Gaels of November Came Early (Ep. 236)

Zach and Jake (mostly Zach) mourn the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, then they recap the headlines from NFL Week 10.              

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Hey, don't miss the play. Flurry Sports will save
your day, Carcain joke, Swiss Sports Inside, Zach and Shake
they get it right. Fuck you.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome to three Sports Podcast. It's a sad day. It's
a sad podcast. I mean, one of us is sad.
One of us apparently is having the day of their life.
Can you guess which one that is? One of us
has conscious? One of us cares about the twenty people,
twenty nine people. Excuse me, I went down when the
gales of November came early.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Sad.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's sad, but I'm Zach Brunner. Jake Osmond's here. This
is a thirty minute loop of the instrumental of the
record of the End in fifth year Old that I
will do twice if the show needs it.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Excuse me. The background the whole time. It's gonna be
distracting day to me.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I gotta tell you, I'm in my fields. I'm listening
to the record the n Minfitzgerald. I'm drinking my hull
Cogan real American beer. I'm really going through it today.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
How you did? I saw a little hal Cogan during Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Saw a little hul Cogan. Okay, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
He was a child in the costume, probably like three
years old. He came up to me Tavi and I
got way too excited Broer. He like kind of struck away,
but yeah, he wasn't He wasn't quite old enough to
banner because we were trying to do brother to him.
I was like, did you you know did you eat
your items as you drink your milk? He said, I
don't like milk. I said, well, you picked the wrong costume.

(01:45):
I did. The Hawks would hate him, hulks like. I
was like, all right, your dad is sad hawk tied.
Did he put you in that costume? I understand pingo ingo.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Dad should have been macho man. They should have went
at it all night. The way to do it, one
hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Here's my thing with the song you tell me as
a stand of this song, by the way, I think
part of the reason I'm in this mood, Like I
don't dislike this song at all. I woke up from
the text from Jared print of the show at like
six am being like ring the bell twenty nine times.

(02:22):
He had already posted on Facebook. I have a friend
at work who had already posted on Instagram. Yeah, you're
certain show like.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
This ball nowhere's no, they do not ring it twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Nine times they ring at thirty mm.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
For Gordon also passed. He might as well have been
out the ship. That dude's an American hero.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Here's my question. Do you think the people on the
ship would be mad at that that Gordon got in there? Like?
Does Spielberg get to be buried at Arlington because he
made take a private Ryan? Like? What's the lie? You know? Okay,
I don't know. I'm just wondering, Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean people get like honorary Pa from Harvard all
the time. I feel like this is essentially the same thing.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I mean, for sure, it's like knighting people. I get it.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's a similar situation too. I feel like
I ran for three touchdowns this week, much like Jonathan Taylor.
You know, I started up in fantasy congrats to be
I just.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I do think that we need to track people who
like who love the wreck of the Edward Fitzgerald wond
right here.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh, I know love love is an interesting I have
passion towards it. I you know, it takes up a
great deal of my week to week time admiring reading, uh, meditating,
it feels like I'm playing RuneScape right now, right, I
think we're about to go toousand six. Yeah, uh yeah,

(03:51):
right there too.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
That's so true. Talk about a thing people now can't
relate to.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
No man, that was, that was it.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
That's Escape.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Was where I first raceed Creak, that Soldier boy the
first time.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, lots of ruin Escape. Like early social media.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
There was. Yeah, ship went down under Escape and they
still have it. I still know my logger. You should
get that going again.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's so true because it's like all the other early
Internet things, like people remember World of Warcraft. I don't
think people give run Escape the love it deserves.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I don't think so. I don't think so. It was
to me at least felt just as big, and it
was free.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
So I think it was bigger at one point for sure.
I think do you think that it just fully got
replaced by Minecraft? I just think it was such a
one to one in terms of audience.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I truly have no idea, but that makes sense to me.
You know, I'm not even I'm not even yes that one.
That's my bad, no, bud no, But I honestly don't know.
That's a great question to the audience.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Because if you ever I don't think you've ever done
that on any I have no opinion. My scream when talk,
I'm back, okay, sorry, panic way.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
To say plead the fifth thought. I guess that's my bad.
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's so funny. It's like I'm it was like you
were court all of a sudden, You're like your honor.
I'm not qualified. I'm not an expert witness.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I honestly, there's a little panic around me where it's
like I don't want to say the wrong thing about
rudescaping Micraft. I don't I don't need that heat.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's so true. I just think you're the Okay, you
are the exception to this. But most of the folks
who I know who are passionate about the history and
lore and respect around the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
They could tell me books and books about the wreck
of the ship. It's historical significance, the song Gordon Lightfoot's backstory.
They fucking hated school. They hated it like school wasn't
for me. I'm not a learner. They're like, you're not
gonna respect the twenty nine souls who went down and sleep.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Could you imagine Gordon life with being your history teacher.
He tricked a lot of people into learning about history.
The dude, the dude, he's the Bill Nye of the
history community.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's so true. But it's like also if it's perfect,
because it's the same way that it's like our history
teachers randomly were like every school had to learn about
the lost Colony of Roanoke for some goddamn reason.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Like it's like, why why was that in the history
of the Bermuda Triangle?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Not just I had to learn about I had like
a whole course about it in college. Talk about useless,
like it's kind of cool, but it was a it
was enough, you know, it didn't need to be a semester.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Of Rowanoak uh not Roanoak.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
It was pretty much let's say, name of the other
last the oldest to America.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, James starts not Jamestown.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
It starts with Way before Jamestown starts with h. I
kind of book about that. One book shows from pouch.
It's like from it's like in Illinois. It's in the Midwest.
I can't remember its fucking name, Croton. What do I
need to go look at the book. Does that good
of her content?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right now? I don't believe it, believe it. It's hard
to look up anything without getting rown. Ok, but I
appreciate the die back there.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean, okay, you know what, let's do research this.
That's what today is about. It's about remembering history and
everything around it. So the Oldest American.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
House by the way off show, we were like, this
gotta be a quick one today.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, this gonna be a big one.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Let's see, colony is the wrong word because colony implies
uh uk, So we don't want the word colony. Village
Is that the right word?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Not the right word.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's truly ten feet away from me, but I can't
be bothered to go look at the bookshelf Oldest American
not row. No, the sunflower seed bread, the sponsors seed.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
What is it? Hey, it's gonna be sponsored, thank you?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, shout out great sunflower seeds. Don't even leave you
at that sand did you hear?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
There's people who think they found the ark.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Noah's or somebody else's. Okay, ark turkey Turkey. That's a twist.
I mean, actually that makes perfect sense. But to me, yeah,
it's always white Noah.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
By the way, thank you. AI overview. The search for
Noah's Ark and Turkey centers on the Durapinar site, a
boat shaped geolectrical formation near a mountain they were talking
about on the Today Show today, and I did, I'm
not gonna lie. I was hooked and then I lost
a little interest with They were like, yes, researchers Christians
from the United States. I was like, I'm out. I's like,

(09:11):
we definitely just got hyped about a boat shape. Out, Okay,
this is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
There's a very old village in Wisconsin calls Aland, which
is very cool. I just visited that this summer that
is connected to the old the village. I know that
that I am looking out. So we're gonna go to
as it Land and then we will look back from there.
I had Aztec history for sure. This is the best
episode of Before You Sports podcast since Panther City, I

(09:40):
do believe, which is all timer. I believe that did
that happen on air or off air?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, Panther City definitely happened on air. Panther City happened
on air. So did the time that we learned about
the origins of the league and a man known only
as Ben Thomas.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
What's it on Kahokia? Oh, but a good payoff. Never
And that's essentially all that needed to be done for
that course.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
At least. I didn't go Nope, never heard of that.
I didn't know, but yeah I didn't. Yeah, I went.
I gave you a reaction.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
This took a long time to find. I imagine a
whole semester of that, and that was the course for
the most part. It was I don't even know what
the course was. It didn't make sense. I don't even
there was no connections between it because I think we
also did ancient like Middle East stuff in that class too.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, I don't know. I know this is a bit
of a loaded question for you because you went to
school for history education. If you had to pick a
niche history topic to do a whole semester on, what
would you pick something like that? But you know, maybe
with a little more payoff, I guess niche.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Can so I can't just be like, you know, pretty niche.
I really like the psychology of Nazi Germany. That was
kind of cool, but that's not very diiche. Yeah, it's
because of where we are. But I do like the
way Wisconsin was founded, in the way like the munk
culture came Wisconsin. I think that's really cool. I did
a big project from that.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
That's a good pick. I did a history of migrations
and that was for sure the best part of the
class was when they focused on that particular one I
would do. I would do when the hall Hogan pinned
iron chic. I don't think people talk enough about it.
I think I would do history from the lens of

(11:45):
like I'd picked five WWE matches and be like, I
definitely teach about the time that they needed Sergeant Slaughter
to be a heel, so they turned to Meal during
the Golf War and had him sleeper. She had him
become ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean, you could do that on our YouTube channel.
That could be the thing that could be like the
way times wrestling intersected with real politics.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, that's true. I will just be like storylines we
should all talk about more. I talk about that we
could do an episode on Eugene.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
It could maybe be maybe a limited series.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, okay, I was thinking about this day before we
get off of it. I was like, I have to
remember to tell Zac because as much shit as I
give you for how much you love Eugene, I remembered.
I was like, well, that's my version of that, which
is I can't believe how much I'd like the storyline
where they revealed I don't know if you were following
along at all when they were like, Vince has another son,

(12:49):
do you remember that? Or like Vince has a secret child.
So they're like building two for weeks and then best
set up for pay By the way, WW nails a
setup every time. They missed the payoff every time, but
the setup always there. Who hit stone Cold? You know
it's obviously triple h but you know, yeah, boss Man,

(13:10):
because swerved you Rakishi, he did it for the rock.
Do you remember that? Even better that you can do
a whole setup on the show, they have the entire
roster come out surround Vince in the ring, Vince cuts

(13:31):
a promo you should be honored to be part of
the family. Yeah. He starts doing fun facts like I
think this isn't God is my witness. I think the
guy reading out the fun facts is the same dude
who used to host Gladiators. I think it was the
short span of time where that guy was on w
W John Rome or something. Anyway, he was reading off

(13:55):
like the DNA test results, so he was like, Vince,
your son, your child, not a woman. And then they
sent all the dimos to the back. Your child is
a current champion. Oh and another they did like ten
rounds of charades. They all go to the back, and

(14:17):
then the big reveal. It's gonna either be in the ring.
It's either Triple H, who obviously Vince hates, and also
they love to tease because Triple H would be Vince's
real son and also married to Stephanie because w W
hates itself and has to do those things. So he's
in the ring and everyone's like, ooh, is it gonna

(14:37):
be Triple H or mister Kennedy who is awesome but
in real life was gonna be mister Kennedy, but people
in the back hated him so much they had to
swerve it Zach. So it was down to those two.
And then the guy goes it's neither of these people.
It's horn Swoggle, and the little leper cop comes out
from under the ring. He's Vince's dad and he runs

(14:59):
over and that story I lasted a week after that,
Vince had the results reversed. He was actually Finley's son
who loved him immensely, which and Finley, by the way,
knew the whole time. But he was conflicted because he
wanted a better life for his son Hornswaggle. He thought
he'd get that with Vince. They set it up so
good and they just and by the way, I was hooked.

(15:20):
It's just like you like, if it works, it works, dude, right,
did you ever do it again? No, can't defend the merits.
We can celebrate that that happened.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
At that point in time. It was the greatest thing
on television.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yes, exactly. I have a ww talian to NFL stories
when we get to that today.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well before that, I'm just gonna say, you just posted
an hour long video on the w on our YouTube channel,
So definitely go and watch that about fantasy booking slash
predicting the John Cena tournament leading up to his final
match in ww So go and watch that if you're
like me, who was like, I like wrestling, but I'm
not watching. It was a good catch up to figure

(16:01):
out like what potentially is happening and then what could
be happening, and obviously the John Cena is retiring, right,
so bringing in people I actually know, which is great,
like people from his past, so it's a good way
to get connected back to it.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I am so interested in what they're gonna do in
terms of who they pick out of this because I,
like I said, I texted you this today, we might
get a reaction to live on the show. I think
the odds that Christiaco Edge are in this tournament is
very likely, and I don't know how you have either
of those guys make it all the way to the final. Also,
do you want them to, like you want them to

(16:37):
beat all these like young studs and then what they
can't beat John Cena. They're both actively tied to a
W so they make it all the way through and
then lose. But like, also, if Edge's in the tournament,
no one's gonna want him not to face John Cena.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
True, that's true.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, that's I said it in the video. But I
was like, if I was actually booking WW, everyone would
hate me because what I do is exactly what I booked.
But then when Edge does lose in the termain and
I haven't faced John Cena anyway, I'd have John come
out and be like I'm not letting you off that easy,
and then we get it anyway, you.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Know, honestly, Yeah, John should come out after every match
in do the attitude adjustment to every loser, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah. Also, if this makes you want to watch the video,
this is the vibe. I cut two things that I
was gonna tell you about because I just couldn't find
a way to make a fit as much as the
other stuff I did, but I really wanted Stone Cold
be in. It just was like glass breaks, he's out.
But then I was like he'd have to lose, so

(17:39):
how does that work? Or like who does he face?
I was like, it's just Stone Cold versus Shabus, Like
what do I Because he's not based John Cena right away,
so what do we do? You know?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
True, that's something that is a point that I feel
like a lot of people are missing where it's like, yes,
this would be cool if they fought Sina, but they
got to get there.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yes, And for that reason I was I ge At
one point I was like, we could sneak one more
Scena match in like I'm one of the weeks he's there,
who should it be? And I was like, Kurt Angle
can't walk, but if he could, if we get kurtin there, perfect,
yes one more time, that was gonna debut against. I'm
like John Cena can't really move either, so it's just
guys like hug at each other.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
That'd be great. That'd be just submissions all the time match,
that'd be great. In faded Under, I was like, Regal
should be in this. Rv D should be in this.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, I would love sixteen people who can't move anymore,
because if all of them are bad or they're all good.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
True, they could do the worst the worst scenario they
could do, and let's make it all of the uh
like CGI whatever it is matches like they did with
Bray Wyttna, which by the way, I was a little disappointed.
Why not bring back Gray Wyatt for it do that
same thing again.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm just saying, if we did a random tournament Seamus
walks out his opponent Sandman, the place isn't gonna go.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Nuts, true, gonna be incredible.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I watched the Sandman be concussed by the time he
got down there.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Great, that's all we need. It doesn't matter, that's fine,
that's NFL. I beieven that concussions aren't real and even
if they are, it's fine. Like Jackson Dart should have
went right back into that game.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Scam cats Okay, scam Kattabou Scamskattaboy paid the price. Thought
he interrupted that process and now his body h price.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Brian Dabele cried for him, and now Brian Dable is
no longer.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
On the team. That's it. Yeah, the giants are. While
speaking of should we hit it, please watch that video.
Thanks for all the support. Get us to twenty k
by the Royal Rumble and we'll do a fun stream
watch along.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah. Absolutely, and we'll do it full wrestling here. Don't
you worry about that. It'll be if I promise, if
we're twenty k, I'll go over the top.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I'll go and se if we had twenty five k,
I've already said I'm going over the top row I'm
entering the match at twenty five k.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
We hit it, WW agreed to it. It's fine, we'll
prop it out. Yeah, yeah, slide in doesn't matter, and
probably we'll do Pat McAfee to step in step out.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
So true. Yeah, they need to do more bits. That
was a good bit.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It was a good bit. But let's talk about the
bits that the NFL season's happening right now, because we
are ten weeks in weird week of football. There's blowouts,
there's upsets. There was a lot of bad football. There
are some good football in between the middle of it.
But I mean, like primetime slots were both unbelievably bad

(20:44):
Raiders Broncos and Steelers Chargers. I literally fell asleep during
Steelers Chargers, woke up and nothing happened. It was a
weird week. But every single week we do two different
storylines to make sure we can look back on the
season that and really tell the full story of the league.
My first headline up for nomination this week, and I

(21:06):
think it's my only strong one to be completely honest,
and that's Dan Campbell shakes it up. Everyone's talking about
it as if this is something that could not have
been done. This is he pulled off the impossible jake,
and that's he is calling plays. No one knew he
could do that, and we could tell he was calling
plays because did you watch the Detroit game parts of it.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I also have a story life the Detroit game.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yes, So they were like speculating when it was so obvious, like,
I think Campbell's calling plays. I think he's doing it.
I'm not sure. Is it Morton up in the box
or is it Campbell? And then they flashed at Dan Campbell
on the sideline. He's wearing his glasses down like this.
A place said, if he's a character, figure it out
what to do. But Dan Camble shakes it up, starts

(21:52):
calling plays and then they go for five hundred and
forty six yards. So Dan Campbell being the football super genius,
which people sort of forget it is front and center
right now.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
He's done this. But am I wrong that he did
this with the offensive coordinator before, Ben Johnson?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yep, literally before. Yeah, people don't. People just don't comprehend
that he's an offensive guy because of his personality.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, I mean it's a good move. That is a
good storyline to watch. I do you think that what
would be the reason for that shift right now?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I mean they just lost a divisional game, so yeah,
they hit the panic mode.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Better way to ask this. I just realized it. I
just maybe hindsight, this is full hindsight. I guess I'm
a little surprised. I guess the question is why wouldn't
he have gone to this right away? And I know
that's hindsight that it went so good, But I just
remember us all off season being like, it's gonna be
fine because Campbell's gonna call plays, right. I think he's

(22:53):
too nice. I think they brought a new guy in
and he felt bad and not let him call.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think he's the fact that it took weeks is
because he's too nice. But I think he wants to
be the CEO, and I think he's better in that.
I think all head coaches are better when they can
do that, where it's like they can have their you know,
they can flip their headset to offense defense, talk to
both coordinators the entire time, manage the game. I guess
what Belichick did. That's what Andy Reid does most of

(23:19):
the time. Like that's what the best head coaches do.
But when you are a Gruden head coach, I think
he really started this team where it's just your glorified
offensive coordinator and then there's a defensive head coach as well,
it's just hard to get a feel for the game.
So I think Dan Campbell would like to be that
CEO floater on the sideline but clearly it wasn't working.
So now he's got a flex his brand a little

(23:41):
bit here, and he continues to say it wasn't me.
Is a group effort. Everybody contributed. I asked Morton the
entire time, is this a good idea? What's Morton gonna be?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Like?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Uh No, I would have called this after nine weeks
of mediocrity, there's no way. But everyone's talking about Dan
Campbell today crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
In my opinion, I agree that the surprise to it
has been that is good. I didn't have it on
my list because I have a different storyline from this game,
but that's true, everyone's been talking about it. I also,
I have someone said this today and then said something else.
I'm like, how do you not see that? Those contradicts
something like someone said, I don't think there's any like

(24:22):
waterproof teams in the NFL this year, Like everyone's looked
human at different points and then been like, is Detroit
for real? And it's like, yes, Detroit's very for real,
as real as anybody. Like It's like they've definitely looked
as solid as anyone else, especially in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
In my like, I think the most untouchable team so far.
And I think you're right. Every I think parody around
the league is at an all time time. But I
feel like the most untouchable team has been the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, and just everyone thinks they're their wheels are going
to fall off. I thought about having agree a storyline
about the Sea of like literally being that of like,
oh they're a wagon, Like they're really good, very good. Yeah.
If I had to pick a team that we've seen
do it, do it, it'd be this one. Or I mean,

(25:14):
the Eagles are going to figure it out and be
very good.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
But people are overreacting to everything. But yeah, yeah, the
Eagles are good. The Chiefs are very good. The Bills
are a good team.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
But the Bills, I referenced it what they have seen.
Then I couldn't think of what team I was referencing. Uh,
Bills not first in the AFC East though, So.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
No, Patriots are very good. Patriots just haven't played anybody.
Was the easiest in the league. Correct, Yeah, they play
the Buccaneers. Buccaneers are very beat up, but it was
still a good win. Yes, there they're good. Drake May
is good that coaching staffs top notch.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, if I may jump to it might as well.
I was gonna stick in that game, but I'll jump
to this one. My storyline nominee. Okay, you could say
Drake may MVP watched the Patriots are legit. I have
worded it this ways like I'm excited about my two
takeaways this week because I think both were gonna make
you laugh. First storyline, pitch, the Titans are abysmal in

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a week. Yeah, they had to buy. I watched this
game and I went, you motherfuckers could have You couldn't
get a Drake may for what's his name? Brabel in Tennessee. Yep, yeah,
like you got rid of him before you got cam Ward.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
They got rid of him after he said no, we
shouldn't trade aj Brown.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
It's unbelievable. Like I was just watching it and I'm like, no, wonder,
the Titans are going to be bad for all time
and the Patriots are like as much as it was
a joke that they didn't give Mayo more chance just
because it was like he that was what would have
happened if Rabel was there last year's my opinion is
the only thing else But that said, who knows, I mean,

(27:01):
Rabel's great, We knew that already. I don't mind that
they got Vrabel because it was like, it makes sense.
I just wish it could have been a different context
for Mayo. But yeah, like I just watched that and
I was like, yeah, Drake May's great, Like you couldn't
have gone verbel somebody with Derrick Henry and Tennessee. It's
just all I could think about.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I mean, my second storyline is about Rabel.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Too, so I hit it. It's just unbelievable. He does
feel like uh I was watching it. I'm like, I
hope people know he's like easily one of the best
coaches in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
He is of other everyone thinks so other than Pete Osmond,
but everyone, uh, Rabel is an outstanding coach. He's a
top five coach, no matter what I preface it with that. Now,
what I'm gonna say is this is a one man
race for Coach of the Year. Rabel's already won it.
Don't even yeah yet and yah anything else, but there's

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it's not because of what he's doing. Let me make
that very clear. There's a couple of things happening here.
A story that came out early. It must have been
early this week because it was three before the trade
deadline about the Titan situation. The Titans owner, I'm not
sure if you heard this, said she will not trade
with the Patriots because she didn't like the way it

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ended with Rabel.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
So that's insane. It's just like, no, Rabel was the issue.
I don't like the way he ended things, and I'm
gonna punish him. That's insane. That was leaked because somebody
wanted us to know that. That's one. Two, Rabel is
getting put on such a pedestal right now. Yeah, because
everyone won. All media members especially hate Bill Belichick because

(28:43):
of the years of.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Shit that he gave them.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, hate him. This is a media voted award, by
the way. And then two, the Patriots desperately want Rabel
to win Coach the Year because they just fired a
black guy without cause for Rabel.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, brother, So everything's culminating, all the storylines, all the
mischievous stuff is coming together along with a very good
head coach.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
So you can't say he doesn't deserve it. And it's like, oh,
there is no shot in hell that he does not
win Coach of the Year because of this.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
No, and also because the other guy who should be
the front runner. Why is Shane Steich in Baltimore? Why
can't they say his name on TV? Saying if only
we could figure out what Indianapolis was doing. By the way,
I mean no disrespect to this at all, because she
deserves a lot of credit. But it's like you would
think that Jim Mersey's daughter is coaching the team.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, Carly, she's on the sideline. She's got a headset on.
I think she is coaching the team.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
And by the way, she Carly should win an award.
I forget which awards they actively give. I don't know
if she's eligible for any of their categories.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
She's doing outstanding and she has been for years. But
you're completely right, it's Carly Ersa. The owner and the
Indianapolis coach are both serious.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's it's it's unbelievable. It's it's Daniel Jones, Carle. I'm
hearing a little bit about Gordon. Now. Everyone fucking loves
their tight end. Like I get it. But it's like
we can't say Shane Second's name. It's like when Ray
Paul took second in the Iowa Caucus and they could
remember who did it, Like it was like what do
you mean Michelle barberin took third, but I do.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Right say his name?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's right, yeah, and it's I just sorry it's old
Daily Show, but it's just like I just uh, Shane
Steichen is like really really good, but he's got no chance,
Like he's getting no credit for the cult's success.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
There's a few people like that, I almost like to
a lesser degree, but even still, I don't think anyone
gives Mike McDonald in Seattle, Yes, any credit, which that's
weird too, because no one's really getting credit there other
than Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I think, yeah, there's some guys. That's the best example
is that mine is not as good an example, but
even to some degree, you got it, Someone in Carolina
deserves some sort of like credit. And I think Dave
Canalis is one of them.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Like Canalis and their GM, I actually love both of them.
They finally took a while, but I think they've nailed that.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
We can be confused by what's happening there and still
think that they're overachieving, like that's that's worthy of celebration.
But I think you're right, that's a really good point
that it's like, that's such good points ech like, there's
a lot of fun reasons that's gonna happen. Okay, it is,
It's just it's done. Yes.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
By the way, we can also go a step further.
It's a true man race for MVP. Some people are
saying it's a three man race, but because uh Rabels
Coach of the Year, Drake May can't win MVP. Yeah,
so it's Stafford or it's Jonathan Taylor. Wow, there's nobody else.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
I haven't thought about that. Zach can be Baker.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
No, he's had too many bad games now. But unless
he goes on a historic aroun at the end of
the season, two people are honorable mentions. That's Mahomes, who's
off this week in Baker. And by the way, if
Mahomes comes out and pass for five hundred next week,
it does not become a three man raise. It becomes
a two man raise. Jonathan Taylor's out, That's how that's
gonna work.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
So who Taylor, Baker and who Stafford? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
the witch a fair.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
By the way, if the Seahawks lose to the Rams
next week, it'll be the first time in Matthew Stafford's
career that he has a career winning percentage. He finally
got to five hundred this week, which is awesome.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, MVP is interesting. We should talk about that sometimes
because like the names I hear people say for m VP,
I think we're just picking this year. Like it's like
everyone's like, Sir Drake May's gonna win MVP and he's
having a great year. Yeah he's he's not. He wouldn't
have sniffed this conversation a year ago. And all I
mean by that is like, he's not in the statistical

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conversation of MVP. But I just think, like the narrative
fits him. It's so weird, like people are a narrative
award though I know, I know that's true. I agree,
but it was a narrative award between like three of
the most historically great seasons of all time. Now it's
just a narrative award.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Right, And I mean, if Stafford wins it, this will
be such a fun season to look back on because
his arm did not work in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
That's who I'm rooting for. That sound fair. I mean,
if there's a way Jonathan Taylor could win it, that's
who I'm rooting for.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
But he's been great he's been good except for like
two weeks, which.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Maybe they'll give it to him to not recognize Shane Stecken. Maybe, yeah,
maybe somebody, anyone could be good if you're coaching a
player like that, right, just hand the ball off, run
the ball, mind, Zach. We're really focused on two games
this week, which I like. I'm going back to Commander's Lions. Okay,

(33:58):
my storyline of the week, Folks, bear with me, because
I promise I'm not getting that political is Donald Trump
cuts the greatest promo of all time in the booth
and Zach, I swear to the fucking god, I didn't
text it to you because I wanted to share it
on the show. When he started trying to read and

(34:20):
got boots so loud that cuts in the crab people
are flipping them off, I started searching Sean Michaels in
Montreal on here toube. I'm like, this isn't the greatest
heel promo I've seen, And listen, this isn't an endorsement
in any sense. I just think it's funny. He started reading.
He couldn't he's his eye state your name. He was rattled.

(34:41):
I was I was literally Claire was like, can we
change the chat on him? Like, no, I'm waiting for
him to drop the redskins, waiting for waiting. I was
waiting for that. I was waiting for him to just
make a decree that the stadium's now named after him.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Just in People are being very weird about that.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
By the way, yeah, this, how could they?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
How can they rename the RFK Stadium after a person?
That's insane?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's weird. Like, by the way, I think what you want.
This isn't the thing you should get the most worked
up about. But it was all I was just like,
this is an all time heel performance. I also think
something's up. This is the Trump storyline. I picked the
most attention to. Something's up. He called the NFL into
the White House earlier in the year. Uh huh, they
announced the draft, like we're all all things centered on DC.

(35:28):
He's he's demanded the name comeback. He's I think he's
going to resign from the White House so he can
be owner of the Commanders. Maybe I think he's fixated.
I think he became president so he could defy Jerry Jones.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
That would be funny. That's a that's a feud. I
would be very excited about.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Well that was the rumor for years. Was it like
Jerry didn't want him in the NFL spoleight wasn't big
enough for the two of them. So maybe he's like,
I give it all up to be in. But then
he cuts to the boomsack.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
What he will do. They'll call Washington America's by the way,
that'll be the first step.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
He calls Washington's America's team. I think he's gonna just
do the halftime show. Yeah, I think he's gonna come
out and just cut a promo again. By the way,
this was my other takeaway again, still still a great
heel performance. He goes into the booth. He's kind of
promo on his high school quarterback. He didn't have hit me.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
The ball, college quarterback.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
College quarterback. We didn't have a great team. A quarterback
had a weak arm.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's throw a ten years. If they threw
a ten yards would be a long pass.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
By the way, if it was if there was an
election to make someone a sports broadcaster, I'd vote for
Donald Trump every time he was.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
If there was any situation where it was so apparent
that he is so media trained, it was that He
was unbelievably good, to the point that there was a slight,
very slight lull, there was a pause, and he picked
it up. Yes, like instead of the other commentators, he
destroyed them.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
The touchdown clicked to him that they weren't talking enough
about the game as a big there's a big play
right here. Looking at whoa he does call it like
he's in the eighties, which I like, you know, look
at that hole like he like he's in on it.
But like it was insane and I was I was

(37:20):
literally like, this is the greatest teal problem of all time.
And I was just like, we're building to something. This
is a storyline. He's not done with the NFL. No, no, no, no, yes.
And by the way, it was because maybe it's just
this he was booed so feroptiously that like he a
has to come back to a game because he won't

(37:42):
let it lie there. So he's gonna come back. And
I want just like the most obnoxious funnel noise in
of just like a chant like trump Trump Trump, but
deck this was what I was gonna say my storyline.
I was it was such a good problem. Well, I
was like I was waiting for it I was like
waiting for Georgia on my mind to play, and then

(38:04):
a hand shoots up from the fifty yard thig. Oh
my god, my god, it's Jimmy Carter. He rips himself
out of the crowd. Yeah, confronts him.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I don't even know why I didn't write this down.
Trump cutting a promo at an NFL game. It has
to be the headline.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
It was insane. It was also whatever you think of it,
hopefully we can all laugh and like foo, it's so
hard that you can't like he was supposed to say,
I President Donald J. Trump, and he said, I state
your name. Rattle the blues, gut, dude. They cut to

(38:43):
the crowd. He's like, thanks everybody, the cut fingers. It
was perfect.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
It was it's Haul Cogan on the Netflix on raw thing.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Can't figure out why people have I mentioned my alcohol
brand if I don't like me? Yeah, he did one
of these. He was startled. It was just that was
a good storyline for me. But it was like it
was so electric that I was like, looking up, who's
your daddy Montreal? I was like, I'm in dude, So

(39:13):
I think.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, So I think Trump cuts a heel promo has
to be one.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, and I think Rabel destined for Coach of the year.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
The storyline is it, uh, Campbell shakes it up because people,
I think it's notable that Rabel is for sure coach
of the year. I don't know if that's a storyline
this week.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
It's just so you're right, we're gonna talk more about Campbell.
I agree, I'll do that. I like that. I like that.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I just want we need to talk about November eleventh
show is not just the reck of the edem in
Fitzgerald mourning what was fifty years ago. We also just
got to make it known like this, we knew on
this day that Rabel's coach of the year. There's no
other scenario. There's nothing else that.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Any games we didn't talk about out it all. Yeah, the
primetime games are bad. We're recording this as the Packer
game begins. But the roller coaster that is Carolina continues.
They've lost to the Saints, like what's happening? Jetson Browns
have the best worst game of all.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Time right in on Nick mann goold day. Yeah, I
was crazy, there is Yeah. I mean Seahawks robbed four
scorers at the end of the first quarter.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, I think Bears fans things they're alive, which is weird.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Technically they are, I think.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I mean, they're technically alive, but like, are we like hyped?
I think they think it's all coming together.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
We'll see what happens on Monday Night football if Packers lose.
Why wouldn't you be hyped if you're the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I mean that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I guess they're a lot. I hate to say it,
they are.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
This is what I'm getting at. I just think, like,
I guess I'm really just thinking about the recent schedule.
Like they are alive and they won the game, so
this is what it is. But they beat the Giants, yeah,
the inter Giants. They beat the Bengals in a shootout.
They got whooked by the Ravens, and they beat the Saints, like,
and they beat the Raiders and Commanders like they've they've

(41:22):
beat the bad teams, right, But they're like, who can
deny us.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
If you get a coach player and you celebrate thought.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yes, and like, I think there's some cause for celebration.
But I just think they're like, we're here, baby, I
was here in like fans be like why isn't people
talking about Kleb for MVP.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I can tell you, yeah, we should, we should talk
about it. Let's let's put them up there. Let's really
disgust it because I would love to.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, it's just like weird, Like it's like I'm not
that into it. It's uh, but it's interesting, dude. I
to me, the game I enjoyed the most was for sure,
uh Buccaneers and and Pats. But yeah, like alarmingly so.
But as we talked about before the show, if you're
a fan of college football future weeks, baby, stay tuned,

(42:10):
we're in. The Indiana game was the best football all weekend.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
That was insane, that was crazy. The catch, the touchdown
catch was stupid. Doesn't even.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Gus Johnson say something? Can I say something controversial? Sure?
He was too surprised.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
He is, He's never the perfect about Johnson.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I don't want I don't want to think. I don't
want people to think I'm not a gut shots at fit. However,
m hm, he was. He was too surprised. His was
a bouts never seen anything like it. It was one
of two options, Gus, and it was pretty goddamn close
as fun as how you cut it, just like Gus

(42:58):
like beats himself into a cool where I think that
you can imagine Gus Johnson as a kid. He comes down,
Imagine he comes down the stairs. It's Christmas Eve. Well,
there's no way there's presence out here. There's just no
way there were presents here last year. There's no way
he didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Again he still does that. He's always surprised, he's excited
about it.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
He gave me a bike, the one thing I asked for. Like,
he's just like so jazzed.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Gus Johnson is a half glass empty type of guy,
but I do like that he celebrates the victory afterwards.
He's never is a believer.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
No, but like you present so sure, he's so Gus
Johnson's loves to speak wrong. No one likes being wrong
more than Gus Johnson.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
For such a positive person, like just joyful energy. He
is so negative. He never believes it happened. He always
wants prove. Gus john it's a skeptic. Yeah, yeah, that's
people don't talk about that narrative with him.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
But it's just like it's unbelievable because I like this
far Like Gus Jotson makes every game bigger, that's fun.
This was one of the first moments where I was like, Gus,
I get it. It's a huge catch, it's a big deal.
He's just like, can you believe it happened? I do.
I saw it?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Is he again? I also like Gus Johnson. Yeah, but
but is he getting into Dicky V territory?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Oh? I don't know. I saw Dicky V the other day.
I was like, my boy, go home, relax a little bit,
some time off.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
He's done enough. This is when you can enjoy the
rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Okay, I'm sorry, I do need to investigate a little more.
What do you mean by Dicky P territory? Uh?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Untolerable?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Oh okay, okay. I was like, you could mean some
of the many things.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
That's true, over the top for the sake of being
over the top.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
No, I don't think he's like Boger, you know. I
don't think he's like like you're a meme, you know.
I think the thing about Gus Johnson that has made
him last as long as he is genuine, I think
he is that hYP Okay. I hope. So I here's
where Gus Johnson maybe would get to that point. I

(45:29):
sincerely think he would have reacted that way if that
game was He's Illinois versus Western Michigan. Like, I don't
know if the stakes matter to him.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
It does not. That's why he always puts over his game,
which I enjoy.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I like it, But is that genuine? I don't know. Yeah,
Gus Johnson should cover every Seahawks game though, yes, so
we could really revel in it. Let me enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, Jackson Smith and Jig was probably the best league receiver.
But I can't watch it.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Let's send on this. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna
do this off the toime my head. I'm gonna give
you five broadcasters. Okay, you're gonna sign them teams for
the rest of the year. Okay, great, Okay, the pick
ones that I think we like, perfect, Okay, if you
we'll start with the one, we'll talk. If you had

(46:22):
to give Gus Johnson the team one NFL team he
calls all their games the rest of the year, who
is it?

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I think it's the Panthers because.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Then yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, great pick. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
We don't know what's gonna happen, but he either does
he he doesn't even believe it when it's happening, but
it's gonna be over the top when Rico Daubdle falls
into the end zone for a seven to sixth victory,
which is great, yeah or six. I like Kirk, and
I think a lot of people dislike him. By the way,

(46:53):
people are very negative about l Michael's right now. They
need to not get off.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Oh he's coming up, don't worry. Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I like Al. Sorry, sorry, he's old.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Good God, and get him a different partner, dude.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, that's fine too, Kirk. Let's give him. I'll give
him the Bears because they just feel like a college
team anyway. And then he doesn't sugarcoat the ship. He
will say it like it is about calic ethic.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
That's that's so true. Okay, Al Michaels, let's put.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Bob giggilative about Al in my mind. Do we put
him back in Cincinnati where he can just reminisce about
the old days, because that's kind of what he wants to.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Do anyway, or I do think al Michael's to the
Rams makes sense for that reason. He's just reminiscing about
terrible lions gapes. True.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
True, Yeah, that's true. Al has stories about the olden case.
So who's the funniest option. It probably is the Rams
for that. Huh, we'll do We'll do that. We'll do
the Rams, all right?

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Two left? Okay, I know my stinger, So who do
I do before that? Let's do? Oh? I thought I
had a good one. I don't know. Oh, Kevin Harlan.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Oh Man, every game ever, Packers please because I, yeah,
for sure watch it. Luke and I have had this
conversation that he needs to commentate every game ever.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I want him on the Colts. Make me believe, make
us all believers. He will.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah, he'll make a believer out of anybody about anything.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Last one I also was sorry, the funnier question is
Donald Trump. It's the Commanders, so that will We'll be okay,
six option after the President?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Uh is?

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I know the answers everyone, but you got to pick
one team the rest of the way. John Boyn, John Bruden.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Oh god, Raiders is interesting.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Would he just be pitching for himself to get keys
to the building again the entire time, which probably would happen.
I would do And because there is a beef between them,
but also a lot of stories between them.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
How do the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
There is a beef between Andy Reid and Rude, and
I think it would show itself many times.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
But he couldn't help waxing poetic about Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Right, Mahomes and Kelsey. I mean they're just Hollywood's team
at this point too. And he's he would he would
love it, and he would Yeah, he would love the
defensive players too, loves Leoshanel.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I'll end on this, barstool if you're listening, do a series, Hey,
do a series where he just calls over place of
the week. You should actually do that. That's a good idea. Yeah,
this is what I want, bar stool a series. He
goes back, comments over the Will Levis run. Yeah, that's

(50:11):
just like I was like, who's the worst quarterback? He
could just like, you must talk to me about Will Levis.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I think he liked Will Levis too, so that would
be very interesting. Yeah, but I like go back and
watch old Daniel Jones shit, old Sam Darnold shit. That
would be fun too.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
If if it wasn't the Chiefs, I think that's the
right pick. I would have done the Buccaneers.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Sure, which yeah, similar reasons, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, and talk about Baker. Yeah, I love this.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Kidd Green's the best. I still watch his videos every week.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
He'd kill a nelevant just for a taste of ivory.
The craziest shit you've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yeah, he's a little bit like Bill Walton in that
way where it's like it's not really related. He just
throws something out there. But then he has more passion
than Bill Walton.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Man, Now, I gotta watch Bill all the clips. That's good.
Let's end the show so I can watch that. I
need to go watch man. Do you think those clips
of him calling the Badgers game is still out there?
He's doing bench reps. Yeah, talking about the Winter Solstice.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Winter Solstice, he commentated old Rockets games with yel Ming.
He talked about the export of rice from China that year. Yeah,
he had the numbers too, he did his research. Yeah,
a lot of Bill Walton. He's the best. He's absolutely
the best. But yeah, we will go out on that.
Go pour one out for the Edmond Fitzgerald, Gordon Lightfoot

(51:44):
and the twenty nine people aboard. Gail's November did come early.
We'll be back next week. Goodbye. The Sport's all safe day,

(52:05):
don't size Sports Inside, fuck ya,