November 13, 2025 • 16 mins
In this throwback clip, we tackle a tough question: Do companies really make mistakes with products that coma across as racist, or is it something deeper? We break down how these missteps happen, why they spark outrage, and what it means for brands in today's world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big thanks for listening to from Darce snippets.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Stay locked in and don't forget to like, share and subscribe.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Do it now?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I mean, right now?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Do you really think this is the next topic y'all?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
By the way, do you really think company making mistakes
by having racist products really matter? Is it really for
free publicity? And will black people really stop wearing products?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Do you think it's a mistake that they always coming
out with this racist products and they'd be like, oh
my bad, we're gonna take it down, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, it's just hey, it's just like the whole Jesse
situation with Hits.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm saying, you know, all our fault and then all
of us before you know what, they salves go up.
Because people probably was coming to that point where, you know,
why do we need to get this? Because when I
went to Vegas, I went inside of a Guccie store
and I'm looking at this stuff. The man or the
one like Sodi bar that headband looked like yo, it
(01:14):
looked like somebody with a fat ass head and a
helmet stretching.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm just saying, so, oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What happened when you went to the Gucci.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
They had some shoes that looked like there was some
British snikes and I'm like some British knights and them
looked like some shoes that man looked like they wearing Rugby.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I mean that's what it looked like. I mean, it
looked off. The shoes looked awful.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
They had some Gucci slippers that was like one hundred
two hundred dollars. I'm like, for why, I mean, and see,
that's the whole thing. And like I said, man, I
can see their cells going down. So to get your
name out there, just like celebrities, you know what what's
the cost? You know, what would you do? And if
(02:06):
for something like that, I'm saying for us and I
will coach y'all know him for over the years.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Man, even think about it, a person, well, a grown
dance person and that dog. The parent would go broke
just to go and buy the jas They.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Not ay, they would not say bruther, They would not
spend time with their child, but they would go wait
in the line for two days.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
To go get some ja's. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They gotta stay fresh.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They gotta stay fresh.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And well, the point I'm getting at is, even if
Gucci was to do something like that would have happened.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
People will put a Floyd Mayweather and be Gucci down.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Now with that being said, no telling what Gucci did,
they probably could have paid him to do something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
No, you don't think they would.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, there is Floyd, you know, he gonna buy them
stuff anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But if they paid him, so what they need.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Him for got everybody talking about and.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
To get that.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
That's what they do. They always have them. Okay, I
ask you this question.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
They always have a mistake of making it about something
about the black people, right, but you never hear about
no other race because if they do another race, it
ain't gonna get the same level of publicity as they do,
or they probably gonna get the same uproar like when they.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Do black people.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, because so therefore they make it they go through
thirty people to get approved and then they just be like,
my bad.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Weird, it's stepped through the cracks.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
But then by did that, they already got the million
dollars worth of worldwide publicity for nothing for free. Maybe,
so you just said anythink like, do you really think
there was a mistake?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
No, I don't think it was an any any company
that does that, man, because A.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean for Action ain't never had that mistake while
there the action though nothing, they never had that mistake
like all these high end places itself for H and M,
except like H you know H and them not high end.
But you know it's such like Gucci and Probable and
everybody else having all these mistakes out the blue and
(04:42):
then don't know where it's coming from.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You ain't never seen a dollar store.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And that's how they're doing they Uh, who was it?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What was people boycotting?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It was from something when they started boycotting, and before
you know it, everything changed.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean nothing really changed.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It changed for a little second, but before you know it,
you know what I'm saying, like the whole thing will
flow me what it did?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know? And there's people like that be like, well, man.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You know when it comes when I think when it
comes to money, at some point people look at it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
The thing I don't understand is why if it was
like yeah, it it was such a big deal, why.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Would we only stop worrying it for three months? What
do that prove?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
So I put my Gucci stuff up and then they
come to letting fifty nine, be like, oh, yes, about
that time to go break the Gucci back out. It's
about my three three month mark.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Three month Minium three max baby.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But I guys to tell you one PSA, as black people,
we gotta stop burning stuff that we already bought. Just
go if something like that happened again, just go give
it to a poor person to go donated or something like.
But you burning is not really helping you because you
(06:07):
paid for it, so therefore they don't really care what
you do with your stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, because you already paid them for the stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yep, once it's out the stores, they don't care.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They don't care.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And and yeah, man, the whole, the whole, it's it's
I don't know, man, it's it's just crazy man, just
the things like that.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean, if you think about it, why would you
even pay that much for a piece of clothes?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Because that was the piggyback for my next topic. Do
you really think the high end fashioned people care about
black people plus or do you care about their clothes
since they so expensive? Hey, like this sounds like rich
people probably tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And you know the funny part it don't be rich
people problem. It's only poor people problems. It's the people
who try to Let me see, I've seen a commercial
and it's funny. It was from back in the day
on how uh they were. They were talking about how
to get black people to uh, how the consumer?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Wait? Did they get uh, how to get black people
to consume stuff?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Or how the consumer?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's the consumer is the it's the company?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Or are we the customers consumer? Wait? Which one? The
company is the consumer? Or is it the cost? Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You were the consul?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, they tried to get us to cons uh.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The businesses uh for black people since we wasn't like
on the priority list, or since we were looked.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
At as being.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
The low of the low, as being nothing. Having fancy
things will put us in a place where we're on
another level.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We're not poor.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
This represents me having money in some type of class.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Because you think about it, it's always been like that.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well, let me ask you something. Since you said that,
you go on Instagram, Facebook. Okay, if it was a
poor person putting up a car like a night day escort,
do you think people really better I a person wearing
(08:37):
a regular white T shirt or some regular like white rebox.
You think person really gonna batter compared to the person
who put up a Rose Roys a half a million
dollar car wearing a Gucci T shirt with some Balenciaga
shoes on.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That does what that makes That's that puts you in
another class.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I mean vision wise, I mean I see you be like, dang,
they doing good for himself. And that's what the whole
and the thing is was this was a racist commercial.
They had black people in it. Black I mean a
dude had on a long coat with his little head on,
with his with his old lady. And it was like,
we want them to feel like they are like us,
but not knowing that they're only making us richer. And
(09:26):
you know they're they look they look more dumb buying.
You know, we still look at them as nothing, but
we treat them, but we treat them like they are
good people.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Some shit like they always had their mistake with black face.
But to jump I had to jump off subject right quick. People,
I just need y'all to ride with you boy, since
you're from New Orleans, do y'all have black face down.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
For Mardi grau form Madi gro.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Zul them now it's black face, and what all people were.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
As black face?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
They had a bush uh uh about who wouldn't that normally?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
What nationality is, it'll be, it'll be.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Uh it's see.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
The thing is, I don't know, I wouldn't think that
there would have been that many black people on the
floats back then. Uh So I'm pretty sure it started
off with the white people, because I don't know what
black person.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Like back then would have drew their face black when
they're already.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Black signified.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, from what I've been, from what I've noticed, the
black face itself has been you know, a racist character.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It was in cartoons, it's on products from back in
the day, and that's what it's always signifies. But with
the Zulu, it's just a New Orleans tradition, meaning you
know with the parades, you know, they do a whole
lot of stuff with masks and paintings and it is.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Honestly white folks. And now since they.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Came out with the whole Gucci black face thing, I
thought about that before anybody said anything. I'm like, well,
shouldn't the Zulu think about changing that? Because it makes
you think now, but what exactly is the Zulu it's
like it's a traditional like a traditional matter of fact,
(11:46):
let me look that up.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So they don't do this.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
They've been doing this monigra ever since the beginning of Minigrade,
it could be even before then.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And not nobody had a problem with this black face
in the moneygra parade.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
People probably have been haven't but haven't said anything because.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It is like a big part of the mara.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's on fat Tuesday. It's on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
And yes, the Zulu ball, I mean people you have
to pay a you have to pay a fee to be.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
In a like a member. I mean, it's it's a
whole lot.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
They have balls, I want to say monthly or every
so often, but they continue doing you know things all
day like a little festival, you know. But for midic ride,
this is when, you know, they on the flow and
the Zulu parade is just the strictly Zulu So they
have I don't know how many floats, maybe a hundred
(12:52):
maybe more. I mean yeah, and people throwing out coca nuts, bees,
you know, stuff like that, but they are in the
black face.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh and it's black people white.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What would person look look up to see this. I
ain't been to the magra.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Well, would they look up this, let me see Zulu Parade.
I would say, look up Zulu Parade, New Orleans and
let me see. Okay, check it. It's originated in this
(13:31):
Christian tradition.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Today the celebration is better known as it did for
people of all fates, races, and initiitis to come together
at the parades, eat good food, great food, and compete
to catch beads. I'm pretty sure it's deeper than that,
you know, by its simply saying Madigras festivals in New Orleans,
(13:53):
you know, originated in this you know, Christian tradition. So
I'm pretty sure at some point in it started from
some type of races, you know, with the black face itself,
because like I said, I don't I have never seen
a black person back in the day where black you know,
so like.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Never, I don't, my mom probably not. I an't even
like my face playing.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So you know, I'm thinking, like you know, that that
could be one thing and by us being used to
seeing it. And I think at some point our parents
didn't know the history of things because.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
They were in the era of or in that time
where they were.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
They were free, but at some point they were able
to be comfortable and.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I want to say, gain a living, not to wear
it as their slaves. So what was told from their
parents to them?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You know, they're like okay, cool, you know, and what
he was told it's kind of like okay. But at
the same time, you know, the older we I know,
I get. I'm just kind of like the traditions in
which you know, I thought about.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
It and went through.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm like, that ain't how I feel to this day.
So with that being said, the whole Zulu and the
blackface thing, man, it's been going on for years and
it's just something that was we were blindfolded because we
wasn't taught. And the whole blackface thing, I was extremely
racist ass things.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So you know, it's in tune in depth and some stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I never even known that.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, I guess because I've never been down into Mardi Grass,
So how would I know that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Man, it's all about Bourbon Street. You say Madigrad, do
you say Bourbon.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Zua?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But man, I you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Man, these companies didn't product just do something though, Yeah,
they just did something, and I'm like, well, dang, I
guess they all gotta follow each other at some point
Big thanks for listening to from Darce snippets.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Stay locked in and don't forget to like, share and subscribe.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Do it now?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I mean, right now?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Do you really think this is the next topic y'all?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
By the way, do you really think company making mistakes
by having racist products really matter? Is it really for
free publicity? And will black people really stop wearing products?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Do you think it's a mistake that they always coming
out with this racist products and they'd be like, oh
my bad, we're gonna take it down, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, it's just hey, it's just like the whole Jesse
situation with Hits.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm saying, you know, all our fault and then all
of us before you know what, they salves go up.
Because people probably was coming to that point where, you know,
why do we need to get this? Because when I
went to Vegas, I went inside of a Guccie store
and I'm looking at this stuff. The man or the
one like Sodi bar that headband looked like yo, it
(01:14):
looked like somebody with a fat ass head and a
helmet stretching.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm just saying, so, oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What happened when you went to the Gucci.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
They had some shoes that looked like there was some
British snikes and I'm like some British knights and them
looked like some shoes that man looked like they wearing Rugby.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I mean that's what it looked like. I mean, it
looked off. The shoes looked awful.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
They had some Gucci slippers that was like one hundred
two hundred dollars. I'm like, for why, I mean, and see,
that's the whole thing. And like I said, man, I
can see their cells going down. So to get your
name out there, just like celebrities, you know what what's
the cost? You know, what would you do? And if
(02:06):
for something like that, I'm saying for us and I
will coach y'all know him for over the years.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Man, even think about it, a person, well, a grown
dance person and that dog. The parent would go broke
just to go and buy the jas They.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Not ay, they would not say bruther, They would not
spend time with their child, but they would go wait
in the line for two days.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
To go get some ja's. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They gotta stay fresh.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They gotta stay fresh.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And well, the point I'm getting at is, even if
Gucci was to do something like that would have happened.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
People will put a Floyd Mayweather and be Gucci down.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Now with that being said, no telling what Gucci did,
they probably could have paid him to do something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
No, you don't think they would.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, there is Floyd, you know, he gonna buy them
stuff anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But if they paid him, so what they need.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Him for got everybody talking about and.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
To get that.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
That's what they do. They always have them. Okay, I
ask you this question.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
They always have a mistake of making it about something
about the black people, right, but you never hear about
no other race because if they do another race, it
ain't gonna get the same level of publicity as they do,
or they probably gonna get the same uproar like when they.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Do black people.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, because so therefore they make it they go through
thirty people to get approved and then they just be like,
my bad.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Weird, it's stepped through the cracks.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
But then by did that, they already got the million
dollars worth of worldwide publicity for nothing for free. Maybe,
so you just said anythink like, do you really think
there was a mistake?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
No, I don't think it was an any any company
that does that, man, because A.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean for Action ain't never had that mistake while
there the action though nothing, they never had that mistake
like all these high end places itself for H and M,
except like H you know H and them not high end.
But you know it's such like Gucci and Probable and
everybody else having all these mistakes out the blue and
(04:42):
then don't know where it's coming from.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You ain't never seen a dollar store.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And that's how they're doing they Uh, who was it?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What was people boycotting?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It was from something when they started boycotting, and before
you know it, everything changed.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean nothing really changed.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It changed for a little second, but before you know it,
you know what I'm saying, like the whole thing will
flow me what it did?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know? And there's people like that be like, well, man.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You know when it comes when I think when it
comes to money, at some point people look at it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
The thing I don't understand is why if it was
like yeah, it it was such a big deal, why.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Would we only stop worrying it for three months? What
do that prove?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
So I put my Gucci stuff up and then they
come to letting fifty nine, be like, oh, yes, about
that time to go break the Gucci back out. It's
about my three three month mark.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Three month Minium three max baby.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But I guys to tell you one PSA, as black people,
we gotta stop burning stuff that we already bought. Just
go if something like that happened again, just go give
it to a poor person to go donated or something like.
But you burning is not really helping you because you
(06:07):
paid for it, so therefore they don't really care what
you do with your stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, because you already paid them for the stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yep, once it's out the stores, they don't care.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They don't care.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And and yeah, man, the whole, the whole, it's it's
I don't know, man, it's it's just crazy man, just
the things like that.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean, if you think about it, why would you
even pay that much for a piece of clothes?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Because that was the piggyback for my next topic. Do
you really think the high end fashioned people care about
black people plus or do you care about their clothes
since they so expensive? Hey, like this sounds like rich
people probably tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And you know the funny part it don't be rich
people problem. It's only poor people problems. It's the people
who try to Let me see, I've seen a commercial
and it's funny. It was from back in the day
on how uh they were. They were talking about how
to get black people to uh, how the consumer?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Wait? Did they get uh, how to get black people
to consume stuff?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Or how the consumer?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's the consumer is the it's the company?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Or are we the customers consumer? Wait? Which one? The
company is the consumer? Or is it the cost? Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You were the consul?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, they tried to get us to cons uh.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The businesses uh for black people since we wasn't like
on the priority list, or since we were looked.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
At as being.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
The low of the low, as being nothing. Having fancy
things will put us in a place where we're on
another level.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We're not poor.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
This represents me having money in some type of class.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Because you think about it, it's always been like that.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well, let me ask you something. Since you said that,
you go on Instagram, Facebook. Okay, if it was a
poor person putting up a car like a night day escort,
do you think people really better I a person wearing
(08:37):
a regular white T shirt or some regular like white rebox.
You think person really gonna batter compared to the person
who put up a Rose Roys a half a million
dollar car wearing a Gucci T shirt with some Balenciaga
shoes on.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That does what that makes That's that puts you in
another class.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I mean vision wise, I mean I see you be like, dang,
they doing good for himself. And that's what the whole
and the thing is was this was a racist commercial.
They had black people in it. Black I mean a
dude had on a long coat with his little head on,
with his with his old lady. And it was like,
we want them to feel like they are like us,
but not knowing that they're only making us richer. And
(09:26):
you know they're they look they look more dumb buying.
You know, we still look at them as nothing, but
we treat them, but we treat them like they are
good people.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Some shit like they always had their mistake with black face.
But to jump I had to jump off subject right quick. People,
I just need y'all to ride with you boy, since
you're from New Orleans, do y'all have black face down.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
For Mardi grau form Madi gro.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Zul them now it's black face, and what all people were.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
As black face?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
They had a bush uh uh about who wouldn't that normally?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
What nationality is, it'll be, it'll be.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Uh it's see.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
The thing is, I don't know, I wouldn't think that
there would have been that many black people on the
floats back then. Uh So I'm pretty sure it started
off with the white people, because I don't know what
black person.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Like back then would have drew their face black when
they're already.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Black signified.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, from what I've been, from what I've noticed, the
black face itself has been you know, a racist character.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It was in cartoons, it's on products from back in
the day, and that's what it's always signifies. But with
the Zulu, it's just a New Orleans tradition, meaning you
know with the parades, you know, they do a whole
lot of stuff with masks and paintings and it is.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Honestly white folks. And now since they.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Came out with the whole Gucci black face thing, I
thought about that before anybody said anything. I'm like, well,
shouldn't the Zulu think about changing that? Because it makes
you think now, but what exactly is the Zulu it's
like it's a traditional like a traditional matter of fact,
(11:46):
let me look that up.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So they don't do this.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
They've been doing this monigra ever since the beginning of Minigrade,
it could be even before then.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And not nobody had a problem with this black face
in the moneygra parade.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
People probably have been haven't but haven't said anything because.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It is like a big part of the mara.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's on fat Tuesday. It's on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
And yes, the Zulu ball, I mean people you have
to pay a you have to pay a fee to be.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
In a like a member. I mean, it's it's a
whole lot.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
They have balls, I want to say monthly or every
so often, but they continue doing you know things all
day like a little festival, you know. But for midic ride,
this is when, you know, they on the flow and
the Zulu parade is just the strictly Zulu So they
have I don't know how many floats, maybe a hundred
(12:52):
maybe more. I mean yeah, and people throwing out coca nuts, bees,
you know, stuff like that, but they are in the
black face.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh and it's black people white.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What would person look look up to see this. I
ain't been to the magra.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Well, would they look up this, let me see Zulu Parade.
I would say, look up Zulu Parade, New Orleans and
let me see. Okay, check it. It's originated in this
(13:31):
Christian tradition.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Today the celebration is better known as it did for
people of all fates, races, and initiitis to come together
at the parades, eat good food, great food, and compete
to catch beads. I'm pretty sure it's deeper than that,
you know, by its simply saying Madigras festivals in New Orleans,
(13:53):
you know, originated in this you know, Christian tradition. So
I'm pretty sure at some point in it started from
some type of races, you know, with the black face itself,
because like I said, I don't I have never seen
a black person back in the day where black you know,
so like.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Never, I don't, my mom probably not. I an't even
like my face playing.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So you know, I'm thinking, like you know, that that
could be one thing and by us being used to
seeing it. And I think at some point our parents
didn't know the history of things because.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
They were in the era of or in that time
where they were.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
They were free, but at some point they were able
to be comfortable and.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I want to say, gain a living, not to wear
it as their slaves. So what was told from their
parents to them?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You know, they're like okay, cool, you know, and what
he was told it's kind of like okay. But at
the same time, you know, the older we I know,
I get. I'm just kind of like the traditions in
which you know, I thought about.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
It and went through.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm like, that ain't how I feel to this day.
So with that being said, the whole Zulu and the
blackface thing, man, it's been going on for years and
it's just something that was we were blindfolded because we
wasn't taught. And the whole blackface thing, I was extremely
racist ass things.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So you know, it's in tune in depth and some stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I never even known that.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, I guess because I've never been down into Mardi Grass,
So how would I know that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Man, it's all about Bourbon Street. You say Madigrad, do
you say Bourbon.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Zua?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But man, I you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Man, these companies didn't product just do something though, Yeah,
they just did something, and I'm like, well, dang, I
guess they all gotta follow each other at some point
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