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July 31, 2025 36 mins
Dr. Jack Stockwell, NUCCA Chiropractor and GAPS Practitioner (8666-867-5070) ForbiddenDoctor.com | JackStockwell.com) joins Doug Stephan this week on Good Day Health to explore the root causes of modern health epidemics. He references Chinese Lessons to Western Medicine and how traditional diets and lifestyles once protected us from conditions like heart disease — which wasn’t the #1 killer in the U.S. a century ago.

Jack shares insight on food-based supplements like Cataplex-B, the rise of autoimmune brain degeneration, and why raw cow’s milk is a forgotten health food.

The conversation turns to wearable health trackers, and what to eat if you wake up hungry in the middle of the night.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Good Day Health Podcast with doctor Jack Stockwell,
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to the Good Day Health Show. I am doctor
Jack Stockwell at Forbidden doctor dot com and once again
to be a part of the Good Day Health Show.
I've got some things I want to talk about. I
want to start off with heart disease, America's leading cause
of death. We all know that, and then a couple

(00:30):
of other things I want to get to, hopefully enough
time about breaking your sugar habit. And then I think
if I can squeeze in some time, the difference between
a synthetic vitamin and a whole food concentrate in light
of the idea as to the difference between sitting down

(00:51):
to a well prepared meal that's balanced between the different
kinds of proteins, fats, and carbohydrates we want and the
nutrition we would get from that as opposed to a
bottle of synthetic vitamins. There are nothing more than just drugs.

(01:12):
So I would like to contrast that if we have
some time. But I want to start off with heart
disease because the appalling prevalence of heart disease in this
country is really a rather remarkable phenomenon in the sense
that you knowost almost a million victims a year dying

(01:37):
from heart disease. And if a war caused the slaughter.
Let's say, if we were at war right now and
it caused the slaughter of seven hundred and fifty thousand
servicemen and women every year, what would we be doing

(01:58):
to stop the war? What would we do to stop
that fight? But when you have a purely preventable deficiency
disease killing the same number of unsuspecting victims, we hardly
give it a second thought. And it's very important what
I just said, a deficiency disease, that's what heart disease is.

(02:20):
Heart disease is a disease of certain nutritional deficiencies that
lead to the weakness of the milcardium the heart muscle itself,
and dysfunction of the valves between the chambers of the heart.
Hardly anything more important is the nutritional support of this

(02:42):
organ to function correctly. Because remember, heart disease as we
know it today only began to explode about one hundred
years ago. Prior to that, there was hardly any heart
disease anywhere and the reason why simply is because people
late from the farm. Now we eat from a grocery store,

(03:05):
of which I I think I can honestly say seventy
five to eighty percent of what is in the grocery
store is not fit for human consumption. Overly processed, loaded
with chemicals. The nutritional aspects of that food have been
removed in order to obtain shelf life. And so there

(03:29):
is this book that I was looking at, Chinese Lessons
to Western Medicine, published back in nineteen forty one, and
it says this I'm quoting from it. Another point which
must be specifically mentioned is the infrequency of arteriosclerosis in
northern China. It may be significant that the only diabetic

(03:53):
Chinese patient with typical angina pectoris or angina pain we
saw during the last two years was one inveterate cigarette smoker.
In China, the hypertensive patients do not suffer from coronary
thrombosis as is observed so often in the western part

(04:15):
of the world. You kind of have to wonder why
why would that be the case? Where they have hardly
any arteriosclerosis, hardly any hardening of the arteries that usually
leads to high blood pressure. And they only found one

(04:37):
diabetic patient with chest pain one how many Chinese one?
And he was a smoker. Now, during the Korean War,
the autopsies on American soldiers that were killed in battle
showed seventy six percent were afflicted with advanced corone lesions. Now,

(05:02):
this is the early nineteen fifties. None of the Native
Korean troops showed this condition. Now, I want to say
that again, autopsies on American even though we have dead
among our honored servicemen who are in conflict in battle,

(05:24):
and we know that they were killed because of an explosion,
a grenade, a bullet, or whatever else, autopsies are still
performed to make sure that what we think killed them
is what killed them and that there wasn't something else
going on. Well, during the Korean War, seventy six percent

(05:45):
of those that were of American soldiers that were killed
in battle, seventy six out of one hundred had advanced
coronary lesions. How old were these boys late teens, early twenties,
and of course some of them were older than that
had already developed advanced coronary illusions. But none of the

(06:08):
Native Korean troops of the South Korean troops that were
fighting with us on an autopsy showed any coronary problems,
any heart problems, and why because our refined food deprived
our soldiers of the fat soluble vitamins, including the vitamin

(06:29):
E complex with its hormone precursors and the E two factor.
The E two factor of vitamin E is exactly the
same effect on the coronary circulation as nitroglycerine. It relieves
angina pain in the course of minutes and quickly wipes
out the disease altogether, just as wipe germ or excuse me,

(06:50):
wheat germ will wipe out barry berry vitamin B one deficiency,
or or fresh tomato, fresh tomatoes from the vine will
cure scurvy. So when your doctor, if you're a heart patient,

(07:11):
is checking you routinely for heart lesions, does he talk
about deficiencies, Does he talk about vitamin deficiencies, mineral deficiencies,
or does he just talk about drug deficiency? In other words,
the problems that you're suffering from chest pain or weakness,

(07:33):
or or this fatigue that you can't seem to get
around when you get over, when you get up and
move around, does he talk to you in terms of, well,
you need to be adding this to your diet. You
need to you need to make sure that you keep
this stuff out of your diet in the sense of
processed foods. No, of course not. They're not doing that

(07:54):
a lot of it. And I know this because I
take care of a lot of cardiology patients in my clinic,
and we have a device called the Endo cardiograph. It's
been around as long as the e KG has been,
but it works on what is called ouscultation sound. And
I was reading this recent article in Cardiology here not

(08:16):
too long ago that said there is still no better
way to assess what is going on in the heart
than through sound, which is the traditional stethoscope. Well, I
have a device called the Heart Sound Recorder that uses ouscultation,

(08:39):
uses sound, and the pickup device, just like the end
of a stethoscope, is placed over the four valves and
this listens to the strength and power of the heart
muscle contraction as well as the opening and the closing
of the valves. And it shows me in real time

(09:02):
where the weaknesses in the heart are. And by giving
my patience some concentrated foods in the form of some
pills that are extracted from certain food sources that are
known to feed the heart. In minutes, we can show

(09:23):
an immediate change in the function of the heart. So
what does that mean, Well, it means that most heart
lesions can be quickly remedied by addressing the deficiency. Now
here's a few things that can be routinely corrected. Because

(09:43):
we do this with patients in our clinic all the time,
you heard of murmurs. A murmur is any sound coming
out of the heart that is different than what it
should be, and murmurs often will indicate heart enlargement, something
that's in the past was referred to as an athlete's

(10:03):
heart because athletes towards the end of their careers have
in large hearts, sometimes congenital that we believe is due
to valve leakage secondary to the distortion of the heart
structure because of enlargement. Why does a heart get Why
does a heart get bigger? Why does it large cardiomegaly?
Why does the heart get bigger Because it's not pumping

(10:26):
enough blood, so the brain makes it get bigger. Also,
weakness of the heart muscle subject to gravity will cause
the heart to pull down a bit in the chest
and enlarge. But both of them come back to malnutrition,
the heart not getting the food that it needs to get.

(10:49):
Natural vitamin B complex promptly eliminates these murmurs, often within
ten minutes of chewing the tablet by the patient, and
so B complex restores the normal muscle tone and it
promotes the re establishment of normal valve position, ending valve

(11:12):
leakage which you will see in regurgitation. Now, natural B.
The problem is ninety nine percent of the B vitamins
in the marketplace are synthetic and they will not do
what I just said only if the B vitamin is
extracted from food itself. How do you tell the difference?

(11:34):
Will you read the label and if it has the
chemical names for thiamin or ribul flavin or niacin or
some of the other B vitamins. If it has a
chemical name, it's synthetic. Now, I want to talk about
your heart skipping a bead. I want to talk about
it rhythmias, fibrillation, some of the other things that we

(11:55):
pick up with it either at EKG or with this
heart sound recorder, and what we do about those things
that can also show a quick change. And I'll talk
about that as soon as I'm back from the break.
I'm doctor Jack Stockwell at Forbidden Door dot com talking
about the heart. I'm doctor Jackstockwill at forbiddendoctor dot com

(12:17):
and I'm talking about the heart. And the reason I'm
talking about the heart is it's the number one killer
in America, and sadly enough, it was not the number
one killer in America one hundred years ago. And as
our diets moved from the farm to the grocery store,
and then from the grocery store to I don't know
what you want to call it today, you know the

(12:40):
massive distribution point of overly processed, undernourished foods that look good,
that taste good, but they're not good, and they make
up the majority of our diet. And no organ in
the body suffers faster from malnutrition than the heart does,

(13:00):
and conversely, no organ in the body responds to improve
nutrition faster than the heart. Now I started off talking
about murmurs and natural vitamin B complex. Now what I
recommend uh And it's available at forbiddendoctor dot com. Cataplex

(13:24):
B Core. It's Cataplex C A T A P L
e X, just like it sounds cataplex b hyphen core
co r. It has in this B complex vitamin B four.
It's a part of the thiamin structure. But vitamin B

(13:44):
four is also known as the anti paralytic vitamin. It's
vitamin B four, which, interestingly enough, the FDA says doesn't exist.
They'll talk about vitamin B one and two and three
and five and start going up the line, but they
don't talk about vitamin before because that is the heart vitamin.

(14:06):
That should tell you something. So when you're dealing with
a heart that skips a beat, or it has an
extra beat, or there are arrhythmias or fibrillation, these are
all phenomena that follow long periods of deficient nutrition. And
again I am comparing the diet of today with the

(14:29):
diet of our grandparents and great grandparents. According to the
CDC in nineteen ten, in the top ten causes of death,
heart disease isn't even mentioned. In nineteen ten, cancer is

(14:50):
number ten. The number one cause of death of men
eighteen to forty five accidental death. You can see this
stuff at CDC dot gov yourself looking up these statistics.
So when your heart is skipping a beat and You
don't see these things in kids. You don't see kids

(15:12):
with extra beats or skipping a beat, or arrhythmias or fibillation.
Why because they're still, for the most part, carrying the
nutrition they picked up from their mothers during gestation. But
I am now doing heart scans on teenagers showing serious
cardiac deficiencies and they haven't even finished adolescence. And their

(15:38):
diets are primarily breakfast cereal, which is just junk food.
There's hardly any nutrition in breakfast cereal at all, and
snacking stuff, all the snack foods that make up their diet.
They are suffering from malnutrition and they haven't even reached
age twenty one. And then when they when their foods

(16:02):
are packed with refined sugar and bleached flower which the
heart vitamins have been removed from flour when they're bleached,
Oh my goodness, it's just it's just, I don't know,
it's it's a pandemic. It's a pandemic of vitamin deficiencies

(16:22):
that are causing these heart problems. And yes, there there
are other problems that follow that with the arterio or
atherosclerosis and other things that start showing up. All right,
I want to talk to you more about the heart
as we go along. Here, I'm doctor Jack Stockwell at
forbiddendoctor dot com. Be right back.

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Speaker 2 (17:39):
I'm doctor Jack Stockwell at forbiddendoctor dot com. I was
talking about cataplex B core as the heart vitamin. I
take four of them every morning. There's just before I
do anything else I take, and there's other things I
take from my heart. I will be seventy five in
four months. I still see a full load of patients

(18:03):
still going one hundred miles an hour, and I attribute
that to my diet now and what limited exercise I do.
I certainly could be doing more exercise. But the important
thing is you can't in today's dietary selections of what

(18:25):
people are eating for breakfast, lunch, and dinner get the
nutrition your heart let alone, your brain and liver and
kidneys need from your dietary choices alone. You have to supplement.
And this is what Bobby Kennedy is all about as
the new Secretary of Health and Human Services. This is

(18:49):
his main point, and he's focusing on children, and he's
focusing on the chronic diseases of children. And one of
the major reasons, he says, is the food these kids reading.
And he's talking about the school lunches, and he's talking
about the foods that we have at home for our kids,
And why in the world do we have more than

(19:10):
fifty percent of the kids in this country adolescent children
with at least one chronic disease, and one in three
age twelve to seventeen is pre diabetic. Well, it's not
some mystical dust from the tail of a comet that's
spread over the earth. It comes down to the food.

(19:31):
So't I don't want to sound like I'm preaching here,
and I don't want to sound like I'm punishing somebody.
It's just heart disease is so easy to turn around.
We do it all the time. I have such improved
heart scans in my patients who will take this seriously,

(19:54):
and of course they feel the difference. They stand up,
they don't feel faint, They march across the room or
down the street and back without heart pain, without chest pain,
and just by changing some things in their diet and
supplementing with food based supplements, not the stuff that comes

(20:15):
out of a laboratory. One of my favorite maxims is this,
if there's no vitality in the soil, there is no
vitality in the bottle, pure and simple, and the soil
doesn't just mean mother nature's soil in the earth. The
soil for a lot of these supplements is what's being

(20:36):
mixed with chemical powders in a laboratory somewhere being stamped
into a pill. And because of the food labeling laws
and the FDA laws or regulations, they can stamp vitamin
B on the front of that bottle when it's just synthetic. Now,
there are some people out there who say, well, natural

(20:57):
and synthetic vitamins are identical. Well, what can be seen
on the heart sound recorder in a matter of minutes
after these tablets are chewed with a little bit of
water and wash it down, I can see immediately a
change in the scan for the better when it's a

(21:19):
food based vitamin. When it's a chemical based vitamin, I
don't see a change. The previously weak heart heart scan
stays weak now. And I want it to be understood
that in the case of fibrillation, you're not going to

(21:43):
be cured by a vitamin. You've got a badly damaged
heart and you have to realize that this condition is
very serious and you need the best skill that your
cardiologists can give you. The fibrillation may disappear with some
drug or so. But it's going to come back unless
some other things are done in its place. And that's

(22:06):
why we use something called cardiotrophin. It's a protomorphogin for
the heart, and it promotes a rebuilding of the heart tissue,
certainly for a patient who's developed natural tissue antibodies to
his heart over a long history of overload. One thing
that some enlightened doctors are beginning to check in blood

(22:28):
work is the auto antibodies, the antibodies that your body
builds against yourself. It's one thing to be exposed to
some pathogen. You walk into a room and there's somebody
with flu or a bad cold, or bronchitis or whatever,
and you happen to pick up whatever they claim is

(22:51):
causing that problem. If you have a strong immune system,
you won't even know that your immune system is working,
but your immune system is already building antibodies against that
pathogen to protect you from it so you don't get sick. Unfortunately,
the body will build antibodies against you. This is what

(23:13):
autoimmune disease is all about, and the body will build
antibodies to your heart. The Debaking Institute in Houston, the
ones that built the first artificial heart. To this day
claim that all heart disease is associated with auto antibodies.

(23:33):
No matter what your heart problem is, you have within
you antibodies fighting your heart. How in the world is
such a thing even possible? Because your immune system, because
of the weakness of the heart and the sloughing off
of heart tissue faster than it should be recycled, your

(23:53):
immune system picks it up and does not want that
excess cardiac tissue and the limpher and of blood, and
it sees it as the enemy. That's why we use
something called cardiotrophin because it stops the auto antibody attack.
It's something called oral tolerization. Medicine has been studying this

(24:14):
for quite a while, but they don't have the second
half of the picture. The first half of the picture
is to stop the auto antibody attack against the heart,
or the liver, or the brain, whatever organ is suffering
from these problems. We know that advanced mental problems, especially
with Alzheimer's or anything in the Alzheimer's spectrum, there's also

(24:35):
auto antibodies against the brain. And they learned how to
stop the auto antibody attack in modern medicine called oral tolerization.
The second half is how do you stop it from happening.
Once you got it under control, what causes it to
come back? If you stopped whatever you were administering to

(24:58):
stop the auto antibody attack. If you stop that, the
attack regaate restarts. It's nutrition. It's simply nutrition feeding the
organ foods that are specific for that particular organ to
rebuild the tissue of that organ, so the immune system
no longer sees it as an enemy. I was reading

(25:18):
some studies on various problems with central nervous system degeneration
involving the brain, and almost in every case there's auto
antibodies against the brain that your immune system has built. Oh,
one hundred years ago whenever, it was the fellow that

(25:40):
developed Erlik Paul Erlick, a famous doctor I think he's French,
a little over one hundred years ago, and he suggested
something called auto toxic toxicosis. Horribleness I think is what
it was. And there was the suggestion made that long

(26:01):
ago that the body could attack itself. Well everybody laughed
at out. So the body would never attack itself. That's
absolute nonsense. Well, there's over eighty autoimmune diseases. Today because
they find out that it does do that and the heart, unfortunately,
is a victim of this auto antibody attack. Now when

(26:25):
I see that in the heart scan with my patients,
and almost every one of them is under care of
a cardiologist, so I tell them this is what you
tell your cardiologist that you don't even have to show
them the scan because they won't understand it. The scans
that they understand, based on the EKG are electrical based.

(26:50):
They're looking at the electrical activity in the heart. The
scan that I'm using here is based on sound. What
kind of sounds are coming out of the heart. Are
they healthy sounds or non healthy sounds? Because we can
change the sound in a matter of minutes with the
right applied treatment and so, and they're all food based.

(27:12):
They don't conflict with the prescribed heart medication whatsoever. But
I tell them, I want you to tell your cardiologists
what you're doing, and I want you to show your
cardiologist what you're doing and what you're taking. I said,
I'm not a cardiologist, but believe me, I know how

(27:33):
the heart works and I know how it responds to
proper nutrition. So normally you can only get vitamins from
something food based, vibes from something as beautiful as raw
cow's milk. I drink about two to three glasses a

(27:56):
douns glasses of raw cow's milk today I'm here in Utah. Unfortunately,
we have the freedom of food choice here in the
Utah that will allow us to drink raw milk. Can
you imagine a mother pasteurizing her milk from her breast
before she gave it to her baby. How absolutely insane

(28:17):
that would be. Normally, we only get these vitamins that
I'm talking about from the oils that are in raw nuts,
fresh butter, fresh meat, fish, freshly ground grains such as
bread that's made from fresh ground flour. I've been accused

(28:37):
sometimes of being against bread. No, I'm not against bread.
I'm against the flour. If it's aged fresh ground whole
wheat flour in ten days has lost its potency, and
the oxidation of the vitamin E oil that's in the
germ of whole wheat now has taken on a toxic effect.

(29:01):
I've even gone so far with some of my patients
saying to them, if you're walking down the bread isle
in the grocery store and you've got to have some bread.
Get the white bread. Leave the wheat bread alone, because
I guarantee you that the ground wheat that went into
that wheat bread, and usually a lot of the wheatbreads

(29:22):
half white, half wheat anyway, has been exposed to oxygen
long enough that the vitamin E molecule has gone toxic.
But if you take good, wholesome, non hybridized I mean
the real McCoy wheat, and you grind it up and
you make bread out of it, that's a very wholesome

(29:45):
source of food, no doubt about it. It's you know,
it's just the oxygen. The oxygen that keeps us alive
can also be the enemy. And so the more we
eat and to choose and eat our foods from Mother nature,
the healthier we're going to be. The more that we

(30:05):
choose our foods from what's some large food corporation, and
there's a lot. The biggest one on the planet is Nesley,
and there's Craft and General Mills and all these others.
They're not there to give you healthy food, that may
be the battle cry. They're there to make a profit.

(30:25):
And so the way they make a profit is the
least amount of money that goes into what they're selling
with a competitive high price that they can get away with.
So it takes some common sense to do these things. Now,
what I've talked about here, I've talked about before in
the past. They're all available at the Good Day Health
Show podcasts. There's hundreds of them. Me and doctor Ken,

(30:48):
there's a multitude of them. Now I'm going to be
joining Doug here in just a few moments. There's more
information about what I'm talking about it forbiddendoctor dot com.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
But I.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Consider it a real privilege to join Doug and to
be a part of the Doug Steffan Good Day Health
Show stick around. Doug's gonna be with me in just
a moment. I'm doctor Jack Stockwell at forbiddendoctor dot com.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Doug Steffan here with Good Day Health. Doctor Jack Stockwell
is on the air every week. He goes through the
latest from his world of Nooker Chiropractic. It's also a
gaps practitioner, so he can tell you the bottom line
when it comes to natural thinking, when it comes to
medical questions like I've been talking with doctor Ken about

(31:37):
these wearables. The new Secretary of Health and Human Services
mister Kennedy is suggesting that we all should wear these things.
They call them wearables. They're like watches that bring you
up to data on whatever is going on in your
body's stress and blood pressure and oxygen and all that
other stuff. Do you hold with that? Do you get
your patients to wear these things? Suggest that they do?

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Jack?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Well, we have a measure that we use inside the office,
the Heart sound recorder, that is a very detailed analysis
of the heart and its performance. As far as the
wearables are concerned, what are you going to do about it? Yes,
I mean, if you've got this thing, yeah, well, and
that's my point. It's going to track calories expended and

(32:24):
the energy that you've done, and the steps and upstairs downstairs.
I mean, it can measure all kinds of stuff. But
what are you going to do with that? Is it
going to change your lifestyle? Which is really the important
thing to do.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I think that's your purpose behind it, though, isn't it.
It's to give your awareness of what's going on so
that you, if you're smart enough, you say, oh, I
better do something about my blood pressure or ooh my stress.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, that's that's the point. You don't don't. Some of
these can be pretty expensive, and if you're going to
invest in something like that, then you need to probably
have some kind of a self commitment to doing something
about it when it shows an indication that maybe things
aren't as you know, up to par that they should

(33:09):
be in a sense of blood pressure or calories consumed,
or how much time you've been sitting as opposed up
and moving around. But yeah, it can only help the
idea is some kind of a level of self commitment
to do something about it when you get the indication.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
All right, So I'm gonna present you a scenario. It's
late at night, you're hungry, You open the refrigerator. I've
seen you do do this by the way in your eyes.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I'll be careful.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yes, What do you eat when you go to bed?
If you're having want a snack, like I have ice
cream before I go to bed? What do you take?
What do you eat without sabotaging your sleep?

Speaker 4 (33:49):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Boy, that's a good question, because I try not to
eat at least three hours before bed because I want
my stomach somewhat empty. Probably some kind of a fruit
that has a good amount of fiber in it, like berries,
bananas like berries. Because here's the thing. If you have

(34:11):
too much fat or protein and your ice cream will
do that, it's going to take your stomach and digestive
system a while to actually start to break that stuff down.
And when we're sleeping, we want our liver to be
purifying and cleaning our blood. Now, the liver has over
six hundred identified functions, but it primarily breaks down to

(34:34):
either purifying and cleaning the blood or digesting food. Digesting
food requires amazingly a lot of energy to digest the
food you're trying to get energy out of. And when
your liver is spending time digesting food while you're trying
to sleep, you're not going to get the rest that

(34:54):
you think you're going to get or that you want.
You don't want the liver doing anything when you go
to sleep, have to clean up the blood, which takes
about three to four hours after you've had something to
eat before you finally retire. So to answer the question,
something with low fat and low protein, because the fat
and the protein are the things that take the longest

(35:16):
for the digestive system to break down.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, but who's gonna actually think about that in the
middle of the night, low fat out protein. Let's see,
we are having my refrigerator as well.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
That's why I'm saying something like fruit, some fruit that's
got fiber. Yeah, like berries, maybe half of an apple
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, well yeah, apples, and there's lots of great plums
and peaches and things around this time of year as well. Right, Yeah,
that's kind of how it works. Well. Balance, I think
also you were talking about balance on one of your
previous programs. By the way, these shows are available. If
Jack doesn't remind you of this, I will. Good Day

(35:52):
Healthshow dot Com is where you find you can go
wherever you get your podcasts. It's half a dozen different
places to go get them where everywhere. If you don't
get a chance to hear the program regularly every weekend,
there are fifteen hundred or more of these Good Day
Health shows with Jack that are in the file. Goodday
Healthshow dot Com is where you go for the podcast,

(36:14):
so catch up on things that you need to know
about or the most recent information that you haven't heard.
Kind of fun to listen to Jack that way. I
listened to him that way, and listen I can listen
to him anyway I want to and that's a good thing.
Good Day Health Show.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
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