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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is a clip from Raised by Giants. You can
access the entire episode now on our website and all
podcast platforms. What do you think do you think that
connects us into Because when I interviewed doctor Jacques Vallet
a few weeks ago, he mentioned some when we were talking,
he basically was laying out of this idea that if
we want to understand the phenomenon, we have to sort

(00:25):
of explore the realm of the occult. And he mentioned
something about scientology, like the early scientology days, being some
kind of I don't know, some kind of connection into
this whole thing. Do you think that that's And then
of course you know that with the foundations of l.
Ron Hubbard's scientology connected to Jack Parsons, like, to me,
it seems like these things are all kind of connected,

(00:45):
and and uh, maybe maybe it's we're going through a
weird kind of disclosure on that right now, because I
don't think sixty years ago this would have been a
popular or acceptable topic to claim that Jack part since
Antichrist and l Ron Hubbard were on the desert jacking
off and opening up portals, and I think I think

(01:07):
the masses would be like, what are you guys smoking,
What are you talking about? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So, yeah, this Wikipedia article right here says put Off
took an interest in the Church of Scientology in the
late nineteen sixties and reached what was known as op
level seven. By nineteen seventy one. Put Off wrote up
his Wins for Scientology publication, claiming to achieve remote viewing abilities.

(01:35):
In nineteen seventy four, put Off also wrote a piece
for Scientology celebrity magazine, stating to Scientology giving him a
feeling of absolute fearlessness. Put Off served, all connection was severed,
all connection with Scientology in the late seventies, and like
that's what people were saying. They were coming at me
on x and on Facebook for saying that put Off

(01:58):
was a Scientologist you had left the church.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, do you think that's relevant to do you think
that's relevant to the the the arguments of whether or
not you know, like, like does does does Scientology teach
these people something about how to make contact, how to
remote view? I mean there must be something there. I
have you dug into that at all? I mean I
know that they keep kind of guarded secrets in the
Church of Scientology, So maybe that's not public knowledge.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I really haven't because scientology is a whole other rabbit
hole that I would just rather completely avoid. Yeah, and
it's dangerous, right, the dangerous though literally come after you
and stalk you and gang stalk you and post about
side of your house and ship, and like, I just don't,
I just don't even.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, I got you, so do So with the
foundations of stargate, the I think the sort of normy
version would be the CIA was funding projects to do
some remote viewing. Russell targ was working at SRI or
it was connected with SRI at Stanford Research, and they
did a bunch of experimentations of remote viewing, and I

(03:08):
guess officially over the years they said it didn't really
work or it wasn't conclusive that it works, so then
they shut it down. But when you look at the
modern day upology movement and folks like Chris Bledsoe or
doctor Stephen Greer who claimed that with the right sort

(03:29):
of focus or energy or whatever or inherent psychic abilities
right like you were saying with Danny Torrence from the
Shining that there is this ability to make contact. So
that's where it gets kind of confusing. To me is like,
so were they successful in this and they're just kind
of lying to the public and maybe they changed the

(03:49):
name of Stargate. I'm not really sure what to make
of all of that.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, well, let's get into it right here, because this is, uh,
this is the one in a percent real information. All
this information that I'm about to speak about now comes
from official documents, official declassified Sunstreet Briefing document, and it
also comes from the SRI Syndicate document, which was from
nineteen seventy three. So where all this starts is with

(04:20):
SRI Standford Research Institute. But the government was also doing
studies on what they refer to in the documents as
parapsychology with Duke University in the thirties, Parapsychology Foundation in
New York in the fifties, Mind Science Foundation in the sixties.

(04:40):
So they had an interest in this for a really
long time, and they did other research foundations and centers
even earlier than SRI. But the thing that kicked off
this whole remote viewing stuff was SRI and this was
in the seventies, in the early seventies. So to establish
a little background on SRI is SRI is essentially a

(05:01):
government contractor, and their very first research project investigated whether
a plant can be used as a source of natural rubber,
so from nineteen forty two to nineteen forty six, and
then the funding was cut by Congress after World War
Two ended. Then sori's first economic study was for the
United States Air Force, which is very important to remember

(05:24):
now because later on we get into more Air Force stuff.
That's where dell Graph comes in that I just mentioned
that created the term starget. He had a small remote
viewing unit at right Patterson Air Force Base which was
involved with locating a missing airplane, which we're going to
get into here in just a few minutes. So in

(05:46):
nineteen forty seven, the Air Force wanted to determine expansion
potential for the US aircraft industry. SRI found that it
would take a really long time to escalate the production
in an emergencynineteen forty eight, SRI began research and consultation
with Chevron Corporation to develop an artificial substitute for coconut

(06:08):
oil and soap production. So the reason for mentioning all
of that is to establish that SRI is working for
the government. SRI is a government contractor and we know
what government contractors are like Raytheon and all these Lockeed
Martin and all these big aerospace types of companies. They're

(06:29):
essentially a front for the intelligence community. And it's also
establishing that SRI worked for the Air Force and was
getting funding from the Air Force prior, which is very important.
But in nineteen seventy two, the United States rbing Surgeon
General through the Intelligence Information Agency, together with the DIA,

(06:51):
then published studies of Soviet Bloc work in psycho energetics,
so they got information that the Russian were using psychics
to collect intelligence data on the United States. Also in
that same year, SRI Stanford Research Ins stated that they

(07:13):
started their research in psycho energetics in nineteen seventy two
with how put Off and Russell targ They did a
series of investigations into the psychic phenomenon which was sponsored
and funded by the CIA, and had consciousness researchers in

(07:34):
Go Swan pop Price, and this is all documented in
the Syndicate documented from nineteen seventy three. Syndicate was an
SRI program to determine if remote viewing or psycho energetic
phenomenon was real, because if it was possible that the

(07:54):
subjects in the beginning at SRI could be using their
minds to collect information. How are they getting that information? Right?
Are they getting that information subliminally? Are they getting that
information somehow through memory? So they started running a bunch
of tests and during the testing Inngo, Swan was given
a coordinate and he described some kind of military base. Now,

(08:21):
this is known as coordinate remote viewing. There are several
different versions and different names of you know, different types
of remote viewing. But this is known as coordinate remote viewing.
Where a coordinate is given to a remote viewer, they
then are able to view whatever has been imbued upon
that coordinate. The coordinate Now, it's it gets really confusing

(08:46):
because the coordinate really doesn't have to be what the
location of what the person is viewing. So the coordinate
is actually just like it can be any series of number. Okay,
So the person that's giving the coordinate to the person
essentially has to imbue and imprint what they want the

(09:09):
remote viewer to see onto the numbers. It's a very
complicated problem. You can't just sit down and remote view something.
That's not how remote viewing works. Okay, So all these
remote viewers online that are saying that they can that
they remove viewed Antarctica, that they remote viewed this alien base,

(09:29):
that they remove you the underground basis in the United States.
It's all nonsense, garbage, bullshit. You can't one. You can't
know what you're remote viewing because whenever you know exactly
what it is that you're remote viewing, your mind then
creates things that you're supposed to see.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh, I see, yeah, I read an experiment that was
done to remote view Mars.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I don't know if you've ever
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