3i/Atlas Remote Viewed Defies Explanation Dick Allgire

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 Allgire is a veteran newsman turned remote viewing pioneer, Dick began his journey in 1997—just after the U.S. government quietly declassified its psychic spy program. He trained for years under Glenn Wheaton, a former member of a secret Army Special Forces unit tasked with developing remote viewing for intelligence operations. What they taught wasn’t theory—it was a method to see across space and time.Dick quickly rose to the top of the civilian ranks, becoming one of the most prolific and respected remote viewers in the world. With hundreds of documented “hits” on double-blind targets—many published before the events occurred—he’s the most-published remote viewer alive today. His sessions, videos, and predictions have been shared across conferences, symposiums, and millions of screens worldwide.But Dick didn’t stop there.He helped form Future Forecasting Group, a team of elite remote viewers who explore the very mysteries that once filled your late-night drives: UFOs, ancient anomalies, future events, and the seismic shift toward a digital financial system. Their work is rigorous, double-blind, and often jaw-dropping.If you’ve ever wondered what’s really going on—beyond the headlines, behind the veil—this is the place you’ve been waiting for.Explore the archive at FFGRV.com

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's financial stuff. We have a broad range of topics
that we do. So sometime in July, we were given
a tasking and what they do is they select a
target and then they take They create a random number
letter generator creates a random set of letters and numbers.

(00:22):
So what I got in my email was this week's
target is we want you to remote view a one
our zero dash L one and zero. That's to keep
me totally blind. I don't know who did it. I
don't know anything about it. They didn't mention it. One
I Atlas. So I'm sitting down to do this remote viewing.
So I'm at my desk, I have my paper, I

(00:42):
get the dim lights, I put in some theta tones
in my ears, and I'm sitting down to remote view
whatever this target is going to be. As a remote viewer,
you always expect, you have some anticipation that the target
is going to be some segment of the human experience
on planet Earth, Like it's going to be a man

(01:03):
at a desk, or people engaged in some activity, a landscape,
a mountainous city, some buildings, maybe some energy event a
tornado or a fire, an explosion. So you're sitting down
expecting to go somewhere to planet Earth. And as I
address this target, ID I close my eyes, I get

(01:24):
into the proper state, and the first thing I perceived
was motion and mass. I went, this is a big
hunk of something and it's moving really fast. That was
the first idea of the first perception of this shape
like streaking by. I went, now that's interesting. So I

(01:45):
draw that describe it. And this takes some minutes to
get to do the next phase where I'm going to
look again. And I look and I see starlight, Like
I go, wow, that's a field of stars. Why am
I seeing that? And I don't know what it is

(02:07):
I'm supposed to see. I'm just getting this three second flash. Okay,
there's something moving. And then I say, all right, there's something.
I'm in space. Why am I in space? I see starlight?
So I go through my procedure and I look again,
and then I realize I'm looking at the elliptical orbit

(02:28):
of the planets, like the Sun is over here and
here's the planet and there's something else moving through. Wow,
that's interesting. So I continue through about a forty five
minute session and I realized that this target is a

(02:51):
big hunk of something coming through our solar system? And
what am I supposed to know about this? I wasn't.
I hadn't hear about three Eye Atlas before. When I
got the feedback, I called it thirty one Atlas, and
people were making fun of me on YouTube, saying, this
guy didn't even know what this is. No, I didn't.

(03:13):
So then I saw the Sun, and I saw the
Sun throwing out solar flares. And this is what you'll
probably be interested in, Gary, was the solar flares and
three Eye Atlas.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
What is going on with the solar flares and Atlas?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
What I perceived was that this thing is going to
there are going to be solar flares associated with it.
So the idea that I got was I saw the
solar system like, okay, I'm able to see all of

(03:54):
our planets revolving around the Sun, and there's this big
thing that comes s preaking in and that sets off
solar flares. So I don't I never got any data
congruent to an alien spacecraft, Like. I didn't think it

(04:14):
was some metallic thing with nuts and bolts in a
you know, those classic UFO shape with portals and flashing lights.
I got just a big hunk of of matter. So
I don't think it's an I don't think it's a spacecraft.
And I don't think ET spacecraft travel one hundred and

(04:35):
thirty thousand miles an hour, which is that would be
very slow for an ET craft if you were leaving,
like say, I looked this up. I did. I had
ai if you were going from Serious to Earth at
one hundred and thirty thousand miles an hour would take
you forty thousand years. And I think the real ET

(05:00):
have a different means of propulsion than something that goes
a mere one hundred and thirty thousand miles an hour.
So I don't think it's a spacecraft. But I did
get the idea that it was guided, that the trajectory
was being influenced from a different space, like a tractor

(05:21):
being like, uh okay, it's trajectory is influenced from Afar.
And I see your look. You have a quizzical look
on your face, go what could that mean?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, because you know, one thing, too is doing something
that no comment has done is spewing out well carbon monoxide.
And I was also dumping out.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Nickel, yeah, t ennickel, not iron, yeah, And that is weird.
Has it changed speed and trajectory. I've not heard a
credible scientists say that.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It actually has. And it has changed course a little
bit too, and it has speed it up and slowed down.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, so from my remote viewing, and I consider it
to be a valid remote viewing because I did get
the idea of it involves the solar system. It's this
hunk of mass that's moving rapidly, but that it is guided.

(06:35):
That it's now as a remote viewer, you're not omniscient, like,
you don't have godlike capabilities. It may be that what
I was feeling pulling the trajectory was gravity like it
may be gravity guiding it. But my sense of that
that it wasn't that it was something from Afar that
it was. It was it's trajectory was being altered artificially.

(07:01):
That would be the way I would describe what I
got in my remote viewing session. But what felt very
important to me was the solar flare aspect. And this
data was collected and published in July, so two and
a half months ago. I said there's going to be

(07:22):
solar flares associated with this, And after we published this,
there was a there was an article that I saw
where there was a solar flare that shot out right
at the thing. And we're in a period of high
solar activity right now, So could it be that this

(07:45):
Try to put this in words, because concepts come to
you in remote viewing that I don't have the scientific
knowledge to really explain. The solar system is an incredible gear,
a very finely tuned gear, the movement of the planets,

(08:07):
the electromagnetic fields that they have, the whole thing is
a very complex machine. And this thing is coming in
and it's going to influence the gravity, the electromagnetic fields,
and other maybe other fields that we don't understand. Like
it's this finely tuned gear and something's going to upset that.

(08:31):
And what I think we're seeing and might see is
an effect of solar flares, earthquakes and disruptions on Earth.
And I think that's what this is about. Not that
I don't think at is riding aboard it and going
to come swooping into Earth and present themselves.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I really don't a lot of people are mad at
me because I've said this repeatedly. It's just something we
don't know, because I mean, you know where you learn
stuff every day. We're not a very advanced civilization yet,
we're not even a level one civilization yet, Dick, And
you know, something like this is bizarre. You know, first

(09:14):
they said it was three miles wide. Now they're saying
it's about seven miles wide. And the length of it
is this, it's strangely long, and it makes you wonder
what is going on with it because the course that
it's taking is kind of bizarre.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Well, if you want to get really spooky, we have
remote viewing on record from I think four years ago,
four or five years ago where we were tasked with
the disruption of the financial system. We called it the
death of the dollar. And one of the data points

(09:58):
that came up in that is a comet. As a
harbinger is we said there would be a comet appearing
and that would be a harbinger of disruptions within the
financial system. So could this be that?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
It could be, But why would it cause a disruption
in the financial market.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, it may not cause it, but it could be
coincidental to it that that Well, here's the thing. It's
my understanding that this is the sixth there have been
at least six major civilizations on this planet and there's

(10:51):
a cyclical periodic disruption where the old civilization dies out
in a new one comes up. And this might have
to do with the appearance of something like this. I
don't want to get to doom and gloom. You know.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, you know what's going to happen is we're going
to have depending on what we're told or not being told.
And you know, I don't think we're being told the
truth about the comet because they're letting it go over
all the media right the different platforms, and people are
like I said, saying it's the alien craft. Maybe we're

(11:34):
going to be invaded, maybe this, maybe that, And nobody
from NASA. Of course NASA's kind of shut down right now,
but nobody is coming out from the government and telling people, hey, relax,
it's nothing more than a comet. And people, you know,
regardless of the same thing. Like with UFOs, I've had
so many ufologists on it for the last fifty years.

(11:57):
They're saying people will never panic if the government comes
out and says we're being visited, people are being taken
and don't worry about it. And they say people wouldn't panic,
but they would, you know, well, think about it.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I think if they told them people are being taken,
people would panic.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Now even if they would even if they said they
came out and said tomorrow we're being visited by ets
and we can't stop it, You're going to have a
certain popular amount of the population is going to go
into their bunkers. You're going to go out, the people out,
the survivalists, they're going to go out to their encampments,
and the whole stock market everything would start collapsing. Is

(12:41):
It'd be mass panic And a lot of people say
it wouldn't happen, but I guarantee it would.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, it would be more than just the panic, Gary,
it would be the investigations and the recriminations that would start,
because if if they said, well there really have been
at here, we would all realize that they've been telling
us massive lies for all the years, and people would
begin investigating, well, who lied, who ordered the lies? What

(13:09):
else have you been lying about, and what else do
we need to investigate? So that opens a whole can
of worms. That's what we call catastrophic disclosure. On they
once they admit that it's out of the bag, and
everyone's going to start asking a lot of really uncomfortable questions.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
And we can't even get answers right now from Washington,
d C. So if anybody expects disclosure, it's not going
to happen most likely in my lifetime. And the only
way we're going to get really disclosure is but happens
at craft Lands in Washington, d C. In the White
House roof. But you know, here's the point, the Atlas

(13:51):
people are already starting to panic. I you know, I've
been seeing some of the YouTube channels where these survivalists
who are telling people you got to be prepared and
be you know, because we're going to be invaded. Can
you know a lot of people buy into that stuff.
I mean looking at that church in California about ten
years fifteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
That was that was Hailbop. Yeah, that was a major
black eye for the remote viewing community. That was there
were remote viewers that were saying there's it's an alien
craft or there are alien crafts attached to it. There
was one that ed Dames that there was going to
be a plant pathogen that would wipe out all plant

(14:34):
life on Earth. So yeah, there's a bad history. And
that's why I try to be careful and our group
tries to be careful about this. All I'm willing to
say is I don't. I didn't see it as a craft.
I saw it as a a big hunk of something

(14:54):
that may be artificially and it may it's most likely
being artificially controlled or guided.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I wonder why the purpose of it being guided? Is
it too? Maybe sent out drones and and and and
check up like on they said, maybe on Mars and
Earth and see what our civilization is.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
That's possibility. There's another possibility that it's coming in to
cause enough Earth changes to bring in and cleanse out there.
The Earth is like a petri dish. Sometimes they clean
it out and start over again.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
You mean reboot Earth?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Reboot Earth?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Have you That's the question I have for you, Dick.
Have you ever remote viewed? You know, I feel that
Earth has been rebooted once or twice. Have you ever
tried to remote view that?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, we did. It was it was a targets like
I think the target was Grand Canyon. The Grand Canyon
was maybe not totally dug out by the Colorado River.

(16:14):
You know, there is a Grand Canyon on Mars that
is even bigger than our Grand Canyon and that looks
like it was made by an impact. And so the
theory is that Mars had a civilization and Mars had
an atmosphere and something came in Comet, an asteroid or

(16:35):
some celestial body slammed into Mars gouged out this that
I forget what it's called, but it's the Grand Canyon
on Mars, and that may have happened here on Earth.
And we were tasked that and I did get data
about that, and the data that we've had data that

(17:01):
indicates there's a there's a library of DNA that certain
beings have and that they can tailor life to a
given plant, Like they go to a planet and they
can maybe terraform the planet, compute the atmosphere like how

(17:26):
much nitrogen, how much oxygen, how much carbon dioxide, what's
the temperature range going to be, what elevation, what's the
gravitational pull, and then take DNA off the shelf and
tweak life so that it will thrive on this planet,
and that they do that all over the galaxy.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
That is interesting. Have you read this science journal? It
came out this one scientist is saying that humans have
DNA that is between human and the block of the
DNA shows that there's an alien not with all of them,
but a certain percentage of humans have alien DNA.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I just saw that report a couple days ago, and
that backs up that remote viewing that I did. I
saw it, as I called it, the Keeper of the DNA,
and I would say that was one of the top
ten impactful remote viewings that I've ever done, where I
saw this being that was like I would say, Onanaki

(18:37):
like and realized that this was the keeper of the DNA.
This was they have a library and that they can
tailor make DNA and create creatures suitable for whatever environment.
I mean, if you look at a butterfly that opens

(18:59):
its wings and there's a face on it, a praying
mantis that looks exactly like a leaf, all the myriad
forms of life here on Earth that are so fantastic.
Do we think that that just evolved from you know,
cells dividing and spontaneous evolution.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think there was a there was a grander design.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I think so. But have you also ever remote viewed
like when the end of end times will be on
this planet? And what would it cause it?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Boy, that's a heavy target have not. We we do
look at my group future Forecastinggroup dot com. We are
looking ahead to major changes and we're looking primarily at
financial and other things. Like we tasked out what is

(20:10):
Elon Musk's Tesla robot version eight going to look like?
Like that's the kind of target that we look like, like,
what's that robot going to be in the future, Or
we look at the Bobby Kennedy in a hearing some
months ago said they want all humans to wear to

(20:31):
use wearable medical devices, and so we tasked what's the
future of that? Why would they be telling us to
wear medical devices?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm wondering what dick you know, since you're in remote
viewing financial, think about this. You know, they are eliminating
the pennies. They're going to eliminate the dollar bill, which
is going to really be kind of interesting if you
go to the store and you buy something for three
dollars cash. They're eventually wanting to phase out cash. And

(21:04):
you know, and I don't see like a credit card
or debit card being replaced. I think we're going to
be implanted. Have you remote viewed that about people being
implanted to do all your financial and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Not specifically implants, but our data indicates that it is
going to go all digital, that everything will have a
digital certificate, so every transaction is going to be tokenized
and recorded on blockchain technology. The thing that you need

(21:44):
to figure out is everything is based on the dollar.
It's the dollar is the one, Like everything is based
on one dollar. Gold is worth four thousand one dollar
bills right now. Silver is fifty, so it's fifty, but
it's denominated in one dollars. When the dollar goes away,

(22:06):
What is going to be the one? What is what
is the thing that's going to be the basis of
the value of things? Will it be? There's a sub
denomination of bitcoin called Satoshi's that's er point seven zero one.
Is that going to be the one? But our data,

(22:28):
in our remote viewnit is very clear that it's going
to go all digital and that you know, I just
think that people a few years from now are going
to look back at us and say, you, people back
in those old days were crazy. You used to put

(22:49):
you used to put pieces of paper in machines, and
you drive these stacks of these papers around in big trucks,
armored cars and use all this and you would stack
them in a machine, and then someone would come up
and they'd put a piece of plastic in and the
machine would spit out pieces of paper and you would

(23:10):
use that to buy things. You people were crazy, they would,
and I think young people even today in many countries
they don't use cash anymore. One of our remote viewers
in the UK hasn't used cash since COVID.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, you know what's really interesting. I like watching the
old sci fi TV shows and movies, and just a
couple of nights ago, Twilight Zone, one of the earlier
twilight zones, where these bank robbers heist all this gold
and they put it in a cave and then they
go into a deep sleep for like one hundred two

(23:45):
hundred years, and then they wake up and they start
packing the gold up and their car wouldn't start naturally
after sitting so long, and so two of them, you know,
naturally they're greedy because they killed off a couple of buddies.
They're going down this old road with you know, sacks
of gold, and the one guy dies or is killed,

(24:09):
and it's the one guy left. Then he's dying on
the side of the road and then he dies and
these people coming in a floating car, you know, stop
and they get out and they the guy goes, oh,
he's dead.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I a boy.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
And then they look in the bag and it's gold
the bars and the lady goes with that, Oh, back
a couple hundred years ago, they used to use gold
as for you know, financial reasons, and she goes, well,
that's crazy, and that's the same way we're going to
look at the future. Gold is going to be worthless,
platinum is going to be worthless. It's all going to

(24:46):
be digitized, and you know what, even that is worthless.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, I think they will develop the technology and they
called it alchemy back in the day, but I think
shining will be able to use nanotechnology and some type
of artificial intelligence to manipulate to turn lead into gold,
to turn to just change the atomic structure of things,

(25:13):
so then it would be worthless. And they may already
be well on the way to that. But gold and
silver were the you know, the dominant forms of transactions
back in this when they use Spanish galleons, you know,
the days of the Spanish main that ships full of silver.
These days, they're not going to you're not going to

(25:35):
do international trade by moving palettes of gold, and specifically
you're not going to do trade with ET. Uh, They're
not going to be hauling gold around. I think humanity
is coming to a time where we are going to
have open communication and transactions with ET and I think

(25:57):
your program is part of preparing people for that. And
when we go to interstellar commerce, it will be blockchain
that will be that that will be the way to
transmit value. It's the I think that blockchain predates our civilization.

(26:18):
When they say, oh bitcoin, this Satoshi Nakamoto made up
this code that you can make money, I don't think
that was invented by somebody named Satoshi Nakamoto. I think
that is something that has been used by other civilizations
and they were waiting for our civilization, our science to

(26:40):
get to the point where I holding in my hand
this smartphone have enough computing power to do the transactions
where it can track all those things. So I don't
think it's going to be chips right away. I think
it's the smartphone is going to be the first app.

(27:00):
And I do think probably they'll put an implant in
your in your brain that will give you access to
artificial intelligence. I think the technology that we're going to
see in a few years is undreamed of by us.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I'm scared, though, Dick, because you know, even now, some
of these computers you know running AI, they're actually the
AI programs are modifying themselves, which the programmers who programmed
it are saying, oh my god, it can't do it,
but it's doing it. Chat CPI or whatever it is,

(27:39):
was the one that when they upgraded it, it tried
to keep itself and kill off the new one. It's
that's what I'm scared about. You know. I think AI
is going to advance to a certain point where it's
going to look at humanity and says you're nothing more
than insects. You don't deserve to live. That's what I'm
scared of, because they're going to find all the bad

(28:02):
parts of humanity and they're going to analyze it and say, ah,
that's bad. We got to get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I want to talk a little bit about AI to
plug a remote viewing conference that's coming up, if I may.
I'm not putting this on, but I'm presenting at it.
It is called Enigma Con. There's a group of remote
viewers that trained with the Hawaii Remote Viewers Guild and
they've been something of a secret society for the past

(28:33):
four years. They've been training, training, training, and they don't
go out in public, but they do a lot of targets.
They meet twice a week. There's a couple dozen really
good viewers and they're kind of uncloaking, and so they're
doing this conference and the website is Enigma like e
and I an IgM a Enigma RV Enigma RV dot

(28:59):
com and the conference is going to be November first
and second, Saturday and Sunday, starting at ten am, and
they're going to charge forty five dollars for both days.
Like it's not a lot of money, and it's not
just going to be zoom. We've done really good pre

(29:20):
produced videos, so what you'll see the presenter won't just
come on and do a screen share on Zoom, which
is just awful. We've done professional quality videos that will
be presented online and then the audience at the conclusion
of the video will get a chance to interact and

(29:40):
ask questions. And we're also going to be doing some
free remote viewing training, giving a little instruction and the
five people who do the best on a target will
get a free ten week remote viewing course. Okay, that's
my plug. Thank you Gary for letting me do that
problem about the RV. One of the researchers in India

(30:01):
has been working with AI wondering could AI remote view?
What if you gave remote AI and said this is
a remote viewing target, and then you taught the AI like,
here's the protocol. You do a spontaneous ideogram, then you

(30:23):
probe it and then you get sensory data and then
you assemble that into a site sketch and you instruct
the AI how to remote view, and then you give
it the target. Okay, AI, your target is using these
instructions that we gave you. The target is A one, B, two,
C three D four. Could AI give you congruent data

(30:44):
to a known target? And I initially thought nonsense, not possible,
AI is, there's no possible way. It needs that human
consciousness element. AI doesn't really have human consciousness and remote viewing.
It needs intent of a human being to make an

(31:06):
association and then to go into the consciousness field that
AI shouldn't have access to. But this researcher in India
who's part of this group Enigma Cavin has done some tests,
and he showed some of his initial findings and it

(31:27):
spooked me. I was like, oh, that can't be. So
he's going to be doing a whole presentation that's going
to be worth the price of admission right there, ken
if AI can access consciousness. And I'll tell you this
is a really interesting story, and I've never told this
one in public. I did a remote viewing test where

(31:52):
I said, okay, I want to just for fun, all
of you people that are remote viewers, or even someone
with no t I have a picture of a person,
draw the person, and so I gave it a target ID,
and I put it out and people emailed in their session.
A lot of people do stick figures and clown faces,

(32:15):
and you know, an old man or the young you know,
a lot of nonsensical stuff. A couple of people drew.
The target I picked was Henry David Threaux, an old
picture of him in the nineteen eighties, This old guy.
Somebody sent in the exact It looked just like him.

(32:37):
And so I said to that person, you have some
real psychic ability. You won the prize, like I'm I
gave a cash prize of five hundred dollars I'll send
you the five hundred dollars. Who are you? And the
guy said, I'm a researcher. I'm working with quantum computing
and AI and I fed your target into that and

(32:59):
I said, you're kidding me, And so I said who
are you? And he gave me I'm not going to disclose.
I'm not going to out him here. He gave me
his name and we researched him and he is a
known researcher with published PhD credentials who is working with
quantum computing and he used this quantum computer to draw

(33:22):
the face that only I knew. I know that I'm
the only person that had access to So that kind
of blew our mind and we kind of dropped it
at that.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Dick, we're out of time now. You wouldn't share your
website and if you've got to copy your book, you
can hold up for the people that would be great.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Don't have a book yet. It's FFGRV dot com. That's
our private site where you can see all of our
remote viewing ffg r V and if you're interested in
the remote viewing conference this November, it is enigma RV
dot com. The word like it sounds, Enigma RV dot com.

(34:06):
It's a nonprofit organization. No one's making money off that.
It's just to promote remote viewing. One of our uh,
one of our people created a being in consciousness, gave
it life through remote viewers doing it and the findings
that he's going to present it that's going to there's
some amazing stuff. So yeah, those are the sites. F

(34:28):
f G RV dot com, Enigma RV dot com.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Thanks Gary, and I want to thank you so much
for you know, we had those atmospheric conditions of the
ionic sphere get negative charged where we couldn't get on
the air on time tonight. And again I want to
thank you for bearing with that. And again we'll get
you back on in a couple months and we'll have
more conversations.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yes, I thank you for putting up with I may
have been me causing that trouble. You're most gracious. Thank you, Gary.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Okay, my friend, you take care, Helloha bye, Well JC.
Who do we have next?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Well, next we have mister doctor Gregory Rogers. He's going
to be calling in with some updates. A matter of fact,
kind of ties in with what we were talking about
with the three I Atlas and so people know mister
doctor Rogers, he's a thirty year retired NASA flight surgeon.

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(36:22):
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Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, I was just thinking of some of the old
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Speaker 2 (40:11):
Well, we got another guest calling in. Let's me get
him online, and we got them online. So let's see
who do we have there?

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Hello? Uh, hello, this is Greg Rogers.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Well Greg, how are you doing? My friend? Are you
staying out of trouble this Friday night?

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Well, you know that's sometimes harder than that. There's it is.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
You know, I want to just say before what you
have to say, what you're going to give a report on.
I'm getting more confused about the three I Atlas. You know,
you know I didn't know is this I just want
to say that, you know, depending on who you listen to,
I'm starting to well, part of me feels it's nothing
more than a comment, but the other half of me says, hey,

(41:06):
it's a craft of some sort.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Well, it is more than puzzling. It's extremely difficult to
explain from a natural standpoint. Now, then, on some of
the podcasts that have been on recently and talking about

(41:31):
three three High Antless, especially the one with Linda Milton
how I was describing how the nickel chemistry bothers me
because you know, when I was the chief of Aerospace Medicine,
that kid canever on. Working at Kennedy Space Center. Our

(41:54):
spacecraft were specially developed with nickel alloy that were very specific.
And so if our Space Shuttle, the Voyager one and
Voyager two, the Hubble Space Telescope, all of these kind

(42:20):
of craft, we are utilizing nickel alloys. But now to
get nickel alloys, the universe creates it in a massive
explosion with the star and it always creates iron and
nickel together, so in natural sources you can't find one

(42:44):
without the other. However, as humans, we want to get
rid of the iron and just use the nickel, and
so we go through manufacturing processes to do this. And
so this is what we did at NASA, this is
what we did for the USR force, in space launches,

(43:08):
for satellites. We even use it in like F fifteens
and F sixteens because of the structural consistency that these
specific alloys give us. So that disturbs me tremendously. Because
there's no iron. It is totally unnatural for three I

(43:33):
Atlas to not have iron.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I actually have.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
To have the nickel alloys. You know, that's something else.
You know, we've had the abnormal carbon signature that was
supposed to be diatomic carbon, except it doesn't look like
it really is. And so the more we look at
this thing, the more troublesome if comes. And one of

(44:02):
the things that I just came across over the last
two days was that there have been times that repeating
pattern has been detected at eleven point two seconds repeating. Well,
if you turn eleven point two seconds into hurts, meaning frequencies,

(44:26):
that's going to come out to five point three six hurts. Now,
this is an extremely low frequency. We're not talking about
killer hurts or mega hurts. We're talking about five point
three six hurts. That means in one minute it you

(44:47):
will only get five point three six cycles of the
wave that will pass any point during that time frame. Now,
then one of the things that disturbs me about this
is that I'm in the International UFO Bureau and on

(45:10):
the Board of Directors, and there's a researcher who is
looking at some of the strange signals that have been
detected from UAPs, and they're focusing on one that's at
five point oh four hurts. Well, five point oh four

(45:31):
herts and five point three six hearts is very little difference,
and it is at such a low frequency that there's
not a whole lot of anything you can do with
these frequencies. Now, then, being in the military as I was,
I do know of one thing in particular that these

(45:51):
frequencies were used for and are being used for. When
you send the submarine deep underwater, if you try to
send radio waves, they're going to get disturbed by the ocean,
by its currents, by its chemicals, the waveforms, and all

(46:16):
of that. So the way to avoid getting the signal
garbled is to go extremely low. That's why whale songs.
They're so low that it travels through the water easily,
and so a whale can talk to another whale one

(46:38):
thousand miles away, and then that whale can talk to
another whale one thousand miles away, and within a period
of time that signal could be transferred all the way
around the Earth by the whales. Well, we have nuclear
submarines that go underwater, and when they go underwater, regular

(47:03):
radio waves cannot touch them, so they have these specially
low frequency communication devices, Well, if we are using it
in this pattern, if there are USOS underwater submersibles that

(47:29):
are unidentified or potentially at the bottom of the ocean,
that there would be bases for non human intelligence. If
they're going to send signals like this through the water,

(47:49):
the physics of what they do would be similar to
what we would do, and so we would use an
extremely low frequency like this. And so if we can
see that there's a suspicion of a five point oh
four hurts from UAPs, and then at the same time

(48:11):
three I atlas is sending out repeating signals eleven point
two seconds, which would be the equivalent of five point
three six hurts. That's an amazing coincidence that we would
be looking at very similar frequencies from UAPs in the

(48:35):
same fashion that we would be looking at the three
I atalysts. Now, Auby Lobe is doing a great job
of bringing forward a lot of the things that are abnormal.
But to me, you know, when I've been speaking about
three I adlasts, I really focus on the chemistry because

(48:57):
nickel does not form in the universe by itself. Yeah,
but you know the way you get it by itself
is to manufacture it.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, but Greg, it's also spewing other stuff out that
we've never seen. In another comment too, I mean it's
putting out some really weird stuff.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Sure, there's all kinds of stuff. You know, there's abnormal cyanogens.
But the water to CO two ratio normally would be
three or four to one for water to carbon dioxide,
but in this one, the carbon dioxide is eight to

(49:38):
one in relationship to CO two to water. So you're
talking about an entire order magnitude incorrect amount of CO
two being produced. The more you look at it, the
worse it gets. Now, one of the things that has

(49:59):
really caught my tension is how much have you heard
about the findings of three i ad lists since it
passed Mars? Now that there are five or six satellites
that are circling Mars and they are all or we're
all in a position from the first to the third

(50:23):
of October to get some really terrific pictures of three idolists.
Where are they?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Well, they're blaming it on the government shutdown, but you
know there's other world governments out there that have, you know, capabilities,
and they're not releasing it either.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Yeah, Well, the European Space Agency didn't shut down, the
Chinese Space Agency didn't shut down. And normally, you know,
when you look at other countries around the world, if
India or Japan or China had a chance to scoop

(51:06):
the United States and bring forth data that the US
is slow to present, they would be doing that. But
there's nobody that is presenting their data.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Well, they're hiding it from the population.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
Well, but what on earth would be the reason that
you would want to hide pictures of a comment passing Mars.
That's ridiculous, that's why, unless there's something else that they

(51:46):
don't want us to know.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Well, again, part of me says, oh, Gary, it is
a comment. The other part says, hey, Gary, this is
a craft. It could be a millionaires old. Maybe the
occupants in it are long gone, but you know, or
maybe it's it's run by you know, artificial intelligence and

(52:08):
it's gathering information. But here's the thing too, it's made
some uh course changes too, which a comet doesn't do.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Now, well, imagine our voyager satellite. It has the two
satellites have passed beyond the heliosphere, meaning it has basically
left the influence of our Sun. Now, then they're going
to keep flying through space. Someday one of these satellite

(52:42):
or the spacecraft that that we launched could enter another
solar system, and all of a sudden it's going to
uh start reacting to the effects of the Sun for
that solar system. If there's a planet with intelligent life

(53:04):
and they start looking for chemical signatures, they're going to
see the same kind of chemical signatures from our voyager
craft that we're seeing from three iye atlas. They're not
going to see any iron because we didn't put any
iron in it. We selectively made nickel alloys of several

(53:28):
different types. Well, when we look at the three I atlas,
we're seeing nickel alloys, not just random nickel, but nickel alloys,
and there is no iron. Well, we designed Voyager to
do that. Somebody somewhere may have done the same thing

(53:51):
for this three I atlas, and that's why we're seeing these.
But then when you start saying, well, hold it a second.
If we are studying five point zero four hurts because
we are potentially detecting this from UAPs on the Earth
and in our skies, underwater and this sort of thing,

(54:15):
And then we look up at three I atlas and
it's at five point three six hurts. Well, that is
way too close to just you say this is a
random event. You got to be kidding me.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
It isn't.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Out of all of the frequencies that the universe produces.
If these signals at eleven point two seconds are being
detected as pulses, the hurts frequency is going to be
five point three six. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
It's going to be scary too we find out what
it's going on, because who knows what is going to
to do When it comes by and by on the
other side of the Sun and comes towards Earth. They're saying, Oh,
don't worry, it's going to be a long ways from Earth.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
But it's not going to come close to Earth. No
it's not. It's already No, it's already come as close
as as it's going to come to Earth. It's going
to head out the other side of the Solar System.
But you know, that's when we talk about a hyperbolic course.
We're talking about one where it does not circle back.

(55:32):
So it is not going to circle back at the
Earth unless there are beans on this thing, and it
is a spacecraft and they intentionally change it. But with
the path that we have been noting, it's going to

(55:53):
pass out of the Solar System to never return again.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, well, I don't worry about that when we got
a whole bunch of commets falling behind it, which is kind.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Of like five of them.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Yeah, our Solar system has plenty of comets, and it
only took one to wipe out the dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Oh yeah, you know again, you were going to talk
about you know, UFOs on that, Uh, what did you
want to cover on that?

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Well, to a certain extent, you know, in looking at
UFOs UAPs, we have to consider where are they coming from? Now,
if the universe has billions and billions of stars, and

(56:49):
there's more than four billion stars just in our Milky
Way galaxy, somewhere around these stars are going to be
planets and around each plant and there's going to be
the forms of the life developing. Because even when when
we look at uh space rocks deep out in space,

(57:11):
we see amino acids and chemical signatures that are consistent
with organic chemistry. So if if we have all of
these different stars that have planets that are developing, all
these uh different types of intelligent form forms of life,

(57:38):
you know, just just think about Earth.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
You know, on.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Australia it got separated, and so it's the only place
where there are on my mind's blink. H. Kangaroos. H.
If you're going to look for kangaroos in North America

(58:03):
except in a zoo or somewhere that you do this,
you're never going to find one. No matter how much
you look in North America. Before any kangaroos are transferred
to our continent, you're never going to find one. But
does that mean it's not there, No, it just means

(58:24):
that it's in Australia.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
And so.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
In the same fashion, there could be planets around solar systems,
and some of them are known to us, some of
them aren't. Some of them know us. If they are
more advanced than us, they may have been watching us
all the way back to ancient times. And when you
look at all the ancient civilizations, every one of them

(58:53):
said that there were gods coming from the sky to
do things. You know, even in the Bible, Elijah went
to get on a fiery chariot, It came down, it
got him, he got on board, and it took off. Well,
you know, those people didn't know how to say rockets

(59:17):
or anything like that. And so they said it was
a fiery chariot. Well, if those same people watched a
space shuttle launch and they saw these people get into
this big, huge metal thing and it takes off and
it's loud and there's fire and there's smoke, what are
they going to say. Well, the fastest thing they know

(59:37):
of is a chariot. So they're going to say, well,
it was this strange chariot that carried them up into
the sky. Well it's not a chariot, it was a
space shuttle. Well we don't know what other people in
ancient days have seen. Well we know that they saw
all of these things, then we should believe them. We

(01:00:00):
do have proof.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Look in some of the caves they found, you know
where men were like had space shuts on, spacesuits on,
with helmets flying in the sky on some type of craft.
I mean they and if you also look at the Incas,
the Mayas, look at the Pyramids technology, we didn't have

(01:00:23):
no way could we build it. I think we were visited.
I think the word gods because you know, if you
go back in history, back to Cane and enable then
go forward, you know, gods where the fire god, the
god of water, the god of this, the god of
the cave. You know, men have always had to have

(01:00:44):
something to believe in, so that's been a god. But
to think about it, if the pyramids and the Incas
and the Mayas, why did they have their technology and
create the pyramids all around the world. It tells me
that we were visited and that maybe was where our

(01:01:04):
gods started from.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
Well that's what they tell us for where they got
it from. They say they got it from the god's
whether it's the Onanaki in the Middle East and the
Zazi in the Four Corners area of the US, if
you're talking about the Aztecs, the Incas, the Mayans, they're
all saying gods came down in flying vehicles and taught

(01:01:31):
us to do all these things. And so we have
this on every every continent except Antarctica. But we have
the history of the people who were there saying these
are what we saw, and we're going to draw diagrams,

(01:01:55):
we're going to give descriptions. And yet you know, ten
thousand years later, we're going to have people at university saying, well,
those people said that's what it was, but that's not
what they really meant. No, that is what they meant,
and that's why they drew the things. That's why the

(01:02:18):
mythology is there, because they were telling what they saw.
We are telling Congress what we're seeing now, and we're
still not being believed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
So well, yeah again, Tim, you know the guy who's
leading the Congress fight about disclosure. Just a few days ago,
a reporter asked him, is there ets on Earth? And
you said there is et underwater basis he said positively.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Well, see, that's what I was talking about with the frequencies.
You know, if you're going to use extremely low frequencies,
you know you're talking about three hurts to thirty hurts,
and so those are the type of frequencies that are
used to communicate the submarines. Well, if they have bases underwater,

(01:03:12):
that their ocean is the same ocean we have. And
so if we are seeing UFOs UAPs that are utilizing
these kind of frequencies like five point zero four herts,
and then we look into space and we see three

(01:03:33):
I at lesson it's using five point three six herts.
How many times do we have to have things beat
us over the head before we say, you know, there
really is a pattern to this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
It is, hey, greg we're out of time now you're
going to be back on in two weeks, aren't you.
And also, why don't you tell the people the name
of your book? They need to go out.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Well, the name of the book is We Got It
from Them. And I chose that name because that's what
the guy told me when he showed me the video
of the flying saucer when I was at Cape Canaveral.
But you know, I tried to make this book to
where people can understand different elements of how, you know,

(01:04:28):
being a flight surgeon for the Air Force and NASA,
how I look at all of this. But I also
tell some history of things that happened to me so
that they can get a feeling of you know, if
you've never been in the military, what kind of things
can happen? Well, man, all kinds of things can happen.
So I put that in the book too, And so

(01:04:49):
We Got It from Them is available on Amazon. So
you just look on Amazon. Everybody knows how to find Amazon,
and look under doctor Gregory Rogers and there's the book.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Great book too. I read it like twice already, and
I'm going to read it a third time here very shortly.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Well, Greg, we'll I wanted to explain things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
We got that a lot of times people here, but
they don't know really what it means.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
So no, I mean, that's what I did with with
my book, and I hope that's what you noticed that,
even with technical terms, let's explain what it means to
the average person. And then then all of a sudden
they say, oh, no matter, you know what has been

(01:05:47):
said by the government. These things are real.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
They are you know. I have to say this, Greg.
My wife read the book too, and she loved it too.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
Well, that's great. So that's what what that's the reason
I wrote it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Yeah, it's a great read. Okay, my friend, we'll catch
you again in two weeks and again you have you
have a great weekend, my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
Okay, thank you. You have one too, uh huh, good bye.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Well JC.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Let's take one call in if anybody wants to call in,
and I will give this out for let's see here
maybe let's see okay, here here it is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Our call in line is now open. The number is
one two five, three, two six zero fifty seven thirteen.
That's one two five, three, two six zero, fifty seven thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
And if anybody wants to call in, we'll take one
call in before we wrap up the show. But you know,
look at this the three Ie Atlas jac is doing
some many funny, weird things.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
I tell you that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
It is, and that's what's got everybody talking as whatever.
It's got everybody buzzing with all these theories and TikTok's
blowing up in Twitter. But it's doing things that you know,
common or asteroid, whatever you want to call it has
never done before. It doesn't fit the category. So yeah,
there's a lot going on here. And listen, who better
to talk about the scientists like a thirty year retired

(01:07:26):
NASA flight surgeon than doctor Gregory Rogers.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Oh yeah, and you know, I really enjoy having them on.
Here's another thing too, I find very very interesting, you know,
to communicate to radio stations, and not radio stations but submarines. God,
why am I saying radio stations? That's on my mind?

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
What it is is their intena. A lot of people
don't realize how their intenna works. And their antenna is
not in the water, it's in land and it can
be up to a mile or so long because it
transmits in a real low frequency and that's how they
communicate to you know, submarines.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Yeah, it's a whole different kind of technology than most
people convision visualizing in what's going on. But yeah, and
these are that's why these things work and and those signals.
Everything is so does not fall under the category of
what it should be, and that's what's got everybody buzzn't.
But the main thing, one of the big things is

(01:08:30):
the nickel iron ratio. There's no iron at all, and
the molecular structure of what's going on with what the
nickel is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Also besides copping and oxide, it's also putting out well,
all kinds of different poison gases coming out of it.
That's the interesting thing too. And again that this makes
me wonder. We won't know here for uh, towards the
middle or the latter part of December, what that atlas

(01:09:01):
is doing, work's going if it shifts course or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
We got a color?

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Who do we have?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
We got art?

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Art? How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
Hi? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
Both of them have interesting but it seems to really
throw a lot into the mix of having like remote
viewing versus somebody having a premonision or having a dream
something coming and then coming now to be true. The
mind is so you know, wondrous the abilities. So the

(01:09:36):
other questions too, that we have so many different alien
ships or maybe even ours out there, is that if
they can go and push it, if they can this
rock or whatever, because they had a lot of videos
where rockets were being shot down by some orb cutting it,
not letting it go going. There was a media I

(01:09:58):
think was in Russia and they showed us like orbit
hit this thing and like you could see it go
right through it. You can see the orb coming out.
Is it something like they were saving us? You know?
At least it was a lot of questions. But I
just wanted to tell those guys if they see anything
like that, that with all the technologies of all these
different species or their craft's abilities, wouldn't they want to

(01:10:22):
save this earth that they're here like it also involves
their lives too. And one last thing would be the
explosion of an atomic bomb or adam bomb or whatever.
It destroys the distortion of the of our what they
want to call it dimension or whatever, and it destroys
them and they don't like our nuclear bombs, so and

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all that seems to be like are we safe or
you know, or is it something that you know that
fate demand that the meter is going to come and
do something that's going to do it? You know, like
are we going to get help? I just wanted to
ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I don't know. I don't think they're going to come
and help us. I really don't. I mean we're naive.
I mean if they were going to help us, think
about this art. Look at from beginning of mankind, we've
killed each other off. We're in wars NonStop. We had
several viruses, more than several, all through history that killed

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off a huge amount of the population. They never came
up and stepped up and said, oh, here's a vaccine,
here's an antidote, you know, going back to what happened
in England and London. How many people died there, the
Spanish American flew going back even you know other viruses

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that Tom they never helped us. They never helped us.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
What about what he said, someone like we're like a
Petri dish or we're like if they're going to come
here and clean us up a little bit, meaning that
then we have no choice to be under control of
something higher beings, uh their intentions where to put us.
Like they say, Adam and Eves type thing was like
a h of a DNA structural thing where they are

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uh doing highbriding of different things. I mean, it's an
interesting topic of stuff that can go further into different
uh directions. And you know, to us to believer fatom
that's true that these things are here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
How about it this, Art, think about this maybe before
I let you go, I'm going to say this. Maybe
we're nothing more than an experiment.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
Yeah, yeah, well they're nice to us, some of us.
I haven't think there was a move on meeting when
one guy said we never had them. Ever we found
that none has ever been killed by them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Oh come on, come on now, I'm going to jump
in here, Art, I'm gonna say this. No, they people
haven't been killed by ets. JC jump in in on
this too. I disagree with that. I've seen pictures from
a retired CIA operative that has passed away that human

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mutilations where they killed the person and basically pulled out
their inners out of a hole size but dime. I've
seen cattle mutilations where you know, one after another. People
have gone missing, people have been experimented and hurt and
tortured on the craft, you know, being taken aboard. Do

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I think they have not killed anybody? I disagree. I
think they have killed millions of humans for his men
been barking on this earth.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, jac wants to say something.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
You can also look up they see these all facts.
Nineteen seventy seven, the Brasol Brazil, South American incident. There
was a whole three four months to a year of
a lot of people getting and I won't just look
that up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
And then I've seen those pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Yeah, yeah, And then there's the whole Phil Schneider he
stumbled a bunch of rays down underneath Dulcie allegedly, and
there was a whole shootout with aliens and green berays
and there were some people that didn't come back up
the hole. Let's say that up the shaft.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
And then again, you know, remember when we had Terry
Lovelace son Harry Lovelace talking about you know, humans being
put in basically tubes was liquid and the craft took off.
They've taken people, They've done this. If anybody thinks that
they're here to help me. I don't think. I think
what they're doing is they look at us the same

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way as when we sit there and experiment on animals.
You know, we used to do that with hair shampoo.
We take poor little dogs and basically kill them off
to find out if they're going to be allergic to
this shampoo or that shampoo. That all happened in the sixties.
If you think in all the Japanzees and all they

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in rats and all this stuff, that we then supposedly
humanely kill them afterwards after the experiment, don't you think
if they're so far advanced then us, they could be
doing the same thing to us.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
Yes, yes, I bet I have a you know, on
the lighter side of that question is also people like
myself and others who have been put and driven maybe
to drive our vehicle and wake up down the street
and going, how do that thing do that to me?
Though I'm still alive? And then you know those who
have been in saying that they had been lots of time,

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but they're still here. I mean, can we say that
there's a good one result?

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
What is good about that?

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
JC?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Is it a good thing? If you're sitting there and
you're in car, and you have a lot of time,
and you're down ten miles away from where you started.
Is that a good thing? What were they doing right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Anything along those lines. That's a deception anytime you're getting
false memories, these are negative actions to cover things up.
A lot of people think, oh, it's to help us,
so we don't, you know, remember these bad things. Hello,
think about what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, imagine if
I took someone up the street and beat them up
a little bit and then hypnotize them so they wridn't

(01:16:29):
remember anything but nice things about me. That's basically the
same thing. You know, it's a negative action to cover
up your actions. It's not because all I feel sorry
for the guy after I beat him up. I don't
want to remember these bad memories.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
But look how many people go missing worldwide every year.
And you know, again, I've had people on the show
that claim that they've been aboard to craft where they
saw human bodies cut up in pieces. So, I mean
you heard that. Even Andrew, who's been on their show

(01:17:06):
numerous times, he's a lawyer. He talks about what they
used to do with young kids that the military would
put them on a pallette and ets would come down
and collect the body parts. Tell if that is any
of that step is true, then we got a serious problem.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Well, there's a whole X factor here. You can't just
put it on an umbrella, because there probably is some
good ones, but there's pious and a lot of bad
ones too. You but how do you discern which is which?

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
It's like looking at a group of humans. Listen, you know,
some of them serucos look like your next door neighbor.
You would never dream would be somebody bad. But they've
got a checklist, you know, fifty deep buried in the yard.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
You just don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
How do you discern?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
You know, I don't want to find out.

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
Exactly the thing that i'd had was with that object.
When I looked, I caught it, and it stopped and
I stared at it, and then all of a sudden,
I told it. I said, I'm gonna sit and watch
and see what you do. I ended up three blocks
down the street. But in this case, that when I
was with my friend and the one popped out, he
knocked out but woke up, but I was driving, and

(01:18:18):
so I watched it until it disappeared and then he
woke up. These are the kind of things that of
other issues that I had people next to me pass
out and standing up and the others still looking at
it with me. So I just didn't know what to
put to that perspective that, Yeah, it wasn't probably saying
he's fight saying hey, well you know you can't see me,

(01:18:38):
this one can, or hey I got to move you
because you caught me. So maybe it wasn't that ordeal
to put me in could it could throw me off
a cliar that could have made me wreck, and thank
god it didn't. So when I went home from moof
on that and I was scared, I said, oh my god,
I just don't do it to me on the way home.
And when the guy said that that mof on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Yeah, but you just said the magic word, right, he says, scared?
And how about some of the people that you've talked
to I've talked to, you know that had different types
of encounters and then their whole life is messed up
for the rest of their life. Yes, I see that
that does damage too.

Speaker 6 (01:19:16):
Right, they're scared? Yes, was yeah, I get I get you.
You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
No, I'm not saying I'm not saying there isn't good ets.
I'm sure there is good ets. But you know, just
like humans, you've got good humans and you got bad humans.
But you know, I mean, I just to this point too,
we get some more honest for God answers from our government,
which I don't think is ever going to happen, at

(01:19:43):
least in my lifetime. We're never going to really know,
that's the whole problem.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
Hey, that's why we're listening to your show. That's why
I do, you know, so you know, thank you Gary
and for all your help on this, because I mean, again,
this is something that we need to talk about. This
is what we don't really get from the public. He said.
Some people that I know are scared. I mean they're scared,
and they whisper to me. And when you're whispering, but
you know, they're afraid of Some have children and families.

(01:20:11):
When they didn't they were all talking about it. When
they got families, they didn't want it to go to
their families, so they just stop thinking about it or
even going into the subject. So yeah, I agree with
all that, but I do think that, Yeah, I think
all my encounters were Hey, you caught me. I want
to move you. Hey you caught me. No, we're not

(01:20:32):
going to let your friends see you because he ain't worthy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Of looking at it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
So this is something that I don't say. Again. This
is why we have to keep on talking about this subject.
And this is because you're giving me answers because of
your guest speakers, they're adding into me to help me
so and help others. But because I got friends, they're
now listening and they're getting into it, and then they're
starting to have that view.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
So I think that.

Speaker 6 (01:20:58):
Where our minds are too much into this world of which,
like you said, this chaos, and we don't think about
these things that are watching us, probably doing ourselves in
you know, probably laughing I don't know, or saying this
amount are going to die and this amount are going
to live. Who knows. Again, we just got to keep
on digging in and find these answers. So I appreciate

(01:21:19):
your time as you give me, and and everybody that's
listening and coming in on us, you know, to put
in there. You know, they're they're there, their their senses
into it to give you, to give us all a
different perspective. And yeah, we can agree and disagree, but
you know, I guess when you really feel it, yeah,
you feel inside, and I will agree with you. My

(01:21:42):
friends they were you can see their nervousness as you
can see how they react. So it's really it's really scarred.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Well yeah, but I but art. I have had friends
I developed through the years doing this show or doing
shows of this nature where they're terrify to go to
bed at night, male and female. They're scared because they've
been abducted. They don't want to be abducted anymore, so
they go to bed, they put a three eighty coat

(01:22:11):
or whatever, a gun on their you know, night table
next to the bed because they don't want to be abducted.
They're terrified if they're married and have kids, that their
kids could be abducted too, and it does trauma to
them to the day they die. And that's what I
keep saying. Yes, we got move on. We got some

(01:22:33):
other agencies out there, you know, but no place really
where you can call up really and say, hey, I've
been really abducted. I need help, right, that's what we
need more of out there, and we really do. I
appreciate you calling in and you know, again I'm not
saying every ET is bad because I don't know, but

(01:22:56):
I do know I've seen some evidence of bad eat
what they have done, and that is what scares me.
So you have a great weekend art.

Speaker 6 (01:23:06):
Okay, Yeah, thank you guys. Okay, buddy, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
What's your take on it?

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
My take?

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
The thing is, it's like anything else. It seems that
the whole universe, I think, even with ets, it all
falls down to there's good ones and bad ones and
probably middle of the road ones. The problem is you
can't especially there's something that we don't really know much about.
How do you just discern and then listen, you know
how big the universe is, or error or interdimensional beings,

(01:23:41):
we don't even know where they're even coming from, the
vastness of it. The different species is just there's a
whole lot of variables that go into this. So if
anybody can think they can discern it. And then you know,
here's another red flag. Lost time. That's a red flag
if you have lost time, if you think about it,
don't you think so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Gary, Well, I've had lost time. You know again that
my encounter in the mid seventies in the desert of
New Mexico. And then one time back about twenty years ago,
I was, you know, coming from Tacoma back to where
I live, and I ended up thirty miles away from
where I live. I didn't even know how I got there.

(01:24:23):
All of a sudden, All of a sudden, I like,
I came too and I pulled off to the size
of the road and I'm going, I'm thirty some miles
the wrong direction of my house. And I was told
I was totally coherent before that. But then I try
to put the time together, like how did this happen?
And I still can't.

Speaker 5 (01:24:43):
I have no answer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Another scientist, Jacy came forward here this past week and said,
the odds are us being a living being is almost nil.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
A program running, Oh oh yeah, oh yeah, there's a
lot of that out there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Here's here's the thing. A simulation will keep simulating until
you figure out you are a similation that's been simulated,
and when that happens, that proves of assimilation. It's kind
of hard to fathom that. But that's kind of like
where we're at, which is weird.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
I don't know. Isn't life really confusing when you think
about it? Now, who's our guests for the next two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Well, let's just see who we got going. Oh hey,
next next Thursday, we have mister Michael Bautista coming on now.
He's former military green beret. He's part of that SkyWatch
team that summon's in UFOs. He's part of that team
there with Jake Barber and some other people that do this.
And then let's see here on the twenty third, we

(01:25:52):
have Jonathan Waygrant come or way Grant coming on now.
He was in the military in nineteen ninety seven in
Peru and they came upon a UFO crash that was
oozing stuff and he got stuff on him and other,
you know, underst other military people came that had new
insigney and kind of took over and got a little

(01:26:15):
bit of beef. It's the whole story. You got to hear.
It's very fascinating. And then on the twenty fourth, we
have mister Timothy Phillips come on. He's the former director
of a a r O on UFOs. You don't want
to miss that one. And then coming the thirtieth, we
have Joe Clifford come on talking about shadow people. And
then we're going round out the month on Halloween with

(01:26:36):
Thomas Jane, and he's going to be talking about acting.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Kay, who's Thomas Jane.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
He's an actor. He's gonna be talking about his some
acting and some scary stuff and UFOs and a lot
of good fun stuff. But you know he's gonna be
followed up by mister Ron Fitszgerald talking about scary vampire
stories and boy, I've gotta tell you something, gay, there's
a ton of those out there, real ones from specially
on TikTok. It seems like New Orleans is woaded with them.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Now, Also, Ron Fitzgerald has been in many of movies
and TV shows and all that as you know, like
vampires and stuff like that too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Yeah, didn't you two been trying to get me on
a coffin for about eight years now not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
You know, he's the only person I know it actually
slept in a coffin.

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Yeah, that one story where yeah, we can't say that
we might have no children listening.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Yeah, but anyway, Hey, you meet a girl, Hey, you
want to come to my apartment?

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Uh no, I don't have a bed, but I got
a coffin. Yeah, come to my we can close the
lid because I got roommates. They won't see anything.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
It's a double wide coffin.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Yeah it wasn't a double white. No, that's closed up
and personal.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Yeah yeah, I had just come up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Yeah, so you know what we'd have is we don't
have repetitive guests like a lot of shows have. And
I hope you guys all enjoy it. And again, please
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Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
And doesn't there a hyper button now that the people
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hundred and fifty seven thousands describers on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Oh yeah, I think we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
I think we had three hundred and fifty six something
in James right now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Fifty six Oh yeah, by early next week. Yeah, we'll
definitely be over that. For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
We'll be by it bye, probably by monday. I can
feel it in my bones. Well, everybody, I want to think, Well,
who was on there? Was thinking real quick?

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Oh, we got all color of people. We got X
question Mark, we got Rory Uh she's who also was
on here? X seven Yeah, X question Mark, Barb was
on here. There was of course, we had Art on there,
and we had another gentleman. We had some new jet people. Oh, Dory,
Wayne was on there. He donated a dollar, Thank you, Dory.

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We had a cat Town Cattown, Yeah, cat Town. We
had Woo writers, d g Auzy.

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
So there's a few few new people on there tonight. Yeah.

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