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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Today.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I want to welcome Ola Walney. For fifteen years, she
has held various operational, engineering and business positions in the
oil and gas industry, and from a very young age
she was drawn to sacred wisdom, astrology and mysticism. In
twenty seventeen, she was led to a job in the

(01:01):
Arctic Circle, which got her involved with local shamans and healers,
who passed their teachings to her and set her on
her path to help others reclaim their power and sovereignty.
Oh welcome, How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Hi, Chris? Very well? Welcome to everybody. I'm doing really well.
It's been a bit of summer in the Arctic as well,
so as you can see, you know, we get that too,
so yeah can complaint excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Thank you so much for coming on. I've really been
looking forward to getting your perspectives into not only the
nature of our human experience, but what may be occurring
on a metaphysical level during this era of human history.
And you've studied gnostic texts, the Vedas and numa Alish

(01:53):
emerald tablets, the Kabbala, and you've also had very profound
spiritual experiences that have led you to your understandings. So
we've got a lot to get to. But before we do,
this is your first time on, let the audience know
a little more about yourself and what led you down
your path.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh gosh, starting from the boring stuff, So a little
bit about myself. What people may be a little bit
surprised by is that my background, my sort of matrix,
you know, system corporate background is oil and gas. So
I worked for oh gosh, about twelve thirteen years in

(02:34):
oil and gas. I'm an oil and gas engineered by background,
So I worked a little bit offer mostly on shore,
so very much that kind of logical brain mind, you know,
someone who kind of uses a lot of critical thinking, scrutiny, etc.
So well, I'm no longer associated with that path, but

(02:59):
I remained within the energy business as you as you
as you can imagine, right, but a little bit on
a different side. Uh So, so I I I probably
by training and by nature I I tend to apply
that kind of way of analyzing thinking to anything that

(03:20):
I that I look into. Having said that, I've noticed,
I've learned and I've very much benefited from absolutely integrating
the very much intuitive, more sort of feminine way of
perhaps understanding things or or looking into things and and

(03:41):
and putting the dots together. So so that's pretty much
my background. I worked in the corporate environment for a
very very long time. Uh probably around you know, the
plandemic time was when I I've decided or perhaps there
was no other Hayden to come out of the closet
with with the the these kind of things that we

(04:02):
we will be talking about today. So so yeah, so
the the the sort of system path is pretty much
close for me. It is very much close for me,
and I've I've started walking to words towards where where
my where my sort of soul has been very much
calling me towards I I live in the Arctic, in Norway,

(04:23):
in the in the north, in the very north of Norway,
very very far from also so so right now we
get the polar day here, we get we get a
full nice Arctic summer. So I've been also working with
bringing people here for the past year and a half,
bringing people here to experience this region, very very special energy,

(04:47):
very special experiences. This is definitely a place that has
transformed me inside out. It has prepared me for where
I am right now, even though I didn't know at
the time. So so you know, there is no describing
this to be. To be absolutely honest, I've been a
little bit around the world. I've been to places that
are considered sacred or places that are considered of high

(05:12):
energy or special energy, and quite frankly, I haven't really
experienced that in many of those places. But the the
type of energy, the type of spiritual context that you
might experience here in this region where where I am,

(05:33):
is absolutely second to none. And and I'm speaking from
my personal experience, but not only I'm speaking from experience
of people who have been here, and you know, it
changed their lives and some of them have become so
hooked that they even moved started to move it to
move here to this region. So that's absolutely amazing. So

(05:54):
this is the sort of these are the things that
I that I've moved into.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And you know, wonderful, great introduction. The more I look
into metaphysical esoteric topics, the more I realize, the less
I really know when it comes to a larger scale
of understanding, because the more I learn, it opens up
new pathways and new doors and new possibilities. And I'd

(06:21):
like to start with your understanding of our human experience,
why we're here, what we are, and our purposes. And
I've come to the understanding that each and every one
of us does have a soul mission here, and there
is also a matrix construct that serves many purposes, but

(06:44):
it also has effects on us on our daily basis,
like making us forget our mission, making us forget where
we come from. Having these very strong dualities light and dark,
and then we go into possibilities of reincarnation, arconic forces

(07:06):
that may whisper in our ears at times and try
to steer the collective in certain ways. And then of
course the time period that we're in now that to
me seems like a very special time. There's very interesting
things that we're witnessing and folding. So let's start there.
It's a big question, but what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh I got in the massive, massive question.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I can probably be Hey, tomorrow, we'll take our time
with it, we'll dissect it.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
So so one more thing that I probably ought to
add about about my path and where I where I
came from, and sort of how did I even find
myself speaking about these topics, is that, you know, for
my whole life, it's been over forty years, I've been very,
very drawn to astrology. And you know, I know that

(08:03):
there are negative connotations and and and a lot of
people get turned off. But please bear with me because,
like I say, you know, by background, I'm an engineer,
so I am very much no bullshit, no nonsense. So
so when I took this path, I wasn't really taking
taking it in this kind of you know, unicorns and

(08:25):
rainbow kind of approach. I studied ancient texts as you
as you mentioned, in the context of looking for parallels,
looking specifically for some kind of information about the zodiac,
and kiss what surprise, surprise, it is everywhere. It is
everywhere for those with the eyes to see and ears

(08:46):
to hear. The information is everywhe It is in the
Parmitic text, it is in the Gnostic text, it is
in the Vedic text and Elisha, the Sumerian creation myth,
it is in every single mythogy of literally every culture.
So whether that's Norse mythology, which is very obviously very
much I like to call upon Norse mythology a lot,

(09:09):
because that's that's where I that's where I happen to
to to live right now. But but not only and
and when you study all these accounts, you see a
very clear correlation between all of these stories, all of
these accounts and and and information specifically pointing and describing

(09:34):
some kind of mechanism. We call it the zodiac, right,
we call it an astrology, numerology being just the ways
of interpretation of this mechanism, you see. Because this is
this is where I would like to go a little
bit deeper into. This is what I've discovered based on
these texts. And of course they have been tampered with,

(09:55):
they have been a lot of them, you know, there's
been any intervention, especially from the patriarchal agenda, to hide
certain things. Mythology is very it's critical. Mythology has been
also unfortunately well, very often inverted, very often tampered with,
and we cannot find the original or we cannot we

(10:17):
cannot see the original versions to be fully available right
now in the current times. However, we know, you know,
rule of thumbs, sort of switch everything by one hundred
and eighty degrees and you might get a little bit
of truth there. So, having analyze these texts, there is
a very very clear, undeniable picture that seems to emerge,

(10:43):
which is the Earth, whatever it is, whatever the shape,
whatever the size, the Earth seems to have been at
some point in time. And of course we can call
upon Sitching, we can call upon the Vedas right, and
we can sort of draw a bit of a timeline
here the Earth has been invaded by another race or races.

(11:07):
I would I would argue that it's obviously multiple, it's
not it's not one race. These are the ones that
in in the Sumerian context get called anunaki or you know,
the gods or the arcons of the Gnostic texts. These
are the ones present in every mythology. So we have obviously,

(11:28):
for example, the Viking or the Norse mythology we have
the the gods of the of the Norse mythology, and
and very very interesting that the pantheon of these gods
corresponds very very nicely to the Roman mythology, to the
Greek mythology, and if you look into into the Sumerian

(11:51):
gods UH, then there is obviously a parallel as well.
So clearly there's been presence of some other civilization here
that came with pretty malevolent intentions, intentions, and they have
created certain structure, very advanced technology, very advanced use of

(12:14):
artificial intelligence, something that we are only beginning to screate
the surface. We are in our human understanding, we have
no idea of what they have been using. We're talking
about technology used tens of thousands years ago that obviously
proceed preceded us by thousands, if not you know, one
hundred thousands, millions of millions of years, who knows. So so,

(12:38):
what we see in the ancient texts and what we
see and what we hear being referred to as the
firmanent as the uh, the sort of construct above, and
the gods seemed to be literally the very works of
the ones who once upon a time came here. They

(13:02):
enslaved the ones that they met here, and of course
a lot of those stories also echoed in the Sumerian tablets,
So that interpretation is even that goes even even a
little bit further. So called creator gods, right, the ones
that that later call themselves creators as if they were

(13:25):
the ones who created human race. That is absolutely incorrect,
That is absolutely untrue. Of course, you would have the
god usurpers, you know, the the the race that that
that wants to assert their dominance here changing the history, right,
I mean, we we know, we know that history has
been changed, and we've been like about pretty much everything.

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So so the narrative has been changed. The narrative has
been developed in a way that serves the victor, not
the not the not the oppressed, the humanity.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Well, I want us to explore that for a minute,
if we can. You said that the Anunaki, although we
hear it through many other researchers and ancient texts, that
it's interpreted that they tinkered with some Hamanid DNA and
maybe combined it with extraterrestrial or whatever kind of DNA

(14:21):
that they contain, and that's where humanity comes from. But
you're saying that's a deception.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I think that would happen. Here is a lot of
experimentation with human DNA and with DNA of other species.
So I believe that, you know, we have a we're
dealing with a mixture of different stories, some of them
referring to yeah, probably you know, some kind of slave

(14:51):
race being developed for the very purpose of serving those gods,
those arcons, right, or perhaps fulfilling very specific simple tasks. However,
what they have absolutely erased in their stories is the
fact that when they came here, this place wasn't empty.

(15:12):
This place was already inhabited and and and literally if
we if we look into the galactic history, it seems
that there's been certain wars and conflicts that were happening
before anything even happened on Earth. And that's what we
find in mythology. This is where we this is where
we find, you know, the myths of everything that's happening

(15:35):
in the sky. So so for example, constellations that are
depicting a warrior shooting at the maidens, right, and Pleiades
being involved, the constellation of Vega Lira, right, all of
these constellations, the Great Bah, so the Big Dipper or

(15:59):
the little dipper, depending how you how you call them
all these stories, you know, these are not These are
not fairy tales. These are not fables that happen to
be the same across different cultural geographies. These are remnants
of some kind of history that people try to that
obviously oral tradition try to preserve. And if we are

(16:24):
able to investigate a little bit into these stories, but
perhaps switch of the mind, because you see what I
what I have noticed, and probably you you you know
that yourself right that there's a lot of so called
scholars into this topic around the world, and and they
and they come up with all sorts of interpretations, and

(16:44):
they write books about it. But if they could switch
off that that you know, mind for a minute, they
could they could just possibly find the answers that they
are looking for, because these answers are already there. These
answers uh colded into fairy tales, into mythology, They are

(17:05):
colded into a lot of ancient texts that the problem
is we or you know, a lot of people have
been failing to interpret. So the story is pretty much
the story is pretty much there. And if you know
the rule of thumb, which is everything in this in
this world is pretty much inverted. Right, So so the

(17:26):
hero or or the one who's the who's the oppressor,
becomes the hero, right and and and the oppressed ones
become the victims become become the the one that needs
to be in in in some way persecuted. Well, that's
the that's the world that we I think everybody knows,

(17:47):
that's the world that we have come to live in.
So so in that context, absolutely, Uh, did they create
the human the current human race? I am I'm gonna
strongly disagree that. No, they have not. Have they been
experimenting and doing all sorts of DNA uh interventions? Absolutely yes,

(18:09):
have they been. Have they done this to us? Of course?
I mean look at our DNA. How many strands of
DNA do we have, which is called junk and the
only active ones are two two strands?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I mean that that doesn't sound like a regular nature
kind of evolution, right that that sounds like somebody tempered
with with the code. So obviously our DNA have been disabled,
majority of our DNA has been disabled. Why what's in

(18:40):
that DNA that was so inconvenient threatening that had to
be put offline? And and you know what what what
what we are left with is literally the kind of
basic function of survival biology, et cetera, et cetera. Right,
and yet and yet you see this is this is
why we pissed them off so much, because even though

(19:03):
they switched off pretty much everything to a point of
being able to even maintain the system sort of online. Right,
and we still harry that spark within us that sooner
or last, we're starting to put everything together, put the
picture together.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
So you said that these beings were able to somehow
place the entire planet under this advanced technological matrix system.
If we look back through a lot of these ancient texts,
it would seem like humanity has been reset multiple times.

(19:45):
Much of the reasonings that are mentioned in some of
these texts, or that the gods were not happy with
humanity or the way that humanity was going, so they
decided to do a reset multiple times.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Absolutely, But you know, you have to ask yourself what
kind of god? I mean, give me a definition of
a god? Right, Because a lot of people like the
word god and they use it thinking that the definition
is very benevolent. It's this kind of all loving, benevolent being, right,
But is that right? I mean, look at the god

(20:22):
of the Old Testament. That's that's got nothing to do
with benevolence. That is a psychopath. That is a jealous
psychopath who who loves sacrifices made of what animals and humans? Yeah,
when you look into the cultures South America, right, and
we and we find out the Aztecs or they were

(20:44):
they were doing, you know they were primitive because they
were doing sacrifices with humans or with maidens, with women, right, sacrifices,
human sacrifices. They were primitive. You have to ask yourself,
why was it their idea or was it the expectation
of the of the gods? Who are the gods? What
kind of rays? Right? Otherwise known by the reptilians, by

(21:08):
the draco right by the Anunaki is just it's it's
a term that comes from specifically that geography and the
language used there, which just means as simple as anunaki,
the ones who came from above down onto the earth.
So it is not the name of a race. It
is a name of basically what happened. Right. So, so

(21:29):
if we call them are cons if we call them anunaki,
if we call them the reptilians Draco. However, we want
to call them and mind you ar cons right. The
word ARCon in Greek translates into the lord, the lord ruler.
And how is the Bible written? Right? The Lord said this?

(21:50):
The Lord said that? Right? So so so who are
we referring to? Who are we really referring to? We're
referring exactly to them, and and and they're not they're
not our friends. Of course, there were resets, because at
some point people would catch on right, people would get

(22:10):
to a point where there was a danger. There was
a danger to those in power, specifically in the ancient text,
and you can you can trace it back into the Riguerta,
which is the oldest the oldest one, so sort of
around twelve thousand years ago, around sort of ten thousand BC.
You can see that in Anima Elish as well. So

(22:31):
the creation myths are very often the same in the
Norse mythology, are talking about a certain time when this
firmanent the dome has been put in place, the moon
shows up. If you look into the Anoma Elish, of course,

(22:53):
there's this conflict between Tiamat and Marduk, and in the
outcome of that conflict. He fashions a new version of
the sky. He fashions a new version of sort of reality.
What does that mean? What does that mean? What does

(23:13):
it mean the Hermetic text when the Hermetic texts so
openly and beautifully describe that atom, which is their name,
for the for them, for the God, for the creator, Atum,
created the planets, created the moon, and they were in
they were corresponding to the to to certain attributes of

(23:38):
the gods. What does that mean? It means that this construct,
this construct, again very advanced technology, is operating based on
the frequency. This is frequency controlled construct, whereby the the
very energetic nature of the planets, of the stars out

(23:59):
there has been tampered with. There's been like a lens
put up above us, otherwise called as a firmanent right,
otherwise known as a firmanent something has been put above
us to literally put us in a quarantine here on Earth.
It's in a way, it kind of disconnected us from

(24:19):
that cosmic context. It keeps us right and the moon
very very important, very important moment when the moon shows up,
because moon shows up with a mission, right, The moon
is not a natural satellite. The moon shows up in
the sky, so the moon is placed into the sky

(24:40):
around ten thousand VC with a job, and that is
frequency control of this realm. So these planets plus the moon,
they end up sort of working as a system based
on frequent the control. And you see this is this

(25:02):
is the reason why I mentioned I used to study
astrology in numerology, but not as a some kind of
entertainment side you know, side hustle, but specifically because this
is part of this construct. This is very much part
of the construct you've mentioned in the introduction that we
have this free will and we can just you know,
live out our life according to our admission. Do we

(25:24):
have a free will? You know? Because somehow looking into
astrology and numerology too much in our life is predictable
as in as in predictive astrology and numerology. From whatever geography,
the Chinese, the Greek, whatever you use, they have been

(25:47):
spot on for sort of you know, take a random
person and and just just run their code. Why why
is it like that? Well, I just kind of it
just slipped my mouth literally now, because there is a cult.
There is a cult when we incarnate here and you know,
hermetic texts talk about it that this firmanent creates a

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barrier so that a human, the person who lives here
will be incarnating, will be tossed between heaven and Earth indefinitely.
What does that mean. It means there's a mechanism in
place which after death sort of captures the soul and

(26:31):
it's like a recycling factory, you know, it sends it
back down. So you effectively you cannot escape this realm.
You cannot escape, You cannot leave and go wherever you
want to go. You you are in an artificial way
controlled after death and after birth as well, so that

(26:54):
this this plane becomes like a it's like a recycling
fact of souls. Why because nothing about this realm, nothing
about this prison that they created, the race is created
is obviously for our benefits. This is an energy harvesting machine.

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So so literally, you know what is the fall of consciousness?
The fall of consciousness is the fact that after so
many incarnations, right, so many times that the human was
tossed up and down. Guess what they as you mentioned before,
they go through that process of wiping out their memory,
and they come back here and they get traumatized. Their

(27:39):
soul gets shattered into even more pieces. They get traumatized
their life is pretty much their their faith, as they say,
is predetermined. Okay, and the life I mean, look at
look at most of most of us, right, I mean, okay,
we can say that we thrive this and that, but
majority of the world, majority of the world, people are struggling.

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Does anybody wants to be struggling? No, people want to
live a happy, peaceful life. But that's not the case.
Why Well, because we have a gang of psychopaths above us,
those people from those those those beings from those races. No,
not not here, not here. They're not interested in being here.
They used to be in the past. This is why
we had so many accounts of extraterrestrial presence in the past.

(28:26):
But in the current times we have more of the
middlemen put in place. Right. So the people on top
of the people whose names we never hear on TV, right,
they are the ones who are the brokers, right, who
would have been the brokers for the last sort of
several thousands of years. So this is this is the
picture that we are dealing with.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
The way you were describing the planets and the stars
and the moon sounded like a circuit board that has
all these energetic connections and from what you describe, the
moon is connected to our reincarnation cycle? Is that right?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes, the moon is connected to that in a sense
that you know, based on if we look into mythology,
if we look into what we can extract from fairy
tales and from legends, from the oral tradition of a
lot of cultures, a lot of cultures in their original

(29:28):
original teachings, Native American, even the so many people of
the north here where I am, in their original teachings,
all of them they guard against the moon. The sun
is good, the sun is benevolent and minds you never masculine.
The sun in the original tradition is always feminine. The
moon is never feminine, and the moon is never positive.

(29:51):
So these people, these traditions try to tell us something
about something negative about the moon. And you know, even
where I come from, right from my tradition is obviously
Eastern European. In our tradition, we say that the moon
like avoid the full moon, don't go out, don't sort

(30:13):
of interact, don't look too much at the full moon
because the moon steals the soul. We even have a
legend where I come from, we have a legend for
anybody watching or maybe you know Polish speakers Janvardovski, the
legend of Janvardovski, the man who loses his soul and
a woman tells him, if you want to regain your soul,

(30:35):
you need journey to the moon. Obviously not physically, but
there is a certain al chemical sort of context there.
But so the moon always always negative. The moon is
linked to the process of harvesting the soul because based
on these based on the stories that I've sort of

(30:55):
got to and put that together, the moon is literally
the the white light the end of the tunnel that
you see when you die. So you're being sort of cold, right,
you've been, you've been in a way you sort of
gravitate towards the moon because the moon specifically is part

(31:17):
of that recycling of the soul system. So so the
moon is going to be taking a very active part
in that whole process of after death, you know, sort
of get the soul in, flip it, send it back right.

(31:39):
So so that's that's what seems to be one of
the main roles of the moon, not the only one.
Major major frequency control upon our final gland and upon
our energy centers is stayed.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
From being from the moon now, from what you said
so far, it seems like what we're experiencing is rather
hopeless when it comes to anything outside of this reality.
If we are constantly recycled into this, is there something
outside that we would understand as source or God? Is

(32:15):
there a home for our souls? Is what we're experiencing
on some level being allowed?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah? Absolutely, And I know that so far everything sounds
pretty gloomy, but hopefully there will be time to to
sort of get to the end of the world, which
is what we need, and that is the positive. That
is the positive, and the hopefully something that gives gives

(32:43):
gives people hope and something to look forward to. But absolutely,
in the context of of what you what you've asked.
So when you look back, when you look into every
create ancient texts, even including the Bible, including the cabalistic

(33:04):
creation texts, which have been tampered with. I cannot stress
that enough. They've been tampered with because in patriarchy and
those creator gods that have called themselves creator gods males, right,
there's been a switchover from creation being feminine, which it

(33:25):
still is because I mean, look at women who gives
birth right, I mean who gives birth. But we somehow,
we somehow took the pain on the trick of being told,
being convinced that creation is masculine. And if you look
into those ancient texts, if you look to the original
versions of the ancient texts, and if you understand the

(33:49):
all chemical interpretation of those texts, creation original creation is feminine.
So there is a there is a very beautiful story
of a I don't want to call it female, because
we're not looking for personification of anything here. We're talking

(34:09):
about certain very loving, very benevolent, beautiful creative force. If that,
if that helps I myself. You know, whether we call
it source however we want to call it, I don't
really care. But you know, we are part of it,
as in we are the spark of that loving creation.

(34:30):
And the problem why these races or even you know
that they've done what they've done here on earth, is
because they have totally disconnected, they've disconnected themselves from that
creative force. The degeneration of that has that has been

(34:53):
that degeneration on a sort of emotional level, spiritual level
in those in those races has been so far advanced
that they have lost that connection. And there's kind of
no way back, you know, in a way, there is
no way back. It's so I would say, I would say,

(35:14):
you know, don't let's not look for something outside of us,
as in, there must be an external god, there must
be an external source that's going to save us, or
you know, something to look up to, because because mind you,
we are very very programmed into believing that's something wholly,
something sacred is outside of us. And and there is

(35:36):
a personification into a masculine figure, right, So so so
what we tend to do. Okay, if it's not masculine,
that's then let's replace it with a feminine So so
let's you know that then let let's let let's let's
call it a mamba. Yeah, a loving mother. But how
about we transcend that as well and and sort of
look at it in a in a more of a

(35:57):
context that perhaps this universe is just built with the
highest vibration of creation. Women are fragments, literally, right, Females
are fragments of that, so that they could bring more
of that loving vibration into any world. They are the
ones who are burving universes. Right, that's just our function,

(36:21):
that's how we this is, you know this is This
is not a competition, this is just how we are constructed.
So so perhaps it's enough to look to ourselves, to
remember our own nature, to remember that we are those
seeds of something much much bigger, and that power that
we hold within us, all of us humans. You know,

(36:44):
it has been we have been under an illusion that
led us to forget this power. So so I would
I would probably I would probably argue for or or
perhaps that that would be. That would be my view,
my view of things. Is it hopeless? Is the situation hopeless?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Never?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Never, It's never been It's never been hopeless, and it
has never been more hopeful than now. And the reason
for that is precisely because what's prophesied for the times now,
so called the end of the world, is literally upon us.
And you know, how do we know that. We know

(37:30):
that through interpretation of the Apocalypse, the apocalyptic science. We
know that through the interpretation of Ragnarok, Ragnarok the Norse mythology,
end of the world. Right, So, every culture, again, every
geography has some kind of myths or prophecy that's talking
about something in the future. But the most promising thing

(37:53):
is that we are able to put a timeline on it.
How well, few things in the apocalypse specifically, there's a
very concrete celestial event described a woman clothed in the
sun with the.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Crown of the alignment of twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Was it absolutely, absolutely, that's the alignment of twenty seventeen
in autumn. So this sign in the Apocalypse that describes
the beginning of this event has already happened, so tick
right and Vatica even confirmed it. But then on top
of that, you know, if that's not good enough, Cathers

(38:42):
they have their prophecies which talks specifically about a window,
a window of eight years between and if you do
the math on that prophecy, the window is from twenty
seventeen to twenty twenty five when certain change. This is
the sort of energy window that certain things will be

(39:03):
happening here on Earth that will sort of facilitate and
enable a massive transformation here on Earth. And if you
look to Ragnarok, and if you look to what starts Ragnarok,
if you look to to the But again, we if
we try to interpret that only by you know, using

(39:26):
the mind and the sort of logic, that's gonna be
a failure. That's gonna be a massive failure, and and
and the whole story of the end of the world
becomes just like a like a tale. You know. But
but do do we really believe that these people back then,
you know, had nothing better to do but just come
up with those tales. And everybody in different geography is

(39:46):
coming up with the same tale. It's just too much
of a coincidence. So so so again, looking into into
the Norse mythology, we get even a little bit more
information which is kind of directly confirming what the apocalypse
is saying. The woman in the sky is taking the
moon under her feet. The moon has been ruling for

(40:11):
all these thousands of years. Suddenly it's at the feet.
Of course, it is in the celestial event as in
moon leaving constellation Virgo. So it is at her feet.
But there is a deeper meaning, because as above so below,
so there's a deeper meaning, deeper or chemical meaning of
that specific situation, which again Ragnarok, what Ragnarok says that Ragnarok,

(40:38):
that the story of Ragnarok. It says that Ragnaro commences
when Uros, when the when the snake biting its own tail,
finally bites through what is the what is the ring?
What is this? You know? What? What what is that
snake representing snake biting its own tail? You know, things

(40:59):
going over and over and forever and forever. Somesada, the
will of some soada, the reincarnation forever, over and over,
or the zodiac circle, right, Zodiacababa's the twelve, not the thirteen,
not the thirteen, the feminine fourteen, but the twelve. So
that at Ragnarok breaks, What does that mean? Well, that's

(41:20):
amazing news because it means that something is happening, we
are getting we're being aided by some cosmic context that
plays itself out. Okay, please understand that this is no
new aged blubber. These are prophecies from the native culture.

(41:44):
These are prophecies from the cutters. These are these are
the size from the apocalypse. We just need to know
how to interpret them. So we're being aided in the
cosmic context, as in, you cannot stop the ocean, and
those gods, those arcons, they know that they cannot do
anything to stop this cosmic context. So what are they
trying to do. They're trying to do everything in their

(42:06):
power to extend or to perhaps make it impossible for
humans to benefit from this cosmic uh scenarios from the
from these, from the from the context. Right that that's
that's that we are experiencing right now. How maybe by
trying to play with our DNA, which is obviously the

(42:27):
story of the last fare.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Right, Well, this I want to I want to touch
on this for a second since you said that. You
also mentioned earlier that we may not have as much
free will as we think we do, But I think
this is an indication that we do, because there was
an opportunity for us to participate with this experiment or
opt out of it. Now, if you're saying that we

(42:49):
didn't have free will, it was always said in our
programming that we wouldn't be opting into this thing. But
along the same lines of this, if this is the
end of the control system, of course they would want
to try and keep as many people as possible within
it and keep our attention on the material and the matrix.

(43:14):
And if we do have the choice to participate it
within it or not, they have offered us these experimental
jabs to possibly see who would be willing to continue
to participate in the matrix or not. What do you think.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I think that you know, in terms of we had
a choice to participate, the soul had a choice. I
think I see it a little bit differently. See, I
think I go very much with what the hermetic text suggests,
which is that majority of the souls that you meet

(43:56):
here in this realm are the souls from the rain
our nation cycles. So they've been here for eons, They've
been up and down, up and down. And when you
look around the world this what majority of people have
no idea what's going on. You can present them with
the facts, you can present them with information, you can
you know that consciousness is not there, So where is it.

(44:20):
It's been, it's been through that reincarnation cycle too many times.
It's just you know, you cannot ask someone to get taller.
It's just not gonna happen, right, So so so I
believe that many here there's not been any choice made.
They literally they've been here for ians. And then there
are other souls. And the funny thing is because you

(44:42):
see when I when I do my astrology and readings
for people, and I do them so that we can
we can basically de code the person as for what
the matrix what cards is the matrix trying to play
with me. So I am absolutely not trying to sort
of hook anybody under into astrology or numerology. I'm very
much an advocate of, you know, let's transcend that, let's

(45:06):
escape the code, right, not deliver it. But the point
being is that it's very very clear in those in
some of the parameters. It's just you have to know
what to look at. You can literally the ancients were
able to look at certain parameters that would indicate if

(45:28):
the soul is you know, more advanced, let's say, or
perhaps not from that reincarnation cycle. So I call them
the outsiders. I call these souls that they would have
been the ones who came into this realm from the outside,
as in, they are not part of this sort of
up and down heaven and Earth. But these are the

(45:50):
ones that came here on the job. So when you
mentioned that we all have a soul purpose and all that,
I believe that some of us came here on a job.
And and you know, literally, when you when you read
some of the ancient texts, when you when you read
the when you look through the interpretation of the Sumerian tablets,

(46:13):
what these articles, what these beings have been trying to
do here for all this time. This is not their
first rodeo. They did it before, They did it in
other places. They did it in the Orion, before they
started moving and sort of organizing themselves in different places.

(46:33):
So so in a way, you know, it seems like
some of the people who incarnating right now, they are
on a job. They're like a task force. They've done
this before somewhere else and and specifically within astrology. There
are certain things that show that I don't want to
call it wrong because I don't want to kind of

(46:54):
make it into hierarchy. You know, you're you're you're betteran
somebody else's worse. But you know, let's face it, some
of us immediately knew what's going on right in the
last four years, and some people until now have no
idea and deny everything. So what's going on right? Where
is the where is the missing kind of peace there?
And so I believe that some of us, some of

(47:15):
the souls that are here right now, they came from
the outside. Would they never been present here? Not necessarily,
they might have come and go because they knew how
to get out of here. Pathors knew how to get
out of here. There are certain groups, certain secret societies.
They know how to get out of here. The witches.

(47:37):
The witches, yeah, the ones that got burnt at the
stake back in the day, they knew how to get
out of here. There are you know that wisdom has
been also preserved Native American old wisdom. They knew how to.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Get out of What about the other side of that,
some speculate that there are powerful families and bloodlines that
know how to control their reincarnation to where they come
back into a very powerful family or bloodline so that
they can control things.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Absolutely, absolutely yes, because you see that only confirms that
there is a mechanism that can harvest the soul at death.
It can literally pull it out as if it was material, right,
and it can, and it can redirected or directed and
implement it placed it into whatever body that you want.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
So, so clearly we're too we're dealing with a very
advanced technology that we can't even grasp. Absolutely, I'm absolutely
there with you. And they have been doing that. They
have been doing that for ages. They have been doing
that for a very very long time. You know this
is they look at us as aunts. They look at
us as copproaches. They despise us, they have and anyway,

(48:51):
you know, this is what we can we can enter
into the discussion of the reptilian brain, right which obviously,
obviously we have been also tinted with the reptilian brain
context in in in our experience, which is unfortunately, where
the aggression is coming from, where the kind of domination
is coming from, and submission and you know, survival of

(49:13):
the fittest and competition, et cetera, et cetera. That's that's
that's not a human experience. This is a reptilian experience.
So so these I don't even know what to call
them people or something, you know, showing up in maybe
human human form, right, Uh, obviously they don't. They don't

(49:34):
function based on the same values. They don't they don't
live in the same in the same way like the
sort of normal regular humans, if you like. And of
course they would have been they would have been very
much controlling their own reinformation process. Right.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Well, let's talk more about what to expect from the
end of the world. It's being framed and it has
been for centuries as the literal in of the world,
and it's something that has brought a lot of fear
to the collective, but there's a lot of new understandings
and from what you're discussing that it's something that we

(50:09):
should be welcoming.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Absolutely, And you know, I think I think that the
obviously there's a there is an agenda going on here,
which is to you know, the more people are scared,
the more they can be controlled. So of course that
end of the world is going to get a very

(50:32):
bad marketing, is going to to get that kind of
marketing that's that's really really scary and and something to
you know, pray to God, right, So that's so that
it plays out well for you. Absolutely the opposite, absolutely
the opposite. And and you know, the indigenous stories again

(50:52):
and the mythology they tell us exactly what to expect.
And I really like the Norse mythology with the end
of the world Ragnarok Pey. Ragnarok is an old Norse
world which very often gets translated incorrectly. It is not
I mean, of course it is a symbolically end of
the world, but what it means this is the doom

(51:15):
of the gods. This is the twilight, but very much
the doom. This is the end of the gods. This
is the end of the world as we know it.
This is the end of this world, which is what,
which is the matrix? That's what it means. And they
knew it from the beginning that their time is limited.

(51:36):
The Ragnarok, the end of the world, the apocalypse, apocalypse
means what the revelation, right, Something is being revealed, something
is coming back. Apocalypse, Okay, Ragnarok, Doom of the gods,
they stay, Doom of the gods and men, Doom of
the gods, Doom of the gods and men. As in,

(51:58):
it is time, you see, the judgment day is not
We're not gonna be judged for our since we are
going to be not even judged. But there's going to
be something happening based on that. Again, I don't want
to call it vibration because it sounds new agy, but
there is that consciousness aspect going on here, and it

(52:19):
is nothing to do with the mind. You can meditate,
you can say affirmations, and it has nothing to do
with really truly being there. It has nothing to do
with that. So so very often you would you would
see the kind of simple people who have no idea
about all these pseudo spiritual things and you know, they
are much more advanced and much more connected to in

(52:42):
that true spiritual way than a lot of the kind
of you know people who are all over the internet
right now with their spirituality. Right, So, so doom of
the gods, what does it look like the Uda buddhas
so the zodiac or or that Samsara will right breaks

(53:06):
the end of the zodiac, the end of the matrix.
And then there is a fight. There's the ultimate fight
between the gods and the Yottun, the giants who are
the giants, the titans? Who are the titans the original
children of Gaya, the Earth and the Father's sky, right

(53:32):
uranus Okay, in Norse mythology, the giants if you look
into into the into the sagas giants, we date the gods,
which means giants yotun where the original inhabitants of the earth,
and the final bottle happens between the gods and the giants.

(53:54):
Is that a physical battle? Probably not? Probably not. The
battle is about something else, right, The battle is about
literally frequencies, vibrations, because this realm has been kept in
a very very low vibrational sort of bandwidth. Right. This

(54:15):
is why whenever you switch the TV on it's always
read gloom, fear, right, illness, et cetera, et cetera. It's
never it's never uplifting, it's never promising, it's never inspiring
and motivating, because we should always be, you know, living
from one day to another, hardly making our ends meet,

(54:38):
being traumatized, being scared, et cetera, et cetera, and sick.
That's that's how they want us. Why because in that
particular state, well, guess what, you're not gonna You don't
even have the capacity to remember who you are, and
she will never be able to connect with that alchemical
magic that we are all not is humans as those

(55:01):
original humans. We are much more powerful than them, that's
the that's the interesting thing. And and funny enough, because
the medium of our power are feelings, which is what
they don't have. And people are looking for, you know,
all those sad eye sort of abilities and and you know,
seeing auras and this and that, and being able to

(55:24):
do all sorts of weird things. That's not that's not
they have those abilities too. That's not where your sort
of edge lies. Our edge lies in feelings, in the emotions,
inability to feel, which they don't have. And through that feeling, sensation,
ability to connect with the earth, ability to feel the energy.

(55:45):
They are very in their intellect, they are very much
in their mind. That's why guess what kind of world
they are pushing, right, They're pushing AI. They're pushing intelligence,
but based on that sort of intellectual function, not the feeling.
That's that's how it's been done for centuries. So the

(56:07):
Titans versus the Gods, it is not a physical battle.
It is a battle based on Titans bringing bad and
we are the Titans, you know, the ones who are here,
the ones who feel that there's something going on, the
ones who are starting to remember something, right, They're starting

(56:30):
to remember their purpose, They're starting to remember that perhaps
they came here with a mission. Well, these are the Titans,
you know, this is the task force. These are the
ones that are here to facilitate these frequency changes into
much higher based on you know, I don't want to

(56:53):
sound new aging where let's keep it simple, different kind
of world based on compassion, understanding, love, empathy, support, you know,
inclusion and not competition and dominance and aggression. So so
that's literally those frequencies are driving the others out.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah, you were that you were saying that this battle
between the Titans or giants and the gods is not
going to be a physical battle, more of an energetic
Do you think that's the way it's always been, even
if we look at the Anunaki mythos, Could it be
that this was always just happening on an energetic level,
and maybe these beings were not necessarily physically here, but

(57:37):
interacting in these astral realms with our energetic selves, that
that may.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
As well been, you know, because we have lost contact
with our foot sight dimensional version, right, so we don't
even for us. This is just very abstruct to be
even even fothoming such things, but may as well be.
But you know, there's one more context that we absolutely
have to remember, which is the time now is unprecedented.

(58:07):
It is unprecedented because there is a reason why all
these prophecies, and some of them they have thousands and
thousands of years. You know, these are not prophecies from yesterday.
These are prophecies that been that have been told and
and and you know that there's been there's been verbal
accounts of these kept in variety of cultures and and
also in the ancient sects. As we know, you know,

(58:29):
apocalypse is not the first place where where that very
prophecy has been captured. It was present before. So all
these cultures back in the day, they knew that there
will come at time, and that context of a timing
was critical because we were going to get we as

(58:50):
in the Earth was going to get support, cosmic support,
and as above so below. Certain processes were going to
start taking place that were not taking place before. So
when you ask me that, you know, were these battles physical,
I would say that they were physical in the past.

(59:12):
But right now, right now, there is no space for
physical battle. And you know that because guess what, They're
not here. They're not even here. I mean, if you
look to the Bible, right if you look to the
ancient text, the extraterrestrials were present here on Earth physically.
They were here. They were here, and I'm not saying

(59:33):
all the time, but they were and they are captured.
They are captured in the art work, they are captured
in the mythology, et cetera. But right now, and of
course you can we can talk about shape shifting and
all the good stuff, but I'm talking about you know,
the ones that literally are of a different size and.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
They're not here.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Why because for a very long time there's been already
a shift in energy here in this plane that was
nothing to do with what we're doing. It was to
do this cosmic context. They got literally pushed out of here.
The only ones that are here, may be potentially left,
are the you know, the kind of the lowest, the
low tier, the bottom of the pyramids, you know, the

(01:00:16):
little yeah, the newspaper boys of the of the ones
that used to you know that used to actually call
the shows so so so the ones that are here,
they mean nothing. They are like rats running from a
sinking ship. Am I saying let's do nothing and wait
for this to play out? No, that's not what I'm saying,

(01:00:36):
because that's nonsense, okay. And everybody's saying that, you know,
waiting for Padiens to come and save us, or any
other nonsense. That's not gonna happen. This is very much
our job. This is why, you know, some of us
know what's going on. This is why some of us
are induitivey guided towards certain you know, taking certain steps,
living in a certain way. Some of you, I don't

(01:00:57):
know if people know this show, I may I recommend it.
There is a show on I think it's still on Netflix.
It's literally called Ragnarok. It's a Norwegian it's a Norwegian show.
It came out I think two years ago something like that.
It's three seasons now, and the first two seasons they
kind of came out together and then we had to

(01:01:18):
wait I think two years for the last season. And
you know, the funny thing is because a lot of
people watched the last season and they got very disappointed.
And I don't want to spoil it for everybody, just
please go and watch if you like, but you know,
people got disappointed because the third season was meant to
be right, it was meant to be the final battle,

(01:01:38):
and we were waiting for all this final battle. Did
the final battle sake place? Well? What made you watch
the show and decide for yourself what was the final battle?
That's a very interesting take on Ragnarok, which is coming
from those that like to, you know, tell us something right,

(01:01:59):
because they always been need to smuggle in the truth
with a bit of nonsense. So of course, you know,
the gods are portrayed as the good guys and the yourtune.
The giants are portrayed as a bad guy. So there's
always an inversion, but you know, go and see for
yourself how that neal plays out, and very deep, very interesting,

(01:02:21):
deep message there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Now, there are some that are speculating that we are
experiencing already profound changes in our reality that can be
described as the Mendella effect. And I've even experienced small
changes in my daily reality that seemingly weren't like this before.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I think that what we are experiencing is literally collapse
of the matrix. You know, even if you look at
it in that very ai context. You know, those those
sort of cubes that this matrix you know, is built,
like if we if we look at the movie matrix
or the thirteenth Floor, if anybody watched the thirteenth Floor,

(01:03:04):
it's quite old, right. At some point, the guy sort
of takes the car and he drives to Hollywood and
literally he that's the end of That's the end of
the matrix, right, he literally sees the net at that location. So,
to me, the glitches in the matrix, the Mandela effect,

(01:03:25):
you know, the fact that people start remembering things differently,
the fact that you know, you know, you're one hundred
percent convinced that you know, for the last seven days.
You you you've gone by a certain place and it
looks like that is today it looks totally different, like
you can cut your arm for that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
That is to me, matrix breaking down. That is, these
are the glitches in the matrix which are and you know,
it's more and more of those because because at the
end of the world, when I say that the burrows
will or the snake right, it will bite through its
own tail. It is literally so so the zodia, this mechanism,

(01:04:02):
the whold, which is which is creating this deterministic sort
of reality for us that we unwillingly but have to
subscribe to. Right, our experience becomes dictated by some kind
of code, and so a lesser expend you lesser extent.
You do have some free will. But you know a

(01:04:24):
lot of those people I would call them an autopilot.
They have They have no idea what free will. They
just they just literally, you know, they will deliver whatever
it is in front of them. So but but but
I would say that you know, some of us who
are more aware, we're starting to see patterns, We're starting
to see things not quite making sense, and that free
will really creeps in there properly, right, and and this

(01:04:46):
is how we kind of escape the code by literally
calling the trick of the matrix. Right, But I would
say absolutely what you what you say is on the
glitches in the matrix, the the the mandela. Yeah, that
to me is uh confirmation that something is really falling apart.
And and you know, think about it even in the

(01:05:08):
context of the of the plandemic. Right. Well, I'm based
in Europe, I'm based in Norway. I come from Poland, uh,
And I know that in America, you know, for you guys,
the timeline was a little bit different for the restrictions
to to sort of be taken away and the travel,
et cetera. But for us, you know, I still can't

(01:05:29):
wrap my head around it that literally one month we
were this close and expecting digital passports, the vaxed passports
to be rolled out, and I was preparing that I
will never go back to Poland again, because you know,
I'm gonna I'm not gonna get one, right, And literally
overnight it started from the UK. They dropped everything, They

(01:05:51):
dropped everything, and it was massive step backwards from them.
Why why what happened? Why why did they do that?
You know, and and of course they're not gonna they're
not gonna announce it on TV. They're not gonna they're
not gonna say, you know, we had a major you know,

(01:06:11):
some something happened, something energetically happened, and and basically we
failed here. They're not gonna say that. They're just gonna
they're not gonna say anything, right, they just did what
they did. So so looking at looking at the way
they are, the sort of the scenario is unfolding. And
and also you know, looking to me at because again

(01:06:36):
I think what they need, right, they need our attention,
because this is how they create whatever they want. It's
a that creates. They cannot create. They they tell us, right.
And then it really makes me laugh when all these
people on TikTok are, you know, showing all these Simpson
movies and all that the Simpson movies that never existed.

(01:06:56):
You know, this is part of the control, the position,
creating those you know, creating the means and everything and
what they want to happen they put in front of us,
in front of our noses, and we delivered that for them.
So I always say, why don't you stop looking? Why
don't you just stop engaging with this world. You know,
why do you need to engage with this fake, illusionary world.

(01:07:21):
Why don't you start just focusing on yourself and the
real world. You know, the Pandora, the Avatar's pandora that's
out there. You know where we were living in a
in a communion, and it was like an ecosystem, right,
the connection between the planet and between the people, and

(01:07:42):
there was there was no money, there was no taxes,
there was no systems, and everybody was happy. Right. I'm
not talking about going back to sleeping on trees, but
I'm just saying that there is another way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Everybody's talking about Matrix the movie being a documentary. I'm
arguing that Avatar Avatar the movie, that's especially the first part.
I haven't watched anything else. Just watch the first part.
That's a documentary of what happened here. Of course in
an inverted versions, right with the humans attacking, But that's
what happened here. So why can't we go back to that.

(01:08:15):
You know, let's plug out of the Matrix as in,
let's stop looking and getting angry at Facebook, Let's stop
arguing with fellow awakened or unawakened to whatever you know
that we know better, they know better. Just just leave it,
you know, let's just leave it and all of us,
especially especially if you are the ones who claim to

(01:08:38):
be aware and awakened, then why do you get full
into all that nonsense?

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
I love it. That is a great note to end on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Ola.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Thank you so much. This was awesome and we definitely
have to do this again. There's much more that we
could discuss before we close out. Let everyone know how
they can find about you and some of the amazing
cosmic wisdom that you're offering online.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
So so I can be found through two websites. They
sort of focus on slightly different things. My first website
self master request dot com. So there you can contact
me if you would like to dive into your code, astrology, numerology,

(01:09:28):
so we can look into that. We can look into
basically what kind of cards the matrix has dealt you,
and and how to best uh yeah, stop falling for
the cold, so how to escape, how to transcend? And
and the other website Mystical Arctic Journeys. So of course,

(01:09:49):
this is my way of inviting everybody to come to
this absolutely breathtaking, spectacular, transformational region full of primodial and energy.
You know, you have to be here. I cannot describe it.
I tried to three times and failed. When people come,
it's a totally different experience. So I have now opened

(01:10:12):
up to a sort of possibility of people coming, you know,
as a couple, individually, as a group of friends, or
in whatever other capacity, so I can be your guide.
It is not going to be a tourist experience. It
is going to be, you know, this kind of experience
like we've had over the past hour here. So we're

(01:10:35):
gonna be you know, it's going to be a real
talk in a context, the context of mythology, in a
context of ancient wisdom. And I will take you to
certain places that are going to blow your mind around here,
and I can I can guarantee you if you are
ready for this kind of energy and to transform your life,
this is the best.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
That's awesome. Oh, thank you so much. Like I said,
we'll definitely do this again. And until next time, everyone
have a wonderful evening. We will be talking today. I
want to welcome Tommy Edwards. He is a former consensus
All American running back NCAA national scoring leader for six
weeks during the ninety three season. As a freshman at

(01:11:17):
Virginia Tech, he began experiencing what he had come to
understand is alien abductions and military abductions. In the summer
of nineteen ninety four, Tommy, welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
I am excellent. It's great to have you on. I
am super stoked to get into your experiences and your story,
which is incredible. It sounds like they are taken from
Hollywood science fiction, from CIA handlers to military and extraterrestrial
abductions and much more. This is gonna be great. We've

(01:11:55):
got lots to get to and as usual, we're gonna
let the audience decide how they feel about everything, and
we're just gonna let you tell us your story. I'll
have a few questions as well. Before we get into anything.
Let's just get a basic background. Tell us a little
bit about yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Grimens Maltown in Virginia and the Blues Mountains and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Was a No.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
All American athlete at a high school and then set
some records at Virginia Tech. Was running back and I
let the nation scoring there as a freshman and do
a and some different things. And and then Mike start

(01:12:45):
having the experiences of the summer before my last season
at Jeanie Tech that played there, where I felt like
I was being abducted by aliens and uh and or
like more recently i've heard the term of my lab.
But uh, yeah, that's kind of how things started. And
then turns out that there's stuff going on before that

(01:13:08):
in my life that I've just had no memory of.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Right over, we're going to get to your experiences in
a second. I want to hear all about that. You
used to also play with some pretty popular rock musicians,
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Oh? Yeah, I mean I'm a musicians singer, songwriter, and
I run in a bank on APB for about two years.
It's Artemus Pole Band. He was the drummer from Leonard
Skinner for like seventy one to ninety three, seventy three
to ninety one, and then I worked with them in
the twenty ten twenty twelve time period. Yeah, excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Yeah, Well, let's hear about your experiences with as much
detail as you can remember, starting with the first that
you can remember.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
First thing I can remember I was I was laying
in bed uh a girlfriend over the summer between the
nine three season of the ninety four season does living
off campus in a house with some with some of
my teammates, and that's kind of I was laying in

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bed and next the end, I know, I'm like, I
feel this electric surge through my body and I can't
move and I can kind I can see that there's
something stand above me. I couldn't tell what it was time.

(01:14:43):
It just seemed it was dark. But it's like I
took every ounce of my energy that I could to
like move my hand over, just to crawl over and
pull my hand over my fingers until it touched the
ground was staying there. It's almost like that grounded me out,

(01:15:04):
like ground out. Whatever it was that was like the
electric the electric current that felt like it was flowing
to my body. And then I kind of woke up
a gasper air and there wasn't any there, But it
was like way later in the in the morning, like

(01:15:24):
over I guess middle of the night. A few hours
had passed, and then the next time it happened, I
was I was by myself, and it just it just
seemed to be this. It's kind of the same thing.
I felt the zapp of electricity through my body and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
And then.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
It was stronger the second time, and then I blacked
out almost right away, and then throughout my life following that,
like I would have kind of periodic like reoccurrences of
a similar thing. But it also started me into like
this an existential crisis kind of you know, where I'm

(01:16:04):
trying to like trying to find out what the hell
that was because I didn't have any contexts for it.
It wasn't until like maybe a year and a half later,
or I was getting to come home from that transferred
to Boise State at the point. But it's getting ready
come home for for Christmas. And I was at a
friend's house and he opened a drawer looking for CD

(01:16:26):
to borrow to get back, and there was a book
called Communion was a Whitley Shre streamer and it's the cover,
Like like I said, let me borrow that. And that
wasn't really a reader, you know, like dyslexic growing up,
had difficult time like learning to read or concentrating, you know,
on anything other than like I read comic books. And

(01:16:49):
then like got into some other ship like high school
like Stephen King and some stuff like that. But it
wasn't like a I wasn't you know, like pick up
and you know book and read it for just for
pleasure too often until this book, until that book, and
that got my attention, and I just looked at the covers,

(01:17:11):
you know. The great alien just got my attention, and
I felt like I had seen that before and I
had been drawing that like quite often leading up to
him opened the door, and it wasn't really I don't know, uh,
it just grew me. And so I borrowed the book
and leaving it on the plane, and like while I

(01:17:33):
was in Virginia, I ordered another copy and went to
the went to the library and and checked checked it
out from the library to finish it, and got the
second one and it was just like so many things
in the book seemed in alignment with the things that
were happening with me. That I went on to I
guess read his next couple of books that they came out,

(01:17:53):
and that turned down to like Bud Hopkins some other
ship too. But initially it was like like like spiritual
stuff that that that I had looked into, like through
uh different forms of different world religions and stuff. And
one of the things that I had found was it
was like moving into uh like almost like ask for

(01:18:15):
travel and uh and so like when that's when those
things would happen, like I would try to not not
show any fear towards it, you know, and then eventually,
like like in the last several years, I've been when
anytime it's happened, I've been like awake and like conscious.

(01:18:35):
And at one point, I guess maybe like five years ago,
the first time that I was like like fully wake,
I was laying in bed watching TV and uh, like that,
a surge of entergy electricity came through my body and
then I was able to like compose myself as like okay,
and I reached oarted to turn the TV off. So

(01:18:57):
it's totally black in the room with the exception of
the light coming in through the kitchen, and I could
see the movement going back and forth in front of
in front of the light.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
It's like it was like taking a glass of water
and running it back and forth over the crack of
the door. I was like the movie Predator, remember how
he had that camo that would reflect what was behind him.
Was like that, like that like the cloaking material that
they make Now, Yeah, it's kind of what it seemed like.
And uh, and I could see three three entities moving

(01:19:29):
back and forth back for the dead, and like when
it was done, and I sense that they were gone
and the door didn't open, the close or anything. They
just they were just there and they weren't there that
I was able to turn the TV back on, like
the end credits for the show that the credit that

(01:19:51):
start with the starting credits were coming on when I
turned off the end credits. When I turned it back on,
it's like maybe twenty minutes. And then I guess like
two thousand and one, I woke up with the Laker
search and had like this, it was like a blue

(01:20:13):
led or something about this far away from my eye,
and those times that time I swoke up to it
and then like no memory of what happened after that,
you know, Like, but there's been lots of other things,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Now I'm looking at your talking points here. You said
in nineteen ninety six, you witnessed a wormhole open and
some sort of being came through.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Yeah. I can only make assumption that the thing that
we saw after we saw the wormhole thing opened come
through it, because it just it was really just an
odd certain like circumstances scenario, Like two of my buddies
that had played ball with the Tech came over Memorial
Day to where I was living, like fifteen to fifteen

(01:21:03):
miles away from Jeania Tech, and we went for a walk,
and we're gonna go for a hike down in this
little nature area. So it's a nature preserved now. In
the seventies, they had built some trails and stuff in
this little valley that was kind of like in between
the two parts of the little town I grew up in.

(01:21:25):
It was actually a division like a like a you know,
demarcation point for the two up until it had merged.
And then they built a land bridge over part of
it to on Maine where Main Street is, to replace
an old bridge and to accommodate the creek that runs
through there out to the river, they built a they'd

(01:21:48):
built a you know, like a tunnel for it. And
it was something built by the CCC, like the Conservation
Corps during the during the oh Depression, as part of
the New Deal, they did all these these engineering built

(01:22:10):
all these things like the National Parks and things like that.
But uh so this was built in nineteen thirty three
and as we got close to close to the to
the mouth of the opening of the tunnel, we started
hearing what sounded like just hand drums, you know, coming

(01:22:31):
through the tunnel. Uh, and they had often had powows.
There's another there's the city park on the other side
of the tunnel there on the other side where that
flows out next to the river on the river plain,
and they have powerows very right way, so we think

(01:22:51):
about maybe going over there. And you can walk through
the tunnel on a pipe like a water main that
runs through it, and that's up above the water level
of And as we were walking through, but halfway through,
I stopped and started singing a song that I'd written,
just kind of acapello, just because of the the echo

(01:23:12):
in there, you know, and you know, hung out for
a minute, and then went ahead and walked on down
like we're gonna one out the other side. As we
approached the other it's got louder as we went through
the thing until he got to the where you stepped
out of the tunnel into onto the park side and uh,

(01:23:33):
soon to step out. It was there wasn't any drums
or anything. It was just like bird stirping and like
an occasional car would drive by, which was weird as
ship and uh, and then he stepped back in the
tunnel and you could hear it again, and uh didn't
seem to be some type of like audio like audio
audiotory effect or anything like that from you know, from

(01:23:56):
the tunnel or whatever. So but and so as we
started walking back through, by the time we got back
to like the center where we had stopped the first
time where I sang, it was like the drums that
had dissipated. We couldn't hear them at all anymore. But
there was a there was a big ass hole in

(01:24:18):
the ground where the creek was. It was like and
it was this is like a big whirlpool that just
dropped into blackness, and the creek's this deep. It's like
six inches deep. You know, it's not very significant flow
of water, but this thing was just had opened up.
And the time that we walked past it come back

(01:24:40):
and we stood there and checked it out for I
don't know, fifteen twenty minutes, just kind of in all,
I guess, and then finally headed back over to the
nature preserve. And when we got out, like I'll start
talking about how it seemed.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
Like the like the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Like the world and reality and just our our our
reality is like a construct of the different combinations of frequency,
wave lengths and and amplitude and everything's just it's a
it's a big algorithmic expression of geometry. You know, it's
like mandobroad set, like it's that's been for to mention

(01:25:26):
that we live in right And and suddenly it's weird
kind of like chirping started coming from here from this tree.
It looked like a tree that didn't have a woman
and leaves on it, and it didn't have any like
this sound like a cardinal, like a cardinal like chirping,
but it had like this weird kind of reverb be

(01:25:48):
kind of vibe on it. And whenever trying to see
what this bird was that it was really loud. Uh
and there wasn't any anything in the tree at all,
you know there there wasn't anything anywhere around it, and
and it kept chirping. That was like another weird thing
that it was like three as a traffictor right there.

(01:26:12):
And uh, so we decided that we will leave. And
as we were walking out to leave, had to kind
of walk away from like upstream basically, and then come
up a road into a parking lot that had been locked.
You know, primarily they're only used in that little valley

(01:26:36):
down there. And what's that does nature preserved now like
as a place to dunk concrete and ship They just
city And this was like a being a holiday. There
wasn't anything like that going on. But suddenly where there
had been no vehicles, there was this car parked inside
the parking lot and just kind of a weird angle.
It's like it had just appeared because everything was still locked,

(01:26:59):
and it had out of state plates, had West Virginia
plates and uh, and the wind, the wind. The windows
on the thing were like opaque black, like you couldn't
see in them at all. Like we walked up and
like looked at it and tried to check it out,
and like the door handle, like we did, didn't move
at all, you know, how the door handled like a

(01:27:20):
jiggle a little bit. It was like like it was
welded to the thing. And then I kind of walked
over and just sat down and like, like I said,
I've been reading all these different kind of esoteric like
like spiritual books and different things, and I had just
started started practicing like some meditation and so I sat down,
started doing some meditative breathing and just kind of checking

(01:27:41):
this thing out and trying to, you know, process all
the ship that was going on. And my buddy walked
around the other side of the car, and all of
a sudden, it rippled like water, and like all of
the like the like the term, like the features that
made it look like a car, or the color, the

(01:28:01):
different materials, the texture, the form of it, all that
started dissipated and it just kind of the wheels sucked
up into it, and it was just this like amorpheus
like floating the size of a car, but like a mercury,
like like a terminator two, you know when the T two. Yeah,
it was like that like liquid mirror, that's kind of

(01:28:23):
what looked like. And it just kind of flowed there
for I don't know, a ten to fifteen minutes and
sat there checking this thing out, kind of just in awe.
And then it's like the wheels dropped back down out
of the thing and it retook the shape and form
of the car there, and I got up, walked off.

(01:28:44):
My buddies followed me. Nobody say anything. We walked like
three blocks back to my house. Four blocks back to
my house and they got in the car, waved and
left and we didn't talk about it again until a
Mantoa had a party like a month month and a
half later, and we had all witnessed the same thing.
It was like the craziest shit I'd ever seen in

(01:29:05):
my life. I mean, like more so than that than
any of the like waking up and not beyond the
move shit like this was like.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Like it shook my foundation.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Yeah, you know you eventually, in around twenty twenty, you
were approached by someone that claims to be in a
three letter agency that revealed some things to you. Now
before that, between the years of nineteen ninety six until
twenty twenty, what kind of profound experiences have you had,

(01:29:41):
if any?

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Well, see, I lost time a few times, like some UFOs.
Like in twenty thirteen, the Wednesday before Easter, I was
driving back from Nashville. I had a young man that
that I worked with who has Asthmerger's disorder ASBERT. He

(01:30:05):
was mentoring him, like teaching life skills and stuff. We
were driving back from Nashville and we were coming up
Interstate eighty one is from forty to eighty one back
to where we live. And I don't know the time
we left Naturville. We should have been home about twelve

(01:30:26):
maybe twelve thirty max. But as we're driving, all of
a sudden, see like we're kind of here like a
regional airport. So I wasn't sure. When I first saw
the light, it was like, you know, just like assessment
or something sort of helicopter that it was just, but

(01:30:48):
it was it seemed to be stationary, and the closer
we got to it it it just got brighter and
it was looked like it was maybe twenty feet off
the ground. And then it's like we drove under the
thing and then it shined directly into the van or

(01:31:12):
into the truck, and then it seemed to move with
us forward and said the same speed that we were moving.
And I look over to the young man that I
was working with and said, hey, man, do you hear anything?
And he says no. I said, do you hear a helicopter?
He's like no, oh shit, And he remembers seeing some

(01:31:36):
stuff outside of the truck as we were moving. And
actually I interviewed him about it maybe two years ago
what he remembered about it. But and then like next thing,
I know, we're just we're just I'm just driving and nothing,
nothing had changed, and it seemed like they're just all
sudden there was a light and that that was gone,
and it seemed to have lasted for like maybe you know,

(01:31:57):
a minute or two. When we got back to drop
him off, like I was gonna stop at somewhere to
get gas, and everything was closed. When they sings closed
at like midnight typically mm hmm, something a little after
and uh like McDonald's playing everything. Everything that stayed there,

(01:32:18):
I think that stayed opened late was that one the
one that wasn't open, And then we got back in
it was like about four o'clock in the morning. Oh wow,
So there was this couple hours of missing time. We
were still about an hour and a half from home
when that happened. That was down in your Adkin or
now it's down there Abington, Virginia, I guess at between

(01:32:44):
Abingdon Marion, which is uh way out and way out
near Bristol. It's kind of where Tennessee and Virginia meet.
But yeah, that was profound. I had something else like
that happened in ninety nine when I was driving from

(01:33:04):
my hometown to South Carolina to Myrtle Beach, bringing a
truckload of stuff for a home show that we were
taking part in for our family's business. And I was
meeting my dad down there and they were expecting me
at like ten o'clock and I didn't get down there
until three o'clock in the morning. Kind of same thing.

(01:33:28):
I was going down, I think, I think Route two
twenty down through North Carolina, and it comes to like
a two two lane section kind of the same thing.
It looked like there was something I thought. I thought
it was like maybe a because I remember there at
some point there had been like somewhere on that road

(01:33:49):
there's like two basketball size like colored things that are
strung with some type of cable over that road that
to give indication of something like. I don't know if
there's an airport right there too, or if it's some

(01:34:13):
sort of clearance thing for the vehicles, but it's kind
of out in middle of nowhere, said plant. Didn't really
it makes sense, but uh, I know something about the
size of a basketball blowing and kind of the same thing.
When I got to it, it seemed like it. So
I started traveling at the same rate a speed that
I was, and then there was like that long period

(01:34:36):
of time where I can't I can't account for what happened.
I was, you know, five hours late getting where it's going.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
During this time period, do you have any memories of
interacting with non human intelligences?

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Yeah, like right out of shortly after the experience with
the with the vortex like you know, wormhole thing, I.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
I was having a lot of anxiety, you know, just
in general, and that's kind of what led me to
leave and like playing football college and this this kind
of seemed to I'm not sure if this is what
really like all the ship like really like set it off,
but like it put it into overdrive, you know. And
so that was dealing with all the day to day
stuff from that, and it built to a place where

(01:35:26):
I was I always had trouble sleeping and just to
relax my body as I tried to sleep, So I
was doing, like I said, one of these meditative breathing
techniques and stuff. And one night I was breathing long,
slow breaths and I was visualizing the different the colors

(01:35:49):
associated with the associated chakras in the body. The energy Yah, yeah,
the bordes of energy for the body and as I
did this breathing up, I went up through the chain
from from the root shocker all the way through the
crown and I shot out of my body and Astro

(01:36:12):
traveled and was all of a sudden, I was in
the in this like floating in total like darkness, and
like like I thought, you know, but it sounded like
I was saying that loud. I said, where am I?
And this this real this thundering like low voice goes,
do your conture rippor.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
That was the first like thing where like something answered
me and like there's something that happened. I was like,
what the fuck was that? I do the concepts, but
like had no idea what that meant, you know. And
even then it was like that's cool that what you know,
like like what the fuck is this? But it was

(01:36:53):
that was That was another one of those things like
like it was like I was laying there and then
it was like the feeling of movement on my on
my on my face and like on my body, just
feeling like when and then it was almost like like
when you see like the star Trek when they see

(01:37:15):
the stars and then they turn into streaks. M h.
It's kind of like that, and there was like alright,
and then that was just in the blackness. And and
there's another time that happened when I was in Manhattan.
This isn't a cousin of mine. I laid down to
like take a nap, and immediately just the sensation of

(01:37:36):
movement right into the thing, right into that movement, right
into that space, I guess, or void of space. It's
often called there's those things. I got met a dude
or again, look, I guess it was a dude. Ah

(01:37:57):
in uh I got. I got a rest in Kentuck
for possession of pot like that same summer. And it
was a little bit of pot and a bowl and
I was I was smoking try to help sleep typically
and I mean I was its owner too, but like
Kentucky had a zero tolerance, yeah, on marijuana. So they

(01:38:23):
rested me, like you know. It took me to jail,
and I was there for a couple of days. And
when they finally put me into like population, which was
I wasn't there for long. It was very overcrowded, mostly
like country boys that came down from like the hills
into towns college town and would get too drunk and
they'd get a drunk in public, and you know, after
the fourth or fifth one, they decided to keep them

(01:38:43):
for a weekend or two, you know, and so it
was overcrowded and like like eventually like the lights were
turned off, you know, it was probably you know, the
capacity in this little this little pod or whatever. And

(01:39:05):
as lights came down, conversation turned to weird ship. Yeah,
and then eventually UFOs and aliens and from the other
corner of the of the the pod, this guy back
and forth with me, and he ends up bringing his
his fucking sleeper old and fucking everything over next made

(01:39:26):
to have a conversation. And I had just been reading
this book called, uh It's nothing in this book is true,
but everybody, it's exactly how things are about by Brazil mhm.
And he claims that Frazil was his neighbor there in
Kentucky and and then went on to start telling me
about all this crazy ship about them about mind cocaine

(01:39:50):
for like for like, I guess through their agency, Iran Contra.
And so they utilized these things from Yo wagons and
they were like essentially like a suburban with diesel engines
that they were running jet fuel through cooling it with

(01:40:12):
liquid nitrogen, and you know that's not I don't know
if this is this is this is what the guy
told me, and that they were they needed that type
of power to move these I guess he said they were.
They were like armored vehicles. Uh and uh, just talking

(01:40:33):
about dropping the ago wagons through that through the jungle
and of Central America or wherever. They would put the
stuff on fishing trawlers, I guess, and then they would
take that to the oil rigs and transfer over and

(01:40:56):
like like frozen shrimp and the you know, these helos
and cocaine frozen up in bungslosh up and then the
rough necks would take it over when they go back
into the States. So there there wasn't any customs because
they hadn't gone off, you know, out of the country officially.
But then he had this They had this plastic peanut

(01:41:20):
butter like like thing, you know, peanut would come in
and he opened up. It was just full of cash,
like hundreds and fifties. I'm like, he's like, you need
bar some money, get out, like I think got something coming.
But it was weird as ship. And then as we're talking,
like it's low light, so it's like this guy's almost

(01:41:41):
like almost like the car thing. It almost seemed like
the way he looked that was like a cloaking thing.
And then it would like the glitch and it looked
like kind of kind of reptilian, but like with like
feathers like you know, like like like almost like perry
out of like like wispy feather things coming out out

(01:42:03):
of the the I guess scales. And and that went
on for maybe fifteen minutes. Uh and he could he
makes he goes, are you okay? Uh? I know I

(01:42:24):
hadn't been talking at him. It was uh yeah, it
wasn't like I could walk like walk off, you know, yeah,
locked in the guy. And uh so that was that
was pretty profound, you know, like I mean, the whole
experience get arrested, that was you know, the fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
How did that encounter with the gentleman end?

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Uh well, it's like, uh, I don't know if they
we talked all night and then like earlier that next morning,
somebody was there to pick me up. So like it
didn't kind of weird, you know, it was just it
was all weird altogether, and like he didn't acknowledge that
he was he wasn't human, but he said a lot

(01:43:09):
of really just crazy shit and tied to things that
within the authology community and things that were just like.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
You know, now, tell us about sorry, tell us about
some of your more recent experiences, starting with the gang
stalking in twenty seventeen and it ultimately led to an
encounter with a three letter agent. So tell us about
everything that happened in more recent years.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Oh, I mean there was there was encounters with multiple
three letter agencies.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
Oh well, tell us about it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Yeah, Like, like, well, I haven't played football, and like
when when I started having a real bad anxiety and
depression when I was in college about the same time.
So shit was going on, like I've taken a lot

(01:44:05):
of hits and delivering a bunch you know, was on
the ESPN hit hit like it hits the year like
two years in a row. Was he has been hit
the year in so routed my brain a few times,
and uh, it wasn't until like the like the discovery
of CTE and kind of the associated symptoms that are

(01:44:29):
typically associated with with that and development of degenerative brain disease,
that I started to better understand what I was dealing
with with the depression because a depressions just made me worse.
And I took some anti anxiety stuff, but it didn't
seem to like really work for me other than just

(01:44:49):
making me this drowsy and uh like I had really
severe reactions to the antidepressants and to find out that
it was from you know, brain damage, I started like
advocating and speaking up for the CTE awareness. And I'd
already run a nonprofit organization that started for eight years

(01:45:10):
for mental health awareness following the shootings at Virginia Tech.
And it started it was in two thousand and seven,
so then he doesn't eight They got the nonprofit roll
in the Heart of Virginia Foundation and music from Metal
Health Awareness, and I hadn't really had had pretty good
support in that and doing that. And then but when
I started advocating and talking about CTE, I started getting

(01:45:33):
wellness checks anytime I would post about it, like on Facebook,
and like the police would show up my house the
next morning, you know, check on me, which no, they
had never done once when I was talking about mental
health and and like and he's pretty provocative, like like
I don't know, like like performance art in theater, you know,
like and used provocative like messaging as a way to

(01:45:58):
like make people think, and we had one of my
goals was stigma reduction from mindal illness. And so all
of a sudden, this seems kind of odd and out
of the blue, you know, And then I something's happened,
and I recognized it as an attempt to try to

(01:46:20):
silence me from talking about those things. And when I
did that, there was like the local police my hometown.
First of all, a dispatcher called and told me to
take the post down off social media, like fifteen minutes
after I posted it, just making me think, hey, somebody

(01:46:40):
is watching my ship within the local local structure there.
And so after it had been established that I wasn't
breaking any laws and what I was doing with was
within my civil rights, and you know, asked them to
fuck off. And next morning they asked me if I'm home.
I said no, I was out of town and I

(01:47:01):
wasn't at town. The next morning, I get a phone
call from police there at my house. They've entered my
house without a warrant. They said that they when they
got through the door was standing ajar and like literally
like five minutes before they called me, like my cousin
called me and he had just been at my house
and fed my dogs and locked everything up and made

(01:47:22):
everything sure everything was secure. So so they made up
a wellness check to come check on me, and then
kicked the door into to say that it was that
it was standing open when he got there, and that
they had by law, they're used to go through and
and sweep the house to make sure there's no one's

(01:47:42):
hurt or you know. So I got my house a
little tiny, like you know, three or four rooms, you know.
And uh, it's about twenty minutes into this conversation. I'm like,
you guys done sweep on my house to figure out
that I'm not dead as you're talking to me for
forty five minutes, and they were. They were thoroughly searching

(01:48:03):
the house, went through everything, left every drawer, everything opened,
I mean so thoroughly that they found like the accommodation
to my safe and opened it and uh, and then
they were pinging my phone, so I fegarret where I was.
And then they contacted the authorities there in New Jersey
where I was in Bergen County, which is also kind

(01:48:26):
of where Newark is. They requested a swat team be
dispatched to apprehend me, saying that was armed, homicidal, most
likely had it for a school like two weeks after
the Parkland shootings, and like the nonprofit that started was
mental health awareness, stigma reduction as a way to print,

(01:48:47):
that was that was our missions. That so perfectly double
slap in the face. But after being on the phone
for forty five minutes with them, you guy's good. Can
I hop off here now? My ex and I were
going to brunch for her birthday and that's why I

(01:49:08):
was up there in New Jersey up to visit the chicken.
So we're we're having brunched or diner in the next
county over. She gets two text messages saying that to
Shelton Place, one from a neighbor and one from landlord
because there were a swat team going in across the street.

(01:49:29):
And then the detective calls her asking her she knows
where I am, so she hands me the phone. This
guy tells me that my vehicle has been involved in
a hit and run and I need to come fill
some paperwork out. I'm like, okay, we'll be right there.
Get off the phone. I'm like not going anywhere near
that shit, you know. And then we went on into

(01:49:53):
the city for the day what he planned to do
it in New York and hung out, and then on
the way back in to town, we stopped at the
police station just yeah, signed whatever they needed me to
sign for the hit and run. Yeah, And the guy
that was on duty was like, man, you must have
kissed somebody off bad. I'm like, well, what do you mean?

(01:50:16):
He said, somebody, somebody wanted to try to get you killed.
And when they had timed out, after six hours of
sheltering like schools and businesses and and residents and place there,
they finally call it off and they called the authorities
in my hometown to find out more information about this

(01:50:38):
person that they needed to be so concerned about. You know,
what if I had I killed somebody, or I had
you know, like if I had escaped, you know, it
was a convict or something. And they said it was
for a wellness check. We want to be the magic
in house wellness checks. So it concerned my girlfriend so

(01:51:00):
much that she ended up following me back to Virginia
to confront the police to make sure that they understood
that because it was like it was like a tempt
on my life, and it was heightened kind of tensions
in the country, like right after the Park of shootings.
Yeah so, uh but it did a couple of thousand
dollars with the damage in the van and uh and

(01:51:21):
had forty hundred dollars in cash missing that had in
like a hidden place in the van that I had
brought to put down a piece of property to move there.
So uh that shortly after that things started to get
weirder and weirder like that that landed me on the
Terrace watch list. And yeah, so and this is this

(01:51:44):
had all this had all started from a parent going
into the like the school board in my hometown, demanding
that they deny me or that they've banned me from
school property, which is a violation of my civil rights.
And I've spoken and like, yeah, hundreds of schools over
the years with with a nonprofit and uh uh so

(01:52:08):
just seemed absurd, but they did. They sent me, sent
me a no trustpass thing kind of indefinite and which
they finally reinstated like last year, except they haven't told
me who the person was. I was told that a
parent went in and demanded that they they that they
banned me from property or that that parent would take

(01:52:29):
their child elsewhere to have them educated, to educate them,
which they have a right to take their child anywhere
they want to. But I'm trying to figure out who
it was so I could face my accuser and figure
out what political motivation they had to do so, and like,
I'm pretty sure that's somebody that has something to do
with with Virginia Tech where I play football. But that

(01:52:51):
got me what watch listed, which is kind of it's
a it's a fucked up deal and to the whole
targeting program is it's it's insidious. It's like it's built
off of like Easterman saw the techniques to these the
U citizens spies and we had in the units sence

(01:53:11):
we have infantguard and like citizens like neighborhood watch groups
kind of that they co op into these things, and uh,
it's you know, it's pretty shitty when you get people
you know that and keeping tabs on you at twenty
four to seven and it's illegal, and like it's it's
pre crime, but they're trying to it's the pre crime,

(01:53:34):
and I haven't committed any crime, you know, I'll try
to do something positive. So I got considered I got
listed as a as a whistleblower for talking about CT.
I kind of I kind of became one of the
one of them. I was the only, the only like
actual football player at the time that was talking about

(01:53:56):
living with CT. I'd had some some brain scans done
and and uh, I had a doctor that had clinically
diagnosed me with CT, which officially you can't be diagnosed
after you're dead and they slice your brain up, but
which is ridiculous. I mean that should be able to
do it clinical diagnosis, especially with imagery two. So uh yeah,

(01:54:24):
so that I got kind of trolled, started gettrolled on Twitter,
and it was it was like a coordinated campaign to
like discredit me and to you know, like defame me.
It's like deaf maation campaigns campaign that goes on and
then and then it also happens around you in your

(01:54:46):
physical environment with with people that you're around. They they
try to sew your reputation, basically try to discredit you.
And I was hospitalized and they went, uh, well, that's
what led to the swatting. That's when I call it
out as a criminal conspiracy because they, uh, a school

(01:55:10):
resource officer went to my sister. Uh, and coerced her
to go to have me ecode, which is like they
have me evaluated like psychologically, and and then the process
is that that goes on. And then if if the
if the mental health assessor determines that you need you

(01:55:31):
know more, you know oversight, they can they can put
you on a seventy two hour hold, which which they did.
But like the school, the school resource officer coerced my
sister with her job. My sister was a principal one
of the schools in the school system, and she felt

(01:55:53):
obligated as a way to save her career or does
not harror harm her career, And so then she had
to go to her they had to have her do it,
you know, somebody from the family. She goes to a
magistrate and the magistate supervisor was one of my one
of my high school football coaches. He he supervised all

(01:56:15):
the magistrates southwest Virginia, like twenty counties or something like that,
and and his wife was the the oh deputy chief
of police at the time. She was directly over the
school resource officer. After all this happened, I contacted her
trying to trying to get in touch with the chief

(01:56:36):
of police, but I was put in touch with her,
and I asked her about how they had derived at
and received what they had considered evidence to to have
me evaluated, and she said that she'd have access to
it because we weren't friends on Facebook, which was a
fucking ridiculous answer. So then I asked her if she

(01:56:58):
if her subordinates had greater access to files and evidence
than she did, and if not, I could just drive
there because you know, it's only like two miles away,
and we'd sit down to go over whatever it was
with me and we have a conversation and and uh,
she gave me some some bullshit excuse and I said,
this is the second time in a year I'm gonna

(01:57:20):
have to contact the FBI to investigate somebody that's trying
to that that means me, that calls me harm. And
she hung up on me, which the Bogue servant that
seems kind of odd. I called back, thinking that maybe
my call, my call dropped, you know, like it did
with my phone died just did a little a little
while ago. Uh, same voice answer. I explained who I

(01:57:44):
was and thought that maybe my call had dropped. The
uh the call fun to drop the call and uh
hung up again. That was it was it was the
deputy chief that had answered the phone, mhm. And after that,
you know, things got weirder, and there was there was
then on one ship like disappearing moving around my house

(01:58:06):
outside like you know, loud noises like somebody like it
sounds like somebody came up and slapped the uh the
glass doors on my on my sun porch, you know,
one night, like three o'clock in the morning, through something
through something at the house, which it's it's it's way
back off the road, so they had to come up

(01:58:27):
close to the house to do so. Man. And then
that just just kind of kept happening. And then I
had moved to Nashville in twenty nineteen just because I
was afraid from my life in my hometown that had
the swatting thing that was initiated by folks from my hometown.

(01:58:47):
And and this was confirmed to when when I contacted
the like the head of the swat commander in New
Jersey about two weeks after all that happened, and that's
when it really sat in. You know, I didn't sleep
for like week and then like my neighbor jumped off
the bridge. There's a whole bunch of crazy ship right
right together there and uh and then like I went

(01:59:11):
to it went to establish a new general position, so
I get cat scans for for my concussion, like attorneys
that were assuming And as I'm leaving the doctors, like, hey,
what was the lasting I had had a tennis shot
and UH said it had been a while, So I

(01:59:31):
agreed to one and they gave me what's called a
tea DAP and uh the protesta sent apparently, I guess
caused my brain as well rapidly because I have had cephalopathy.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
And like two hours after I left the doctors, I
got I was home, I made some feat, I got
to go get something to drink, and I woke up
like three days later, face down laying across my bed
crossways and uh. It was in a delirium for like
the next ten days. And then, like with one Google search,
when I only got had like enough composure to be

(02:00:02):
able to sit down and and like try to logically
figure the ship out, I googled feed app and chron
tramatic cephalopathy, and uh, one of the first things that
pops up is anybody with it's risk of potential deaths
from from from Pretesta's it's uh, it's whooping off. I

(02:00:25):
would wouldn't live candidate for that ship anyway. Yeah, as
kids and old people it's crazy then that trigger parkinson
is and I like it fucked up, like the part
of my brain that was like with my balance and
stuff and haven't been like I was running you know,
running back and as a professional skateboarder like in my

(02:00:45):
late twenties, so like I always had great balance. And
after that I had used a cane for a while,
I mean over a year on off, and like because
it for the equilibrium, I get rodigo and uh so

(02:01:06):
so I went to the doctor about getting you know,
image of from my concussion doctors and wound up with
I'm a catastrophic brain injury from it in the video,
which seemed a little too you know, like convenient, And
there was a new doctor I'd never been to. It
was an odd thing and uh because I mean I
found it one Google search and I sat and talked

(02:01:28):
him forty five minutes about not just like treating symptoms
with the pharmacology, you know, try to address the underlying reason,
you know, and uh and then you know that he
that it's just he should have known that or have
given me the option of just the Tetnis shot without

(02:01:49):
the other ship in.

Speaker 3 (02:01:52):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
Yeah, So I wound up in Nashville for a better
part of the year. While I was working in downtown Nashville,
one night, this guy's like staring at me the whole night.
I was working the door and he comes up to
the door with the drinking's hand and it actually he's
gonna walk outside, and they're like leans forward like that,
and he goes, Now, I'm like going outside. You know.
It was kind of like he was, you know, fucking
with me and then h and he's like, yeah, I know,

(02:02:15):
you're just doing a job. You're shooting your job. And
then he turns around and flashes FBI credentials at me
and puts them away. And that said, well, what's what's up?
Because I just didn't town do an investigation, I'm like, oh, okay, anything,
anything I should know about him is lots of crazy
shit going goes out here in Nashville.

Speaker 3 (02:02:38):
And uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
And then he goes and then he walks away, and
he keeps staring at me and keeps staring at me
like I'm like, the F's going on?

Speaker 3 (02:02:45):
You know?

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
At the same time, I had published an article it's
like a five part series with Goodman Project, some men's
health magazine online and it was about you know, football
and CTE and some of the some of the ship
that had gone down with the SWAT team and all
that and just suppression of information and disgradation of as

(02:03:10):
a way to try to silence me. Know, it's called
the political abuse of psychiatry, as this is the terms like,
you know, silencing and a political dissident one on one,
you know, not a new thing, right, And it turns
out that, Yeah, in twenty twenty, I met this chick
who kind of interjected her way into my life. And

(02:03:33):
then like after the first time we hung out, she
showed back up my house with my phone like two
o'clock in the afternoon, and I couldn't find it. One
really big deal, and I figure it was probably somewhere somewhere.
I need to clean up the house a little bit
figure out where it was. And but phones started working
really weird after that, and when I confronted her about it,
and kind of persistently confronted her about it over the

(02:03:55):
course of say a week, she eventually broke down and
told me that she broke she broke cover told me
that she was an asset of the CIA, and that
she had been assigned to me as a handler and
this and who is this again? And is this there's
a chick in town that was working as a she

(02:04:18):
had the front as a as a realtor and and
it was she that wasn't her original her given name,
and she has about twenty five aliases, but she I
could send you some information about it and pictures and
stuff and doctor documentation like internal communications between she and

(02:04:42):
the senior security officer at the CIA talking about me
email and yeah, and she said when she when she
moved back to Virginia from Arizona, there was a dossier
like inch and a half thick with my name on
it for her at her mom's house. Apparently her mom

(02:05:02):
was c I worked for the company. So and she
had and and this chick had since she was she
had been an asket since she was eighteen, so at
least thirty years, probably thirty five years.

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
And so.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
Over the course of the next like a few weeks,
I just you know, kept asking more and more questions
and and she would, you know, she would stonewall and
like act like she didn't know anything, and then suddenly
she's like, just tell me a bunch of ship.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
Why do you think she was telling you?

Speaker 2 (02:05:38):
You know, she was in love with me.

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
I see, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
And that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
She had grown a conscience essentially, And so that was
just just just like I had hour throughout my life,
I had kind of feeling like something was amiss, you know.
And earlier that year I met her in September, In

(02:06:08):
like January of twenty twenty one, I made contact with
this other other woman that I was told by I
had met this guy in two thousand and five at was.
I thought it was a matter of two thousand and five.
That's as an adult. That's one. I met him when
I did in San Diego, and he and I became friends,
became like a mentor to me, and like even when

(02:06:30):
I moved back to Virginia after the shootings at Tech
to start this nonprofit, he kind of guided me through
the process of the nonprofit and just kind of he
mentored me, you know, And he was he had something
that he had he was he had been in the CIA.
It was part of the Phoenix two operations in Vietnam,
and he got wounded and written when he was in

(02:06:52):
Walter Read. He wrote the d D to see if
they were commissioned him to study the human potential movement,
which turned into the the remote remote viewing programs and uh,
like the movie mon Who Stared Goats, like the like
the Jeff the dude, Yeah, what's his name, Jeff Bridges.

(02:07:15):
His his character was based on my friend darryl Uh.
And Daryl died in like twenty sixteen maybe, but before
he died, he told me that that I would meet
someone that would that would take his place as my
guide and protector. And like he was, he was a
remote viewer and for very strong like psychic abilities and uh.

(02:07:42):
In twenty twenty, like an old friend, he called and
somehow she brought up her cousin was with her, and
the cousin was a fear and like some reason this
is I saw the one in my like in my
mind's eye, you know, it's got like an image. And
then and then I asked her if Daryl told me

(02:08:05):
that I would know this person because of it would
be a woman, and the fact that they had this
collection of kachina dolls, like you know, the Zuni like
characters like the spirit dolls, like you know, the different
like the thunder God and different things, And for some
reason it just popped in my head. I'm like, is
she to a collection of Kachina dolls? And my friend's like, yeah,

(02:08:29):
like a creepy, creepy big collection of them, you know.
So when I hang up the phone, her cousin asked
her is a Parkinson's And then Jody told me that
when she called me like the next day, kind of
give me an update on the reason she got me

(02:08:49):
the first time was her dog had run away and
she was just in crisis, and uh, she had me.
I asked for her cousin stuff phone number. I called
her that night and we became friends, and she told
me all about how Daryl had come to her in
the spirit form. She she was a medium and had

(02:09:14):
she had just shown up a couple of years prior
and and told him told her that, you know, asked
her to help me, you know. And it turns out
that she and I had been in the same program
as kids. It was an off shoot at the Stargate
program and where they where they were recruiting and trying
to find the Gate program, you know, where they're trying

(02:09:37):
to find kids with extraordinary gifts and they and they
feel the kids through the through the Gifted Talented programs schools.
And I had been taking because of some learning disabilities.
My parents had taken me to UVA to have me tested,
and I have justlexia and like ADHD and some other

(02:09:57):
like kind of visual processing stuff. But I also had
like a crazy high IQ. And it seems like like
that interactions started before that though, but they definitely there
was there was There was a weird conversation to have
with my dad that that that makes me think that

(02:10:19):
something significant happened about that time. But in nineteen eighty
there was a murder in my hometown and the guy
committed the murder was the first person convicted of murder
without body instead of jah And it was odd. He
had also played football tech and had been in the
waiting room with my dad that I was born, which

(02:10:40):
is just open odd coincidence, you know. But I met
this chick. It was the handler uh in the process
of helping the sister of the murdered girl look for
the remains of her sister in twenty twenty and they
found the family reins in twenty twenty one, with the
help of this doctor armand Voss, he created a machine

(02:11:05):
that would locate familial DNA through resident frequency. He found
he located the two Hills Angels guys On Manson Ranch
that was buried in the uh in the school bus.
The year of what I was kind of brought it
brought him to the Four Hunts and he worked on

(02:11:26):
the Casey Anthony case I thing. But so it was
a dinner dinner after a day showing them some stuff,
and we're had seen some stuff when I had been
a kid or when I was, you know, early twenties.
I found some human remains on our property at the
edge of the sinkhole, and we called the police, and
the police them away. They said they were sending to

(02:11:48):
the crime lab. The crime lab later said that they
never received anything. And I was told that it was
cow bones and compared to anatomy, and I, you know,
biology major in college and knew that was some bullshit. Yeah,
And it got weird.

Speaker 3 (02:12:02):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
I ended up moving away.

Speaker 1 (02:12:04):
So you think all of your experiences, even from the
very first high strange paranormal experience you had, maybe possible
that you were involved with some of these projects from
a very young age and it may have been part
of the experience, or do you think that that was
separate and maybe you were targeted through these projects because

(02:12:28):
you were having these experiences.

Speaker 2 (02:12:30):
What do you think? I think. I think it's kind
of well, I've been told that I was targeted because
of a whistleblower for CT and that's kind of what
after that five part thing from the the from the
with the Good project came out, like I literally started
getting followed back and forth. I go to Virginia back

(02:12:50):
but both, you know. And then twenty twenty, I also
had two profiles from the FBI command and profile me
in my home under the guy as a buying records
that I was selling. I used to have a record
store and I was selling off inventory and stuff. So lady,
we got admitted to be an FBI profile and yeah,

(02:13:12):
so which it was, you know, all kind of just
you and that I was asking the FBI for help
because the gang stop, you know, and uh and they
just ignore it. You know, is one of this a
guy that played played about four years behind me. That's
the that's the head of the uh, the the field
office here in Roanoke. I can't get him a return call.

(02:13:34):
This is odd, you know, you know, the but I
think that I had a presence in my life because
of the early programs and and and and eighty when
they were looking had been looking for the for the
for the body. Back then mind Reach had come in,
you know, from s R. S R i's Stafford Research Institute,

(02:13:58):
and they were looking for the body kind of also
running the probably running some some cover for in the press,
for other things that were going on, because I'm pretty
sure that that the murderer was actually an asset of
the CIA as part of their their drugs smuggling human

(02:14:20):
trafficking operation. And it seemed like the that the girl
she fought back, and an odd thing that her parents,
her dad also played football Ricinia Tech in the nineteen fifties,
and and and like one of one of his teammates

(02:14:41):
whose brother became a Virginia State senator, like brought the guy,
the murderer to meet the dad to talk to him
and like before the trial and everything like weird ship
man like and it's weird to to put like the
like the like the ghost spirit stuff that that happened

(02:15:03):
in finding the like he and remained and some of
the things that happened after that that that just seemed
like not that I'm like scout with like like long
hair attached to it and stuff. When I went back
down and double big around some more like like some
crazy ship and all that's all that all that evidence
disappeared had disappeared when I when I came back to
Virginia to help move all the stuff from that property

(02:15:23):
before the folks that bought it came in and bulldozed
and burned it the next day. And I had taken
doctor Voss up to the property there because he might
have been able to still locate something with you. It
depended on how close it was the surface of the

(02:15:44):
ground and where that where the sinkle had been. They
had raised the elevation maybe seventy five feet where they
brought in like debris and stuff to build it up
for no reason. It seemed that they probably spent a
million dollars, you know, just raising the elevation of that
and fill it in now, but we didn't didn't. He

(02:16:05):
did locate human remains on the property there, but it
didn't match the profile just just with the DNA.

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
So we've got a few minutes left. Have you had
any other recent experience? Is this still going on in
any capacity, whether it's the paranormal or gang stocking or
even other types of contacts with three letter agencies anything
like that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
Oh yeah, I mean I had a had a date
last night with somebody that I'm pretty sure is a
definite and uh, I mean the conversations, but it's always
it always tends to to run in the in the
in the conversational, like I'm going to tell you a story,
and the bits and pieces of the story are going
to pertain to you, and it's going to be it's

(02:16:50):
gonna be uh, I'm gonna be talking about things that
you need to be aware of, but but not directly,
you know. And that that's several of the people that
have turned out to be had and that since I've
had awareness of it, utilize double talk, you know, and
and and uh Ner linguistic programming, you know, as a
way to like influence you in a way. But that

(02:17:13):
was that's all weird and ship, you know, I had
several friends as far as the gang stalking all the times,
it's all the time. Every time I leave the house,
anytow we drive somewhere, I'm getting getting followed and tagged.
That you boxed in by idiots that that want to
hide their face when you go about and take a
picture of them and uh or just look at them

(02:17:35):
and yeah, it's kind of weird deal. Yeah, it's odd,
odd behavior. People that know they're doing something sucked up.
It's don't want to get called out for it. And
my house gets broken into a regular basis, things get
moved around, like it's it's all mind games of syops.

Speaker 3 (02:17:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:17:53):
I've had I've had that chick had poisoned me when
we were together, just when I was hanging out with
her trying, like I mean, as soon as I figured
out what was going on, Like I want to keep
request as I could to find out what the fuck
is going on? And you get her the answers main
questions as possible. I mean, there was a huge, like
list of people throughout my life that I question marks

(02:18:15):
about that just it's always just seemed too weird. You know,
they always answered the best friend and and you can
run most of them, so like, yeah, it's still on
a lot, but as far as far as the parent
normal stuff and that shit goes on a long time too.
It's it's, uh, sometimes it's hard to decipher n.

Speaker 1 (02:18:33):
Do you think that the early aspects of your of
your life, the early experiences were connected in some way
to your involvement with Stargate or mon Talk or m
K Ultra projects.

Speaker 2 (02:18:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, like you know, apparently you know
the the show. I was told by one of my
handlers in the last couple of years that the show
Strangers Things was based on the program that I was
in as a kid, and like like that I had
opened that wormhole when I sang just the frequency thing.
You know. I don't know, I don't know how the

(02:19:10):
hell it works, but I caught some other stuff on
my security cameras in the last couple years, and I
can send you if you want to film up on
the site with with with stuff. But it's it seems
like there's there's like this portal thing that opens like
like and something comes through it, but you can clearly
see it. It's like it's like rippling rippling water, but vertical.

(02:19:31):
And and then there's just weird ship man. I got
like this this shape shifter thing that we call the
skin walker, and it walks across the screen, disappears behind nothing,
and then reappears, and like every step it tastes, it
looks like a different animal.

Speaker 1 (02:19:47):
How do you deal with this on a daily basis?
Seems like you're on a constant roller coaster ride.

Speaker 2 (02:19:51):
Man, Well, I think that that. I think a lot
of that ship was was my my camera feed being
fucked with m you know some some of it seems
to seems to be like you know, manipulation targeting. Yeah,
just part of and as to further discredit because I mean,
you know, it's some weird going on like that I

(02:20:13):
can show other people. I'm like, check this shit out.
Tell me what you think in that way. It's not
U but you know, with AI and like all the
technology they have with c g I and ship, man,
it would be that hard like two have whatever moving
across the screen that they're pulling, like the bitmap pieces

(02:20:34):
from from an earlier shot, because the tones and stuff
would change dramatically and all of a sudden it would
just be like pixelated in the shape of a person
going through you know, Like that's some of the early stuff.
Lots of orbits and ship you know, which which I've
come to find is actually like can be infrared representation
of like microwave pulse energy directly the weapons, you know,

(02:20:59):
being and sort of hearing the ship causes the electronic
kind of cricket sound with with the people with a
DAMA syndrome, stribegit pray effect stuff. You know, man, that
is crazy. It's all I mean, it's all going.

Speaker 1 (02:21:18):
To damn.

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
About it like this.

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
Yeah, man, So, like I was saying, on a daily basis,
how do you deal with all this stuff? If you
just roll with the punches and.

Speaker 2 (02:21:29):
You know, hope for the best. Well, I mean some
days are harder than others. Like I've tried to come
to you know, just come to point with myself where
I try not to let it bother me. Just aame
time you go home and you discovered the door of
your vehicle, mean your vehicle, your house are sitting open.
You know you lock them when you left. That's that's

(02:21:51):
that's you know, that's gonna put you on edge a
little bit. But I paint, and I write music and
I make art. A lot of this started, like when
I was in two thousand and seventeen, I was working
on start working on a documentary called brain Slosh about
CT And they really don't want me to make that
fucking movie. Let me tell you that. I mean it's

(02:22:14):
because that that man, like I had four computers go down,
like a dozen or more phones. I've got Pegas. I've
got evidence of Pegasus on my phone.

Speaker 1 (02:22:22):
Yeah, like, man, incredible information. Tommy, thank you so much
for coming on. This was great and we'll definitely have
to dive back in in the future. I want to
hear so much more about your experiences and get your
insights into it before you head out. Is there anything
out there that the audience can find out more about you?

Speaker 2 (02:22:46):
Yeah, well yeah, I've got a got a a I
guess X space on x it's TD Tommy thirty three.
They're at t Tommy thirty three. And then got a
Facebook and Instagram touchdown Tommy Edwards. And then there's I

(02:23:07):
got a YouTube channel which uh I think I can't
remember what was what it's called, like Tommy Edwards like
two or seven eight or something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:23:21):
But send me if when you find it, you send
me message me the link and I'll put it in
the description so people can find it.

Speaker 2 (02:23:29):
We'll do awesome. And you know, and I got my
only fans paced man, uh, I got I got I
got all kinds of pictures of oscillating fans and ceiling
fans and uh some of them fans that clip on
your hat and and uh radiator fans, man, all kinds
of fans, nastar.

Speaker 1 (02:23:48):
Man right on. Many definitely check out the only fans.
That's awesome, Tommy, Thank you so much. Man. We'll definitely
be doing this again and until next time. Everyone, have
an excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow and we'll
see y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:24:04):
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