotta get out
there. I gotta shoot at three, I gotta get some get spread out,
spread out, return to sock puppet, D'Antoni, sack tony good the
perimeter, shoot shoot shoot volume,volume, quitity over quality. Where's the

(57:06):
boy? Yeah? Oh god,I mean good for James Harden somewhere d'An
Toni's smiling like Dann Bright. Heis the system. It's the system I
created, which is twice isolation basketball. Let's just dribble and shoot. Defense

(57:27):
doesn't matter, no, not atall, Jake. Like I said,
it's Thanksgiving week, and I thinkwe should end it by creating a starting
five. We just talked about basketball. We love basketball. We do talk
mostly about football, but basketball isa fun sport. And in honor of
the in season tournament and Thanksgiving collidingfor the first time ever, I think

(57:50):
we do need to create the startingfive of Thanksgiving foods. I just typed
in the list of Thanksgiving foods.I got thirty here. Some I agree
with, some confuses me, andsome maybe shouldn't be separated. So I'm
just gonna go down the list,and then we are going to put these

(58:10):
guys into starting five, and wegotta have a six man Okay, okay.
So from the top to the bottom, we got turkey, we got
stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy inits own thing, so confusion there,
cranberry sauce, corn, green bean, cast roll, candy, jams,

(58:32):
pumpkin pie, pecan pie, dinnerrolls, brussels sprout, corn bread,
deviled eggs, macaroni and cheese,roast, ham, roast, beef,
butternut, squash, soup, waldorfsalad, green salad, baked beans,

(58:53):
scalloped potatoes, maple glazed carrots,sweet potato, cast roll, apple,
cider, wine, apple pie,cherry pie, pumpkin cheesecake. And then
the last one is coffee and tea. So some of them, I think
we can cross off consideration right away. Yeah, but is there anything that

(59:16):
really jumps out to you? Weneed a starting five when you a six
man, and if there is acoach amongst the group, maybe they will
separate themselves as we can. Wecall it massed potatoes and gravy. I
think, so, okay, okay, are we making this collaborative? Yeah?

(59:37):
Yeah, I think in the inthe spirit of Thanksgiving, let's come
together and not kill people for theirland, you know, let's do something
together here. That's true. I'vegot I don't know if this is the
place to start. I think sixman jumped out to me, Okay,
what's that cranberry sauce cramer? Ido like that, and I have a

(01:00:02):
specific player in my mind who craanberrySauce is. Now that you say that,
do you have anyone that specifically jumpsout to you though? Uh?
Karan Butler crom Butler is interesting,okay, always around, never the star,

(01:00:22):
but he kind of makes teams betterand you don't remember him making them
better and then you're like, Iguess Karen was there. That's true.
I'm not sure if that's six manenergy, though, I feel like we
need someone who's gonna be that spark, someone's really going to be like they
have the confidence of they need tobe a starter, but they're not a
starter, you know. And forme, I got Jamal Crawford. I

(01:00:45):
think he can saw some people up. I think Lou Williams could also fall
into this, like he sauces somepeople. For sure. I like that,
and that's the right energy, probablyRue Williams. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I think so. Ido, because it's not for everybody.
That's why I'm not starting our situations. Made a decision supposedly himself to come

(01:01:07):
off the bench now to be thesixth man. I'm sure it was his
decision, and his decision a lot. So I made the decision to become
a football managers. Yeah, theybeggs you like, no, we need
a quarterback. You're six, sayplease? But yeah, so Russell Westbrook's
not for everybody. Neither's Cranberry sauce. I like it. I like it.

(01:01:31):
I feel like we need to haveTurkey in the lineup. Turkey's somewhere
in the lineup, and I don'tthink any of the other meats are Okay,
I'm in that with you. Iwas trying to think around that.
I think it's turkey. Yeah,I think for sure Turkey's are meat.
And I don't think turkey can beanything other than power forward or center.

(01:01:55):
Yeah, that's kind of where I'mat too. They definitely there's a wing
pun there. But I just don't, you know, no, see,
I agree with you. I feellike mashed potatoes and gravy, that sort
of wombo combo, uh sort of. You know. They have different skill
sets, but together they are somethingvery great. I think that almost could

(01:02:15):
be a small forward. I thinkso pretty big small forward for sure.
Yeah, it's definitely like a sixnine brief here, right, but they
got but but you know, forsure, though heavy on the grave,
it's a it's a dual skill sethere as he gets older, more potato,

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maybe more power forward, but younger, heavy on the gravy. I
think so. I think Turkey powerforward power because it's the you know.
But for us, I think wego through the power forward, right,
We're a Tim Duncan for sure.I mean Turkey is always going off glass.
They are always Turky. I can'tremember. I can't count the number

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of times that Turkey said the squareson there for a reason, you know,
always is going off the backboard.I mean, let's call it Turkey
is Charles Barkley. Yeah, sure, that's true. Charles Barkley is a
Turkey. Yeah for sure, forsure, I've been thinking that this whole
time. Put a headband on Turkey. Yeah it's not Charles hate san Antonio

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women for sure showed that Cliff Declairefor the first time this week. She's
like, this is so mean andthe best thing I've ever seen. I'm
like those mag old women, shoutout Charles fan of the show. Okay,
we need I think we start withthe harder ones because we've got options
for center. But I think wedo or do you want to get the

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easy one on and we just pickour poison for center? No, no,
I think we need to figure outthe backcourt. I think so too.
Who's making it all work? Who'sour our floor okay, well,
is our point guard our floor general? Or do we've got to do it
all point guard? I think wemay be better with a floor general type.
I agree, I agree. Imean there's one. I'm trying to

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separate the food from the skill herebecause to me, like I could see
baked beans being like a barely sixfoot headband guy who is just very stout.
But it's like, I don't know, I don't know, Like I
think one note guard. There's afood for me that's really missing off this
list, But I don't think it'sa backcourt. Like I'm trying to think

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of stuffing, but I don't think. I think stuffing and mashed potatoes and
gravy were buying for your small fordspot, probably right. I mean,
stuffing could easily be a shooting guard. That sort of stuff's the stat sheet
if you want to say that,or actually, you know what, no,
no, no, no. Stuffingis our Victor Webb and Yama.

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Stuffing is see, that's what Iwas saying. We still have a center
of a grab. Stuffing is ourWemby. Absolutely the admiral. Admiral Stuffing.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Oh, Stuffing is the clear center.
Yeah for sucking everybody. Yes,that's that's obvious. That's very obvious.

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That's good. Do we really haveno desserts? That's like my true true
pumpkin I don't think pumpkin Pie isin the back court. I don't.
I mean, pumpkin Pie could bea you know, a sweet pump fake
pumpkin Pie thinks they're a shooter.They need to get more rebounds. Pumpkin

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Pie could be could be the coach. Pumpkin Pies a great coach. They
used to have it all. Everyoneone's glad they're they're pumpkin Oh my god,
who's that guy? Pumpkin Pie isLarry Brown? Larry you know who

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I thought of as pumpkin Pie asthe old astro's manager. They got Dusty
Absolutely, Dusty Baker for sure.Uh, that's great. Pumpkin Pies coach.
I love that. I think.Okay with ours, Okay, this

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is where we're really gonna get intoit, Zach. I've got I think
because I'm gonna say something, you'regonna be like, that's not my favorite
side dish and that's like, that'swhere we're at right now. But for
me, who's making it all workout there like solid good not the star
of the show, but you cantell them when they're missing. I'm gonna

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go dinner roll slash Crescent Roll.Oh okay, I wint our nominee mostly
French. I didn't even consider CrescentRoll pills. Barry Parker, mm,
I like that. That is verytrue, though I don't know now.

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I just guide in my mind isdifferent. Uh, like foods that are
like to us, like is leftside here is We're going to get into
Norwegian a little. Yeah, howdo we get Flaw on the list?
I do like I do like CrescentRoll. I want to specify Crescent Roll
for a point guard. Well,that's the thing. It wasn't from our

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initial list, but I I thinkthat deserves to be on the holiday list
for sure. I yeah, yeah, I mean that's there more than hard
when we were at the same thingsgivings. But I agree. I think the
list wears seven layer Jello. Ithought that to start. I think there'd
be a great shooting guard. Yeahfor sure. True. Okay, so

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we got Pumpkin Piet Coach we gotcrescent roll. At Point Guard, we
got mashed potatoes and gravy at thethree, we got turkey at the flour
Stuffing potatoes, gravy, turkey andstuffing punish in the pain and by the
mashed potatoes and gravy is a runnertest, like I do think he is

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a roar test. He's locking peopledown. These are absolutely the Larry Brown
stuffing his bed, Wallace dude,the three pistons right now, We just
that helps you. Who's Chauncey's Chauncey'scresting roll? Who's Rip hambleton Y cast

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role? Is he that? Oris he candied yaps? Because I think
he's sweet like that. I likea cream corn situation or a corn or
like a scalloped corn. You know, well, you know who we want
on the list. But I don't. I don't think that people would let
us do it. I don't thinkthey let us get away with it.
I mean this is a little RipHamilton situation. Uh, deviled eggs,

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I don't know. I know you'repushed for it. I don't tell you.
Is that a thing's giving food?I'm always happy there there, I
know, But that's the one thatreally stuck out, like we need a
castrole. You need a cast role. Green bean castle. I hate it,
but I don't mind that that aresweet potato castroles on here, green

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bean sweet potato cast role. Ithink you could add like that scalped corn
thing. I think that's a cornthat's not a hot take a corn castrole,
for sure. I think that's aboutokay honestly either because I think for
me, yam or sweet potato castis like similar enough to me. Yeah,

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you know, I think sweet potatoesare very thanksgiving for sure. For
sure, that little mushmallow thing thatAndrea makes, oh my god, so
good and so good. So yeah, I think that is our rip,
Hamilton Pott. Yeah. So wegot crescent rolls running the point. We

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got we got sweet potato cast role, just playing good defense of shooting,
doing the really cool free throw ourroutine. We got mashed potatoes and gravy
at small forward. Our turkey isTajon Prince. We didn't talk about that.
I forgot about that is the three. He was the three, So

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mashed potato is a gravy Tajon.But that also kind of fits him.
Yeah, he was like a six' ten, no that's good. That's
a good. Yeah. We gotRashid's our turkey, which is right,
that's correct. And then we gotstuffing aka Ben Wallace fucking lurketed the paint.

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I love it, except really whatwe have is Rashid. I think
Rashid is mashed potatoes and gravy,because in this weird world it is the
three Pistons. But Charles Barkley's playingpower forward held on a couple more years,
and Flip Saunders is back as pumpkinPie, good old Flip, that
warm sixth man. Who's the sixthman on the three Pistons. Man,

(01:11:27):
let me look, let me look, let me look two thousand and three
pistons. This makes me upset thatI don't know this actually stats. Okay,
So Mohammed o' kerr or Lindsay Hunter. Lindsay Hunter is my six man.
I will say that. And Ithink he's more. I think he's

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more Cranberry sauce for sure, orChucky Atkins. That that guy is kind
of Crayberry sauce. I love someChucky Atkins. Yeah, I wish,
I wish JJ Reddick was on thisteam. That's what I was arded for.
But Uh, what a what abitch? We had dark old milicic

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talking about cranberry sauce. We gotMike James, what a what a bench?
I love Mike James. He alsomade his way that t wolfs that
one. I don't think this isan exact replica of the Three Pistons,
but we're pretty damn close. Andby the way, one of the greatest
teams. We let Larry Brown pickthe All Star Game. He just took

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all his guys. Oh yeah,Larry Brown was that coach. Wasn't flipped
that is yeah, and then theyfired him. Larry didn't do good enough
job winning that chip. No,no, not good enough. I mean
we could say that with Bud Coachright now too. With dude, we
did it. Crescent rolls, sweetpotato castle, mashed potatoes, gravy,

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turkey and stuffing. Is I mean, that's it, that's uh. I
mean, there's a piece of methat feels this is a little uh,
this is a little Michigan State basketball. It's a little it's a little doochy
for me. But you know,uh, a lot of plumbles out there.

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Hey, hey, I mean we'rejust trying to win championships here,
sorry, we're not. We're nottrying to get cute with it. We're
not the Utah Jazz just adding everytall white guy and saying, hey,
if we get one, that's prettycool in our cross heart. That's right,
that's right. I mean, weknow Devil Leggs is on the team.

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It's just they don't have a they'renot coming first off the bench.
Green bean cast rules banged out.It's a little over the haill. Mm
hmmm, that is true. Waldorfsalad comes in when we need something to
foul. True, good good hackA second, my other six man nominee
was gonna be apple cider. Butto me, I'm I think that's more

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of a Christmas drink or Halloween.It's just not thanksgusing. Yeah yeah,
yeah. Usually it's gone by things. I mean, there is only one
Christmas strick, which one you knowwhat it is? Tom and Jerry specifically
are Tom and Jerry. I toldyou, yeah. I told Claire,

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our partner, it's going to beher first one this year, and I
was like, buckle up, haveanother drink. Handy. Lindsey already has
been told to refuse it by multiplepeople like just say no, no,
no, no, even Dan isbeing like, do not be a hero
here. There is no heroes.Dan's telling you to turn down an alcoholic

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beverage. You do it, okay, Bloody Dan doesn't throw words around lightly,
Bloody Dan saving room for his sixdeviled egg true that the ex upset
and confused why his stomach hurts?He must have been bad. I don't
know. I know, well,Zach. We end the show. Do
you have any grievances for the people? I feel like thanks Giving is too

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early. I feel like we reallyscrewed the pooch on this one. I
think we should have come together andyou know, if it needs to be
in December, it can be inDecember. I don't think there's a rule
that it has to be in November. Like, no one's tying us to
this. So I'm upset by that, but I'm still not over the we

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as a people. Jake and Ineed everyone to listen up here. Question
everything that you're told. If someonesays, oh, yeah, every every
year for a dog is seven years, ask why, and if they cannot
tell you, then just erase itfrom your memory. Like until people can
tell you reasons for things, givea little pushback. It's okay to push

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back, like explained it to meas I was a five year old dog.
What's that to you year old dog? Someone who's not even a year
old? Or are they thirty five? I don't know, but either way
we need to get a grit.People. Wake up, sheeple. This
isn't the real thing. Dogs aren'tseven years old every year. It's weird.

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Don't make up stories like this.It's that cute. It's that cute.
What do we get out of it? Whoever made up that lie is
dead and they are laughing and they'refucking great. It was it was Garfield,
that motherfucker stupid. I'm with you. I'm with you, and I

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win the show on this. Yourrant is solid. It's also for sure
why people think the Earth is flat? Prove it? Tell me, show
me. I would go up ina plane make some money if the Earth
was round. Do you think Kyriewould be next to me? You could

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fool Kyrie, Kyrie Hayrie being theflat earther of of everybody, we haven't
heard much from Kyrie, Jake.I want you to look up for next
show. If Kyrie has had anythingfun since leaving Brooklyn. I feel like
he's kept his mouth shut, probablytoo busy trying to find that edge.

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True, True, it's got tobe in Dallas, it has to be
Okay. Next time folks have fun, eat some turkey, let us know
they're all h