3i/ATLAS The Real Story Marc D" Antonio

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Marc D'Antonio is a notable Astronomer, Director SkyTour LiveStream Observatories, CEO of FX Models, a model making and special effects company specializing in digital/physical models, and organic special effects in the film industry and Mutual UFO Network’s (MUFON) Chief Photo/Video Analyst. Marc will be doing a never-before-seen presentation at this year's CITD event, live streaming from a remote observatory in the Arizona Desert, where he will showcase amazing objects in the sky!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whose friends all the night Dreamers tucking at night Gary
on the radio, But maybe he's not on the side.
The song is still buying you a pose.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Gary's talks your radio Wednesday, Thursday and Friday night. You
need friends to talk to. He will always be the
the night Dreamers Talkshow.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Will fix your despad?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Because Gary's tucking to you? And night.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
From the Great Northwest d been the forest Shadows? This
is night Dreams Forbidden Realms? And now here's Gary?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Where is my golf club? JC? I thought you were
gonna send it to me.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's in the mail. You should know that already by now.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, then we got a problem because I ain't been
telling you for the last eight years. Your checked there
in the mail. Where you think I got her from?
I don't know. Tonight we got a great show, don't we.
We're going to be talking about comets, asteroids, the Three
Eye at List and you know, I'm telling you, I
am so fed up with so much people on TikTok

(01:18):
and podcasts out there that are really pushing that the
Three Eye at Lias is the alien craft coming to
attack the Earth.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, yeah, there's a boy. It's everywhere especially on YouTube
and all over different platforms. But here's the thing. The
people were thinking that aliens think like humans do. I
don't think they would come in that form, and I
don't think they would attack us. Listen, Why would they
get their hands during when they flip a swish?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I know that, but it's ridiculous. But people, if you
go on X and all the blue and all these platforms,
people are really believing that the three I Atlas is
the alien craft.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Oh, I know, it's it's all over and there's other well,
very well known people out there, not to say who,
but they're kind of promoting it and saying they predicted
it and all this and that, and that adds more
fuel to the fire.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, how about the Buddhist spear?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
What I didn't hear?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Buds? Oh yeah, I have in trouble with my false teeth.
They're not insolid No, my I.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Think it was my headset on that one. But anyway, yeah, listen,
I still can't find it, but I seen it was
a they had a side by side comparison, and that
spear is almost identical to I forget what it comes from,
some kind of a craft or something that man made.
You know that looked just like it.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it looks like some art pieces. You know, it
almost looks like it's made out of a lunamin or something.
This is the thing. But you know bobbles are now
is claiming it is real.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, yeah, I yes, that's what you get people that
are very well known and are backing that it's this
or that and it's real on all this. And then
you know that these well know people got a lot
of followers over the year, so they're going to jump
right on. They believe everything they say without doing their
own little research.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And that's the scary part too, you know. And again
you know how credible is some of these people, you
know making all these weird claims.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I always say, no matter what it is or what
who says, what, do your own research, you know, find
out for yourself. Just don't take everything for what people say,
because that could lead you down the wrong road. Believe me.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well, you know, I at one point I believe the
three eye at Lis was the alien crap for about
maybe twenty minutes. And that twenty minutes time I went
on Amazon and bought extension legs for my bed. And
the reason why I bought the extension because you know,
I don't have a bunker, but I can go underneath
the bed if anything happens.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah. Plus you got that long blanket you like, can
duck under or that just for shadow people.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't know, but I dropped my phone again the
other night. My wife got mad because I had to
wake her up about two o'clock in the morning. Will
you get my phone? She gets, get your own phone.
I said, I'm not going to put my hand under
the bed.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
No, because that's the first time something will grab you
and you don't want to you know that.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, you know I was worried about Aunt Bertha, you know,
coming back and being under my bed and grabbing my
hand and pulling me underneath the bed. And you remember
aunt Bertha, don't you. She used to play the saxophone
at the Nudest Call Me.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Everybody liked how well she blew the saxophone or blue Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
And what was her favorite flower?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I have no. I think it's tulips.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, that's what I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, God, Well, we're gonna have a great show, and
we'll take a couple of call instant later part of
the show, so you can ask Mark a question about
the comet or asteroids or you know, I don't know.
We all could be wrong. It could be an alien craft.
Let's mind ask some information about it.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I guess yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Mark D'Antonio is a notable astronomer. He's the director of
Skytour live Stream Observatories, CEO of FX Models, a model
making and special effects company specializing in digital, physical models
and organic special effects in the film industry. He's also
the mouf on that's the mutual ufone network Chief photo

(05:33):
video Analyst. Mark D'Antonio will be doing a never before
seen presentation at this year's Contact in the Desert event,
live streaming from a remote observatory in the Arizona Desert,
where he'll be showcasing amazing objects in the sky.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, Mark, welcome back to this show. It's been a while,
and have you been staying out of trouble?

Speaker 6 (05:56):
Oh, of course, n you know three aaalys has been
making us all crazy, right, I mean, this object, this
object is special for a very important reason. It's truly interstellar.
It came from somewhere beyond beyond our solar system. That's
really important. We haven't ever really seen anything before this

(06:17):
except the second object that came through called Borisov, which
was a comet, interstellar comet, and which was the first one.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So mum was one I.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
With the eye meaning interstellar, the one meeting first right,
Two I was Borisov, and three I is Atlas, and
Atlas is the name of the telescope systems that found
this particular comet. And yes, I'm calling it a comet
because on the scale from zero to ten, where ten

(06:50):
is alien guaranteed and zero was definitely non alien or natural.
When it first was seen, I gave it a four.
And as I studied it and looked at it more
and I looked at what it was giving off, I realized, Okay,
this this is the composition that we would expect from

(07:12):
a comet, albeit a strange one because we've never had
a comic come through like this before. But it definitely
seems to be for all these structure, for all the
hype out there, it seems to be just a comet.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
You mean, we're not going to be visited by aliens
from who knows where?

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Well, you know, And that's a good point, Gary, if
you think about it. If we were to be visited
by aliens from other worlds. Do you think they would
take a slow motion trip through our solar system? They
would probably need to go a little bit faster. And
one of the lectures that I do around the country
that is one of the more popular ones, is on

(07:57):
interdimensional travel. Now, no, this does not stray outside the
realm of physics to the point of science fiction. It
takes you down a road which says, hey, there's more
than we understand out there, and this is just a
little bit of a peak into what we may not understand,
and we can see how we can go not in

(08:18):
just our four dimensions, X, y, and z moving through time,
but into a fifth dimension as well. Now that's a possibility.
And I'm not the only astronomer in the world that
talks about this. There's other people. There's other physicists out
there talking about it, there's other astrophysicists talking about it,
and so I think it's important to understand that there's

(08:39):
other ways they can get here. Imagine this, It would
take us ten thousand years to get to Alpha Centauri
at the fastest possible speed. We can currently go okay,
ten thousand years. However, using this technology that's interdimensional there
is a chance that we could get there in as
little as twenty minutes. Sounds odd, but everybody out there,

(09:03):
their warning bells are going off single But that means
we'd have to violate the speed of light, and that's correct,
that's what it would mean. But only if we stayed
in our four dimensions and did that travel within those
four dimensions X, y, and z moving through time. If
we go into a fifth dimension, there's no rules. In
the fifth dimension, we get a compressed universe. The farther

(09:24):
in we go, So twelve inches when you're like far
into that that compressed universe, twelve inches of travel in
there could correspond to ten million miles when you come out,
because you're going through a compressed universe inside, and when
it expands to the full size on the way out,
you could have just traveled ten million miles in a

(09:45):
few minutes or a minute or two. So that's the
kind of thing that we're aiming for. And what's interesting
is it's not just confined to people talking about it Gary.
It's get sexually certain overseas. The large hat run collider.
They're doing an experiment with a large head run collider
where they're using a detector to detect The very particles

(10:08):
I'm telling you are the ones they were looking looking for,
and they're called colusive line gravitons or colusive line particles.
You can look those up online, look up on the
certain website, and you can even read the white paper
about them and what the Atlas detector is trying to do.
So that's that's It's in the mainstream. It's not fringe science.

(10:31):
It's actually in the mainstream. That's what makes it so exciting,
doesn't it It does.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know when I had mitya Cocoon about two years ago,
he said, we are so close to cracking the next dimension. Yeah,
and all these things will be possible.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
That's right, Yeah, that's right, you're right. And the thing
that makes it interesting is that we don't need ten
or twelve dimensions. We just need that one additional one,
that fifth dimension, that fifth highly warped dimension, where the
farther in you go, the smaller the universe becomes around you.
So if you go into the middle of that dimension

(11:10):
and you travel a small distance, that translates to a
massive distance when you come out. And what would someone
see if they saw you doing that? They would see
you doing things that look like magic to us. Now,
they would literally see you vanish right before their eyes,
and you would literally be gone. You could reach out
and touch it. No, you're not there, and you'd be

(11:31):
in that fifth dimension, and then you could pop back
into another location. So you go from one X, Y
and Z coordinate at one point in time to a
whole nother X, Y and Z coordinate much further away
a moment later, and you would not travel the distance
from that first point to the second point. It would
just pop out and pop in. Because this is how

(11:56):
that travel methodology would work. You can pop out and
pop in. They don't even need engines on their craft. No,
they just need to yeat that they shut to pop
in and pop out.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
You know, you would have a body double multiple times
because if the if I gathered what he was saying,
if we cracked the fifth dimension, we would have parallel universes,
so they could be multiple me, multiple youth.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
Oh, I know, I don't want to meet myself though
one of me is enough. I can barely tolerate myself,
you know. But you're right, there's there's a lot of
a lot of a lot of ramifications to this that
the whole parallel universe thing. That's something that people claim
is real. People talk about ghosts and things like that.

(12:46):
How do we know that those aren't parallel universe incursions
into our universe and we're seeing these creatures, people, other
things that are a parallel universe visual manifestation of an
incursion into our universe, because some of the topologies of
how parallel universes are laid out are that they're like

(13:08):
onion skins, where they're all together in one thing, and
they kind of bump up against each other, and as
they bump into each other, maybe some of those bumps
penetrate into our universe, and if you happen to be
at that spot, you can see what's going on for
a brief moment and oh no, look a ghost. You know,
I'm not saying that two things can't be true at once.

(13:29):
They could be you know, Gertrude, you know, who had
long since passed, But it could also be a different
person from a parallel dimension.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
You know.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
So the universe is a big, vast place that we
literally only know four percent about. Literally everything we've done
is by understanding only four percent of the universe.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's not very much. That's not I mean we don't know.
I mean, we know more about I mean really, we
don't really know anything about it four percent just nothing.
And the scary.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Part too, it is it's kind of scary because for all,
we've done, all the landings on Mars and went out
a hitch, all the specific trajectories that brought us to
Pluto and to that Kuiper Belt icy object called ultimately
far past Pluto that we also visited. For all those
all that was done with just a rudimentary understanding of

(14:30):
the physics of the universe and with just a rudimentary
understanding of the nature of the universe. That's pretty cool,
so you are.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, but you know this here recently NASA is almost
omitted now that they found biological matter that existed on Mars.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Well, yeah, that's correct.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
There was.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
And I actually saw something because I was following the
Curiosity rover really extensively. Every day I'd be in the
raw feeds, and on one of the raw feeds, I
saw something that looked for all the world, all the
world like a crinoid, which is an ancient stalked plant, right,
and the stalk is segmented, and it's very very specific

(15:16):
and when the rat, the rock abrasion tool on Curiosity,
was digging and scouring a particular rock that I thought
was pretty interesting. It looked like sedimentary rock. All of
a sudden, this chrynoid stalk showed up. I immediately called
friends at JPL and said, are you guys looking at

(15:39):
this crinoid? I mean, it looks like a crinoid. Yeah,
it does. It looks so it looks like very much
like a crnoid. Too bad, We're going to destroy it.
What they said, yeah, you see. It takes about whatever
they said, I think at the time six minutes for
signals to get to Mars, and they had already given
the Curiosity rover the signal to start spinning the rat

(16:01):
again and start drilling deeper into the rock. So it
was that thing was available for a few frames taken
by Curiosity, and after that it was passed through and
they dug through it, so it was lost. But it
looked for all the world like a chrynoid, like a
segmented plant, you know, and it was just beautiful. It
was like, wow, that's a crinoid. I've got one here,

(16:23):
I've got one in my fossil collection.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, it just tells you that there was life on Mars,
and we're not. We're not the only ones that planet
that that had life on it.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
That's correct, and there may still be life on Mars,
it just might be underground. Look at how tenacious life
is on our planet, right, The tenacity of life is
legend and they can live in the hottest environments, the
highest pressure environments, the coldest environments. You go into Lake Vostok,
you know, a mile or two beneath the ice in Antarctica,

(16:56):
over thirty six hundred species of life are in that
completely isolated world in the dark, and they have all
the cycles of life, the carbon cycle and so forth.
There's all in place there just within the lake. So
that's come to some level of stability inside that very

(17:16):
deep Antarctic lake, and that's as cold as you can
get on Earth. So now you know, Europa is starting
to look good to us because we found life at
the deep hydrothermal vents on our planet and we figured, hey,
if there's life there by the way of bacteria and
these large tube worms and clams and crustaceans, well then

(17:38):
maybe there could be life underneath the ice of Europa.
Because Europa has geysers thought they come from hydrothermal vents
under its icy crust. So you know what, you're right, Gary,
It's possible that there's deep microscopic organisms under Mars, the
South Pole, perhaps where there's an actual as a war

(18:00):
of water that's been discovered. Okay, under the strata. It
can't exist in the surface because of the low pressure,
but it can't exist under pressure from the rocks. And
maybe under Europa, and on top of that, maybe under
Saturn's moon, Enceladus, and maybe under Ganymede, maybe under Callisto

(18:21):
and Jupiter. So there might be life all throughout our
solar system, but we just haven't found it yet.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
We will if we exist long enough to become a
civilization one and that's what I don't know, if we
will make it there.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
We're we're not. We're three hundred We're about three hundred
years from Kardaship level one, which is what you're talking about,
level one society. And that has to do with the
energy usage, right, and we got to be good. We
have to be smart.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
We have to be renewable, no doubt, and get rid
of nuclear weapons.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Yeah, they don't help us, do they.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
No going back to the atlas. Yeah, So how long
do you think it's gonna take before it actually this
past the Earth and is gone.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Well, I mean it's gonna it's gonna pass a few
million miles from Jupiter at the end of December, I think.
But it'll be visible.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
We took a photograph of it with our remote telescopes
as sky through livestream and uh, we'll be taking more
of them in the next couple of days, maybe to
a week, because it's out from behind the sun now
and it's visible. But it's in the early morning sky now.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, but do you see any portals on it with
aliens looking out?

Speaker 7 (19:40):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (19:40):
You took away the my thunder. I was going to
tell you about the aliens waiting at us day Yeah. No, no, no,
that's that's interesting. Now it's gonna it's gonna pass. When
it passes by Earth, it's going to be seven hundred
and twenty times the distance to the Moon, Okay, one
hundred and seventy million miles, So it's not coming close.

(20:01):
Nothing to worry about. Our planet is totally safe. However,
I will say this, there is an asteroid network out there,
an asteroid observation network. Okay, and this asteroid network, because
this is the third interstellar object that's moving at high
speed through our Solar system, they decided that they're going
to use the three I Atlas event as what they're

(20:24):
calling a live fire exercise, set up a communications network,
set up protocols for figuring out ways to deal with
any potential threats down the line. This one is not
a threat, all right, and there are no known threats
to our planet right now actually so from asteroids all
the way to commets.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
So we're good, okay, But a question, I have you
just said that, But isn't it possible that an asteroid
could still slam an Earth because we still don't have
enough you know, capable need to monitor everywhere.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Oh, I agree, and right now that's possible. However, the
other thing that's happening is there's three four Atlas installations
four Atlas telescopes setups that are in place, and they're
going to add a fifth one I think in Spain,
and they're going to be adding these these these near

(21:23):
Earth object surveillance stations all over the planet soon and
so it's going to take maybe twenty five thirty years.
But nothing that we see out there now is going
to have any danger to us for at least the
next one hundred years. So we're right now, we're in
good shape to actually set something like this in place.

(21:46):
So but if one were to just magically appear out
of nowhere, and you know, they could do some serious damages.
But there is nothing out there that's going to appear
out of nowhere. We would have seen it because of
its size. And right now we were looking at little
ones that might be a few meters across or under

(22:08):
a meter across. We were looking at one with our
sky tour telescopes that was literally you could watch it
moving across the screen because it was moving so fast
through our field. And that was between Earth and the Moon.
That was a long time ago, actually, but it was small.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well how about the lemon, They a six lemon?

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Well, yeah, comet lemon. Yeah, we we imaged that one.
We've been imaging that one. Comet lemons, a beautiful comet,
not coming anywhere near us. Usually comets don't. And this
comet has a kind of a bluish green coma, you know,
the head, the nucleus, and that's because the bluish green

(22:52):
color is indicative of carbon atoms and these these carbon
compounds around the and the comet. And similarly to Comet lemon,
we have common swan. Commet Lemon is this big tail.
Comet Swan has a very slight tale, doesn't have very
much of a tail. And Commet Swan was actually quite

(23:14):
a bit closer to us than Lemon was, but nowhere
near dangerous closeness. Right, very kind, But Swan is beautiful.
We image a lot of that. We actually caught it
just as it was passing. Yeah. I don't know if
you remember the Hubble photo called the Pillars of Creation. Okay,
well it was passing right past the Pillars of Creation

(23:37):
and we took a photograph of it right there. So
we have the whole Nebula with the Pillars of Creation
and Comet Swan right there passing in front of it.
And what's interesting is the nebula is thousands of light
years behind it and the comet is several million miles away.
So I thought that was pretty cool. It really points
out to scale the universe.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Now on the swan off people that come back says
my note says seven hundred and fifty two years. That
could be totally wrong.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Yeah, I know, I don't like, I don't remember the
period of Comet Swan, but I do think it as
a period of comment. As you point out, and I'll
be able to figure that. I have these facts going
through my head, and every now and then one will
pop back out, all right, and I think that it's okay, Okay,

(24:33):
seven hundred and fifty years, I believe is the period.
Maybe seven ninety five, but it's it's one of those
two values. So that's the period of Comet Swan. Now,
when we say period, we mean this is a recurring comment.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
What does that mean.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
It means it's in an orbit, unlike three Iatlis, Unlike
Comet Borisov. Unlike they weren't in an orbit. They're moving
so fast through our solar system them. Okay, three i
Alis is on a path called a hyperbola, which is
a hyperbolic orbit, meaning it's going to curve slightly as

(25:09):
it goes by the Sun. I mean it did already,
and then it's going to continue on out. It's moving
so fast that the Sun's gravity will only bend its
path slightly as it goes past it. And that's the Sun,
the strongest gravitational force in our solar system. You know,
so Swan is beautiful and it'll be like you said,

(25:31):
you I think you're right seven hundred and you know,
fifty seven hundred and eighty, seven hundred and ninety five,
you know, less than eight hundred. But that's the years.
That's how that's what the commet Swans period is around there.
Uh so, but it'll be back. And the thing is,
once they pass the Sun, there will be significant changes

(25:53):
in almost every comet because the Sun's hot and they're
made of ices, okay, and you know, and mix with
rock and so forth. But comets are rich in the
same compounds that our planet needed to start life. So
our planet has actually had lots of cometary debris that

(26:14):
brought the the building blocks of life to it, and
now the Earth makes those building blocks as well.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
There was a famous experiment called the Millary array experiment
which they showed that lightning in the primordial atmosphere, striking
that atmosphere could make amino acids, which are building blocks
of life. And you know, comets bring them, asteroids bring them,
meteorites bring them. The Murchison media riite is a famous
media rite and that one actually had a bunch of

(26:43):
amino acids in it, you'll go figure. So the building
blocks of life are out there in the universe, and
that's that's you know, Carrie. That's why the subtext of
my book called The Populated Universe is that life in
the universe may very well be the rule and not
the exception. It's because it seems like the universe is
set up to make life happen and not extinguish it. Yes,

(27:06):
it's very capable of doing that too. Okay, if you're
on a star that goes supernova, you know, well, guess
what your planet is gonna go and so are you.
Our son will never do that, you know. So there's
a lot going on out there that's really interesting. And oh,
besides being fodder for science fiction, the facts are still

(27:28):
just as interesting. And if you look at any of
the social media, and that probably be why you're laughing,
you know, all about the science fiction we're seeing about
this three I at list problem.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, it's crazy. Like I said at the beginning of
the show, it's it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever
witnessed and broadcasting in my life. I mean, I got
a lot of podcasters are really mad at me because
I called them out. It's I call it clickbait, and
they're spreading disinformation. And there's the problem. There's there's always

(28:00):
a certain amount of population that believe this stuff. Yeah,
that is what's scary.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Yeah, you're right. But I'll say this though about that.
I think it's good for us to flex our mental
muscles to try and work out how we'll actually react
to the eventuality, not now, but the eventuality that we
will end up having an alien life form present itself

(28:28):
to us on this planet. I think I have a
feeling they may actually be here, and that's because our
history is replete with stories about it, from all the
way back to when we were pecking into rocks. Okay,
so I don't have a doubt that they're here. I
just have a doubt that we're capable of seeing them.

(28:50):
And there's a lot of reasons for that, mostly technical.
The only thing that stands between us and them is
their technology, and for them to travel here from a
far distance, they have to get here quick. They can't.
They can't take this be here like the speed of
you know this this three ialyst that's slow.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah a billion years?

Speaker 6 (29:14):
Yeah, months. Yeah, I guess what the age of this
object is estimated based on where it came from and
based on how far we seem to think it's been traveling.
We seem to say that this thing is like seven
billion years old our universe. Our universe is thirteen point
eight billion years old, So this thing has been traveling
for just over half the age of the universe. Right,

(29:37):
that's crazy. Now, it also means that our solar system
is only four point six billion years old, So when
it left its originally originating place, we weren't even here yet.
The Sun wasn't even formed yet. So if that's the case,
those aliens must be clairvoyant to be able to send
a probe here. Yeah, and now we were going to

(29:57):
be here just at that time.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Mark, we need to take a break. It's about four
minutes long, and then we come back. I'm going to
ask you a lot of stupid questions and we can
have fun with it. Then we'll talk more about the
universe and what is going on. So we'll be back
with Mark this after this. So stay June, we'll be
right back.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
Walk in back to Georgia, and I hope she will
take me back. Nothing in my pocket and all.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
My own is up on my bike.

Speaker 8 (30:53):
But she's a girl who said she loved me on
that hot dust team making road. And if she's still around,
I'm gonna settle down without a hard loving Georgia girl.
M I'm walking back to Georgia. She's the only one

(31:20):
who knows I would feels when you lose a dream,
how it feels when you dream alone.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
She's the girl.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
Who said she loved me on that hot dust in
making road. And if she's still around, I'm gonna settle
down without a hard loving Georgia girl.

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Speaker 2 (33:47):
It off, except if you're my wife. She says, why
are you listening to yourself? I don't know why I
listened to myself. We're back with Mark and here's one
of the questions I have for you. Sure, okay, all
these people who claim that we have moon bases on
the moon and ets have bases on the Moon, you know,

(34:11):
on this side of the moon and the dark side
of the moon. Now with all the stargazers like you
looking at the moon, and let's face it, you can
get into graters. Have you seen an alien walking on
the Moon? You know?

Speaker 5 (34:26):
No.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
In fact, I did a Netflix show some years ago
and it was purporting to be about aliens that were
on the Moon. And my job on that show was
to actually analyze a bunch of lunar images, and all
the lunar images they gave me intriguing, yes, but not

(34:52):
at all convincing. And as a matter of fact, I
could tell what they were looking at and was able
to explain what they were seeing. And I was disappointed too.
I was hoping that, hey, there might be something on
there the Moon that we don't know about. However, you
got to understand every square into that Moon has been
covered by the Lunar Reconnaissance orbiter that is a little

(35:16):
tiny package, the satellite that's orbiting the Moon, taking swath
after swath for years and years of the Moon and
sending back such detailed images that you can actually see
the tracks left by the astronauts and the rovers on
the Moon. At all the Apollo landing sites. And this
may be disappointing to some folks, but yes, we went

(35:37):
to the Moon, and there's no equivocation, and it's easy
to prove. I lived through it. I remember it very distinctly,
and I can find, literally, I can also find on
the Moon the places where the lunar module after it
brought the astronauts back from the Moon, was discarded. I

(35:58):
found the places on the Moon where that crashed and
left the scar and the lunar landscape with debris. Okay,
So yeah, we went to the Moon. And just because
we don't have the technology to do that now doesn't
mean we never did. It just means that that space
race with Russia, which is what it was, okay, is done.

(36:19):
It was done. So we started going to orbital technology,
space shuttle technology, telescopes in orbit, and space station in orbit.
That's the thing that we went to. We're getting back
to the Moon, though, and we're using new technology, technology
that won't actually kill us or potentially kill us. Right,

(36:41):
So it's never it's the most dangerous job on the planet.
Of course, it's the working out of space. All's that, right.
But I've never seen any evidence in all the lunar
constant orbital imagery or anything. The Moon is a stark landscape.
There's interesting features that are traced geology and so forth,

(37:02):
but there's no evidence of any other worldly creatures there.
And I know that's hard for a lot of people
to hear, because they'd like to believe there is, you know,
but you know, the moon's a ball, and it's lit up.
Half of it's lit up at any one time. It's
just we can't see the lit up side sometimes, like
when it's a crescent and just coming up. Well, the

(37:24):
other side of it's lit up full, you know, from
some vantage point, it's a full moon. So there's always
light on the Moon in some cases, except in the
extreme south pole regions where light doesn't get to the
bottom of the craters. So no, I haven't seen anything
interesting that would indicate life on the Moon or whatever.

(37:47):
I do admit that it's kind of interesting that our
planet and its particular size, is the only one that
has a moon of that particular proportional size to our planet.
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well, some people coin that the moon was brought here, Yeah,
but then if you read some of it, then it says,
actually the moon could have broke off from Earth when
the Earth was being formed. What's your gut take on it?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (38:12):
See, Okay, As an astronomer, here's how we handle that.
We look at the composition what's the Moon made of?
And we say, it's the same green cheese as here. Okay,
the Earth's green cheese and the Moon's green cheese composition
are pretty much the same. Now, that's pretty interesting. It

(38:34):
means that there's a reason why the Moon and the
Earth are so similar in that regard, and that reason
is because maybe, and again we weren't there to see it.
It's a theory. Maybe a Mars sized planetoid struck the
early Earth while it was a molten ball and blew
off a giant chunk, and for a while we had
a ring of material around our planet, and that ring

(38:57):
coalesce than the blobs. Those blobs cold less into bigger blobs,
and over time those blobs crashed into the biggest blob
because it had the most gravity, and then formed the
Moon that we see. And as time went on, that
object was actually much closer to the Earth. Our day
was four hours long once. Can you believe that?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (39:21):
Four hours? Yeah? And then as the moon spiraled away slowly,
which it's still doing to this day, by about three
centimeters a year. I know that little amount. As the
Moon spiraled away, it was robbing just a little bit
of our rotational speed as it did so, and that
robbing led to a longer day. So our rotations started

(39:45):
to slow down. So we went from four hours to
now where we are now at roughly twenty four hours now. Eventually,
in the distant distant future, far beyond the life of
the Sun, Okay, the Earth the Moon will be locked together,
not physically, but the same face of the Moon will

(40:07):
face the Earth like it does now, but the same
face of the Earth will rotate with it, and they'll
rotate together, so certain unlucky people on one side of
the Earth will always have a full moon.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Okay, asks you a question. You remember the TV show
was Out of the UK Space nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Yes, Martin Landaull and Barbara Bain.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, what's a huge asteroid hit the Moon? Could it?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
No?

Speaker 6 (40:31):
That was okay, I Could it knock it? Is the
question you're.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Asking, Well, if if we got if it got hit
by a big enough asteroid, could it knock it out
of its orbit? And it could start drifting off.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
I don't think it would make it drift off. I
think you could change it from the roughly circular orbit
has it's I'm not quite circular. I think if it
was big enough, if it got hit by something the
size of say Series, the dwarf planet in the asteroid belt,
if that the largest asteroid hit us, the largest dwarf

(41:09):
planet hit us, hit the Moon, It's possible that that
could change the orbit of the Moon. But it depends
on the impact speed, and it depends on the direction
that's coming from. If it hits it along its orbit,
it'll make it go faster, and that would mean that
it would make it into a very elliptical orbit around
the Earth. So the Moon would get gigantic and then

(41:30):
small gigantic, and the small as it orbits the Earth
are sometimes closed sometimes far other way. That would change
the tides. That would change a lot of things. But
right now I guess the only way for that to
happen is to go into a simulation program, which I
have a few, and I can actually create that very

(41:51):
thing and have the Solar System and hit the Moon
with something the size of Series and watch the ensuing
millions of years what happens after, and that kind of
thing is actually very very enlightening to see how not
just the Earth and Moon change, but how that affects
the orbits of other planets too. The stability in the

(42:14):
inner Solar system would change dramatically from such an impact,
because that will change the way the Earth's moving. That
Earth's moving moving slightly differently, will change how Venus reacts.
It will change how Mercury reacts the Venus. And next thing,
you know, we've got a mess in the inner Solar system.
So we've had billions of years to stabilize in our

(42:35):
solar system. So a big asteroid impact on the Moon
I could spell quite a bit of change in our
solar system.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Now, let's pretend. Let's pretend that for some reason the
Moon drifted off. Okay, what would happen to Earth?

Speaker 6 (42:54):
All right, Let's suppose that the moon goes away. We
wake up tomorrow and the moon's gone.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Right Friday and Saturday, late nights up on the mountain,
staring at.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
The exactly exactly the people up there in the mountain
are seeing nothing but stars. Okay, Well, the first thing
you'll notice is that the sky is a lot more
beautiful because the Moon is no longer lighting it up
when it's there, if it's not there anymore. The second
thing we'll notice right away is that there'll be a

(43:24):
lot of changes with our weather, and it'll be slow.
It's not gonna be immediate. The most the immediate thing
that will happen is the tides will change. We'll see
the tides suddenly dropped to basically half of their previous strength.
All right, So the Bay of Fundy, where the tides
could be thirty feet deep, may drop now only about

(43:49):
you know, fifteen feet, because we lost the Moon, which
was influencing the tides there. And that's just a little,
you know, a little effect. You're going to have all
these long term effects with the fact that the Earth's
rotation rate is going to change. You're not going to

(44:09):
have the Moon slowing it down anymore. So that's going
to change how things happen on Earth. It's going to
change the evolution of the atmosphere, how the atmosphere changes,
how the currents change. The Moon influences a lot of
a great many things on our planet, even though it's
two hundred and forty thousand miles away, you know, and

(44:31):
people think it's a lot closer than it really is.
You know, if you did a scale model, I did this.
They should do scale models to show people if the moon,
if the Earth the size of a softball. Okay, the
moon is going to be, you know, twenty feet away,
and it's going to be only about the size of
a jawbreaker, a little bit smaller, a little bit smaller

(44:52):
than about an inch in size, you know, a little
inch and a half. So we're talking a great distance relatively,
But the gravity is enough to cause these tides. And
we got to remember, why would the tides be cut
in half? Well, because the Moon is only responsible for
about half of the strength of the tides. The other

(45:15):
half is due to the Sun. The Sun causes tides too,
So even if the moon vanished, we still have tides.
You know, we still have the tides. It would be
the Sun causing it, though it'll be about half the strength.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Now you mentioned the sun. Here's another thing. People are
worried about, guilt shots from the sun, you know, getting
hit by a solar storm or whatever. You know, again,
what could happen to Earth if we got really hit
with something major?

Speaker 6 (45:48):
Well, let's think about that, Okay, First of all, what
would hit us, okay, What would hit us is plasma
that has been ejected from the Sun. That's called a
coronal mass ejection SeeMe. Okay, And those injections occur fairly
commonly when the Sun is at high activity, and we're

(46:08):
just coming out of the peak of activity. But still
CMEs are occurring as we speak. You know, there's there's
one that just was captured as the comet passed behind
the Sun. So what happens now when that stuff streams
to the Earth is if it's as long as that
stuff is facing the Earth, we'll get struck.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Now.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
What is that stuff? It's protons and electrons in the
auto atmosphere of the Sun that are very very fast moving.
They're not moving at the speed of light. They're actual
physical material moving. It'll take it a few days to
get here. And when it gets here, it's highly charged
material and we have a Earth that is full of

(46:52):
electric currents. So what happens is as it comes to
the Earth, it goes into the magnetic field, and it
intercly the magnetic field and starts spiraling around the poles
as it goes down toward the Earth, and as it
spirals down toward the Earth. That's when we see these
beautiful lights called the Northern lights and the North Pole

(47:13):
and the South Pole. We see the southern lights, Aurora
Borealis up north, Aurora Australis down south, and those colors
are just beautiful, but they signal a massive clump of
charged particles from the Sun striking our planet. So at

(47:33):
the very least we get pretty pictures. But how could
it hurt us? And that's what's important to talk about.
First of all, we have over six thousand satellites in
orbit that are active and there's nothing to protect them,
and so they call the space environment. The space environment

(47:54):
is subject to these coronal mass ejections and the CMEs
can blow out satellites and destroy satellites, so we have
to be very careful. You also know that we have
Starlink satellites up there and they give Internet to people
all over the place.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Taken out here recently.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
It's correct. I was going to say that you're exactly right.
So you're right. That's what I love about you get
there's nothing gets past you. I love that. That's really cool.
So yeah, but you're right, and so the satellite environment
was affected negatively by these coronal mass ejections. And what
happens when those things strike the Earth. The Earth's atmosphere

(48:33):
puffs up a little bit. And when it puffs up,
those extra molecules are hitting the low orbiting objects like
the International Space Station. Oh so, now that means that
the International Space Station is subjected to some drag when
it hits it and starts to slow it down, and
it starts to drop in its orbit a little bit,

(48:55):
and they have to boost it back up, and if
they don't, it'll re enter the Earth habminsie at some point,
not right away, but over a period of a couple
of years, it'll end up decaying in its orbit and
finally crash to Earth. You know, so we have to
be careful. So it affects everything in orbit, affects our satellites,

(49:15):
it affects our space stations. It affects our power grid
most of the most specifically because in all of our
infinite wisdom as humans, we made our power grid, these
these wires up on top of poles that are totally
out in the air, out in the open, subject to
anything any you know, electrical interference, it comes along.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, but you know, we could fix that for six
million dollars. Yeah, we could, yeah, but.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
We don't go on the ground.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
We don't do that.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
We we could go on the ground with all these wires,
but have you seen some of the places in the
world where if you look in some places in India,
it is literally a rats nest on every single street
corner of wires, wires, wires and more wires. You know,
they have, you know, they have all kinds of problems

(50:03):
with that electrical grid. It's a surface grid. It needs
to be on the ground and shielded.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Just think of a major hit on those wires. Yes, okay,
And what I read in research that it could actually
causes cause houses to catch fire.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
And the reason for that, as you already know, is
that when you have a surge of current going through
the existing power grid, well, what's the stop it from
going down into your fuse box in your house, and
what's the stop it if it overwhelms your your breaker
box in your house. I mean, it could start fires,

(50:43):
That's exactly right. And it has to be pretty strong.
It has to be on the order of something probably
stronger than a Carrington event, which was you know, that
event that that had a surge of chronal mass particles
that hit our planet. A Carrington event would be disastrous

(51:04):
for us, especially because the satellite environment would be hard hit.
We lose our cell phone coverage, the cell phone towers
and go down, no doubt. Uh satellite coverage would be
down for some period of time. Uh Internet would not
be up for quite a while.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
What am I gonna do with no internet?

Speaker 6 (51:23):
You just can't surfing your phone? You know, Mark can't Mark.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
We've got to call caller in. Let's take the call
real quick. Okay, who do we have?

Speaker 7 (51:33):
We got a c here?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Well, ac are you turned up I or low?

Speaker 7 (51:39):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (51:39):
I'm turning up high?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Okay, what's your question?

Speaker 7 (51:44):
Well, you know, it's a very interesting. I don't believe
that there's anything in these things except back periods or
whatever floating through the space. But the the interest for
me is what is what do you think about the
fabric of these UFOs made out of? Are they made
of these materials from that you think they're getting it

(52:04):
from from these kind of rocks or meteors and using
them to make spacecrafts. Some spacecrafts look like a meteor,
and yet they're more definition like a craft looking and
seeing a lot of them here, and you know, so
I see that some can be looked like ours, conventional

(52:26):
and some that look like they come from way back
in the past. So I just my question would be, again,
what do you think about the material that they're using?
That that's my interest to see if they're using raw
materials from these objects. And I'll take it off the air.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
That's actually a really good question. I'll tell you why
it's a good question, because we don't know what the
metallurgy would be of these objects. We do know that
what people reported seeing here is smooth, metallic looking serve
us that acts a little strange, no seams, okay, and

(53:04):
things like that, and that would be an advanced metallurgy.
Now I had the fortunate opportunity to look at and
study some rumored materials from a UFO crash, and it
had just come out of an MIT lab and we

(53:25):
were looking at these materials, and I was looking at
them and thinking, these look like ordinary metals to me,
but that belies what's inside these metals. What was inside
these metals was different isotope structures that could not occur
on Earth and could not be manufactured on Earth. That
made it otherworldly. Yet it was a manufactured piece, but

(53:51):
it couldn't be manufactured on Earth, so there was the dilemma.
So it looked like metal to the caller, and however
it didn't have the structure, the internal atomic structure that
we would expect for those same metals. So these different
isotopes had potentially different properties. And although it might look

(54:14):
like metal, it didn't have the same properties as our
normal metals. Now could they use rocks? There's no specific
reason to have any any particular shape of a craft
in space. I mean, when we saw a star truck
with the board cube that could move it huge amount

(54:34):
of speed. That's that's fine, But don't go into the
atmosphere with it, okay, because the wind resistance would tear
it apart. So in space you don't care about your shape,
you really don't, okay. So could they use rocks? I
guess they could. I mean that this island Earth where
the Aliens were dropping asteroids guided by spacecraft onto a

(55:00):
planet to destroy it. I forget what that. I thought
it was this island Earth. But anyway that said, you know,
I don't know, I mean, is it possible, I guess,
But is it happening with three I atlis probably not.
And the reason I say that is because of its
For all its speed, it's moving quite slow for an
alien craft. Although I will say I really like how

(55:24):
this craft has come in. It passed Mars, went around
the Sun past Venus, and on its way out it's
going to pass by Jupiter. So if you were an
alien race and knew about our solar system, might you
just pass by some of the main planets in our
solar system? And the answer is yes, you would. Now
I still say that the likelihood on zero to ten,

(55:48):
with ten being fully alien, I still say this object
is a two for me. Okay, So I believe it's
a comet. It's giving off all these materials now on
it surfase and showing a mission that is actually right
down the line much of what we see with commets.
There's some differences, but there's still much in the line

(56:11):
with comets.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
So but with the Atlass you know, before you know
you have the tail, which actually was not and behind it.
It was in front of it basically. But now after
it's gone behind the Sun and it's coming out, it
has a tail like a normal tail. Large, but again
like I said at the beginning of the show, the

(56:32):
comment the comet atlass is actually getting smaller, which is
normal for a comet to do because it's gassing off
and now you know it's gassing off liquid, you know,
water sealed to and all that, and it tells tells
you that it can't be an alien craft.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Yeah. Now, as far as the comment having a tail
in front of it, guess what that's common.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I didn't know I.

Speaker 6 (56:59):
Have I have photographed, like like Susan chen Atlas, which
was another comment from a year ago or so, it
had what we call an anti tail. Now, what is
that the anti tail? That comet has a dust tail
that lags behind it millions of miles. It leaves dust
behind in its orbit is it makes its way toward
the Sun, which by the way, is a long curving path.

(57:22):
So you can imagine at some point or another, if
you're looking out into space at that curving path coming
towards you, that the distant tail, where it was millions
of miles ago, might appear to be in front of
the comet from your perspective. And that's what we're looking at.
It's a perspective illusion called the anti tail. And so

(57:46):
when we see the anti tail. We did see an
anti tail on Comet three eye Atlis, and that's another
reason why it actually became more comet than spaceship for me.
The nickel Remember the nickel adams Gary that were shooting kel. Yeah,
well that nickel adams were coming off, and then we

(58:08):
later saw iron, but we didn't see any iron up front,
and that was pretty perplexing. They didn't really understand what
it was.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Well, that's what I think. That's I think Mark, that's
what got a lot of people thinking it was an
alien craft because they saw a nickel. Normally on a
comet you would see iron given off because and and
it was given off nickel. So that's where people started thinking, well,
we make our aircraft with nickel, we used it on

(58:37):
you know, our space craft and all that, so it
had it be an alien craft.

Speaker 7 (58:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
But there's one thing though that people need to understand,
and that is with all comets, we don't see nickel
or iron or just one or the other. We see
a nickel slash iron ratio. And with Atlas, with three
I atlists, we didn't see we saw a lot more

(59:04):
nickel than iron initially, so that's that's like, wow, what's
going on here? Yeah? I get it. But then later
we started to see more iron and that nickel to
iron ratio started to show up a little better looking.
The reason as it looks now the nickel, Well, first
of all, this object has a lot of carbon dioxide
ice on it, and that means a lot of carbon

(59:27):
monoxide ice, a lot of other ice water ice. Okay,
why so much? We don't know. That was a next,
that was an exceptional amount of carbon dioxide ice on
this object that we saw. But from where it came
from the galactic disk, Okay, it's possible that it picked
up a lot of carbon dioxide and its travels. After
all the rumor so far, it looks like it's about

(59:49):
seven billion years old. As I talked about, that's a
long long age. So as this thing came in, it's
possible that the nickel atoms that were bound up in
the surface ices were tied to carbon monoxide groups. Carbon
monoxide is a carbon atom with an oxygen atom co
monooxide carbon carbon monoxide, and there were four of those

(01:00:14):
on a nickel atom, and you had this nickel carbonyl
what it's called, and at one hundred degrees fahrenheit, that
vaporizes and those ices subably and the nickel atoms are released.
Now where's the iron. Well, the iron was also bound
up with these carbon monoxide groups, but it had five
of them, so it was an iron pentacarbonyl penta being five, okay,

(01:00:39):
And so at two hundred degrees fahrenheit, the iron carbonyl
iron pent carbonyl vaporizes, and thus the later appearance of
iron would make sense if there was nickel and iron
carbonyl variations on that comet, And so that is explainable

(01:01:00):
through chemical composition analysis. But you know what, the early
findings of nickel were perplexing. I don't take that away
from it. This is a very strange comment, right, It
is nothing like we've ever seen before. I won't take
that away fmit at all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
You know again, I think about this technology wise. I mean,
like I said this last week on the show, how
long does the cell phone last before it breaks down?
And you buy a TV? How long does it take
to break down? Could you think alien technology is seven
billion years old before we even existed and would be

(01:01:44):
surviving now? I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
I don't either, And in fact, you know I saw
one theory, which you know, we can't say it's not
true that maybe this was an alien spacecraft, maybe the
one at the heart of this comet. But because it's
been drifting for so long out in the galactic disc,
it acquired a bunch of debris over the top of it,

(01:02:09):
and ice and so forth and became a comet. So technically,
the only way we'd ever know that is if we
could see the nucleus. And the only way to see
the nucleus is to do like we did to the
comet cheriumov Grusomenco, which was to land a probe on
it and to send the probe out there. You may

(01:02:30):
remember the Rosetta mission. Rosetta showed us beautiful images for
the first time in the high definition of a surface
of a comet. It looked like a warped kidney, okay,
and it had unbelievable structure on it. It was gorgeous.
And that was the first time we actually saw a

(01:02:52):
comet up close. And we tried to land the probe
on it, and that kind of failed, but it gave
a couple of shots that were worth something. But that's
what we'd have to do. We'd have to get out
to this thing and land something on it. Unfortunately, Uh,
in the time since we first discovered it, there was
literally no time for us to turn around the mission

(01:03:13):
and get it out to this comment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
You're right now, we got another color. Who do we
have out there?

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
We had? Jody?

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Hi, Jody, how are you doing it? And where are
you calling from?

Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Gary, I'm calling from Hocking Hills, Ohio. My new adjustment
of status in America.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Oh well, yeah, well, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
I'm watching disguis here from America instead of Saskatchewan them.
I don't know. There's a whole lot of weird stuff
going on in this area. So there's not a lot
of talk and American news about the Three AI Atlas
or anywhere. It's kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Well, you don't go on to TikTok, Jody, you have
to do.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
It is not a mainstream news like there's no science
going on, and you know, anywhere, nobody knows what's going
on outside in the universe.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Mark where I can help you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
I can help you with that, Jody. I I kind
of Unfortunately, unfortunately, Jody, and this is the truth of
the matter. We're in the government shutdown and NASA is
shut down right now, and you have no idea how
angry I am, okay, because we're missing science opportunities.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
Yeah, but you can see other stuff like the solar.
There's other countries that have stuff going on and they
can see things, but they're not reporting it. That's I'm like,
I'm like a little person sitting on a deck in Ohio,
and I know more than the most Americans. It's really strange.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
Yea, you know they are, they are reporting it, and it's
just that the other problem we had was that for
the last several weeks, uh, the you know, the object
was behind the sun from our point of view, and
the only telescopes I could see it were spaceborne scopes
like the sohotelescope and so forth, and so they did

(01:05:09):
image it and all they saw was fuzzy blob, I mean,
and that's kind of what we expected to see. And
right now it's still just a fuzzy blob. It hasn't
it hasn't broken apart such that we can actually see
separate components or anything like that. Like Shoemaker Levy which
hit Jupiter, I mean, when it hit Jupiter, it made

(01:05:32):
these massive explosion scars on Jupiter that lasted for a
week or so. It was just beautiful. I watched it
live with my with my telescopes. I literally watched it happen,
like wow, look at that. It was incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
The tail sort of interrupt you. But I heard sayings
and TikTok and all the AI shit news coming out,
and nobody really knows what's going on round. There's so
much cong inTransition it's going on right now. It's really
hard to wean through shit. So I'm sitting here wondering, like,
you know, they said the tale was going one way,

(01:06:07):
you know, goes away from the sun, and then it
like did a little U turn and now was going
a different way. Is this stuff real or are they
you know, they trying to set us up into like
all this news to just keep us That's what I
really want, That's what I really wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Okay, Well, I'm going to give you my answer, and
Mark can give you his answer. Here's my answer.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
I know, sit out of all of our asses, I
have a.

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
Little different answer. I have a little different answer than
that Jody. And the answer is that the tale being
in these different positions was real. Uh, but it was
a prospective illusion based on where the comet was in
the sky. It has a curving path, and we started
to see its tail apparently in front of it at

(01:06:58):
one point and that's not you're looking.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
At it away behind it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
All right, sorry, well then no, that's right. So it
was called the anti tail, and that's something that most comments,
uh some comments will show. Last year we photographed Susan
chenn Atlas with our remote telescopes that skye through livestream
and we caught the anti tail very prominently, and that

(01:07:24):
was the distant dust tail that was, you know, way
out in space and we're looking at the curved path
of the comet and it leaves the dust tail behind
and we could actually see it apparently being in front
of the comment it wasn't. It was millions of miles
behind it, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
So but letting go by, and we saw how a comet,
you know, reacts and does all the stuff, and you know,
you have the data and things are pretty particular in
the way that they work. Why, you know, why is
auvy and everybody like, oh, this is so different, Like
are we trying to like build up at a thing

(01:08:00):
where like why did it turn blue? And why didn't
the sun drag it into it, and you know, like,
why is it such a big deal right now? For
whatever reason that it is, That's what my reason.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
The reason is simple, Actually, I hate to say it
this way, but the chances of an object coming into
our solar system and going past Mars, Venus and Jupiter,
three of the big planets, three the main planets in
our solar system, the chances are like point zero zero
five percent that an object will do that. So that

(01:08:36):
is what peaud the curiosity of people like Abby and
other people, including myself. I was curious about it. So
as it turns out, though, even though the chances are
point zero zero five percent, it doesn't mean that it
isn't possibly just a coincidence. And in this particular case,
it appears that this is just a coincidence. As it

(01:09:01):
is to say, but a good one, A really good one,
A good one, very good one.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
For science, Okay, very good one for science. Because if
American government can start pumping more mud money into we
have no clue what's going on in our ocean and
our skies, and they're spending money on all this stuff,
that's just not you're right, Jody, for our mind and
everything else. Is going on, you know, and I really

(01:09:30):
just making my cly. I'm making my ply for the
astronomy science community right now. You need more funding to
figure out what the heck.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Is out there, Jody. I gotta let you. I gotta
let you go. And hey, thank you kid for calling
in so much.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Very there.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I love you too.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
Okay next month, bye.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Okay, bye. So anyway, yeah, she has some good questions.
She did.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Yeah, I have very good question, you know. I just
like I said, you know, everything that's reported on social
media is exaggerated tenfold. I mean, at one point, this
this thing was portrayed with a with a headline that
said latest image of three Eye outlists and it showed

(01:10:18):
the doomsday machine from the Star Trek episode called the
Doomsday Machine. It was a cone like it looked like
an oversized bugle snack. Okay, they used to get the
bugle snacks and it was a planet killing thing in
this episode of Star Trek, and they stretched it and
said this is it. And you know, you know, some
people actually believe that, and it's like, you know that

(01:10:40):
that just made me crazy. And that's why in the
three Eyeatlis Facebook group, I'm listed as an All Star
contributor because I've been just hitting them with factual data.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
But a lot of things we mark they don't want
to hear the truth, and that I do a blog.
I put it up on X and Blue and on
my you know, Facebook account, and you know, on my website.
People don't want to hear the truth. They want to
hear the doomsday that we're going to be attacked by
aliens that are seven billion years old and have a

(01:11:16):
beard it's like five miles long. I don't know they
want to they want us to be invaded. They can.
I mean, what else could it be.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
I just I just want the aliens to take them now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I want the aliens to come down and land and Washington,
d C. And and and take all the congressman and
senators and everybody else.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
It's gonna be great, gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
But again, I say this a lot on the show.
I do hear aliens eat brains, and if they take
the politicians, they'll be starved to death, you know, like
for the world, they'll be gone. That's good.

Speaker 6 (01:11:57):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
So we're not going to be invaded by aliens after all,
are we?

Speaker 6 (01:12:04):
Yeah? No, I suspect not. I have a feeling that
if there's alien life out there in the universe, which
I'm pretty sure there is, and if they're here, which
I'm pretty sure they are.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Those special sunglasses mark that you can put on and
see the aliens walking around.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
Oh, excellent movie with rowdy Roddy Piper. Oh, yeah, an
excellent movie. They live. Now you're audienceting whats they live?
That's a great movie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Yeah, go down to you know, the Dollar Tree and
get yourself some sunglasses and walk around. See what you see.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
I know that's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Now, one thing I do want to mention to you
real quick. We had back in October a very close flyby.
It went over Antarctica. It's like two hundred and sixty
six miles above the Earth's surface. But it was very small,
so it was not a large threat to the Earth.
But what happens if one comes bigger that we don't

(01:13:08):
expect and does the Coos flyline.

Speaker 6 (01:13:13):
Well, we have that happen all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Gary.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
You know, we're always getting hit by a space debris.
We get millions of tons a year of stuff hitting
the Earth, you know, and every now and then you
get reports of this large boom sound that was heard
in England, and a large boom was also heard in Newfoundland.
And you calculate where that was, and it shows you
that you missed a giant meteor that came into your

(01:13:37):
atmosphere and exploded. And that explosion is what was heard
in Newfoundland and what was heard in England. See, so
we have lots of this happening, lots of these impacts
happening quite a bit. And if you ever want to
go hunting for meteors, go to Antarctica, because anything that

(01:13:58):
you see that's dark on the top of the ice
is a meteor, all right, because that's the only place
you're going to have the rock is either deep under
the ice at the rock at the base of the
rock strata, or on the surface of the ice. So
hunting for meteors by going over Antarctica is a great idea.
You know, they can they can find all kinds of

(01:14:19):
meteors that way, and they stand out like a sore
thump because they're like little black dots on the on
the ice.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Interesting. Yeah, Now, how can people support what you do?

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
Yeah, that thank you, Gary. That's a really good good thing.
I forget until you say things you know, so thank
you well. As most people know, we have remote observatories
around the country and we are a nonprofit and none
of us take a salary for what we do. This
is all free and what we do is at Skythroughlive

(01:14:54):
dot org. That's skytur live dot org, all all one
sky Throughlive dot org. We have a site there that
shows you everything we've done. You can download our latest
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(01:15:17):
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for an hour about Pluto.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
How big is? Oh, Pluto is.

Speaker 6 (01:16:22):
Gosh the diameter. I knew you're gonna ask me that
it's gonna be if I recalled Pluto is Let's see Pluto. Oh, man,
it's a couple thousand miles across, and so I'll be
able to tell you in a second. I think it's
about maybe fifteen hundred miles or so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Didn't one time is the moon?

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
It was? It was classified as a planet, and it
has like five moons of its own. Now it's become
a dwarf planet. Now, okay, they they reclassified it and
they so now it's in the same level as the
asteroid that used to be the Asteroid Series and Vesta.

(01:17:07):
Those have been renamed as dwarf planets as well. So
at a certain size and below, they call you a
dwarf planet. And so Pluto is now a dwarf planet,
even though it is in its own orbit and even
though it has several moons of its own and I
believe it's a planet. So we have this T shirt Okay.
It has our Skyterrow livestream logo on the front and

(01:17:28):
on the back it says I need my space and
it shows all nine planets including Pluto. That's my that's
my protest. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
So skyterrolive dot org and sky through livestream on YouTube
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You can donate to us. We have a Patreon, we
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And we'll be able to see that nickel, be able
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see that carbon dioxide in it, and we'll be able

(01:18:45):
to see the composition ourselves and actually show this live
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The universe is very dynamic, you know, and I just
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Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
You know, Yeah, we need to know what the universe is.
And you know what you do. There's another guy on kiktok.
He goes on that does you know the moon? You know?
And of course after a while looking at crater after
crater gets kind of boring. I rather see the stars
than you know, the other planets and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:18):
Well, yeah, and you see the nebulae. You see places
where we were born, you know, these dark these dark
dust clouds that we image. It's in the dark where
life began, you know, as I always say, life began
in the dark in that dark, cold forbidding location. That's
where it all began, you know, and that's where life begins,

(01:19:38):
from the primordial soup of life that is in those
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Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
You know.

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If they want better ones, they can join our patriot
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So yeah, it's neat stuff, you know. And as you know,
I've told you this before. I knew I was going
to be an astronomer at age nine, right age nine,

(01:20:19):
you know, and so it just never waivered, and I
went into oceanography briefly, and then I decided I'm going
to go into astronomy. Inner space, gateway to outer space.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Very interesting. I'm glad you did, because you know, you
educate people and you do it in a way that
they understand, and that is what's important.

Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
Yeah, I asked if you'd say, there's everybody has their superpower, right,
you manage your blowtorts of a radio station there, okay,
and you send out you know, hundreds of thousands, millions
of people, okay, all your all the messages of all
your shows. Okay. I love being on your show for
that reason, because you are just such a cool guy

(01:20:59):
to hang out with. And I don't think people realize
what a cool guy you are. You know, they just
hear your radio voice. They don't hear all the other
things you say, which are kind of cool. You know,
one of these days you're going to have to just
take off all the take off all the blinders and
let everybody hear all the fun things you say.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
God, he'll be in jail. But again, don't hang up
at the end of the show, because I want to
talk to you. So I'm going to mute you. And
again before I do that, your website for people again,
go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
Sure, it's a sky through her live dot org and
that's sky t Oure live dot org. That's our portal,
and then sky to her live stream on YouTube. You
can get through the YouTube site from sky to live
dot org. That's a portal to everything we do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
And I recommend again too to make a donation because
I tell you what, I think he has now three
telescopes and maybe down the road maybe they'll get more.
And that is going to be so exciting because we're
learning more about space, you know, if you remember an
old star trek, you know, again, we're learning more about

(01:22:10):
our environment, not on our planet, but out there. So anyway,
I want to thank everybody it is tuned in tonight.
And who did we have on chat here tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Jacy, Well, we've got bar, We've got Jody, We've got
Rory Arts out there tonight. We had some other new
people like night Rider was out there. We got buzz
your Spirits.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Some entertainment company too was on there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Yeah, there was an entertainment company. There was a lot
of them. And of course that's just the ones we
can see. There's a lot of others out there. So
thank you all for being in chat. Much appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
And thank you to the two callers tonight too. I
didn't even expect really any colors tonight, and I do
appreciate you calling in.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Who do we have next Friday? Well, let's just look
that up. Let's see next Friday we have. Could that
be true? Oh oh well, actually we've got two shows
next week. Actually we have a Thursday show with mister
Darryl Denton, very well known in the Bigfoot Dog Manfield.

(01:23:18):
And then next Friday we have Brian Corey Dobbs coming on.
And you want to talk about structures on Mars. He's
got the evidence to back it up. He made a
documentary and he's been a big time researcher of it.
So that's gonna be pretty fascinating. You don't want to
miss that one.

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