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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Today, I'm going to welcome back to the show Peter Kling.
He is author and researcher whose family has a five
hundred year history of standing for truth. He used his
education and life experience to unlock the secrets in the
Scriptures which the church has kept secret and hidden for
over a thousand years, including evidence of a history of

(00:26):
interactions with interer dimensional beings. Peter, welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Very good, Chris. It's a pleasure of being back. You know,
I had a fantastic time on your show last time
we got down and chat. Had actually had.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Quite a few people.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I was surprised at the response I had as far
as people requesting PDF copies of Letters to Earth, and
I'm still going to make that available cover that at
the end of the show. That's great, and yeah, it
really was. I was surprised how many people, you know,
actually said, hey, I want to copy that. I want
to read it. And thank you very much to everybody

(01:05):
who has asked for a copy. And I'll give you
the instructions on how to how to get your own
copulator or run on the show. But before we actually
before we actually get started, I didn't want to if
you're having a guest in a couple of weeks. Maggie
Heart and I have to want to give a shout
out to Maggie. She's she's a great person as far

(01:27):
in what she does. She's a great person period, but
she's excellent at what she does. And she has personally
helped me in a situation that my youngest son passed
away four years ago and somehow I lost two years
of that just because of the grief and the anger

(01:48):
that I had buried. And she actually, yeah, it's my
heart goes out to anybody who's lost any kind of relative,
but especially those who have lost chill her because part
of you dies when you lose one of your children.
You know, it's like half that child is half your DNA,

(02:09):
and it's like it's not there anymore. And I didn't
deal with that very good because you know, dealing with
the baby of the family. And Maggie actually did an
excellent job in having me comprehend the situation that I
put myself in and then uh, get me out of

(02:33):
it and have me recall that, you know, those two
years that I lost in my life just because I
buried so much grief and anger and pain and all
of those things. So hey, if you're dealing with issues,
get in touch with her. I've got her email here,
It's Maggie m A G G I E Underscore Heart
H G A R T at outlook dot com. You

(02:57):
can set up a private consultation with her and I'm
sure she'll be wasn't happy to help you with whatever
issues you need to overcome. Uh, you know she she
doesn't have all the letters after her name that that
that your standards, you know, social worker psychologist would have.

(03:19):
He's got something much better. She has a spiritual outlook
and a close connection to our creator and uses her
knowledge in that arena to address issues that we have
as opposed to well Freud said, yeah, so it's a

(03:40):
much more practical way way to help somebody. It's more
of a holistic healing. She she has a very great
holistic approach of both healing, not just the mind of
the soul too, which is very important today. So with
that being said, with that being and listen for her

(04:01):
coming up. I'm sure crystalll advertise everything. You'll see her,
no doubt. I'm all of your outlets. I guess in
about two weeks you'll be having her as again.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yes, yes, where are.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
We well, I'm looking forward to having Maggie. Thank you
for that introduction. This is going to be a continuation
of our last discussion about the connections between what is
unfolding right now and biblical prophecy. And you've been a
biblical scholar from a very young age. You have some
very unique interpretations about these ancient texts and prophecies and

(04:36):
how they connect to what we're seeing. And ever since
I've awakened to the false control system, I've kept a
close eye on the changes that are occurring. And although
every generation probably has an end of day's threat or fear,
or looming apocalypse or major shift, this feels reality altering

(04:57):
at times, and there are times I wonder if I've
gifted into an alternate dimension with the high strangeness that's
unfolding right now. So there's a lot going on, and
I believe last time we left off discussing the possible
upcoming chaos coinciding with elections, and earlier you mentioned you
wanted to get into a little bit of who is

(05:19):
really at the top and what we can do to
navigate through some of the chaos upcoming. So where would
you like to start today.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh well, let's work from the top down, all right,
But before we actually get into that, what we need
to do is be prepared for what is coming this way.
It's going to be a very difficult situation that we're facing.
And if you want to get a little insight on it,
read Matthew the twenty fourth chapter. It's all there.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
We will have a little bit of.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
A respite coming on, but not quite yet. What we
are actually having will be fulfilled before our very eyes.
Is we are between Revelation chapter sixteen and going into
chapter seventeen. Chapter sixteen, when you look at it closely,

(06:17):
it's the fall of the Kazarian mafia. And I will
explain that in a little bit. Chapter seventeen is the
rise of a Polyon, which essentially takes down the Kazarian
mafia and religion, all religion and religion. And I say this,

(06:39):
I've never been a religious person. I've been a biblical
scholar since my education started before I was five years old.
By the time I was five years old, I had
a total concept of what was written in the scriptures.
I couldn't read, but I was being read too, and
I had a very interesting book that was given to
me at that age, and everything was laid out in

(07:02):
the pictures, so I could listen to what was being read,
I could look at the pictures and I can get
an idea on what was actually happening. And by the
time I was five years old, I had a full
concept of what was written in the scriptures. Didn't have
an understanding of the scriptures, and certainly not the scientific
understanding that I built since then, But it's all there.

(07:25):
The issue that we are facing today is the deception.
There is deception in everything to find something that's actually true.
You know, even if you follow the truth or movement,
there's deception in the truth or movement. Why, well, we
can't let the enemy know what we really want to do. Well,

(07:47):
if the enemy knew the scripture is, they would be
able to know what you were going to do next.
And you know, we've heard this. It's a chess game.
You make a move, I make a move, and sooner
or later I've got you you and check me. And
there's also the multi multi level chess game. And that's

(08:10):
really what's going on, because this isn't just a chess
game between governments or or politicians. This is a chess
game that's being carried out on an interdimensional level.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Uh. And we've got really.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Three sides involved in this. We've got the Satanic Empire
which is currently ruling the events on Earth. And if
you don't believe that, go look at child trafficking and
what they do with children, and the adrenochrome situation and
all that other stuff that goes with it. And right
now Hollywood is breaking down. You're finding all your stars,

(08:50):
all your stars are involved, either as victims or as perpetrators.
So and so it self. You know you want to
be rich, you gotta sign your soul to Satan. Well,
that makes it kind of clear who you're working for,
doesn't it. So when we look at we go back

(09:13):
to Revelation twelve, we actually have a couple of beasts
which appear and one comes out of the sea. It's
a seven headed, ten horned wild beasts. Seven heads are
always symbolizing the seven world powers that have ruled this planet.
So it's what you said earlier. It's like every generation,

(09:34):
well not quite every generation, but every time that there's
been a shift in world power, great death has come
to this planet. And so we're getting ready for another
shift in world power. So in Revelation chapter thirteen, where
we have this beast that descends out of the sea,

(09:57):
the sea is the unstable elements, and that beast that
it sends out of the sea was a world power
first represented by the League of Nations. So who was
behind the League of Nations? You have to go back
to the Kavarian mafia. Who financed this, Who was actually
behind this? And something that will get you, something that

(10:21):
will get you in deep trouble. It did me when
I wrote Letters to Earth, was exposing the roots of
this Kavarian mafia, better known as the Learned the Protocol
of the Learned Elders of Zion. And so, believe it
or not, these are the same powers that were in

(10:41):
charge during the first century that actually were responsible for
putting Yesua or Jesus the Messiah to death. It's the
same political group. And this is a Babylony inspired empire

(11:03):
which we are still under today, both by what we
commonly called the Kazaria mafia and the Vaticans. And so
you have to look at the symbology, and that's being
used as something else. Who wrote Letters to Earth? Look
at the symbols that these organizations are putting forth and
they're all related to either the gods or you know,

(11:30):
a world entity, an off planet entity, and it always
comes to off planet entities. And it's interesting. More and
more I'm hearing from alleged whistleblowers that the Earth is
being controlled by aliens. Imagine that, you mean, would these
be the same Satanic aliens that we're sacrificing our children to? Now,

(11:55):
these are the same Satanic aliens that are we create
wars for. Yeah, they're the same ones that they used
to be called the gods. What God's demanded live child sacrifice,
you have to start to question that. And even though

(12:17):
that's essentially what happened to that the first son of God,
Jesus as we know him best, but Yesua, he was alive, sacrificed,
perpetrated by this same group of people. Now that had
to happen for a reason, so that we didn't have
a hope, And a lot of people don't quite comprehend that.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
But Adam, when he ate of that.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Fruit, and I'm totally convinced that there was a telomere
virus it was in that fruit, and so when he
ate of it, that telomeir virus snit our DNA in
half and attached itself to both ends and the amount
of telomeres, And this is important, going to be important
later on the amount of telomeres that we have connected
to our DNA actually dictate our lifespan. So if you

(13:08):
had twice as many telomeres as we do today, you
could expect to live pretty much twice as long. But
if you had ten times as many telomeres, so you
could live least hundreds of years before you'd actually pass,
maybe even get close to a thousand years, just as
what is recorded within the scriptures, because that's when we

(13:29):
look at the days of Noah, men were so bad
that those telomeres had to be shortened and so the
lifespan was shortened to approximately hundred twenty years at that time.
So we're going to see the reverse of that happen
as we go forward in time and as we hit
the real reset of not just this planet but the
entire cosmos. But who are the players? Okay, so we

(13:51):
have this one beast which is essentially the Kazarian Mafia,
which is are controlled by the Kazarian Mafia world wide empire.
It was the League of nations. It kind of got
vast during the Second World War, and we got the
United Nations after that. And what was the first thing
the United Nations did declare Israel estate? Well, how's that

(14:14):
working out for us now, you know, seventy five years
after the fact. Not too good? Why because it's obvious
that Israel is still is one of those nations controlled
by a Satanic empire. It's nothing purely short of Satanic.
And what's happening in Gaza, yes, and their main target

(14:36):
is children. Come on, we got to wake up to this.
So this is what we're all facing. We're facing an
empire bent on sacrificing our children to their alien gods
who are controlling this planet. Well, let's jump a little

(14:57):
fast forward here and we're going to hit sixteen because
there's all sorts of interesting things that happen in Revelation sixteen.
And first we know that this I digress here just
for a minute, just to go back to relation thirteen.
This beast which descends out of this sea is given
the throne of Satan. But think about that, the throne

(15:21):
of Satan is occupied by this political beast that is
running this planet, or has been running this planet, and
in Revelation sixteen, one of those bowls of that anger
from God get poured out onto the throne and that
beast's kingdom becomes darkened. And I don't know, you know

(15:46):
how close your listeners listen, but from what I understand,
what I've heard is the United Nations is almost on
life support and they're getting.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Ready to move it out of New York.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
And put it into the Far East. I forget exactly
where it's supposed to go. Quadlem floors somewhere out in
the Far East, it seems I did, didn't know, but
it's a place where you wouldn't expect it to be.
Let's put it that way. And that in itself is interesting,
and it's by its location because the seat of power

(16:24):
for the world is changing. It's also being taken out
of the Rockefeller in the rothschild hand.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, yeah, we see all those guys dropping dead too,
which is like party time.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
But yeah, fly flies on the floor, yeah, dropping dead
light flies and the ones that haven't dropped dead yet.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, I have to scratch your head and wonder about It's like, oh, righty, then,
so let's see who else is going. And so you know,
we see this power shift. We see this power shift.
But it's interesting when you read Revelation sixteen and these
different denunciations are being put out. They never repent. They

(17:11):
never repent, they get worse. So even though they're losing
their kingdom, the heads of this organization never repent, and
so they have to be hunted down and exterminated. That's
pretty much what it comes down to, or at least
treaties signed power, you know, money taken away. We have

(17:34):
got the great refset. Don't expect the great reset to
come until after we've had this near death of America,
and probably just not in America, but a good proportion
of the world. So we've had this experience, and it's
supposed to be considerably worse than nine to eleven. Well

(17:54):
nine to eleven was centralized to New York City, so
what would be like ten times worse, twenty times worse.
There's all sorts of possibilities, including California sinking into the ocean,
well not exactly sinking into the ocean, but Silicon Valley
being flooded out. And so how would you do that

(18:16):
major earthquake by the wave. You know that there's got
to be a reshaping. And so when we look at
what is going on logically and what the prophecies are
actually saying, we are headed for a difficult time. If you,
I'm just gonna your Revelations sixteen just for a moment's

(18:39):
here and actually quote quote a couple of things. This
is interesting. It this has to do with the relocation
here of of the United what was the United Nations.
But and a lot of people know this, and they've
been looking at this. It says in the sixth this one,

(19:00):
this is Revelation sixteen twelve, and the sixth one poured
out his bowl upon the great river Euphrates, and his
waters was dried up, that the way might be prepared
for the kings from the rising of the Sun. Well,
we see the Euphrates is basically dust, little trickle going

(19:20):
through the middle of what was once a great river.
And what have we seen in the last and fifteen years?
Have we not seen the rise of China? And now
that the yeah, I see the kings from the rising
of the Sun. You would think Japan, okay, well, Japan

(19:40):
was the land of the rising Sun. But the Kings
of the East. So we're seeing issues in Iran. We're
seeing issues in China. We're seeing issues somewhat with Russia.
But Russia might be a good guy legedly, not that
any of them are good because they're all still.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
On the wrong side.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Then we're issues throughout the Far East, but those are
all maybe resolved, you know, the rocket man in North
Korea and other unstable places there. But they're coming to
power like never before, especially China. You know, China was
a backwards it was a nuclear country, but it was

(20:21):
backwards pretty much up until the turn of the century.
And then all of a sudden, all of ourgans are
being manufafactured in China. Yeah, so you know that. There
you go. But thirteen is important. Thirteen says And I
saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogs. Makes

(20:43):
me wonder about Peppe anyway. Come out of the mouth
of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the
wild beasts, and out of the mouth of the false profits.
They are, in fact in expressions inspired by demons and
perform the signs, and they go forth to the kings

(21:04):
of the entire inhabited earth to gather them together to
the war of the great Day of God Almighty. But
it's interesting that they're gathering them together. They're not ready
for that day. They're gathering them together. And there's three
unclean expressions inspired by demonic forces. Could that be like

(21:27):
World War one, World War two, and oh a possible
World War three that we're facing. And if you've listened
to one oh seven, he says, we already won World
War three. I'm talking kinetic warfare, not the taking down
of a country economically, which is actually what's starting to
happen here in the United States. So expect the same

(21:50):
thing to happen here is what happened in Russia about
twenty about thirty years ago. But we're talking kinetic warfare here,
and so are we actually going to get to that point?
A little difficult to say, Maybe a possible limited nuclear exchange.
You know, we could say by bye to Washington, d C.

(22:10):
We could say by bye to the city of London,
and audios to the Vatican sooner or later. And that's
all prophesied, well, at least the Vatican end of that
is prophesied. But hey, there are three parts of the
same entity, so you could expect the same thing to
happen to all three of those cities. And for those

(22:31):
who don't know. Yes, that the Vatican, the City of London,
and Washington d C are independent city states and are
not obligated to the rules of the countries in which
they reside. And what makes it really difficult, especially for
the United States in England, is that those city states

(22:52):
rule the countries. The Washington d C. It's not part
of the United States. But damn they make our laws
for us, don't they said? Our policy for us, don't they?
And they're not even part of this country. Think about that.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
What are your thoughts on the wake up right? What
are your thoughts on the upcoming political theater in chaos
and what does that really mean for the true power
shift behind the scenes?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Okay, well, the political arena is, in my personal opinion,
is nothing more than entertainment. Come on, we got Biden,
who's been played by at least six different actors. So
who's controlling that? Well you hear, Oh, the Rockefellers are
controlling that. Okay, hmm, Well, let's see who's controlling Tyler

(23:43):
Perry's studios, considering Tyler Perry is allegedly no longer with us.
You know, this comes up over and over again. Kamala
Harris I've just recently heard that she was a masked imposter.
We just heard Victoria Neulan resigned her position. Well, the
scuttle butt is she's been executed for treason and so

(24:07):
as her husband. So are these stories real? Are they
not real? We'll find out eventually. But this is all
part of that that bowl of anger which gets poured
out upon the Satanic throne and the wild beast, this
one wild beast that sends out of the seas, the
United Nations, the League of Nations, that loses its power.

(24:31):
Now it doesn't totally go away, just loses its power. Well,
what power is coming on the scene. M Well, we'll
welcome a Pollyon. And you know, now we're kind of
without getting redundant, we're kind of like into the last
show that we did with the Sern possibly opening up

(24:53):
the dimension to Tartarus and releasing the Watchers and the
negative forces that would have a let's call it the
negative alien forces which were deemed necessary to remove from
the ten dimensional world in which we live into a
totally different, separate dimension unto themselves. So it's considering we

(25:14):
got the Mandela effect and turned cranked up twice in
order to find the Big Briggs hosting particle of the
God particle. History changed very little, but it changed, and
we can see that in all different places around the planet.
But what was most obvious for me is whoa what happened.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
To the lion?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's not laying with the lamb anymore. It's now a wolf.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
So where do the innerdimensional beings that were summoned through
this process? What are they? What is their role right now?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
A help take down the Kavarian mafia. You see, here's
the interesting thing, and this is where exopoptics comes into play.
And I'm going to digress here just a little bit. Jesus,
when he was on the face of the earth, was
tempted three times by Lucifer or Satan. And one of
those temptations he was taken to an unusually high place

(26:15):
and he was shown all the kingdoms of the world,
and he said, for an act of worship, all of
these can be yours. And Jesus said, go away, Satan.
It has written it is only fa they Aweh himself.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
That you should worship.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
And with that Satan left. But if the Satanic Empire
wasn't under Satan's control, how could he possibly have authored
it to Jesus. Now, the question is when we go
back to either the Book of Enoch or go back
to what's written within Genesis. When man grew a number

(26:53):
on the planet, the watchers or the sons of the
True God saw that, oh Earth, women were hot, and
so they took lives of themselves, all whom they chose. Well, now,
if Satan had control of the planet, wouldn't they have
had to cut a deal with Satan in order to
enter his realm of control and take it over for

(27:17):
an active worship. I'm sure they could get it too,
and that's no doubt what they did. And so they
fathered a completely new race on this planet known as
the netfil the mighty men of Old, the men of renown.
And these were truly giants, not nine ten, twelve feet tall.
These were giants that were fifty feet seventy five feet,

(27:42):
one hundred feet tall. According to it's a little bit
difficult because they used a different They measured in cubit,
and then you have to wonder, okay, well, how tall
could something get during that time period based on we're
not on the same we're on the same planet, but
it's not really the same Earth because the firmament was

(28:03):
intact in that water canopy that caused the Great Flood
hadn't come down, so Earth was less massive overall, and
that would give to a taller life form. To begin
with less mass, less gravity, you're going to be able
to grow taller. But how tall? Did They say? A
brontosaurus could never live in today's environment because his heart

(28:28):
would could never be strong enough to pump the blood
all the way up to the little pea brain that
they had. That could very well be true. They say
pterodactyls wouldn't be able to fly because there's not enough
pressure within the air to fill their wings. So you
know that those are calculations that don't really make a
whole lot of difference to me as far as just

(28:48):
the academic purpose. But things grew larger on this planet
once upon a time prior to the flood, and we
would have to guess that, yeah, these things were really big,
and not around it anymore. They got washed away and
destroyed in all that chaos, and any remnants of them
have been disposed of, excuse me, by the Smithsonian Institute

(29:13):
and whatever other museums felt it necessary to hide our history.
Once you hide the history, the true history, NA. You
can read write what you want. And they did. They
absolutely did you know. I was watching just a great
video on the continent of Mew and the continent of

(29:35):
Limoria and the continent of Atlantis, all which was eaten
by the ocean and sunk under the sea. And it's like, well,
wait a minute, where's the evidence or any of this
in Atlantis? At least you've got something that was written
by Plato. But you'll never guess unless you unless you
saw this video, because I had no idea. I just
thought it was Wow, what a fantastic idea. Where did

(29:57):
the name Lemoria come from? Do you have any idea?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
It sounds like it would come from Lemur.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
You're one hundred percent correct, ding ding ding ding ding, Yes, yes,
it came from a scientist that back in the eighteen
hundreds that said, why are there Limas in Madagascar?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Why are there Limas in India? And why are there
LeMans in Indonesia. There must have been a landmask to
connect them all. WHOA, We'll call it Lemoria.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
That's the evidence.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
It makes sense.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
That that's the evidence.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Lomoria.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh well, it must have been a great civilization at
that time, and God felt the need to destroy it.
Well we do have, yeah, isn't that crazy? And so
Madame Leblotski jumps on on that bandwagon and all the
psychics of the late nineteenth century get involved in this,
and they create these stories about these past civilizations and

(31:00):
it becomes written to our history as fact, and there's
no fact to it other than stories that people invented,
with the impossible exception of what was written about Atlantis. Now,
in my personal opinion, I think Atlantis is really Antarctica.

(31:23):
That's just the personal opinion. If you've melted all the
ice in Antarctica, you would find ancient alien technology which
would be unbelievable to us today, and no doubt, because
the scriptures are clear that life was genetically engineered on
this planet and evidence would show that. I mean, go

(31:48):
back to the Cambrian period. There was such an explosion
of life on Earth that we've only had extinction level
events since then. Now, if you want to know the
true age of Earth, every time you've crossed the galactic equator,
expect an extinction level event to hacken. So that would
be once about every thirteen thousand five hundred and six

(32:08):
hundred years something like that, you're going to have some
kind of something happened on this planet which is going
to for a great loss of life. So is each
cycle a creative day? I honestly don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Does it matter? Nope?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
You know what matters. We're crossing the galactic equator. Now
we're done crossing it. We're supposed to be in the
middle of it, somewhere around twenty twelve twenty thirteen when
they found the God particle and we got the Mandela effect,
and it took a number of years. It's not like
you're just walking across the equator of Earth. You're traveling
through space here, and it's taken at least if we say,

(32:50):
let's say twenty twelve was the halfway point where things
started to change on this planet, was around nineteen ninety nine,
and so let's say thirteen years before, thirteen years after,
which still gives us another year or so before everything

(33:11):
really starts. And not to mention, you've got to reply
by Naburu or Planet X supposedly coming by at the
same time. Life on this planet ought to be fun.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, well, while we're talking about these cosmic forces, while
we're talking about these cosmic forces. Do you think there
is any correlation or significance with the upcoming eclipse?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
My personal opinion of the eclipse, it's a natural event.
It happens every year somewhere on planet Earth. I'm fortunate
enough to be right underneath it as it goes by
this year. I haven't seen a total eclipse or sold
eclipse rather since I was a child, So I've got
to go get my specialty glasses and check out. But yeah,

(34:01):
where we are, we're total lunar eclipse here. We're damn here,
getting smack in the middle of where we were actually
going to cross over as a zero ground zero essentially.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You mentioned Naberu and Planet X, and there have been
researchers that have been telling us to look to the
skies for this celestial body for years and we haven't
witnessed anything. Do you think that this is a possibility
that we may eventually see this rogue star in our sky?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yes? I do.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
And I was a.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Big opponent of Planet X since I you know, since
Ditchens days, except when I got to we look at
Malachi chapter four, Versus one through three. Actually it's verse three.
I'll quote the whole thing, or as closely as they can.

(35:02):
I'll paraphrase it. It says, the day is coming that
is burning like the furnace, and to the wicked and
the presumptuous, they will become as chaff, and neither root
nor bow will be left of them. But those of
you who have, in different versions and different things, have
fear of my name or respect of my name, referring

(35:24):
to our creator by the ahwah Yahua, He who causes
to become.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
You will be that.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
This here's the here's the naboo part. The sun of righteousness,
with healing in its wings will make you strong and
like young fat and calves who go par in the ground.
You know, your young bulls, you know getting feel on
his oats. He's pour on the ground. He's getting ready

(35:54):
to challenge the big guy. And it goes on to say,
and your enemies will become like dust to your feet.
So the question is, how does one event have two different,
totally different outcomes. To the wicked and the presumptuous, they're gone.
But to those of us who have respect for God,
our creator, we are healed. And it's tied into this

(36:20):
sun of righteousness with healing in its wings done with
wings h probably about fifteen years ago, maybe a little
bit longer. I was actually watching and it was the
Discovery Channel, and they were talking about what the atmosphere

(36:41):
was like on the different planets in our Solar system.
And one of the things that I was totally shocked
by is they talked about a brown dwarf star. Why
would they bring up a brown dwarf star? And they said,
it actually rains iron on a brown dwarf star, and

(37:03):
that iron oxide is dumped out, you know, like you
know the Sun has its moments where we get doused
with solar flares. Well, on a brown dwarf star, it
doesn't spit out you know, hydrogen and helium burning masses.
It blows out iron oxide or rust. And the thing

(37:25):
about a brown dwarf star, it's an iron star. It's
it's its last stage of life. And could it be
out there coming for us? Yeah, you can't deny it.
And because you know, they throw truth into everything, and
why would they cover a brown dwarf star when they're

(37:46):
talking about the atmosphere on different planets within our Solar system?
Makes you wonder, doesn't it? So you look for the
truth were you don't expect to find it, and that's
usually where it is, in a place where we don't
expect it to be right. And that's that's what's happened
with the Bible. We've had so much of this legend

(38:09):
that these stories that whether it's the Ananachy or you
know that the gods of the Egyptians or whoever you
want to call them, as you know, people from Limoria
and the Lamours are attacking I don't know, but you know, seriously,
though we have the graves, we've got the you know,
the short grays of tall grades of Nordics, that we've

(38:31):
got people from all sorts of different places, and we
don't know whether they're really here or not. We're told
that these aliens are here. We see some sorts of
evidence that something's here. But one thing we know is
for sure, by the way that people are acting, this
planet is being controlled by very sinister forces and by

(38:55):
the technologies that we've been given legend. We have some
very advanced techno and again it goes right around these
technologies were, in my personal opinion, based on what we've
been able to decipher, some kind of realization of history.

(39:16):
Child sacrificing was adopted by the Nazis in the SS.
I'm not going to say that that Hitler was exactly
part of it, because I don't think that he knew
whether he's coming or going while he was in power.
They kept him pretty well sedated. But I'm sure a

(39:37):
different factions were well aware of that. And we're working
with alien entities, and I think that the majority of
them wound up in Hello, Antarctica. It all goes back
to Antarctica. Whether it was Atlantis or whether you know
it's a time capsule. Antarctica is a time capsule. And
we've got evidence of mass structures, pyramids or temples that

(40:03):
that people can't figure out how they actually carved these
temples out of one big hunk of rock, you know,
and that they're just amazing that with the technology that
was used, or even that the megalithic structures that have
been put up in the way that show stones are shaped.
How do you know when you get into the the
Andes Mountains in Tumapenko and different places like that, you

(40:26):
look at where did this technology come from? They we
can't do it today and they were able to do
it back then. Advanced alien life. Once the Bible is
full of the record, it's all there. They're all part
of the Satanic Empire except for a pollion. Now, it's

(40:47):
interesting the watchers in the Book of Enoch fell in
love was earth winded, and that they at least wanted
to create a family with them all that they could,
and so they at least they had some regard for
the human species, as opposed to the Satanic Empire, which

(41:09):
just looks at us as a bunch of slaves.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Okay, so our women were breeding. Stop. But they had
a totally different view of humans back then as to
what is actually happening today. So if that pit of
the Abyss was open, and Apollon has now taken power,
and we have every reason to believe that he would

(41:32):
based on revelations, both Revelation nine out of chapter nine
and chapter seventeen, and this coalition that's actually happening. Now,
we did see this when Trump was in power. What
did he do? He went on world tour. Right, So
when we look at what is actually written, this kingdom

(41:57):
of a Polyon, which is actually the eight kingdom, it
springs from the seven. Now, the interesting thing is when
you count the kingdoms. Prior to this, you have Egypt
to Syria, Babylonia, Meto Persia, Greece, Rome, and the last

(42:18):
world power is the Anglo American world of power that
gets head for three hundred years in England and the
United States has ruled the seas of the world. And
the eighth king comes from the seventh one. Interesting, and
so we got to see Trump doing the sword dance,

(42:41):
a dance that is only reserved for kings, didn't we
And what's Trump's main focus. It's to take down the
Kazarian mafia, to set America free, to re establish our constitution,
to set the whole world free. Once we can get
free from this, we can help other countries break free

(43:03):
from this. Right. That's been the narrative, you know, the
whole Patriot movement. And now we're facing a fight. We're
facing We're facing a fight against the Kauzarara Mafi who's
flooded our border with immigrants, who's not just sent immigrants,
but probably soldiers United Nations soldiers in under the guise

(43:26):
of immigrants, illegal alliens, you know, the walking kind of
the flying kind. And so we're being set up, we're
being set up for something very, very serious, which is
probably going to come to a neighborhood close to all
of our listeners here tonight. And so that's what we

(43:47):
need to be most prepared for right now. People saying, oh,
you got to get out of the stock market buy
silver and gold, Well, I don't know a whole lot
of people that are personally in the stock market. I
haven't been in it in years, and being retired here
at this juncture, there's not a whole lot of wiggle

(44:07):
room on what the government. But here's the thing. You
cannot eat gold. You cannot eat silver. Okay, now you're
gonna argue with me mont monochronaic, Yes you can ingest it.
You can't. You can't ingest silver in solutions and they
are beneficial that they will help you, but you can't

(44:32):
live on it. So what can you live on? Hey,
I just bought another fifty people, Well, I'm sorry, another
twenty pound day of rice the other day. Yeah, put
your stores together. If I had and I don't endorse products,
but if I only could buy one thing, it would

(44:55):
be a life straw. It's we'll fit in your pocket.
It's a little toobe with a mouthpiece on it, and
it will clean out ninety nine point nine nine percent
of anything any contaminous to watch you drink. Yeah, that
would be the number one thing that I would buy,

(45:16):
because you could walk into a puddle, up to a
puddle in a Walmart parking lot and drink the water
out of it if you had to.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
So, no going back to I want to go back
to Trump for a minute. To me, I see, all
these high level players are filling a cosmic role. They
are performing a theatrical role for what they are supposed

(45:44):
to introduce our collective consciousness to and what's supposed to unfold.
But my question is do you think that these people
are aware of this or are they just doing what
they believe is best for what's supposed to be society.
Do you think that they are aware of the spiritual

(46:06):
level of what's unfolding.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I think some of them are aware. It's interesting when
you actually read what's written in Revelation seventeen. They are
carrying out God's will, whether they know it or not.
They're doing God's will, and God's will is to get
rid of the Kazarian mafia and take down religion. They

(46:30):
work hand in hand. Religion has not served anybody. It
hasn't tell me one good thing that's come out of
the Vatican. Yeah, and Islam is just another version of Catholicism.
As a matter of fact, it said, based on what

(46:51):
my research was, the Church created Islam. But look at
their symbols. Why is Islam symbol a crescent moon and
a star. Oh wait a minute, that's the sign of
isis isn't it. Or better yet, they are Samaramus, the

(47:12):
queen of ancient Babylon, ancient Samaria, And so they're still
worshiping these ancient alien gods.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
So these aliens.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Actually set themselves, or these interdimensionals, set themselves up as
God's over us because we didn't know any better, and
we allow. Wow, look at the magic tricks they can do.
Look at the stones that they can levitate. Wow, you
know they say the magic words, the stones levitate and

(47:44):
people push them into place. That's how that was built. Huh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
So we should rather have an understanding of this apocalypse
as being an end of religion instead of the end
of the world.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Oh yeah, the world's going to be here, but this
planet is not going anywhere. What we are going to
see is the end of religion. Religion's got to come
down so it does not serve mankind. It's been at
the my own family because you know, five hundred years
ago we supported Martin Luther in the revolt against the Church,

(48:24):
and for that we were hunted down for over two
hundred and fifty years. The family history is they killed
us wherever they could find us, whether it was in
the field and the streets, are in our own beds.
You know, it's a boy that's awful Christian, thank you.
What about the Reformation? You know, what about the Inquisition?

(48:45):
Before the Reformation and after the Reformation. How many people
were burnt the stake just because they read the Bible
or they had a copy of it? You know, the
last the only thing that you could turn around and say,
in our more modern history, there was a book that

(49:07):
you could get killed for. In Soviet Russia, especially right
after the Bolshevik Revolution, if you had a copy of
this book, it was a death sentence. If it wasn't
a death sentence, you could expect it well one way
or the other, because if you forefound with a copy
of it, if they didn't just kill you, you were
going to be sent to a concentration camp of gool
i and spend the rest of your life working in

(49:28):
assault mine or worse. And that book is alleged to
be a plagiarized forgery. I mean, I don't see how
that actually happens, but that's what they make, the claim
that it was a forgery and it was plagiarized. Well
wait a minute, that makes no sense at all. But regardless,
the name of the book is the Protocol of the

(49:49):
Learned Elvis of Zion, and I wrote about it in
Letters to Earth, and so that they tried to get
rid of me. And yeah, it was amazing. My My
first interview was in New York City. I was on
the stage at the UBC Theater and I was being
interviewed by at least one of the members of the

(50:10):
Kazarian Mafia, the producer of the TV show Monk, and
I was surprised at how fast that they were able
to read that book. It was him and a co host.
They rent that book and they asked me questions that
I was shocked that they were asking me about. And
I was like, there's no way that they read the
book that fast, but yeah, they did. And after that

(50:30):
I couldn't buy an interview. I couldn't buy an interview
of what you're seeing coming across the History Channel. Anything
to do with conspiracy, anything to do with the aliens,
anything to do with our ancient history was taken from
Letters to Earth and I never saw a dime from it.

(50:52):
But I sent them a copy of Letters to Earth,
one with the CD which explained everything. And about five years,
six years later, when my publicist contacted and I got
a phone call. They know who you are. They know
who you are, Like, oh, wow, which day you know?
And so I called him back if that was the message,
And so I called him back up and I said,

(51:14):
you know, he told me the same thing, they know
who you are. Like, okay, which they are? They the
History Channel. I talked to the president of the History Channel.
I said, we've got to I've got somebody who have
to have on one of your shows. He's the author
of Letters to Earth. And the president of the History
Channel said, you mean Peter Kling. Yeah, that's the guy.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
So you know, here's the crazy thing. I've been in
this interdimensional fight for the last fifty years. I had
alien contact when I was eighteen. They told me they
were going to kill me. Nice, Why would they tell
me that, Well, that's the show in its own right.
But and but my life isn't important to everybody else

(51:57):
in their life. I'm just the messenger. Oh, the messenger
that knows the truth. Huh, wouldn't that be a reason
enough to kill you? Look what happened to the whistleblower
from Bowling the seven eighty seven dream the seven eighty
seven Dreamliner. And yes, to give my bird it's actually

(52:18):
a clock. So anyway, Yes, it's things that different birds
tune every hour, which is kind of interesting. We had
one that was a loom that you know, gave a
loon call out, but that one, unfortunately it has passed away.
So we have one that has different birds, twelve of them. Anyway,

(52:40):
it's hard to digress. That was what you just heard
in the background.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's all right now. I wanted to get your thoughts
on the possibilities of people that we could even be
interacting with on a daily basis that may have been
part of a hybridization program. And if there is, if
there has been a hybrid disease program ongoing to integrate
some of these inner dimensionals into a human that could

(53:07):
be walking amongst us.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Very possible but what's more likely is that these people
have gone through a Satanic ritual which allows them to
be possessed by what we call arkans, higher level entities
that are ruining this planet. You go back to the

(53:36):
Book of Daniel Daniels waiting for message from God, and
he's not getting it. He's been praying and not getting it.
Finally Gabriel shows up and says, sorry, I'm late, but
I was fighting with the Prince of Persia and he
wouldn't let me pass. So I had to go get Michael,
the foremost one of your people, to fight with the
Prince of Persuel so I could deliver the message. And

(53:58):
he says what he gives the message and he says, okay, well,
I got to go back and fight the Prince of Persia,
and look, the Prince of Greece is coming. So that
means what there is the Prince of Rome, and there's
a Prince of the United Kingdom, and there's a Prince
of the United States, and a Prince of Russia, and
a prince of every principality on this planet all into

(54:19):
dimensional So what right has gone have they gone through
to give that? When they sold their soul to satan
and what did they allow to take possession of their
body or whom did they allow to take possession of
their body. Princess Diana and her memoirs allegedly called the King,

(54:41):
the Queen of England and her consort, Prince Philip as
repes why because they could shape shift into reptile looking feelings.
So yeah, you see, you wouldn't necessarily know it unless
they were having a kind of a difficult time. The

(55:01):
fifth element. I don't know if you've seen that movie
where people have ulous to see them great movies. You know,
remember the scene when when they're all trying to get
to the resort. There got the end of the resort,
but they're going to the space center and finally that
the mangaloids come and you know, they look like you know, humans,

(55:24):
but they're having trouble keeping their shape and they keep
on reverting back. Yeah, well, you know, you get them upset,
and that's probably what's going to happen. Say the name
of Jesus in their presence, yes you are, or even better,
stay the name of Yahweh or Yehua and watch what happens.
There's power in those names and why those names are

(55:48):
important to us. It establishes our connection back to our
creator and his firstborn son, who ransomed his soul in
order to pay that cost of the perfect human DNA.
And so that's kind of like where we're at is

(56:08):
we get religion. It's going to come down to everyone's spirituality.
What do you believe at your core? And like I say,
there's no atheists in Foxhols that we're in the middle
of a war. It's going to get worse before it
gets better.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Well, for the last few minutes, let's discuss how it's
going to eventually get better, what we should expect, and
how we can contribute to the inevitable victory that we'll
have because we know in the Bible the good guys win.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, and not only do we win. Well, you see,
first of all, you got to step back. It's not
our fight. Okay, it's not our fight. This is an
inter dimensional war, and there's no way we can win
an inter dimensional war. But we're going to what we
can expect to have happened is we're going to see

(57:06):
all this nonsense in the United States breakdown, and we're
going to see a return to the old Constitution of
the United States. We'll see that happening across the world.
We'll have a short time of what might be considered
peace and security.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
They may just rule.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
We'll have an economic reset, so everybody's going to go
through a real difficult time, and then we're going to
all be fat, dumb and happy and have money in
our pockets and think, well, oh we're doing great. And
so that gets and that will essentially take us into
the downfall of religion as well. I said, how do
you get rid of a religious empire? Let the children speak.

(57:46):
Let the children speak, and then we'll find out exactly
just how satanic the religious empire on this planet is.
So once that's taken down, the next step is they
get ready for a battle, an interdimensional battle. You know,
we might be joining your group, like the Federational Planets.

(58:09):
You know it's going to be one big scion to
get everybody on board. Well, we got aliens attacking us, We're.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Going to have to fight back.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Well, if it's not your fight, stay out of it,
because yes, we're going to be facing an interdimensional war.
Probably at the same time as that, we have a
poll whip, and we also have the pass by a
naburu or a planet acts within that same timeframe, because
the Earth is going to be rocking and and rolling,

(58:38):
and it's only through our personal connection back to our
creator that we're going to be able to survive any
of this. Acts the second chapter we could get to
a real Bible translation that uses God's name acts. The
second chapter, verse twenty one says everyone calling on the
name of Yahweh or Yahua that's the ancient Ebrews or

(59:00):
Jehovah what we use today shall be saved. It doesn't
say one saved, always save. It doesn't say, oh, believe
in God, you'll be good. Call on the name of Jesus. No,
everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah shall be saved.
Simple So when you're faced with your worst nightmare, call
on the name of God, call on the name of Yallah.

(59:22):
Call on the name of Jesus. At least look towardnate
that connection. Take that birthright that we have as descendants
of Adams and as the descendants of the Creator itself.
We have a birthright, and Jesus death ensured that birth rate.

(59:45):
Once we make it through this time period, the earth
will have that thousand years a piece. Look, I'm going
to be sixty eight in a couple of weeks. I've
been doing this for a very long time. Do I
believe I can live for a thousand years? Yeah? You
know why, because just keep on adding to our telemars

(01:00:08):
and we get younger and younger and younger, and then
finally one day we will have our DNA totally repaired,
totally healed. The possibility is there. We're dealing with genetics.
We're dealing with the people who invented genetics, genetic engineering.
The life forms, they say people, it's actually the life forms.

(01:00:28):
And that brings us right back to our creator. Do
we are Adam was a direct creation from Yehoa by
the Yahweh? Only us and Jesus works direct creations. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
So the way that the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
You know, the line of order, there's Yahweh Jesus and
you and me and the rest of us who make
that claim. That's it. You don't need a priest, you
don't need a rabbi, you don't need any men and
emm or any member of the clergy to get between
you and your and our creator. We may need help,

(01:01:07):
we may need from time to time, we may need
to learn not get accurate knowledge. If you're having difficulties
trying to figure all this out, give Maggie Hart a call,
trust me can send her an email To'll be more
than happy to help you. See works great on a
personal level, on a one to one basis, But as
far as what we need to be prepared now, prepare

(01:01:29):
for the worst disaster ever and pray for the best outcome.
That's what we're going to be facing. So water, food,
whatever supplies that we can afford. Hopefully everybody's been preparing
right along. I started prepping almost twenty years ago because

(01:01:50):
I knew what was coming, and I've talked about this
time and time again. So we need to be prepared
for disaster. Glad you got gold. I'm glad you have silver.
Glad you moved your money out of the stock market. Now,
what does your refrigerator look like? What does your cupboard
look like? What food stores do you have? And it

(01:02:13):
makes it difficult for especially for older people on a
fixed income. They'll buy yourself an extra bag or rice.
When you go to the grocery store, buy an extra
canis sardine. I hate sardines. They'll keep you alive. Direct
protein and calcium. It will last forever. You know, buy
a couple of canvas spam I hate spam?

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Good this delete and spam from nineteen forty five in Hawaii.
It's vintage. Yes, the spam is the national need of Hawaii.
And that's because the World.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
War two, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
You know it's we may not be able to get
that pilet migniona or you know, have a good lobster
dinner if you like lobster, or whatever the case might be.
But we will be able to survive through this. And
when we get that little rest period and you know
that they fill our cauthors with money, don't go crazy.

(01:03:10):
Be prepared for more to come, because there's a lot
more to come. But when it all comes down to it,
the only way we're going to survive this is if
we make that personal claim right back to our creator.
It's a spiritual war. It's a biblical war. You might
as well follow the biblical laws and the most important

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you know, when Jesus was asked what's the most important commandment?
What did he say? You must love they aheah your
God with your whole heart, stole and mind. And the
second like it is that you must love your neighbor
as you do yourself. Okay, so your heart, your soul,

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and your mind, your logic, you're emotional, and your very being.
Make that connection. It's one in love. Never said you
got a worship. He said you had to love your God.
The second to love your neighbor. Why because we are
all related, well, most of us are all related.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Chances are not too many of us live next to
the Rothschilds or you know, the the Duke of windsor
or whatever other you know the rockefellas some of us might,
but I doubt we know them personally. We'll probably better
off for right. So yeah, it's a spiritual connection and

(01:04:36):
that's what we need when it's a biblical war that
we're lost.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Yeah, with that, we win. It's just that simple.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
We win. So yeah, we need that spiritual connection if
we want to win. What is coming our way?

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Perfect to Peter and Uh before we close out, remind
everyone if they'd like to find out more about you
and Maggie how they can do so.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Well, if you you can always write me. It's one
O n E at Peterkling dot com p E T
E r k l I n G dot com and
The book is Letters to Earth. You can survive arm again.
Write me. I will happily send you a PDF copy
of it. If you want to get a hold of

(01:05:33):
Maggie for some spiritual cow hey, it doesn't matter whether
it's spiritual or not. You have any family issues, you're
having personal life issues, get a hold of her. She
is so good, she really is. I can't sing her
praises enough. And that would be Maggie M A G
G I E underscore heart h E A R T

(01:05:56):
at outlook dot com. And she'd be more than happy to,
you know, help you through any situations. Just send her
a quick email, send her your phone number, ask you
please give you a call at her earliest convenience, and
just a description, a short description of what you really
need help with, and she'd be more than happy to
do that. So you know, she does charge. She does

(01:06:19):
charge your fee for her time. It's very nominal and
the results are outstanding. I promise you will totally appreciate
the results that you get. I did so with that, Chris,
I want to thank you for having me on your show.
Look forward to the next time. We'll do an update
in a month or two or whatever. You'd like, you

(01:06:40):
know how to reach me and we'll continue this conversation.
And I wish you the best on the interview that
you have with Maggie. You'll see why I say what
I do once you do that interview. So all listeners
please watch for that interview. It'll be in a couple
of weeks. And with that to say, love and blessings

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to all have a fantastic day, week, year, and a
fantastic life.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Thank you so much, Peter. We're definitely gonna do this again.
And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all. Then, today, I want
to welcome back to the show writer Lee. He is
producer and host of Raised by Giants, which provides a

(01:07:28):
platform for researchers, spiritual teachers, authors, contactees, and experiencers to
come together and communicate their studies, observations and ideas, infusing
them into common everyday knowledge with new understandings of life
and the universe. Writer, welcome back. How you doing doing great?

Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Chris? Thanks so much for having me on. I appreciate you, brother,
It's been a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
It's been a minute, but you are back. Always a
wonderful conversation. Today, we're gonna jump back into the work
that you've been doing on your ongoing UFO cult series,
and this is what the world needs right now because
the UFO, the truth community, the conspiracy community has really
been wilding out a little bit too much lately. We've

(01:08:13):
got to reel some of this back. We get everything
from UAPs to d W's Baby. The truth is out there,
but it may not always be what it seems. So
we're gonna examine some of the most insane aspects when
it comes to UFO cults in the past and take
a look at some of the things that are going
on right now, some of the things that are unfolding

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and people are most likely misinterpreting to very high levels.
But before we do that, for those that may not
be familiar, writer, just remind the audience just a little
bit about yourself and Raised by Giants.

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
Yes, sir, I have a YouTube channel, rock fand channel,
all of the different alternative platforms, all the podcasts I'm
on the Forbidden Knowledge News Network. My show is called
Raised by Giants, and I am currently doing a UFO
cult series because I think it's really important, especially now
that people realize where these thoughts and these ideas come from,

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and they all come from the things that are being
talked about in the community always come from a source.
There's always someone that talked about it before. There's nothing
new under the sun, right, And that's what I decided
to do. I was like, Okay, well, where does these
guardian race theories come from? Where do all these extraterrestrial

(01:09:36):
theories come from? That there's all these that the universe
is so populated, and that that extraterrestrials are going to
land any minute. It's going to be tomorrow, it's going
to be next week, it's going to be next month,
next year, you know. And I went back and I
started studying all of them and researching them, and then
I just decided to put a series together. And it's

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really interesting when you go back and you because the
earliest UFO cult that I have found it is called
the Cult of I Am That came from Guy and
Edna Ballard here and their cult. Everyone has heard of
the I am phrase, right, It really comes from the
Bible when Moses was supposedly talking to God and God

(01:10:19):
says I am that I am, And that has been
regurgitated within the spiritual community and everything a lot, right,
Everyone talks about the presence of I Am. You know,
you gotta embody that presence of I Am Baby, that
I'll send you into the fifth dimension through the Porto
all of the sun, right, And they talked about a

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lot of that New Age stuff along with Saint Germaine here.
And this is one of the pictures that actually came
from the im Ufo cult that was created that has
been regurgitated. This is one of the most famous pictures
of Saint Jermaine and is still being used today. And

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it came from this I Am Ufo cult. And the
thing about this cult that's different from some of the
other cults was that this one is a very patriotic cult. Literally,
you could replace Guy and Edna Ballard here with Trump
and JFK. Junior and you have the entire QAnon conspiracy.

(01:11:27):
That's literally all you gotta do. It's literally the same
exact thing that Saint Jermaine here has a gold trust
that he is going to take over the United States,
install a new government, overthrow the current government. The ascended
Masters Jesus and Saint Jermaine is going to take over

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the United States government, and apparently Guy Ballard actually met
Saint Jermaine physically at Mount Shasta in California, where Saint
Jermaine took him all around the world as lucient. No
one can see Saint Germain besides Guy bore Right, and
Saint Germaine took him all across the world, took him

(01:12:08):
to different countries, and they Saint Germaine even took him
to the White House. Saint Germaine took Guy Ballard from
this I am UFO cult to the White House to
meet with the white hats back in the thirties to
overthrow the government and install and take out the banking,

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the banking cartels, and eliminate all the poverty and shepherd
us into this new golden age of humanity. The stuff
was being talked about back in the thirties with this
called I Am called Guyan Edner Ballard here and then
you fast forward a little bit well. Also, Saint Germaine

(01:12:53):
apparently gave Guy Ballard seventy years worth of visions as well,
and he also claimed to be reincarnated George Washington as
well as you do when you're a part of a cult.
Every one of these cults has to be some important
historical figure. A lot of them claim Jesus and Buddha

(01:13:14):
and Moses and Akanat, like the Order of the Suller
Temple called in Geneva, Switzerland.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Now, some of these earlier cults were more of a
spiritual basis that eventually evolved into the off planet space
adventure type theories.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
Well, a lot of them start out as like physical things,
like the Heaven's Gate called here with Marshall.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Apple White.

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
Started in nineteen seventy four. But the thing about the
Heaven's Gate cult, see a lot of it starts out physical.
The physical extraterrestrials are surrounding the planet and they're going
to come down on land and ascend this up into
the fifth of Men, into the new extra terrestrial. We're
going to be somehow transformed into a physical human into

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a extraterrestrial and the next evolutionary level above human. Several
of those of the cults talk about that as a
physical thing, that their physical extraterrestrials, that their physical UFOs,
and they're going to come down physically and rapture us
up because some sort of doomsday thing is happening, Like

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what the Secrets called in nineteen fifty three talked about
how that the United States was getting ready to be
destroyed by a disaster. A natural disaster was getting ready
to happen, which was going to be an earthquake followed
by a tsunami that was going to happen in nineteen
fifty four, in December twenty first of nineteen fifty four.

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This was supposed to happen, right, and then that date
came and went, and then they pushed it back to
December twenty fourth, nineteen fifty four. They didn't happen. And
then there was this guy that a psychologist that infiltrated
into the cult called Leon Fettinger that actually created the

(01:15:10):
term cognitive dissonance. The dude created the term cognitive dissonance
by studying this UFO seekers cult. That's where the term
comes from, which is really interesting when you think about
it now, how people are throwing around the term cognitive
dissonance for the people that aren't a part of this

(01:15:31):
community or aren't a part of it that they think
are like Npcason have absolutely no idea what it's going on.
But it actually started within a UFO cult. A psychiatrist
and Leon Festinger infiltrated into the cult to study the
cult to see how what their reactions and what their
mental state was after their predictions didn't come true. See
all of the cults have fantastical predictions.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Well, seems like a lot of them are based off
of prophecy as well. They need some of prophetic event
to real people in.

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
Yeah, and they keep them on the hook. Like Marshall
apple White here from the Heaven's Gate Call. He literally
had no direction in the beginning of his called. He
just gathered up all these people and they basically went
on like a little tour of the United States. He
didn't tell them what was going on. He basically just said,
wake up in the middle of the night around three am,

(01:16:26):
stare at the sky and hit a tuning fork over
your head, and that'll tune you to the right vibrations
of the UFOs and maybe at some point you'll get
raptured up by the UFOs and that the clouds aren't
really clouds. The clouds are UFOs waiting to come and
rapture up human beings into the next evolutionary level above human.

(01:16:50):
And then he kept them on the hook with that.
But once that didn't work out in his who he
calls his shepherd, which was his part Bonnie Nettles, which
was the co leader of the Heaven's Gate cult. She
died in nineteen eighty five. She was diagnosed with brain

(01:17:10):
cancer in nineteen eighty four and died in nineteen eighty five,
which put a real huge wrench in the ideology of
this cult because the followers looked at Bonnie Nettles as
like a messiah. You know. They claimed to be the
reincarnation of Jesus and Mother Mary, and they also claimed

(01:17:31):
to be the two witnesses of the Book of Revelation
that would kick off the apocalypse. And when she died
and she wasn't physically she didn't get physically raptured up
into a UFO, into the next evolutionary level above human
to transform into an extraterrestrial. Some of the followers started

(01:17:53):
the question right, as you should, and if you're believing
in an ideology, the ideology doesn't work out, you should
probab probably question it after. And so then he had
to switch up the ideology of the cult and turn
it into spiritual. I turned it into consciousness. And then
you started talking about how human beings are just vehicles,

(01:18:17):
their vehicles to experience consciousness, and it's not a physical ascension,
it's an after death ascension. And that Bonnie Nettles had
to take an early exit from her container, from her vehicle,
and that she's up there working on the extraterrestrial ships
making sure that the exhaust ports are working properly to

(01:18:41):
come and pick them up. I switched from a physical
ascension to be raptured up by extraterrestrial UFOs into a
spiritual thing, which is exactly what happened with the Order
of the Solar Temple called in Geneva, Switzerland as well.
He started The first things he was talking about was

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a physical ascension, and then he turned it into a
spiritual thing. You know, once all of the predictions don't
pan out and people see that they aren't true, then
they have to switch up the ideology to keep people
on the hook. And that's what they all do. Every

(01:19:24):
one of them has switched in and turned it into
something else. Everyone besides Ryale from the Realien cult.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
He mind us a little bit about I've heard a
little bit about this cult. What was this one about?

Speaker 6 (01:19:42):
This is basically like a sex cult in the realien cult, right.
He claimed that in the early seventies a physical extraterrestrials
landed in Paris and greeted him, and then they took
him on their ship where he had sex with artificial

(01:20:08):
robot human ladies and that he was able to and
then well, then he came back and then he was like, oh, well,
this is how they achieve immortality. They achieve immortality from cloning.
And it's interesting because he actually did open up a

(01:20:30):
cloning center called clone Aid, which is a real company
in Canada, and several people. They actually claimed to have
cloned a baby which they named Eve in two thousand
and two. And there's also a rapper named Kid Boo
that claims to be cloned by this Clonaid company as well.

(01:20:51):
But besides that, he claimed he did something unlike a
lot of these calls. He put the so far in
the future for the extraterrestrial landing that by the time
it happens, it's no longer going to matter, and people
will have forgotten about it, or most of the people

(01:21:12):
in the call will be dead, and he will be dead.
He's like eighty five years old right now. He's on
his last leg anyway, So what he did was he
put the date at that the extraterrestrials, the elohem that
he claimed deceived humanity into believing that they were gods

(01:21:36):
and that they are the creators of humanity. Just like
almost all of these cults claim, they all have a
subset of religion mixed in there. They all have claimed
to interpreted the Bible differently.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Now, are these guys just is Do you think they're
just basing it off of science fiction nerd dork stories
that they take to heart and they want attention, so
they implement these Are they insane? Are they having genuine
spiritual experiences that they're misinterpreting or are they on drugs?

(01:22:16):
What's going on with these fuckers?

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
I think it's a little bit of all of that.
I think it's just a hodgepodge of all of that.
And with the I AM cult. He was a hypnotist.
Guy Ballard here was a hypnotist and his wife, Edna
Ballard was a was like an occult study like she

(01:22:42):
would do occult groups and she would read a lot
of Elena Brovlovsky and a lot of these occult science
fiction writers of the time, and then they incorporated that
into their ideology and mixed it all together and then
compounded upon it and then turned it into something that

(01:23:03):
seemed very similar but just slightly different, just like Marshall
apple Way from the Heaven's Gate and Bonnie Nettels did
as well. They spent all of their time in the
early seventies traveling around the United States visiting gurus, New
Age spiritual centers and spiritual movements of the time to

(01:23:25):
incorporate and mix in there and create their own ideology
that they would later on then, you know, create their
cult based off of everything that they had learned from
everyone else. It seems like a regurgitation within a regurgitation, right.
These people in these UFO cults are regurgitating other people's

(01:23:49):
information and then changing it and slightly manipulating it to
turn it into their own ideology. And then people in
the community today has inadvertently stolen a lot a lot
of their ideas and a lot of their concepts and
regurgitated it not knowing where it came from, and then
mixing in their own ideology and their own thoughts and
ideas and then creating their own theories. It's a regurgitation

(01:24:14):
within a regurgitation. Is really what I'm trying to explain here,
and going back and studying all these culture'll see where
the term Luciferian comes from. You'll see the first mention
of the Guardian races came from the seekers UFO called
Ashtar Command. Ashtar Galactic Command actually came from a gentleman

(01:24:37):
called George van Tassel that supposedly communicated with the Ashtar
Command and the Nashtar Command called it got completely out
of hand because then everybody else claimed to channeled Ashtar
as well. Then he got super mad at everyone, claiming
that all the other channelers of Ashtar were wrong and

(01:24:57):
that they weren't really channeling Ashtar. They were channeling a
breakaway evil extraterrestrial group from the Ashtar Command. And then
it became really popular in the mid nineties because that's
when the Internet became really popular, and then they started
using forums, and then they started they put out like
a set of rules in order for you to channel

(01:25:19):
Ashtar and for your channeled Ashtar messages to be seen
as valid. And it's just gotten so out of hand
with this whack of do nonsense, and the same thing
with the Heaven's Gate called they did that as well,
they installed like a set of rules. Then you get
into some of the modern day UFO cults, like the

(01:25:42):
Love Is One cult, where Amy Carlson claimed to be
a divine nineteen billion year old being who burned all
of creation and was here to save humanity from the
dark forces of the Cabal and to raise your vibrations
so high that we ascend into the Fifth to mention
that only one hundred and forty four thousand people will

(01:26:02):
make it into the new five d Earth, and the
rest will be recycled into the Sun. And then Amy
Carlson also claimed to be reincarnated five hundred and thirty
four times, including reincarnations of Joan of Arc, Marilyn Monroe, Cleopatra,
Amelia Earhart, and Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Right, and then that's all the bangers, all the bangers.

Speaker 6 (01:26:25):
All the big stars. You gotta be big stars if
you want to be a leader of a UFO culture,
you gotta be somebody important. You can't be any You
can't be a blacksmith, you can't be a shoemaker, you
can't be a construction worker, you can't be a builder,
none of that. You gotta be Jesus, Moses, Buddha Krishna,
any of those famous aka Natan, right, and they all

(01:26:48):
have that the cult that I'm getting ready to cover
on Thursday on my channel.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
The guy.

Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
Just like in the Ballad, he was the I mean
the Guy Ballard. He claimed to be the reincarnation of
George Washington. Right, you got to be somebody important, you know.
And Amy Carlson also claimed to be the queen of
the lost continent of Lamaria and claimed that the Lamarians
now live within mal Shasta in California, which was White

(01:27:16):
Guy and then the Bowler talked about in their early thirties,
which they ripped off another author called they wrote a
book called Between Two Worlds, right, and then Amy Carlson
also claims to that stated that Donald Trump was her
father in a past life and that she speaks to
the deceased actor Robin Williams, and that Robin Williams was

(01:27:39):
a part of the Galactic Federation of Light and with
a sister and energetic healings for eighty eight dollars through zoom.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
It is at what point did did some of these
cults become truly dangerous innocence where we're drinking kool aid
we're having showdowns with military and government were killing each
other in certain ways. How many of these cults actually
went to those dangerous extremes.

Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
Quite a few of them be called of Van Trovis
with Edward Malik here taught that you're gonna love this.
You're gonna love this, and the viewers are gonna love
this too. He taught his followers that there were a
group of evil extraterrestrial grays that would abduct people and

(01:28:34):
cut off their testicles to fuel their UFO ships. But
that's not all, Chris, that's not all. Also, the good
extraterrestrials also require testicles to fuel their UFO ships. So
you're screwed either way here. You either get your testicles

(01:28:54):
ripped off by evil gray extraterrestrials or you freely give
up your testicles to the good extraterrestrials to fuel their UFOs. Hey,
the cult was disbanded because of a lot of people
had turned up that they were One dead teacher was

(01:29:16):
found in a river and he had been mutilated. His
testicles had been ripped off and cut with surgical precision.
A lot of the other members of the cult were
suffering from paranoia. This guy was also a hypnotist, Edward Malak,

(01:29:37):
He was also a hypnotist, and he was actually programming
into his followers this idea of evil gray extraterrestrial ball
harvesting in or galactic organs stealing people that was zooming
around the universe, abducting people and stealing their organs and

(01:30:00):
and ripping off their testicles to fuel their UFOs.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
That's dedication to that cult, brother right there.

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
Well, I mean, that's what a lot of them, the
former called members that went to psychiatrists and stuff. Psychiatrists
said that they were doing self mutilation. They were apparently
cutting off their own body parts for the good extra trashure.
It's crazy, dude, it's wild. And he was literally programming

(01:30:32):
into these people through hypnosis to be paranoid and get
into a schizophrenia type state. And two people went missing
from this cult that are still unsolved today. They didn't
even solve the murder that happened with the gentleman that
apparently had his testicles removed and was hitting the head

(01:30:54):
like five to ten times. That was unsolved. Two missing persons.
One kid was eighteen years old and his parents saw
that he was increasingly becoming paranoid and had schizophrenic type.
He was slowly going into mental illness because of this cult,

(01:31:18):
because of the Antrovis cult. And he took a bus
to go to school and then he never showed up.
He's just missing. And then there's another missing gentleman that
there's very little information about that is also tied to
the Antrovis cult as well, that was never found.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Jeez, imagine if the Antrovis cult is actually right about
everything and where they've ball harvesting all over the place
to fuel their ships. Cover your balls, ladies and gentlemen, that's.

Speaker 6 (01:31:55):
Right, get your balls under a lock and key. You
need to lock up those balls. But the other calt
they see, they all have some sort of wa could
do thing right. This one with then Trovis was the
ball snatching evil extraterrestrials, and then the cult that I'm

(01:32:15):
going to cover on Thursday. They're claim the fame which
is the Court of Um, which is for stands for
Universal Medicine. They claim that extraterrestrials nine foot tall, gray
extraterrestrial beings float around sniffing people. That's all they do.

(01:32:39):
They just float around sniffing people. They can smell you
wherever you are. They can smell you on a train,
they can smell you on a plane. They can smell
you're eating green eggs and ham. Whatever it is that
you're doing, they can smell you. They all have a
over the top why I could do theory that makes

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them the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Sets the prophecy going along with this, because just having
an alien that is able to smell you may not
draw in that many people, although there are maybe some
people that are really into that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:16):
I don't know, Hey man, there's some freaky people out there. Okay,
they might get off on the extraterrestrials being able to
smell them from a very far distance. You never know.
But there's there's all kinds of things with this cult.
They it's basically like a huge sex cult as well.

(01:33:38):
And he would heal these women. He called them ovary
messages and breast messages. So you basically just grope these
women and claim that he was healing them of their ailments,
that he was healing them from cancer and from breast

(01:34:00):
answer in all this, and I don't want to give
too much away, but he's basically just a huge broadster. Yeah,
huge broad guy that has thousands of followers. Currently the
cult is ran out of Australia and he convinces old women.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
He's still going this is an ongoing thing.

Speaker 6 (01:34:22):
Yeah, I started in ninety nine. Yeah, and he's basically
just scamming a bunch of old women out of their money,
which is what a lot of these cults are all about.
The Order of the Solar Temple called in Geneva, Switzerland
in their early nineties, That's what the whole thing about

(01:34:46):
their cult was is that they were a very elitist
cult and they only accepted people into their cult that
had an abnormally large bank account. And whenever there are
two properties burnt down, one in Switzerland and another one
in France almost simultaneously, and all of the members of
the cult were murdered and shot in the head, and

(01:35:09):
then the whole police went up in flames. An investigator
of police investigator found documents that showed that more than
a few people from the cult had donated over a
million dollars personally to the call. So it's really all
about money and guy money in sex, right. Besides a

(01:35:33):
few of them, there's a few of them that aren't
really about sex, and like the Heaven's Gate cult. They
actually didn't want anything to do with sex. They thought that.
They even went as far to get castrated. Marshall apple
White and five of his male followers went and got castrated.

(01:35:56):
Same with the Androvis cult as well. They some of
them got castrated too.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
So sometimes because they needed fuel for the alien ships.

Speaker 7 (01:36:07):
Come on, No one knows where those testicles went, but
they went to the evil extraterrestrial ships or the good
extraterrestrial ships.

Speaker 6 (01:36:19):
Either way you go, you're you're giving up your testicles.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
That's right. Next time you see that triangle in this guy,
there goes those testes.

Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
That's right. But then you have another cult that was
called the Markage UFO cult, where Gloria Lee developed a
plan for world peace and a space station. Right, and
then she took these plans to Washington, DC in nineteen

(01:36:51):
sixty two to bring the plans for world peace and
intergalactic space station to the attension of the government officials.
But after the government didn't pay attention to her, she
launched a hunger strike protest and told others in the
UFO contact E movement of the time that she expected

(01:37:12):
to enter into a coma resembling death and then return
and be reborn with renewed spiritual energy to carry on
her mission, and after sixty days of not eating, she
then died of starvation. All right. And then there's another
called the Universal People from nineteen ninety seven with a

(01:37:35):
gentleman named Ivo a Benda, which predicted a cosmic catastrophe
and the evacuation of people to another planet by extraterrestrial ships,
which obviously didn't happen. And then he he sent the
Ministry of Defense in Slovakia letters asking them if they

(01:37:58):
had plans to defend again against evil lizard people that
are going to invade and detail plans on how to
defend ourselves from evil extraterrestrial lizard people. Right then it's

(01:38:21):
it's wild, dude. Once you study and look through all
these cults, you see that all of them have predictions
that have failed time and time again. The term cognitive
dissonance was created by studying a UFO cult. You got
the Unarious Academy cult in California that claimed that there

(01:38:49):
was going to be an extraterrestrial mass landing in two
thousand and one, the thirty three spaceships stocked on top
of each other, We're going to land in California followed
by a huge natural disaster, right, and every one of
them is an interpretation of Christianity replaced with extraterrestrials. So

(01:39:20):
the extraterrestrials are now Jesus, the extra trustrials are now
the angels. Extraterrestrials are now God. And it's just been
usurped into a new ideology of new age for the
people that are disillusioned with organized religion. It's a new

(01:39:42):
way to hook people in that know that don't want
to be a part of religion or Christianity or these
Abrahamic ideologies. So they switched it in. They took out
Jesus and replaced it with extra trash, took out God
and replaced it with extra trestials. It's no longer God

(01:40:04):
that created humanity. It's now extraterrestrials. And you can it's apparent. Yeah,
it's so apparent.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
Now we're gonna get back into the extraterrestrial aspect. But
I want to get your insights into one of the
most tragic endings that has occurred in our recent history
with cult activity, and that's what occurred in Waco, Texas
with David Koresh and You've even interviewed some individuals that
were involved with the showdown. What are some of your

(01:40:36):
insights into what was really happening with that event and
what was going on behind the scenes with that cult.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
That's a really strange one. That's one of the first
ones that I really looked into and see David Koresh
kind of made a self fulfilled prophecy. He's probably one
of the only cult leaders that actually got anything right

(01:41:08):
about anything, which is really strange. But it wasn't the
end of the world like he predicted it to be.
It was the end of the world for him and
his followers and went down almost verbatim the way that

(01:41:28):
he predicted that it would go down. Now you can
say that it was possible that he knew that he
was doing some sort of illegal activity with the modification
of some weapons, but there was an informant there during
that time that told the ATF that they weren't modifying

(01:41:51):
any kind of weapons. So really, to me, it seemed
like a very peaceful group of people at Mount Carmel
that were trying to make their own way, and they
were making their money by selling weapons, and the government

(01:42:13):
didn't like it, and they came in and tried to
and inevitably killed them all. And I think that that's
really what was happening, because there wasn't anything dangerous to
them at all. Right, they weren't hurting anyone. They weren't

(01:42:36):
hurting their own followers. All their followers like wanted to
be there, you know, they weren't forcing anyone to be there.
They could leave when they wanted to leave. So I
think the Branch Davidians and Waco was just a little
bit different than a lot of these other cults. And

(01:42:56):
also David Koresh never really talked about UFOs or extra treashurials.
It was all focused on the Bible and his interpretation
of the Bible in the Seven Seals, and once the
Seven Seals were unlocked, he knew where to find them
in the Bible that would bring about the apocalypse. So
I personally don't see anything dangerous with the Branch Davidians.

(01:43:20):
I did a lot of study. I had the Wakehouse
survivor on my show. Also, Gary Nessner, which was a
FBI negotiator that negotiated with David Krush on my channel
as well, And it seems like a bunch of negligence
it seems like that they did not know who were

(01:43:43):
what they were dealing with, and they did everything wrong
in the situation, and they kept fueling them. And the
more that they pushed at the branch Davidians at Waco,
the more that they resisted, and they didn't care about
their ideolo. They didn't care about their belief systems, and
that's evident in the trials as well of the I

(01:44:05):
believe eleven people maybe more that survived their beliefs weren't
taken into consideration at all. So I think it was
a bunch of negligence and they did everything the wrong way,
and it was a real stain upon the ATF and
the FBI or the actions that they took at Waco,

(01:44:28):
Texas in ninety three.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
Before we get into some of the current happenings that's
unfolding right now, whether it's what we're told in the media,
by our government or by our own truth community, there
is some insanity unfolding and there is very little understanding,
true understanding of any of it. Now. Before we get

(01:44:52):
to that, is there any other cults that we didn't
cover anything else that you've been looking at lately that
really as a tested you, just if you're interested.

Speaker 6 (01:45:04):
On Thursday at four pm EST, I'll be covering the
callt of Um on my channel. So and there's also
a playlist on my channel as well on YouTube that
has all of the different all the CALT episodes that
I've done, all in order. So if you're interested in
figuring out more about the UFO doomsday calts, check out

(01:45:27):
that series.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
In our own community, we have cults within cults that
are producing videos and information and trying to steer consciousness
in a certain direction about regarding what's really supposedly happening
with extraterrestrials and consciousness. But this has been going on
for a very long time, but we have a new

(01:45:49):
cult that entered the game. Our own government, our own
media is now joining in the fun with steering humanity
in certain directions. First of all, I know you've covered
a lot of what has been going on with this deception.
I know you've watched the congressional hearings. What is your

(01:46:10):
understanding of why they could possibly be discussing extraterrestrials and
UFOs to the extent that they are right now.

Speaker 6 (01:46:21):
It's a huge regurgitation. David Korush has absolutely what sounds
exactly like David krush Right, Crush, David krush weird, really weird. Yeah,
but crush. At the UFO hearing, he's talking about things
that have been talked about in the community for decades now,

(01:46:47):
and he comes with no evidence, no proof, just more stories.
And he says in that congressional hearing that he got
all of his information from stories, from things that people
I've told him. The only thing that I found interesting
during that entire congressional testimony was the talk of special

(01:47:09):
access programs and how the special access programs are funded
without congressional oversight. They're doing things that Congress has absolutely
no idea about, and that could be anything. I mean,
I don't think it has anything to do with reverse
engineering of advanced technology or reverse engineering of alien craft.

(01:47:32):
This community has gotten to the point where there's a
whistle blower, a government so called whistle blower that is
a mental patient. He was taken into a mental hospital
against his will twice and still for suicidal tendencies and

(01:47:58):
substance abuse in the late two thousands and still kept
his clearance and then is now in front of Congress
talking about stories that people in the community have talked
about forever now that are fake and made up stories.

(01:48:18):
Have you seen the documentary Mirage Men while back?

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:48:25):
Okay, So Richard Dodie, he worked for the Air Force
and he basically took this guy named Paul Benowitz and
fed him a bunch of nonsense about UFOs and extraterrestrials

(01:48:47):
and basically made the dude go crazy. So the guy
was he lived, Paul Benewitz lived near a military base,
and he was seeing some strange activity at the military base.
He was filmed, I mean, some things that were going
on there. He had like an antenna up and he
was trying to get transmissions from what was going on
at the military base. And then he finally contacted therefore,

(01:49:13):
and they put him in contact with Richard Doty, and
Richard Doty starts telling him all of this nonsense about
extraterrestrials and UFOs because they knew that he was filming
and getting information about top secret projects, top secret military

(01:49:38):
projects that the government was working on advanced technology. So
Richard Doty turned around and made him believe that it
was extraterrestrials. And then he did another thing, which was
this gentleman called Bill Moore. Bill Moore became really popul

(01:50:00):
in the UFO community in the late seventies into the eighties,
so Rick Dody decided to work with Bill Moore to
put out disinformation and misinformation within the community. He had
Bill Moore write a book about Roswell that came out

(01:50:22):
in nineteen eighty that has all the lore, has all
the ideas of extraterrestrial crafts, extraterrestrial craft, and bodies, and
no one cared about Roswell until that book came out,
and all the information that Richard Dody gave him was

(01:50:44):
fake information. So the Roswell story of extraterrestrial technology is
built upon a fake story from Richard Doty, and Richard
Doty also give a bunch of fake information to Linda
Moulton Howe as well. Anybody that's interested really highly recommend

(01:51:06):
watching The Mirage Man. It's free on YouTube. I just
watched it the other day and it just confirmed everything
that I already thought about the UFO community and the
extraterrestrial hypothesis is that it's all made up. It's all
made up to cover up military advanced craft and technologies

(01:51:31):
that the military have and are still working on and
that story from Bill Moore in that book in nineteen
eighty has been regurgitated all the way up until this point.
It's been regurgitated so much that there's a mental patient

(01:51:54):
testifying in front of Congress that the government has crashed
extraterrestrial non biological craft and non biological entities. Non human
biologic entities came along with those craft, which came directly

(01:52:15):
from Bill Moore in his book. That was information given
to him by proven government disinformationless Richard Dody.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
I don't see how far they can take this without
eventually having to show some sort of physical proof for
the claims that are being made, which I don't see
ever occurring. But what I do see is the excuse
to roll out, like you were saying, extremely advanced technology

(01:52:52):
that is probably and has probably already been implemented against us,
against our own people for a long time. And you
look at the Camelio story that I'm gonna have Guffy
on this week to talk about that we've been using
extremely advanced technology to simulate supernatural and paranormal and extraterrestrial

(01:53:14):
activities for a very long time. And I believe that
we've been not only implementing the technology, but possibly utilizing
very nefarious tactics and techniques as far as even up
to abduction to perpetuate this agenda. And how far has

(01:53:36):
it gone, how far will it go? I don't know,
but I'm pretty sure that most of what we consider
alien abductions has been on the part of our military.

Speaker 6 (01:53:49):
Absolutely, the entire extraterrestrial hypothesis is a giant psychological operation.
It is and it serves as a cover for real
things that might have been happening, just like Richard Dody

(01:54:09):
did the Paul Benowitz, just like he did the Bill Moore,
just like he did the Lendable. Now it serves as
a scapegoat and a cover for what might actually be
happening and what technology they might actually be doing and

(01:54:31):
have developed. That's all that it is. And but then
when you go back and you replace and you see
that Christianity in these Abrahamic religions has just been replaced
with extraterrestrials when there was no proof for God or

(01:54:57):
any of these religions. There's a faith based I want
to believe. I want to believe so badly that I'm
willing to take common sense and critical thinking out of
the equation and throw it out the window. It's the
exact same thing with the extraterrestrial hypothesis. There's no proof
for extra trustrials, there's no proof that they even exist.

(01:55:22):
It's based on I want to believe. I want to
believe that we're not the only beings in the universe.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Well, what this means now, what this means now is
they've already our government, our media has already gone as
far as to at making these admissions. So apparently they're
going to have to keep up with the story somehow
over however, many years that we're going to exist under

(01:55:54):
this government, how are they going to perpetuate this? What
do you think that we could be seeing coming out
of this based on the false information that we've gotten already?
How are they going to keep up the lie?

Speaker 6 (01:56:10):
The only way that they can do it and this
is just my personal thoughts and my personal opinions. No proof,
no as an evidence, But in my eyes, the only
way that they can keep it up is to create
what people already assume an extraterrestrial looks like. So if

(01:56:35):
they can create a gray extraterrestrial, I suppose gray extraterrestrial
that have been genetically altered, genetically modified, or maybe not
even a real biological being. It could be a robot,

(01:56:56):
could just be a straight up robot they wheel out
in front of the public that they created on Earth
and then passed that off as an extraterrestrial from another
planet or from somewhere else in the Solar System. That's
the only way that I can see them getting away
with it, because it's like you said, Chris, how much

(01:57:20):
longer can we go with people just continuously talking about stories,
stories after stories after stories and more stories that are
regurgitations from previous stories. How long can that go on
for before people are starting to require proof and evidence,

(01:57:41):
physical proof and evidence for what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
When we really do because we've been perpetually fed these
stories throughout the ages, and now we're just blindly trusting
our science and technology to guide us to the next
stage of of human development, which we know where that's
leading us. So it's all based on blind belief, and
we will continue to do it because I guess that's

(01:58:09):
what we do. We just blindly believe shit.

Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
That's right. And the hybridization. I've been trying to tell
people this for forever now that it's not an extraterrestrial
hybridization program. It's a human cyborg hybridization program. That's what
it is. It's a human technology augmentation program. Not mixing

(01:58:41):
your DNA with some extraterrestrial race and becoming ascended and
turning into a half Lyrin, half Pleadian, half zeta reticulate
gray human tiger. Lady, you're it's a robotic hybridization. And

(01:59:03):
we can see that plain as day. You just look
at our reality. You know, that is what it's about.
And that's where they're pushing humanity towards. And the cover
for that is extraterrestrials. The cover for that for this

(01:59:24):
community is that extraterrestrials are coming to take our DNA,
coming to take our genetic material to harvest us and
create alien human hybrids. That's not what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
We're in an uphill battle when it comes to the
information war right now, just because there we've been saturated,
especially since twenty twenty, with so much bad information, so
much misinformation, so many people that we're so having good
intentions and attempting to make discoveries all at the same time,

(02:00:05):
but what it turned into is a huge mess. We
got flooded with things that are not true by the
intelligence community by idiots that had no idea what they
were talking about. And it's all thanks to the age
of technology that we're in. But the question is, how
do we reel all this in? How do we get

(02:00:26):
people on the right track? Is it possible? I don't
know if it is. Because of the system that we're
under right now, how do we get accurate and good information,
especially because I think that they're going to be implementing
chat GPT into our search engines to where anytime we
try and do any research, it's just going to come
up with datty, government approved information for us to take in.

(02:00:51):
So it's getting difficult, man.

Speaker 6 (02:00:54):
It really is. And I think that that has been
the goal all along. Make people look over here while
you're doing this over here. And really you can track
a lot of this back to just fake information in general,
like the Alternative three material that came out a fake
documentary from the UK that talked about how missing people

(02:01:19):
were being taken to the Moon and taken to Mars,
and at the end of that documentary, there's a craft
that is landing on Mars that they see some weird
thing under the ground that scurries off, and then the
person in the fake documentary says, we have life on Mars, right.

(02:01:41):
But that documentary was put out as a nonfiction documentary.
And then there was a subsequent book that came out
a year after in nineteen seventy eight that was released
worldwide that was put out as nonfiction when it was
one hundred fiction. A fake documentary and fake book then

(02:02:02):
influenced the Montalk Project, influenced the Philadelphia Experiment, and then
it ultimately influenced all the Secret Space program and Super
Soldier people. It created a whole lore and a whole
mythology based around a fake documentary and a fake book

(02:02:24):
that people thought was real and still believe in it
to this day. And then you have another fake documentary
that came out in two thousand and eight called The
Orion Conspiracy. I covered this with Shane the Runer. We
watched the entire thing on my channel, and it has
everything in the dude space Nazis right, Antarctica, directed energy weapons,

(02:02:55):
mind control device right, all of this fantastical stuff which
is all fake but it seems very real, seems plausible.
There's so many fake pictures in there. The entire theme
is filled with fake pictures and there's credits at the

(02:03:15):
end of it. I mean this was back in two
thousand and eight, Yeah, fifteen years ago, and we have
all those things in that fake documentary are being talked
about today and have gotten people to believe in it.
That's how easy it is.

Speaker 1 (02:03:36):
Well, unfortunately, we do have these large scale, manufactured, if
you want to call them, false flag events that do occur.
We do have these things like nine to eleven, like
the Vegas shooting, like various other school shootings that have occurred.
There is a level of malevolence in planning behind a

(02:03:56):
lot of this stuff, but some of the events that unfold,
like you said, are just because of negligence, negligence due
to authorities and law enforcement and people that have should
have taken care of problems. And we may see we
may have seen a recent example of that with the
Maui fires, although there is some eyebrow raising evidence that

(02:04:21):
has come out, but mainly it does seem like a
lot of negligence and people are jumping to space age
weapons to justify some of the events that are happening
there when we really have no idea what really went on.

Speaker 6 (02:04:40):
And that is the problem with this community is that
we always want to jump on things and talk about
stuff before we have any idea exactly what happened. And
there's a lot of things that happened in Maui, Like
they didn't sound the alarms. Now one alarm went off
in Maui to alert people about the fires. The water

(02:05:04):
was shut off. They couldn't fight the fires, right, like
just negligence on their part. But that is the problem
with this community is that everything is a conspiracy. Everything
has turned into like natural things just don't happen anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
No, I think there's going be a level of conspiracy
to this. There could be a level of conspiracy to
all of this. But when you are jumping as far
as you have the answers, you have the evidence, you
know what happened, and you're presenting it as your own
news story, that's where the problems come in.

Speaker 6 (02:05:47):
Well, it's gone so far, Chris, that whatever happens, regardless
if it was a natural event, regardless of if it
was due to negligence, there's people in this community that
are going to turn around and say that it was

(02:06:09):
the government, that it was through out of organizations, it
was black Rock, it was all always someone outside of yourself,
always someone it's always someone else's fault. It's always due
to government involvement. And that's not me saying that the
government isn't involved in some of this stuff. They obviously are,
but not everything that happens can be a giant conspiracy.

(02:06:37):
But that's where this community has led, is that nothing
just happens anymore. People just don't do things anymore. It's
always somebody else's it's always some giant, huge conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (02:06:57):
I think maybe if we started looking at it as
ultimately we are in control of it all. We allowed
everything that has unfolded to occur. We put these people
in office that are in office, We paid for the
products that are then funding all of the horrible activities

(02:07:19):
that are happening on corporate levels and above. We put
these people in power. We allowed these people to get
where they are, and we in some way, on some level,
are allowing everything that has unfolded to unfold by participating
in certain systems. So if we stop allowing it, and

(02:07:43):
first of all, if we stop participating in things that
we don't align with, that will eventually lead to some
of these nefarious things. That's the first step. Don't participate,
don't pay attention to the nonsense, and then you don't
have to worry about getting bad informations. So there are
things that we can do on our part to prevent

(02:08:05):
all of this stuff if we just become more conscious
of what we're allowing to manifest.

Speaker 6 (02:08:13):
The way that I look at this community now, Chris,
is it's entertainment. That's all that it is. It's entertainment.
And these people, the people that you look up to,
they're very highly popular. People in the community. Know that

(02:08:35):
it's bullshit. They know that almost everything they talk about
is bullshit, but they keep talking about it. Why Because
it's entertainment, because it's a money making business. They're not
gonna actually come out and tell you the truth because

(02:08:58):
they'll get attacked, just like I have for a long
time now. There was a couple of weeks, every single
day in a row, I was getting messages and emails
and people telling me that I'm a schill and that

(02:09:19):
I'm working for the government and that all of this stuff. Dude,
because I'm actually trying to dig down and find out
exactly what's going on, and people don't want to hear
that they just don't they don't want to hear it.
And I guarantee you that there's someone that's listening to
this right now that it's like this guy.

Speaker 3 (02:09:41):
I hate this guy so much.

Speaker 6 (02:09:43):
He sucks. He has no idea what he's talking about.
He doesn't know about the news. Well, you're stuck in
the do verse, bro, You're stuck in the loop of
the community.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Unfortunately, there are a lot of folks that are get
going down those rabbit holes, becoming aware that they are in,
that they're down a false path, but still going down
that false path. And it's those that can realize that
they've made a mistake and admit it and then keep

(02:10:15):
going and keep exploring and keep researching and not getting
stuck in any certain paradigms. That's where the ticket is.
But we're in interesting times, man. I don't know. I
think that I'm always the optimist. I always believe that
somehow we can turn ourselves out of this, and maybe

(02:10:36):
just by having these conversations it might help people to
snap out of some of the nonsense and we'll see.

Speaker 6 (02:10:42):
But right their community has become just as bad as
the people that they claim to be against. That's what's happening.
The people that they claim have absolutely no idea what's
going on. The people that aren't quote unquote awake or
know about any of these super autra mega government secret
can conspiracies have no idea what they're talking about. Well,

(02:11:03):
people in the community have absolutely no idea what they're
talking about either. It's become a subculture that is just
as brainwashed as the people that they claim or brainwashed.
That's what it is. And yeah, Chris, thanks so much

(02:11:24):
for having me on. Really appreciate your time. Brother. If
people interested in checking me out on YouTube, Raised by Giants,
on Rock Fan, Rumble Odyssey, and any and all podcast platforms,
and on the Forbid Knowledge News Network, thanks so much
everyone for listening and thanks for having me on, Chris,
really appreciate it.

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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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